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Pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:00:04
United States of America. 00:00:07
Republican stands one nation under God. 00:00:08
Indivisible. 00:00:12
Required. 00:00:19
There we go. 00:00:25
This is the required organizational meeting by. 00:00:26
Indiana code. 00:00:29
So 1. 00:00:31
Do we have any call for the? 00:00:33
President. I nominate Frank Loop for president. 00:00:35
Last second. 00:00:39
All in favor. 00:00:44
Aye. 00:00:46
OK, do we have a? 00:00:47
Motion to adjourn. 00:00:50
We know we need a vice president. 00:00:52
Well, I thought I'd do that too. 00:00:54
Well, if John doesn't mind, I'd like him to remain in that position, and I would. 00:00:57
Nominate him if he would accept. 00:01:01
Sure I will, as long as you're in all the meetings, Frank. 00:01:03
Yeah, second. 00:01:06
And second, I second that. Oh, I'm sorry. 00:01:10
All in favor, aye? 00:01:13
OK, now. 00:01:16
We can adjourn the organizational meeting. 00:01:17
All right. 00:01:29
I called the meeting to order for the. 00:01:32
Uh, January. 00:01:36
Storm water. 00:01:38
So looks like we've already gone through our welcome. 00:01:40
They have approval for the minutes of December 25. 00:01:44
It moved to approve as submitted and I'll second. 00:01:47
All in favor. 00:01:51
Aye. 00:01:53
And Chris, our daily maintenance reports. 00:01:55
Yes, and your packet you'll see. 00:02:01
Daily. 00:02:05
The daily maintenance reports. 00:02:06
The crews have been out. 00:02:09
Few different places out in the county. 00:02:11
4014 Georgetown Greenville Rd. There was a new pipe installation. 00:02:13
Block Knob Rd. There was pipe maintenance. 00:02:18
Pines Rd. Ditching Maintenance. 00:02:21
Pile work on. 00:02:24
2750 Canal. 00:02:26
Those are just some examples of where the. 00:02:27
Crews have been this past month. 00:02:30
The back truck was out. 00:02:32
A couple times. 00:02:35
Roughly about $1800 worth of. 00:02:37
Make this work that the back truck did. 00:02:40
Throughout the county, cleaning up catch basins and along ditch lines and stuff like that, so. 00:02:42
We do have that separated out. 00:02:47
In a separate. 00:02:49
Cheat and everything else so. 00:02:51
Crews been doing a good job trying to. 00:02:53
Get everything clean for the next storm. 00:02:56
You know, next the next storm always brings. 00:02:58
More CRUD downstream so. 00:03:00
It's an endless battle. 00:03:01
OK. Thank you. Sydney, you've been in that. 00:03:05
Role now for a little bit, I don't know if you had any input or feedback or any ways that you would. 00:03:08
Everything information. 00:03:14
Well, that's, that's good too. I didn't know if there's any I haven't got to talk to Chris about yet. 00:03:16
But I will, he'll find out in a minute. 00:03:21
Of course, as he said, we've had the back truck out of quite a bit. 00:03:24
Cleaned out some Colbert's catch basins, things of that nature. 00:03:28
Doing some hydro excavating with it. 00:03:31
If you'll understand what that is. 00:03:34
Also, our new camera will be here tomorrow. 00:03:36
With training. 00:03:40
OK, Chris, I can tell you that yet, but. 00:03:42
Tomorrow. 00:03:46
After we get done with some other training with Chris and we're going to step into that training. 00:03:46
With the uses of our new camera. 00:03:51
I assume constellation is pretty. 00:03:53
It's the same way. It's just a matter of screwing something together. 00:03:55
Gary Biermann is going to be involved. 00:03:59
Those are some IT things have gone with that. 00:04:01
OK. 00:04:04
Good deal. Yeah, Thank you. Thank you. And make a motion to approve the daily maintenance reports and claims. I'll second. 00:04:06
All in favor. 00:04:14
Aye, aye. 00:04:15
OK, erosion control on old business. The December summary report. 00:04:17
Good evening, Heritage Engineering. 00:04:28
So this month we have 32 total sites. 00:04:31
10 are dormant. 00:04:35
18 more compliant. 00:04:36
Two showed a high probability of off site sedimentation and two showed evidence of off site segmentation. 00:04:38
The two that showed off site sedimentation are Bridlewood. 00:04:44
And Gateway Village. 00:04:49
Bridlewood, we've been told that was going to be. 00:04:52
Fixed. 00:04:55
Between Christmas and New Year's? Haven't been out to check that yet. 00:04:56
Check this month and if it's a repeat offender then we'll make sure we take precautions to make sure it doesn't happen again. 00:05:00
In Gateway Village. 00:05:05
We were having trouble getting a hold of the contract, but you guys have seen them on and off, on and off. Last month they were 00:05:07
good. This month it's back on and so. 00:05:10
We'll keep in contact with them to make sure we get that one fixed. 00:05:14
I didn't want to draw your attention to 1 The Highlands #16 that showed. 00:05:17
High probability. 00:05:22
We did receive 2 complaints on that one. 00:05:24
In the months and it's kind of noted there on URL's packet. 00:05:27
And so. 00:05:30
We were told that it was going to be. 00:05:33
Cleaned up. 00:05:35
We went back out today actually to check it. 00:05:36
They made an effort to clean it, but it's not completely clean, so we're going to reach back out to them and make sure they get 00:05:38
that one taken care of. 00:05:41
That one's in the. 00:05:44
A fairly new subdivision, so there's more people driving the roads and so it's just it's noticed. 00:05:45
Right away. So is that the one right behind the gas station? 00:05:49
I'm trying to think the highlights. Yeah, yeah. 00:05:54
I like these little informational. 00:05:58
Boxes. You like those? Yeah, OK, we'll keep that up then. 00:06:01
Normally that's for my CHEAT SHEET. You know, I like that red line version. I can't miss it. 00:06:04
