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Step on up. 00:00:04
Oh well, good morning. Happy Tuesday. 00:00:05
OK. 00:00:11
You can see on my budget lines in 0001. 00:00:13
Besides the employee. 00:00:20
Increase the jury. 00:00:22
Line went up about $10,000. We have had more juries this past year and so we plan for that because it does cover not. 00:00:25
Their meals and mileage and all that, just in case if we don't use it, it goes right back to you guys. 00:00:33
0010 there's nothing. 00:00:39
For increase. 00:00:43
0062. 00:00:47
And this is where if we have a lot of questions, Melissa is here for poll worker pay. The election board has decided to try to 00:00:49
give them an increase. 00:00:53
To uh uh. 00:00:58
Hopefully entice poll workers. Average age is 76 years old. However they do show up. 00:01:00
For the most part now this budget, we did it off of eight sites, OK, Just it could be less, it could be, you know more. The other 00:01:06
thing is keep in mind that next year is a municipal. 00:01:11
And the city is will be paying back. 00:01:17
Probably about 80%. 00:01:21
Yeah, about 80% of the budget back. 00:01:23
Yes, ma'am. 00:01:29
It's Sharon speaking to your microphone. Oh, sure. 00:01:30
And we did discuss in our meeting they have budgeted for it for next year. We made that. 00:01:40
Question in our meeting and they are being budgeted for that, so yes. 00:01:46
Wouldn't they raise it to you? 00:01:52
The poll workers. 00:01:53
So yes, I have that. 00:01:55
So currently our poll workers are paid $115.00 a day. That's early voting. 00:01:58
And we are asking for 200 for poll. Oops, I'm sorry, that is Election Day. 00:02:02
We're asking that to be bumped up. 00:02:10
To 1. 00:02:14
Oops, 125. 00:02:17
So from 1:15 to 120, five, $10 a day. 00:02:19
And then on the inspectors, they currently get 140 a day and they're going to go to 160 a day, so 20 more dollars on the day. 00:02:23
No one's gonna make it enough money to go to Tahiti, but it would be a nice little plus. 00:02:32
We also did put there a little bit of money in their lunches. If you see the meals, we did bump that up just a little bit because 00:02:36
that's not tax. 00:02:41
So really they would see it a little bit of an increase. 00:02:45
OK, that's that one. 00:02:52
Nothing on 0279. 00:02:54
No increase. 00:02:58
Look at that. Easy peasy. 00:02:59
OK. 00:03:01
0000. 00:03:02
Nothing there either. 00:03:07
Well, look at that and I'm done, right? 00:03:08
Unless you have a question. 00:03:12
So the increase in the. 00:03:15
Clerk's Office. 00:03:18
Is 52,000. 00:03:19
407 is that right? 00:03:21
You're looking at the general. 00:03:24
That is out. Is that all salaries or? 00:03:27
What? What are you looking at? 00:03:31
Yes. 00:03:34
Yes. So yes, that was the 3% increase. 00:03:35
Was that right saying all salaries? There is some of it like you pointed out, your jury line is increasing a little. 00:03:40
Postage is up. My postage did go up, yes. 00:03:46
Hostage did go up because it went to $0.85 and certified is now 50. 00:03:52
550. 00:03:56
Sometimes I have 12A day, 15 a day, sometimes I have 5. I just never know and so that has to. 00:03:58
The increase. So that was the other one. 00:04:04
I should have stated from. 00:04:09
Before we started that. 00:04:11
All budgets will show. 00:04:13
At this point at 3%. 00:04:16
Increase. That's what we're working off of. 00:04:17
So that's. 00:04:19
Just take that into account as you're looking through. 00:04:21
All right. Any other questions for the clerk? 00:04:24
All right, we will take it under advisement. 00:04:28
And I just want to tell you all, I have loved serving for eight years in this office. I hope you see me next year, just in a 00:04:30
different capacity. 00:04:33
Absolutely, we hope to see it. 00:04:36
You're up, Judge. 00:04:45
Ready when you are. 00:04:47
Adobe Starter, good morning. 00:04:51
Some will start early, some will start late. Party don't start till I get here. 00:04:55
What's in that line? 00:05:01
Don't you want to know? 00:05:03
A coffee, even. 00:05:05
All right, so. 00:05:10
I don't know if there's anything. I didn't ask for any increases anywhere. I think there's. 00:05:12
Let me see. The only increases were from that 3% where the. 00:05:17
For the employees for the raises, and I think there's one spot where I noticed a decrease due to. 00:05:21
Subscriptions goes from 2500 to 1500. 00:05:27
Law book skills from 17,018 thousand. I think it was always 18,000. 00:05:30
So I still use law books. Surprisingly, yes. 00:05:34
I don't. I think because of the Circuit Court has the budget for almost all of it. 00:05:38
We maintain it so. 00:05:43
Some of the judges like they utilize some of the bench books and things I'm. 00:05:44
Part of the digital age, so. 00:05:49
All right. So unless there's any questions, I mean it's all. 00:05:54
The only change you'll see in certain courts budget is in their portion of the judicial Let all payroll taxes and benefits out of 00:05:59
the judicial list due to the estimated income for next year. 00:06:05
We can always look back in next year if our car carry over is enough to cover that. 00:06:11
2027 You know that one. 00:06:17
That one got tight. 00:06:19
And you can see, I think last year I've asked for and you guys approved, which I appreciated more for. 00:06:23
Interpreter services and GAL regarding the litem you can already see on the extended up to this point, but where we're at, I mean 00:06:28
it was 15,000 is my total budget for GAL last year, I'm already. 00:06:33
18 five and I still have several outstanding bills. 00:06:38
Interpretability at three of the five and we'll probably end up going over that by the end of the year, but. 00:06:41
Hopefully we try to pull from somewhere else within here there's any access, but that's the plan. 00:06:46
Any questions for Judge Brown? 00:06:55
All right. We will take it under advisement. Thank you. 00:06:57
Judge Flanagan, Europe. 00:07:02
I don't know, I'm just going to. 00:07:10
Pull up a note I have here. 00:07:11
Any my budget is the same except for. 00:07:15
Cost of living, so I didn't know if you had any. 00:07:18
Questions. I did want to report that. 00:07:20
So if we stay on target through May the 4D. 00:07:23
Child support. 00:07:29
The Fed federal governments reimbursed us through May of my budget $33,128.00. 00:07:30
In 2025 they reimburse 73641 so. 00:07:37
My budgets like 1/2 budget. 00:07:41
And then I also earn incentive money that. 00:07:44
I can't spend Stan can speak better to this and probably Diana, but because I only. 00:07:47
Because I do other things, I can't spend that money, but the prosecutor does spend that. 00:07:52
So I know to only earn that money for the county. 00:07:58
I earn a huge. 00:08:01
Portion of the incentive money that. 00:08:03
Mr. Lane is able to use. 00:08:05
So that's all I have. 00:08:09
Any questions? 00:08:13
Oh no, I'll be back with Darius for the. 00:08:14
Their budget as well. 00:08:19
OK. Thank you. We'll take it under advisement. 00:08:20
I'm assuming. 00:08:24
Judge Hancock and Judge Granger will not be here. 00:08:26
Touching Jimmy's usually not, but. 00:08:29
Text like I'm the mom. I just text everyone. 00:08:33
Here today. 00:08:40
Thank you. Right. 00:08:42
Data for both superior to and superior 3. It's the same thing as circuit board. The only changes are that. 00:08:45
In judicial land, that's the benefits have been pulled out of the budget just because we can't support it for next year as far as. 00:08:52
Everything else came flat except for. 00:09:00
That 3% increase that was requested across the board. 00:09:03
We can look at them, I can pull them up if you guys want to, if you've already reviewed them. 00:09:07
I anticipate Judge Stiller will be down here for the time slot. What time is that? 00:09:17
Haven't heard otherwise. Can we talk about a couple other things in the meantime? 00:09:22
We can, we can review budgets that I'm responsible for. You can discuss other things with whatever your preference is, so. 00:09:27
I mean, we all know that we, we, we have some issues with the budget. 00:09:34
So. 00:09:38
It's not. 00:09:40
My recommendation? 00:09:42
Would be to go through all of the budgets and then maybe at the end of it discuss what those issues are all at once. Well, some of 00:09:44
it may already be addressed. 00:09:47
We're not going to get there. 00:09:53
OK, so. 00:09:55
I would like to. 00:09:56
One of the things that I think we need to be thinking about as we go through these things. 00:09:58
Here is that. 00:10:03
We've got a 3%. 00:10:05
Shower increase in here. 00:10:07
I just looked up what the CPI. 00:10:10
Projection is for next year, it's 2.6. 00:10:12
So I think we really need to understand what's the total salaries. 00:10:15
For 2027. 00:10:20
And how much of that can be impacted? 00:10:23
Can you do any of that? 00:10:26
On the fly or? 00:10:29
I think that's, I think that's perfect, yeah. 00:10:34
That's why I wanted to talk about it now. 00:10:37
Council that. 00:10:40
While the CPI for next year might be 2.6, this council has. 00:10:41
Consistently even lower. 00:10:45
That over the last few years as well. I know there's some. 00:10:47
I know there's some salaries that can't be impacted because of the. 00:10:52
Bargaining. 00:10:58
Agreement. Are you all ready for me? 00:11:00
You can step right up. Good morning. Good morning. 00:11:02
Well, thank you. That was perfect timing. 00:11:06
I'm I'm Judge Maria Granger, Floyd Superior Court 3. So I just want to start off by saying this is my last budget land. 00:11:09
And it hasn't always been the members on this body. 00:11:16
But I am grateful. 00:11:20
To. 00:11:22
The Floyd County Council. 00:11:23
For always being able to do everything that was within their power to make sure. 00:11:25
That the court ran and it ran successfully. 00:11:29
And we could still be working on innovations and we could still be taking care of the needs of the people of this community. 00:11:33
It has meant everything to me. 00:11:39
And I'm just so grateful and I wish I could have everybody in the room that. 00:11:42
Pitched in and did this. 00:11:45
But I hope that that message is. 00:11:47
Resonates to all the people who need to hear it so. 00:11:50
But with that. 00:11:54
I've presented and requested what I normally do. I like to make sure that. 00:11:56
If there's whatever ways we can. 00:12:01
Thank the employees for their service. 00:12:03
With the cola and those type of things, I know that. 00:12:06
Those are still being considered and that but. 00:12:08
That was really the only thing that I. 00:12:11
That was really something I wanted to make sure I put into the record. 00:12:14
And I'll do what? 00:12:17
What you'd feel is appropriate. 00:12:19
And what you can do? 00:12:21
So that's really all I have. 00:12:25
I've looked over. 00:12:28
I have more questions. 00:12:29
Yeah, I'm good. 00:12:30
We'll take it under advisement. Thank you. Can we? Thank you for your service. Thank you. Thank you. 00:12:33
Enjoy your retirement. She's not gonna retire. She's gonna be a special judge now. 00:12:38
30 days a week. 00:12:44
It feels weird. It's like a little bit surreal. 00:12:46
You know that I'm actually. 00:12:51
Winding this down, but. 00:12:53
It's exciting and I'm sure I will see you around. I heard a friend of mine. 00:12:55
Judge said the other day. Said I'm not a retiree, I'm a pensioner. 00:12:58
A pensioner. 00:13:02
Well, I I went back to my hometown. 00:13:06
And I was singing there. 00:13:08
And so they said, oh, you're the singing judge. I said, well, maybe I'm the judge that sings. I don't know which way it is. Maybe 00:13:10
I'm the singer, that's the judge. Who knows? 00:13:15
We'll see. You'll be hearing from me. 00:13:20
Take care. 00:13:21
Judge Stiller. 00:13:26
Good morning, everyone. Good morning. 00:13:33
If you want to highlight anything, yeah, you can highlight anything you want or tell us it's all good and. 00:13:39
Be looking, hopefully it's all good. There are a couple highlights. 00:13:44
And so the only. 00:13:48
Increase in the budget this year was the 3% colas. 00:13:49
Which you probably heard from the other judges was. 00:13:53
Essentially a $1716.00 raise for. 00:13:56
Court staff. 00:13:59
And then? 00:14:00
We went down because last year, if you remember, we had an increase on our equipment because we needed a copier. 00:14:02
So we took that back out. 00:14:07
That went down from. 00:14:11
11/5. 00:14:13
In 26 back to 6665. 00:14:14
And that's kind of it as far as. 00:14:19
Changes. 00:14:21
One thing I do want to. 00:14:24
And we'll be back in front of you. 00:14:25
Came to my attention actually. 00:14:27
That so we had. 00:14:29
A very lengthy. 00:14:32
Jury trial earlier this year. 00:14:34
And it has put us in the negative on our overtime. 00:14:36
Substantially. 00:14:40
So we've spent. 00:14:42
Today on overtime $6983 we only have 2000 budgeted. 00:14:45
Note that we. 00:14:51
This is rare. 00:14:53
Frankly, we. 00:14:54
We don't you it was a three-week trial. What happens during our jury trials? 00:14:57
Our court staff. We rent 2 dockets. We run the jury trial. 00:15:01
And we run. 00:15:06
A regular docket, yes. 00:15:07
Senior judges come in. 00:15:09
And. 00:15:11
What that means is our staff has to work late into the evenings many days to keep up with. 00:15:12
Run in two dockets, not to mention have to come in. 00:15:18
Typically an hour early. 00:15:22
And stay late just with the jury. Then after that we finished that and we divide and conquer because we have 5 staff but. 00:15:24
The ones you know, they have to get everything into the system, so. 00:15:30
When it goes on for three, you know, sometimes trials aren't two or three days. 00:15:34
So, but then when it goes on for three weeks. 00:15:38
The reason I'm bringing this up, we have another three-week trial starting on Monday. 00:15:41
And several behind it. So I don't know what the rest of this year is going to look like, but. 00:15:46
My budget is probably going to be able to absorb this. I will be coming back in front of you to transfer from. 00:15:50
Law books and contractual services, which I think we've got funds to cover that. We don't keep a whole lot extra in our budget. As 00:15:55
you know, we don't pad our budgets. 00:15:59
Keeping there enough for variables, but. 00:16:04
In this case, I suspect we're going to be needing it. 00:16:06
You know, if it goes like the last three-week trial. 00:16:10
We will probably and. 00:16:13
That's pretty much what it cost us. 00:16:14
For three weeks and we've got another one expected to go 3 weeks so. 00:16:16
Probably be something in that ballpark. 00:16:20
And again, my budget can absorb probably this first one, but I don't know that it's going to be able to absorb the second one, so. 00:16:22
Just a heads up. 00:16:28
Change your budget at all for next year. 00:16:29
I did not and I don't recommend doing that unless you all really wanted us to because it is an anomaly and especially to have two 00:16:31
in the same year. 00:16:35
Frequently we will have. 00:16:40
You know. 00:16:41
One to two trials a year. And they might be. 00:16:42
Anywhere from three days to a week. 00:16:45
Soda. 00:16:47
Yeah, it's highly unusual because we had three weeks consecutive. 00:16:51
In a row that. 00:16:55
That it was very labor intensive trial so. 00:16:58
But this next one I expect will be the same. 00:17:01
So anyway, that's it. Any questions or? 00:17:04
You do a great job. 00:17:09
Thank you, I appreciate it. 00:17:10
We'll take it under advisement. Thank you. Thank you all. Have a great day. 00:17:11
Judge Hancock. 00:17:17
Good morning. Good morning. 00:17:23
Sounds pretty straightforward, about the same as last year. I think everybody looked it over. 00:17:26
I don't know what to say. 00:17:30
That's about it. 00:17:33
I assume you all got a copy of it? We absolutely do. 00:17:37
All right. Yes, Sir. 00:17:40
Any questions for Judge Hancock did a great job. Judge appreciate. 00:17:45
Well, the only thing I'm. 00:17:49
I will say one thing. 00:17:51
We're having a. 00:17:53
Unusually large number of. 00:17:56
Of Hispanics. 00:17:59
And not just Hispanics, but a lot of people that were requiring an interpreter for. 00:18:01
And I had an interpreter set up some time ago. 00:18:07
And. 00:18:11
Somebody. 00:18:16
Contacted the state court administration and they told us that. 00:18:18
That person wasn't certified by the state so we couldn't use him. 00:18:22
So basically what it's come down to is they've. 00:18:26
The state court administration has forced us to use certain. 00:18:30
People, uh. 00:18:33
To interpret. 00:18:34
So it's cost us a lot more money. 00:18:36
We're out of money this this year. 00:18:38
For our budget for. 00:18:40
For interpreters. 00:18:43
And I don't know, we didn't ask for. 00:18:44
Anymore but. 00:18:47
It's going to be a problem. 00:18:49
I can guarantee you. 00:18:51
As we go through the year. 00:18:53
Just want you to know that ahead of time. 00:18:56
$5000 budget for next year. 00:18:58
Is there any? Is there any? 00:19:06
Talk of using AI or using computer. 00:19:10
Well, they obviously they will not allow us to do that. 00:19:16
Now they're they're. 00:19:19
Determine that you're going to have somebody. 00:19:21
A live person doing it. 00:19:25
Because they're afraid there will be a mix up. 00:19:26
That's why they didn't want us to use uncertified. 00:19:29
Interpreters it's just a liability issues that. 00:19:34
Yeah, I think that's that's their biggest. 00:19:37
Compliant. A lot of times we'll have a. 00:19:39
A family member that speaks English very well. 00:19:43
That's willing to come up. 00:19:46
And interpret. We can't even let that happen. 00:19:48
How do you get certified, Jay? 00:19:51
Well, I have to go through. 00:19:54
Process with the state court administration and. 00:19:56
With the state. 00:19:59
In order to get. 00:20:01
Certified and. 00:20:01
There's certain ones did. 00:20:03
Others don't want to go through all the hoops. You know, they don't want to jump all the hoops. I mean, it's pretty expensive. 00:20:07
So are they requiring attorneys to use? 00:20:14
Certified interpreters or can. 00:20:16
Attorneys, however, really want, I don't think they already do her well, but they're one in the courtroom. It's on the record. 00:20:17
You know, it's obviously. 00:20:25
Different, but I just wanted, you know, ahead of time. 00:20:27
That something's coming down the Pike. It just keeps, seems like it keeps. 00:20:31
Expanding, expanding, and expanding. 00:20:34
And I don't know why. 00:20:37
I would have thought that it would have slowed down instead of getting better, but it's. 00:20:39
It's not. 00:20:43
It's expanding. 00:20:44
We had. 00:20:45
Last about 3 weeks ago. 00:20:47
We had to have somebody. 00:20:50
Spoke Mandarin. 00:20:54
Some kind of a Slavic? 00:20:58
We had like 4 different. 00:21:01
Different kinds. 00:21:02
Wasn't just Spanish. 00:21:03
It's becoming a real problem, correct? 00:21:07
OK. 00:21:09
All right, any anything else for? 00:21:11
We will take it under advisement. Thank you for coming. 00:21:14
Kelly, whenever you're ready. 00:21:20
Good morning. Good morning. 00:21:29
Kelly Deusser, Chief Probation officer, Floyd County. 00:21:31
I know that I have several funds and I have a couple minutes per fund, but I didn't know if I could just take a couple minutes to 00:21:35
explain. 00:21:39
The way the probation funding is, go for it. 00:21:44
Perfect. 00:21:47
So to start off, probation is a county function. We are also. 00:21:49
Under the judicial, judicial, so we're certified by the state and then so statutorily. 00:21:54
Counties are responsible for making sure the salary schedule is. 00:22:01
Maintained so every year there's a state minimum. 00:22:06
That, umm. 00:22:10
We have to calculate salaries. 00:22:11
And we have two additional funds that can help support that. 00:22:13
So. 00:22:17
The main fund would be the county, which would be. 00:22:18
Base pays and then the administrative is set up for that is administrative fee that we collect. It's a small. 00:22:22
Building fun, but it is meant to support any steps and increases. 00:22:29
Each year. 00:22:34
And then administrative is supposed to be the main fund for that. 00:22:35
We've had several 100,000 in the administrative. It used to solely support the steps and increases. 00:22:39
And that's when that. 00:22:46
Supplemental user fee comes into play, whatever. 00:22:47
Steps and increases that cannot be covered under the administrative can be then supplemented. 00:22:50
And the user fees and that user fee fund is also to support the probation department. 00:22:56
The collection of user fees is. 00:23:02
Not to replace any funding. It's supposed to help support and run the probation department and pay for the increases. 00:23:06
So I just wanted to kind of lay that foundation out. That's the way that the funds are supposed to be used. That's the way we. 00:23:13
Always ran the funds. 00:23:20
We knew statutorily several years ago that our administrative fund was not going to be able to support all the steps increases. We 00:23:22
don't know those year for year because. 00:23:27
It happens upstate under the judicial and then once that's decided it just gets sent down to the local counties. 00:23:32
We had. 00:23:39
I would say a reserve in our admin and a reserve in our user fees. 00:23:41
Once we were done draining the administrative fee, we knew we were going to have to start start using the supplemental. 00:23:45
At the same time, we were asked to use some of our reserves to help the county. 00:23:51
And probation did that, that three, I think it was a $300,000 initial request and through those years we have. 00:23:57
Used 1.6 million. 00:24:06
Of those user fees. 00:24:08
Our collections have not increased. We still bring in steadily around 300,000 in our user fees, but our probation budgets have 00:24:09
went up to 600,000. 00:24:14
Which included fully supporting several officer positions. 00:24:19
So with that being said, we are just moving it back to the way the schedule is supposed to be done. 00:24:24
Our reserve and our user fees is now down from the 1.2. 00:24:29
To about 700,000. We knew that was going to happen. We knew the sustainability. 00:24:33
But we have not increased our county budget since I believe, 2020. 00:24:39
We were over 950,000 then and I think we've actually reduced it under 9 and we've never asked for a penny more from the county in 00:24:44
the last five years. 00:24:50
So we have really tried to. 00:24:55
Maintain. 00:24:57
Collections. 00:24:59
Which again is not to. 00:25:00
It's not to replace funding, it's supposed to help support the department. 00:25:03
And we've still also used above that so. 00:25:07
With that being said, to start with our first budget. 00:25:10
Which is the lit fund? 00:25:14
That fund would cover all the base salaries each year. 00:25:16
And any. 00:25:19
Case manager salaries. 00:25:21
And so each year as we start new budgets, the county would only be responsible for what the salary schedule states. 00:25:23
And that. 00:25:30
There would never be any increases from the year before, so anything that would be increased from the salary schedule would come 00:25:31
out of the administrative fee, so would keep it clean. 00:25:36
And then we would. 00:25:41
We I've always supported our probation department. Right now we have 3 offices. 00:25:42
We. 00:25:48
Normally we'll spend what we collect in just supporting the department that includes the drug screens, that includes. 00:25:49
The files that includes our incentives, we have programming within the probation department. 00:25:55
Anything and everything that it costs to support the department has always been done through the user fees and we'd like to 00:26:00
continue to do that. 00:26:04
So that's the public safety. That's the public safety. 00:26:09
And how much is that total budget for 2027? 00:26:12
OK, yes I have 1.4. 00:26:16
Yeah, and it was, but it's a. 00:26:18
High jump, but that's why I just wanted to explain if we would have been doing the salary schedule for the last several years, we 00:26:21
would have already been up there. 00:26:25
But we have saved the county because we have maintained all those increases. 00:26:29
And in colas. 00:26:34
Or not own for everybody in the department out of those user fees to not increase our county. 00:26:36
Budget. 00:26:42
So that is the first fund. 00:26:49
And then any questions on the? 00:26:52
So that is the lit. 00:26:54
The 12:37 as far as the. 00:26:55
The next one is the county offender transfer fund, the 12:20. 00:26:59
That is our Interstate transfer fee statutorily if anybody is transferred out of the state. 00:27:03
They have to go through a federal compact and that compact has a fee that. 00:27:08
Get split between the state and the county. 00:27:13
The county portion stays here. That county portion. 00:27:16
We have about 50,000. 00:27:19
Currently in that fund that is to help. 00:27:21
Extraditions on warrants for those violations that are through the Interstate Compact. If they violate out-of-state by statute, we 00:27:23
have to have no. 00:27:28
A No bond and we have to extradite them wherever they're at and that helps with those costs. 00:27:33
So I do need. I know we had a set up with the sheriff before. 00:27:37
And we are that fund is getting increasingly high and I need to make sure that we are utilizing that. 00:27:41
Or its fullest. 00:27:46
But it is. 00:27:48
Only certain ones. 00:27:49
So unfortunately, unless they're in the Interstate, unless they had a full extradition warrant, that was the only ones we can use 00:27:50
those funds for. But it will pay for everything with that transport. 00:27:55
The administrative fund, the 2000, that fund we have budgeted and that is covering. 00:28:01
All of the. 00:28:07
Increases with our grants. 00:28:08
Our grant officers right now. 00:28:11
That is something that is also included is we have had, we've not added any probation officers. 00:28:13
Through the county and I know I've been here since. 00:28:19
2004. 00:28:22
And so the office, the probation officers we've added have always been your grants and we've gotten that Justice Reinvestment 00:28:23
grant. 00:28:27
And each year you all have worked with us to help with that funding once it's been reduced and now we're at the point where. 00:28:30
We are getting $30,000. 00:28:37
From the. 00:28:41
From this. 00:28:42
The Department of Corrections for that. 00:28:43
Which is pushing everything back. 00:28:45
Health information back on our budgets so. 00:28:47
We would. 00:28:51
Is that budget $9000? 00:28:53
Which What do you talk? Which one? 00:28:56
2000 is for these salaries. 00:28:58
That. 00:29:02
We did not. 00:29:02
That the grant did not cover. 00:29:03
Outside of the county's portion. 00:29:06
So now we had to bring in the county. 00:29:08
And our user fees in the grant. 00:29:10
So to put it under the schedule, this is what the schedule would look like. 00:29:14
And then we would use the administrative fund because that fund went from hundreds of thousands of dollars and it's now been 00:29:17
slowly growing. We have to use that first, but until we can. 00:29:22
Build that fund back up. I can't support a lot of salaries. 00:29:28
So to keep it clean with the grant, I do the administrative fees for the grant people out of that and then the other PO. 00:29:31
Increases out of the 2100 fund, which is what's coming up. But am I looking at that right? It's 9300. 00:29:38
Yes, OK. 00:29:46
Yeah, that's why I have the arrow there. Yes, that's just for the 2 Grant. 00:29:48
And then the next one we have is that 2100 but that. 00:29:52
But that. 00:29:56
Fun has 700,000. 00:29:57
No. Oh, OK, No, I'm confused. OK, let me get the 2100 fund. Oh, the 21102 thousand, we're at the 2000 administrative, OK. 00:30:00
That fund? 00:30:10
Brings in about 40,000 to 50,000 a year. 00:30:11
And after you look back. 00:30:16
We used all those funds up until it went down to 0 in 24. 00:30:18
And so we've not had enough money to support anything, any full steps. So we've. 00:30:24
Been trying to use that because we have to track it for financials with that too. Confused. OK, so the administrative fund is the 00:30:30
one that's supposed to do all the steps. 00:30:34
But that is a fund that doesn't have more than $50,000 a year coming in. 00:30:39
OK. And then the 2100 fund? 00:30:43
Is the one that supports the probation department, and it's supposed to cover whatever steps and increases the administrative fund 00:30:47
cannot sustain. 00:30:51
And that fund is? 00:30:56
OK. So in the 2100 that's the fund that we have brought in. 00:31:02
Approximately 1 point. 00:31:14
One point. 00:31:17
1.1 million. 00:31:18
And we've expended 1.67 million. 00:31:20
In 23, we had a 1.2 million cash balance and now we're down. 00:31:22
Under 700 and our budget out of that went from 1:54 hundred 504 to 628 this year, so. 00:31:27
That would cover all of our supplies to run the department and any other increases. 00:31:34
That total for that fund. 00:31:39
Turned into. 00:31:42
$244,000. 00:31:45
And just so that. 00:31:50
To be aware, as of now we have only collected $181,000 in user fees this year. 00:31:52
Because those who come on probation. 00:32:00
Are mostly. 00:32:03
Stabilization. 00:32:08
They don't. We don't have any prerequisites, so user fees, if we can collect them if we're able to, you're supposed to go to help 00:32:10
support them. 00:32:13
And so we again, we're not a business, we just collect those. 00:32:17
To help support what we can. 00:32:21
The next one is the Juvenile Informal Fund. We no longer collect juvenile fees. 00:32:27
So this fund, we are basically just utilizing it up. It is down to. 00:32:32
The last couple thousands of dollars and I believe if not this year, next year we will use up the remaining of that fund and then 00:32:38
that will no longer be included. 00:32:42
The 9108 is our grant fund that I put in here that we submitted. We got a total of $36,000 from DOC. We used to get 131,000. 00:32:48
And that was for two probation officers in our programming that is for intensive supervision. 00:32:59
High. Those are the ones that need extra stabilization. They have programming where there's incentives. 00:33:05
There are sanctions. 00:33:12
They go through phases, things of that nature that's been really successful that we do have the data. 00:33:14
Collected on that, but that funding is down to 36,000 total. 00:33:19
And then the only other fund we had was the 12:37, which is the opiate fund. 00:33:27
That fund solely supports our juvenile liaison. 00:33:32
And then we have a $5000 stipend. 00:33:35
That goes to one of our case managers and our probation department that is maintaining the data. 00:33:38
For the J Rec Board as well as helping with the Resource Inventory Committee. 00:33:43
So I missed the general fund somehow. We don't have a general, we don't have anything in the general, county general. You need 00:33:50
this all completely to the lid. 00:33:54
Oh, that's right, we moved it all to the net. 00:33:58
So I I do have a question. 00:34:01
So it looks like we're. 00:34:04
Increasing the lit. 00:34:08
By almost $500,000 for this year, correct? 00:34:11
But we've decreased the supplemental. 00:34:16
By 400,000 yes. 00:34:20
Yet the supplemental has. 00:34:22
$700,000 balance in it. 00:34:25
And the. 00:34:28
The lip is going to be almost completely drained. 00:34:30
By the end of 2020. 00:34:33
And we already put in 1.6 million of probation user fees that is not allowed to be spent the way that we've been spending them. 00:34:38
I've just, I want to take it under consideration that we should move some of that back. 00:34:46
Out of. 00:34:50
Lit and back. 00:34:52
That supplemental fund? 00:34:55
My my suggestion I I I just really think that. 00:34:58
We are burdening. 00:35:01
The only thing I ask is that I'm managing multiple funds as is, so if you add another fun. 00:35:04
That is going to have. 00:35:09
Any type of funding, I'm now going to have to split that payroll. 00:35:12
Right now, some people are split amongst 3. 00:35:15
Fund it's going to possibly add it to a fourth and I was doing this to make it. 00:35:18
Clean. 00:35:22
Clear and then every year as we review. 00:35:23
The funds we can see what supplementals and doing that, but that's my only thing about splitting funding again into and this we 00:35:27
could just take under consideration I'm just. 00:35:32
Bringing that to everyone's attention that this is something we need to look at when we start talking about. 00:35:37
How we're going to have a balanced budget. 00:35:43
For 2027. 00:35:46
Because right now, we don't. 00:35:47
We've just talked. 00:35:49
I'm sorry. 00:35:55
No, you're fine. I'm just like I. 00:35:55
I just wanted to make sure I was. 00:35:58
I understand and you've done a great job. We've always tried to help the county we. 00:36:00
We do not take advantage of it. We have always supported ourselves. We don't come and ask. We've not really had a lot of. 00:36:06
Our our departments maintained about 27 people and we. 00:36:13
Do have workload studies that we've done through our state that does say that we do need more? 00:36:20
Officers, but we've always been. 00:36:25
Over what we have. So I just, we've always made it work and I just want to make sure that that's noted too that we've not come and 00:36:28
asked for anything that we did not absolutely need. 00:36:33
And at some point we do need to review that. 00:36:38
With the evidence based practices and everything coming down but. 00:36:40
For now I just want to get. 00:36:44
The funds utilize the way the state association. 00:36:45
So the way we talk about it, this is part of the growing pains of a. 00:36:48
Wilbur County, that's increasing in population. 00:36:55
And. 00:36:58
By the time the state mandates another court, we will be. 00:36:59
Adding. 00:37:03
Bodies in several different departments to keep up so. 00:37:04
It's definitely on the radar. 00:37:08
I think it's something that's going to be. 00:37:11
More of a long term. 00:37:16
And we're prepared. We've done we. 00:37:17
Are consistently going through policies making sure we're looking for new? 00:37:19
Ways to save money but we are always trying to look at the data and make sure that. 00:37:24
We're constantly changing and moving and we are doing our due diligence when it comes to making sure. 00:37:30
We are not. 00:37:35
Spending things on anything beyond what we should, but we also don't like to. 00:37:36
Think what We can't afford drug screens because we have to make sure. 00:37:41
South, right. 00:37:45
Absolutely any other. 00:37:48
Any other questions for Kelly? 00:37:50
No, Appreciate you, man. Thank you. We'll take it under advisement. Thank you. Obviously a great. 00:37:51
You always do a great job. 00:37:57
I think we do a great job. 00:38:00
Because everybody in there. 00:38:03
Can you tell Darius he's up when you leave? He's out in the hall. 00:38:07
Judge Flanagan says she wanted to be here for this, so she's on her way down, OK? 00:38:31
The only thing you were really asking for is a new position. 00:38:37
Through the. 00:38:40
Public wit for juvenile officer. 00:38:41
Project incomes almost the same as last year. 00:38:49
Haven't changed much. 00:38:52
Opioid position I'll rest, of course the cost of living increase. 00:38:56
On otherwise it's the same as last year. 00:38:59
Public safety lid. 00:39:03
We have the one position that the county is paying for. 00:39:04
Which is Micah and Judge Flanagan wants us to get a juvenile officer and I want to remind you that we cannot use grant money on. 00:39:07
Juveniles. So I've grown from these hate from most to my salaries. 00:39:15
It's just not allowed to be paid for for juvenile. 00:39:18
So let's. 00:39:22
An IDOC grant get the same amount of GET every year. Unfortunately never goes up, usually goes down. 00:39:25
So that's almost all going to salary. That's not going to salary, it's going towards. 00:39:31
Professional services, which is contracts. 00:39:35
So the issue right now is or the. 00:39:37
Big *** we have is for the juvenile position. 00:39:40
So the position is in the budget. I know there were some questions when we did the review about the ancillary furniture and stuff. 00:39:45
Did we get that result. So there was some new idea discussed here today with community corrections. I think the biggest question 00:39:51
was we don't typically budget supplies out of the public safety lid if we haven't date at that point. 00:39:57
And whether or not the. 00:40:04
The additional costs for one of these shared supplies. 00:40:08
Or or individualized to that percentage that there was equipment to purchase that was needed. As far as electronics, possibly a 00:40:11
desk. 00:40:15
It did not get included in this budget, mostly because I wanted the Council to. 00:40:21
Tell me whether or not it needed to be in there. 00:40:25
And then also with the. 00:40:28
Potential movement that's happening between now and the week and sometime next year it seems. 00:40:30
Do you want to see you? 00:40:40
Does the council want to talk to commissioners about whether or not furniture is gonna be purchased today? 00:40:41
Relocate some of the offices at Rice. 00:40:46
So that that's what's being purchased. There are a lot of questions basically. So are the supplies shared if not and yet there 00:40:48
needs to be budgetary for the juvenile officer. 00:40:52
Your computer needs to purchase. 00:40:59
Dry as well was the cost. 00:41:01
Additional 7000 maybe total correct? 00:41:05
For what? 00:41:09
For the first supply computer desks, I thought the computers all got bought out of the IT department. 00:41:11
That's for current computers that are part of an upgrade that's not in addition to. So Verizon is looking to add a position, which 00:41:18
means that's a computer that's not currently accounted for in this county. 00:41:23
I'm personally OK because. 00:41:30
With a, you know, public safety look because it's a one time. 00:41:32
It's not a recurring. 00:41:36
But I would expect. 00:41:38
Going forward that supplies are integrated in. 00:41:40
With the rest of your department. 00:41:44
Correct. 00:41:47
Yeah. 00:41:48
If our. 00:41:50
If I remember correctly, I think it was a $6700. 00:41:51
Does that sound right? 00:41:55
So you suggested putting that back in the budget? 00:42:00
I would. And then we need some. We need some questions answered. 00:42:04
Before then about. 00:42:08
New furniture, if that's the direction the commissioners are going. 00:42:12
I would put it in for now. 00:42:17
And kind of put a pin in it so we can. 00:42:18
Get a few things answered, I've got a few emails out. 00:42:24
To their side for some answers on some. 00:42:27
Interactual stuff as well, so. 00:42:29
Is that right? OK with that for now. 00:42:34
Sure. 00:42:41
Just to make you all aware there, I don't know if you all heard this, but there are troubles at the Clark County Detention Center. 00:42:43
To the extent that it may be. 00:42:52
A non entity at some point. 00:42:54
Given the councils. 00:42:59
Reluctance to fund that. I think it costs $2,000,000 a year for Clark County to fund that so. 00:43:02
I just. 00:43:09
Feel like that even weighs more towards this position because if we are to and I think it's. 00:43:10
I don't need a lot more, but I just want to let you know that. 00:43:17
It's even more important than ever to have this position because of that may come to pass. I'm not saying it will. 00:43:19
I know they're doing a lot to try to judge riggers doing a lot. 00:43:27
To try to keep it running, but I think it needs $100,000 in renovations and. 00:43:31
About this 2 million so. 00:43:36
That's a lot. 00:43:38
And the value of the detention center is the having a detention center and nobody knows what we have until it's gone so. 00:43:40
That just underlies why this is a really good investment, particularly at this time. 00:43:48
So you would propose sending juveniles? 00:43:59
To his office in lieu of. 00:44:02
I think they all that it's going to come to pass that. 00:44:04
The status needs to be more and more. 00:44:09
With the costs, I think to even keep that detention center afloat, right now we pay $200 a day for a juvenile and $300 a day for 00:44:12
one. That's my way to adult court. 00:44:18
And with that cost, it's still not covering. 00:44:25
So those costs? 00:44:29
May go up to. 00:44:30
You know, four and five, $600 a day. 00:44:31
And so, yes. 00:44:34
That would be this would be our fail safe because the closest detention center after that is Dearborn County or Johnson County or 00:44:35
relevant sometimes to take violent offenders and. 00:44:40
So we're really going to need. 00:44:46
The riots in this position. 00:44:48
Has any moves been made for the 2? 00:44:49
That we've had there. 00:44:52
Yes. 00:44:53
Sweet, thank you. 00:44:54
There have been. 00:44:55
I have personally seemed to remove several children to DOC to put one in DOC and put you on public attention and there have been 00:44:56
motions filed on the other one so I continue to. 00:45:04
Monitor the safety of the county while taking care of the fiscal part. So when I come with an ask, it's serious. And so to the 00:45:13
extent that you would fund this position plus the computer and other things. So I think it's an investment, a wise investment and 00:45:18
I assure you that. 00:45:23
Myself and Judge Brown are doing everything we can to do. 00:45:29
Be good stewards of. 00:45:33
The county, state, PM Our fiscal responsibility. 00:45:34
So just. 00:45:38
A little bit of background on that there's. 00:45:39
To use housed over there from Floyd County that. 00:45:42
Were eligible for. 00:45:46
Adult Court. 00:45:47
$300 a day, so between the two a 30 day stays $18,000. 00:45:50
Correct and so. 00:45:55
So that's that's one reason that this position has. 00:45:56
Not that it's gonna. 00:46:00
Save money, but it's gonna relieve some pressure. 00:46:01
There and hopefully. 00:46:04
Leads to better outcomes for. 00:46:07
By way of background, the the law changed in around 2019 that if the child was waived to adult court or charged directly as an 00:46:10
adult. 00:46:15
It used to be they won't put in our jail that is not statutory allowed anymore unless the prosecutor files a motion and the 00:46:21
hearing is held and it's. 00:46:25
Pretty rigorous standards to be to move them to the adult jail. 00:46:29
After much. 00:46:35
Mark breaking that I did I do believe that the the prosecutor has filed motions to move them to adult court. One has agreed to be 00:46:37
moved on the 24th as. 00:46:42
Stipulated and online is having a hearing on the. 00:46:47
On their 24%? 00:46:50
About that because when I started in the jail in 2015 we had 6. 00:46:54
Miles, we have just two or 15 years old, so I was, I hadn't delved into it much. I couldn't figure out why we were. 00:47:00
Housing. 00:47:06
And there's. 00:47:09
3 coming back for reviews that are at DLC on alternative sensing is when when they go to youth DOC. 00:47:10
They get to have a review when they turn. 00:47:18
Between 18 and 19 to decide if they come back home to any correction or go to prison. 00:47:20
And they come back for refused and expected and I are making sure that those. 00:47:25
People, now they're 18 and 19, are being sent directly to the jail and not to detention as well, so. 00:47:31
Thank you Know that I'm on it, Dale. And I picked up the torch with a prosecutor. 00:47:37
During his budget hearing, we're like, oh, by the way, we need you to look into this. 00:47:43
The thing is that it's it's. 00:47:48
There's a perception that you have to misbehave the detention to be moved to adult jail. That's only one of the prongs. The one 00:47:50
prong is the seriousness of the events. And both of these offenses are very, very serious. Oh, and the third child actually turns 00:47:59
18 this week. And I've already set that motion in in I already have the transport order drafted. And so we can move that. 00:48:07
Person. So it's actually I think all of them are being moved. 00:48:15
But it will be a bad bill for the commissioners before. 00:48:19
You know it's. 00:48:22
It's going to be, it's going to take the breath away. 00:48:23
And it just happens to be that time. 00:48:26
There's always. 00:48:29
Something on the horizon? 00:48:31
The lookout for any other questions. 00:48:32
For Darius. 00:48:34
All right, we will take it under advisement. 00:48:37
Thank you. 5 minutes. 00:48:39
Fast and break. 00:48:41
Yeah, we are. 00:48:43
A little hit up the schedule, so go right ahead. 00:48:44
Ohh, when will that be fun of this is? 00:48:47
We're not going to. When will that be finalized so that. 00:48:51
