Floyd County Plan Commission
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| 6:00 Call the order the. | 00:00:00 | |
| Floyd County Planning Commission, May 11th. | 00:00:02 | |
| At this time, we'd like to stay and do the pledge allegiance to the flag. | 00:00:05 | |
| I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. | 00:00:09 | |
| And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God. | 00:00:14 | |
| Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. All right. | 00:00:19 | |
| Thank you. | 00:00:22 | |
| All right, this time we'd like to go through roll call, please. | 00:00:24 | |
| Here. | 00:00:29 | |
| Here. | 00:00:31 | |
| Now these 3 words. | 00:00:32 | |
| Chris Welch. | 00:00:34 | |
| Dale Bagshaw here. | 00:00:36 | |
| Here. | 00:00:38 | |
| Jeremy Shoemaker. | 00:00:39 | |
| Here here. | 00:00:43 | |
| And Chris Welch is on his way. He's stuck in the traffic down the street, so he'll be here. We got enough to get going. | 00:00:46 | |
| OK. We have no announcements. We got roll call. We need the the minutes. | 00:00:53 | |
| For April 13th. | 00:00:58 | |
| Somebody needs to approve those, please. | 00:00:59 | |
| No. | 00:01:01 | |
| All right, we have. Was that Frank Luke? | 00:01:03 | |
| Back, Mr. Bagshaw. | 00:01:05 | |
| We have Frank Lucas second that. All right, All in favor signify by aye. | 00:01:09 | |
| Aye, those opposed likewise. It passed. | 00:01:14 | |
| Unanimous. Thank you. | 00:01:17 | |
| All righty, both sets. | 00:01:19 | |
| No, there's there's only one set. That's a typo. | 00:01:22 | |
| And no announcements. | 00:01:26 | |
| No old business. | 00:01:29 | |
| On new business and I think. | 00:01:31 | |
| Frank, you're going to address this at this time, agenda item number one. | 00:01:33 | |
| If you'll take the floor for us, please. | 00:01:38 | |
| So for Docket FC 4/26/22 with petitioner Dennis Lopez Junior. | 00:01:43 | |
| On a location of 2001 Spring Creek Dr. Fluids Knobs. | 00:01:48 | |
| There was a request for development standards variance to encroach on the build limit line. | 00:01:52 | |
| In the zoning district of Residential Suburban, this petition has been withdrawn. | 00:01:56 | |
| The applicant submitted a letter to be read before the board. | 00:02:00 | |
| Dennis and I wish to withdraw our request for permit approval on the proposed garage we submitted for 2001 Spring Creek Drive. | 00:02:04 | |
| We would like the committee to know that when we purchased our forever home, we were told that there was a previous. | 00:02:10 | |
| Non existent HOA and it is not in effect. | 00:02:15 | |
| We would not have purchased this home knowing we had such restrictions from 40 years ago. | 00:02:18 | |
| We thought we were going through the proper channels by having our land surveyed, utilities mapped out, permits obtained, plans | 00:02:23 | |
| drawn up and et cetera. | 00:02:25 | |
| Our deed had no conveyance attached and we were completely taken off guard. | 00:02:29 | |
| With all the said, since this seems to be what our community wants, we were. | 00:02:33 | |
| Sorry, we want to be good neighbors and withdraw our request at this time. | 00:02:36 | |
| Thank you. | 00:02:39 | |
| Miss Lopez. | 00:02:41 | |
| Alright, thank you, Frank. | 00:02:42 | |
| OK. | 00:02:44 | |
| At this time, we're going to. | 00:02:46 | |
| Agenda item number 2, Docket FC-04-26. | 00:02:49 | |
| Dash 24 zoning map amendment. | 00:02:54 | |
| Advocate Jason Deville. | 00:02:57 | |
| You'd like to take over, Frank? | 00:02:59 | |
| So I have a presentation that the applicant has. | 00:03:02 | |
| Submit it. | 00:03:07 | |
| So docket number FC-42624. | 00:03:20 | |
| Petitioner Jason Deville, location 3674 Scottsville Rd. Floyd's Knobs. | 00:03:24 | |
| A request for a zoning map amendment. A rezone from neighborhood commercial to multifamily. | 00:03:29 | |
| With the current zoning district as neighborhood commercial. | 00:03:34 | |
| The petitioner is requesting a change in zoning from neighborhood commercial to multifamily for senior. | 00:03:38 | |
| Housing Patio. | 00:03:42 | |
| The proposed site is 4.05 acres, located at the southeastern corner of Lafayette Parkway and Scottsville Rd. | 00:03:44 | |
| Just South and West of the chapters living of Floyds Knobs Independent and assisted living facility. | 00:03:50 | |
| These sites are located just north of the Paoli Price commercial corridor and to the east of Scottsville Rd. | 00:03:55 | |
| All within the Lafayette Township. | 00:04:00 | |
| The conceptual proposal for the site is for an upscale 55 plus senior living community consisting of 24 single story. | 00:04:02 | |
| A joint patio homes units. | 00:04:09 | |
| Arranged in four buildings of 6 units each with a dedicated Community Center building. | 00:04:11 | |
| For the exclusive use of residence. | 00:04:16 | |
| For staff comments. | 00:04:18 | |
| The Vision Floyd County Comprehensive Plan discusses this. | 00:04:20 | |
| Commercial corridor at Paley Pike as a smaller commercial area. Page 44. | 00:04:23 | |
| With the intent to provide local commercial needs for residents. | 00:04:28 | |
| This is comparable to a Main Street or town square style for developments providing commercial and recreational amenities for | 00:04:31 | |
| nearby neighborhoods. | 00:04:34 | |
| The vision for the Lafayette Township on page 54. | 00:04:38 | |
| Encourages concentration of commercial use on highlighter point Paoli. | 00:04:41 | |
| Infrastructure permitting. | 00:04:45 | |
| Further residential. | 00:04:47 | |
| Uses are to be directed toward existing infrastructure and to be discouraged within agricultural areas. | 00:04:48 | |
| Placement of mid to low density patio homes encourages the use of Paley Pike. | 00:04:54 | |
| Not just as strip malls along the highway, but as a village center with a supportive neighborhood. | 00:04:58 | |
| The comprehensive plan further indicates a preference within its community survey for housing options for senior citizens at 80% | 00:05:03 | |
| favorability. That's on page 24. | 00:05:07 | |
| This was then identified under the Places to Live theme as an action item. | 00:05:11 | |
| To encourage creation of senior housing partnerships. | 00:05:15 | |
| With senior oriented human service providers countrywide, including local municipal partners. | 00:05:17 | |
| That's on page 35. | 00:05:22 | |
| Lastly, the comprehensive plan outlines residential growth areas on page 42. | 00:05:23 | |
| And encourages that high density patio style housing be considered in areas in close proximity to main commercial areas. | 00:05:27 | |
| Multifamily development should be directed towards established urban areas based on proximity to existing services and density. | 00:05:34 | |
| Multifamily development should be limited to existing zoned areas or when development can provide immediate access to commercial. | 00:05:40 | |
| Alternate forms of transportation. | 00:05:46 | |
| And is incorporated as part of innovative conservation design. | 00:05:48 | |
| The proposed site is in proximity to a main commercial area and has close access to. | 00:05:52 | |
| Unassisted and independent living facility. | 00:05:57 | |
| #1 The rezoning of the subject property is consistent with the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan because. | 00:06:01 | |
| The conceptual proposal encourages development near the Paoli Pike commercial corridor. | 00:06:06 | |
| Proposes increased residential use away from agricultural areas. | 00:06:10 | |
| Proposes residential uses near existing infrastructure. | 00:06:14 | |
| Encourages a sense of place. | 00:06:17 | |
| Aligns with the community preferences for housing options for senior citizens. | 00:06:19 | |
| Adheres to the action item to encourage creation. | 00:06:22 | |
| Of senior housing partnerships. | 00:06:25 | |
| And places patio style housing in close proximity to a main commercial area as explicitly requested by the Comprehensive Plan. | 00:06:27 | |
| #2. | 00:06:33 | |
| The rezoning of the subject property is consistent with the current conditions and the character of. | 00:06:34 | |
| Current structures and uses in the area because the Paoli Pike corridor provides various commercial amenities to the South. | 00:06:38 | |
| While an existing assisted and independent living facility is located to the north. | 00:06:44 | |
| At least item 3, the rezoning of the subject property, is necessary for the most desirable use of the land because the current lot | 00:06:47 | |
| contains 2 underutilized buildings. | 00:06:52 | |
| While this proposal concentrates housing near amenities and places residents in an area where they will generate fewer traffic | 00:06:57 | |
| strip trips. | 00:07:00 | |
| Then if these were single family homes. | 00:07:04 | |
| The concentration of residential units here also preserves land compared to the same number of units were created in the lower | 00:07:06 | |
| density zone. | 00:07:09 | |
| Item 4 The rezoning of the subject property will not be injurious to the value of other properties in the area because. | 00:07:12 | |
| The commercial corridor is already a more intensive use and there are existing patio homes for independent living located along. | 00:07:18 | |
| Magnolia Lane to the east of the proposed site. | 00:07:24 | |
| Item 5. | 00:07:27 | |
| The rezoning of the subject property will support responsible growth and development in the area because. | 00:07:28 | |
| Residential units are concentrated in a way that ensures units have adequate infrastructure. | 00:07:33 | |
| This concentration of units requires less public infrastructure per housing unit. | 00:07:37 | |
| That the county has to maintain compared to lower density developments. | 00:07:41 | |
| There are commercial amenities in close proximity, cutting down on the number of traffic trips generated from these added | 00:07:44 | |
| residential units. | 00:07:48 | |
| For staff recommendations. | 00:07:51 | |
| Whereas the proposal matches with the spirit of the comprehensive plan, staff has no recommended conditions. | 00:07:53 | |
| I'd like to also go through. | 00:07:58 | |
| We've got a conceptual plan, there's a more updated one that the applicant will show. | 00:08:00 | |
| This is. | 00:08:05 | |
| A view of the site looking east from Scottsville Rd. | 00:08:07 | |
| This is another view looking used from Scottsville Rd. | 00:08:10 | |
| This is looking S from Lafayette Parkway. You can see the Magnolia Independent living homes. | 00:08:14 | |
| To the left there. | 00:08:19 | |
| View of the assisted living. | 00:08:21 | |
| Facility just north of the site. | 00:08:23 | |
| View the Commuter Sorry commercial area to the South of the site. | 00:08:25 | |
| The Berry twist there. | 00:08:29 | |
| View the commercial area to the southwest on the other side of Scottsville Rd. which is. | 00:08:31 | |
| The coffee crossing. Some other uses there. | 00:08:36 | |
| All right, that's all I have. | 00:08:42 | |
| All righty, anybody got any questions for? | 00:08:45 | |
| Frank at this time. | 00:08:48 | |
| OK, at this time we'd like to open up. | 00:08:50 | |
| No questions. | 00:08:54 | |
| John yeah, we, we surveyed this about 7 years ago. I'm going to. | 00:08:55 | |
| Recuse myself from this understand. | 00:08:59 | |
| And let the record show that Mister Welch has shown up. He is present. | 00:09:05 | |
| We got one leaving and one coming, so that's pretty good. | 00:09:11 | |
| All righty at this time. | 00:09:15 | |
| With no other questions, we'll open the floor to the applicant. | 00:09:17 | |
| An applicant has 10 minutes to present their. | 00:09:22 | |
| Thorough project. | 00:09:24 | |
| State your name. | 00:09:27 | |
| Address for the record For the record, John Craft, law firm of Young Landers and Craft, 126 W Spring St. New Albany, appearing on | 00:09:28 | |
| behalf of the applicant. | 00:09:32 | |
| As indicated, this is a zoning change and of course, in this particular instance, it's a downside. | 00:09:37 | |
| Uh, taking it from neighborhood commercial, when you look at the uses by right? | 00:09:43 | |
| What ultimately will be there will be much more favorable to traffic patterns. | 00:09:47 | |
| Likewise this because it comes to you on a rezone. | 00:09:53 | |
| Come to you for a recommendation, favorable. | 00:09:56 | |
| Unfavorable or no recommendation and then ultimately. | 00:09:59 | |
| Mr. Loop and his fellow Commissioners have the opportunity then. | 00:10:02 | |
| To look at those same 5 conditions with respect to the rezoning. | 00:10:06 | |
| Those, as indicated in the staff report, Mr. Walden did a very good job of doing my job. | 00:10:10 | |
| For me, because ultimately. | 00:10:16 | |
| In this particular instance, this is one that. | 00:10:17 | |
| Fits. You can check all the boxes for a change as opposed to. | 00:10:20 | |
| Me having to convince you to check those boxes. | 00:10:25 | |
| But those boxes primarily are set up by. | 00:10:28 | |
| 3674603. | 00:10:31 | |
| Dealing with the comprehensive plan. | 00:10:33 | |
| Again, Mr. Walden has done a very good job of dealing with. | 00:10:35 | |
| What this is where it's close to. | 00:10:38 | |
| Proximity to other uses. | 00:10:40 | |
| Current conditions and character of current structures. The photos that he showed you there at the end. | 00:10:43 | |
| Primarily give you that same impression of what all of those surrounding uses are. | 00:10:48 | |
| What all those surrounding users are? | 00:10:53 | |
| And then likewise most desirable use for which the land is adapted. | 00:10:56 | |
| Conservation of property values throughout the jurisdiction. | 00:11:00 | |
| As well as responsible development and growth. | 00:11:04 | |
| As indicated by. | 00:11:07 | |
| Mr. Walden, Mr. Neville, Mr. Jason Neville is here this evening to present you with a. | 00:11:09 | |
| A particular. | 00:11:15 | |
| Plan of what's going to happen he's got a PowerPoint presentation. I'll let him do that but before I do, I would like to make. | 00:11:17 | |
| Part of the record. | 00:11:23 | |
| A letter from Chad Motsinger, who is a licensed real estate broker. | 00:11:25 | |
| To address the item particular as to the most desirable use. | 00:11:29 | |
| As well as conservation. | 00:11:33 | |
| Of value properties throughout the jurisdiction. | 00:11:35 | |
| I'm going to read it quickly because of my time limitations, but dear Floyd County Building Development Services. | 00:11:38 | |
| In response to Agenda Item 2, Docket FC 042624 Zoning Map amendment. | 00:11:43 | |
| Applicant is requesting A zoning map. | 00:11:50 | |
| Change. | 00:11:52 | |
| From Neighborhood Commercial. | 00:11:53 | |
| To multifamily for a proposed senior patio community. | 00:11:55 | |
| Applicant Jason The Bill site, 3674 Scottsville Rd. Floyd Knox IN. | 00:11:58 | |
| And the parcel number and I won't read that. | 00:12:04 | |
| As a resident of the Woods of Lafayette and a local realtor, it's my personal opinion and belief that the best use. | 00:12:06 | |
| Of this property. | 00:12:12 | |
| Is in fact the proposed use. | 00:12:13 | |
| There have been many situations where I've been helping clients who are. | 00:12:15 | |
| From our area. | 00:12:19 | |
| In their search for more manageable housing. | 00:12:20 | |
| Who would prefer to stay close to their family and hometown? | 00:12:22 | |
| As opposed to moving away in search of similar developments. | 00:12:26 | |
| This would help fill that gap. | 00:12:29 | |
| In closing, it is my opinion that the development of this standard in quality. | 00:12:31 | |
| Will only increase the value of the surrounding properties by servicing this much needed local housing. | 00:12:36 | |
| Shortage. | 00:12:42 | |
| For our senior residents. | 00:12:43 | |
| Sincerely yours chat mot singer and likewise I would like to make. | 00:12:45 | |
| That part of the record. | 00:12:49 | |
| And then I'll let Mr. Nabil come up and address. | 00:12:50 | |
| Is PowerPoint. | 00:12:52 | |
| Thanks. Thank you, John. | 00:12:56 | |
| All right. | 00:13:05 | |
| Thank you. Hello. | 00:13:09 | |
| Just state your name and your address for record, Jason. | 00:13:11 | |
| 5511 Moser Knob Rd. Floyd's Knobs, Indiana. | 00:13:15 | |
| Lifelong resident Floyd Knotts. | 00:13:21 | |
| 4th generation owner of this proposed site. | 00:13:23 | |
| And property Appreciate the consideration for the proposed development. | 00:13:27 | |
| I feel like I spent a lifetime putting this together. | 00:13:33 | |
| Uh, here we go. | 00:13:37 | |
| The specific site mapped out here. | 00:13:40 | |
| And I've shared in the presentation with everybody. | 00:13:43 | |
| 4.05 acres, the original Berry Twist and my grandparents Sylvan and Jane Neville. | 00:13:46 | |
| Ordered by Scottsville Rd. Lafayette Parkway, Magnolia Lane. | 00:13:51 | |
| Book Heating and cooling Neighboring. | 00:13:55 | |
| Chapters Living. | 00:13:57 | |
| Facility. | 00:13:59 | |
| With regard to the history on the site. | 00:14:05 | |
| This site has always. | 00:14:08 | |
| Had a history of commerce and community for 100 plus years. | 00:14:10 | |
| In my family. | 00:14:14 | |
| From 1920 to 1970. | 00:14:16 | |
| It was the Neville family Berry market. | 00:14:18 | |
| Thriving marketplace for the exchange. Local farmers. | 00:14:21 | |
| And merchant buyers from around Chicago, Cincinnati, and so forth that they trucked all over. I've got some images there of former | 00:14:25 | |
| building structures. | 00:14:29 | |
| Uh, packing labels, some of the the trucks and everything. | 00:14:33 | |
| Also from 1978 to 2000. | 00:14:37 | |
| The ice cream shop. The Berry Twist. | 00:14:40 | |
