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All right. 00:00:08
Good afternoon. We call this meeting of the Flick County Solid Waste. 00:00:13
Board of Directors to order if you would rise and join the pledge. 00:00:17
Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. 00:00:22
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 00:00:26
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:30
Alright. 00:00:35
Looks like we have. 00:00:46
Doctor Canable myself. 00:00:48
Dale and Franklin are all present. Everybody else. 00:00:50
Unable to attend tonight. 00:00:53
For the record, can we just? 00:00:56
Say who those are that are not here, Certainly. 00:00:57
Adam Dickey. 00:01:01
Mayor Giddy Hand. 00:01:02
And. 00:01:04
Brandon Health. 00:01:05
So we have a core, we do have a quorum. 00:01:07
Yes, thank you. Yes, Sir. 00:01:09
Looking for approval of the September 16th minutes please. Some of. 00:01:12
2nd. 00:01:16
Got a motion in a second, any discussion? 00:01:17
All in favor signify by saying aye aye. 00:01:20
Any opposed? 00:01:23
That cares. 00:01:24
Approval Approval of the October. 00:01:27
Provisional claims. 00:01:30
So moved. 00:01:32
Second, OK, I got a motion by Doctor Canable and a second by Mr. Loop. 00:01:34
Any further discussion? 00:01:39
All in favor signify by saying. 00:01:41
Aye, any opposed? 00:01:44
That carries. 00:01:45
Approval, November claims. 00:01:47
Motion to approve. 00:01:49
Motion by Doctor Naval, second by. 00:01:53
Councilman Bagshaw. 00:01:55
Any further discussion? 00:01:58
All in favor signify by saying aye. 00:02:00
Aye. 00:02:02
Any opposed? 00:02:03
That carries. 00:02:04
And looking for approval of Resolution 2025-06, the amended exhibit for the vendor lists. 00:02:06
So moved. 00:02:13
OK, got a motion by Commissioner Loop and a second by Councilman Bagshaw. Any further discussion? 00:02:15
All in favor signify by saying aye. 00:02:22
Aye, any opposed? 00:02:24
That carries. 00:02:26
Directors report. 00:02:28
And here's your. 00:02:34
Oh, thank you. 00:02:38
Good evening. 00:02:41
November 18th Directors report. 00:02:44
Marketing and communications. 00:02:47
We had a little bit over 1000 active users. All were new users, a lot of new people in their websites. 00:02:50
Operation initiatives. 00:02:56
Traffic. 00:02:58
Count October 4501. 00:02:59
Which is an increase. 00:03:04
From 4004 to 47 last month. 00:03:06
Total recycling volume for. 00:03:09
October 68, tons. 00:03:12
Which is up from 62 tons last month. 00:03:14
Year to date comparisons. 00:03:17
Highlights. 00:03:20
9.2% increase in total. 00:03:22
Of recycled product volume. 00:03:25
4.48 Increase in year to date. 00:03:27
Traffic count volume. 00:03:30
17.29. 00:03:32
Percent increase in cardboard volume. 00:03:34
And 16.28% increase in. 00:03:37
Service income year to date. 00:03:41
HW. 00:03:45
As of probably a week ago. 00:03:47
We are pretty much cleaned out of all of our. 00:03:50
Oil based product. 00:03:54
And hazardous waste. 00:03:56
OK. So that's for the year. So we're done with HSW this year. 00:03:58
No product on site. 00:04:02
The only thing that we have left to get rid of is. 00:04:04
The remainder of CRT TV's that will get. 00:04:08
Between now and the end of the year. 00:04:11
Light bulbs in batteries. 00:04:13
So. 00:04:15
We have a question on that if I'm if. 00:04:18
That this was already taken care of at a previous meeting, and I apologize, but Once Upon a time there were. 00:04:20
So 50 gallon drums out there and nobody knew the contents of those, OK. 00:04:25
Figure. Figure out what the Congress were. 00:04:30
Just curiosity. 00:04:32
I think it was deemed that everything was it was hazardous, hazardous waste, but not. 00:04:34
Not dangerous, it was not what? 00:04:40
People thought it was. 00:04:42
OK, I don't even know what people thought it was. 00:04:43
At one time I think their mind went to the worst possible scenario, you know, spent uranium rods or something. Yeah, we everything 00:04:47
that was cleaned up earlier in the first ship this year, OK. 00:04:52
That's what I thought, all the leftover from the last. 00:04:58
Whatever was left when I took over. 00:05:01
Everything is gone. 00:05:03
OK, no hazardous waste on site. 00:05:05
So staffing. 00:05:13
Currently have. 00:05:16
I think 2:00 to 3:00 volunteers that we're getting from. 00:05:17
Corrections. 00:05:21
That kind of varies week to week. 00:05:22
We are currently at. 00:05:24
Employees. 00:05:27
We went through the SBOA audit. 00:05:31
This year I know Jason was part of the excellent review. 00:05:34
We did have some prior eras, but those all have been fixed. 00:05:38
All current employees. 00:05:43
Training. 00:05:45
Is complete what was required? 00:05:46
So the audit has been closed. 00:05:49
And we're moving forward. 00:05:51
We just need to complete the 2025 salary ordinance and that's in progress, right? 00:05:53
Can you say it's closed out accepting for that shows that yes, yes, yeah. 00:05:59
See, he's asking for paperwork showing that it's closed out. 00:06:06
Yes. 00:06:09
Yeah, we have an e-mail that can be forwarded to you with. 00:06:10
In terms of. 00:06:14
Movie, The Followers and latest. 00:06:17
You know, like the last three years of salary Arkansas. 00:06:20
You know, a bunch of things. 00:06:25
I got an e-mail confirmation that says. 00:06:27
Yeah, yeah. So we don't have to, we don't have to backtrack. 00:06:38
Right. Yes, that's pretty much what that is, yes. 00:06:41
Perfect. 00:06:45
OK. 00:06:46
So. 00:06:49
Budget versus actual for the year. 00:06:51
At this point in time, we should be at 83.3%. We're at 71. 00:06:55
So we're 12% under budget. 00:06:59
I really don't need to go through. 00:07:05
All that. 00:07:06
So that's the good news. So we're running under budget right now. 00:07:09
With that being said, that's pretty much all of the. 00:07:14
You have the directors. 00:07:18
So as outlined on the. 00:07:21
On the agenda, there's a. 00:07:23
A line here for the 2026 budget. As you all know, we had a. 00:07:25
A meeting that we had to cancel, reschedule so. 00:07:29
The budget approval process was already a little bit. 00:07:32
Messed up this year. The budget's already been submitted to the County Council for approval. 00:07:35