Hey, thank you so much for. 00:48:56
Let me be here. 00:49:02
Yeah, I can start. 00:49:05
I could explain what we've asked for or I could let you guys ask questions first. 00:49:06
So whatever is easiest for you all. 00:49:10
As we're looking at it, hit the highlights now. 00:49:12
Basically, uh. 00:49:16
In our budget, we've only asked for 3% in salaries, so. 00:49:16
We went with the admonition. 00:49:21
Of the. 00:49:23
Auditor on that? 00:49:24
Except for one. 00:49:25
On our 4th deputy, we did ask for an increase of 2500 + 3%. 00:49:26
We had an opportunity to hire. 00:49:32
Deputy prosecutor had about 8 to 10 years of experience. 00:49:35
And. 00:49:39
With that person was making in another county was 115. So we just tried to match that plus 3%. 00:49:40
It's well worth it. 00:49:46
To have experienced prosecutors, you want to train them. 00:49:48
You can insert immediately. They serve the county much better. 00:49:51
And then under computer supplies, we went from 7000 to 30. 00:49:54
Position. No, no, no. It's an old physician. 00:49:58
OK, yeah. And then on computer supplies, we went from 7 to 30. That's. 00:50:01
Acts on. I've covered it. 00:50:05
Last year and this year through diversion. 00:50:07
It's about 28,000. 00:50:09
At Dreams of the Count, so we were hoping to cover Axon. Axon is obviously with the sheriff's using. 00:50:12
Omni's using. 00:50:18
And what ISP uses Indian State Police? 00:50:19
So what it does is it's a storage. 00:50:22
For discovery. 00:50:24
Effectively it's endless discovery storage and with cell phones now. 00:50:25
We give out these hard drives 5 terabytes. 00:50:29
A piece those cost about. 00:50:32
300 to 500. 00:50:34
So in the long run. 00:50:36
We're hoping that sending links will be much more cost effective. 00:50:37
And then? 00:50:41
On do some subscription we raise that from 6500 to 15,000. 00:50:42
We did that because ultimately we're finding that. 00:50:47
It'll help with Axon. This is subscription based. 00:50:50
And then also. 00:50:53
We utilize that a lot for expert witnesses and other things. We maneuver that around. Our expert witnesses were out of control 00:50:55
because of Harvest Homecoming, especially this year. Well worth it. The guy got 109 years. 00:51:00
But. 00:51:06
It costs money. 00:51:06
And they charge us a lot for that. So we tried to make that more indicative of. 00:51:07
What it really is and seven, what we do. 00:51:11
Any discovery which were. 00:51:14
Was provided by free from the state is going away. 00:51:15
And so all that material will go into Axon and that's why we do need Axon. 00:51:19
And everything else, just like we said, is 3% by salaries and that's it. Child support is the same effectively except for the 3% 00:51:23
increase in salaries. 00:51:28
So the Axon is a. 00:51:33
One time purchase and then a subscription. 00:51:35
Yeah, it's a one time purchase which is $28,000 effectively. 00:51:37
And then we have subscriptions. 00:51:42
Another thing that's changed is, and you guys have probably heard of it, it's called A and ends with a. 00:51:44
I AI is now transforming. 00:51:51
And so we have LexisNexis. 00:51:53
We have other prosecutor AI which are designed for prosecutors which we are utilizing more it just. 00:51:56
It's in fact you can't. 00:52:02
Live and die by it, by any means. 00:52:04
But it helps research, helps kickstart things, and so we utilize it. We use every tool we can to keep our community safe. 00:52:06
And so it's been good. 00:52:14
So we're trying to adapt to that too. 00:52:15
But ultimately 3% on its salaries, not no new positions this year. 00:52:18
And we're asking for about 28,000 extra. 00:52:23
Which is for Axon effectively. 00:52:25
That'll cover most facts on, if not all of. 00:52:27
Some questions. 00:52:29
Christian side curiosity How's case locals universalized? 00:52:32
So queso hasn't changed much. 00:52:35
Last year. I always hate saying this, Matt. I'm going to say it. 00:52:37
Less violent. 00:52:41
The last two years, which has been good. 00:52:43
What we were seeing is a lot of youth gang activity coming over from Louisville. 00:52:45
And starting here. 00:52:49
That really became apparent in 2022. 00:52:51
To 2024. 00:52:54
Especially. 00:52:57
Crescendo, quite frankly, with hard some coming. 00:52:57
Because we found a lot of juvenile gangs were involved. 00:53:00
And we proved that. 00:53:03
Ever since then I've made it. 00:53:05
A2 year mission to destroy. 00:53:07
These hybrid. 00:53:09
Use gangs. We're effectively doing that. 00:53:10
They create violence, they just do because they're violent. 00:53:14
The culture that is established by gangs. 00:53:17
Whether it's a. 00:53:19
Juvenile gang or a. 00:53:21
More grown up gang. 00:53:23
Is based on violence. 00:53:25
It just is there. That's a culture that's viewed to people. They carry guns. 00:53:27
And we get younger people with guns that don't know what they're doing. 00:53:32
Bad things just inevitably happen. 00:53:36
Either they hurt themselves. 00:53:38
They hurt others they're against or innocent people. 00:53:39
And so we. 00:53:42
There's just a few keys in prosecution. 00:53:45
First, go after the people who commit the crimes because about. 00:53:48
5 to 8% of the people commit 90% of crimes. 00:53:51
And it's called 3 strikes. 00:53:55
I call it. Basically it's a visual offender. 00:53:57
You can those who continually commit the crimes of the people. 00:54:00
If you do that. 00:54:04
Right off the bat, you're good. 00:54:05
#2 you go after gangs. 00:54:06
One person's a problem. 00:54:08
Three or more people. 00:54:10
Are a bigger problem because then they have more reach, they can recruit others and they usually recruit kids. 00:54:12
And so the key is to destroy that too, if you can hit those two things. 00:54:18
You're always gonna have crime. Always tell people when they ask. 00:54:22
Why can't we eliminate crime? 00:54:26
You can't, because human nature is human nature. 00:54:27
Some all these out crime. 00:54:30
Always have people that do violence to others and try to hurt others. 00:54:31
But if we can minimize it by taking. 00:54:35
Affirmative steps and proactive. 00:54:37
Which we are. 00:54:39
Then we have seen. 00:54:40
A decrease in it. 00:54:43
Now be aware. 00:54:44
That will last forever. 00:54:46
There will come something new and we'll have to attack it. 00:54:47
But. 00:54:51
For now it's worked. 00:54:51
So good question. 00:54:56
Thanks man. 00:54:57
Sam, any other questions or? 00:54:58
Yeah, I appreciate it, Sam. 00:55:02
He stepped in a couple times to help us. 00:55:03
Appreciate his listen. 00:55:06
Denise, any thoughts or questions you have? 00:55:07
No, Danny, I'm done. 00:55:09
Dale. 00:55:15
Diana. Yep. 00:55:17
He does have two smaller budgets in his diversion fund and prosecutor Chapter 4, which judgment can kind of alluded to earlier 00:55:21
this morning that not really anything has changed in either one of those. They've stayed pretty flat. 00:55:28
And he, I just shout out to the prosecutor, he's always doing a good job of utilizing those. 00:55:36
The 48 obviously, as you know I can't use that for a lot. 00:55:45
I can only use it. 00:55:49
For established child support things, it's federal money basically. 00:55:50
But the diversion I can use for. 00:55:54
A lot and I try to. 00:55:56
Axon, we'll try to supplement. 00:55:57
Expert witnesses. 00:56:00
Then we we have an old fun. 00:56:01
And I can't remember the name of this. 00:56:03
Is it check deception fund that we barely use for? 00:56:05
Or it may be forfeiture, but we use that for our fuel, I think. 00:56:08
To cover our fuel costs for the investigators so. 00:56:12
And we'll still do that. 00:56:15
Anything else? 00:56:19
All right. We'll take it under advisement. Thank you. 00:56:20
Mr. Lorch, you are up. 00:56:24
Good morning. Good morning. 00:56:33
Are we having fun yet? Absolutely. 00:56:34
Favorite day of the year? 00:56:37
So. 00:56:45
I don't have a memo I think outlining kind of a lot of the changes that was it was a while back and based on line one at this 00:56:52
point, but. 00:56:56
After discussing it with with the Millers and with the short. 00:57:03
I was about to remove the. 00:57:08
Chief Deputy projecting that we are. 00:57:11
Time, which I understand. 00:57:13
May not be optimal timing for the county to approve that at this point, but. 00:57:15
We don't want to keep raising attitudes that you think it's a critical operational coverage point that our officership. 00:57:21
I have planned for at some point. 00:57:28
Whenever the tiles align as it was. 00:57:30
Otherwise, our budget. 00:57:34
But not saying that much. 00:57:37
The man changes came. 00:57:41
The anticipated thought of the matching. 00:57:43
With the practical it includes the tuning they were doing a 3% way. 00:57:46
If that did not happen or that would change in some way, we would also attract. 00:57:52
Or to reflect whatever actually happens at that point. 00:57:57
And that accounted for the. 00:58:02
14 have been included in our budget. 00:58:05
The one thing that we moved over from the supplemental fund? 00:58:08
But last year I started a. 00:58:14
Part time partial contract for one of our. 00:58:18
Ten public defender. We were hitting some kid loads. 00:58:21
Limitation problems up there. 00:58:26
But for the book a supplemental fund who killed them to make sure. 00:58:28
It was an ongoing need, but. 00:58:33
Trying to come over to the general fund with it. 00:58:36
And it had. 00:58:39
Been in need, still ongoing SO. 00:58:41
We've sought to move. 00:58:44
Contract basically to our general fund. 00:58:46
And I think we're. 00:58:50
Gonna have to aband. 00:58:51
That contract. 00:58:53
On the supplemental side, to meet our needs as well, but. 00:58:54
We're doing everything we can with new or unanticipated expenses. 00:58:57
Fund that fund without overlooked burden in it. 00:59:02
So other notable inclusions. 00:59:06
Find the cost of software. 00:59:10
But again, we we kind of. 00:59:12
Pay the first year to my supplemental fund to cast it out. Make sure something we can use and. 00:59:14
And the benefits of two ads and. 00:59:21
And the top where we've gotten had been. 00:59:23
Beneficial and thought. 00:59:26
That is those problems that we were looking at because we were looking at purchasing bulk. 00:59:29
Data the discover dodge the long term, which is a requirement in our office. 00:59:34
But frankly, it's gotten pretty expensive. 00:59:40
In recent times. 00:59:44
But anyway, we were able to integrate that into some of our software. 00:59:46
Licensing that we use so. 00:59:50
That'll help open. 00:59:52
Again, moving that over from a supplemental fund to the general fund causes an inquiry. 00:59:54
And others would office supplies with the minimum including. 01:00:00
So do you think? 01:00:10
The dog laid out. 01:00:16
Pretty well in that memo. I don't know if there's any specific questions. I could go into it for any of you. 01:00:19
But what's the what's the number of the supplemental fund? 01:00:28
OK. 01:00:33
1200. 01:00:35
Can you? Let's see the total. 01:00:46
So it went from. 01:00:52
It went from 1:21 to 1:00. What's the? 01:00:58
Cash balance and that account. 01:01:01
Supplemental. 01:01:04
Wow, Congrats. 01:01:09
Not much. 01:01:16
61,000 I want to tell you around 3000 or so a month, a month it's more. 01:01:18
Kind of a. 01:01:27
Moving kind of so a lot of times we. 01:01:28
Sort of an upper limit of what we feel like that fund might sustain we. 01:01:31
Some most years we don't touch much other. 01:01:37
That the contractual legal services that we typically have to dip into by. 01:01:40
Knock on wood, we not have to Lithia to follow yet due to an increase in the general fund last year that helped absorb that. 01:01:46
And anyway. 01:01:56
Mike, I don't have the current balance on hand. 01:01:58
Yeah, I'm good. 01:02:09
Anything else for Mr. Lorch? 01:02:14
All right, we will take it under advisement. 01:02:19
All right. Thank you all. Thank you. Reach out anytime if you have any questions. 01:02:21
Gloria, I can talk on Veterans Affairs if you want. 01:02:30
Tony sent an e-mail on that. 01:02:33
OK. 01:02:36
OK. 01:02:38
We sure can. 01:02:42
Morning. 01:02:51
So. 01:02:59
What we want to start with? 01:03:00
OK. 01:03:08
Sure. 01:03:13
OK, I don't even know if I have. Yes, I do. Hang on. 01:03:16
You caught me off the guard. I was. 01:03:24
Pairing. 01:03:26
OK, here we go. 01:03:31
OK. 01:03:36
I think I had my enhanced access. 01:03:40
And it is. 01:03:45
Pretty much the same, but that's money that I collect from. 01:03:47
Selling subscriptions. 01:03:50
But I have to pay back a percentage to the company that. 01:03:53
Monitors it. 01:03:58
So it's not a. 01:03:59
Excess spending or anything and we cover it all through our office. 01:04:02
It's no money out of. 01:04:07
County General. 01:04:09
Her other one would be her perpetuation fund that she covers to her deputies out of Yes. 01:04:12
And she does that. 01:04:17
As a boon to the county, county cannot actually use this money without an ordinance from How's the health in that is that? 01:04:20
That I know. 01:04:28
A year so ago, we were. 01:04:30
It's we've got 200 and that's a little over 200,000 and I spend out of that monthly. 01:04:32
Not just for the salaries, just to run our office and we are going to have some expenses if and when the move happens. 01:04:39
I don't know if I can use that. 01:04:47
Or not. 01:04:49
But I have some questions about that as well. But we can cross that bridge when it happens. 01:04:51
What kind of expenses? What? Well. 01:04:57
To be able to move all those books. 01:04:59
And get them in the right order. We may have to have new cabinets, I don't know. 01:05:01
And it could be a large expense like. 01:05:06
A couple 100. 01:05:09
If we had to. 01:05:10
Replace those cabinets there. 01:05:11
65 years old. 01:05:14
I'm looking for a place to store some of. 01:05:19
The older books so that I don't have to take as many. 01:05:22
But there's just not much option and people still, believe it or not, get in when. 01:05:25
Get into when they have 100 year search. 01:05:30
Yeah. 01:05:32
I know. 01:05:35
Mostly commercial. 01:05:36
I guess my question is. 01:05:38
There's a man sitting in blue. Wouldn't. Wouldn't that be the commissioners responsibility? 01:05:40
Are you remotely? I don't know. We've not crossed that bridge yet. So I've just been kind of. 01:05:43
Watching and seeing what the balance is. 01:05:52
Hi. 01:05:57
So we we have a. 01:05:59
We will be exhausting the ARP funds COVID monies with billing. 01:06:01
Construction and upgrade and renovations. 01:06:07
There's still $1.5 million being held in the van. 01:06:10
Currently that we have access to for the 4th floor renovations, so I'm assuming. 01:06:14
That if you guys approve it or evaluate and improve it, those funds can be used for. 01:06:19
That that move process so. 01:06:26
That'd be good because we were paying a larger portion of our salaries and. 01:06:30
Benefits. But we we just can't do that. It's not. 01:06:35
Increasing its decreasing. 01:06:38
No, it wasn't sustainable the first year they did it. 01:06:41
You know so. 01:06:47
Sorry about that, but it's still. 01:06:50
The significant amount. 01:06:52
And more money this year has gone into the county general than in the past. 01:06:53
So that was a good plus. 01:07:01
Don't. I don't think I have any other fun to go over. 01:07:06
Yeah, other than I don't know what we're asking. 01:07:12
On the. 01:07:15
Continuing Education. 01:07:18
I know it's all lumped together. 01:07:20
OK. That's good. We all stayed within it really well this year. Do you know what that balance is? 01:07:22
Because we pull that into. 01:07:29
Is it gonna? 01:07:33
For sustainable, yeah, OK. 01:07:34
Good, that's it. 01:07:38
OK. 01:07:43
So really. 01:07:49
The only thing coming out is. 01:07:50
County General is the salaries. 01:07:52
Of myself and my chief deputy. 01:07:55
We are down to three employees. 01:07:59
Anything else for Lois? 01:08:08
We will take it under advisement. 01:08:11
Thank you. Thank you. All right. 01:08:13
Nope. 01:08:26
Nope, you're you're. 01:08:28
Perfectly fine. 01:08:29
So Danny, did, uh, Tony give you? He did. 01:08:37
OK. 01:08:41
Any highlights? 01:08:49
Just hit the highlights. 01:08:50
There's. I kept everything the same except I'm adding or I'm asking to add a line item. 01:08:53
For. 01:09:00
Promotional items. 01:09:02
This year we have a new director. 01:09:04
He's big on. 01:09:08
Us being out in the community. 01:09:11
And which? 01:09:14
We kind of have. 01:09:17
Been a little. 01:09:19
In the past. 01:09:22
Since I've taken over. 01:09:23
We do harvest homecoming now. 01:09:26
My office I'm the Co chair of a suicide coalition that we founded. 01:09:29
Called Sewing for Heroes for Veterans and 1st Responders for suicide prevention. 01:09:36
However, we don't have any funds at all. 01:09:44
For anything that has our name on it, Floyd County Veterans Service Office, except our business cards. 01:09:49
Which we do have our. 01:09:59
We have. 01:10:02
QR code of an old lady that QR code. So we do have that now on the back of our card. 01:10:05
And on our Sewing for Heroes card, which links to. 01:10:14
All of our veteran owned businesses that we know and things like that, but we don't have anything like. 01:10:20
That we can hand out. 01:10:27
I've been doing car shows lately. 01:10:29
The the the governor would like for us to be in the community at least twice a month. 01:10:32
I it's. 01:10:42
I'm trying. 01:10:44
But you know, there's only so many car shows I go to because I'm not that interested in cars. I'm in a Jeep club, so I do know 01:10:46
people. So I. 01:10:51
We're getting there, but we're not quite there yet. 01:10:57
But I would just like to have something I know $1000. 01:11:00
There's a lot to you all, and it's not quite a lot to make something that has our name on it, but. 01:11:04
It's a start, so that's the only thing I'm asking for. Everything else stays the same. 01:11:11
So what kind of promotional items are you talking about? 01:11:17
I'm sorry. 01:11:22
Are you talking about, Well, I don't know, I have coffee mugs, stickers. 01:11:24
Well, if we did mugs. 01:11:28
I could make those at home. I, I, I could buy them mugs at wholesale. My husband does. He couldn't do that at home. We did make 01:11:30
some to give away on veteran's day one year, so that's a possibility. 01:11:38
That has our names on them. 01:11:47
Don't smack me down here, but. 01:11:49
Would ask most of us sit in this table. 01:11:51
Have ran a campaign. 01:11:53
$1000 don't buy much merch. 01:11:54
Should we make that a little bit more? I'm just asking. 01:11:57
I was kind of. 01:12:02
Thinking the same thing but since it's the first year. 01:12:03
And you're kind of trying to get a feel for what works and what does it. I mean, it's. 01:12:05
Yeah, I mean, it's a good place to start. 01:12:09
That's what I was. Are you OK with the $1000? 01:12:12
And like I said, my husband does all of that. 01:12:17
So it, you know, I, I wrangle him into a lot of things, so. 01:12:21
You know, if I couldn't find things wholesale and have him do his art stuff then. 01:12:28
We'll see. 01:12:35
But even with pins or. 01:12:36
Lanyards or things like that, Something cheap. 01:12:38
I'm here to find a market so. 01:12:43
OK. All right. Well then we'll leave it at that for now and we'll see how. 01:12:46
2027 goes and. 01:12:50
Yeah, hopefully he won't ask me to do more than two a month. 01:12:52
I'm getting old. 01:12:57
Do you have a committee of veterans that would help you out? 01:12:59
Service organizations that they be willing to help out. 01:13:04
We're getting there. We're just starting, but our coalition is picking up. We do coffee. 01:13:09
Coffee Chunk. 01:13:16
Out at Northside and so we've got a great the. 01:13:17
It's we all get together, so that's. 01:13:22
So we're, we're getting, we're building our brand. 01:13:26
Well, good and I appreciate it. I personally. 01:13:29
I appreciate everything you do that. 01:13:32
I know my brother. 01:13:34
Wound up going to your office and was very helping helpful in getting this benefit. 01:13:36
Veterans benefits that you should be getting, yeah. 01:13:40
And I just for one, we should take care of our veterans. 01:13:43
At all times, I agree. 01:13:46
So I appreciate it. 01:13:48
We we're definitely been busy with this property types. 01:13:52
Thing that's going on, aren't we dying? 01:13:56
It's been fun, yeah. 01:13:59
It's been busy. You're not using that word, not using that word well. 01:14:03
Well, well, well. 01:14:09
I don't use it that often that. 01:14:12
And I'm doing all the home visits for our home balance property tax, so I have to go out and. 01:14:14
Let's sign their papers for them, so I just. 01:14:20
I I did my best so. 01:14:26
Well, we thank you for the work that you do and we'll take. 01:14:28
Your budget under advisement. Thank you. 01:14:31
Steve Hallway. 01:14:36
Come on in here. 01:14:41
Hey, Steve, you can tell them there's seats in here if they want to come in and sit down. 01:14:46
Thanks, Steve. Appreciate it. You're up. Don't sit down. Come on. 01:14:53
Europe. 01:14:57
You're going early. 01:15:00
Wow. 01:15:01
Steve Burke's Ford County Treasurer, here to present the 2027 budget. 01:15:03
Do you have any questions? 01:15:08
Can you just hit the highlights? 01:15:11
The only thing that changed in this budget is raises. Yes, it increases. 01:15:12
Would you like any explanations? 01:15:24
At all. 01:15:27
No. 01:15:30
We're good. 01:15:32
Anything for Mr. Burks. 01:15:39
All in favor say aye. 01:15:41
We'll take, we'll take it under advisement. 01:15:43
Thank you, Sir. Thank you. 01:15:46
Good try. 01:15:48
Surveyors next. 01:15:58
Matthew, if you. 01:16:01
Step right up, Johnny. Don't sit down. 01:16:09
You're early. 01:16:13
We are too so. 01:16:13
We'll just keep this ball rolling. 01:16:15
Yeah. 01:16:17
Everybody, hi. 01:16:18
Is going with it. 01:16:20
Mr. Greenport's budget pretty much stayed flat except for the increases that were requested. 01:16:24
Nothing else changed. 01:16:29
Yeah, so we just looked at the auditors numbers. 01:16:34
She had sent out some recommendations on salaries. 01:16:37
And so we just. 01:16:41
We went with that. 01:16:43
As you all know. 01:16:44
For my chief deputy to get a raise. 01:16:46
Danny and I spoke about this a little bit. I have to get a raise. 01:16:49
I'm not asking for a raise. 01:16:52
But unfortunately with the 85% rule, I. 01:16:54
So a little bit unorthodox, but. 01:16:57
What I was proposing. 01:16:59
Was take $10,000 of my raise and transfer it over to my other employee. 01:17:01
So I know that's a little bit. 01:17:07
Kind of light line item, sort of jumbling, but. 01:17:09
That's what we're looking to do. 01:17:12
Yeah, they're. 01:17:13
I think we had a lot of. 01:17:14
Legal questions about that so. 01:17:16
Yeah, we appreciate the sentiment. 01:17:19
But we don't disagree. 01:17:23
Yeah, that would just create a. 01:17:28
What you do is you manage your business. 01:17:30
What's that? I'm sorry, what you do with your money is your business there. So we're trying to get around that. 01:17:32
Certainly, yeah, we we appreciate the. 01:17:41
The sentiment behind it, like we said, but I. 01:17:44
Any other questions for? 01:17:48
Not monetary house is cornerstone project going. 01:17:50
It's great. 01:17:53
It's continuing to move along. 01:17:54
We do have an online map. 01:17:57
Showing the areas that the corners are being recovered. 01:17:58
And that is continuing to grow. 01:18:01
Officer, you got, you got a time frame for that. 01:18:03
Eternally. So, you know, it's, it's kind of. 01:18:06
At the mercy of the budget #1. 01:18:10
How much we can do? 01:18:13
And really? 01:18:14
Corners, you know, once you. 01:18:15
Let's say you actually do perpetuate all the corners in the county. 01:18:17
Then it's a matter of, well, let's go. 01:18:21
Back in. 01:18:23
Re perpetuate to see, you know, 'cause. 01:18:24
Things change. 01:18:26
You know, things getting knocked out. So it's really. 01:18:27
Just a. 01:18:29
Ongoing process. Ongoing process. 01:18:30
I'm just always amazed that you've stated before that. 01:18:34
Some of the old 200 year old surveys both rods and chains is dead on. 01:18:37
That that amazes me. 01:18:42
Me too. 01:18:43
Continually, I mean, just, it's amazing. 01:18:44
Yeah, there was. There were some serious surveyors. 01:18:47
There were also some not so serious ones. 01:18:49
The guys that were good and gals rarely but. 01:18:52
They were good. 01:18:54
Find those rods every week. 01:18:58
When I'm out in the field. 01:19:00
So the corner, I guess when it's because. 01:19:05
Deeds fascinating when it. 01:19:07
Got all these numbers. 01:19:09
Degrees. 01:19:10
To the original point of beginning, that's the corner that you're talking. 01:19:12
Right. Well, it depends on how it was described. I mean, we could, we could, I could, we could talk about this all day. We got a 01:19:15
couple minutes just. 01:19:19
Fascinating. Sure. So. 01:19:23
If you're in a section and not like in town, everything's been planted out, so it might be like a lot. 01:19:25
In the block. 01:19:30
So it wouldn't necessarily be a. 01:19:31
Kind of a point of beginning description, but if you're out. 01:19:33
In in the county. 01:19:35
You know, and you're in a section or. 01:19:37
Or kind of toward the easterly part of the county or you're in Grant? 01:19:39
You know you may be starting at a grant corner. 01:19:42
Or a section corner and that's where those. 01:19:45
Descriptions come from. 01:19:47
You know, starting at the northeast corner of section 6, it was called meets and bounds. 01:19:48
I said. It just fascinates me. 01:19:53
Yeah. 01:19:55
All good. We'll take it under advisement. OK. Thank you. Thank you. Have a nice day. 01:20:01
Matthew Matthew presenting the Corners budget. 01:20:15
I'm bringing down the budget quite a bit. 01:20:18
We're not buying vehicles this year, obviously, so that cuts. 01:20:22
Quite a bit of money. 01:20:25
We are trying to introduce a new position. 01:20:26
For a new deputy. 01:20:29
With our current load, we're kind of stretched a little thin. 01:20:30
And I think another deputy would be perfect. 01:20:34
Looking at the surrounding counties of similar population. 01:20:37
We're under salary and we're under deputy count. 01:20:40
I think I presented it to Tony and Danny. 01:20:44
But looking at the numbers for the the counties that I actually have deputies count for. 01:20:48
Their average deputy count is 7. 01:20:53
We currently have 4. 01:20:56
So if I can at least bring that up by one, that helps. 01:20:58
A ton plus looking at their salaries, I know we did a little bit of. 01:21:01
Increase in salaries with my salary in. 01:21:06
My deputies. 01:21:08
Were drastically under the surrounding counties with them averaging. 01:21:10
I think from the Indiana fact book. 01:21:15
Putting them around. 01:21:19
$34,647. 01:21:21
I was sitting at 25. 01:21:24
I mean. 01:21:26
I'm not really as concerned about my my salary, but my my deputies. 01:21:27
Working them just twice a week. 01:21:31
For a month. 01:21:33
That puts their salary. 01:21:35
Under minimum wage. 01:21:36
So it's a little. 01:21:38
Crazy me. 01:21:39
The other big? 01:21:41
Things are, I mean, we've decreased a bunch of stuff. 01:21:42
Professional services come down $2000. 01:21:45
Miscellaneous services like. 01:21:48
Just got rid of. 01:21:50
Transportation we brought down a lot. 01:21:51
Us doing our own transportation has helped a lot. 01:21:54
We're able to get in and out of scenes a lot quicker. 01:21:57
And. 01:22:00
Get people transported over to the the morgue. 01:22:01
We did put our vehicle line on them at 12,000. 01:22:05
Looking at. 01:22:08
Not buying a vehicle this year or this coming year but the following year and try to keep it on rotation. 01:22:09
And just kind of have a vehicle continually within the office. 01:22:15
So we're not at the point. 01:22:18
Where we're spending a lot of money trying to. 01:22:20
My vehicles. 01:22:22
So this was a suggestion to Matthew for a. 01:22:24
Kind of a revolving fund there, so the budget doesn't stay low and then spike up for vehicles. So. 01:22:30
The The 12,000. 01:22:36
Thomas is a placeholder for Budget. 01:22:40
To try to. 01:22:43
Keep it as level. 01:22:46
As we can. 01:22:48
And Matthew did a very good job of the research, as he was saying the surrounding counties and likewise. 01:22:49
Population. 01:22:55
Counties. Counties. 01:22:56
How they're working? 01:22:58
Their situations and how many? 01:23:00
Deputies that they have. 01:23:02
So just trying to step this up a little bit and add one person. 01:23:06
Um. 01:23:11
And these physicians don't? 01:23:14
Around the counties. 01:23:18
So I mean, I was looking at just based on the fact book that. 01:23:19
Diana sent off. 01:23:22
I compared it to our coroners fact book on deputy counties. 01:23:24
So I was looking at like Boone County. 01:23:28
It's not surrounding guys. It's comparable. 01:23:30
Comparable population. 01:23:31
Counties. Yeah. Do you know how many our surrounding counties have our deputies? 01:23:33
I'm not sure, let me see. 01:23:39
The only one I really have is like Warren County. 01:23:43
Or work counties are not work. 01:23:46
I think they have 8 deputies. 01:23:49
So you don't have like, Clark Harrison? 01:23:51
Shoot down. Do you have the big? 01:23:54
Big book here. 01:23:57
That's all right. 01:23:58
Yes, I mean I can send you off the corners fact book too for you to look at. 01:23:59
Prior to actually solidifying any other budget stuff. 01:24:04
I know Clark has. 01:24:07
A lot more. 01:24:09
Harrison's about the same, just because of population. Yeah. And it all kind of depends on pay structure as well, some of those 01:24:10
counties. 01:24:13
Pay their deputies per case. 01:24:17
For autopsies, transportation, stuff like that. 01:24:19
Where we're paying our deputies a set wage. 01:24:22
So they're open to hire. 01:24:25
More than us, sometimes. 01:24:27
So it kind of comes down to differences like that. 01:24:29
I will mention too. 01:24:34
I kept my office supplies is at $500. 01:24:36
With us moving into a new building, I've been told that. 01:24:40
There's no real. 01:24:43
Money set aside for us. 01:24:44
Outfitting the office, essentially. 01:24:46
So I thought I'd kind of bring that to you guys and. 01:24:48
What I should be looking at? Or if I need to move that number or if we should approach that here in the? 01:24:52
The coming months. 01:24:57
With us moving over there. 01:24:59
On your vehicles, do you plan on buying 2 or are you going to offset these vehicles like one, one year one? 01:25:04
Yeah, I don't plan on buying. 01:25:10
Two at a time. How long? How many years you think he's been the last? 01:25:12
I'm hoping like I mean. 01:25:15
5 to 10. 01:25:17
I mean at least long enough that we get good use out of it and then we maybe we have enough money to. 01:25:19
Trade them all. I mean actually get money for them. 01:25:23
And I mean I'm always open to advise on. 01:25:27
Kind of the rotation schedule. 01:25:30
Talking to everyone about that, OK. 01:25:32
Go back to the office. Are you getting your gaming space right? I am gaining space so I should have enough room for another desk. 01:25:36
Which is kind of what I talked to Nick Creevy a little bit about. 01:25:42
We do bring a lot of families into our office when we're discussing results and all that. 01:25:46
And like to have a clean professional space to talk to them. 01:25:51
A lot of times right now over at Pineview, this. 01:25:55
Not super possible. It's. 01:25:57
Very messy in terms of like storage and all that. 01:25:59
So we're just trying to provide. 01:26:03
Provide a clean. 01:26:05
Comfortable space for families because a lot of times when we're talking to them, it's. 01:26:08
Horrible, horrible news and I just want to. 01:26:12
Give them the best. 01:26:14
We can handle it two ways. 01:26:21
We can add it in here. 01:26:23
I was. 01:26:25
I was a little dismayed to learn that the second floor. 01:26:26
Got cleared out. 01:26:29
Of everything pretty much other than what people could grab and say. 01:26:31
No, we want to keep that. 01:26:35
At the time that things were being carried out. 01:26:37
It was my understanding that that furniture was only. 01:26:40
A year or two old when we purchased the building and now it's gone. 01:26:43
Yeah, I think a lot of us went to the dumpsters. 01:26:47
Now it's in the dumpster. 01:26:49
It's really, yeah. 01:26:51
I don't know. 01:26:53
Who made that call or what? 01:26:54
But our options today are to increase. 01:26:55
Office supply line or the office furniture line or. 01:27:01
Take it up with commissioners and health department. 01:27:06
On say, can you take it out of the health department? Well. 01:27:08
I don't know if there's going to be anything leftover. 01:27:11
To help outfit? I doubt it. 01:27:14
But my personal preference would be to leave it flat at this point and then. 01:27:19
What you're anticipated move in date there? 01:27:24
You know they Charlie. 01:27:27
You know anticipated moving date. 01:27:32
But beat Stand. 01:27:35
I mean, are we a month away? We think. 01:27:39
At least by the end of the year. 01:27:41
We're over behind you right now. 01:27:45
Did they already take your furn? 01:27:47
Take a look and probably. 01:27:52
But they but they took your frame track. 01:28:00
We thought of our furniture behind you, but it's. 01:28:03
One rinky **** desk. 01:28:05
Yeah, they took the furniture out of. 01:28:07
Out of the new building on Grant Line. 01:28:10
Oh, the second floor. 01:28:13
I mean, I'm more than happy to just leave it flat right now and just kind of call you guys later in the year and we're gonna kind 01:28:21
of approach it at that time. 01:28:24
I think we need to do that. 01:28:29
And then get some more answers on. 01:28:31
Where we sit on that? 01:28:34
Renovation budget and. 01:28:36
What happened and? 01:28:39
So yeah, that works for me. Yeah. We're not going to let you sit on milk crates. 01:28:43
I can at least get milk crates. 01:28:49
We'll take it under advise though. 01:28:52
Yeah, I definitely think they need another position. I know y'all stay busy. I appreciate that. 01:28:56
Yeah, and. 01:29:04
You know the plan that they put in place with transporting and everything has worked out. 01:29:06
So that's a positive and. 01:29:12
We're back to. 01:29:16
Floyd County only. 01:29:17
Now, uh. 01:29:18
Yes, Scott County's straightened out. 01:29:19
Yes, quite a bit straightened out. 01:29:21
So. 01:29:23
So we're just concentrating on our. 01:29:26
On our county now. 01:29:29
Any other questions for Matthew? 01:29:31
No, thank you. All right, we'll take it under advisement. Thank you. 01:29:33
Assessors Office. 01:29:45
Good morning. Good morning. 01:29:47
Terry's on vacations. I'm here for him today. 01:29:49
So on our. 01:29:56
County assessor budget the pita boa and the. 01:29:58
Disclosure fee fund, we did not have any change. 01:30:02
Other than salaries. 01:30:06
On on the reassessment fund. 01:30:08
We did ask to increase postage and printing. 01:30:12
The Form 11 cost print. 01:30:15
In the postage, of course, has gone up. 01:30:17
And then we were looking at possibly. 01:30:21
Purchasing a new software. 01:30:24
It goes along with the Eagle view. 01:30:26
It's called Change Finder. 01:30:29
We have a terrible time with. 01:30:31
Permitting throughout the county when. 01:30:33
People build houses, barns, anything like that and this change Finder? 01:30:35
Works with the flyovers each year and it. 01:30:40
It's a software that shows you any kind of change to a structure. 01:30:43
So. 01:30:48
That would help. 01:30:49
In that area that. 01:30:50
1st. 01:30:52
Initial cost that year is 32,500, so that's what we increase that software budget. 01:30:53
Pretty cool software. 01:31:12
It is. 01:31:13
Yes, you said just change the structure because we're not. 01:31:20
We're not doing concrete anymore, correct? Correct. Yeah. 01:31:24
Yeah, what's that phone number? 01:31:29
And it's the 1188. 01:31:32
She's got the blue. I want to see what the fund balance is. 01:31:37
No, that's right. 01:31:53
Next. 01:31:55
It's got $490,000 in it. 01:32:10
Yeah. Can we use that? 01:32:15
Ballot for other things. 01:32:18
Not in the reassessment fund, I don't believe that goes towards the reassessment which is paid out and. 01:32:20
Monthly and. 01:32:27
But we can buy software with it. 01:32:29
I'm sorry, but we can buy software with it. 01:32:31
Yeah, within the. 01:32:34
Yeah, but we can't supplement any of the. 01:32:38
Salaries that. 01:32:41
The I knew they did the one. 01:32:44
And part time, wish part time is out there as well, so they're already supplementing what they can with that. 01:32:47
Legally or. 01:32:54
Financially. 01:32:56
Legally. Legally. 01:32:58
Because it's. 01:33:03
I know it's probably going to be a lot. 01:33:06
What'd you say? 01:33:08
I said I think it'll be interesting to see what revenue comes from that software. Yeah, I'm anxious to see that too. 10 new houses 01:33:09
would pay for. 01:33:13
This software and I've already found eight that didn't have permits. 01:33:17
Since October, so. 01:33:22
Well, that's will that go back in the reassessment fund? 01:33:23
It'll go into the general fund. General fund. 01:33:28
You found houses being built without a permit. 01:33:33
House is being built. How in the world do you do that? 01:33:37
That's just houses. We find barns. 01:33:40
Scrotches. 01:33:43
That's fascinating. 01:33:47
Kind of sounds like. 01:33:49
No bids, No 1099. 01:33:51
Type of stuff going on. 01:33:53
Yeah. 01:33:56
Are any other any other questions for the assessors office? 01:34:00
We will take it under advisement. Thank you. Thank you. 01:34:07
Leah, you? Yep, you can step right up. 01:34:12
Huh, You can't do Every year there's someone that to introduce our I'd say new office manager, but she's been here almost a year. 01:34:17
But Darlene was here for 20 and retired. 01:34:26
She might be in my place sometimes. Turning Casey. 01:34:30
So nothing major on our budget, but I am very glad that I asked her to take one last look. 01:34:35
And she found three salaries that were incorrect on the budget templates sent to us. They didn't match. Wow. So the assistant 01:34:40
director. 01:34:45
We need to change for 2027 to 68543. 01:34:49
And then? 01:34:54
Sorry, this is the director needs to change to what 68543? 01:34:58
That would reflect the 3% raise. 01:35:05
And then? 01:35:08
The therapist and the residential director. 01:35:09
What's the residential? They both need to be 62228. 01:35:14
Yes. 01:35:23
Thank you. 01:35:32
Other than that, there's nothing major. 01:35:35
Any update on? 01:35:46
Partnerships. 01:35:47
We are still working on it. I've been meeting a lot with a real estate attorney who's been donating his time. 01:35:49
And we've requested title documents for Pine View. 01:35:58
We have been invited to apply for a Lilly grant that we're hoping will help with this process. 01:36:03
We got a planning grant that we've got. 01:36:09
The attorneys donating his time, but. 01:36:13
He has to be associated with an office in order to be able to file certain paperwork, so we got money for that. We have money for 01:36:15
two people to help us with fundraising, including river Hills and working with an architect on some drawings, so. 01:36:23
Will be applying for the Lilly grant in March and we're hoping to get some funding. 01:36:31
Before then. 01:36:35
It's good progress. 01:36:36
Yeah. Good job. Yeah, Thanks. Yeah. 01:36:38
I always like to. 01:36:41
Bring it up just to make sure the. 01:36:42
Oh yeah, the snowball is getting bigger. 01:36:44
You know, we're still doing it, yeah. 01:36:46
All right. Any other questions for the youth shelter? 01:36:48
No. All right. We'll take it under advisement. Thank you. Thank you. 01:36:51
Do we want to take the? 01:36:58
10 minutes. 01:36:59
You want to go ahead and go. 01:37:03
Yeah, OK. 01:37:06
So good morning everyone. You'll notice that my budget is about $6000 less than it was last year. 01:37:12
That's primarily due to loud software costs that Diana graciously agreed to cover under her budget. So the same time, it's just 01:37:21
easier that way. It's awesome for me. 01:37:27
So the only thing that. 01:37:36
Is not the same is the 3%. 01:37:39
Other than that, everything stays flat and stays the same. 01:37:43
Pretty helpful. 01:37:47
Any questions for me? 01:37:50
No, correct. We'll take it under advisement. 01:37:52
Thank you for coming in. 01:37:58
Thank you. 01:37:59
All right, let's take. 01:38:00
Our next one is EMA at 10 after, but we'll take 10 or. 01:38:02
15 minutes and. 01:38:06
They get here early. We'll. 01:38:07
Pick back up. 01:38:09
All right, Kent. 01:38:11
Come on up. 01:38:13
Good morning. I think still, still morning. 01:38:16
What you want me to? 01:38:24
That's what changed, other than salaries. 01:38:28
Uh, change. Other than salaries, the big change is the training line item. 01:38:31
That you'll see in there and. 01:38:39
We had a request by the commissioners to. 01:38:41
Enhance. 01:38:45
Improve. Not really improve. I guess enhance our. 01:38:46
Program. 01:38:50
So they've asked for. 01:38:51
Me to. 01:38:53
Recruit some more volunteers. 01:38:57
And with recruiting is training. 01:39:00
And you can't ask a volunteer. 01:39:03
To take training and go places. 01:39:06
Without paying for it. 01:39:10
And maybe paying for their travel expenses. So I mean, it's a big ask and. 01:39:13
I'm, you know, put it in there. There's some of these trainings that are there. 01:39:19
They are. 01:39:25
Asking them to take or requiring is some of them in. 01:39:26
Emmitsburg, Maryland. 01:39:31
Some of them here in the state of Indiana and some of them online. 01:39:34
So obviously the online trainings aren't going to cost anything. 01:39:37
But those other trainings are, you know, if they have to drive to. 01:39:41
Indianapolis, OR. 01:39:44
Kokomo or somewhere else in the state? 01:39:46
To take a training. 01:39:50
Without and take a day off. 01:39:52
From work. 01:39:54
Miss Big Ask. I don't. 01:39:57
Can can you kind of tell us what these people are going to be used for? 01:39:58
Yeah, well, we're working to. 01:40:01
Meaning they are asking that we have enough people. 01:40:04
To umm, uh. 01:40:10
In the EOC. 01:40:12
During a disaster. 01:40:13
To have a. 01:40:15
Enough. 01:40:18
For 2/12 hour periods. 01:40:19
There's 8 seats in the ELC, so that's 16 people. 01:40:21
That will be logistics planning. 01:40:24
Liaison Safety Officer. 01:40:27
But you don't, you don't want to be filling all those seats, right? 01:40:30
Well. 01:40:33
In the past, what we've always done is we've used. 01:40:33
And we have activated the OC a couple of times since I've been the director here. 01:40:36
And we'll call in someone from. 01:40:41
One of the fire departments and have a firefighter there. 01:40:44
Sometimes we'll get a law enforcement officer. 01:40:47
If it's a health department issue like COVID, we have a health officer there or health. 01:40:49
Official there. 01:40:54
And we work through it that way. 01:40:56
They've asked that we have trained. 01:40:59
People to do the logistics section chief and a planning section chief. 01:41:02
So and in Franklin County, I was there last. 01:41:07
For two weeks for the flood. 01:41:11
And. 01:41:13
I was. 01:41:15
The first week I was a liaison officer, so I worked with the local federal, state officials, and then last week I was. 01:41:16
Pretty much the planning section chief for the Franklin County. 01:41:22
So that's what we do in the district is we go to other places and help and they'll come here and help. 01:41:26
During a large scale disaster. 01:41:31
Commissioners have just asked that we. 01:41:33
Have our own people. 01:41:36
Trained in those. 01:41:38
Positions and two. 01:41:40
Be able to respond to. 01:41:42
Something that you know. 01:41:44
In a large scale disaster. 01:41:48
But we do have resources we can count on to fill those positions if you didn't have. 01:41:51
Yes. 01:41:55
OK, so this is kind of a want, not really a need. 01:41:57
OK, so. 01:42:02
I'm bad on acronyms DOC. 01:42:04
Emergency operations center that's out there the. 01:42:06
The high check room, Yeah, that pine view, where you going to go eventually? 01:42:09
Trip so. 01:42:13
Question of the Day. 01:42:16
So. 01:42:17
Train up a bunch of volunteers with no home. 01:42:19
Well, right now we have a home. 01:42:23
You're asking me something I can't answer. I wish I could, but I have no answer. 01:42:28
Can't. I went out there a couple times during COVID. I was impressed. It was. 01:42:33
