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| So he needed a float penny twitchers to order. | 00:00:00 | |
| And we had our. | 00:00:03 | |
| Hours of advertising. So do I need this on for recording purposes? | 00:00:05 | |
| Probably so I just there's a little bit of an echo, but. | 00:00:11 | |
| We'll start with the Pledge of Allegiance. | 00:00:14 | |
| I pledge allegiance to the flag. | 00:00:17 | |
| Of the United States of America. | 00:00:19 | |
| Into the Republic for which it stands. | 00:00:21 | |
| One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:24 | |
| All right, we have. | 00:00:30 | |
| Two items relating to one another. | 00:00:31 | |
| And. | 00:00:34 | |
| Both are under uh. | 00:00:36 | |
| The auspices of Mr. Kent Barrow, EMA Director, SO. | 00:00:38 | |
| Kent, turn it over to you. Yeah, just to give you a little bit of information, Code Red. | 00:00:42 | |
| Was attacked, cyber attack. | 00:00:48 | |
| Their platform went down November the 8th. | 00:00:50 | |
| We were notified on November the 18th. | 00:00:54 | |
| Through a third party. | 00:00:56 | |
| We started making contact with Code Red. | 00:01:00 | |
| Through their. | 00:01:03 | |
| This department and basically we're getting no answers as to. | 00:01:05 | |
| Why or how they were going to switch us over to a new platform? | 00:01:10 | |
| We were going to lose the automatic National Weather Service calls. | 00:01:14 | |
| I pause several other automatic alerts that go out. | 00:01:18 | |
| So we then proceeded to start contacting. | 00:01:23 | |
| Some other companies ever bridge was the one that. | 00:01:26 | |
| Basically stood out. | 00:01:30 | |
| They're willing to do this for a dollar. | 00:01:32 | |
| A year or until we can get out of the contract. | 00:01:37 | |
| Um, so. | 00:01:42 | |
| There they understand the need, the purpose. | 00:01:44 | |
| We've used every bridge in the past, so it shouldn't be too hard of a. | 00:01:47 | |
| Changeover, there's approximately, they're telling us there's approximately 85. | 00:01:51 | |
| 1000. | 00:01:56 | |
| Phone lines and mobile lines in Floyd County that they can automatically. | 00:01:57 | |
| Grab and pull over to our platform and our. | 00:02:02 | |
| Our system. | 00:02:06 | |
| I so. | 00:02:09 | |
| Obviously, I think that. | 00:02:11 | |
| We need to do this for the urgency of having a way of. | 00:02:14 | |
| Notifying the public in a emergency situation. | 00:02:17 | |
| Hopefully what our. | 00:02:22 | |
| Contacts been telling us with everbridge is probably. | 00:02:25 | |
| Because tomorrow's Thanksgiving, obviously Friday, they can probably have us up and. | 00:02:28 | |
| Online and then they're going to start doing some training with Jason. | 00:02:33 | |
| Who's taken over the net last notification system since Tammy has? | 00:02:37 | |
| Left us so. | 00:02:42 | |
| That's kind of where we're at. I sent some verbiage to Christy for. | 00:02:46 | |
| Terminating our contract with Code Red. | 00:02:53 | |
| In 2000 and. | 00:02:56 | |
| Down 4. | 00:02:59 | |
| 2024. | 00:03:03 | |
| We paid code Red. | 00:03:06 | |
| $60,000 for three-year contract. | 00:03:08 | |
| 60,007. | 00:03:11 | |
| 5626. | 00:03:13 | |
| So I've kind of done some prorating. I don't know if my math was correct. | 00:03:15 | |
| But I was looking at November. | 00:03:19 | |
| December, January, February, March of 26. | 00:03:21 | |
| Asking for a refund of 7000 some dollars and then the year of 26 March 26 to March 27. | 00:03:25 | |
| For the 20,252 that we paid. | 00:03:32 | |
| So. | 00:03:35 | |
| You know, and I don't know you, I'm sure you put your. | 00:03:36 | |
| Yeah, I've made some revisions and so. | 00:03:40 | |
| I made some revisions and forwarded that. That's what you have in front of you is the revised version of that. | 00:03:42 | |
| Letter and asking them to forward the refund amount back to the Flake County Commissioners. | 00:03:47 | |
