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Stormwater Meeting. You'll join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:00
I pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:00:03
Of the United States of America. 00:00:05
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:07
OK. 00:00:20
Looking for approval of the July Minutes. 00:00:21
Motion to approve and I'll second. 00:00:26
All in favor. 00:00:28
Aye. 00:00:30
Daily maintenance reports Chris in your. 00:00:36
Packet. The first thing we have is a invoice for Ohm. 00:00:39
OOHM advance. 00:00:45
Uh, advising. 00:00:48
I don't know if. 00:00:50
At Stan, I think we have enough. It's for $137. 00:00:51
That's the only invoice I have this month. 00:00:54
One never knows. 00:00:58
So I'm looking for approval on. 00:00:59
The invoice. 00:01:02
Make a motion to approve. 00:01:04
I'll second. 00:01:06
All in favor. 00:01:08
Aye, aye. 00:01:09
And in your packet you'll also see the. 00:01:11
Daily maintenance reports. 00:01:15
There was The highway department did a lot of work in the woods, Lafayette subdivision fixing and cleaning and. 00:01:17
Repairing catch basins. They also did a lot of work along Borden Rd. 00:01:24
Chapel Hill. 00:01:29
Road. 00:01:30
In that area, Scottsville and Chapel Hill Rd. 00:01:31
That's not all, but those are just highlighted areas and everything else. New cut Rd. and everything else. 00:01:35
Lot of tile work, some ditching. 00:01:41
Along Borden Rd. 00:01:43
A lot of tile work in catch basin repairs and everything else. 00:01:45
When it comes to the back truck, there was only one of the. 00:01:50
One of the items that showed that the back truck was out. 00:01:54
I think Sydney was supposed to be here today. 00:01:57
Yeah. 00:02:03
Couldn't miss him with that shirt on. 00:02:04
Exactly. 00:02:07
Came in right behind me. 00:02:08
Slow month for the back truck only handed out two times. 00:02:12
Want to excavate a? 00:02:16
Covered issue in a subdivision. 00:02:19
To get down so you safely. 00:02:21
Repair. 00:02:23
And the other one was to do a lot of. 00:02:24
Hydro excavating for. 00:02:26
Weight limit signs that were emergency. 00:02:27
Install. 00:02:30
We spent a couple days doing that. 00:02:31
As far as that goes. 00:02:33
As far as the back truck. 00:02:34
July was pretty dry. 00:02:36
So to speak, compared to May and June. 00:02:38
So we weren't on cleaning cupboards or ditches or. 00:02:40
You catch basins. They were all pretty much caught up. 00:02:43
So with the paving issues going on. 00:02:46
The stuff that Chris is talking about on. 00:02:48
Chapel Hill Rd. Scottsville Rd. 00:02:51
All the pay areas that we paid. 00:02:54
Most of our people have been tied up getting those ready for paving. 00:02:56
And making it through this paving progress, which we finished up this week. 00:02:59
And now we'll be back to normal operations. 00:03:03
For a short time. 00:03:05
Mm-hmm. Great. 00:03:06
I've been watching all the work you guys been doing. You've been. 00:03:09
Like you've been out there a lot, so thanks to your guys, they've done a lot of. 00:03:11
A lot of work, Yep. 00:03:15
Thank you, We're still getting daily requests for more of your work so. 00:03:17
People love it. 00:03:21
Really. Yeah. 00:03:23
Job security. 00:03:25
All right, old business. 00:03:30
Erosion control summary with heritage. 00:03:32
Good evening, Casey Young with Heritage. 00:03:37
Pretty straightforward month again, we should have a summary there showing that. 00:03:43
5 dormant sites. 24 compliance sites. 00:03:48
Five with high probability of off-site segmentation, then two showing evidence of offsite segmentation. 00:03:51
I'll draw your attention to. 00:03:57
Three of them kind of the repeat offenders that have multiple dates on there just showing that it's been back back months. The 00:03:59
Anderson Avenue Ext, when we reached out to the developer on that one and they were under the impression that that. 00:04:04
The final service layer had already been poured. 00:04:10
It hasn't. We did our inspection already in the North too, so he's gonna check with his contractor and figure out what's going on 00:04:12
there. 00:04:15
And try and push that one along for us. 00:04:18
And will give us an update. 00:04:20
Whenever he knows more Bridlewood that's been on there a couple months now. 00:04:21
We were told that the contractor was going to address the issue within the next couple of days, so that one should be. 00:04:27
Good to go for this month. We'll double check obviously. 00:04:32
Another one. 00:04:37
Was the. 00:04:39
Westfield springs #38 On the back. 00:04:43
They've been on. 00:04:46
The list for two months now. 00:04:49
And we've been told that the work will be completed. 00:04:51
By Thursday, I think that was last Thursday, I haven't had a chance to talk to Garrett yet. 00:04:55
But if that is not been rectified, then Chris and I were playing on schedule an on site meeting with them just to let them know 00:05:00
the urgency of that one since it is off site. 00:05:04
Sedimentation and. 00:05:09
Trying to get them to get that under compliance before the next board meeting. 00:05:10
Any questions on any of the other ones? 00:05:15
No, I like the little notes there and that's helpful. 00:05:16
Good. Thank you. 00:05:19
All right. Thank you, guys. 00:05:21
Thank you. 00:05:23
Stantec. 00:05:26
Good afternoon. Kristen Hughes with Stantec and I'm joined by Mike Green, who's also with Stantec. 00:05:36
We are. 00:05:43
Giving a quick organizational update, I have been. 00:05:44
My role at Stantec has been shifting, so I'm traveling quite a bit. So Mike Green will be serving as the project manager moving 00:05:48
forward, but I will still be. 00:05:53
In the background, supporting from a quality assurance, quality control perspective, we thought this would be a good opportunity 00:05:58
for Mike to introduce himself. He and I have worked together for over 20 years. 00:06:03
So I'll hand it up over to Mike. 00:06:09
Yeah, stole my Thunder. Yeah, I've been working with Kristen for over 20 years, just not directly with you all. 00:06:11
26 years. 00:06:16
At Stan Tech in the last. 00:06:18
2223 primarily working with water. 00:06:21
And flooding. And storm. 00:06:25
So should be easy transition and like she said she's not going anywhere. So if I have any questions or anything obviously. 00:06:26
Talk with her, but my face is what you'll be seeing. 00:06:34
Great. 00:06:37
Nice to meet you, have you? 00:06:38
And good luck. 00:06:39
Yeah. 00:06:40
Amanda. 00:06:44
Good evening. 00:06:54
I'm need your name and address if you don't mind. 00:06:55
Amanda Steinberg, 4201 Nell Smith Rd. 00:06:59
Thank you. 00:07:03
You're welcome. 00:07:03
I'm a resident there and I was here about a year ago. 00:07:05
About flooding issues. 00:07:09
And. 00:07:11
I'm back. 00:07:13
Because I haven't gotten any better. 00:07:13
In fact, there's more erosion. 00:07:15
Were the ditches. 00:07:18
I don't know if you if you guys recall any of the memory of my conversation previously, but I did send an e-mail out with pictures 00:07:19
and some. 00:07:23
Conversation. 00:07:27
Addressing that, but now we also have Rock Ridge. 00:07:28
Across the street. 00:07:32
Is developing 23 patio homes. 00:07:33
And they're connecting to. 00:07:36
The underground. 00:07:38
Waterway that goes to our ditch, so now we have additional water. 00:07:39
Which is one of the reasons I asked for moratorium last year and couldn't get it. 00:07:43
I was just wondering if. 00:07:48
You guys are willing to do anything about it? 00:07:51
My neighbors. 00:07:56
Catch basin that she had paid to put in. 00:07:58
Years ago. 00:08:00
Correctly. 00:08:02
It's falling in. 00:08:03
And then I have more of my. 00:08:05
Land caving in. 00:08:07
And. 00:08:09
From when we have really bad storms or a lot of water, so. 00:08:10
The more impervious surfaces you all add, the more water we're getting. 00:08:14
And it really is causing damage. 00:08:19
OK, I see your pictures and the only thing I can suggest is. 00:08:26
I follow the staff here and the engineer and. 00:08:32
Whatever they suggest is what we're gonna. 00:08:35
Be following them on. 00:08:38
Understood. 00:08:40
I'm not so bear with Rock Ridge did that. 00:08:42
Can you fill us in on that one? 00:08:46
Yeah, I was missing that would have been city approval, but ultimately would have probably had to come through here for the Rock 00:08:48
Ridge is, as Amanda said, is a development across the. 00:08:52
Mel Smith rode from her. 00:08:57
Is it direct? I know where your home is. Is it directly across the street? I know, pretty close. 00:08:59
OK, I didn't know where that. Thank you. She says that the drainage. 00:09:04
Goes across and comes onto her. It actually doesn't. 00:09:10
Their detention pond actually releases. 00:09:14
Back behind. 00:09:17
Across the street, there's a house across the street. Already there it actually. 00:09:19
The detention pond releases there, it goes back behind that house and then. 00:09:22
Go wraps around it goes to Bald Knob Creek. 00:09:25
Over there on that side. 00:09:29
And and everything else. So it's not coming there that the. 00:09:31
The only water that is coming there is the regular roadside drainage that would. 00:09:34
That was going there anyway. I mean, Heritage is the one that reviewed the plans and. 00:09:39
You know we. 00:09:44
We met with the contractors and. 00:09:45
Verified that. 00:09:47
That's where the water was going not to. 00:09:48
People on the other side of the road anymore water issues and everything else. 00:09:51
Again. 00:09:57
I know that Amanda sent those pictures out there. Heavy rainfall event the the apartment complex. 00:09:58
Adeline, I believe it's called apartments. 00:10:06
Their detention pond does drain that way. 00:10:09
Towards her backyard and honestly. 00:10:12
Her backyard is the headwaters for a little tributary that eventually goes into Jacob's Creek, so there's always been water there. 00:10:15
Is there erosion? There could be erosion. 00:10:24
You get erosion whenever you. 00:10:27
Mow the grass. 00:10:30
You know, have a nice manicured yard and. 00:10:31
The grass is only, you know, a couple inches high and doesn't allow the root system to help with erosion and everything else. 00:10:34
She had called or sent an e-mail. 00:10:41
With the pictures we went out the next. 00:10:45
Or that same day, just a few hours later and it was dry. So I mean it, it flowed, it went. 00:10:46
Downstream. 00:10:52
I I just don't see where. 00:10:54
It's a county issue. 00:10:57
For us to take on at this point, I think it's more of a. 00:10:59
Private property issue. There's no easements or anything. 00:11:02
Is it affecting her and her neighbor? 00:11:06
Probably yes, but if there's no easement, it's not getting into any structures it's not a danger to. 00:11:09
Health or emergency services. 00:11:15
So I mean those are our criterias for doing projects. It it has one of the. 00:11:18
The four that we look at I just. 00:11:24
Don't recommend. 00:11:27
The county or the board? 00:11:28
Taking on any project there at this time. 00:11:29
Horatio is. 00:11:32
In the audience to view. 00:11:33
Won't ask him any questions about it. 00:11:35
Certainly. 00:11:45
So they do have a retention pond at Rockbridge. 00:11:47
However, and there was a previous underneath Mel Smith Rd. which I had talked about last year coming from Church on the Rock. 00:11:52
Because we get all their water. 00:11:59
OK, but now Rockridge has attached a little drainage part. 00:12:01
From their side of the road. 00:12:05
To that. 00:12:07
So now you've got the church and you have Rock Ridge. 00:12:08
And yes, there is a retainage pond over here. 00:12:11
As far as erosion, I have sinkholes in my yard. 00:12:14
Like, literally. 00:12:18
Dirt. 00:12:19
Grass missing? 00:12:20
And my neighbor. 00:12:22
Like as I stated, her catch basin is. 00:12:24
Deteriorating from the water flow and the damage. 00:12:28
So what was once built up? 00:12:31
The correct way that she paid for is now being torn down from the water damage and I do pay Floyd County taxes. 00:12:34
And it is a Floyd County issue because help me understand how. 00:12:41
If I were to. 00:12:47
Let's just say. 00:12:48
That's Chris explain this when he came out the very first time if I were to build a dam. 00:12:51
And that dam causes damage to my neighbor's property. I'm responsible. 00:12:56
Right. 00:13:00
So how is it that you're allowed to attach water? 00:13:01
From these buildings that's being approved to be built. 00:13:04
To our property. It causes damage, but nobody's responsible. 00:13:07
Help me understand that. 00:13:10
Please. 00:13:12
I don't know that I can address that. 00:13:14
But I I would ask you a question. 00:13:16
Do you have a suggestion on how you could fix your property? 00:13:18
I had told common receiver via e-mail that he should have dug since he was attaching and you got all this impervious surfaces. So 00:13:21
now we're past the wood of shoulda CUDA. 00:13:26
So now I'm asking you. 00:13:31
All the way back. That's big enough. 00:13:34
To hold that water flow that comes. 00:13:35
That just destroying our property. 00:13:38
Dig a ditch on your property. 00:13:40
Dig a ditch throughout the whole back that connects to Jacob's Creek. 00:13:41
I mean it flows. 00:13:45
I have ponds in my backyard, in my neighbor's backyard because, and I will admit we sit lower than the other people. That's closer 00:13:46
to Adeline. 00:13:50
But still, I mean the little ditch that's there. 00:13:54
Is not big enough. 00:13:57
To hold the water when the storms come. 00:13:59
Not not even the one that's built beside a house. 00:14:01
That. 00:14:04
Brings the water from under Mel Smith. 00:14:05
From the new Rockridge development and Rock. 00:14:07