It was very, it was a really. 01:42:37
Good command center, people calling in from everywhere, video screens up. It was just pretty cool. We spent about $200,000 in that 01:42:38
room and. 01:42:42
About two years ago in grant money. 01:42:47
So I mean it is. 01:42:49
And in District 9, which is 12 counties in the district we're in. 01:42:51
There's about, there's probably. 01:42:57
I can think of two counties, Floyd being one. 01:43:00
That has a emergency operations center that is set up and ready to go. 01:43:02
In Franklin County, we use the courtroom. 01:43:07
Or we use the Commissioners and. 01:43:10
Council room. 01:43:12
In their. In their. 01:43:14
Building up there, so I mean. 01:43:15
But that's what we do. 01:43:19
And we go. 01:43:20
You know, I've been to Sullivan County in the years I'm in the Davis County, I've been to Franklin County, I've been to Clark 01:43:21
County. 01:43:24
You know we go and help each other. 01:43:27
The only other issues I would see with volunteers is. 01:43:29
You know, uh. 01:43:32
There's no guarantee these people are going to be available during where if you have professionals already. 01:43:34
Law enforcement. Fire departments. 01:43:40
They they are accessible in. 01:43:43
So I don't know. 01:43:47
Be honest with you, I'm kind of. 01:43:49
That will be issued with that. 01:43:51
The progression board feels like. 01:43:54
You want to add a note. 01:43:56
To move it to 2500. 01:43:57
Well, and then you got to just travel as well. 01:44:03
Well, these other, like I said, those people would have. 01:44:08
Means of travel. 01:44:11
Yeah. And what he was saying was though for training these part time people, he increased his travel around us as well. 01:44:12
Well, and that probably wouldn't cover $3500. 01:44:23
That's all I gotta say. Everybody OK with the notes that have been put in there? 01:44:30
For travel and training. 01:44:37
What was the big jump? 01:44:41
Repair and maintenance. 01:44:43
That had to do with drone? Drone, yes. 01:44:47
Yeah. 01:44:51
They had to. 01:44:53
They had a big cost. 01:44:56
This last year replaced one. 01:44:57
And to keep them constantly. 01:45:00
We have 5 drones. 01:45:03
The department and. 01:45:05
They're they're getting some age on them and yes. 01:45:07
Do we insure those or do you? 01:45:10
Yes, OK. 01:45:12
Yeah, yeah. 01:45:18
Yeah. 01:45:20
All right, any other? 01:45:24
Questions for Kim. 01:45:25
No, all right, we will take it under advisement. 01:45:30
All right. Thank you. 01:45:34
Thank you. 01:45:35
Angel. 01:45:37
Good morning. 01:45:40
House life in the new room. 01:45:43
Coffee. 01:45:45
We're getting used to it. 01:45:49
Yeah, I'm sure. 01:45:50
So as you'll see, I made no changes to my budget other than the 3% suggested increase to the salary line. I did move $100 within 01:45:52
the budget, I just changed up where. 01:45:59
Postage went where? 01:46:05
Mailing fewer things these days, so I moved $100 out of postage and moved those over. And so I'm miscellaneous expenses which. 01:46:07
Basically helps cover my annual meeting. 01:46:14
Thing looks good. 01:46:19
Thank you. 01:46:21
Any questions for Angela? 01:46:22
All right. We will take it under advisement. Thank you. 01:46:24
Well, thank you so much. I hope you guys have a great rest of your day. You too. 01:46:26
Co-op extension services. 01:46:33
Good morning, everyone. Good morning. 01:46:38
Just since. 01:46:41
Last year we were here, we've had some staffing changes so you all might remember Betty Harlan. 01:46:42
Oh, sorry, she's on my left. So Sarah Engelman is our new office manager if you're coming to the office. 01:46:47
So just so that you know. 01:46:52
Potter's office is well aware of Sarah. 01:46:54
Taking care of everything for us so. 01:46:56
Thank you. And then? 01:46:58
Megan Broughton is here, so extension has gone through. 01:47:00
Some changes statewide. 01:47:03
So Megan will now be our regional operations leader. So you'll start seeing Megan more at these versus myself or Sam. 01:47:05
Just because of how we change things up. 01:47:11
You'll see our budget is actually only went up. 01:47:14
About $5000. Megan can explain to you. 01:47:16
Contractual services and what went up with that, but we took money out of travel. 01:47:20
To help offset that in our computer. 01:47:25
And then our rent went up by about 3%. 01:47:27
That's usually what it does. Every year it goes up about 3%. 01:47:30
So if you want me to explain about contractual services. 01:47:34
You can just highlight it if you want, just so we have his knowledge of it. Yeah. So it went from one 36670 was where you guys 01:47:37
were at last year. We're at 1:45 and then. 01:47:42
For this year, for next year and the difference in that is they've. 01:47:46
Adjusted all of it so it's changed across the state. They're doing it based on population only, so before it was this random. 01:47:50
Equation that nobody knew where it came from so. 01:47:58
Now it's. 01:48:00
Based on population only. So if you're between this population and this population, you get this amount and that's how it is 01:48:01
across the state. So in Floyd County, we're at the 145 level and that's that'll stay the same for two years. 01:48:07
But with that. 01:48:13
You'll notice that the like she said can. 01:48:14
Travel went down because included in contractual services now is. 01:48:17
Mileage and computers for the educators and so we were able to reduce the. 01:48:21
Travel from 8000 to 1000. Because Sam and Gina's mileage are included, they'll be paid by Purdue as well as a computer 01:48:27
maintenance, so the county will still pay. 01:48:33
Any trouble that the office staff takes or the computers for the office staff, but that's how we were able to reduce those because 01:48:39
those are included in contractual services now, so. 01:48:43
Sounds good. 01:48:50
Any other questions for the extension office? 01:48:53
We will take you all. 01:48:57
Health Department. 01:49:02
I put them in orders the way that Diane sent them to me. 01:49:10
So I'm hoping. 01:49:13
I did it correctly, 1159 phone. Is that what you have first? Yes. OK, nothing. 01:49:15
Unique or strange about this one? I did have to cut a few things back due to. 01:49:21
HFI funding being cut. 01:49:27
So we've had to switch and I explained that at the budget hearings that we had to switch things around from different funds. 01:49:30
And then we have the 1169, which is the health department funds from Health First Indiana. 01:49:38
A lot was taken out of that because we were cut $1.1 million. 01:49:45
1161 is a grant. We put in $10,000 for contract employees just in case we would need it. We were hoping not to spend that money. 01:49:53
And save it for salaries for 20. 01:50:02
Sorry then. 01:50:14
1208. 01:50:16
5000 for supplies for our vehicles. Hoping not to use that but put it in there just in case we have to replace tires or something 01:50:17
breaks on a vehicle. 01:50:22
1206. 01:50:28
Miscellaneous supplies just in case we would need them. Hoping not to send anything out that fun. 01:50:31
8113. 01:50:37
We will be paying. 01:50:39
An employee out of this fund, it is the school liaison and the health educator and this would be splitting those two positions 01:50:40
towards the end of the year. We're adding the school liaison on there. 01:50:46
Because we're going to be running out of funds, out of the. 01:50:52
As a fund number for that one. 01:50:55
9150 is the school liaison. 01:50:59
That will be taking out this fund and it will run like $5000 short with benefits and the rest of the salary and that's when we're 01:51:03
going to switch it to the previous one, the 8113. 01:51:08
And that's it. 01:51:14
I really did appreciate our team this year. 01:51:18
Del, Sam and Denise, you guys asked a lot of questions. 01:51:21
No, it was Matt. 01:51:25
Matt, Del and Denise asked a lot of questions, really. 01:51:26
Looked over our budgets, had a lot of questions about what we do and I really appreciate that. 01:51:30
They they did a good job. 01:51:38
Making things work for this year within the. 01:51:41
Charlotte Audio. 01:51:45
But it it. 01:51:47
Long term. 01:51:48
It's going to be an issue. 01:51:49
I think we're good for 27 and I do think we're good. I do think you're good for 27. 01:51:52
I plan on writing a lot of grants. 01:51:58
For 20/28/27 and 28. 01:51:59
Once we get moved into the new building. 01:52:02
And just publicly say thank you to the state legislature. 01:52:05
Yeah, I don't mind saying it. 01:52:09
Thank you, Dale. 01:52:13
We've got a little time. What's the update on? 01:52:16
Mosquitoes. I see it on the news. And mosquitoes. We've had several positive pools in Floyd County. We put out Flyers. Only one 01:52:18
individual hospitalized. 01:52:22
But other than that, we have good control on it, working very well with the city. The city does the spring first. 01:52:27
Yeah, I saw on social media that it was a strange truck in the neighborhood with stuff coming out the edges. 01:52:34
That's a that's a spray truck, right? 01:52:39
And other than that, you just recommend people empty their bird baths and. 01:52:42
Trash cans drill holes in the bottom of your trash can if you don't have a lid part so all the fluids can. 01:52:46
Empty out from the bottom, high weed, clean out your gutters, trim your. 01:52:51
Shrubs. 01:52:55
Catch grass. 01:52:57
Take care of your stuff. 01:53:01
And Jack Frost will take care of that problem here in another month. Be a good taxpayer to share your property. And Jack Frost 01:53:02
will take care of that problem with another month. 01:53:06
Yeah. 01:53:10
All right. Anything else for the health department? 01:53:13
Thank you. We'll take it under advisement. Thank you. 01:53:16
Got some time before the non binding units that are responsible for right now. Let's do that. 01:53:21
OK, so. 01:53:32
My general fund weather. 01:53:36
Reflects increases that were requested. There are some adjustments we would like to highlight. So our contractual services went 01:53:38
down by $4000 because we got rid of the horrible mail machine that the previous auditor locked us into for a five year lease that 01:53:43
nobody wanted. 01:53:49
We provided so that we had to pay a $4000 a year to have it, plus postage. 01:53:55
So not only has our. 01:54:00
Actual services gone down, but our postage has gone down as well. Postage was going down steadily due to implementing ACH payments 01:54:04
to our vendors, which has been fantastic so we're saving money on. 01:54:10
Checks for saving money on emblems for saving money on postage. 01:54:16
We only spend about $300 a month postage as opposed to close to. 01:54:20
1600 used to for a while. 01:54:26
It was pretty rough. 01:54:29
So we did have a little bit of increase in our software support that would be the HR software that was mentioned earlier that's 01:54:32
been. 01:54:35
Uh, looped into the loud costs. 01:54:40
And then our taxing software did increase by about $3000. 01:54:42
So you got a lot so we. 01:54:48
Lower that we can and. 01:54:50
And staying flat where we could and. 01:54:53
I don't think anything other than our contractual cost increased. 01:54:56
At all. 01:55:00
Do you have any questions about my budget right now? 01:55:03
Also, 2026 was the last year for our. 01:55:11
Our true role software, we will not remember doing that contract. 01:55:15
My staff has a good Hazel. 01:55:19
What is the document? 01:55:23
It is actually part of the current year budget right here. It's this community. 01:55:26
So. 01:55:33
As of right now, I don't have anything projected to carry part of this project into next year because it's under contract that can 01:55:35
be reviewed in. 01:55:39
December at the December meeting or at the January meeting as in carry forward if necessary, and there will be no maintenance on 01:55:44
that. 01:55:47
There is maintenance on it. 01:55:52
That's good to me. 01:56:15
We'll take it under Bosnia. 01:56:17
Traction Services. 01:56:28
You're using subscriptions to go up. 01:56:30
So I increased that. 01:56:33
Island professional services plat. 01:56:35
Council training I increased a little bit because it was actually taken advantage of this year. 01:56:39
So just in case people actually go again next year. 01:56:44
Legal Services. 01:56:49
So if you track the professional services is. 01:56:50
Usually it's the line that covers the council's attorney. The legal services is in addition to what? 01:56:53
Isn't under that base contract when it comes to extras from a counselor? 01:57:01
We haven't. 01:57:05
You haven't used hardly any of that in the last couple years. So I cut that budget in half, just phase. 01:57:08
I don't anticipate you all. 01:57:14
Leaving $10,000 extra next year. 01:57:17
For that, so there is still $5000 available at. 01:57:21
We only used 400 to date. 01:57:25
Out of that line so. 01:57:28
Is Baker Utility part of the professional change? 01:57:32
Bakersfield. 01:57:34
I think they're. 01:57:36
Professional. 01:57:43
And the attorneys out of? 01:57:44
Contractual. 01:57:46
The attorney's contractual and the professional paper silly. For us the other way around now Bakersilly is contractual. 01:57:47
Then the attorney is. 01:57:57
Hey, thank you Tilly and the. 01:58:03
No, I was wrong the other way around. 01:58:06
Attorney is contractual banker silly as professional. 01:58:08
So today we paid bakers play 20 six 5051 five. 01:58:13
Is that so? We can always. 01:58:18
Does that include all the most rooms? 01:58:20
And if I recall, Greenville and Georgetown. 01:58:25
Are going to be making a portion of it. 01:58:29
We should send the bill down on Main Street too, just to see if it gets kicked back. 01:58:33
Yeah. 01:58:42
I can divide the possible. 01:58:44
I think that's send an invoice over there, yeah. 01:58:46
I would like to point out that this 15515 number has carried for years and years and years from back when we had. 01:58:55
Reading group and a different auditor where our FA had to do. 01:59:02
Most of the reporting and work. 01:59:07
So just to slightly toot my own form, it is September and we haven't, we only spend half of it so. 01:59:12
We could cut that like 10,000. Well, that's not going to say because the. 01:59:20
2025 came in 10,000 Sure. 01:59:23
We could cut this budget to 41 for next year if you want. 01:59:29
Let's do it. Put it up 41 five. 01:59:33
41 Five. 01:59:36
Take 10 out. 01:59:38
So in the public safety lid. 01:59:58
There is $3,000,000. 02:00:01
Budgeted for EMS purposes. 02:00:04
This is based on the information that I was given. 02:00:14
From the Commissioners and fire territory. 02:00:20
And the intervals that have been signed, so the budget that was submitted. 02:00:24
For EMS for 2027, that'll be under review. 02:00:29
Is 4.5. 02:00:32
The estimated return for insurance purposes, a very conservative estimate of return is at 1.5, so the difference remaining per. 02:00:36
Services is $3,000,000. 02:00:45
The council and commissioners and the board for the Territory have not agreed upon how to. 02:00:49
Disperse finances. 02:00:55
Yet to EMS from. 02:00:57
The public safety lit. I did recommend it to. 02:01:00
Add this resort and to commissioners that it be a quarterly review. They already have to do a quarterly review. 02:01:03
Board and that they. 02:01:09
They do an estimate for the oncoming quarter as far as what is actually needed to run. 02:01:11
And then they just. 02:01:17
Supplement that way so that we're not using the whole 3,000,000 out the gate. 02:01:18
And essentially having some savings at the end of the year and what we actually giving what is needed because the idea was not for 02:01:23
them to have. 02:01:26
A bunch of drinks, but. 02:01:30
Would you want to build it right? So that was my recommendation to work, hopefully. 02:01:32
Hopefully that's they go by I, the gentleman who's in charge of me and I'm building it. Mr. makes sense. 02:01:39
Seems to take a lot of pride in that. 02:01:45
Finding us the most cost effective, the best service. 02:01:48
Combos and I think that he's on board with that process as well. So it seems to be. 02:01:53
Let's bring the county exactly what they need, but let's not. 02:01:59
He's he's projected to under budget. 02:02:04
At this point so. 02:02:08
I've been very pleased with working with him. 02:02:10
Sounds like quarterly distributions isn't really good way to go. So when do we need to make that decision to the next meeting? 02:02:14
That'll be the board of our territory. So there's two members from the territory, a council Rep and a commissioner Rep that are 02:02:18
on. 02:02:23
A quarterly review board and there is. 02:02:28
Decides how to disperse the funds. 02:02:30
And that's why I recommended it the way I did, because. 02:02:35
Well, there's two votes just for the county and stuff. 02:02:40
Well, and I think that's fine. I I'm. 02:02:43
I'm I'm cautious on the other side of things. We've never done this before. 02:02:45
And I just don't want to get into costs that were unanticipated because. 02:02:49
Never done this before, right? Well, I think that the idea is to front load a portion in January and then at the March, April 02:02:55
review see how much of. 02:03:00
Because the first year of the first quarter of collecting is not going, yeah, but there will be a lag. There will be a lag in 02:03:06
collecting. 02:03:09
So, but that way we're not just giving them 3,000,000. Oh yeah, absolutely. 02:03:13
And the next time I was responsible for budgeting is the 12:17 so that it's. 02:03:18
Slowest that you did earlier. It's the training fund. 02:03:24
What hold it do we do? The whole public safety line. 02:03:27
Because. 02:03:31
OK. 02:03:33
You're not doing the whole public safety budget, you're just doing the part that you. 02:03:45
Much of it I understand now. 02:03:50
OK, so in the 12:17. 02:03:53
Is the training fund for the clerk auditor? 02:03:56
The Quarter and Treasurer by statute. 02:04:00
I left the training budget flat at 5000. To date none of us have proposed to utilizing that amount, but some years there are more 02:04:03
trainings than others. 02:04:08
And so not to have to come forward and ask for additional preparations in our training fund. I just love the flat. 02:04:13
You heard this person earlier, she said. That was. 02:04:20
Appropriate for them. 02:04:24
And then sorry. 02:04:25
You're not even close. 02:04:27
No, because I don't go to trainings that I don't have to go to. 02:04:31
I just, I just meant to all end up, yeah. 02:04:35
And Gloria and I tend to. We don't have to. If we could drive in the morning instead of saying the night before, we have to drive 02:04:39
in the morning and then stay nice that we have to. 02:04:43
We're very careful. 02:04:48
How much? 02:04:51
In fact, you actually have a fall conference in. 02:04:55
October, that's at Friendship and we're electing to drive daily instead of staying overnight for four nights because it costs less 02:04:58
to reimburse our mileage than it does for us to say it actually costs about third so. 02:05:03
We're just, we don't feel the need. 02:05:11
And then the 7303, which is the riverboat fund. 02:05:17
So some of this. 02:05:25
So some of this is budgeted by me, some of this is budgeted by Mr. Kyle. It's just supposed to pick to kind of where it fell as 02:05:35
far as. 02:05:39
Who normally addresses it? 02:05:44
Liability insurance. 02:05:48
4H Fairgrounds. 02:05:50
The County Council has officially covered that. 02:05:53
My assumption was that you all can. 02:05:56
However, of next year in 12. 02:05:58
Animal shelter cost is contractually based. 02:06:02
Everything that I hear from county citizens are animal. 02:06:06
Guy. 02:06:12
Does amazing job. 02:06:13
Uh, so that's, that's the trash will cost. 02:06:15
How did we mess that up this year? 02:06:18
Well, so the contract changed at the end of last year. We had to do an additional appropriation to cover. 02:06:26
Do you have your river hills? 02:06:38
15,000 for. 02:06:46
Small business story reflees for Internet Commissioner's Office. 02:06:48
So if you have questions about those two, that would be. 02:06:54
Is that for like? 02:07:03
Nova Park. 02:07:04
Like because this is coming in? No, it's actually. 02:07:05
Small business, it's this is the. 02:07:12
Regional agency through the state and. 02:07:14
They our guy covers 7. 02:07:17
Counties. I believe that sounds that 7 or 8 counties and. 02:07:20
They hosted IUS and they bring them all in to expose, you know, opportunities, right? 02:07:25
If they find any that fit the mission statement for Innovation Park, they're obviously. 02:07:31
Forward and back over to the commissioners to start engaging in some additional conversations. 02:07:35
If I may just River Hills briefly, Danny, no. 02:07:41
River Hills. We found a huge. 02:07:44
Partner they, they. 02:07:46
They've had some turnover, but they're solidifying their. 02:07:48
Their staffing and they are a huge help. 02:07:52
Specifically with a grant funding. 02:07:55
We're going to attempt to try to get on their planning arrangements for considerations for growth. 02:07:58
And economic development, specifically right now the one we nick and our meeting with River Hills. 02:08:04
Is trying to get gas up to Innovation Park, which seems to be somewhat of a. 02:08:11
A stalemate at the time. 02:08:15
Trying trying to get people in SO. 02:08:18
Are you brought it up? So I'm going to answer the question. I mean, are we? 02:08:20
Are there opportunities that we're losing at Innovation Park because we don't have gas? 02:08:25
I don't. I've heard this for a couple years. Yeah, I have two, Sir. And I, I'm just getting diving into the kind of the nuts and 02:08:31
bolts of all of these opportunities. So. 02:08:35
I don't know how many requests we're getting. 02:08:40
From uh. 02:08:42
From the interchange. 02:08:43
To Nova Park. 02:08:45
Is a huge. 02:08:46
It there's huge need for utility infrastructure. 02:08:51
To for any kind of development. 02:08:55
Yes, it's not just. 02:08:58
Noah Park's a big part of it, but there's. 02:09:01
Other things as well that. 02:09:04
Is it gas and sewer? 02:09:05
It's mainly gas. Mainly gas right now. Yes, ma'am. 02:09:07
Yeah. And it's so expensive to get that in there. I think it was upwards of 2 million ish dollars to get gas. So you're telling me 02:09:10
there are? 02:09:14
I don't know that. 02:09:20
I can't say legitimate opportunities. 02:09:21
I can say that that's that's more of the first hurdles to jump so. 02:09:24
The process may have stopped after that, but. 02:09:29
Aren't there gas lines out there, right? 02:09:33
There is gas in Georgetown. 02:09:35
McDonald's it stops prior to coming into the Innovation Park. 02:09:38
I'm not exactly what I. 02:09:42
Well, I mean, I thought there had to be some. 02:09:43
I mean, there's. 02:09:47
There's other plans for development that are kind of on hold as well. 02:09:47
Pending until pending until this gets. 02:09:52
Solved. 02:09:55
And it's kind of. 02:09:56
Everybody wants it, nobody wants to pay for it type of thing. And so we're. 02:09:57
So vector trying to get grants to help. 02:10:01
Push that. Push it north. 02:10:04
So the gas company back Turner used to be. I think they've changed their name again. 02:10:05
They won't put in the infrastructure even though they're going to get the charge for the use each other. 02:10:10
Well, it's. 02:10:16
Its return on investment that's not, you know, it would take them. 02:10:18
Yeah, 75 years. 02:10:21
You know, or whatever to. 02:10:24
To break. 02:10:26
Why? It's not that they won't. 02:10:27
Work with us. They're not going to carry the load on it though. 02:10:30
What's the balance in the riverboat? 02:10:40
The the actual cash balance. 02:10:44
Chelsea from River Hills is actually here if you. 02:10:53
Questions. I think she's got a. 02:10:56
A partner coming with her. 02:10:58
Hi. Hello. 02:11:11
So Adam Dickey's supposed to be here. I think our time was slotted for 11:50, but I'm here early. I'm Chelsea Crump. I work at 02:11:12
River Hills, so if you guys have any questions for me, I'm happy to. 02:11:17
Answer them, I heard you guys talking about the. 02:11:23
Gas project or possible project I have been working with? 02:11:26
Staying obviously and I just. 02:11:30
Talked about it and then we've been working with Nick to try to get some. 02:11:31
Cost estimates and design and all of that for that, because we're hoping that we can help you guys. 02:11:34
If you're interested, apply for an EDA grant SO. 02:11:39
What TDA? 02:11:44
The Economic Development Agency. 02:11:45
So the trick with their grant program is that they like to see jobs coming in. So if you can show like if you can show that. 02:11:48
If you get this these gas lines to Nova Park that it will bring in. 02:11:57
More businesses, umm. 02:12:02
Then that's like a good way to be. 02:12:04
To qualify. 02:12:07
Is that a full pain grant? 02:12:08
No, it's a 6040 so they'll pay 60%, you pay 40. So you'd still have to come up with. 02:12:11
A pretty, pretty penny, which is. 02:12:16
One of the things that when I talked to Nick Creevy is like, yeah, I don't know if we can even come up with match right now, but 02:12:18
we thought we could at least. 02:12:21
Get it to the attention of EDA and see what the options are. So. 02:12:24
Well, and with your experience, I mean, based on the discussion we just had if, if not having gas, if there was an unstarter, how 02:12:29
do we prove that we're going to bring in, right. So I think the way that the application works is you have just there's like a 02:12:34
template document where if you can, if you have businesses that maybe have reached out and been like we're interested, we just 02:12:39
really need more utilities. 02:12:44
You can have them. 02:12:50
They just signed it saying if this you know, grants awarded. 02:12:52
You know, we have intentions to move in and we can provide this many new jobs. 02:12:56
So, and it's not if they sign that, it's not like, oh, they have to do it or committed. It's just kind of like to give EDA an idea 02:13:00
of who's wanting to come in and, you know, show why they're not. 02:13:05
So OK. 02:13:10
And this is Adam Dickey, our Board Chair. He's here. 02:13:13
No, we they were talking about river hills when I walked in and then I just told them I can answer any questions they had so. 02:13:18
Although I might need glasses to see that. 02:13:30
So the. 02:13:36
The request that's before you is the. 02:13:39
Should be similar to previous years. 02:13:42
There's been no increase. 02:13:45
Each county is assessed. 02:13:49
Based on a statute. 02:13:52
That relates to. 02:13:56
Per population formula. 02:13:59
And if you. 02:14:03
We'll just Scroll down to the bottom and give me the lump sum total I think it was. 02:14:04
20 yeah, 26550 is what that that amount came to. 02:14:10
So again, there's there's no increase for this year. 02:14:15
The the funding that we received from the counties, some of you who are familiar with the organization know that we obviously 02:14:20
provide an array of services that relates to. 02:14:25
Grant administration. Project development. 02:14:31
Related economic development and planning activities. 02:14:35
I think Chelsea has handed out a copy that we provided also to the Commissioners of Economic Value. 02:14:40
In service to Floyd County in particular. 02:14:48
The the. 02:14:52
Those funds that come from the counties are used to also match. 02:14:55
A federal grant and EDA related grant. 02:15:00
That then leverages additional funds into the region. 02:15:03
And this is all then with the other funding sources that we receive. 02:15:06
Used to leverage the. 02:15:11
Have been leveraged for the staff with the idea that we're able then to provide services to not just municipal clients. 02:15:14
But in some cases, nonprofits and certainly the our biggest client right now is the Regional Development Authority. 02:15:23
For which our staff is serving as staff to them. 02:15:30
Managing all of the RDA and ready. 02:15:34
1.0 and 2.0 grant and funding requests for the region. 02:15:38
So. 02:15:43
In in terms of value, again you kind of see our our outline. 02:15:45
Of what that's meant in various federal funding, I know that we've talked about more recently some. 02:15:50
Potential with some of the projects that the county has. 02:15:56
Including a potential, I think there's interest in maybe looking at EDA again. 02:16:00
For some, some funding there for some some projects. 02:16:06
So that would all be stuff that. 02:16:10
That modest amount of 26,000 helps leverage so that we can. 02:16:12
Obviously accomplish those, not just for. 02:16:18
For the county, but for the region. 02:16:21
What's the? What's the? 02:16:26
Dash line put into the Ready fund. 02:16:29
Uh, proposal? 02:16:34
I don't think it was part of the the ready proposals, but that is I think that's the project that we're talking about with the EDA 02:16:37
funding. 02:16:41
And I believe there's. 02:16:46
I mean, we've talked about it and. 02:16:48
You know, don't want to speak for for the feds, but I think there is. 02:16:51
An interest there. 02:16:55
I think it's a competitive process and so we need to go through that process. But I I think there is an interest there in trying 02:16:58
to. 02:17:02
Facilitate that to add additional. 02:17:05
Impact for Nova. 02:17:07
We're also hopeful there'll be a ready 3, but we don't do that here. 02:17:10
Yeah, that's that's ultimately a decision by the Legislature. There's certainly been a lot of indications. 02:17:14
That that is indeed something that the legislature and the governor are going to be looking at. 02:17:20
But again. 02:17:25
Can you go on both, both of those paths at the same time or? Oh, I think so. Yeah, I think, I think so. We would. 02:17:27
You know, as a, as a our staff. 02:17:33
Looks at ways to leverage projects so. 02:17:36
We, we keep project lists through some of the planning activities that we do that's updated by your staff here. People like Nick 02:17:40
Creevy and and others on staff complete those documents and update us. 02:17:47
And then we constantly look for funding opportunities, whether it be. 02:17:54
Something that came up suddenly, like for example. 02:17:58
Unfortunately, disaster assistance. 02:18:01
Funding sometimes comes in after major storm events. 02:18:04
That's not necessarily. 02:18:08
Would impacted us here lately, but for example in the past. 02:18:10
When the Tornadoes have hit in the Clark County. 02:18:14
You know, we've been involved with. 02:18:17
Significant efforts to to recoup and and do some project related money there. 02:18:19
We've also done and been called in. 02:18:24
By the state to assist some other areas such as the Columbus area when they had major flooding, they didn't have a. 02:18:28
A council like ours at that time, and so we were asked to provide essentially mutual assistance. 02:18:36
To them, obviously we did get some fee for service. 02:18:43
But but that was a tremendous element the other the other areas that have. 02:18:46
We have happened our. 02:18:52
On occasion we will have individual. 02:18:53
Programs that come online. 02:18:56
It could be, you know, similar to what happened with COVID and ARC funding. 02:18:59
It could be, you know, a different. 02:19:04
Funding source that. 02:19:07
You know, the federal or state governments just. 02:19:08
Just put online and in those cases, we want to make sure that we leverage ourselves. 02:19:10
To to put the communities in the best. 02:19:15
Case to to get that funding. 02:19:17
So, so that is a routine thing, one of the things that we're looking at right now. 02:19:19
That Chelsea is actually doing a little work on IS. 02:19:24
We have some. 02:19:28
Requirements on our communities for. 02:19:29
Housing studies as a part of what the. 02:19:31
The state legislature passed, I believe it was last year. And so that's something that we're looking to provide to our communities 02:19:35
because we know that most of them do not have the staff or the capabilities to do those type of things. 02:19:41
And if that could eventually leverage additional state dollars, we obviously want to to do that. 02:19:47
OK. 02:19:56
Thank you. Any further questions for River Hills? It's a statement, I think it's a. 02:19:57
Valuable resource for our region. 02:20:02
I concur. Well, and as Dale knows, you know, from his interaction, you know. 02:20:04
With with river hills. 02:20:11
It's really one of the places where the region comes together. You know, we talk about regionalism, we talk about. 02:20:14
You know, people of different political interests coming together. This is really the place where it happens. 02:20:20
You'll be at the table, you'll see all political sides there, you'll see all community interests there. 02:20:26
You'll see people from different backgrounds, whether it be professional or other. 02:20:34
And, and everyone kind of comes to the table to make sure that we're fighting for, for our five county region. So it really is I, 02:20:39
I think a true reflection of reason as well as serving the local interests, whether it be in Floyd County or New Albany, 02:20:44
Georgetown, Greenville, wherever it may be. 02:20:50
All right, one more thing, Mr. ****. I'm glad you found your way back to this room. 02:20:57
Oh. 02:21:01
It has been a while back here. 02:21:04
Yeah, it has been a while. 02:21:06
So. 02:21:08
Yeah, they let me in the front door. All right, good, You know, No, no problems at the front door. 02:21:09
And Dale says it's a pretty good dinner at River. 02:21:16
Yeah, we just had it. We just had our annual dinner. I have a reputation of being a food critic. 02:21:19
I I think what's so important about the annual dinner, and I just encourage you all, if you can in the future to to make that is 02:21:26
the conversation that gets had this year we had. 02:21:30
Two of our mayors, Mayor Hodges and Mayor Green. 02:21:35
As well as facilitating the discussion was. 02:21:39
The Sellersburg Town Manager, Charlie Smith. 02:21:43
Who? Who kind of led a fireside chat conversation? 02:21:46
And I think the the good thing that comes out of it is. 02:21:51
When you have those type of presentations, not only do you see what. 02:21:54
Other parts of the region are doing. 02:21:59
But you also kind of. 02:22:02
Think about ideas you know? Well, wait a minute, we're having a problem with. 02:22:04
With this, I wonder if we could use that funding that they use to solve our problem. 02:22:07
And so it's a great time for networking. It's a great time to to see how folks are leveraging. 02:22:12
Financial Resources. 02:22:18
And it's a great time just. 02:22:20
Joined together and and. 02:22:22
You know, kind of celebrate the success of the region. 02:22:25
Any project? 02:22:27
And eat fried chicken. I I'm not going to get away from the menu. Apparently the menu was good. 02:22:29
All right, we will take it under advisement. 02:22:36
All right. Thank you guys so much. Thank you. Thank you. 02:22:38
Library. 02:22:42
Welcome. 02:22:50
I want to introduce you to our assistant director. I think many of you have not met him before. This is Aaron Williams. 02:22:52
Assistant director of operations said. 02:23:00
Welcome. 02:23:03
So in your package you should have our. 02:23:07
Levy information and our total budget. 02:23:10
I. 02:23:14
I'm sorry, I'm looking at the new foreman and I'm not seeing. 02:23:20
Levy percentage. 02:23:26
6.23. 02:23:29
There we go. Sorry about that is right there. 02:23:31
New platforms. 02:23:35
Isn't it though? 02:23:38
Yes, it is very interesting. 02:23:39
And you can see that our increase in budget from last year to this year is only about 157,000. 02:23:43
However, our property tax cap credit is 303. 02:23:52
1500 so it's just about. 02:23:56
I would like to say a break even. 02:24:00
We can hope. 02:24:01
And and just for your knowledge. 02:24:03
The tax levy for us is about 53% of our budget. 02:24:06
20% of our budget is. 02:24:10
And then? 02:24:12
The rest is. 02:24:14
Vehicle. Umm. 02:24:17
Commercial excise that. 02:24:18
That type of thing, plus a little bit. 02:24:20
From the year prior that we carry forward. 02:24:22
So any questions? 02:24:25
All right. Well, thank you so much. Take it under advisement. Thank you. 02:24:33
Life Spring. 02:24:42
Good morning, everybody. Good morning. 02:24:49
My name is Steven Benzel. I'm the the new director of accounting at Live Spring. So this this is my first. 02:24:51
Floyd County budget. 02:24:57
Welcome. 02:24:59
I apologize I didn't bring. 02:25:00
You've got, you've got this as a facility breakdown. Yeah, this, this provides a little bit more. 02:25:11
As a company in Floyd County. 02:25:18
So as you know, life spring is. 02:25:29
Community mental health. 02:25:32
Organization, amongst other things, employed county. We do a lot of services we have. 02:25:34
We have a primary care facility at the New Albany. 02:25:38
Community medical services. 02:25:42
The Floyd County. 02:25:44
Behavioral health clinic. 02:25:46
We have two. 02:25:47
Group homes. Residential homes. 02:25:49
And then 11. 02:25:52
High school clinic at New Albany high school so. 02:25:54
As you can see there, that is our our breakdown of our. 02:25:57
Our current year's needs budget that the. 02:26:00
This year that we've just begun that. 02:26:02
It ends June 30th, 2027. 02:26:03
The main. 02:26:09
Increases, I believe, in our budget over the last two or three years. 02:26:11
Has been salary which is the same for everyone. Salary, expenses. 02:26:14
Benefits all that? 02:26:18
Continues to increase. 02:26:20
For a number of reasons. 02:26:21
Yeah, Sarkisian House, Center Place Three. Those are our two residential homes. 02:26:25
People need to get back on their feet needing to. 02:26:30
Recovered, we usually hope that those group homes are a temporary stay for people to get the help that they need get back on their 02:26:34
feet. 02:26:37
To another level of life, but some people stay there longer. That someone's pretty much, yeah. 02:26:41
Any needs there? 02:26:48
And one of our biggest challenges this year, not challenges so much is the transition is. 02:26:50
As in Floyd County, the behavioral health. 02:26:56
That's a facility called a CMHC. 02:26:58
Community mental health clinic. 02:27:01
Indiana is transitioning CMHC's to a. 02:27:03
Another model called CCBHC. 02:27:06
Which is pretty much the same services, the same type of facility. 02:27:08
The only thing that really changes is how we're reimbursed by the state. 02:27:12
So I just wanted to get you all up to date on. 02:27:15
That one thing that that's really only the big operational change that we've. 02:27:17
Be happening with any. 02:27:21
Than these facilities. 02:27:22
Any questions about Lifespring in Floyd County? 02:27:25
So this shows 5 million, but on the screen we have 10 million. 02:27:32
No, that is our. 02:27:44
This is our current budget, so I'm. 02:27:46
Operating on right now, yes. 02:27:48
So that is interesting. I I didn't prepare the. 02:27:50
My my boss, Nick Clark, as you can see at the bottom there, I didn't prepare. 02:27:54
Yes. OK. So the budget that is in front of you is for you. 02:28:01
It's for the entire year, for next year. 02:28:06
This is not a full year budget. 02:28:12
This 5 million, that's a six six month budget. Is that a six month budget? 02:28:14
Now this is a this is a 12 month budget. 02:28:18
So I will need to. 02:28:20
I will need to confer with Nick about what the discrepancy is. 02:28:23
Yes. 02:28:28
So there we definitely. 02:28:31
Yeah, I need to, I need to investigate that. That's a. 02:28:33
Good catch. 02:28:36
You see, sounds a good accounting. No, I can see it, yeah. 02:28:36
No. What was last year's budget? 02:28:40
I would have to look at last year. I'm just wondering if it was closer to 5 or. 02:28:44
Yeah, Yeah. There, there may be a difference in the different expense buckets that these two reports we're looking at. So I'll, 02:28:48
I'll, I'll get with him. 02:28:52
Yeah, yeah. 02:28:58
It's not just operational. 02:29:02
I gotcha. There's probably some administrative like corporate allocation. 02:29:05
That was put into there. That's not that's not present. I think that's what's going on. There are two different ways of looking at 02:29:10
this is just the facility, that's just the facility. There's some administrative. 02:29:15
I think, I think that's probably, that's probably the difference, but I can't. I will investigate that and if there's for some 02:29:20
reason some material difference that they all need to be aware of, I'll let you know. 02:29:25
Well, we do need to know which budget. 02:29:31
Yes, ma'am. 02:29:35
Yeah, yeah. 02:29:38
I know there's a formula, but what's the ask from Floyd County? 02:29:48
Or we're not sure. 02:29:51
I believe that number last year was 550,000. 02:29:54
Yeah, that's right. OK, 550. 02:29:58
OK, got you. 02:30:02
Yeah. And there's not been any material changes from one year to the next for these facilities that would. 02:30:05
Increase or decrease the budget? 02:30:11
That's right. Yeah. Yeah. 02:30:14
Right, right. 02:30:20
Any further questions? 02:30:25
All right. We will take it under advisement. All right. Thank you. Thank you. 02:30:29
Ralph, you. 02:30:35
I'd rather angry sports. 02:30:47
Hi, I'm Sarah Ulster, Director of Development. 02:30:59
For route. 02:31:02
And I'm Deon Wood, CEO of Brown. 02:31:03
Text Lucy. 02:31:44
I did just want to note that we are seeing as far as growth in our departments. 02:31:48
Our employment services has. 02:31:53
Really grown under. 02:31:55
Umm Johnny Fussell, who was introduced last year. 02:31:57
And that includes starting our drivers training program is now. 02:32:01
Under underway. 02:32:06
With classes start as Black Friday. 02:32:08
And So what is the request for the budget? 02:32:49
Well. 02:32:55
Send the commissioners. 02:32:56
500,000. 02:33:12
Any questions for these ladies? 02:33:29
All right. We appreciate your work and we'll take this under advisement. 02:33:33
Thank you. 02:33:37
It is break time. 02:33:45
Good afternoon, Good afternoon. 02:34:05
Keith Pulliam, attorney. 02:34:07
On behalf of Floyd County Fire Territory here with Chief Weissman. 02:34:09
And I think we have everything submitted into Gateway. I'm here to answer questions. 02:34:13
Can give you some big number breakdowns as well if you need. That'll be fine. Go ahead and do that as we're taking a look. 02:34:28
OK, that totals. 02:34:34
Yeah, total number for the combined budget. 02:34:36
Currently it's at 16,000,000 six 48252. 02:34:40
Of which 12 million one 99978 is for fire. 02:34:44
And EMS is 4 million four 48271. 02:34:48
And obviously, there's some different revenue sources that will come into play here. 02:34:53
But as. 02:34:57
Advertise. That's how it breaks down. 02:34:59
Leave. The good news is that it's anticipated. 02:35:02
That all three districts will receive their. 02:35:05
Local income tax. 02:35:08
For the coming year. 02:35:10
And. 02:35:13
We're still awaiting the final. 02:35:14
DLGF Order. 02:35:16
On the fire territory, but we should get that soon. 02:35:18
So venture, Bluffy and your lead cover the total. 02:35:25
Budget sector passed through. 02:35:30
Yes, it's anticipated. There's a commitment, I think. 02:35:31
From the Council for I think, approximately 4 1/2. 02:35:34
Million and lit, it said. 02:35:37
Sounding but right. 02:35:40
Can you tell us what your total revenues will be from Levy? 02:35:46
And I guess from Levy. 02:35:50
Well, until we. 02:35:55
From Levy right now, I think the total number is. 02:35:57
11 million 35347. 02:36:05
467. 02:36:08
I think that's pre circuit breaker. 02:36:10
So it looks to be 10 million to. 02:36:14
10 million two 83245 from net property tax. 02:36:19
So you must have a lot of cash on me. 02:36:23
Oh, OK, correct. 02:36:29
The. 02:36:33
Yeah, you want me to give it a do? 02:36:37
Right, the lid for the three different units was 1,092,201 for. 02:36:41
Georgetown One Million, 304. 02:36:47
34 for New Albany Township. 02:36:49
And 1.5 million eight. 02:36:51
1004. 02:36:54
91 for Highlander. 02:36:55
Did you say 1.91.5? 02:36:58
1. 02:37:03
One 1,000,500 and 8491. 02:37:05
So that. 02:37:11
So that's 14 point. 02:37:19
From. 02:37:20
Less than $3,000,000. 02:37:23
Yeah, that's. 02:37:27
That's the 4.5 when you add those two together, sorry. 02:37:30
Do you have any cash on hand? 02:37:34
Yes. 02:37:36
Can pull up gateway and. 02:37:38
Let me look at the budget book. 02:37:43
But they'll also have revenues from operations. 02:37:45
And that is another projected revenue source. 02:37:49
Yeah, if you give me just a second, I'll have to. 02:37:58
Do you have the? 02:38:01
Most recent cash report. 02:38:02