| Which my family started. | 00:14:42 | |
| Which became a community hub and icon for their still in operation 48 plus years. | 00:14:45 | |
| In the community, so very excited and proud about that. | 00:14:52 | |
| And hopefully proposed in 2026. Proposed. | 00:14:56 | |
| Senior Community. | 00:15:01 | |
| And I shared the photos there to add a little bit of humor there for you. From 1981. The original Barry twist with a gravel | 00:15:02 | |
| parking lot. | 00:15:07 | |
| And then me, my sister and my cousin. | 00:15:11 | |
| In 1982. | 00:15:15 | |
| With our tall socks. | 00:15:17 | |
| 1980s. | 00:15:19 | |
| Attire and everything for. | 00:15:21 | |
| Entertainment. | 00:15:23 | |
| The proposed development in everything. | 00:15:25 | |
| I went around and researched for the patio home development, pulling from local Design element. | 00:15:29 | |
| The historic schoolhouse from across the street. | 00:15:34 | |
| Utilizing the. | 00:15:39 | |
| Stone Foundation. The architectural brick design elements. | 00:15:41 | |
| That you'll see in the schoolhouse there. | 00:15:45 | |
| For the exterior of the patio home design. | 00:15:48 | |
| Schubert Corner the. | 00:15:52 | |
| Cable market awnings for front covered patio. | 00:15:55 | |
| Sylvan and Jane Neville's home. | 00:15:59 | |
| The X grid windows incorporating into. | 00:16:02 | |
| Garden windows. | 00:16:06 | |
| And the original Berry shed that was there. | 00:16:08 | |
| The rectangular market and everything that they utilized. | 00:16:11 | |
| For the Community Center. | 00:16:15 | |
| So this is. | 00:16:20 | |
| The proposed. | 00:16:21 | |
| Elevation and everything of the patio home. | 00:16:25 | |
| Here again, like we had shared before. | 00:16:29 | |
| Four pods of 6. | 00:16:33 | |
| Around the property. | 00:16:35 | |
| With these. | 00:16:37 | |
| All brick. Full brick. | 00:16:39 | |
| Stone Foundation. | 00:16:41 | |
| Each individual. | 00:16:43 | |
| Unit. | 00:16:45 | |
| Having. | 00:16:46 | |
| Different colored brick all in I. | 00:16:47 | |
| With cohesive color flow and everything for that. | 00:16:50 | |
| And with those market awnings and everything that we had. | 00:16:55 | |
| And together also. | 00:16:58 | |
| So those are the different elevations and everything we had initially. | 00:16:59 | |
| And the units are single story. You'll see the the three small windows above. | 00:17:04 | |
| It's just for a. | 00:17:09 | |
| Elevated. | 00:17:10 | |
| In the great room and everything that you'll see on the next slide here into the kitchen. | 00:17:13 | |
| For it so it slopes, so that provides additional lighting and everything. | 00:17:19 | |
| Into the area there. | 00:17:23 | |
| All of the homes will be ADA accessible. | 00:17:25 | |
| 12109 square feet, two-bedroom, 2 bath. | 00:17:28 | |
| Covered rear patio. | 00:17:32 | |
| With kitchen access. | 00:17:34 | |
| I've toured and walked through. | 00:17:36 | |
| The chapters Living independent living villas. | 00:17:40 | |
| In the back there off of Magnolia Lane also. | 00:17:45 | |
| Some of their back patios you have to walk through the master bedroom to get to and others. | 00:17:48 | |
| This is a very convenient off of the kitchen. | 00:17:54 | |
| Directly for guests so they. | 00:17:58 | |
| Guests wouldn't have to walk through a lesser bedroom. | 00:17:59 | |
| To get to the patio also. | 00:18:02 | |
| No steps. | 00:18:05 | |
| This is a level. | 00:18:07 | |
| Lot and everything that we have here so. | 00:18:08 | |
| From entry to the front, making sure that there's. | 00:18:11 | |
| It's handicap accessible. | 00:18:15 | |
| Extra deep garage storage. | 00:18:18 | |
| Second bedroom also can be multi-purpose. | 00:18:20 | |
| There and we've got proposed built-in Murphy bed so that yes. | 00:18:25 | |
| Coming over or? | 00:18:29 | |
| Grandchildren or whatever. | 00:18:30 | |
| For that. | 00:18:33 | |
| The next. | 00:18:34 | |
| Is the proposed layout. | 00:18:37 | |
| Of the development and just kind of marking up a little bit where you can see. | 00:18:41 | |
| The right of ways, the easements, the floodplain. | 00:18:46 | |
| This is done to scale. | 00:18:50 | |
| This initial drawing and everything was done. | 00:18:53 | |
| In pods of three versus 6. | 00:18:57 | |
| With six, we're able to have more green space. | 00:18:59 | |
| And park area for it. | 00:19:03 | |
| So you'll see that entrance off of Lafayette Parkway directly across. | 00:19:05 | |
| From chapters living, so there's accessibility. | 00:19:11 | |
| Directly across the street there. | 00:19:14 | |
| Wind dance farms. | 00:19:19 | |
| Owns a thin strip of land. | 00:19:21 | |
| All along Lafayette Parkway, so you'll see. | 00:19:24 | |
| Denoted in green. | 00:19:27 | |
| There I met with **** lives. | 00:19:29 | |
| And wind dance farms. And I have a letter of authorization from them. | 00:19:32 | |
| For us to work together, it's included in all of this for you. | 00:19:36 | |
| Also that they would work with us to. | 00:19:41 | |
| Have access to Lafayette Parkway? | 00:19:44 | |
| Circular Dr. and St. | 00:19:48 | |
| Curved Stonewall at the entrance. | 00:19:50 | |
| Swing Park. | 00:19:53 | |
| Kind of a historical thing for us. | 00:19:55 | |
| For my grandparents who sat on that back patio. | 00:19:59 | |
| In the swing, watching traffic up and down the road consistently. | 00:20:02 | |
| Because they could see all their neighbors and everybody else coming by. | 00:20:07 | |
| They would stop by. | 00:20:10 | |
| And so I've got a dedicated, etched out Sylvan and Jane Neville swing. | 00:20:12 | |
| In everything for that area. | 00:20:17 | |
| The Community Center building you'll see and the. | 00:20:20 | |
| The far. | 00:20:25 | |
| Top right. | 00:20:28 | |
| Corner of the property and everything there again, that's modeled after the old Berry shed. | 00:20:29 | |
| That's there. | 00:20:35 | |
| Supplemental parking. | 00:20:36 | |
| So they don't have to have parking on the street. | 00:20:38 | |
| Right now on Magnolia Lane, you'll see people. | 00:20:41 | |
| Parking on the streets. | 00:20:43 | |
| And everything there for the drives. | 00:20:45 | |
| I've been talking with and working with chapters living directly. | 00:20:49 | |
| The new owner, Danny Stryker, is the CEO. They're based out of Saint Louis. | 00:20:53 | |
| We're working on having some shared services with the community back and forth. | 00:20:58 | |
| And so. | 00:21:04 | |
| That's a great partnership that. | 00:21:05 | |
| We formed there. | 00:21:07 | |
| And he sees it also, and this was one of his recommendations. | 00:21:09 | |
| To me for garden villas because of the extensive wait list. | 00:21:13 | |
| That they have for their independent living. | 00:21:17 | |
| When we last checked, they had an 18 month waiting list. | 00:21:20 | |
| Um, there for that. | 00:21:24 | |
| The Community Center building these are some conceptual. | 00:21:30 | |
| Items and everything and I'll I'll show you what we've got mapped out. | 00:21:34 | |
| With all without any other final. | 00:21:38 | |
| Edits and stuff. | 00:21:40 | |
| But to have a modern lobby? | 00:21:42 | |
| Gathering space for residents at the entrance that you'll see. | 00:21:45 | |
| In the picture on the top left. | 00:21:49 | |
| Having a dual indoor outdoor fireplace. | 00:21:51 | |
| Within the lobby and the front patio. | 00:21:55 | |
| There's a catering, kitchen, office, storage room, 2 restrooms. | 00:21:59 | |
| A Wellness fitness studio. | 00:22:03 | |
| Activity multi-purpose area Rear. | 00:22:05 | |
| Garden patio with raised. | 00:22:08 | |
| Garden beds and stuff in the back. | 00:22:11 | |
| So you'll see just some of the conceptual images and stuff there. | 00:22:13 | |
| This is. | 00:22:18 | |
| Without all of the edits and everything to. | 00:22:19 | |
| The initial the front lobby area will be more. | 00:22:23 | |
| Modern design that we've got built into it, but as far as the structure and you can see how it kind of mimics. | 00:22:27 | |
| The rectangular Berry shed building that was there. | 00:22:33 | |
| This is the interior. | 00:22:42 | |
| You'll see that in the bottom left on the screen there. | 00:22:45 | |
| The entrance to the lobby area, gathering space and everything that's there. | 00:22:49 | |
| The front patio, the dual fireplace, office, restroom, storage. | 00:22:55 | |
| Fitness. | 00:23:00 | |
| Catering kitchen, that's there. | 00:23:02 | |
| The garden area. | 00:23:04 | |
| On the backside. | 00:23:07 | |
| With proposed glass garage door so it extends that multi-purpose room out to the rear. | 00:23:08 | |
| Garden Patio. | 00:23:14 | |
| So in kind of summary here. | 00:23:18 | |
| The proposal is for senior independent living. | 00:23:21 | |
| ADA handicap accessible. | 00:23:24 | |
| Low density. | 00:23:26 | |
| Minimal traffic impact for this development. | 00:23:28 | |
| It's close proximity to the commercial area. | 00:23:33 | |
| The design is consistent with other. | 00:23:36 | |
| Current structures and uses. | 00:23:39 | |
| The chapter senior living both. | 00:23:41 | |
| Bordering us on the north and the east side. | 00:23:43 | |
| It's responsible growth and development of this site. | 00:23:48 | |
| It's a low impact on the infrastructure. | 00:23:51 | |
| Two-bedroom, 2 bathroom, single story patio homes with a garage. 12109 square feet. | 00:23:55 | |
| Creates an active community. | 00:24:00 | |
| Front porch, community buildings, Green Park space. | 00:24:02 | |
| That's there the community building having. | 00:24:07 | |
| Resident gathering space. | 00:24:09 | |
| Indoor outdoor patios. Garden fitness. | 00:24:12 | |
| Wellness activities. | 00:24:15 | |
| Community entry from Lafayette Parkway. | 00:24:17 | |
| Directly across from the chapters living entrance. | 00:24:19 | |
| There's a pedestrian access path. | 00:24:22 | |
| That we're looking at adding. | 00:24:25 | |
| 2 Magnolia Lane. | 00:24:27 | |
| To the Community Center building where there would be. | 00:24:28 | |
| And access. | 00:24:31 | |
| Ramp there. So there's connectivity. So if we have some shared services. | 00:24:33 | |
| And everything there for that. | 00:24:38 | |
| And then also having an aesthetic. | 00:24:40 | |
| Perimeter fence around the entire property. | 00:24:42 | |
| With privacy landscape for both our community and the residents. | 00:24:45 | |
| This is a copy of the letter from **** Libs for Lafayette Parkway Access. | 00:24:51 | |
| That's there also. | 00:24:58 | |
| Alrighty. | 00:25:00 | |
| Thank you very much to having. | 00:25:01 | |
| Questions at this time. | 00:25:03 | |
| I've got 1 you mentioned earlier in your presentation. | 00:25:05 | |
| That the buildings are proposed to be up, Rick. | 00:25:08 | |
| Yes. Do you mind that, that we make that a condition, a real commitment? | 00:25:13 | |
| OK, alright. | 00:25:17 | |
| OK, that's the only question I had. | 00:25:18 | |
| This is my legacy plan so I I'm not looking to build and flip this is. | 00:25:20 | |
| Forever. | 00:25:26 | |
| So will there be a? | 00:25:27 | |
| Minimum age. | 00:25:29 | |
| For people that live in here or five. | 00:25:30 | |
| Plus. | 00:25:32 | |
| 55 plus us. | 00:25:34 | |
| Yeah, me too. Speak for yourself. | 00:25:37 | |
| Let me just real quick close, if I may please. Jason's gone through much of what you're going to see with the development plans. | 00:25:44 | |
| As we indicated at the very beginning, tonight is just. | 00:25:53 | |
| Land use for 9 times out of 10. | 00:25:56 | |
| The question always asked, what are you going to do? | 00:25:58 | |
| So by virtue of what he's done tonight. | 00:26:01 | |
| He's giving you that idea. | 00:26:03 | |
| Of what he plans on doing with this. | 00:26:05 | |
| And certain ways Mr. Andrew is committed. | 00:26:07 | |
| Mr. Biebelhauser made the comment as well. | 00:26:10 | |
| Written commitments can be placed and as he indicated. | 00:26:12 | |
| This is what he wants to do and this is his family legacy. Absolutely. We've been approached by other multifamily for apartment | 00:26:16 | |
| complexes and so forth. | 00:26:20 | |
| We're looking forward to doing something responsible, single story. | 00:26:24 | |
| Not looking. | 00:26:29 | |
| Or the current commercial? | 00:26:31 | |
| Utilization of. | 00:26:34 | |
| OK. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. | 00:26:36 | |
| OK, at this time we open the floor. | 00:26:38 | |
| To anybody. | 00:26:41 | |
| We have 10 minutes segment here. Anybody wants to speak in favor of this project? | 00:26:43 | |
| Please come forward and we state your name and address and we give you. | 00:26:48 | |
| We get 10 minutes. | 00:26:53 | |
| And could you start the timer please? | 00:26:55 | |
| Thank you. | 00:26:57 | |
| My name is Larry Book. I own the book Heating and Cooling which is just South of the proposed. | 00:26:58 | |
| Zoning change. | 00:27:03 | |
| But go ahead and state your address, if you will. 3584 Scottsville Rd. | 00:27:05 | |
| Thank you. | 00:27:08 | |
| I've been a neighbor to Jason's grandfather. | 00:27:09 | |
| Even before Jason and his dad bought the property. | 00:27:13 | |
| I've been there 40 years and. | 00:27:16 | |
| They've taken really good care of the area. They're very responsible people. | 00:27:18 | |
| I'm happy with his design. Umm, I thought I I was concerned it might be some large development, you know, multi story with. | 00:27:23 | |
| With all the. | 00:27:32 | |
| Traffic issues. We have the Scottsville Rd. I was concerned about additional traffic and stuff so this looks like a manageable. | 00:27:33 | |
| I, I, you know, I'm 100% behind it. I think it's going to be an asset. I think we need it. | 00:27:41 | |
| I I know this is a zoning thing and I guess down the road we'll actually have the everything else brought back up as far as the. | 00:27:48 | |
| The design of everything that the only, the only thing is that ramp that goes between, you know, Magnolia Lane and comes in the | 00:27:54 | |
| rear part of it to the Community Center. | 00:27:59 | |
| You know, I'm not really sure about, you know, how that will work and how people will access in and out of that. I think Jason | 00:28:05 | |
| told me that there would be some type of security there to where people. | 00:28:10 | |
| Can't just come through there because there's a lot of people that walk between the Berry Twist and Woods Lafayette. | 00:28:14 | |
| And, you know, we don't want a bunch of people, you know, like coming in and out of there and he's gonna fence around it, which I | 00:28:20 | |
| thought was a great idea to keep people from just walking through because there is a lot of people. | 00:28:25 | |
| That, you know, travel back and forth through there. | 00:28:30 | |
| But I Scottsville Rd. traffic is really bad and I think this works with what what we have there. But even without this, you know, | 00:28:33 | |
| it's really. | 00:28:38 | |
| It's kind of hectic in there, so I I think it's something that works with. | 00:28:44 | |
| You know the road that we have. | 00:28:48 | |
| But with future development and stuff like that. | 00:28:50 | |
| You know, down the road we might. | 00:28:53 | |
| Might need a four lane Rd. there. I mean it's really busy. I get in out of my office. | 00:28:56 | |
| We have a hard time getting out. The only reason we can get out is people stop and let us out. You know, there's always traffic | 00:29:00 | |
| coming from schools. | 00:29:03 | |
| People speed up and down Scottsdale Rd. Awful. | 00:29:07 | |
| I talked to a state trooper. He said that they won't even give a ticket unless they're going about 45 because everybody on the | 00:29:11 | |
| road would be getting pulled over. So to me, traffic needs to slow down there. It's, it's really, you know, something that is a | 00:29:16 | |
| concern of mine. I want to make sure. | 00:29:21 | |
| That I have. | 00:29:27 | |
| Good visibility to pull down my parking lot. With what Jason's proposing to do, it looks like it's gonna be off the road enough to | 00:29:28 | |
| for me allow the visibility. So. | 00:29:32 | |
| I I think it's a good thing and I'm happy to see that they're doing something with it. I don't like to see vacant property | 00:29:37 | |
| setting. | 00:29:39 | |
| I know he's been trying to do this for a long time. He spent a long time on it. | 00:29:43 | |
| It looks like he's made good use of that time. | 00:29:46 | |
| Thank you, Larry. | 00:29:51 | |
| Anybody else like to speak in favor? Please step forward to state your name and address for the record. | 00:29:53 | |
| All righty. Then we're going to close that portion portion. | 00:30:02 | |
| At this time, we're going to open up the floor be 10 minutes for anybody will speak in opposition to the project. | 00:30:05 | |
| Once again come forward, state your name and address for the record. | 00:30:12 | |
| My name is Joe Stanley. | 00:30:19 | |
| I live at 3610 Lafayette Parkway. | 00:30:20 | |
| I'm not really arguing for or against it. I'm still trying to figure out whether I do want to argue for or against it. | 00:30:26 | |
| Process. | 00:30:32 | |
| I do have some questions about. | 00:30:33 | |
| The design layout. | 00:30:36 | |
| As he went through, I guess that includes books property. | 00:30:38 | |
| Hope, Sir, you. | 00:30:41 | |
| Your questions have to come toward us. | 00:30:43 | |
| And just let me just remind you this is, this is a, this is a rezone as far as the development standards and. | 00:30:45 | |
| The roads and how it's laid out and all that. | 00:30:53 | |
| That has to come back once the rezoning, so we're not. | 00:30:56 | |