Church on the Rock. 00:14:10
It's not big enough. 00:14:11
That's been my whole point all along. 00:14:13
OK, I remember. 00:14:15
Previous. 00:14:19
I'm meeting with you when you were here. 00:14:21
Year ago you're in change with hoods. 00:14:23
I believe. 00:14:25
There was a suggestion that maybe you would. 00:14:26
Talk with Colin directly on that. And I don't know whether you made the attempt, whether you guys did sit down because I just I. 00:14:28
If it happened, I'm not Privy to emails, so his suggestion is is that it is on us. Once again, he agrees with Chris. 00:14:34
And that we should pay his engineer to develop a plan and pay to have all that duck. 00:14:42
But again my question is, is help it make sense that if? 00:14:48
You guys are attaching your water. You're approving this building. 00:14:51
You're approving them to attach the water to what's our land. That's not an easement for you all. 00:14:55
And it's damaging. How is it on us? 00:14:59
The Residence. 00:15:03
I have the lady that lives beside me, she's on Social Security. 00:15:03
The gentleman, at least beside me, He's on Social Security Disability. The guy before that? 00:15:07
Is people can't afford to. 00:15:12
To get a backhoe and build architectural plans and I mean. 00:15:14
That that's unrealistic. 00:15:18
How long have you been there? 00:15:21
I've been there since August of 2024. 00:15:22
OK. And it's done. 00:15:25
A lot of damage since then. 00:15:27
Has historically that property. 00:15:28
Held water even before these. 00:15:30
Pizza so. 00:15:32
To address that, Mister Receiver. 00:15:34
Knew that there was previous water issues and said that he would not do anything. 00:15:36
He would. He would build his structures. 00:15:41
To not add to the existing problems or his verbatim words in his proposals. But what I'm asking is, is that before that project 00:15:44
even started? Do you know if that that? 00:15:49
Property had a history of retaining water already since it sits lower. 00:15:54
I'm assuming yes since my neighbor had built what she had built. 00:15:58
With the. 00:16:03
I guess you would call it a catch basin. 00:16:04
Did they disclose that to you? 00:16:07
Did they just look? No. 00:16:09
OK. Nothing was disclosed to me in the purchase of the property. 00:16:11
And with the photo that you sent. 00:16:20
Which one? I sent a couple. 00:16:24
On that one. So how long will that? 00:16:26
Again. 00:16:30
It's variable depending on how saturated the ground is, how much rain comes. 00:16:31
Thereafter, but. 00:16:34
Can I approach the whole minute to point out something on there? 00:16:36
I'm sorry, can I approach it? 00:16:39
So right here. 00:16:42
That's her catch basin. That's the hole that's now in my yard from all the water. 00:16:46
That's a whole thing. 00:16:51
And so my question is how? 00:16:52
Long does water stand there? 00:16:54
How long after that photo was taken? 00:16:56
I think I would say it dissipates within 24 hours. 00:16:59
Hours, depending on how much rain. Like if there's more rain that comes. Yeah. Yeah, I know. Yeah. And then how much was there 00:17:03
before? Sure. 00:17:06
And then and. I'm not asking this facetiously, but. 00:17:09
Are there any other anticipated developments on that road at this point in time? Is there anything on the drawing board or? 00:17:13
Be part of the village is just up the ways. Oh yeah. 00:17:20
So that's being developed. 00:17:24
So I'm talking anything else in the planning stage that is likely to come before this board. 00:17:28
That's in the fridge and. 00:17:33
We are not Privy to. 00:17:35
Right, but eventually. 00:17:37
For the storm water. 00:17:41
Approval. It has to come before here regardless of whether the city approved it or not, correct or not. 00:17:42
Their initial approval, then it goes to us like, hey, we got approval through Guwahati, now it's time for stormwater period. 00:17:48
Look, we don't get it. 00:17:55
Essay on the appro. 00:17:57
Yeah. No, no, no approval or oversight on the development itself. 00:17:59
Just on whether or not they have proper. 00:18:04
Drainage and detention within within their development not. 00:18:06
Those are done in staff review. 00:18:12
Right. 00:18:16
Right, right. 00:18:21
I mean, to the degree that I would have any authority over, I would be very. 00:18:26
Reticent to allow any further development along that but. 00:18:28
Again, you know. 00:18:32
I don't know that I have any say over it one way or the other. 00:18:34
The way that the ordinances are structured. To your original point, I agree with you. It seems a little bit **** eyed at times 00:18:37
because. 00:18:39
It's like how come is. 00:18:42
On a personal. 00:18:44
Issues liable, but when government is not. 00:18:45
And, you know, that's kind of the nature of government and. 00:18:48
You're we're part of that government. 00:18:52
Sometimes anybody that sits on this board becomes at the people that came before and afters will be on there. 00:18:54
You know when you go vote and when you're here tonight, you're part of governance and that type of thing, but. 00:18:59
I would have to defer to someone with a more. 00:19:03
Legally trained mind than mine when it comes to why is that the case, it's just kind of. 00:19:06
A beast that's been built out over the years, correct? 00:19:12
All I can tell you from this scene is that. 00:19:15
You know. 00:19:17
Given the opportunity, if something was going to go across the street from you with these photographs at this point in time. 00:19:18
I personally. 00:19:23
Can't see where I could. 00:19:24
Could go for that. 00:19:26
But. 00:19:27
That's as far as I can really can take that tonight. 00:19:29
I, you know, I again, I, I'm happy to sit down and try to broker it one-on-one. 00:19:31
Face to face meeting between you and Colin but it sounds like. 00:19:36
You guys have? 00:19:39
Kind of talk that out through the emails asked not to go on his property anymore because the last time I took some of the pictures 00:19:40
of his retention. I don't do any damage and I don't like try to wait in his pond or measure how deep it is or anything crazy. I 00:19:47
just go and take pictures. He followed the ordinances I believe to the letter and maybe even a little bit further than. 00:19:53
Than what was. 00:19:59
Quote UN quote required. 00:20:00
I mean to my knowledge of it and again I. 00:20:02
Are you talking about his water drainage from Adeline? 00:20:04
From whatever the one on the corner of Grant Line Apartments, that's common receivers property, correct? 00:20:07
I mean, I went over there during the construction phase of it and saw. 00:20:13
Everything that was being put in. 00:20:16
On that basin. 00:20:19
And to the degree that it's worked the way that it was engineered to work or not, I. 00:20:21
I can't say because I. 00:20:25
I'm not an engineer. 00:20:26
Right. 00:20:28
But that still doesn't help with the water that's being distributed and directed towards the back of our properties that's 00:20:30
destroying our. 00:20:33
Or land basically. 00:20:36
And there's trees back there too. 00:20:37
A lot. 00:20:39
So how many pieces of property do you think are? 00:20:40
Involved. 00:20:44
If you count that besides yours, OK. If you count the house next to column receiver. 00:20:46
That's one. 00:20:51
The next house is, I want to say Ryan, that's two. Then you've got Eric three, I'm 4. Marcy's five. There's another 16. 00:20:52
And I want to say. 00:21:01
There's another one that could possibly be 7 but I'm not sure because. 00:21:03
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, Horatio came back there and we were looking at the ditch that. 00:21:07
It's connected to Jacob's Creek, I think you said. 00:21:11
Yeah. 00:21:15
So at least 6. 00:21:16
My point? 00:21:18
Is you got 6 on your side of the road? 00:21:19
And you've got what you. 00:21:22
Are saying is the problem on the other side of the road? 00:21:24
It's on the same side. 00:21:28
OK, so. 00:21:29
Let's just say they're 6. 00:21:33
OK. 00:21:34
So to me, I would. 00:21:36
Call. 00:21:38
An excavating company. 00:21:40
Show them your pictures. 00:21:42
And say, what do you think? 00:21:44
How would you fix this and how much does it cost? 00:21:46
And then go to those six people and say we can fix this. 00:21:49
For this much money. 00:21:53
And then you could reduce the cost at least five times. 00:21:55
Instead of I mean this has been a year or so. 00:22:01
You've been there since 24, so right. But as I stated. 00:22:04
Marcy next to me is on Social Security. 00:22:08
I understand Social Security disability. Colin already proposed this and I was said there's. 00:22:10
There's no way that we all can afford that. 00:22:14
And I did get 3 different quotes from excavating companies. What kind of dollars are we talking? 00:22:16
Well, the highest was 20 grand. 00:22:21
What's the lowest? And that was? 00:22:23
13. 00:22:26
OK. 00:22:27
But again. 00:22:29
The storm guard approved the water to be distributed behind our property. 00:22:32
So if it's if it's not an easement for you all. 00:22:36
Then how is it you're able to attached? 00:22:39
And it damaged our property. 00:22:41
Oh well, we have to deal with it. 00:22:43
It's our responsibility. 00:22:45
Well, I think it's argumentative whether we. 00:22:47
Agreed to damage your property. 00:22:50
So. 00:22:51
Well, I mean. 00:22:52
You approved of it. 00:22:54
So the Storm Board approved it. So your approval therefore gave those people? 00:22:55
The OK and say yeah. 00:22:59
You can, you can do this, you can distribute that water and it comes that way and. 00:23:01
Again, now we got. 00:23:05
Rockridge. 00:23:07
That was approved so. 00:23:08
Yeah, I don't think that's argumentative, Sir. I think that's a fact. 00:23:10
That's fine. 00:23:15
I don't have. I don't have anything further. 00:23:18
Does the catch basin in your neighbor's yard? Does that actually catch the water and drain it? 00:23:24
It does when there's. 00:23:28
Not a lot of water coming. 00:23:31
Yeah, but. 00:23:32
The problem is is the ditch is small. 00:23:33
It was small, begins. This was old. From my understanding, it was old farmland back in the day. 00:23:36
And it was like this little bitty Creek. 00:23:40
You know, just crawl, dance, have whatever. 00:23:42
And now we've got all these extra water attachments to it. 00:23:45
And now it's throwing water up over the grass, up over. 00:23:49
Covering the backyards. 00:23:53
And so the ditch that's there is not big enough to hold the water when it storms and it comes, you have pipes in your backyard. 00:23:55
So does Marcy correct? 00:24:02
My previous, yes, the previous guy that. 00:24:05
Correct. 00:24:11
So you really don't. You have. 00:24:13
Somewhat of a niche in your backyard, but you also have piping network and it's covered. 00:24:15
I don't think the county installment happen. 00:24:19
No, the county did not install it the. 00:24:22
Owner did. 00:24:24
Correct. 00:24:25
Probably tells to install something in a small ditch near things which we there's no easement for which they have all rights to be 00:24:27
able to do that. 00:24:30
OK. 00:24:34
So I'm trying to understand your point well. 00:24:35
You're saying that it was a ***** or you're saying that no. 00:24:37
It was a ditch before. 00:24:41
Yeah, but I'm talking from the very beginning. 00:24:47
So from private receivers area, there is no ditch, it's just whatever the water is eroded, right. And then when you come, as you 00:24:50
come. 00:24:54
Still has their niche. Is that not correct? They're still. Yeah, it's still it's still small. It's not even 2 feet wide. 00:24:58
And it's not even 2 feet deep. 00:25:05
And they have bridges. 00:25:07
That go over the back so they can access the back part that you have on your property. 00:25:08
No, that's. 00:25:13
That's part of the problem. It's not. 00:25:14
We backing up the water? It's not. 00:25:17
It's not. 00:25:20
You said that last year, so. 00:25:21
But the fact is, is there's too much water coming through. Water is flowing. 00:25:23
And it's flowing to. 00:25:27
Jacobs, whatever you want to call. 00:25:28
Whatever you said it was. 00:25:31
OK, tributary. Thank you. 00:25:32
It's too much water. 00:25:34
For the, for the amount, for the what the ditch was, whether there's pipe there or not, water flows through. 00:25:36
Eric and I cleaned out the ditch, which is the neighbor to my right. 00:25:42
We've taken big, huge, long pieces of wood. 00:25:46
And it goes all the way through, so there's nothing stopping up the water. It's too much water, that's my point. Too much water 00:25:49
coming at once and ditches and big enough. 00:25:54
Per for our ordinance. 00:25:59
Installer gets more than 100 year storm permit. 00:26:03
River channel or anything like that? 00:26:06
OK. 00:26:16
So it's not. It's not. 00:26:19
No problem then. 00:26:20
Correct. 00:26:22
Not saying yes, but that was not a county issue. 00:26:25
Thank you. 00:26:29
New business. 00:26:34
Randy Elliott. 00:26:36
Hello, my name is Randy Elliott. 00:26:45
Sorry, 505 Maplewood Blvd. 00:26:47
Georgetown, IN. 00:26:51
I've never done this before, so please forgive me. 00:26:52
I from what I understand. 00:26:58
My tenant at 515 Maplewood Blvd. 00:27:01
Is now is experiencing water. 00:27:05
From the. 00:27:09
Drain under the road. 00:27:11
And I think that you all got some photos. 00:27:13
It's increasingly getting worse, so I've been at that property for nine years now. 00:27:16
And. 00:27:21
The the water has in. 00:27:26
Been pre. 00:27:29
Bad since they put all those apartments in. 00:27:30
They're at the corner of Georgetown. 00:27:34
I'm not sure what they're called, sorry. 00:27:36
But. 00:27:39
In the past. 00:27:41
The past couple months. 00:27:42
Water's becoming so bad. 00:27:44
Under the. 00:27:46