I can pull that up or we can send you an e-mail and just let you know our most recent cash report. 02:38:05
For the fire territory, it's a little bit weird in that our territory currently, if you look at our reports, the territory only 02:38:10
includes. 02:38:13
Two of the three fire districts. 02:38:17
So our cash on hand would have to come from a third source that yet is not yet included in our reports. 02:38:19
Because it hasn't been set up that way. Try to deal. 02:38:26
Right. 02:38:28
We're so we're in kind of a transition period. 02:38:29
But you don't have you just tell me the 2. 02:38:36
There's, there's plenty of cash on here, Chief estimates, I think what 6,000,000? 02:38:39
Last month or so ago it was between 6:00 and 7:00 million, so there's 6,000,000 cash on hand. 02:38:44
And you are? 02:38:51
Got a $17.5 million budget? Would you think you can cover with revenue streams from this year? 02:38:53
That we think we can cover. 02:39:01
From revenue streams from this year. 02:39:02
The revenue streams that will be in place starting next year. 02:39:06
Will cover next year's budget. 02:39:10
Yeah, the revenue streams we have in place currently would not. 02:39:12
OK, OK. 02:39:15
All right. 02:39:20
Are there any capital expenditures here? 02:39:22
There's, I mean there's a. 02:39:28
$1,000,000 budget I believe for the equipment replacement fund. 02:39:29
And they are discussing, you know. 02:39:33
I'm sure that there's planning going on for the coming year. 02:39:36
The new board will take effect from a planning standpoint on January 1st. 02:39:40
They were all three. 02:39:46
All three districts have been involved in improving this budget. 02:39:49
And approved it. 02:39:54
First submission to you the. 02:39:55
Go back to where the personnel is, starting at the top, where the chief. 02:39:57
So how many deputy chiefs do you play on? 02:40:01
How many deputy chiefs do you play? 02:40:05
Well, we January. 02:40:07
Will have 3. 02:40:09
And then how many captains you think that? 02:40:13
Yeah, just. 02:40:16
Honestly, I don't I don't have a good answer for that. I know that approximately 100 and 12113 employees. 02:40:19
So we'll have 66 companies on duty each day. 02:40:28
Happen on each. 02:40:34
OK. 02:40:35
In the majors of the. 02:40:38
They're over. The districts will be divided into two districts, so you'll have one major on each district first. 02:40:40
At least 4. 02:40:47
Least least 66. OK. 02:40:49
OK. All right. 02:40:52
Just curious. 02:40:54
Then our our human resources. 02:40:57
No, completely separate. 02:40:59
Thank you. We'll take it under advisement and. 02:41:09
Georgetown. 02:41:16
Calendar. 02:41:19
There was a lot of. 02:41:21
Georgetown's budget is the is the fire territory. 02:41:22
You didn't know who all to put on here, so we put everybody. 02:41:25
There's been so much change. 02:41:29
Before Ruben cares any further. 02:41:32
New Albany Township Fire has a small debt that they still are addressing individually aside from the territory. 02:41:34
Their budget was not in time for advertisement purposes. 02:41:41
So we will have to find a date for a budget. 02:41:44
Very specific to New Albany Township fire and. 02:41:47
Potentially an adoption date. Specifics rolling out chest. 02:41:50
We can potentially do them at the joint meeting. 02:41:53
Yes. 02:41:56
OK, go ahead. You can get them done before October 3rd. You can adopt them the same day. 02:41:58
So, yeah, and their legal ID is fixed for the dead. I think he's working on that, right? 02:42:03
I don't either so. 02:42:11
We don't know who's doing their budget anymore, so they do have a debt, have to care. 02:42:12
They also have not submitted their contract information, so legally they can't have a debt approved. 02:42:16
So highlighters we're going to focus on for a minute. 02:42:24
The legal at what? What they really have is a debt service. 02:42:28
The debt service is about 1:50. 02:42:31
Budgets or 1:50? 02:42:33
$150,000 of their debt payments. I'm sorry. 02:42:35
Levees a little above it because of a. 02:42:38
Cash balance issue. The debt fund. 02:42:40
Needs be brought back up. 02:42:41
And then in the legal? 02:42:43
There's a $50,000 budget in the general fund because that's the. 02:42:45
Agreement between the territory and the district is the key. Little cat a little bit the revenue. 02:42:48
For their operating costs. 02:42:52
And then? 02:42:54
Otherwise, in a legal ad. 02:42:56
There's a *** fire levee and a king fire rate. Like I said, your order hasn't come out yet in case something goes wrong. 02:42:59
In this process and it doesn't get done this year. 02:43:05
I wouldn't advertise the levy fully. 02:43:07
I would recommend you go ahead and adopt the levies as advertised. 02:43:10
Because then once the territory is in place, the DLGF where do sees a zero regardless. 02:43:13
It's just a matter of if something were to happen to go wrong. I don't project anything going wrong between now and then. 02:43:18
Just protect the. 02:43:23
Highlander District. 02:43:25
Adopt the levies and then once the DLGF makes their rulings. 02:43:27
They'll reduce those back to 0 just just to be safe. 02:43:30
Otherwise, it's just a $50,000. 02:43:34
That we paid out of certified chairs. 02:43:36
And the $150,000? 02:43:38
For the dead. 02:43:40
Payment they have to maintain. 02:43:41
How long does that have to go on? 02:43:44
It's. 02:43:48
31 ish. 02:43:51
2031 ish. 02:43:52
I can't say for sure that's really close. 02:43:54
I guess 2011. 02:43:55
You want to take now. 02:43:58
10 or 11? 02:43:59
So basically, once we're out there. 02:44:00
Y'all give it? 02:44:13
Any other questions for Ruben? 02:44:16
That makes sense on the levees though, why they're there. 02:44:18
It's just, it's just a security glass. I don't foresee any issues. 02:44:20
At all, but we just never know what's going to happen to come out load cities. I'd recommend adopt the levees. 02:44:24
And. 02:44:29
What the DLGF do their business? 02:44:30
Thank you. 02:44:32
Thank you. Thank you. 02:44:34
And we'll take it under advisement. 02:44:36
Sheriff, you're up. 02:44:37
Fantastic. 02:44:44
I bet. Long day, so appreciate I'll be quick. 02:44:46
So I met with Matt and Danny on Friday, made significant cuts. 02:44:49
And so that's. 02:44:53
Thanks. 02:44:55
That's where we're at. 02:44:55
So I don't know if you have any questions of our budget, at least we'll start with. 02:44:56
General. 02:45:00
Thank you for your help. 02:45:12
No worries. Thank you. The only question I would have before I go and ask the question that the body cams. 02:45:14
I know you put in 100,000 there. 02:45:18
So you want me to explain it, Danny or what you thought? Yeah, you can go ahead. 02:45:20
So basically when we met, I did offer to Danny in terms of, you know, everybody's trying to get these next two years. 02:45:24
So we did. We do have a contract that signed for 160,000 a year. 02:45:30
So this year's budget I did offer the help cover at least half of a year. 02:45:33
With that cancer plant the budget, at least try to help out. 02:45:37
Because it's a very important. 02:45:41
Tool for us an issue across. 02:45:43
The county and what we need so putting 100,000. 02:45:45
What we call creative financing, if you will. If we pay a little bit less now, we'll have to pay more in the long run. 02:45:49
So we may be good down the road, you know, we may not, you know, but. 02:45:54
If we do cover the first year payment this year, then next year's budget. 02:45:57
We'll be able to, with the 100,000 help go a long way to Cairo not be able to add a little bit to ourselves to that. 02:46:02
It would not be too far behind, but we'll be behind. 02:46:08
So the first two payments will be behind. 02:46:10
That we'll have to make up at some point in time, the last three years. 02:46:12
We have five years to cover the whole. 02:46:16
Total amount. 02:46:18
So I'm assuming that's why you did it that way. 02:46:20
And we? 02:46:22
Did that way for discussion. 02:46:24
Purposes SO. 02:46:25
It's 160 a year. 02:46:27
We can do 100. 02:46:29
And punt 60. 02:46:30
With no interest charge or anything, it's just. 02:46:35
They call creative financing if we pay 100,000 first year, 100,000 or 120 the next year. 02:46:39
That amount that we don't pay up to 160 will come back the next three years. So my budget and. 02:46:44
Basically, you know, 28, you know, we have to decide. Do we try to do 200,000? They say 200,000 each year. 02:46:48
That 60,000 will turn into 20,000 over the last three years of the contract. 02:46:54
We did it two years, it would turn into. 02:47:00
$40,000 more. 02:47:01
The last three years would be $200,000 per year. The last three years. 02:47:03
And then it would go back after that. 02:47:06
So it's it's an option if we want to take that. 02:47:08
60,000 out. 02:47:11
Or we can. 02:47:12
Leave it in and stay on track. 02:47:13
But it but it is an option to discuss. So do we have any? 02:47:16
Any room left in the. 02:47:20
We'll get to that. 02:47:24
Yeah, we're. 02:47:27
I mean, honestly, where I sit on this is it's a cash flow. 02:47:28
Thing it's a cash flow thing, right and I. 02:47:32
I don't have any problem with me. 02:47:35
Creative side of the map. 02:47:39
I mean, it's an option to use for now and it is a significant chunk that we can. 02:47:40
So just know that is that what it's in? That's what it is in now at 100. Yeah, that's it. 02:47:46
Yeah. So that's. 02:47:53
That's an option for for next year to. 02:47:55
Get us a little further down the road and everything else was cut overall. 02:47:58
I mean. 02:48:05
For 2027. 02:48:06
Yeah, so it was last year's funding. The good thing about it is though, the payment's not due till. 02:48:09
August of next year, that is correct. 02:48:16
And so if we're running ahead of schedule? 02:48:18
Yes, we can. We can change it. 02:48:20
We can do the. 02:48:22
160. 02:48:24
Instead of the 100 so. 02:48:25
Right, right. 02:48:31
Three flexible. 02:48:33
So would the what the 75,000 from last year be applied? 02:48:34
Somewhere. 02:48:37
Yes. So they don't run January to December, so once. 02:48:39
We make that first payment, which would be coming up in the next month or two. 02:48:44
That's when it'll start. I see now that we've signed the contract. 02:48:47
It starts now, not in January. So the 75 is for 2026. You're always kind of just look this way. You're so. 02:48:50
Five years from now will be 31 year 31. 02:48:57
2031. 02:49:00
We'll be paying into the next year because we started in the fall. 02:49:02
That makes sense. So it goes for the five years from when we started making, right? 02:49:05
That makes sense though. 02:49:11
Because you had a question last time about that. 02:49:12
Well, I just, I guess I'm just. 02:49:14
I'm just an old father today. 02:49:17
People get into. 02:49:18
Billing records. Why can't they just go? 02:49:21
January. January, that's that. 02:49:23
We paid, yeah. Yeah. But when you buy a house, your house goes from the day you buy it. So how much are we paying for year 26? 02:49:25
Is that the 75,000 that's that's shot in the head? We might pay a little more because we say we would. So we might pay the 02:49:33
hundred, 120, whatever we feel like we can pay for 20. He's talking about the 75,000 that's in your budget for this year. 02:49:39
Yeah, that will go to the payment, yes. 02:49:45
And like I said before, that'll be due here in the next month or so. 02:49:49
Yeah. And I will help cover a little bit extra 100,000 that is on the budget. 02:49:52
So we're paying. 02:50:01
When from the contract was signed. 02:50:02
Until basically till the end of this year and then. 02:50:06
We were. 02:50:10
I just 75,000 goes to the payment for the 1st 12 months starting this month forward. So just say September to September. 02:50:12
But then you said it's 160,000 a year. 02:50:22
When I'm looking $175,000 between now and next August. 02:50:25
Mm-hmm. 02:50:30
That would be 320 if you want to be back. 02:50:31
We owe 160 dishes. Really. 02:50:39
How would the whole one sex movie only having equipment you paid up front? 02:50:41
You pay starting now for the next 12 months. 02:50:44
Oh, that's one empty over. 02:50:49
There you go. Yeah. 02:50:51
I'm used to paying for services as they're performed. 02:50:53
You know. 02:50:56
No, you're paying. You're paying for the service for the next 12 months. 02:50:58
Hi. Yeah, so. 02:51:02
Can I come back to the 100 I? 02:51:05
I'd like to see us keep it at 100 for the next year. 02:51:07
I think it's. 02:51:11
You get. 02:51:12
The best of both worlds. It frees up space and it. 02:51:13
Gives you the opportunity to catch it up if you if you have the ability to so. 02:51:16
Just understand that there has to be in there at some budget come right. 02:51:21
Or a little bit more. My hope would be that we could. 02:51:25
Catch it up. 02:51:29
Yes, you have my pleasure. Like I told you, I would help out. 02:51:30
Gillette, Oh, anything else on the general fund? 02:51:36
Gillette. 02:51:39
Go ahead. 02:51:40
Denise, you had a question. 02:51:41
So we move the cars out of that in the gold bonds. 02:51:45
So that was part of that and then we put some of the numbers back to where they were. 02:51:49
Working with Matt and Danny, we got it down pretty close. 02:51:53
Pause. 02:51:57
Thank you. 02:51:59
Well, we're still not done for this year, that's all. Another discussion but we get. 02:52:01
Some numbers. 02:52:04
But yeah, so we got fairly close where we had in the gold bonds and I'll have to come back in January for those. 02:52:06
And then maybe a little bit extra from the public safety or wherever. 02:52:10
And then this year? 02:52:13
Potentially. Possibly if they get those luxury cars. If not. 02:52:15
That's your own subscription, but. 02:52:18
So any questions on this hill? 02:52:21
Does everybody understand what happened there? 02:52:22
300,000 was moved out of vehicle line. 02:52:24
Just totally taken out. 02:52:27
And then the go, he'll use the GO bond money. 02:52:28
For vehicle purchases. 02:52:31
And yeah. 02:52:33
And. 02:52:36
There's the potential there. 02:52:38
If he doesn't spend everything. 02:52:40
And PS Lit. 02:52:42
That that's either going to shore up jail it or. 02:52:43
Our decision. 02:52:47
Could go to the two extra vehicles that he needs to get them back. 02:52:48
In cycle to where we are so have objected. 02:52:51
Go ahead, there's enough money in the GO bond. There's 492. 02:52:55
492 in the gold mine vehicles. 02:52:59
88. 02:53:02
And we really need it about, like I said before, 10 this year and 10 next year to catch up. 02:53:07
Because we have quite a few vehicles that are approaching that 80,000 mark. If you remember correctly, we have 13 and we got the 02:53:11
eight this year. So we're down to 5. 02:53:15
730 card of 70,000 be over 80,000 next year, so there's some potentially about 12 cars that will be around the 80,000 mark. 02:53:19
But you get your best trade in value at that point in time and then plus that's usually about three years in so. 02:53:26
Mechanically it keeps it up without having to be in a garage a lot. 02:53:31
So again, that's. 02:53:34
That was a push for the 10. 02:53:36
10 cars this year next. 02:53:37
All right, any other questions and we'll we'll deal with. 02:53:43
Jill it toward the end of the year see where we. 02:53:47
Where we're going to land. 02:53:49
As far as? 02:53:51
Some unappropriation and projected number if you want now or we could talk further down the road, I can speak with Diane or 02:53:53
whatever so. 02:53:56
All right, Yeah, let's get a little bit closer. Yeah. 02:54:00
OK. 02:54:03
And there's another fun I think on there. 02:54:05
You've got your. 02:54:09
9160 that's that's funded through JRAC. 02:54:12
Transitional coordinator position. 02:54:18
You guys have some costs. 02:54:21
Public safety said dispatchers had a public safety as on your screen currently. 02:54:23
Meals Meals in the medical. 02:54:28
Medical, we just don't know the analyzation or the analyzation. 02:54:31
Public safety as well. 02:54:39
The meals, I think we're keeping it a low or close to a dollar. 02:54:40
Dollar want to play somewhere in there? 02:54:43
So that's been very good. Been trying to keep that down. 02:54:45
We won't know a true value on the medical the inmate medical bills. 02:54:48
Baptist stopped paying in June, so. 02:54:52
The ideas then end of the year we'll get kind of a goal what we pay for six months and then projected out for next year, so. 02:54:54
We hopefully we have enough in there to cover, but you just that's one of things you just never know. 02:55:00
So it's a guesstimate. 02:55:04
That everything else is going fine. Wasn't there some other program that you were thinking about using for the medical? 02:55:07
Services. No, not that I'm aware of. 02:55:13
I think you might be remembering when you have to start. 02:55:16
And honestly, we're covering, we're covering those costs. It just turned out that we're getting a few of them a month. 02:55:23
Right now we're just covering them. 02:55:29
I don't think New Albany is utilizing it, but that's. 02:55:31
Their choice. 02:55:33
So at this point, we're covering that cost. 02:55:34
Is there any way to bring that medical services down? 02:55:37
You have a medical contract about 1.2 million. 02:55:41
And then you have the medical inmate medical bills and. 02:55:44
No, it's just one of those things you. 02:55:47
Got to have a medical if we had our own. 02:55:49
There's more liability, probably more cost potentially. 02:55:51
So having that medical contract is important. 02:55:53
So, and there is. 02:55:57
I won't say cost savings built into it, but not having to. 02:56:00
Go out for a blood draw and. 02:56:03
Doing it there are some. 02:56:05
That's it. Should cut down on some. 02:56:07
Over. 02:56:10
Keep everybody in house and stuff as well. I don't know, I always thought that. 02:56:11
You know Indiana should have its own. 02:56:15
Medical. 02:56:19
Coverage. 02:56:20
An umbrella for everybody, and you join in on Indiana. 02:56:21
Like for correctional facilities, Yeah. 02:56:28
I mean, it just makes sense to me that they would. 02:56:34
Dude, their own. 02:56:36
I've always thought that the. 02:56:40
State employee insurance should. 02:56:43
Filter down to the counties and let us buy into that as well, but. 02:56:45
Indiana would itself. 02:56:50
I don't know. 02:56:55
Thank you. 02:56:57
Secondary. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, we'll take it under advisement. 02:56:59
Yes, thanks for. 02:57:02
The work. 02:57:04
We appreciate it and the. 02:57:06
Alright. 02:57:12
Parks Department. 02:57:14
Matt, you're. 02:57:18
They don't ever clean boss. 02:57:21
All right. Didn't hear. You're fine. 02:57:28
Thank you guys. 02:57:30
You want to start in any certain order or. 02:57:33
1178 is primarily. 02:57:36
We didn't even request, Yeah. 02:57:39
We'll come to you at the first of the year. That's our shelter house income. 02:57:42
And everything else is grants, so a lot of those are in progress. It'd be hard for me to. 02:57:45
To budget, but we'll come back at that first meeting we also have. 02:57:50
86 something we have a separate fund for the Land and Water Conservation grant that because it's a state federal grant, it had to 02:57:54
be separate. 02:57:58
We'll come back the first of the year that's in progress as well. 02:58:03
So. 02:58:06
Yeah. So 1179, OK. 02:58:09
Just curiosity man. 02:58:12
Yeah, but has anybody bought it at the rental fees? 02:58:15
No, no. I mean, we've just slightly increased about everything across the board and tried to. 02:58:18
Create some new fees as well and. 02:58:24
We really don't hear much feedback on still the same. 02:58:26
Number of rentals yeah, yeah, yeah and we've been a little down this year because the. 02:58:30
Shelter for now, the Lakeside pavilions been closed for renovations with the Legacy Grant, right? And so that's where so many 02:58:35
family reunions, we've had to either move them or they've had to. 02:58:40
Find other places so. 02:58:45
That hurts us a little bit, but we had to shut it to get construction. 02:58:47
Finish and it's just now about done. 02:58:51
So. 02:58:53
1179 is what I consider our Southern Indiana Sports Center account. It's the one that's got the. 02:58:55
Big balance, but anytime you have a consultant come in, it's always on their list of what's this. 02:59:01
But that's money that. 02:59:07
For years we have. 02:59:08
Made I look at the sports that are effectively, as you know, running a business inside of the Parks Department. 02:59:10
We get no tax money for that building. 02:59:16
And a lot of that stuff is volleyball rentals, admission fees, concessions. 02:59:18
Leagues, tournaments, and then in the last few years we've created a whole another line of programming. 02:59:24
That also goes into there, so. 02:59:29
The budget for that you don't. If you have any questions, let me know. But we obviously want to really protect that big balance 02:59:31
because that Sports Center is now 28 years old. 02:59:36
And while I'm very proud about how clean it was when I got it, it's still clean. 02:59:41
It's it's due for some upgrades and repairs. There's a sign out front that's damaged. It's going to be a big lick. There's a 02:59:45
rooftop HVAC unit that won't make it through another summer. 02:59:51
And there's some floor, just some modernization to keep up with all these new buildings that are coming. 02:59:56
So. 03:00:01
But yeah, that budget primarily funds that building referees, part time staff. 03:00:02
Concession purchases, those types of things. 03:00:08
All right. Any questions? 03:00:11
On this fund. 03:00:14
All right. 03:00:17
Our big one is 12/19. 03:00:21
That's our taxpayer driven fund. 03:00:23
And other than salaries, which you guys asked us to do those increases? 03:00:26
There are just a few increases. Most of them were things connected to employees or salaries. 03:00:31
Like longevity and deferred compensation, just a few things along those lines. 03:00:37
Other lines the real notable line is contractual services. We. 03:00:43
After meeting with Dale and and Matt requested 15 more for that, 15,000 more for that. 03:00:48
And then repairs and maintenance, We had raised it up just a little bit. 03:00:54
And then after meeting with with our council reps, we. 03:00:58
Asked to create a new line. I'm sure with the new software it couldn't be called specifically what we wanted it, but. 03:01:02
What I'm realizing in year 3 or so is playground maintenance is a big deal. We have a lot of playgrounds that are extremely used 03:01:08
across our park system. 03:01:13
And most of them, except for Hammersmith, are dated. 03:01:17
And we're trying to replace parts. And it's not like you can just go to the hardware store and get that screw or get that swing. A 03:01:21
lot of them are specific parts based on the manufacturer, so. 03:01:26
Simple things we keep in house that we can afford to keep bulk of, but there's a lot of stair steps that have rusted and. 03:01:31
Other pieces that you just can't imagine what the replacement part is so. 03:01:37
Just to help us stay organized, we had asked to create a playground maintenance line that looks like that's been combined with the 03:01:41
repairs and maintenance line. 03:01:45
To raise that a total of $13,500, but those are really our increases and I'm happy to answer, try to justify anything that you you 03:01:49
need from me related to those. 03:01:55
Well, I also think it's important to note too that playground maintenance thing becomes a liability. 03:02:00
Yeah, yeah. 03:02:04
If we don't. 03:02:06
Start somewhere. 03:02:07
It's going to be a lot better than $13,000. 03:02:09
Right. 03:02:11
The other thing with 12/19, I'm sorry I'm still not great on my terminology but. 03:02:13
Because you guys have been so kind the last couple budget cycles to. 03:02:18
Gently raised contractual services and a couple things so we could do a little bit more. You also have added a couple maintenance 03:02:22
people over the last four years. 03:02:26
This was the first year and Diana, if you could help me that first of the year. 03:02:30
We had to come to you all to. 03:02:35
Not transfer but. 03:02:37
Outside of what the levee can handle. 03:02:38
To put more into. 03:02:41
The council voted last year to supplement the budget because the levy couldn't be adjusted to support the ask. 03:02:43
It's something that this council is going to consider again this year. I think it's short by about $260,000 between the ask, the 03:02:51
political support. 03:02:55
What that means is that if I were to send the budget as is without any additional monitoring listed to the state. 03:02:59
After budget and option they will send me back an adjusted 1782 stating that they cannot approve. 03:03:06
The requested budget for that support, so the Council will have before them so. 03:03:12
So what there's? 03:03:21
There, there's a percentage. 03:03:24
That goes to parks health department. 03:03:26
General. 03:03:30
Away from any of those pieces. 03:03:32
Portion that goes to parks right now. 03:03:35
Does not support this act. 03:03:38
So what are the four? 03:03:40
Other files Department, General Fund, Parks and Rec and. 03:03:41
Library. 03:03:47
Reassessment I think is. 03:03:49
We've talked about this since before you were director, and we're still talking about how. 03:04:00
Underfunded, this department is and. 03:04:06
Just continue to. 03:04:13
Look for ways to get it where it needs to be because. 03:04:14
What would the percentage change have to be to get the 250 and can? What would? 03:04:17
What would the impact be on reassessment to take that? 03:04:23
From. 03:04:27
Take it from reassessment or. 03:04:29
The health department what would be the impact of reassessment? 03:04:31
And if we took 240? 03:04:34
That percentage, no, I know, but I mean, is it going to be? 03:04:37
Like what's the reassessment budget from this? 03:04:42
Yeah, yeah. 03:04:48
I agree, we just keep. 03:04:52
Talking about it needs to. It needs to be done. 03:04:54
I know change the percentage. 03:04:57
I know you guys have a long day, so I only just if you have any questions, I just want to say a couple quick things. 03:05:01
You know, I know you guys are well aware of the funding situation for Parks and Recreation. 03:05:07
We have worked extremely hard with some support to land a number of grants. 03:05:12
We're working really hard at another. 03:05:16
Big round of applications for next year. 03:05:19
That will be sending those grant forms to you guys soon for as they come up we've been. 03:05:22
Very successful in getting grant money. 03:05:27
And also. 03:05:30
You know, we're starting a parks foundation. We're in the final. 03:05:32
Stages of that. The Parks board hopefully tonight will approve that. 03:05:35
And that will be a 501C3 nonprofit that. 03:05:39
We're modeling around the state what some of the more successful parks departments have done. 03:05:43
So I want you to know that our staff is doing everything we can to. 03:05:48
Look for find alternative funding, even small amounts 5000 bucks from the Caesars Foundation to help support some of our sports 03:05:51
programs goes a long way. 03:05:56
The other thing I want to mention is I know the Parks board has an appetite. 03:06:01
It's been a while. 03:06:05
Predates me to do a workshop with you guys on a Saturday, whether it be later this year, before the holidays or into the first 03:06:06
quarter of next year. 03:06:10
You know, umm. 03:06:14
We're going to be presenting some numbers to you as we've studied and put plans together for the Parks Foundation that show. 03:06:16
Unbelievably, how underfunded we are. 03:06:22
When it comes, even if you take out the population of New Albany. 03:06:25
And of Georgetown because they technically have a parks. 03:06:29
Operation in a park. 03:06:32
And even if you take out Greenville, which we have the park in Greenville, but. 03:06:33
It is unbelievable the staff we don't have, the money we don't have. 03:06:38
About the only thing we're even close on is we're within the realm of the acreage that we should have for. 03:06:42
Our county and our population so. 03:06:47
I get it. I know the challenges. I have an understanding somewhat of the challenges ahead for you guys that make the financial 03:06:50
decisions, but I want to keep this stuff fresh with you. 03:06:55
So, you know as some. 03:07:00
Things come down if there is a chance to adjust or. 03:07:01
Redo things that maybe we could get where we're at a reasonable point. 03:07:04
Compared to police, fire and other other important things you have to consider. 03:07:08
The other thing I want to say too is that. 03:07:12
I can't stress this enough, we have. 03:07:15
Beautiful parks. They are really beautiful, I feel like, and I've been to all of them. 03:07:18
I feel like our park system that we have can compete with anything when it comes to acreage and nature and some of the things that 03:07:23
we have that other communities don't. 03:07:27
But most of them are very much aging. 03:07:32
Community Park had been largely untouched since it was built in the 1960s. There are so many issues there. 03:07:34
The master plan identified that. 03:07:41
I'd like to do this for a while, but I've got to know we've got some backing. 03:07:43
To. 03:07:48
It slowly, slowly improves something here. 03:07:49
And things can really add up when you just pick little projects. And we've tried to do internal things. 03:07:52
Whether it's a new swing set here or small little improvements, just to let the public know, we understand, we recognize we're 03:07:58
here, we care. 03:08:02
But there are going to be some major things coming down the line. 03:08:06
That when it comes to maintenance and playgrounds and shelters, that. 03:08:10
We do not have the grant or the answer for. 03:08:13
And so I want to continue to remind you of that that are. 03:08:16
Generally, are you OK to? 03:08:20
Work with the. 03:08:22
And President Short on a workshop in the coming months on a Saturday for a couple hours when we could. 03:08:23
Ride together and go see a few things. Is that possible? 03:08:30
I'll work with you all to schedule. 03:08:35
If it gets too close to the holidays we might wait till the 1st of the year. Actually didn't we do that a couple years ago? Man, 03:08:41
it was before I was here and I'm coming up on four years so it's been. I thought it was an enjoyable day. I'll be 4 in December I 03:08:45
think. 03:08:50
So I thought it was an enjoyable day just available in the park. 03:08:54
We'll we'll take care of you soon. 03:08:59
I'm not sure that's that's. 03:09:02
I get X on that one. 03:09:05
No, but I enjoyed just like. 03:09:07
A lot of people don't know it but like that. 03:09:09
Frisbee. 03:09:12
That court. 03:09:14
Is Gary, Kevin, Gavin, Garrett, Kevin. I mean they're that's recognized nationally. 03:09:15
Yeah, a lot of people don't know that. 03:09:19
Yeah. Thank you all. 03:09:22
Yeah, we'll take this under advisement. I'd like to look for some opportunities when we switch over to the new lit structure. 03:09:24
If we can hold out that long. 03:09:34
It would be a good. 03:09:36
That'd be a good opportunity. 03:09:37
Because everything is changing at once. 03:09:39
Why can't? Again, I can't. 03:09:42
The Parks board will tell you this. There have been. There been no. 03:09:44
Nothing. And the last two budgets. 03:09:47
3 budgets that I've been involved, you all have. 03:09:50
Help with another maintenance worker. You've increased things smallly, and even small things allow us to make a difference in some 03:09:53
of our parks, so we appreciate it. We'll work with you any way we can. 03:09:57
But I just want to always keep that on the radar. 03:10:02
Absolutely. 03:10:05
It's we're essentially a holding pattern. 03:10:07
Yeah. 03:10:10
Even on this year's. 03:10:12
Well. 03:10:14
Just no, we still want to supplement you. Yeah, I'm talking about getting. 03:10:15
You to where you need to be. Oh, yes, yeah, totally understand. I think we can. 03:10:18
We can restructure some things and look for some opportunities when that new lip structure hits. 03:10:23
For sure. 03:10:28
Especially if. 03:10:29
Certain. 03:10:30
Other things happen. 03:10:31
Along the way. 03:10:33
Thank you. I know you have a lot of priorities. I just want to try to keep you updated with what what we're dealing with. 03:10:36
It's just operation sides after this. So no, no big deal. We're good. 03:10:41
Thank you all very much. 03:10:45
Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. 03:10:46
Stanley, Are you ready? 03:10:50
Time to go to the bathroom. 03:10:53
Yeah, You want to pull up a chair? You're going to be there for a minute. 03:11:01
Reclaim. 03:11:04
Yeah, you're welcome. 03:11:06
One of the things that I'd like to say before we start, if I may, is. 03:11:10
We've met independent, we've met it collectively as a group with Matt and all of the department heads. 03:11:15
Donna here through facilities. Sydney, Gary. 03:11:21
Everybody, we're trying to all pull pull our resources as a county and work together. 03:11:25
To try to save pennies where we can. 03:11:30
As you know, you take care of the pennies, the dollars take care of themselves. So we're trying to pool a lot more of our 03:11:33
resources. 03:11:36
By working together, if Sydney can send a crew out to help Matt do a project or. 03:11:39
Donnie can help Laurice or whatever the the situation may indicate. 03:11:44
These folks are really we, we've got it. You, you have put together a great team and these people are trying to work together. 03:11:49
To move this county forward as inexpensively. 03:11:56
Yet as efficiently as we possibly can so. 03:11:59
We're trying to help Matt as well. We pulled him on board trying to find some savings for him as well. I know Sydney's helping him 03:12:02
with quite a few projects. 03:12:06
I just want to kind of lay that out there to start the the conversation because. 03:12:10
We're trying to do a lot of things. 03:12:15
So, so if I may, before we even dive into the budgets. 03:12:17
Couple of things that I just wanted to bring up. 03:12:22
Beforehand #1 the band for the Chase Tower. 03:12:25
2029 is the expiration date on that. 03:12:29
There's $1.5 million still held out in the escrow account. 03:12:33
That is set aside for the renovation of the 4th floor. When and if. 03:12:39
Clark Dietz and the other company. 03:12:43
That's up there. 03:12:46
They do move out. 03:12:47
Prior to or an early exit. 03:12:48
So that we could start the renovation project. So that doesn't actually hit your plate. 03:12:51
What hits your plate is the fact that it's a ban in 2029. That ban. 03:12:55
There has to be some financial call on, on that aspect and that's I think 10.25 million. 03:13:00
And then the chase tower. 03:13:07
Are the Chase Grantland facility that also is in a band? 03:13:09
That band is set to expire in 2030. 03:13:13
The issue there that I bring to your attention is. 03:13:17
Not so much preparing yet for the how we're going to navigate the band, but what are we going to do about? 03:13:21
The payments. 03:13:27
We're paying interest only on Grantland facility 3317 grant line. 03:13:29
The utilities, those components have been all pretty much covered from the ban funds. 03:13:34
Right now I'm. 03:13:40
Trying to incorporate as an option for you and and. 03:13:41
Not having yet talked with all the Commissioners about this. 03:13:46
The ban payments for grant line I've incorporated into the CD fund in the request for this year's budget, our 27th budget. 03:13:49
Repairs and maintenance to both facilities are being incorporated into the Edit Fund. 03:13:57
Which is obviously maxing out the edit fund and. 03:14:03
I said repairing, maintenance and utilities. 03:14:06
So things that. 03:14:08
You know, we haven't had to deal with yet. 03:14:10
Those are things that we guys are thinking about as we move forward in the 27 as well. 03:14:12
I've built a spreadsheet that has all of our debt obligations I've shared with Diana. She's kind of. 03:14:17
Roof read it for me to make sure I miss anything. 03:14:22
Some of my adjustments from the first initial budget to level 2 budget was in the process of me updating and building the 27. 03:14:25
Debt obligations. 03:14:33
So I had to amend for some of the bond payments so we know exactly where the bonds are being paid from, bond demands are being 03:14:34
paid from so. 03:14:38
Just like again, a prelude to to that part. 03:14:43
Yes. Can we stop, right. There's a lot of information already. 03:14:48
She's going to throw out a couple things because. 03:14:53
I think I've. 03:14:55
Said this before, but. 03:14:56
I know the intention going into this Chase building was to pay it off. 03:14:58
But there is no possible way we're going to come up with that kind of money and pay this off. 03:15:03
We should just. 03:15:08
In my opinion, we should start, we should bond this thing. 03:15:09
ASAP. 03:15:14
And get on with the. 03:15:15
Paying them the. 03:15:18
Annual payments. 03:15:20
On the phone. 03:15:22
That's my opinion. I don't see. I just don't see how. 03:15:24
There's a different option here. 03:15:28
Stan it would it be beneficial to? 03:15:30
To combine. 03:15:32
The two bands into one bond. 03:15:34
To provide them into a bond so that you are only making one payment of a building and I. 03:15:37
I'm not aware of that, so I apologize for not having prepared that part of the conversation. 03:15:42
Most of my band and bonding conversations have been with Barry, Mr. Bingham, so them and Crow I think were involved in both of 03:15:47
what? 03:15:52
And which one will you talk? Oh, you were doing each of them, each of them independently. I've never and I apologize and I haven't 03:15:56
talked about. 03:15:59
Potentially pulling them both together. It's 2 points. 03:16:03
2752 hundred 2,750,000 I believe it was. 03:16:09
If I'm misremembering. 03:16:14
Except when we originally purchased the Chase Tower, we did it as a band because we knew we were going to be purchasing a building 03:16:16
for the health department, and we did that as a band with the goal. 03:16:20
Combine the two at a later date. 03:16:25
As a bond option. 03:16:28
And I think part of the conversation at least logged in the ordinance when it was adopted, was that there was going to be freed up 03:16:30
public safety monies. 03:16:34
Are the monies we're going to be maneuvered in the public safety to free up funds to actually pay that off so. 03:16:38
Again, the two components. 03:16:43
And that was the thought. But there's been a lot of. 03:16:45
Pressure put on? Yes Sir. 03:16:48
Not only public safety lit, but also. 03:16:50
Renovation cost of the grant Line facility? Yes Sir. So. 03:16:52
I don't disagree that it most likely is going to have to. 03:16:57
Go to a bond but. 03:17:00
But if you do that now and you get it in place in 2027, then you have a bond payment. 03:17:02
That you can make well. 03:17:09
Right. 03:17:11
We can't. 03:17:12
Flip great line into a bond yet? 03:17:13
I think you can prior to the the expiration of the band, I think. 03:17:16
Right. 03:17:20
We can't until we're. 03:17:21
Moved in and everything well. 03:17:22
But there will be. 03:17:26
Ancillary costs until the first of the year. 03:17:27
With bills coming in. 03:17:31
For that, yeah. But that bands that bands exhausted. 03:17:33
That's why you think council committed half a million, Commissioners committed half a million from the gold mine. 03:17:36
I mean my in my opinion, we should. 03:17:42
I think we should move on bonding those two things. 03:17:47
If we can bind bonds. 03:17:51
In the building. 03:17:53
Could we still hold the million and a half out for renovations of the? 03:17:55
Chase tower that, that's still that I treat. I'm treating that as sort of a separate component currently. 03:17:59
Right, not taking relinquishing those funds back to the. 03:18:04
The other the dead obligation, right so. 03:18:08
Along your thoughts. 03:18:10
Yes, if you still. 03:18:12
Address the ban of the. 03:18:14
25 versus and combine the two. Yes, I. 03:18:16
And I can explore a couple of options just to gather some information. 03:18:22
Yeah, I think. 03:18:26
Yeah, if you like, we need to. 03:18:27
Start down that road. 03:18:29
Of what that looks like, wouldn't there be cost savings? 03:18:31
Because you wouldn't have to have attorney fees and all that for two different bonds. It's just one bond. 03:18:34
Absolutely. I never get, I think, yeah, I totally so. 03:18:39
You know it's not gonna well, and then you know you've got. 03:18:43
Crawling him guys. 03:18:45
They're working on. 03:18:47
Rent on road property, that's one fee and if we're working on this property, that's a separate fee. They're working on one bond 03:18:48
for two buildings. 03:18:51
I would think they. 03:18:55
Professional services fee would go down and then you could know what that payment needs to be before your budget before the 2820 03:18:57
even the 29 budget if you. 03:19:01
If you if this if this. 03:19:06
Delegated in the 28th. 03:19:08
Right. 03:19:12
And, but honestly, I mean, I, I remember sitting in that discussion with the health department building, that was the intent. 03:19:15
And the two of us got into deep discussions. 03:19:21
But my whole point was is that we should be able to combine this because I know at that time too there's conversation about the. 03:19:24
You know, the animal shelter and everything. 03:19:29
So I think we're at the point to actually start with. 03:19:31
OK. 03:19:34
I can gather some information preliminarily, and I can. 03:19:36
Send it out. 03:19:39
Two fantastic folks. That's OK. We'll see. 03:19:40
I'm just it's, it becomes a timing thing now. 03:19:44
I think. 03:19:48
It'd be good at least they're gathering your information to know what. 03:19:49
Potentially it looks like. 03:19:52
Right, and and and even if it's an option. 03:19:54
We, you know, we define both ends of the spectrum and somewhere in between we may decide to settle or figure out where our career 03:19:57
path is going to be. 03:20:00
With that, I don't want to. 03:20:04
Try to time the market but. 03:20:06
We have an expert, obviously. Fantastic. 03:20:10
But they're protected to go up the brakes have all about. 03:20:14
They were projected to be down by this time this year, but. 03:20:18
Brakes are always fun. Never never try to time it, just just go. 03:20:22
If I may, I'm just going to switch a few gears. You stop me whenever you need to before we get into the budget. So thanks for your 03:20:27
patience. I appreciate it. 03:20:31
So there's been a lot of discussion about vehicles and. 03:20:35
Life of vehicles and equipment through the county. 03:20:38
If you're not aware, I want to make you aware that the Commissioners through. 03:20:42
Sydney, Maine highway director. 03:20:46
Has entered into an agreement for a preventive maintenance program. We're logging all of our vehicles. 03:20:48
And equipment through his program. 03:20:54
To hopefully extend the life of all of our vehicles as you know, we reach. 03:20:57
In the life and all of a sudden we're scrambling for replacement vehicles. 03:21:04
You know, in equipment, I mean we're still doing that. The road department, our the commissioners have committed go buying funds. 03:21:08
For buying two more. 03:21:15
Large trucks for 2027 so. 03:21:18
That money was so sad and earmarked and the commissioners portion of the Gold Bond so. 03:21:21
Will be advertising for that soon, but the program itself and to alleviate the fears we've had, I've had discussions with a lot of 03:21:26
the. 03:21:29
Department heads about their vehicle fleet and equipment fleet or equipment pieces. 03:21:33
So that we can get them on a rotational basis, especially a preventive maintenance. 03:21:38
Program and what the road department, what we have a kind of temporarily agreed to is that we will maintain. 03:21:44
Sydney's team will maintain this. 03:21:50
The only charge going back to the apartments will be for the parts. We don't charge for labor or anything like that is strictly 03:21:54
just. 03:21:57
You know, if you needed four new tires, we're going to charge you back for four new tires. 03:22:00
You know, because his department, we're not strictly set up to maintain the entire fleet at this point. 03:22:05
We're going to work in maintaining and extending the life, but. 03:22:10
We're not there to be able to pay for everything just yet. 03:22:13
So. 03:22:16
Let's see. 03:22:18
The other thing is probably a budget issue on deferred comp. 03:22:21
I have consulted with Diana and worked with Michelle trying to. 03:22:26
What we have obviously and I'm sure you're aware if you were on negotiate negotiating teams for the bargaining units is that they 03:22:31