But this board has never voted on. 00:07:40
Approving this budget, Rick. 00:07:44
Would you recommend that we go ahead and? 00:07:45
Look to approve. 00:07:47
Their budget as a board tonight or do we not need? 00:07:48
Do that since it's already been approved by the council. 00:07:51
The Council has already approved the budget. 00:07:55
You're done. 00:08:02
It's their job. 00:08:03
All right. 00:08:05
Anyone have any further questions? 00:08:07
Mr. Massengill. 00:08:09
What's left on the agenda? 00:08:12
For the rest of the evening we've got the. 00:08:13
The remaining 2025 funds which he had an open question there about what happens to the remaining funds leftover and solid waste 00:08:15
and. 00:08:19
And with the 2026 mentioning that I just. 00:08:24
If you're open for new business, then I've. 00:08:26
Yeah, if you want to bring something up, you're more welcome to do. Pretty much wrapped up with the agenda outside of public 00:08:28
comment. 00:08:31
OK, so. 00:08:34
You know, we've been living that kind of in this. 00:08:36
Gray area since we had the initial vote. 00:08:38
To move towards. 00:08:42
Dissolution of the solid waste. 00:08:43
District. 00:08:45
And we've kind of. 00:08:47
I think we've been either. 00:08:49
Indirectly or directly? 00:08:51
Kept from commenting on that too much because we've been taking a lot of public input. 00:08:53
On this and really haven't. 00:08:58
We can't really have hallway discussions on this type of stuff because it ends up becoming a quorum or something, so I want to 00:09:01
take the opportunity tonight to just bring forward some thoughts. 00:09:04
That I've had on this which is. 00:09:09
I mean if you read the the. 00:09:15
You know the tea leaves? It looks like the. 00:09:17
When the vote comes to dissolve the district, which is the management part of this? 00:09:19
The commissioners can't act on that until mid. 00:09:24
To late December, whenever that. 00:09:27
180 days. 00:09:29
Rolls out and completes. I think it was either the 15th or the 17th. I don't want to be quoted on it because I don't have it 00:09:30
exactly, but somewhere. 00:09:33
Mid to late December and the Council has to have their second vote. 00:09:36
And we'll have to hold a public hearing on on. 00:09:41
This issue before we can have either of those votes. 00:09:44
But I think theirs is slated for somewhere in January. 00:09:46
So. 00:09:50
The obvious question is where do we go from here with regards to? 00:09:52
Recycling those types of things. So again. 00:09:55
My thought my. 00:09:57
My recommendation would I would like for. 00:09:59
This Board to consider forwarding to the Commission. 00:10:01
A plan that would. 00:10:05
Look at 2026 as kind of a transitional year. 00:10:07
There has been a budget that's been appropriated. 00:10:11
For recycling for 2026. 00:10:14
It's kind of an up to amount. 00:10:17
Or pay no more than that, if you will. 00:10:20
But I think that this board would put forward. 00:10:23
To the Commissioners. 00:10:26
A recommendation that the commissioners set the budget for 2026. 00:10:27
Use some of those resources that are already there. 00:10:31
I think. I think it's better to have a slow transition from. 00:10:35
The county providing these services to public entities providing these services rather than an abrupt. 00:10:40
Halt of such services we have an RFP out right now for. 00:10:46
Handling of household hazardous waste, which I think comes back the first week of December, something like that, and we'll see 00:10:50
what the interest is on that. 00:10:54
But right now we haven't had anybody from the private industry who looks like they want to jump in with both feet to take over all 00:10:58
of the services. 00:11:01
That. 00:11:05
The department. 00:11:07
Has provided so. 00:11:08
Again, reading the tea leaves, I would think that those votes are going to go forward. 00:11:12
To dissolve. 00:11:16
The uh. 00:11:17
Solid waste district. 00:11:18
But that doesn't. 00:11:20
Equate with eliminating all services. 00:11:21
Basically, whatever services would be provided would be brought under the purview authority of the commissioners. 00:11:24
And. 00:11:30
The You know Mr. Madison Gill, if he were to. 00:11:32
Want to carry on to that position would be the front runner for that to report directly to the commissioners and. 00:11:37
We would set the budget just like we do for the road department and anybody else. Again, I would still like to transition towards 00:11:42
more of these services being taken over. 00:11:46
By. 00:11:51
Consumer driven payment rather than government payment, but. 00:11:52
I don't think that's going to happen on January 1, 2026. I don't think it can happen. 00:11:57
The dissolution that ordinance looks. 00:12:02
To be relatively on read, it's going to take some time to kind of untie all of those knots anyway. 00:12:04
So Long story short is I'd like for us to. 00:12:10
To look at, 2026 is a year where there's going to be some level of services provided, but it's going to be under the management of 00:12:13
the commissioners rather than. 00:12:16
Formally by the district. That way we can. 00:12:20
I think. 00:12:22
Cut with regards to operations and and bring in payroll and. 00:12:23
Claims back towards the county under the auditor's office rather than. 00:12:28
The outside contractor. 00:12:33
And again. 00:12:35
Give private industry. 00:12:36
A chance to to kind of. 00:12:38
Jump in a little bit more than has happened thus far, so. 00:12:39
Those are my thoughts and I don't know whether we need formal action on that or not. Tonight. We probably don't because. 00:12:43
I would probably call for a formal vote on that from this board to go to the Commission. 00:12:49
At the December meeting. 00:12:53
And I'm sure we'll have more public. 00:12:55
Comment which is welcome. 00:12:57
On that and then we do have to have a public hearing before we go forward with either of those votes, so. 00:12:59
But again, there would be some level of service the budget would be reduced over. 00:13:04
2025, which I think the final expenditures for 2025 if I remember that SBOA account were. 00:13:09
Mid $600,000 or something like that. 00:13:16
