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On today, March 9th, 2026, 7:00 PM. 00:00:00
At this time, we will do the pledge allegiance, please. 00:00:03
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. 00:00:08
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 00:00:11
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:16
All righty, at this time we have roll call. 00:00:21
Here here. 00:00:26
Here here. 00:00:29
Here. 00:00:33
Mr. Bagshaw here. 00:00:34
Here, Mr. Lu. 00:00:36
Here here. 00:00:38
We have a full board. Thank you everybody. 00:00:41
It's nice that there's no football or basketball games on the night. 00:00:45
For sure. All right. 00:00:49
We'd like to have somebody. 00:00:53
Approve the minutes. 00:00:55
Of the February 9th. 00:00:56
And I was not there. So I will not, I will not be able to vote on that. And Connie, thank you for running that meeting for me in 00:00:58
my absence. 00:01:02
Like she did a great job, I just want to make it make mention of the. 00:01:05
I'm glad I got a good make a motion to approve the minutes. We have a motion. I'll second any discussion. 00:01:09
All in favor signify by aye aye. Those opposed likewise thank you. All right now I need medicine for Connie to sign. Who has a 00:01:16
copy of the minutes. 00:01:20
You got one from. 00:01:25
There you go. 00:01:26
I want to send a face. 00:01:27
All righty. We have no old business. Is that correct, Frank? 00:01:30
No old business. 00:01:33
OK. New business is agenda item. 00:01:35
One that agenda item 1 is FC-02-206-05. 00:01:38
And FC-O2-206-06. 00:01:45
And we're putting those together. Is that correct? 00:01:51
And do we need to ask the applicant for permission or? Yes, I would recommend we ask the applicant to make sure we're getting a 00:01:54
thumbs up from Jason Copper weight. OK, you're good with that, Jason. OK, if that's the case, Frank, would you please come up and. 00:02:00
Give us your staff report, Sir. 00:02:05
Good evening everyone. 00:02:08
The proposals for the Ernst Berger Conservation Subdivision. 00:02:11
Location of 6060 State Road 62. 00:02:17
Georgetown, IN 47122 requesting first a zoning map amendment. This is in the zoning district of Rural Residential RR. 00:02:20
And requesting residential suburban. 00:02:28
Applicant is requesting A zoning map amendment to rezone 16.682 acres from rural residential to residential suburban with a 00:02:30
conservation overlay in the Georgetown Township. 00:02:35
The property lies to the north of State Road 62 near the intersection with Unawine Lane and Hancock Rd. located in close proximity 00:02:40
to Gary E Cavan Park and the Edwardsville Gateway District. 00:02:44
This rezone is accompanying the proposal of a 53 lot single family detached residential conservation subdivision with the proposed 00:02:49
density of 3.17 dwellings per. 00:02:53
Acres with 116,348.76 square feet of right away. 00:02:58
And 250. 00:03:03
6000 square feet of open space. 00:03:04
The first half comments the rezoning of the subject property is consistent with the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan because as 00:03:07
this is intended as a conservation subdivision. 00:03:11
The proposal meets the vision for growth. 00:03:15
Growth areas by locating development in close proximity to both sanitary sewers and. 00:03:17
Primary arterial transportation corridors. 00:03:21
While preserving natural features. 00:03:24
This is in line with the principles of smart growth by having smaller lots which require less infrastructure per unit. 00:03:26
For the community to maintain and is in line with the conservation development designs associated with Randall Arendt, author of 00:03:31
Rural by Design, which is on page 41 of the Comprehensive Plan. 00:03:35
The rezoning of the subject property is consistent with the current conditions and the character of current structures. 00:03:40
And uses in the area because other single family residential developments occur just to the north of the site with Sandy Acres 00:03:46
Plat 789 and Woodridge Farm. 00:03:50
Plot 1285. 00:03:54
To the West with Cherry Grove at 1193 and to the east with Pear Ridge. 00:03:55
Flat 1053 just West of Gary Cabin Park is another conservation subdivision. 00:03:59
That was approved in 2024. 00:04:04
Further up Hwy. 62 within the Edwardsville Gateway District are other single family and multi family residential developments. 00:04:06
Further, as a conservation subdivision, this development would intentionally preserve contiguous portions of the existing tree 00:04:12
canopy and landscape. 00:04:15
The rezoning of the subject property is necessary for the most desirable use of the land. As this is intended as a conservation 00:04:21
subdivision, it will provide an alternative. 00:04:25
An alternative housing option to the county while preserving natural features. 00:04:29
The smart growth visions outlined in the Comprehensive Plan encourage A compact building design, creating a range of housing 00:04:33
opportunities and choices. 00:04:36
And preservation of open space and natural beauty. 00:04:39
Further development should be encouraged to concentrate in areas with sanitary sewer access and in proximity to primary arterial 00:04:42
transportation corridors. 00:04:45
The rezoning of the subject property will not be injurious to the value of other properties in the area because the conservation 00:04:50
subdivision will preserve 41.9% of the development as usable recreation and open space or retain natural features. 00:04:56
The constructed homes are intended to be built to a housing price comparable to other newly constructed homes in the area. 00:05:02
The rezoning of the subject property will support responsible growth and development in the area because, as this is accompanied 00:05:09
by a conservation subdivision, the proposed rezoning follows smart growth principles and is consistent with the county planning 00:05:13
documents and nearby land uses such as Gary E Cavan Park. 00:05:18
The Edwardsville Gateway District and residential uses. 00:05:22
Adequate infrastructure is available nearby and can be brought to the properties. 00:05:25
Staff Recommendations Favorable recommendation contingent on the approval of the Conservation subdivision proposed. 00:05:28
For the. 00:05:36
Docket for the actual Conservation subdivision. 00:05:37
The petitioner is seeking approval of conservation subdivision to be known as Maplewood Crossing. 00:05:41
The proposal will consolidate 2 parcels totaling 16.682 acres and 253 lots at 6000 square feet for each lot totaling 354,319 00:05:45
square feet for the developable area. 00:05:50
Service by the proposed Maplewood Dr. 00:05:56
A 50 foot right away consisting. 00:05:58
Or containing 116,348.76 square feet. 00:06:00
With an open space containing the remaining 256,000 square feet. Intended to preserve natural features at the site. 00:06:04
Meeting the conservation subdivision requirements, the property will also have a recreation area containing and I apologize and my 00:06:10
staff report I have updated information after the plaque committee. This was updated to 2 acres. 00:06:15
Including the storm water retention area as a current pond that would be retained. 00:06:21
The developer will provide a horseboard, fence, row and landscaping along Hwy. 62. 00:06:25
Running along the southern border of the development. 00:06:30
The property is located within the transitional residential land use of the Georgetown Township as described by the 2017 00:06:32
Comprehensive Plan on page 47. 00:06:36
The same section encourages conservation subdivisions and residential development to be located within residential growth areas. 00:06:40
Which is defined on page 41 as areas with proximity to adequate infrastructure and public services. 00:06:46
This proposal has obtained the necessary willingness to service letters from the local public services and under the traffic count 00:06:51
required to obtain a traffic study. 00:06:54
While this section does call out that higher density development should be discouraged in transitional areas, higher density is 00:06:59
defined as eight or more dwellings per acre, whereas this proposal is only 3.17 dwellings per acre. 00:07:05
Adjoining properties to the West are a stretch of rural residential properties along the inline lane. 00:07:11
To the east of the property are more rural residential properties along State Route 62. 00:07:15
With the Edwardsville Trace Apartments just past those to the north are the platted subdivisions of Sandy Acres and Woodbridge 00:07:20
Farm. 00:07:23
Both zoned rural residential and just to their W is Gary Cabin Park. 00:07:27
South of the property on the opposite side of State Road 62, our stretch of conforming and non conforming residential lots in the 00:07:32
Agricultural Residential zoning district. 00:07:36
Where are the conservation subdivision density standards? The base density calculation is the net square footage divided by the 00:07:41
base zoning district lot size for the development. 00:07:44
The current base zone for the proposal is rural residential, allowing 16 units. 00:07:48
With the rezone to residential suburban, this would allow a base density of 50.86 units. 00:07:52
The petitioner is also pursuing a 5% density bonus by meeting the requirement to provide a fence row along State Road 62. 00:07:57
Bringing the density up to 53.4 rounded down. 53 units allowed. 00:08:04
A plat review and a neighborhood meeting were held on March 4th for this development. 00:08:08
I've also provided A signet sheet. 00:08:12
The petitioner has provided A compliant preliminary plan for the project, including a preliminary plat. The petitioner has 00:08:15
provided certification that all drainage and. 00:08:19
Environmental requirements will be complied with and that there are no known outstanding issues concerning item. 00:08:23
A geotechnical report is not required for this property. Traffic study is not deemed necessary as this would be under the 75 peak 00:08:28
power trips. 00:08:31
Phase one environmental study was not required. 00:08:35
Lots meet the size and frontage standards of the FCZ Sorry County zoning ordinance for residential suburban in a conservation 00:08:38
subdivision and are laid out along subdivision streets compliant with. 00:08:43
The subdivision control ordinance standards. 00:08:49
Maplewood Dr. Is. 00:08:51
Proposed as the subdivision St. connecting to State Road 62, which still needs. 00:08:52
Actually, we have received the INDOT approval. 00:08:57
That is placed on the. 00:09:00
On the desk as well. 00:09:01
Petitioner has indicated that sidewalks will be provided and the connection is required. 00:09:07
By the subdivision control ordinance to connect to the recreation area provided. 00:09:11
Certification to ME county drainage and stormwater standards. 00:09:16
Has been provided and final approval drainage plans are required prior to secondary approval. 00:09:19
And the petitioner has provided willingness to serve letters from Edwardsville Water Authority, the Floyd County Fire Territory, 00:09:23
Harrison RMC, Duke Energy and Georgetown sewers. 00:09:28
Wastewater will be provided by Georgetown sewers. 00:09:32
As staff recommendations, final approval of drainage stormwater plans and an update to. 00:09:35
The entrance were required prior to secondary approval. That update to the entrance is reflected on the new. 00:09:40
The new platform. 00:09:45
That's in place on your own. 00:09:47
That's that's all. I have those options. 00:09:48
OK, I got a question. 00:09:53
You, you said the traffic study wasn't done because of what was, what's the, what's that right? 00:09:56
There is a certain. 00:10:01
Peak hour trips if they're under that amount. 00:10:06
Then a traffic study is not. 00:10:10
OK, I thought it was based on lots. 00:10:12
It's not based on our. 00:10:14
OK, that's good. 00:10:16
And then? 00:10:17
This is a zone change, correct? 00:10:19
Yes, first a zone change and then a conservation right, But this has to go in front of the commissioners for approval. That 00:10:21
correct, correct. 00:10:25
OK. All right. 00:10:30
Anybody else? 00:10:32
OK this time. 00:10:38
No questions. All right. Thanks, Frank. 00:10:39
OK, at this time the petitioner come up in. 00:10:41
For the instructions on the board, we give him 10 minutes. 00:10:47
Starting now. 00:10:53
What's your name? Thank you. 00:10:55
Thank you, Sir. 00:10:59
Thank you. 00:11:01
Trees, trees, trees. 00:11:06
You already lost 3. 00:11:10
3 trees. 00:11:12
I just thought that I was in the store this year. I just thought that. 00:11:19
Good evening, Jason Copper, Wave, Primavera and Associates, 1000 Bell Lane at New Albany IN here representing Discovery builders 00:11:24
and developers. 00:11:28
With discovery are Alex Minnick and Ethan Ammon. 00:11:32
Also with me is Eric Martin. Some representatives from the family who own the property are here as well. 00:11:36
Arensberger family in the back. 00:11:42
In the back there. 00:11:44
The first slide I showed you is the is an aerial of of the vicinity. 00:11:47
And the site is indicated in the yellow dash. 00:11:52
Dashes. 00:11:54
You see it's on the north side of State Road 62. 00:11:56
Just West of its intersection with Unawine Lane. 00:11:58
As you can see, Gary Caven Park is to the northwest. Edwardsville Trace Apartments or. 00:12:02
Couple properties to the West. 00:12:06
Just southwest of Poly Freeze. 00:12:08
The next side, this is the zoning map for the for the area. 00:12:12
See Edwardsville traces our plan year development. 00:12:15
Gary Cavan is a. 00:12:18
Park. 00:12:19
I think. 00:12:20
I thought there was a zone change for that of the conservation subdivision to the northwest. 00:12:21
Again, the site is indicated in the yellow dashed lines. 00:12:26
The request would be to. 00:12:31
Change the zone from RR to Rs. 00:12:32
And I will read these justifications. The proposal is consistent with the comprehensive plans vision for growth areas by locating 00:12:35
higher density subdivisions. 00:12:39
In close proximity to both sanitary sewers. 00:12:43
And primary arterial transportation corridors. 00:12:46
Following the precepts for smart growth. 00:12:49
State Road 62 is considered a. 00:12:51
If not a major correct collector, IA minor arterial. 00:12:54
And we do have sanitary sewers to the site. 00:12:59
Smaller lot sizes should be considered in these areas if connected to sanitary sewers. 00:13:02
And associated with conservation development design proposed. 00:13:06
In the styles associated with Randall Aaron. 00:13:09
And I'll get to that. 00:13:12
I'll get to that shortly. 00:13:13
The proposed use of single family residential is consistent with the current conditions of the area. 00:13:14
The area consists of single family residential to the east. 00:13:19
North-south and an existing multi family residential planning development to the West. 00:13:22
The rezoning of the property will be necessary for the most desirable land use. 00:13:27
The comprehensive plan outlines smart growth visions. 00:13:30
Objective and policies. 00:13:33
For higher density developments located along major arterial corridors. 00:13:35
Buffer areas have been provided on all. 00:13:39
By bordering property lines to the adjoining neighbors. 00:13:41
And by clustering the development. 00:13:45
It will allow for the pond area to remain. 00:13:47
In an active. 00:13:49
I should say recreational setting. 00:13:51
The rezoning will not be injurious to the value of other properties in the area. 00:13:54
The conservation subdivision design will provide clustered single family residential homes. 00:13:57
Allowing for 41.8% of the development. 00:14:02
To remain as usable. 00:14:05
Recreational open space. 00:14:07
And housing pricing comparable to other new construction homes in the area. 00:14:09
High density residential land use will be directed toward existing infrastructure. 00:14:13
And near existing residential uses. 00:14:17
The Georgetown Township provides opportunities for conservation subdivision design. 00:14:19
Utilizing smart growth to allow for compatibility and uses. 00:14:23
Along a major arterial corridor. 00:14:27
The next slide shows. 00:14:30
Sort of a colored. 00:14:32
Rendering of the site. 00:14:33
The yellow are the are the lots. 00:14:35
The lots are proposed to be in conformance with your RU standard, which is 50 by 120. 00:14:37
As allowed under the conservation regime. 00:14:43
The green spaces are. 00:14:46
Outside the right of way would be open space. 00:14:48
And the mustard colored would be the recreational. 00:14:50
Open space. 00:14:54
You can see the proposed signage. 00:14:55
In the lower right hand corner there. 00:14:58
It is all single family detached residential. There's no attached. 00:14:59
That's all. Same family detached. 00:15:03
Next slide. 00:15:05
This is the density calculation allowed under your ordinance for conservation subdivision. 00:15:08
So. 00:15:13
Contingent upon the zone change, we're proposing 53 single family lots. 00:15:14
They would have 20 foot front yard setbacks, 5 foot side yards, 10 foot rears. 00:15:19
When you take the gross square footage. 00:15:24
Divided by the by right Rs. 00:15:26
That yields 50.86 lots. 00:15:28
And then we can we're using the. 00:15:33
The protecting county view shed from a road density bonus. 00:15:36
Which allows up to 5% density bonus. 00:15:40
That's where we get to the 53.4 lots. 00:15:43
And then we're obviously using the. 00:15:46
3 So with the developers proposing is a horse board fence. 00:15:48
Along the State Road 62 right of way. 00:15:51
That would be landscaped as well. 00:15:54
Which would perfect protect that view shed from from Hwy. 62 from through traffic. 00:15:56
As well as to protect the view of the backyards. 00:16:01
Of those houses that would be facing. 00:16:04
62 plus the green space that we're leaving there. 00:16:06
The open space requirement is is 35%. 00:16:10
We're actually providing 41.8. 00:16:14
Overall green space. 00:16:16
And then 22 acres for 34.2% of the green space is required to be. 00:16:17
It could. I think it says public recreation space. 00:16:25
So the intent there would be to rehab the existing pond that's there. 00:16:27
We're going to use that pond as our detention basin. 00:16:31
But we're going to keep it as. 00:16:33
As a lake. 00:16:36
For an amenity feature. 00:16:37
And there would be walking trails. 00:16:39
Benches, those kind of things in that. 00:16:40
Public recreational areas. 00:16:42
Let's see. 00:16:44
Next slide Discovery is a well established company. They've been around since. 00:16:47
1992. 00:16:51