bargaining units have negotiated for $150.00 match, 100% match. 03:22:36
Up to a Max $150.00 for deferred comp. 03:22:43
No. 03:22:46
Corrections already gets 100 and dispatch Rd. apt doesn't. 03:22:49
So it's not a dramatic change for one of those departments. It's a consistency for one, and then it's a fairly dramatic change for 03:22:53
the other. 03:22:57
Yeah, it's seven. It's currently 1750 for approximately what, 250 employees, I guess, in the county? 03:23:01
Yeah, and it's $450 match for people to invest in a. 03:23:12
Retirement program. 03:23:17
Investing in themselves. 03:23:20
And the current request is. 03:23:21
If you would consider raising that to $50.00 to shorten or narrow that gap between some of the bargaining units? 03:23:26
For the rest of the campaign. 03:23:34
Correct me if I'm wrong, commissioners are on board with this idea. 03:23:35
As long as the Council is willing to fund it, I will tell you the deferred budget that is currently in front of you supports. 03:23:39
Raising. 03:23:46
Over 200 Keep in mind, not every garden participates in this program, but it supports raising. 03:23:47
The county match to $50 per base. 03:23:53
For normal employees that aren't under. 03:23:57
A bargaining unit contract, so. 03:24:00
$100,000. 03:24:05
I don't make $1000, so quite frank. 03:24:07
Quite correctly. Well, that comes for the increase that's happening on the contracts as well. 03:24:09
Because some of that refund. 03:24:15
So. 03:24:17
We held. 03:24:18
Corrections. 03:24:19
And communications. 03:24:21
Yeah, so they stated, they stated they're staying. 03:24:24
We didn't raise dispatch to 100, did we? 03:24:30
They were. They were at 100 I think. 03:24:33
Dispatch. 03:24:36
They're both at 100. 03:24:39
And and longevity is staying the same. 03:24:42
So they're not going up from 1:50. 03:24:46
There's this thing saying this year. 03:24:50
It's just an attempt to show the employees we're narrowing the gap just slightly. 03:24:54
You're such an absent disparity and benefits between employees that aren't under contract employees that are. 03:24:58
And faced it. 03:25:05
Let's be. 03:25:08
The Sheriff's Department retained 4 benefit days that all of the other employees lost. 03:25:09
In a super fun backdoor deal. 03:25:13
Council and I say that. 03:25:16
2 year old station. 03:25:18
Those were days that were given in lieu of raises over 2 decades and then they were taken away from the body of employees. 03:25:19
And a 6% raise was given, which actually really only pulled out to 3 1/2% if you factor in those benefit days lost and there's a 03:25:26
massive disparity and the the deferred comp match. 03:25:32
So you have a body of employees that get either 150 or $100, up to 100% of that matched in contribution. 03:25:37
You have over 200 employees that if they were to participate they only get $17.50 a paycheck. 03:25:46
What that tells the bodies of employees is that they're not worth the same amount as those other departments. 03:25:51
I don't benefit from. 03:25:57
For many of this. 03:25:59
But my staff does. 03:26:00
And my staff works incredibly hard. 03:26:02
The last couple years have been a nightmare for them with SB1. 03:26:05
Stan. Stan Staff. 03:26:08
They work incredibly hard. 03:26:10
Road Department. 03:26:12
The third comp wasn't addressed in their union contract, but I'm pretty sure we like the fact that they get out and. 03:26:14
Clear our streets and cut down the trees that fall and. 03:26:20
Make it to where we don't fall on our boats when we walk. 03:26:24
In somewhere. 03:26:26
This is something that really does need to happen. 03:26:30
It really does. 03:26:33
And again, the reason I bring it up, I have read this with the Commissioners and their support was. 03:26:35
Not 100% unfunded mandate obviously, but it was like let's negotiate with the council and if we can. 03:26:40
Find the funding source. 03:26:45
They're in agreement. They think that it should be addressed, It could be addressed. 03:26:47
Potentially, that was my question. It is factored in here. 03:26:51
Yeah, so it's laying a foundation. 03:26:56
This is the discussions for Foundation moving forward and I think that's kind of why we entertain today the way we do is to. 03:26:58
As you've noted on all the budgets today take under advisement, I think these are just parts of. 03:27:06
The overall, overall process, so. 03:27:11
Want to present that to you as well. 03:27:13
Yeah, Yeah, we could probably listen a little bit. 03:27:17
For what? For those departments, are you held steady? Yeah, because the increases in well, we have a. 03:27:22
We're in the final stages of green on contracts with both of them, but. 03:27:28
What do you know when the contract is going to be done? 03:27:33
Yes, that's the goal. 03:27:37
But I wanted it factored in there. 03:27:42
As a whole, so that and they're both. 03:27:44
2%. 03:27:47
Yeah, that's already back in. Yep. 03:27:48
Right. 03:27:54
Now that deferred comp that you says factored in for all the employees. 03:27:56
That that number is for all. 03:28:01
Non bargaining employees non bargaining employees and and if the road department ties theirs to the. 03:28:04
So the handbook then? 03:28:09
Like we talked to the. 03:28:12
Corrections and dispatch. 03:28:13
Not everybody's going to participate. So that number is there, but we may not have to spend that amount because you said 200 out 03:28:16
of. 03:28:19
How many? 03:28:23
Well, what total number of employees on the county side, probably 250 because I think 160 is. 03:28:25
170 is the Sheriff's Sheriff's Department. 03:28:32
But as out of that 200 not all 2O no, I I've got Michelle's pulled me a list. I can even give you the list of the active employees 03:28:35
currently. 03:28:39
That's under that arena, so. 03:28:43
Anyway, again, just have the commissioners agreed to four days. 03:28:47
They they, if I may, they, they asked me to bring it up at the the next joint meeting. OK. 03:28:51
So, but we're just kind of giving you again foundation for discussions as you know in that ordinance there were. 03:28:55
There was 9 different components tied to that one. That was 1 component. 03:29:02
And that's the only component that in consulting with Diana that we felt like we could bring. 03:29:06
To you, that we all felt was reasonable and just. 03:29:11
And that was the restoration of those four paid time off dates. 03:29:15
It has no. 03:29:20
No, because it's addressed even in in. 03:29:22
You are what, the four days fat? 03:29:24
That's what you're asking. 03:29:27
That's yes. 03:29:28
Four days back and we've been first. 03:29:30
Yes, that's my race. 03:29:34
Yes. 03:29:37
Was in that in that resolution when it was passed originally, as I alluded to? 03:29:38
You know none of these are paid out paid. 03:29:43
A personal time is not paid out. It can't carry forward. Sick time is paid out at a prorated portion. 03:29:46
For employees hired. 03:29:52
For a certain date. 03:29:54
Was it, was it OK? So at that point, no employees were paid out for. 03:29:56
You know, that was part of that entire resolution I've got to. 03:30:00
Copy of it in my briefcase if you'd like to see it, but there was like. 03:30:04
Seven or eight, Yeah, there were nine different. 03:30:08
90 different components. 03:30:10
And as we alluded earlier. 03:30:13
We've not kept up with. 03:30:16
We'll call it. 03:30:18
The CPI or the Polo? 03:30:19
That's. 03:30:21
Great at all over the last couple years. 03:30:23
Because. 03:30:25
But what we can do for employees? And again, I'm an elected official, so this doesn't at all. 03:30:27
There was one year there was an 8% and we most certainly didn't do that well the year. 03:30:32
The year they did the study was 8.7 and they gave what was it right out of six just to bring them up. 03:30:37
Yeah. 03:30:43
But is that the only year? No, there I can pull, I can pull you to years. 03:30:45
I thought we had done pretty good, even we've done good at. 03:30:49
Given a cost of living each year, just not. 03:30:53
To the level that it was. 03:30:56
Sam and I talked about it and we reviewed the original ordinance and we decided. 03:30:58
Adding the benefit days back to standard employees. 03:31:04
Helps again bridge that gap of disparity and benefits and cost the county nothing. 03:31:08
And then? 03:31:13
Raising the deferred comp match for regular employees up to $50 again is. 03:31:14
Slowly but surely closing that gap in benefits. We're not asking to match up to $100. We're not. 03:31:21
And again, now there's two more sick days and two more P days. 03:31:27
Personal base. 03:31:31
Personal days. Personal days don't get paid out if you don't use them in the year you lose them. 03:31:32
And sick days are grandfathered in so. 03:31:37
Hired after 2019. 03:31:41
You don't get paid out. 03:31:42
And how many days do you get now? 6. 03:31:44
And as Sam alluded to the the paid days off they they do not equate to a dollar cost. 03:31:49
There's no financial impact, no financial impacts. 03:31:55
There's a partial impact. 03:31:59
I'm sorry. 03:32:00
Absolutely, Sir. 03:32:03
You have a ton of employees who felt very slighted when that got taken. 03:32:04
You know and and honestly in the way I I presented this. 03:32:08
To the Commissioners, was the fact that intellectual knowledge? 03:32:12
People. 03:32:15
We are gaining ground significantly in the world of. 03:32:16
Of technology, we've got great IT support in this county. 03:32:20
We're taking advantage of every IT opportunity that we can. 03:32:23
The institutional knowledge that our employees are gaining over this period of time, this is just a relevant with a small relevant 03:32:27
way to say, hey, we do appreciate. 03:32:31
Even though we may not be able to meet the CPR. 03:32:35
Or what have you by putting. 03:32:38
More money in your wallet or on your on your paycheck each payday. 03:32:40
You know this is a means of. 03:32:44
Kind of narrowing the gap a little bit, so. 03:32:46
Again. 03:32:49
I don't want to take a lot of time, but this is just some foundational discussions that. 03:32:50
I wanted to layout today so that we can continue in these discussions as we move forward. This wouldn't take impact until January 03:32:54
1 of 2027. 03:32:58
You know. 03:33:02
We have time and this doesn't have to be adopted in the budget. 03:33:03
It's just part of the foundational. 03:33:07
Discussions that. 03:33:09
I wanted to bring to you as a council especially haven't had the conversation with the commissioners at this point. 03:33:10
Hey Cortana, so you do have in your in the commissioner budget that's pulled up on your screen right now that deferred offline? 03:33:17
Would support the increase that Stanley and I both just mentioned and then outside of that. 03:33:24
Obviously this is not something that's voted on or decided at today's meeting, but it is going to be a subject matter as a joint 03:33:31
meeting, at least the four minute days will be. 03:33:35
This is something that. 03:33:40
Commissioners are willing. 03:33:42
To adjust to benefits if the Council is willing to fund it so. 03:33:44
Something for you all to consider as we move towards budget adoptions in October. 03:33:50
OK. 03:33:54
Thank you. 03:33:56
All right, the county general commissioner budget oh 68. 03:33:58
Again, this this budget was comprised of Diana working with a lot of the county benefit annualized numbers. 03:34:01
I worked independently on the commissioners. 03:34:08
Smaller components I guess like a better way to say it. 03:34:12
One of the major changes in OH 68 was. 03:34:15
If you recall, two years ago the commissioners did not take an increase in their salary. 03:34:19
For whatever reason, they was blessed, they all approved. But what that does it? 03:34:26
If I can speak to that is in fact. 03:34:30
It ties our hands to reaching out, searching for quality candidates to run for commissioner positions. 03:34:32
So what I worked with Michelle we. 03:34:38
Michelle has spent endless hours updating. 03:34:42
The salary study from back in 2021 I believe it was. 03:34:45
Also incorporating a lot of 2026 data. 03:34:50
To find average salaries based on the big book that I think most of you have already seen. 03:34:54
Average salary for commissioners is in the range of. 03:34:59
334 and 36,000. 03:35:03
Dollars. So we have incorporated a slight increase to bring the commissioners up to right around that average salary. 03:35:07
I think it resulted in approximately a $30,000 increase. So the commissioner salary line, it's broken down the the. 03:35:15
The president is 38, five vice presidents, 37 in the remaining commissioners AT365, which breaks it down to the 112. 03:35:22
I'm sorry, about 6 or $7000 raise. 03:35:32
Yeah, potentially, yes. And that two years ago the Council didn't take a raise either. 03:35:35
No, I didn't. I didn't. I'm not fighting for your race. I didn't know. 03:35:41
It was dude, dude. I think because of some budget issues. 03:35:46
That they decide not to do. 03:35:49
I wasn't there two years ago. 03:35:51
He says we can't get. 03:35:52
Get good candidates. But we got a doctor, a firefighter. I'm not saying we can. 03:35:54
I said why would we want to tie the hands of future obligations? 03:35:59
Again, that that was the justification why I put it in again just well, I mean. 03:36:03
You can look at the book and. 03:36:08
Council is pretty much. 03:36:11
Yeah, right, right there and. 03:36:13
And they are, and I mean. 03:36:17
If we're trying to get other people there. 03:36:22
Then, well, I understand that, but also I can't take. 03:36:25
Account of the other county employees only getting 3% raise and they're getting this big jump. 03:36:30
Just like I did when the other ones had to get caught up. 03:36:36
I mean, I just think it's, it's a bad look. 03:36:39
We should, we should probably not do that. I mean, everybody should get. 03:36:42
Across the board. 03:36:47
Here we are again talking about. 03:36:49
Well. 03:36:52
I don't disagree, but I think. 03:36:55
Other employees are within the ranges of. 03:36:57
Where the salary studies put them and when you add. 03:37:02
They're full time employees, the changes we've made. 03:37:05
And the colas that we've added, I think we're we're still within the ranges. 03:37:08
Text I think Michelles here. 03:37:16
The majority of employees within the county, are they still within the? 03:37:21
Stop the updated salary ranges. Yeah, So what happened was the salary study goes down in 2022? 03:37:26
And then the Council approved Colas 3% one year, 2% the next and 3% the following year. So what I did was I took the 2022 data and 03:37:34
I added the 3% to the 2%. 03:37:41
And then the 3%. 03:37:49
Not that that really brings it current in the market value, but it does bring it current with what we've done here locally. 03:37:51
So. 03:38:00
So the majority are within the range of the star are a few exceptions of people who are outside the range. 03:38:01
So it just brings relevance. 03:38:11
Just some relevance, that's all. I mean, again, I don't want to bring anything to you that's not reasonable. 03:38:13
And Michelle's hard work and identifying that. 03:38:17
It appeared reasonable. You look at the. 03:38:20
The study from the Big Book and through AIC that's offered on salaries. 03:38:22
Reasonable. That's all. 03:38:26
I think it's reasonable, but I don't know about the time, you know? 03:38:27
Commissioners did explain that to me. They're like, should you or should you not? We don't want to be outside and engaging a 03:38:32
timeline this issue, but it's like, well. 03:38:36
Again, establishing baseline conversation. 03:38:41
So I appreciate you allowing me to bring it to you and just to have these conversations. 03:38:43
OK. Thank you. 03:38:51
I don't know if there's anything else I know 68. 03:38:54
This point. 03:38:57
Yeah, I don't think so. 03:39:01
You had a chance to review this budget. 03:39:03
Is the all insurance a good? 03:39:08
Oh yeah, all insurance. 03:39:10
All the insurance obviously I'm on the agenda tonight for additional 300,000 for the all insurance. 03:39:14
The buildings, facility, the vehicles, I mean everything that we own, it comes at a cost. 03:39:19
So the 300,000 I added to the. 03:39:27
900 that we currently have brings us about to the 1.2. 03:39:30
I spoke to Calista Smith to try to get an estimate for 2027 and they said a three percent is normal. 03:39:34
But I've already submitted this budget at 12. Why I went 1,250,000 so. 03:39:40
We're going to try to make it work, you know, we'll find the money where we can. And if I have to come to you mid part of next 03:39:46
year, latter part of next year, then. 03:39:50
Then I will, but we're looking. 03:39:55
Especially if what's happening Wikipedia and. 03:39:58
Yeah, the, you know the. 03:40:02
That, that quarter of a million right above that is what pays for our juveniles, that it's identified as medical services. But as 03:40:04
you know, that's the old inmate. 03:40:08
Care of inmate and patients, which is the old juvenile. 03:40:12
Detention. So we paid almost $300,000 to Clark County for their juvenile housing. 03:40:15
To date, which is something I share with. 03:40:21
Magistrate, flag again and Darius. 03:40:24
When they were leaving. So it brings some. 03:40:27
Significance to his request. 03:40:29
If we can keep fewer and fewer. 03:40:32
Juveniles from going into the detention care potentially. 03:40:35
Is a. 03:40:39
Very significant cost savings. That's on the table for Floyd County as well, so. 03:40:40
Yeah. 03:40:47
Well, I. 03:40:53
Why they're up? 03:40:56
And this year you had. 03:40:58
15140. 03:41:00
And you've always spent money. 03:41:04
Yeah. 03:41:13
What's up? Yeah. 03:41:14
Neil I know. I'm not sure I thought that. 03:41:18
Yeah, I think it was. 03:41:24
So let me see. Hang on a second. 03:41:27
For two of them I need to dictate to. 03:41:29
Yeah, but let's. 03:41:40
I certainly can conceive bringing that down to the 1:50-ish mark 15116. 03:41:41
So then can we go back to the juvenile detention if. 03:41:50
In 2025 we spent 300,000. Year to date we're at about 200,000. 03:41:53
Well, we're it's actually this morning was right at 300. I remember looking right today and as far as as of today 193, OK. 03:41:59
So. 03:42:10
But that was July's bill. I think it's PIT that hit so. 03:42:11
So is the 250 a realistic number? Yes. 03:42:14
It would have spent more than that in the past two years. What? 03:42:20
Yeah, they just, they just. 03:42:24
We just paid July if I remember I so we've still got August, September, October and November. 03:42:25
And we're we're adding a juvenile. 03:42:32
Community corrections to. 03:42:34
Try to. 03:42:36
Keep some of this out that have been moved out of the center. 03:42:38
Recently as well. So our cost to the center is going down as we speak and support judgment I spoke to earlier all right, if we're 03:42:42
all comfortable with that. So I mean we're sitting here right now and we only got. 03:42:48
We'll know about October 3rd if it's going to get funded. 03:42:57
Which just means I get to spend time with you on Tuesday evenings next year, you know? 03:43:00
I enjoy it, hopefully you do too so. 03:43:05
Anyway, any other questions on? 03:43:09
Yeah, can I ask about the? 03:43:14
That's probably not the right place, but I'm looking at the jail utilities. 03:43:17
I know there was some conversation on Friday about maintenance for the jail. 03:43:22
Yeah. 03:43:27
Yeah. So if you remember the old building authority, they were in an interlocal agreement with the commissioners who handles what 03:43:29
expenses to the. 03:43:33
Through the jail facilities. 03:43:38
There has been previous discussions between Sheriff Bush and the commissioners regarding. 03:43:40
Since there is no more building authority, where does the line get drawn? What's going on? 03:43:46
So if I understand correctly in conversation with Sheriff that they're withdrawing their request for maintenance monies? 03:43:51
Out of the jail, they'd find to help meet the obligation of the jail that distribution. 03:43:58
Which the Commissioners have agreed to assume a little bit more of the responsibilities for. 03:44:02
Jail maintenance. 03:44:08
That means is there's also an increase in the number of utilities that are being. 03:44:09
Addressed uh. 03:44:15
I needed so. 03:44:16
Part of that. 03:44:19
Honestly, part of that. 03:44:21
Request to bump this portion of. 03:44:22
Is an offset to the error request in the utilities line because we've got. 03:44:25
Chase Tower. 03:44:29
Your grant line chase facility as long as as well as the other facilities that utilities is getting pushed. 03:44:30
And has pretty much maxed out together funds and this is the only Ave. where we can appropriately identify. 03:44:38
The charges? 03:44:45
Associated to the jail utility functions. 03:44:46
That we can. 03:44:49
Significantly support by the other portion of it with the YEAH Fund. 03:44:51
We need to get out of Pineview ASAP. Like. 03:44:56
Yesterday. 03:45:00
They're working. They're working on it, they're working on it. 03:45:01
That's what we know. 03:45:04
Yeah, we took 44,000 out for. 03:45:06
Jail maintenance. 03:45:09
Parts yes, out of the shares, two extra buildings and. 03:45:10
Yeah, then we had last year. 03:45:16
Yeah, More insurance, more utilities, more maintenance. More, more, more and more. Thank you. 03:45:18
Yes. 03:45:24
And I think they're, I think they're really close to being on track, maybe offloading. 03:45:25
To the buildings, right? I think that'd be a great conversation at the joint council, a joint meeting. 03:45:29
To have what? What they're offloading? What? 03:45:35
I think they're on track. 03:45:38
Seeing you from outside looking in as they slowly consolidate. 03:45:41
They're hoping to be able to offer those. 03:45:46
I'm still right and find you. 03:45:49
So that would be worse. 03:45:59
That's a whole movie. 03:46:05
Come on man, no offense, it's Day's favorite building. Don't be talking about it like that. 03:46:07
That building was built when men were men say that. 03:46:14
Thank you, Sir. Maintenance on that really didn't you? 03:46:19
All right. 03:46:23
Umm, Planning Commission. 03:46:25
So there's a $25,000 increase, salaries for the most part and training. 03:46:28
Went off a couple, $1000. 03:46:36
Mr. Mostly just salaries and then a couple of supplies. 03:46:39
Yeah. 03:46:46
Yeah, that's been about it. 03:46:48
Any questions on that? 03:46:50
Note. 03:46:55
It so. 03:46:59
It the salary increase based on the 3% and then the one request for contractual services of 50,000. 03:47:02
As you know, I think the council is committed $500,000 to buying a host of. 03:47:09
Updated computers. 03:47:16
In talking with our. 03:47:18
Well overmanned staff of two. 03:47:21
Who has to maintain 7 facilities? 67 facilities? 03:47:24
The request in conversation with Gary was can we get some help? 03:47:29
Getting some of these PCs rolled out and this is a contractual service. 03:47:33
Requests so that we could potentially engage in a contract with an intern. 03:47:38
Bring them on board. 03:47:43
They obviously had to be vetted for confidential information, as all contracts are. 03:47:45
But we need a rollout plan. 03:47:50
And. 03:47:53
Well, Gary having to fight the IT upgrades necessary to get the health department on board. 03:47:54
Chase Tower with the 4th Logan ready to go. Maintain. 03:48:02
Some 2 remote sites that are rarely antiquated. 03:48:06
It was just a request for help. 03:48:10
And bringing it to you and say, hey, one of our best options, let's put this person under contract to get Gary some help. 03:48:12
Is an intern really the best way to go for something like that? 03:48:20
I talked to Gary. 03:48:23
I think. 03:48:25
That's what we're we're trying to figure it out. 03:48:29
Me and Stan were working on it and. 03:48:32
We just wanted to approach the idea. 03:48:34
To get somebody in to help us. 03:48:36
Typically I do take the free help that I can get from Prosser. 03:48:39
We ticket students every once in a while. 03:48:43
Gary's on the board for Prosper anyway, so he actually engages with some of those folks. 03:48:46
I just can't. 03:48:50
Think about governmental security and things like that. Yeah. Yeah, they won't. 03:48:51
We're going to keep them out of that stuff. They should be in. 03:48:55
Don't be setting up computers. Yeah, basic stuff. 03:48:59
Yeah, I mean, Diane, I think exposed the fact that there's some very talented people out there. 03:49:05
A niche when he was here just with helping them consolidate for the scan. 03:49:11
The gentleman was very talented guy and he was being underutilized in the county and. 03:49:15
You know, I have no doubt that. 03:49:20
Diana and Gary's help that we'll find some talented folks who. 03:49:22
Are on target to help us roll this program out and get things taken care of. 03:49:26
Yeah, I agree. 03:49:32
Oh yeah. 03:49:39
Exactly, Yeah. 03:49:42
Yeah, that's really the word. That's yeah, that's that's the key, I think that. 03:49:47
$0.90, I think I can contract an intern contract is the way to go because then you're saving on on payroll. 03:49:53
Taxes and and any other benefits that might be available to a part-time or a full time hiring and that way that you have them for 03:49:59
the length of time that Gary and Todd need them. 03:50:04
So it's not adding a full time position to the county or even part time position. It's just. 03:50:09
Contracted Internet comes in and it works for the length of time that our IT department needs their help. 03:50:15
Jerry, where are you? 03:50:20
Where are you with the total half a million? 03:50:23
We've got 170. 03:50:26
Five and I've got a 5 PCs and I'm having a hard time juggling the fact of the increase on all the equipment. 03:50:30
Because of AI right now. 03:50:36
So I've been kind of waiting in the water. 03:50:37
I keep checking the prices, but we're going to pull the trigger before the end of the year anyway, so. 03:50:40
In the year score of a trigger date for Gary, obviously things take significant jump, yeah. 03:50:44
The trigger of January 1st automatically. 03:50:49
Trigger SO. 03:50:52
Maybe get some Christmas sales. 03:50:53
And also then I gotta get invoiced. 03:50:56
Then I'll be bugged. Well, that's put on my credit card. That's where I'm going is at the end of the day, do you think? 03:50:59
Be able to stay within a 500. 03:51:04
And Garry's committed that we we do have a little bit of the funds remaining in the. 03:51:08
The county general data processing fund or the. 03:51:13
I guess the software support fund, if need be, we can dip into back into that. We're trying to stay away from it if we can. 03:51:16
Because of the commitment from the Gold Bond monies. But if we run across where? 03:51:23
We're not going to come back and ask for more Gold Bond money. Our commitment is to find it internally. 03:51:27
So. 03:51:31
Thank you. 03:51:33
Sir, just mumbling under my breath. 03:51:37
So, Gary, you're never going to unload a van or cable or nothing? 03:51:41
As long as you live again. 03:51:45
Not if we can help it. Gary's talents are unload computers and. 03:51:46
Son, go get that, unload that van, take out the third floor. No, we want never going to do that again. We want Gary plugging wires 03:51:51
in and setting folks up. We don't want Gary carrying the equipment. I know I'll ramble, but I was talking. I was talking my 03:51:55
grandson. 03:51:59
I know I ramble, but I was talking to my grandson yesterday and he's a lineman for Duke Energy. 03:52:03
And they talked about, we talked about Polecom and he goes. 03:52:09
Not me no more. 03:52:14
When you. 03:52:17
Not Gary no more. He's tearing stuff around. Is that instead institutional knowledge you have to pay? 03:52:18
It comes at a cost. 03:52:23
Yeah, it should be institutions. 03:52:28
Anyway, also in that IT budget I split out the computer supplies and the software. 03:52:31
Gary and I had a pretty in-depth conversation about. 03:52:37
What is our software obligations moving into 27 and what is our hardware needs and? 03:52:41
We want them split out to more accurately reflect. 03:52:48
What we're doing with our IT equipment, so. 03:52:52
It gives us a little bit better indication. 03:52:56
Not to get way off track here, but is there ever an opportunity to consolidate those services across all departments? 03:52:58
Meaning. Meaning. 03:53:05
You've got the prosecutor who has his own software, the public defender. You've got the sheriff's got its own. Is there, is there 03:53:06
any? 03:53:10
Economies of scale by doing it all through you for the entire. 03:53:15
So we kind of are that way. 03:53:20
We all have a combined, you know. 03:53:22
We run. 03:53:24
The network we run the. 03:53:25
Identity. 03:53:27
A piece of it like logging into the machine. All that it's just these spin offs of. 03:53:29
Like the public vendor has his. 03:53:33
Applications cloud based. 03:53:35
I don't know how you all want to. 03:53:38
Lay that out in the budget, right? Some counties put it all in the IT, like wow for instance. 03:53:40
It budget and that's. 03:53:45
A million. 03:53:48
It's a lot and that's fine if you're, if you're standing there telling me that you believe across every department, you're looking 03:53:52
at it saying that we're getting the best economy of scale. 03:53:57
Yeah, no, that's what I try to get my hands on all of it as possible, if possible. 03:54:02
You may see me like. 03:54:07
Throw my hand. I may not know who was somebody brought up. 03:54:09
Buying Trish. 03:54:12
So they brought it by another. I try to get my teeth and all of it if possible because it's kind of. 03:54:13
Everybody gets their ideas. 03:54:18
But we gotta keep it here, keep it simple stupid is when I try to do too. So so who shirts for me is 2 my new computer today and 03:54:20
we we said it was OK for them to buy a new computer that would be community corrections for the brand new position, which is a 03:54:25
computer that wasn't factored into the computer revamp. 03:54:30
And so. 03:54:36
That's the other thing is people child support. 03:54:38
They get their special money. 03:54:40
So we try, we have to utilize it all comes through me. 03:54:42
Besides Sheriff's Department. 03:54:45
It all comes through me. The Commissioners did a resolution. 03:54:47
Yeah, we won't. We won't let him put it on the network, set it up and everything. They go out and buy it. We. 03:54:51
Say go away, we can't use it. 03:54:56
Do the security of it. 03:54:59
That we don't. None of that, none of those kind of electronics they bought individuals, They might be paid for individually out of 03:55:01
somebody's budget, but they get bought through dairy. 03:55:04
Yeah, Gary's got to put eyes on this stuff, which is why I brought up the. 03:55:08
Trish's earlier today, that's the first that we had heard about it. 03:55:12
It's like. 03:55:16
We need to, we need to have discussions. We need to talk about these things. If somebody wants to buy a new program, that's great. 03:55:17
But this is the guy they should be having a conversation with. You know, we're all trying to. 03:55:23
Buy into this thing together and Gary may be. 03:55:27
He may have the knowledge of better. 03:55:29
Greater programs, I don't know, I mean. 03:55:32
I think that you alluded to was a great program. You've seen it displayed possibly. 03:55:34
It might be the best out there, but I think until we bring Gary in to vet this thing. 03:55:39
You know it it. 03:55:43
It's it's not got the county stamp on it and I think that's one thing that we need to all start doing. 03:55:44
And to share that with all of our department heads is we all got to talk together. 03:55:50
I mean because if. 03:55:53
If Sydney's got some tools that can. 03:55:54
Move the health department, then guess who's going to be moving the health department? It's going to be Cindy and Sydney, right? 03:55:57
So. 03:56:00
So the two IT guys work for the Sheriff's Department. They don't help. 03:56:02
They can't help you set up or anything like that. 03:56:06
So kind of I do try to utilize them like we've got a joint phone system. 03:56:08
They're on our phone system. 03:56:13
And then? 03:56:15
We're we're, we try to work together and they've covered us once in the past. Like there was a time when me and Todd were both. 03:56:16
Rebecca fly forth. 03:56:23
Do you feel maybe or something? 03:56:25
But uh. 03:56:26
That are around either way we. 03:56:26
I try to utilize them, you know, they know where. 03:56:29
I keep stuff. 03:56:32
If something happens so. 03:56:33
On our side, I try to utilize if possible. 03:56:37
And if I may say, I've talked to Sheriff several times about. 03:56:40
Working in a partnership relationships, right? 03:56:45
Our first. 03:56:48
Step was this maintenance issue, right? I mean, yeah, his own maintenance guy is on maintenance stuff. 03:56:49
All that went away with the building authorities so. 03:56:55
Lot of that fell back towards dining, you know, and now we finally are on one maintenance program. 03:56:58
Just one program. 03:57:03
They just have a maintenance man. He still has a maintenance guy, which. 03:57:06
Wait, alright, so in full transparency. 03:57:09
For us, for Donnie to bring him on board, the sheriff's not willing to relinquish that position because they can pull him where 03:57:14
they need him. 03:57:17
I don't fault the sheriff for that, but his salary is here. 03:57:21
Our guys are here. We we brought him on board. We've got a salary disparity that we're going to have to address through the 03:57:24
council here. I'm not right. You're a part of that. 03:57:28
I I don't know what you're talking about. I don't remember that, but if I was, I'll trust you that you wouldn't mislead me so. 03:57:32
It's only been a year, Sam, That's true. 03:57:39
Yeah, umm. 03:57:43
All right. 03:57:44
Anything else for Gary? I don't know. I'd like to see him go to sit down for more times. 03:57:47
He's getting his workout. 03:57:53
He steps in. 03:57:54
We good weights and measures. 03:57:57
Pretty straightforward. Steve Ingram is now under Nick Creevy. 03:58:00
So you have any questions about weights and measures, we can let Nick speak to that as well, but. 03:58:04
Nick eats a pretty good eye on him. Some of our commissioners hadn't even met Steven so. 03:58:09
We can no longer say that. 03:58:15
So he did ask for some. 03:58:16
I think a little bit of. 03:58:18
Help with some of the office supplies a couple of odd and in things. 03:58:20
It's probably less than what? 03:58:24
$2500 I believe it is. So the salary is just a 3% bump. 03:58:26
OK, good. 03:58:33
It's. 03:58:39
So I wish to see. 03:58:41
Laurice is not here. I don't know if you've met Laurice Howe yet. 03:58:43
He has been a diamond in the rough for us. 03:58:46
He has retired Louisville Metro. 03:58:49
There we go again, Sam. Thank you. 03:58:52
Louisville He's. 03:58:54
Quite the asset to Floyd County. He's. 03:58:57
Operating with the intention of at some point trying to sustain the 401 Three Fund. 03:58:59
With the revenue generated. 03:59:05
To meet operational. 03:59:07
Slush, actually, so we don't need that money. 03:59:09
But we don't, we do need the salaries and what the request is. He's gone from 15 part-time people, which was here. 03:59:12
Several years ago under the solid waste district, down to 7 part-time people. 03:59:20
But he needs a full time person. 03:59:24
One full time person that. 03:59:26
The clerk has agreed to go or the office manager has agreed to go to four days a week, 4 hours a day. 03:59:29
Loris is right now the only full time person, but we run the annex full-time Monday through Saturday and. 03:59:36
We run. 03:59:43
Galena on Wednesdays full day. 03:59:45
He needs a full time person and the request is only in that other employees line 1 full time position. 03:59:48
Is Alina gonna go away? 03:59:54
No, not that I'm aware of at this point. 03:59:56
I know the library. 03:59:58
And the library didn't. 04:00:01
I'm not aware that it's going to go away yet, OK? 04:00:05
Yeah. 04:00:08
And remember when you're looking at the budget, this the budget. 04:00:11
For 26 was set on a three quarter year budget because we took them over in March, so 27 is a full time. 04:00:15
A full year budget with one request for a full time position. 04:00:22
OK. 04:00:25
How many other employees do they have of the part time employees? You said when seven part time. So we're what his intention was, 04:00:27
was to convert 1 of the part time to a full time. So it'd be 6 part time, 1 full time Larise and then Kerry who's the office 04:00:32
manager. So what was the full time employee be? 04:00:37
Do you remember Michelle? What was Maurice's? It was right at $20.00 an hour, $20 and some change if I remember right. 04:00:43
Yeah, it's it's right at. 04:00:52
$20.00 an hour. I think the part time folks are making 1675. 04:00:54
I'm sorry. 04:01:00
You're making $16.00 an hour. There's a few that are making 17 because they're operating a bail or they're doing a transport work, 04:01:02
but most make $16.00 an hour. 04:01:08
So the new full time employee will have perf and. 04:01:14
All the other benefits associated with full-time employment. 04:01:17
Well, from what I can see talking about institutional knowledge, that's still less of what we've been known to pay for. 04:01:23
Salt waste 100% and I. 04:01:28
Half of what we normally pay. 04:01:32
Like what we've been paying over the last 10 years I've been here, right, Denise? 04:01:34
Yeah, it's, well, it's been over 400. 04:01:39
We only gave them 220 and. 04:01:42
They got the other. 04:01:46
I don't know. I think it was somewhere between 2:50 and 300 and they. 04:01:48
Produce the rest of Iraq it was 450 that was set in the edge of at a budget normally. 04:01:55
To operate. 04:02:00
No, they got their 450 plus their revenue. 04:02:05
OK, OK. 04:02:08
If I recall that you're correct, Sir, Yeah. 04:02:09
Yeah, yeah. 04:02:11
OK. 04:02:17
Edit budgets. 04:02:20
The added budget. 04:02:26
Let's see. 04:02:28
So there's several things with the budget. So when the initial budget went out. 04:02:29
Edit Was the request that I submitted to level 1 exceeded what the forecasted revenues were going to be, so we started scaling 04:02:35
back. 04:02:39
Scaling back where I can. 04:02:44
One of the things that came out was. 04:02:47
The elections. 04:02:50
The 250,000 for the elections. 04:02:52
Leave. Double check. Yep. 04:02:54
That came out. 04:02:57
Again, trying to scale it back is. 04:03:00
The best I could. 04:03:02
Let's see. 04:03:04
Where'd you put it? 04:03:10
The right now it's nowhere. 04:03:12
I don't know where to put it. 04:03:14
I'm kind of looking to you for some guidance possibly. 04:03:16
And what is that? Tell me what that is. It's just it's the money that is committed for the county elections. 04:03:19
They use the elect. The clerk has submitted a request to the commissioners for monies. 04:03:26
In the past it seemed the best of my knowledge it was like 199,000 and. 04:03:32
I think two years ago they asked for 2:50. 04:03:36
Fractal days, was it? Yeah, the the voting machines and a few other contracts changed. Yeah, that's correct. They were able, 04:03:40
that's why they had to ask for the increase 250. 04:03:45
That's 2,000,000 for $250,000. 04:03:51
No. 04:03:54
It's all it covers. 04:03:55
The contracts that help run the election, so the county initiate contract. 04:03:58
Yeah, it's the machines and things like that. 04:04:03
Yeah, the the ballot counting machines and all, all of the components that were there. 04:04:07
So anyway. 04:04:13
Yeah, I'd love to. Same with salt. I had, I did take salt out. 04:04:17
Because again, I'm trying to scale this back and. 04:04:22
We can talk to Sydney, but we're looking at exploring the opportunity to potentially grow. 04:04:25
Since we're, I think it's an MS-4 location here in Floyd County where we're under environmental scrutiny. 04:04:32
Going to a. 04:04:38
Purely liquid system to treat our roads during the winter months. 04:04:40
Without having to utilize thought. But again, the initial outlay is going to be something commissioners may have to decide if they 04:04:45
want to. 04:04:48
Expend some capital monies for this project, but again. 04:04:53
Right now I don't have a funding source for salt. Is that. 04:04:58
How much is that? Well, 400,000, I don't know. Have we ever found? We were found in agreement. 04:05:03
The the, the the state was looking for some vendor, I believe, to enter into an obligation because they asked us how much we 04:05:09
wanted. 04:05:14
We told them and then they said, well, we don't know if we can get it or not at this point. 04:05:19
So typically we've spent about 425,000 years. 04:05:22
Right now that's for 4000 tons. This year we backed it off to 3500 tons. 04:05:27
Because we got a little left. 04:05:32
And they came to us about two months ago and said, yeah, I'm getting that. 04:05:34
So right now we're fighting just to find salt. 04:05:39
And what he's talking about with changing up. I've discussed this with Mr. Short. 04:05:42
We're going to we're going to go into an experimental mode this winter. 04:05:47
And doing some liquid treating. 04:05:50
Instead of granular salt. 04:05:52
And the reason being? 04:05:53
If it will work and they. 04:05:55
Everything I'm reading about it, everybody's telling me about it, will it works up more? 04:05:58
Works up north and workout South. 04:06:02
It cuts your salt. 04:06:04
Uses by 60%. 04:06:06
Which saw go somewhere and it goes into our creeks and streams, which filters all of our waterway systems so. 04:06:07
And we are an MS-4 county. 04:06:13
Which again puts us on the scrutiny of IDM and. 04:06:15
Several other agencies. 04:06:19
Eventually. 04:06:20
And I know this is coming because it's in Wisconsin right now. 04:06:22
They're going to go to legislation that's going to make us. 04:06:25
Account for every bit of salt we use, every bit of brine that we use. 04:06:29
So eventually if we have to go to the all wet system. 04:06:33
Again, it will cut our solution by 60%. What's the liquid that you get? 04:06:38
It's a system. 04:06:43
It still uses salt and just cut your salt uses by 60%. 04:06:45
So if we got 425,000 by 60%. 04:06:48
A substantial site because it worked better than the bean juice or whatever I don't know yet. Juice is out. 04:06:52
People are putting using that. 04:06:58
The studies I'm looking at are strictly A saltwater brine. 04:07:01
And they're saying it works. 04:07:04
And we're going to attempt it this one or won't pick 2 locations. 04:07:06
We have our first snow. 04:07:09
Event and we're going to attempt it and see how it works. 04:07:11
Have you tried soaking the chicken in it first and then putting it on the grill? 04:07:14
Before we put in the truck, we do that with the way we cook. For the guys that are being there late at night, that's what they 04:07:18
eat. 04:07:20
They don't know that yet. So you're going to brine the roads before the event, which we always, Brian, before the event, we always 04:07:23
bring studies from some. 04:07:29
Engineering school says that that. 04:07:34
Brian after the event works just. 04:07:37
Little man, like now we put salt down when we plow roads. 04:07:41
Right, we always retreat with Brian, always somewhere in steeper hills. 04:07:44
Fairview knowledge, for instance, one knowledge, we will treat it with granular. 04:07:50
Part of the event just to get a head up. 04:07:54
This time out we're gonna try and pick out two locations. Instead of putting granule salt down, we're strictly going to use a 04:07:57
brine system. 04:08:01
Before, during and after, during and after and see if it works. 04:08:04
Because if it works again, it will cut our. 04:08:08
Uses by 60%. 04:08:11
But them telling me it works and it works. 04:08:13
That don't jab now I got a track. 04:08:16
Oh yeah, I know about that. We'll make sure it's going to work. 04:08:19
Now there will still be some places will grain of salt. 04:08:22
I eat very few knobs. One knob. 04:08:25
Far as the because of the steepness of the one, it actually gives a little bit of attraction effect too. 04:08:27
Believe it or not, salt doesn't work until it's wet. 04:08:34
It has no effect, so it gets moisture. 04:08:38
Now some of the counties, such as Harrison Counties, went to a. 04:08:41
A wet system that actually sprays their salt as they're putting it down. 04:08:45
And I haven't got to talk to them. See how well that works? 04:08:49
But it's actually. 04:08:52
Activating the salt before their Instagram. 04:08:54
So these are just some of the things we're. 04:08:57
We're checking out to try to save. 04:09:00
Money in the future and to get ahead of this legislation. 04:09:01
If the legislation goes through there and moves its way South. 04:09:05
