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We're going to open the public hearing. 00:00:00
On the storm water management user fee. 00:00:02
So join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:08
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. 00:00:12
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 00:00:16
And it is a lot of liberty and justice for all. 00:00:21
OK, this is a public hearing. 00:00:26
So. 00:00:28
Do we have any members of the public that would like to express their concern? 00:00:30
Dale. Mann, Georgiann. 00:00:42
Again, I want to thank you, Commissioners, for. 00:00:43
Considering agriculture. 00:00:46
So it should have been kind of do. 00:00:49
For a long time. 00:00:50
But I also want to recommend that the $41.00 is what was agreed. 00:00:52
Was asked years ago. 00:00:56
Before you guys. 00:00:58
And I think it's fair and equitable. I think if stormwater we. 00:01:00
Go by the ordinances. 00:01:03
That has been written. 00:01:05
Would start using stop using so many consultants. 00:01:07
It may be the $41.00 would be sufficient. 00:01:12
Instead of 45 and you know as we talked. 00:01:15
It's not exponential. It doesn't just keep raising because that's too hard. 00:01:17
But in four or five years, if you need more money then ask for it then. 00:01:21
But $41 to $2.00 more was what was told to us. 00:01:25
But not you guys, but the commissioners before, if we ever got it. 00:01:29
If agriculture ever got considered the way they should have been. 00:01:33
You know, in my opinion, again, thank you guys for even doing it period. Thank you. 00:01:36
Thank you. 00:01:45
Anybody else care to weigh in? 00:01:46
You want the? Do you want the standard to give the presentation again or? 00:01:50
I don't know where we can. 00:01:58
Have there been any significant changes since the last time to the? 00:02:01
Since you since since the last time it was presented. 00:02:05
Now, I wouldn't want them to do that. 00:02:09
I heard it the first time. 00:02:14
Guys, good. 00:02:17
Yes. 00:02:19
OK. 00:02:22
Anybody else? 00:02:24
I want to take a motion to close the. 00:02:27
I'll make a motion. 00:02:33
I'll second. 00:02:35
All in favor, aye aye. 00:02:37
Meetings closed. 00:02:39
We'll move on to the. 00:02:41
Storm water board. 00:02:43
Do I need a motion for approval of the minutes for October? 00:02:49
So moved. 00:02:53
And second, all in favor. 00:02:54
Aye. 00:02:57
Aye, the daily maintenance reports Chris. 00:02:59
Well, we have a. 00:03:12
Sydney, Maine The. 00:03:13
Public works director here, and he can probably speak on these a little bit better than I can since he's the one that actually 00:03:15
does the daily maintenance of the. 00:03:20
Different. 00:03:25
Jobs at the. 00:03:27
Guys perform on a daily basis, but. 00:03:29
We were in Highland Lake Estates quite a bit this past month. 00:03:32
We did some opening and some culverts. 00:03:36
The Greenville. 00:03:39
Galena area again opened up some culverts. 00:03:41
Bud Rd. Jefferson Gardens, we were in. 00:03:44
Like I said, we spend a lot of time in Highland Lake Estates. 00:03:47
So we did quite a bit of work this past month. 00:03:50
And everything else. 00:03:53
You had asked at the last meeting. 00:03:55
That we. 00:03:57
Pull out the pumper truck. 00:03:58
Work orders and everything else. So in the back of your. 00:04:02
Packet of this. There you'll see three different work orders of where the pupper truck had been in the. 00:04:05
Past month and everything else so we. 00:04:11
Kind of hit the. 00:04:13
Jefferson Gardens. 00:04:15
Country View. Lafayette area. 00:04:17
And uh. 00:04:19
Catch basins off the Saint Joseph's Road. 00:04:20
Everything else so. 00:04:23
So pump the truck was used and everything wrong so. 00:04:25
Can people? 00:04:27
Know that they can. 00:04:30
Report. 00:04:31
A request for the use of that truck. 00:04:32