| So did we get a better deal by paying? | 00:03:52 | |
| A year in advance on the. | 00:03:56 | |
| Initial contract code red, yes, I believe we got a little bit better, cheaper price. That's why we went ahead and did that. | 00:03:58 | |
| OK, it was 24. | 00:04:05 | |
| Slept since then, but they paid all three years at once it sounds like Yes. OK. | 00:04:07 | |
| And we cannot predict the likelihood of getting any of this back. | 00:04:12 | |
| Correct. I can't. I mean from the perspective that obviously we believe they've breached the contract and they should let us out | 00:04:17 | |
| of it and refund. | 00:04:21 | |
| What has not been used yet, which would be from the November 8th date forward. | 00:04:26 | |
| OK. But there's been no admission on their part that they breached the contract? Not to my knowledge. They have sent out some. | 00:04:30 | |
| Language and I. | 00:04:38 | |
| Printed it off and I was going to give you a copy of it just so that you could add. Yeah, that'd be great. | 00:04:40 | |
| Basically admitting that they've been attacked and. | 00:04:46 | |
| Yesterday I think we got some information that some of the. | 00:04:50 | |
| Customers are. | 00:04:54 | |
| My customers some of the. | 00:04:56 | |
| A county residences information, the phone number at e-mail addresses. | 00:04:59 | |
| Things like that. That was in the system that they put in. | 00:05:03 | |
| Has been compromised. | 00:05:07 | |
| Umm, so you know we're. | 00:05:09 | |
| With your advice and Christies advice, do we want to put that out there that people need to change passwords and things like that? | 00:05:13 | |
| In the form of. | 00:05:21 | |
| But we have switched over to Everbridge and. | 00:05:23 | |
| When you say they were. | 00:05:27 | |
| They were compromised. | 00:05:29 | |
| Their platform was. | 00:05:32 | |
| So like if they had my phone number, that's the only thing they have. | 00:05:34 | |
| This is my phone number. | 00:05:38 | |
| Phone number necklace. | 00:05:39 | |
| Give me additional spam calls that I get every day, right? | 00:05:41 | |
| OK. | 00:05:45 | |
| Passwords. The password that you used, whoever, whatever you used to sign up for Code Red. | 00:05:48 | |
| They have their own password. | 00:05:54 | |
| So if they use that password on. | 00:05:56 | |
| Anything else? | 00:05:58 | |
| That might be. | 00:06:00 | |
| Anish. | 00:06:01 | |
| But it's still only linked to their phone number. | 00:06:03 | |
| I mean, no, nobody puts their Social Security numbers or anything like that into the system. | 00:06:06 | |
| Yeah, I don't know that. | 00:06:12 | |
| Based on that, I don't know that it would be worth. | 00:06:14 | |
| I don't want notifying the public that they may have been compromised when the only thing that would have been compromised was | 00:06:17 | |
| their. | 00:06:21 | |
| Phone number. | 00:06:25 | |
| And Code Red is sitting it out. I mean there's. | 00:06:26 | |
| I've seen some press releases and stuff that they're they've sent out. | 00:06:29 | |
| Saying the same thing so. | 00:06:32 | |
| Do we have an obligation, beyond mentioning this in a public meeting to notify it? | 00:06:35 | |
| Their EMA can most certainly add to their. I think you guys have a Facebook blast and some social media things and adding the Code | 00:06:40 | |
| Red notices that they're sending that we're passing on the exact same message not to. | 00:06:46 | |
| 'Cause any major concerns but. | 00:06:52 | |
| I didn't even realize there was a password associated with signing up for the Code Red system. I didn't either. | 00:06:55 | |
| So and that amount is correct, it's $1.00. | 00:07:01 | |
| Annually or was it a dollar a month? It's going to be $1.00 from now until either March or if we get out of this contract then we | 00:07:05 | |
| would start paying. | 00:07:10 | |