To what we end up in that legislation, the equipment we need to go through an all wet system. 04:09:09
Will triple the cost. 04:09:14
If it works. 04:09:16
That's a capital expense, right? 04:09:17
If it works. 04:09:21
This year and we feel it does work. 04:09:23
Then we will be coming back to ask, say we need to move forward with this. 04:09:26
Before those increases. 04:09:30
To stand going back to the whole salt thing, I mean, weren't we covering a lot of that out of gas tax money? 04:09:33
No, not that I'm aware of. I guess where I'm going with that is, is what are we doing with? 04:09:39
Shortfall from. 04:09:45
The suspension of gas. So that's a good question. So as of right now, the governor has in his slush fund. 04:09:47
Made-up that shortfall each and every month moving forward. 04:09:53
Well, what what concerns me is when we hit, when we hit December. 04:09:57
You know, uh. 04:10:01
We don't get our December distribution if we don't get that shortfall makeup. 04:10:02
76 is going to be a very, very tight. 04:10:08
1176 the unrestricted so. 04:10:11
If that. 04:10:13
Short if that makeup doesn't hit until after the first year, so. 04:10:14
Hoping he sticks to his current pattern. 04:10:18
And that is that he has used the sludge fund to make up the shortfall in. 04:10:21
6973 and 76 so start scratching your head about how. 04:10:26
Well, he's alluded to 15,000,000 plus or maybe it's a it might even be bigger than I forget. The dog came out. I don't know if you 04:10:31
had seen it, but. 04:10:36
You know it. 04:10:40
Yeah, yeah. 04:10:42
It doesn't proceed in like right now. 04:10:45
We're just trying to make sure that we're on target to hit in the year so. 04:10:49
Paying very close attention to the account. 04:10:52
Well, I mean, I just, I look at this fund and I look at. 04:10:54
What you've done and what we're trying to accomplish, and I'm like, these are big chunks. I'm not everything. 04:10:58
Yes, they are. 04:11:02
We can't just write off. 04:11:04
Now I do want to give just point out what Stanley did and he did an amazing job of it. So we came to an understanding of the 04:11:06
meeting of budget season that we were going to do that first round budget what? 04:11:11
What we really want to happen in those funds. 04:11:17
And then once they certified, estimates and estimates for DHLRS came out. 04:11:19
We would adjust down to the actual. 04:11:23
Expected income for those funds without factoring in potential leftover at the end of this year because of everything that's 04:11:26
happening at a state level. 04:11:31
We didn't want to factor in. 04:11:36
Any access or LRS or edit because we don't know what it's going to look like at the end of this year. So the budgets that you're 04:11:38
seeing for next year. 04:11:42
Are geared very specifically to their income from the next year. There is no carryover that is budgeted in these. 04:11:46
He's done an excellent job that just to make sure that at least the budget we're adopting for next year, can we sustain that next 04:11:53
year's income. 04:11:57
Because we don't know what's gonna happen in those months by the end of this year. 04:12:01
But we're still off by what I have. 04:12:06
Almost 1,000,000 actually in the yeah. 04:12:08
Oh, you mean currently the bottom line? 04:12:12
To project OH. 04:12:14
Where we've had to cut out. 04:12:15
So we have. 04:12:19
$650,000 worth of expenses that we know we're going to incur next year. 04:12:21
They just don't have a home. Yeah, yeah. 04:12:28
And if we're really lucky? 04:12:32
Could potentially exist that it will have some money left in the weekend this year and we appropriate. 04:12:34
Next year. 04:12:39
But we don't. We don't have that guarantee. And it's also widely budgeted. 04:12:40
Very specific to the income that's coming. 04:12:45
So that. 04:12:56
Which leads to the next. 04:12:58
Little question so. 04:12:59
With our Rd. department Teamsters group. 04:13:01
What we currently have. 04:13:04
Their salaries are commingled between storm water, Cambridge added, and MDH unrestricted MBH. 04:13:06
So all the over. 04:13:15
All the overtime is Co mingled in there as well and it drives me crazy. 04:13:16
I just Michelle's tried to talk me off the ledge a few times, but I I find it to be a little. 04:13:20
Unsettling because I want to know what is my overtime dollars, so I've created and then the edit fund. 04:13:25
An overtime line for 75,000. As a start I've worked with Michelle. 04:13:32
As soon as if you guys decide to adopt this budget as presented or with an overtime makeup or a component. 04:13:37
We're going to adjust PM to also identify those through Dinah's office so we can track overtime. 04:13:44
Hate overtime. 04:13:50
Specifically and independently to utilize and give. 04:13:52
Sydney a tool to also. 04:13:56
Evaluate whereas times all going. 04:13:58
He can pretty much reassurely tell me that. 04:14:00
In the overtime use currently is during major assault events or major weather events. 04:14:03
He's got a great staff, they do what they need to do. They're obviously very short handed but. 04:14:08
What I'd like to ask is, is there a way to relocate to 75,000 in the edit fund, potentially to a public safety fund? 04:14:14
I know that the public safety fund is being taxed. 04:14:22
Tremendously based on the conversations today. 04:14:25
But I just like to ask if you would at least consider potentially moving that 75,000? 04:14:27
Where's this hand it's? 04:14:34
On your screen. 04:14:37
OK. 04:14:40
Oh, thank you. 04:14:42
So anyway, how could and you said that's overtime for the road department, how can you put that in public safety? 04:14:44
If they're out scraping, I can get a copy of the public safety. 04:14:51
I, I, I haven't reviewed the public safety legislation recently. Yeah, I couldn't tell you, but I've, I've been with you and. 04:14:55
Dan, Danny had asked me to look that over and in there. 04:15:03
I think it's back here, Mike, I can send you a copy of the the statute that clearly indicates it doesn't say Rd. department 04:15:06
personnel, but it says. 04:15:11
Of public safety events. 04:15:15
I forget the exact language. 04:15:18
But I can send you a copy of that with that section highlighted for your evaluation if you like. 04:15:20
Anyway, just just a request, that's why do you want it in there because I'm trying to make sure I have money in that. 04:15:27
Yeah, I see. Yeah. 04:15:33
I was like, you know what? And here's why I can speak with that of confidence. 04:15:36
Is because I know that Sydney, Maine is not going to authorize one hour of overtime unless it's his. 04:15:41
His guys are out there trying to ensure that our roads are safe and free for our residents. 04:15:47
If I thought there was any leeway or any? 04:15:52
Anything malintent I would have a conversation with Sydney, not with you. 04:15:55
But I trust that man implicitly. He is. Let's do the job. Let's do it right. Let's get out there. But. 04:15:59
Well, here's the issue. 04:16:05
We are already short. 04:16:07
And we, we said we're short by 2,000,000, is that right? 04:16:09
Diane, we had this conversation at lunch. 04:16:13
I think it was closer to 1,000,000 amounts here by the time we were not that how much. 04:16:17
We had decided that we were going to take a million out of so. 04:16:23
Interest and put it in there and use whatever was leftover and upward 600 first. 04:16:27
And then? 04:16:34
Move us around. 04:16:35
A million in the public safety. 04:16:38
Right with the conversation. So it's nothing less than something. 04:16:40
And I. 04:16:44
I don't disagree. I mean I and. 04:16:46
There's a lot of problems, I get it. But it's a request, that's all, and it's like I'm gonna isolate overtime regardless of 04:16:49
whether it stays in edit or if it lands in public safety. 04:16:53
I worked with Michelle, will update PM, but we've got to manage this. So you referencing emergency action as defined in IC 1311, I 04:16:58
don't think that I believe that was it. 04:17:03
Yeah. 04:17:09
And again I. 04:17:13
I don't want to belabor the point, but I can send you a copy and it says no money there. Then there's no money there. We're going 04:17:14
to have to find the funding source and that it'll house it. 04:17:18
Purposes of IC 1320. 04:17:23
25 Six any action taken at we're here to see about hazardous materials emergency. 04:17:25
To prevent or minimize. 04:17:31
Health, property or the environment from uncontrolled beliefs of hazardous misery. 04:17:33
Snow is hazardous. 04:17:38
It's all interpretation. 04:17:40
Thanks anyway. Well, the salt could be. 04:17:42
Against the department. 04:17:45
So. 04:17:47
Repairs are main. 04:17:49
Repairs and maintenance. 04:17:52
There's an increase there of 125,000. Again, we're picking up Chase Tower and Grant Line facility and we are having declining 04:17:54
facilities at Pine View and Rice. 04:18:00
As well as the Judicial center, which has some failing components and the jail now which. 04:18:05
Commissioners have obligated with the sheriff to try to maintain as well, so I did ask for a little extra money in the repair 04:18:12
maintenance line. 04:18:15
Donnie is getting his team on board with being able to. 04:18:19
Mitigate any AC unit issues. 04:18:24
One of the certifications are with heating and air heating at HX Stuff. 04:18:28
They're all getting, or Donnie's getting his certifications. Who wants to speak to them? We're going to try to save us some money 04:18:32
where we can, so. 04:18:36
Hopefully we won't spend too much money on the rice or the Pine Leaf Valley if we're going to be selling it shortly, so. 04:18:41
Say it again. Hopefully we won't spend a lot of money with the Rice and the Pine View building if we're going to be selling it. 04:18:47
Well, we don't. We're not going to put long. I can. I can almost assure you we're not going to. 04:18:53
Unless Nick wants to speak, we're not going to put long range. 04:18:58
Investments into these facilities with the back knowledge that we. 04:19:01
Are are going to let these properties? 04:19:05
So that's it. 04:19:09
I have that. I'll let the attorneys workout that it's. 04:19:11
Yeah, I I don't disagree. 04:19:14
You just keep feeding that hamster that's running that elevator across the street. 04:19:16
Yeah, we've got to feed him the other day and he said. 04:19:21
You hear they left the door anyway. 04:19:27
Go ahead. I'm sorry. 04:19:28
That I'm sure I'm asking a rhetorical question. 04:19:30
The Commissioners understand the urgency of. 04:19:35
Like offloading these buildings so that we can. 04:19:39
It's operating cost. 04:19:42
Minimize. I mean we need to offload these buildings, buildings like great conversation for a joint meeting. 04:19:44
MMM. 04:19:54
I mean, honestly, we need to talk about how how we're spending these money. I think it would be the status. 04:19:57
Current status. 04:20:04
Yeah, pan view and rice building. 04:20:06
Again, the utilities is the same, same beast. I don't want to keep beating a dead horse, but. 04:20:10
I see it. 04:20:15
I'm running out of utility money already. 04:20:16
And I'm not sure. 04:20:19
You may have to ask you for some more utility money as a year progressives, but. 04:20:21
I'm down to $17,000 out of a $400,000. Yeah. 04:20:25
What I said right now. 04:20:31
There's always a path, right? 04:20:34
Any other questions on? 04:20:38
I'm sure you see the challenges that. 04:20:40
We're facing the current utility budget. 04:20:43
Is that is the health departments on there right? 04:20:47
Yeah, it is pretty minimal right now. I mean, there's the only. 04:20:50
People out there are the. 04:20:54
Are you talking about the? 04:20:56
Chase, yeah, I mean. 04:20:58
The the construction team is the only ones really utilizing anything there currently. 04:21:01
There were a lot of issues. I'm sure you probably have heard there were like. 04:21:06
I forget how many meters there were out there for gas. 04:21:09
Several electrons are consolidating about floors we have. 04:21:12
Minimal, uh. 04:21:16
We can isolate usage and try to be a little bit more efficient. They're insulating well. 04:21:17
All the things that. 04:21:23
That can be done to ensure that we are in. 04:21:25
Our investment is sustainable. 04:21:27
At a optimal. 04:21:29
Performance level based on the age of the building we're trying to do. 04:21:32
So. 04:21:36
Within the constraints of the budget as well, so. 04:21:37
Good. 04:21:43
Any other OK? 04:21:46
1135. 04:21:49
Don't know if there's any. 04:21:52
Major Issues. 1135. Cambridge. 04:21:54
I don't think I had any notes on here, so unless there was a question I think. 04:21:59
The bond payment I think was one of the only few things that were on there because again, isolating. 04:22:06
Updating the bond schedule and the debt schedule. 04:22:12
The bond was paid from a couple different funds in 26. 04:22:15
And that was a misstep on my part as I was building the debt schedule, so I wanted it isolated. It's a bridge. It's a bridge and 04:22:20
bond fund. 04:22:24
It was done back in. 04:22:28
Oh shoot, I have a the Bond schedule. 04:22:30
Anyway, I have the it's based on a bridge bond. 04:22:34
Yeah, just one location. 04:22:37
Yeah, instead I. 04:22:39
So that's the. 04:22:41
All of our bonds. No, no, no, no. 04:22:42
That's the bridge bond. 04:22:46
That's the. 04:22:47
That's just a bridge one. Yeah. Here's a list of all of our. 04:22:48
Our debt schedules, If you like to, I can send you a copy. 04:22:52
Yeah, I've got 20 sevens updated. 04:22:55
Don't make me cry, Come on. 04:23:01
I'm trying to. 04:23:03
I'm trying to do my duty and I know. 04:23:04
And that all I was trying to do was take the bond schedule for 27, align that with payment locations. 04:23:06
Never knew. 04:23:13
That one. 04:23:15
Let's see. 04:23:18
Because #4. 04:23:20
County bridge improvement bond is. 04:23:25
Payoff date is. 04:23:30
2/1 of 36. 04:23:31
And then 18. 04:23:34
Yeah, no wonder we can't build a building. 04:23:36
Oh yeah, we got a lot of. 04:23:40
Yeah, that's why we were trying to pay off some stuff along the way The. 04:23:41
Thank you up some. 04:23:45
Cat space but. 04:23:47
Curiosity is not in person. 04:23:48
94. 04:23:52
LRS. 04:23:55
All numbers. 04:23:56
Not much change in LRS actually. 04:24:02
Well, if you have any questions about anything. 04:24:07
The increase was the bond payment. The increase was a bond payment, yeah. 04:24:10
Good. And that's the total revenue coming in is 1,000,000. 04:24:17
LR yeah, that's right. At that amount, I think I have the revenue is 1.078. So I'm. 04:24:20
$4000 off SO. 04:24:27
We should have a. 04:24:29
$5000 carryover. 04:24:30
If the deal Jeff will give us. 04:24:34
Grace period. If not, we'll cut 4000 out of it and I'll be back in January and ask for it. 04:24:35
Yeah, I think I'm hoping so. 04:24:42
7073 and 76. 04:24:44
73 the restricted. 76 the. 04:24:49
MVH Unrestricted. 04:24:53
Because our pace rating hasn't changed, it's a split between the revenues. 04:24:55
I don't know if there's anything on there that you have a question about. 04:25:00
The 6020 fund that was created by the commissioners in the past. 04:25:09
Our portion goes to restricted because follow the same rules. 04:25:15
So the payback budget that Stanley assigned to. 04:25:19
The income for the wheel tax. 04:25:24
Was also added into the restrict the restricted and we've also paid for salt out of the wheel. 04:25:26
Nope. 04:25:34
You gotta be, you gotta move other things out of there. 04:25:34
You got a gaming? 04:25:38
And we're working very close with Nick and Sydney trying to identify every opportunity to be able to do that. 04:25:40
And again, this is. 04:25:47
But I don't echo this from the commissioners, but they they feel like the wheel tax was put in place for a reason. That's paving. 04:25:49
And it should clearly identify paving. 04:25:55
Money brought in from the will tax paving, so anything else in? 04:25:58
Well, well, we all agree with that, but if we can't not solve. 04:26:02
And we're working again, working with Nick and and and and Sydney trying to identify any Gray areas and restricted that we may be 04:26:08
able to move some of the 76 monies. 04:26:13
Into to free up money in 76 to pay for the sump. 04:26:18
Potentially. So. Which was the other NBA? The unrestricted? 04:26:21
Can't be used on bridges too. 04:26:25
I'm sorry, can it be used on breakfast paving bridges? 04:26:26
Is it just paving? 04:26:30
Is it just what? What are the restrictions for use? I thought it was it's. 04:26:33
Was it restoration? 04:26:38
Was it construction repair? 04:26:40
So so you can build bridges. 04:26:43
You can build bridges with. 04:26:48
But I think commissioners are committed to using the wheel tax money for pay the. 04:26:51
Well, that's all well and good. I mean, I know. 04:26:55
We got to do, we got to do. We got to do what we got to do. 04:26:58
We all want the road to face too. But do we want? 04:27:04
Are are. 04:27:07
You know, then we want to be able to travel in the snow. 04:27:10
What's the Highway 150? 04:27:16
You got to make Nick her and get his steps into. 04:27:24
That's what Sam calls the hairpin. 04:27:27
That's the intersection project at Highlander. 04:27:29
The the next one that'll. 04:27:34
Be going in. 04:27:36
Probably 2028. 04:27:37
Of course you can. What? Well, the local portion of it, it's federal aid project. So we're at 8020 on that already. 04:27:41
I don't have that one. I think it's a. 04:27:50
The real tax doesn't get held in a fund by itself. I understand that. OK, yeah. 04:27:53
Yeah, the local share of that would be eligible. 04:27:58
Is it 150? 04:28:01
No. 04:28:03
For next year. 04:28:08
So that's probably a placeholder. 04:28:10
Yeah, it may be though, I think. 04:28:14
The construction estimate for that and. 04:28:16
Don't have the figure in front of me, but it's roughly 2 and a half million. 04:28:19
And then we'll have some. 04:28:24
Engineering inspection for that as well, which was probably 4 or 500,000. I'm just saying I understand the local would be 20% more 04:28:26
than I do about how we might be able to use the wheel tax to be able to cover. 04:28:33
Our salt shortfall because we don't have a wet place to do it at right now. 04:28:40
We don't, and we're going to explore every opportunity that we have available to us. 04:28:45
You know, we when we all sit down together, we come up with some pretty outlandish thoughts that we. 04:28:50
The cipher through to find the most appropriate way to make it happen. I mean, do you all have an idea about how to play for the 04:28:56
song? 04:28:59
Yeah, I don't have an idea to pay for a lot of this stuff. 04:29:03
Be quite honest with you, I I hear you. 04:29:08
I'm just being honest. 04:29:14
I I share some of your thoughts, but we'll, we'll find the path I can. I can promise you that that. 04:29:18
I will. We will put our our collective heads together to come up and I'll send you an e-mail and say hey. 04:29:23
This is what we're going to do to mitigate. 04:29:28
The expense for the salt? 04:29:30
Fair enough. 04:29:32
That sounds great. 04:29:33
Now we've just got to figure out what to do about the election. 04:29:35
Yeah, that, that one. 04:29:38
That one's a little bit tough. I'm not sure how to free up beta funds at this point you just yet so. 04:29:40
Also women. I got one other thing in 76 I think. 04:29:46
Oh, we didn't ****. 04:29:51
We couldn't do both of them together and get elements, thank God. 04:29:53
Yeah, 76. 04:29:58
So the truck drivers and laborers, as I stated earlier, I was trying to move the overtime monies into a separate line. 04:30:02
So to bring. 04:30:10
Preempt this conversation. 04:30:12
We the we. 04:30:15
The road department has some new trucks, some new equipment of ACT truck. They've got some. 04:30:16
As in you can give you a list of the equipment that has been purchased here with through the Indiana. 04:30:22
A bond bank that commissioners are fun. We're funding. 04:30:27
We're finding a pathway to pay for all of it. We've got it in place. 04:30:31
We're utilizing our people to the maximum extent of their abilities. 04:30:35
To make our roads as clean and clear and. 04:30:39
Passable as possible. 04:30:43
Meeting all the obligations that are needed for stormwater. Keeping our bridges. 04:30:45
With all of that said, we're getting a greater demand on a lot of this new equipment and. 04:30:50
In saying that, Sydney has asked if we can add two additional Teamsters in this request in 76. 04:30:56
It's built into the budget here. 04:31:04
If if we don't use it, the equipment sets, that's what, that's what we're learning. We don't want our equipment setting. We want 04:31:09
it to be public. 04:31:12
We want to be out there utilized every as much as possible. We got the maintenance on everything we're. 04:31:16
We're trying to get this squared away the best we can. 04:31:22
So we don't have enough dry, we don't have enough personnel to equip to. 04:31:26
Work the equipment that we bought. 04:31:30
Sure. 04:31:32
When I walked into this position we were in. 04:31:39
1800s. 04:31:41
We're now moving into the 21st century. 04:31:43
We picked up new equipment. 04:31:46
That was much needed. 04:31:47
Got rid of equipment that was. 04:31:49
Useless because it was no longer usable. 04:31:51
With with that said. 04:31:54
I don't know if y'all know, but there's over 200 subdivisions in the county now that we're responsible for. 04:31:56
We're picking up. We're getting ready to pick up. 04:32:01
Potentially 4 more. 04:32:03
In the near future. 04:32:05
When we pick up these subdivisions, there are several things that people don't realize we pick up. 04:32:07
We pick up the road work. 04:32:11
We pick up the storm water work. 04:32:13
And the older subdivisions, now we're going to have to start picking up the leaves. 04:32:15
I don't know if y'all realize not those leaves do cause a flooding issue. 04:32:20
So now we have the equipment to do that within these subdivisions. 04:32:24
We also now have a sweeper. 04:32:28
To run inside these subdivisions. 04:32:30
That also keep us in flooding our stormwater system. 04:32:31
So now with that said, bringing us into the 21st century. 04:32:35
Yes, Sir, we do need two more people. 04:32:38
To keep everything running like we need to run it. 04:32:40
Right now, this time of the year, it's grass cutting. 04:32:43
We get. 04:32:46
Lots of calls on grass cutting. Well now we have 5 tractors to the three. 04:32:47
Right now I've got enough people to man those. 04:32:53
Just those five tractors. 04:32:55
With the two additional people that. 04:32:57
We've moved into those positions. 04:32:59
But by doing that now move two people from somewhere else. 04:33:00
I pothole crew. 04:33:04
Patching grew the concrete crew. 04:33:06
I've pulled people out of those to man these tractors to take care of that. 04:33:08
Issue with the resident. 04:33:12
Now moving forward. 04:33:14
Again, we're going to pick up leafing. 04:33:16
We're going to pick up sleeper operations. 04:33:18
These are things that we're going to pick up moving into the 21st century. 04:33:20
With this department. 04:33:23
So yes Sir, I do need two more people to continue running all this equipment at one time. 04:33:25
Now with that said, I'm going to drop another one on you. 04:33:30
I'm going to Indianapolis tomorrow to look at some new equipment. 04:33:33
That will save the county money again. 04:33:37
A lot of this money we're spending contractual to fix our roads. 04:33:39
If this equipment's what I'm wanting. 04:33:43
We can start fixing some of these paving issues ourself. 04:33:46
To bring up that pacer rating they were talking about. 04:33:49
To get our splits different. 04:33:52
So then we have more money in the unrestricted fund. 04:33:53
If we can get our patient ratings up. 04:33:56
I'm going to give you a little idea. 04:33:58
If you take a section Rd. out here, it's got one bad spot in it. 04:34:00
That drops it from an 8 to A2. 04:34:03
You just killed your your average, right? 04:34:05
Those are spots that we can fix in house if this is the appropriate equipment I'm going to look at. 04:34:08
So then we can bring that up. 04:34:13
With that said. 04:34:15
Myself and my 2 crew leaders are now. 04:34:17
Certified patient. 04:34:19
So that's something else we're going to take on within within the department. 04:34:22
We're like, that's not going to go out to some. 04:34:26
Consultant somewhere paying them tons of money to do. 04:34:28
We're going to do that ourselves. 04:34:31
So again yesterday we do need those other two in. 04:34:32
Individuals. 04:34:36
Well, OK. 04:34:38
So 1176, you've got a budget of 1,000,000, seven, 51. 04:34:40
Yes, Yes, ma'am. 04:34:45
Oh, but the wheel tax isn't in here. 04:34:52
No. 04:34:56
It's in 73 the restricted OK. 04:34:57
I got. 04:35:00
Because whenever. 04:35:03
Yeah, page. 04:35:06
I think she combined 767376 and the wheel tax, didn't she? It says 1176 and she's got the wheel tax in here. Yeah. We can't say 04:35:12
there's $2.8 billion here. 04:35:17
No it the wheel tax contains the same restrictions as the restricted NBA 1173. 04:35:23
I don't know why she did that. 04:35:29
But your revenues do not do match. 04:35:47
Your yeah, the revenue IS1751670. 04:35:50
For 76. 04:35:54
Like I said earlier, you did a great job. 04:35:57
Sure. That the budget that thing is for you guys can be supported by next year's expected revenue without any worry about any area 04:35:59
for people who don't know what's in. 04:36:03
Even with those two positions. 04:36:08
Yes, yes. 04:36:10
Yes, Sir. 04:36:12
Again, I'm not going to come to you with an unreasonable, I'm for the two positions. I just want to make sure we can pay for them. 04:36:16
I don't want to get down the line here. We had to start laying people off. 04:36:22
OK. And I don't want to raise anymore taxes, so. 04:36:25
That's that's kind of where I'm at. 04:36:28
So I just want to make sure we're. 04:36:30
Were able to pay for them. 04:36:33
If they're needed. 04:36:34
And that we can. 04:36:36
Handle that expense. 04:36:38
As far as their. 04:36:40
You know, benefits. 04:36:41
To totally respect that Sarah and and believe me, we. 04:36:43
We Mull this over as. 04:36:46
Collectively as well, before we even. 04:36:49
Bring it here today so that. 04:36:51
You know, I hope you understand the confidence that we bring to you isn't just. 04:36:54
A want list or a wish list. And this is, it's a real life thing, you know. 04:36:58
If this if this, I'm telling you the the. 04:37:02
The storm water issues are significant in Floyd County and Sydney's got the equipment to get this thing. 04:37:05
I've had to go out and clean my own drain before my leaves I I do that. 04:37:11
It's because they get backed up. I understand all that. 04:37:16
This, this equipment, if we can keep it on the keep it on the roads. 04:37:19
With staffing. 04:37:23
This is going to prove to be extreme benefit for Floyd County. 04:37:24
This if he if this roller system and paving system works out. 04:37:28
I mean, it's, it's huge because not only will it, it will significantly reduce. 04:37:33
Hey, I got potholes out on my street. I need this fixed, patched, what have you. It's not him taking hot. 04:37:38
Cut asphalt taking it out and dump it in a pothole. 04:37:44
And run it over with, you know, a four foot roller, he can go out and. 04:37:47
Fix that whole section, small section of the road itself. 04:37:50
In the benefit there is not only keeping the residents content, the safety issues in place. 04:37:54
But also adjusting our pace ratings so that we can at some point maybe in 27. 04:37:59
Give us more latitude with the restricted, unrestricted allocations. 04:38:05
And you know again. 04:38:09
The wheel tax there, that could be our pacer, our paving money. 04:38:10
8 And then moving forward and Cindy's taking care of the patient ratings. 04:38:14
Cover any additional capital equipment needs that we might need participating probably wiping out the. 04:38:18
Just using the wheel tax for the. 04:38:23
Paving. 04:38:25
And they just and. 04:38:26
The rest of the line you would need. 04:38:27
You wouldn't need the money you've asked for in the past. That's right. 04:38:29
That's right, yeah. 04:38:32
That's where our hope is. That's where. 04:38:33
We're looking down the road and that's where our, hopefully our forecast is looking like. 04:38:35
OK, thank you. So I I would say as long as you're going to find a. 04:38:38
Place for that. 04:38:43
I'm OK with the 200, the two other people. I will find a place for that song. Then we have to consider. 04:38:45
You know. 04:38:54
If you'll consider the 75,000 the public safety, I will find a home for the salt. 04:38:57
I promise the 75 but the overtime. 04:39:01
I don't, but then we still gotta find the election we did, yeah. 04:39:05
Stan, what's the 737303? 04:39:08
What's the jump in professional services here? 04:39:11
In 76. 04:39:15
You're 97. 04:39:19
Are you 97? 04:39:23
So professional services. 04:39:26
So, heritage engineering. 04:39:29
True appropriation path. 04:39:32
392 five is actually through total budget for that for this year. 04:39:36
Hi, they had the adopted budget was 50,000 originally, but at the after the first year they come back and request an additional 04:39:42
appropriation. 04:39:46
There are some contractual obligations for stormwater evaluations in the county that. 04:39:56
I wasn't. 04:40:01
Aware of in 26 when I was building the budget, I obviously sitting in the role. I'm just. 04:40:02
I'm playing catch up so we didn't even have enough money to fund the obligations for this year, so. 04:40:08
We want to be able to explore every option so that. 04:40:13
These folks can do their job 100%. 04:40:16
On the way. 04:40:19
Anything else in 97? 04:40:26
1207 Pre. 04:40:30
Unsaved building pretty straight up. 04:40:33
Planning and development, yeah. 04:40:36
1222. 04:40:39
Emergency number one. 04:40:41
Yep, you know my mind. We do this one. 04:40:45
This morning and all those easy ones this afternoon. 04:40:47
Yeah, because you. 04:40:51
The last one. That's why we. 04:40:53
We knew you'd be taxed today and that way. 04:40:55
Don't ask me many questions. 04:40:58
I'm just. 04:41:00
Kidding. I don't know. Like I'm. I'm struggling to keep my head in this. 04:41:03
I'm sorry. 04:41:06
Do you want a 5 minute break? 04:41:08
Like the weird one? Yeah, these are. 04:41:09
Most of these are pretty straight up. So did we trade out? 04:41:13
The office equipment and Davis Towers for. 04:41:18
Equipment, maintenance and repair, That's correct. Yeah. These are the radios. The red new radio contract. 04:41:21
Commissioners signed for moving forward, so $2.5 million contract, we're paying $250,000 a year. 04:41:27
And then let's see. 04:41:37
Yeah, I think. 04:41:38
Really the only major one. 04:41:40
And it was pretty much a swap out, so. 04:41:45
Yep, 41. 04:41:51
Yes, I think there's only $167,000 in cash left in 4102 without tapping into the construction funds. 04:41:57
My my goal is probably if I can hit the end of this year without having to. 04:42:04
Push any of these expenses for Chase Downtown which is 4102 fund. 04:42:10
Into the edit fund. It's a win for all of us. 04:42:16
This is just a reset. 04:42:19
The budget allocations are just that, there's no cash there to support it, so technically you could probably 0 it out if you want. 04:42:21
That's totally up to you. I'm not going to be able to use any of those monies because I'm not going to have any cash so. 04:42:29
When I put it together, I was like, well, maybe there'll be some cash leftover, but the forecast and the projections are not. 04:42:35
Handing out quite like that so. 04:42:40
Yeah, that, that's absolutely fine. The only thing I would need would be the liability insurance money, the 50,000 there. Yes, 04:42:45
please. 04:42:49
And then when the 4th floor becomes open and construction starts off. 04:42:55
I'll come back to you because we'll request a draw from the escrow account on the 1.5. 04:42:59
Or however much we need for the construction process. OK. 04:43:04
Is that fair? 04:43:08
Thank you. 04:43:10
4400. 04:43:13
It's just a bond payment. Yeah, this is just the red bar bond pay. 04:43:15
45 and that can actually be zeroed out too. 04:43:22
45. 04:43:29
Which one? 04:43:31
What is that fun? 04:43:31
Which one? 04:43:33
45 Nine is a tip #31. 04:43:34
What? 04:43:36
Tiffany Innovation Park. 04:43:37
Generates. 04:43:40
0. 04:43:45
4510 Edwardsville School Again, this is a. 04:43:46
This one in. 04:43:49
Anyway, this is just a bond payment out of the Edwardsville. 04:43:58
School location the bond payments 900 and. 04:44:01
33522. 04:44:05
OK. 04:44:12
At 4933. 04:44:17
Do you have one? 04:44:19
4933 depending on how much cash we can generate 304933 redevelopment fund the. 04:44:25
The appropriations are there, but I won't spend more than what the cash balance is available. 04:44:32
What's 49? 04:44:37
We already covered that. That was youth shelter. 04:44:39
OK. 04:44:41
Yeah. 04:44:43
4941 The CCD fund. 04:44:46
It's just got the two bonds coming out of there. 04:44:49
And professional services in capital improvements. 04:44:52
Which we don't. I haven't touched any of those two. I don't touch those two lines. It's only the bond payments currently. 04:44:56
We have it as a backup if we need some. 04:45:02
Something that commissioners might Arthros. 04:45:05
9112. 04:45:09
9112 is just a holding fund for the bond payments for subdivisional developments. 04:45:11
Nothing goes out there without. 04:45:16
Commissioners approval to release the bottom line. 04:45:18
7303 look good 9112. 04:45:23
Good. 04:45:26
9113 GIS Fund. 04:45:27
Pictometry is the only thing that is currently in there. 04:45:29
The office equipment lacked to be zeroed out. Don't need that, just a pictometry line. 04:45:35
Yes, ma'am. 04:45:40
9121 Highlander Tiff This is again just a bond payment. The money is generated from the TIF. 04:45:45
Should be the only. 04:45:51
Professional Services. 04:45:53
Now you can take both those out. 04:45:55
Yep, please. Thank you. 04:45:56
9124 This is our grant fund. This is the end dot grant fund. 04:46:00
There's allocations spread around. 04:46:06
That allow us to utilize any of the cash that's available in here for economic development. 04:46:09
Programs. 04:46:15
And 9130 this is. 04:46:20
Again, the commissioners line, the bond payment and Indiana economic development. 04:46:23
This is the US Bancorp payment. 04:46:29
And the payment to be OK for the other bond. 04:46:32
52 and 62, both of those can be zeroed out. I've got 5000 in one account, 3000 in another, but I've got no funding source. 04:46:39
To sustain any of those additional appropriation requests. So if you would please zero those to. 04:46:47
And I think that's it. 04:46:54
Any other questions or? 04:46:56
Well done. 04:47:03
I guess. 04:47:04
I better find the. 04:47:06
Place the house loads the salt. 04:47:07
Right, Denise? 04:47:11
He's talking about salt again. 04:47:13
The word of the day. 04:47:17
Now we'll take it under advisement, all of it. Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you for your time. Diana. This bottom 04:47:21
#30,000,920. 04:47:25
21,714. 04:47:29
Yeah, that's all those together. 04:47:31
So then how can that number hadn't gone down since he's zeroed out? 04:47:34
She's got. 04:47:39
Again. 04:47:42
That we're going to end up with $564,000, yeah. 04:47:49
At the end of the year. 04:47:53
So here the thing with that is this. 04:47:55
It's like when we built when I built the budget. Talking with Diana after the forecast came down from DLGF. 04:47:59
They don't consider opening cash balance. 04:48:05
Nor they consider any other miscellaneous generated revenues. 04:48:07
The Form 4, you have to, she's got to fill it out. 04:48:10
But what they do for the edit the MBH LRS funds is they only allow budgets to be presented based on what their forecasted revenues 04:48:13
are going to be. 04:48:17
I can come back to you in January. 04:48:22
If you can do additional appropriation, so that provided as part of the budget, right? So isn't that the answer? 04:48:24
To some of what? 04:48:30
Or have a problem with yours the 250? 04:48:32
We can't guarantee that's what's going to be remain. 04:48:37
Well, I I'm certainly going to try. 04:48:40
But. 04:48:44
Based on. 04:48:49
The projections. 04:48:50
Well, this was back in July. 04:48:51
Do you have a current projection of what you think the edit? Oh absolutely, yeah. 04:48:54
Yeah, actually I do. I think it's going to end up with $454,000 in the other fund. 04:49:00
And the only question I have is about sustainability, is this the right location to house these election? 04:49:05
Requests from the clerk. 04:49:12
Because in 29 you're combining edit and county general and you're going to tax county general and that overall. 04:49:14
Makeup and the only reason that. 04:49:20
Selected that that line to pull out this year and we could, you could, we could put it back in there in January. 04:49:23
Is it needs to be addressed somewhere in the future, it's going to have to have a sustained housing. 04:49:28
A fund. 04:49:34
It's gonna have to move to the general fund anyways. The general fund is gonna have to basically go through almost a whole 04:49:36
makeover. 04:49:39
So if we can in January, go ahead with the elections back in there. 04:49:43
For 27. 04:49:47
And then 28, I'm 29 because the general fund is going to have all of those local income taxes combined into all of them jail lit 04:49:49
judicial that. 04:49:53
All those go away and they're all going to go back. It's all going to, like I said, the general fund is going to get completely 04:49:59
restructured in 2029. It's not going to look anything like this. No, I know, I know. I think that's the nature for the 250. 04:50:06
Probably dressed in January. Don't budget it, we just make a note. 04:50:12
Is come back in January, are we funded from 7303 and. 04:50:17
I don't notice any fear if you can support it right now with what it already has in there 1186. 04:50:22
What's 7303? 04:50:28
Raver by rainy day I just looked at river. 04:50:31
Commissioners. 04:50:38
Dog catcher. 04:50:42
So we got the salt taken care of and we got the 250 taken care of. 04:50:45
I'll come back in January for the five overtime. 04:50:51
Is that right? 04:50:56
I understand you saved 75,000 soldiers. 04:50:59
OK. 04:51:03
All right, he's going to save me some money on song. 04:51:04
OK, we good. 04:51:08
Because as good as we can be at this point, God bless you guys. Thank you, thank you. 04:51:13
We can discuss things, but we need to take a 10 minute break. 04:51:27
Well, we can. We've got a 4:00 meeting we can discuss. 04:51:32
Whatever changes. 04:51:37
And so you're going to lose the sheriff, the sheriff's operating, and I will, I will. 04:51:53
I'll reflect that as best I can, but remember we'll have to we'll pull it out of general fund for budget submission purposes and 04:52:01
we will appropriate it into public safety lid. 04:52:06
At the first meeting in January. 04:52:11
And I will help mine that in the e-mail just like I did last year when I sent out the updated budget and all those things that 04:52:13
were discussed by by point. 04:52:17
Now, what is the other million we're going to get from the interest? 04:52:22
I will show everything that was and that way you guys have that. 04:52:29
Also inputted in gateways but I could print a form for me to show you the budget as like I said it's it's a shell game you got to 04:52:40
move other stuff out of that fund. 04:52:46
To pay for other things, if that's. 04:52:52
But they just not going to reveal their hand. You know they're going to. 04:52:56
They're going to hold back as much as they can. 04:53:00
And that's the way with. 04:53:05
Everybody they. 04:53:06
They're going to ask for here. 04:53:08
Hoping that they get here. 04:53:10
But you gotta. You gotta, I know. 04:53:12
That's no, I get it. 04:53:20
And I think last year went smoother than this year because of some of this. 04:53:22

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Event transcript
Step on up. 00:00:04
Oh well, good morning. Happy Tuesday. 00:00:05
OK. 00:00:11
You can see on my budget lines in 0001. 00:00:13
Besides the employee. 00:00:20
Increase the jury. 00:00:22
Line went up about $10,000. We have had more juries this past year and so we plan for that because it does cover not. 00:00:25
Their meals and mileage and all that, just in case if we don't use it, it goes right back to you guys. 00:00:33
0010 there's nothing. 00:00:39
For increase. 00:00:43
0062. 00:00:47
And this is where if we have a lot of questions, Melissa is here for poll worker pay. The election board has decided to try to 00:00:49
give them an increase. 00:00:53
To uh uh. 00:00:58
Hopefully entice poll workers. Average age is 76 years old. However they do show up. 00:01:00
For the most part now this budget, we did it off of eight sites, OK, Just it could be less, it could be, you know more. The other 00:01:06
thing is keep in mind that next year is a municipal. 00:01:11
And the city is will be paying back. 00:01:17
Probably about 80%. 00:01:21
Yeah, about 80% of the budget back. 00:01:23
Yes, ma'am. 00:01:29
It's Sharon speaking to your microphone. Oh, sure. 00:01:30
And we did discuss in our meeting they have budgeted for it for next year. We made that. 00:01:40
Question in our meeting and they are being budgeted for that, so yes. 00:01:46
Wouldn't they raise it to you? 00:01:52
The poll workers. 00:01:53
So yes, I have that. 00:01:55
So currently our poll workers are paid $115.00 a day. That's early voting. 00:01:58
And we are asking for 200 for poll. Oops, I'm sorry, that is Election Day. 00:02:02
We're asking that to be bumped up. 00:02:10
To 1. 00:02:14
Oops, 125. 00:02:17
So from 1:15 to 120, five, $10 a day. 00:02:19
And then on the inspectors, they currently get 140 a day and they're going to go to 160 a day, so 20 more dollars on the day. 00:02:23
No one's gonna make it enough money to go to Tahiti, but it would be a nice little plus. 00:02:32
We also did put there a little bit of money in their lunches. If you see the meals, we did bump that up just a little bit because 00:02:36
that's not tax. 00:02:41
So really they would see it a little bit of an increase. 00:02:45
OK, that's that one. 00:02:52
Nothing on 0279. 00:02:54
No increase. 00:02:58
Look at that. Easy peasy. 00:02:59
OK. 00:03:01
0000. 00:03:02
Nothing there either. 00:03:07
Well, look at that and I'm done, right? 00:03:08
Unless you have a question. 00:03:12
So the increase in the. 00:03:15
Clerk's Office. 00:03:18
Is 52,000. 00:03:19
407 is that right? 00:03:21
You're looking at the general. 00:03:24
That is out. Is that all salaries or? 00:03:27
What? What are you looking at? 00:03:31
Yes. 00:03:34
Yes. So yes, that was the 3% increase. 00:03:35
Was that right saying all salaries? There is some of it like you pointed out, your jury line is increasing a little. 00:03:40
Postage is up. My postage did go up, yes. 00:03:46
Hostage did go up because it went to $0.85 and certified is now 50. 00:03:52
550. 00:03:56
Sometimes I have 12A day, 15 a day, sometimes I have 5. I just never know and so that has to. 00:03:58
The increase. So that was the other one. 00:04:04
I should have stated from. 00:04:09
Before we started that. 00:04:11
All budgets will show. 00:04:13
At this point at 3%. 00:04:16
Increase. That's what we're working off of. 00:04:17
So that's. 00:04:19
Just take that into account as you're looking through. 00:04:21
All right. Any other questions for the clerk? 00:04:24
All right, we will take it under advisement. 00:04:28
And I just want to tell you all, I have loved serving for eight years in this office. I hope you see me next year, just in a 00:04:30
different capacity. 00:04:33
Absolutely, we hope to see it. 00:04:36
You're up, Judge. 00:04:45
Ready when you are. 00:04:47
Adobe Starter, good morning. 00:04:51
Some will start early, some will start late. Party don't start till I get here. 00:04:55
What's in that line? 00:05:01
Don't you want to know? 00:05:03
A coffee, even. 00:05:05
All right, so. 00:05:10
I don't know if there's anything. I didn't ask for any increases anywhere. I think there's. 00:05:12
Let me see. The only increases were from that 3% where the. 00:05:17
For the employees for the raises, and I think there's one spot where I noticed a decrease due to. 00:05:21
Subscriptions goes from 2500 to 1500. 00:05:27
Law book skills from 17,018 thousand. I think it was always 18,000. 00:05:30
So I still use law books. Surprisingly, yes. 00:05:34
I don't. I think because of the Circuit Court has the budget for almost all of it. 00:05:38
We maintain it so. 00:05:43
Some of the judges like they utilize some of the bench books and things I'm. 00:05:44
Part of the digital age, so. 00:05:49