Similar to how the pothole. 00:04:36
Number that we have, that we talked about. 00:04:37
I mean, we, we have. 00:04:40
Produce that in the past to let the public know. I don't know if we have in the last few years, especially with the truck that we 00:04:42
had in the past not being. 00:04:46
Serviceable for the most part, but. 00:04:51
You know, we could definitely try to do it. 00:04:53
Through social media, get some more help that yeah, I think they'd be nice. I mean that they can request. 00:04:55
Puffer truck to come out to clean out their driveway culvert again. 00:05:01
They would have to fill out a form that does not hold us liable for cleaning that out if there happened to be any damage they 00:05:05
would be responsible for. 00:05:09
That of their own pipe and everything else. 00:05:14
Yeah, I think that'd be good. 00:05:16
We can. We can do their truck. Let's let's get it. Let's make sure it's used. 00:05:18
That we can do that in starting here in November and. 00:05:22
And get it out a couple different times. Well, I think it's important this time of year too, because, you know, as fall comes and 00:05:25
all the leaves and stuff coming out, it starts including ditches and Oh yeah, you know, other. 00:05:30
You know, avenues for water to. 00:05:35
To exit an area so. 00:05:37
You know, at the end of the day, if you don't get those things clear, you end up having problems with. 00:05:38
Flash flooding and. 00:05:42
You know, water being held in an area that it shouldn't be held in. 00:05:43
Yep 100% it's very important like you said. I think I'll wait for the camera. 00:05:46
So moving on to the register of claims, we have 3 from Ohm, 3 separate amounts. We have one from Heritage Engineering. 00:05:54
Around equipment for the. 00:06:02
The vehicle and then Compass com. 00:06:04
For our ABL's so we're just. 00:06:06
Looking for an approval for the claims for November. 00:06:09
I'll make a motion to approve. 00:06:13
Yeah, I have no questions on those. 00:06:15
2nd that motion. 00:06:18
All in favor. 00:06:19
Aye, aye. 00:06:21
Thank you very much. 00:06:23
All right, we have heritage with some erosion control. 00:06:29
Good evening. 00:06:33
Casey Deyoung with Heritage Engineering. 00:06:36
This month we have 33 total sites. 00:06:39
Eight of those sites are dormant. 00:06:42
Five of them we've identified that are in the latter stage to where they can start filing their NOT notice of termination for the 00:06:44
project and so we've. 00:06:48
Requested as built from them to make sure that everything's been built. 00:06:52
To plan in which case we can proceed with the not so hopefully five days will be coming off in the next couple months. 00:06:55
12 are compliant. 00:07:01
13 have a high probability of offsite sedimentation and 0 have any evidence of offsite sedimentation. 00:07:03
After our inspections, we had two complaints called in. 00:07:09
Last week. 00:07:14
Kevin drove by the site. It was mud on the roadway. 00:07:15
The East Ridge. 00:07:18
And. 00:07:21
Gateway Village. 00:07:22
And Kevin was able to talk to both of the. 00:07:24
Contractors, they are the assures they're going to sweep every single day they have been sweeping. One of them had an issue with 00:07:26
their sweeper guy. 00:07:29
Had a kid I guess and isn't showing up as much as he. 00:07:32
He's been calling in quite a bit. 00:07:34
And so they've assured us both that. 00:07:36
They'll sweep every day, so. 00:07:38
They seem motivated. 00:07:40
So they were fine during our normal inspection, so it must have just been a bad day for them or something. 00:07:41
To get the complaint called in. 00:07:47
Any questions? 00:07:50
No. 00:07:52
Thank you, thank you, thank you. 00:07:54
New business on Ordinance 20/25/24. 00:07:59
Again, thank you for. 00:08:11
Let me come up here. We just had a public hearing in which the public was allowed to speak on. 00:08:12
Ordinance FCO 2025, Dash 2024. 00:08:18