| We're not approving his entrances and we're not getting to that detail right now. We're, you know, we're at 30,000 feet all we're | 00:30:59 | |
| doing as a result. | 00:31:03 | |
| So as far as the details, we can't answer that, nor do we ask him to answer that at this time. | 00:31:07 | |
| So everything you went through is not being as far as the rezoning approval then? | 00:31:12 | |
| That's that's his concept, that's conceptual right now. | 00:31:16 | |
| And I'm saying that correct, Correct. | 00:31:20 | |
| That is correct, yeah. So. | 00:31:21 | |
| What you, what you're we're asking here tonight is a rezone of the property so he can continue on. | 00:31:24 | |
| With his development standards because. | 00:31:30 | |
| There's there's a lot that goes into that. We don't get into that this time. There's a lot of staff involvement in that. And we, | 00:31:32 | |
| we, we would spend hours here tonight trying to, to, to, to design this project so. | 00:31:38 | |
| All we're trying to do is say that the gentleman wants to put in. | 00:31:45 | |
| He was put in senior living. He wants to build the type of buildings he's building. | 00:31:48 | |
| And and he's looking for a rezone. | 00:31:52 | |
| I hope I explained it properly. Yeah. So the design process is we're going to another hearing on that, so. | 00:31:55 | |
| I'll have a chance to say yay or nay against. | 00:32:01 | |
| What design process is going to be if what they're asking for requires A variance that's? | 00:32:04 | |
| Well, let Nick speak to that. Nick can answer your questions. | 00:32:11 | |
| So so the the development work will require a development. | 00:32:15 | |
| Plan which has a development plan review. | 00:32:20 | |
| Which if they're they are not asking for a variance. Those are held at a public meeting. | 00:32:23 | |
| The technical review committee. | 00:32:29 | |
| Meeting. Those are not public hearings, however, right? Right. If it comes back before the Plan Commission board, it will be. | 00:32:31 | |
| Be a public hearing. | 00:32:37 | |
| Or you will be able to speak and if they are asking for any kind of variance against our normal standards. | 00:32:39 | |
| Then they would have to come. | 00:32:44 | |
| Two level plan Commission. | 00:32:46 | |
| Otherwise, if their plan meets all the elements of our zoning ordinance, then they're not required to come back before this board. | 00:32:50 | |
| They would have a technical review. | 00:32:53 | |
| Committee meeting where that development could be approved that way. So if you have any concerns related to the zoning issue, you | 00:32:57 | |
| can raise those to this board, not to the applicant and then they can. | 00:33:02 | |
| Consider what you have to say. | 00:33:08 | |
| OK. So you're staying up? | 00:33:10 | |
| There I may have the option. | 00:33:12 | |
| To not even say anything about the design process and how it's being laid out, if it goes through, if it meets. | 00:33:13 | |
| The criteria. | 00:33:19 | |
| Of the zoning ordinances. | 00:33:21 | |
| The current The current zoning. | 00:33:23 | |
| And our development standards then at that point? | 00:33:25 | |
| He he does not have to have a public hearing, but if he if he asked for any variances from that, then he has to come in front of. | 00:33:28 | |
| One of our boards to get permission for that and that be a public. | 00:33:35 | |
| But where the variances? Where does that leave? | 00:33:39 | |
| A homeowner then if if I don't like the variance, you come to a public meeting and you state your opposition to that variance is | 00:33:42 | |
| what you do. | 00:33:46 | |
| Publicly tonight, We're Here for a Change is currently going to be an option to do that. | 00:33:50 | |
| Not necessarily. | 00:33:54 | |
| That's why I'm confused currently. We're here tonight. It's currently neighborhood commercial and they are trying to move the | 00:33:57 | |
| property to a multifamily. So it's a down zone. So we're here to talk about a zoning. | 00:34:02 | |
| So with that in mind, they have. | 00:34:08 | |
| Presented to this board what their plans are for that property. But again, they'll have to go through that development process | 00:34:10 | |
| through the technical review committee and then if they want any changes from the zoning ordinance, they would have to ask the | 00:34:14 | |
| board for those changes. | 00:34:19 | |
| The the county ordinance for multifamily states all the things that he's required to do. | 00:34:25 | |
| Is where you're saying that? | 00:34:32 | |
| If it beats ordinances. | 00:34:34 | |
| Then it goes through without. | 00:34:36 | |
| A resident, you know, homeowner being able to say yay or nay against if a homeowner was, I mean, that leaves us with no insight to | 00:34:39 | |
| be able to say we like it or don't like it because I do have concerns about. | 00:34:44 | |
| The design process. | 00:34:50 | |
| I do have concerns about the entrance off of Lafayette Parkway. That's that seems a little. | 00:34:52 | |
| It's a little congested right there. | 00:34:57 | |
| If a homeowner wants to develop their property within the zoning ordinances and they're allowed to do that without. | 00:34:59 | |
| Further. | 00:35:05 | |
| Variances from this body. | 00:35:07 | |
| But again, we're here tonight on the zoning issue changing from neighborhood commercial to multifamily. And so if you have any | 00:35:10 | |
| issues with that, then now is your time to voice those to this board. | 00:35:14 | |
| So how do I get involved in the design process as far as seeing what? | 00:35:23 | |
| We're not going to give you any further legal advice. We're here tonight on a zoning issue. I would suggest that. | 00:35:27 | |
| Just go talk to Mr. Neville there and. | 00:35:33 | |
| Ask him what he's gonna do and if you don't like it. | 00:35:36 | |
| Then watch the meetings and come back and. | 00:35:40 | |
| Stand right where you're at and tell us you don't like it. | 00:35:43 | |
| OK, but he's he's very open I'm. | 00:35:48 | |
| You'll you'll talk to you. | 00:35:52 | |
| OK, just state your name and address for the record please. | 00:35:59 | |
| Linda Lapalooza, 3603 Lafayette Parkway. | 00:36:02 | |
| My home was probably photographed in one of those pictures that were shown because we're that close. | 00:36:08 | |
| So I'd like to say that I'm also a licensed realtor and has have been for 25 years and I'm a member of the National Association of | 00:36:15 | |
| Realtors as well. | 00:36:19 | |
| And I will say the thing that concerns me the most is that Scottsville Rd. is already a busy 2 lane highway serving residents, | 00:36:26 | |
| schools and assisted living facility. | 00:36:31 | |
| And commuters. | 00:36:36 | |
| An additional height, you know. | 00:36:38 | |
| High density development. I know we want to clock it as low density but it will increase. | 00:36:39 | |
| Congestion, traffic, noise. | 00:36:44 | |
| And strain on the infrastructure. | 00:36:46 | |
| And all of these changes, respectfully, can diminish fire perception and weaken long term value appreciation. | 00:36:49 | |
| For neighboring. | 00:36:57 | |
| Properties. | 00:36:58 | |
| I just wanted to say I respectfully request the Floyd County Planning Commission to. | 00:37:00 | |
| When considering a zoning change, you know at minimum require the low density preservation minded plan. | 00:37:06 | |
| I appreciate what Jason Neville has presented. | 00:37:11 | |
| He was also respectable enough to say he reached out to me a couple weeks ago and said. | 00:37:15 | |
| When you have a moment, like to chat with you. | 00:37:20 | |
| I did call him back. | 00:37:23 | |
| His voicemail was full. | 00:37:24 | |
| So I didn't have an opportunity to connect, but you know, I keep in mind that Floyd County is Indiana's second smallest county by | 00:37:25 | |
| land area, yet already its population density is approximately 555 people per square mile. | 00:37:32 | |
| So I feel like the Knobs is rapidly losing their rural beauty and green space that families moved here to enjoy. That's why we | 00:37:40 | |
| moved there and. | 00:37:44 | |
| You know, once the farmland in the open space is developed, they're gone forever. | 00:37:48 | |
| Um, I also think that I know that we're not against growth. We're just asking for a smart balanced. | 00:37:54 | |
| Growth that respects existing restaurants, residents, preserves open space and protects the character of Floyd's Knobs for future | 00:38:00 | |
| generations. | 00:38:05 | |
| And I would ask that all of these, I would say that. | 00:38:10 | |
| The most important thing we respectfully ask is that. | 00:38:14 | |
| Concerning this rezoning. | 00:38:17 | |
| To especially ensure. | 00:38:19 | |
| That it would not be permitted. | 00:38:22 | |
| To become. | 00:38:24 | |
| Apartment buildings. | 00:38:25 | |
| Which we understand. | 00:38:27 | |
| Qualify under the multifamily zoning permit. | 00:38:30 | |
| That would be. | 00:38:34 | |
| So does it go as a matter of record? But that what he. | 00:38:36 | |
| Applied for was patio homes. | 00:38:39 | |
| Again, we're only here tonight on a zoning change. | 00:38:44 | |
| From Neighborhood Commercial. | 00:38:46 | |
| Where they currently are allowed to do anything under the zoning ordinance and neighborhood commercial and they're requesting to | 00:38:48 | |
| move to a multifamily and the multifamily would allow apartment buildings. | 00:38:52 | |
| If if he took it further and got a further variance. | 00:38:57 | |
| That would be another hearing where? | 00:39:01 | |
| They can say, hey, we want to build apartments or let's say he sells it tomorrow to you. | 00:39:03 | |
| And you want to put apartments? | 00:39:09 | |
| Then you would have to come in here. | 00:39:11 | |
| Can say. | 00:39:13 | |
| This is what my concept is. | 00:39:14 | |
| And then? | 00:39:16 | |
| We could vote yay or nay. | 00:39:17 | |
| Again, I do want to go back though if if it's. | 00:39:20 | |
| By right and he follows the zoning ordinance, sure he will be allowed to do that without any other hearing before this board. | 00:39:23 | |
| OK. | 00:39:30 | |
| Currently it's zoned neighborhood commercial. | 00:39:31 | |
| And he can develop that property as neighborhood commercial if the multifamily is not approved, which I think would probably have | 00:39:33 | |
| a significant amount of traffic compared to what he's proposing right now to be honest with neighborhood commercial would be. | 00:39:39 | |
| A lot busier. | 00:39:44 | |
| And to your concern that you stated as far as traffic? | 00:39:45 | |
| I think there's going to be less traffic with what he's proposing. | 00:39:49 | |
| Yeah, I appreciate you saying that. We discussed that with John Kraft earlier and that's what you know, but. | 00:39:51 | |
| You know, you understand our preservation of wanting to just minimize the congestion and further. | 00:39:57 | |
| Confusion and. | 00:40:03 | |
| I hope that it works out because that's a great family here at Edge. So thank you for your time and your thank you. | 00:40:04 | |
| OK, we have 5 minutes left. | 00:40:11 | |
| No, we don't have 5 minutes. | 00:40:15 | |
| Please stop the timer on you. You reset it. OK, well that portion is done. | 00:40:17 | |
| A lot of time trying to, yeah, yeah, I think you have one more person that would like to speak. | 00:40:23 | |
| Yeah, come here, allow whoever wants to. | 00:40:30 | |
| Absolutely. | 00:40:32 | |
| State your name and address please. Barbara Bridgewater, 3729 Scottsdale Rd. | 00:40:36 | |
| I perhaps only have. | 00:40:42 | |
| A clarification. We'll see where this goes. | 00:40:44 | |
| And I do wanna. | 00:40:46 | |
| Thank Franklin because he met with me and tried to explain some things. | 00:40:49 | |
| But I just want to ensure that everybody's on the same path. | 00:40:53 | |
| When I look. | 00:40:56 | |
| If the map the colored map. | 00:40:57 | |
| It's hard to tell. | 00:41:01 | |
| By the colors. | 00:41:03 | |
| What things are? | 00:41:05 | |
| Really. | 00:41:06 | |
| Where the dividing line is between. | 00:41:08 | |
| Various zoning. | 00:41:10 | |
| Classifications. | 00:41:12 | |
| I'm across the road. | 00:41:14 | |
| Is that going to remain? | 00:41:17 | |
| Neighborhood Commercial. | 00:41:19 | |
| The only thing that will change is the parcel that is has an application. Yes, yes. | 00:41:23 | |
| And I think. | 00:41:32 | |
| Perhaps just a comment? | 00:41:33 | |
| Related to what the gentleman made. | 00:41:39 | |
| There's A to be a pond, a holding pond or something. | 00:41:43 | |
| With Jason. | 00:41:47 | |
| Proposal. | 00:41:48 | |
| I'm living back. | 00:41:51 | |
| Almost, I don't know, 15 years ago when Azalea Hills came in and they had to hold the club. | 00:41:53 | |
| Also have two. | 00:41:58 | |
| And they were going to be dry. | 00:42:00 | |
| And there's one, and it's filled with water. | 00:42:02 | |
| And every time there's a flood. | 00:42:04 | |
| It washes out my driveway completely and I have to. | 00:42:06 | |
| Spend a lot of money to take care of that and I don't want to see that happening. | 00:42:09 | |
| That probably might not affect my house, but it'll affect my neighbor's house, so I just I'm concerned about. | 00:42:13 | |
| About that. | 00:42:18 | |
| So. | 00:42:20 | |
| Did you say you're across the street on Scottsville? | 00:42:22 | |
| Yeah, right on the Creek. | 00:42:27 | |
| OK. | 00:42:29 | |
| OK. Thank you. | 00:42:30 | |
| That's I think it's a good point. I don't know what we can do. | 00:42:36 | |
| Did you want? | 00:42:47 | |
| Do we have time? | 00:42:53 | |
| Excuse me? | 00:42:58 | |
| My name is Shelly Stevenson. I'm a. | 00:43:00 | |
| A joint owner of 3703 Scottsdale Rd. which is right across from the. | 00:43:09 | |
| Lafayette Parkway entrance. | 00:43:13 | |
| And I just wanted to echo their concerns, just that we had about just the traffic. I know it's less. | 00:43:15 | |
| Traffic than it could be with apartments and all, but just that traffic coming out of that. | 00:43:21 | |
| Parkway because our driveway is right. | 00:43:25 | |
| Directly across. | 00:43:27 | |
| And just one. | 00:43:28 | |
| To see if the consideration I understand Magnolia. | 00:43:30 | |
| Lane might be a. | 00:43:34 | |
| Private drive to just see if. | 00:43:35 | |
| Possibly there's an additional. | 00:43:37 | |
| Entrance exit that can be made there to alleviate some of the traffic and. | 00:43:39 | |
| Have coming out on Paley Pike instead of. | 00:43:42 | |
| Everybody happened to go Scottsville Rd. | 00:43:45 | |
| It's one thing for the residents, but when you look at that Community Center, it looks. | 00:43:47 | |
| I don't know what capacity size wasn't mentioned, but it looks rather large and if you have a big event. | 00:43:50 | |
| Everybody's filing out of that. | 00:43:55 | |
| Community Center at the same time, probably in the evenings, at night. | 00:43:57 | |
| That's just a lot of traffic trying to turn left. | 00:44:00 | |
| Chances are they'll be turning left on Scottsville Rd. most of them. And that's just a lot of traffic. | 00:44:02 | |
| Just suggest seeing about a consideration of an alternative. | 00:44:07 | |
| Option to have more than one way in and out to alleviate some of the Scottsville Rd. pressure. | 00:44:12 | |
| Thank you. | 00:44:17 | |
| OK at this time. | 00:44:19 | |
| Applicant like to come back up and. | 00:44:23 | |
| Speak. | 00:44:26 | |
| I will be very brief and and each of you have kind of indicated that to the members of the public tonight, but. | 00:44:29 | |
| This is merely a land use. It has nothing to do with what was. | 00:44:35 | |
| Presented certainly as I indicated. | 00:44:39 | |
| 9 times out of 10 when somebody's. | 00:44:41 | |
| Doing a zoning change. | 00:44:44 | |
| Everybody asks what you're going to do and when they say don't know. | 00:44:45 | |
| That's kind of that red flag. | 00:44:49 | |
| The idea tonight with Jason doing what he did was give everybody. | 00:44:51 | |
| A feel for what was going to be done. | 00:44:55 | |
| But as I indicated tonight, is actually a down zone. | 00:44:57 | |
| From Neighborhood commercial, when you look at all of the by right uses, I think Mr. Andrew made the comment about. | 00:45:00 | |
| This is probably going to generate less traffic I think when you look at the buy right uses that could be placed there. | 00:45:07 | |
| I would agree with him. | 00:45:13 | |
| But I think ultimately your considerations are only those that are set out. | 00:45:14 | |
| In the statute. | 00:45:18 | |
| And again, primarily comprehensive plan. | 00:45:20 | |
| Current conditions, character most desirable use, conservation of property values and responsible development and growth. | 00:45:23 | |
| So I indicated Mr. Walden did a very good job of explaining that. | 00:45:29 | |
| And I would ask that you follow his recommendations by virtue. | 00:45:33 | |
| Of answering all of those questions. | 00:45:37 | |
| Those five elements. | 00:45:39 | |
| In positive. | 00:45:41 | |
| To grant that. Thank you. | 00:45:42 | |
| And I have a question for Misterville. You could come forward. Please just state your name. | 00:45:43 | |
| Address for the record again. | 00:45:49 | |
| Yep, Jason, OK. | 00:45:51 | |
| Yes, in this data's name and address. Jason Neville, 5511. | 00:45:55 | |
| Sorry I got my mind million places. I'm with you. | 00:45:59 | |
| OK, so. | 00:46:02 | |
| You've agreed that we can put a written commitment that they'd be all stone all. | 00:46:04 | |
| Yes, Sir, our stone. OK. | 00:46:08 | |
| Would you agree to a written commitment? | 00:46:10 | |
| That it will not go multi multi story that you'll go. | 00:46:13 | |