Wrote there that it's actually going in our building now, my building now. 00:27:47
And it's causing my my tenant has a gymnastics facility there. 00:27:51
And so they have those mats on the floor. 00:27:56
And it's causing some. 00:27:58
Issues. 00:28:00
So. 00:28:02
Have you looked at this? 00:28:06
Sorry, I don't know what I'm doing. No, that's fine. You're fine. 00:28:07
We brought this up in to the board last meeting about projects and everything else. We did a little review of projects. This was a 00:28:12
newer one that we had added to our projects list. 00:28:18
Maybe would business park and the drainage and everything else. 00:28:23
I did not know that. 00:28:27
Right. And then with the emailing me that. 00:28:29
The next month. 00:28:31
Complain about the issue and everything else, so we've done a cost analysis with Heritage on what it would cost to do a project. 00:28:32
Through there. 00:28:41
I don't remember the number right off the top of my head. I think it was like. 00:28:42
Maybe 75 to $80,000 to do a project. 00:28:45
Basically, there's a drainage ease. 00:28:49
There is a drainage easement and it's. 00:28:50
Not functioning. It's really not even there. It's. 00:28:53
It's either been filled in or never existed and. 00:28:57
That's allowing water to get into the building and everything else, and again, we try to use the criterias. 00:29:02
Is it? 00:29:07
Detrimental to health and emergency services is it in an easement? Is it getting in structures? Is it? 00:29:08
Affecting more than one person. 00:29:15
Right now it's only affecting the the one business. 00:29:18
But it is getting in the structure, in the in the structure and it is in an easement. 00:29:21
You could argue if. 00:29:27
That could cause an emergency inside the building. 00:29:29
I mean, I'm not a first responder, so I leave that to our first responders that are sitting here. 00:29:31
On this board and everything else. So technically probably justified meeting three of the four criterias to to do the project. 00:29:37
Again, there was a small project. 00:29:49
Just downstream with. 00:29:51
A pump station for the town of Georgetown sewer. I was wondering if this was connected. 00:29:54
Yeah, so the the. 00:29:59
This would connect to that. 00:30:00
Project that was. 00:30:02
Already done. 00:30:03
And everything else so. 00:30:04
I don't know if this. 00:30:06
Only happens during heavy rain events or if this happens like during. 00:30:08
Just regular. 00:30:11
Rain Events. 00:30:12
That part we. 00:30:14
Haven't been able to hammer down but. 00:30:15
You know this was brought in front of the board. 00:30:18
At the last meeting. 00:30:20
So I guess. 00:30:21
One of my questions would be. 00:30:22
Since we did the other project up there by the fire department and. 00:30:24
Was that last year I think. 00:30:29
With Georgetown. 00:30:31
Is this gotten worse or is it? 00:30:33
100% worse. 00:30:35
It's gotten worse to where? 00:30:37
Is it only gotten worse when we got 8 inches in two hours or is it no actually? 00:30:40
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to say this or not, but he said whatever you want. 00:30:46
OK, well, so. 00:30:50
When we when they first got the the the pump station put in. 00:30:53
It was even. 00:30:58
Really bad because all of my. 00:31:00
Downspouts Downspouts on my building. 00:31:03
They were backing up. 00:31:05
And water was coming in through my roof. I have a 55 gallon. I have a video of a 55 gallon drum being filled up about 4 minutes. 00:31:07
Because the water was backing up into the building. 00:31:14
And then so we. 00:31:18
Went out there, I met with, uh, Bob. 00:31:19
Bob Woosley. 00:31:21
I think so. What would town Georgetown and we cut? 00:31:23
We took a shovel and cut the. 00:31:27
The. 00:31:29
Block pipe and. 00:31:32
All the water come flowing out of the. 00:31:34
The drain, The downspout. 00:31:37
So he said. 00:31:39
That he doesn't know how. 00:31:40
But supposedly he thinks. 00:31:42
I could be wrong on this 'cause I was like a year ago or so. 00:31:45
He thinks that art. 00:31:48
Downspouts were all connected to that pump station somehow before where that pump station was put in. 00:31:50
And because they can't find. 00:31:55
Where that water is going? 00:31:57
So. 00:31:59
To answer your question, yes this. 00:32:00
Problem has gotten worse. 00:32:02
Since that pump station's got put in. 00:32:04
And then also. 00:32:06
I even have a video of of the whole fire department parking lot. 00:32:08
Completely covered in water. 00:32:12
And it's all sets at pump station, so. 00:32:14
It actually is, kind of. 00:32:17
Affecting all of us there. 00:32:19
Mm-hmm. So have you disconnected all of your downspouts at this point? 00:32:21
No Sir, only that one. 00:32:25
Just because that's what he told me to do and it's just going to the ground. 00:32:28
We do have Rocker on it though. 00:32:35
Yeah, I think we need to look a little closer at this project. 00:32:37
And let me say this the he mentioned the. 00:32:42
Water, the fire department and everything else. We have identified where that pipe is caved in, in a spot at the fire department. 00:32:44
Sydney and them were supposed to. 00:32:52
Whenever they had time to be able to. 00:32:54
Uh, replace that piping. I don't know if that's been. 00:32:56
Than yet no, we we actually how do I expect to get down there too well. 00:32:59
Yeah, so, so we have a blockage downstream with a pipe, so. 00:33:03
That's probably why the fire department. 00:33:08
It looks like it's. 00:33:10
A swimming pool or a pond that could be backing up water where his water cannot. 00:33:12
Get out and everything else. 00:33:17
I would ask that since he just told us today that all of his downspouts are not just the one. I would ask if he could disconnect 00:33:19
off his downspouts as he. 00:33:23
If that helps and then maybe reconnected a different way into that project that we have already done to see if that helps at all 00:33:27
and if it doesn't then. 00:33:31
Again, yes, let's look at this project. 00:33:35
Yeah, I think we need to look a little closer. 00:33:37
At that property and. 00:33:40
PC, yeah, definitely. 00:33:43
Alright, not the gymnastics building that. Yes Sir, you have two buildings. 00:33:46
So I know that area pretty well. The downside he's talking about is on the other building. Yeah. Which is your shop. Yeah, these 00:33:51
pictures is on and it's on. 00:33:57
Like if you're seeing it in. 00:34:03
Got off the road looking at the front of the. 00:34:05
No, it's almost halfway down the building. 00:34:09
It's from where the water is coming now. You can see it actually on Google Maps. 00:34:13
So if you you learn them across the road there, yes. So yes or yeah, I know. Where is it? That's why I said you look a little. 00:34:19
No, definitely. 00:34:28
No, I appreciate the input. 00:34:30
So there's a culvert that comes across the road right there. 00:34:34
It comes down and it turns and goes. 00:34:37
On the fence line here and goes in the ditch back here, the pump stations back here. 00:34:39
This is the dish that. 00:34:43
We had them relay the prevention altitude down that way. The flooding he's experiencing is up in this corner here where this water 00:34:44
comes across the road. 00:34:48
Hits this and then supposed to turn. I guess it's filling up the ditch maybe and then coming into the building there. 00:34:52
The pump station, like I said, it's down here and I think the downs got issues were over in this area on that building, not on 00:34:58
this building. So there's an easement going down that line right, right here is like a 15 foot granite zone. 00:35:02
But it's supposed to. 00:35:07
Plug in the easement and take the night. Right angle, yes. 00:35:09
And then you have all this water coming off of this, which also goes into that ditch. 00:35:13
Does that remember when we were assassinated, we had to put elliptical pipe in there because we were trying to make it as large as 00:35:17
we could and make it fit with the Grays up there. 00:35:21
Because there's a lot of water within the drainage area when we did the design for that pump station. 00:35:24
Is it possible this is 2 separate issues just kind of going on at the same time? The downspout is completely separate from this. 00:35:29
That's what I'm thinking. 00:35:32
Yeah, that. 00:35:36
So what happened when the contractor dug up the old pump station? They saw a bunch of pipes around there, you know, and so. 00:35:37
If it didn't have any focus out of it, I think the captain, because there's an old septic system right in here and so one of those 00:35:44
could have been his downspout that got capped, which caused when it rained, it filled it up and they just backed up into 00:35:47
scratching. 00:35:50
So he definitely wants to disconnect those. 00:35:54
Yeah, but then the other issue is something totally separate. 00:35:57
Yeah, OK. 00:36:00
Does that make sense? Mm-hmm. 00:36:02
Yes it does. I appreciate it. 00:36:03
Yep. Thanks, Casey. 00:36:05
And and Randy, I, I thought I read something about maybe some toilets overflowing too during or is that a separate issue? And then 00:36:07
so we did experience that. 00:36:11
Actually. 00:36:17
I met with the fire department because right when they put the pumping station in. 00:36:18
All of our. 00:36:22
Toilets were bubbling. 00:36:23
I've not experienced that. I believe that they've got that resolved. 00:36:24
In the fire department. 00:36:28
And I've talked so OK. 00:36:30
They haven't said anything about their toilets. 00:36:33
This is the first time that Denny's ever said anything to me about that. 00:36:35
I've not been told about that other than this e-mail. 00:36:40
Alright, so what's the plan? 00:36:46
Sydney When can you? How fast can you? 00:36:47
Effect repairs on. 00:36:50
What's on your docket with that? 00:36:52
We can get it started going next week. 00:36:55
Tomorrow. Tomorrow. 00:36:59
Next week, tomorrow, I mean, whatever. 00:37:04
OK. So do we have a point like do you all know what the plan? 00:37:08
No, we just got this. 00:37:12
Could formulate one with an excavator, but you know, somebody's got to pay for that. 00:37:16
Sounds great. So I think what there's just to clarify there. 00:37:21
Directing them. 00:37:24
The county to work on fixing the. 00:37:26
One pipe that we're aware of, I think that. 00:37:28
Would be beneficial for you to disconnect all the other ones because they shouldn't be connected anyways. 00:37:31
And then I think as far as the plan for the other drainage problem going into the building is something that they will need to 00:37:36
evaluate and direct staff to evaluate. 00:37:40
Then that that plan and what you're asking about would come back for this board for official approval before anything is taken as 00:37:44
far as that property, if that helps. Kind of like the person before you. 00:37:49
We're not gonna say yeah, go fix it at 80 grand or whatever. 00:37:55
OK. Or we need to look at it a little bit farther? 00:37:59
And, umm. 00:38:02
People are in the room to take care of it. 00:38:03
Great. Thank you. All right. 00:38:06
Thanks so much. All right. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. 00:38:07
Nick Goddard. 00:38:14
Good evening. 00:38:20
Nick Cutter I live at 3006 Master Drive and. 00:38:22
I'm here on behalf of my wife and kids. 00:38:26
Because they want to pull so. 00:38:28
I'm needing needing a variance. 00:38:30
Drainage East Mid that runs through our property. 00:38:33
Spoke to Chris on the phone. 00:38:36
Hey Cortana, walk me through the process of what I needed to do so. 00:38:38
That's longer. 00:38:42
So I've submitted. 00:38:44
You know, somewhat. 00:38:46
You know the plot plan of our. 00:38:48
Backyard. 00:38:50
Kind of showing where the pool would go. 00:38:51
How far it you know impedes into the drainage easement? 00:38:55
So, and this would be 1 where we would want to, if you're inclined to approve that, that that be approved contingent on a waiver 00:39:00
and release being signed and recorded. 00:39:04
I believe this. 00:39:12
Couple folks at our property yesterday. 00:39:13
Looking in the backyard. 00:39:16
So I do have a general question for the evening. 00:39:19
We went back there yesterday just to look at the drainage. If you have a black fence on your property, are you proposing that this 00:39:22
pool would be inside that black fence, or would you have to take that black fence down in the back to put the pool? 00:39:29
The black fence back up. 00:39:37
Further further back so. 00:39:38
The fence is highlighted on the plot map that you often see it there. 00:39:41
Basically, we wouldn't be coming in from the back, would be coming in from front up our driveway and so that fence. 00:39:45
The on the backside would not be touched. 00:39:51
Be touched at all. 00:39:54
The pool would be essentially 5 feet off of that. 00:39:55
Fence which is 6 inches off of the property line. 00:39:58
Basically. 00:40:05
I believe when they developed the neighborhood I can understand where that drink easement made sense, but. 00:40:06
Where our house sat and we. 00:40:11
Built the home. We've raised the foundation of the floor plan. 00:40:13
So we've brought everything up. So not everything kind of basically drains our ground in between our houses. So it's more flat 00:40:17
back there. 00:40:21
In going out there. 00:40:28
Umm, we went to the right hand side it. 00:40:30
His fence and his neighbor fence on the right hand side are fairly close to each other. I mean it's probably a three foot gap 00:40:33
between both fences. It's it's rocked and everything else. 00:40:37
Any added drainage to there? 00:40:42
It caused the neighborhood on the right a little bit. 00:40:44
Of concern and everything else their yard is not as nice as. 00:40:47