We are looking to give a recommendation to the Floyd County Commissioners. 00:08:22
On. 00:08:27
Which? 00:08:28
Rate that they would like to. 00:08:29
We would like for them to consider for. 00:08:32
This ordinance the rates of $41.00 per year or $45 per year. 00:08:35
I I think we talked about it. What? 00:08:42
$41.00 does for the stormwater department and then what, 45? 00:08:44
Dollars does for the stormwater department. 00:08:48
So. 00:08:50
Basically looking for a recommendation to send to the commissioners. 00:08:53
From this body to. 00:08:57
Move it to the commissioners at their next meeting here at 6:00. 00:08:59
I have no further questions. I'd recommend that this board recommend that the commissioners that we move forward with the approval 00:09:09
at the $45.00 rate. It's the difference between. 00:09:13
Pun intended, treading water and. 00:09:18
And being able to actually make some progress on the To Do List which grows every single. 00:09:21
Month of every year. 00:09:26
Mm-hmm. So. 00:09:28
That's where I am on it that the can be. 00:09:32
Reassessed in 2027. 00:09:35
Not in 2026, according to the way that we've written this out here. 00:09:37
And it squares up what should have been squared up a long time ago with the agricultural community with regards to. 00:09:41
You know, equitably. 00:09:49
You know, charges as far as I'm concerned, that would be my recommendation. 00:09:51
You have to concur, I think. 00:09:55
The data that I've seen, I'd have to say that the 45. 00:09:56
Right, makes the most sense at this point. 00:09:59
So are we looking for a formal motion? I've moved to. 00:10:03
Make that recommendation to commissioners from this board. Well, then I'll second it. 00:10:07
All in favor. 00:10:11
Aye. 00:10:13
This is 45. 00:10:15
Rick, did we need to? 00:10:20
Do that with unanimous consent or. 00:10:21
Well, we just did. OK. Yeah, not no, I'm just. 00:10:23
Didn't know if we needed to verbalize that or. 00:10:26
Yeah. No, no, no. It's just a recommendation. You will. 00:10:28
Goes to the Commission. OK, thank you. 00:10:32
So I did talk to Jason Copperweight. 00:10:34
This afternoon. 00:10:37
I thought the public hearing would last a little bit longer than. 00:10:39
The 5 minutes that it lasted, I told him about 15. He said that he would be able to be here around 4:45. 00:10:42
He's about three more away from that, so we wanted to jump to the back truck. Yeah, let's discuss that. Let's talk about the. 00:10:48
Good evening, Stan. I'll CFO from Floyd County Commissioners. 00:11:06
It's been recommendation from. 00:11:10
Coordination with Sydney Maine, director of public works. 00:11:13
Regarding an addition to the back truck to. 00:11:17
Make it more effective. 00:11:21
To give it a better quality for Floyd County. 00:11:23
I guess operations. 00:11:28
To give Sydney the ability to do more than what he is currently capable of doing. 00:11:30
And which sometimes lends to having to. 00:11:36
Contract out, potentially even. 00:11:39
Not be able to identify damage, that is. 00:11:43
Potentially something that our Rd. department can personally take care of. 00:11:47
More so than again, having a contract out. 00:11:50
The request is to actually add. 00:11:53
An equipment camera to the. 00:11:57
Vac truck that we currently. 00:11:59
How invested in? 00:12:01
Close to. 00:12:03
$4.5 million. 00:12:04
Are 4.450 thousand. 00:12:07
Scare me? 00:12:11
You can see the bullets of sweat for their starting. I was like, wait a minute, I was gonna say sit down. Yeah. 00:12:12
Yeah, umm. 00:12:17
The cost actually was originally presented to the Stormwater board as a little over. 00:12:18
$17,000 were requested 21. 00:12:25
Just in case there were any incidentals. 00:12:28
However, Sydney has been negotiating with brown equipment. 00:12:30
Very strenuously, and he has the cost of this particular piece of equipment. 00:12:34