| Yes, Sir, I think Linda. | 00:46:17 | |
| Linda brought up a very good point and I want to. | 00:46:19 | |
| I want to. I want to. | 00:46:22 | |
| Good kudos there. OK, because I really didn't think about that. | 00:46:24 | |
| Because it does. | 00:46:28 | |
| Have the possibility if we approve this for multi for? | 00:46:30 | |
| Multifamily that it could you could sell it in some 100% fine single story if you'll do that I think that will take care of her, | 00:46:34 | |
| her situation and. | 00:46:38 | |
| Relieve me a little bit too. Are you agreeable to single story no apartments? | 00:46:43 | |
| Yes. | 00:46:47 | |
| Yes, OK. Well, that's. | 00:46:48 | |
| You're the man of the art, then. | 00:46:51 | |
| All right. Anybody have any questions? I'm sorry. OK. I just like to add a little levity. I'll date myself. I picked strawberries | 00:46:53 | |
| that went to the Berry shed. Yes, Sir. I picked cucumbers that work went to the Berry shed. One of the hardest days in my life. I | 00:47:00 | |
| ever worked in my life, working for the Fenwicks, picking cucumbers that went to the Berry shed. | 00:47:06 | |
| And I'll date myself. | 00:47:13 | |
| Yes Sir. Well to this day we grew all our own strawberries or raspberries for all of our ice cream back in the day. | 00:47:14 | |
| And to this day I have 0 desire to ever have a strawberry because these hands should still be staged. That and Pickles. Never | 00:47:21 | |
| again for me. You got it right back. Never Pickles. I hated that. | 00:47:27 | |
| OK, enough. | 00:47:34 | |
| Farming. | 00:47:35 | |
| OK, at this point we're looking for a ballot. | 00:47:37 | |
| Alrighty Frank, loop is. | 00:47:42 | |
| I'm going to give us a ballot. | 00:47:44 | |
| Let the record show. | 00:47:47 | |
| I mean docket. | 00:47:49 | |
| Docket Spot. | 00:47:53 | |
| FC or 42624? | 00:47:56 | |
| 4 County Zoning ordinance 2000. | 00:48:01 | |
| 6 Jason Deville's petitioner. | 00:48:04 | |
| In reviewing the zoning amendment petition, the Planning Commission and the county commissioner shall pay reasonable regard to the | 00:48:08 | |
| following. | 00:48:11 | |
| Floyd County Comprehensive Plan and any. | 00:48:15 | |
| Other applicable. | 00:48:17 | |
| Adopted planning studies or reports. | 00:48:19 | |
| #2 the current conditions and the character of the current structures. | 00:48:22 | |
| And use of each district #3. | 00:48:26 | |
| The most desirable use. | 00:48:29 | |
| For each, the land in each district is adapted. | 00:48:31 | |
| And #4 the conservation of the property values throughout Floyd County. | 00:48:35 | |
| And five, responsible growth and development. | 00:48:39 | |
| I'm proposing a decision. After careful review, the Plan Commission finds that. | 00:48:43 | |
| Rezoning of the subject property is consistent with Floyd County. | 00:48:48 | |
| Comprehensive plan. | 00:48:53 | |
| Because conceptual. | 00:48:55 | |
| Proposal. | 00:48:57 | |
| Encourages development near Paoli Bright commercial corridor. | 00:48:58 | |
| Proposes increased residential use away from. | 00:49:02 | |
| Agricultural areas proposes residential uses. | 00:49:06 | |
| Near existing infrastructure. | 00:49:10 | |
| Encourages a sense of place. | 00:49:12 | |
| Aligns the community preferences for housing. | 00:49:15 | |
| Options for senior citizens. | 00:49:18 | |
| Adheres to the action item to encourage creation. | 00:49:21 | |
| Of senior housing partnerships. | 00:49:25 | |
| And places patio style housing in close proximity. | 00:49:27 | |
| To a main commercial area that's explicitly requested. | 00:49:31 | |
| By the comprehensive plan. | 00:49:36 | |
| #2. | 00:49:38 | |
| The rezoning of the subject property is consistent with the current conditions and the character. | 00:49:39 | |
| Of current structures and uses in the area because. | 00:49:45 | |
| Failing flight corridor provides various commercial amenities to the South. | 00:49:49 | |
| Will an existing assisted and independent living facility. | 00:49:54 | |
| Is located to the north. | 00:49:58 | |
| #3 The rezoning of the subject property is necessary for the most desirable land. | 00:50:00 | |
| For the use of the land because the current. | 00:50:09 | |
| Lot contains 2 underutilized buildings. | 00:50:12 | |
| Well, this proposal concentrates housing near amenities. | 00:50:15 | |
| And places residents in an area where they'll generate fewer traffic trips. | 00:50:19 | |
| Then in favor single family homes. | 00:50:24 | |
| The concentration of the residential units. | 00:50:26 | |
| Here also preserves land compared to the same number of units were created. | 00:50:29 | |
| In a lower density. | 00:50:34 | |
| #4. | 00:50:37 | |
| The rezoning of the subject property will not. | 00:50:38 | |
| Be injurious to the value of other properties in the area because. | 00:50:41 | |
| There's the commercial corridor is already a more intensive use. | 00:50:45 | |
| There are existing patio homes for independent living located. | 00:50:49 | |
| Along Magnolia Lane. | 00:50:53 | |
| Each to the preferred site. | 00:50:55 | |
| By the rezoning of the subject property will support. | 00:50:57 | |
| Responsible growth and development in the area because. | 00:51:01 | |
| Residential units are concentrated in a way that ensures units have. | 00:51:05 | |
| Adequate infrastructure. | 00:51:09 | |
| This concentration of units requires less public infrastructure for housing. | 00:51:12 | |
| Unit than the county has to maintain compared to the lower density. | 00:51:17 | |
| The developments there are commercial amenities in close proximity, cutting down on the number. | 00:51:21 | |
| Of traffic trips generated for those added residential units. | 00:51:26 | |
| Profound, careful review. | 00:51:31 | |
| I propose the Plan Commission hereby makes favor of the. | 00:51:33 | |
| Recommendation. | 00:51:37 | |
| To the county commissioners. | 00:51:38 | |
| Concerning the petitioner zoning amendment application at the meeting. | 00:51:40 | |
| Themselves today. | 00:51:45 | |
| And a favorable recommendation is made based on the following written commitments. | 00:51:46 | |
| It would be uh. | 00:51:52 | |
| The structure is brick or stone. | 00:51:56 | |
| And single story only near park. | 00:52:00 | |
| OK, we have a ballot. Need a second? | 00:52:04 | |
| I'll second that. Let the record show that Larry Biebelhauser has seconded any. | 00:52:06 | |
| Discussion. | 00:52:11 | |
| No discussion at that time. All in favor signify by aye. | 00:52:12 | |
| Aye, those opposed likewise. | 00:52:17 | |
| Let the record show as unanimous vote in favor. | 00:52:19 | |
| Thank you. All right. | 00:52:22 | |
| Let's get on to the next item. | 00:52:25 | |
| Item number 3. | 00:52:28 | |
| Docket FC-11-205-35. | 00:52:30 | |
| Primary approval of administrative subdivision replat. | 00:52:35 | |
| Applicant is seeking primary approval of an administrative subdivision as a replant. | 00:52:39 | |
| Of Lot 233 of a major subdivision known as Laxley Springs. | 00:52:43 | |
| Applicant James Sin. | 00:52:47 | |
| And representative is. | 00:52:49 | |
| Jason copper weight. | 00:52:52 | |
| At this time, Frank, if you'll give your staff report, please. All right. | 00:52:54 | |
| I've got a docket #FC112535. | 00:52:57 | |
| Petitioner Jameson. | 00:53:04 | |
| People they. | 00:53:07 | |
| Good. You probably have to go outside or we can't overhear this. Thank you very much. | 00:53:08 | |
| Go ahead. | 00:53:14 | |
| Location 1105 Beechwood Dr. Lanesville, IN 47136. | 00:53:14 | |
| Request for an administrative minor subdivision reflat of Lot 233 and legacy springs. | 00:53:19 | |
| The zoning district is agricultural residential. | 00:53:25 | |
| The petitioner is requesting to vacate and rededicate the existing 30 foot drainage easement located on Lot 233 within the Legacy | 00:53:28 | |
| Springs Subdivision. | 00:53:32 | |
| The easement would be shifted further north to align more closely with the existing Swale, ensure a proposed home on Lot 233 is | 00:53:36 | |
| not situated within the current easement area and also allow for adequate space for the residents to include a yard. | 00:53:42 | |
| The applicant states that he has consulted with both the Army Corps of Engineers and ITEM, and that because the feature was | 00:53:49 | |
| determined to be an ephemeral stream, both agencies indicated no objections to the proposed mitigation and easement relocation. | 00:53:55 | |
| The Stormwater board has already approved. | 00:54:00 | |
| The rededicated drainage easement. | 00:54:03 | |
| For staff comments. | 00:54:04 | |
| For the vacation. | 00:54:06 | |
| The conditions in the platted area have not changed so as to defeat the original purpose of the plat because lot lines will not be | 00:54:07 | |
| modified and the modification for the subdivision will allow for the replacement of an existing easement to allow for residents to | 00:54:12 | |
| be built while also adequately addressing the drainage area. | 00:54:17 | |
| It is in the public interest to vacate all or part of the plat because vacating part of the plat will. | 00:54:22 | |
| Make the lot buildable by allowing. | 00:54:27 | |
| For development of a residence that will not be located within the drainage easement. | 00:54:29 | |
| The value of that part of the land in the plat not owned by the petitioner will not be diminished by vacation because the value of | 00:54:33 | |
| the land not owned by the petitioner. | 00:54:37 | |
| Will that be diminished as the proposed drainage easement modification will continue to ensure adequate stormwater management and | 00:54:41 | |
| protection for neighboring properties? | 00:54:45 | |
| Additionally, allowing the lot to be developed with. | 00:54:49 | |
| Single family residents may enhance cohesion of the neighborhood as. | 00:54:53 | |
| Currently the lot is vacant and which in turn may potentially increase surrounding property values. | 00:54:57 | |
| Staff comments for the minor subdivision the Plat has submitted does comply with the lock standards. | 00:55:01 | |
| Or lot size standards because there are no proposed. | 00:55:06 | |
| Changes to previously approved lot sizes. | 00:55:09 | |
| The, Plato submitted, does comply with the street design standards because. | 00:55:11 | |
| No modification to streets are proposed. Streets will remain public and Legacy Springs. | 00:55:14 | |
| Platis submitted does comply with the easement standards. | 00:55:19 | |
| Because no changes to the originally approved easements have been made. | 00:55:22 | |
| The plot has submitted comply with the box standards because the plat will remain accessible via the subdivision St. | 00:55:27 | |
| Platis submitted does provide St. improvements as required by ordinance. Because no modifications to the previously approved | 00:55:33 | |
| streets are proposed, streets will remain public. | 00:55:37 | |
| I have submitted does comply with the water supply standards because previous approvals included verification of service | 00:55:40 | |
| providers. | 00:55:44 | |
| The platter submitted is suitable for sewage and wastewater containment because previous approvals. | 00:55:48 | |
| Included verification of service providers for staff recommendations prior to seeking secondary approval and final plat approval. | 00:55:53 | |
| From the county commissioners, the applicant must submit documentation or communication from both item and the US Army Corps of | 00:55:58 | |
| Engineers granting approval of the stream mitigation. | 00:56:02 | |
| Alrighty, that's a lot to take in. | 00:56:08 | |
| You got more information for us? | 00:56:11 | |
| Here is the overview or the overhead view from Beacon. | 00:56:13 | |
| And then this is the. | 00:56:18 | |
| Plan. That's a picture of the lot. It's the most recent one I can find. | 00:56:19 | |
| Oh, snow. | 00:56:23 | |
| Yeah, there you go. | 00:56:25 | |
| So Frank on the floor. | 00:56:28 | |
| That's what I'm talking. | 00:56:31 | |
| You're #3. | 00:56:33 | |
| You said no changes to your review approved easements. This is a change to an easement specifically is changing. I apologize. | 00:56:36 | |
| So should the wording be? | 00:56:43 | |
| No changes to the original approved easements have been made except for Lot 233. | 00:56:45 | |
| That's that's a good catch. I messed up. Thank you, Sir. Thank you. | 00:56:51 | |
| OK. Any other questions for Frank? | 00:56:55 | |
| Yeah. | 00:56:58 | |
| All right, I see none. | 00:57:00 | |
| OK, so we got to do the same thing, right? | 00:57:01 | |
| The applicant, yeah, if the applicant likes to come forward now. | 00:57:04 | |
| And state your name and address for the record. Yeah, he's not here. | 00:57:08 | |
| I was expecting them to be here. I'm James San, I'm the developer of Legacy Springs. | 00:57:12 | |
| Subdivision in. | 00:57:17 | |
| I'll pretty well explain what we're. | 00:57:19 | |
| Address. Give us your address 5512. | 00:57:20 | |
| Scottsville, Navalton Rd. White Knobs, Indiana. Thank you. | 00:57:23 | |
| Well, I'm pretty much said what we're needing to do. | 00:57:30 | |
| We were hoping to do that. | 00:57:33 | |
| When we asked for the. | 00:57:35 | |
| There in December, but. | 00:57:37 | |
| There was some question that we needed the letter from. | 00:57:38 | |
| A Corps of Engineers OK and. | 00:57:42 | |
| That they didn't have any. | 00:57:44 | |
| Question or problems with it? | 00:57:46 | |
| And we got that and that. | 00:57:48 | |
| Hopefully should be all we needed. | 00:57:51 | |
| OK. Any questions for Mr. Sin? | 00:57:53 | |
| Good, Bonnie. Thank you, Sir. | 00:57:57 | |
| OK, at this time we. | 00:58:00 | |
| Oh wait, we still have to open up for public, right? At this time, we open up for public comment in favor. | 00:58:02 | |
| Of this applicant. | 00:58:07 | |
| OK. If that case anybody? | 00:58:12 | |
| In opposition. | 00:58:15 | |
| Come forward. | 00:58:17 | |
| That seems like there's none there. | 00:58:19 | |
| OK, so I guess what? | 00:58:21 | |
| We don't need you to come up and respond to what anybody said. | 00:58:24 | |
| Hope I said anything. So this time we opened up for a ballot. | 00:58:27 | |
| I have a ballot. | 00:58:30 | |
| Let's record show that Larry Beeblehauser has submitted a ballot. | 00:58:31 | |
| Subdivision Name Legacy Springs. Docket FC1125-35. | 00:58:35 | |
| Applicant James Sin, after Keffer reviewed the Platte committee finds that one the plat. | 00:58:40 | |
| Estimate it does comply with the lot size standards because there are no proposed changes to previously approved light sizes. | 00:58:46 | |
| #2 the Plat has submitted does comply with the streets design standards. | 00:58:52 | |
| Because no modification to the streets are proposed #3. | 00:58:57 | |
| The plant as submitted does comply with the easement standards because no changes to the original approved easements have been | 00:59:00 | |
| made except for Lot 233. | 00:59:05 | |
| #4 the plat. | 00:59:09 | |
| As submitted, does comply with the block standards because the plat. | 00:59:11 | |
| Will remain accessible via the subdivision St. | 00:59:15 | |
| #5. | 00:59:20 | |
| The plan has submitted does provide St. improvements as required by the ordinance because no modification to the previously | 00:59:20 | |
| approved streets are proposed. | 00:59:24 | |
| Number six, the plat. | 00:59:28 | |
| As submitted, does comply with the water supply standards because previously approvals. | 00:59:30 | |
| Included verification of services. | 00:59:34 | |
| Service providers. | 00:59:37 | |
| #7 the plat as submitted. | 00:59:38 | |
| Is suitable for sewage and waste. | 00:59:40 | |
| Water containment because previous approvals included verification of service providers. | 00:59:42 | |
| But is accepted upon the completion of the following condition, do we? | 00:59:47 | |
| Is that necessary since we got the letter from the Corps? | 00:59:51 | |
| I don't think you have it in. | 00:59:54 | |
| Huh. You don't have it yet. | 00:59:56 | |
| OK. | 00:59:58 | |
| Priority seeking secondary approval. The final plan approval from the county commissioners and applicant must submit documentation | 00:59:59 | |
| or communication from both IDEM and the US Army Corps of Engineers granting approval. | 01:00:05 | |
| Of the stream mitigate. | 01:00:11 | |
| Of the stream mitigation. | 01:00:13 | |
| Decision the Floyd County Planning Commission. | 01:00:15 | |
| Platt Committee hereby grants. | 01:00:18 | |
| Primary approval of the subdivision. | 01:00:22 | |
| Of this administrative subdivision at the meeting held on the 11th of May, 2026, that completes my ballot. | 01:00:24 | |
| All right, we have a ballot. I need a second. | 01:00:31 | |
| Let the record show that Chris Welch was the person that seconded. | 01:00:34 | |
| Any discussion? | 01:00:38 | |
| All in favor signify by aye. | 01:00:41 | |
| Aye, those opposed likewise. | 01:00:43 | |
| Alrighty, thank you. It passes. Thank you, Sir. | 01:00:46 | |
| All right, at this time we have. | 01:00:48 | |
| No other business. Is that correct, Frank? | 01:00:50 | |
| All right. At this time, I'd like to thank everybody for showing up tonight on the board. Thank you very much. I know the traffic | 01:00:53 | |
| was something. | 01:00:56 | |
| At that, I need a motion to adjourn. | 01:00:59 | |
| Motion to adjourn Second. All right. Chris Welch made a motion to adjourn. It was seconded by. | 01:01:03 | |
| By Dale Bagshaw All in favor signify by aye. | 01:01:08 | |
| Aye, opposed likewise. | 01:01:11 | |
| Thank you. See you next month, guys. Don't leave till you sign. Don't leave to your sign. There's a. | 01:01:13 |