I think it's good for this all becomes part of the public record as well, so it's easier. 00:06:10
For anyone who might have an interest in it, OK. 00:06:15
Any questions? Yeah. What's the next step with the Highlands property for you guys? 00:06:17
Chris. 00:06:22
Well, we'll reach out to them and then. 00:06:23
In January, they still, you know, they made an effort. 00:06:26
It's just not good enough effort. So, you know, we want to work with them, sure. 00:06:29
And so we'll. 00:06:33
Chuck coughing again like hey, we can do a little bit better job and then. 00:06:34
Well, we've seen that they're not listening to us at that point and. 00:06:38
They bring them up by the board for. 00:06:42
What's the violation of? 00:06:45
Or something like that. Sports. 00:06:49
OK. 00:06:51
I'll be glad to go visit. 00:06:53
And anytime that I need to. 00:06:55
So we don't need to get to that point. 00:06:59
Let's see. So you know, they, they, they worked with us a little bit here. 00:07:02
Cleaned up a little bit, maintained an effort. They just need to make a little bit more than effort. 00:07:06
You know, because you know, we're getting customers complaints. We're just, you got people that's living in the subdivision and 00:07:10
houses being constructed. There's always that battle. 00:07:14
Yeah. 00:07:18
And you know, people getting mud on their driveways that they just moved into, they don't really club that. 00:07:20
So far it's been phone calls. You know, I think if it persists, we'll have Chris meet us out there on site and have a face to face 00:07:27
with him on site, make sure it's very clear exactly what we're talking about and then. 00:07:32
Yeah, like Chris, like the best light until you guys leave. 00:07:36
Yeah, and I agree there is a fine balance. 00:07:39
You know, if it's construction, there's. 00:07:43
Sediment that's going to be there. 00:07:47
So but they were working on replacing some fences also to try and clean it up to keep more mud from getting on the roadways. 00:07:49
Not just cleaning up the mud, that is. 00:07:55
Yeah. 00:07:57
OK. 00:07:59
I did want to bring up. 00:08:00
Staff currently staff wise Floyd County has lost one of our inspectors they. 00:08:03
They resigned on us. 00:08:08
And so we have asked heritage to. 00:08:10
Do some of the monthly inspection for us moving forward in January. 00:08:12
The other gentleman that's doing the inspections? 00:08:17
Playing playing in the zoning building development Lost. 00:08:19
Longtime clerk. 00:08:23
And so. 00:08:24
Garrett, who is still on staff. 00:08:25
Needs to focus on. 00:08:28
Plan Commission right now because he's the only one that can. 00:08:29
Do permitting so. 00:08:32
We'll have heritage. 00:08:34
Take over for January and February until we get new people hired and. 00:08:36
More people trained on erosion control, let me say, lost. Those were resignations. Those were resignations. 00:08:40
All right, I just want to be. 00:08:45
Get the board up to speed. Yeah, I understand. I just want to make sure no one in it. 00:08:47
Past. 00:08:51
OK. 00:08:52
Contract. 00:09:00
Good afternoon. I'm Kaden Cunningham with OHM Advisors here to present our contract for 2026. 00:09:06
And I remember last year, you guys like the summary of the accomplishments from the previous year. 00:09:13
Oh great. 00:09:18
Thank you. 00:09:29
So there was other tasks completed inside of this, but these were the major things that were completed as well as various tasks to 00:09:40
support the. 00:09:43
Our new contract covers similar tasks. 00:09:47
And we see this being a lighter year for MS-4 work. 00:09:51
Because this is the last year of the permit. 00:09:54
But then we expect that new draft permit to come out. 00:09:56
Early this year. 00:10:00
So we'll be reviewing that and commenting on it. 00:10:01
On behalf of all the swap communities. 00:10:03
And the contract that we're presenting you all tonight? 00:10:05
Is one that's similar to all SWAT communities. 00:10:08
As part of that. 00:10:11
Joint process that they all. 00:10:13
Undertake. 00:10:14
So on this organized and LED qualified professional inspectors training 35 attendees. 00:10:16
I mean. 00:10:24
How many of those were Floyd County? 00:10:26
Employees that was that training is primarily for. 00:10:29
Like contractors that are out on the site. 00:10:33
So with the new ordinance, you have to have a qualified professional inspector on site to inspect the erosion control. 00:10:35
So we have a list of all those present and their company names. 00:10:42
I don't know if any municipal employees from. 00:10:45
The the two that we had that were training, Albert and Garrett, they did a, they did a training through EPA. 00:10:47
It was like a 7 hour online training. 00:10:55
Because they didn't. We didn't have. 00:10:59
The training setup for the new last year, whatever that was ready so we had them do. 00:11:01
So that two new people. 00:11:07
Or whoever we hire coming up for, we'll have them do this one so. 00:11:08
And is there a fee to Floyd County folks? 00:11:13
If we're doing that or is that included in the contract? Yeah. 00:11:16
What about for other people out in the industry? 00:11:20
Are they paying you a fee for that? 00:11:23
There was a discussion to make it. 00:11:25
A fee or not a fee, and then the swap members decided to make that free for everyone to try and encourage attendance for everyone. 00:11:26
Who is our MS-4? 00:11:38
Person. 00:11:42
You OK? 00:11:43
All right. No comment from the Legal 1 then. 00:11:55
I've reviewed it, I think it's in order. 00:11:59
Just need a motion to accept the contract. 00:12:02
I move to accept that contract. 00:12:05
Also presented. 00:12:08
I'll say all in favor. 00:12:09
Aye. 00:12:12
Thank you. 00:12:14
Heritage engineering contractor. 00:12:18