As well as a. 00:12:38
An E bulldozer scraper that we can also apply to the same purchase. 00:12:40
Giving them even more ability to deal with situations within Floyd County. 00:12:46
The actual cost came back at $16,365. 00:12:52
So we had tried to identify. 00:12:58
An opportunity within the storm water. 00:13:01
Our budget currently. 00:13:03
That we're not asking for additional monies within stormwater. 00:13:06
But that we're taking unused appropriations. 00:13:09
Reapplying them to purchasing this particular piece of equipment. 00:13:11
Which obviously is a great asset also to the stormwater team. 00:13:16
So what was I was able to identify is that it appeared that the salaries for the drainage crew are going to come in approximately 00:13:20
$41,000 under. 00:13:25
The appropriations that were set. 00:13:30
My request is that we can that if you allow this purchase to go through. 00:13:32
I've already filed a transfer with the Floyd County Auditor's Office and the Floyd County Council. It's on the agenda currently. 00:13:36
Pending the outcome of your decision today. 00:13:44
To transfer funds from category 1000 to category. 00:13:46
3000 so that we can go ahead and make this particular equipment purchase. 00:13:51
So. 00:13:56
So it's one piece of equipment, it's a. 00:13:57
Pulled Dozer jet with a camera. 00:14:01
Is that correct? 00:14:03
OK. 00:14:04
The camera, but I don't know about this other piece, so can you explain what that? 00:14:07
Looks like yeah, there's the camera and there's the camera itself. Is is propelled with what's called a bulldozer jet. 00:14:12
Which serves 2 purposes. 1 It serves the purpose of jetting out of culvert. 00:14:19
Or a piping system. 00:14:24
Whichever you're in. 00:14:25
But it also carries the camera. 00:14:27
Mm-hmm. The. 00:14:28
Jet system is actually what propels the camera through the color. 00:14:31
Basically like a nozzle, right? It's like a nozzle. 00:14:35
Yeah, it's just got a lot of high pressure jets on it. 00:14:37
So what you said it in there, you set the camera up on it. 00:14:40
You don't want your cleaning. You don't need the camera. 00:14:43
But once you get it cleaned where you can go in and see inspect the piping itself. 00:14:46
You attach the camera to the top of that. 00:14:49
And The Jets propel it through the piping. 00:14:52
To the jet has. 00:14:54
Utility. 00:14:55
Even without the camera. 00:14:56
Yes, absolutely. 00:14:58
That's right. And and the combination is 16355. Yes, Sir. 00:14:59
Because we've talked about 20 before, does that have a warranty on it? 00:15:04
Yes, Sir. I'm not sure exactly what the warranty is. I haven't sat down with the. 00:15:08
Distributor and the maker. 00:15:13
My one question for them would be that. 00:15:15
Is the warranty different than if we had purchased it along with the truck? 00:15:18
And if it is, just see if they can give us whatever. 00:15:22
We would have gotten. 00:15:24
If we negotiate the best warranty, we can get out of the situation, without a doubt. 00:15:26
And just just to clarify what it does. 00:15:32
A service monitor digging a Cobra that we think's been. 00:15:35
We can look at the government, see if it's bad. 00:15:39
Which is going to save time. 00:15:42
Equipment, uh. 00:15:43
Materials. 00:15:45
It sounds like this could pay for itself. 00:15:46
Pretty quickly. 00:15:48
Yes, based upon our previous conversations and what you presented tonight, so. 00:15:49
I'm in favor and would. 00:15:54
Move to approve that purchase. 00:15:56
Now second it. 00:15:58
All in favor. 00:16:03
Aye. 00:16:05
Thank you very much. 00:16:07
For right? 00:16:09
Absolutely. 00:16:10
Absolutely. 00:16:12
Good deal. 00:16:15
You must see if Jason's closer. 00:16:22
Over. 00:16:57
You're up, buddy. 00:17:04
Yeah, that's pretty cool. 00:17:05
Sorry about that, we thought we'd be playing time with your other document. 00:17:07
I'm good. How are you? 00:17:16