No, the 2025 budget, the 2025 actual expenditures, the one that was just recently audited, the 2024. 00:13:19
Thought that was. 00:13:26
2025 budget was like 529, but 2024 I think there was the. 00:13:27
Yeah. 00:13:33
OK. I think it was like 640 or something like that. Yeah, I believe it was increased for some. 00:13:36
Budget or for some grant matching right or some equipment so it was elevated. 00:13:40
But anyway, but that's that's. 00:13:46
That's what I'm seeing for 2026. 00:13:47
So is there an RFP out for the private sector for. 00:13:51
Recycling. 00:13:55
There is for household hazardous waste. Yeah, I knew that, yeah. 00:13:56
Nothing else at this time, OK. 00:14:00
I didn't have a question, OK. 00:14:04
There were some discussions with regards to since we've sold the library. 00:14:06
By possibly using some of the land in the world department are. 00:14:11
Recycling. 00:14:16
And you have a gut feeling as to? 00:14:19
Whether or not. 00:14:24
Company would show up out at the road department at the recycling is out there. 00:14:25
In Georgetown. 00:14:31
I think you would see. 00:14:33
You know the community from that area, but I don't know about. 00:14:35
You know, the people that we see in New Albany, if they would drive all the way out to Georgetown. 00:14:39
And I'm not sure. 00:14:44
Well, I think he means like the people that are at Galena. 00:14:47
Do you think they would go toward Georgetown? 00:14:51
Not the new album, the. 00:14:54
The people you're getting in Galena are from New Albany. 00:14:55
Right. 00:14:58
We do see New Albany. 00:14:58
Residents at Galena. 00:15:00
I mean or at. 00:15:01
Grant line, yes, but in Galena. 00:15:03
Those are mainly people out in the county, correct? 00:15:07
That's Greenville residents, Yeah. Do you think that they would run over to Georgetown? 00:15:10
Maybe once they got used to it. I mean, do we have enough? 00:15:16
We'd see how important recycling was to him. Wouldn't. 00:15:19
Yeah, you would. I have to say that that. 00:15:22
Sydney, Maine has indicated that he thinks that the traffic patterns that that would produce would not be conducive to them doing 00:15:27
business at that particular site. 00:15:31
So it would have to be another. 00:15:35
And I was thinking more like we could use the unused portion of Nova. 00:15:36
Park. Yeah, there are options. 00:15:43
Yeah, absolutely. 00:15:44
It's just as part of our sales agreement, sell agreement. 00:15:46
Of that property to the Galena Library Board. 00:15:49
It was stipulated that our. Yeah. 00:15:52
Our operations there have to be discontinued. 00:15:53
But I thought that the library was all for us even there. 00:15:57
You can read the sale agreement. I mean that was that was negotiated by. 00:16:01
I think I think it's with his ear for when we sign. 00:16:07
But that was negotiated by that board and their attorney. 00:16:10
That was that came back to us two or three times that's. 00:16:14
Yeah. 00:16:17
So anyway, I don't open. 00:16:19
I welcome any comment or thought on it. Well, I guess. 00:16:21
My point of view. 00:16:24
Doctor Campbell is. 00:16:26
To be clear. 00:16:28
This vote. 00:16:30
What's the TV shoot reference? 00:16:31
Would be to dissolve this board. 00:16:33
Yes, only pretty much because we're not saying recycling is going to stop. 00:16:35
But this board will be dissolved, yes. 00:16:40
To be clear, I just want to be clear about that and another just. 00:16:43
A point you were in your. 00:16:46
Listeners would take over those responsibilities. That's. 00:16:49
And that's what the question was all about, you know, just. 00:16:51
Your gut feeling. 00:16:54
Where would another location? 00:16:55
Commissioners. 00:16:57
Yeah, we have to do a plan. OK, I understand that. But I just want to be clear, Reduce, we reduce a layer of bureaucracy. If 00:16:59
government, if there's people watching, to be clear, the only action right now is this board would be dissolved. 00:17:05
Possibly in the future. 00:17:12
Other things could happen as part of the commissioners. 00:17:13
Wishes at that time. 00:17:16
Correct. OK. But when you when you look at the nuts and bolts of it, that's all that the vote on the district dissolution over. 00:17:18
Right was. 00:17:24
So and another thing just. 00:17:26
Just a point you referenced, the money's been appropriated, the budget's been approved. 00:17:28
Money hadn't been a pro, thank you very much. 00:17:33
There's two different means of words, that's why we have a council member here. 00:17:35
So I concur with. 00:17:42
With Alan. 00:17:45
You know what we're doing here, and I think it is. It does make it clear. 00:17:48
When you say we're just. 00:17:53
Going to get rid of this board. 00:17:56
I've always been confused that the finances were not part of government to begin with and they should be. 00:17:58
And so on. 00:18:05
Happy that those finances and the control of those finances. 00:18:06
Are brought back into government. 00:18:11
The way they should be. 00:18:13
So and I also concur with. 00:18:15
Without with the fact that. 00:18:17
I think that if we abrupt. 00:18:19
Clothes that. 00:18:22
Another set of issues. 00:18:24
And so. 00:18:26
For those reasons, I. 00:18:28
I don't think that we should abruptly close. 00:18:30
I think we should continue to search for. 00:18:33
Viable options. 00:18:36
So that we can. 00:18:38
Do the best we can for the public. 00:18:39
You know within those financial means that they expect. 00:18:43
And so for those reasons, I'm. 00:18:46
I'm in. 00:18:49
OK, so if I understand what everyone's talking about, we would like to on the next meeting that maybe I'll. 00:18:51
On the agenda? 00:18:56
Put this matter up for. 00:18:58
Formal recommendation, recommendation the committee commissioners and that'll be that'll take place before. 00:18:59
That boards. 00:19:05
Final vote on the issue and before the Council's final vote on the issue and before the public hearing. 00:19:07
In all likelihood, I would think. 00:19:12
Because it sounds like this is going to be kind of a. 00:19:15
Gordian. 00:19:18
Not, uh. 00:19:19
Untangle. 00:19:20
But I think it's worthwhile. At the end of the day, it'll streamline. 00:19:21
You've got purchasing and management and just to be clear, we have to be out of Galena. What's the, what's the drop dead date 00:19:26