Mr. Cutters So there's a lot of. 00:40:50
Soil, exposed soil and everything else. 00:40:53
But it's just. 00:40:56
Mr. Cutter could get. 00:40:57
The drainage from. 00:40:59
The new pool and everything to go to the left where there's a lot more room. 00:41:00
You know that would. 00:41:04
Help the situation. 00:41:06
Everything else, any drainage that's coming down. 00:41:07
From the neighboring properties. 00:41:10
Up above him is all draining towards him, so he's getting that water anyway. 00:41:12
But again. 00:41:17
Any water or drainage that he. 00:41:19
That they do by putting this pooling goes to the right. I do have a little reservation, but to the left. 00:41:21
The same would would work better. 00:41:28
Is the primary concern. 00:41:31
The surface area that the pool is taking up, causing drainage to go elsewhere? Is it the water that's within the pool that you're 00:41:32
worried about? 00:41:36
Or both. I mean, you don't. 00:41:41
This doesn't drain out to any. 00:41:42
No, it's just drained it run off, right. So it's going to run off from the and basically the way it works now there's actually 00:41:45
we're the high point. 00:41:48
Have shots and elevations to check and. 00:41:52
Basically where the pool. 00:41:55
Would go. 00:41:56
The water actually starts to fall to the left neighbor. 00:41:58
So. 00:42:01
The water would come in. 00:42:02
It almost there's a crown there at the high point, so. 00:42:04
Anything from the pool side? 00:42:07
But actually go to the left. 00:42:09
Where the ground existing is currently. 00:42:11
I've shot those elevations just on my own. I don't have any documentation that but. 00:42:15
Currently that's how everything works now flawlessly there's. 00:42:20
That I mean, we never had any standing water anywhere. 00:42:23
Does the 12 feet, does that also include the concrete? 00:42:29
Sat like the walk around it or is that the the dimension of the pool? 00:42:31
Which 12 feet are you referencing? The pool? The 12 by 24? Is there a concrete apron around it? There will be a 12 foot concrete 00:42:35
apron around it. 00:42:38
Yes, or I'm sorry, a 2 foot concrete apron around it. 00:42:42
Are there two different? 00:42:47
Is that cool? And is that a pool house? 00:42:49
But that is a. 00:42:51
Proposed if I was to. 00:42:53
You know, phase two maybe if I was to do something, I put that in there. 00:42:55
That's not something that has to be gone, but. 00:42:59
Pool house. 00:43:02
I didn't know if that was something separate since it's a. 00:43:03
Structure that's. 00:43:06
Break it and it's on the roof. I don't know if that would be a different drainage so. 00:43:08
He's basically wanting to. 00:43:13
Did you build your home? 00:43:18
I was heavily involved, but Witten was a contractor. 00:43:21
I did all the site work and did you? 00:43:23
Neighbor build. 00:43:27
Is there her home? 00:43:28
It was a written. 00:43:31
Neighborhood Some women don't all come. 00:43:33
And have you talked to your neighbor about this? I've talked to both of them. My neighbor to the right actually wants me to let 00:43:36
them know how it goes because he wants to put one in maybe as well. So he's waiting for. 00:43:41
My direction on how this thing goes. 00:43:47
Guinea pig. Yeah, I'm the Guinea pig. 00:43:49
Fortunately, like I said, we're the high point on this. 00:43:52
Section of the neighborhood. 00:43:55
And when we. 00:43:57
We were the first home in so we. 00:43:58
Set the precedent by raising the elevations which brought all the. 00:44:00
The grading around the properties hub, so there. 00:44:04
Is less of. 00:44:07
Water coming off that back. 00:44:08
I can't rule what the neighborhood was behind us there. 00:44:10
That's directly across Gulf View Court. 00:44:16
The neighbors behind us are. 00:44:20
Golfland. That's golfland right across from the golf course, right? 00:44:21
Yes, yeah. 00:44:25
So if you pull in there. 00:44:27
The one on the right golf land and then got another one. 00:44:29
On the other side of that. 00:44:32
The neighbors behind us as well. 00:44:37
Are both. 00:44:40
I have verbal agreements from them I can. 00:44:42
Get written agreements if I need to but they wanted me to see how tonight goes 1st and. 00:44:44
I'd like to see something in writing from the OK I can get those if you want me to just e-mail those to you. 00:44:49
And then we don't do we have any professional? 00:44:55
Third party assessment of what they think the impact of this is going to be. 00:45:00
Or have you put any assessment in writing on it? 00:45:05
What do you feel the impact would be? 00:45:09
Pitch to the board. 00:45:12
To verify the rating of the property would make those before we go to those nuts that's not, I think there's a lot more area for 00:45:19
that water consumption to the ground. 00:45:24
And everything else. 00:45:30
And I think if I could see. 00:45:34
Plan for that. 00:45:36
And then input from the neighbors then. 00:45:38
Then I think we're there. 00:45:41
A plan for that? Is that something to take it to? 00:45:43
Something that you guys are going to have to be able to agree on that you can show us. This is not not only that, I think, I think 00:45:46
it's going to go to the left. 00:45:50
Where it needs to go to the lab, it's something that says it needs to go to the left and it's going to go to the left because this 00:45:53
is what we're doing to make it go to the left. 00:45:56
That makes it I'm just a. 00:46:00
I would ask that. 00:46:01
LESB necessary even that formal as well as our engineer signs out. But you had said that you'd shot some elevations, but you 00:46:07
didn't have it here tonight, so it might be easy to reproduce those perhaps. 00:46:11
Uh, yeah, I can. 00:46:16
So I think with all that said, my recommendation would be it that it be contingent upon. 00:46:18
The neighbors. 00:46:24
Him providing proof that the neighbors are agreeable to this. 00:46:25
The county engineer reviewing the site and the flow. 00:46:29
Coming off the property as well as the waiver, indemnification and release that we would typically have property owners sign, 00:46:33
which I can include in their language that all the flow should go to the left as well. 00:46:37
Yeah, I mean, I'm. 00:46:43
I would just table the matter until we get that rather than. That's fine as well. If you want to wait for the first two things, we 00:46:44
still would want it contingent on that approval. 00:46:48
So if you're inclined to just table it until we have the first two things, the neighbors and the county engineer review of it. 00:46:53
Then we can address, we'll still want the waiver release indemnification, but then at least you have two of those three boxes 00:47:00
checked. 00:47:03
And I not think Mr. Cutter is aware what that waiver of. We normally draft it and send it. It's perfectly fine. 00:47:07
So you get those first two things, we'll get the waiver to you. 00:47:13
And. 00:47:18
Bring it back to the next meeting. 00:47:20
I would just add this real quick. 00:47:22
We've we've provided variances in the easement in the past. 00:47:24
Generally it's like one or two feet. 00:47:27
This one's taken up the whole easement. 00:47:30
And you know, as a surveyor, our duty is to protect the public. 00:47:32
And as far as the public easement? 00:47:35
They do protect the public. 00:47:37
So I'm probably a no on this just out of the gate. 00:47:39
Just we're taking up the whole easement and. 00:47:42
Would a visual of the property. 00:47:45
Potentially. 00:47:47
You know, sway your. 00:47:49
No vote. Well, it's just going to limit significantly what can be done in the back in the future. I mean, you sat here and heard 00:47:50
the first two people come in. 00:47:54
You know, we're preventing problems for for everybody. So totally understand. I, I get the. 00:47:58
100% agree with. 00:48:03
The purpose of drainage easements and what they're meant to do. 00:48:04
Like I said, on paper, I see how this is a Oh my gosh, this is taking up a whole easement this looks. 00:48:07
A lot more drastic than what it does visually in person. 00:48:15
Like I said, because this was before the house was built. 00:48:18
We changed the way it actually works now. 00:48:22
So now everything goes around the property. So based on what's here versus what the visual is, it's different. That's why. 00:48:25
What a visual picture. 00:48:31
Say, OK, this looks a lot different than what's on the channel. I think the concern is that of the 15 foot easement back there, 00:48:33
you're using 10 of the 15. You're only leaving five of the 15, right? Well, actually even more than that once you put the concrete 00:48:38
on there. 00:48:42
Right. So you're talking about using, not leaving much of anything is I think what Mr. Brinkworth is. 00:48:47
So. 00:48:53
Looking at your house. 00:48:56
Why don't you just move the pool? 00:48:58
To looks like the end of the driveway. 00:49:00
Because that's where all the underground utilities kind of. 00:49:03
So it would be. 00:49:05
Directly at the top of the utilities there I can't put there. 00:49:07
Yeah, I would love to have it there, but. 00:49:09
OK, what's part of having a visual? I don't see where it could hurt. 00:49:12
Your cause? 00:49:16
He's he's already a no vote. 00:49:18
Right then this happened to be more of a Novo based on the visual. 00:49:20
And if it comes to that, I'm happy to go out there. 00:49:24
And walk it just. 00:49:27
Can you see something? Sometimes just. 00:49:28
Boots on the ground is the way to go. And if it comes to that, John? 00:49:31
Invite you to go with me so you can. 00:49:34
Kind of explain your concerns to me as well. 00:49:36
Actually, I think I'm going to come too, just because I, I have to agree with John's assessment. You know, it's a lot of ease of 00:49:38
being taken up here. So I'm. 00:49:41
I'm not. 00:49:45
Going to say that I'm Lenovo, but I. 00:49:45
I'm willing to give it a chance, but there is a whole lot of easement here that's being taken up so and I agree with this 00:49:47
assessment that. 00:49:50
These easements are designed. 00:49:53
Protect other people, so most definitely. 00:49:54
So I think. 00:49:57
If you can, we'll table them. I'm going to proposally table the matter here in a second. And then if you could get input from your 00:49:58
neighbors and then from the county engineer. 00:50:02
After which we can come out and take a look at it then. 00:50:07
Well, the input from the county engineer. Do I need to work with you? Who do I? 00:50:10
He'll facilitate that for you. OK. All right. Thank you. I want to propose. 00:50:16
Make a motion we table this issue. 00:50:23
Also moved. 00:50:25
All in favor. 00:50:27
Aye. 00:50:28
OK. 00:50:30
Chris. 00:50:34
We have a long term maintenance agreement in front of you for Summit Ridge Commons, the development along Hwy. 150. 00:50:36
They are, we are asking them to do a long term maintenance because they came in front of you at the last meeting for. 00:50:44
Smaller orifice eyes and for. 00:50:51
Did upon holding. 00:50:54
Water longer than the 36 hour requirement. That's per ordinance. 00:50:56
Those were both approved. 00:51:01
And in order to do so, we ask that they do a long term maintenance agreement. 00:51:03
I think we've had a few issues with getting these recorded with the Recorders office, Christy sent an e-mail earlier. 00:51:07
Explaining how we need to. 00:51:16
Correct these long term maintenance agreements. 00:51:18
I asked that it get signed, but if you wanted to. 00:51:21
Sign it outside of a meeting while me and Kirsty worked out the bugs of this current long term maintenance agreement to include 00:51:26
the things that the recorder wants to record it per her. 00:51:32
Requirements. 00:51:37
I would ask that the board do so. 00:51:39
And I would just request it to go ahead and be signed. Let me work through some of those things that I may be able to fix after 00:51:41
signature and then we'll go from there if we need to execute a new one. 00:51:46
Outside of the meeting. 00:51:50
Looking for a motion to approve? 00:51:56
Yes, you so moved. 00:51:57
2nd. 00:52:01
All in favor. 00:52:04
Aye. 00:52:06
Do you have any public comment? 00:52:10
Deal Man, Georgetown. 00:52:19
Before you guys got here, I thought it was under ordinance and anything. 00:52:21
A developer done up here. 00:52:24
He hadn't fixed what was down there. 00:52:26
That should be in our ordinances. 00:52:28
And we heard two, two people come up. Something happened. 00:52:30
Because of them problems. 00:52:33
And also with with Colin with his. 00:52:35
We make mistakes. 00:52:38
Our engineers make mistakes. 00:52:41
A copyright that there's, there's room. You've got to look. Somebody might have made a mistake for that Lady. 00:52:43
Just because it got all OK. 00:52:48
Somebody could have made a mistake. I never hear anything about that. 00:52:50
Well, copyright. What's wrong? 00:52:54
Godfrey do it. 00:52:56
But people make mistakes. 00:52:59
And it was it's in our ordinance. If it, if it do it up here, if this is new up here. 00:53:01
And you cause problems down here. You've got to fix it all before we let you do it up here. 00:53:05
That's why stormwater was supposed to be in. 00:53:09
And I'm sure it's still our ordinances. 00:53:11
And we're not going power ordinances. Thank you. 00:53:13
Anyone else? 00:53:19
Oh, I'll just make a comment to to Mr. Mann's. 00:53:23
Comment I mean I. 00:53:25
I'd like to have a review of that just to see whether or not that that is still. 00:53:28
If it's not the letter. 00:53:34
The ordinance. 00:53:36
Perhaps it's still the intent. 00:53:38
My opinion should still be the intent. 00:53:40
So and. 00:53:43
Let's try to come back and and publicly answer that at the next meeting then. 00:53:45
And I have no further comment beyond that. 00:53:50
Motion adjourn. 00:53:53
Sing. 00:53:57
