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| Welcome to the Floyd County Council regular meeting for Tuesday, May 12th, 2026. | 00:00:05 | |
| Please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance. | 00:00:10 | |
| Pledge allegiance to the flag. | 00:00:13 | |
| The United States of America. | 00:00:15 | |
| To the Republic for which it stands. | 00:00:17 | |
| One Nation. | 00:00:20 | |
| Under God, indivisible. | 00:00:21 | |
| With liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:23 | |
| All right, let the record show that we are. We have six members of the seven here. | 00:00:29 | |
| Mr. Fry Burger is not with us tonight. | 00:00:34 | |
| Councilman Tran, would you? | 00:00:38 | |
| Say the prayer force this evening. | 00:00:40 | |
| Currently. Thank you for it. | 00:00:44 | |
| This day that you have restless to see and we thank you for. | 00:00:45 | |
| The privilege to gather together in. | 00:00:49 | |
| This rule's preferred service for the people of this family. | 00:00:52 | |
| We wouldn't ask that every good and. | 00:00:56 | |
| Come from you. | 00:00:58 | |
| And we ask for your wisdom, your damage. | 00:00:59 | |
| The ring is cancel. | 00:01:03 | |
| And as we meet, going. | 00:01:06 | |
| What's my name? | 00:01:08 | |
| A scene from The Commanders. | 00:01:10 | |
| Around and we know a new beginning for private. | 00:01:11 | |
| You embrace the work of. | 00:01:15 | |
| And then decisions before us. | 00:01:17 | |
| And. | 00:01:21 | |
| I have employees that take care of the healthcare. | 00:01:26 | |
| Remember that animal labor daily? | 00:01:28 | |
| To strengthen our community. | 00:01:30 | |
| I will have to. | 00:01:33 | |
| Reasoning to manage the resources responsibly. | 00:01:34 | |
| What is going to plan for the future and the humidity to remember that leadership is serviced. | 00:01:38 | |
| Are these things we ask in your son Jesus name? | 00:01:44 | |
| Amen. | 00:01:47 | |
| Thank you, Tony. | 00:01:48 | |
| Alright, acceptance of tonight's agenda. | 00:01:50 | |
| Move text app. | 00:01:54 | |
| 2nd. | 00:01:55 | |
| We have a motion and a second for. | 00:01:57 | |
| Tonight's agenda? Any discussion? | 00:02:00 | |
| All in favor say aye. | 00:02:04 | |
| Aye, any opposed? | 00:02:05 | |
| That carries. | 00:02:07 | |
| Approval minutes from our April 14th meeting. | 00:02:09 | |
| Move to approve. | 00:02:13 | |
| 2nd I have a motion and a second. | 00:02:15 | |
| April 14th meetings. Any discussion on those? | 00:02:18 | |
| All in favor say aye aye. | 00:02:22 | |
| Any opposed? | 00:02:24 | |
| I abstain. | 00:02:25 | |
| I was absent. | 00:02:26 | |
| That that passes with one abstention. | 00:02:28 | |
| We will now open the. | 00:02:32 | |
| Public hearing for Night Tonight's additional. | 00:02:34 | |
| Appropriations. Is there anyone from the public that would like to speak? | 00:02:37 | |
| About our additional appropriations. | 00:02:40 | |
| Seeing none, I will adjourn the public hearing, and we will. | 00:02:45 | |
| Get started with new business. | 00:02:48 | |
| Page, you're up, Baker Tilly. | 00:02:50 | |
| Thank you. | 00:02:58 | |
| I'm good, I made my own. | 00:02:59 | |
| I. | 00:03:17 | |
| Yard. | 00:03:23 | |
| Well, thank you for having me on the agenda. I wanted to give you an update on some legislative changes and also give you a | 00:03:26 | |
| preview of your budget. | 00:03:30 | |
| I do want to let you know that the we have updated your long term financial plan. | 00:03:34 | |
| It is nearly complete. I would like to come back next month and present that draft to you. | 00:03:39 | |
| And that'll be just in time, hopefully for your, your budget season. What we're waiting on right now is. | 00:03:45 | |
| 2026 circuit breaker information from the department of local government finance It should be any day that we get that we did get | 00:03:51 | |
| circuit breaker information from the county abstract which. | 00:03:56 | |
| Is hopefully identical to what DLGF will give us, but we just want to make sure and we also. | 00:04:02 | |
| Are running that parcel by parcel analysis so we can have a good outlook through 2031 as to how Senate Enrolled Act One will | 00:04:07 | |
| impact you. | 00:04:12 | |
| So all of that is underway again, nearly complete. We will be back here next month. I'll work with Diana to figure out the best | 00:04:17 | |
| date to appear before you with that information. | 00:04:23 | |
| So. | 00:04:30 | |
| Again wanted to give where should I point those because it's not working. How is it not working? | 00:04:31 | |
| OK, thank you. OK. So first of all with the local income tax, there were some changes at the beginning of the year and. | 00:04:39 | |
| Honestly, we anticipate. | 00:04:47 | |
| Further changes in the 2027 legislative session. So just when we thought we had figured it out. | 00:04:50 | |
| I I'm sure there will be additional changes, but here's the good news. | 00:04:56 | |
| It has been delayed. The implementation of the new local income tax structure has been delayed till 2029. That's good news | 00:05:00 | |
| because. | 00:05:04 | |
| The Department of Revenue doesn't yet have the information we need or in for any of the municipalities to determine the adjusted | 00:05:09 | |
| gross income by municipality as you know the way our structure works right now. | 00:05:15 | |
| We do have the adjusted gross income county wide. | 00:05:21 | |
| But it's not broken out by municipality in order for us. | 00:05:25 | |
| For this new structure to work, we need to have it by municipality. | 00:05:28 | |
| Now we are able to get very good estimates of the adjusted gross income, so we are running local income tax analysis. | 00:05:33 | |
| We, we will do that. | 00:05:40 | |
| Based on the estimated adjusted gross income. | 00:05:43 | |
| But regardless, it has been delayed to 2029, so in 2028 you all will be making some very important decisions. | 00:05:46 | |
| And I'm going to talk about the municipal unit task force before I leave here tonight because that's part of. | 00:05:53 | |
| That's a very important part of making those decisions in 2028. | 00:06:00 | |
| So another change. | 00:06:05 | |
| Pretty significant. | 00:06:08 | |
| Is that there is now the ability for those municipalities that are 3500 and above population. | 00:06:09 | |
| They could now opt into a county wide municipal rate. | 00:06:18 | |
| So if you remember under the previous legislation. | 00:06:23 | |
| Those municipalities that have populations up below 3500. | 00:06:27 | |
| Had to be into, had to be in the county wide municipal rate. They had no choice. | 00:06:31 | |
| But those that were 3500 and above, like new album New Albany for example. | 00:06:37 | |
| They could just go and adopt their own reign. | 00:06:42 | |
| Well, what we were finding last year is that those larger municipalities were not bringing in near what they they would be. | 00:06:44 | |
| Or what they are currently under that type of structure because? | 00:06:53 | |
| Their rate would only be on the adjusted gross income of their municipality rather than county wide. | 00:06:58 | |
| So now that they are able to opt into the county wide, so here it would be like New Albany and Georgetown could now be in that | 00:07:03 | |
| county wide pool. They will likely benefit from that. | 00:07:09 | |
| But they're going to lose the ability to be able to adopt their own. | 00:07:15 | |
| So this is all things that that we need to kind of look at. | 00:07:19 | |
| Run analysis, run scenarios and see. | 00:07:23 | |
| How it benefits? | 00:07:27 | |
| You the county unit. | 00:07:28 | |
| Will be able to get a share of this county wide municipal rate. | 00:07:30 | |
| Think which would be an adjust addition to your county wide county services rate. | 00:07:34 | |
| So there is a benefit to the county unit as well. | 00:07:40 | |
| Lit readoption. So when this first came about, we were going to have to adopt this local income tax annually. | 00:07:46 | |
| That is still there, but. | 00:07:54 | |
| When you adopt it for the first time, that's going to carry for three years then. | 00:07:56 | |
| There will be annual adoption after that. | 00:08:01 | |
| Five, there were changes made to the fire and EMS local income tax. | 00:08:05 | |
| So the changes. | 00:08:10 | |
| Really give the county more ability to. | 00:08:12 | |
| In the way in which you allocate these. | 00:08:17 | |
| So another words. | 00:08:19 | |
| There was this 20 times multiplier for the service area and it was a very specific formula on how you allocate. | 00:08:21 | |
| The fire Ernie and massive revenue. | 00:08:28 | |
| And none of it seemed to go to the county unit. | 00:08:30 | |
| Which was a huge flaw. If you Remember Me coming last year, I said that was a huge flaw in the legislation that's been fixed now. | 00:08:33 | |
| There is an allocation that go to. | 00:08:40 | |
| That can go to the county unit as well as fire territories districts. | 00:08:42 | |
| And then, in certain circumstances, townships. | 00:08:46 | |
| You, as the County Council, can still decide to. | 00:08:50 | |
| To allocate it to Volunteer Fire departments as well. | 00:08:53 | |
| There is. | 00:08:57 | |
| There is a formula. | 00:08:59 | |
| And it's based on service area and population, but you, the County Council, gets to determine how to weight those. | 00:09:00 | |
| So if you want to wait it more on population or more on service area that's. | 00:09:07 | |
| You're going to have the authority to do that, so you're going to have a lot of of decisions to make. And again, Baker Tilly's | 00:09:12 | |
| here to help you run scenarios on what that different weighting looks like. | 00:09:18 | |
| And that all goes back to this municipal unit strategic. | 00:09:24 | |
| Task force and why that's going to be important. And again I'll I will get them. | 00:09:28 | |
| Hit on that in a minute. | 00:09:31 | |
| So if we go, Oh yeah, sure. | 00:09:33 | |
| So. | 00:09:35 | |
| There's going to be 1 lit rate. | 00:09:37 | |
| But. | 00:09:39 | |
| There's but the fire and EMS LIT will stay in place. | 00:09:40 | |
| So. | 00:09:44 | |
| That brings me to my next slide. If you go yes, that. | 00:09:45 | |
| We'll go right to the next slide. So here's. | 00:09:48 | |
| What this new structure looks like? | 00:09:50 | |
| So there will be a county services rate. | 00:09:53 | |
| 1.2%. | 00:09:57 | |
| That all goes to the county unit. | 00:09:58 | |
| Just the county unit. | 00:10:00 | |
| And you're you can levy a rate up to 1.2%. You may not need all of that. | 00:10:02 | |
| That's all for you to use just the county unit. | 00:10:08 | |
| There will be a fire EMS rate, so the public safety lit that you know today that expires. | 00:10:12 | |
| Yeah, that will expire, but there's this new fire EMS rate that you can adopt. | 00:10:19 | |
| And a portion of it can go to the county. | 00:10:24 | |
| For EMS and then you have to distribute it to the fire districts, territories and municipal fire departments. Beyond that, you do | 00:10:28 | |
| have the option of distributing it to Volunteer Fire Department. | 00:10:32 | |
| Just note that. | 00:10:38 | |
| Really, all the local income taxes you have today are going to expire unless you have a special purpose local income tax. That's | 00:10:40 | |
| the only one that does not expire at the end of 2028. | 00:10:45 | |
| So this truly is a whole brand new structure. | 00:10:51 | |
| OK, now we have non municipal local income tax again. You the County Council have to decide if number one you want to adopt this | 00:10:55 | |
| non municipal. | 00:11:00 | |
| And then #2 how? What rate do you want? So how this works is the total non municipal rate cannot exceed .2%. | 00:11:06 | |
| But truly it can't exceed .05% for each unit type. So when I say non municipal I'm talking about. | 00:11:14 | |
| Townships and libraries primarily. | 00:11:22 | |
| So what it comes down to is you can adopt A maximum rate of .05% for the townships. | 00:11:24 | |
| A .05% for the libraries. | 00:11:30 | |
| That's over the entire AGI of the county, and then it gets allocated based on their populations. | 00:11:33 | |
| So it's not multiple rates, it's. | 00:11:38 | |
| I have a library rate of .05%. | 00:11:41 | |
| A Township rate of .05% and then it gets allocated based on population. | 00:11:43 | |
| And as. | 00:11:48 | |
| You know, today in this current structure, it's allocated based on levy. | 00:11:49 | |
| Much different formula. | 00:11:54 | |
| So that's where we may see some big swings either way. | 00:11:56 | |
| Of of revenue allocation. | 00:12:01 | |
| But that's why we really need this. | 00:12:03 | |
| Collaboration and having the townships and libraries in the room to understand these things. | 00:12:05 | |
| And you all will need to understand it because ultimately you will be making those decisions. | 00:12:12 | |
| Municipal services, county wide rate I I did hit on that, but I want to talk about that again so. | 00:12:18 | |
| So these larger municipalities are going to be able to opt into the county wide rate. | 00:12:25 | |
| If they do that, then the smaller units are going to get a little bit diluted, right, because now we have these other entities | 00:12:31 | |
| coming in. But again, you do get a portion of that. | 00:12:36 | |
| Part of the formula is the county gets a portion of that. | 00:12:41 | |
| But when the larger municipalities opt in, you're. | 00:12:45 | |
| Portion gets diluted as well. So again we would need to run scenarios to see how all that will affect the county unit and the | 00:12:48 | |
| municipalities. | 00:12:53 | |
| I think a lot of municipalities like the idea that they will benefit from opting in because they would get more local income tax | 00:12:57 | |
| revenue, but what they don't like. | 00:13:02 | |
| Is the loss of control. | 00:13:06 | |
| Because. | 00:13:09 | |
| They're going to have to. | 00:13:10 | |
| You know, so the cost benefit of of what they want to do there. | 00:13:11 | |
| And then again. | 00:13:16 | |
| As I stated before, the larger municipalities can adopt their own. | 00:13:18 | |
| But the rate is only on their AGI. | 00:13:23 | |
| And would not count. | 00:13:27 | |
| You know, they would not be able to charge other taxpayers outside of their municipality. | 00:13:29 | |
| So the next slide is just an illustration at this point. I just did a very quick calculation of. | 00:13:36 | |
| What it looks like today for just the county unit, so just you all your portion of what is generated. | 00:13:43 | |
| So right now the county unit, this is not county wide, the county unit gets. | 00:13:50 | |
| Certified shares at 6.4 million. | 00:13:55 | |
| Public Public safety 6.6 million. Lit Economic development about 4.1 million. | 00:13:58 | |
| Lit correctional 6.1 million and lit judicial 1.2 so. | 00:14:06 | |
| The county unit gets about 24.4 million. | 00:14:10 | |
| For all of these various items here. | 00:14:14 | |
| Your rate right now is 1.89%. | 00:14:17 | |
| That is your county wide rate. | 00:14:21 | |
| So if we move under this new let structure and again I'm just looking at county services lit. | 00:14:23 | |
| It would take a rate of about .85% to get you about what you have now. | 00:14:31 | |
| So that would be. | 00:14:38 | |
| That would actually give you a little bit more honestly about $1,000,000 more, $25.8 million at. | 00:14:39 | |
| .85% That's why I'm saying you may not want to go. | 00:14:46 | |
| To the full 1.2 you can at some time in the future, it's not like you're locked in. | 00:14:49 | |
| So that's what that looks like for you. We can run, you know, all the other units and, and, and what fire and EMS looks like. But | 00:14:55 | |
| I just wanted you to just to get have some idea of what this looks like for the county unit. | 00:15:02 | |
| Also with. | 00:15:13 | |
| Slide also with this new legislation, we now have protection for for debt that is. | 00:15:15 | |
| That is, has. | 00:15:24 | |
| That is supported by local income tax, and you do have that here in this county. You've got 2 bonds. | 00:15:25 | |
| A recovery zone economic development bond and a park district bond. | 00:15:31 | |
| That is. | 00:15:36 | |
| Supported or has local income tax obligated to it? | 00:15:38 | |
| So I'm glad that this coverage is now in the statute because last year we didn't have any protection. | 00:15:43 | |
| But now you all will have to make sure that you adopt A local income tax rate that's at least sufficient to have 1.25 times | 00:15:51 | |
| coverage on your debt. | 00:15:56 | |
| So that was a move in the right direction. | 00:16:01 | |
| OK, now I want to. | 00:16:07 | |
| Take a little bit of time to talk about this Municipal unit Strategic task Force. | 00:16:08 | |
| So this is an optional task force. You do not need to convene this task force, but I want to. | 00:16:14 | |
| Tell you about the benefits of having such task force. | 00:16:22 | |
| So 1 is that. | 00:16:27 | |
| It really opens up the lines of communication with with the units within this county. That's one. | 00:16:29 | |
| 2 is that. | 00:16:36 | |
| At the end of this. | 00:16:37 | |
| We are going to provide a report or the county would provide a report to the Department of Local Government Finance, which would | 00:16:39 | |
| then go on to the Legislative Council. | 00:16:43 | |
| I think this report is going to be very important to the Legislature so that they understand what does work. | 00:16:49 | |
| What doesn't work? What needs to be changed? | 00:16:55 | |
| Et cetera. And they they. | 00:16:58 | |
| My understanding is that they're going to use these reports as they go into the 2027 legislative session. | 00:17:00 | |
| So let me tell you a little bit about this task force. | 00:17:08 | |
| The task force committee is made-up of 1. | 00:17:11 | |
| County Council member. | 00:17:14 | |
| And the fiscal officer of each municipality. So I think you just have 3 municipalities in in this county. | 00:17:16 | |