Thanks, Jason. 00:17:19
Good afternoon, Jason, copper weight with. 00:17:30
Primavera and Associates. 00:17:32
1000 Bell Lane, New Albany, IN. 00:17:34
Here representing Athena Mcgroup on Knob's landing. 00:17:36
This is the I think the commissioners are familiar with. This is at the corner of Schreiber Road and Obanson's Road. 00:17:41
Was approved either late last year, earlier this year for. 00:17:47
PUD for mixed-use, retail and multi family. 00:17:51
We've submitted drainage, initial drainage plans and those were. 00:17:55
Reviewed by your third party engineer Heritage. 00:17:59
There were a couple couple comments, a couple things we needed to discuss with you. 00:18:03
One is we are utilizing some underground detention. 00:18:07
Apologize, I'm out of breath a little bit. No, that's fine. 00:18:10
Take your time. 00:18:12
We're using some underground detention for the eastern watershed, which is parallel with Shriver. 00:18:15
Under the terms of your manual, the stormwater board is. 00:18:21
Required. 00:18:25
Authorize that use of underground detention. 00:18:26
This board has previously done that for. 00:18:29
Knob Hill Apartments. 00:18:32
Of 64. 00:18:33
Schreiber Rd. itself and Obinson's Road uses underground detention as well. 00:18:38
Internal to you right away. So it's not it's not unusual. 00:18:42
And your manual provides maintenance requirements. 00:18:45
Bonding requirements Easements requirements so. 00:18:48
The county is well protected. 00:18:51
If you were to authorize that. 00:18:53
The other. 00:18:55
And I know you just. 00:18:56
Adopted a new stormwater manual. 00:18:58
But this was submitted under the old stormwater manual, so. 00:18:59
Which comes with some of the. 00:19:03
Problems that you've seen as far as small orifice. 00:19:04
Orifices and that kind of thing. 00:19:07
This is a 7 acre site and so it has. 00:19:09
But because it's so small, but it has four different watersheds. 00:19:12
Places where water leaves the site. 00:19:16
Which makes. 00:19:18
That's seven acres divided roughly into 4. 00:19:19
Which makes those discharges very small. 00:19:21
The way your ordinance compares. 00:19:24
Pre and post development. 00:19:26
Drives the orifices down as well. 00:19:27
We did put in as many. 00:19:30
Clogging protection devices as we always did turn down. 00:19:33
Orifices with sumps. 00:19:37
Grades that protect it to keep them from. 00:19:39
From clogging. 00:19:41
Also the underground storage has. 00:19:42
What's called isolator? 00:19:45
Which means that anything goes in there. 00:19:46
Basically push to a side that has a filtration device in it. 00:19:49
Basically it's aligning the. 00:19:53
Underground detention with. 00:19:55
Filter fabric. 00:19:57
So it hopefully it filters out a lot of those sediments before they can ever get to the council structure. So. 00:19:58
Again, I think it's well protected. 00:20:03
And so I would ask you for approval of those two items. 00:20:05
So I have a question for you. 00:20:08
Is anything deviated from the original plan or are you just trying to? 00:20:10
Go with the new. 00:20:15
Manual. 00:20:17
It's still the old manual because it was submitted prior to the new manual. 00:20:18
As far as the site plan, that nothing's deviated from the site plan that was approved. 00:20:23
That's just curious. This is just one of the many. 00:20:28
Technical items that we need to satisfy before. 00:20:30
Construction can begin on the multifamily property. My question is similar. 00:20:33
If this had been. 00:20:37
Approved under the new manual. 00:20:38
Would there be any need for any? 00:20:40
I don't know because we've not run the calculations under the new manual. It was just all submitted under the old OK. 00:20:43
We didn't. We didn't know what the manual said until right it was adopted. 00:20:48
John, did you have any thoughts? 00:20:56
No, I mean we've. 00:21:01
We've approved. 00:21:02