All right. So unless there's any questions, I mean it's all. 00:05:54
The only change you'll see in certain courts budget is in their portion of the judicial Let all payroll taxes and benefits out of 00:05:59
the judicial list due to the estimated income for next year. 00:06:05
We can always look back in next year if our car carry over is enough to cover that. 00:06:11
2027 You know that one. 00:06:17
That one got tight. 00:06:19
And you can see, I think last year I've asked for and you guys approved, which I appreciated more for. 00:06:23
Interpreter services and GAL regarding the litem you can already see on the extended up to this point, but where we're at, I mean 00:06:28
it was 15,000 is my total budget for GAL last year, I'm already. 00:06:33
18 five and I still have several outstanding bills. 00:06:38
Interpretability at three of the five and we'll probably end up going over that by the end of the year, but. 00:06:41
Hopefully we try to pull from somewhere else within here there's any access, but that's the plan. 00:06:46
Any questions for Judge Brown? 00:06:55
All right. We will take it under advisement. Thank you. 00:06:57
Judge Flanagan, Europe. 00:07:02
I don't know, I'm just going to. 00:07:10
Pull up a note I have here. 00:07:11
Any my budget is the same except for. 00:07:15
Cost of living, so I didn't know if you had any. 00:07:18
Questions. I did want to report that. 00:07:20
So if we stay on target through May the 4D. 00:07:23
Child support. 00:07:29
The Fed federal governments reimbursed us through May of my budget $33,128.00. 00:07:30
In 2025 they reimburse 73641 so. 00:07:37
My budgets like 1/2 budget. 00:07:41
And then I also earn incentive money that. 00:07:44
I can't spend Stan can speak better to this and probably Diana, but because I only. 00:07:47
Because I do other things, I can't spend that money, but the prosecutor does spend that. 00:07:52
So I know to only earn that money for the county. 00:07:58
I earn a huge. 00:08:01
Portion of the incentive money that. 00:08:03
Mr. Lane is able to use. 00:08:05
So that's all I have. 00:08:09
Any questions? 00:08:13
Oh no, I'll be back with Darius for the. 00:08:14
Their budget as well. 00:08:19
OK. Thank you. We'll take it under advisement. 00:08:20
I'm assuming. 00:08:24
Judge Hancock and Judge Granger will not be here. 00:08:26
Touching Jimmy's usually not, but. 00:08:29
Text like I'm the mom. I just text everyone. 00:08:33
Here today. 00:08:40
Thank you. Right. 00:08:42
Data for both superior to and superior 3. It's the same thing as circuit board. The only changes are that. 00:08:45
In judicial land, that's the benefits have been pulled out of the budget just because we can't support it for next year as far as. 00:08:52
Everything else came flat except for. 00:09:00
That 3% increase that was requested across the board. 00:09:03
We can look at them, I can pull them up if you guys want to, if you've already reviewed them. 00:09:07
I anticipate Judge Stiller will be down here for the time slot. What time is that? 00:09:17
Haven't heard otherwise. Can we talk about a couple other things in the meantime? 00:09:22
We can, we can review budgets that I'm responsible for. You can discuss other things with whatever your preference is, so. 00:09:27
I mean, we all know that we, we, we have some issues with the budget. 00:09:34
So. 00:09:38
It's not. 00:09:40
My recommendation? 00:09:42
Would be to go through all of the budgets and then maybe at the end of it discuss what those issues are all at once. Well, some of 00:09:44
it may already be addressed. 00:09:47
We're not going to get there. 00:09:53
OK, so. 00:09:55
I would like to. 00:09:56
One of the things that I think we need to be thinking about as we go through these things. 00:09:58
Here is that. 00:10:03
We've got a 3%. 00:10:05
Shower increase in here. 00:10:07
I just looked up what the CPI. 00:10:10
Projection is for next year, it's 2.6. 00:10:12
So I think we really need to understand what's the total salaries. 00:10:15
For 2027. 00:10:20
And how much of that can be impacted? 00:10:23
Can you do any of that? 00:10:26
On the fly or? 00:10:29
I think that's, I think that's perfect, yeah. 00:10:34
That's why I wanted to talk about it now. 00:10:37
Council that. 00:10:40
While the CPI for next year might be 2.6, this council has. 00:10:41
Consistently even lower. 00:10:45
That over the last few years as well. I know there's some. 00:10:47
I know there's some salaries that can't be impacted because of the. 00:10:52
Bargaining. 00:10:58
Agreement. Are you all ready for me? 00:11:00
You can step right up. Good morning. Good morning. 00:11:02
Well, thank you. That was perfect timing. 00:11:06
I'm I'm Judge Maria Granger, Floyd Superior Court 3. So I just want to start off by saying this is my last budget land. 00:11:09
And it hasn't always been the members on this body. 00:11:16
But I am grateful. 00:11:20
To. 00:11:22
The Floyd County Council. 00:11:23
For always being able to do everything that was within their power to make sure. 00:11:25
That the court ran and it ran successfully. 00:11:29
And we could still be working on innovations and we could still be taking care of the needs of the people of this community. 00:11:33
It has meant everything to me. 00:11:39
And I'm just so grateful and I wish I could have everybody in the room that. 00:11:42
Pitched in and did this. 00:11:45
But I hope that that message is. 00:11:47
Resonates to all the people who need to hear it so. 00:11:50
But with that. 00:11:54
I've presented and requested what I normally do. I like to make sure that. 00:11:56
If there's whatever ways we can. 00:12:01
Thank the employees for their service. 00:12:03
With the cola and those type of things, I know that. 00:12:06
Those are still being considered and that but. 00:12:08
That was really the only thing that I. 00:12:11
That was really something I wanted to make sure I put into the record. 00:12:14
And I'll do what? 00:12:17
What you'd feel is appropriate. 00:12:19
And what you can do? 00:12:21
So that's really all I have. 00:12:25
I've looked over. 00:12:28
I have more questions. 00:12:29
Yeah, I'm good. 00:12:30
We'll take it under advisement. Thank you. Can we? Thank you for your service. Thank you. Thank you. 00:12:33
Enjoy your retirement. She's not gonna retire. She's gonna be a special judge now. 00:12:38
30 days a week. 00:12:44
It feels weird. It's like a little bit surreal. 00:12:46
You know that I'm actually. 00:12:51
Winding this down, but. 00:12:53
It's exciting and I'm sure I will see you around. I heard a friend of mine. 00:12:55
Judge said the other day. Said I'm not a retiree, I'm a pensioner. 00:12:58
A pensioner. 00:13:02
Well, I I went back to my hometown. 00:13:06
And I was singing there. 00:13:08
And so they said, oh, you're the singing judge. I said, well, maybe I'm the judge that sings. I don't know which way it is. Maybe 00:13:10
I'm the singer, that's the judge. Who knows? 00:13:15
We'll see. You'll be hearing from me. 00:13:20
Take care. 00:13:21
Judge Stiller. 00:13:26
Good morning, everyone. Good morning. 00:13:33
If you want to highlight anything, yeah, you can highlight anything you want or tell us it's all good and. 00:13:39
Be looking, hopefully it's all good. There are a couple highlights. 00:13:44
And so the only. 00:13:48
Increase in the budget this year was the 3% colas. 00:13:49
Which you probably heard from the other judges was. 00:13:53
Essentially a $1716.00 raise for. 00:13:56
Court staff. 00:13:59
And then? 00:14:00
We went down because last year, if you remember, we had an increase on our equipment because we needed a copier. 00:14:02
So we took that back out. 00:14:07
That went down from. 00:14:11
11/5. 00:14:13
In 26 back to 6665. 00:14:14
And that's kind of it as far as. 00:14:19
Changes. 00:14:21
One thing I do want to. 00:14:24
And we'll be back in front of you. 00:14:25
Came to my attention actually. 00:14:27
That so we had. 00:14:29
A very lengthy. 00:14:32
Jury trial earlier this year. 00:14:34
And it has put us in the negative on our overtime. 00:14:36
Substantially. 00:14:40
So we've spent. 00:14:42
Today on overtime $6983 we only have 2000 budgeted. 00:14:45
Note that we. 00:14:51
This is rare. 00:14:53
Frankly, we. 00:14:54
We don't you it was a three-week trial. What happens during our jury trials? 00:14:57
Our court staff. We rent 2 dockets. We run the jury trial. 00:15:01
And we run. 00:15:06
A regular docket, yes. 00:15:07
Senior judges come in. 00:15:09
And. 00:15:11
What that means is our staff has to work late into the evenings many days to keep up with. 00:15:12
Run in two dockets, not to mention have to come in. 00:15:18
Typically an hour early. 00:15:22
And stay late just with the jury. Then after that we finished that and we divide and conquer because we have 5 staff but. 00:15:24
The ones you know, they have to get everything into the system, so. 00:15:30
When it goes on for three, you know, sometimes trials aren't two or three days. 00:15:34
So, but then when it goes on for three weeks. 00:15:38
The reason I'm bringing this up, we have another three-week trial starting on Monday. 00:15:41
And several behind it. So I don't know what the rest of this year is going to look like, but. 00:15:46
My budget is probably going to be able to absorb this. I will be coming back in front of you to transfer from. 00:15:50
Law books and contractual services, which I think we've got funds to cover that. We don't keep a whole lot extra in our budget. As 00:15:55
you know, we don't pad our budgets. 00:15:59
Keeping there enough for variables, but. 00:16:04
In this case, I suspect we're going to be needing it. 00:16:06
You know, if it goes like the last three-week trial. 00:16:10
We will probably and. 00:16:13
That's pretty much what it cost us. 00:16:14
For three weeks and we've got another one expected to go 3 weeks so. 00:16:16
Probably be something in that ballpark. 00:16:20
And again, my budget can absorb probably this first one, but I don't know that it's going to be able to absorb the second one, so. 00:16:22
Just a heads up. 00:16:28
Change your budget at all for next year. 00:16:29
I did not and I don't recommend doing that unless you all really wanted us to because it is an anomaly and especially to have two 00:16:31
in the same year. 00:16:35
Frequently we will have. 00:16:40
You know. 00:16:41
One to two trials a year. And they might be. 00:16:42
Anywhere from three days to a week. 00:16:45
Soda. 00:16:47
Yeah, it's highly unusual because we had three weeks consecutive. 00:16:51
In a row that. 00:16:55
That it was very labor intensive trial so. 00:16:58
But this next one I expect will be the same. 00:17:01
So anyway, that's it. Any questions or? 00:17:04
You do a great job. 00:17:09
Thank you, I appreciate it. 00:17:10
We'll take it under advisement. Thank you. Thank you all. Have a great day. 00:17:11
Judge Hancock. 00:17:17
Good morning. Good morning. 00:17:23
Sounds pretty straightforward, about the same as last year. I think everybody looked it over. 00:17:26
I don't know what to say. 00:17:30
That's about it. 00:17:33
I assume you all got a copy of it? We absolutely do. 00:17:37
All right. Yes, Sir. 00:17:40
Any questions for Judge Hancock did a great job. Judge appreciate. 00:17:45
Well, the only thing I'm. 00:17:49
I will say one thing. 00:17:51
We're having a. 00:17:53
Unusually large number of. 00:17:56
Of Hispanics. 00:17:59
And not just Hispanics, but a lot of people that were requiring an interpreter for. 00:18:01
And I had an interpreter set up some time ago. 00:18:07
And. 00:18:11
Somebody. 00:18:16
Contacted the state court administration and they told us that. 00:18:18
That person wasn't certified by the state so we couldn't use him. 00:18:22
So basically what it's come down to is they've. 00:18:26
The state court administration has forced us to use certain. 00:18:30
People, uh. 00:18:33
To interpret. 00:18:34
So it's cost us a lot more money. 00:18:36
We're out of money this this year. 00:18:38
For our budget for. 00:18:40
For interpreters. 00:18:43
And I don't know, we didn't ask for. 00:18:44
Anymore but. 00:18:47
It's going to be a problem. 00:18:49
I can guarantee you. 00:18:51
As we go through the year. 00:18:53
Just want you to know that ahead of time. 00:18:56
$5000 budget for next year. 00:18:58
Is there any? Is there any? 00:19:06
Talk of using AI or using computer. 00:19:10
Well, they obviously they will not allow us to do that. 00:19:16
Now they're they're. 00:19:19
Determine that you're going to have somebody. 00:19:21
A live person doing it. 00:19:25
Because they're afraid there will be a mix up. 00:19:26
That's why they didn't want us to use uncertified. 00:19:29
Interpreters it's just a liability issues that. 00:19:34
Yeah, I think that's that's their biggest. 00:19:37
Compliant. A lot of times we'll have a. 00:19:39
A family member that speaks English very well. 00:19:43
That's willing to come up. 00:19:46
And interpret. We can't even let that happen. 00:19:48
How do you get certified, Jay? 00:19:51
Well, I have to go through. 00:19:54
Process with the state court administration and. 00:19:56
With the state. 00:19:59
In order to get. 00:20:01
Certified and. 00:20:01
There's certain ones did. 00:20:03
Others don't want to go through all the hoops. You know, they don't want to jump all the hoops. I mean, it's pretty expensive. 00:20:07
So are they requiring attorneys to use? 00:20:14
Certified interpreters or can. 00:20:16
Attorneys, however, really want, I don't think they already do her well, but they're one in the courtroom. It's on the record. 00:20:17
You know, it's obviously. 00:20:25
Different, but I just wanted, you know, ahead of time. 00:20:27
That something's coming down the Pike. It just keeps, seems like it keeps. 00:20:31
Expanding, expanding, and expanding. 00:20:34
And I don't know why. 00:20:37
I would have thought that it would have slowed down instead of getting better, but it's. 00:20:39
It's not. 00:20:43
It's expanding. 00:20:44
We had. 00:20:45
Last about 3 weeks ago. 00:20:47
We had to have somebody. 00:20:50
Spoke Mandarin. 00:20:54
Some kind of a Slavic? 00:20:58
We had like 4 different. 00:21:01
Different kinds. 00:21:02
Wasn't just Spanish. 00:21:03
It's becoming a real problem, correct? 00:21:07
OK. 00:21:09
All right, any anything else for? 00:21:11
We will take it under advisement. Thank you for coming. 00:21:14
Kelly, whenever you're ready. 00:21:20
Good morning. Good morning. 00:21:29
Kelly Deusser, Chief Probation officer, Floyd County. 00:21:31
I know that I have several funds and I have a couple minutes per fund, but I didn't know if I could just take a couple minutes to 00:21:35
explain. 00:21:39
The way the probation funding is, go for it. 00:21:44
Perfect. 00:21:47
So to start off, probation is a county function. We are also. 00:21:49
Under the judicial, judicial, so we're certified by the state and then so statutorily. 00:21:54
Counties are responsible for making sure the salary schedule is. 00:22:01
Maintained so every year there's a state minimum. 00:22:06
That, umm. 00:22:10
We have to calculate salaries. 00:22:11
And we have two additional funds that can help support that. 00:22:13
So. 00:22:17
The main fund would be the county, which would be. 00:22:18
Base pays and then the administrative is set up for that is administrative fee that we collect. It's a small. 00:22:22
Building fun, but it is meant to support any steps and increases. 00:22:29
Each year. 00:22:34
And then administrative is supposed to be the main fund for that. 00:22:35
We've had several 100,000 in the administrative. It used to solely support the steps and increases. 00:22:39
And that's when that. 00:22:46
Supplemental user fee comes into play, whatever. 00:22:47
Steps and increases that cannot be covered under the administrative can be then supplemented. 00:22:50
And the user fees and that user fee fund is also to support the probation department. 00:22:56
The collection of user fees is. 00:23:02
Not to replace any funding. It's supposed to help support and run the probation department and pay for the increases. 00:23:06
So I just wanted to kind of lay that foundation out. That's the way that the funds are supposed to be used. That's the way we. 00:23:13
Always ran the funds. 00:23:20
We knew statutorily several years ago that our administrative fund was not going to be able to support all the steps increases. We 00:23:22
don't know those year for year because. 00:23:27
It happens upstate under the judicial and then once that's decided it just gets sent down to the local counties. 00:23:32
We had. 00:23:39
I would say a reserve in our admin and a reserve in our user fees. 00:23:41
Once we were done draining the administrative fee, we knew we were going to have to start start using the supplemental. 00:23:45
At the same time, we were asked to use some of our reserves to help the county. 00:23:51
And probation did that, that three, I think it was a $300,000 initial request and through those years we have. 00:23:57
Used 1.6 million. 00:24:06
Of those user fees. 00:24:08
Our collections have not increased. We still bring in steadily around 300,000 in our user fees, but our probation budgets have 00:24:09
went up to 600,000. 00:24:14
Which included fully supporting several officer positions. 00:24:19
So with that being said, we are just moving it back to the way the schedule is supposed to be done. 00:24:24
Our reserve and our user fees is now down from the 1.2. 00:24:29
To about 700,000. We knew that was going to happen. We knew the sustainability. 00:24:33
But we have not increased our county budget since I believe, 2020. 00:24:39
We were over 950,000 then and I think we've actually reduced it under 9 and we've never asked for a penny more from the county in 00:24:44
the last five years. 00:24:50
So we have really tried to. 00:24:55
Maintain. 00:24:57
Collections. 00:24:59
Which again is not to. 00:25:00
It's not to replace funding, it's supposed to help support the department. 00:25:03
And we've still also used above that so. 00:25:07
With that being said, to start with our first budget. 00:25:10
Which is the lit fund? 00:25:14
That fund would cover all the base salaries each year. 00:25:16
And any. 00:25:19
Case manager salaries. 00:25:21
And so each year as we start new budgets, the county would only be responsible for what the salary schedule states. 00:25:23
And that. 00:25:30
There would never be any increases from the year before, so anything that would be increased from the salary schedule would come 00:25:31
out of the administrative fee, so would keep it clean. 00:25:36
And then we would. 00:25:41
We I've always supported our probation department. Right now we have 3 offices. 00:25:42
We. 00:25:48
Normally we'll spend what we collect in just supporting the department that includes the drug screens, that includes. 00:25:49
The files that includes our incentives, we have programming within the probation department. 00:25:55
Anything and everything that it costs to support the department has always been done through the user fees and we'd like to 00:26:00
continue to do that. 00:26:04
So that's the public safety. That's the public safety. 00:26:09
And how much is that total budget for 2027? 00:26:12
OK, yes I have 1.4. 00:26:16
Yeah, and it was, but it's a. 00:26:18
High jump, but that's why I just wanted to explain if we would have been doing the salary schedule for the last several years, we 00:26:21
would have already been up there. 00:26:25
But we have saved the county because we have maintained all those increases. 00:26:29
And in colas. 00:26:34
Or not own for everybody in the department out of those user fees to not increase our county. 00:26:36
Budget. 00:26:42
So that is the first fund. 00:26:49
And then any questions on the? 00:26:52
So that is the lit. 00:26:54
The 12:37 as far as the. 00:26:55
The next one is the county offender transfer fund, the 12:20. 00:26:59
That is our Interstate transfer fee statutorily if anybody is transferred out of the state. 00:27:03
They have to go through a federal compact and that compact has a fee that. 00:27:08
Get split between the state and the county. 00:27:13
The county portion stays here. That county portion. 00:27:16
We have about 50,000. 00:27:19
Currently in that fund that is to help. 00:27:21
Extraditions on warrants for those violations that are through the Interstate Compact. If they violate out-of-state by statute, we 00:27:23
have to have no. 00:27:28
A No bond and we have to extradite them wherever they're at and that helps with those costs. 00:27:33
So I do need. I know we had a set up with the sheriff before. 00:27:37
And we are that fund is getting increasingly high and I need to make sure that we are utilizing that. 00:27:41
Or its fullest. 00:27:46
But it is. 00:27:48
Only certain ones. 00:27:49
So unfortunately, unless they're in the Interstate, unless they had a full extradition warrant, that was the only ones we can use 00:27:50
those funds for. But it will pay for everything with that transport. 00:27:55
The administrative fund, the 2000, that fund we have budgeted and that is covering. 00:28:01
All of the. 00:28:07
Increases with our grants. 00:28:08
Our grant officers right now. 00:28:11
That is something that is also included is we have had, we've not added any probation officers. 00:28:13
Through the county and I know I've been here since. 00:28:19
2004. 00:28:22
And so the office, the probation officers we've added have always been your grants and we've gotten that Justice Reinvestment 00:28:23
grant. 00:28:27
And each year you all have worked with us to help with that funding once it's been reduced and now we're at the point where. 00:28:30
We are getting $30,000. 00:28:37
From the. 00:28:41
From this. 00:28:42
The Department of Corrections for that. 00:28:43
Which is pushing everything back. 00:28:45
Health information back on our budgets so. 00:28:47
We would. 00:28:51
Is that budget $9000? 00:28:53
Which What do you talk? Which one? 00:28:56
2000 is for these salaries. 00:28:58
That. 00:29:02
We did not. 00:29:02
That the grant did not cover. 00:29:03
Outside of the county's portion. 00:29:06
So now we had to bring in the county. 00:29:08
And our user fees in the grant. 00:29:10
So to put it under the schedule, this is what the schedule would look like. 00:29:14
And then we would use the administrative fund because that fund went from hundreds of thousands of dollars and it's now been 00:29:17
slowly growing. We have to use that first, but until we can. 00:29:22
Build that fund back up. I can't support a lot of salaries. 00:29:28
So to keep it clean with the grant, I do the administrative fees for the grant people out of that and then the other PO. 00:29:31
Increases out of the 2100 fund, which is what's coming up. But am I looking at that right? It's 9300. 00:29:38
Yes, OK. 00:29:46
Yeah, that's why I have the arrow there. Yes, that's just for the 2 Grant. 00:29:48
And then the next one we have is that 2100 but that. 00:29:52
But that. 00:29:56
Fun has 700,000. 00:29:57
No. Oh, OK, No, I'm confused. OK, let me get the 2100 fund. Oh, the 21102 thousand, we're at the 2000 administrative, OK. 00:30:00
That fund? 00:30:10
Brings in about 40,000 to 50,000 a year. 00:30:11
And after you look back. 00:30:16
We used all those funds up until it went down to 0 in 24. 00:30:18
And so we've not had enough money to support anything, any full steps. So we've. 00:30:24
Been trying to use that because we have to track it for financials with that too. Confused. OK, so the administrative fund is the 00:30:30
one that's supposed to do all the steps. 00:30:34
But that is a fund that doesn't have more than $50,000 a year coming in. 00:30:39
OK. And then the 2100 fund? 00:30:43
Is the one that supports the probation department, and it's supposed to cover whatever steps and increases the administrative fund 00:30:47
cannot sustain. 00:30:51
And that fund is? 00:30:56
OK. So in the 2100 that's the fund that we have brought in. 00:31:02
Approximately 1 point. 00:31:14
One point. 00:31:17
1.1 million. 00:31:18
And we've expended 1.67 million. 00:31:20
In 23, we had a 1.2 million cash balance and now we're down. 00:31:22
Under 700 and our budget out of that went from 1:54 hundred 504 to 628 this year, so. 00:31:27
That would cover all of our supplies to run the department and any other increases. 00:31:34
That total for that fund. 00:31:39
Turned into. 00:31:42
$244,000. 00:31:45
And just so that. 00:31:50
To be aware, as of now we have only collected $181,000 in user fees this year. 00:31:52
Because those who come on probation. 00:32:00
Are mostly. 00:32:03
Stabilization. 00:32:08
They don't. We don't have any prerequisites, so user fees, if we can collect them if we're able to, you're supposed to go to help 00:32:10
support them. 00:32:13
And so we again, we're not a business, we just collect those. 00:32:17
To help support what we can. 00:32:21
The next one is the Juvenile Informal Fund. We no longer collect juvenile fees. 00:32:27
So this fund, we are basically just utilizing it up. It is down to. 00:32:32
The last couple thousands of dollars and I believe if not this year, next year we will use up the remaining of that fund and then 00:32:38
that will no longer be included. 00:32:42
The 9108 is our grant fund that I put in here that we submitted. We got a total of $36,000 from DOC. We used to get 131,000. 00:32:48
And that was for two probation officers in our programming that is for intensive supervision. 00:32:59
High. Those are the ones that need extra stabilization. They have programming where there's incentives. 00:33:05
There are sanctions. 00:33:12
They go through phases, things of that nature that's been really successful that we do have the data. 00:33:14
Collected on that, but that funding is down to 36,000 total. 00:33:19
And then the only other fund we had was the 12:37, which is the opiate fund. 00:33:27
That fund solely supports our juvenile liaison. 00:33:32
And then we have a $5000 stipend. 00:33:35
That goes to one of our case managers and our probation department that is maintaining the data. 00:33:38
For the J Rec Board as well as helping with the Resource Inventory Committee. 00:33:43
So I missed the general fund somehow. We don't have a general, we don't have anything in the general, county general. You need 00:33:50
this all completely to the lid. 00:33:54
Oh, that's right, we moved it all to the net. 00:33:58
So I I do have a question. 00:34:01
So it looks like we're. 00:34:04
Increasing the lit. 00:34:08
By almost $500,000 for this year, correct? 00:34:11
But we've decreased the supplemental. 00:34:16
By 400,000 yes. 00:34:20
Yet the supplemental has. 00:34:22
$700,000 balance in it. 00:34:25
And the. 00:34:28
The lip is going to be almost completely drained. 00:34:30
By the end of 2020. 00:34:33
And we already put in 1.6 million of probation user fees that is not allowed to be spent the way that we've been spending them. 00:34:38
I've just, I want to take it under consideration that we should move some of that back. 00:34:46
Out of. 00:34:50
Lit and back. 00:34:52
That supplemental fund? 00:34:55
My my suggestion I I I just really think that. 00:34:58
We are burdening. 00:35:01
The only thing I ask is that I'm managing multiple funds as is, so if you add another fun. 00:35:04
That is going to have. 00:35:09
Any type of funding, I'm now going to have to split that payroll. 00:35:12
Right now, some people are split amongst 3. 00:35:15
Fund it's going to possibly add it to a fourth and I was doing this to make it. 00:35:18
Clean. 00:35:22
Clear and then every year as we review. 00:35:23
The funds we can see what supplementals and doing that, but that's my only thing about splitting funding again into and this we 00:35:27
could just take under consideration I'm just. 00:35:32
Bringing that to everyone's attention that this is something we need to look at when we start talking about. 00:35:37
How we're going to have a balanced budget. 00:35:43
For 2027. 00:35:46
Because right now, we don't. 00:35:47
We've just talked. 00:35:49
I'm sorry. 00:35:55
No, you're fine. I'm just like I. 00:35:55
I just wanted to make sure I was. 00:35:58
I understand and you've done a great job. We've always tried to help the county we. 00:36:00
We do not take advantage of it. We have always supported ourselves. We don't come and ask. We've not really had a lot of. 00:36:06
Our our departments maintained about 27 people and we. 00:36:13
Do have workload studies that we've done through our state that does say that we do need more? 00:36:20
Officers, but we've always been. 00:36:25
Over what we have. So I just, we've always made it work and I just want to make sure that that's noted too that we've not come and 00:36:28
asked for anything that we did not absolutely need. 00:36:33
And at some point we do need to review that. 00:36:38
With the evidence based practices and everything coming down but. 00:36:40
For now I just want to get. 00:36:44
The funds utilize the way the state association. 00:36:45
So the way we talk about it, this is part of the growing pains of a. 00:36:48
Wilbur County, that's increasing in population. 00:36:55
And. 00:36:58
By the time the state mandates another court, we will be. 00:36:59
Adding. 00:37:03
Bodies in several different departments to keep up so. 00:37:04
It's definitely on the radar. 00:37:08
I think it's something that's going to be. 00:37:11
More of a long term. 00:37:16
And we're prepared. We've done we. 00:37:17
Are consistently going through policies making sure we're looking for new? 00:37:19
Ways to save money but we are always trying to look at the data and make sure that. 00:37:24
We're constantly changing and moving and we are doing our due diligence when it comes to making sure. 00:37:30
We are not. 00:37:35
Spending things on anything beyond what we should, but we also don't like to. 00:37:36
Think what We can't afford drug screens because we have to make sure. 00:37:41
South, right. 00:37:45
Absolutely any other. 00:37:48
Any other questions for Kelly? 00:37:50
No, Appreciate you, man. Thank you. We'll take it under advisement. Thank you. Obviously a great. 00:37:51
You always do a great job. 00:37:57
I think we do a great job. 00:38:00
Because everybody in there. 00:38:03
Can you tell Darius he's up when you leave? He's out in the hall. 00:38:07
Judge Flanagan says she wanted to be here for this, so she's on her way down, OK? 00:38:31
The only thing you were really asking for is a new position. 00:38:37
Through the. 00:38:40
Public wit for juvenile officer. 00:38:41
Project incomes almost the same as last year. 00:38:49
Haven't changed much. 00:38:52
Opioid position I'll rest, of course the cost of living increase. 00:38:56
On otherwise it's the same as last year. 00:38:59
Public safety lid. 00:39:03
We have the one position that the county is paying for. 00:39:04
Which is Micah and Judge Flanagan wants us to get a juvenile officer and I want to remind you that we cannot use grant money on. 00:39:07
Juveniles. So I've grown from these hate from most to my salaries. 00:39:15
It's just not allowed to be paid for for juvenile. 00:39:18
So let's. 00:39:22
An IDOC grant get the same amount of GET every year. Unfortunately never goes up, usually goes down. 00:39:25
So that's almost all going to salary. That's not going to salary, it's going towards. 00:39:31
Professional services, which is contracts. 00:39:35
So the issue right now is or the. 00:39:37
Big *** we have is for the juvenile position. 00:39:40
So the position is in the budget. I know there were some questions when we did the review about the ancillary furniture and stuff. 00:39:45
Did we get that result. So there was some new idea discussed here today with community corrections. I think the biggest question 00:39:51
was we don't typically budget supplies out of the public safety lid if we haven't date at that point. 00:39:57
And whether or not the. 00:40:04
The additional costs for one of these shared supplies. 00:40:08
Or or individualized to that percentage that there was equipment to purchase that was needed. As far as electronics, possibly a 00:40:11
desk. 00:40:15
It did not get included in this budget, mostly because I wanted the Council to. 00:40:21
Tell me whether or not it needed to be in there. 00:40:25
And then also with the. 00:40:28
Potential movement that's happening between now and the week and sometime next year it seems. 00:40:30
Do you want to see you? 00:40:40
Does the council want to talk to commissioners about whether or not furniture is gonna be purchased today? 00:40:41
Relocate some of the offices at Rice. 00:40:46
So that that's what's being purchased. There are a lot of questions basically. So are the supplies shared if not and yet there 00:40:48
needs to be budgetary for the juvenile officer. 00:40:52
Your computer needs to purchase. 00:40:59
Dry as well was the cost. 00:41:01
Additional 7000 maybe total correct? 00:41:05
For what? 00:41:09
For the first supply computer desks, I thought the computers all got bought out of the IT department. 00:41:11
That's for current computers that are part of an upgrade that's not in addition to. So Verizon is looking to add a position, which 00:41:18
means that's a computer that's not currently accounted for in this county. 00:41:23
I'm personally OK because. 00:41:30
With a, you know, public safety look because it's a one time. 00:41:32
It's not a recurring. 00:41:36
But I would expect. 00:41:38
Going forward that supplies are integrated in. 00:41:40
With the rest of your department. 00:41:44
Correct. 00:41:47
Yeah. 00:41:48
If our. 00:41:50
If I remember correctly, I think it was a $6700. 00:41:51
Does that sound right? 00:41:55
So you suggested putting that back in the budget? 00:42:00
I would. And then we need some. We need some questions answered. 00:42:04
Before then about. 00:42:08
New furniture, if that's the direction the commissioners are going. 00:42:12
I would put it in for now. 00:42:17
And kind of put a pin in it so we can. 00:42:18
Get a few things answered, I've got a few emails out. 00:42:24
To their side for some answers on some. 00:42:27
Interactual stuff as well, so. 00:42:29
Is that right? OK with that for now. 00:42:34
Sure. 00:42:41
Just to make you all aware there, I don't know if you all heard this, but there are troubles at the Clark County Detention Center. 00:42:43
To the extent that it may be. 00:42:52
A non entity at some point. 00:42:54
Given the councils. 00:42:59
Reluctance to fund that. I think it costs $2,000,000 a year for Clark County to fund that so. 00:43:02
I just. 00:43:09
Feel like that even weighs more towards this position because if we are to and I think it's. 00:43:10
I don't need a lot more, but I just want to let you know that. 00:43:17
It's even more important than ever to have this position because of that may come to pass. I'm not saying it will. 00:43:19
I know they're doing a lot to try to judge riggers doing a lot. 00:43:27
To try to keep it running, but I think it needs $100,000 in renovations and. 00:43:31
About this 2 million so. 00:43:36
That's a lot. 00:43:38
And the value of the detention center is the having a detention center and nobody knows what we have until it's gone so. 00:43:40
That just underlies why this is a really good investment, particularly at this time. 00:43:48
So you would propose sending juveniles? 00:43:59
To his office in lieu of. 00:44:02
I think they all that it's going to come to pass that. 00:44:04
The status needs to be more and more. 00:44:09
With the costs, I think to even keep that detention center afloat, right now we pay $200 a day for a juvenile and $300 a day for 00:44:12
one. That's my way to adult court. 00:44:18
And with that cost, it's still not covering. 00:44:25
So those costs? 00:44:29
May go up to. 00:44:30
You know, four and five, $600 a day. 00:44:31
And so, yes. 00:44:34
That would be this would be our fail safe because the closest detention center after that is Dearborn County or Johnson County or 00:44:35
relevant sometimes to take violent offenders and. 00:44:40
So we're really going to need. 00:44:46
The riots in this position. 00:44:48
Has any moves been made for the 2? 00:44:49
That we've had there. 00:44:52
Yes. 00:44:53
Sweet, thank you. 00:44:54
There have been. 00:44:55
I have personally seemed to remove several children to DOC to put one in DOC and put you on public attention and there have been 00:44:56
motions filed on the other one so I continue to. 00:45:04
Monitor the safety of the county while taking care of the fiscal part. So when I come with an ask, it's serious. And so to the 00:45:13
extent that you would fund this position plus the computer and other things. So I think it's an investment, a wise investment and 00:45:18
I assure you that. 00:45:23
Myself and Judge Brown are doing everything we can to do. 00:45:29
Be good stewards of. 00:45:33
The county, state, PM Our fiscal responsibility. 00:45:34
So just. 00:45:38
A little bit of background on that there's. 00:45:39
To use housed over there from Floyd County that. 00:45:42
Were eligible for. 00:45:46
Adult Court. 00:45:47
$300 a day, so between the two a 30 day stays $18,000. 00:45:50
Correct and so. 00:45:55
So that's that's one reason that this position has. 00:45:56
Not that it's gonna. 00:46:00
Save money, but it's gonna relieve some pressure. 00:46:01
There and hopefully. 00:46:04
Leads to better outcomes for. 00:46:07
By way of background, the the law changed in around 2019 that if the child was waived to adult court or charged directly as an 00:46:10
adult. 00:46:15
It used to be they won't put in our jail that is not statutory allowed anymore unless the prosecutor files a motion and the 00:46:21
hearing is held and it's. 00:46:25
Pretty rigorous standards to be to move them to the adult jail. 00:46:29
After much. 00:46:35
Mark breaking that I did I do believe that the the prosecutor has filed motions to move them to adult court. One has agreed to be 00:46:37
moved on the 24th as. 00:46:42
Stipulated and online is having a hearing on the. 00:46:47
On their 24%? 00:46:50
About that because when I started in the jail in 2015 we had 6. 00:46:54
Miles, we have just two or 15 years old, so I was, I hadn't delved into it much. I couldn't figure out why we were. 00:47:00
Housing. 00:47:06
And there's. 00:47:09
3 coming back for reviews that are at DLC on alternative sensing is when when they go to youth DOC. 00:47:10
They get to have a review when they turn. 00:47:18
Between 18 and 19 to decide if they come back home to any correction or go to prison. 00:47:20
And they come back for refused and expected and I are making sure that those. 00:47:25
People, now they're 18 and 19, are being sent directly to the jail and not to detention as well, so. 00:47:31
Thank you Know that I'm on it, Dale. And I picked up the torch with a prosecutor. 00:47:37
During his budget hearing, we're like, oh, by the way, we need you to look into this. 00:47:43
The thing is that it's it's. 00:47:48
There's a perception that you have to misbehave the detention to be moved to adult jail. That's only one of the prongs. The one 00:47:50
prong is the seriousness of the events. And both of these offenses are very, very serious. Oh, and the third child actually turns 00:47:59
18 this week. And I've already set that motion in in I already have the transport order drafted. And so we can move that. 00:48:07
Person. So it's actually I think all of them are being moved. 00:48:15
But it will be a bad bill for the commissioners before. 00:48:19
You know it's. 00:48:22
It's going to be, it's going to take the breath away. 00:48:23
And it just happens to be that time. 00:48:26
There's always. 00:48:29
Something on the horizon? 00:48:31
The lookout for any other questions. 00:48:32
For Darius. 00:48:34
All right, we will take it under advisement. 00:48:37
Thank you. 5 minutes. 00:48:39
Fast and break. 00:48:41
Yeah, we are. 00:48:43
A little hit up the schedule, so go right ahead. 00:48:44
Ohh, when will that be fun of this is? 00:48:47
We're not going to. When will that be finalized so that. 00:48:51
Hey, thank you so much for. 00:48:56
Let me be here. 00:49:02
Yeah, I can start. 00:49:05
I could explain what we've asked for or I could let you guys ask questions first. 00:49:06
So whatever is easiest for you all. 00:49:10
As we're looking at it, hit the highlights now. 00:49:12
Basically, uh. 00:49:16
In our budget, we've only asked for 3% in salaries, so. 00:49:16
We went with the admonition. 00:49:21
Of the. 00:49:23
Auditor on that? 00:49:24
Except for one. 00:49:25
On our 4th deputy, we did ask for an increase of 2500 + 3%. 00:49:26
We had an opportunity to hire. 00:49:32
Deputy prosecutor had about 8 to 10 years of experience. 00:49:35
And. 00:49:39
With that person was making in another county was 115. So we just tried to match that plus 3%. 00:49:40
It's well worth it. 00:49:46
To have experienced prosecutors, you want to train them. 00:49:48
You can insert immediately. They serve the county much better. 00:49:51
And then under computer supplies, we went from 7000 to 30. 00:49:54
Position. No, no, no. It's an old physician. 00:49:58
OK, yeah. And then on computer supplies, we went from 7 to 30. That's. 00:50:01
Acts on. I've covered it. 00:50:05
Last year and this year through diversion. 00:50:07
It's about 28,000. 00:50:09
At Dreams of the Count, so we were hoping to cover Axon. Axon is obviously with the sheriff's using. 00:50:12
Omni's using. 00:50:18
And what ISP uses Indian State Police? 00:50:19
So what it does is it's a storage. 00:50:22
For discovery. 00:50:24
Effectively it's endless discovery storage and with cell phones now. 00:50:25
We give out these hard drives 5 terabytes. 00:50:29
A piece those cost about. 00:50:32
300 to 500. 00:50:34
So in the long run. 00:50:36
We're hoping that sending links will be much more cost effective. 00:50:37
And then? 00:50:41
On do some subscription we raise that from 6500 to 15,000. 00:50:42
We did that because ultimately we're finding that. 00:50:47
It'll help with Axon. This is subscription based. 00:50:50
And then also. 00:50:53
We utilize that a lot for expert witnesses and other things. We maneuver that around. Our expert witnesses were out of control 00:50:55
because of Harvest Homecoming, especially this year. Well worth it. The guy got 109 years. 00:51:00
But. 00:51:06
It costs money. 00:51:06
And they charge us a lot for that. So we tried to make that more indicative of. 00:51:07
What it really is and seven, what we do. 00:51:11
Any discovery which were. 00:51:14
Was provided by free from the state is going away. 00:51:15
And so all that material will go into Axon and that's why we do need Axon. 00:51:19
And everything else, just like we said, is 3% by salaries and that's it. Child support is the same effectively except for the 3% 00:51:23
increase in salaries. 00:51:28
So the Axon is a. 00:51:33
One time purchase and then a subscription. 00:51:35
Yeah, it's a one time purchase which is $28,000 effectively. 00:51:37
And then we have subscriptions. 00:51:42
Another thing that's changed is, and you guys have probably heard of it, it's called A and ends with a. 00:51:44
I AI is now transforming. 00:51:51
And so we have LexisNexis. 00:51:53
We have other prosecutor AI which are designed for prosecutors which we are utilizing more it just. 00:51:56
It's in fact you can't. 00:52:02
Live and die by it, by any means. 00:52:04
But it helps research, helps kickstart things, and so we utilize it. We use every tool we can to keep our community safe. 00:52:06
And so it's been good. 00:52:14
So we're trying to adapt to that too. 00:52:15
But ultimately 3% on its salaries, not no new positions this year. 00:52:18
And we're asking for about 28,000 extra. 00:52:23
Which is for Axon effectively. 00:52:25
That'll cover most facts on, if not all of. 00:52:27
Some questions. 00:52:29
Christian side curiosity How's case locals universalized? 00:52:32
So queso hasn't changed much. 00:52:35
Last year. I always hate saying this, Matt. I'm going to say it. 00:52:37
Less violent. 00:52:41
The last two years, which has been good. 00:52:43
What we were seeing is a lot of youth gang activity coming over from Louisville. 00:52:45
And starting here. 00:52:49
That really became apparent in 2022. 00:52:51
To 2024. 00:52:54
Especially. 00:52:57
Crescendo, quite frankly, with hard some coming. 00:52:57
Because we found a lot of juvenile gangs were involved. 00:53:00
And we proved that. 00:53:03
Ever since then I've made it. 00:53:05
A2 year mission to destroy. 00:53:07
These hybrid. 00:53:09
Use gangs. We're effectively doing that. 00:53:10
They create violence, they just do because they're violent. 00:53:14
The culture that is established by gangs. 00:53:17
Whether it's a. 00:53:19
Juvenile gang or a. 00:53:21
More grown up gang. 00:53:23
Is based on violence. 00:53:25