| New Albany, Georgetown. And is it Greenville? I think yeah. | 00:17:24 | |
| So small task force. | 00:17:28 | |
| But what we're encouraging is that if you do convene this task force and you have those meetings, invite other taxing units to | 00:17:31 | |
| come. | 00:17:35 | |
| To be in the room and be a part of this discussion, it's unfortunate. | 00:17:40 | |
| That townships weren't. | 00:17:44 | |
| Part of this task force or libraries weren't made a part of this task force or schools or any other unit really, the fire | 00:17:46 | |
| districts, territories. | 00:17:50 | |
| Because they really. | 00:17:55 | |
| They need to convey to you their needs. | 00:17:57 | |
| So that you can determine what rates to adopt for the non municipals. | 00:18:00 | |
| What rate to adopt for the fire and EMS? | 00:18:06 | |
| So basically how this is supposed to be structured is that you convene this task force. | 00:18:09 | |
| And you, it's like a formal collaborative effort. You determine what are the priorities of each of the taxing units, in particular | 00:18:16 | |
| the municipalities and the counties. But. | 00:18:21 | |
| Also the other units as well. | 00:18:26 | |
| And how are you going to structure those rates? | 00:18:29 | |
| This is non binding. | 00:18:33 | |
| By the way. | 00:18:34 | |
| If you come up with a plan at the end, it is non binding. You don't have to stick to that plan, but. | 00:18:35 | |
| What the Legislature is looking for is a plan like we're going to adopt X-ray for county services, we're going to adopt X-ray for | 00:18:40 | |
| fire, EMS. | 00:18:44 | |
| X-ray for. | 00:18:49 | |
| The non municipal units, they want that in a detailed plan. | 00:18:51 | |
| And they really want it to be a unanimous approval of the plan. | 00:18:56 | |
| But what I'm telling counties is that even if you can't get to this unanimous approval. | 00:19:01 | |
| Submit the plan anyway. | 00:19:07 | |
| Because that's what the Legislature needs to hear. Like we just couldn't come to an agreement because of this. This just wouldn't | 00:19:09 | |
| work. | 00:19:13 | |
| So we see a lot of benefits to this task force and, and what I just mentioned, the collaboration #1 and #2 providing that | 00:19:17 | |
| information to the Legislature. | 00:19:24 | |
| So we have a limited amount of time because the the report if you do decide to go through with the strateg. | 00:19:30 | |
| Task Force. The report is due to DLGF. | 00:19:38 | |
| By December 1st, and that seems like a long time away, but. | 00:19:41 | |
| We're already working with the counties right now and we kind of put that out in a timeline. | 00:19:45 | |
| And for us to have all of these meetings and get everybody on the same page, it's probably going to take. | 00:19:50 | |
| That long until December to do this so. | 00:19:55 | |
| Just wanted to let you know about this. We do have. | 00:19:59 | |
| A suite of services that we offer, we can facilitate every meeting. | 00:20:03 | |
| We know what questions to ask to get the conversations going. We can prepare the report for you. | 00:20:07 | |
| The counties were working for right now. They're going to split the cost with the municipalities. You don't have to, but I think. | 00:20:14 | |
| If the municipalities want to have. | 00:20:20 | |
| Like a voice in this, they should be willing to pay for a portion of. | 00:20:22 | |
| But how much is? How much is it? I can send it to you, I've got a menu of the. | 00:20:26 | |
| Because honestly, I don't know how much it's going to cost. We're going to do time and expense and I'm going to show you like a | 00:20:31 | |
| not to exceed amount. So it really depends on how long the meetings last. | 00:20:35 | |
| Umm, how many meetings you need to have? | 00:20:40 | |
| Elkhart County's already done this, and they've already completed their. | 00:20:43 | |
| So I think they only needed like 2 meetings. | 00:20:46 | |
| Which is crazy, isn't it? But but like, that's what it depends on. We're not going to charge you for anything that. | 00:20:48 | |
| You know, we are not. You know, I'm not gonna charge you for five meetings if it only takes a couple meetings. So that's why it's | 00:20:54 | |
| kind of hard to price, but I will send you a scope. | 00:20:58 | |
| And you all can just look at it and see what you need. | 00:21:02 | |
| With that. | 00:21:05 | |
| But yeah, we've, we've engaged a few counties now and and they're moving right along with their meetings, so. | 00:21:06 | |
| I again, I think it's a good thing. At first when I saw that it was optional, I was like, I don't know if people really want to | 00:21:15 | |
| waste time with this, but I see the value in it. I really do. | 00:21:19 | |
| So we can send you our scope of service and it outlines exactly all the phases that we could do, but we could help you facilitate | 00:21:24 | |
| from start to finish. | 00:21:28 | |
| With this task force. | 00:21:33 | |
| So. | 00:21:35 | |
| Next, next slide please is has to do with tax income. Well, do any, does anybody have any questions about the mask before I move | 00:21:37 | |
| on because that was a big thing? | 00:21:41 | |
| No, I know I had questions about it when I first got the e-mail, but I. | 00:21:46 | |
| Looked into it a little bit, so OK. | 00:21:50 | |
| All right, so another item that came up in the legislative session, what has to do with tax increment financing? | 00:21:53 | |
| So redevelopment commissions are required to notify. | 00:22:00 | |
| Or on an annual basis, notify the county. | 00:22:06 | |
| If they're going to pass through any net assessed value, well now there's a penalty if they fail to provide notice. | 00:22:09 | |
| Then the county auditor can reallocate 5% of the assessed value. | 00:22:17 | |
| In an allocation area to the overlapping taxing units. | 00:22:22 | |
| So that could benefit. | 00:22:26 | |
| I don't know if that's a good or bad thing here, but. | 00:22:29 | |
| It could benefit. | 00:22:35 | |
| So. | 00:22:39 | |
| The only way that that wouldn't happen, this is only for the county because we only have a few tips. Yeah, we're not talking about | 00:22:41 | |
| New Albany. | 00:22:44 | |
| Right. It just well, if New Albany doesn't have any tests, then it would just. | 00:22:47 | |
| It's then it applies to all. Yeah. Yes, it's every steps. Yes, it's everyone. Yeah. Yeah, it's Georgetown. | 00:22:52 | |
| All of their tips processed through my office and report to my office. Yeah. Oh wow. | 00:23:02 | |
| I mean, the reason for this like penalty is because people were failing to notify. | 00:23:08 | |
| It's important that they notify if they have any. | 00:23:13 | |
| Excess net assessed value that they can pass through. | 00:23:16 | |
| So. | 00:23:20 | |
| This it it it. | 00:23:21 | |
| Could serve to benefit. | 00:23:23 | |
| Or at least make people do what they need to do. | 00:23:25 | |
| No, they still won't. | 00:23:32 | |
| So. | 00:23:34 | |
| So the next item I want to talk to you is about Township mergers because. | 00:23:38 | |
| There is a component where at least the county commissioners will. | 00:23:43 | |
| Be somewhat involved with this, but I at least want you to be aware of it. | 00:23:46 | |
| So. | 00:23:51 | |
| For many, many years, the Legislature has. | 00:23:53 | |
| Attempted to put something in the statute to reorganize or dissolve townships. Well now we do have something that requires | 00:23:56 | |
| Township mergers and this really is directed towards townships that are low performing. | 00:24:03 | |
| Or have little to no activity. | 00:24:10 | |
| So what this is going to require is it's like a grading system, like a point system. So townships that are assigned at least four | 00:24:14 | |
| points are are designated townships, meaning. | 00:24:20 | |
| They either have to merge with another Township. | 00:24:27 | |
| Or they have to reorganize. | 00:24:30 | |
| With a municipality. | 00:24:32 | |
| If 80% of their boundaries overlap that municipality. | 00:24:35 | |
| Or at least 51% of the population live in that municipality. | 00:24:39 | |
| But again, it's directed to low performing or townships that are just not providing much service. | 00:24:44 | |
| This will be effective January 2029. The DLGF at the end of this year will release the official grades if you will. | 00:24:51 | |
| But if you go to the next slide, this is the point system. I know there's a lot going on here, so I'm not going to hit every | 00:25:01 | |
| single one, but how this is working? | 00:25:05 | |
| Just to give you an idea as if. | 00:25:10 | |
| Let's say, for instance, the Township. | 00:25:12 | |
| Has a certified budget that's less than 100,000. That means they're not providing much service Let's say that they. | 00:25:15 | |
| Are not managing fire and EMS, they're just contracting with another. | 00:25:21 | |
| Another entity. | 00:25:26 | |
| If they are not uploading their annual reports like they're required to or their monthly reports so they just aren't performing. | 00:25:30 | |
| Not providing service so again. | 00:25:38 | |
| If there are side points, that's a bad thing. So if you get 4 at least 4 points. | 00:25:40 | |
| You're going to be required to again either merge with another Township. | 00:25:45 | |
| Or merge with a municipality. | 00:25:50 | |
| So. | 00:25:52 | |
| The grading system is going to come out or the grades are going to come out in December. | 00:25:53 | |
| And the townships will know. | 00:25:58 | |
| So is the state grading these? | 00:26:00 | |
| Yes, the Department of Local Government Finance will be doing the grading. We we have the ability to grade to a certain extent. | 00:26:02 | |
| However, there are some information that's not public record. | 00:26:08 | |
| So the DLGF will make those grades but. | 00:26:13 | |
| If town if a Township disagrees with the DLGS grades, they can petition and ask them to take another look. | 00:26:16 | |
| But yes, it will be the DLGF. They'll be using State Board of accounts data and other data. | 00:26:25 | |
| When they get to 4, will they stop or will they keep rubbing it in and get to? When they get to 4, they'll stop because that's all | 00:26:30 | |
| that's required. | 00:26:33 | |
| So where the county comes into play? | 00:26:40 | |
| Right. Is that umm. | 00:26:43 | |
| On by August 1st of 2027. | 00:26:46 | |
| The county commissioners will have to hold a public meeting of all Township trustees to just discuss the merger, and I imagine the | 00:26:50 | |
| meeting will just be talking about who will need to merge and who they're going to merge with. | 00:26:56 | |
| And then by October 1st, the county commissioners will adopt A resolution that actually names the townships that will merge. | 00:27:04 | |
| And so by February 28th, all that information, February 28th of 28, all that information will be sent to the DLGF and this will be | 00:27:13 | |
| effective January 1 of 2029. | 00:27:18 | |
| Quick question. | 00:27:24 | |
| Can it only be two townships that merge, or can more? It could potentially be more so. | 00:27:26 | |
| The townships that are graded less than 4 can be a recipient Township. | 00:27:32 | |
| So depending on the circumstance, there could be two of those non performing townships. | 00:27:39 | |
| Go in with A1 recipient. | 00:27:45 | |
| If they have money. | 00:27:48 | |
| In a bank account does it? | 00:27:49 | |
| It goes to the recipient, either municipality or Township. | 00:27:51 | |
| Now I do know in some counties townships are. | 00:27:56 | |
| Getting are starting to be proactive and they're trying to merge. | 00:28:00 | |
| With who they want to merge with because they know what's coming down the road. | 00:28:06 | |
| I don't know what the tops are here in this county because I don't work with any townships here in this county, but. | 00:28:10 | |
| They can either take a proactive approach or they're going to merge whether they like it or not for the. | 00:28:16 | |
| I appreciate the. | 00:28:21 | |
| The number the 1st. | 00:28:23 | |
| Point. | 00:28:25 | |
| On the point scale is they're going back to 23 and 24, so. | 00:28:26 | |
| Townships can't go recruit. | 00:28:30 | |
| People in 26 for assistance and. | 00:28:33 | |
| Yeah, that was a. | 00:28:35 | |
| That was a smart move there, but yeah. | 00:28:37 | |
| OK. | 00:28:40 | |
| OK. | 00:28:41 | |
| Next slide just has to do with housing matters. I'm not an expert in this, but just to let you know that there there is some new | 00:28:43 | |
| legislation that grants local ordinances on. | 00:28:48 | |
| Density, setbacks and parking. | 00:28:53 | |
| It limits communities abilities to adopt and raise housing development fees. | 00:28:55 | |
| The residential and housing tip areas will not no longer revert to formal, I'm sorry, former rules in 27/20/27 that would have | 00:29:01 | |
| required a return to the 1% test. | 00:29:06 | |
| It changes the lifespan of residential housing tip areas. | 00:29:14 | |
| And allows property tax abatements to enable higher density and mixed income communities. | 00:29:18 | |
| The only thing I would say about the whole housing thing, because part of that statute has to do with. | 00:29:23 | |
| With fees that are generated from building and construction, like your building permit fees, this is a pretty big change when it | 00:29:29 | |
| comes to budgeting because now starting in 2027, all building and construction fees. | 00:29:36 | |
| Are gonna need to be receded into a separate fund. | 00:29:43 | |
| And then you're building type of like planning and zoning will need to be paid from that fund. | 00:29:47 | |
| That's a pretty big change, and that came out of this Housing matters. | 00:29:53 | |
| And we will be helping the. | 00:29:57 | |
| Determine all of that. We'll look at your general fund, see what needs to be moved. | 00:29:59 | |
| But. | 00:30:04 | |
| You know, and I, I think. | 00:30:05 | |
| I don't think that this happens in many counties, but I guess in some counties maybe. | 00:30:06 | |
| Building permit fees are um. | 00:30:11 | |
| Kind of. | 00:30:13 | |
| Compensating for other. | 00:30:15 | |
| Items. Maybe it's getting used for other things other than building. | 00:30:17 | |
| Stuff. So I think that's why they created the stack. | 00:30:22 | |
| Other legislation you should be aware of. Oh, here's a good one. This is what I call the Baker Tilly legislation. | 00:30:27 | |
| For some reason we were targeted. | 00:30:33 | |
| You now have to upload municipal advisor contracts. | 00:30:36 | |
| And that is effective now. | 00:30:41 | |
| So if you have any Baker Tilly contracts, those need to be uploaded. | 00:30:43 | |
| OK, Yeah. | 00:30:47 | |
| Yeah, anyway, Anyway, yes. | 00:30:52 | |
| It's not just for Baker Tilly, but. | 00:30:55 | |
| We were definitely targeted there. | 00:30:58 | |
| For whatever reason. | 00:31:00 | |
| Well, I know the reason but. | 00:31:01 | |
| Don't talk in riddles because we were out there talking about the effects of Senate and World Act One and there were people that | 00:31:05 | |
| didn't. | 00:31:08 | |
| Care for that? | 00:31:12 | |
| Library budgets. | 00:31:15 | |
| So this is something you also need to be aware of SO. | 00:31:17 | |
| You have. | 00:31:21 | |
| Units that come to you providing review and those are the fire districts. | 00:31:23 | |
| It is possible. I don't know how many libraries you have. Do you just have one county wide library? | 00:31:26 | |
| It's possible that the library could come to you for a binding review because now. | 00:31:32 | |
| Their budget increase is very restrictive. | 00:31:37 | |
| If they increase their bio. | 00:31:41 | |
| Budget by more than half. | 00:31:43 | |
| Of that maximum levy growth quotient. | 00:31:45 | |
| They have to come to you for a binding review, so let me translate that. | 00:31:47 | |
| In 2027, we think that the the levy growth will be about 5.6%. | 00:31:51 | |
| That means the library can't increase its budget by more than 2.8% without having to come to you. | 00:31:57 | |
| For a binding review. | 00:32:03 | |
| So just for awareness, I'm letting you know that. | 00:32:05 | |
| I don't know what we don't work with the library but. | 00:32:08 | |
| If they're saying hey, we need a binding review, that's why. | 00:32:11 | |
| Because. | 00:32:15 | |
| They have an unelected board. | 00:32:17 | |
| And this is what the statute. | 00:32:19 | |
| The constraints that the statute has put on to them. | 00:32:21 | |
| Next slide. | 00:32:26 | |
| Fire Protection districts. So you. | 00:32:27 | |
| You probably heard last year fire territories were capped at a $0.40 rate. | 00:32:30 | |
| That has now been extended to fire districts now. | 00:32:35 | |
| Current fire districts are grandfathered in. | 00:32:38 | |
| But if? | 00:32:41 | |
| Any current fire districts try to expand, they will be capped at that $0.40 rate. | 00:32:42 | |
| I I feel like it's an. | 00:32:49 | |
| An arbitrary rate. I don't know where they came. | 00:32:51 | |
| Up with that. | 00:32:53 | |
| Umm, but. | 00:32:55 | |
| You know, I just don't think this is going to be sustainable in the long term. So we'll see if that ever changes, but right now | 00:32:56 | |
| they're capped at $0.40. Not only that. | 00:33:00 | |
| Equipment replacement funds and cumulative fire funds that both territories and districts have. | 00:33:06 | |
| That used to be outside the maximum levy limitations are now within. | 00:33:12 | |
| Their loving limitations so that even they've been restricted even more. | 00:33:16 | |
| Data centers, that's a popular topic all over the state of Indiana, but. | 00:33:21 | |
| There's a piece of legislation that allows a unit that approves A qualified data center. | 00:33:27 | |
| To receive revenue equal to 1%. | 00:33:32 | |
| Of the data centers electricity bill sales tactics, sales tax exemption. So basically in other words. | 00:33:35 | |