Bob, we usually live with Heritage engineering. 00:12:21
Get the two of us with the same haircut. 00:12:23
This contract is a renewal of our current contract that. 00:12:29
Chris and and Casey were up here explaining a minute ago. So it includes, it's an hourly contract. So it's only we only build the 00:12:32
time that we actually spend on. 00:12:36
There's no lump sum amount. 00:12:41
It includes plan reviews as we typically do so when the development comes in. 00:12:43
They submit their plans. We have to make sure it complies with the ordinances and codes. 00:12:48
It will. 00:12:53
Continue to include site inspections. 00:12:54
As needed and it's. 00:12:57
Sounds like for now. 00:12:58
Are going to continue on until. 00:12:59
The next employee. 00:13:01
Is hired and trained. 00:13:02
Which we typically will help with that training. 00:13:04
If Chris needs it, which? 00:13:07
You probably will sound like. 00:13:09
The staffing. 00:13:10
And that's just part of it. I mean, you take them out on site with you, you go through the sites, you show them how to do the 00:13:12
reporting, how to fill out the blogs. 00:13:16
And then we also have. 00:13:19
Is we have in the past the miscellaneous support. 00:13:21
If something outside the ordinary comes up and you need assistance in any way with stormwater, we can do that. 00:13:23
It's very minimal. 00:13:29
Our hourly rates are included in the contract. 00:13:32
They have changed slightly from last year. 00:13:35
We had a small bump in some of our staffing. 00:13:38
Salaries for. 00:13:41
Inflationary reasons. 00:13:42
But other Nets the same contract that. 00:13:44
We've had the past. 00:13:46
All right, this is 1 I saw a little bit of back and forth on on e-mail so. 00:13:48
I think I appreciate you being forthcoming with information and if you've got questions on that, I can answer any of those and I. 00:13:53
I'm satisfied at the moment so. 00:14:00
Yeah. 00:14:02
OK, look for a motion. 00:14:06
So moved. I'll second. 00:14:08
All in favor. 00:14:12
Aye. 00:14:13
Great. 00:14:15
And got a repair approval for Paley Pike. 00:14:16
In your packet you'll see a a map of a. 00:14:25
Paoli Pike. 00:14:28
Pipe replacement. 00:14:29
I got Horatio, the county engineer in Sydney, the public works director. 00:14:30
In the audience here, in case you have any questions for them, We were called out. 00:14:35
We were called out in December for a possible collapse of a driveway along Paoli Pike. 00:14:39
So we all went out there and and met, looked at it. 00:14:46
And reviewing that, we looked and saw that the. 00:14:49
Not only. 00:14:52
That part section of the pipe, but the entire pipe all the way to a concrete box was deteriorated past. 00:14:53
It's a useful life. 00:14:59
And even on the other side of the concrete box, that pipe also is needing to be replaced because it's. 00:15:01
Rusted through with everything else. 00:15:08
So we had Sydney, we had Horatio. 00:15:10
Look at it and tell us what size pipe is needed. We had Sydney. 00:15:13
Let us know that the. 00:15:18
The Public Works Creek. 00:15:19
Could be the crew that. 00:15:21
Repairs this and everything else. 00:15:23
They they have the price on that. I'm not sure the the price, but it's one that. 00:15:26
Where the the roadway is starting to. 00:15:31
Undermined a little bit along Peyote Pike. 00:15:34
And again, that one driveway where people. 00:15:37
Access their property is in pretty bad. 00:15:40
Deteriorated shape and then the other one is for a business where? 00:15:43
You know, at any time. 00:15:47
Their parking lot could start to cave in and everything else. So this is pretty much an emergency project we need to. 00:15:49
Kind of move on fast so. 00:15:55
We're looking for court approval to. 00:15:57
Have our. 00:16:00
Public Works crew. 00:16:01
Do this project, purchase the needed material, the piping. 00:16:03
And do an install. 00:16:07
Of the pipeline Paley pipe. 00:16:09
Is that the old Mike's Tavern? 00:16:11
Is that say that, Is that in front of the Old Mike's Tavern? Yes. OK. 00:16:13
So historically. 00:16:18
This was. 00:16:22
Reconstructed after a car went in there. 00:16:25
Several years back. 00:16:28
The whole car went in with two kids in it. 00:16:30
We had to dig all that up to dig that car and the kids out. 00:16:33
I believe that was in the late 90s or something like that. Yeah, I better late 90s. 00:16:38
It's the same location, just. 00:16:44
Same problem. 00:16:46
Yeah. 00:16:47
You know. 00:16:50
A metal, metal, metal. 00:16:52
Galvanized pipe and. 00:16:54
Most of the time pipes. 00:16:56
Have a 20 to 25 year. 00:16:57
Life expectancy, especially. 00:16:59
With the salt and everything that you put on roadways for treatment for. 00:17:01
Ice and everything else. So I mean. 00:17:05
If we could do it in a plastic pipe, we'd rather do that, but it's just not going to be feasible for us. So I think we're looking 00:17:07
at another metal pipe and it is just the nature of the beast. 00:17:12
That you have to use metal in this because of the strength of the pipe needed for the amount of cars that. 00:17:18
Go in and out of the parking lot and everything else. Is there a pipeliner system for those that can extend the life? 00:17:23
I'll let our experts answer that. 00:17:30
Answer your question. 00:17:39
Yes, I'm sure there's a pipeline around there, but do this. 00:17:40
Uh, I don't think we want to go that route. 00:17:45
Because of cost. 00:17:47
The reason? We're using a metal pipe. 00:17:49
Like you said, is strength. 00:17:51
But it's also. 00:17:53
It's so close to the top of the. 00:17:55
You know, it's not very deep. 00:17:57
You have to have a minimum. 00:17:59
Amount of. 00:18:00
Depth from the top to the pipe. 00:18:01
To use plastic. 00:18:04