You can see a list of other projects that they've done and you Albany. 00:16:53
Bridal Wood. Muirfield. Trinity Run. 00:16:56
Windsor Creek. 00:16:59
In Charlestown, they've done Hawthorne, Glen Hux Landing. 00:17:01
Henryville Champions Point. 00:17:05
A heavy Commons in Jeffersonville. 00:17:09
Crown Chase. Plum Run. 00:17:11
And West Monaco run in solid burn. 00:17:14
So it is a well established firm. 00:17:16
The next slide you can see examples of their other projects. 00:17:18
The sides of buildings finish the finishes within a whole. 00:17:22
They're a very, again, a very high quality builder. 00:17:26
So, so the last slide for smart growth. 00:17:31
Your ordinance, your stormwater ordinance, is very stringent. 00:17:35
And obviously we have to. 00:17:39
Comply with that and Chief. 00:17:40
Achieve approval of the stormwater plan. 00:17:43
Prior to any development of the site. 00:17:46
So storm water and drainage control would comply with the Floyd County storm water ordinance. 00:17:48
Sanitary sewer connections would comply with the requirements of Georgetown Utilities. 00:17:52
I understand there's some concern in in Woodbridge. 00:17:56
Would bridge with this the way their sewers are? We'll need to work with the town of Georgetown town. 00:18:00
Obviously make sure we're not making that any worse than it is. 00:18:04
Maybe that will help. 00:18:07
Help alleviate any problems that those residents are having. 00:18:09
The proposal adheres to the Comprehensive. 00:18:12
Planned goals and visions for growth areas within the county. 00:18:15
The Georgetown Township provides opportunity for conservation subdivision design utilizing smart growth to allow for compatibility 00:18:19
and uses along. 00:18:22
The 62 corridor. 00:18:25
The proposed use of single family residential is consistent with current conditions. 00:18:28
Of the area. 00:18:32
And with that, we'd be happy to answer any questions. 00:18:33
Yeah, Jason, you were. 00:18:36
Uh, at the meeting we had. 00:18:39
Technical Review. 00:18:41
Yes. 00:18:43
You were thinking that, Sir, is. 00:18:43
On a different. 00:18:45
Pressure line correct? I don't know the answer to that I think. 00:18:46
Typically when Georgetown develops, especially out in these areas, they're putting in low pressure sewers. 00:18:51
Woodbridge may have originally been. 00:18:57
Approved on septic. 00:19:00
In which case they may have actually. 00:19:01
So. 00:19:03
There's a there's a Lips station at Edwardsville Trace that we designed. 00:19:04
That pumps along the back of Woodbridge and out to the system in Porter Ridge Rd. 00:19:07
Georgetown system. 00:19:13
They may have allowed people to tie in Woodbridge to tie into that force main. I don't know the answer to that. 00:19:15
If so, it might be a mix, it might be an incompatible. 00:19:21
System because I don't know. 00:19:24
Edwardsville Trace is what I would call a high pressure system. It's a lift station force main. 00:19:28
In Woodbridge. 00:19:33
If they're using the low pressure system. 00:19:34
It may not be meshing, but we'll we'll have to work with Georgetown to figure that out. 00:19:37
So we obviously. 00:19:40
My clients have no desire to flood anyone's house either from. 00:19:42
Stormwater or from sanitary sewers. 00:19:46
But but. 00:19:49
And as I explained in the neighborhood meeting. 00:19:50
The development process is sort of a chicken and the egg. 00:19:52
Thing. 00:19:55
Our clients can't spend a lot of money solving other people's problems. 00:19:56
Until they have approval. 00:19:59
Right. 00:20:01
So we need, we need to get past this meeting. 00:20:01
And then we'll have to get a sanitary sewer permit. 00:20:04
Stormwater permits all of those things. 00:20:07
Before we could turn a blade. 00:20:09
A spoonful of dirt on the side. 00:20:11
We'll have to have all those approvals in place. 00:20:13
And certainly before they could build a house. 00:20:15
And then we would come back. 00:20:18
To staff for secondary approval once we have all those things in place. 00:20:20
So, umm. 00:20:23
This is just the first step. 00:20:24
And many things that we have to accomplish before we can actually. 00:20:26
Develop the site. 00:20:28
The roads, they'll, they'll be public, right? Dedicated to the county, yes. 00:20:32
OK. And then one other question as far as the exterior of these. 00:20:37
Are we talking a lot of violin? We talking? 00:20:41
Hardy board we talked and brick. What are we talking about? So little to no vinyl. 00:20:44
Sure. No, Yeah, please. 00:20:50
Because we've approved some stuff and we go by afterwards and it's like all final. It's so embarrassing so. 00:20:53
My name is Ethan. I'm the director of operations for Discovery. They will be brick and Hardy material. 00:20:59
01801 Augusta Blvd. You better say Sir to you. 00:21:05
The only time we would use final would be a vinyl shake product and a Gable that looks just like a hearty shake product. But as 00:21:11
far as the four sides of the home, thank you. Brick or stuff. 00:21:16
Yep. 00:21:23
All right. Any other questions for? 00:21:25
The petitioner. Thank you, Jason. 00:21:27
Thank you. Yeah. All right. At this time, we'll open up. 00:21:29
The floor to anybody like to speak in? 00:21:32
In favor of this project. 00:21:35
Came forward please. 00:21:38
We have 10 minutes allotted for you. Can you talk that long? 00:21:40
State your name and your address. For the record, yes, my name is David Ernst Berger. 00:21:48
And of course, I represent the family. 00:21:53
There's eleven of us, you know, so there's quite a few. 00:21:57
You know I my actual my address is 1118 Ross, Trevor Circle, Louisville, KY. 00:22:01
OK. Thank you. 00:22:07
So I'm not going to say much. It won't take 10 minutes. 00:22:09
Umm, other than. 00:22:12
You know, we could have gone with a developer that was in. 00:22:14
A national, you know, developer. 00:22:17
We didn't want that. 00:22:20
No one in the family wanted that. 00:22:22
We wanted somebody we felt like was a quality. 00:22:25
Builder in this community. 00:22:28
That knew the community and his name. 00:22:30
On what the products and the communities they they build. 00:22:33
And we feel like we. 00:22:39
Have that. 00:22:40
With this development group. 00:22:42
Were highly in favor of the. 00:22:45
Conservation, easement or conservation? 00:22:48
Style of development. 00:22:51
40% of. 00:22:54
Green space was really important to the family. 00:22:55
And so we feel like this is going to be a good development. 00:23:00
A brother of ours lives in. 00:23:05
You know, a home. 00:23:08
By this developer. 00:23:09
It's quality home. 00:23:11
It's about the same comparable size and price. 00:23:13
What's going to be put in here? 00:23:16
So. 00:23:18
We. 00:23:19
You know, wanted to let you know that the whole family does. 00:23:20
In fact, favor. 00:23:23
This development. 00:23:24
And these developers? 00:23:26
So. 00:23:28
How long is your family on that property? 00:23:28
Oh goodness, 1959, is that right? 00:23:31
You're gonna be there when they start excavation. Be sure they don't dig up anything you buried. 00:23:33
So anyway, they they promise to keep a lot of trees and that's what we want. 00:23:42
Thank you. 00:23:47
OK. Anybody else would like to speak in favor come forward? 00:23:50
Last call. 00:23:56
All right, at this time we turn it over to anybody that wants to speak in opposition. 00:23:57
Of the project. 00:24:02
Come forward. 00:24:03
State your name. 00:24:06
And your address. 00:24:08
My name's Joe Ruttle. I live at 963 Unawan Lane. 00:24:13
I have two acres of property there. 00:24:17
And it borders. 00:24:19
What they're building right now. 00:24:21
Just a slow footnote. 00:24:23
The the meeting, the informational meeting that was Wednesday last week. 00:24:25
I got my notice Monday for that meeting. I've not got one for this. I know what's going on. 00:24:29
But I've not gotten any paperwork on it to see. 00:24:34
What they're doing, I ain't got nothing. 00:24:36
I did get a letter in mail on the day I was home. 00:24:38
And they didn't give it to me or they didn't come up to my house. But I, I just want to let you know I've not received nothing. 00:24:41
And you did state your name. I'm sorry. I was talking to the attorney. You stated your name and address. Joseph Brooke. 00:24:46
963 you know online OK sorry we just want to make sure that if you're not getting noticed that you. 00:24:51
You need to be sure you're on. I've got one of them but it was 2 days before the meeting and I didn't get nothing for this. 00:24:57
OK, OK. 00:25:02
I know I can't stop progress but I'm telling y'all. 00:25:04
Water comes across my property like there's no tomorrow, right? It washes me out and. 00:25:07
It all started. 00:25:13
Honest goodness when he put the apartments in. 00:25:14
Yeah, down the road. 00:25:16
Well, let me let me make you feel uncomfortable because I won't tell you, Mr. Cooperate stated this. 00:25:17
Floyd County has these strictest. 00:25:23
Storm water. 00:25:26
Requirements. 00:25:27
It's bigger than Louisville, KY MSD. 00:25:28
And they usually I will tell you 9 times out 10. 00:25:31
Now this is when they get done. 00:25:34
I'm not talking about existing situation. 00:25:36
But when they get done, you'll have. 00:25:38
Less water coming from that property than what was coming from the property now. So I'd like to give you some pictures I got from 00:25:40
my driveway. Welcome but it but we this is this. 00:25:44
This doesn't really. 00:25:49
We appreciate that, but I guarantee you. All right, thank you. 00:25:50
What we want to do? 00:25:54
Any number to the record, all right. 00:25:55
Totally. 00:25:58
It worse is my problem. I mean it just it's, it's gotten worse. I've been there 30 years. 00:25:59
I used to have a ditch. 00:26:04
That I could step across. 00:26:05
Now I'm, no, I'm over, but I can't run a jump across it now, right? It just gets bigger and bigger and it keeps the road in my 00:26:07
property more and more every time. 00:26:11
And it comes right through the middle of my property. 00:26:15
Well, we'll have Mr. Cochran wait when he comes back up to address your concerns, if you don't mind, We'll do that. 00:26:17
And then? 00:26:23
Like I said, the fact that I didn't get the notice in this meeting. 00:26:25
Was kind of my other neighbors have and they've told me about it, right? 00:26:28
And then we're glad you're here. 00:26:32
Yeah. And and I, I would like to and I heard some of the percentages without seeing it on the map. 00:26:35
50 The runoff first of all from. 00:26:41
Two houses is going to be a lot. 00:26:43
That's a lot of water with it. 00:26:46
Roofs and roads. 00:26:48
And it's all coming towards me. 00:26:50
And then once it leaves me. 00:26:51
It crosses, you know, 1. 00:26:53
And I can't. 00:26:55
State for a fact, but I've talked to the county. 00:26:56
The Park Highway department down there and there's a new guy in there now, but the previous guy said. 00:26:59
That the strains is there now it's not big enough. 00:27:03
To cross the road, it goes up over the road. 00:27:06
Right when? 00:27:08
On heavy rains, but it goes over the road on two or three different places. 00:27:09
So that's my biggest concern. 00:27:14
Well, we thank it and we'll have Mr. Copper weight address that on the train. It's for you. 00:27:16
Thank you, Sir. 00:27:20
Definitely not boring. 00:27:21
Next Gordon. 00:27:23
I understand it. 00:27:25
I just want to confirm that we do have a receipt that it was mailed. 00:27:26
Whether it was delivered is really up to the post office, OK. 00:27:35
All right, all right, next. 00:27:39
In opposition in my left. 00:27:44
You can do it man. 00:27:50
It don't take anything really just. 00:27:52
Just state your name and address. My name is Andrew Fulkerson. I live at 865. 00:27:55
You know, one lane. 00:28:01
The back of that neighborhood. 00:28:03
Our potential neighborhood would be the. 00:28:06
Side back of my property. 00:28:09
There is. 00:28:12
Trees that. 00:28:13
I'm pretty much bored and. 00:28:15
I have a shop back there and I keep my camper and stuff and. 00:28:17
My only concern is. 00:28:21
If we open all that up. 00:28:25
Potential for vandalism. 00:28:28
People still on my things. 00:28:30
I just don't like. 00:28:33
No one. It's that open. It's kind of probably the way I have it right now and I feel protected. 00:28:35
And I just. 00:28:41
Don't want vandalism or kids coming back there or getting hurt on my property. 00:28:43
I have little ones and I'm just worried about some kid coming back there and getting hurt. 00:28:47
So if I could hear of some type of. 00:28:52
Way they could keep. 00:28:56
Somebody from getting hurt or if they put a fence back there or something. 00:28:58
I'd be happy with it. 00:29:02
But it's. 00:29:04
I'm worried about the safety. 00:29:05
More than anything. 00:29:07
Thank you. All right. Thank you, Sir. 00:29:09
Come forward, Mr. Barley. 00:29:16
Steve Byerly, 872 Yenawine Lane, Georgetown, IN. 00:29:24
I kind of feel we're seeing. 00:29:31
I kind of feel like I don't want to. 00:29:34
Jump on. 00:29:36
The wagon here and say I'm against it. 00:29:38
Because I. 00:29:42
Probably be a hypocrite. 00:29:43
I've I've probably built more of these subdivisions or helped build more of these subdivisions and. 00:29:46
The wealth, in fact, they know I work for Dan Christianity back in the year today. 00:29:50
43 years so I've I've seen him go in. 00:29:55
I know how they go in and how they go out. 00:29:58
I am concerned about the water. 00:30:02
But. 00:30:04
I know. I know how that works. I know how it. 00:30:05
I know how. 00:30:11
How they? 00:30:12
The drainage. 00:30:12
It's supposed to work. 00:30:13
Now, and, and I, in fact, I'm probably going to be the inspector on this job. 00:30:15
Because. 00:30:20
I'm below. 00:30:22
Joe So I get. 00:30:23
I'll get I get a lot of water. 00:30:25
But the county you know, you know it has nothing to do with probably, probably with the Herst burgers on that property other than. 00:30:27
I hope that we don't get. 00:30:35
Have that problem but county has not. 00:30:36
Address the problem of the of the drainage. 00:30:41
But that's that's not your problem. 00:30:43
I mean, that's that's not so. 00:30:46
I I just want and and the traffic. 00:30:49
Yes, horse traffic's bad. 00:30:51
Everywhere. 00:30:53
So I can't. 00:30:54
I can't show you this. I can't say that it's going to get it would be worse back. 00:30:56
And that is a high traffic area and it's had a lot of accidents there. 00:31:01
Frank, I think, you know, there's a lot of accidents out that way, so. 00:31:06
I'm just gonna leave it at that because. 00:31:10
They're I cleaned their pond out. 00:31:13
I clear youth falls in pond out years ago so I know what's in there and there will be a lot of turtles in there. 00:31:17
All right, thank. Thank you, Steve. 00:31:23
Alrighty. 00:31:27
I do have one question. 00:31:30
You can come up, just state your name and address for the record again. So we got you. 00:31:32
Jose Joseph Rattle, you know my mind. 00:31:38
So if it does, if it does get approved. 00:31:40
Are there going to be like they work on it? 00:31:43
They're gonna have hours where they work. 00:31:45
You know, like. 00:31:47
8:00 to 4:30 not. 00:31:48
Rundown so I hear Bulldogs at 10:00 night. 00:31:50
I've done part of the other side that isn't about my girlfriends right next to the park. 00:31:53
I've heard him over there. 00:31:57
And on weekends, are they going to be running? 00:31:59
Putting the streets in stuff they're going to be. 00:32:02
Probably just Tuesdays and Thursdays between 10:00 and 2:00. 00:32:04
Sets the tea schedule. 00:32:10
I just I mean, you're gonna. 00:32:12
I just can't come out there on Saturday and Sunday and. 00:32:14
I'd say that whatever if county does have some kind of ordinance, they'll have to abide by the ordinance is what I would say. I, I 00:32:17
don't, and I don't know what that is, I'll be honest with you. 00:32:21
Yeah, but it's noted. 00:32:25
Thank you, Sir. 00:32:27
There is a noise ordinance, but it does not include construction. There you go. 00:32:28
Amen. 00:32:33
My name is John Berry. It's Barrie. 00:32:39
I own a property at 887 Yenawine. 00:32:43
I'm not pro or. 00:32:46
Against. 00:32:48
Because I don't like information. 00:32:49
I never got the 1st. 00:32:51
Cutter for the first informational meeting. 00:32:52
I got this one. 00:32:56
And when the first general was speaking. 00:32:57
He kept saying next slide, next slide. These monitors never changed. 00:33:00
So I have no idea what he was looking at. 00:33:04
Or we was, you know, talking to. 00:33:06
Just for the record. 00:33:08
The the rainwater. 00:33:11
Stormwater drains for everywhere to call it. 00:33:12
Is an issue. It's a major issue. 00:33:15
And a lot of driveways along that, the yellow line. 00:33:17
Path there. 00:33:21
Are cracked up and broken because of this. 00:33:22
Transition. 00:33:26
So I'm just looking For more information to look at. Like I said, not pro, not against. 00:33:29
The trees Outback are nice. 00:33:35
It's it's a great scenery and. 00:33:38
I just need more information, more communication. 00:33:41
Understand what the plan is. 00:33:44
Going forward. 00:33:47
So I'll leave it at that. 00:33:48
So I'll give you something. This is yours. 00:33:51
If the water issue Steve. 00:33:55
Steve, is the water issue. 00:33:59
The whole length of Vienna wine. 00:34:03
Or is it halfway so I can have somebody go out there and look? 00:34:06
Yeah, well, not full blank because. 00:34:13
Once it gets down to card. 00:34:15
Right. So between Cordon Ridge. 00:34:17
Between Cordon Ridge and 62 is where I should have them look at it. 00:34:20
I'll, I'll have the engineer go out there with stormwater Guy and look at it. 00:34:24
Let's see if we can dig a big hole or something. 00:34:30
I know you're good. 00:34:35
Alright, we still got a few minutes left. Or is it difficult time out we time down. 00:34:39
OK, All right. Was there anybody else that wants to speak in opposition? 00:34:43
If you make it fast, I'll let you come. If not, we'll close it. 00:34:47
That's it. We can't let Mr. Copperweight, you want to come up and give us a 5 minutes rebuttal and. 00:34:50
I guess what I want to hear is. 00:34:55
Definitely your response on the drainage for sure. Want to hear that and then I'd like to hear. 00:34:57
What kind of buffer they're thinking about maybe coming up with for the I think that was, was that Mister Fulbers who said that? 00:35:02
Yeah, Mr. Focus. So, So on the drainage, as I mentioned earlier, Boyd County has the most stringent drainage ordinance around. 00:35:09
But what we have to do is show that we are not increasing. 00:35:17