| You get kind of a revenue stream coming in there from a data center if you approve that. | 00:33:41 | |
| Next slide, OK, maximum levy growth portion, I did touch on this, so. | 00:33:50 | |
| For 20. | 00:33:54 | |
| 4-5 and six. | 00:33:56 | |
| The maximum levy growth was limited to 4%. | 00:33:59 | |
| By the legislature for those three years. | 00:34:03 | |
| Good news is that that. | 00:34:06 | |
| Restriction has been lifted for 2027 and beyond unless they change the legislation again. | 00:34:08 | |
| So preliminary. | 00:34:14 | |
| Estimates show that that Levy growth could be 5.6%. That's higher than we've seen in many years. | 00:34:17 | |
| So that actual number should come out in June. | 00:34:24 | |
| But right now we're just going to go with the estimate of 5.6%. | 00:34:28 | |
| And just as a reminder, that's based on a six year average of income basically. | 00:34:32 | |
| So it is income driven. | 00:34:37 | |
| Here's something as a council you should be aware of. | 00:34:41 | |
| My understanding is the State Board of accounts is going to require you to pass a resolution on these two items I'm getting ready | 00:34:44 | |
| to talk about. So item number 1 is. | 00:34:48 | |
| And this was effective July 1st, 2025. | 00:34:53 | |
| Financial institutions tax, also known as FIT. | 00:34:57 | |
| And commercial vehicle excise tax known as CVAT. | 00:35:01 | |
| Those taxes are deposited in funds that you have that are supported with property tax, or that's how it was in the past. | 00:35:05 | |
| Now. | 00:35:13 | |
| You, as a council, can decide to put those taxes in any fund that you wish. | 00:35:15 | |
| The electoral legislation. | 00:35:19 | |
| Have the commissioners dictating. | 00:35:21 | |
| Where? Oh, it's alright, OK. | 00:35:23 | |
| Until it's actually for sure you can take this event, then go. | 00:35:25 | |
| OK. They did have to take that vote last year. | 00:35:29 | |
| And they've already made them, yes, OK, just just for the council's purview, and I apologize. No, that's OK. Steven is going to | 00:35:32 | |
| MBH because it's commercial vehicle excise tax benefit, which is kind of just designated to the general fund. | 00:35:39 | |
| OK, perfect. So now with the vehicle excise. | 00:35:48 | |
| Is that going to be the same way? Is that going to go to? | 00:35:52 | |
| Multiple funds. So you see that the county portion used to get broken up between multiple different levy funds. It's now just goes | 00:35:55 | |
| directly to LRS or MBH and then. | 00:36:00 | |
| The Fit County portion. | 00:36:06 | |
| But the auto aircraft excise, which is also a part of that settlement. | 00:36:10 | |
| Yeah, that's new. Yeah, right. So that starts. | 00:36:14 | |
| Yeah. No, no, no, gotcha. The next one, Yeah, yeah. | 00:36:18 | |
| So. | 00:36:22 | |
| Starting for 2027 and we could talk about this during budget time. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. | 00:36:23 | |
| You also have. | 00:36:27 | |
| An auto aircraft. | 00:36:29 | |
| Excise tax. | 00:36:30 | |
| And that's a larger. | 00:36:33 | |
| Revenue stream than those than the CVET and FIT, that's a larger revenue stream. So that we'll need to decide, you know, if that's | 00:36:35 | |
| still going to be divvied up among the funds or just go to general or however you want to do that. So we can work on that during | 00:36:39 | |
| budget season. | 00:36:44 | |
| It it is something that you do have to consider and we can help you with that. | 00:36:51 | |
| So what's coming up? | 00:36:57 | |
| This is a little budget preview. | 00:36:59 | |
| Next slide. | 00:37:02 | |
| So. | 00:37:05 | |
| In 2026. | 00:37:06 | |
| The property tax credits, also known as circuit breaker credit, should be available. | 00:37:08 | |
| And. | 00:37:12 | |
| I They actually should have been available mid-april and we're still looking for them, but I understand that some counties have | 00:37:13 | |
| been released so. | 00:37:17 | |
| Once we get those circuit breaker credits, we will let you know. | 00:37:21 | |
| What it looks like as far as what we estimated. | 00:37:25 | |
| For the 2026 budget. | 00:37:28 | |
| And what they are. | 00:37:30 | |
| Actually, because we might have to make some course corrections, I hope not. I think we tend to be conservative. So we're | 00:37:31 | |
| probably, we probably have a higher estimate than what will actually occur. But we need to let you know that and we will as soon | 00:37:36 | |
| as we get those numbers. | 00:37:40 | |
| We are preliminary estimates. | 00:37:46 | |
| Was a $716,000 increase for all property tax supported funds. So another words in 2025, the property tax credits. | 00:37:49 | |
| OR 530,000. So that was a reduction of your property tax revenue? | 00:38:00 | |
| Our preliminary estimates as I stand here right now is about 1.245 million, but we had incorporated that into your budget. | 00:38:04 | |
| So everything should be OK now if it comes in at higher than 1.2, that's where we may need to make some adjustments. | 00:38:14 | |
| Supplemental local income tax distributions, those are available now. Unfortunately Floyd County is not getting any supplemental | 00:38:22 | |
| local income tax. We we did check that and you're they're just scheduled to start qualifying again until next year, OK, OK. We had | 00:38:29 | |
| a period of time that we had to make up for an overdistriction that will now make withheld from us for three to four years. And I | 00:38:36 | |
| think that next year for sure even a lot of qualifying, OK. | 00:38:42 | |
| And and hopefully you get some. | 00:38:49 | |
| That will end up going away in 2029. | 00:38:53 | |
| We talked about the property tax levy growth factor that is. That is some good news. There is a new budget application in Gateway | 00:38:59 | |
| Budget 2.0. We will assist the county with that. It seems pretty straightforward. It's actually a better system, I think. | 00:39:07 | |
| Yeah, it carries more through it, it does. So I think that'll be a good thing. | 00:39:15 | |
| And then the 2027 local income tax, which has been going up, we've been experiencing growth. Those numbers will come out. | 00:39:20 | |
| At least the preliminary estimates in August, so we will keep an eye out for that as well. | 00:39:29 | |
| And the final page, if you want to start planning for budgets is. It's showing your estimated receipts in column B for each of | 00:39:35 | |
| your fonts. | 00:39:40 | |
| The disbursements we just kind of put in an arbitrary growth factor of 3%. So I wouldn't focus on that so much. | 00:39:46 | |
| But column. | 00:39:52 | |
| As the estimated receipt, so for like. | 00:39:53 | |
| The county general under just real quick. | 00:39:56 | |
| Perusing those numbers because keep in mind the numbers that were provided to Baker Tilly were prior to the most recent joint | 00:39:59 | |
| meeting where an additional some creation occurred in the public safety list. | 00:40:05 | |
| Not bank on that beginning fund balance and column A for the public safety list, you can thank you. | 00:40:10 | |
| Yeah, we'll get those updated numbers too. Yeah, that's a good point. And that's really why I just want to. | 00:40:16 | |
| Want you to focus on column B on this report. | 00:40:21 | |
| I didn't want them to be around, you know? I know, I know. | 00:40:24 | |
| Column B How much it was adjusted by, you know. | 00:40:27 | |
| 3 million. | 00:40:31 | |
| I can tell you that my estimate for the end of the year for that balance is going to be about $600,000. | 00:40:32 | |
| So I firmly believe we're going to roll into 2027 with a carryover of $600,000. | 00:40:39 | |
| That should be offset somewhere else then. | 00:40:45 | |
| No, it's additional spending that has happened this year as ambulances. | 00:40:50 | |
| At the beginning of EMS and all of those things. | 00:40:54 | |
| So it's it's offset in the fact that there's growth. | 00:40:57 | |
| Direction of those those dollars. | 00:41:01 | |
| No, no, no worries. So column B is, yes, what I would focus on right now. These are preliminary revenue estimates, but if you just | 00:41:08 | |
| want to get a general idea of the revenue that we think will be coming into those funds, this would be for your recurring costs. | 00:41:15 | |
| So. | 00:41:23 | |
| Again, preliminary numbers based on what we know today, these will change as we get additional information. When I come back next | 00:41:24 | |
| month, I'm hoping we're reasonably close, but next month we'll have even more information that we'll be able to. | 00:41:31 | |
| Log into your model. So again, preliminary information. | 00:41:37 | |
| For you to to take a look at. | 00:41:42 | |
| Any that was a lot of information. I went over any questions, but I did want to. | 00:41:47 | |
| Come down, touch base with you, let you know that we're. | 00:41:51 | |
| We've got your financial plan nearly complete. We'll be back next month. | 00:41:55 | |
| Any questions for Paige? | 00:42:00 | |
| The Europe is normally a client of your own. | 00:42:02 | |
| I'm sorry, normally a client y'all. | 00:42:06 | |
| I don't. | 00:42:09 | |
| Think so. I don't work with them make it a lot easier for us. I know I don't I can check, I know we don't do any budgetary things | 00:42:10 | |
| for them, but we might do other things like economic development. I can check and see I just. | 00:42:15 | |
| We try to. | 00:42:22 | |
| Keep separation like since I am assigned to you. | 00:42:23 | |
| I wouldn't work for New Albany. Somebody else in the firm would. That's why I don't know, but I can certainly find out. | 00:42:28 | |
| Yep, normally as a client. | 00:42:34 | |
| Victor Tilly, That's a hole. | 00:42:36 | |
| Yeah, this makes it a lot easier, yes. | 00:42:38 | |
| That's true and. | 00:42:40 | |
| As we're doing these musts, these task forces, there's some counties where all of the units are Baker Tilly clients, so it does | 00:42:42 | |
| help. | 00:42:46 | |
| Because we can get everybody coordinated all in the same room and. | 00:42:51 | |
| It does help and I'll find out if New Albany is. I just I don't know. I know that the fire district is obviously our client. | 00:42:54 | |
| So the Georgetown or fire territory now, I guess. | 00:43:02 | |
| Fire District who is this must something we were going to discuss. | 00:43:06 | |
| Now or. | 00:43:11 | |
| Yes, for lack of a better term, yes, so that you can have a better idea. It might be something to put on the joint agenda for | 00:43:17 | |
| Friday. | 00:43:21 | |
| I'm I'm not just making this Oh yes, now and then and that way you have some additional information because that are. | 00:43:25 | |
| And if you need me to join virtually to answer questions or if there's questions that arise and. | 00:43:33 | |
| You'd like to follow up, that's fine as well. | 00:43:38 | |
| Good. Perfect. | 00:43:42 | |
| Anything else? | 00:43:46 | |
| Yes, that will be in our report. I, I don't have a copy of the draft report with me, but we will make sure that that's a part of | 00:43:58 | |
| that. Yeah, for sure. | 00:44:03 | |
| All right. Thank you very much. All right, thank you. Thank you. | 00:44:10 | |
| All right. Is anybody here representing the? | 00:44:19 | |
| Public Defender. | 00:44:22 | |
| Is that you? | 00:44:25 | |
| Go ahead. | 00:44:26 | |
| I know that you got to see the prosecutor. | 00:44:32 | |
| Last month concerning some additional appropriations due to the high cost of some trials. | 00:44:34 | |
| So far this year, this. | 00:44:39 | |
| Follows the same vein, except it is outside of the. It's out of their supplemental fund. | 00:44:41 | |
| Motion to approve 2A. | 00:44:49 | |
| And sabotage. | 00:44:50 | |
| Tag it. We have a motion a second for 2A. Any questions or discussion? | 00:44:51 | |
| All in favor say aye. | 00:44:57 | |
| Any opposed that carries? | 00:44:59 | |
| Mr. Dennison. | 00:45:01 | |
| Good evening. All of this is Grant related. | 00:45:07 | |
| Items. The 1st is a. | 00:45:10 | |
| A new fund that had to be created because the. | 00:45:13 | |
| Land and Water Conservation Fund is federal money, so it has to be in its own. | 00:45:15 | |
| Account our own fund and this is to move money into those lines so. | 00:45:20 | |
| This is all for construction and. | 00:45:25 | |
| Planning for Phase 2? | 00:45:27 | |
| Of the Bob Lane Regional Park, the design is in the early stages and there will be some. | 00:45:30 | |
| Minor construction and things for phase two later this year. | 00:45:35 | |
| Motion to approve 3A as advertised. | 00:45:40 | |
| 2nd. | 00:45:43 | |
| I have a motion and a second. | 00:45:44 | |
| 438. | 00:45:46 | |
| Any questions for my just have comment. Glad you briefly. | 00:45:47 | |
| Explain what professional services is. | 00:45:51 | |
| Oh yeah, yeah, I mean. | 00:45:53 | |
| I'll just stop it again, at least in its supporting dogs. | 00:45:55 | |
| I mean, we get stuff for 125 hundred 30,000. | 00:45:59 | |
| Professional. Sorry, it could be. | 00:46:02 | |
| Maybe somebody washed the car. That's a professional. Yeah, I don't know. | 00:46:04 | |
| They're usually contractually based. | 00:46:07 | |
| OK. | 00:46:10 | |
| Yeah, there were. Professional services fall under a contract. | 00:46:12 | |
| There were some options that Diane and Gloria gave us and so for. | 00:46:16 | |
| We'll take all the design stuff out of professional services and then. | 00:46:20 | |
| But the other construction there that line. | 00:46:23 | |
| How's the? | 00:46:26 | |
| Totally unrelated, how's the path going to community park? | 00:46:28 | |
| The path no at the hillside. | 00:46:31 | |
| It's getting ready to get an RFP out for design. We have your money that you guys were kind enough at the end of last year to give | 00:46:33 | |
| us. | 00:46:37 | |
| It's in one of our non reverting funds and the federal money. | 00:46:41 | |
| To go with that, I'm still waiting to get it. I got an e-mail last week. | 00:46:44 | |
| Of the next step. It's an online ACH process, but no. | 00:46:48 | |
| No beginning to that. Just a heads up that it's coming. So we're watching for that, but we're going to go ahead with the design | 00:46:53 | |
| work. There's been some preliminary. | 00:46:57 | |
| Options. | 00:47:02 | |
| Uh, design work to. | 00:47:03 | |
| Get us to where we're at now, now that we have the. | 00:47:04 | |
| The avenue that we want to take the the style of trail that we think it fits, the budget that we've got totally to work with. | 00:47:07 | |
| We feel comfortable going ahead and having the full design of the trail done. | 00:47:15 | |
| And as long as we get the federal money at some point here in the next month or so, we hope that that is a project that takes | 00:47:19 | |
| place. | 00:47:22 | |
| By the fall of this year is our hope. | 00:47:26 | |
| Good. All right. Any other questions on 3A? | 00:47:28 | |
| All in favor say aye. | 00:47:33 | |
| Aye, any opposed? | 00:47:35 | |
| Carries. | 00:47:36 | |
| Item B. Both of those items are. | 00:47:39 | |
| Grants that. | 00:47:41 | |
| Have been. | 00:47:42 | |
| That came long before my time here. | 00:47:44 | |
| They were under commissioner line items and we're just requesting to move those into. | 00:47:46 | |
| 1178 one of our non reverting funds, the Duke Trail grant, that's leftover money that. | 00:47:51 | |
| We're trying to figure out how to put that to use at the Jensen Trail based on the grant agreement from years ago and then the | 00:47:57 | |
| Caesars Foundation. That's the major gift, 200,000 a year. | 00:48:02 | |
| $1,000,000 in total. We just got our draw. | 00:48:08 | |
| For this year, we have one more year on that and we will be approaching Caesars again to. | 00:48:11 | |
| Talk about continuing to help us with that park as we move forward. So this is just getting stuff in funds that we have full | 00:48:16 | |
| control over and so we can better. | 00:48:21 | |
| Stay on top of them and stay organized. | 00:48:27 | |
| Motion to approve 3B as advertised. | 00:48:32 | |
| Second, have a motion and a second for 3B. | 00:48:35 | |
| Any questions for Matt? | 00:48:38 | |
| Discussion. | 00:48:40 | |
| All in favor say aye aye. | 00:48:41 | |
| Any opposed? | 00:48:43 | |
| Carries is there is that is CA carryover from last time or is that? | 00:48:45 | |
| New this time. | 00:48:50 | |
| We've had so many different grant proposals. I'm not. | 00:48:52 | |
| It doesn't. | 00:48:56 | |
| Please maybe this one is. | 00:48:58 | |
| They went to convention but hadn't get counsel yet. Yes. | 00:49:02 | |
| It's just permission to finish. | 00:49:06 | |
| It's a clean up. | 00:49:07 | |
| Really, I believe this grant has already written. Is it the? Is it the legacy? | 00:49:08 | |
| I believe so, yeah. So just. | 00:49:12 | |
| Following procedure. | 00:49:16 | |
| Yeah. So somehow. | 00:49:18 | |
| We came a few meetings ago with like 3 or 4 grant proposals and I'm scared when I give him to Gloria I gave only three instead of | 00:49:19 | |
| four. | 00:49:23 | |
| We went ahead and applied for the Legacy Foundation. | 00:49:27 | |
| It's I think a $200,000 request. They were kind enough to help us last year with kind of kick starting some work at Stampede | 00:49:30 | |
| Community Park at Shelter 4, which is underway now. | 00:49:35 | |
| The hope is with this grant that we could pair this with the money from the tourism Bureau. | 00:49:40 | |
| For a small amphitheater facility. So the money we have from tourism is a nice start. | 00:49:45 | |
| We need some more money to make sure that it's done correctly, that it has a parking lot, that it probably has its own restroom | 00:49:51 | |
| facilities. | 00:49:54 | |
| We have big plans there when it comes to entertainment, music and so forth, and this would be the next step in helping. | 00:49:58 | |
| Make those reality so. | 00:50:05 | |
| I'm sorry for the oversight, it just didn't get that on the agenda. | 00:50:07 | |
| But it's been applied for. | 00:50:11 | |
| Make motion. We accept 4C. | 00:50:12 | |
| I will say. | 00:50:14 | |