We can't do this. We're going to have to use metal. 00:18:06
A 2025 year. 00:18:08
Lifespan. That's just normal. 00:18:11
Sometimes you get more, sometimes you get less. 00:18:14
Well, this one being so big. 00:18:18
There's more. There's a lot of air in this pipe. 00:18:19
Is most of the time dry. 00:18:22
So everything that runs down the pipe, the salts, whatever. 00:18:24
Just sitting underneath the bottom out of. 00:18:27
Right now there's there's two significant areas. 00:18:29
Where the pipe is. 00:18:32
Deteriorated so much that it's sucking. 00:18:35
Mm-hmm. What's it called sucking the dirt back in is keeping in the parking lot? 00:18:38
It's also caked in the driveway. 00:18:42
The only thing right now that's holding the driveway up is the fact it's gone. 00:18:44
Is this something like knowing that that's a problem that this back truck that we have can? 00:18:48
Help clear out. 00:18:53
Some of the. 00:18:54
Settlement in there using does it does it have water jets on it? 00:18:56
It does if we get if we get to. 00:19:00
To the point down the road with a new pipe in and we have some. 00:19:02
Settlement. 00:19:05
Yes, this Vectra can clean it up OK. 00:19:06
So would it not be better to? 00:19:09
Dig all that out and put concrete in there. 00:19:12
Concrete tiles. 00:19:16
Or a ton. 00:19:19
I don't know. 00:19:21
I mean, no, Sir. 00:19:22
I'm not. I'm not going to recommend that. 00:19:24
Just, well, that's why I'm asking. 00:19:27
Yeah, just due to cost. 00:19:29
It due to cost. There's no there's no safety advantage, there's no longevity advantage with going back with a concrete. 00:19:32
OK, what is the estimated? 00:19:38
Cost right now estimated cost materials. 00:19:41
$25,000. 00:19:44
OK. That's kind of a storm water budget. 00:19:45
And what's the the time? 00:19:48
Of doing this. 00:19:52
Week project. 00:19:53
Whether? 00:19:56
We'll find out then that we're not expecting. We're looking at 2 weeks. 00:19:58
And so that repair estimate is. 00:20:03
For the pipe? Or is that also replacing? 00:20:05
The surface. 00:20:09
That is replacing the surface With. That said, part of that surface won't be replaced until spring. 00:20:10
Because we can't get. 00:20:16
Asphalt near. 00:20:17
Part of it will be because it's concrete. We can go back with concrete. 00:20:19
The only other thing I would say there could be possible shoulder closures. 00:20:24
While they're doing the work of all Paley pipe with that side. 00:20:28
So this is an example of something that catapults itself to the top of the. 00:20:34
Priority list, right? 00:20:37
So, yeah, yeah. 00:20:39
All right. Well, and the biggest thing with is what Chris had mentioned is starting. 00:20:41
To a road under the edge of the road. 00:20:45
If we if we continue to let that go, eventually it's going to be under the. 00:20:47
I guess you called the southbound lane. 00:20:51
Right, which we don't want. 00:20:53
For sure fire truck. 00:20:55
Back throat garbage truck come through there and it caves in. It's going to be bad. Well, they're semis. 00:20:56
So Mars are up and down there. 00:21:01
I move to approve that. 00:21:07
Repair. 00:21:09
I'll second. 00:21:11
All in favor. 00:21:12
Aye. 00:21:14
We have any public comment? 00:21:19
Dale Mann, Georgetown, in that on private property. 00:21:29
The driveway. You come out of business in the driveway. 00:21:32
That private property. 00:21:37
It's in the right away. 00:21:40
That's private property and I have to pay for that. 00:21:45
If you if you, if you're culvert. 00:21:47
Is in bad shape. You buy the culprit and you will. That's what I'm getting at. 00:21:50
But this is more than just a culvert. This is a culvert and. 00:21:54
That extends. 00:21:58
Through parking lots and everything else that's undermining the roadway. 00:22:00
But it's on private property. 00:22:04
And you? So does my covert. 00:22:05
Involved the roadway or everybody else's does. 00:22:08
But that's private. And I know the rule. We paid for the cover, but we're paying what, $25,000 for cover for this private 00:22:11
property? 00:22:14
Thank you. 00:22:17
Just to just the driveway, the owners of the driveway. 00:22:20
Anyone else have? 00:22:25
Well, just just in addition to that. 00:22:28
There there is some right away takings that have taken place out on Paoli Pike. I couldn't tell you the exact because it kind of 00:22:31
varies through there. 00:22:34
And Dale, I don't know the details of your of your property and where you're. 00:22:38
Your property line does because the center line or whatnot, but. 00:22:41
But there are dedicated right away that have been taken out of the Paoli Pike. 00:22:44
Corridor there. 00:22:48
And it does vary from property to property based on the deeds. 00:22:50
And certain plants have taken certain distances. 00:22:54
But and I don't, I haven't seen any kind of information on where this pipe is in relation to that but. 00:22:57
But that could also be. 00:23:02
You know, put. 00:23:03
Playing into that. So there's a private driveway on on the road, some private property is in the easement. 00:23:05
But it was a property only half the paper. 00:23:12
Yeah, and I, you know, and I'm not gonna dispute the the differences between. 00:23:15
You know, an easement where the pipe is located, but up. 00:23:19
But I just wanted to point out the fact that there is actual dedicated public right away, not an easement. 00:23:21
And I don't exactly know where the pipe is, I'm just. 00:23:26
Throwing it out there. 00:23:29
Let's just go down to the discussion of prescribed and unprescribed roads again. 00:23:33
We could go down a rabbit hole. 00:23:36
OK. 00:23:38
Anything else? 00:23:41
Motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn. 00:23:45
We're done. 00:23:49
Oh. 00:23:51
Yeah. 00:23:56