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Event transcript
Stormwater Meeting. You'll join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:00
I pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:00:03
Of the United States of America. 00:00:05
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:07
OK. 00:00:20
Looking for approval of the July Minutes. 00:00:21
Motion to approve and I'll second. 00:00:26
All in favor. 00:00:28
Aye. 00:00:30
Daily maintenance reports Chris in your. 00:00:36
Packet. The first thing we have is a invoice for Ohm. 00:00:39
OOHM advance. 00:00:45
Uh, advising. 00:00:48
I don't know if. 00:00:50
At Stan, I think we have enough. It's for $137. 00:00:51
That's the only invoice I have this month. 00:00:54
One never knows. 00:00:58
So I'm looking for approval on. 00:00:59
The invoice. 00:01:02
Make a motion to approve. 00:01:04
I'll second. 00:01:06
All in favor. 00:01:08
Aye, aye. 00:01:09
And in your packet you'll also see the. 00:01:11
Daily maintenance reports. 00:01:15
There was The highway department did a lot of work in the woods, Lafayette subdivision fixing and cleaning and. 00:01:17
Repairing catch basins. They also did a lot of work along Borden Rd. 00:01:24
Chapel Hill. 00:01:29
Road. 00:01:30
In that area, Scottsville and Chapel Hill Rd. 00:01:31
That's not all, but those are just highlighted areas and everything else. New cut Rd. and everything else. 00:01:35
Lot of tile work, some ditching. 00:01:41
Along Borden Rd. 00:01:43
A lot of tile work in catch basin repairs and everything else. 00:01:45
When it comes to the back truck, there was only one of the. 00:01:50
One of the items that showed that the back truck was out. 00:01:54
I think Sydney was supposed to be here today. 00:01:57
Yeah. 00:02:03
Couldn't miss him with that shirt on. 00:02:04
Exactly. 00:02:07
Came in right behind me. 00:02:08
Slow month for the back truck only handed out two times. 00:02:12
Want to excavate a? 00:02:16
Covered issue in a subdivision. 00:02:19
To get down so you safely. 00:02:21
Repair. 00:02:23
And the other one was to do a lot of. 00:02:24
Hydro excavating for. 00:02:26
Weight limit signs that were emergency. 00:02:27
Install. 00:02:30
We spent a couple days doing that. 00:02:31
As far as that goes. 00:02:33
As far as the back truck. 00:02:34
July was pretty dry. 00:02:36
So to speak, compared to May and June. 00:02:38
So we weren't on cleaning cupboards or ditches or. 00:02:40
You catch basins. They were all pretty much caught up. 00:02:43
So with the paving issues going on. 00:02:46
The stuff that Chris is talking about on. 00:02:48
Chapel Hill Rd. Scottsville Rd. 00:02:51
All the pay areas that we paid. 00:02:54
Most of our people have been tied up getting those ready for paving. 00:02:56
And making it through this paving progress, which we finished up this week. 00:02:59
And now we'll be back to normal operations. 00:03:03
For a short time. 00:03:05
Mm-hmm. Great. 00:03:06
I've been watching all the work you guys been doing. You've been. 00:03:09
Like you've been out there a lot, so thanks to your guys, they've done a lot of. 00:03:11
A lot of work, Yep. 00:03:15
Thank you, We're still getting daily requests for more of your work so. 00:03:17
People love it. 00:03:21
Really. Yeah. 00:03:23
Job security. 00:03:25
All right, old business. 00:03:30
Erosion control summary with heritage. 00:03:32
Good evening, Casey Young with Heritage. 00:03:37
Pretty straightforward month again, we should have a summary there showing that. 00:03:43
5 dormant sites. 24 compliance sites. 00:03:48
Five with high probability of off-site segmentation, then two showing evidence of offsite segmentation. 00:03:51
I'll draw your attention to. 00:03:57
Three of them kind of the repeat offenders that have multiple dates on there just showing that it's been back back months. The 00:03:59
Anderson Avenue Ext, when we reached out to the developer on that one and they were under the impression that that. 00:04:04
The final service layer had already been poured. 00:04:10
It hasn't. We did our inspection already in the North too, so he's gonna check with his contractor and figure out what's going on 00:04:12
there. 00:04:15
And try and push that one along for us. 00:04:18
And will give us an update. 00:04:20
Whenever he knows more Bridlewood that's been on there a couple months now. 00:04:21
We were told that the contractor was going to address the issue within the next couple of days, so that one should be. 00:04:27
Good to go for this month. We'll double check obviously. 00:04:32
Another one. 00:04:37
Was the. 00:04:39
Westfield springs #38 On the back. 00:04:43
They've been on. 00:04:46
The list for two months now. 00:04:49
And we've been told that the work will be completed. 00:04:51
By Thursday, I think that was last Thursday, I haven't had a chance to talk to Garrett yet. 00:04:55
But if that is not been rectified, then Chris and I were playing on schedule an on site meeting with them just to let them know 00:05:00
the urgency of that one since it is off site. 00:05:04
Sedimentation and. 00:05:09
Trying to get them to get that under compliance before the next board meeting. 00:05:10
Any questions on any of the other ones? 00:05:15
No, I like the little notes there and that's helpful. 00:05:16
Good. Thank you. 00:05:19
All right. Thank you, guys. 00:05:21
Thank you. 00:05:23
Stantec. 00:05:26
Good afternoon. Kristen Hughes with Stantec and I'm joined by Mike Green, who's also with Stantec. 00:05:36
We are. 00:05:43
Giving a quick organizational update, I have been. 00:05:44
My role at Stantec has been shifting, so I'm traveling quite a bit. So Mike Green will be serving as the project manager moving 00:05:48
forward, but I will still be. 00:05:53
In the background, supporting from a quality assurance, quality control perspective, we thought this would be a good opportunity 00:05:58
for Mike to introduce himself. He and I have worked together for over 20 years. 00:06:03
So I'll hand it up over to Mike. 00:06:09
Yeah, stole my Thunder. Yeah, I've been working with Kristen for over 20 years, just not directly with you all. 00:06:11
26 years. 00:06:16
At Stan Tech in the last. 00:06:18
2223 primarily working with water. 00:06:21
And flooding. And storm. 00:06:25
So should be easy transition and like she said she's not going anywhere. So if I have any questions or anything obviously. 00:06:26
Talk with her, but my face is what you'll be seeing. 00:06:34
Great. 00:06:37
Nice to meet you, have you? 00:06:38
And good luck. 00:06:39
Yeah. 00:06:40
Amanda. 00:06:44
Good evening. 00:06:54
I'm need your name and address if you don't mind. 00:06:55
Amanda Steinberg, 4201 Nell Smith Rd. 00:06:59
Thank you. 00:07:03
You're welcome. 00:07:03
I'm a resident there and I was here about a year ago. 00:07:05
About flooding issues. 00:07:09
And. 00:07:11
I'm back. 00:07:13
Because I haven't gotten any better. 00:07:13
In fact, there's more erosion. 00:07:15
Were the ditches. 00:07:18
I don't know if you if you guys recall any of the memory of my conversation previously, but I did send an e-mail out with pictures 00:07:19
and some. 00:07:23
Conversation. 00:07:27
Addressing that, but now we also have Rock Ridge. 00:07:28
Across the street. 00:07:32
Is developing 23 patio homes. 00:07:33
And they're connecting to. 00:07:36
The underground. 00:07:38
Waterway that goes to our ditch, so now we have additional water. 00:07:39
Which is one of the reasons I asked for moratorium last year and couldn't get it. 00:07:43
I was just wondering if. 00:07:48
You guys are willing to do anything about it? 00:07:51
My neighbors. 00:07:56
Catch basin that she had paid to put in. 00:07:58
Years ago. 00:08:00
Correctly. 00:08:02
It's falling in. 00:08:03
And then I have more of my. 00:08:05
Land caving in. 00:08:07
And. 00:08:09
From when we have really bad storms or a lot of water, so. 00:08:10
The more impervious surfaces you all add, the more water we're getting. 00:08:14
And it really is causing damage. 00:08:19
OK, I see your pictures and the only thing I can suggest is. 00:08:26
I follow the staff here and the engineer and. 00:08:32
Whatever they suggest is what we're gonna. 00:08:35
Be following them on. 00:08:38
Understood. 00:08:40
I'm not so bear with Rock Ridge did that. 00:08:42
Can you fill us in on that one? 00:08:46
Yeah, I was missing that would have been city approval, but ultimately would have probably had to come through here for the Rock 00:08:48
Ridge is, as Amanda said, is a development across the. 00:08:52
Mel Smith rode from her. 00:08:57
Is it direct? I know where your home is. Is it directly across the street? I know, pretty close. 00:08:59
OK, I didn't know where that. Thank you. She says that the drainage. 00:09:04
Goes across and comes onto her. It actually doesn't. 00:09:10
Their detention pond actually releases. 00:09:14
Back behind. 00:09:17
Across the street, there's a house across the street. Already there it actually. 00:09:19
The detention pond releases there, it goes back behind that house and then. 00:09:22
Go wraps around it goes to Bald Knob Creek. 00:09:25
Over there on that side. 00:09:29
And and everything else. So it's not coming there that the. 00:09:31
The only water that is coming there is the regular roadside drainage that would. 00:09:34
That was going there anyway. I mean, Heritage is the one that reviewed the plans and. 00:09:39
You know we. 00:09:44
We met with the contractors and. 00:09:45
Verified that. 00:09:47
That's where the water was going not to. 00:09:48
People on the other side of the road anymore water issues and everything else. 00:09:51
Again. 00:09:57
I know that Amanda sent those pictures out there. Heavy rainfall event the the apartment complex. 00:09:58
Adeline, I believe it's called apartments. 00:10:06
Their detention pond does drain that way. 00:10:09
Towards her backyard and honestly. 00:10:12
Her backyard is the headwaters for a little tributary that eventually goes into Jacob's Creek, so there's always been water there. 00:10:15
Is there erosion? There could be erosion. 00:10:24
You get erosion whenever you. 00:10:27
Mow the grass. 00:10:30
You know, have a nice manicured yard and. 00:10:31
The grass is only, you know, a couple inches high and doesn't allow the root system to help with erosion and everything else. 00:10:34
She had called or sent an e-mail. 00:10:41
With the pictures we went out the next. 00:10:45
Or that same day, just a few hours later and it was dry. So I mean it, it flowed, it went. 00:10:46
Downstream. 00:10:52
I I just don't see where. 00:10:54
It's a county issue. 00:10:57
For us to take on at this point, I think it's more of a. 00:10:59
Private property issue. There's no easements or anything. 00:11:02
Is it affecting her and her neighbor? 00:11:06
Probably yes, but if there's no easement, it's not getting into any structures it's not a danger to. 00:11:09
Health or emergency services. 00:11:15
So I mean those are our criterias for doing projects. It it has one of the. 00:11:18
The four that we look at I just. 00:11:24
Don't recommend. 00:11:27
The county or the board? 00:11:28
Taking on any project there at this time. 00:11:29
Horatio is. 00:11:32
In the audience to view. 00:11:33
Won't ask him any questions about it. 00:11:35
Certainly. 00:11:45
So they do have a retention pond at Rockbridge. 00:11:47
However, and there was a previous underneath Mel Smith Rd. which I had talked about last year coming from Church on the Rock. 00:11:52
Because we get all their water. 00:11:59
OK, but now Rockridge has attached a little drainage part. 00:12:01
From their side of the road. 00:12:05
To that. 00:12:07
So now you've got the church and you have Rock Ridge. 00:12:08
And yes, there is a retainage pond over here. 00:12:11
As far as erosion, I have sinkholes in my yard. 00:12:14
Like, literally. 00:12:18
Dirt. 00:12:19
Grass missing? 00:12:20
And my neighbor. 00:12:22
Like as I stated, her catch basin is. 00:12:24
Deteriorating from the water flow and the damage. 00:12:28
So what was once built up? 00:12:31
The correct way that she paid for is now being torn down from the water damage and I do pay Floyd County taxes. 00:12:34
And it is a Floyd County issue because help me understand how. 00:12:41
If I were to. 00:12:47
Let's just say. 00:12:48
That's Chris explain this when he came out the very first time if I were to build a dam. 00:12:51
And that dam causes damage to my neighbor's property. I'm responsible. 00:12:56
Right. 00:13:00
So how is it that you're allowed to attach water? 00:13:01
From these buildings that's being approved to be built. 00:13:04
To our property. It causes damage, but nobody's responsible. 00:13:07
Help me understand that. 00:13:10
Please. 00:13:12
I don't know that I can address that. 00:13:14
But I I would ask you a question. 00:13:16
Do you have a suggestion on how you could fix your property? 00:13:18
I had told common receiver via e-mail that he should have dug since he was attaching and you got all this impervious surfaces. So 00:13:21
now we're past the wood of shoulda CUDA. 00:13:26
So now I'm asking you. 00:13:31
All the way back. That's big enough. 00:13:34
To hold that water flow that comes. 00:13:35
That just destroying our property. 00:13:38
Dig a ditch on your property. 00:13:40
Dig a ditch throughout the whole back that connects to Jacob's Creek. 00:13:41
I mean it flows. 00:13:45
I have ponds in my backyard, in my neighbor's backyard because, and I will admit we sit lower than the other people. That's closer 00:13:46
to Adeline. 00:13:50
But still, I mean the little ditch that's there. 00:13:54
Is not big enough. 00:13:57
To hold the water when the storms come. 00:13:59
Not not even the one that's built beside a house. 00:14:01
That. 00:14:04
Brings the water from under Mel Smith. 00:14:05
From the new Rockridge development and Rock. 00:14:07