| Second process is actually how we caught that this didn't make it through 2nd. | 00:50:17 | |
| Yeah, it works OK. | 00:50:23 | |
| We have a motion and a second for 3C. | 00:50:25 | |
| Any further discussion? Sorry, I had to be the one that. | 00:50:27 | |
| Make sure your ordinance works. | 00:50:30 | |
| No, you're not. Yeah, you're not. | 00:50:33 | |
| All in favor of three C say aye. | 00:50:37 | |
| Aye, any opposed? | 00:50:39 | |
| That carries. Thank you all. | 00:50:41 | |
| Mr. Staying high. | 00:50:43 | |
| You are up. | 00:50:46 | |
| Good evening. | 00:50:50 | |
| Mr. Tran, Welcome back, Sir. It's good to see you. | 00:50:52 | |
| Thank you. It's good to be keeping you in our prayers for serving. Thank you. | 00:50:54 | |
| #4A, this is it's a basically it's a pass through house unit. | 00:50:58 | |
| To hold traffic study monies that are being paid by developer for the Highway 150 break. | 00:51:04 | |
| That we're going to turn right around right to check out to Strand. | 00:51:10 | |
| To do the highway study. | 00:51:14 | |
| At 1:50 so. | 00:51:16 | |
| I would just ask them to create a pathway so that we create a solid audit trail for the. | 00:51:18 | |
| We've got the money and it's already been received in 9112. | 00:51:23 | |
| Just asking to set up a an expense allocation line. | 00:51:26 | |
| With this request here and to allow us to pay. | 00:51:30 | |
| Strand Invoice. | 00:51:33 | |
| Make a motion to accept for a. | 00:51:36 | |
| Flag it. | 00:51:38 | |
| We have a motion and a second for 4A. Any questions for Stan? | 00:51:39 | |
| I can tell him it's a mess. | 00:51:43 | |
| I'm sorry Sir, I can tell him 150 is a mess. | 00:51:45 | |
| Whether there was that accident today, a semi ran right up off Napleton Rd. I think it was and. | 00:51:49 | |
| Yeah, it's. | 00:51:54 | |
| It's always a mess. | 00:51:55 | |
| All right, all in favor of 4A say aye. | 00:51:58 | |
| Aye, any opposed that carries? | 00:52:02 | |
| 4B This is a grant proposal again, we. | 00:52:04 | |
| Trying to follow all the procedures, all as cross, all T's. This is a Lily grant. | 00:52:08 | |
| It's supported by Ready Money. | 00:52:13 | |
| This is. | 00:52:15 | |
| Going to be used in the. | 00:52:16 | |
| Elimination of the OR it's the blight elimination out the Edwardsville school. | 00:52:19 | |
| The gym remodel is now. | 00:52:23 | |
| Pushing upwards of 400,000 in the remodel so. | 00:52:25 | |
| Applying for a grant to assist in the funding of this entire process. So we're just making the council aware of this particular | 00:52:29 | |
| opportunity that we're trying to take advantage of. | 00:52:34 | |
| Motion to approve 4B. | 00:52:40 | |
| 2nd. | 00:52:44 | |
| Motion in a second, 4B. | 00:52:45 | |
| Any further discussion on the? | 00:52:47 | |
| Proposal. | 00:52:49 | |
| Stan, I'm just curious. | 00:52:50 | |
| We've applied for another grant for this too. | 00:52:52 | |
| Were we denied or Yes? Well, we haven't been denied yet. This was the Aaron Houchins grant. | 00:52:54 | |
| If that goes through, that was actually for the. | 00:53:00 | |
| The other portion of the the facility, the school there. | 00:53:04 | |
| This specifically is targeted in the gym location. | 00:53:07 | |
| Yes, Sir. | 00:53:11 | |
| All right, all in favor of 4B say aye. | 00:53:14 | |
| Aye, any opposed? | 00:53:17 | |
| Thank you. | 00:53:18 | |
| See so. | 00:53:20 | |
| I asked him put this on the council. Thanks Diane, I appreciate it. | 00:53:22 | |
| There's been lots of discussion about gold buying that go bond funding. | 00:53:26 | |
| I I've talked with Gary several times. The there's been a lot of discussion about the. | 00:53:30 | |
| Utilization of. | 00:53:35 | |
| Go bond funds from the council's behalf. | 00:53:37 | |
| On upgrading. | 00:53:40 | |
| The IT equipment that we currently have in place. | 00:53:42 | |
| We have a lot of our. | 00:53:45 | |
| Switches. | 00:53:48 | |
| That are reaching end of life. | 00:53:49 | |
| We have in this particular plan right now, we currently have about four weeks. | 00:53:51 | |
| We're looking at about 3535 switches. | 00:53:55 | |
| 32 of them or two of them are other core switches and then we did the remodel or the upgrade of all the courts and the clerks PCs. | 00:53:59 | |
| Last year thanks to your assistance. | 00:54:08 | |
| But this money is also to buy an additional 132 PCs. | 00:54:11 | |
| So that we can get all of the PCs in the county. | 00:54:15 | |
| Up to. | 00:54:18 | |
| A an upgraded level to perform it. It's at a peak performance moving into the future. | 00:54:19 | |
| And then where our attempt us to. | 00:54:25 | |
| And working with Gary and his team to. | 00:54:27 | |
| Get our PC and our IT equipment on a. | 00:54:29 | |
| Subsequent recycle. | 00:54:32 | |
| Period. | 00:54:34 | |
| We're not exactly sure how that's going to play out, but we had to start with Foundation somewhere. | 00:54:36 | |
| And I think there's been a lot of discussions. | 00:54:40 | |
| About. | 00:54:43 | |
| To go buy monies using it for this IT upgrade program and establishing this foundation. | 00:54:44 | |
| So I'm not really asking for any funding at this point. | 00:54:49 | |
| At this point, but I think. | 00:54:52 | |
| I wanted to kind of bring it to light so that we could have a discussion. | 00:54:54 | |
| About what this plan is starting to unfold. | 00:54:58 | |
| As you know, the longer we put off. | 00:55:02 | |
| A commitment to doing. | 00:55:04 | |
| Uh, in negotiating for. | 00:55:06 | |
| Switches or PCs or any of the IT equipment. | 00:55:09 | |
| Prices are continuing to escalate in that world. | 00:55:12 | |
| Right now, based on just the numbers I shared with you, Trace 3, they're the organization who has. | 00:55:15 | |
| I've been vetted for the switch upgrades. | 00:55:22 | |
| And that's coming in right now at 332,000. | 00:55:26 | |
| A little bit of change. | 00:55:30 | |
| Dell right now has given us an estimated price for 132 PCs and all of the. | 00:55:32 | |
| Links to getting those upgraded at about 220-1000. | 00:55:38 | |
| Now I know we. | 00:55:43 | |
| We have brief discussions about half $1,000,000 from the Gold Bond. | 00:55:44 | |
| This comes in at $554,000. Just adding the numbers. So the reason? | 00:55:49 | |
| Again, part of. | 00:55:55 | |
| Why I think we need to have this discussion? | 00:55:56 | |
| Is. | 00:55:59 | |
| If the Council is committed to. | 00:55:59 | |
| That half, $1,000,000, at least it gives and moving this program forward. | 00:56:02 | |
| It gives us negotiating powers. | 00:56:06 | |
| With these organizations. | 00:56:08 | |
| To say this is a real life situation. | 00:56:10 | |
| We are not just trying to negotiate for the best price to go back and then find funding. | 00:56:12 | |
| We have funding somewhere in place. Our target is 500,000. | 00:56:16 | |
| If if that's still an agreed upon amount. | 00:56:21 | |
| But now if, if the Council is willing to move forward with this process. | 00:56:23 | |
| We have a foundation, a solid foundation to negotiate fraud. | 00:56:30 | |
| And and that's. | 00:56:34 | |
| What I was asking tonight is are we still on board? | 00:56:35 | |
| I'm still being supportive. | 00:56:39 | |
| It's it's my understanding we're just waiting on Gary and you all because we've got the money, we're defending their half | 00:56:41 | |
| $1,000,000. That's what we've allowed I think. | 00:56:45 | |
| That was the. That was the commitment. | 00:56:49 | |
| I mean so. | 00:56:51 | |
| And it's still standing. | 00:56:52 | |
| I mean, we're just waiting on you. | 00:56:53 | |
| Well, thank you. And that's. | 00:56:55 | |
| That's what I wanted to bring tonight. Gary's been working on this. It's. | 00:56:56 | |
| It's very time consuming as you know, piercing together a massive upgrade like this. | 00:56:59 | |
| But, but how many PCs? Did you say it's going to be 132 PCs? How many? | 00:57:04 | |
| Do we have total? | 00:57:09 | |
| They just upgraded 80 with the courts in the clerks last year so. | 00:57:11 | |
| Probably looking at about. | 00:57:15 | |
| Right at the 200 mark, I would think. So This can get everybody. Yes, ma'am. | 00:57:17 | |
| Within two years, everybody will have. | 00:57:21 | |
| 2 year old. | 00:57:24 | |
| Yes. | 00:57:26 | |
| That's correct, yes. | 00:57:28 | |
| So we wouldn't have this expense. | 00:57:30 | |
| The entire time I've been the auditor's office, we've not had we get inherited PCs. | 00:57:33 | |
| So as the courts get upgraded. | 00:57:40 | |
| You kind of inherent what they got rid of. | 00:57:43 | |
| I don't want to get too far into the weeds, but I know the. | 00:57:45 | |
| Like the prosecutor's office, they upgraded some of theirs with their own. So are we. I'm sure he's. | 00:57:48 | |
| Took a survey and he's taking those out. Absolutely. Yes Sir. | 00:57:53 | |
| Absolutely. Make any sense to put get that rolling? | 00:57:57 | |
| Start it at the beginning where you only do. | 00:58:01 | |
| 132 you enjoy a third of them and every three years. | 00:58:04 | |
| I I think that's, that's significant, but. | 00:58:08 | |
| What we have to realize is we have fallen so far behind. | 00:58:11 | |
| That we have to have a solid foundation. | 00:58:14 | |
| And I think absolutely that's a plan moving forward now. | 00:58:17 | |
| We get these in place, we're not taking old PCs, we're trying to. | 00:58:20 | |
| In in the IT team has worked very diligently trying to keep everything. | 00:58:24 | |
| Working. | 00:58:29 | |
| And they're working with. | 00:58:30 | |
| Yeah, I did. | 00:58:31 | |
| And with with. | 00:58:33 | |
| With the outside. | 00:58:34 | |
| Influence. | 00:58:35 | |
| Gaining strength I guess. | 00:58:37 | |
| You know the not so nice I guess. | 00:58:39 | |
| We have to protect. | 00:58:42 | |
| As well and and. | 00:58:43 | |
| So this is just the first step and again creating a solid foundation. | 00:58:45 | |
| And then we'll have future discussions on. | 00:58:50 | |
| Potential rotation moving forward. | 00:58:52 | |
| With a very solid plan to hope. | 00:58:54 | |
| To me this is just like the digitizing program. | 00:58:57 | |
| I mean, we're at a point where something needs to be done or we're going to have. | 00:59:00 | |
| Potential for a failure somewhere in the system and it won't be good. | 00:59:04 | |
| Yes, Sir. Absolutely, George. | 00:59:08 | |
| To this point that I asked the Council for a vote. | 00:59:09 | |
| Still adhering to that half $1,000,000 towards the IT projects that I can officially set it aside. | 00:59:13 | |
| I'll make a motion to. | 00:59:20 | |
| I'll make a motion. | 00:59:23 | |
| Can we make a motion to put it in a separate line item? I'll make that motion to. | 00:59:24 | |
| Get the IT money into. | 00:59:29 | |
| I'd like to put the IT money. I'll make a motion to put the half $1,000,000 into a separate. | 00:59:33 | |
| Line item in the go. | 00:59:38 | |
| 10 there's PR. I'm sorry. That's OK. No, no, you do it. You got it. | 00:59:41 | |
| I was just asking. | 00:59:51 | |
| That it be put in a line item. | 00:59:53 | |
| Go for it so there's no additional. | 00:59:54 | |
| You're halfway down the road. | 00:59:57 | |
| Yeah, specify the amount and I guess the. | 01:00:01 | |
| 500,000 in a separate line. I'll second that motion. | 01:00:06 | |
| OK, we have a motion and a second. I want some. | 01:00:10 | |
| Clarification on. | 01:00:12 | |
| We're creating a new line. | 01:00:15 | |
| I'm going to create a new line. It'll still be under their councils department purviews and we're going to call it. They'll still | 01:00:16 | |
| process directly through me with your knowledge and we're going to call it. | 01:00:21 | |
| It's literally gonna probably be IT. | 01:00:26 | |
| ATI Goban. | 01:00:29 | |
| Copy upgrade. Yeah, OK, I'll make sure you got the information, Diana. That will work very closely. | 01:00:30 | |
| Not to exceed 500. | 01:00:38 | |
| We appreciate it. We appreciate it. | 01:00:40 | |
| Any further discussion on this? No. | 01:00:42 | |
| All in favor say aye. | 01:00:47 | |
| Aye. Any opposed? Thank you very much. I certainly appreciate it. | 01:00:48 | |
| I appreciate it. | 01:00:57 | |
| It just makes it to where they do have the unofficial parking power because it is set aside specifically for them. | 01:00:58 | |
| I am covering for JRAC. | 01:01:04 | |
| And for the Opioid Oversight Committee tonight, so 5A is on behalf of J Rack, It is an award that the J Rack awarded at the end of | 01:01:07 | |
| last year, but it is specific to the 2026 crossing into the 2027 budgetary year for our place. | 01:01:14 | |
| So it's not actually part of the current approved budget for that fund. So we do need the additional appropriation granted to that | 01:01:21 | |
| line so that they can pay out that grant to our place. | 01:01:26 | |
| Move to approve 5A. | 01:01:31 | |
| 2nd. | 01:01:33 | |
| Motion and a second for 5A. Any further discussion? | 01:01:34 | |
| All in favor say aye aye. | 01:01:39 | |
| Any opposed? | 01:01:41 | |
| SO5B is the unrestricted opioid funds, and that would be the opioid Oversight Committee, which consists of myself, the county | 01:01:43 | |
| auditor. | 01:01:47 | |
| Sheriff who's currently Sheriff Bush, a commissioner appointee, which would be Mr. Sharp. | 01:01:51 | |
| And then the current county prosecutor, which is Mr. Lane. | 01:01:57 | |
| As you guys know. | 01:02:01 | |
| Requests are brought forward. | 01:02:03 | |
| They're considered. | 01:02:04 | |
| Approved or denied, brought towards the Commissioners and then the appropriations brought to you. | 01:02:06 | |
| So you're seeing training again and that is because we've approved additional training. | 01:02:10 | |
| For an APD detective later on this year. | 01:02:15 | |
| And for the first time ever, an ISP detective. | 01:02:18 | |
| So the houses in this area are taking advantage. | 01:02:21 | |
| Of these funds that are available for additional training and new tools brought into the county, and I think it's a wonderful | 01:02:25 | |
| thing. | 01:02:28 | |
| The other is drug testing services that's to be used for testing of substances in the course of investigations. | 01:02:31 | |
| Specific to you. | 01:02:37 | |
| Drug investigations. | 01:02:39 | |
| Move to approve 5B. | 01:02:41 | |
| 2nd. | 01:02:43 | |
| We have a motion and a second for 5B. | 01:02:45 | |
| Further questions Who controls those drug testing? | 01:02:47 | |
| If it's for case specific. | 01:02:50 | |
| So right now that process is going through the prosecutor's office. | 01:02:53 | |
| So it is under Floyd County control. | 01:02:59 | |
| All right, all in favor, say aye. | 01:03:05 | |
| Aye, any opposed? | 01:03:07 | |
| That carries. | 01:03:09 | |
| So C is. | 01:03:12 | |
| The request for the additional appropriation that was discussed. | 01:03:14 | |
| At the. | 01:03:18 | |
| Last meeting. | 01:03:21 | |
| That everyone gave a consensus of. | 01:03:22 | |
| To support to begin working on the. | 01:03:24 | |
| Digitizing project. I will say that Susannah Worrell and I have met. | 01:03:27 | |
| With Miss Bailey. | 01:03:31 | |
| Recently and we actually have another teams meeting with her tomorrow. | 01:03:33 | |
| SBS has been. | 01:03:37 | |
| Amazing and they're. | 01:03:39 | |
| I think you guys are going to be really pleased with the results of this project. I'll make a motion to approve 5. | 01:03:43 | |
| 2nd. | 01:03:48 | |
| We have a motion and a second for. | 01:03:50 | |
| 5C. | 01:03:52 | |
| So I, I was under the understanding that we were in a position where we were, we were fully funding for the county. | 01:03:55 | |
| For county general. | 01:04:04 | |
| And it looks like from what page? | 01:04:06 | |
| Just showed us we are going to be 1,000,001 short. So that's for next year. 2027. Yes ma'am. | 01:04:09 | |
| And we actually would have been that this year without the diligent work that the council did to shuffle costs around. | 01:04:17 | |
| I was thinking this was 2020. | 01:04:23 | |
| Six, No, ma'am, that's next year's projection without any, without any movements on your old's behalf and that we're going into | 01:04:26 | |
| the 2027 with $1,000,000. | 01:04:31 | |
| Yes, and I have every confidence that this council will make sure that we're fully funded before we exit budget season this year. | 01:04:39 | |
| OK, so. | 01:04:45 | |
| I guess you we're just putting it in this line. | 01:04:48 | |
| So that. | 01:04:52 | |
| As invoices. | 01:04:53 | |
| Correct. It would be a lot more arduous if we had it split up between 5 different budgets. So you will agree to just place it in | 01:04:54 | |
| one budgetary line since I'm the lead on the project anyways. | 01:05:00 | |
| So it's not like that amounts going out tomorrow morning. | 01:05:06 | |
| No Sir, that goes out as stages are completed. | 01:05:08 | |
| All right, any further discussion? | 01:05:13 | |
| All in favor say aye aye. | 01:05:17 | |
| Any opposed? | 01:05:19 | |
| That carries. | 01:05:21 | |
| You get to scan them. | 01:05:22 | |
| Semi Semi. | 01:05:25 | |
| They're well and sure, OK. | 01:05:26 | |
| 6A Is ordinance for additional appropriations for this evening Ordinance 2020? | 01:05:34 | |
| 26-11. | 01:05:39 | |
| I'll make a motion. Approve 6A. | 01:05:41 | |
| 2nd, I have a motion and a second any discussion on our? | 01:05:42 | |
| Appropriations. | 01:05:46 | |
| All in favor say aye aye. | 01:05:48 | |
| Any opposed? | 01:05:50 | |
| Is there anyone from the public that would like to speak this evening? | 01:05:52 | |
| Sidney had a leg cramp. | 01:06:02 | |
| Anyone on council have any? | 01:06:04 | |
| Committee reports or anything to update on? | 01:06:06 | |
| I just like to now talk about to put up with me for at least a minimum. | 01:06:10 | |
| Without us. Happy to have it in my race. | 01:06:14 | |
| Happy to have you. | 01:06:17 | |
| Focused on county business. | 01:06:19 | |
| Anybody else? | 01:06:23 | |