| That amount that you see on the first page of the Everbridge contract, whichever date comes sooner, getting out for March. | 00:07:15 | |
| Page. The second page. | 00:07:21 | |
| It's number two. Number two it's. | 00:07:23 | |
| It states in there a dollar per contract year. | 00:07:25 | |
| So we would, if we go, if it takes us till 27 to get out of it, we're going to pay. | 00:07:30 | |
| I guess you'd end up pay, yeah. | 00:07:35 | |
| For 26 from now until. | 00:07:36 | |
| Follow 26 and then a half a year. | 00:07:38 | |
| Dollar $52. | 00:07:40 | |
| OK, so one other question. | 00:07:42 | |
| At present, so if. | 00:07:45 | |
| We make the switch. | 00:07:47 | |
| And we don't recoup. | 00:07:49 | |
| Anything from code Red we may be out roughly $30,000. | 00:07:50 | |
| But we do have cyber insurance. | 00:07:55 | |
| Is there any way to see whether or not? | 00:07:57 | |
| That this might justify a claim on that, that technically we're losing $30,000 because of a cyber event, so. | 00:07:59 | |
| We most certainly could approach that and see what that looks like. | 00:08:05 | |
| Either their insurance or ours should cover it from what I'm understanding because I mean there is states. | 00:08:08 | |
| Not just counties, but states, the state of Oklahoma. | 00:08:16 | |
| Over it Arizona uses Code Red. That's just a couple I know of. | 00:08:19 | |
| And there and the counties within those states are using. | 00:08:25 | |
| And there's. | 00:08:29 | |
| Douglas County in Arizona, that is. | 00:08:31 | |
| They're the ones. | 00:08:34 | |
| Found out. | 00:08:36 | |
| On November 8th, they were sending out a test message. | 00:08:37 | |
| Like they do monthly or? | 00:08:41 | |
| Quarterly. | 00:08:43 | |
| And realized. | 00:08:44 | |
| They couldn't. | 00:08:45 | |
| Get into their platform. | 00:08:47 | |
| So they notified Code Red. | 00:08:48 | |
| They're the ones that found it. | 00:08:50 | |
| And so they're, you know. | 00:08:53 | |
| From what I understand, there's. | 00:08:54 | |
| Other We're not the only county that's asking for a. | 00:08:56 | |
| Refund. | 00:08:59 | |
| It's going to do one of two things. It's either going to bankrupt them. | 00:09:00 | |
| Or they'll figure out how to. | 00:09:04 | |
| Move forward with it, right, OK. | 00:09:06 | |
| I think they're obligated to. | 00:09:09 | |
| Return our money. | 00:09:10 | |
| Do you think they would have been obligated to let us know that there was an issue? You would have thought that, yes. | 00:09:12 | |
| Yeah, yeah. | 00:09:17 | |
| Any other questions? Send out a message that they could. | 00:09:19 | |
| And the only thing other thing I would. | 00:09:23 | |
| Say is Ken, if you can just make sure to calendar it because it's only a one year contract, so. | 00:09:25 | |
| Obviously looking at this again. | 00:09:29 | |
| Next November. | 00:09:32 | |
| Probably earlier than that. | 00:09:33 | |
| Let's call it September, late September to make sure that we're. | 00:09:34 | |
| On top of renewal or whatever that looks like. | 00:09:37 | |
| Which I'm sure Everbridge will. | 00:09:40 | |
| All right. | 00:09:43 | |
| So, all right, any other questions or comments, discussion? | 00:09:45 | |
| If not, I'll look for approval of item 1A approval to allow Kent Barrow to sign the termination letter to end Code Red contract. | 00:09:49 | |
| Make a motion to approve. | 00:09:57 | |
| Second, all in favor, aye. And item 1B, approval of contract with Everbridge for $1.00. | 00:09:58 | |
| Per annum until the Code Red contract ends. | 00:10:06 | |
| Motion to approve. | 00:10:09 | |
| 2nd. | 00:10:10 | |
| All in favor, aye? | 00:10:11 | |
| All right, our next meeting will be Tuesday, December 2nd, 2025 at 6:00 PM. | 00:10:14 | |
| Happy Thanksgiving to all. Any other comments? | 00:10:19 | |
| Motion adjourn. | 00:10:22 | |
| Motion to adjourn. | 00:10:23 | |
| Frank's not going against that, So. | 00:10:26 |