From this project. 00:35:20
We are not increasing. 00:35:22
Post development. 00:35:24
Runoff. 00:35:25
Greater than pre development. 00:35:26
For the two, the 10 and the 100 year storm. 00:35:28
And we actually are very, again very stringent requirements. 00:35:30
The review is very stringent. 00:35:34
It's again, it's just very tough. 00:35:38
And I gave them the analogy at the at the neighborhood meeting. 00:35:40
That a detention basin, which is what will turn the pond into. 00:35:43
Is basically like taking a glass. 00:35:47
Drilling a hole in the bottom. 00:35:49
No matter how fast you pour water in the top of the glass, it can only come out. 00:35:51
As fast as that straw will allow it to do. 00:35:55
We size that glass for 100 year storm. 00:35:58
And it can only come out. 00:36:01
At pre development 100 year storm. Great. 00:36:02
Now once, once, once you get to 100 year storm, which is the cap in the ordinance, all bets are off. Everybody has problems at 00:36:05
that point. 00:36:08
But anywhere between? 00:36:11
Zero and 100 years stolen. We're going to capture the runoff from this side. 00:36:13
Run it through our detention basin. 00:36:16
And release it. 00:36:18
I did not promise them that we would make it better. 00:36:19
Oftentimes you see that detention basins make downstream issues better. 00:36:22
I can't say we're going to make it better. 00:36:26
But I can definitely say we're not going to make it worse. 00:36:28
As far as the traffic. 00:36:31
This is an in dot control facility, State Road 62. 00:36:33
I don't know if you got the e-mail from them, but it would get an e-mail from them. 00:36:37
They have again, a stringent review. They're talking about left turn lanes. They may have right turn lanes. 00:36:42
We at least will have to make ingress and egress to the neighborhood. 00:36:48
6. 00:36:51
Through traffic. That's just through traffic. 00:36:53
Your Your ordinance requires a traffic study for anything. 00:36:56
That accesses the collector and arterial. 00:36:59
75 vehicle trips per day. 00:37:02
A subdivision is roughly 1 vehicle peak hour. 00:37:05
Or one vehicle per lot. 00:37:08
One peak hour trip per lot. 00:37:10
So 53 lots doesn't rise to 75. 00:37:12
So that's why we didn't have to do a traffic study. 00:37:16
But. 00:37:18
But 50 three additional. 00:37:18
Trips in an hour on 62 is is that drop in the bucket? 00:37:21
Compared to what's already on 62. 00:37:25
So I don't think you'll see appreciable. 00:37:27
Different appreciable difference there. 00:37:29
As far as the buffer. 00:37:31
And I failed to mention this. 00:37:33
Earlier. 00:37:35
One of my favorite things about conservation subdivisions. 00:37:35
That I like to do. 00:37:39
Is pull the lots in from the outer boundary. 00:37:40
So that all of these lots, none of the lots proposed here, touch an adjacent property. 00:37:43
There is. 00:37:48
20 at least a 20 foot wide and I believe we have 25 feet of space. 00:37:49
From the back of any lot to the. 00:37:54
Our intention is to leave as many of those trees. 00:37:57
In that area. 00:38:00
As we can. 00:38:01
The only thing might be is if. 00:38:02
Along the edge of a lot. 00:38:04
We might put a detention or a Swale in to convey water to the detention basin. 00:38:05
So if there's a tree that's sort of straddles the lot line. 00:38:10
That might have to come out but in that buffer. 00:38:13
There's really no reason for us to take those trees out. 00:38:15
Does that answer your questions? Very much so. 00:38:19
OK. 00:38:22
Again, if you have any questions for me, I'd be happy to answer. Any questions for Mr. I'll just have one I hadn't heard. 00:38:23
We always hear this talk of affordability. What's the price point of these homes? 00:38:29
And it's not your question to answer what we what we talked about at the neighborhood meeting. 00:38:33
Mr. Hammond mentioned 400. 00:38:37
Plus, I said 375 just to give him a little bit of grace, 375. 00:38:39
To 500. 00:38:44
I can't say that this neighborhood is affordable. 00:38:46
But what? But what additional housing stock at that price point does? 00:38:48
Is it frees up housing? Cheaper housing stock? 00:38:52
Right. So if somebody's in a $200,000 house. 00:38:55
And they decide to move up to a $400,000 house. 00:38:57
Now their house is available for someone else that's more affordable. 00:39:00
And it cascades down the line. 00:39:03
OK. 00:39:05
Any other questions? 00:39:07
Is this gonna be catch? 00:39:09
In stormwater. 00:39:10
The drains or is it all released? Yeah, the the streets themselves will have catch basins. 00:39:12
Yes. And then that will all be conveyed to the detention basically. 00:39:17
Drainage is just a big thing. 00:39:24
Sure. 00:39:26
Always is. 00:39:27
You know, traffic's right. 00:39:28
I've talked to Georgetown, they said the sewers won't be any problem. 00:39:30
They check with their engineer and. 00:39:35
So that's not a big problem. 00:39:37
I guess one more question I have is the all the common areas, 41% of the lot you saw the property says. 00:39:40
Common area? Yes. Is the HOA gonna take care of that common area? Yes. 00:39:45
Because sometimes they won't give it to the county. We really don't. We're not taking it. 00:39:50
And we really don't want it. 00:39:54
So the HOA, we take care of all the common area, OK. 00:39:56
All righty. 00:40:01
Thank you. Thank you. 00:40:03
All righty, All righty. 00:40:05
Can I take one second, Mr. 00:40:07
Yeah, Mr. Fulkerson, just as a. 00:40:10
Thought if you have concerns about people crossing through that barrier, you Indiana does have a purple paint law. 00:40:12
So if you know you're lying, you can't put purple paint on the trees. 00:40:17
Just to help mark that. 00:40:20
If that is a concern of yours. 00:40:22
Yeah. 00:40:26
Not blue. 00:40:28
It's gonna be purple. 00:40:29
Hey, Jason, could you mind coming back up just a second? 00:40:32
Do you think your applicant would agree as a condition? 00:40:39
That the final no vinyl except what he as he stated. 00:40:42
It's a written commitment. Written commitment, sure. 00:40:46
What's the? 00:40:49
Makes typical Max on file. 00:40:50
30 square feet. 50 square feet. 00:40:52
OK, OK, OK, that's good. They can do a commitment more than 100 square feet of. 00:40:57
As a condition. 00:41:09
Written commitments, it's generally like he said, it's going to be shake on the. 00:41:11
On the Gables. 00:41:15
Yeah, yeah. I mean, otherwise you're gonna have to. Yeah. We want to ride by when we improve these. You want to ride by when they 00:41:16
built and be proud of them too. We just. 00:41:20
The vinyl just. 00:41:24
Yeah, it's moving. 00:41:28
Remember that. 00:41:30
Remember the houses we looked at in Nob Hill though that had. 00:41:32
Even the Hardy was, yeah, great. Yeah. So there are vinyl products that are there, no doubt. And they proved that, too. 00:41:35
Yeah, I think we approved that, didn't we, Nick? It's on, it's on our list approval, right? 00:41:42
Right. 00:41:46
Condition. 00:41:47
Yeah, it's a high end. Bottle's got the, uh, star foaming behind it. 00:41:51
It's like battle with it. 00:41:56
The cost, they say, is very expensive, but. 00:41:57
We they showed us Hardy and showed us that and. 00:42:00
Right. Well, they already lost money in the house because he said 375. They said over 400. 00:42:03
Thanks. Thank you. 00:42:15
OK, this time close. 00:42:17
And we we're looking for a ballot. 00:42:20
Just see if I have one please. 00:42:23
Please if I have that one. 00:42:26
No. 00:42:27
After checking. 00:42:30
Docket FC02-206-05. 00:42:36
Petitioners named Ernst Berger Planning Trust. 00:42:40
Decision After careful review, the Floyd County Planning Commission finds that number one. 00:42:43
The rezoning of subject property is consistent with the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan. 00:42:49
Because the proposed subdivision meets the division of foite. 00:42:53
Is the vision for growth areas by locating development in close proximity to both sanitary sewers and primary. 00:42:57
Arterial transportation corridors. 00:43:04
While preserving natural features. 00:43:06
This is a land of the principles of smart growth. 00:43:08
By having smaller lots which requires less infrastructure per unit for the community to maintain and is in the land with 00:43:12
conservation development design associated with. 00:43:16
Randall Arnett. 00:43:21
Arthur, a rule by design. 00:43:22
#2 the rezoning of subject property. 00:43:24
Is consistent with the current condition and the character of current structures and uses of in the area because. 00:43:27
Other single family residential developments occurred. 00:43:33
Just to the north. 00:43:36
Of the site. 00:43:38
With Sadie Akers and Woodbridge Farms. 00:43:39
To the West is Cherry Grove and to the east is Prairie. 00:43:42
Just West of. 00:43:46
Of Gary Craven Park is another conservation shop so division that was approved in 2024. 00:43:47
As a conservation subdivision, this development would intentionally. 00:43:53
Preserve contiguous portions of the. 00:43:57
Existing tree canopy. 00:44:00
And landscape. 00:44:02
#3 The rezoning of subject property is necessary for the most desirable use. 00:44:04
Of the land because this development is intended as a conservation subdivision. 00:44:08
It will provide an. 00:44:12
Alternative housing option to the county while preserving natural features. 00:44:14
The smart growth vision outlined in the Comprehensive plan encourages A compact building design. 00:44:18
Creating a range of housing opportunities and choices. 00:44:24
And preservation of open space and natural beauty. 00:44:27
Development is encouraged. 00:44:30
To concentrate in the areas with sanitary sewer access and is. 00:44:31
In proximity to primary artillery transportation corridors. 00:44:35
#4 the rezoning subject property. 00:44:39
Will not be interest to the. 00:44:41
Of other properties in the in the area because the conservation subdivision will preserve approximately 42% of the development. 00:44:43
As usual, recreation open space. 00:44:50
Or retain natural features. 00:44:53
Constructed homes are intended to be built to a housing price comparable to other newly constructed homes in the area. 00:44:55
#5. 00:45:02
Rezoning of subject proper. 00:45:05
Property. 00:45:07
Will support reasonable growth and development in the area because the proposed rezoning follows smart growth principles. 00:45:08
And is consistent with the county paying documents. 00:45:14
And nearby land use such as. 00:45:16
Gary Craven Park, the Edwardsville Gateway District and residential uses. 00:45:18
At adequate infrastructure is available nearby. 00:45:23
And can be brought to the properties. 00:45:27
Upon careful review, the Floyd County Planning Commission hereby makes. 00:45:30
A favorable recommendation. 00:45:34
On the petitioner of rezoning Amendment application at the meeting held on the 9th of March, 2026. 00:45:36
A favorable recommendation is made based on the following. 00:45:42
Commitment. 00:45:45
Disapproval is contingent upon the approval of the proposed conservation subdivision that completes my ballot. 00:45:46
Already we have a ballot. I need a second. 00:45:54
I'll second. 00:45:57
Thank you for writing that. 00:45:57
Yes, Sir. Any discussion? 00:45:59
None all right. Sorry. Just for clarification though. 00:46:02
You guys had asked the applicant if they were willing to. 00:46:05
Add a written commitment in there regarding siding as well. 00:46:09
You OK? 00:46:13
You want on the. 00:46:14
Subdivision. 00:46:16
On the zoning change. 00:46:17
On the zoning. 00:46:19
So it needs to be on this one, OK? 00:46:23
All right, so we do have a additional. 00:46:24
Written, sorry. 00:46:28
Yeah. 00:46:33
Are you going to want to see that as a recorded zoning commitment? Yeah, recorded. 00:46:35
Yes, yeah. 00:46:41
OK, that can help you with that if. 00:46:42
They haven't my applicant or my client hasn't closed on the property. 00:46:46
Does that need to be in the that'll be in the need need to be in the name of the current owner then. Is that right? 00:46:50
Yes. Or when are they planning on closing? 00:46:54
When all the other approvals are in place, probably. Cart, horse, horse, right? A few months probably. 00:46:59
Yeah, yeah. You want a recorded zoning commitment prior to the commissioner meeting? 00:47:07
OK. 00:47:12
I just want to be clear on that, Yeah. And I can help you with that if you need help with it if you don't have Giraffe, but OK. 00:47:12
Just reach out to me. 00:47:18
Appreciate it. 00:47:19
So we had an addition. 00:47:20
So I have amended. 00:47:22
The condition #2 Building material no more than 100 square feet of final per house. 00:47:24
I need I'll still 2nd that I need a second on the amendment. 00:47:31
And all in favor any additional discussion? 00:47:35
All in favor signify by aye aye, those opposed likewise. 00:47:39
Thank you. 00:47:42
All right, we need a ballot. 00:47:43
I'm going the other way first. 00:47:51
Thank you. 00:47:54
Do you have a chance to have a copy that I could get? 00:47:57
Copy of. 00:48:02
Everything I got. 00:48:08
From the working but yeah. 00:48:09
What's this document? 00:48:10
This is this one's alone. 00:48:19
I thought Chris said 5 pages long people. 00:48:21
Did you have a balance? 00:48:24
Oh, I thought you did. 00:48:25
FC O2-206-06 Applicant Ernst Berger, Planning Trust. 00:48:31
Number one, petitioner has met all the following requirements. 00:48:38
A preliminary plan provided be. 00:48:41
Certification demonstrating compliance with IBEM Rule 5C. Plat provided to defend identifying all pertinent informations. 00:48:44
Pursuant to the. 00:48:52
SCO and the Floyd County Planning and Zoning. 00:48:54
Commission rules. 00:48:58
What procedure? 00:49:00
Items DE and F are not applicable. 00:49:01
G site plan provided that shows tough. 00:49:04
Topographic. 00:49:06
Wetlands with flood hazard areas, steep slopes. 00:49:07
Install shown on having. 00:49:11
As having several limitations of program. 00:49:14
H Lots All lots comply with the Floyd County zoning. 00:49:19
Requirements. 00:49:22
Sorry about that. 00:49:24
#2. 00:49:26
All lights are not laid out along existing. 00:49:27
Arterioles collectors are local streets. 00:49:31
#3 all lots meet the link requirements of the SEO. 00:49:34
Item I. 00:49:39
Streets. Streets comply with dimensional geographic standards of the SEO #2 traffic. 00:49:44
Common measures are identified where more than. 00:49:50
35 are proposed #3 Any public streets serving the subdivision meets the SCL surface type. 00:49:53
And right away requirements #4 All streets are named. 00:49:59
Five. There are not. 00:50:03
Any permanent dead end streets or private streets? 00:50:05
6 Indiana Department of Transportation approval. 00:50:09
Has been received from Maple Dr. intersection with Hwy. 62. 00:50:12
#7 curbs and gutters conform to the Indiana dot standard specifications or equivalent standards as determined by the County 00:50:16
engineer. 00:50:20
Jay driveways, intersection entrances. 00:50:24
Number one. 00:50:27
The proposal does not provide. 00:50:28
Two subdivision entrances required. 00:50:30
For a 50 or more life subdivision, however, the developer will. 00:50:33
Meet this requirement by providing a single entrance with two lanes, each 16 foot wide. 00:50:37
Separated by landscape meeting at least 12 foot wide, extending for a distance of 100 feet. 00:50:42
#2 Driveway separation meets the requirements of the SCO. 00:50:48
#3 All driveways intersection are located in accordance with the SEO. 00:50:52
OK, sidewalk. Sidewalks will be prevented. 00:50:56
On both sides of the subdivision streets. 00:50:59
#2 is pedestrians. 00:51:02
Access will be provided to any park common space recreation. 00:51:04
Facility. 00:51:08
Located in the subdivision. 00:51:09
#3. 00:51:12
Protective covenants will assign the obligations for the maintenance and repair of sidewalks and trails to the Lot Lot Owners 00:51:13
Association. 00:51:17
How convenient covenants will be consistent with the SCO? 00:51:22
#2 Petitioner has provided certification to meet the following requirements for drainage and storm water. 00:51:25
Hey at the NR approval will be obtained for. 00:51:31
Alterations to the natural drainage pattern and natural stream patterns caused by construction of the subdivision. 00:51:35
B. Any drainage system will be in. 00:51:41
Meets the minimum standards of the SCO. See drainage reports will be provided. 00:51:44
D Final drainage plans are required prior to secondary approval. 00:51:50
#3 Petitioner has provided a letter confirming availability and willingness to serve. 00:51:54
For all necessary utilities, water, sewage, fire. 00:51:59
And electric #4 petitioner has met the following requirements for sewer and septic service. 00:52:03
A service for the subdivision lights. 00:52:09
Will be extended to an IDEM approved municipal or county owned. 00:52:11
For Cooperative sanitary sewer. 00:52:16
B is not applicable. 00:52:18
Decision upon careful review, the Floyd County Planning Commission hereback grants. 00:52:22
Introduce your primary approval. 00:52:26
For major subdivisions. Meeting held on the 9th of March 2026. 00:52:28
Primary approval is based on a completion of the filing condition. 00:52:33
Final approval of drainage and stormwater. 00:52:36
Approval by Indiana dot for subdivision Rd. connection. 00:52:39
And an update to the entrance for Section 3 point. 00:52:42
You know of the subject control ordinances required prior to the secondary approval? 00:52:46
That completes my ballot. 00:52:52
I'll second that ballot. All right, we have a second any. 00:52:55
Had discussion. 00:52:59
All in favor signify by aye. 00:53:01
Those opposed likewise. 00:53:03
You are past. Thank you very much. 00:53:06
Okay. 00:53:12
We'll wait while we're getting this sign and if you guys want to leave and we'll get our next docket up here. 00:53:14
Umm, Frank, you wanna go forward? 00:53:19
And big on this one. We did the original survey work on this a couple years ago, so I'm going to recuse myself from this, all 00:53:23
right? 00:53:26
All right, agenda item number 2. 00:53:31
I gave it to Christy. 00:53:39
Wait just a second. 00:53:43
Hey guys, let a Jason. 00:53:46
Can you all go out in the hall so we can continue on? Thanks, I appreciate it. 00:53:48
Oh, no problem. 00:53:53
Thank you guys. 00:53:54
All right, go ahead, Frank. This is a agenda item FC-2. 00:53:58
02-206-07. 00:54:02
Zoning map amendment, go ahead. Thank you. 00:54:05
So petitioners taking grants on behalf of Troy Streaking. This is located at 5386 Napleton Road and 5390 Navalton Rd. 00:54:07