| All right, entertain a motion. I'll make a motion to adjourn. | 01:06:26 | |
| 2nd. | 01:06:29 | |
| All in favor. | 01:06:30 | |
| Aye, adjourned. | 01:06:31 | |
| Don't leave. There's paperwork side. | 01:06:35 |
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| Welcome to the Floyd County Council regular meeting for Tuesday, May 12th, 2026. | 00:00:05 | |
| Please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance. | 00:00:10 | |
| Pledge allegiance to the flag. | 00:00:13 | |
| The United States of America. | 00:00:15 | |
| To the Republic for which it stands. | 00:00:17 | |
| One Nation. | 00:00:20 | |
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| Mr. Fry Burger is not with us tonight. | 00:00:34 | |
| Councilman Tran, would you? | 00:00:38 | |
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| We wouldn't ask that every good and. | 00:00:56 | |
| Come from you. | 00:00:58 | |
| And we ask for your wisdom, your damage. | 00:00:59 | |
| The ring is cancel. | 00:01:03 | |
| And as we meet, going. | 00:01:06 | |
| What's my name? | 00:01:08 | |
| A scene from The Commanders. | 00:01:10 | |
| Around and we know a new beginning for private. | 00:01:11 | |
| You embrace the work of. | 00:01:15 | |
| And then decisions before us. | 00:01:17 | |
| And. | 00:01:21 | |
| I have employees that take care of the healthcare. | 00:01:26 | |
| Remember that animal labor daily? | 00:01:28 | |
| To strengthen our community. | 00:01:30 | |
| I will have to. | 00:01:33 | |
| Reasoning to manage the resources responsibly. | 00:01:34 | |
| What is going to plan for the future and the humidity to remember that leadership is serviced. | 00:01:38 | |
| Are these things we ask in your son Jesus name? | 00:01:44 | |
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| Thank you, Tony. | 00:01:48 | |
| Alright, acceptance of tonight's agenda. | 00:01:50 | |
| Move text app. | 00:01:54 | |
| 2nd. | 00:01:55 | |
| We have a motion and a second for. | 00:01:57 | |
| Tonight's agenda? Any discussion? | 00:02:00 | |
| All in favor say aye. | 00:02:04 | |
| Aye, any opposed? | 00:02:05 | |
| That carries. | 00:02:07 | |
| Approval minutes from our April 14th meeting. | 00:02:09 | |
| Move to approve. | 00:02:13 | |
| 2nd I have a motion and a second. | 00:02:15 | |
| April 14th meetings. Any discussion on those? | 00:02:18 | |
| All in favor say aye aye. | 00:02:22 | |
| Any opposed? | 00:02:24 | |
| I abstain. | 00:02:25 | |
| I was absent. | 00:02:26 | |
| That that passes with one abstention. | 00:02:28 | |
| We will now open the. | 00:02:32 | |
| Public hearing for Night Tonight's additional. | 00:02:34 | |
| Appropriations. Is there anyone from the public that would like to speak? | 00:02:37 | |
| About our additional appropriations. | 00:02:40 | |
| Seeing none, I will adjourn the public hearing, and we will. | 00:02:45 | |
| Get started with new business. | 00:02:48 | |
| Page, you're up, Baker Tilly. | 00:02:50 | |
| Thank you. | 00:02:58 | |
| I'm good, I made my own. | 00:02:59 | |
| I. | 00:03:17 | |
| Yard. | 00:03:23 | |
| Well, thank you for having me on the agenda. I wanted to give you an update on some legislative changes and also give you a | 00:03:26 | |
| preview of your budget. | 00:03:30 | |
| I do want to let you know that the we have updated your long term financial plan. | 00:03:34 | |
| It is nearly complete. I would like to come back next month and present that draft to you. | 00:03:39 | |
| And that'll be just in time, hopefully for your, your budget season. What we're waiting on right now is. | 00:03:45 | |
| 2026 circuit breaker information from the department of local government finance It should be any day that we get that we did get | 00:03:51 | |
| circuit breaker information from the county abstract which. | 00:03:56 | |
| Is hopefully identical to what DLGF will give us, but we just want to make sure and we also. | 00:04:02 | |
| Are running that parcel by parcel analysis so we can have a good outlook through 2031 as to how Senate Enrolled Act One will | 00:04:07 | |
| impact you. | 00:04:12 | |
| So all of that is underway again, nearly complete. We will be back here next month. I'll work with Diana to figure out the best | 00:04:17 | |
| date to appear before you with that information. | 00:04:23 | |
| So. | 00:04:30 | |
| Again wanted to give where should I point those because it's not working. How is it not working? | 00:04:31 | |
| OK, thank you. OK. So first of all with the local income tax, there were some changes at the beginning of the year and. | 00:04:39 | |
| Honestly, we anticipate. | 00:04:47 | |
| Further changes in the 2027 legislative session. So just when we thought we had figured it out. | 00:04:50 | |
| I I'm sure there will be additional changes, but here's the good news. | 00:04:56 | |
| It has been delayed. The implementation of the new local income tax structure has been delayed till 2029. That's good news | 00:05:00 | |
| because. | 00:05:04 | |
| The Department of Revenue doesn't yet have the information we need or in for any of the municipalities to determine the adjusted | 00:05:09 | |
| gross income by municipality as you know the way our structure works right now. | 00:05:15 | |
| We do have the adjusted gross income county wide. | 00:05:21 | |
| But it's not broken out by municipality in order for us. | 00:05:25 | |
| For this new structure to work, we need to have it by municipality. | 00:05:28 | |
| Now we are able to get very good estimates of the adjusted gross income, so we are running local income tax analysis. | 00:05:33 | |
| We, we will do that. | 00:05:40 | |
| Based on the estimated adjusted gross income. | 00:05:43 | |
| But regardless, it has been delayed to 2029, so in 2028 you all will be making some very important decisions. | 00:05:46 | |
| And I'm going to talk about the municipal unit task force before I leave here tonight because that's part of. | 00:05:53 | |
| That's a very important part of making those decisions in 2028. | 00:06:00 | |
| So another change. | 00:06:05 | |
| Pretty significant. | 00:06:08 | |
| Is that there is now the ability for those municipalities that are 3500 and above population. | 00:06:09 | |
| They could now opt into a county wide municipal rate. | 00:06:18 | |
| So if you remember under the previous legislation. | 00:06:23 | |
| Those municipalities that have populations up below 3500. | 00:06:27 | |
| Had to be into, had to be in the county wide municipal rate. They had no choice. | 00:06:31 | |
| But those that were 3500 and above, like new album New Albany for example. | 00:06:37 | |
| They could just go and adopt their own reign. | 00:06:42 | |
| Well, what we were finding last year is that those larger municipalities were not bringing in near what they they would be. | 00:06:44 | |
| Or what they are currently under that type of structure because? | 00:06:53 | |
| Their rate would only be on the adjusted gross income of their municipality rather than county wide. | 00:06:58 | |
| So now that they are able to opt into the county wide, so here it would be like New Albany and Georgetown could now be in that | 00:07:03 | |
| county wide pool. They will likely benefit from that. | 00:07:09 | |
| But they're going to lose the ability to be able to adopt their own. | 00:07:15 | |
| So this is all things that that we need to kind of look at. | 00:07:19 | |
| Run analysis, run scenarios and see. | 00:07:23 | |
| How it benefits? | 00:07:27 | |
| You the county unit. | 00:07:28 | |
| Will be able to get a share of this county wide municipal rate. | 00:07:30 | |
| Think which would be an adjust addition to your county wide county services rate. | 00:07:34 | |
| So there is a benefit to the county unit as well. | 00:07:40 | |
| Lit readoption. So when this first came about, we were going to have to adopt this local income tax annually. | 00:07:46 | |
| That is still there, but. | 00:07:54 | |
| When you adopt it for the first time, that's going to carry for three years then. | 00:07:56 | |
| There will be annual adoption after that. | 00:08:01 | |
| Five, there were changes made to the fire and EMS local income tax. | 00:08:05 | |
| So the changes. | 00:08:10 | |
| Really give the county more ability to. | 00:08:12 | |
| In the way in which you allocate these. | 00:08:17 | |
| So another words. | 00:08:19 | |
| There was this 20 times multiplier for the service area and it was a very specific formula on how you allocate. | 00:08:21 | |
| The fire Ernie and massive revenue. | 00:08:28 | |
| And none of it seemed to go to the county unit. | 00:08:30 | |
| Which was a huge flaw. If you Remember Me coming last year, I said that was a huge flaw in the legislation that's been fixed now. | 00:08:33 | |
| There is an allocation that go to. | 00:08:40 | |
| That can go to the county unit as well as fire territories districts. | 00:08:42 | |
| And then, in certain circumstances, townships. | 00:08:46 | |
| You, as the County Council, can still decide to. | 00:08:50 | |
| To allocate it to Volunteer Fire departments as well. | 00:08:53 | |
| There is. | 00:08:57 | |
| There is a formula. | 00:08:59 | |
| And it's based on service area and population, but you, the County Council, gets to determine how to weight those. | 00:09:00 | |
| So if you want to wait it more on population or more on service area that's. | 00:09:07 | |
| You're going to have the authority to do that, so you're going to have a lot of of decisions to make. And again, Baker Tilly's | 00:09:12 | |
| here to help you run scenarios on what that different weighting looks like. | 00:09:18 | |
| And that all goes back to this municipal unit strategic. | 00:09:24 | |
| Task force and why that's going to be important. And again I'll I will get them. | 00:09:28 | |
| Hit on that in a minute. | 00:09:31 | |
| So if we go, Oh yeah, sure. | 00:09:33 | |
| So. | 00:09:35 | |
| There's going to be 1 lit rate. | 00:09:37 | |
| But. | 00:09:39 | |
| There's but the fire and EMS LIT will stay in place. | 00:09:40 | |
| So. | 00:09:44 | |
| That brings me to my next slide. If you go yes, that. | 00:09:45 | |
| We'll go right to the next slide. So here's. | 00:09:48 | |
| What this new structure looks like? | 00:09:50 | |
| So there will be a county services rate. | 00:09:53 | |
| 1.2%. | 00:09:57 | |
| That all goes to the county unit. | 00:09:58 | |
| Just the county unit. | 00:10:00 | |
| And you're you can levy a rate up to 1.2%. You may not need all of that. | 00:10:02 | |
| That's all for you to use just the county unit. | 00:10:08 | |
| There will be a fire EMS rate, so the public safety lit that you know today that expires. | 00:10:12 | |
| Yeah, that will expire, but there's this new fire EMS rate that you can adopt. | 00:10:19 | |
| And a portion of it can go to the county. | 00:10:24 | |
| For EMS and then you have to distribute it to the fire districts, territories and municipal fire departments. Beyond that, you do | 00:10:28 | |
| have the option of distributing it to Volunteer Fire Department. | 00:10:32 | |
| Just note that. | 00:10:38 | |
| Really, all the local income taxes you have today are going to expire unless you have a special purpose local income tax. That's | 00:10:40 | |
| the only one that does not expire at the end of 2028. | 00:10:45 | |
| So this truly is a whole brand new structure. | 00:10:51 | |
| OK, now we have non municipal local income tax again. You the County Council have to decide if number one you want to adopt this | 00:10:55 | |
| non municipal. | 00:11:00 | |
| And then #2 how? What rate do you want? So how this works is the total non municipal rate cannot exceed .2%. | 00:11:06 | |
| But truly it can't exceed .05% for each unit type. So when I say non municipal I'm talking about. | 00:11:14 | |
| Townships and libraries primarily. | 00:11:22 | |
| So what it comes down to is you can adopt A maximum rate of .05% for the townships. | 00:11:24 | |
| A .05% for the libraries. | 00:11:30 | |
| That's over the entire AGI of the county, and then it gets allocated based on their populations. | 00:11:33 | |
| So it's not multiple rates, it's. | 00:11:38 | |
| I have a library rate of .05%. | 00:11:41 | |
| A Township rate of .05% and then it gets allocated based on population. | 00:11:43 | |
| And as. | 00:11:48 | |
| You know, today in this current structure, it's allocated based on levy. | 00:11:49 | |
| Much different formula. | 00:11:54 | |
| So that's where we may see some big swings either way. | 00:11:56 | |
| Of of revenue allocation. | 00:12:01 | |
| But that's why we really need this. | 00:12:03 | |
| Collaboration and having the townships and libraries in the room to understand these things. | 00:12:05 | |
| And you all will need to understand it because ultimately you will be making those decisions. | 00:12:12 | |
| Municipal services, county wide rate I I did hit on that, but I want to talk about that again so. | 00:12:18 | |
| So these larger municipalities are going to be able to opt into the county wide rate. | 00:12:25 | |
| If they do that, then the smaller units are going to get a little bit diluted, right, because now we have these other entities | 00:12:31 | |
| coming in. But again, you do get a portion of that. | 00:12:36 | |
| Part of the formula is the county gets a portion of that. | 00:12:41 | |
| But when the larger municipalities opt in, you're. | 00:12:45 | |
| Portion gets diluted as well. So again we would need to run scenarios to see how all that will affect the county unit and the | 00:12:48 | |
| municipalities. | 00:12:53 | |
| I think a lot of municipalities like the idea that they will benefit from opting in because they would get more local income tax | 00:12:57 | |
| revenue, but what they don't like. | 00:13:02 | |
| Is the loss of control. | 00:13:06 | |
| Because. | 00:13:09 | |
| They're going to have to. | 00:13:10 | |
| You know, so the cost benefit of of what they want to do there. | 00:13:11 | |
| And then again. | 00:13:16 | |
| As I stated before, the larger municipalities can adopt their own. | 00:13:18 | |
| But the rate is only on their AGI. | 00:13:23 | |
| And would not count. | 00:13:27 | |
| You know, they would not be able to charge other taxpayers outside of their municipality. | 00:13:29 | |
| So the next slide is just an illustration at this point. I just did a very quick calculation of. | 00:13:36 | |
| What it looks like today for just the county unit, so just you all your portion of what is generated. | 00:13:43 | |
| So right now the county unit, this is not county wide, the county unit gets. | 00:13:50 | |
| Certified shares at 6.4 million. | 00:13:55 | |
| Public Public safety 6.6 million. Lit Economic development about 4.1 million. | 00:13:58 | |
| Lit correctional 6.1 million and lit judicial 1.2 so. | 00:14:06 | |
| The county unit gets about 24.4 million. | 00:14:10 | |
| For all of these various items here. | 00:14:14 | |
| Your rate right now is 1.89%. | 00:14:17 | |
| That is your county wide rate. | 00:14:21 | |
| So if we move under this new let structure and again I'm just looking at county services lit. | 00:14:23 | |
| It would take a rate of about .85% to get you about what you have now. | 00:14:31 | |
| So that would be. | 00:14:38 | |
| That would actually give you a little bit more honestly about $1,000,000 more, $25.8 million at. | 00:14:39 | |
| .85% That's why I'm saying you may not want to go. | 00:14:46 | |
| To the full 1.2 you can at some time in the future, it's not like you're locked in. | 00:14:49 | |
| So that's what that looks like for you. We can run, you know, all the other units and, and, and what fire and EMS looks like. But | 00:14:55 | |
| I just wanted you to just to get have some idea of what this looks like for the county unit. | 00:15:02 | |
| Also with. | 00:15:13 | |
| Slide also with this new legislation, we now have protection for for debt that is. | 00:15:15 | |
| That is, has. | 00:15:24 | |
| That is supported by local income tax, and you do have that here in this county. You've got 2 bonds. | 00:15:25 | |
| A recovery zone economic development bond and a park district bond. | 00:15:31 | |
| That is. | 00:15:36 | |
| Supported or has local income tax obligated to it? | 00:15:38 | |
| So I'm glad that this coverage is now in the statute because last year we didn't have any protection. | 00:15:43 | |
| But now you all will have to make sure that you adopt A local income tax rate that's at least sufficient to have 1.25 times | 00:15:51 | |
| coverage on your debt. | 00:15:56 | |
| So that was a move in the right direction. | 00:16:01 | |
| OK, now I want to. | 00:16:07 | |
| Take a little bit of time to talk about this Municipal unit Strategic task Force. | 00:16:08 | |
| So this is an optional task force. You do not need to convene this task force, but I want to. | 00:16:14 | |
| Tell you about the benefits of having such task force. | 00:16:22 | |
| So 1 is that. | 00:16:27 | |
| It really opens up the lines of communication with with the units within this county. That's one. | 00:16:29 | |
| 2 is that. | 00:16:36 | |
| At the end of this. | 00:16:37 | |
| We are going to provide a report or the county would provide a report to the Department of Local Government Finance, which would | 00:16:39 | |
| then go on to the Legislative Council. | 00:16:43 | |
| I think this report is going to be very important to the Legislature so that they understand what does work. | 00:16:49 | |
| What doesn't work? What needs to be changed? | 00:16:55 | |
| Et cetera. And they they. | 00:16:58 | |
| My understanding is that they're going to use these reports as they go into the 2027 legislative session. | 00:17:00 | |
| So let me tell you a little bit about this task force. | 00:17:08 | |
| The task force committee is made-up of 1. | 00:17:11 | |
| County Council member. | 00:17:14 | |
| And the fiscal officer of each municipality. So I think you just have 3 municipalities in in this county. | 00:17:16 | |
| New Albany, Georgetown. And is it Greenville? I think yeah. | 00:17:24 | |
| So small task force. | 00:17:28 | |