Church on the Rock. 00:14:10
It's not big enough. 00:14:11
That's been my whole point all along. 00:14:13
OK, I remember. 00:14:15
Previous. 00:14:19
I'm meeting with you when you were here. 00:14:21
Year ago you're in change with hoods. 00:14:23
I believe. 00:14:25
There was a suggestion that maybe you would. 00:14:26
Talk with Colin directly on that. And I don't know whether you made the attempt, whether you guys did sit down because I just I. 00:14:28
If it happened, I'm not Privy to emails, so his suggestion is is that it is on us. Once again, he agrees with Chris. 00:14:34
And that we should pay his engineer to develop a plan and pay to have all that duck. 00:14:42
But again my question is, is help it make sense that if? 00:14:48
You guys are attaching your water. You're approving this building. 00:14:51
You're approving them to attach the water to what's our land. That's not an easement for you all. 00:14:55
And it's damaging. How is it on us? 00:14:59
The Residence. 00:15:03
I have the lady that lives beside me, she's on Social Security. 00:15:03
The gentleman, at least beside me, He's on Social Security Disability. The guy before that? 00:15:07
Is people can't afford to. 00:15:12
To get a backhoe and build architectural plans and I mean. 00:15:14
That that's unrealistic. 00:15:18
How long have you been there? 00:15:21
I've been there since August of 2024. 00:15:22
OK. And it's done. 00:15:25
A lot of damage since then. 00:15:27
Has historically that property. 00:15:28
Held water even before these. 00:15:30
Pizza so. 00:15:32
To address that, Mister Receiver. 00:15:34
Knew that there was previous water issues and said that he would not do anything. 00:15:36
He would. He would build his structures. 00:15:41
To not add to the existing problems or his verbatim words in his proposals. But what I'm asking is, is that before that project 00:15:44
even started? Do you know if that that? 00:15:49
Property had a history of retaining water already since it sits lower. 00:15:54
I'm assuming yes since my neighbor had built what she had built. 00:15:58
With the. 00:16:03
I guess you would call it a catch basin. 00:16:04
Did they disclose that to you? 00:16:07
Did they just look? No. 00:16:09
OK. Nothing was disclosed to me in the purchase of the property. 00:16:11
And with the photo that you sent. 00:16:20
Which one? I sent a couple. 00:16:24
On that one. So how long will that? 00:16:26
Again. 00:16:30
It's variable depending on how saturated the ground is, how much rain comes. 00:16:31
Thereafter, but. 00:16:34
Can I approach the whole minute to point out something on there? 00:16:36
I'm sorry, can I approach it? 00:16:39
So right here. 00:16:42
That's her catch basin. That's the hole that's now in my yard from all the water. 00:16:46
That's a whole thing. 00:16:51
And so my question is how? 00:16:52
Long does water stand there? 00:16:54
How long after that photo was taken? 00:16:56
I think I would say it dissipates within 24 hours. 00:16:59
Hours, depending on how much rain. Like if there's more rain that comes. Yeah. Yeah, I know. Yeah. And then how much was there 00:17:03
before? Sure. 00:17:06
And then and. I'm not asking this facetiously, but. 00:17:09
Are there any other anticipated developments on that road at this point in time? Is there anything on the drawing board or? 00:17:13
Be part of the village is just up the ways. Oh yeah. 00:17:20
So that's being developed. 00:17:24
So I'm talking anything else in the planning stage that is likely to come before this board. 00:17:28
That's in the fridge and. 00:17:33
We are not Privy to. 00:17:35
Right, but eventually. 00:17:37
For the storm water. 00:17:41
Approval. It has to come before here regardless of whether the city approved it or not, correct or not. 00:17:42
Their initial approval, then it goes to us like, hey, we got approval through Guwahati, now it's time for stormwater period. 00:17:48
Look, we don't get it. 00:17:55
Essay on the appro. 00:17:57
Yeah. No, no, no approval or oversight on the development itself. 00:17:59
Just on whether or not they have proper. 00:18:04
Drainage and detention within within their development not. 00:18:06
Those are done in staff review. 00:18:12
Right. 00:18:16
Right, right. 00:18:21
I mean, to the degree that I would have any authority over, I would be very. 00:18:26
Reticent to allow any further development along that but. 00:18:28
Again, you know. 00:18:32
I don't know that I have any say over it one way or the other. 00:18:34
The way that the ordinances are structured. To your original point, I agree with you. It seems a little bit **** eyed at times 00:18:37
because. 00:18:39
It's like how come is. 00:18:42
On a personal. 00:18:44
Issues liable, but when government is not. 00:18:45
And, you know, that's kind of the nature of government and. 00:18:48
You're we're part of that government. 00:18:52
Sometimes anybody that sits on this board becomes at the people that came before and afters will be on there. 00:18:54
You know when you go vote and when you're here tonight, you're part of governance and that type of thing, but. 00:18:59
I would have to defer to someone with a more. 00:19:03
Legally trained mind than mine when it comes to why is that the case, it's just kind of. 00:19:06
A beast that's been built out over the years, correct? 00:19:12
All I can tell you from this scene is that. 00:19:15
You know. 00:19:17
Given the opportunity, if something was going to go across the street from you with these photographs at this point in time. 00:19:18
I personally. 00:19:23
Can't see where I could. 00:19:24
Could go for that. 00:19:26
But. 00:19:27
That's as far as I can really can take that tonight. 00:19:29
I, you know, I again, I, I'm happy to sit down and try to broker it one-on-one. 00:19:31
Face to face meeting between you and Colin but it sounds like. 00:19:36
You guys have? 00:19:39
Kind of talk that out through the emails asked not to go on his property anymore because the last time I took some of the pictures 00:19:40
of his retention. I don't do any damage and I don't like try to wait in his pond or measure how deep it is or anything crazy. I 00:19:47
just go and take pictures. He followed the ordinances I believe to the letter and maybe even a little bit further than. 00:19:53
Than what was. 00:19:59
Quote UN quote required. 00:20:00
I mean to my knowledge of it and again I. 00:20:02
Are you talking about his water drainage from Adeline? 00:20:04
From whatever the one on the corner of Grant Line Apartments, that's common receivers property, correct? 00:20:07
I mean, I went over there during the construction phase of it and saw. 00:20:13
Everything that was being put in. 00:20:16
On that basin. 00:20:19
And to the degree that it's worked the way that it was engineered to work or not, I. 00:20:21
I can't say because I. 00:20:25
I'm not an engineer. 00:20:26
Right. 00:20:28
But that still doesn't help with the water that's being distributed and directed towards the back of our properties that's 00:20:30
destroying our. 00:20:33
Or land basically. 00:20:36
And there's trees back there too. 00:20:37
A lot. 00:20:39
So how many pieces of property do you think are? 00:20:40
Involved. 00:20:44
If you count that besides yours, OK. If you count the house next to column receiver. 00:20:46
That's one. 00:20:51
The next house is, I want to say Ryan, that's two. Then you've got Eric three, I'm 4. Marcy's five. There's another 16. 00:20:52
And I want to say. 00:21:01
There's another one that could possibly be 7 but I'm not sure because. 00:21:03
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, Horatio came back there and we were looking at the ditch that. 00:21:07
It's connected to Jacob's Creek, I think you said. 00:21:11
Yeah. 00:21:15
So at least 6. 00:21:16
My point? 00:21:18
Is you got 6 on your side of the road? 00:21:19
And you've got what you. 00:21:22
Are saying is the problem on the other side of the road? 00:21:24
It's on the same side. 00:21:28
OK, so. 00:21:29
Let's just say they're 6. 00:21:33
OK. 00:21:34
So to me, I would. 00:21:36
Call. 00:21:38
An excavating company. 00:21:40
Show them your pictures. 00:21:42
And say, what do you think? 00:21:44
How would you fix this and how much does it cost? 00:21:46
And then go to those six people and say we can fix this. 00:21:49
For this much money. 00:21:53
And then you could reduce the cost at least five times. 00:21:55
Instead of I mean this has been a year or so. 00:22:01
You've been there since 24, so right. But as I stated. 00:22:04
Marcy next to me is on Social Security. 00:22:08
I understand Social Security disability. Colin already proposed this and I was said there's. 00:22:10
There's no way that we all can afford that. 00:22:14
And I did get 3 different quotes from excavating companies. What kind of dollars are we talking? 00:22:16
Well, the highest was 20 grand. 00:22:21
What's the lowest? And that was? 00:22:23
13. 00:22:26
OK. 00:22:27
But again. 00:22:29
The storm guard approved the water to be distributed behind our property. 00:22:32
So if it's if it's not an easement for you all. 00:22:36
Then how is it you're able to attached? 00:22:39
And it damaged our property. 00:22:41
Oh well, we have to deal with it. 00:22:43
It's our responsibility. 00:22:45
Well, I think it's argumentative whether we. 00:22:47
Agreed to damage your property. 00:22:50
So. 00:22:51
Well, I mean. 00:22:52
You approved of it. 00:22:54
So the Storm Board approved it. So your approval therefore gave those people? 00:22:55
The OK and say yeah. 00:22:59
You can, you can do this, you can distribute that water and it comes that way and. 00:23:01
Again, now we got. 00:23:05
Rockridge. 00:23:07
That was approved so. 00:23:08
Yeah, I don't think that's argumentative, Sir. I think that's a fact. 00:23:10
That's fine. 00:23:15
I don't have. I don't have anything further. 00:23:18
Does the catch basin in your neighbor's yard? Does that actually catch the water and drain it? 00:23:24
It does when there's. 00:23:28
Not a lot of water coming. 00:23:31
Yeah, but. 00:23:32
The problem is is the ditch is small. 00:23:33
It was small, begins. This was old. From my understanding, it was old farmland back in the day. 00:23:36
And it was like this little bitty Creek. 00:23:40
You know, just crawl, dance, have whatever. 00:23:42
And now we've got all these extra water attachments to it. 00:23:45
And now it's throwing water up over the grass, up over. 00:23:49
Covering the backyards. 00:23:53
And so the ditch that's there is not big enough to hold the water when it storms and it comes, you have pipes in your backyard. 00:23:55
So does Marcy correct? 00:24:02
My previous, yes, the previous guy that. 00:24:05
Correct. 00:24:11
So you really don't. You have. 00:24:13
Somewhat of a niche in your backyard, but you also have piping network and it's covered. 00:24:15
I don't think the county installment happen. 00:24:19
No, the county did not install it the. 00:24:22
Owner did. 00:24:24
Correct. 00:24:25
Probably tells to install something in a small ditch near things which we there's no easement for which they have all rights to be 00:24:27
able to do that. 00:24:30
OK. 00:24:34
So I'm trying to understand your point well. 00:24:35
You're saying that it was a ***** or you're saying that no. 00:24:37
It was a ditch before. 00:24:41
Yeah, but I'm talking from the very beginning. 00:24:47
So from private receivers area, there is no ditch, it's just whatever the water is eroded, right. And then when you come, as you 00:24:50
come. 00:24:54
Still has their niche. Is that not correct? They're still. Yeah, it's still it's still small. It's not even 2 feet wide. 00:24:58
And it's not even 2 feet deep. 00:25:05
And they have bridges. 00:25:07
That go over the back so they can access the back part that you have on your property. 00:25:08
No, that's. 00:25:13
That's part of the problem. It's not. 00:25:14
We backing up the water? It's not. 00:25:17
It's not. 00:25:20
You said that last year, so. 00:25:21
But the fact is, is there's too much water coming through. Water is flowing. 00:25:23
And it's flowing to. 00:25:27
Jacobs, whatever you want to call. 00:25:28
Whatever you said it was. 00:25:31
OK, tributary. Thank you. 00:25:32
It's too much water. 00:25:34
For the, for the amount, for the what the ditch was, whether there's pipe there or not, water flows through. 00:25:36
Eric and I cleaned out the ditch, which is the neighbor to my right. 00:25:42
We've taken big, huge, long pieces of wood. 00:25:46
And it goes all the way through, so there's nothing stopping up the water. It's too much water, that's my point. Too much water 00:25:49
coming at once and ditches and big enough. 00:25:54
Per for our ordinance. 00:25:59
Installer gets more than 100 year storm permit. 00:26:03
River channel or anything like that? 00:26:06
OK. 00:26:16
So it's not. It's not. 00:26:19
No problem then. 00:26:20
Correct. 00:26:22
Not saying yes, but that was not a county issue. 00:26:25
Thank you. 00:26:29
New business. 00:26:34
Randy Elliott. 00:26:36
Hello, my name is Randy Elliott. 00:26:45
Sorry, 505 Maplewood Blvd. 00:26:47
Georgetown, IN. 00:26:51
I've never done this before, so please forgive me. 00:26:52
I from what I understand. 00:26:58
My tenant at 515 Maplewood Blvd. 00:27:01
Is now is experiencing water. 00:27:05
From the. 00:27:09
Drain under the road. 00:27:11
And I think that you all got some photos. 00:27:13
It's increasingly getting worse, so I've been at that property for nine years now. 00:27:16
And. 00:27:21
The the water has in. 00:27:26
Been pre. 00:27:29
Bad since they put all those apartments in. 00:27:30
They're at the corner of Georgetown. 00:27:34
I'm not sure what they're called, sorry. 00:27:36
But. 00:27:39
In the past. 00:27:41
The past couple months. 00:27:42
Water's becoming so bad. 00:27:44