we're going to have to look at because January 1. 00:19:30
It's, I think I thought it was a year from the sale. I thought so too. I thought it was a year from the sale. So I don't know. I 00:19:34
thought it was December 31st. That's what I thought. 00:19:38
OK. So we'll get some clarification. 00:19:42
To break this tie. 00:19:46
I you have to, I have to look at the records. That's the first time hearing. 00:19:48
Yeah, of this and that's. 00:19:52
Well, that's huge for us, right? Because, you know, we get, sometimes we get 600 patrons a day. 00:19:54
At that location, right? Well, either way. 00:20:00
With a curtailed budget next year, it'll need that operational need to be scaled back. 00:20:02
And we are going to have to give you that date. 00:20:07
You know, and it's. 00:20:10
But I think, I think it's a year from the sale of. 00:20:11
But it's good that whosoever can research it first. 00:20:14
All right, we'll keep us. Keep us posted. 00:20:20
All right. 00:20:23
That'll do it. 00:20:25
Thank you. 00:20:26
I have one person that signed up for public comment, but I've seen somebody else come in. So Mr. Isaacs, would you like to? 00:20:29
Have an opportunity to make a comment? 00:20:35
I've got some comments on what you all just did, but I've got. 00:20:42
Something else I want to get out off my chest. 00:20:44
There was an article recently in the Tribune that talked about Commissioner Naples. 00:20:47
Use on recycling that it said. Sorry about reading this. 00:20:54
He views recycling is important but does not believe it needs to be funded by the government. 00:20:58
My reaction Does this view also apply to the soil and water conservation? 00:21:04
Parks and Recreation. 00:21:09
Stormwater and library, all of which were funded by the government. 00:21:11
And all of which are important. 00:21:17
What stormwater which I suppo support. 00:21:20
Does is to keep people from harming? 00:21:22
The environment by it. 00:21:25
Ensuring that storm water runoff is dealt with properly does not become pollution. 00:21:27
Recycling does the same thing by 1. 00:21:32
Keeping some of the. 00:21:35
Of what could become pollution out of the landfills. 00:21:37
It does this by beginning the process of turning it into a remade product. 00:21:40
Either the same or different one. 00:21:45
And two, reducing the consumption of raw materials. 00:21:47
That would be required to replace the product. 00:21:51
The energy that would have been used. 00:21:53
And the pollution that would have been produced by obtaining materials and manufacturing replacements. 00:21:56
Clark County charges $34. 00:22:01
Which I think is what we're now going to charge for. 00:22:04
Stormwater. 00:22:07
For residents of Sellersburg, Jeffersonville Collect. 00:22:09
In Clarksville and that is a collection service. 00:22:12
And $70 per household. 00:22:16
Outside the three cities. 00:22:19
The fund drop off service at 5 locations. 00:22:20
They seem to be doing a pretty good job in. 00:22:24
Clark County. 00:22:27
The state is not giving up on recycling. 00:22:30
The state is trying to get. 00:22:32
More structured recycling, not recycling. 00:22:35
Use of those things. 00:22:39
They're trying to get a system in. 00:22:40
Place that will take. 00:22:43
What is recycled? 00:22:44
And make sure that it gets. 00:22:46
Processed. 00:22:47
India still has a goal of collecting 50% of household waste. 00:22:49
Not hazardous. 00:22:54
Household waste. 00:22:56
I don't know which one to do first. 00:22:58
My first question was what is the plan for facilities and equipment? 00:23:05
It sounds to me like you guys are going to. 00:23:08
Work on that. 00:23:11
I know this could be a hot potato. 00:23:14
But your question about whether or not people would come to. 00:23:16
Edwardsville. 00:23:19
Which I tell you from past experience, people are not real happy about going to. 00:23:21
What we consider. 00:23:26
Short distance. 00:23:27
To do this. 00:23:29
We used to have 6. 00:23:31
Drop off. 00:23:32
I think you might try some kind of survey. 00:23:35
As to whether or not they would do that? 00:23:38
If we had it, well, you only have one. 00:23:46
Request for anything and that is for the. 00:23:49
Hazardous waste, right? 00:23:51
So have we got any feelers? Anybody expressed any kind of interest? 00:23:53
And whether they might. 00:23:58
Somewhat. Now we're talking. 00:24:00
Take over part of the recycling product. 00:24:02
The deadline on that RFP is the first week of December. 00:24:05
So there's really no reason to comment. We really can't comment until that date, OK? 00:24:09
OK, umm. 00:24:13
And you need to plan for facilities that equipment. 00:24:16
What's going to happen with those things? 00:24:20
I think that's it. 00:24:23
Thank you. 00:24:24
Strategy. 00:24:25
Is there anyone else from the public that would like to comment? 00:24:28
Hearing none any board comments before we close? 00:24:33
The little thing I'd like to say is I know the seasons are getting ready to change. It's going to get darker earlier and it's 00:24:39
going to be getting cold. 00:24:42
Big thank you for your people out there working. 00:24:47
Doing the service. 00:24:49
Dave, I know that there's been a lot of questions lately about what's going on, so. 00:24:51
Hopefully we've answered a few of those tonight and we people have an understanding of which. 00:24:55
Direction we're looking at going, so I do have. 00:24:59
One further comment. 00:25:02
I don't think it's a bad idea if we are going to look for a new location to put a survey out to. 00:25:05
Locations. 00:25:10
People might. 00:25:11
Find convenient. I also think we should probably. 00:25:13
Survey as to whether or not people would be open to the idea of a drop off fee. 00:25:17
To help offset some of the cost. 00:25:22
Cancel. 00:25:25
Motion to adjourn, so move. 00:25:31
There was no formal motion. 00:25:36
It was just discussion. 00:25:38
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. 00:25:41
OK. I thought you talked about the ladder. OK. 00:25:44
Have a good evening. 00:25:47
Resolution. 00:25:56
Well, we have. 00:26:04
Because I don't know why sign in the minutes and the res. 00:26:10