| But what we're encouraging is that if you do convene this task force and you have those meetings, invite other taxing units to | 00:17:31 | |
| come. | 00:17:35 | |
| To be in the room and be a part of this discussion, it's unfortunate. | 00:17:40 | |
| That townships weren't. | 00:17:44 | |
| Part of this task force or libraries weren't made a part of this task force or schools or any other unit really, the fire | 00:17:46 | |
| districts, territories. | 00:17:50 | |
| Because they really. | 00:17:55 | |
| They need to convey to you their needs. | 00:17:57 | |
| So that you can determine what rates to adopt for the non municipals. | 00:18:00 | |
| What rate to adopt for the fire and EMS? | 00:18:06 | |
| So basically how this is supposed to be structured is that you convene this task force. | 00:18:09 | |
| And you, it's like a formal collaborative effort. You determine what are the priorities of each of the taxing units, in particular | 00:18:16 | |
| the municipalities and the counties. But. | 00:18:21 | |
| Also the other units as well. | 00:18:26 | |
| And how are you going to structure those rates? | 00:18:29 | |
| This is non binding. | 00:18:33 | |
| By the way. | 00:18:34 | |
| If you come up with a plan at the end, it is non binding. You don't have to stick to that plan, but. | 00:18:35 | |
| What the Legislature is looking for is a plan like we're going to adopt X-ray for county services, we're going to adopt X-ray for | 00:18:40 | |
| fire, EMS. | 00:18:44 | |
| X-ray for. | 00:18:49 | |
| The non municipal units, they want that in a detailed plan. | 00:18:51 | |
| And they really want it to be a unanimous approval of the plan. | 00:18:56 | |
| But what I'm telling counties is that even if you can't get to this unanimous approval. | 00:19:01 | |
| Submit the plan anyway. | 00:19:07 | |
| Because that's what the Legislature needs to hear. Like we just couldn't come to an agreement because of this. This just wouldn't | 00:19:09 | |
| work. | 00:19:13 | |
| So we see a lot of benefits to this task force and, and what I just mentioned, the collaboration #1 and #2 providing that | 00:19:17 | |
| information to the Legislature. | 00:19:24 | |
| So we have a limited amount of time because the the report if you do decide to go through with the strateg. | 00:19:30 | |
| Task Force. The report is due to DLGF. | 00:19:38 | |
| By December 1st, and that seems like a long time away, but. | 00:19:41 | |
| We're already working with the counties right now and we kind of put that out in a timeline. | 00:19:45 | |
| And for us to have all of these meetings and get everybody on the same page, it's probably going to take. | 00:19:50 | |
| That long until December to do this so. | 00:19:55 | |
| Just wanted to let you know about this. We do have. | 00:19:59 | |
| A suite of services that we offer, we can facilitate every meeting. | 00:20:03 | |
| We know what questions to ask to get the conversations going. We can prepare the report for you. | 00:20:07 | |
| The counties were working for right now. They're going to split the cost with the municipalities. You don't have to, but I think. | 00:20:14 | |
| If the municipalities want to have. | 00:20:20 | |
| Like a voice in this, they should be willing to pay for a portion of. | 00:20:22 | |
| But how much is? How much is it? I can send it to you, I've got a menu of the. | 00:20:26 | |
| Because honestly, I don't know how much it's going to cost. We're going to do time and expense and I'm going to show you like a | 00:20:31 | |
| not to exceed amount. So it really depends on how long the meetings last. | 00:20:35 | |
| Umm, how many meetings you need to have? | 00:20:40 | |
| Elkhart County's already done this, and they've already completed their. | 00:20:43 | |
| So I think they only needed like 2 meetings. | 00:20:46 | |
| Which is crazy, isn't it? But but like, that's what it depends on. We're not going to charge you for anything that. | 00:20:48 | |
| You know, we are not. You know, I'm not gonna charge you for five meetings if it only takes a couple meetings. So that's why it's | 00:20:54 | |
| kind of hard to price, but I will send you a scope. | 00:20:58 | |
| And you all can just look at it and see what you need. | 00:21:02 | |
| With that. | 00:21:05 | |
| But yeah, we've, we've engaged a few counties now and and they're moving right along with their meetings, so. | 00:21:06 | |
| I again, I think it's a good thing. At first when I saw that it was optional, I was like, I don't know if people really want to | 00:21:15 | |
| waste time with this, but I see the value in it. I really do. | 00:21:19 | |
| So we can send you our scope of service and it outlines exactly all the phases that we could do, but we could help you facilitate | 00:21:24 | |
| from start to finish. | 00:21:28 | |
| With this task force. | 00:21:33 | |
| So. | 00:21:35 | |
| Next, next slide please is has to do with tax income. Well, do any, does anybody have any questions about the mask before I move | 00:21:37 | |
| on because that was a big thing? | 00:21:41 | |
| No, I know I had questions about it when I first got the e-mail, but I. | 00:21:46 | |
| Looked into it a little bit, so OK. | 00:21:50 | |
| All right, so another item that came up in the legislative session, what has to do with tax increment financing? | 00:21:53 | |
| So redevelopment commissions are required to notify. | 00:22:00 | |
| Or on an annual basis, notify the county. | 00:22:06 | |
| If they're going to pass through any net assessed value, well now there's a penalty if they fail to provide notice. | 00:22:09 | |
| Then the county auditor can reallocate 5% of the assessed value. | 00:22:17 | |
| In an allocation area to the overlapping taxing units. | 00:22:22 | |
| So that could benefit. | 00:22:26 | |
| I don't know if that's a good or bad thing here, but. | 00:22:29 | |
| It could benefit. | 00:22:35 | |
| So. | 00:22:39 | |
| The only way that that wouldn't happen, this is only for the county because we only have a few tips. Yeah, we're not talking about | 00:22:41 | |
| New Albany. | 00:22:44 | |
| Right. It just well, if New Albany doesn't have any tests, then it would just. | 00:22:47 | |
| It's then it applies to all. Yeah. Yes, it's every steps. Yes, it's everyone. Yeah. Yeah, it's Georgetown. | 00:22:52 | |
| All of their tips processed through my office and report to my office. Yeah. Oh wow. | 00:23:02 | |
| I mean, the reason for this like penalty is because people were failing to notify. | 00:23:08 | |
| It's important that they notify if they have any. | 00:23:13 | |
| Excess net assessed value that they can pass through. | 00:23:16 | |
| So. | 00:23:20 | |
| This it it it. | 00:23:21 | |
| Could serve to benefit. | 00:23:23 | |
| Or at least make people do what they need to do. | 00:23:25 | |
| No, they still won't. | 00:23:32 | |
| So. | 00:23:34 | |
| So the next item I want to talk to you is about Township mergers because. | 00:23:38 | |
| There is a component where at least the county commissioners will. | 00:23:43 | |
| Be somewhat involved with this, but I at least want you to be aware of it. | 00:23:46 | |
| So. | 00:23:51 | |
| For many, many years, the Legislature has. | 00:23:53 | |
| Attempted to put something in the statute to reorganize or dissolve townships. Well now we do have something that requires | 00:23:56 | |
| Township mergers and this really is directed towards townships that are low performing. | 00:24:03 | |
| Or have little to no activity. | 00:24:10 | |
| So what this is going to require is it's like a grading system, like a point system. So townships that are assigned at least four | 00:24:14 | |
| points are are designated townships, meaning. | 00:24:20 | |
| They either have to merge with another Township. | 00:24:27 | |
| Or they have to reorganize. | 00:24:30 | |
| With a municipality. | 00:24:32 | |
| If 80% of their boundaries overlap that municipality. | 00:24:35 | |
| Or at least 51% of the population live in that municipality. | 00:24:39 | |
| But again, it's directed to low performing or townships that are just not providing much service. | 00:24:44 | |
| This will be effective January 2029. The DLGF at the end of this year will release the official grades if you will. | 00:24:51 | |
| But if you go to the next slide, this is the point system. I know there's a lot going on here, so I'm not going to hit every | 00:25:01 | |
| single one, but how this is working? | 00:25:05 | |
| Just to give you an idea as if. | 00:25:10 | |
| Let's say, for instance, the Township. | 00:25:12 | |
| Has a certified budget that's less than 100,000. That means they're not providing much service Let's say that they. | 00:25:15 | |
| Are not managing fire and EMS, they're just contracting with another. | 00:25:21 | |
| Another entity. | 00:25:26 | |
| If they are not uploading their annual reports like they're required to or their monthly reports so they just aren't performing. | 00:25:30 | |
| Not providing service so again. | 00:25:38 | |
| If there are side points, that's a bad thing. So if you get 4 at least 4 points. | 00:25:40 | |
| You're going to be required to again either merge with another Township. | 00:25:45 | |
| Or merge with a municipality. | 00:25:50 | |
| So. | 00:25:52 | |
| The grading system is going to come out or the grades are going to come out in December. | 00:25:53 | |
| And the townships will know. | 00:25:58 | |
| So is the state grading these? | 00:26:00 | |
| Yes, the Department of Local Government Finance will be doing the grading. We we have the ability to grade to a certain extent. | 00:26:02 | |
| However, there are some information that's not public record. | 00:26:08 | |
| So the DLGF will make those grades but. | 00:26:13 | |
| If town if a Township disagrees with the DLGS grades, they can petition and ask them to take another look. | 00:26:16 | |
| But yes, it will be the DLGF. They'll be using State Board of accounts data and other data. | 00:26:25 | |
| When they get to 4, will they stop or will they keep rubbing it in and get to? When they get to 4, they'll stop because that's all | 00:26:30 | |
| that's required. | 00:26:33 | |
| So where the county comes into play? | 00:26:40 | |
| Right. Is that umm. | 00:26:43 | |
| On by August 1st of 2027. | 00:26:46 | |
| The county commissioners will have to hold a public meeting of all Township trustees to just discuss the merger, and I imagine the | 00:26:50 | |
| meeting will just be talking about who will need to merge and who they're going to merge with. | 00:26:56 | |
| And then by October 1st, the county commissioners will adopt A resolution that actually names the townships that will merge. | 00:27:04 | |
| And so by February 28th, all that information, February 28th of 28, all that information will be sent to the DLGF and this will be | 00:27:13 | |
| effective January 1 of 2029. | 00:27:18 | |
| Quick question. | 00:27:24 | |
| Can it only be two townships that merge, or can more? It could potentially be more so. | 00:27:26 | |
| The townships that are graded less than 4 can be a recipient Township. | 00:27:32 | |
| So depending on the circumstance, there could be two of those non performing townships. | 00:27:39 | |
| Go in with A1 recipient. | 00:27:45 | |
| If they have money. | 00:27:48 | |
| In a bank account does it? | 00:27:49 | |
| It goes to the recipient, either municipality or Township. | 00:27:51 | |
| Now I do know in some counties townships are. | 00:27:56 | |
| Getting are starting to be proactive and they're trying to merge. | 00:28:00 | |
| With who they want to merge with because they know what's coming down the road. | 00:28:06 | |
| I don't know what the tops are here in this county because I don't work with any townships here in this county, but. | 00:28:10 | |
| They can either take a proactive approach or they're going to merge whether they like it or not for the. | 00:28:16 | |
| I appreciate the. | 00:28:21 | |
| The number the 1st. | 00:28:23 | |
| Point. | 00:28:25 | |
| On the point scale is they're going back to 23 and 24, so. | 00:28:26 | |
| Townships can't go recruit. | 00:28:30 | |
| People in 26 for assistance and. | 00:28:33 | |
| Yeah, that was a. | 00:28:35 | |
| That was a smart move there, but yeah. | 00:28:37 | |
| OK. | 00:28:40 | |
| OK. | 00:28:41 | |
| Next slide just has to do with housing matters. I'm not an expert in this, but just to let you know that there there is some new | 00:28:43 | |
| legislation that grants local ordinances on. | 00:28:48 | |
| Density, setbacks and parking. | 00:28:53 | |
| It limits communities abilities to adopt and raise housing development fees. | 00:28:55 | |
| The residential and housing tip areas will not no longer revert to formal, I'm sorry, former rules in 27/20/27 that would have | 00:29:01 | |
| required a return to the 1% test. | 00:29:06 | |
| It changes the lifespan of residential housing tip areas. | 00:29:14 | |
| And allows property tax abatements to enable higher density and mixed income communities. | 00:29:18 | |
| The only thing I would say about the whole housing thing, because part of that statute has to do with. | 00:29:23 | |
| With fees that are generated from building and construction, like your building permit fees, this is a pretty big change when it | 00:29:29 | |
| comes to budgeting because now starting in 2027, all building and construction fees. | 00:29:36 | |
| Are gonna need to be receded into a separate fund. | 00:29:43 | |
| And then you're building type of like planning and zoning will need to be paid from that fund. | 00:29:47 | |
| That's a pretty big change, and that came out of this Housing matters. | 00:29:53 | |
| And we will be helping the. | 00:29:57 | |
| Determine all of that. We'll look at your general fund, see what needs to be moved. | 00:29:59 | |
| But. | 00:30:04 | |
| You know, and I, I think. | 00:30:05 | |
| I don't think that this happens in many counties, but I guess in some counties maybe. | 00:30:06 | |
| Building permit fees are um. | 00:30:11 | |
| Kind of. | 00:30:13 | |
| Compensating for other. | 00:30:15 | |
| Items. Maybe it's getting used for other things other than building. | 00:30:17 | |
| Stuff. So I think that's why they created the stack. | 00:30:22 | |
| Other legislation you should be aware of. Oh, here's a good one. This is what I call the Baker Tilly legislation. | 00:30:27 | |
| For some reason we were targeted. | 00:30:33 | |
| You now have to upload municipal advisor contracts. | 00:30:36 | |
| And that is effective now. | 00:30:41 | |
| So if you have any Baker Tilly contracts, those need to be uploaded. | 00:30:43 | |
| OK, Yeah. | 00:30:47 | |
| Yeah, anyway, Anyway, yes. | 00:30:52 | |
| It's not just for Baker Tilly, but. | 00:30:55 | |
| We were definitely targeted there. | 00:30:58 | |
| For whatever reason. | 00:31:00 | |
| Well, I know the reason but. | 00:31:01 | |
| Don't talk in riddles because we were out there talking about the effects of Senate and World Act One and there were people that | 00:31:05 | |
| didn't. | 00:31:08 | |
| Care for that? | 00:31:12 | |
| Library budgets. | 00:31:15 | |
| So this is something you also need to be aware of SO. | 00:31:17 | |
| You have. | 00:31:21 | |
| Units that come to you providing review and those are the fire districts. | 00:31:23 | |
| It is possible. I don't know how many libraries you have. Do you just have one county wide library? | 00:31:26 | |
| It's possible that the library could come to you for a binding review because now. | 00:31:32 | |
| Their budget increase is very restrictive. | 00:31:37 | |
| If they increase their bio. | 00:31:41 | |
| Budget by more than half. | 00:31:43 | |
| Of that maximum levy growth quotient. | 00:31:45 | |
| They have to come to you for a binding review, so let me translate that. | 00:31:47 | |
| In 2027, we think that the the levy growth will be about 5.6%. | 00:31:51 | |
| That means the library can't increase its budget by more than 2.8% without having to come to you. | 00:31:57 | |
| For a binding review. | 00:32:03 | |
| So just for awareness, I'm letting you know that. | 00:32:05 | |
| I don't know what we don't work with the library but. | 00:32:08 | |
| If they're saying hey, we need a binding review, that's why. | 00:32:11 | |
| Because. | 00:32:15 | |
| They have an unelected board. | 00:32:17 | |
| And this is what the statute. | 00:32:19 | |
| The constraints that the statute has put on to them. | 00:32:21 | |
| Next slide. | 00:32:26 | |
| Fire Protection districts. So you. | 00:32:27 | |
| You probably heard last year fire territories were capped at a $0.40 rate. | 00:32:30 | |
| That has now been extended to fire districts now. | 00:32:35 | |
| Current fire districts are grandfathered in. | 00:32:38 | |
| But if? | 00:32:41 | |
| Any current fire districts try to expand, they will be capped at that $0.40 rate. | 00:32:42 | |
| I I feel like it's an. | 00:32:49 | |
| An arbitrary rate. I don't know where they came. | 00:32:51 | |
| Up with that. | 00:32:53 | |
| Umm, but. | 00:32:55 | |
| You know, I just don't think this is going to be sustainable in the long term. So we'll see if that ever changes, but right now | 00:32:56 | |
| they're capped at $0.40. Not only that. | 00:33:00 | |
| Equipment replacement funds and cumulative fire funds that both territories and districts have. | 00:33:06 | |
| That used to be outside the maximum levy limitations are now within. | 00:33:12 | |
| Their loving limitations so that even they've been restricted even more. | 00:33:16 | |
| Data centers, that's a popular topic all over the state of Indiana, but. | 00:33:21 | |
| There's a piece of legislation that allows a unit that approves A qualified data center. | 00:33:27 | |
| To receive revenue equal to 1%. | 00:33:32 | |
| Of the data centers electricity bill sales tactics, sales tax exemption. So basically in other words. | 00:33:35 | |
| You get kind of a revenue stream coming in there from a data center if you approve that. | 00:33:41 | |
| Next slide, OK, maximum levy growth portion, I did touch on this, so. | 00:33:50 | |
| For 20. | 00:33:54 | |
| 4-5 and six. | 00:33:56 | |