Under the. 00:27:46
Wrote there that it's actually going in our building now, my building now. 00:27:47
And it's causing my my tenant has a gymnastics facility there. 00:27:51
And so they have those mats on the floor. 00:27:56
And it's causing some. 00:27:58
Issues. 00:28:00
So. 00:28:02
Have you looked at this? 00:28:06
Sorry, I don't know what I'm doing. No, that's fine. You're fine. 00:28:07
We brought this up in to the board last meeting about projects and everything else. We did a little review of projects. This was a 00:28:12
newer one that we had added to our projects list. 00:28:18
Maybe would business park and the drainage and everything else. 00:28:23
I did not know that. 00:28:27
Right. And then with the emailing me that. 00:28:29
The next month. 00:28:31
Complain about the issue and everything else, so we've done a cost analysis with Heritage on what it would cost to do a project. 00:28:32
Through there. 00:28:41
I don't remember the number right off the top of my head. I think it was like. 00:28:42
Maybe 75 to $80,000 to do a project. 00:28:45
Basically, there's a drainage ease. 00:28:49
There is a drainage easement and it's. 00:28:50
Not functioning. It's really not even there. It's. 00:28:53
It's either been filled in or never existed and. 00:28:57
That's allowing water to get into the building and everything else, and again, we try to use the criterias. 00:29:02
Is it? 00:29:07
Detrimental to health and emergency services is it in an easement? Is it getting in structures? Is it? 00:29:08
Affecting more than one person. 00:29:15
Right now it's only affecting the the one business. 00:29:18
But it is getting in the structure, in the in the structure and it is in an easement. 00:29:21
You could argue if. 00:29:27
That could cause an emergency inside the building. 00:29:29
I mean, I'm not a first responder, so I leave that to our first responders that are sitting here. 00:29:31
On this board and everything else. So technically probably justified meeting three of the four criterias to to do the project. 00:29:37
Again, there was a small project. 00:29:49
Just downstream with. 00:29:51
A pump station for the town of Georgetown sewer. I was wondering if this was connected. 00:29:54
Yeah, so the the. 00:29:59
This would connect to that. 00:30:00
Project that was. 00:30:02
Already done. 00:30:03
And everything else so. 00:30:04
I don't know if this. 00:30:06
Only happens during heavy rain events or if this happens like during. 00:30:08
Just regular. 00:30:11
Rain Events. 00:30:12
That part we. 00:30:14
Haven't been able to hammer down but. 00:30:15
You know this was brought in front of the board. 00:30:18
At the last meeting. 00:30:20
So I guess. 00:30:21
One of my questions would be. 00:30:22
Since we did the other project up there by the fire department and. 00:30:24
Was that last year I think. 00:30:29
With Georgetown. 00:30:31
Is this gotten worse or is it? 00:30:33
100% worse. 00:30:35
It's gotten worse to where? 00:30:37
Is it only gotten worse when we got 8 inches in two hours or is it no actually? 00:30:40
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to say this or not, but he said whatever you want. 00:30:46
OK, well, so. 00:30:50
When we when they first got the the the pump station put in. 00:30:53
It was even. 00:30:58
Really bad because all of my. 00:31:00
Downspouts Downspouts on my building. 00:31:03
They were backing up. 00:31:05
And water was coming in through my roof. I have a 55 gallon. I have a video of a 55 gallon drum being filled up about 4 minutes. 00:31:07
Because the water was backing up into the building. 00:31:14
And then so we. 00:31:18
Went out there, I met with, uh, Bob. 00:31:19
Bob Woosley. 00:31:21
I think so. What would town Georgetown and we cut? 00:31:23
We took a shovel and cut the. 00:31:27
The. 00:31:29
Block pipe and. 00:31:32
All the water come flowing out of the. 00:31:34
The drain, The downspout. 00:31:37
So he said. 00:31:39
That he doesn't know how. 00:31:40
But supposedly he thinks. 00:31:42
I could be wrong on this 'cause I was like a year ago or so. 00:31:45
He thinks that art. 00:31:48
Downspouts were all connected to that pump station somehow before where that pump station was put in. 00:31:50
And because they can't find. 00:31:55
Where that water is going? 00:31:57
So. 00:31:59
To answer your question, yes this. 00:32:00
Problem has gotten worse. 00:32:02
Since that pump station's got put in. 00:32:04
And then also. 00:32:06
I even have a video of of the whole fire department parking lot. 00:32:08
Completely covered in water. 00:32:12
And it's all sets at pump station, so. 00:32:14
It actually is, kind of. 00:32:17
Affecting all of us there. 00:32:19
Mm-hmm. So have you disconnected all of your downspouts at this point? 00:32:21
No Sir, only that one. 00:32:25
Just because that's what he told me to do and it's just going to the ground. 00:32:28
We do have Rocker on it though. 00:32:35
Yeah, I think we need to look a little closer at this project. 00:32:37
And let me say this the he mentioned the. 00:32:42
Water, the fire department and everything else. We have identified where that pipe is caved in, in a spot at the fire department. 00:32:44
Sydney and them were supposed to. 00:32:52
Whenever they had time to be able to. 00:32:54
Uh, replace that piping. I don't know if that's been. 00:32:56
Than yet no, we we actually how do I expect to get down there too well. 00:32:59
Yeah, so, so we have a blockage downstream with a pipe, so. 00:33:03
That's probably why the fire department. 00:33:08
It looks like it's. 00:33:10
A swimming pool or a pond that could be backing up water where his water cannot. 00:33:12
Get out and everything else. 00:33:17
I would ask that since he just told us today that all of his downspouts are not just the one. I would ask if he could disconnect 00:33:19
off his downspouts as he. 00:33:23
If that helps and then maybe reconnected a different way into that project that we have already done to see if that helps at all 00:33:27
and if it doesn't then. 00:33:31
Again, yes, let's look at this project. 00:33:35
Yeah, I think we need to look a little closer. 00:33:37
At that property and. 00:33:40
PC, yeah, definitely. 00:33:43
Alright, not the gymnastics building that. Yes Sir, you have two buildings. 00:33:46
So I know that area pretty well. The downside he's talking about is on the other building. Yeah. Which is your shop. Yeah, these 00:33:51
pictures is on and it's on. 00:33:57
Like if you're seeing it in. 00:34:03
Got off the road looking at the front of the. 00:34:05
No, it's almost halfway down the building. 00:34:09
It's from where the water is coming now. You can see it actually on Google Maps. 00:34:13
So if you you learn them across the road there, yes. So yes or yeah, I know. Where is it? That's why I said you look a little. 00:34:19
No, definitely. 00:34:28
No, I appreciate the input. 00:34:30
So there's a culvert that comes across the road right there. 00:34:34
It comes down and it turns and goes. 00:34:37
On the fence line here and goes in the ditch back here, the pump stations back here. 00:34:39
This is the dish that. 00:34:43
We had them relay the prevention altitude down that way. The flooding he's experiencing is up in this corner here where this water 00:34:44
comes across the road. 00:34:48
Hits this and then supposed to turn. I guess it's filling up the ditch maybe and then coming into the building there. 00:34:52
The pump station, like I said, it's down here and I think the downs got issues were over in this area on that building, not on 00:34:58
this building. So there's an easement going down that line right, right here is like a 15 foot granite zone. 00:35:02
But it's supposed to. 00:35:07
Plug in the easement and take the night. Right angle, yes. 00:35:09
And then you have all this water coming off of this, which also goes into that ditch. 00:35:13
Does that remember when we were assassinated, we had to put elliptical pipe in there because we were trying to make it as large as 00:35:17
we could and make it fit with the Grays up there. 00:35:21
Because there's a lot of water within the drainage area when we did the design for that pump station. 00:35:24
Is it possible this is 2 separate issues just kind of going on at the same time? The downspout is completely separate from this. 00:35:29
That's what I'm thinking. 00:35:32
Yeah, that. 00:35:36
So what happened when the contractor dug up the old pump station? They saw a bunch of pipes around there, you know, and so. 00:35:37
If it didn't have any focus out of it, I think the captain, because there's an old septic system right in here and so one of those 00:35:44
could have been his downspout that got capped, which caused when it rained, it filled it up and they just backed up into 00:35:47
scratching. 00:35:50
So he definitely wants to disconnect those. 00:35:54
Yeah, but then the other issue is something totally separate. 00:35:57
Yeah, OK. 00:36:00
Does that make sense? Mm-hmm. 00:36:02
Yes it does. I appreciate it. 00:36:03
Yep. Thanks, Casey. 00:36:05
And and Randy, I, I thought I read something about maybe some toilets overflowing too during or is that a separate issue? And then 00:36:07
so we did experience that. 00:36:11
Actually. 00:36:17
I met with the fire department because right when they put the pumping station in. 00:36:18
All of our. 00:36:22
Toilets were bubbling. 00:36:23
I've not experienced that. I believe that they've got that resolved. 00:36:24
In the fire department. 00:36:28
And I've talked so OK. 00:36:30
They haven't said anything about their toilets. 00:36:33
This is the first time that Denny's ever said anything to me about that. 00:36:35
I've not been told about that other than this e-mail. 00:36:40
Alright, so what's the plan? 00:36:46
Sydney When can you? How fast can you? 00:36:47
Effect repairs on. 00:36:50
What's on your docket with that? 00:36:52
We can get it started going next week. 00:36:55
Tomorrow. Tomorrow. 00:36:59
Next week, tomorrow, I mean, whatever. 00:37:04
OK. So do we have a point like do you all know what the plan? 00:37:08
No, we just got this. 00:37:12
Could formulate one with an excavator, but you know, somebody's got to pay for that. 00:37:16
Sounds great. So I think what there's just to clarify there. 00:37:21
Directing them. 00:37:24
The county to work on fixing the. 00:37:26
One pipe that we're aware of, I think that. 00:37:28
Would be beneficial for you to disconnect all the other ones because they shouldn't be connected anyways. 00:37:31
And then I think as far as the plan for the other drainage problem going into the building is something that they will need to 00:37:36
evaluate and direct staff to evaluate. 00:37:40
Then that that plan and what you're asking about would come back for this board for official approval before anything is taken as 00:37:44
far as that property, if that helps. Kind of like the person before you. 00:37:49
We're not gonna say yeah, go fix it at 80 grand or whatever. 00:37:55
OK. Or we need to look at it a little bit farther? 00:37:59
And, umm. 00:38:02
People are in the room to take care of it. 00:38:03
Great. Thank you. All right. 00:38:06
Thanks so much. All right. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. 00:38:07
Nick Goddard. 00:38:14
Good evening. 00:38:20
Nick Cutter I live at 3006 Master Drive and. 00:38:22
I'm here on behalf of my wife and kids. 00:38:26
Because they want to pull so. 00:38:28
I'm needing needing a variance. 00:38:30
Drainage East Mid that runs through our property. 00:38:33
Spoke to Chris on the phone. 00:38:36
Hey Cortana, walk me through the process of what I needed to do so. 00:38:38
That's longer. 00:38:42
So I've submitted. 00:38:44
You know, somewhat. 00:38:46
You know the plot plan of our. 00:38:48
Backyard. 00:38:50
Kind of showing where the pool would go. 00:38:51
How far it you know impedes into the drainage easement? 00:38:55
So, and this would be 1 where we would want to, if you're inclined to approve that, that that be approved contingent on a waiver 00:39:00
and release being signed and recorded. 00:39:04
I believe this. 00:39:12
Couple folks at our property yesterday. 00:39:13
Looking in the backyard. 00:39:16
So I do have a general question for the evening. 00:39:19
We went back there yesterday just to look at the drainage. If you have a black fence on your property, are you proposing that this 00:39:22
pool would be inside that black fence, or would you have to take that black fence down in the back to put the pool? 00:39:29
The black fence back up. 00:39:37
Further further back so. 00:39:38
The fence is highlighted on the plot map that you often see it there. 00:39:41
Basically, we wouldn't be coming in from the back, would be coming in from front up our driveway and so that fence. 00:39:45
The on the backside would not be touched. 00:39:51
Be touched at all. 00:39:54
The pool would be essentially 5 feet off of that. 00:39:55
Fence which is 6 inches off of the property line. 00:39:58
Basically. 00:40:05
I believe when they developed the neighborhood I can understand where that drink easement made sense, but. 00:40:06
Where our house sat and we. 00:40:11
Built the home. We've raised the foundation of the floor plan. 00:40:13
So we've brought everything up. So not everything kind of basically drains our ground in between our houses. So it's more flat 00:40:17
back there. 00:40:21
In going out there. 00:40:28
Umm, we went to the right hand side it. 00:40:30
His fence and his neighbor fence on the right hand side are fairly close to each other. I mean it's probably a three foot gap 00:40:33
between both fences. It's it's rocked and everything else. 00:40:37
Any added drainage to there? 00:40:42
It caused the neighborhood on the right a little bit. 00:40:44
Of concern and everything else their yard is not as nice as. 00:40:47