These luck. 00:23:57

Transcript

Event transcript
Pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:00:04
United States of America. 00:00:07
Republican stands one nation under God. 00:00:08
Indivisible. 00:00:12
Required. 00:00:19
There we go. 00:00:25
This is the required organizational meeting by. 00:00:26
Indiana code. 00:00:29
So 1. 00:00:31
Do we have any call for the? 00:00:33
President. I nominate Frank Loop for president. 00:00:35
Last second. 00:00:39
All in favor. 00:00:44
Aye. 00:00:46
OK, do we have a? 00:00:47
Motion to adjourn. 00:00:50
We know we need a vice president. 00:00:52
Well, I thought I'd do that too. 00:00:54
Well, if John doesn't mind, I'd like him to remain in that position, and I would. 00:00:57
Nominate him if he would accept. 00:01:01
Sure I will, as long as you're in all the meetings, Frank. 00:01:03
Yeah, second. 00:01:06
And second, I second that. Oh, I'm sorry. 00:01:10
All in favor, aye? 00:01:13
OK, now. 00:01:16
We can adjourn the organizational meeting. 00:01:17
All right. 00:01:29
I called the meeting to order for the. 00:01:32
Uh, January. 00:01:36
Storm water. 00:01:38
So looks like we've already gone through our welcome. 00:01:40
They have approval for the minutes of December 25. 00:01:44
It moved to approve as submitted and I'll second. 00:01:47
All in favor. 00:01:51
Aye. 00:01:53
And Chris, our daily maintenance reports. 00:01:55
Yes, and your packet you'll see. 00:02:01
Daily. 00:02:05
The daily maintenance reports. 00:02:06
The crews have been out. 00:02:09
Few different places out in the county. 00:02:11
4014 Georgetown Greenville Rd. There was a new pipe installation. 00:02:13
Block Knob Rd. There was pipe maintenance. 00:02:18
Pines Rd. Ditching Maintenance. 00:02:21
Pile work on. 00:02:24
2750 Canal. 00:02:26
Those are just some examples of where the. 00:02:27
Crews have been this past month. 00:02:30
The back truck was out. 00:02:32
A couple times. 00:02:35
Roughly about $1800 worth of. 00:02:37
Make this work that the back truck did. 00:02:40
Throughout the county, cleaning up catch basins and along ditch lines and stuff like that, so. 00:02:42
We do have that separated out. 00:02:47
In a separate. 00:02:49
Cheat and everything else so. 00:02:51
Crews been doing a good job trying to. 00:02:53
Get everything clean for the next storm. 00:02:56
You know, next the next storm always brings. 00:02:58
More CRUD downstream so. 00:03:00
It's an endless battle. 00:03:01
OK. Thank you. Sydney, you've been in that. 00:03:05
Role now for a little bit, I don't know if you had any input or feedback or any ways that you would. 00:03:08
Everything information. 00:03:14
Well, that's, that's good too. I didn't know if there's any I haven't got to talk to Chris about yet. 00:03:16
But I will, he'll find out in a minute. 00:03:21
Of course, as he said, we've had the back truck out of quite a bit. 00:03:24
Cleaned out some Colbert's catch basins, things of that nature. 00:03:28
Doing some hydro excavating with it. 00:03:31
If you'll understand what that is. 00:03:34
Also, our new camera will be here tomorrow. 00:03:36
With training. 00:03:40
OK, Chris, I can tell you that yet, but. 00:03:42
Tomorrow. 00:03:46
After we get done with some other training with Chris and we're going to step into that training. 00:03:46
With the uses of our new camera. 00:03:51
I assume constellation is pretty. 00:03:53
It's the same way. It's just a matter of screwing something together. 00:03:55
Gary Biermann is going to be involved. 00:03:59
Those are some IT things have gone with that. 00:04:01
OK. 00:04:04
Good deal. Yeah, Thank you. Thank you. And make a motion to approve the daily maintenance reports and claims. I'll second. 00:04:06
All in favor. 00:04:14
Aye, aye. 00:04:15
OK, erosion control on old business. The December summary report. 00:04:17
Good evening, Heritage Engineering. 00:04:28
So this month we have 32 total sites. 00:04:31
10 are dormant. 00:04:35
18 more compliant. 00:04:36
Two showed a high probability of off site sedimentation and two showed evidence of off site segmentation. 00:04:38
The two that showed off site sedimentation are Bridlewood. 00:04:44
And Gateway Village. 00:04:49
Bridlewood, we've been told that was going to be. 00:04:52
Fixed. 00:04:55
Between Christmas and New Year's? Haven't been out to check that yet. 00:04:56
Check this month and if it's a repeat offender then we'll make sure we take precautions to make sure it doesn't happen again. 00:05:00
In Gateway Village. 00:05:05
We were having trouble getting a hold of the contract, but you guys have seen them on and off, on and off. Last month they were 00:05:07
good. This month it's back on and so. 00:05:10
We'll keep in contact with them to make sure we get that one fixed. 00:05:14
I didn't want to draw your attention to 1 The Highlands #16 that showed. 00:05:17
High probability. 00:05:22
We did receive 2 complaints on that one. 00:05:24
In the months and it's kind of noted there on URL's packet. 00:05:27
And so. 00:05:30
We were told that it was going to be. 00:05:33
Cleaned up. 00:05:35
We went back out today actually to check it. 00:05:36
They made an effort to clean it, but it's not completely clean, so we're going to reach back out to them and make sure they get 00:05:38
that one taken care of. 00:05:41
That one's in the. 00:05:44
A fairly new subdivision, so there's more people driving the roads and so it's just it's noticed. 00:05:45
Right away. So is that the one right behind the gas station? 00:05:49
I'm trying to think the highlights. Yeah, yeah. 00:05:54
I like these little informational. 00:05:58
Boxes. You like those? Yeah, OK, we'll keep that up then. 00:06:01
Normally that's for my CHEAT SHEET. You know, I like that red line version. I can't miss it. 00:06:04