| The maximum levy growth was limited to 4%. | 00:33:59 | |
| By the legislature for those three years. | 00:34:03 | |
| Good news is that that. | 00:34:06 | |
| Restriction has been lifted for 2027 and beyond unless they change the legislation again. | 00:34:08 | |
| So preliminary. | 00:34:14 | |
| Estimates show that that Levy growth could be 5.6%. That's higher than we've seen in many years. | 00:34:17 | |
| So that actual number should come out in June. | 00:34:24 | |
| But right now we're just going to go with the estimate of 5.6%. | 00:34:28 | |
| And just as a reminder, that's based on a six year average of income basically. | 00:34:32 | |
| So it is income driven. | 00:34:37 | |
| Here's something as a council you should be aware of. | 00:34:41 | |
| My understanding is the State Board of accounts is going to require you to pass a resolution on these two items I'm getting ready | 00:34:44 | |
| to talk about. So item number 1 is. | 00:34:48 | |
| And this was effective July 1st, 2025. | 00:34:53 | |
| Financial institutions tax, also known as FIT. | 00:34:57 | |
| And commercial vehicle excise tax known as CVAT. | 00:35:01 | |
| Those taxes are deposited in funds that you have that are supported with property tax, or that's how it was in the past. | 00:35:05 | |
| Now. | 00:35:13 | |
| You, as a council, can decide to put those taxes in any fund that you wish. | 00:35:15 | |
| The electoral legislation. | 00:35:19 | |
| Have the commissioners dictating. | 00:35:21 | |
| Where? Oh, it's alright, OK. | 00:35:23 | |
| Until it's actually for sure you can take this event, then go. | 00:35:25 | |
| OK. They did have to take that vote last year. | 00:35:29 | |
| And they've already made them, yes, OK, just just for the council's purview, and I apologize. No, that's OK. Steven is going to | 00:35:32 | |
| MBH because it's commercial vehicle excise tax benefit, which is kind of just designated to the general fund. | 00:35:39 | |
| OK, perfect. So now with the vehicle excise. | 00:35:48 | |
| Is that going to be the same way? Is that going to go to? | 00:35:52 | |
| Multiple funds. So you see that the county portion used to get broken up between multiple different levy funds. It's now just goes | 00:35:55 | |
| directly to LRS or MBH and then. | 00:36:00 | |
| The Fit County portion. | 00:36:06 | |
| But the auto aircraft excise, which is also a part of that settlement. | 00:36:10 | |
| Yeah, that's new. Yeah, right. So that starts. | 00:36:14 | |
| Yeah. No, no, no, gotcha. The next one, Yeah, yeah. | 00:36:18 | |
| So. | 00:36:22 | |
| Starting for 2027 and we could talk about this during budget time. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. | 00:36:23 | |
| You also have. | 00:36:27 | |
| An auto aircraft. | 00:36:29 | |
| Excise tax. | 00:36:30 | |
| And that's a larger. | 00:36:33 | |
| Revenue stream than those than the CVET and FIT, that's a larger revenue stream. So that we'll need to decide, you know, if that's | 00:36:35 | |
| still going to be divvied up among the funds or just go to general or however you want to do that. So we can work on that during | 00:36:39 | |
| budget season. | 00:36:44 | |
| It it is something that you do have to consider and we can help you with that. | 00:36:51 | |
| So what's coming up? | 00:36:57 | |
| This is a little budget preview. | 00:36:59 | |
| Next slide. | 00:37:02 | |
| So. | 00:37:05 | |
| In 2026. | 00:37:06 | |
| The property tax credits, also known as circuit breaker credit, should be available. | 00:37:08 | |
| And. | 00:37:12 | |
| I They actually should have been available mid-april and we're still looking for them, but I understand that some counties have | 00:37:13 | |
| been released so. | 00:37:17 | |
| Once we get those circuit breaker credits, we will let you know. | 00:37:21 | |
| What it looks like as far as what we estimated. | 00:37:25 | |
| For the 2026 budget. | 00:37:28 | |
| And what they are. | 00:37:30 | |
| Actually, because we might have to make some course corrections, I hope not. I think we tend to be conservative. So we're | 00:37:31 | |
| probably, we probably have a higher estimate than what will actually occur. But we need to let you know that and we will as soon | 00:37:36 | |
| as we get those numbers. | 00:37:40 | |
| We are preliminary estimates. | 00:37:46 | |
| Was a $716,000 increase for all property tax supported funds. So another words in 2025, the property tax credits. | 00:37:49 | |
| OR 530,000. So that was a reduction of your property tax revenue? | 00:38:00 | |
| Our preliminary estimates as I stand here right now is about 1.245 million, but we had incorporated that into your budget. | 00:38:04 | |
| So everything should be OK now if it comes in at higher than 1.2, that's where we may need to make some adjustments. | 00:38:14 | |
| Supplemental local income tax distributions, those are available now. Unfortunately Floyd County is not getting any supplemental | 00:38:22 | |
| local income tax. We we did check that and you're they're just scheduled to start qualifying again until next year, OK, OK. We had | 00:38:29 | |
| a period of time that we had to make up for an overdistriction that will now make withheld from us for three to four years. And I | 00:38:36 | |
| think that next year for sure even a lot of qualifying, OK. | 00:38:42 | |
| And and hopefully you get some. | 00:38:49 | |
| That will end up going away in 2029. | 00:38:53 | |
| We talked about the property tax levy growth factor that is. That is some good news. There is a new budget application in Gateway | 00:38:59 | |
| Budget 2.0. We will assist the county with that. It seems pretty straightforward. It's actually a better system, I think. | 00:39:07 | |
| Yeah, it carries more through it, it does. So I think that'll be a good thing. | 00:39:15 | |
| And then the 2027 local income tax, which has been going up, we've been experiencing growth. Those numbers will come out. | 00:39:20 | |
| At least the preliminary estimates in August, so we will keep an eye out for that as well. | 00:39:29 | |
| And the final page, if you want to start planning for budgets is. It's showing your estimated receipts in column B for each of | 00:39:35 | |
| your fonts. | 00:39:40 | |
| The disbursements we just kind of put in an arbitrary growth factor of 3%. So I wouldn't focus on that so much. | 00:39:46 | |
| But column. | 00:39:52 | |
| As the estimated receipt, so for like. | 00:39:53 | |
| The county general under just real quick. | 00:39:56 | |
| Perusing those numbers because keep in mind the numbers that were provided to Baker Tilly were prior to the most recent joint | 00:39:59 | |
| meeting where an additional some creation occurred in the public safety list. | 00:40:05 | |
| Not bank on that beginning fund balance and column A for the public safety list, you can thank you. | 00:40:10 | |
| Yeah, we'll get those updated numbers too. Yeah, that's a good point. And that's really why I just want to. | 00:40:16 | |
| Want you to focus on column B on this report. | 00:40:21 | |
| I didn't want them to be around, you know? I know, I know. | 00:40:24 | |
| Column B How much it was adjusted by, you know. | 00:40:27 | |
| 3 million. | 00:40:31 | |
| I can tell you that my estimate for the end of the year for that balance is going to be about $600,000. | 00:40:32 | |
| So I firmly believe we're going to roll into 2027 with a carryover of $600,000. | 00:40:39 | |
| That should be offset somewhere else then. | 00:40:45 | |
| No, it's additional spending that has happened this year as ambulances. | 00:40:50 | |
| At the beginning of EMS and all of those things. | 00:40:54 | |
| So it's it's offset in the fact that there's growth. | 00:40:57 | |
| Direction of those those dollars. | 00:41:01 | |
| No, no, no worries. So column B is, yes, what I would focus on right now. These are preliminary revenue estimates, but if you just | 00:41:08 | |
| want to get a general idea of the revenue that we think will be coming into those funds, this would be for your recurring costs. | 00:41:15 | |
| So. | 00:41:23 | |
| Again, preliminary numbers based on what we know today, these will change as we get additional information. When I come back next | 00:41:24 | |
| month, I'm hoping we're reasonably close, but next month we'll have even more information that we'll be able to. | 00:41:31 | |
| Log into your model. So again, preliminary information. | 00:41:37 | |
| For you to to take a look at. | 00:41:42 | |
| Any that was a lot of information. I went over any questions, but I did want to. | 00:41:47 | |
| Come down, touch base with you, let you know that we're. | 00:41:51 | |
| We've got your financial plan nearly complete. We'll be back next month. | 00:41:55 | |
| Any questions for Paige? | 00:42:00 | |
| The Europe is normally a client of your own. | 00:42:02 | |
| I'm sorry, normally a client y'all. | 00:42:06 | |
| I don't. | 00:42:09 | |
| Think so. I don't work with them make it a lot easier for us. I know I don't I can check, I know we don't do any budgetary things | 00:42:10 | |
| for them, but we might do other things like economic development. I can check and see I just. | 00:42:15 | |
| We try to. | 00:42:22 | |
| Keep separation like since I am assigned to you. | 00:42:23 | |
| I wouldn't work for New Albany. Somebody else in the firm would. That's why I don't know, but I can certainly find out. | 00:42:28 | |
| Yep, normally as a client. | 00:42:34 | |
| Victor Tilly, That's a hole. | 00:42:36 | |
| Yeah, this makes it a lot easier, yes. | 00:42:38 | |
| That's true and. | 00:42:40 | |
| As we're doing these musts, these task forces, there's some counties where all of the units are Baker Tilly clients, so it does | 00:42:42 | |
| help. | 00:42:46 | |
| Because we can get everybody coordinated all in the same room and. | 00:42:51 | |
| It does help and I'll find out if New Albany is. I just I don't know. I know that the fire district is obviously our client. | 00:42:54 | |
| So the Georgetown or fire territory now, I guess. | 00:43:02 | |
| Fire District who is this must something we were going to discuss. | 00:43:06 | |
| Now or. | 00:43:11 | |
| Yes, for lack of a better term, yes, so that you can have a better idea. It might be something to put on the joint agenda for | 00:43:17 | |
| Friday. | 00:43:21 | |
| I'm I'm not just making this Oh yes, now and then and that way you have some additional information because that are. | 00:43:25 | |
| And if you need me to join virtually to answer questions or if there's questions that arise and. | 00:43:33 | |
| You'd like to follow up, that's fine as well. | 00:43:38 | |
| Good. Perfect. | 00:43:42 | |
| Anything else? | 00:43:46 | |
| Yes, that will be in our report. I, I don't have a copy of the draft report with me, but we will make sure that that's a part of | 00:43:58 | |
| that. Yeah, for sure. | 00:44:03 | |
| All right. Thank you very much. All right, thank you. Thank you. | 00:44:10 | |
| All right. Is anybody here representing the? | 00:44:19 | |
| Public Defender. | 00:44:22 | |
| Is that you? | 00:44:25 | |
| Go ahead. | 00:44:26 | |
| I know that you got to see the prosecutor. | 00:44:32 | |
| Last month concerning some additional appropriations due to the high cost of some trials. | 00:44:34 | |
| So far this year, this. | 00:44:39 | |
| Follows the same vein, except it is outside of the. It's out of their supplemental fund. | 00:44:41 | |
| Motion to approve 2A. | 00:44:49 | |
| And sabotage. | 00:44:50 | |
| Tag it. We have a motion a second for 2A. Any questions or discussion? | 00:44:51 | |
| All in favor say aye. | 00:44:57 | |
| Any opposed that carries? | 00:44:59 | |
| Mr. Dennison. | 00:45:01 | |
| Good evening. All of this is Grant related. | 00:45:07 | |
| Items. The 1st is a. | 00:45:10 | |
| A new fund that had to be created because the. | 00:45:13 | |
| Land and Water Conservation Fund is federal money, so it has to be in its own. | 00:45:15 | |
| Account our own fund and this is to move money into those lines so. | 00:45:20 | |
| This is all for construction and. | 00:45:25 | |
| Planning for Phase 2? | 00:45:27 | |
| Of the Bob Lane Regional Park, the design is in the early stages and there will be some. | 00:45:30 | |
| Minor construction and things for phase two later this year. | 00:45:35 | |
| Motion to approve 3A as advertised. | 00:45:40 | |
| 2nd. | 00:45:43 | |
| I have a motion and a second. | 00:45:44 | |
| 438. | 00:45:46 | |
| Any questions for my just have comment. Glad you briefly. | 00:45:47 | |
| Explain what professional services is. | 00:45:51 | |
| Oh yeah, yeah, I mean. | 00:45:53 | |
| I'll just stop it again, at least in its supporting dogs. | 00:45:55 | |
| I mean, we get stuff for 125 hundred 30,000. | 00:45:59 | |
| Professional. Sorry, it could be. | 00:46:02 | |
| Maybe somebody washed the car. That's a professional. Yeah, I don't know. | 00:46:04 | |
| They're usually contractually based. | 00:46:07 | |
| OK. | 00:46:10 | |
| Yeah, there were. Professional services fall under a contract. | 00:46:12 | |
| There were some options that Diane and Gloria gave us and so for. | 00:46:16 | |
| We'll take all the design stuff out of professional services and then. | 00:46:20 | |
| But the other construction there that line. | 00:46:23 | |
| How's the? | 00:46:26 | |
| Totally unrelated, how's the path going to community park? | 00:46:28 | |
| The path no at the hillside. | 00:46:31 | |
| It's getting ready to get an RFP out for design. We have your money that you guys were kind enough at the end of last year to give | 00:46:33 | |
| us. | 00:46:37 | |
| It's in one of our non reverting funds and the federal money. | 00:46:41 | |
| To go with that, I'm still waiting to get it. I got an e-mail last week. | 00:46:44 | |
| Of the next step. It's an online ACH process, but no. | 00:46:48 | |
| No beginning to that. Just a heads up that it's coming. So we're watching for that, but we're going to go ahead with the design | 00:46:53 | |
| work. There's been some preliminary. | 00:46:57 | |
| Options. | 00:47:02 | |
| Uh, design work to. | 00:47:03 | |
| Get us to where we're at now, now that we have the. | 00:47:04 | |
| The avenue that we want to take the the style of trail that we think it fits, the budget that we've got totally to work with. | 00:47:07 | |
| We feel comfortable going ahead and having the full design of the trail done. | 00:47:15 | |
| And as long as we get the federal money at some point here in the next month or so, we hope that that is a project that takes | 00:47:19 | |
| place. | 00:47:22 | |
| By the fall of this year is our hope. | 00:47:26 | |
| Good. All right. Any other questions on 3A? | 00:47:28 | |
| All in favor say aye. | 00:47:33 | |
| Aye, any opposed? | 00:47:35 | |
| Carries. | 00:47:36 | |
| Item B. Both of those items are. | 00:47:39 | |
| Grants that. | 00:47:41 | |
| Have been. | 00:47:42 | |
| That came long before my time here. | 00:47:44 | |
| They were under commissioner line items and we're just requesting to move those into. | 00:47:46 | |
| 1178 one of our non reverting funds, the Duke Trail grant, that's leftover money that. | 00:47:51 | |
| We're trying to figure out how to put that to use at the Jensen Trail based on the grant agreement from years ago and then the | 00:47:57 | |
| Caesars Foundation. That's the major gift, 200,000 a year. | 00:48:02 | |
| $1,000,000 in total. We just got our draw. | 00:48:08 | |
| For this year, we have one more year on that and we will be approaching Caesars again to. | 00:48:11 | |
| Talk about continuing to help us with that park as we move forward. So this is just getting stuff in funds that we have full | 00:48:16 | |
| control over and so we can better. | 00:48:21 | |
| Stay on top of them and stay organized. | 00:48:27 | |
| Motion to approve 3B as advertised. | 00:48:32 | |
| Second, have a motion and a second for 3B. | 00:48:35 | |
| Any questions for Matt? | 00:48:38 | |
| Discussion. | 00:48:40 | |
| All in favor say aye aye. | 00:48:41 | |
| Any opposed? | 00:48:43 | |
| Carries is there is that is CA carryover from last time or is that? | 00:48:45 | |
| New this time. | 00:48:50 | |
| We've had so many different grant proposals. I'm not. | 00:48:52 | |
| It doesn't. | 00:48:56 | |
| Please maybe this one is. | 00:48:58 | |
| They went to convention but hadn't get counsel yet. Yes. | 00:49:02 | |
| It's just permission to finish. | 00:49:06 | |
| It's a clean up. | 00:49:07 | |
| Really, I believe this grant has already written. Is it the? Is it the legacy? | 00:49:08 | |
| I believe so, yeah. So just. | 00:49:12 | |
| Following procedure. | 00:49:16 | |
| Yeah. So somehow. | 00:49:18 | |
| We came a few meetings ago with like 3 or 4 grant proposals and I'm scared when I give him to Gloria I gave only three instead of | 00:49:19 | |
| four. | 00:49:23 | |
| We went ahead and applied for the Legacy Foundation. | 00:49:27 | |
| It's I think a $200,000 request. They were kind enough to help us last year with kind of kick starting some work at Stampede | 00:49:30 | |
| Community Park at Shelter 4, which is underway now. | 00:49:35 | |
| The hope is with this grant that we could pair this with the money from the tourism Bureau. | 00:49:40 | |
| For a small amphitheater facility. So the money we have from tourism is a nice start. | 00:49:45 | |
| We need some more money to make sure that it's done correctly, that it has a parking lot, that it probably has its own restroom | 00:49:51 | |
| facilities. | 00:49:54 | |
| We have big plans there when it comes to entertainment, music and so forth, and this would be the next step in helping. | 00:49:58 | |
| Make those reality so. | 00:50:05 | |
| I'm sorry for the oversight, it just didn't get that on the agenda. | 00:50:07 | |
| But it's been applied for. | 00:50:11 | |
| Make motion. We accept 4C. | 00:50:12 | |
| I will say. | 00:50:14 | |
| Second process is actually how we caught that this didn't make it through 2nd. | 00:50:17 | |
| Yeah, it works OK. | 00:50:23 | |
| We have a motion and a second for 3C. | 00:50:25 | |