Mr. Cutters So there's a lot of. 00:40:50
Soil, exposed soil and everything else. 00:40:53
But it's just. 00:40:56
Mr. Cutter could get. 00:40:57
The drainage from. 00:40:59
The new pool and everything to go to the left where there's a lot more room. 00:41:00
You know that would. 00:41:04
Help the situation. 00:41:06
Everything else, any drainage that's coming down. 00:41:07
From the neighboring properties. 00:41:10
Up above him is all draining towards him, so he's getting that water anyway. 00:41:12
But again. 00:41:17
Any water or drainage that he. 00:41:19
That they do by putting this pooling goes to the right. I do have a little reservation, but to the left. 00:41:21
The same would would work better. 00:41:28
Is the primary concern. 00:41:31
The surface area that the pool is taking up, causing drainage to go elsewhere? Is it the water that's within the pool that you're 00:41:32
worried about? 00:41:36
Or both. I mean, you don't. 00:41:41
This doesn't drain out to any. 00:41:42
No, it's just drained it run off, right. So it's going to run off from the and basically the way it works now there's actually 00:41:45
we're the high point. 00:41:48
Have shots and elevations to check and. 00:41:52
Basically where the pool. 00:41:55
Would go. 00:41:56
The water actually starts to fall to the left neighbor. 00:41:58
So. 00:42:01
The water would come in. 00:42:02
It almost there's a crown there at the high point, so. 00:42:04
Anything from the pool side? 00:42:07
But actually go to the left. 00:42:09
Where the ground existing is currently. 00:42:11
I've shot those elevations just on my own. I don't have any documentation that but. 00:42:15
Currently that's how everything works now flawlessly there's. 00:42:20
That I mean, we never had any standing water anywhere. 00:42:23
Does the 12 feet, does that also include the concrete? 00:42:29
Sat like the walk around it or is that the the dimension of the pool? 00:42:31
Which 12 feet are you referencing? The pool? The 12 by 24? Is there a concrete apron around it? There will be a 12 foot concrete 00:42:35
apron around it. 00:42:38
Yes, or I'm sorry, a 2 foot concrete apron around it. 00:42:42
Are there two different? 00:42:47
Is that cool? And is that a pool house? 00:42:49
But that is a. 00:42:51
Proposed if I was to. 00:42:53
You know, phase two maybe if I was to do something, I put that in there. 00:42:55
That's not something that has to be gone, but. 00:42:59
Pool house. 00:43:02
I didn't know if that was something separate since it's a. 00:43:03
Structure that's. 00:43:06
Break it and it's on the roof. I don't know if that would be a different drainage so. 00:43:08
He's basically wanting to. 00:43:13
Did you build your home? 00:43:18
I was heavily involved, but Witten was a contractor. 00:43:21
I did all the site work and did you? 00:43:23
Neighbor build. 00:43:27
Is there her home? 00:43:28
It was a written. 00:43:31
Neighborhood Some women don't all come. 00:43:33
And have you talked to your neighbor about this? I've talked to both of them. My neighbor to the right actually wants me to let 00:43:36
them know how it goes because he wants to put one in maybe as well. So he's waiting for. 00:43:41
My direction on how this thing goes. 00:43:47
Guinea pig. Yeah, I'm the Guinea pig. 00:43:49
Fortunately, like I said, we're the high point on this. 00:43:52
Section of the neighborhood. 00:43:55
And when we. 00:43:57
We were the first home in so we. 00:43:58
Set the precedent by raising the elevations which brought all the. 00:44:00
The grading around the properties hub, so there. 00:44:04
Is less of. 00:44:07
Water coming off that back. 00:44:08
I can't rule what the neighborhood was behind us there. 00:44:10
That's directly across Gulf View Court. 00:44:16
The neighbors behind us are. 00:44:20
Golfland. That's golfland right across from the golf course, right? 00:44:21
Yes, yeah. 00:44:25
So if you pull in there. 00:44:27
The one on the right golf land and then got another one. 00:44:29
On the other side of that. 00:44:32
The neighbors behind us as well. 00:44:37
Are both. 00:44:40
I have verbal agreements from them I can. 00:44:42
Get written agreements if I need to but they wanted me to see how tonight goes 1st and. 00:44:44
I'd like to see something in writing from the OK I can get those if you want me to just e-mail those to you. 00:44:49
And then we don't do we have any professional? 00:44:55
Third party assessment of what they think the impact of this is going to be. 00:45:00
Or have you put any assessment in writing on it? 00:45:05
What do you feel the impact would be? 00:45:09
Pitch to the board. 00:45:12
To verify the rating of the property would make those before we go to those nuts that's not, I think there's a lot more area for 00:45:19
that water consumption to the ground. 00:45:24
And everything else. 00:45:30
And I think if I could see. 00:45:34
Plan for that. 00:45:36
And then input from the neighbors then. 00:45:38
Then I think we're there. 00:45:41
A plan for that? Is that something to take it to? 00:45:43
Something that you guys are going to have to be able to agree on that you can show us. This is not not only that, I think, I think 00:45:46
it's going to go to the left. 00:45:50
Where it needs to go to the lab, it's something that says it needs to go to the left and it's going to go to the left because this 00:45:53
is what we're doing to make it go to the left. 00:45:56
That makes it I'm just a. 00:46:00
I would ask that. 00:46:01
LESB necessary even that formal as well as our engineer signs out. But you had said that you'd shot some elevations, but you 00:46:07
didn't have it here tonight, so it might be easy to reproduce those perhaps. 00:46:11
Uh, yeah, I can. 00:46:16
So I think with all that said, my recommendation would be it that it be contingent upon. 00:46:18
The neighbors. 00:46:24
Him providing proof that the neighbors are agreeable to this. 00:46:25
The county engineer reviewing the site and the flow. 00:46:29
Coming off the property as well as the waiver, indemnification and release that we would typically have property owners sign, 00:46:33
which I can include in their language that all the flow should go to the left as well. 00:46:37
Yeah, I mean, I'm. 00:46:43
I would just table the matter until we get that rather than. That's fine as well. If you want to wait for the first two things, we 00:46:44
still would want it contingent on that approval. 00:46:48
So if you're inclined to just table it until we have the first two things, the neighbors and the county engineer review of it. 00:46:53
Then we can address, we'll still want the waiver release indemnification, but then at least you have two of those three boxes 00:47:00
checked. 00:47:03
And I not think Mr. Cutter is aware what that waiver of. We normally draft it and send it. It's perfectly fine. 00:47:07
So you get those first two things, we'll get the waiver to you. 00:47:13
And. 00:47:18
Bring it back to the next meeting. 00:47:20
I would just add this real quick. 00:47:22
We've we've provided variances in the easement in the past. 00:47:24
Generally it's like one or two feet. 00:47:27
This one's taken up the whole easement. 00:47:30
And you know, as a surveyor, our duty is to protect the public. 00:47:32
And as far as the public easement? 00:47:35
They do protect the public. 00:47:37
So I'm probably a no on this just out of the gate. 00:47:39
Just we're taking up the whole easement and. 00:47:42
Would a visual of the property. 00:47:45
Potentially. 00:47:47
You know, sway your. 00:47:49
No vote. Well, it's just going to limit significantly what can be done in the back in the future. I mean, you sat here and heard 00:47:50
the first two people come in. 00:47:54
You know, we're preventing problems for for everybody. So totally understand. I, I get the. 00:47:58
100% agree with. 00:48:03
The purpose of drainage easements and what they're meant to do. 00:48:04
Like I said, on paper, I see how this is a Oh my gosh, this is taking up a whole easement this looks. 00:48:07
A lot more drastic than what it does visually in person. 00:48:15
Like I said, because this was before the house was built. 00:48:18
We changed the way it actually works now. 00:48:22
So now everything goes around the property. So based on what's here versus what the visual is, it's different. That's why. 00:48:25
What a visual picture. 00:48:31
Say, OK, this looks a lot different than what's on the channel. I think the concern is that of the 15 foot easement back there, 00:48:33
you're using 10 of the 15. You're only leaving five of the 15, right? Well, actually even more than that once you put the concrete 00:48:38
on there. 00:48:42
Right. So you're talking about using, not leaving much of anything is I think what Mr. Brinkworth is. 00:48:47
So. 00:48:53
Looking at your house. 00:48:56
Why don't you just move the pool? 00:48:58
To looks like the end of the driveway. 00:49:00
Because that's where all the underground utilities kind of. 00:49:03
So it would be. 00:49:05
Directly at the top of the utilities there I can't put there. 00:49:07
Yeah, I would love to have it there, but. 00:49:09
OK, what's part of having a visual? I don't see where it could hurt. 00:49:12
Your cause? 00:49:16
He's he's already a no vote. 00:49:18
Right then this happened to be more of a Novo based on the visual. 00:49:20
And if it comes to that, I'm happy to go out there. 00:49:24
And walk it just. 00:49:27
Can you see something? Sometimes just. 00:49:28
Boots on the ground is the way to go. And if it comes to that, John? 00:49:31
Invite you to go with me so you can. 00:49:34
Kind of explain your concerns to me as well. 00:49:36
Actually, I think I'm going to come too, just because I, I have to agree with John's assessment. You know, it's a lot of ease of 00:49:38
being taken up here. So I'm. 00:49:41
I'm not. 00:49:45
Going to say that I'm Lenovo, but I. 00:49:45
I'm willing to give it a chance, but there is a whole lot of easement here that's being taken up so and I agree with this 00:49:47
assessment that. 00:49:50
These easements are designed. 00:49:53
Protect other people, so most definitely. 00:49:54
So I think. 00:49:57
If you can, we'll table them. I'm going to proposally table the matter here in a second. And then if you could get input from your 00:49:58
neighbors and then from the county engineer. 00:50:02
After which we can come out and take a look at it then. 00:50:07
Well, the input from the county engineer. Do I need to work with you? Who do I? 00:50:10
He'll facilitate that for you. OK. All right. Thank you. I want to propose. 00:50:16
Make a motion we table this issue. 00:50:23
Also moved. 00:50:25
All in favor. 00:50:27
Aye. 00:50:28
OK. 00:50:30
Chris. 00:50:34
We have a long term maintenance agreement in front of you for Summit Ridge Commons, the development along Hwy. 150. 00:50:36
They are, we are asking them to do a long term maintenance because they came in front of you at the last meeting for. 00:50:44
Smaller orifice eyes and for. 00:50:51
Did upon holding. 00:50:54
Water longer than the 36 hour requirement. That's per ordinance. 00:50:56
Those were both approved. 00:51:01
And in order to do so, we ask that they do a long term maintenance agreement. 00:51:03
I think we've had a few issues with getting these recorded with the Recorders office, Christy sent an e-mail earlier. 00:51:07
Explaining how we need to. 00:51:16
Correct these long term maintenance agreements. 00:51:18
I asked that it get signed, but if you wanted to. 00:51:21
Sign it outside of a meeting while me and Kirsty worked out the bugs of this current long term maintenance agreement to include 00:51:26
the things that the recorder wants to record it per her. 00:51:32
Requirements. 00:51:37
I would ask that the board do so. 00:51:39
And I would just request it to go ahead and be signed. Let me work through some of those things that I may be able to fix after 00:51:41
signature and then we'll go from there if we need to execute a new one. 00:51:46
Outside of the meeting. 00:51:50
Looking for a motion to approve? 00:51:56
Yes, you so moved. 00:51:57
2nd. 00:52:01
All in favor. 00:52:04
Aye. 00:52:06
Do you have any public comment? 00:52:10
Deal Man, Georgetown. 00:52:19
Before you guys got here, I thought it was under ordinance and anything. 00:52:21
A developer done up here. 00:52:24
He hadn't fixed what was down there. 00:52:26
That should be in our ordinances. 00:52:28
And we heard two, two people come up. Something happened. 00:52:30
Because of them problems. 00:52:33
And also with with Colin with his. 00:52:35
We make mistakes. 00:52:38
Our engineers make mistakes. 00:52:41
A copyright that there's, there's room. You've got to look. Somebody might have made a mistake for that Lady. 00:52:43
Just because it got all OK. 00:52:48
Somebody could have made a mistake. I never hear anything about that. 00:52:50
Well, copyright. What's wrong? 00:52:54
Godfrey do it. 00:52:56
But people make mistakes. 00:52:59
And it was it's in our ordinance. If it, if it do it up here, if this is new up here. 00:53:01
And you cause problems down here. You've got to fix it all before we let you do it up here. 00:53:05
That's why stormwater was supposed to be in. 00:53:09
And I'm sure it's still our ordinances. 00:53:11
And we're not going power ordinances. Thank you. 00:53:13
Anyone else? 00:53:19
Oh, I'll just make a comment to to Mr. Mann's. 00:53:23
Comment I mean I. 00:53:25
I'd like to have a review of that just to see whether or not that that is still. 00:53:28
If it's not the letter. 00:53:34
The ordinance. 00:53:36
Perhaps it's still the intent. 00:53:38
My opinion should still be the intent. 00:53:40
So and. 00:53:43
Let's try to come back and and publicly answer that at the next meeting then. 00:53:45
And I have no further comment beyond that. 00:53:50
Motion adjourn. 00:53:53
Sing. 00:53:57