I think it's good for this all becomes part of the public record as well, so it's easier. 00:06:10
For anyone who might have an interest in it, OK. 00:06:15
Any questions? Yeah. What's the next step with the Highlands property for you guys? 00:06:17
Chris. 00:06:22
Well, we'll reach out to them and then. 00:06:23
In January, they still, you know, they made an effort. 00:06:26
It's just not good enough effort. So, you know, we want to work with them, sure. 00:06:29
And so we'll. 00:06:33
Chuck coughing again like hey, we can do a little bit better job and then. 00:06:34
Well, we've seen that they're not listening to us at that point and. 00:06:38
They bring them up by the board for. 00:06:42
What's the violation of? 00:06:45
Or something like that. Sports. 00:06:49
OK. 00:06:51
I'll be glad to go visit. 00:06:53
And anytime that I need to. 00:06:55
So we don't need to get to that point. 00:06:59
Let's see. So you know, they, they, they worked with us a little bit here. 00:07:02
Cleaned up a little bit, maintained an effort. They just need to make a little bit more than effort. 00:07:06
You know, because you know, we're getting customers complaints. We're just, you got people that's living in the subdivision and 00:07:10
houses being constructed. There's always that battle. 00:07:14
Yeah. 00:07:18
And you know, people getting mud on their driveways that they just moved into, they don't really club that. 00:07:20
So far it's been phone calls. You know, I think if it persists, we'll have Chris meet us out there on site and have a face to face 00:07:27
with him on site, make sure it's very clear exactly what we're talking about and then. 00:07:32
Yeah, like Chris, like the best light until you guys leave. 00:07:36
Yeah, and I agree there is a fine balance. 00:07:39
You know, if it's construction, there's. 00:07:43
Sediment that's going to be there. 00:07:47
So but they were working on replacing some fences also to try and clean it up to keep more mud from getting on the roadways. 00:07:49
Not just cleaning up the mud, that is. 00:07:55
Yeah. 00:07:57
OK. 00:07:59
I did want to bring up. 00:08:00
Staff currently staff wise Floyd County has lost one of our inspectors they. 00:08:03
They resigned on us. 00:08:08
And so we have asked heritage to. 00:08:10
Do some of the monthly inspection for us moving forward in January. 00:08:12
The other gentleman that's doing the inspections? 00:08:17
Playing playing in the zoning building development Lost. 00:08:19
Longtime clerk. 00:08:23
And so. 00:08:24
Garrett, who is still on staff. 00:08:25
Needs to focus on. 00:08:28
Plan Commission right now because he's the only one that can. 00:08:29
Do permitting so. 00:08:32
We'll have heritage. 00:08:34
Take over for January and February until we get new people hired and. 00:08:36
More people trained on erosion control, let me say, lost. Those were resignations. Those were resignations. 00:08:40
All right, I just want to be. 00:08:45
Get the board up to speed. Yeah, I understand. I just want to make sure no one in it. 00:08:47
Past. 00:08:51
OK. 00:08:52
Contract. 00:09:00
Good afternoon. I'm Kaden Cunningham with OHM Advisors here to present our contract for 2026. 00:09:06
And I remember last year, you guys like the summary of the accomplishments from the previous year. 00:09:13
Oh great. 00:09:18
Thank you. 00:09:29
So there was other tasks completed inside of this, but these were the major things that were completed as well as various tasks to 00:09:40
support the. 00:09:43
Our new contract covers similar tasks. 00:09:47
And we see this being a lighter year for MS-4 work. 00:09:51
Because this is the last year of the permit. 00:09:54
But then we expect that new draft permit to come out. 00:09:56
Early this year. 00:10:00
So we'll be reviewing that and commenting on it. 00:10:01
On behalf of all the swap communities. 00:10:03
And the contract that we're presenting you all tonight? 00:10:05
Is one that's similar to all SWAT communities. 00:10:08
As part of that. 00:10:11
Joint process that they all. 00:10:13
Undertake. 00:10:14
So on this organized and LED qualified professional inspectors training 35 attendees. 00:10:16
I mean. 00:10:24
How many of those were Floyd County? 00:10:26
Employees that was that training is primarily for. 00:10:29
Like contractors that are out on the site. 00:10:33
So with the new ordinance, you have to have a qualified professional inspector on site to inspect the erosion control. 00:10:35
So we have a list of all those present and their company names. 00:10:42
I don't know if any municipal employees from. 00:10:45
The the two that we had that were training, Albert and Garrett, they did a, they did a training through EPA. 00:10:47
It was like a 7 hour online training. 00:10:55
Because they didn't. We didn't have. 00:10:59
The training setup for the new last year, whatever that was ready so we had them do. 00:11:01
So that two new people. 00:11:07
Or whoever we hire coming up for, we'll have them do this one so. 00:11:08
And is there a fee to Floyd County folks? 00:11:13
If we're doing that or is that included in the contract? Yeah. 00:11:16
What about for other people out in the industry? 00:11:20
Are they paying you a fee for that? 00:11:23
There was a discussion to make it. 00:11:25
A fee or not a fee, and then the swap members decided to make that free for everyone to try and encourage attendance for everyone. 00:11:26
Who is our MS-4? 00:11:38
Person. 00:11:42
You OK? 00:11:43
All right. No comment from the Legal 1 then. 00:11:55
I've reviewed it, I think it's in order. 00:11:59
Just need a motion to accept the contract. 00:12:02
I move to accept that contract. 00:12:05
Also presented. 00:12:08
I'll say all in favor. 00:12:09
Aye. 00:12:12
Thank you. 00:12:14
Heritage engineering contractor. 00:12:18