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| 6:00 Call the order the. | 00:00:00 | |
| Floyd County Planning Commission, May 11th. | 00:00:02 | |
| At this time, we'd like to stay and do the pledge allegiance to the flag. | 00:00:05 | |
| I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. | 00:00:09 | |
| And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God. | 00:00:14 | |
| Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. All right. | 00:00:19 | |
| Thank you. | 00:00:22 | |
| All right, this time we'd like to go through roll call, please. | 00:00:24 | |
| Here. | 00:00:29 | |
| Here. | 00:00:31 | |
| Now these 3 words. | 00:00:32 | |
| Chris Welch. | 00:00:34 | |
| Dale Bagshaw here. | 00:00:36 | |
| Here. | 00:00:38 | |
| Jeremy Shoemaker. | 00:00:39 | |
| Here here. | 00:00:43 | |
| And Chris Welch is on his way. He's stuck in the traffic down the street, so he'll be here. We got enough to get going. | 00:00:46 | |
| OK. We have no announcements. We got roll call. We need the the minutes. | 00:00:53 | |
| For April 13th. | 00:00:58 | |
| Somebody needs to approve those, please. | 00:00:59 | |
| No. | 00:01:01 | |
| All right, we have. Was that Frank Luke? | 00:01:03 | |
| Back, Mr. Bagshaw. | 00:01:05 | |
| We have Frank Lucas second that. All right, All in favor signify by aye. | 00:01:09 | |
| Aye, those opposed likewise. It passed. | 00:01:14 | |
| Unanimous. Thank you. | 00:01:17 | |
| All righty, both sets. | 00:01:19 | |
| No, there's there's only one set. That's a typo. | 00:01:22 | |
| And no announcements. | 00:01:26 | |
| No old business. | 00:01:29 | |
| On new business and I think. | 00:01:31 | |
| Frank, you're going to address this at this time, agenda item number one. | 00:01:33 | |
| If you'll take the floor for us, please. | 00:01:38 | |
| So for Docket FC 4/26/22 with petitioner Dennis Lopez Junior. | 00:01:43 | |
| On a location of 2001 Spring Creek Dr. Fluids Knobs. | 00:01:48 | |
| There was a request for development standards variance to encroach on the build limit line. | 00:01:52 | |
| In the zoning district of Residential Suburban, this petition has been withdrawn. | 00:01:56 | |
| The applicant submitted a letter to be read before the board. | 00:02:00 | |
| Dennis and I wish to withdraw our request for permit approval on the proposed garage we submitted for 2001 Spring Creek Drive. | 00:02:04 | |
| We would like the committee to know that when we purchased our forever home, we were told that there was a previous. | 00:02:10 | |
| Non existent HOA and it is not in effect. | 00:02:15 | |
| We would not have purchased this home knowing we had such restrictions from 40 years ago. | 00:02:18 | |
| We thought we were going through the proper channels by having our land surveyed, utilities mapped out, permits obtained, plans | 00:02:23 | |
| drawn up and et cetera. | 00:02:25 | |
| Our deed had no conveyance attached and we were completely taken off guard. | 00:02:29 | |
| With all the said, since this seems to be what our community wants, we were. | 00:02:33 | |
| Sorry, we want to be good neighbors and withdraw our request at this time. | 00:02:36 | |
| Thank you. | 00:02:39 | |
| Miss Lopez. | 00:02:41 | |
| Alright, thank you, Frank. | 00:02:42 | |
| OK. | 00:02:44 | |
| At this time, we're going to. | 00:02:46 | |
| Agenda item number 2, Docket FC-04-26. | 00:02:49 | |
| Dash 24 zoning map amendment. | 00:02:54 | |
| Advocate Jason Deville. | 00:02:57 | |
| You'd like to take over, Frank? | 00:02:59 | |
| So I have a presentation that the applicant has. | 00:03:02 | |
| Submit it. | 00:03:07 | |
| So docket number FC-42624. | 00:03:20 | |
| Petitioner Jason Deville, location 3674 Scottsville Rd. Floyd's Knobs. | 00:03:24 | |
| A request for a zoning map amendment. A rezone from neighborhood commercial to multifamily. | 00:03:29 | |
| With the current zoning district as neighborhood commercial. | 00:03:34 | |
| The petitioner is requesting a change in zoning from neighborhood commercial to multifamily for senior. | 00:03:38 | |
| Housing Patio. | 00:03:42 | |
| The proposed site is 4.05 acres, located at the southeastern corner of Lafayette Parkway and Scottsville Rd. | 00:03:44 | |
| Just South and West of the chapters living of Floyds Knobs Independent and assisted living facility. | 00:03:50 | |
| These sites are located just north of the Paoli Price commercial corridor and to the east of Scottsville Rd. | 00:03:55 | |
| All within the Lafayette Township. | 00:04:00 | |
| The conceptual proposal for the site is for an upscale 55 plus senior living community consisting of 24 single story. | 00:04:02 | |
| A joint patio homes units. | 00:04:09 | |
| Arranged in four buildings of 6 units each with a dedicated Community Center building. | 00:04:11 | |
| For the exclusive use of residence. | 00:04:16 | |
| For staff comments. | 00:04:18 | |
| The Vision Floyd County Comprehensive Plan discusses this. | 00:04:20 | |
| Commercial corridor at Paley Pike as a smaller commercial area. Page 44. | 00:04:23 | |
| With the intent to provide local commercial needs for residents. | 00:04:28 | |
| This is comparable to a Main Street or town square style for developments providing commercial and recreational amenities for | 00:04:31 | |
| nearby neighborhoods. | 00:04:34 | |
| The vision for the Lafayette Township on page 54. | 00:04:38 | |
| Encourages concentration of commercial use on highlighter point Paoli. | 00:04:41 | |
| Infrastructure permitting. | 00:04:45 | |
| Further residential. | 00:04:47 | |
| Uses are to be directed toward existing infrastructure and to be discouraged within agricultural areas. | 00:04:48 | |
| Placement of mid to low density patio homes encourages the use of Paley Pike. | 00:04:54 | |
| Not just as strip malls along the highway, but as a village center with a supportive neighborhood. | 00:04:58 | |
| The comprehensive plan further indicates a preference within its community survey for housing options for senior citizens at 80% | 00:05:03 | |
| favorability. That's on page 24. | 00:05:07 | |
| This was then identified under the Places to Live theme as an action item. | 00:05:11 | |
| To encourage creation of senior housing partnerships. | 00:05:15 | |
| With senior oriented human service providers countrywide, including local municipal partners. | 00:05:17 | |
| That's on page 35. | 00:05:22 | |
| Lastly, the comprehensive plan outlines residential growth areas on page 42. | 00:05:23 | |
| And encourages that high density patio style housing be considered in areas in close proximity to main commercial areas. | 00:05:27 | |
| Multifamily development should be directed towards established urban areas based on proximity to existing services and density. | 00:05:34 | |
| Multifamily development should be limited to existing zoned areas or when development can provide immediate access to commercial. | 00:05:40 | |
| Alternate forms of transportation. | 00:05:46 | |
| And is incorporated as part of innovative conservation design. | 00:05:48 | |
| The proposed site is in proximity to a main commercial area and has close access to. | 00:05:52 | |
| Unassisted and independent living facility. | 00:05:57 | |
| #1 The rezoning of the subject property is consistent with the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan because. | 00:06:01 | |
| The conceptual proposal encourages development near the Paoli Pike commercial corridor. | 00:06:06 | |
| Proposes increased residential use away from agricultural areas. | 00:06:10 | |
| Proposes residential uses near existing infrastructure. | 00:06:14 | |
| Encourages a sense of place. | 00:06:17 | |
| Aligns with the community preferences for housing options for senior citizens. | 00:06:19 | |
| Adheres to the action item to encourage creation. | 00:06:22 | |
| Of senior housing partnerships. | 00:06:25 | |
| And places patio style housing in close proximity to a main commercial area as explicitly requested by the Comprehensive Plan. | 00:06:27 | |
| #2. | 00:06:33 | |
| The rezoning of the subject property is consistent with the current conditions and the character of. | 00:06:34 | |
| Current structures and uses in the area because the Paoli Pike corridor provides various commercial amenities to the South. | 00:06:38 | |
| While an existing assisted and independent living facility is located to the north. | 00:06:44 | |
| At least item 3, the rezoning of the subject property, is necessary for the most desirable use of the land because the current lot | 00:06:47 | |
| contains 2 underutilized buildings. | 00:06:52 | |
| While this proposal concentrates housing near amenities and places residents in an area where they will generate fewer traffic | 00:06:57 | |
| strip trips. | 00:07:00 | |
| Then if these were single family homes. | 00:07:04 | |
| The concentration of residential units here also preserves land compared to the same number of units were created in the lower | 00:07:06 | |
| density zone. | 00:07:09 | |
| Item 4 The rezoning of the subject property will not be injurious to the value of other properties in the area because. | 00:07:12 | |
| The commercial corridor is already a more intensive use and there are existing patio homes for independent living located along. | 00:07:18 | |
| Magnolia Lane to the east of the proposed site. | 00:07:24 | |
| Item 5. | 00:07:27 | |
| The rezoning of the subject property will support responsible growth and development in the area because. | 00:07:28 | |
| Residential units are concentrated in a way that ensures units have adequate infrastructure. | 00:07:33 | |
| This concentration of units requires less public infrastructure per housing unit. | 00:07:37 | |
| That the county has to maintain compared to lower density developments. | 00:07:41 | |
| There are commercial amenities in close proximity, cutting down on the number of traffic trips generated from these added | 00:07:44 | |
| residential units. | 00:07:48 | |
| For staff recommendations. | 00:07:51 | |
| Whereas the proposal matches with the spirit of the comprehensive plan, staff has no recommended conditions. | 00:07:53 | |
| I'd like to also go through. | 00:07:58 | |
| We've got a conceptual plan, there's a more updated one that the applicant will show. | 00:08:00 | |
| This is. | 00:08:05 | |
| A view of the site looking east from Scottsville Rd. | 00:08:07 | |
| This is another view looking used from Scottsville Rd. | 00:08:10 | |
| This is looking S from Lafayette Parkway. You can see the Magnolia Independent living homes. | 00:08:14 | |
| To the left there. | 00:08:19 | |
| View of the assisted living. | 00:08:21 | |
| Facility just north of the site. | 00:08:23 | |
| View the Commuter Sorry commercial area to the South of the site. | 00:08:25 | |
| The Berry twist there. | 00:08:29 | |
| View the commercial area to the southwest on the other side of Scottsville Rd. which is. | 00:08:31 | |
| The coffee crossing. Some other uses there. | 00:08:36 | |
| All right, that's all I have. | 00:08:42 | |
| All righty, anybody got any questions for? | 00:08:45 | |
| Frank at this time. | 00:08:48 | |
| OK, at this time we'd like to open up. | 00:08:50 | |
| No questions. | 00:08:54 | |
| John yeah, we, we surveyed this about 7 years ago. I'm going to. | 00:08:55 | |
| Recuse myself from this understand. | 00:08:59 | |
| And let the record show that Mister Welch has shown up. He is present. | 00:09:05 | |
| We got one leaving and one coming, so that's pretty good. | 00:09:11 | |
| All righty at this time. | 00:09:15 | |
| With no other questions, we'll open the floor to the applicant. | 00:09:17 | |
| An applicant has 10 minutes to present their. | 00:09:22 | |
| Thorough project. | 00:09:24 | |
| State your name. | 00:09:27 | |
| Address for the record For the record, John Craft, law firm of Young Landers and Craft, 126 W Spring St. New Albany, appearing on | 00:09:28 | |
| behalf of the applicant. | 00:09:32 | |
| As indicated, this is a zoning change and of course, in this particular instance, it's a downside. | 00:09:37 | |
| Uh, taking it from neighborhood commercial, when you look at the uses by right? | 00:09:43 | |
| What ultimately will be there will be much more favorable to traffic patterns. | 00:09:47 | |
| Likewise this because it comes to you on a rezone. | 00:09:53 | |
| Come to you for a recommendation, favorable. | 00:09:56 | |
| Unfavorable or no recommendation and then ultimately. | 00:09:59 | |
| Mr. Loop and his fellow Commissioners have the opportunity then. | 00:10:02 | |
| To look at those same 5 conditions with respect to the rezoning. | 00:10:06 | |
| Those, as indicated in the staff report, Mr. Walden did a very good job of doing my job. | 00:10:10 | |
| For me, because ultimately. | 00:10:16 | |
| In this particular instance, this is one that. | 00:10:17 | |
| Fits. You can check all the boxes for a change as opposed to. | 00:10:20 | |
| Me having to convince you to check those boxes. | 00:10:25 | |
| But those boxes primarily are set up by. | 00:10:28 | |
| 3674603. | 00:10:31 | |
| Dealing with the comprehensive plan. | 00:10:33 | |
| Again, Mr. Walden has done a very good job of dealing with. | 00:10:35 | |
| What this is where it's close to. | 00:10:38 | |
| Proximity to other uses. | 00:10:40 | |
| Current conditions and character of current structures. The photos that he showed you there at the end. | 00:10:43 | |
| Primarily give you that same impression of what all of those surrounding uses are. | 00:10:48 | |
| What all those surrounding users are? | 00:10:53 | |
| And then likewise most desirable use for which the land is adapted. | 00:10:56 | |
| Conservation of property values throughout the jurisdiction. | 00:11:00 | |
| As well as responsible development and growth. | 00:11:04 | |
| As indicated by. | 00:11:07 | |
| Mr. Walden, Mr. Neville, Mr. Jason Neville is here this evening to present you with a. | 00:11:09 | |
| A particular. | 00:11:15 | |
| Plan of what's going to happen he's got a PowerPoint presentation. I'll let him do that but before I do, I would like to make. | 00:11:17 | |
| Part of the record. | 00:11:23 | |
| A letter from Chad Motsinger, who is a licensed real estate broker. | 00:11:25 | |
| To address the item particular as to the most desirable use. | 00:11:29 | |
| As well as conservation. | 00:11:33 | |
| Of value properties throughout the jurisdiction. | 00:11:35 | |
| I'm going to read it quickly because of my time limitations, but dear Floyd County Building Development Services. | 00:11:38 | |
| In response to Agenda Item 2, Docket FC 042624 Zoning Map amendment. | 00:11:43 | |
| Applicant is requesting A zoning map. | 00:11:50 | |
| Change. | 00:11:52 | |
| From Neighborhood Commercial. | 00:11:53 | |
| To multifamily for a proposed senior patio community. | 00:11:55 | |
| Applicant Jason The Bill site, 3674 Scottsville Rd. Floyd Knox IN. | 00:11:58 | |
| And the parcel number and I won't read that. | 00:12:04 | |
| As a resident of the Woods of Lafayette and a local realtor, it's my personal opinion and belief that the best use. | 00:12:06 | |
| Of this property. | 00:12:12 | |
| Is in fact the proposed use. | 00:12:13 | |
| There have been many situations where I've been helping clients who are. | 00:12:15 | |
| From our area. | 00:12:19 | |
| In their search for more manageable housing. | 00:12:20 | |
| Who would prefer to stay close to their family and hometown? | 00:12:22 | |
| As opposed to moving away in search of similar developments. | 00:12:26 | |
| This would help fill that gap. | 00:12:29 | |
| In closing, it is my opinion that the development of this standard in quality. | 00:12:31 | |
| Will only increase the value of the surrounding properties by servicing this much needed local housing. | 00:12:36 | |
| Shortage. | 00:12:42 | |
| For our senior residents. | 00:12:43 | |
| Sincerely yours chat mot singer and likewise I would like to make. | 00:12:45 | |
| That part of the record. | 00:12:49 | |
| And then I'll let Mr. Nabil come up and address. | 00:12:50 | |
| Is PowerPoint. | 00:12:52 | |
| Thanks. Thank you, John. | 00:12:56 | |
| All right. | 00:13:05 | |
| Thank you. Hello. | 00:13:09 | |
| Just state your name and your address for record, Jason. | 00:13:11 | |
| 5511 Moser Knob Rd. Floyd's Knobs, Indiana. | 00:13:15 | |
| Lifelong resident Floyd Knotts. | 00:13:21 | |
| 4th generation owner of this proposed site. | 00:13:23 | |
| And property Appreciate the consideration for the proposed development. | 00:13:27 | |
| I feel like I spent a lifetime putting this together. | 00:13:33 | |
| Uh, here we go. | 00:13:37 | |
| The specific site mapped out here. | 00:13:40 | |
| And I've shared in the presentation with everybody. | 00:13:43 | |
| 4.05 acres, the original Berry Twist and my grandparents Sylvan and Jane Neville. | 00:13:46 | |
| Ordered by Scottsville Rd. Lafayette Parkway, Magnolia Lane. | 00:13:51 | |
| Book Heating and cooling Neighboring. | 00:13:55 | |
| Chapters Living. | 00:13:57 | |
| Facility. | 00:13:59 | |
| With regard to the history on the site. | 00:14:05 | |
| This site has always. | 00:14:08 | |
| Had a history of commerce and community for 100 plus years. | 00:14:10 | |
| In my family. | 00:14:14 | |
| From 1920 to 1970. | 00:14:16 | |
| It was the Neville family Berry market. | 00:14:18 | |
| Thriving marketplace for the exchange. Local farmers. | 00:14:21 | |
| And merchant buyers from around Chicago, Cincinnati, and so forth that they trucked all over. I've got some images there of former | 00:14:25 | |
| building structures. | 00:14:29 | |
| Uh, packing labels, some of the the trucks and everything. | 00:14:33 | |
| Also from 1978 to 2000. | 00:14:37 | |
| The ice cream shop. The Berry Twist. | 00:14:40 | |