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Event transcript
All right. 00:00:08
Good afternoon. We call this meeting of the Flick County Solid Waste. 00:00:13
Board of Directors to order if you would rise and join the pledge. 00:00:17
Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. 00:00:22
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 00:00:26
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:30
Alright. 00:00:35
Looks like we have. 00:00:46
Doctor Canable myself. 00:00:48
Dale and Franklin are all present. Everybody else. 00:00:50
Unable to attend tonight. 00:00:53
For the record, can we just? 00:00:56
Say who those are that are not here, Certainly. 00:00:57
Adam Dickey. 00:01:01
Mayor Giddy Hand. 00:01:02
And. 00:01:04
Brandon Health. 00:01:05
So we have a core, we do have a quorum. 00:01:07
Yes, thank you. Yes, Sir. 00:01:09
Looking for approval of the September 16th minutes please. Some of. 00:01:12
2nd. 00:01:16
Got a motion in a second, any discussion? 00:01:17
All in favor signify by saying aye aye. 00:01:20
Any opposed? 00:01:23
That cares. 00:01:24
Approval Approval of the October. 00:01:27
Provisional claims. 00:01:30
So moved. 00:01:32
Second, OK, I got a motion by Doctor Canable and a second by Mr. Loop. 00:01:34
Any further discussion? 00:01:39
All in favor signify by saying. 00:01:41
Aye, any opposed? 00:01:44
That carries. 00:01:45
Approval, November claims. 00:01:47
Motion to approve. 00:01:49
Motion by Doctor Naval, second by. 00:01:53
Councilman Bagshaw. 00:01:55
Any further discussion? 00:01:58
All in favor signify by saying aye. 00:02:00
Aye. 00:02:02
Any opposed? 00:02:03
That carries. 00:02:04
And looking for approval of Resolution 2025-06, the amended exhibit for the vendor lists. 00:02:06
So moved. 00:02:13
OK, got a motion by Commissioner Loop and a second by Councilman Bagshaw. Any further discussion? 00:02:15
All in favor signify by saying aye. 00:02:22
Aye, any opposed? 00:02:24
That carries. 00:02:26
Directors report. 00:02:28
And here's your. 00:02:34
Oh, thank you. 00:02:38
Good evening. 00:02:41
November 18th Directors report. 00:02:44
Marketing and communications. 00:02:47
We had a little bit over 1000 active users. All were new users, a lot of new people in their websites. 00:02:50
Operation initiatives. 00:02:56
Traffic. 00:02:58
Count October 4501. 00:02:59
Which is an increase. 00:03:04
From 4004 to 47 last month. 00:03:06
Total recycling volume for. 00:03:09
October 68, tons. 00:03:12
Which is up from 62 tons last month. 00:03:14
Year to date comparisons. 00:03:17
Highlights. 00:03:20
9.2% increase in total. 00:03:22
Of recycled product volume. 00:03:25
4.48 Increase in year to date. 00:03:27
Traffic count volume. 00:03:30
17.29. 00:03:32
Percent increase in cardboard volume. 00:03:34
And 16.28% increase in. 00:03:37
Service income year to date. 00:03:41
HW. 00:03:45
As of probably a week ago. 00:03:47
We are pretty much cleaned out of all of our. 00:03:50
Oil based product. 00:03:54
And hazardous waste. 00:03:56
OK. So that's for the year. So we're done with HSW this year. 00:03:58
No product on site. 00:04:02
The only thing that we have left to get rid of is. 00:04:04
The remainder of CRT TV's that will get. 00:04:08
Between now and the end of the year. 00:04:11
Light bulbs in batteries. 00:04:13
So. 00:04:15
We have a question on that if I'm if. 00:04:18
That this was already taken care of at a previous meeting, and I apologize, but Once Upon a time there were. 00:04:20
So 50 gallon drums out there and nobody knew the contents of those, OK. 00:04:25
Figure. Figure out what the Congress were. 00:04:30
Just curiosity. 00:04:32
I think it was deemed that everything was it was hazardous, hazardous waste, but not. 00:04:34
Not dangerous, it was not what? 00:04:40
People thought it was. 00:04:42
OK, I don't even know what people thought it was. 00:04:43
At one time I think their mind went to the worst possible scenario, you know, spent uranium rods or something. Yeah, we everything 00:04:47
that was cleaned up earlier in the first ship this year, OK. 00:04:52
That's what I thought, all the leftover from the last. 00:04:58
Whatever was left when I took over. 00:05:01
Everything is gone. 00:05:03
OK, no hazardous waste on site. 00:05:05
So staffing. 00:05:13
Currently have. 00:05:16
I think 2:00 to 3:00 volunteers that we're getting from. 00:05:17
Corrections. 00:05:21
That kind of varies week to week. 00:05:22
We are currently at. 00:05:24
Employees. 00:05:27
We went through the SBOA audit. 00:05:31
This year I know Jason was part of the excellent review. 00:05:34
We did have some prior eras, but those all have been fixed. 00:05:38
All current employees. 00:05:43
Training. 00:05:45
Is complete what was required? 00:05:46
So the audit has been closed. 00:05:49
And we're moving forward. 00:05:51
We just need to complete the 2025 salary ordinance and that's in progress, right? 00:05:53
Can you say it's closed out accepting for that shows that yes, yes, yeah. 00:05:59
See, he's asking for paperwork showing that it's closed out. 00:06:06
Yes. 00:06:09
Yeah, we have an e-mail that can be forwarded to you with. 00:06:10
In terms of. 00:06:14
Movie, The Followers and latest. 00:06:17
You know, like the last three years of salary Arkansas. 00:06:20
You know, a bunch of things. 00:06:25
I got an e-mail confirmation that says. 00:06:27
Yeah, yeah. So we don't have to, we don't have to backtrack. 00:06:38
Right. Yes, that's pretty much what that is, yes. 00:06:41
Perfect. 00:06:45
OK. 00:06:46
So. 00:06:49
Budget versus actual for the year. 00:06:51
At this point in time, we should be at 83.3%. We're at 71. 00:06:55
So we're 12% under budget. 00:06:59
I really don't need to go through. 00:07:05
All that. 00:07:06
So that's the good news. So we're running under budget right now. 00:07:09
With that being said, that's pretty much all of the. 00:07:14
You have the directors. 00:07:18
So as outlined on the. 00:07:21
On the agenda, there's a. 00:07:23
A line here for the 2026 budget. As you all know, we had a. 00:07:25
A meeting that we had to cancel, reschedule so. 00:07:29
The budget approval process was already a little bit. 00:07:32
Messed up this year. The budget's already been submitted to the County Council for approval. 00:07:35