Bob, we usually live with Heritage engineering. 00:12:21
Get the two of us with the same haircut. 00:12:23
This contract is a renewal of our current contract that. 00:12:29
Chris and and Casey were up here explaining a minute ago. So it includes, it's an hourly contract. So it's only we only build the 00:12:32
time that we actually spend on. 00:12:36
There's no lump sum amount. 00:12:41
It includes plan reviews as we typically do so when the development comes in. 00:12:43
They submit their plans. We have to make sure it complies with the ordinances and codes. 00:12:48
It will. 00:12:53
Continue to include site inspections. 00:12:54
As needed and it's. 00:12:57
Sounds like for now. 00:12:58
Are going to continue on until. 00:12:59
The next employee. 00:13:01
Is hired and trained. 00:13:02
Which we typically will help with that training. 00:13:04
If Chris needs it, which? 00:13:07
You probably will sound like. 00:13:09
The staffing. 00:13:10
And that's just part of it. I mean, you take them out on site with you, you go through the sites, you show them how to do the 00:13:12
reporting, how to fill out the blogs. 00:13:16
And then we also have. 00:13:19
Is we have in the past the miscellaneous support. 00:13:21
If something outside the ordinary comes up and you need assistance in any way with stormwater, we can do that. 00:13:23
It's very minimal. 00:13:29
Our hourly rates are included in the contract. 00:13:32
They have changed slightly from last year. 00:13:35
We had a small bump in some of our staffing. 00:13:38
Salaries for. 00:13:41
Inflationary reasons. 00:13:42
But other Nets the same contract that. 00:13:44
We've had the past. 00:13:46
All right, this is 1 I saw a little bit of back and forth on on e-mail so. 00:13:48
I think I appreciate you being forthcoming with information and if you've got questions on that, I can answer any of those and I. 00:13:53
I'm satisfied at the moment so. 00:14:00
Yeah. 00:14:02
OK, look for a motion. 00:14:06
So moved. I'll second. 00:14:08
All in favor. 00:14:12
Aye. 00:14:13
Great. 00:14:15
And got a repair approval for Paley Pike. 00:14:16
In your packet you'll see a a map of a. 00:14:25
Paoli Pike. 00:14:28
Pipe replacement. 00:14:29
I got Horatio, the county engineer in Sydney, the public works director. 00:14:30
In the audience here, in case you have any questions for them, We were called out. 00:14:35
We were called out in December for a possible collapse of a driveway along Paoli Pike. 00:14:39
So we all went out there and and met, looked at it. 00:14:46
And reviewing that, we looked and saw that the. 00:14:49
Not only. 00:14:52
That part section of the pipe, but the entire pipe all the way to a concrete box was deteriorated past. 00:14:53
It's a useful life. 00:14:59
And even on the other side of the concrete box, that pipe also is needing to be replaced because it's. 00:15:01
Rusted through with everything else. 00:15:08
So we had Sydney, we had Horatio. 00:15:10
Look at it and tell us what size pipe is needed. We had Sydney. 00:15:13
Let us know that the. 00:15:18
The Public Works Creek. 00:15:19
Could be the crew that. 00:15:21
Repairs this and everything else. 00:15:23
They they have the price on that. I'm not sure the the price, but it's one that. 00:15:26
Where the the roadway is starting to. 00:15:31
Undermined a little bit along Peyote Pike. 00:15:34
And again, that one driveway where people. 00:15:37
Access their property is in pretty bad. 00:15:40
Deteriorated shape and then the other one is for a business where? 00:15:43
You know, at any time. 00:15:47
Their parking lot could start to cave in and everything else. So this is pretty much an emergency project we need to. 00:15:49
Kind of move on fast so. 00:15:55
We're looking for court approval to. 00:15:57
Have our. 00:16:00
Public Works crew. 00:16:01
Do this project, purchase the needed material, the piping. 00:16:03
And do an install. 00:16:07
Of the pipeline Paley pipe. 00:16:09
Is that the old Mike's Tavern? 00:16:11
Is that say that, Is that in front of the Old Mike's Tavern? Yes. OK. 00:16:13
So historically. 00:16:18
This was. 00:16:22
Reconstructed after a car went in there. 00:16:25
Several years back. 00:16:28
The whole car went in with two kids in it. 00:16:30
We had to dig all that up to dig that car and the kids out. 00:16:33
I believe that was in the late 90s or something like that. Yeah, I better late 90s. 00:16:38
It's the same location, just. 00:16:44
Same problem. 00:16:46
Yeah. 00:16:47
You know. 00:16:50
A metal, metal, metal. 00:16:52
Galvanized pipe and. 00:16:54
Most of the time pipes. 00:16:56
Have a 20 to 25 year. 00:16:57
Life expectancy, especially. 00:16:59
With the salt and everything that you put on roadways for treatment for. 00:17:01
Ice and everything else. So I mean. 00:17:05
If we could do it in a plastic pipe, we'd rather do that, but it's just not going to be feasible for us. So I think we're looking 00:17:07
at another metal pipe and it is just the nature of the beast. 00:17:12
That you have to use metal in this because of the strength of the pipe needed for the amount of cars that. 00:17:18
Go in and out of the parking lot and everything else. Is there a pipeliner system for those that can extend the life? 00:17:23
I'll let our experts answer that. 00:17:30
Answer your question. 00:17:39
Yes, I'm sure there's a pipeline around there, but do this. 00:17:40
Uh, I don't think we want to go that route. 00:17:45
Because of cost. 00:17:47
The reason? We're using a metal pipe. 00:17:49
Like you said, is strength. 00:17:51
But it's also. 00:17:53
It's so close to the top of the. 00:17:55
You know, it's not very deep. 00:17:57
You have to have a minimum. 00:17:59
Amount of. 00:18:00
Depth from the top to the pipe. 00:18:01
To use plastic. 00:18:04