The request is a zoning map amendment. The zoning district currently is rural residential requesting neighborhood commercial. 00:54:15
Applicant is requesting A zoning map amendment to rezone 2 properties from rural residential to neighborhood commercial located on 00:54:21
.65 acres. Properties are located at the corner of Napleton Road and Brown Street, just off of the US 150. 00:54:28
These properties are adjacent to a previously approved zoning map amendment that changed the zoning from RR to NC with docket. 00:54:34
Hold on just a second. 00:54:41
We we gotta. 00:54:42
We got to get to order here. We can't. 00:54:43
I made DD man I can't take all one time. 00:54:46
Yeah, hold on just a second. 00:54:49
All right, go ahead, continue. 00:54:51
Applicant is requesting A zoning map amendment to rezone 2 properties from Rural Residential RR to Neighborhood Commercial NC 00:54:54
located on 0.65 acres. 00:54:58
Properties are located at the corner of Napleton Road and Brown Street, just off of US150. 00:55:02
These properties are adjacent to a previously approved zoning map amendment that changed the zoning from RR to NC with Docket 00:55:07
FC-0519-17. 00:55:12
And was approved with the following written commitments. 00:55:17
Any future development will be required to be connected to a sanitary sewer system. 00:55:19
The future commercial use of this property must be compatible and complement the adjoining residential properties. 00:55:23
Buffer yard standards will be required and all all signage will meet county standards. 00:55:28
The zone amendment is to accommodate a proposed conceptual plan for a new 5000 square foot healthcare practitioner's office 00:55:33
building. 00:55:36
The conceptual proposal would still need an approved development plan. The site does not currently have approved sewer connection. 00:55:39
For staff comments, the rezoning of the subject property is consistent with the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan because. 00:55:46
The rezoning of the subject property fits the character of adjoining parcels to the South, east and West. Future commercial land 00:55:52
use will be directed towards the Galena area and the town of. 00:55:56
Town of Greenville. 00:56:01
Greenville Township page 50 of the Comprehensive Plan. 00:56:02
The site does not have approved sewer connection at this time, but development would require such a connection or variance before 00:56:05
it could be approved. 00:56:09
The rezoning of the subject property is consistent with the current conditions and the character of current structures and uses in 00:56:12
the area because the rezoning of the subject property fits the character of adjoining parcels to the of the church to the West, 00:56:16
the rezoned properties to the South. 00:56:20
And the Jacobi gas station on US150. However, there are homes across Brown Street. 00:56:25
Buffer yard standards will be required for commercial use if the amendment is approved. 00:56:29
The rezoning of the subject property is necessary for the most desirable use of the land because. 00:56:33
Subject property is located at a signal. 00:56:38
Signalized intersection of a minor arterial US150 and major collector roadway. Napleton Rd. Property is located in a commercial 00:56:40
node. 00:56:44
Just Galita. 00:56:49
The rezoning of the subject property will not be injurious to the value of the property. 00:56:50
Of the of the other properties in the area because subject property is located near other commercially zoned properties. 00:56:54
And for Section 5.09 of the Floyd County zoning ordinance will require a Type 2 buffer yard. 00:57:00
With an additional 15 foot set back with required landscape. 00:57:06
Plantings and a berm or fence. 00:57:09
The rezoning of the subject property will support responsible growth and development in the area because subject property is 00:57:11
located in an area designated for commercial growth and is located at a major signalized intersection. 00:57:16
2017 Vision, Floyd County Comprehensive Plan states. 00:57:22
The community also has several smaller commercial areas. These areas provide local commercial needs for residents. These areas 00:57:25
include the Ableton Rd. US150. 00:57:29
Charlestown Rd. County Line Rd. 00:57:33
Paoli Pike, Scottsdale Rd. And Cordon Pike. 00:57:35
Small commercial activities presently occur in these vicinities and should continue. 00:57:37
That's from the growth assessment. 00:57:41
Or growth areas for commercial Page 43 of the Comprehensive Plan. 00:57:43
Or staff comments. The conceptual plan will need several modifications before submission as a development plan. 00:57:47
And for staff recommendations written commitment to not develop without sewer connection. 00:57:53
So I have to stop. 00:57:58
On his. 00:58:01
On his sketch. 00:58:02
That the applicant is approved. I know this isn't. 00:58:04
It's just a conceptual thing. 00:58:07
Put the buffers on. 00:58:09
Across the rear of the property. 00:58:12
He doesn't bring that buffers on all the way. Doesn't he have to cover the whole? 00:58:14
Or is it because there's a parking lot? I'm a little confused where. 00:58:18
I. 00:58:23
And I apologize because it's been a moment since I last looked at this, but the my understanding was that that buffer would have 00:58:24
to go across the entirety. 00:58:27
Across the entire back line. 00:58:31
OK, so I'll be over right now. 00:58:33
I have a question. 00:58:36
This is not looking at fixing the light at 150 Napleton so there is an actual turn lane. 00:58:37
Because it's coming from. 00:58:43
The Firehouse if you if it was a medical building. 00:58:45
Traffic's gonna get backed up 'cause you're not gonna be able to turn left during peak hours. 00:58:48
Not going to return left at all. Hardly. 00:58:53
Yeah, yeah, you can't. Hardly now anyway. 00:58:55
But now for putting a facility there where people have to get there at a certain time. 00:58:58
Huh. 00:59:05
I don't have an answer for. 00:59:06
That would be up to him that they would, they would conduct a study and determine whether it's warranted or not and they would 00:59:19
install that. 00:59:23
I just didn't know. I know and I was doing stuff, so I didn't know where we fell in. 00:59:28
I mean, if they have looked at, I know they have looked at that light they looked at. 00:59:32
Yes, it is. That would be determined. That's fine. Yeah. 00:59:41
In this entrance, here is how much commercial traffic. 00:59:46
Who is the Illinois? 00:59:50
On the staff report. 00:59:52
On the neighboring property that was previously approved. 00:59:54
Have they got served? 00:59:59
No, not at this time and development. 01:00:01
Right, no development. 01:00:05
But. 01:00:09
Pardon me, where was that? 01:00:11
That you're it's in his in his staff report overview the the adjacent property that received that researching the condition 01:00:12
because it's a part of this conceptual. 01:00:18
Plan uh, it is directly adjacent to several of the lots that they're requesting to be rezoned and included in the conceptual. 01:00:24
Plan OK, so part of it was already rezoned and part hasn't so part of. 01:00:32
OK has already been zoned neighborhood commercial. They're asking for a couple additional lots that are directed to adjacent and 01:00:38
then they will have a single property. 01:00:43
Where where the parking lot is has already been approved. 01:00:48
Yeah, the back part. 01:00:50
Where the detention basin and the building is, that's not in the approved. 01:00:52
There are two additional lots, so there's two houses that have to be torn down and all that. 01:00:57
And. 01:01:02
Thanks. Switch it. 01:01:04
Right. 01:01:06
They had to run under 150 for sewer, correct? 01:01:07
Would you say Frank? 01:01:13
They had to run under 150 for sewers, so the state's going to be involved quite a bit. 01:01:15
If you go forward with that. 01:01:21
I would really caution you on the shrubbery that you put on that corner. 01:01:23
Because you can't see now. 01:01:28
And there's nothing there. 01:01:31
There's everybody signs that does roofing. 01:01:32
Yeah, I'm waiting. 01:01:39
Just one more note, this is for the rezoning. We would have a full development interview look at. 01:01:43
Are the entrances right? Turn lanes require all those things? 01:01:49
Gotcha. 01:01:56
Thank you. We got it. 01:01:57
Thank you, Frank. 01:01:59
All right, applicant, come forward, Mr. Grimes. 01:02:01
State your name and address for the record. 01:02:06
Yeah, Nathan Grams with Renaissance Design Build, 117 S Indiana Ave. Sullenburg, Indiana. 01:02:08
You're representing Troy Segrell, who owns the NCLLC. 01:02:14
And just kind of. 01:02:19
Give you guys a little overview. I think you've discussed a lot of it already. 01:02:23
The there's a total of 123. 01:02:28
There's a total of 6 lots we're talking about here. 01:02:35
I think 4 of them have already been rezoned in. 01:02:38
And they're currently undeveloped. 01:02:41
And there's a two that have housed on them or what we're. 01:02:43
It owner owns them as well so we try to get the whole. 01:02:46
Corridors or old group? 01:02:50
Zoned the NC is what we're doing here. 01:02:53
And I'm not sure he actually has a. 01:02:55
Ten and four this year, did you? 01:02:59
So it's not. 01:03:01
So the entrances that are showing on here, all that in the parking lot, we're not, we're not. That's that's just. 01:03:04
Yeah, I got you. So that you can get the right parking on it and a detention basin and. 01:03:13
Landscaping in. 01:03:18
Russian, we intend to meet your ordinances, whatever. 01:03:20
Will abide by the sewer. 01:03:23
So we don't want to get into all the answers and. 01:03:25
One of the houses is these be torn out already. 01:03:29
They're going to tear that down. The other house may come down later at this point time so. 01:03:31
But anyway, we're trying to get the whole. 01:03:36
Thing zoned NC. 01:03:38
And like the staff report said. 01:03:41
This meets all the criteria for the three criteria as you're. 01:03:43
Need, and there's NC. 01:03:47
To the left, to the right, across the street on 150. 01:03:50
Everything's already in C, except across Brown Street. 01:03:54
Thing and maybe the adjoiner. 01:03:57
Down Brown Street, so. 01:04:02
Does the applicant already own this property or is it under option? 01:04:04
Yes. 01:04:10
Any other questions? 01:04:12
For Mr. Grams. 01:04:14
No, I haven't had questions. 01:04:16
Yeah, simple is good. 01:04:20
After. 01:04:24
PCA. 01:04:26
OK. Thank you, Nathan, at this time. 01:04:29
We opened up the floor name I want to speak in. 01:04:34
Favor of this? 01:04:37
Come forward. 01:04:40
Do you have any more questions if you need to? 01:04:41
What you gotta? 01:04:44
I can't talk to you like that. I've got it. You got to state your name, right? All that's good stuff. Yeah. State your name and 01:04:45
address. 01:04:48
Troy Striegel, 4100, for sales Court. 01:04:52
Only knows. Go ahead. You guys got any questions for the property? 01:04:55
The there's one, there is one requirement. 01:04:59
And I would probably add to this. 01:05:02
Hopefully you don't have a problem, but. 01:05:04
On Napleton Road I'd be asking for 30 foot or right away from Centerland. 01:05:07
For county. 01:05:14
Dedicated to the county. 01:05:15
Yeah, we'll have to again. We'll try to meet anything you asked for. We just got to make sure it works for us as far as the 01:05:19
development we're. 01:05:22
Again, that medical was thrown out there. We don't have any idea what we're doing yet. 01:05:25
We want to get approval, we want to start doing some site plans and figure it out from there. 01:05:29
That that's pretty standard to go back to LA to make sure. 01:05:32
For all those old, older county roads. 01:05:37
Described. 01:05:40
Yeah, it's almost a requirement, right? I mean. 01:05:41
I mean, it's going to that scene. 01:05:43
Yeah, should be easy enough. Do we need to write that in the conditions? OK, be written in the conditions. 01:05:45
Are you in favor of this? 01:05:52
Yes, how you are glad to hear that. 01:05:55
Well, I figured that was the first part. The people that are in favor. 01:06:00
There you go, Based on what you did. That's why I'll let you come up there. 01:06:03
All right, now, anybody else in favor? 01:06:07
Thank you. OK, Thank you. 01:06:10
All right, that closes that portion. Let's open up for anybody in opposition. 01:06:12
Sure, you all got lucky. 01:06:18
How do I talk about? 01:06:21
If that case is closed. 01:06:23
Now I don't. 01:06:25
You're welcome, Mr. Grimes, to come up and talk about anything. It was discussed in the. 01:06:26
In the open comments Which? 01:06:31
There were none. 01:06:33
All right, so. 01:06:35
Any other questions at that time, we're going to. 01:06:37
Ask for a ballot. 01:06:40
Please so we can get out of here for you. 01:06:41
Mr. Evil Hazard, Mr. 01:06:44
Yeah, somebody else praying. 1 next week, please Promise, promise me, promise. 2-206-07 Petitioner Nathan Grimes. 01:06:48
Decision After careful review, the Floyd County Planning Commission finds that one. 01:06:56
Rezoning of subject property. 01:07:00
Is consistent with the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan because the rezoning of subject property fits the character of adjoining 01:07:02
parcels. 01:07:06
Through the Southeast and West. 01:07:09
Future commercial land uses will be directed towards the Galena area. 01:07:11
In the town of Greenville. 01:07:15
The site does not have a. 01:07:17
Approved sewer connection at this time. 01:07:19
But development will. 01:07:21
Would require such a connection or a variance before it can be approved. 01:07:22
#2 the rezoning of the subject property. 01:07:28
Is consistent with the current condition. 01:07:31
And the character of current structures and uses in the area because it's rezoning of the subject property fits the character of. 01:07:33
Adjoining proper. 01:07:40
Parcels. 01:07:41
Of the church to the West, the rezoned properties to the South, and Jacobi gas station on US150. 01:07:42
Buffy Yard standards will be required for commercial use. 01:07:48
#3 The rezoning of subject property is necessary for the most desirable use of the land because subject property is located at a 01:07:52
signalized intersection. 01:07:56
On a major on a manner arterially 150 and major collector roadway neighborhood and Rd. 01:08:00
Property is located in a commercial note Galena. 01:08:06
#4 the rezoning of the subject property will. 01:08:11
Be interest to. 01:08:14
Will not be interest to the value of other properties in the. 01:08:15
Because subject property is located near the commercial. 01:08:19
Leaves property. 01:08:22
In persection, 5.09 of the FCCO will require type 2 buffer yard. 01:08:24
With additional 15 foot set back required landscape planning. 01:08:29
A burn or fence. 01:08:34
#5 the rezoning of the subject property will. 01:08:38
Support responsible growth and development in the area because subject property is located in area designated. 01:08:41
For commercial growth and is located at a major signalized intersection. 01:08:47
The 2017 Vision Floyd County Comprehensive Plan The community also has several smaller commercial areas. 01:08:52
These areas provide local commercial needs. 01:08:59
For residents, these areas include Naval and Road US150, Charlestown Rd. County Line Rd. Paoli. 01:09:02
Pike and Scottsville Rowan carbon Pike smaller commercial activities presently can. 01:09:08
Occur in these vicinities and should continue. 01:09:13
Upon careful review, Floyd County Planning Commission hereby makes a favorable recommendation on the petitioners. 01:09:17
Zoning Amendment Application That the meeting held on the 9th of March, 2026. A favorable recommendation is made based on the 01:09:22
following written Commission. 01:09:26
Conceptual plan will be modified. 01:09:31
Before being submitted as a development plan #2A written commitment from the applicant is required to not develop without a sewer 01:09:33
connection. 01:09:37
#330 foot right away from center line and Ableton Rd. is required. 01:09:41
Completes my balance. 01:09:47
We have a second. Any further discussion? 01:09:48
Uh, just a note that's, that's not in Greenville, it's in Floyd Knobs. 01:09:51
I don't know if it's important. 01:09:57
But it's in Floyd now. 01:09:59
Do we need to change anything? 01:10:03
Get your lovely Excuse me, that'd be Lafayette Township. 01:10:05
Nope, that's in Greenville Township, but it's. 01:10:10
Not in Greenville. 01:10:13
Number one. 01:10:15
E-mail Township. 01:10:17
Revealed to Handship is Right. 01:10:19
Excuse me, Greenville Township is right. Greenville Township. 01:10:21
Is correct. I thought you said Greenville town, he says. 01:10:25
That don't it, it doesn't say Township. I can adjust the word. It's a typo. Like I said, I don't know if it's important or not, 01:10:30
but it is important. 01:10:33
You caught something. 01:10:37
It's the investigator come in. 01:10:40
Yeah, there you go. 01:10:41
Amended. 01:10:43
All right, you want to read the amendment, please. 01:10:45
Just read. Just read the line. I don't care just what out of it is. 01:10:47
Future commercial land I would just say with a noted change area and the. 01:10:52
Greenville Township, is that what you want? There you go. Just want to rewritten. 01:10:56
Reread for the record. 01:11:00
OK, Christy's over kicking me. 01:11:01
All right, the amended. 01:11:06
Beth, you want to make a second on the amendment, whoever made the second? 01:11:08
I'll make the motion on the 2nd to. 01:11:12
Any further discussion? 01:11:14
None all in favor signify by aye aye, those opposed likewise. 01:11:16
It passes. Don't nobody leave. 01:11:21
We have nothing else on the. 01:11:23
She does just. 01:11:26
Changing the June 8th meeting and that Nick's going to send out Nick, Angela Frank will send out an e-mail to pull everybody on 01:11:30
the options for June. 01:11:34
All right, you'll be getting noticed from Nick. 01:11:38
Within 90 days. 01:11:49
And the written commitments will need to be recorded. 01:11:51
Prepared, recorded and. 01:11:54
Ready to go prior to? 01:11:56
By statute, we have 90 days from certification. 01:12:02
I certify. Oh, I gotta have it. 01:12:07
I was going to have him send it while you why you closed up. OK, that's good. 01:12:09
Good, good. All right. 01:12:13
What are we? 01:12:15
We clear to go, Frank and Nick. 01:12:16
We good to adjourn. 01:12:19
**** good, right? 01:12:20
Make a motion to adjourn. Motion. 01:12:23
Make a motion to adjourn. Second motion. Second. All in favor signify by. 01:12:25
Alright, see y'all next month. 01:12:31
Thank you, Floyd County. 01:12:33
Sure. 01:12:35