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| So he needed a float penny twitchers to order. | 00:00:00 | |
| And we had our. | 00:00:03 | |
| Hours of advertising. So do I need this on for recording purposes? | 00:00:05 | |
| Probably so I just there's a little bit of an echo, but. | 00:00:11 | |
| We'll start with the Pledge of Allegiance. | 00:00:14 | |
| I pledge allegiance to the flag. | 00:00:17 | |
| Of the United States of America. | 00:00:19 | |
| Into the Republic for which it stands. | 00:00:21 | |
| One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:24 | |
| All right, we have. | 00:00:30 | |
| Two items relating to one another. | 00:00:31 | |
| And. | 00:00:34 | |
| Both are under uh. | 00:00:36 | |
| The auspices of Mr. Kent Barrow, EMA Director, SO. | 00:00:38 | |
| Kent, turn it over to you. Yeah, just to give you a little bit of information, Code Red. | 00:00:42 | |
| Was attacked, cyber attack. | 00:00:48 | |
| Their platform went down November the 8th. | 00:00:50 | |
| We were notified on November the 18th. | 00:00:54 | |
| Through a third party. | 00:00:56 | |
| We started making contact with Code Red. | 00:01:00 | |
| Through their. | 00:01:03 | |
| This department and basically we're getting no answers as to. | 00:01:05 | |
| Why or how they were going to switch us over to a new platform? | 00:01:10 | |
| We were going to lose the automatic National Weather Service calls. | 00:01:14 | |
| I pause several other automatic alerts that go out. | 00:01:18 | |
| So we then proceeded to start contacting. | 00:01:23 | |
| Some other companies ever bridge was the one that. | 00:01:26 | |
| Basically stood out. | 00:01:30 | |
| They're willing to do this for a dollar. | 00:01:32 | |
| A year or until we can get out of the contract. | 00:01:37 | |
| Um, so. | 00:01:42 | |
| There they understand the need, the purpose. | 00:01:44 | |
| We've used every bridge in the past, so it shouldn't be too hard of a. | 00:01:47 | |
| Changeover, there's approximately, they're telling us there's approximately 85. | 00:01:51 | |
| 1000. | 00:01:56 | |
| Phone lines and mobile lines in Floyd County that they can automatically. | 00:01:57 | |
| Grab and pull over to our platform and our. | 00:02:02 | |
| Our system. | 00:02:06 | |
| I so. | 00:02:09 | |
| Obviously, I think that. | 00:02:11 | |
| We need to do this for the urgency of having a way of. | 00:02:14 | |
| Notifying the public in a emergency situation. | 00:02:17 | |
| Hopefully what our. | 00:02:22 | |
| Contacts been telling us with everbridge is probably. | 00:02:25 | |
| Because tomorrow's Thanksgiving, obviously Friday, they can probably have us up and. | 00:02:28 | |
| Online and then they're going to start doing some training with Jason. | 00:02:33 | |
| Who's taken over the net last notification system since Tammy has? | 00:02:37 | |
| Left us so. | 00:02:42 | |
| That's kind of where we're at. I sent some verbiage to Christy for. | 00:02:46 | |
| Terminating our contract with Code Red. | 00:02:53 | |
| In 2000 and. | 00:02:56 | |
| Down 4. | 00:02:59 | |
| 2024. | 00:03:03 | |
| We paid code Red. | 00:03:06 | |
| $60,000 for three-year contract. | 00:03:08 | |
| 60,007. | 00:03:11 | |
| 5626. | 00:03:13 | |
| So I've kind of done some prorating. I don't know if my math was correct. | 00:03:15 | |
| But I was looking at November. | 00:03:19 | |
| December, January, February, March of 26. | 00:03:21 | |
| Asking for a refund of 7000 some dollars and then the year of 26 March 26 to March 27. | 00:03:25 | |
| For the 20,252 that we paid. | 00:03:32 | |
| So. | 00:03:35 | |
| You know, and I don't know you, I'm sure you put your. | 00:03:36 | |
| Yeah, I've made some revisions and so. | 00:03:40 | |
| I made some revisions and forwarded that. That's what you have in front of you is the revised version of that. | 00:03:42 | |
| Letter and asking them to forward the refund amount back to the Flake County Commissioners. | 00:03:47 | |