| Which my family started. | 00:14:42 | |
| Which became a community hub and icon for their still in operation 48 plus years. | 00:14:45 | |
| In the community, so very excited and proud about that. | 00:14:52 | |
| And hopefully proposed in 2026. Proposed. | 00:14:56 | |
| Senior Community. | 00:15:01 | |
| And I shared the photos there to add a little bit of humor there for you. From 1981. The original Barry twist with a gravel | 00:15:02 | |
| parking lot. | 00:15:07 | |
| And then me, my sister and my cousin. | 00:15:11 | |
| In 1982. | 00:15:15 | |
| With our tall socks. | 00:15:17 | |
| 1980s. | 00:15:19 | |
| Attire and everything for. | 00:15:21 | |
| Entertainment. | 00:15:23 | |
| The proposed development in everything. | 00:15:25 | |
| I went around and researched for the patio home development, pulling from local Design element. | 00:15:29 | |
| The historic schoolhouse from across the street. | 00:15:34 | |
| Utilizing the. | 00:15:39 | |
| Stone Foundation. The architectural brick design elements. | 00:15:41 | |
| That you'll see in the schoolhouse there. | 00:15:45 | |
| For the exterior of the patio home design. | 00:15:48 | |
| Schubert Corner the. | 00:15:52 | |
| Cable market awnings for front covered patio. | 00:15:55 | |
| Sylvan and Jane Neville's home. | 00:15:59 | |
| The X grid windows incorporating into. | 00:16:02 | |
| Garden windows. | 00:16:06 | |
| And the original Berry shed that was there. | 00:16:08 | |
| The rectangular market and everything that they utilized. | 00:16:11 | |
| For the Community Center. | 00:16:15 | |
| So this is. | 00:16:20 | |
| The proposed. | 00:16:21 | |
| Elevation and everything of the patio home. | 00:16:25 | |
| Here again, like we had shared before. | 00:16:29 | |
| Four pods of 6. | 00:16:33 | |
| Around the property. | 00:16:35 | |
| With these. | 00:16:37 | |
| All brick. Full brick. | 00:16:39 | |
| Stone Foundation. | 00:16:41 | |
| Each individual. | 00:16:43 | |
| Unit. | 00:16:45 | |
| Having. | 00:16:46 | |
| Different colored brick all in I. | 00:16:47 | |
| With cohesive color flow and everything for that. | 00:16:50 | |
| And with those market awnings and everything that we had. | 00:16:55 | |
| And together also. | 00:16:58 | |
| So those are the different elevations and everything we had initially. | 00:16:59 | |
| And the units are single story. You'll see the the three small windows above. | 00:17:04 | |
| It's just for a. | 00:17:09 | |
| Elevated. | 00:17:10 | |
| In the great room and everything that you'll see on the next slide here into the kitchen. | 00:17:13 | |
| For it so it slopes, so that provides additional lighting and everything. | 00:17:19 | |
| Into the area there. | 00:17:23 | |
| All of the homes will be ADA accessible. | 00:17:25 | |
| 12109 square feet, two-bedroom, 2 bath. | 00:17:28 | |
| Covered rear patio. | 00:17:32 | |
| With kitchen access. | 00:17:34 | |
| I've toured and walked through. | 00:17:36 | |
| The chapters Living independent living villas. | 00:17:40 | |
| In the back there off of Magnolia Lane also. | 00:17:45 | |
| Some of their back patios you have to walk through the master bedroom to get to and others. | 00:17:48 | |
| This is a very convenient off of the kitchen. | 00:17:54 | |
| Directly for guests so they. | 00:17:58 | |
| Guests wouldn't have to walk through a lesser bedroom. | 00:17:59 | |
| To get to the patio also. | 00:18:02 | |
| No steps. | 00:18:05 | |
| This is a level. | 00:18:07 | |
| Lot and everything that we have here so. | 00:18:08 | |
| From entry to the front, making sure that there's. | 00:18:11 | |
| It's handicap accessible. | 00:18:15 | |
| Extra deep garage storage. | 00:18:18 | |
| Second bedroom also can be multi-purpose. | 00:18:20 | |
| There and we've got proposed built-in Murphy bed so that yes. | 00:18:25 | |
| Coming over or? | 00:18:29 | |
| Grandchildren or whatever. | 00:18:30 | |
| For that. | 00:18:33 | |
| The next. | 00:18:34 | |
| Is the proposed layout. | 00:18:37 | |
| Of the development and just kind of marking up a little bit where you can see. | 00:18:41 | |
| The right of ways, the easements, the floodplain. | 00:18:46 | |
| This is done to scale. | 00:18:50 | |
| This initial drawing and everything was done. | 00:18:53 | |
| In pods of three versus 6. | 00:18:57 | |
| With six, we're able to have more green space. | 00:18:59 | |
| And park area for it. | 00:19:03 | |
| So you'll see that entrance off of Lafayette Parkway directly across. | 00:19:05 | |
| From chapters living, so there's accessibility. | 00:19:11 | |
| Directly across the street there. | 00:19:14 | |
| Wind dance farms. | 00:19:19 | |
| Owns a thin strip of land. | 00:19:21 | |
| All along Lafayette Parkway, so you'll see. | 00:19:24 | |
| Denoted in green. | 00:19:27 | |
| There I met with **** lives. | 00:19:29 | |
| And wind dance farms. And I have a letter of authorization from them. | 00:19:32 | |
| For us to work together, it's included in all of this for you. | 00:19:36 | |
| Also that they would work with us to. | 00:19:41 | |
| Have access to Lafayette Parkway? | 00:19:44 | |
| Circular Dr. and St. | 00:19:48 | |
| Curved Stonewall at the entrance. | 00:19:50 | |
| Swing Park. | 00:19:53 | |
| Kind of a historical thing for us. | 00:19:55 | |
| For my grandparents who sat on that back patio. | 00:19:59 | |
| In the swing, watching traffic up and down the road consistently. | 00:20:02 | |
| Because they could see all their neighbors and everybody else coming by. | 00:20:07 | |
| They would stop by. | 00:20:10 | |
| And so I've got a dedicated, etched out Sylvan and Jane Neville swing. | 00:20:12 | |
| In everything for that area. | 00:20:17 | |
| The Community Center building you'll see and the. | 00:20:20 | |
| The far. | 00:20:25 | |
| Top right. | 00:20:28 | |
| Corner of the property and everything there again, that's modeled after the old Berry shed. | 00:20:29 | |
| That's there. | 00:20:35 | |
| Supplemental parking. | 00:20:36 | |
| So they don't have to have parking on the street. | 00:20:38 | |
| Right now on Magnolia Lane, you'll see people. | 00:20:41 | |
| Parking on the streets. | 00:20:43 | |
| And everything there for the drives. | 00:20:45 | |
| I've been talking with and working with chapters living directly. | 00:20:49 | |
| The new owner, Danny Stryker, is the CEO. They're based out of Saint Louis. | 00:20:53 | |
| We're working on having some shared services with the community back and forth. | 00:20:58 | |
| And so. | 00:21:04 | |
| That's a great partnership that. | 00:21:05 | |
| We formed there. | 00:21:07 | |
| And he sees it also, and this was one of his recommendations. | 00:21:09 | |
| To me for garden villas because of the extensive wait list. | 00:21:13 | |
| That they have for their independent living. | 00:21:17 | |
| When we last checked, they had an 18 month waiting list. | 00:21:20 | |
| Um, there for that. | 00:21:24 | |
| The Community Center building these are some conceptual. | 00:21:30 | |
| Items and everything and I'll I'll show you what we've got mapped out. | 00:21:34 | |
| With all without any other final. | 00:21:38 | |
| Edits and stuff. | 00:21:40 | |
| But to have a modern lobby? | 00:21:42 | |
| Gathering space for residents at the entrance that you'll see. | 00:21:45 | |
| In the picture on the top left. | 00:21:49 | |
| Having a dual indoor outdoor fireplace. | 00:21:51 | |
| Within the lobby and the front patio. | 00:21:55 | |
| There's a catering, kitchen, office, storage room, 2 restrooms. | 00:21:59 | |
| A Wellness fitness studio. | 00:22:03 | |
| Activity multi-purpose area Rear. | 00:22:05 | |
| Garden patio with raised. | 00:22:08 | |
| Garden beds and stuff in the back. | 00:22:11 | |
| So you'll see just some of the conceptual images and stuff there. | 00:22:13 | |
| This is. | 00:22:18 | |
| Without all of the edits and everything to. | 00:22:19 | |
| The initial the front lobby area will be more. | 00:22:23 | |
| Modern design that we've got built into it, but as far as the structure and you can see how it kind of mimics. | 00:22:27 | |
| The rectangular Berry shed building that was there. | 00:22:33 | |
| This is the interior. | 00:22:42 | |
| You'll see that in the bottom left on the screen there. | 00:22:45 | |
| The entrance to the lobby area, gathering space and everything that's there. | 00:22:49 | |
| The front patio, the dual fireplace, office, restroom, storage. | 00:22:55 | |
| Fitness. | 00:23:00 | |
| Catering kitchen, that's there. | 00:23:02 | |
| The garden area. | 00:23:04 | |
| On the backside. | 00:23:07 | |
| With proposed glass garage door so it extends that multi-purpose room out to the rear. | 00:23:08 | |
| Garden Patio. | 00:23:14 | |
| So in kind of summary here. | 00:23:18 | |
| The proposal is for senior independent living. | 00:23:21 | |
| ADA handicap accessible. | 00:23:24 | |
| Low density. | 00:23:26 | |
| Minimal traffic impact for this development. | 00:23:28 | |
| It's close proximity to the commercial area. | 00:23:33 | |
| The design is consistent with other. | 00:23:36 | |
| Current structures and uses. | 00:23:39 | |
| The chapter senior living both. | 00:23:41 | |
| Bordering us on the north and the east side. | 00:23:43 | |
| It's responsible growth and development of this site. | 00:23:48 | |
| It's a low impact on the infrastructure. | 00:23:51 | |
| Two-bedroom, 2 bathroom, single story patio homes with a garage. 12109 square feet. | 00:23:55 | |
| Creates an active community. | 00:24:00 | |
| Front porch, community buildings, Green Park space. | 00:24:02 | |
| That's there the community building having. | 00:24:07 | |
| Resident gathering space. | 00:24:09 | |
| Indoor outdoor patios. Garden fitness. | 00:24:12 | |
| Wellness activities. | 00:24:15 | |
| Community entry from Lafayette Parkway. | 00:24:17 | |
| Directly across from the chapters living entrance. | 00:24:19 | |
| There's a pedestrian access path. | 00:24:22 | |
| That we're looking at adding. | 00:24:25 | |
| 2 Magnolia Lane. | 00:24:27 | |
| To the Community Center building where there would be. | 00:24:28 | |
| And access. | 00:24:31 | |
| Ramp there. So there's connectivity. So if we have some shared services. | 00:24:33 | |
| And everything there for that. | 00:24:38 | |
| And then also having an aesthetic. | 00:24:40 | |
| Perimeter fence around the entire property. | 00:24:42 | |
| With privacy landscape for both our community and the residents. | 00:24:45 | |
| This is a copy of the letter from **** Libs for Lafayette Parkway Access. | 00:24:51 | |
| That's there also. | 00:24:58 | |
| Alrighty. | 00:25:00 | |
| Thank you very much to having. | 00:25:01 | |
| Questions at this time. | 00:25:03 | |
| I've got 1 you mentioned earlier in your presentation. | 00:25:05 | |
| That the buildings are proposed to be up, Rick. | 00:25:08 | |
| Yes. Do you mind that, that we make that a condition, a real commitment? | 00:25:13 | |
| OK, alright. | 00:25:17 | |
| OK, that's the only question I had. | 00:25:18 | |
| This is my legacy plan so I I'm not looking to build and flip this is. | 00:25:20 | |
| Forever. | 00:25:26 | |
| So will there be a? | 00:25:27 | |
| Minimum age. | 00:25:29 | |
| For people that live in here or five. | 00:25:30 | |
| Plus. | 00:25:32 | |
| 55 plus us. | 00:25:34 | |
| Yeah, me too. Speak for yourself. | 00:25:37 | |
| Let me just real quick close, if I may please. Jason's gone through much of what you're going to see with the development plans. | 00:25:44 | |
| As we indicated at the very beginning, tonight is just. | 00:25:53 | |
| Land use for 9 times out of 10. | 00:25:56 | |
| The question always asked, what are you going to do? | 00:25:58 | |
| So by virtue of what he's done tonight. | 00:26:01 | |
| He's giving you that idea. | 00:26:03 | |
| Of what he plans on doing with this. | 00:26:05 | |
| And certain ways Mr. Andrew is committed. | 00:26:07 | |
| Mr. Biebelhauser made the comment as well. | 00:26:10 | |
| Written commitments can be placed and as he indicated. | 00:26:12 | |
| This is what he wants to do and this is his family legacy. Absolutely. We've been approached by other multifamily for apartment | 00:26:16 | |
| complexes and so forth. | 00:26:20 | |
| We're looking forward to doing something responsible, single story. | 00:26:24 | |
| Not looking. | 00:26:29 | |
| Or the current commercial? | 00:26:31 | |
| Utilization of. | 00:26:34 | |
| OK. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. | 00:26:36 | |
| OK, at this time we open the floor. | 00:26:38 | |
| To anybody. | 00:26:41 | |
| We have 10 minutes segment here. Anybody wants to speak in favor of this project? | 00:26:43 | |
| Please come forward and we state your name and address and we give you. | 00:26:48 | |
| We get 10 minutes. | 00:26:53 | |
| And could you start the timer please? | 00:26:55 | |
| Thank you. | 00:26:57 | |
| My name is Larry Book. I own the book Heating and Cooling which is just South of the proposed. | 00:26:58 | |
| Zoning change. | 00:27:03 | |
| But go ahead and state your address, if you will. 3584 Scottsville Rd. | 00:27:05 | |
| Thank you. | 00:27:08 | |
| I've been a neighbor to Jason's grandfather. | 00:27:09 | |
| Even before Jason and his dad bought the property. | 00:27:13 | |
| I've been there 40 years and. | 00:27:16 | |
| They've taken really good care of the area. They're very responsible people. | 00:27:18 | |
| I'm happy with his design. Umm, I thought I I was concerned it might be some large development, you know, multi story with. | 00:27:23 | |
| With all the. | 00:27:32 | |
| Traffic issues. We have the Scottsville Rd. I was concerned about additional traffic and stuff so this looks like a manageable. | 00:27:33 | |
| I, I, you know, I'm 100% behind it. I think it's going to be an asset. I think we need it. | 00:27:41 | |
| I I know this is a zoning thing and I guess down the road we'll actually have the everything else brought back up as far as the. | 00:27:48 | |
| The design of everything that the only, the only thing is that ramp that goes between, you know, Magnolia Lane and comes in the | 00:27:54 | |
| rear part of it to the Community Center. | 00:27:59 | |
| You know, I'm not really sure about, you know, how that will work and how people will access in and out of that. I think Jason | 00:28:05 | |
| told me that there would be some type of security there to where people. | 00:28:10 | |
| Can't just come through there because there's a lot of people that walk between the Berry Twist and Woods Lafayette. | 00:28:14 | |
| And, you know, we don't want a bunch of people, you know, like coming in and out of there and he's gonna fence around it, which I | 00:28:20 | |
| thought was a great idea to keep people from just walking through because there is a lot of people. | 00:28:25 | |
| That, you know, travel back and forth through there. | 00:28:30 | |
| But I Scottsville Rd. traffic is really bad and I think this works with what what we have there. But even without this, you know, | 00:28:33 | |
| it's really. | 00:28:38 | |
| It's kind of hectic in there, so I I think it's something that works with. | 00:28:44 | |
| You know the road that we have. | 00:28:48 | |
| But with future development and stuff like that. | 00:28:50 | |
| You know, down the road we might. | 00:28:53 | |
| Might need a four lane Rd. there. I mean it's really busy. I get in out of my office. | 00:28:56 | |
| We have a hard time getting out. The only reason we can get out is people stop and let us out. You know, there's always traffic | 00:29:00 | |
| coming from schools. | 00:29:03 | |
| People speed up and down Scottsdale Rd. Awful. | 00:29:07 | |
| I talked to a state trooper. He said that they won't even give a ticket unless they're going about 45 because everybody on the | 00:29:11 | |
| road would be getting pulled over. So to me, traffic needs to slow down there. It's, it's really, you know, something that is a | 00:29:16 | |
| concern of mine. I want to make sure. | 00:29:21 | |
| That I have. | 00:29:27 | |
| Good visibility to pull down my parking lot. With what Jason's proposing to do, it looks like it's gonna be off the road enough to | 00:29:28 | |
| for me allow the visibility. So. | 00:29:32 | |
| I I think it's a good thing and I'm happy to see that they're doing something with it. I don't like to see vacant property | 00:29:37 | |
| setting. | 00:29:39 | |
| I know he's been trying to do this for a long time. He spent a long time on it. | 00:29:43 | |
| It looks like he's made good use of that time. | 00:29:46 | |
| Thank you, Larry. | 00:29:51 | |
| Anybody else like to speak in favor? Please step forward to state your name and address for the record. | 00:29:53 | |
| All righty. Then we're going to close that portion portion. | 00:30:02 | |
| At this time, we're going to open up the floor be 10 minutes for anybody will speak in opposition to the project. | 00:30:05 | |
| Once again come forward, state your name and address for the record. | 00:30:12 | |
| My name is Joe Stanley. | 00:30:19 | |
| I live at 3610 Lafayette Parkway. | 00:30:20 | |
| I'm not really arguing for or against it. I'm still trying to figure out whether I do want to argue for or against it. | 00:30:26 | |
| Process. | 00:30:32 | |
| I do have some questions about. | 00:30:33 | |
| The design layout. | 00:30:36 | |
| As he went through, I guess that includes books property. | 00:30:38 | |
| Hope, Sir, you. | 00:30:41 | |
| Your questions have to come toward us. | 00:30:43 | |
| And just let me just remind you this is, this is a, this is a rezone as far as the development standards and. | 00:30:45 | |
| The roads and how it's laid out and all that. | 00:30:53 | |
| That has to come back once the rezoning, so we're not. | 00:30:56 | |