A lot of. 00:21:03
Underground attention. 00:21:05
You know, throughout and to make projects work. So I don't, I don't have. 00:21:06
What's the oldest? 00:21:10
Underground attention similar to this. 00:21:12
To your knowledge in the county? 00:21:14
10 years ago. 20 years ago. 00:21:16
My next question is, is it still functioning, you know, or have there been upgrades to? 00:21:20
Heather maintained. I mean, I would suspect there is, there's underground out there, 20 years old. 00:21:23
Probably the oldest one that we did. 00:21:30
Was in New Albany, not in the county. 00:21:32
Was the. 00:21:34
The strip center at Talena Dr. behind the old Frisch's OK, that's been there for a good 15 years, if not 20. 00:21:35
Yeah, and it's still functioning well as far as I know. 00:21:42
For CBS's at the hospitals of underground detention, that's probably getting close to 10. 00:21:47
On State Street. 00:21:51
Nob Hill is probably at. 00:21:53
Five or six years, it's not been turned over yet, but. 00:21:55
As far as I know, it's functioning. 00:21:59
Pretty common practice isn't it, within the industry? 00:22:01
When you it's not preferred because it's more expensive, right? But when you have high lane values. 00:22:03
And most of it's paved. The only choice you have is to. 00:22:09
Put it underground, sorry. 00:22:12
It's not certainly not a developer's choice. 00:22:13
But they have. 00:22:16
Proven to work well. 00:22:17
Yeah. 00:22:18
We just did one over on Veterans. 00:22:20
Underground and. 00:22:23
Yeah, so it's happening. 00:22:25
Mm-hmm. Yeah, currently. 00:22:27
I think as land values. 00:22:29
Increase. 00:22:31
Which requires more. 00:22:32
Dense developments. I think you're going to be seeing them more and more as time goes on. 00:22:34
Well, I have no issue with it. 00:22:41
The only thing that I have concerned with is that. 00:22:44
Basin 1 is. 00:22:54
Right up against the existing home there on Testimony Drive. 00:22:57
We talked to Mike about this. It's one of our comments. I think it's coming 22, maybe just how the basin is higher than the 00:23:01
finished floor of that building. 00:23:05
And it's only. 00:23:09
A few feet off the edge of that building. 00:23:11
And so he was going to work on that. We haven't seen anything on that yet, you know, but that's one of the. 00:23:13
Small orifice sizes that you're talking about again? 00:23:17
Which home? 00:23:19
So. 00:23:20
Yeah, Casey, which one? 00:23:22
Yeah, that's basin one right there. It's not the converse aren't showing on this, but the building looks like it's like right on 00:23:26
the property line. 00:23:29
And the basin is. 00:23:33
3/4. 00:23:34
But he also might convert I do you know? 00:23:35
But the. 00:23:38
You know the. 00:23:39
The stormwater manual requires that. 00:23:40
Upstream and adjacent basins. 00:23:43
That there be a 1 foot buffer between the. 00:23:46
Minimal opening elevation. 00:23:48
Jason Structures in the top of Burn, we don't have that in this case. So Michael is going to work on that for yeah. 00:23:50
I don't know what aim of that, you know. Sure. Well, we have 0 lot lines a lot of times. 00:23:56
Right, especially with these patio homes and it wouldn't surprise me if the houses. 00:24:02
Right down the line, I know Woods. Lafayette's like that. 00:24:07
I think in if you step off your. 00:24:10
If you try to go to your front door. 00:24:14
To your back door, your trust. 00:24:17
Right. I mean I think it is 0 lot line and also Mr. Theman had. 00:24:19
Part of the zoning approval was for him to construct a wall. 00:24:25
Along that. 00:24:28
On his side to make sure. 00:24:29
That it's buffered from his development. 00:24:31
So I think it's well protected from the stormwater we we are still working through. 00:24:33
Lowering that basin to make sure that it's. 00:24:37
Below. 00:24:40
I guess what we're asking for is to is to approve down to. 00:24:42