| So did we get a better deal by paying? | 00:03:52 | |
| A year in advance on the. | 00:03:56 | |
| Initial contract code red, yes, I believe we got a little bit better, cheaper price. That's why we went ahead and did that. | 00:03:58 | |
| OK, it was 24. | 00:04:05 | |
| Slept since then, but they paid all three years at once it sounds like Yes. OK. | 00:04:07 | |
| And we cannot predict the likelihood of getting any of this back. | 00:04:12 | |
| Correct. I can't. I mean from the perspective that obviously we believe they've breached the contract and they should let us out | 00:04:17 | |
| of it and refund. | 00:04:21 | |
| What has not been used yet, which would be from the November 8th date forward. | 00:04:26 | |
| OK. But there's been no admission on their part that they breached the contract? Not to my knowledge. They have sent out some. | 00:04:30 | |
| Language and I. | 00:04:38 | |
| Printed it off and I was going to give you a copy of it just so that you could add. Yeah, that'd be great. | 00:04:40 | |
| Basically admitting that they've been attacked and. | 00:04:46 | |
| Yesterday I think we got some information that some of the. | 00:04:50 | |
| Customers are. | 00:04:54 | |
| My customers some of the. | 00:04:56 | |
| A county residences information, the phone number at e-mail addresses. | 00:04:59 | |
| Things like that. That was in the system that they put in. | 00:05:03 | |
| Has been compromised. | 00:05:07 | |
| Umm, so you know we're. | 00:05:09 | |
| With your advice and Christies advice, do we want to put that out there that people need to change passwords and things like that? | 00:05:13 | |
| In the form of. | 00:05:21 | |
| But we have switched over to Everbridge and. | 00:05:23 | |
| When you say they were. | 00:05:27 | |
| They were compromised. | 00:05:29 | |
| Their platform was. | 00:05:32 | |
| So like if they had my phone number, that's the only thing they have. | 00:05:34 | |
| This is my phone number. | 00:05:38 | |
| Phone number necklace. | 00:05:39 | |
| Give me additional spam calls that I get every day, right? | 00:05:41 | |
| OK. | 00:05:45 | |
| Passwords. The password that you used, whoever, whatever you used to sign up for Code Red. | 00:05:48 | |
| They have their own password. | 00:05:54 | |
| So if they use that password on. | 00:05:56 | |
| Anything else? | 00:05:58 | |
| That might be. | 00:06:00 | |
| Anish. | 00:06:01 | |
| But it's still only linked to their phone number. | 00:06:03 | |
| I mean, no, nobody puts their Social Security numbers or anything like that into the system. | 00:06:06 | |
| Yeah, I don't know that. | 00:06:12 | |
| Based on that, I don't know that it would be worth. | 00:06:14 | |
| I don't want notifying the public that they may have been compromised when the only thing that would have been compromised was | 00:06:17 | |
| their. | 00:06:21 | |
| Phone number. | 00:06:25 | |
| And Code Red is sitting it out. I mean there's. | 00:06:26 | |
| I've seen some press releases and stuff that they're they've sent out. | 00:06:29 | |
| Saying the same thing so. | 00:06:32 | |
| Do we have an obligation, beyond mentioning this in a public meeting to notify it? | 00:06:35 | |
| Their EMA can most certainly add to their. I think you guys have a Facebook blast and some social media things and adding the Code | 00:06:40 | |
| Red notices that they're sending that we're passing on the exact same message not to. | 00:06:46 | |
| 'Cause any major concerns but. | 00:06:52 | |
| I didn't even realize there was a password associated with signing up for the Code Red system. I didn't either. | 00:06:55 | |
| So and that amount is correct, it's $1.00. | 00:07:01 | |
| Annually or was it a dollar a month? It's going to be $1.00 from now until either March or if we get out of this contract then we | 00:07:05 | |
| would start paying. | 00:07:10 | |