But this board has never voted on. 00:07:40
Approving this budget, Rick. 00:07:44
Would you recommend that we go ahead and? 00:07:45
Look to approve. 00:07:47
Their budget as a board tonight or do we not need? 00:07:48
Do that since it's already been approved by the council. 00:07:51
The Council has already approved the budget. 00:07:55
You're done. 00:08:02
It's their job. 00:08:03
All right. 00:08:05
Anyone have any further questions? 00:08:07
Mr. Massengill. 00:08:09
What's left on the agenda? 00:08:12
For the rest of the evening we've got the. 00:08:13
The remaining 2025 funds which he had an open question there about what happens to the remaining funds leftover and solid waste 00:08:15
and. 00:08:19
And with the 2026 mentioning that I just. 00:08:24
If you're open for new business, then I've. 00:08:26
Yeah, if you want to bring something up, you're more welcome to do. Pretty much wrapped up with the agenda outside of public 00:08:28
comment. 00:08:31
OK, so. 00:08:34
You know, we've been living that kind of in this. 00:08:36
Gray area since we had the initial vote. 00:08:38
To move towards. 00:08:42
Dissolution of the solid waste. 00:08:43
District. 00:08:45
And we've kind of. 00:08:47
I think we've been either. 00:08:49
Indirectly or directly? 00:08:51
Kept from commenting on that too much because we've been taking a lot of public input. 00:08:53
On this and really haven't. 00:08:58
We can't really have hallway discussions on this type of stuff because it ends up becoming a quorum or something, so I want to 00:09:01
take the opportunity tonight to just bring forward some thoughts. 00:09:04
That I've had on this which is. 00:09:09
I mean if you read the the. 00:09:15
You know the tea leaves? It looks like the. 00:09:17
When the vote comes to dissolve the district, which is the management part of this? 00:09:19
The commissioners can't act on that until mid. 00:09:24
To late December, whenever that. 00:09:27
180 days. 00:09:29
Rolls out and completes. I think it was either the 15th or the 17th. I don't want to be quoted on it because I don't have it 00:09:30
exactly, but somewhere. 00:09:33
Mid to late December and the Council has to have their second vote. 00:09:36
And we'll have to hold a public hearing on on. 00:09:41
This issue before we can have either of those votes. 00:09:44
But I think theirs is slated for somewhere in January. 00:09:46
So. 00:09:50
The obvious question is where do we go from here with regards to? 00:09:52
Recycling those types of things. So again. 00:09:55
My thought my. 00:09:57
My recommendation would I would like for. 00:09:59
This Board to consider forwarding to the Commission. 00:10:01
A plan that would. 00:10:05
Look at 2026 as kind of a transitional year. 00:10:07
There has been a budget that's been appropriated. 00:10:11
For recycling for 2026. 00:10:14
It's kind of an up to amount. 00:10:17
Or pay no more than that, if you will. 00:10:20
But I think that this board would put forward. 00:10:23
To the Commissioners. 00:10:26
A recommendation that the commissioners set the budget for 2026. 00:10:27
Use some of those resources that are already there. 00:10:31
I think. I think it's better to have a slow transition from. 00:10:35
The county providing these services to public entities providing these services rather than an abrupt. 00:10:40
Halt of such services we have an RFP out right now for. 00:10:46
Handling of household hazardous waste, which I think comes back the first week of December, something like that, and we'll see 00:10:50
what the interest is on that. 00:10:54
But right now we haven't had anybody from the private industry who looks like they want to jump in with both feet to take over all 00:10:58
of the services. 00:11:01
That. 00:11:05
The department. 00:11:07
Has provided so. 00:11:08
Again, reading the tea leaves, I would think that those votes are going to go forward. 00:11:12
To dissolve. 00:11:16
The uh. 00:11:17
Solid waste district. 00:11:18
But that doesn't. 00:11:20
Equate with eliminating all services. 00:11:21
Basically, whatever services would be provided would be brought under the purview authority of the commissioners. 00:11:24
And. 00:11:30
The You know Mr. Madison Gill, if he were to. 00:11:32
Want to carry on to that position would be the front runner for that to report directly to the commissioners and. 00:11:37
We would set the budget just like we do for the road department and anybody else. Again, I would still like to transition towards 00:11:42
more of these services being taken over. 00:11:46
By. 00:11:51
Consumer driven payment rather than government payment, but. 00:11:52
I don't think that's going to happen on January 1, 2026. I don't think it can happen. 00:11:57
The dissolution that ordinance looks. 00:12:02
To be relatively on read, it's going to take some time to kind of untie all of those knots anyway. 00:12:04
So Long story short is I'd like for us to. 00:12:10
To look at, 2026 is a year where there's going to be some level of services provided, but it's going to be under the management of 00:12:13
the commissioners rather than. 00:12:16
Formally by the district. That way we can. 00:12:20
I think. 00:12:22
Cut with regards to operations and and bring in payroll and. 00:12:23
Claims back towards the county under the auditor's office rather than. 00:12:28
The outside contractor. 00:12:33
And again. 00:12:35
Give private industry. 00:12:36
A chance to to kind of. 00:12:38
Jump in a little bit more than has happened thus far, so. 00:12:39
Those are my thoughts and I don't know whether we need formal action on that or not. Tonight. We probably don't because. 00:12:43
I would probably call for a formal vote on that from this board to go to the Commission. 00:12:49
At the December meeting. 00:12:53
And I'm sure we'll have more public. 00:12:55
Comment which is welcome. 00:12:57
On that and then we do have to have a public hearing before we go forward with either of those votes, so. 00:12:59
But again, there would be some level of service the budget would be reduced over. 00:13:04
2025, which I think the final expenditures for 2025 if I remember that SBOA account were. 00:13:09
Mid $600,000 or something like that. 00:13:16