What we've shown on the plans, which the smallest ones are. 00:24:46
2 1/2 inches. 00:24:49
So we would just ask you to approve down to that size and then as we continue to work with Heritage to achieve approval. 00:24:52
Will either be there or larger. 00:24:58
So we're just approving the orifice size and then all of that will get worked out. We're still and I'm not asking for a variance 00:25:01
for any of that. 00:25:04
So. 00:25:07
That's our plan. 00:25:10
OK, as long as it's if we if we can't, we'll have further discussions, but that's our plan. 00:25:11
They always work with this in advance, that's my only concern is. 00:25:15
You know, having a water service higher than the concerning so. 00:25:17
And I can tell you that the piping system that's there. 00:25:23
Is sized to take 100 year storm post development. 00:25:25
So but but there can be storms that are larger than 100, so obviously want to. 00:25:28
We don't want to. 00:25:32
Damaged downstream land owners, obviously. So yeah, we can. We will continue to work with Harries on that. 00:25:33
Yeah. I'd almost recommend to the board that you could approve this conditionally that. 00:25:37
They are able to get that basin below the. 00:25:42
Bottom floor of the neighboring. 00:25:46
Structure. Umm. 00:25:48
And then you could prove that. 00:25:50
Emphasize on that condition. 00:25:52
They're able to. If they're not able to, then they need to come back in front of the board and talk about why they can't and maybe 00:25:53
what the alternative plan would be for that. 00:25:57
I think that, yeah, I mean, I agree that's. 00:26:03
Basically what I'm asking for if I can't. 00:26:06
If I can't meet, if I can't answer all their concerns. 00:26:08
We would have to come back and have a discussion, but. 00:26:11
As it is, we're intending to. 00:26:13
Yeah, you guys always. 00:26:15
Yeah. 00:26:16
Yeah, we're intending to address their concerns. 00:26:17
It's just that they can't approve a smaller size without your approval. 00:26:21
Nor can they approve an underground basin without your approval. 00:26:25
So anything that they've noted? 00:26:28
We're trying to address. 00:26:30
If we can't, then we'll have to come back. 00:26:31
OK, looking for a motion. 00:26:36
Well, I'll make a motion that we approve based upon the staff recommendations. 00:26:38
So orphosizes down to 2 1/2 inches, contingent upon. 00:26:44
All of the other concerns being. 00:26:48
Addressed OK. 00:26:50
I'll second that. 00:26:54
All in favor. 00:26:56
Aye. 00:26:58
Thank you very much. 00:27:00
Appreciate it. 00:27:02
OK. 00:27:06
Any public comment? 00:27:10
Motion to adjourn. 00:27:13
Motion to adjourn carried. 00:27:14

Transcript

Event transcript
We're going to open the public hearing. 00:00:00
On the storm water management user fee. 00:00:02
So join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:08
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. 00:00:12
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 00:00:16
And it is a lot of liberty and justice for all. 00:00:21
OK, this is a public hearing. 00:00:26
So. 00:00:28
Do we have any members of the public that would like to express their concern? 00:00:30
Dale. Mann, Georgiann. 00:00:42
Again, I want to thank you, Commissioners, for. 00:00:43
Considering agriculture. 00:00:46
So it should have been kind of do. 00:00:49
For a long time. 00:00:50
But I also want to recommend that the $41.00 is what was agreed. 00:00:52
Was asked years ago. 00:00:56
Before you guys. 00:00:58
And I think it's fair and equitable. I think if stormwater we. 00:01:00
Go by the ordinances. 00:01:03
That has been written. 00:01:05
Would start using stop using so many consultants. 00:01:07
It may be the $41.00 would be sufficient. 00:01:12
Instead of 45 and you know as we talked. 00:01:15
It's not exponential. It doesn't just keep raising because that's too hard. 00:01:17