We can't do this. We're going to have to use metal. 00:18:06
A 2025 year. 00:18:08
Lifespan. That's just normal. 00:18:11
Sometimes you get more, sometimes you get less. 00:18:14
Well, this one being so big. 00:18:18
There's more. There's a lot of air in this pipe. 00:18:19
Is most of the time dry. 00:18:22
So everything that runs down the pipe, the salts, whatever. 00:18:24
Just sitting underneath the bottom out of. 00:18:27
Right now there's there's two significant areas. 00:18:29
Where the pipe is. 00:18:32
Deteriorated so much that it's sucking. 00:18:35
Mm-hmm. What's it called sucking the dirt back in is keeping in the parking lot? 00:18:38
It's also caked in the driveway. 00:18:42
The only thing right now that's holding the driveway up is the fact it's gone. 00:18:44
Is this something like knowing that that's a problem that this back truck that we have can? 00:18:48
Help clear out. 00:18:53
Some of the. 00:18:54
Settlement in there using does it does it have water jets on it? 00:18:56
It does if we get if we get to. 00:19:00
To the point down the road with a new pipe in and we have some. 00:19:02
Settlement. 00:19:05
Yes, this Vectra can clean it up OK. 00:19:06
So would it not be better to? 00:19:09
Dig all that out and put concrete in there. 00:19:12
Concrete tiles. 00:19:16
Or a ton. 00:19:19
I don't know. 00:19:21
I mean, no, Sir. 00:19:22
I'm not. I'm not going to recommend that. 00:19:24
Just, well, that's why I'm asking. 00:19:27
Yeah, just due to cost. 00:19:29
It due to cost. There's no there's no safety advantage, there's no longevity advantage with going back with a concrete. 00:19:32
OK, what is the estimated? 00:19:38
Cost right now estimated cost materials. 00:19:41
$25,000. 00:19:44
OK. That's kind of a storm water budget. 00:19:45
And what's the the time? 00:19:48
Of doing this. 00:19:52
Week project. 00:19:53
Whether? 00:19:56
We'll find out then that we're not expecting. We're looking at 2 weeks. 00:19:58
And so that repair estimate is. 00:20:03
For the pipe? Or is that also replacing? 00:20:05
The surface. 00:20:09
That is replacing the surface With. That said, part of that surface won't be replaced until spring. 00:20:10
Because we can't get. 00:20:16
Asphalt near. 00:20:17
Part of it will be because it's concrete. We can go back with concrete. 00:20:19
The only other thing I would say there could be possible shoulder closures. 00:20:24
While they're doing the work of all Paley pipe with that side. 00:20:28
So this is an example of something that catapults itself to the top of the. 00:20:34
Priority list, right? 00:20:37
So, yeah, yeah. 00:20:39
All right. Well, and the biggest thing with is what Chris had mentioned is starting. 00:20:41
To a road under the edge of the road. 00:20:45
If we if we continue to let that go, eventually it's going to be under the. 00:20:47
I guess you called the southbound lane. 00:20:51
Right, which we don't want. 00:20:53
For sure fire truck. 00:20:55
Back throat garbage truck come through there and it caves in. It's going to be bad. Well, they're semis. 00:20:56
So Mars are up and down there. 00:21:01
I move to approve that. 00:21:07
Repair. 00:21:09
I'll second. 00:21:11
All in favor. 00:21:12
Aye. 00:21:14
We have any public comment? 00:21:19
Dale Mann, Georgetown, in that on private property. 00:21:29
The driveway. You come out of business in the driveway. 00:21:32
That private property. 00:21:37
It's in the right away. 00:21:40
That's private property and I have to pay for that. 00:21:45
If you if you, if you're culvert. 00:21:47
Is in bad shape. You buy the culprit and you will. That's what I'm getting at. 00:21:50
But this is more than just a culvert. This is a culvert and. 00:21:54
That extends. 00:21:58
Through parking lots and everything else that's undermining the roadway. 00:22:00
But it's on private property. 00:22:04
And you? So does my covert. 00:22:05
Involved the roadway or everybody else's does. 00:22:08
But that's private. And I know the rule. We paid for the cover, but we're paying what, $25,000 for cover for this private 00:22:11
property? 00:22:14
Thank you. 00:22:17
Just to just the driveway, the owners of the driveway. 00:22:20
Anyone else have? 00:22:25
Well, just just in addition to that. 00:22:28
There there is some right away takings that have taken place out on Paoli Pike. I couldn't tell you the exact because it kind of 00:22:31
varies through there. 00:22:34
And Dale, I don't know the details of your of your property and where you're. 00:22:38
Your property line does because the center line or whatnot, but. 00:22:41
But there are dedicated right away that have been taken out of the Paoli Pike. 00:22:44
Corridor there. 00:22:48
And it does vary from property to property based on the deeds. 00:22:50
And certain plants have taken certain distances. 00:22:54
But and I don't, I haven't seen any kind of information on where this pipe is in relation to that but. 00:22:57
But that could also be. 00:23:02
You know, put. 00:23:03
Playing into that. So there's a private driveway on on the road, some private property is in the easement. 00:23:05
But it was a property only half the paper. 00:23:12
Yeah, and I, you know, and I'm not gonna dispute the the differences between. 00:23:15
You know, an easement where the pipe is located, but up. 00:23:19
But I just wanted to point out the fact that there is actual dedicated public right away, not an easement. 00:23:21
And I don't exactly know where the pipe is, I'm just. 00:23:26
Throwing it out there. 00:23:29
Let's just go down to the discussion of prescribed and unprescribed roads again. 00:23:33
We could go down a rabbit hole. 00:23:36
OK. 00:23:38
Anything else? 00:23:41
Motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn. 00:23:45
We're done. 00:23:49
Oh. 00:23:51
Yeah. 00:23:56
These luck. 00:23:57