| That amount that you see on the first page of the Everbridge contract, whichever date comes sooner, getting out for March. | 00:07:15 | |
| Page. The second page. | 00:07:21 | |
| It's number two. Number two it's. | 00:07:23 | |
| It states in there a dollar per contract year. | 00:07:25 | |
| So we would, if we go, if it takes us till 27 to get out of it, we're going to pay. | 00:07:30 | |
| I guess you'd end up pay, yeah. | 00:07:35 | |
| For 26 from now until. | 00:07:36 | |
| Follow 26 and then a half a year. | 00:07:38 | |
| Dollar $52. | 00:07:40 | |
| OK, so one other question. | 00:07:42 | |
| At present, so if. | 00:07:45 | |
| We make the switch. | 00:07:47 | |
| And we don't recoup. | 00:07:49 | |
| Anything from code Red we may be out roughly $30,000. | 00:07:50 | |
| But we do have cyber insurance. | 00:07:55 | |
| Is there any way to see whether or not? | 00:07:57 | |
| That this might justify a claim on that, that technically we're losing $30,000 because of a cyber event, so. | 00:07:59 | |
| We most certainly could approach that and see what that looks like. | 00:08:05 | |
| Either their insurance or ours should cover it from what I'm understanding because I mean there is states. | 00:08:08 | |
| Not just counties, but states, the state of Oklahoma. | 00:08:16 | |
| Over it Arizona uses Code Red. That's just a couple I know of. | 00:08:19 | |
| And there and the counties within those states are using. | 00:08:25 | |
| And there's. | 00:08:29 | |
| Douglas County in Arizona, that is. | 00:08:31 | |
| They're the ones. | 00:08:34 | |
| Found out. | 00:08:36 | |
| On November 8th, they were sending out a test message. | 00:08:37 | |
| Like they do monthly or? | 00:08:41 | |
| Quarterly. | 00:08:43 | |
| And realized. | 00:08:44 | |
| They couldn't. | 00:08:45 | |
| Get into their platform. | 00:08:47 | |
| So they notified Code Red. | 00:08:48 | |
| They're the ones that found it. | 00:08:50 | |
| And so they're, you know. | 00:08:53 | |
| From what I understand, there's. | 00:08:54 | |
| Other We're not the only county that's asking for a. | 00:08:56 | |
| Refund. | 00:08:59 | |
| It's going to do one of two things. It's either going to bankrupt them. | 00:09:00 | |
| Or they'll figure out how to. | 00:09:04 | |
| Move forward with it, right, OK. | 00:09:06 | |
| I think they're obligated to. | 00:09:09 | |
| Return our money. | 00:09:10 | |
| Do you think they would have been obligated to let us know that there was an issue? You would have thought that, yes. | 00:09:12 | |
| Yeah, yeah. | 00:09:17 | |
| Any other questions? Send out a message that they could. | 00:09:19 | |
| And the only thing other thing I would. | 00:09:23 | |
| Say is Ken, if you can just make sure to calendar it because it's only a one year contract, so. | 00:09:25 | |
| Obviously looking at this again. | 00:09:29 | |
| Next November. | 00:09:32 | |
| Probably earlier than that. | 00:09:33 | |
| Let's call it September, late September to make sure that we're. | 00:09:34 | |
| On top of renewal or whatever that looks like. | 00:09:37 | |
| Which I'm sure Everbridge will. | 00:09:40 | |
| All right. | 00:09:43 | |
| So, all right, any other questions or comments, discussion? | 00:09:45 | |
| If not, I'll look for approval of item 1A approval to allow Kent Barrow to sign the termination letter to end Code Red contract. | 00:09:49 | |
| Make a motion to approve. | 00:09:57 | |
| Second, all in favor, aye. And item 1B, approval of contract with Everbridge for $1.00. | 00:09:58 | |
| Per annum until the Code Red contract ends. | 00:10:06 | |
| Motion to approve. | 00:10:09 | |
| 2nd. | 00:10:10 | |
| All in favor, aye? | 00:10:11 | |
| All right, our next meeting will be Tuesday, December 2nd, 2025 at 6:00 PM. | 00:10:14 | |
| Happy Thanksgiving to all. Any other comments? | 00:10:19 | |
| Motion adjourn. | 00:10:22 | |
| Motion to adjourn. | 00:10:23 | |
| Frank's not going against that, So. | 00:10:26 |