| Any further discussion? Sorry, I had to be the one that. | 00:50:27 | |
| Make sure your ordinance works. | 00:50:30 | |
| No, you're not. Yeah, you're not. | 00:50:33 | |
| All in favor of three C say aye. | 00:50:37 | |
| Aye, any opposed? | 00:50:39 | |
| That carries. Thank you all. | 00:50:41 | |
| Mr. Staying high. | 00:50:43 | |
| You are up. | 00:50:46 | |
| Good evening. | 00:50:50 | |
| Mr. Tran, Welcome back, Sir. It's good to see you. | 00:50:52 | |
| Thank you. It's good to be keeping you in our prayers for serving. Thank you. | 00:50:54 | |
| #4A, this is it's a basically it's a pass through house unit. | 00:50:58 | |
| To hold traffic study monies that are being paid by developer for the Highway 150 break. | 00:51:04 | |
| That we're going to turn right around right to check out to Strand. | 00:51:10 | |
| To do the highway study. | 00:51:14 | |
| At 1:50 so. | 00:51:16 | |
| I would just ask them to create a pathway so that we create a solid audit trail for the. | 00:51:18 | |
| We've got the money and it's already been received in 9112. | 00:51:23 | |
| Just asking to set up a an expense allocation line. | 00:51:26 | |
| With this request here and to allow us to pay. | 00:51:30 | |
| Strand Invoice. | 00:51:33 | |
| Make a motion to accept for a. | 00:51:36 | |
| Flag it. | 00:51:38 | |
| We have a motion and a second for 4A. Any questions for Stan? | 00:51:39 | |
| I can tell him it's a mess. | 00:51:43 | |
| I'm sorry Sir, I can tell him 150 is a mess. | 00:51:45 | |
| Whether there was that accident today, a semi ran right up off Napleton Rd. I think it was and. | 00:51:49 | |
| Yeah, it's. | 00:51:54 | |
| It's always a mess. | 00:51:55 | |
| All right, all in favor of 4A say aye. | 00:51:58 | |
| Aye, any opposed that carries? | 00:52:02 | |
| 4B This is a grant proposal again, we. | 00:52:04 | |
| Trying to follow all the procedures, all as cross, all T's. This is a Lily grant. | 00:52:08 | |
| It's supported by Ready Money. | 00:52:13 | |
| This is. | 00:52:15 | |
| Going to be used in the. | 00:52:16 | |
| Elimination of the OR it's the blight elimination out the Edwardsville school. | 00:52:19 | |
| The gym remodel is now. | 00:52:23 | |
| Pushing upwards of 400,000 in the remodel so. | 00:52:25 | |
| Applying for a grant to assist in the funding of this entire process. So we're just making the council aware of this particular | 00:52:29 | |
| opportunity that we're trying to take advantage of. | 00:52:34 | |
| Motion to approve 4B. | 00:52:40 | |
| 2nd. | 00:52:44 | |
| Motion in a second, 4B. | 00:52:45 | |
| Any further discussion on the? | 00:52:47 | |
| Proposal. | 00:52:49 | |
| Stan, I'm just curious. | 00:52:50 | |
| We've applied for another grant for this too. | 00:52:52 | |
| Were we denied or Yes? Well, we haven't been denied yet. This was the Aaron Houchins grant. | 00:52:54 | |
| If that goes through, that was actually for the. | 00:53:00 | |
| The other portion of the the facility, the school there. | 00:53:04 | |
| This specifically is targeted in the gym location. | 00:53:07 | |
| Yes, Sir. | 00:53:11 | |
| All right, all in favor of 4B say aye. | 00:53:14 | |
| Aye, any opposed? | 00:53:17 | |
| Thank you. | 00:53:18 | |
| See so. | 00:53:20 | |
| I asked him put this on the council. Thanks Diane, I appreciate it. | 00:53:22 | |
| There's been lots of discussion about gold buying that go bond funding. | 00:53:26 | |
| I I've talked with Gary several times. The there's been a lot of discussion about the. | 00:53:30 | |
| Utilization of. | 00:53:35 | |
| Go bond funds from the council's behalf. | 00:53:37 | |
| On upgrading. | 00:53:40 | |
| The IT equipment that we currently have in place. | 00:53:42 | |
| We have a lot of our. | 00:53:45 | |
| Switches. | 00:53:48 | |
| That are reaching end of life. | 00:53:49 | |
| We have in this particular plan right now, we currently have about four weeks. | 00:53:51 | |
| We're looking at about 3535 switches. | 00:53:55 | |
| 32 of them or two of them are other core switches and then we did the remodel or the upgrade of all the courts and the clerks PCs. | 00:53:59 | |
| Last year thanks to your assistance. | 00:54:08 | |
| But this money is also to buy an additional 132 PCs. | 00:54:11 | |
| So that we can get all of the PCs in the county. | 00:54:15 | |
| Up to. | 00:54:18 | |
| A an upgraded level to perform it. It's at a peak performance moving into the future. | 00:54:19 | |
| And then where our attempt us to. | 00:54:25 | |
| And working with Gary and his team to. | 00:54:27 | |
| Get our PC and our IT equipment on a. | 00:54:29 | |
| Subsequent recycle. | 00:54:32 | |
| Period. | 00:54:34 | |
| We're not exactly sure how that's going to play out, but we had to start with Foundation somewhere. | 00:54:36 | |
| And I think there's been a lot of discussions. | 00:54:40 | |
| About. | 00:54:43 | |
| To go buy monies using it for this IT upgrade program and establishing this foundation. | 00:54:44 | |
| So I'm not really asking for any funding at this point. | 00:54:49 | |
| At this point, but I think. | 00:54:52 | |
| I wanted to kind of bring it to light so that we could have a discussion. | 00:54:54 | |
| About what this plan is starting to unfold. | 00:54:58 | |
| As you know, the longer we put off. | 00:55:02 | |
| A commitment to doing. | 00:55:04 | |
| Uh, in negotiating for. | 00:55:06 | |
| Switches or PCs or any of the IT equipment. | 00:55:09 | |
| Prices are continuing to escalate in that world. | 00:55:12 | |
| Right now, based on just the numbers I shared with you, Trace 3, they're the organization who has. | 00:55:15 | |
| I've been vetted for the switch upgrades. | 00:55:22 | |
| And that's coming in right now at 332,000. | 00:55:26 | |
| A little bit of change. | 00:55:30 | |
| Dell right now has given us an estimated price for 132 PCs and all of the. | 00:55:32 | |
| Links to getting those upgraded at about 220-1000. | 00:55:38 | |
| Now I know we. | 00:55:43 | |
| We have brief discussions about half $1,000,000 from the Gold Bond. | 00:55:44 | |
| This comes in at $554,000. Just adding the numbers. So the reason? | 00:55:49 | |
| Again, part of. | 00:55:55 | |
| Why I think we need to have this discussion? | 00:55:56 | |
| Is. | 00:55:59 | |
| If the Council is committed to. | 00:55:59 | |
| That half, $1,000,000, at least it gives and moving this program forward. | 00:56:02 | |
| It gives us negotiating powers. | 00:56:06 | |
| With these organizations. | 00:56:08 | |
| To say this is a real life situation. | 00:56:10 | |
| We are not just trying to negotiate for the best price to go back and then find funding. | 00:56:12 | |
| We have funding somewhere in place. Our target is 500,000. | 00:56:16 | |
| If if that's still an agreed upon amount. | 00:56:21 | |
| But now if, if the Council is willing to move forward with this process. | 00:56:23 | |
| We have a foundation, a solid foundation to negotiate fraud. | 00:56:30 | |
| And and that's. | 00:56:34 | |
| What I was asking tonight is are we still on board? | 00:56:35 | |
| I'm still being supportive. | 00:56:39 | |
| It's it's my understanding we're just waiting on Gary and you all because we've got the money, we're defending their half | 00:56:41 | |
| $1,000,000. That's what we've allowed I think. | 00:56:45 | |
| That was the. That was the commitment. | 00:56:49 | |
| I mean so. | 00:56:51 | |
| And it's still standing. | 00:56:52 | |
| I mean, we're just waiting on you. | 00:56:53 | |
| Well, thank you. And that's. | 00:56:55 | |
| That's what I wanted to bring tonight. Gary's been working on this. It's. | 00:56:56 | |
| It's very time consuming as you know, piercing together a massive upgrade like this. | 00:56:59 | |
| But, but how many PCs? Did you say it's going to be 132 PCs? How many? | 00:57:04 | |
| Do we have total? | 00:57:09 | |
| They just upgraded 80 with the courts in the clerks last year so. | 00:57:11 | |
| Probably looking at about. | 00:57:15 | |
| Right at the 200 mark, I would think. So This can get everybody. Yes, ma'am. | 00:57:17 | |
| Within two years, everybody will have. | 00:57:21 | |
| 2 year old. | 00:57:24 | |
| Yes. | 00:57:26 | |
| That's correct, yes. | 00:57:28 | |
| So we wouldn't have this expense. | 00:57:30 | |
| The entire time I've been the auditor's office, we've not had we get inherited PCs. | 00:57:33 | |
| So as the courts get upgraded. | 00:57:40 | |
| You kind of inherent what they got rid of. | 00:57:43 | |
| I don't want to get too far into the weeds, but I know the. | 00:57:45 | |
| Like the prosecutor's office, they upgraded some of theirs with their own. So are we. I'm sure he's. | 00:57:48 | |
| Took a survey and he's taking those out. Absolutely. Yes Sir. | 00:57:53 | |
| Absolutely. Make any sense to put get that rolling? | 00:57:57 | |
| Start it at the beginning where you only do. | 00:58:01 | |
| 132 you enjoy a third of them and every three years. | 00:58:04 | |
| I I think that's, that's significant, but. | 00:58:08 | |
| What we have to realize is we have fallen so far behind. | 00:58:11 | |
| That we have to have a solid foundation. | 00:58:14 | |
| And I think absolutely that's a plan moving forward now. | 00:58:17 | |
| We get these in place, we're not taking old PCs, we're trying to. | 00:58:20 | |
| In in the IT team has worked very diligently trying to keep everything. | 00:58:24 | |
| Working. | 00:58:29 | |
| And they're working with. | 00:58:30 | |
| Yeah, I did. | 00:58:31 | |
| And with with. | 00:58:33 | |
| With the outside. | 00:58:34 | |
| Influence. | 00:58:35 | |
| Gaining strength I guess. | 00:58:37 | |
| You know the not so nice I guess. | 00:58:39 | |
| We have to protect. | 00:58:42 | |
| As well and and. | 00:58:43 | |
| So this is just the first step and again creating a solid foundation. | 00:58:45 | |
| And then we'll have future discussions on. | 00:58:50 | |
| Potential rotation moving forward. | 00:58:52 | |
| With a very solid plan to hope. | 00:58:54 | |
| To me this is just like the digitizing program. | 00:58:57 | |
| I mean, we're at a point where something needs to be done or we're going to have. | 00:59:00 | |
| Potential for a failure somewhere in the system and it won't be good. | 00:59:04 | |
| Yes, Sir. Absolutely, George. | 00:59:08 | |
| To this point that I asked the Council for a vote. | 00:59:09 | |
| Still adhering to that half $1,000,000 towards the IT projects that I can officially set it aside. | 00:59:13 | |
| I'll make a motion to. | 00:59:20 | |
| I'll make a motion. | 00:59:23 | |
| Can we make a motion to put it in a separate line item? I'll make that motion to. | 00:59:24 | |
| Get the IT money into. | 00:59:29 | |
| I'd like to put the IT money. I'll make a motion to put the half $1,000,000 into a separate. | 00:59:33 | |
| Line item in the go. | 00:59:38 | |
| 10 there's PR. I'm sorry. That's OK. No, no, you do it. You got it. | 00:59:41 | |
| I was just asking. | 00:59:51 | |
| That it be put in a line item. | 00:59:53 | |
| Go for it so there's no additional. | 00:59:54 | |
| You're halfway down the road. | 00:59:57 | |
| Yeah, specify the amount and I guess the. | 01:00:01 | |
| 500,000 in a separate line. I'll second that motion. | 01:00:06 | |
| OK, we have a motion and a second. I want some. | 01:00:10 | |
| Clarification on. | 01:00:12 | |
| We're creating a new line. | 01:00:15 | |
| I'm going to create a new line. It'll still be under their councils department purviews and we're going to call it. They'll still | 01:00:16 | |
| process directly through me with your knowledge and we're going to call it. | 01:00:21 | |
| It's literally gonna probably be IT. | 01:00:26 | |
| ATI Goban. | 01:00:29 | |
| Copy upgrade. Yeah, OK, I'll make sure you got the information, Diana. That will work very closely. | 01:00:30 | |
| Not to exceed 500. | 01:00:38 | |
| We appreciate it. We appreciate it. | 01:00:40 | |
| Any further discussion on this? No. | 01:00:42 | |
| All in favor say aye. | 01:00:47 | |
| Aye. Any opposed? Thank you very much. I certainly appreciate it. | 01:00:48 | |
| I appreciate it. | 01:00:57 | |
| It just makes it to where they do have the unofficial parking power because it is set aside specifically for them. | 01:00:58 | |
| I am covering for JRAC. | 01:01:04 | |
| And for the Opioid Oversight Committee tonight, so 5A is on behalf of J Rack, It is an award that the J Rack awarded at the end of | 01:01:07 | |
| last year, but it is specific to the 2026 crossing into the 2027 budgetary year for our place. | 01:01:14 | |
| So it's not actually part of the current approved budget for that fund. So we do need the additional appropriation granted to that | 01:01:21 | |
| line so that they can pay out that grant to our place. | 01:01:26 | |
| Move to approve 5A. | 01:01:31 | |
| 2nd. | 01:01:33 | |
| Motion and a second for 5A. Any further discussion? | 01:01:34 | |
| All in favor say aye aye. | 01:01:39 | |
| Any opposed? | 01:01:41 | |
| SO5B is the unrestricted opioid funds, and that would be the opioid Oversight Committee, which consists of myself, the county | 01:01:43 | |
| auditor. | 01:01:47 | |
| Sheriff who's currently Sheriff Bush, a commissioner appointee, which would be Mr. Sharp. | 01:01:51 | |
| And then the current county prosecutor, which is Mr. Lane. | 01:01:57 | |
| As you guys know. | 01:02:01 | |
| Requests are brought forward. | 01:02:03 | |
| They're considered. | 01:02:04 | |
| Approved or denied, brought towards the Commissioners and then the appropriations brought to you. | 01:02:06 | |
| So you're seeing training again and that is because we've approved additional training. | 01:02:10 | |
| For an APD detective later on this year. | 01:02:15 | |
| And for the first time ever, an ISP detective. | 01:02:18 | |
| So the houses in this area are taking advantage. | 01:02:21 | |
| Of these funds that are available for additional training and new tools brought into the county, and I think it's a wonderful | 01:02:25 | |
| thing. | 01:02:28 | |
| The other is drug testing services that's to be used for testing of substances in the course of investigations. | 01:02:31 | |
| Specific to you. | 01:02:37 | |
| Drug investigations. | 01:02:39 | |
| Move to approve 5B. | 01:02:41 | |
| 2nd. | 01:02:43 | |
| We have a motion and a second for 5B. | 01:02:45 | |
| Further questions Who controls those drug testing? | 01:02:47 | |
| If it's for case specific. | 01:02:50 | |
| So right now that process is going through the prosecutor's office. | 01:02:53 | |
| So it is under Floyd County control. | 01:02:59 | |
| All right, all in favor, say aye. | 01:03:05 | |
| Aye, any opposed? | 01:03:07 | |
| That carries. | 01:03:09 | |
| So C is. | 01:03:12 | |
| The request for the additional appropriation that was discussed. | 01:03:14 | |
| At the. | 01:03:18 | |
| Last meeting. | 01:03:21 | |
| That everyone gave a consensus of. | 01:03:22 | |
| To support to begin working on the. | 01:03:24 | |
| Digitizing project. I will say that Susannah Worrell and I have met. | 01:03:27 | |
| With Miss Bailey. | 01:03:31 | |
| Recently and we actually have another teams meeting with her tomorrow. | 01:03:33 | |
| SBS has been. | 01:03:37 | |
| Amazing and they're. | 01:03:39 | |
| I think you guys are going to be really pleased with the results of this project. I'll make a motion to approve 5. | 01:03:43 | |
| 2nd. | 01:03:48 | |
| We have a motion and a second for. | 01:03:50 | |
| 5C. | 01:03:52 | |
| So I, I was under the understanding that we were in a position where we were, we were fully funding for the county. | 01:03:55 | |
| For county general. | 01:04:04 | |
| And it looks like from what page? | 01:04:06 | |
| Just showed us we are going to be 1,000,001 short. So that's for next year. 2027. Yes ma'am. | 01:04:09 | |
| And we actually would have been that this year without the diligent work that the council did to shuffle costs around. | 01:04:17 | |
| I was thinking this was 2020. | 01:04:23 | |
| Six, No, ma'am, that's next year's projection without any, without any movements on your old's behalf and that we're going into | 01:04:26 | |
| the 2027 with $1,000,000. | 01:04:31 | |
| Yes, and I have every confidence that this council will make sure that we're fully funded before we exit budget season this year. | 01:04:39 | |
| OK, so. | 01:04:45 | |
| I guess you we're just putting it in this line. | 01:04:48 | |
| So that. | 01:04:52 | |
| As invoices. | 01:04:53 | |
| Correct. It would be a lot more arduous if we had it split up between 5 different budgets. So you will agree to just place it in | 01:04:54 | |
| one budgetary line since I'm the lead on the project anyways. | 01:05:00 | |
| So it's not like that amounts going out tomorrow morning. | 01:05:06 | |
| No Sir, that goes out as stages are completed. | 01:05:08 | |
| All right, any further discussion? | 01:05:13 | |
| All in favor say aye aye. | 01:05:17 | |
| Any opposed? | 01:05:19 | |
| That carries. | 01:05:21 | |
| You get to scan them. | 01:05:22 | |
| Semi Semi. | 01:05:25 | |
| They're well and sure, OK. | 01:05:26 | |
| 6A Is ordinance for additional appropriations for this evening Ordinance 2020? | 01:05:34 | |
| 26-11. | 01:05:39 | |
| I'll make a motion. Approve 6A. | 01:05:41 | |
| 2nd, I have a motion and a second any discussion on our? | 01:05:42 | |
| Appropriations. | 01:05:46 | |
| All in favor say aye aye. | 01:05:48 | |
| Any opposed? | 01:05:50 | |
| Is there anyone from the public that would like to speak this evening? | 01:05:52 | |
| Sidney had a leg cramp. | 01:06:02 | |
| Anyone on council have any? | 01:06:04 | |
| Committee reports or anything to update on? | 01:06:06 | |
| I just like to now talk about to put up with me for at least a minimum. | 01:06:10 | |
| Without us. Happy to have it in my race. | 01:06:14 | |
| Happy to have you. | 01:06:17 | |
| Focused on county business. | 01:06:19 | |
| Anybody else? | 01:06:23 | |
| All right, entertain a motion. I'll make a motion to adjourn. | 01:06:26 | |
| 2nd. | 01:06:29 | |
| All in favor. | 01:06:30 | |
| Aye, adjourned. | 01:06:31 | |
| Don't leave. There's paperwork side. | 01:06:35 |