Alright. 01:12:36

Transcript

Event transcript
On today, March 9th, 2026, 7:00 PM. 00:00:00
At this time, we will do the pledge allegiance, please. 00:00:03
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. 00:00:08
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 00:00:11
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:16
All righty, at this time we have roll call. 00:00:21
Here here. 00:00:26
Here here. 00:00:29
Here. 00:00:33
Mr. Bagshaw here. 00:00:34
Here, Mr. Lu. 00:00:36
Here here. 00:00:38
We have a full board. Thank you everybody. 00:00:41
It's nice that there's no football or basketball games on the night. 00:00:45
For sure. All right. 00:00:49
We'd like to have somebody. 00:00:53
Approve the minutes. 00:00:55
Of the February 9th. 00:00:56
And I was not there. So I will not, I will not be able to vote on that. And Connie, thank you for running that meeting for me in 00:00:58
my absence. 00:01:02
Like she did a great job, I just want to make it make mention of the. 00:01:05
I'm glad I got a good make a motion to approve the minutes. We have a motion. I'll second any discussion. 00:01:09
All in favor signify by aye aye. Those opposed likewise thank you. All right now I need medicine for Connie to sign. Who has a 00:01:16
copy of the minutes. 00:01:20
You got one from. 00:01:25
There you go. 00:01:26
I want to send a face. 00:01:27
All righty. We have no old business. Is that correct, Frank? 00:01:30
No old business. 00:01:33
OK. New business is agenda item. 00:01:35
One that agenda item 1 is FC-02-206-05. 00:01:38
And FC-O2-206-06. 00:01:45
And we're putting those together. Is that correct? 00:01:51
And do we need to ask the applicant for permission or? Yes, I would recommend we ask the applicant to make sure we're getting a 00:01:54
thumbs up from Jason Copper weight. OK, you're good with that, Jason. OK, if that's the case, Frank, would you please come up and. 00:02:00
Give us your staff report, Sir. 00:02:05
Good evening everyone. 00:02:08
The proposals for the Ernst Berger Conservation Subdivision. 00:02:11
Location of 6060 State Road 62. 00:02:17
Georgetown, IN 47122 requesting first a zoning map amendment. This is in the zoning district of Rural Residential RR. 00:02:20
And requesting residential suburban. 00:02:28
Applicant is requesting A zoning map amendment to rezone 16.682 acres from rural residential to residential suburban with a 00:02:30
conservation overlay in the Georgetown Township. 00:02:35
The property lies to the north of State Road 62 near the intersection with Unawine Lane and Hancock Rd. located in close proximity 00:02:40
to Gary E Cavan Park and the Edwardsville Gateway District. 00:02:44
This rezone is accompanying the proposal of a 53 lot single family detached residential conservation subdivision with the proposed 00:02:49
density of 3.17 dwellings per. 00:02:53
Acres with 116,348.76 square feet of right away. 00:02:58
And 250. 00:03:03
6000 square feet of open space. 00:03:04
The first half comments the rezoning of the subject property is consistent with the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan because as 00:03:07
this is intended as a conservation subdivision. 00:03:11
The proposal meets the vision for growth. 00:03:15
Growth areas by locating development in close proximity to both sanitary sewers and. 00:03:17
Primary arterial transportation corridors. 00:03:21
While preserving natural features. 00:03:24
This is in line with the principles of smart growth by having smaller lots which require less infrastructure per unit. 00:03:26
For the community to maintain and is in line with the conservation development designs associated with Randall Arendt, author of 00:03:31
Rural by Design, which is on page 41 of the Comprehensive Plan. 00:03:35
The rezoning of the subject property is consistent with the current conditions and the character of current structures. 00:03:40
And uses in the area because other single family residential developments occur just to the north of the site with Sandy Acres 00:03:46
Plat 789 and Woodridge Farm. 00:03:50
Plot 1285. 00:03:54
To the West with Cherry Grove at 1193 and to the east with Pear Ridge. 00:03:55
Flat 1053 just West of Gary Cabin Park is another conservation subdivision. 00:03:59
That was approved in 2024. 00:04:04
Further up Hwy. 62 within the Edwardsville Gateway District are other single family and multi family residential developments. 00:04:06
Further, as a conservation subdivision, this development would intentionally preserve contiguous portions of the existing tree 00:04:12
canopy and landscape. 00:04:15
The rezoning of the subject property is necessary for the most desirable use of the land. As this is intended as a conservation 00:04:21
subdivision, it will provide an alternative. 00:04:25
An alternative housing option to the county while preserving natural features. 00:04:29
The smart growth visions outlined in the Comprehensive Plan encourage A compact building design, creating a range of housing 00:04:33
opportunities and choices. 00:04:36
And preservation of open space and natural beauty. 00:04:39
Further development should be encouraged to concentrate in areas with sanitary sewer access and in proximity to primary arterial 00:04:42
transportation corridors. 00:04:45
The rezoning of the subject property will not be injurious to the value of other properties in the area because the conservation 00:04:50
subdivision will preserve 41.9% of the development as usable recreation and open space or retain natural features. 00:04:56
The constructed homes are intended to be built to a housing price comparable to other newly constructed homes in the area. 00:05:02
The rezoning of the subject property will support responsible growth and development in the area because, as this is accompanied 00:05:09
by a conservation subdivision, the proposed rezoning follows smart growth principles and is consistent with the county planning 00:05:13
documents and nearby land uses such as Gary E Cavan Park. 00:05:18
The Edwardsville Gateway District and residential uses. 00:05:22
Adequate infrastructure is available nearby and can be brought to the properties. 00:05:25
Staff Recommendations Favorable recommendation contingent on the approval of the Conservation subdivision proposed. 00:05:28
For the. 00:05:36
Docket for the actual Conservation subdivision. 00:05:37
The petitioner is seeking approval of conservation subdivision to be known as Maplewood Crossing. 00:05:41
The proposal will consolidate 2 parcels totaling 16.682 acres and 253 lots at 6000 square feet for each lot totaling 354,319 00:05:45
square feet for the developable area. 00:05:50
Service by the proposed Maplewood Dr. 00:05:56
A 50 foot right away consisting. 00:05:58
Or containing 116,348.76 square feet. 00:06:00
With an open space containing the remaining 256,000 square feet. Intended to preserve natural features at the site. 00:06:04
Meeting the conservation subdivision requirements, the property will also have a recreation area containing and I apologize and my 00:06:10
staff report I have updated information after the plaque committee. This was updated to 2 acres. 00:06:15
Including the storm water retention area as a current pond that would be retained. 00:06:21
The developer will provide a horseboard, fence, row and landscaping along Hwy. 62. 00:06:25
Running along the southern border of the development. 00:06:30
The property is located within the transitional residential land use of the Georgetown Township as described by the 2017 00:06:32
Comprehensive Plan on page 47. 00:06:36
The same section encourages conservation subdivisions and residential development to be located within residential growth areas. 00:06:40
Which is defined on page 41 as areas with proximity to adequate infrastructure and public services. 00:06:46
This proposal has obtained the necessary willingness to service letters from the local public services and under the traffic count 00:06:51
required to obtain a traffic study. 00:06:54
While this section does call out that higher density development should be discouraged in transitional areas, higher density is 00:06:59
defined as eight or more dwellings per acre, whereas this proposal is only 3.17 dwellings per acre. 00:07:05
Adjoining properties to the West are a stretch of rural residential properties along the inline lane. 00:07:11
To the east of the property are more rural residential properties along State Route 62. 00:07:15
With the Edwardsville Trace Apartments just past those to the north are the platted subdivisions of Sandy Acres and Woodbridge 00:07:20
Farm. 00:07:23
Both zoned rural residential and just to their W is Gary Cabin Park. 00:07:27
South of the property on the opposite side of State Road 62, our stretch of conforming and non conforming residential lots in the 00:07:32
Agricultural Residential zoning district. 00:07:36
Where are the conservation subdivision density standards? The base density calculation is the net square footage divided by the 00:07:41
base zoning district lot size for the development. 00:07:44
The current base zone for the proposal is rural residential, allowing 16 units. 00:07:48
With the rezone to residential suburban, this would allow a base density of 50.86 units. 00:07:52
The petitioner is also pursuing a 5% density bonus by meeting the requirement to provide a fence row along State Road 62. 00:07:57
Bringing the density up to 53.4 rounded down. 53 units allowed. 00:08:04
A plat review and a neighborhood meeting were held on March 4th for this development. 00:08:08
I've also provided A signet sheet. 00:08:12
The petitioner has provided A compliant preliminary plan for the project, including a preliminary plat. The petitioner has 00:08:15
provided certification that all drainage and. 00:08:19
Environmental requirements will be complied with and that there are no known outstanding issues concerning item. 00:08:23
A geotechnical report is not required for this property. Traffic study is not deemed necessary as this would be under the 75 peak 00:08:28
power trips. 00:08:31
Phase one environmental study was not required. 00:08:35
Lots meet the size and frontage standards of the FCZ Sorry County zoning ordinance for residential suburban in a conservation 00:08:38
subdivision and are laid out along subdivision streets compliant with. 00:08:43
The subdivision control ordinance standards. 00:08:49
Maplewood Dr. Is. 00:08:51
Proposed as the subdivision St. connecting to State Road 62, which still needs. 00:08:52
Actually, we have received the INDOT approval. 00:08:57
That is placed on the. 00:09:00
On the desk as well. 00:09:01
Petitioner has indicated that sidewalks will be provided and the connection is required. 00:09:07
By the subdivision control ordinance to connect to the recreation area provided. 00:09:11
Certification to ME county drainage and stormwater standards. 00:09:16
Has been provided and final approval drainage plans are required prior to secondary approval. 00:09:19
And the petitioner has provided willingness to serve letters from Edwardsville Water Authority, the Floyd County Fire Territory, 00:09:23
Harrison RMC, Duke Energy and Georgetown sewers. 00:09:28
Wastewater will be provided by Georgetown sewers. 00:09:32
As staff recommendations, final approval of drainage stormwater plans and an update to. 00:09:35
The entrance were required prior to secondary approval. That update to the entrance is reflected on the new. 00:09:40
The new platform. 00:09:45
That's in place on your own. 00:09:47
That's that's all. I have those options. 00:09:48
OK, I got a question. 00:09:53
You, you said the traffic study wasn't done because of what was, what's the, what's that right? 00:09:56
There is a certain. 00:10:01
Peak hour trips if they're under that amount. 00:10:06
Then a traffic study is not. 00:10:10
OK, I thought it was based on lots. 00:10:12
It's not based on our. 00:10:14
OK, that's good. 00:10:16
And then? 00:10:17
This is a zone change, correct? 00:10:19
Yes, first a zone change and then a conservation right, But this has to go in front of the commissioners for approval. That 00:10:21
correct, correct. 00:10:25
OK. All right. 00:10:30
Anybody else? 00:10:32
OK this time. 00:10:38
No questions. All right. Thanks, Frank. 00:10:39
OK, at this time the petitioner come up in. 00:10:41
For the instructions on the board, we give him 10 minutes. 00:10:47
Starting now. 00:10:53
What's your name? Thank you. 00:10:55
Thank you, Sir. 00:10:59
Thank you. 00:11:01
Trees, trees, trees. 00:11:06
You already lost 3. 00:11:10
3 trees. 00:11:12
I just thought that I was in the store this year. I just thought that. 00:11:19
Good evening, Jason Copper, Wave, Primavera and Associates, 1000 Bell Lane at New Albany IN here representing Discovery builders 00:11:24
and developers. 00:11:28
With discovery are Alex Minnick and Ethan Ammon. 00:11:32
Also with me is Eric Martin. Some representatives from the family who own the property are here as well. 00:11:36
Arensberger family in the back. 00:11:42
In the back there. 00:11:44
The first slide I showed you is the is an aerial of of the vicinity. 00:11:47
And the site is indicated in the yellow dash. 00:11:52
Dashes. 00:11:54
You see it's on the north side of State Road 62. 00:11:56
Just West of its intersection with Unawine Lane. 00:11:58
As you can see, Gary Caven Park is to the northwest. Edwardsville Trace Apartments or. 00:12:02
Couple properties to the West. 00:12:06
Just southwest of Poly Freeze. 00:12:08
The next side, this is the zoning map for the for the area. 00:12:12
See Edwardsville traces our plan year development. 00:12:15
Gary Cavan is a. 00:12:18
Park. 00:12:19
I think. 00:12:20
I thought there was a zone change for that of the conservation subdivision to the northwest. 00:12:21
Again, the site is indicated in the yellow dashed lines. 00:12:26
The request would be to. 00:12:31
Change the zone from RR to Rs. 00:12:32
And I will read these justifications. The proposal is consistent with the comprehensive plans vision for growth areas by locating 00:12:35
higher density subdivisions. 00:12:39
In close proximity to both sanitary sewers. 00:12:43
And primary arterial transportation corridors. 00:12:46
Following the precepts for smart growth. 00:12:49
State Road 62 is considered a. 00:12:51
If not a major correct collector, IA minor arterial. 00:12:54
And we do have sanitary sewers to the site. 00:12:59
Smaller lot sizes should be considered in these areas if connected to sanitary sewers. 00:13:02
And associated with conservation development design proposed. 00:13:06
In the styles associated with Randall Aaron. 00:13:09
And I'll get to that. 00:13:12
I'll get to that shortly. 00:13:13
The proposed use of single family residential is consistent with the current conditions of the area. 00:13:14
The area consists of single family residential to the east. 00:13:19
North-south and an existing multi family residential planning development to the West. 00:13:22
The rezoning of the property will be necessary for the most desirable land use. 00:13:27
The comprehensive plan outlines smart growth visions. 00:13:30
Objective and policies. 00:13:33
For higher density developments located along major arterial corridors. 00:13:35
Buffer areas have been provided on all. 00:13:39
By bordering property lines to the adjoining neighbors. 00:13:41
And by clustering the development. 00:13:45
It will allow for the pond area to remain. 00:13:47
In an active. 00:13:49
I should say recreational setting. 00:13:51
The rezoning will not be injurious to the value of other properties in the area. 00:13:54
The conservation subdivision design will provide clustered single family residential homes. 00:13:57
Allowing for 41.8% of the development. 00:14:02
To remain as usable. 00:14:05
Recreational open space. 00:14:07
And housing pricing comparable to other new construction homes in the area. 00:14:09
High density residential land use will be directed toward existing infrastructure. 00:14:13
And near existing residential uses. 00:14:17
The Georgetown Township provides opportunities for conservation subdivision design. 00:14:19
Utilizing smart growth to allow for compatibility and uses. 00:14:23
Along a major arterial corridor. 00:14:27
The next slide shows. 00:14:30
Sort of a colored. 00:14:32
Rendering of the site. 00:14:33
The yellow are the are the lots. 00:14:35
The lots are proposed to be in conformance with your RU standard, which is 50 by 120. 00:14:37
As allowed under the conservation regime. 00:14:43
The green spaces are. 00:14:46
Outside the right of way would be open space. 00:14:48
And the mustard colored would be the recreational. 00:14:50
Open space. 00:14:54
You can see the proposed signage. 00:14:55
In the lower right hand corner there. 00:14:58
It is all single family detached residential. There's no attached. 00:14:59
That's all. Same family detached. 00:15:03
Next slide. 00:15:05
This is the density calculation allowed under your ordinance for conservation subdivision. 00:15:08
So. 00:15:13
Contingent upon the zone change, we're proposing 53 single family lots. 00:15:14
They would have 20 foot front yard setbacks, 5 foot side yards, 10 foot rears. 00:15:19
When you take the gross square footage. 00:15:24
Divided by the by right Rs. 00:15:26
That yields 50.86 lots. 00:15:28
And then we can we're using the. 00:15:33
The protecting county view shed from a road density bonus. 00:15:36
Which allows up to 5% density bonus. 00:15:40
That's where we get to the 53.4 lots. 00:15:43
And then we're obviously using the. 00:15:46
3 So with the developers proposing is a horse board fence. 00:15:48
Along the State Road 62 right of way. 00:15:51
That would be landscaped as well. 00:15:54
Which would perfect protect that view shed from from Hwy. 62 from through traffic. 00:15:56
As well as to protect the view of the backyards. 00:16:01
Of those houses that would be facing. 00:16:04
62 plus the green space that we're leaving there. 00:16:06
The open space requirement is is 35%. 00:16:10
We're actually providing 41.8. 00:16:14
Overall green space. 00:16:16
And then 22 acres for 34.2% of the green space is required to be. 00:16:17
It could. I think it says public recreation space. 00:16:25
So the intent there would be to rehab the existing pond that's there. 00:16:27
We're going to use that pond as our detention basin. 00:16:31
But we're going to keep it as. 00:16:33
As a lake. 00:16:36
For an amenity feature. 00:16:37
And there would be walking trails. 00:16:39
Benches, those kind of things in that. 00:16:40
Public recreational areas. 00:16:42
Let's see. 00:16:44
Next slide Discovery is a well established company. They've been around since. 00:16:47
1992. 00:16:51