No, the 2025 budget, the 2025 actual expenditures, the one that was just recently audited, the 2024. 00:13:19
Thought that was. 00:13:26
2025 budget was like 529, but 2024 I think there was the. 00:13:27
Yeah. 00:13:33
OK. I think it was like 640 or something like that. Yeah, I believe it was increased for some. 00:13:36
Budget or for some grant matching right or some equipment so it was elevated. 00:13:40
But anyway, but that's that's. 00:13:46
That's what I'm seeing for 2026. 00:13:47
So is there an RFP out for the private sector for. 00:13:51
Recycling. 00:13:55
There is for household hazardous waste. Yeah, I knew that, yeah. 00:13:56
Nothing else at this time, OK. 00:14:00
I didn't have a question, OK. 00:14:04
There were some discussions with regards to since we've sold the library. 00:14:06
By possibly using some of the land in the world department are. 00:14:11
Recycling. 00:14:16
And you have a gut feeling as to? 00:14:19
Whether or not. 00:14:24
Company would show up out at the road department at the recycling is out there. 00:14:25
In Georgetown. 00:14:31
I think you would see. 00:14:33
You know the community from that area, but I don't know about. 00:14:35
You know, the people that we see in New Albany, if they would drive all the way out to Georgetown. 00:14:39
And I'm not sure. 00:14:44
Well, I think he means like the people that are at Galena. 00:14:47
Do you think they would go toward Georgetown? 00:14:51
Not the new album, the. 00:14:54
The people you're getting in Galena are from New Albany. 00:14:55
Right. 00:14:58
We do see New Albany. 00:14:58
Residents at Galena. 00:15:00
I mean or at. 00:15:01
Grant line, yes, but in Galena. 00:15:03
Those are mainly people out in the county, correct? 00:15:07
That's Greenville residents, Yeah. Do you think that they would run over to Georgetown? 00:15:10
Maybe once they got used to it. I mean, do we have enough? 00:15:16
We'd see how important recycling was to him. Wouldn't. 00:15:19
Yeah, you would. I have to say that that. 00:15:22
Sydney, Maine has indicated that he thinks that the traffic patterns that that would produce would not be conducive to them doing 00:15:27
business at that particular site. 00:15:31
So it would have to be another. 00:15:35
And I was thinking more like we could use the unused portion of Nova. 00:15:36
Park. Yeah, there are options. 00:15:43
Yeah, absolutely. 00:15:44
It's just as part of our sales agreement, sell agreement. 00:15:46
Of that property to the Galena Library Board. 00:15:49
It was stipulated that our. Yeah. 00:15:52
Our operations there have to be discontinued. 00:15:53
But I thought that the library was all for us even there. 00:15:57
You can read the sale agreement. I mean that was that was negotiated by. 00:16:01
I think I think it's with his ear for when we sign. 00:16:07
But that was negotiated by that board and their attorney. 00:16:10
That was that came back to us two or three times that's. 00:16:14
Yeah. 00:16:17
So anyway, I don't open. 00:16:19
I welcome any comment or thought on it. Well, I guess. 00:16:21
My point of view. 00:16:24
Doctor Campbell is. 00:16:26
To be clear. 00:16:28
This vote. 00:16:30
What's the TV shoot reference? 00:16:31
Would be to dissolve this board. 00:16:33
Yes, only pretty much because we're not saying recycling is going to stop. 00:16:35
But this board will be dissolved, yes. 00:16:40
To be clear, I just want to be clear about that and another just. 00:16:43
A point you were in your. 00:16:46
Listeners would take over those responsibilities. That's. 00:16:49
And that's what the question was all about, you know, just. 00:16:51
Your gut feeling. 00:16:54
Where would another location? 00:16:55
Commissioners. 00:16:57
Yeah, we have to do a plan. OK, I understand that. But I just want to be clear, Reduce, we reduce a layer of bureaucracy. If 00:16:59
government, if there's people watching, to be clear, the only action right now is this board would be dissolved. 00:17:05
Possibly in the future. 00:17:12
Other things could happen as part of the commissioners. 00:17:13
Wishes at that time. 00:17:16
Correct. OK. But when you when you look at the nuts and bolts of it, that's all that the vote on the district dissolution over. 00:17:18
Right was. 00:17:24
So and another thing just. 00:17:26
Just a point you referenced, the money's been appropriated, the budget's been approved. 00:17:28
Money hadn't been a pro, thank you very much. 00:17:33
There's two different means of words, that's why we have a council member here. 00:17:35
So I concur with. 00:17:42
With Alan. 00:17:45
You know what we're doing here, and I think it is. It does make it clear. 00:17:48
When you say we're just. 00:17:53
Going to get rid of this board. 00:17:56
I've always been confused that the finances were not part of government to begin with and they should be. 00:17:58
And so on. 00:18:05
Happy that those finances and the control of those finances. 00:18:06
Are brought back into government. 00:18:11
The way they should be. 00:18:13
So and I also concur with. 00:18:15
Without with the fact that. 00:18:17
I think that if we abrupt. 00:18:19
Clothes that. 00:18:22
Another set of issues. 00:18:24
And so. 00:18:26
For those reasons, I. 00:18:28
I don't think that we should abruptly close. 00:18:30
I think we should continue to search for. 00:18:33
Viable options. 00:18:36
So that we can. 00:18:38
Do the best we can for the public. 00:18:39
You know within those financial means that they expect. 00:18:43
And so for those reasons, I'm. 00:18:46
I'm in. 00:18:49
OK, so if I understand what everyone's talking about, we would like to on the next meeting that maybe I'll. 00:18:51
On the agenda? 00:18:56
Put this matter up for. 00:18:58
Formal recommendation, recommendation the committee commissioners and that'll be that'll take place before. 00:18:59
That boards. 00:19:05
Final vote on the issue and before the Council's final vote on the issue and before the public hearing. 00:19:07
In all likelihood, I would think. 00:19:12
Because it sounds like this is going to be kind of a. 00:19:15
Gordian. 00:19:18
Not, uh. 00:19:19
Untangle. 00:19:20
But I think it's worthwhile. At the end of the day, it'll streamline. 00:19:21
You've got purchasing and management and just to be clear, we have to be out of Galena. What's the, what's the drop dead date 00:19:26