| We're not approving his entrances and we're not getting to that detail right now. We're, you know, we're at 30,000 feet all we're | 00:30:59 | |
| doing as a result. | 00:31:03 | |
| So as far as the details, we can't answer that, nor do we ask him to answer that at this time. | 00:31:07 | |
| So everything you went through is not being as far as the rezoning approval then? | 00:31:12 | |
| That's that's his concept, that's conceptual right now. | 00:31:16 | |
| And I'm saying that correct, Correct. | 00:31:20 | |
| That is correct, yeah. So. | 00:31:21 | |
| What you, what you're we're asking here tonight is a rezone of the property so he can continue on. | 00:31:24 | |
| With his development standards because. | 00:31:30 | |
| There's there's a lot that goes into that. We don't get into that this time. There's a lot of staff involvement in that. And we, | 00:31:32 | |
| we, we would spend hours here tonight trying to, to, to, to design this project so. | 00:31:38 | |
| All we're trying to do is say that the gentleman wants to put in. | 00:31:45 | |
| He was put in senior living. He wants to build the type of buildings he's building. | 00:31:48 | |
| And and he's looking for a rezone. | 00:31:52 | |
| I hope I explained it properly. Yeah. So the design process is we're going to another hearing on that, so. | 00:31:55 | |
| I'll have a chance to say yay or nay against. | 00:32:01 | |
| What design process is going to be if what they're asking for requires A variance that's? | 00:32:04 | |
| Well, let Nick speak to that. Nick can answer your questions. | 00:32:11 | |
| So so the the development work will require a development. | 00:32:15 | |
| Plan which has a development plan review. | 00:32:20 | |
| Which if they're they are not asking for a variance. Those are held at a public meeting. | 00:32:23 | |
| The technical review committee. | 00:32:29 | |
| Meeting. Those are not public hearings, however, right? Right. If it comes back before the Plan Commission board, it will be. | 00:32:31 | |
| Be a public hearing. | 00:32:37 | |
| Or you will be able to speak and if they are asking for any kind of variance against our normal standards. | 00:32:39 | |
| Then they would have to come. | 00:32:44 | |
| Two level plan Commission. | 00:32:46 | |
| Otherwise, if their plan meets all the elements of our zoning ordinance, then they're not required to come back before this board. | 00:32:50 | |
| They would have a technical review. | 00:32:53 | |
| Committee meeting where that development could be approved that way. So if you have any concerns related to the zoning issue, you | 00:32:57 | |
| can raise those to this board, not to the applicant and then they can. | 00:33:02 | |
| Consider what you have to say. | 00:33:08 | |
| OK. So you're staying up? | 00:33:10 | |
| There I may have the option. | 00:33:12 | |
| To not even say anything about the design process and how it's being laid out, if it goes through, if it meets. | 00:33:13 | |
| The criteria. | 00:33:19 | |
| Of the zoning ordinances. | 00:33:21 | |
| The current The current zoning. | 00:33:23 | |
| And our development standards then at that point? | 00:33:25 | |
| He he does not have to have a public hearing, but if he if he asked for any variances from that, then he has to come in front of. | 00:33:28 | |
| One of our boards to get permission for that and that be a public. | 00:33:35 | |
| But where the variances? Where does that leave? | 00:33:39 | |
| A homeowner then if if I don't like the variance, you come to a public meeting and you state your opposition to that variance is | 00:33:42 | |
| what you do. | 00:33:46 | |
| Publicly tonight, We're Here for a Change is currently going to be an option to do that. | 00:33:50 | |
| Not necessarily. | 00:33:54 | |
| That's why I'm confused currently. We're here tonight. It's currently neighborhood commercial and they are trying to move the | 00:33:57 | |
| property to a multifamily. So it's a down zone. So we're here to talk about a zoning. | 00:34:02 | |
| So with that in mind, they have. | 00:34:08 | |
| Presented to this board what their plans are for that property. But again, they'll have to go through that development process | 00:34:10 | |
| through the technical review committee and then if they want any changes from the zoning ordinance, they would have to ask the | 00:34:14 | |
| board for those changes. | 00:34:19 | |
| The the county ordinance for multifamily states all the things that he's required to do. | 00:34:25 | |
| Is where you're saying that? | 00:34:32 | |
| If it beats ordinances. | 00:34:34 | |
| Then it goes through without. | 00:34:36 | |
| A resident, you know, homeowner being able to say yay or nay against if a homeowner was, I mean, that leaves us with no insight to | 00:34:39 | |
| be able to say we like it or don't like it because I do have concerns about. | 00:34:44 | |
| The design process. | 00:34:50 | |
| I do have concerns about the entrance off of Lafayette Parkway. That's that seems a little. | 00:34:52 | |
| It's a little congested right there. | 00:34:57 | |
| If a homeowner wants to develop their property within the zoning ordinances and they're allowed to do that without. | 00:34:59 | |
| Further. | 00:35:05 | |
| Variances from this body. | 00:35:07 | |
| But again, we're here tonight on the zoning issue changing from neighborhood commercial to multifamily. And so if you have any | 00:35:10 | |
| issues with that, then now is your time to voice those to this board. | 00:35:14 | |
| So how do I get involved in the design process as far as seeing what? | 00:35:23 | |
| We're not going to give you any further legal advice. We're here tonight on a zoning issue. I would suggest that. | 00:35:27 | |
| Just go talk to Mr. Neville there and. | 00:35:33 | |
| Ask him what he's gonna do and if you don't like it. | 00:35:36 | |
| Then watch the meetings and come back and. | 00:35:40 | |
| Stand right where you're at and tell us you don't like it. | 00:35:43 | |
| OK, but he's he's very open I'm. | 00:35:48 | |
| You'll you'll talk to you. | 00:35:52 | |
| OK, just state your name and address for the record please. | 00:35:59 | |
| Linda Lapalooza, 3603 Lafayette Parkway. | 00:36:02 | |
| My home was probably photographed in one of those pictures that were shown because we're that close. | 00:36:08 | |
| So I'd like to say that I'm also a licensed realtor and has have been for 25 years and I'm a member of the National Association of | 00:36:15 | |
| Realtors as well. | 00:36:19 | |
| And I will say the thing that concerns me the most is that Scottsville Rd. is already a busy 2 lane highway serving residents, | 00:36:26 | |
| schools and assisted living facility. | 00:36:31 | |
| And commuters. | 00:36:36 | |
| An additional height, you know. | 00:36:38 | |
| High density development. I know we want to clock it as low density but it will increase. | 00:36:39 | |
| Congestion, traffic, noise. | 00:36:44 | |
| And strain on the infrastructure. | 00:36:46 | |
| And all of these changes, respectfully, can diminish fire perception and weaken long term value appreciation. | 00:36:49 | |
| For neighboring. | 00:36:57 | |
| Properties. | 00:36:58 | |
| I just wanted to say I respectfully request the Floyd County Planning Commission to. | 00:37:00 | |
| When considering a zoning change, you know at minimum require the low density preservation minded plan. | 00:37:06 | |
| I appreciate what Jason Neville has presented. | 00:37:11 | |
| He was also respectable enough to say he reached out to me a couple weeks ago and said. | 00:37:15 | |
| When you have a moment, like to chat with you. | 00:37:20 | |
| I did call him back. | 00:37:23 | |
| His voicemail was full. | 00:37:24 | |
| So I didn't have an opportunity to connect, but you know, I keep in mind that Floyd County is Indiana's second smallest county by | 00:37:25 | |
| land area, yet already its population density is approximately 555 people per square mile. | 00:37:32 | |
| So I feel like the Knobs is rapidly losing their rural beauty and green space that families moved here to enjoy. That's why we | 00:37:40 | |
| moved there and. | 00:37:44 | |
| You know, once the farmland in the open space is developed, they're gone forever. | 00:37:48 | |
| Um, I also think that I know that we're not against growth. We're just asking for a smart balanced. | 00:37:54 | |
| Growth that respects existing restaurants, residents, preserves open space and protects the character of Floyd's Knobs for future | 00:38:00 | |
| generations. | 00:38:05 | |
| And I would ask that all of these, I would say that. | 00:38:10 | |
| The most important thing we respectfully ask is that. | 00:38:14 | |
| Concerning this rezoning. | 00:38:17 | |
| To especially ensure. | 00:38:19 | |
| That it would not be permitted. | 00:38:22 | |
| To become. | 00:38:24 | |
| Apartment buildings. | 00:38:25 | |
| Which we understand. | 00:38:27 | |
| Qualify under the multifamily zoning permit. | 00:38:30 | |
| That would be. | 00:38:34 | |
| So does it go as a matter of record? But that what he. | 00:38:36 | |
| Applied for was patio homes. | 00:38:39 | |
| Again, we're only here tonight on a zoning change. | 00:38:44 | |
| From Neighborhood Commercial. | 00:38:46 | |
| Where they currently are allowed to do anything under the zoning ordinance and neighborhood commercial and they're requesting to | 00:38:48 | |
| move to a multifamily and the multifamily would allow apartment buildings. | 00:38:52 | |
| If if he took it further and got a further variance. | 00:38:57 | |
| That would be another hearing where? | 00:39:01 | |
| They can say, hey, we want to build apartments or let's say he sells it tomorrow to you. | 00:39:03 | |
| And you want to put apartments? | 00:39:09 | |
| Then you would have to come in here. | 00:39:11 | |
| Can say. | 00:39:13 | |
| This is what my concept is. | 00:39:14 | |
| And then? | 00:39:16 | |
| We could vote yay or nay. | 00:39:17 | |
| Again, I do want to go back though if if it's. | 00:39:20 | |
| By right and he follows the zoning ordinance, sure he will be allowed to do that without any other hearing before this board. | 00:39:23 | |
| OK. | 00:39:30 | |
| Currently it's zoned neighborhood commercial. | 00:39:31 | |
| And he can develop that property as neighborhood commercial if the multifamily is not approved, which I think would probably have | 00:39:33 | |
| a significant amount of traffic compared to what he's proposing right now to be honest with neighborhood commercial would be. | 00:39:39 | |
| A lot busier. | 00:39:44 | |
| And to your concern that you stated as far as traffic? | 00:39:45 | |
| I think there's going to be less traffic with what he's proposing. | 00:39:49 | |
| Yeah, I appreciate you saying that. We discussed that with John Kraft earlier and that's what you know, but. | 00:39:51 | |
| You know, you understand our preservation of wanting to just minimize the congestion and further. | 00:39:57 | |
| Confusion and. | 00:40:03 | |
| I hope that it works out because that's a great family here at Edge. So thank you for your time and your thank you. | 00:40:04 | |
| OK, we have 5 minutes left. | 00:40:11 | |
| No, we don't have 5 minutes. | 00:40:15 | |
| Please stop the timer on you. You reset it. OK, well that portion is done. | 00:40:17 | |
| A lot of time trying to, yeah, yeah, I think you have one more person that would like to speak. | 00:40:23 | |
| Yeah, come here, allow whoever wants to. | 00:40:30 | |
| Absolutely. | 00:40:32 | |
| State your name and address please. Barbara Bridgewater, 3729 Scottsdale Rd. | 00:40:36 | |
| I perhaps only have. | 00:40:42 | |
| A clarification. We'll see where this goes. | 00:40:44 | |
| And I do wanna. | 00:40:46 | |
| Thank Franklin because he met with me and tried to explain some things. | 00:40:49 | |
| But I just want to ensure that everybody's on the same path. | 00:40:53 | |
| When I look. | 00:40:56 | |
| If the map the colored map. | 00:40:57 | |
| It's hard to tell. | 00:41:01 | |
| By the colors. | 00:41:03 | |
| What things are? | 00:41:05 | |
| Really. | 00:41:06 | |
| Where the dividing line is between. | 00:41:08 | |
| Various zoning. | 00:41:10 | |
| Classifications. | 00:41:12 | |
| I'm across the road. | 00:41:14 | |
| Is that going to remain? | 00:41:17 | |
| Neighborhood Commercial. | 00:41:19 | |
| The only thing that will change is the parcel that is has an application. Yes, yes. | 00:41:23 | |
| And I think. | 00:41:32 | |
| Perhaps just a comment? | 00:41:33 | |
| Related to what the gentleman made. | 00:41:39 | |
| There's A to be a pond, a holding pond or something. | 00:41:43 | |
| With Jason. | 00:41:47 | |
| Proposal. | 00:41:48 | |
| I'm living back. | 00:41:51 | |
| Almost, I don't know, 15 years ago when Azalea Hills came in and they had to hold the club. | 00:41:53 | |
| Also have two. | 00:41:58 | |
| And they were going to be dry. | 00:42:00 | |
| And there's one, and it's filled with water. | 00:42:02 | |
| And every time there's a flood. | 00:42:04 | |
| It washes out my driveway completely and I have to. | 00:42:06 | |
| Spend a lot of money to take care of that and I don't want to see that happening. | 00:42:09 | |
| That probably might not affect my house, but it'll affect my neighbor's house, so I just I'm concerned about. | 00:42:13 | |
| About that. | 00:42:18 | |
| So. | 00:42:20 | |
| Did you say you're across the street on Scottsville? | 00:42:22 | |
| Yeah, right on the Creek. | 00:42:27 | |
| OK. | 00:42:29 | |
| OK. Thank you. | 00:42:30 | |
| That's I think it's a good point. I don't know what we can do. | 00:42:36 | |
| Did you want? | 00:42:47 | |
| Do we have time? | 00:42:53 | |
| Excuse me? | 00:42:58 | |
| My name is Shelly Stevenson. I'm a. | 00:43:00 | |
| A joint owner of 3703 Scottsdale Rd. which is right across from the. | 00:43:09 | |
| Lafayette Parkway entrance. | 00:43:13 | |
| And I just wanted to echo their concerns, just that we had about just the traffic. I know it's less. | 00:43:15 | |
| Traffic than it could be with apartments and all, but just that traffic coming out of that. | 00:43:21 | |
| Parkway because our driveway is right. | 00:43:25 | |
| Directly across. | 00:43:27 | |
| And just one. | 00:43:28 | |
| To see if the consideration I understand Magnolia. | 00:43:30 | |
| Lane might be a. | 00:43:34 | |
| Private drive to just see if. | 00:43:35 | |
| Possibly there's an additional. | 00:43:37 | |
| Entrance exit that can be made there to alleviate some of the traffic and. | 00:43:39 | |
| Have coming out on Paley Pike instead of. | 00:43:42 | |
| Everybody happened to go Scottsville Rd. | 00:43:45 | |
| It's one thing for the residents, but when you look at that Community Center, it looks. | 00:43:47 | |
| I don't know what capacity size wasn't mentioned, but it looks rather large and if you have a big event. | 00:43:50 | |
| Everybody's filing out of that. | 00:43:55 | |
| Community Center at the same time, probably in the evenings, at night. | 00:43:57 | |
| That's just a lot of traffic trying to turn left. | 00:44:00 | |
| Chances are they'll be turning left on Scottsville Rd. most of them. And that's just a lot of traffic. | 00:44:02 | |
| Just suggest seeing about a consideration of an alternative. | 00:44:07 | |
| Option to have more than one way in and out to alleviate some of the Scottsville Rd. pressure. | 00:44:12 | |
| Thank you. | 00:44:17 | |
| OK at this time. | 00:44:19 | |
| Applicant like to come back up and. | 00:44:23 | |
| Speak. | 00:44:26 | |
| I will be very brief and and each of you have kind of indicated that to the members of the public tonight, but. | 00:44:29 | |
| This is merely a land use. It has nothing to do with what was. | 00:44:35 | |
| Presented certainly as I indicated. | 00:44:39 | |
| 9 times out of 10 when somebody's. | 00:44:41 | |
| Doing a zoning change. | 00:44:44 | |
| Everybody asks what you're going to do and when they say don't know. | 00:44:45 | |
| That's kind of that red flag. | 00:44:49 | |
| The idea tonight with Jason doing what he did was give everybody. | 00:44:51 | |
| A feel for what was going to be done. | 00:44:55 | |
| But as I indicated tonight, is actually a down zone. | 00:44:57 | |
| From Neighborhood commercial, when you look at all of the by right uses, I think Mr. Andrew made the comment about. | 00:45:00 | |
| This is probably going to generate less traffic I think when you look at the buy right uses that could be placed there. | 00:45:07 | |
| I would agree with him. | 00:45:13 | |
| But I think ultimately your considerations are only those that are set out. | 00:45:14 | |
| In the statute. | 00:45:18 | |
| And again, primarily comprehensive plan. | 00:45:20 | |
| Current conditions, character most desirable use, conservation of property values and responsible development and growth. | 00:45:23 | |
| So I indicated Mr. Walden did a very good job of explaining that. | 00:45:29 | |
| And I would ask that you follow his recommendations by virtue. | 00:45:33 | |
| Of answering all of those questions. | 00:45:37 | |
| Those five elements. | 00:45:39 | |
| In positive. | 00:45:41 | |
| To grant that. Thank you. | 00:45:42 | |
| And I have a question for Misterville. You could come forward. Please just state your name. | 00:45:43 | |
| Address for the record again. | 00:45:49 | |
| Yep, Jason, OK. | 00:45:51 | |
| Yes, in this data's name and address. Jason Neville, 5511. | 00:45:55 | |
| Sorry I got my mind million places. I'm with you. | 00:45:59 | |
| OK, so. | 00:46:02 | |
| You've agreed that we can put a written commitment that they'd be all stone all. | 00:46:04 | |
| Yes, Sir, our stone. OK. | 00:46:08 | |
| Would you agree to a written commitment? | 00:46:10 | |
| That it will not go multi multi story that you'll go. | 00:46:13 | |