You can see a list of other projects that they've done and you Albany. 00:16:53
Bridal Wood. Muirfield. Trinity Run. 00:16:56
Windsor Creek. 00:16:59
In Charlestown, they've done Hawthorne, Glen Hux Landing. 00:17:01
Henryville Champions Point. 00:17:05
A heavy Commons in Jeffersonville. 00:17:09
Crown Chase. Plum Run. 00:17:11
And West Monaco run in solid burn. 00:17:14
So it is a well established firm. 00:17:16
The next slide you can see examples of their other projects. 00:17:18
The sides of buildings finish the finishes within a whole. 00:17:22
They're a very, again, a very high quality builder. 00:17:26
So, so the last slide for smart growth. 00:17:31
Your ordinance, your stormwater ordinance, is very stringent. 00:17:35
And obviously we have to. 00:17:39
Comply with that and Chief. 00:17:40
Achieve approval of the stormwater plan. 00:17:43
Prior to any development of the site. 00:17:46
So storm water and drainage control would comply with the Floyd County storm water ordinance. 00:17:48
Sanitary sewer connections would comply with the requirements of Georgetown Utilities. 00:17:52
I understand there's some concern in in Woodbridge. 00:17:56
Would bridge with this the way their sewers are? We'll need to work with the town of Georgetown town. 00:18:00
Obviously make sure we're not making that any worse than it is. 00:18:04
Maybe that will help. 00:18:07
Help alleviate any problems that those residents are having. 00:18:09
The proposal adheres to the Comprehensive. 00:18:12
Planned goals and visions for growth areas within the county. 00:18:15
The Georgetown Township provides opportunity for conservation subdivision design utilizing smart growth to allow for compatibility 00:18:19
and uses along. 00:18:22
The 62 corridor. 00:18:25
The proposed use of single family residential is consistent with current conditions. 00:18:28
Of the area. 00:18:32
And with that, we'd be happy to answer any questions. 00:18:33
Yeah, Jason, you were. 00:18:36
Uh, at the meeting we had. 00:18:39
Technical Review. 00:18:41
Yes. 00:18:43
You were thinking that, Sir, is. 00:18:43
On a different. 00:18:45
Pressure line correct? I don't know the answer to that I think. 00:18:46
Typically when Georgetown develops, especially out in these areas, they're putting in low pressure sewers. 00:18:51
Woodbridge may have originally been. 00:18:57
Approved on septic. 00:19:00
In which case they may have actually. 00:19:01
So. 00:19:03
There's a there's a Lips station at Edwardsville Trace that we designed. 00:19:04
That pumps along the back of Woodbridge and out to the system in Porter Ridge Rd. 00:19:07
Georgetown system. 00:19:13
They may have allowed people to tie in Woodbridge to tie into that force main. I don't know the answer to that. 00:19:15
If so, it might be a mix, it might be an incompatible. 00:19:21
System because I don't know. 00:19:24
Edwardsville Trace is what I would call a high pressure system. It's a lift station force main. 00:19:28
In Woodbridge. 00:19:33
If they're using the low pressure system. 00:19:34
It may not be meshing, but we'll we'll have to work with Georgetown to figure that out. 00:19:37
So we obviously. 00:19:40
My clients have no desire to flood anyone's house either from. 00:19:42
Stormwater or from sanitary sewers. 00:19:46
But but. 00:19:49
And as I explained in the neighborhood meeting. 00:19:50
The development process is sort of a chicken and the egg. 00:19:52
Thing. 00:19:55
Our clients can't spend a lot of money solving other people's problems. 00:19:56
Until they have approval. 00:19:59
Right. 00:20:01
So we need, we need to get past this meeting. 00:20:01
And then we'll have to get a sanitary sewer permit. 00:20:04
Stormwater permits all of those things. 00:20:07
Before we could turn a blade. 00:20:09
A spoonful of dirt on the side. 00:20:11
We'll have to have all those approvals in place. 00:20:13
And certainly before they could build a house. 00:20:15
And then we would come back. 00:20:18
To staff for secondary approval once we have all those things in place. 00:20:20
So, umm. 00:20:23
This is just the first step. 00:20:24
And many things that we have to accomplish before we can actually. 00:20:26
Develop the site. 00:20:28
The roads, they'll, they'll be public, right? Dedicated to the county, yes. 00:20:32
OK. And then one other question as far as the exterior of these. 00:20:37
Are we talking a lot of violin? We talking? 00:20:41
Hardy board we talked and brick. What are we talking about? So little to no vinyl. 00:20:44
Sure. No, Yeah, please. 00:20:50
Because we've approved some stuff and we go by afterwards and it's like all final. It's so embarrassing so. 00:20:53
My name is Ethan. I'm the director of operations for Discovery. They will be brick and Hardy material. 00:20:59
01801 Augusta Blvd. You better say Sir to you. 00:21:05
The only time we would use final would be a vinyl shake product and a Gable that looks just like a hearty shake product. But as 00:21:11
far as the four sides of the home, thank you. Brick or stuff. 00:21:16
Yep. 00:21:23
All right. Any other questions for? 00:21:25
The petitioner. Thank you, Jason. 00:21:27
Thank you. Yeah. All right. At this time, we'll open up. 00:21:29
The floor to anybody like to speak in? 00:21:32
In favor of this project. 00:21:35
Came forward please. 00:21:38
We have 10 minutes allotted for you. Can you talk that long? 00:21:40
State your name and your address. For the record, yes, my name is David Ernst Berger. 00:21:48
And of course, I represent the family. 00:21:53
There's eleven of us, you know, so there's quite a few. 00:21:57
You know I my actual my address is 1118 Ross, Trevor Circle, Louisville, KY. 00:22:01
OK. Thank you. 00:22:07
So I'm not going to say much. It won't take 10 minutes. 00:22:09
Umm, other than. 00:22:12
You know, we could have gone with a developer that was in. 00:22:14
A national, you know, developer. 00:22:17
We didn't want that. 00:22:20
No one in the family wanted that. 00:22:22
We wanted somebody we felt like was a quality. 00:22:25
Builder in this community. 00:22:28
That knew the community and his name. 00:22:30
On what the products and the communities they they build. 00:22:33
And we feel like we. 00:22:39
Have that. 00:22:40
With this development group. 00:22:42
Were highly in favor of the. 00:22:45
Conservation, easement or conservation? 00:22:48
Style of development. 00:22:51
40% of. 00:22:54
Green space was really important to the family. 00:22:55
And so we feel like this is going to be a good development. 00:23:00
A brother of ours lives in. 00:23:05
You know, a home. 00:23:08
By this developer. 00:23:09
It's quality home. 00:23:11
It's about the same comparable size and price. 00:23:13
What's going to be put in here? 00:23:16
So. 00:23:18
We. 00:23:19
You know, wanted to let you know that the whole family does. 00:23:20
In fact, favor. 00:23:23
This development. 00:23:24
And these developers? 00:23:26
So. 00:23:28
How long is your family on that property? 00:23:28
Oh goodness, 1959, is that right? 00:23:31
You're gonna be there when they start excavation. Be sure they don't dig up anything you buried. 00:23:33
So anyway, they they promise to keep a lot of trees and that's what we want. 00:23:42
Thank you. 00:23:47
OK. Anybody else would like to speak in favor come forward? 00:23:50
Last call. 00:23:56
All right, at this time we turn it over to anybody that wants to speak in opposition. 00:23:57
Of the project. 00:24:02
Come forward. 00:24:03
State your name. 00:24:06
And your address. 00:24:08
My name's Joe Ruttle. I live at 963 Unawan Lane. 00:24:13
I have two acres of property there. 00:24:17
And it borders. 00:24:19
What they're building right now. 00:24:21
Just a slow footnote. 00:24:23
The the meeting, the informational meeting that was Wednesday last week. 00:24:25
I got my notice Monday for that meeting. I've not got one for this. I know what's going on. 00:24:29
But I've not gotten any paperwork on it to see. 00:24:34
What they're doing, I ain't got nothing. 00:24:36
I did get a letter in mail on the day I was home. 00:24:38
And they didn't give it to me or they didn't come up to my house. But I, I just want to let you know I've not received nothing. 00:24:41
And you did state your name. I'm sorry. I was talking to the attorney. You stated your name and address. Joseph Brooke. 00:24:46
963 you know online OK sorry we just want to make sure that if you're not getting noticed that you. 00:24:51
You need to be sure you're on. I've got one of them but it was 2 days before the meeting and I didn't get nothing for this. 00:24:57
OK, OK. 00:25:02
I know I can't stop progress but I'm telling y'all. 00:25:04
Water comes across my property like there's no tomorrow, right? It washes me out and. 00:25:07
It all started. 00:25:13
Honest goodness when he put the apartments in. 00:25:14
Yeah, down the road. 00:25:16
Well, let me let me make you feel uncomfortable because I won't tell you, Mr. Cooperate stated this. 00:25:17
Floyd County has these strictest. 00:25:23
Storm water. 00:25:26
Requirements. 00:25:27
It's bigger than Louisville, KY MSD. 00:25:28
And they usually I will tell you 9 times out 10. 00:25:31
Now this is when they get done. 00:25:34
I'm not talking about existing situation. 00:25:36
But when they get done, you'll have. 00:25:38
Less water coming from that property than what was coming from the property now. So I'd like to give you some pictures I got from 00:25:40
my driveway. Welcome but it but we this is this. 00:25:44
This doesn't really. 00:25:49
We appreciate that, but I guarantee you. All right, thank you. 00:25:50
What we want to do? 00:25:54
Any number to the record, all right. 00:25:55
Totally. 00:25:58
It worse is my problem. I mean it just it's, it's gotten worse. I've been there 30 years. 00:25:59
I used to have a ditch. 00:26:04
That I could step across. 00:26:05
Now I'm, no, I'm over, but I can't run a jump across it now, right? It just gets bigger and bigger and it keeps the road in my 00:26:07
property more and more every time. 00:26:11
And it comes right through the middle of my property. 00:26:15
Well, we'll have Mr. Cochran wait when he comes back up to address your concerns, if you don't mind, We'll do that. 00:26:17
And then? 00:26:23
Like I said, the fact that I didn't get the notice in this meeting. 00:26:25
Was kind of my other neighbors have and they've told me about it, right? 00:26:28
And then we're glad you're here. 00:26:32
Yeah. And and I, I would like to and I heard some of the percentages without seeing it on the map. 00:26:35
50 The runoff first of all from. 00:26:41
Two houses is going to be a lot. 00:26:43
That's a lot of water with it. 00:26:46
Roofs and roads. 00:26:48
And it's all coming towards me. 00:26:50
And then once it leaves me. 00:26:51
It crosses, you know, 1. 00:26:53
And I can't. 00:26:55
State for a fact, but I've talked to the county. 00:26:56
The Park Highway department down there and there's a new guy in there now, but the previous guy said. 00:26:59
That the strains is there now it's not big enough. 00:27:03
To cross the road, it goes up over the road. 00:27:06
Right when? 00:27:08
On heavy rains, but it goes over the road on two or three different places. 00:27:09
So that's my biggest concern. 00:27:14
Well, we thank it and we'll have Mr. Copper weight address that on the train. It's for you. 00:27:16
Thank you, Sir. 00:27:20
Definitely not boring. 00:27:21
Next Gordon. 00:27:23
I understand it. 00:27:25
I just want to confirm that we do have a receipt that it was mailed. 00:27:26
Whether it was delivered is really up to the post office, OK. 00:27:35
All right, all right, next. 00:27:39
In opposition in my left. 00:27:44
You can do it man. 00:27:50
It don't take anything really just. 00:27:52
Just state your name and address. My name is Andrew Fulkerson. I live at 865. 00:27:55
You know, one lane. 00:28:01
The back of that neighborhood. 00:28:03
Our potential neighborhood would be the. 00:28:06
Side back of my property. 00:28:09
There is. 00:28:12
Trees that. 00:28:13
I'm pretty much bored and. 00:28:15
I have a shop back there and I keep my camper and stuff and. 00:28:17
My only concern is. 00:28:21
If we open all that up. 00:28:25
Potential for vandalism. 00:28:28
People still on my things. 00:28:30
I just don't like. 00:28:33
No one. It's that open. It's kind of probably the way I have it right now and I feel protected. 00:28:35
And I just. 00:28:41
Don't want vandalism or kids coming back there or getting hurt on my property. 00:28:43
I have little ones and I'm just worried about some kid coming back there and getting hurt. 00:28:47
So if I could hear of some type of. 00:28:52
Way they could keep. 00:28:56
Somebody from getting hurt or if they put a fence back there or something. 00:28:58
I'd be happy with it. 00:29:02
But it's. 00:29:04
I'm worried about the safety. 00:29:05
More than anything. 00:29:07
Thank you. All right. Thank you, Sir. 00:29:09
Come forward, Mr. Barley. 00:29:16
Steve Byerly, 872 Yenawine Lane, Georgetown, IN. 00:29:24
I kind of feel we're seeing. 00:29:31
I kind of feel like I don't want to. 00:29:34
Jump on. 00:29:36
The wagon here and say I'm against it. 00:29:38
Because I. 00:29:42
Probably be a hypocrite. 00:29:43
I've I've probably built more of these subdivisions or helped build more of these subdivisions and. 00:29:46
The wealth, in fact, they know I work for Dan Christianity back in the year today. 00:29:50
43 years so I've I've seen him go in. 00:29:55
I know how they go in and how they go out. 00:29:58
I am concerned about the water. 00:30:02
But. 00:30:04
I know. I know how that works. I know how it. 00:30:05
I know how. 00:30:11
How they? 00:30:12
The drainage. 00:30:12
It's supposed to work. 00:30:13
Now, and, and I, in fact, I'm probably going to be the inspector on this job. 00:30:15
Because. 00:30:20
I'm below. 00:30:22
Joe So I get. 00:30:23
I'll get I get a lot of water. 00:30:25
But the county you know, you know it has nothing to do with probably, probably with the Herst burgers on that property other than. 00:30:27
I hope that we don't get. 00:30:35
Have that problem but county has not. 00:30:36
Address the problem of the of the drainage. 00:30:41
But that's that's not your problem. 00:30:43
I mean, that's that's not so. 00:30:46
I I just want and and the traffic. 00:30:49
Yes, horse traffic's bad. 00:30:51
Everywhere. 00:30:53
So I can't. 00:30:54
I can't show you this. I can't say that it's going to get it would be worse back. 00:30:56
And that is a high traffic area and it's had a lot of accidents there. 00:31:01
Frank, I think, you know, there's a lot of accidents out that way, so. 00:31:06
I'm just gonna leave it at that because. 00:31:10
They're I cleaned their pond out. 00:31:13
I clear youth falls in pond out years ago so I know what's in there and there will be a lot of turtles in there. 00:31:17
All right, thank. Thank you, Steve. 00:31:23
Alrighty. 00:31:27
I do have one question. 00:31:30
You can come up, just state your name and address for the record again. So we got you. 00:31:32
Jose Joseph Rattle, you know my mind. 00:31:38
So if it does, if it does get approved. 00:31:40
Are there going to be like they work on it? 00:31:43
They're gonna have hours where they work. 00:31:45
You know, like. 00:31:47
8:00 to 4:30 not. 00:31:48
Rundown so I hear Bulldogs at 10:00 night. 00:31:50
I've done part of the other side that isn't about my girlfriends right next to the park. 00:31:53
I've heard him over there. 00:31:57
And on weekends, are they going to be running? 00:31:59
Putting the streets in stuff they're going to be. 00:32:02
Probably just Tuesdays and Thursdays between 10:00 and 2:00. 00:32:04
Sets the tea schedule. 00:32:10
I just I mean, you're gonna. 00:32:12
I just can't come out there on Saturday and Sunday and. 00:32:14
I'd say that whatever if county does have some kind of ordinance, they'll have to abide by the ordinance is what I would say. I, I 00:32:17
don't, and I don't know what that is, I'll be honest with you. 00:32:21
Yeah, but it's noted. 00:32:25
Thank you, Sir. 00:32:27
There is a noise ordinance, but it does not include construction. There you go. 00:32:28
Amen. 00:32:33
My name is John Berry. It's Barrie. 00:32:39
I own a property at 887 Yenawine. 00:32:43
I'm not pro or. 00:32:46
Against. 00:32:48
Because I don't like information. 00:32:49
I never got the 1st. 00:32:51
Cutter for the first informational meeting. 00:32:52
I got this one. 00:32:56
And when the first general was speaking. 00:32:57
He kept saying next slide, next slide. These monitors never changed. 00:33:00
So I have no idea what he was looking at. 00:33:04
Or we was, you know, talking to. 00:33:06
Just for the record. 00:33:08
The the rainwater. 00:33:11
Stormwater drains for everywhere to call it. 00:33:12
Is an issue. It's a major issue. 00:33:15
And a lot of driveways along that, the yellow line. 00:33:17
Path there. 00:33:21
Are cracked up and broken because of this. 00:33:22
Transition. 00:33:26
So I'm just looking For more information to look at. Like I said, not pro, not against. 00:33:29
The trees Outback are nice. 00:33:35
It's it's a great scenery and. 00:33:38
I just need more information, more communication. 00:33:41
Understand what the plan is. 00:33:44
Going forward. 00:33:47
So I'll leave it at that. 00:33:48
So I'll give you something. This is yours. 00:33:51
If the water issue Steve. 00:33:55
Steve, is the water issue. 00:33:59
The whole length of Vienna wine. 00:34:03
Or is it halfway so I can have somebody go out there and look? 00:34:06
Yeah, well, not full blank because. 00:34:13
Once it gets down to card. 00:34:15
Right. So between Cordon Ridge. 00:34:17
Between Cordon Ridge and 62 is where I should have them look at it. 00:34:20
I'll, I'll have the engineer go out there with stormwater Guy and look at it. 00:34:24
Let's see if we can dig a big hole or something. 00:34:30
I know you're good. 00:34:35
Alright, we still got a few minutes left. Or is it difficult time out we time down. 00:34:39
OK, All right. Was there anybody else that wants to speak in opposition? 00:34:43
If you make it fast, I'll let you come. If not, we'll close it. 00:34:47
That's it. We can't let Mr. Copperweight, you want to come up and give us a 5 minutes rebuttal and. 00:34:50
I guess what I want to hear is. 00:34:55
Definitely your response on the drainage for sure. Want to hear that and then I'd like to hear. 00:34:57
What kind of buffer they're thinking about maybe coming up with for the I think that was, was that Mister Fulbers who said that? 00:35:02
Yeah, Mr. Focus. So, So on the drainage, as I mentioned earlier, Boyd County has the most stringent drainage ordinance around. 00:35:09
But what we have to do is show that we are not increasing. 00:35:17