we're going to have to look at because January 1. 00:19:30
It's, I think I thought it was a year from the sale. I thought so too. I thought it was a year from the sale. So I don't know. I 00:19:34
thought it was December 31st. That's what I thought. 00:19:38
OK. So we'll get some clarification. 00:19:42
To break this tie. 00:19:46
I you have to, I have to look at the records. That's the first time hearing. 00:19:48
Yeah, of this and that's. 00:19:52
Well, that's huge for us, right? Because, you know, we get, sometimes we get 600 patrons a day. 00:19:54
At that location, right? Well, either way. 00:20:00
With a curtailed budget next year, it'll need that operational need to be scaled back. 00:20:02
And we are going to have to give you that date. 00:20:07
You know, and it's. 00:20:10
But I think, I think it's a year from the sale of. 00:20:11
But it's good that whosoever can research it first. 00:20:14
All right, we'll keep us. Keep us posted. 00:20:20
All right. 00:20:23
That'll do it. 00:20:25
Thank you. 00:20:26
I have one person that signed up for public comment, but I've seen somebody else come in. So Mr. Isaacs, would you like to? 00:20:29
Have an opportunity to make a comment? 00:20:35
I've got some comments on what you all just did, but I've got. 00:20:42
Something else I want to get out off my chest. 00:20:44
There was an article recently in the Tribune that talked about Commissioner Naples. 00:20:47
Use on recycling that it said. Sorry about reading this. 00:20:54
He views recycling is important but does not believe it needs to be funded by the government. 00:20:58
My reaction Does this view also apply to the soil and water conservation? 00:21:04
Parks and Recreation. 00:21:09
Stormwater and library, all of which were funded by the government. 00:21:11
And all of which are important. 00:21:17
What stormwater which I suppo support. 00:21:20
Does is to keep people from harming? 00:21:22
The environment by it. 00:21:25
Ensuring that storm water runoff is dealt with properly does not become pollution. 00:21:27
Recycling does the same thing by 1. 00:21:32
Keeping some of the. 00:21:35
Of what could become pollution out of the landfills. 00:21:37
It does this by beginning the process of turning it into a remade product. 00:21:40
Either the same or different one. 00:21:45
And two, reducing the consumption of raw materials. 00:21:47
That would be required to replace the product. 00:21:51
The energy that would have been used. 00:21:53
And the pollution that would have been produced by obtaining materials and manufacturing replacements. 00:21:56
Clark County charges $34. 00:22:01
Which I think is what we're now going to charge for. 00:22:04
Stormwater. 00:22:07
For residents of Sellersburg, Jeffersonville Collect. 00:22:09
In Clarksville and that is a collection service. 00:22:12
And $70 per household. 00:22:16
Outside the three cities. 00:22:19
The fund drop off service at 5 locations. 00:22:20
They seem to be doing a pretty good job in. 00:22:24
Clark County. 00:22:27
The state is not giving up on recycling. 00:22:30
The state is trying to get. 00:22:32
More structured recycling, not recycling. 00:22:35
Use of those things. 00:22:39
They're trying to get a system in. 00:22:40
Place that will take. 00:22:43
What is recycled? 00:22:44
And make sure that it gets. 00:22:46
Processed. 00:22:47
India still has a goal of collecting 50% of household waste. 00:22:49
Not hazardous. 00:22:54
Household waste. 00:22:56
I don't know which one to do first. 00:22:58
My first question was what is the plan for facilities and equipment? 00:23:05
It sounds to me like you guys are going to. 00:23:08
Work on that. 00:23:11
I know this could be a hot potato. 00:23:14
But your question about whether or not people would come to. 00:23:16
Edwardsville. 00:23:19
Which I tell you from past experience, people are not real happy about going to. 00:23:21
What we consider. 00:23:26
Short distance. 00:23:27
To do this. 00:23:29
We used to have 6. 00:23:31
Drop off. 00:23:32
I think you might try some kind of survey. 00:23:35
As to whether or not they would do that? 00:23:38
If we had it, well, you only have one. 00:23:46
Request for anything and that is for the. 00:23:49
Hazardous waste, right? 00:23:51
So have we got any feelers? Anybody expressed any kind of interest? 00:23:53
And whether they might. 00:23:58
Somewhat. Now we're talking. 00:24:00
Take over part of the recycling product. 00:24:02
The deadline on that RFP is the first week of December. 00:24:05
So there's really no reason to comment. We really can't comment until that date, OK? 00:24:09
OK, umm. 00:24:13
And you need to plan for facilities that equipment. 00:24:16
What's going to happen with those things? 00:24:20
I think that's it. 00:24:23
Thank you. 00:24:24
Strategy. 00:24:25
Is there anyone else from the public that would like to comment? 00:24:28
Hearing none any board comments before we close? 00:24:33
The little thing I'd like to say is I know the seasons are getting ready to change. It's going to get darker earlier and it's 00:24:39
going to be getting cold. 00:24:42
Big thank you for your people out there working. 00:24:47
Doing the service. 00:24:49
Dave, I know that there's been a lot of questions lately about what's going on, so. 00:24:51
Hopefully we've answered a few of those tonight and we people have an understanding of which. 00:24:55
Direction we're looking at going, so I do have. 00:24:59
One further comment. 00:25:02
I don't think it's a bad idea if we are going to look for a new location to put a survey out to. 00:25:05
Locations. 00:25:10
People might. 00:25:11
Find convenient. I also think we should probably. 00:25:13
Survey as to whether or not people would be open to the idea of a drop off fee. 00:25:17
To help offset some of the cost. 00:25:22
Cancel. 00:25:25
Motion to adjourn, so move. 00:25:31
There was no formal motion. 00:25:36
It was just discussion. 00:25:38
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. 00:25:41
OK. I thought you talked about the ladder. OK. 00:25:44
Have a good evening. 00:25:47
Resolution. 00:25:56
Well, we have. 00:26:04
Because I don't know why sign in the minutes and the res. 00:26:10