It just is there. That's a culture that's viewed to people. They carry guns. 00:53:27
And we get younger people with guns that don't know what they're doing. 00:53:32
Bad things just inevitably happen. 00:53:36
Either they hurt themselves. 00:53:38
They hurt others they're against or innocent people. 00:53:39
And so we. 00:53:42
There's just a few keys in prosecution. 00:53:45
First, go after the people who commit the crimes because about. 00:53:48
5 to 8% of the people commit 90% of crimes. 00:53:51
And it's called 3 strikes. 00:53:55
I call it. Basically it's a visual offender. 00:53:57
You can those who continually commit the crimes of the people. 00:54:00
If you do that. 00:54:04
Right off the bat, you're good. 00:54:05
#2 you go after gangs. 00:54:06
One person's a problem. 00:54:08
Three or more people. 00:54:10
Are a bigger problem because then they have more reach, they can recruit others and they usually recruit kids. 00:54:12
And so the key is to destroy that too, if you can hit those two things. 00:54:18
You're always gonna have crime. Always tell people when they ask. 00:54:22
Why can't we eliminate crime? 00:54:26
You can't, because human nature is human nature. 00:54:27
Some all these out crime. 00:54:30
Always have people that do violence to others and try to hurt others. 00:54:31
But if we can minimize it by taking. 00:54:35
Affirmative steps and proactive. 00:54:37
Which we are. 00:54:39
Then we have seen. 00:54:40
A decrease in it. 00:54:43
Now be aware. 00:54:44
That will last forever. 00:54:46
There will come something new and we'll have to attack it. 00:54:47
But. 00:54:51
For now it's worked. 00:54:51
So good question. 00:54:56
Thanks man. 00:54:57
Sam, any other questions or? 00:54:58
Yeah, I appreciate it, Sam. 00:55:02
He stepped in a couple times to help us. 00:55:03
Appreciate his listen. 00:55:06
Denise, any thoughts or questions you have? 00:55:07
No, Danny, I'm done. 00:55:09
Dale. 00:55:15
Diana. Yep. 00:55:17
He does have two smaller budgets in his diversion fund and prosecutor Chapter 4, which judgment can kind of alluded to earlier 00:55:21
this morning that not really anything has changed in either one of those. They've stayed pretty flat. 00:55:28
And he, I just shout out to the prosecutor, he's always doing a good job of utilizing those. 00:55:36
The 48 obviously, as you know I can't use that for a lot. 00:55:45
I can only use it. 00:55:49
For established child support things, it's federal money basically. 00:55:50
But the diversion I can use for. 00:55:54
A lot and I try to. 00:55:56
Axon, we'll try to supplement. 00:55:57
Expert witnesses. 00:56:00
Then we we have an old fun. 00:56:01
And I can't remember the name of this. 00:56:03
Is it check deception fund that we barely use for? 00:56:05
Or it may be forfeiture, but we use that for our fuel, I think. 00:56:08
To cover our fuel costs for the investigators so. 00:56:12
And we'll still do that. 00:56:15
Anything else? 00:56:19
All right. We'll take it under advisement. Thank you. 00:56:20
Mr. Lorch, you are up. 00:56:24
Good morning. Good morning. 00:56:33
Are we having fun yet? Absolutely. 00:56:34
Favorite day of the year? 00:56:37
So. 00:56:45
I don't have a memo I think outlining kind of a lot of the changes that was it was a while back and based on line one at this 00:56:52
point, but. 00:56:56
After discussing it with with the Millers and with the short. 00:57:03
I was about to remove the. 00:57:08
Chief Deputy projecting that we are. 00:57:11
Time, which I understand. 00:57:13
May not be optimal timing for the county to approve that at this point, but. 00:57:15
We don't want to keep raising attitudes that you think it's a critical operational coverage point that our officership. 00:57:21
I have planned for at some point. 00:57:28
Whenever the tiles align as it was. 00:57:30
Otherwise, our budget. 00:57:34
But not saying that much. 00:57:37
The man changes came. 00:57:41
The anticipated thought of the matching. 00:57:43
With the practical it includes the tuning they were doing a 3% way. 00:57:46
If that did not happen or that would change in some way, we would also attract. 00:57:52
Or to reflect whatever actually happens at that point. 00:57:57
And that accounted for the. 00:58:02
14 have been included in our budget. 00:58:05
The one thing that we moved over from the supplemental fund? 00:58:08
But last year I started a. 00:58:14
Part time partial contract for one of our. 00:58:18
Ten public defender. We were hitting some kid loads. 00:58:21
Limitation problems up there. 00:58:26
But for the book a supplemental fund who killed them to make sure. 00:58:28
It was an ongoing need, but. 00:58:33
Trying to come over to the general fund with it. 00:58:36
And it had. 00:58:39
Been in need, still ongoing SO. 00:58:41
We've sought to move. 00:58:44
Contract basically to our general fund. 00:58:46
And I think we're. 00:58:50
Gonna have to aband. 00:58:51
That contract. 00:58:53
On the supplemental side, to meet our needs as well, but. 00:58:54
We're doing everything we can with new or unanticipated expenses. 00:58:57
Fund that fund without overlooked burden in it. 00:59:02
So other notable inclusions. 00:59:06
Find the cost of software. 00:59:10
But again, we we kind of. 00:59:12
Pay the first year to my supplemental fund to cast it out. Make sure something we can use and. 00:59:14
And the benefits of two ads and. 00:59:21
And the top where we've gotten had been. 00:59:23
Beneficial and thought. 00:59:26
That is those problems that we were looking at because we were looking at purchasing bulk. 00:59:29
Data the discover dodge the long term, which is a requirement in our office. 00:59:34
But frankly, it's gotten pretty expensive. 00:59:40
In recent times. 00:59:44
But anyway, we were able to integrate that into some of our software. 00:59:46
Licensing that we use so. 00:59:50
That'll help open. 00:59:52
Again, moving that over from a supplemental fund to the general fund causes an inquiry. 00:59:54
And others would office supplies with the minimum including. 01:00:00
So do you think? 01:00:10
The dog laid out. 01:00:16
Pretty well in that memo. I don't know if there's any specific questions. I could go into it for any of you. 01:00:19
But what's the what's the number of the supplemental fund? 01:00:28
OK. 01:00:33
1200. 01:00:35
Can you? Let's see the total. 01:00:46
So it went from. 01:00:52
It went from 1:21 to 1:00. What's the? 01:00:58
Cash balance and that account. 01:01:01
Supplemental. 01:01:04
Wow, Congrats. 01:01:09
Not much. 01:01:16
61,000 I want to tell you around 3000 or so a month, a month it's more. 01:01:18
Kind of a. 01:01:27
Moving kind of so a lot of times we. 01:01:28
Sort of an upper limit of what we feel like that fund might sustain we. 01:01:31
Some most years we don't touch much other. 01:01:37
That the contractual legal services that we typically have to dip into by. 01:01:40
Knock on wood, we not have to Lithia to follow yet due to an increase in the general fund last year that helped absorb that. 01:01:46
And anyway. 01:01:56
Mike, I don't have the current balance on hand. 01:01:58
Yeah, I'm good. 01:02:09
Anything else for Mr. Lorch? 01:02:14
All right, we will take it under advisement. 01:02:19
All right. Thank you all. Thank you. Reach out anytime if you have any questions. 01:02:21
Gloria, I can talk on Veterans Affairs if you want. 01:02:30
Tony sent an e-mail on that. 01:02:33
OK. 01:02:36
OK. 01:02:38
We sure can. 01:02:42
Morning. 01:02:51
So. 01:02:59
What we want to start with? 01:03:00
OK. 01:03:08
Sure. 01:03:13
OK, I don't even know if I have. Yes, I do. Hang on. 01:03:16
You caught me off the guard. I was. 01:03:24
Pairing. 01:03:26
OK, here we go. 01:03:31
OK. 01:03:36
I think I had my enhanced access. 01:03:40
And it is. 01:03:45
Pretty much the same, but that's money that I collect from. 01:03:47
Selling subscriptions. 01:03:50
But I have to pay back a percentage to the company that. 01:03:53
Monitors it. 01:03:58
So it's not a. 01:03:59
Excess spending or anything and we cover it all through our office. 01:04:02
It's no money out of. 01:04:07
County General. 01:04:09
Her other one would be her perpetuation fund that she covers to her deputies out of Yes. 01:04:12
And she does that. 01:04:17
As a boon to the county, county cannot actually use this money without an ordinance from How's the health in that is that? 01:04:20
That I know. 01:04:28
A year so ago, we were. 01:04:30
It's we've got 200 and that's a little over 200,000 and I spend out of that monthly. 01:04:32
Not just for the salaries, just to run our office and we are going to have some expenses if and when the move happens. 01:04:39
I don't know if I can use that. 01:04:47
Or not. 01:04:49
But I have some questions about that as well. But we can cross that bridge when it happens. 01:04:51
What kind of expenses? What? Well. 01:04:57
To be able to move all those books. 01:04:59
And get them in the right order. We may have to have new cabinets, I don't know. 01:05:01
And it could be a large expense like. 01:05:06
A couple 100. 01:05:09
If we had to. 01:05:10
Replace those cabinets there. 01:05:11
65 years old. 01:05:14
I'm looking for a place to store some of. 01:05:19
The older books so that I don't have to take as many. 01:05:22
But there's just not much option and people still, believe it or not, get in when. 01:05:25
Get into when they have 100 year search. 01:05:30
Yeah. 01:05:32
I know. 01:05:35
Mostly commercial. 01:05:36
I guess my question is. 01:05:38
There's a man sitting in blue. Wouldn't. Wouldn't that be the commissioners responsibility? 01:05:40
Are you remotely? I don't know. We've not crossed that bridge yet. So I've just been kind of. 01:05:43
Watching and seeing what the balance is. 01:05:52
Hi. 01:05:57
So we we have a. 01:05:59
We will be exhausting the ARP funds COVID monies with billing. 01:06:01
Construction and upgrade and renovations. 01:06:07
There's still $1.5 million being held in the van. 01:06:10
Currently that we have access to for the 4th floor renovations, so I'm assuming. 01:06:14
That if you guys approve it or evaluate and improve it, those funds can be used for. 01:06:19
That that move process so. 01:06:26
That'd be good because we were paying a larger portion of our salaries and. 01:06:30
Benefits. But we we just can't do that. It's not. 01:06:35
Increasing its decreasing. 01:06:38
No, it wasn't sustainable the first year they did it. 01:06:41
You know so. 01:06:47
Sorry about that, but it's still. 01:06:50
The significant amount. 01:06:52
And more money this year has gone into the county general than in the past. 01:06:53
So that was a good plus. 01:07:01
Don't. I don't think I have any other fun to go over. 01:07:06
Yeah, other than I don't know what we're asking. 01:07:12
On the. 01:07:15
Continuing Education. 01:07:18
I know it's all lumped together. 01:07:20
OK. That's good. We all stayed within it really well this year. Do you know what that balance is? 01:07:22
Because we pull that into. 01:07:29
Is it gonna? 01:07:33
For sustainable, yeah, OK. 01:07:34
Good, that's it. 01:07:38
OK. 01:07:43
So really. 01:07:49
The only thing coming out is. 01:07:50
County General is the salaries. 01:07:52
Of myself and my chief deputy. 01:07:55
We are down to three employees. 01:07:59
Anything else for Lois? 01:08:08
We will take it under advisement. 01:08:11
Thank you. Thank you. All right. 01:08:13
Nope. 01:08:26
Nope, you're you're. 01:08:28
Perfectly fine. 01:08:29
So Danny, did, uh, Tony give you? He did. 01:08:37
OK. 01:08:41
Any highlights? 01:08:49
Just hit the highlights. 01:08:50
There's. I kept everything the same except I'm adding or I'm asking to add a line item. 01:08:53
For. 01:09:00
Promotional items. 01:09:02
This year we have a new director. 01:09:04
He's big on. 01:09:08
Us being out in the community. 01:09:11
And which? 01:09:14
We kind of have. 01:09:17
Been a little. 01:09:19
In the past. 01:09:22
Since I've taken over. 01:09:23
We do harvest homecoming now. 01:09:26
My office I'm the Co chair of a suicide coalition that we founded. 01:09:29
Called Sewing for Heroes for Veterans and 1st Responders for suicide prevention. 01:09:36
However, we don't have any funds at all. 01:09:44
For anything that has our name on it, Floyd County Veterans Service Office, except our business cards. 01:09:49
Which we do have our. 01:09:59
We have. 01:10:02
QR code of an old lady that QR code. So we do have that now on the back of our card. 01:10:05
And on our Sewing for Heroes card, which links to. 01:10:14
All of our veteran owned businesses that we know and things like that, but we don't have anything like. 01:10:20
That we can hand out. 01:10:27
I've been doing car shows lately. 01:10:29
The the the governor would like for us to be in the community at least twice a month. 01:10:32
I it's. 01:10:42
I'm trying. 01:10:44
But you know, there's only so many car shows I go to because I'm not that interested in cars. I'm in a Jeep club, so I do know 01:10:46
people. So I. 01:10:51
We're getting there, but we're not quite there yet. 01:10:57
But I would just like to have something I know $1000. 01:11:00
There's a lot to you all, and it's not quite a lot to make something that has our name on it, but. 01:11:04
It's a start, so that's the only thing I'm asking for. Everything else stays the same. 01:11:11
So what kind of promotional items are you talking about? 01:11:17
I'm sorry. 01:11:22
Are you talking about, Well, I don't know, I have coffee mugs, stickers. 01:11:24
Well, if we did mugs. 01:11:28
I could make those at home. I, I, I could buy them mugs at wholesale. My husband does. He couldn't do that at home. We did make 01:11:30
some to give away on veteran's day one year, so that's a possibility. 01:11:38
That has our names on them. 01:11:47
Don't smack me down here, but. 01:11:49
Would ask most of us sit in this table. 01:11:51
Have ran a campaign. 01:11:53
$1000 don't buy much merch. 01:11:54
Should we make that a little bit more? I'm just asking. 01:11:57
I was kind of. 01:12:02
Thinking the same thing but since it's the first year. 01:12:03
And you're kind of trying to get a feel for what works and what does it. I mean, it's. 01:12:05
Yeah, I mean, it's a good place to start. 01:12:09
That's what I was. Are you OK with the $1000? 01:12:12
And like I said, my husband does all of that. 01:12:17
So it, you know, I, I wrangle him into a lot of things, so. 01:12:21
You know, if I couldn't find things wholesale and have him do his art stuff then. 01:12:28
We'll see. 01:12:35
But even with pins or. 01:12:36
Lanyards or things like that, Something cheap. 01:12:38
I'm here to find a market so. 01:12:43
OK. All right. Well then we'll leave it at that for now and we'll see how. 01:12:46
2027 goes and. 01:12:50
Yeah, hopefully he won't ask me to do more than two a month. 01:12:52
I'm getting old. 01:12:57
Do you have a committee of veterans that would help you out? 01:12:59
Service organizations that they be willing to help out. 01:13:04
We're getting there. We're just starting, but our coalition is picking up. We do coffee. 01:13:09
Coffee Chunk. 01:13:16
Out at Northside and so we've got a great the. 01:13:17
It's we all get together, so that's. 01:13:22
So we're, we're getting, we're building our brand. 01:13:26
Well, good and I appreciate it. I personally. 01:13:29
I appreciate everything you do that. 01:13:32
I know my brother. 01:13:34
Wound up going to your office and was very helping helpful in getting this benefit. 01:13:36
Veterans benefits that you should be getting, yeah. 01:13:40
And I just for one, we should take care of our veterans. 01:13:43
At all times, I agree. 01:13:46
So I appreciate it. 01:13:48
We we're definitely been busy with this property types. 01:13:52
Thing that's going on, aren't we dying? 01:13:56
It's been fun, yeah. 01:13:59
It's been busy. You're not using that word, not using that word well. 01:14:03
Well, well, well. 01:14:09
I don't use it that often that. 01:14:12
And I'm doing all the home visits for our home balance property tax, so I have to go out and. 01:14:14
Let's sign their papers for them, so I just. 01:14:20
I I did my best so. 01:14:26
Well, we thank you for the work that you do and we'll take. 01:14:28
Your budget under advisement. Thank you. 01:14:31
Steve Hallway. 01:14:36
Come on in here. 01:14:41
Hey, Steve, you can tell them there's seats in here if they want to come in and sit down. 01:14:46
Thanks, Steve. Appreciate it. You're up. Don't sit down. Come on. 01:14:53
Europe. 01:14:57
You're going early. 01:15:00
Wow. 01:15:01
Steve Burke's Ford County Treasurer, here to present the 2027 budget. 01:15:03
Do you have any questions? 01:15:08
Can you just hit the highlights? 01:15:11
The only thing that changed in this budget is raises. Yes, it increases. 01:15:12
Would you like any explanations? 01:15:24
At all. 01:15:27
No. 01:15:30
We're good. 01:15:32
Anything for Mr. Burks. 01:15:39
All in favor say aye. 01:15:41
We'll take, we'll take it under advisement. 01:15:43
Thank you, Sir. Thank you. 01:15:46
Good try. 01:15:48
Surveyors next. 01:15:58
Matthew, if you. 01:16:01
Step right up, Johnny. Don't sit down. 01:16:09
You're early. 01:16:13
We are too so. 01:16:13
We'll just keep this ball rolling. 01:16:15
Yeah. 01:16:17
Everybody, hi. 01:16:18
Is going with it. 01:16:20
Mr. Greenport's budget pretty much stayed flat except for the increases that were requested. 01:16:24
Nothing else changed. 01:16:29
Yeah, so we just looked at the auditors numbers. 01:16:34
She had sent out some recommendations on salaries. 01:16:37
And so we just. 01:16:41
We went with that. 01:16:43
As you all know. 01:16:44
For my chief deputy to get a raise. 01:16:46
Danny and I spoke about this a little bit. I have to get a raise. 01:16:49
I'm not asking for a raise. 01:16:52
But unfortunately with the 85% rule, I. 01:16:54
So a little bit unorthodox, but. 01:16:57
What I was proposing. 01:16:59
Was take $10,000 of my raise and transfer it over to my other employee. 01:17:01
So I know that's a little bit. 01:17:07
Kind of light line item, sort of jumbling, but. 01:17:09
That's what we're looking to do. 01:17:12
Yeah, they're. 01:17:13
I think we had a lot of. 01:17:14
Legal questions about that so. 01:17:16
Yeah, we appreciate the sentiment. 01:17:19
But we don't disagree. 01:17:23
Yeah, that would just create a. 01:17:28
What you do is you manage your business. 01:17:30
What's that? I'm sorry, what you do with your money is your business there. So we're trying to get around that. 01:17:32
Certainly, yeah, we we appreciate the. 01:17:41
The sentiment behind it, like we said, but I. 01:17:44
Any other questions for? 01:17:48
Not monetary house is cornerstone project going. 01:17:50
It's great. 01:17:53
It's continuing to move along. 01:17:54
We do have an online map. 01:17:57
Showing the areas that the corners are being recovered. 01:17:58
And that is continuing to grow. 01:18:01
Officer, you got, you got a time frame for that. 01:18:03
Eternally. So, you know, it's, it's kind of. 01:18:06
At the mercy of the budget #1. 01:18:10
How much we can do? 01:18:13
And really? 01:18:14
Corners, you know, once you. 01:18:15
Let's say you actually do perpetuate all the corners in the county. 01:18:17
Then it's a matter of, well, let's go. 01:18:21
Back in. 01:18:23
Re perpetuate to see, you know, 'cause. 01:18:24
Things change. 01:18:26
You know, things getting knocked out. So it's really. 01:18:27
Just a. 01:18:29
Ongoing process. Ongoing process. 01:18:30
I'm just always amazed that you've stated before that. 01:18:34
Some of the old 200 year old surveys both rods and chains is dead on. 01:18:37
That that amazes me. 01:18:42
Me too. 01:18:43
Continually, I mean, just, it's amazing. 01:18:44
Yeah, there was. There were some serious surveyors. 01:18:47
There were also some not so serious ones. 01:18:49
The guys that were good and gals rarely but. 01:18:52
They were good. 01:18:54
Find those rods every week. 01:18:58
When I'm out in the field. 01:19:00
So the corner, I guess when it's because. 01:19:05
Deeds fascinating when it. 01:19:07
Got all these numbers. 01:19:09
Degrees. 01:19:10
To the original point of beginning, that's the corner that you're talking. 01:19:12
Right. Well, it depends on how it was described. I mean, we could, we could, I could, we could talk about this all day. We got a 01:19:15
couple minutes just. 01:19:19
Fascinating. Sure. So. 01:19:23
If you're in a section and not like in town, everything's been planted out, so it might be like a lot. 01:19:25
In the block. 01:19:30
So it wouldn't necessarily be a. 01:19:31
Kind of a point of beginning description, but if you're out. 01:19:33
In in the county. 01:19:35
You know, and you're in a section or. 01:19:37
Or kind of toward the easterly part of the county or you're in Grant? 01:19:39
You know you may be starting at a grant corner. 01:19:42
Or a section corner and that's where those. 01:19:45
Descriptions come from. 01:19:47
You know, starting at the northeast corner of section 6, it was called meets and bounds. 01:19:48
I said. It just fascinates me. 01:19:53
Yeah. 01:19:55
All good. We'll take it under advisement. OK. Thank you. Thank you. Have a nice day. 01:20:01
Matthew Matthew presenting the Corners budget. 01:20:15
I'm bringing down the budget quite a bit. 01:20:18
We're not buying vehicles this year, obviously, so that cuts. 01:20:22
Quite a bit of money. 01:20:25
We are trying to introduce a new position. 01:20:26
For a new deputy. 01:20:29
With our current load, we're kind of stretched a little thin. 01:20:30
And I think another deputy would be perfect. 01:20:34
Looking at the surrounding counties of similar population. 01:20:37
We're under salary and we're under deputy count. 01:20:40
I think I presented it to Tony and Danny. 01:20:44
But looking at the numbers for the the counties that I actually have deputies count for. 01:20:48
Their average deputy count is 7. 01:20:53
We currently have 4. 01:20:56
So if I can at least bring that up by one, that helps. 01:20:58
A ton plus looking at their salaries, I know we did a little bit of. 01:21:01
Increase in salaries with my salary in. 01:21:06
My deputies. 01:21:08
Were drastically under the surrounding counties with them averaging. 01:21:10
I think from the Indiana fact book. 01:21:15
Putting them around. 01:21:19
$34,647. 01:21:21
I was sitting at 25. 01:21:24
I mean. 01:21:26
I'm not really as concerned about my my salary, but my my deputies. 01:21:27
Working them just twice a week. 01:21:31
For a month. 01:21:33
That puts their salary. 01:21:35
Under minimum wage. 01:21:36
So it's a little. 01:21:38
Crazy me. 01:21:39
The other big? 01:21:41
Things are, I mean, we've decreased a bunch of stuff. 01:21:42
Professional services come down $2000. 01:21:45
Miscellaneous services like. 01:21:48
Just got rid of. 01:21:50
Transportation we brought down a lot. 01:21:51
Us doing our own transportation has helped a lot. 01:21:54
We're able to get in and out of scenes a lot quicker. 01:21:57
And. 01:22:00
Get people transported over to the the morgue. 01:22:01
We did put our vehicle line on them at 12,000. 01:22:05
Looking at. 01:22:08
Not buying a vehicle this year or this coming year but the following year and try to keep it on rotation. 01:22:09
And just kind of have a vehicle continually within the office. 01:22:15
So we're not at the point. 01:22:18
Where we're spending a lot of money trying to. 01:22:20
My vehicles. 01:22:22
So this was a suggestion to Matthew for a. 01:22:24
Kind of a revolving fund there, so the budget doesn't stay low and then spike up for vehicles. So. 01:22:30
The The 12,000. 01:22:36
Thomas is a placeholder for Budget. 01:22:40
To try to. 01:22:43
Keep it as level. 01:22:46
As we can. 01:22:48
And Matthew did a very good job of the research, as he was saying the surrounding counties and likewise. 01:22:49
Population. 01:22:55
Counties. Counties. 01:22:56
How they're working? 01:22:58
Their situations and how many? 01:23:00
Deputies that they have. 01:23:02
So just trying to step this up a little bit and add one person. 01:23:06
Um. 01:23:11
And these physicians don't? 01:23:14
Around the counties. 01:23:18
So I mean, I was looking at just based on the fact book that. 01:23:19
Diana sent off. 01:23:22
I compared it to our coroners fact book on deputy counties. 01:23:24
So I was looking at like Boone County. 01:23:28
It's not surrounding guys. It's comparable. 01:23:30
Comparable population. 01:23:31
Counties. Yeah. Do you know how many our surrounding counties have our deputies? 01:23:33
I'm not sure, let me see. 01:23:39
The only one I really have is like Warren County. 01:23:43
Or work counties are not work. 01:23:46
I think they have 8 deputies. 01:23:49
So you don't have like, Clark Harrison? 01:23:51
Shoot down. Do you have the big? 01:23:54
Big book here. 01:23:57
That's all right. 01:23:58
Yes, I mean I can send you off the corners fact book too for you to look at. 01:23:59
Prior to actually solidifying any other budget stuff. 01:24:04
I know Clark has. 01:24:07
A lot more. 01:24:09
Harrison's about the same, just because of population. Yeah. And it all kind of depends on pay structure as well, some of those 01:24:10
counties. 01:24:13
Pay their deputies per case. 01:24:17
For autopsies, transportation, stuff like that. 01:24:19
Where we're paying our deputies a set wage. 01:24:22
So they're open to hire. 01:24:25
More than us, sometimes. 01:24:27
So it kind of comes down to differences like that. 01:24:29
I will mention too. 01:24:34
I kept my office supplies is at $500. 01:24:36
With us moving into a new building, I've been told that. 01:24:40
There's no real. 01:24:43
Money set aside for us. 01:24:44
Outfitting the office, essentially. 01:24:46
So I thought I'd kind of bring that to you guys and. 01:24:48
What I should be looking at? Or if I need to move that number or if we should approach that here in the? 01:24:52
The coming months. 01:24:57
With us moving over there. 01:24:59
On your vehicles, do you plan on buying 2 or are you going to offset these vehicles like one, one year one? 01:25:04
Yeah, I don't plan on buying. 01:25:10
Two at a time. How long? How many years you think he's been the last? 01:25:12
I'm hoping like I mean. 01:25:15
5 to 10. 01:25:17
I mean at least long enough that we get good use out of it and then we maybe we have enough money to. 01:25:19
Trade them all. I mean actually get money for them. 01:25:23
And I mean I'm always open to advise on. 01:25:27
Kind of the rotation schedule. 01:25:30
Talking to everyone about that, OK. 01:25:32
Go back to the office. Are you getting your gaming space right? I am gaining space so I should have enough room for another desk. 01:25:36
Which is kind of what I talked to Nick Creevy a little bit about. 01:25:42
We do bring a lot of families into our office when we're discussing results and all that. 01:25:46
And like to have a clean professional space to talk to them. 01:25:51
A lot of times right now over at Pineview, this. 01:25:55
Not super possible. It's. 01:25:57
Very messy in terms of like storage and all that. 01:25:59
So we're just trying to provide. 01:26:03
Provide a clean. 01:26:05
Comfortable space for families because a lot of times when we're talking to them, it's. 01:26:08
Horrible, horrible news and I just want to. 01:26:12
Give them the best. 01:26:14
We can handle it two ways. 01:26:21
We can add it in here. 01:26:23
I was. 01:26:25
I was a little dismayed to learn that the second floor. 01:26:26
Got cleared out. 01:26:29
Of everything pretty much other than what people could grab and say. 01:26:31
No, we want to keep that. 01:26:35
At the time that things were being carried out. 01:26:37
It was my understanding that that furniture was only. 01:26:40
A year or two old when we purchased the building and now it's gone. 01:26:43
Yeah, I think a lot of us went to the dumpsters. 01:26:47
Now it's in the dumpster. 01:26:49
It's really, yeah. 01:26:51
I don't know. 01:26:53
Who made that call or what? 01:26:54
But our options today are to increase. 01:26:55
Office supply line or the office furniture line or. 01:27:01
Take it up with commissioners and health department. 01:27:06
On say, can you take it out of the health department? Well. 01:27:08
I don't know if there's going to be anything leftover. 01:27:11
To help outfit? I doubt it. 01:27:14
But my personal preference would be to leave it flat at this point and then. 01:27:19
What you're anticipated move in date there? 01:27:24
You know they Charlie. 01:27:27
You know anticipated moving date. 01:27:32
But beat Stand. 01:27:35
I mean, are we a month away? We think. 01:27:39
At least by the end of the year. 01:27:41
We're over behind you right now. 01:27:45
Did they already take your furn? 01:27:47
Take a look and probably. 01:27:52
But they but they took your frame track. 01:28:00
We thought of our furniture behind you, but it's. 01:28:03
One rinky **** desk. 01:28:05
Yeah, they took the furniture out of. 01:28:07
Out of the new building on Grant Line. 01:28:10
Oh, the second floor. 01:28:13
I mean, I'm more than happy to just leave it flat right now and just kind of call you guys later in the year and we're gonna kind 01:28:21
of approach it at that time. 01:28:24
I think we need to do that. 01:28:29
And then get some more answers on. 01:28:31
Where we sit on that? 01:28:34
Renovation budget and. 01:28:36
What happened and? 01:28:39
So yeah, that works for me. Yeah. We're not going to let you sit on milk crates. 01:28:43
I can at least get milk crates. 01:28:49
We'll take it under advise though. 01:28:52
Yeah, I definitely think they need another position. I know y'all stay busy. I appreciate that. 01:28:56
Yeah, and. 01:29:04
You know the plan that they put in place with transporting and everything has worked out. 01:29:06
So that's a positive and. 01:29:12
We're back to. 01:29:16
Floyd County only. 01:29:17
Now, uh. 01:29:18
Yes, Scott County's straightened out. 01:29:19
Yes, quite a bit straightened out. 01:29:21
So. 01:29:23
So we're just concentrating on our. 01:29:26
On our county now. 01:29:29
Any other questions for Matthew? 01:29:31
No, thank you. All right, we'll take it under advisement. Thank you. 01:29:33
Assessors Office. 01:29:45
Good morning. Good morning. 01:29:47
Terry's on vacations. I'm here for him today. 01:29:49
So on our. 01:29:56
County assessor budget the pita boa and the. 01:29:58
Disclosure fee fund, we did not have any change. 01:30:02
Other than salaries. 01:30:06
On on the reassessment fund. 01:30:08
We did ask to increase postage and printing. 01:30:12
The Form 11 cost print. 01:30:15
In the postage, of course, has gone up. 01:30:17
And then we were looking at possibly. 01:30:21
Purchasing a new software. 01:30:24
It goes along with the Eagle view. 01:30:26
It's called Change Finder. 01:30:29
We have a terrible time with. 01:30:31
Permitting throughout the county when. 01:30:33
People build houses, barns, anything like that and this change Finder? 01:30:35
Works with the flyovers each year and it. 01:30:40
It's a software that shows you any kind of change to a structure. 01:30:43
So. 01:30:48
That would help. 01:30:49
In that area that. 01:30:50
1st. 01:30:52
Initial cost that year is 32,500, so that's what we increase that software budget. 01:30:53
Pretty cool software. 01:31:12
It is. 01:31:13
Yes, you said just change the structure because we're not. 01:31:20
We're not doing concrete anymore, correct? Correct. Yeah. 01:31:24
Yeah, what's that phone number? 01:31:29
And it's the 1188. 01:31:32
She's got the blue. I want to see what the fund balance is. 01:31:37
No, that's right. 01:31:53
Next. 01:31:55
It's got $490,000 in it. 01:32:10
Yeah. Can we use that? 01:32:15
Ballot for other things. 01:32:18
Not in the reassessment fund, I don't believe that goes towards the reassessment which is paid out and. 01:32:20
Monthly and. 01:32:27
But we can buy software with it. 01:32:29
I'm sorry, but we can buy software with it. 01:32:31
Yeah, within the. 01:32:34
Yeah, but we can't supplement any of the. 01:32:38
Salaries that. 01:32:41
The I knew they did the one. 01:32:44
And part time, wish part time is out there as well, so they're already supplementing what they can with that. 01:32:47
Legally or. 01:32:54
Financially. 01:32:56
Legally. Legally. 01:32:58
Because it's. 01:33:03
I know it's probably going to be a lot. 01:33:06
What'd you say? 01:33:08
I said I think it'll be interesting to see what revenue comes from that software. Yeah, I'm anxious to see that too. 10 new houses 01:33:09
would pay for. 01:33:13
This software and I've already found eight that didn't have permits. 01:33:17
Since October, so. 01:33:22
Well, that's will that go back in the reassessment fund? 01:33:23
It'll go into the general fund. General fund. 01:33:28
You found houses being built without a permit. 01:33:33
House is being built. How in the world do you do that? 01:33:37
That's just houses. We find barns. 01:33:40
Scrotches. 01:33:43
That's fascinating. 01:33:47
Kind of sounds like. 01:33:49
No bids, No 1099. 01:33:51
Type of stuff going on. 01:33:53
Yeah. 01:33:56
Are any other any other questions for the assessors office? 01:34:00
We will take it under advisement. Thank you. Thank you. 01:34:07
Leah, you? Yep, you can step right up. 01:34:12
Huh, You can't do Every year there's someone that to introduce our I'd say new office manager, but she's been here almost a year. 01:34:17
But Darlene was here for 20 and retired. 01:34:26
She might be in my place sometimes. Turning Casey. 01:34:30
So nothing major on our budget, but I am very glad that I asked her to take one last look. 01:34:35
And she found three salaries that were incorrect on the budget templates sent to us. They didn't match. Wow. So the assistant 01:34:40
director. 01:34:45
We need to change for 2027 to 68543. 01:34:49
And then? 01:34:54
Sorry, this is the director needs to change to what 68543? 01:34:58
That would reflect the 3% raise. 01:35:05
And then? 01:35:08
The therapist and the residential director. 01:35:09
What's the residential? They both need to be 62228. 01:35:14
Yes. 01:35:23
Thank you. 01:35:32
Other than that, there's nothing major. 01:35:35
Any update on? 01:35:46
Partnerships. 01:35:47
We are still working on it. I've been meeting a lot with a real estate attorney who's been donating his time. 01:35:49
And we've requested title documents for Pine View. 01:35:58
We have been invited to apply for a Lilly grant that we're hoping will help with this process. 01:36:03
We got a planning grant that we've got. 01:36:09
The attorneys donating his time, but. 01:36:13
He has to be associated with an office in order to be able to file certain paperwork, so we got money for that. We have money for 01:36:15
two people to help us with fundraising, including river Hills and working with an architect on some drawings, so. 01:36:23
Will be applying for the Lilly grant in March and we're hoping to get some funding. 01:36:31
Before then. 01:36:35
It's good progress. 01:36:36
Yeah. Good job. Yeah, Thanks. Yeah. 01:36:38
I always like to. 01:36:41
Bring it up just to make sure the. 01:36:42
Oh yeah, the snowball is getting bigger. 01:36:44
You know, we're still doing it, yeah. 01:36:46
All right. Any other questions for the youth shelter? 01:36:48
No. All right. We'll take it under advisement. Thank you. Thank you. 01:36:51
Do we want to take the? 01:36:58
10 minutes. 01:36:59
You want to go ahead and go. 01:37:03
Yeah, OK. 01:37:06
So good morning everyone. You'll notice that my budget is about $6000 less than it was last year. 01:37:12
That's primarily due to loud software costs that Diana graciously agreed to cover under her budget. So the same time, it's just 01:37:21
easier that way. It's awesome for me. 01:37:27
So the only thing that. 01:37:36
Is not the same is the 3%. 01:37:39
Other than that, everything stays flat and stays the same. 01:37:43
Pretty helpful. 01:37:47
Any questions for me? 01:37:50
No, correct. We'll take it under advisement. 01:37:52
Thank you for coming in. 01:37:58
Thank you. 01:37:59
All right, let's take. 01:38:00
Our next one is EMA at 10 after, but we'll take 10 or. 01:38:02
15 minutes and. 01:38:06
They get here early. We'll. 01:38:07
Pick back up. 01:38:09
All right, Kent. 01:38:11
Come on up. 01:38:13
Good morning. I think still, still morning. 01:38:16
What you want me to? 01:38:24
That's what changed, other than salaries. 01:38:28
Uh, change. Other than salaries, the big change is the training line item. 01:38:31
That you'll see in there and. 01:38:39
We had a request by the commissioners to. 01:38:41
Enhance. 01:38:45
Improve. Not really improve. I guess enhance our. 01:38:46
Program. 01:38:50
So they've asked for. 01:38:51
Me to. 01:38:53
Recruit some more volunteers. 01:38:57
And with recruiting is training. 01:39:00
And you can't ask a volunteer. 01:39:03
To take training and go places. 01:39:06
Without paying for it. 01:39:10
And maybe paying for their travel expenses. So I mean, it's a big ask and. 01:39:13
I'm, you know, put it in there. There's some of these trainings that are there. 01:39:19
They are. 01:39:25
Asking them to take or requiring is some of them in. 01:39:26
Emmitsburg, Maryland. 01:39:31
Some of them here in the state of Indiana and some of them online. 01:39:34
So obviously the online trainings aren't going to cost anything. 01:39:37
But those other trainings are, you know, if they have to drive to. 01:39:41
Indianapolis, OR. 01:39:44
Kokomo or somewhere else in the state? 01:39:46
To take a training. 01:39:50
Without and take a day off. 01:39:52
From work. 01:39:54
Miss Big Ask. I don't. 01:39:57
Can can you kind of tell us what these people are going to be used for? 01:39:58
Yeah, well, we're working to. 01:40:01
Meaning they are asking that we have enough people. 01:40:04
To umm, uh. 01:40:10
In the EOC. 01:40:12
During a disaster. 01:40:13
To have a. 01:40:15
Enough. 01:40:18
For 2/12 hour periods. 01:40:19
There's 8 seats in the ELC, so that's 16 people. 01:40:21
That will be logistics planning. 01:40:24
Liaison Safety Officer. 01:40:27
But you don't, you don't want to be filling all those seats, right? 01:40:30
Well. 01:40:33
In the past, what we've always done is we've used. 01:40:33
And we have activated the OC a couple of times since I've been the director here. 01:40:36
And we'll call in someone from. 01:40:41
One of the fire departments and have a firefighter there. 01:40:44
Sometimes we'll get a law enforcement officer. 01:40:47
If it's a health department issue like COVID, we have a health officer there or health. 01:40:49
Official there. 01:40:54
And we work through it that way. 01:40:56
They've asked that we have trained. 01:40:59
People to do the logistics section chief and a planning section chief. 01:41:02
So and in Franklin County, I was there last. 01:41:07
For two weeks for the flood. 01:41:11
And. 01:41:13
I was. 01:41:15
The first week I was a liaison officer, so I worked with the local federal, state officials, and then last week I was. 01:41:16
Pretty much the planning section chief for the Franklin County. 01:41:22
So that's what we do in the district is we go to other places and help and they'll come here and help. 01:41:26
During a large scale disaster. 01:41:31
Commissioners have just asked that we. 01:41:33
Have our own people. 01:41:36
Trained in those. 01:41:38
Positions and two. 01:41:40
Be able to respond to. 01:41:42
Something that you know. 01:41:44
In a large scale disaster. 01:41:48
But we do have resources we can count on to fill those positions if you didn't have. 01:41:51
Yes. 01:41:55
OK, so this is kind of a want, not really a need. 01:41:57
OK, so. 01:42:02
I'm bad on acronyms DOC. 01:42:04
Emergency operations center that's out there the. 01:42:06
The high check room, Yeah, that pine view, where you going to go eventually? 01:42:09
Trip so. 01:42:13
Question of the Day. 01:42:16
So. 01:42:17
Train up a bunch of volunteers with no home. 01:42:19
Well, right now we have a home. 01:42:23
You're asking me something I can't answer. I wish I could, but I have no answer. 01:42:28
Can't. I went out there a couple times during COVID. I was impressed. It was. 01:42:33
It was very, it was a really. 01:42:37
Good command center, people calling in from everywhere, video screens up. It was just pretty cool. We spent about $200,000 in that 01:42:38
room and. 01:42:42
About two years ago in grant money. 01:42:47
So I mean it is. 01:42:49
And in District 9, which is 12 counties in the district we're in. 01:42:51
There's about, there's probably. 01:42:57
I can think of two counties, Floyd being one. 01:43:00
That has a emergency operations center that is set up and ready to go. 01:43:02
In Franklin County, we use the courtroom. 01:43:07
Or we use the Commissioners and. 01:43:10
Council room. 01:43:12
In their. In their. 01:43:14
Building up there, so I mean. 01:43:15
But that's what we do. 01:43:19
And we go. 01:43:20
You know, I've been to Sullivan County in the years I'm in the Davis County, I've been to Franklin County, I've been to Clark 01:43:21
County. 01:43:24
You know we go and help each other. 01:43:27
The only other issues I would see with volunteers is. 01:43:29
You know, uh. 01:43:32
There's no guarantee these people are going to be available during where if you have professionals already. 01:43:34
Law enforcement. Fire departments. 01:43:40
They they are accessible in. 01:43:43
So I don't know. 01:43:47
Be honest with you, I'm kind of. 01:43:49
That will be issued with that. 01:43:51
The progression board feels like. 01:43:54
You want to add a note. 01:43:56
To move it to 2500. 01:43:57
Well, and then you got to just travel as well. 01:44:03
Well, these other, like I said, those people would have. 01:44:08
Means of travel. 01:44:11
Yeah. And what he was saying was though for training these part time people, he increased his travel around us as well. 01:44:12
Well, and that probably wouldn't cover $3500. 01:44:23
That's all I gotta say. Everybody OK with the notes that have been put in there? 01:44:30
For travel and training. 01:44:37
What was the big jump? 01:44:41
Repair and maintenance. 01:44:43
That had to do with drone? Drone, yes. 01:44:47
Yeah. 01:44:51
They had to. 01:44:53
They had a big cost. 01:44:56
This last year replaced one. 01:44:57
And to keep them constantly. 01:45:00
We have 5 drones. 01:45:03
The department and. 01:45:05
They're they're getting some age on them and yes. 01:45:07
Do we insure those or do you? 01:45:10
Yes, OK. 01:45:12
Yeah, yeah. 01:45:18
Yeah. 01:45:20
All right, any other? 01:45:24
Questions for Kim. 01:45:25
No, all right, we will take it under advisement. 01:45:30
All right. Thank you. 01:45:34
Thank you. 01:45:35
Angel. 01:45:37
Good morning. 01:45:40
House life in the new room. 01:45:43
Coffee. 01:45:45
We're getting used to it. 01:45:49
Yeah, I'm sure. 01:45:50
So as you'll see, I made no changes to my budget other than the 3% suggested increase to the salary line. I did move $100 within 01:45:52
the budget, I just changed up where. 01:45:59
Postage went where? 01:46:05
Mailing fewer things these days, so I moved $100 out of postage and moved those over. And so I'm miscellaneous expenses which. 01:46:07
Basically helps cover my annual meeting. 01:46:14
Thing looks good. 01:46:19
Thank you. 01:46:21
Any questions for Angela? 01:46:22
All right. We will take it under advisement. Thank you. 01:46:24
Well, thank you so much. I hope you guys have a great rest of your day. You too. 01:46:26
Co-op extension services. 01:46:33
Good morning, everyone. Good morning. 01:46:38
Just since. 01:46:41
Last year we were here, we've had some staffing changes so you all might remember Betty Harlan. 01:46:42
Oh, sorry, she's on my left. So Sarah Engelman is our new office manager if you're coming to the office. 01:46:47
So just so that you know. 01:46:52
Potter's office is well aware of Sarah. 01:46:54
Taking care of everything for us so. 01:46:56
Thank you. And then? 01:46:58
Megan Broughton is here, so extension has gone through. 01:47:00
Some changes statewide. 01:47:03
So Megan will now be our regional operations leader. So you'll start seeing Megan more at these versus myself or Sam. 01:47:05
Just because of how we change things up. 01:47:11
You'll see our budget is actually only went up. 01:47:14
About $5000. Megan can explain to you. 01:47:16
Contractual services and what went up with that, but we took money out of travel. 01:47:20
To help offset that in our computer. 01:47:25
And then our rent went up by about 3%. 01:47:27
That's usually what it does. Every year it goes up about 3%. 01:47:30
So if you want me to explain about contractual services. 01:47:34
You can just highlight it if you want, just so we have his knowledge of it. Yeah. So it went from one 36670 was where you guys 01:47:37
were at last year. We're at 1:45 and then. 01:47:42
For this year, for next year and the difference in that is they've. 01:47:46