From this project. 00:35:20
We are not increasing. 00:35:22
Post development. 00:35:24
Runoff. 00:35:25
Greater than pre development. 00:35:26
For the two, the 10 and the 100 year storm. 00:35:28
And we actually are very, again very stringent requirements. 00:35:30
The review is very stringent. 00:35:34
It's again, it's just very tough. 00:35:38
And I gave them the analogy at the at the neighborhood meeting. 00:35:40
That a detention basin, which is what will turn the pond into. 00:35:43
Is basically like taking a glass. 00:35:47
Drilling a hole in the bottom. 00:35:49
No matter how fast you pour water in the top of the glass, it can only come out. 00:35:51
As fast as that straw will allow it to do. 00:35:55
We size that glass for 100 year storm. 00:35:58
And it can only come out. 00:36:01
At pre development 100 year storm. Great. 00:36:02
Now once, once, once you get to 100 year storm, which is the cap in the ordinance, all bets are off. Everybody has problems at 00:36:05
that point. 00:36:08
But anywhere between? 00:36:11
Zero and 100 years stolen. We're going to capture the runoff from this side. 00:36:13
Run it through our detention basin. 00:36:16
And release it. 00:36:18
I did not promise them that we would make it better. 00:36:19
Oftentimes you see that detention basins make downstream issues better. 00:36:22
I can't say we're going to make it better. 00:36:26
But I can definitely say we're not going to make it worse. 00:36:28
As far as the traffic. 00:36:31
This is an in dot control facility, State Road 62. 00:36:33
I don't know if you got the e-mail from them, but it would get an e-mail from them. 00:36:37
They have again, a stringent review. They're talking about left turn lanes. They may have right turn lanes. 00:36:42
We at least will have to make ingress and egress to the neighborhood. 00:36:48
6. 00:36:51
Through traffic. That's just through traffic. 00:36:53
Your Your ordinance requires a traffic study for anything. 00:36:56
That accesses the collector and arterial. 00:36:59
75 vehicle trips per day. 00:37:02
A subdivision is roughly 1 vehicle peak hour. 00:37:05
Or one vehicle per lot. 00:37:08
One peak hour trip per lot. 00:37:10
So 53 lots doesn't rise to 75. 00:37:12
So that's why we didn't have to do a traffic study. 00:37:16
But. 00:37:18
But 50 three additional. 00:37:18
Trips in an hour on 62 is is that drop in the bucket? 00:37:21
Compared to what's already on 62. 00:37:25
So I don't think you'll see appreciable. 00:37:27
Different appreciable difference there. 00:37:29
As far as the buffer. 00:37:31
And I failed to mention this. 00:37:33
Earlier. 00:37:35
One of my favorite things about conservation subdivisions. 00:37:35
That I like to do. 00:37:39
Is pull the lots in from the outer boundary. 00:37:40
So that all of these lots, none of the lots proposed here, touch an adjacent property. 00:37:43
There is. 00:37:48
20 at least a 20 foot wide and I believe we have 25 feet of space. 00:37:49
From the back of any lot to the. 00:37:54
Our intention is to leave as many of those trees. 00:37:57
In that area. 00:38:00
As we can. 00:38:01
The only thing might be is if. 00:38:02
Along the edge of a lot. 00:38:04
We might put a detention or a Swale in to convey water to the detention basin. 00:38:05
So if there's a tree that's sort of straddles the lot line. 00:38:10
That might have to come out but in that buffer. 00:38:13
There's really no reason for us to take those trees out. 00:38:15
Does that answer your questions? Very much so. 00:38:19
OK. 00:38:22
Again, if you have any questions for me, I'd be happy to answer. Any questions for Mr. I'll just have one I hadn't heard. 00:38:23
We always hear this talk of affordability. What's the price point of these homes? 00:38:29
And it's not your question to answer what we what we talked about at the neighborhood meeting. 00:38:33
Mr. Hammond mentioned 400. 00:38:37
Plus, I said 375 just to give him a little bit of grace, 375. 00:38:39
To 500. 00:38:44
I can't say that this neighborhood is affordable. 00:38:46
But what? But what additional housing stock at that price point does? 00:38:48
Is it frees up housing? Cheaper housing stock? 00:38:52
Right. So if somebody's in a $200,000 house. 00:38:55
And they decide to move up to a $400,000 house. 00:38:57
Now their house is available for someone else that's more affordable. 00:39:00
And it cascades down the line. 00:39:03
OK. 00:39:05
Any other questions? 00:39:07
Is this gonna be catch? 00:39:09
In stormwater. 00:39:10
The drains or is it all released? Yeah, the the streets themselves will have catch basins. 00:39:12
Yes. And then that will all be conveyed to the detention basically. 00:39:17
Drainage is just a big thing. 00:39:24
Sure. 00:39:26
Always is. 00:39:27
You know, traffic's right. 00:39:28
I've talked to Georgetown, they said the sewers won't be any problem. 00:39:30
They check with their engineer and. 00:39:35
So that's not a big problem. 00:39:37
I guess one more question I have is the all the common areas, 41% of the lot you saw the property says. 00:39:40
Common area? Yes. Is the HOA gonna take care of that common area? Yes. 00:39:45
Because sometimes they won't give it to the county. We really don't. We're not taking it. 00:39:50
And we really don't want it. 00:39:54
So the HOA, we take care of all the common area, OK. 00:39:56
All righty. 00:40:01
Thank you. Thank you. 00:40:03
All righty, All righty. 00:40:05
Can I take one second, Mr. 00:40:07
Yeah, Mr. Fulkerson, just as a. 00:40:10
Thought if you have concerns about people crossing through that barrier, you Indiana does have a purple paint law. 00:40:12
So if you know you're lying, you can't put purple paint on the trees. 00:40:17
Just to help mark that. 00:40:20
If that is a concern of yours. 00:40:22
Yeah. 00:40:26
Not blue. 00:40:28
It's gonna be purple. 00:40:29
Hey, Jason, could you mind coming back up just a second? 00:40:32
Do you think your applicant would agree as a condition? 00:40:39
That the final no vinyl except what he as he stated. 00:40:42
It's a written commitment. Written commitment, sure. 00:40:46
What's the? 00:40:49
Makes typical Max on file. 00:40:50
30 square feet. 50 square feet. 00:40:52
OK, OK, OK, that's good. They can do a commitment more than 100 square feet of. 00:40:57
As a condition. 00:41:09
Written commitments, it's generally like he said, it's going to be shake on the. 00:41:11
On the Gables. 00:41:15
Yeah, yeah. I mean, otherwise you're gonna have to. Yeah. We want to ride by when we improve these. You want to ride by when they 00:41:16
built and be proud of them too. We just. 00:41:20
The vinyl just. 00:41:24
Yeah, it's moving. 00:41:28
Remember that. 00:41:30
Remember the houses we looked at in Nob Hill though that had. 00:41:32
Even the Hardy was, yeah, great. Yeah. So there are vinyl products that are there, no doubt. And they proved that, too. 00:41:35
Yeah, I think we approved that, didn't we, Nick? It's on, it's on our list approval, right? 00:41:42
Right. 00:41:46
Condition. 00:41:47
Yeah, it's a high end. Bottle's got the, uh, star foaming behind it. 00:41:51
It's like battle with it. 00:41:56
The cost, they say, is very expensive, but. 00:41:57
We they showed us Hardy and showed us that and. 00:42:00
Right. Well, they already lost money in the house because he said 375. They said over 400. 00:42:03
Thanks. Thank you. 00:42:15
OK, this time close. 00:42:17
And we we're looking for a ballot. 00:42:20
Just see if I have one please. 00:42:23
Please if I have that one. 00:42:26
No. 00:42:27
After checking. 00:42:30
Docket FC02-206-05. 00:42:36
Petitioners named Ernst Berger Planning Trust. 00:42:40
Decision After careful review, the Floyd County Planning Commission finds that number one. 00:42:43
The rezoning of subject property is consistent with the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan. 00:42:49
Because the proposed subdivision meets the division of foite. 00:42:53
Is the vision for growth areas by locating development in close proximity to both sanitary sewers and primary. 00:42:57
Arterial transportation corridors. 00:43:04
While preserving natural features. 00:43:06
This is a land of the principles of smart growth. 00:43:08
By having smaller lots which requires less infrastructure per unit for the community to maintain and is in the land with 00:43:12
conservation development design associated with. 00:43:16
Randall Arnett. 00:43:21
Arthur, a rule by design. 00:43:22
#2 the rezoning of subject property. 00:43:24
Is consistent with the current condition and the character of current structures and uses of in the area because. 00:43:27
Other single family residential developments occurred. 00:43:33
Just to the north. 00:43:36
Of the site. 00:43:38
With Sadie Akers and Woodbridge Farms. 00:43:39
To the West is Cherry Grove and to the east is Prairie. 00:43:42
Just West of. 00:43:46
Of Gary Craven Park is another conservation shop so division that was approved in 2024. 00:43:47
As a conservation subdivision, this development would intentionally. 00:43:53
Preserve contiguous portions of the. 00:43:57
Existing tree canopy. 00:44:00
And landscape. 00:44:02
#3 The rezoning of subject property is necessary for the most desirable use. 00:44:04
Of the land because this development is intended as a conservation subdivision. 00:44:08
It will provide an. 00:44:12
Alternative housing option to the county while preserving natural features. 00:44:14
The smart growth vision outlined in the Comprehensive plan encourages A compact building design. 00:44:18
Creating a range of housing opportunities and choices. 00:44:24
And preservation of open space and natural beauty. 00:44:27
Development is encouraged. 00:44:30
To concentrate in the areas with sanitary sewer access and is. 00:44:31
In proximity to primary artillery transportation corridors. 00:44:35
#4 the rezoning subject property. 00:44:39
Will not be interest to the. 00:44:41
Of other properties in the in the area because the conservation subdivision will preserve approximately 42% of the development. 00:44:43
As usual, recreation open space. 00:44:50
Or retain natural features. 00:44:53
Constructed homes are intended to be built to a housing price comparable to other newly constructed homes in the area. 00:44:55
#5. 00:45:02
Rezoning of subject proper. 00:45:05
Property. 00:45:07
Will support reasonable growth and development in the area because the proposed rezoning follows smart growth principles. 00:45:08
And is consistent with the county paying documents. 00:45:14
And nearby land use such as. 00:45:16
Gary Craven Park, the Edwardsville Gateway District and residential uses. 00:45:18
At adequate infrastructure is available nearby. 00:45:23
And can be brought to the properties. 00:45:27
Upon careful review, the Floyd County Planning Commission hereby makes. 00:45:30
A favorable recommendation. 00:45:34
On the petitioner of rezoning Amendment application at the meeting held on the 9th of March, 2026. 00:45:36
A favorable recommendation is made based on the following. 00:45:42
Commitment. 00:45:45
Disapproval is contingent upon the approval of the proposed conservation subdivision that completes my ballot. 00:45:46
Already we have a ballot. I need a second. 00:45:54
I'll second. 00:45:57
Thank you for writing that. 00:45:57
Yes, Sir. Any discussion? 00:45:59
None all right. Sorry. Just for clarification though. 00:46:02
You guys had asked the applicant if they were willing to. 00:46:05
Add a written commitment in there regarding siding as well. 00:46:09
You OK? 00:46:13
You want on the. 00:46:14
Subdivision. 00:46:16
On the zoning change. 00:46:17
On the zoning. 00:46:19
So it needs to be on this one, OK? 00:46:23
All right, so we do have a additional. 00:46:24
Written, sorry. 00:46:28
Yeah. 00:46:33
Are you going to want to see that as a recorded zoning commitment? Yeah, recorded. 00:46:35
Yes, yeah. 00:46:41
OK, that can help you with that if. 00:46:42
They haven't my applicant or my client hasn't closed on the property. 00:46:46
Does that need to be in the that'll be in the need need to be in the name of the current owner then. Is that right? 00:46:50
Yes. Or when are they planning on closing? 00:46:54
When all the other approvals are in place, probably. Cart, horse, horse, right? A few months probably. 00:46:59
Yeah, yeah. You want a recorded zoning commitment prior to the commissioner meeting? 00:47:07
OK. 00:47:12
I just want to be clear on that, Yeah. And I can help you with that if you need help with it if you don't have Giraffe, but OK. 00:47:12
Just reach out to me. 00:47:18
Appreciate it. 00:47:19
So we had an addition. 00:47:20
So I have amended. 00:47:22
The condition #2 Building material no more than 100 square feet of final per house. 00:47:24
I need I'll still 2nd that I need a second on the amendment. 00:47:31
And all in favor any additional discussion? 00:47:35
All in favor signify by aye aye, those opposed likewise. 00:47:39
Thank you. 00:47:42
All right, we need a ballot. 00:47:43
I'm going the other way first. 00:47:51
Thank you. 00:47:54
Do you have a chance to have a copy that I could get? 00:47:57
Copy of. 00:48:02
Everything I got. 00:48:08
From the working but yeah. 00:48:09
What's this document? 00:48:10
This is this one's alone. 00:48:19
I thought Chris said 5 pages long people. 00:48:21
Did you have a balance? 00:48:24
Oh, I thought you did. 00:48:25
FC O2-206-06 Applicant Ernst Berger, Planning Trust. 00:48:31
Number one, petitioner has met all the following requirements. 00:48:38
A preliminary plan provided be. 00:48:41
Certification demonstrating compliance with IBEM Rule 5C. Plat provided to defend identifying all pertinent informations. 00:48:44
Pursuant to the. 00:48:52
SCO and the Floyd County Planning and Zoning. 00:48:54
Commission rules. 00:48:58
What procedure? 00:49:00
Items DE and F are not applicable. 00:49:01
G site plan provided that shows tough. 00:49:04
Topographic. 00:49:06
Wetlands with flood hazard areas, steep slopes. 00:49:07
Install shown on having. 00:49:11
As having several limitations of program. 00:49:14
H Lots All lots comply with the Floyd County zoning. 00:49:19
Requirements. 00:49:22
Sorry about that. 00:49:24
#2. 00:49:26
All lights are not laid out along existing. 00:49:27
Arterioles collectors are local streets. 00:49:31
#3 all lots meet the link requirements of the SEO. 00:49:34
Item I. 00:49:39
Streets. Streets comply with dimensional geographic standards of the SEO #2 traffic. 00:49:44
Common measures are identified where more than. 00:49:50
35 are proposed #3 Any public streets serving the subdivision meets the SCL surface type. 00:49:53
And right away requirements #4 All streets are named. 00:49:59
Five. There are not. 00:50:03
Any permanent dead end streets or private streets? 00:50:05
6 Indiana Department of Transportation approval. 00:50:09
Has been received from Maple Dr. intersection with Hwy. 62. 00:50:12
#7 curbs and gutters conform to the Indiana dot standard specifications or equivalent standards as determined by the County 00:50:16
engineer. 00:50:20
Jay driveways, intersection entrances. 00:50:24
Number one. 00:50:27
The proposal does not provide. 00:50:28
Two subdivision entrances required. 00:50:30
For a 50 or more life subdivision, however, the developer will. 00:50:33
Meet this requirement by providing a single entrance with two lanes, each 16 foot wide. 00:50:37
Separated by landscape meeting at least 12 foot wide, extending for a distance of 100 feet. 00:50:42
#2 Driveway separation meets the requirements of the SCO. 00:50:48
#3 All driveways intersection are located in accordance with the SEO. 00:50:52
OK, sidewalk. Sidewalks will be prevented. 00:50:56
On both sides of the subdivision streets. 00:50:59
#2 is pedestrians. 00:51:02
Access will be provided to any park common space recreation. 00:51:04
Facility. 00:51:08
Located in the subdivision. 00:51:09
#3. 00:51:12
Protective covenants will assign the obligations for the maintenance and repair of sidewalks and trails to the Lot Lot Owners 00:51:13
Association. 00:51:17
How convenient covenants will be consistent with the SCO? 00:51:22
#2 Petitioner has provided certification to meet the following requirements for drainage and storm water. 00:51:25
Hey at the NR approval will be obtained for. 00:51:31
Alterations to the natural drainage pattern and natural stream patterns caused by construction of the subdivision. 00:51:35
B. Any drainage system will be in. 00:51:41
Meets the minimum standards of the SCO. See drainage reports will be provided. 00:51:44
D Final drainage plans are required prior to secondary approval. 00:51:50
#3 Petitioner has provided a letter confirming availability and willingness to serve. 00:51:54
For all necessary utilities, water, sewage, fire. 00:51:59
And electric #4 petitioner has met the following requirements for sewer and septic service. 00:52:03
A service for the subdivision lights. 00:52:09
Will be extended to an IDEM approved municipal or county owned. 00:52:11
For Cooperative sanitary sewer. 00:52:16
B is not applicable. 00:52:18
Decision upon careful review, the Floyd County Planning Commission hereback grants. 00:52:22
Introduce your primary approval. 00:52:26
For major subdivisions. Meeting held on the 9th of March 2026. 00:52:28
Primary approval is based on a completion of the filing condition. 00:52:33
Final approval of drainage and stormwater. 00:52:36
Approval by Indiana dot for subdivision Rd. connection. 00:52:39
And an update to the entrance for Section 3 point. 00:52:42
You know of the subject control ordinances required prior to the secondary approval? 00:52:46
That completes my ballot. 00:52:52
I'll second that ballot. All right, we have a second any. 00:52:55
Had discussion. 00:52:59
All in favor signify by aye. 00:53:01
Those opposed likewise. 00:53:03
You are past. Thank you very much. 00:53:06
Okay. 00:53:12
We'll wait while we're getting this sign and if you guys want to leave and we'll get our next docket up here. 00:53:14
Umm, Frank, you wanna go forward? 00:53:19
And big on this one. We did the original survey work on this a couple years ago, so I'm going to recuse myself from this, all 00:53:23
right? 00:53:26
All right, agenda item number 2. 00:53:31
I gave it to Christy. 00:53:39
Wait just a second. 00:53:43
Hey guys, let a Jason. 00:53:46
Can you all go out in the hall so we can continue on? Thanks, I appreciate it. 00:53:48
Oh, no problem. 00:53:53
Thank you guys. 00:53:54
All right, go ahead, Frank. This is a agenda item FC-2. 00:53:58
02-206-07. 00:54:02
Zoning map amendment, go ahead. Thank you. 00:54:05
So petitioners taking grants on behalf of Troy Streaking. This is located at 5386 Napleton Road and 5390 Navalton Rd. 00:54:07