| Yes, Sir, I think Linda. | 00:46:17 | |
| Linda brought up a very good point and I want to. | 00:46:19 | |
| I want to. I want to. | 00:46:22 | |
| Good kudos there. OK, because I really didn't think about that. | 00:46:24 | |
| Because it does. | 00:46:28 | |
| Have the possibility if we approve this for multi for? | 00:46:30 | |
| Multifamily that it could you could sell it in some 100% fine single story if you'll do that I think that will take care of her, | 00:46:34 | |
| her situation and. | 00:46:38 | |
| Relieve me a little bit too. Are you agreeable to single story no apartments? | 00:46:43 | |
| Yes. | 00:46:47 | |
| Yes, OK. Well, that's. | 00:46:48 | |
| You're the man of the art, then. | 00:46:51 | |
| All right. Anybody have any questions? I'm sorry. OK. I just like to add a little levity. I'll date myself. I picked strawberries | 00:46:53 | |
| that went to the Berry shed. Yes, Sir. I picked cucumbers that work went to the Berry shed. One of the hardest days in my life. I | 00:47:00 | |
| ever worked in my life, working for the Fenwicks, picking cucumbers that went to the Berry shed. | 00:47:06 | |
| And I'll date myself. | 00:47:13 | |
| Yes Sir. Well to this day we grew all our own strawberries or raspberries for all of our ice cream back in the day. | 00:47:14 | |
| And to this day I have 0 desire to ever have a strawberry because these hands should still be staged. That and Pickles. Never | 00:47:21 | |
| again for me. You got it right back. Never Pickles. I hated that. | 00:47:27 | |
| OK, enough. | 00:47:34 | |
| Farming. | 00:47:35 | |
| OK, at this point we're looking for a ballot. | 00:47:37 | |
| Alrighty Frank, loop is. | 00:47:42 | |
| I'm going to give us a ballot. | 00:47:44 | |
| Let the record show. | 00:47:47 | |
| I mean docket. | 00:47:49 | |
| Docket Spot. | 00:47:53 | |
| FC or 42624? | 00:47:56 | |
| 4 County Zoning ordinance 2000. | 00:48:01 | |
| 6 Jason Deville's petitioner. | 00:48:04 | |
| In reviewing the zoning amendment petition, the Planning Commission and the county commissioner shall pay reasonable regard to the | 00:48:08 | |
| following. | 00:48:11 | |
| Floyd County Comprehensive Plan and any. | 00:48:15 | |
| Other applicable. | 00:48:17 | |
| Adopted planning studies or reports. | 00:48:19 | |
| #2 the current conditions and the character of the current structures. | 00:48:22 | |
| And use of each district #3. | 00:48:26 | |
| The most desirable use. | 00:48:29 | |
| For each, the land in each district is adapted. | 00:48:31 | |
| And #4 the conservation of the property values throughout Floyd County. | 00:48:35 | |
| And five, responsible growth and development. | 00:48:39 | |
| I'm proposing a decision. After careful review, the Plan Commission finds that. | 00:48:43 | |
| Rezoning of the subject property is consistent with Floyd County. | 00:48:48 | |
| Comprehensive plan. | 00:48:53 | |
| Because conceptual. | 00:48:55 | |
| Proposal. | 00:48:57 | |
| Encourages development near Paoli Bright commercial corridor. | 00:48:58 | |
| Proposes increased residential use away from. | 00:49:02 | |
| Agricultural areas proposes residential uses. | 00:49:06 | |
| Near existing infrastructure. | 00:49:10 | |
| Encourages a sense of place. | 00:49:12 | |
| Aligns the community preferences for housing. | 00:49:15 | |
| Options for senior citizens. | 00:49:18 | |
| Adheres to the action item to encourage creation. | 00:49:21 | |
| Of senior housing partnerships. | 00:49:25 | |
| And places patio style housing in close proximity. | 00:49:27 | |
| To a main commercial area that's explicitly requested. | 00:49:31 | |
| By the comprehensive plan. | 00:49:36 | |
| #2. | 00:49:38 | |
| The rezoning of the subject property is consistent with the current conditions and the character. | 00:49:39 | |
| Of current structures and uses in the area because. | 00:49:45 | |
| Failing flight corridor provides various commercial amenities to the South. | 00:49:49 | |
| Will an existing assisted and independent living facility. | 00:49:54 | |
| Is located to the north. | 00:49:58 | |
| #3 The rezoning of the subject property is necessary for the most desirable land. | 00:50:00 | |
| For the use of the land because the current. | 00:50:09 | |
| Lot contains 2 underutilized buildings. | 00:50:12 | |
| Well, this proposal concentrates housing near amenities. | 00:50:15 | |
| And places residents in an area where they'll generate fewer traffic trips. | 00:50:19 | |
| Then in favor single family homes. | 00:50:24 | |
| The concentration of the residential units. | 00:50:26 | |
| Here also preserves land compared to the same number of units were created. | 00:50:29 | |
| In a lower density. | 00:50:34 | |
| #4. | 00:50:37 | |
| The rezoning of the subject property will not. | 00:50:38 | |
| Be injurious to the value of other properties in the area because. | 00:50:41 | |
| There's the commercial corridor is already a more intensive use. | 00:50:45 | |
| There are existing patio homes for independent living located. | 00:50:49 | |
| Along Magnolia Lane. | 00:50:53 | |
| Each to the preferred site. | 00:50:55 | |
| By the rezoning of the subject property will support. | 00:50:57 | |
| Responsible growth and development in the area because. | 00:51:01 | |
| Residential units are concentrated in a way that ensures units have. | 00:51:05 | |
| Adequate infrastructure. | 00:51:09 | |
| This concentration of units requires less public infrastructure for housing. | 00:51:12 | |
| Unit than the county has to maintain compared to the lower density. | 00:51:17 | |
| The developments there are commercial amenities in close proximity, cutting down on the number. | 00:51:21 | |
| Of traffic trips generated for those added residential units. | 00:51:26 | |
| Profound, careful review. | 00:51:31 | |
| I propose the Plan Commission hereby makes favor of the. | 00:51:33 | |
| Recommendation. | 00:51:37 | |
| To the county commissioners. | 00:51:38 | |
| Concerning the petitioner zoning amendment application at the meeting. | 00:51:40 | |
| Themselves today. | 00:51:45 | |
| And a favorable recommendation is made based on the following written commitments. | 00:51:46 | |
| It would be uh. | 00:51:52 | |
| The structure is brick or stone. | 00:51:56 | |
| And single story only near park. | 00:52:00 | |
| OK, we have a ballot. Need a second? | 00:52:04 | |
| I'll second that. Let the record show that Larry Biebelhauser has seconded any. | 00:52:06 | |
| Discussion. | 00:52:11 | |
| No discussion at that time. All in favor signify by aye. | 00:52:12 | |
| Aye, those opposed likewise. | 00:52:17 | |
| Let the record show as unanimous vote in favor. | 00:52:19 | |
| Thank you. All right. | 00:52:22 | |
| Let's get on to the next item. | 00:52:25 | |
| Item number 3. | 00:52:28 | |
| Docket FC-11-205-35. | 00:52:30 | |
| Primary approval of administrative subdivision replat. | 00:52:35 | |
| Applicant is seeking primary approval of an administrative subdivision as a replant. | 00:52:39 | |
| Of Lot 233 of a major subdivision known as Laxley Springs. | 00:52:43 | |
| Applicant James Sin. | 00:52:47 | |
| And representative is. | 00:52:49 | |
| Jason copper weight. | 00:52:52 | |
| At this time, Frank, if you'll give your staff report, please. All right. | 00:52:54 | |
| I've got a docket #FC112535. | 00:52:57 | |
| Petitioner Jameson. | 00:53:04 | |
| People they. | 00:53:07 | |
| Good. You probably have to go outside or we can't overhear this. Thank you very much. | 00:53:08 | |
| Go ahead. | 00:53:14 | |
| Location 1105 Beechwood Dr. Lanesville, IN 47136. | 00:53:14 | |
| Request for an administrative minor subdivision reflat of Lot 233 and legacy springs. | 00:53:19 | |
| The zoning district is agricultural residential. | 00:53:25 | |
| The petitioner is requesting to vacate and rededicate the existing 30 foot drainage easement located on Lot 233 within the Legacy | 00:53:28 | |
| Springs Subdivision. | 00:53:32 | |
| The easement would be shifted further north to align more closely with the existing Swale, ensure a proposed home on Lot 233 is | 00:53:36 | |
| not situated within the current easement area and also allow for adequate space for the residents to include a yard. | 00:53:42 | |
| The applicant states that he has consulted with both the Army Corps of Engineers and ITEM, and that because the feature was | 00:53:49 | |
| determined to be an ephemeral stream, both agencies indicated no objections to the proposed mitigation and easement relocation. | 00:53:55 | |
| The Stormwater board has already approved. | 00:54:00 | |
| The rededicated drainage easement. | 00:54:03 | |
| For staff comments. | 00:54:04 | |
| For the vacation. | 00:54:06 | |
| The conditions in the platted area have not changed so as to defeat the original purpose of the plat because lot lines will not be | 00:54:07 | |
| modified and the modification for the subdivision will allow for the replacement of an existing easement to allow for residents to | 00:54:12 | |
| be built while also adequately addressing the drainage area. | 00:54:17 | |
| It is in the public interest to vacate all or part of the plat because vacating part of the plat will. | 00:54:22 | |
| Make the lot buildable by allowing. | 00:54:27 | |
| For development of a residence that will not be located within the drainage easement. | 00:54:29 | |
| The value of that part of the land in the plat not owned by the petitioner will not be diminished by vacation because the value of | 00:54:33 | |
| the land not owned by the petitioner. | 00:54:37 | |
| Will that be diminished as the proposed drainage easement modification will continue to ensure adequate stormwater management and | 00:54:41 | |
| protection for neighboring properties? | 00:54:45 | |
| Additionally, allowing the lot to be developed with. | 00:54:49 | |
| Single family residents may enhance cohesion of the neighborhood as. | 00:54:53 | |
| Currently the lot is vacant and which in turn may potentially increase surrounding property values. | 00:54:57 | |
| Staff comments for the minor subdivision the Plat has submitted does comply with the lock standards. | 00:55:01 | |
| Or lot size standards because there are no proposed. | 00:55:06 | |
| Changes to previously approved lot sizes. | 00:55:09 | |
| The, Plato submitted, does comply with the street design standards because. | 00:55:11 | |
| No modification to streets are proposed. Streets will remain public and Legacy Springs. | 00:55:14 | |
| Platis submitted does comply with the easement standards. | 00:55:19 | |
| Because no changes to the originally approved easements have been made. | 00:55:22 | |
| The plot has submitted comply with the box standards because the plat will remain accessible via the subdivision St. | 00:55:27 | |
| Platis submitted does provide St. improvements as required by ordinance. Because no modifications to the previously approved | 00:55:33 | |
| streets are proposed, streets will remain public. | 00:55:37 | |
| I have submitted does comply with the water supply standards because previous approvals included verification of service | 00:55:40 | |
| providers. | 00:55:44 | |
| The platter submitted is suitable for sewage and wastewater containment because previous approvals. | 00:55:48 | |
| Included verification of service providers for staff recommendations prior to seeking secondary approval and final plat approval. | 00:55:53 | |
| From the county commissioners, the applicant must submit documentation or communication from both item and the US Army Corps of | 00:55:58 | |
| Engineers granting approval of the stream mitigation. | 00:56:02 | |
| Alrighty, that's a lot to take in. | 00:56:08 | |
| You got more information for us? | 00:56:11 | |
| Here is the overview or the overhead view from Beacon. | 00:56:13 | |
| And then this is the. | 00:56:18 | |
| Plan. That's a picture of the lot. It's the most recent one I can find. | 00:56:19 | |
| Oh, snow. | 00:56:23 | |
| Yeah, there you go. | 00:56:25 | |
| So Frank on the floor. | 00:56:28 | |
| That's what I'm talking. | 00:56:31 | |
| You're #3. | 00:56:33 | |
| You said no changes to your review approved easements. This is a change to an easement specifically is changing. I apologize. | 00:56:36 | |
| So should the wording be? | 00:56:43 | |
| No changes to the original approved easements have been made except for Lot 233. | 00:56:45 | |
| That's that's a good catch. I messed up. Thank you, Sir. Thank you. | 00:56:51 | |
| OK. Any other questions for Frank? | 00:56:55 | |
| Yeah. | 00:56:58 | |
| All right, I see none. | 00:57:00 | |
| OK, so we got to do the same thing, right? | 00:57:01 | |
| The applicant, yeah, if the applicant likes to come forward now. | 00:57:04 | |
| And state your name and address for the record. Yeah, he's not here. | 00:57:08 | |
| I was expecting them to be here. I'm James San, I'm the developer of Legacy Springs. | 00:57:12 | |
| Subdivision in. | 00:57:17 | |
| I'll pretty well explain what we're. | 00:57:19 | |
| Address. Give us your address 5512. | 00:57:20 | |
| Scottsville, Navalton Rd. White Knobs, Indiana. Thank you. | 00:57:23 | |
| Well, I'm pretty much said what we're needing to do. | 00:57:30 | |
| We were hoping to do that. | 00:57:33 | |
| When we asked for the. | 00:57:35 | |
| There in December, but. | 00:57:37 | |
| There was some question that we needed the letter from. | 00:57:38 | |
| A Corps of Engineers OK and. | 00:57:42 | |
| That they didn't have any. | 00:57:44 | |
| Question or problems with it? | 00:57:46 | |
| And we got that and that. | 00:57:48 | |
| Hopefully should be all we needed. | 00:57:51 | |
| OK. Any questions for Mr. Sin? | 00:57:53 | |
| Good, Bonnie. Thank you, Sir. | 00:57:57 | |
| OK, at this time we. | 00:58:00 | |
| Oh wait, we still have to open up for public, right? At this time, we open up for public comment in favor. | 00:58:02 | |
| Of this applicant. | 00:58:07 | |
| OK. If that case anybody? | 00:58:12 | |
| In opposition. | 00:58:15 | |
| Come forward. | 00:58:17 | |
| That seems like there's none there. | 00:58:19 | |
| OK, so I guess what? | 00:58:21 | |
| We don't need you to come up and respond to what anybody said. | 00:58:24 | |
| Hope I said anything. So this time we opened up for a ballot. | 00:58:27 | |
| I have a ballot. | 00:58:30 | |
| Let's record show that Larry Beeblehauser has submitted a ballot. | 00:58:31 | |
| Subdivision Name Legacy Springs. Docket FC1125-35. | 00:58:35 | |
| Applicant James Sin, after Keffer reviewed the Platte committee finds that one the plat. | 00:58:40 | |
| Estimate it does comply with the lot size standards because there are no proposed changes to previously approved light sizes. | 00:58:46 | |
| #2 the Plat has submitted does comply with the streets design standards. | 00:58:52 | |
| Because no modification to the streets are proposed #3. | 00:58:57 | |
| The plant as submitted does comply with the easement standards because no changes to the original approved easements have been | 00:59:00 | |
| made except for Lot 233. | 00:59:05 | |
| #4 the plat. | 00:59:09 | |
| As submitted, does comply with the block standards because the plat. | 00:59:11 | |
| Will remain accessible via the subdivision St. | 00:59:15 | |
| #5. | 00:59:20 | |
| The plan has submitted does provide St. improvements as required by the ordinance because no modification to the previously | 00:59:20 | |
| approved streets are proposed. | 00:59:24 | |
| Number six, the plat. | 00:59:28 | |
| As submitted, does comply with the water supply standards because previously approvals. | 00:59:30 | |
| Included verification of services. | 00:59:34 | |
| Service providers. | 00:59:37 | |
| #7 the plat as submitted. | 00:59:38 | |
| Is suitable for sewage and waste. | 00:59:40 | |
| Water containment because previous approvals included verification of service providers. | 00:59:42 | |
| But is accepted upon the completion of the following condition, do we? | 00:59:47 | |
| Is that necessary since we got the letter from the Corps? | 00:59:51 | |
| I don't think you have it in. | 00:59:54 | |
| Huh. You don't have it yet. | 00:59:56 | |
| OK. | 00:59:58 | |
| Priority seeking secondary approval. The final plan approval from the county commissioners and applicant must submit documentation | 00:59:59 | |
| or communication from both IDEM and the US Army Corps of Engineers granting approval. | 01:00:05 | |
| Of the stream mitigate. | 01:00:11 | |
| Of the stream mitigation. | 01:00:13 | |
| Decision the Floyd County Planning Commission. | 01:00:15 | |
| Platt Committee hereby grants. | 01:00:18 | |
| Primary approval of the subdivision. | 01:00:22 | |
| Of this administrative subdivision at the meeting held on the 11th of May, 2026, that completes my ballot. | 01:00:24 | |
| All right, we have a ballot. I need a second. | 01:00:31 | |
| Let the record show that Chris Welch was the person that seconded. | 01:00:34 | |
| Any discussion? | 01:00:38 | |
| All in favor signify by aye. | 01:00:41 | |
| Aye, those opposed likewise. | 01:00:43 | |
| Alrighty, thank you. It passes. Thank you, Sir. | 01:00:46 | |
| All right, at this time we have. | 01:00:48 | |
| No other business. Is that correct, Frank? | 01:00:50 | |
| All right. At this time, I'd like to thank everybody for showing up tonight on the board. Thank you very much. I know the traffic | 01:00:53 | |
| was something. | 01:00:56 | |
| At that, I need a motion to adjourn. | 01:00:59 | |
| Motion to adjourn Second. All right. Chris Welch made a motion to adjourn. It was seconded by. | 01:01:03 | |
| By Dale Bagshaw All in favor signify by aye. | 01:01:08 | |
| Aye, opposed likewise. | 01:01:11 | |
| Thank you. See you next month, guys. Don't leave till you sign. Don't leave to your sign. There's a. | 01:01:13 |