The request is a zoning map amendment. The zoning district currently is rural residential requesting neighborhood commercial. 00:54:15
Applicant is requesting A zoning map amendment to rezone 2 properties from rural residential to neighborhood commercial located on 00:54:21
.65 acres. Properties are located at the corner of Napleton Road and Brown Street, just off of the US 150. 00:54:28
These properties are adjacent to a previously approved zoning map amendment that changed the zoning from RR to NC with docket. 00:54:34
Hold on just a second. 00:54:41
We we gotta. 00:54:42
We got to get to order here. We can't. 00:54:43
I made DD man I can't take all one time. 00:54:46
Yeah, hold on just a second. 00:54:49
All right, go ahead, continue. 00:54:51
Applicant is requesting A zoning map amendment to rezone 2 properties from Rural Residential RR to Neighborhood Commercial NC 00:54:54
located on 0.65 acres. 00:54:58
Properties are located at the corner of Napleton Road and Brown Street, just off of US150. 00:55:02
These properties are adjacent to a previously approved zoning map amendment that changed the zoning from RR to NC with Docket 00:55:07
FC-0519-17. 00:55:12
And was approved with the following written commitments. 00:55:17
Any future development will be required to be connected to a sanitary sewer system. 00:55:19
The future commercial use of this property must be compatible and complement the adjoining residential properties. 00:55:23
Buffer yard standards will be required and all all signage will meet county standards. 00:55:28
The zone amendment is to accommodate a proposed conceptual plan for a new 5000 square foot healthcare practitioner's office 00:55:33
building. 00:55:36
The conceptual proposal would still need an approved development plan. The site does not currently have approved sewer connection. 00:55:39
For staff comments, the rezoning of the subject property is consistent with the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan because. 00:55:46
The rezoning of the subject property fits the character of adjoining parcels to the South, east and West. Future commercial land 00:55:52
use will be directed towards the Galena area and the town of. 00:55:56
Town of Greenville. 00:56:01
Greenville Township page 50 of the Comprehensive Plan. 00:56:02
The site does not have approved sewer connection at this time, but development would require such a connection or variance before 00:56:05
it could be approved. 00:56:09
The rezoning of the subject property is consistent with the current conditions and the character of current structures and uses in 00:56:12
the area because the rezoning of the subject property fits the character of adjoining parcels to the of the church to the West, 00:56:16
the rezoned properties to the South. 00:56:20
And the Jacobi gas station on US150. However, there are homes across Brown Street. 00:56:25
Buffer yard standards will be required for commercial use if the amendment is approved. 00:56:29
The rezoning of the subject property is necessary for the most desirable use of the land because. 00:56:33
Subject property is located at a signal. 00:56:38
Signalized intersection of a minor arterial US150 and major collector roadway. Napleton Rd. Property is located in a commercial 00:56:40
node. 00:56:44
Just Galita. 00:56:49
The rezoning of the subject property will not be injurious to the value of the property. 00:56:50
Of the of the other properties in the area because subject property is located near other commercially zoned properties. 00:56:54
And for Section 5.09 of the Floyd County zoning ordinance will require a Type 2 buffer yard. 00:57:00
With an additional 15 foot set back with required landscape. 00:57:06
Plantings and a berm or fence. 00:57:09
The rezoning of the subject property will support responsible growth and development in the area because subject property is 00:57:11
located in an area designated for commercial growth and is located at a major signalized intersection. 00:57:16
2017 Vision, Floyd County Comprehensive Plan states. 00:57:22
The community also has several smaller commercial areas. These areas provide local commercial needs for residents. These areas 00:57:25
include the Ableton Rd. US150. 00:57:29
Charlestown Rd. County Line Rd. 00:57:33
Paoli Pike, Scottsdale Rd. And Cordon Pike. 00:57:35
Small commercial activities presently occur in these vicinities and should continue. 00:57:37
That's from the growth assessment. 00:57:41
Or growth areas for commercial Page 43 of the Comprehensive Plan. 00:57:43
Or staff comments. The conceptual plan will need several modifications before submission as a development plan. 00:57:47
And for staff recommendations written commitment to not develop without sewer connection. 00:57:53
So I have to stop. 00:57:58
On his. 00:58:01
On his sketch. 00:58:02
That the applicant is approved. I know this isn't. 00:58:04
It's just a conceptual thing. 00:58:07
Put the buffers on. 00:58:09
Across the rear of the property. 00:58:12
He doesn't bring that buffers on all the way. Doesn't he have to cover the whole? 00:58:14
Or is it because there's a parking lot? I'm a little confused where. 00:58:18
I. 00:58:23
And I apologize because it's been a moment since I last looked at this, but the my understanding was that that buffer would have 00:58:24
to go across the entirety. 00:58:27
Across the entire back line. 00:58:31
OK, so I'll be over right now. 00:58:33
I have a question. 00:58:36
This is not looking at fixing the light at 150 Napleton so there is an actual turn lane. 00:58:37
Because it's coming from. 00:58:43
The Firehouse if you if it was a medical building. 00:58:45
Traffic's gonna get backed up 'cause you're not gonna be able to turn left during peak hours. 00:58:48
Not going to return left at all. Hardly. 00:58:53
Yeah, yeah, you can't. Hardly now anyway. 00:58:55
But now for putting a facility there where people have to get there at a certain time. 00:58:58
Huh. 00:59:05
I don't have an answer for. 00:59:06
That would be up to him that they would, they would conduct a study and determine whether it's warranted or not and they would 00:59:19
install that. 00:59:23
I just didn't know. I know and I was doing stuff, so I didn't know where we fell in. 00:59:28
I mean, if they have looked at, I know they have looked at that light they looked at. 00:59:32
Yes, it is. That would be determined. That's fine. Yeah. 00:59:41
In this entrance, here is how much commercial traffic. 00:59:46
Who is the Illinois? 00:59:50
On the staff report. 00:59:52
On the neighboring property that was previously approved. 00:59:54
Have they got served? 00:59:59
No, not at this time and development. 01:00:01
Right, no development. 01:00:05
But. 01:00:09
Pardon me, where was that? 01:00:11
That you're it's in his in his staff report overview the the adjacent property that received that researching the condition 01:00:12
because it's a part of this conceptual. 01:00:18
Plan uh, it is directly adjacent to several of the lots that they're requesting to be rezoned and included in the conceptual. 01:00:24
Plan OK, so part of it was already rezoned and part hasn't so part of. 01:00:32
OK has already been zoned neighborhood commercial. They're asking for a couple additional lots that are directed to adjacent and 01:00:38
then they will have a single property. 01:00:43
Where where the parking lot is has already been approved. 01:00:48
Yeah, the back part. 01:00:50
Where the detention basin and the building is, that's not in the approved. 01:00:52
There are two additional lots, so there's two houses that have to be torn down and all that. 01:00:57
And. 01:01:02
Thanks. Switch it. 01:01:04
Right. 01:01:06
They had to run under 150 for sewer, correct? 01:01:07
Would you say Frank? 01:01:13
They had to run under 150 for sewers, so the state's going to be involved quite a bit. 01:01:15
If you go forward with that. 01:01:21
I would really caution you on the shrubbery that you put on that corner. 01:01:23
Because you can't see now. 01:01:28
And there's nothing there. 01:01:31
There's everybody signs that does roofing. 01:01:32
Yeah, I'm waiting. 01:01:39
Just one more note, this is for the rezoning. We would have a full development interview look at. 01:01:43
Are the entrances right? Turn lanes require all those things? 01:01:49
Gotcha. 01:01:56
Thank you. We got it. 01:01:57
Thank you, Frank. 01:01:59
All right, applicant, come forward, Mr. Grimes. 01:02:01
State your name and address for the record. 01:02:06
Yeah, Nathan Grams with Renaissance Design Build, 117 S Indiana Ave. Sullenburg, Indiana. 01:02:08
You're representing Troy Segrell, who owns the NCLLC. 01:02:14
And just kind of. 01:02:19
Give you guys a little overview. I think you've discussed a lot of it already. 01:02:23
The there's a total of 123. 01:02:28
There's a total of 6 lots we're talking about here. 01:02:35
I think 4 of them have already been rezoned in. 01:02:38
And they're currently undeveloped. 01:02:41
And there's a two that have housed on them or what we're. 01:02:43
It owner owns them as well so we try to get the whole. 01:02:46
Corridors or old group? 01:02:50
Zoned the NC is what we're doing here. 01:02:53
And I'm not sure he actually has a. 01:02:55
Ten and four this year, did you? 01:02:59
So it's not. 01:03:01
So the entrances that are showing on here, all that in the parking lot, we're not, we're not. That's that's just. 01:03:04
Yeah, I got you. So that you can get the right parking on it and a detention basin and. 01:03:13
Landscaping in. 01:03:18
Russian, we intend to meet your ordinances, whatever. 01:03:20
Will abide by the sewer. 01:03:23
So we don't want to get into all the answers and. 01:03:25
One of the houses is these be torn out already. 01:03:29
They're going to tear that down. The other house may come down later at this point time so. 01:03:31
But anyway, we're trying to get the whole. 01:03:36
Thing zoned NC. 01:03:38
And like the staff report said. 01:03:41
This meets all the criteria for the three criteria as you're. 01:03:43
Need, and there's NC. 01:03:47
To the left, to the right, across the street on 150. 01:03:50
Everything's already in C, except across Brown Street. 01:03:54
Thing and maybe the adjoiner. 01:03:57
Down Brown Street, so. 01:04:02
Does the applicant already own this property or is it under option? 01:04:04
Yes. 01:04:10
Any other questions? 01:04:12
For Mr. Grams. 01:04:14
No, I haven't had questions. 01:04:16
Yeah, simple is good. 01:04:20
After. 01:04:24
PCA. 01:04:26
OK. Thank you, Nathan, at this time. 01:04:29
We opened up the floor name I want to speak in. 01:04:34
Favor of this? 01:04:37
Come forward. 01:04:40
Do you have any more questions if you need to? 01:04:41
What you gotta? 01:04:44
I can't talk to you like that. I've got it. You got to state your name, right? All that's good stuff. Yeah. State your name and 01:04:45
address. 01:04:48
Troy Striegel, 4100, for sales Court. 01:04:52
Only knows. Go ahead. You guys got any questions for the property? 01:04:55
The there's one, there is one requirement. 01:04:59
And I would probably add to this. 01:05:02
Hopefully you don't have a problem, but. 01:05:04
On Napleton Road I'd be asking for 30 foot or right away from Centerland. 01:05:07
For county. 01:05:14
Dedicated to the county. 01:05:15
Yeah, we'll have to again. We'll try to meet anything you asked for. We just got to make sure it works for us as far as the 01:05:19
development we're. 01:05:22
Again, that medical was thrown out there. We don't have any idea what we're doing yet. 01:05:25
We want to get approval, we want to start doing some site plans and figure it out from there. 01:05:29
That that's pretty standard to go back to LA to make sure. 01:05:32
For all those old, older county roads. 01:05:37
Described. 01:05:40
Yeah, it's almost a requirement, right? I mean. 01:05:41
I mean, it's going to that scene. 01:05:43
Yeah, should be easy enough. Do we need to write that in the conditions? OK, be written in the conditions. 01:05:45
Are you in favor of this? 01:05:52
Yes, how you are glad to hear that. 01:05:55
Well, I figured that was the first part. The people that are in favor. 01:06:00
There you go, Based on what you did. That's why I'll let you come up there. 01:06:03
All right, now, anybody else in favor? 01:06:07
Thank you. OK, Thank you. 01:06:10
All right, that closes that portion. Let's open up for anybody in opposition. 01:06:12
Sure, you all got lucky. 01:06:18
How do I talk about? 01:06:21
If that case is closed. 01:06:23
Now I don't. 01:06:25
You're welcome, Mr. Grimes, to come up and talk about anything. It was discussed in the. 01:06:26
In the open comments Which? 01:06:31
There were none. 01:06:33
All right, so. 01:06:35
Any other questions at that time, we're going to. 01:06:37
Ask for a ballot. 01:06:40
Please so we can get out of here for you. 01:06:41
Mr. Evil Hazard, Mr. 01:06:44
Yeah, somebody else praying. 1 next week, please Promise, promise me, promise. 2-206-07 Petitioner Nathan Grimes. 01:06:48
Decision After careful review, the Floyd County Planning Commission finds that one. 01:06:56
Rezoning of subject property. 01:07:00
Is consistent with the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan because the rezoning of subject property fits the character of adjoining 01:07:02
parcels. 01:07:06
Through the Southeast and West. 01:07:09
Future commercial land uses will be directed towards the Galena area. 01:07:11
In the town of Greenville. 01:07:15
The site does not have a. 01:07:17
Approved sewer connection at this time. 01:07:19
But development will. 01:07:21
Would require such a connection or a variance before it can be approved. 01:07:22
#2 the rezoning of the subject property. 01:07:28
Is consistent with the current condition. 01:07:31
And the character of current structures and uses in the area because it's rezoning of the subject property fits the character of. 01:07:33
Adjoining proper. 01:07:40
Parcels. 01:07:41
Of the church to the West, the rezoned properties to the South, and Jacobi gas station on US150. 01:07:42
Buffy Yard standards will be required for commercial use. 01:07:48
#3 The rezoning of subject property is necessary for the most desirable use of the land because subject property is located at a 01:07:52
signalized intersection. 01:07:56
On a major on a manner arterially 150 and major collector roadway neighborhood and Rd. 01:08:00
Property is located in a commercial note Galena. 01:08:06
#4 the rezoning of the subject property will. 01:08:11
Be interest to. 01:08:14
Will not be interest to the value of other properties in the. 01:08:15
Because subject property is located near the commercial. 01:08:19
Leaves property. 01:08:22
In persection, 5.09 of the FCCO will require type 2 buffer yard. 01:08:24
With additional 15 foot set back required landscape planning. 01:08:29
A burn or fence. 01:08:34
#5 the rezoning of the subject property will. 01:08:38
Support responsible growth and development in the area because subject property is located in area designated. 01:08:41
For commercial growth and is located at a major signalized intersection. 01:08:47
The 2017 Vision Floyd County Comprehensive Plan The community also has several smaller commercial areas. 01:08:52
These areas provide local commercial needs. 01:08:59
For residents, these areas include Naval and Road US150, Charlestown Rd. County Line Rd. Paoli. 01:09:02
Pike and Scottsville Rowan carbon Pike smaller commercial activities presently can. 01:09:08
Occur in these vicinities and should continue. 01:09:13
Upon careful review, Floyd County Planning Commission hereby makes a favorable recommendation on the petitioners. 01:09:17
Zoning Amendment Application That the meeting held on the 9th of March, 2026. A favorable recommendation is made based on the 01:09:22
following written Commission. 01:09:26
Conceptual plan will be modified. 01:09:31
Before being submitted as a development plan #2A written commitment from the applicant is required to not develop without a sewer 01:09:33
connection. 01:09:37
#330 foot right away from center line and Ableton Rd. is required. 01:09:41
Completes my balance. 01:09:47
We have a second. Any further discussion? 01:09:48
Uh, just a note that's, that's not in Greenville, it's in Floyd Knobs. 01:09:51
I don't know if it's important. 01:09:57
But it's in Floyd now. 01:09:59
Do we need to change anything? 01:10:03
Get your lovely Excuse me, that'd be Lafayette Township. 01:10:05
Nope, that's in Greenville Township, but it's. 01:10:10
Not in Greenville. 01:10:13
Number one. 01:10:15
E-mail Township. 01:10:17
Revealed to Handship is Right. 01:10:19
Excuse me, Greenville Township is right. Greenville Township. 01:10:21
Is correct. I thought you said Greenville town, he says. 01:10:25
That don't it, it doesn't say Township. I can adjust the word. It's a typo. Like I said, I don't know if it's important or not, 01:10:30
but it is important. 01:10:33
You caught something. 01:10:37
It's the investigator come in. 01:10:40
Yeah, there you go. 01:10:41
Amended. 01:10:43
All right, you want to read the amendment, please. 01:10:45
Just read. Just read the line. I don't care just what out of it is. 01:10:47
Future commercial land I would just say with a noted change area and the. 01:10:52
Greenville Township, is that what you want? There you go. Just want to rewritten. 01:10:56
Reread for the record. 01:11:00
OK, Christy's over kicking me. 01:11:01
All right, the amended. 01:11:06
Beth, you want to make a second on the amendment, whoever made the second? 01:11:08
I'll make the motion on the 2nd to. 01:11:12
Any further discussion? 01:11:14
None all in favor signify by aye aye, those opposed likewise. 01:11:16
It passes. Don't nobody leave. 01:11:21
We have nothing else on the. 01:11:23
She does just. 01:11:26
Changing the June 8th meeting and that Nick's going to send out Nick, Angela Frank will send out an e-mail to pull everybody on 01:11:30
the options for June. 01:11:34
All right, you'll be getting noticed from Nick. 01:11:38
Within 90 days. 01:11:49
And the written commitments will need to be recorded. 01:11:51
Prepared, recorded and. 01:11:54
Ready to go prior to? 01:11:56
By statute, we have 90 days from certification. 01:12:02
I certify. Oh, I gotta have it. 01:12:07
I was going to have him send it while you why you closed up. OK, that's good. 01:12:09
Good, good. All right. 01:12:13
What are we? 01:12:15
We clear to go, Frank and Nick. 01:12:16
We good to adjourn. 01:12:19
**** good, right? 01:12:20
Make a motion to adjourn. Motion. 01:12:23
Make a motion to adjourn. Second motion. Second. All in favor signify by. 01:12:25
Alright, see y'all next month. 01:12:31
Thank you, Floyd County. 01:12:33
Sure. 01:12:35
Alright. 01:12:36