But in four or five years, if you need more money then ask for it then. 00:01:21
But $41 to $2.00 more was what was told to us. 00:01:25
But not you guys, but the commissioners before, if we ever got it. 00:01:29
If agriculture ever got considered the way they should have been. 00:01:33
You know, in my opinion, again, thank you guys for even doing it period. Thank you. 00:01:36
Thank you. 00:01:45
Anybody else care to weigh in? 00:01:46
You want the? Do you want the standard to give the presentation again or? 00:01:50
I don't know where we can. 00:01:58
Have there been any significant changes since the last time to the? 00:02:01
Since you since since the last time it was presented. 00:02:05
Now, I wouldn't want them to do that. 00:02:09
I heard it the first time. 00:02:14
Guys, good. 00:02:17
Yes. 00:02:19
OK. 00:02:22
Anybody else? 00:02:24
I want to take a motion to close the. 00:02:27
I'll make a motion. 00:02:33
I'll second. 00:02:35
All in favor, aye aye. 00:02:37
Meetings closed. 00:02:39
We'll move on to the. 00:02:41
Storm water board. 00:02:43
Do I need a motion for approval of the minutes for October? 00:02:49
So moved. 00:02:53
And second, all in favor. 00:02:54
Aye. 00:02:57
Aye, the daily maintenance reports Chris. 00:02:59
Well, we have a. 00:03:12
Sydney, Maine The. 00:03:13
Public works director here, and he can probably speak on these a little bit better than I can since he's the one that actually 00:03:15
does the daily maintenance of the. 00:03:20
Different. 00:03:25
Jobs at the. 00:03:27
Guys perform on a daily basis, but. 00:03:29
We were in Highland Lake Estates quite a bit this past month. 00:03:32
We did some opening and some culverts. 00:03:36
The Greenville. 00:03:39
Galena area again opened up some culverts. 00:03:41
Bud Rd. Jefferson Gardens, we were in. 00:03:44
Like I said, we spend a lot of time in Highland Lake Estates. 00:03:47
So we did quite a bit of work this past month. 00:03:50
And everything else. 00:03:53
You had asked at the last meeting. 00:03:55
That we. 00:03:57
Pull out the pumper truck. 00:03:58
Work orders and everything else. So in the back of your. 00:04:02
Packet of this. There you'll see three different work orders of where the pupper truck had been in the. 00:04:05
Past month and everything else so we. 00:04:11
Kind of hit the. 00:04:13
Jefferson Gardens. 00:04:15
Country View. Lafayette area. 00:04:17
And uh. 00:04:19
Catch basins off the Saint Joseph's Road. 00:04:20
Everything else so. 00:04:23
So pump the truck was used and everything wrong so. 00:04:25
Can people? 00:04:27
Know that they can. 00:04:30
Report. 00:04:31
A request for the use of that truck. 00:04:32
Similar to how the pothole. 00:04:36
Number that we have, that we talked about. 00:04:37
I mean, we, we have. 00:04:40
Produce that in the past to let the public know. I don't know if we have in the last few years, especially with the truck that we 00:04:42
had in the past not being. 00:04:46
Serviceable for the most part, but. 00:04:51
You know, we could definitely try to do it. 00:04:53
Through social media, get some more help that yeah, I think they'd be nice. I mean that they can request. 00:04:55
Puffer truck to come out to clean out their driveway culvert again. 00:05:01
They would have to fill out a form that does not hold us liable for cleaning that out if there happened to be any damage they 00:05:05
would be responsible for. 00:05:09
That of their own pipe and everything else. 00:05:14
Yeah, I think that'd be good. 00:05:16
We can. We can do their truck. Let's let's get it. Let's make sure it's used. 00:05:18
That we can do that in starting here in November and. 00:05:22
And get it out a couple different times. Well, I think it's important this time of year too, because, you know, as fall comes and 00:05:25
all the leaves and stuff coming out, it starts including ditches and Oh yeah, you know, other. 00:05:30
You know, avenues for water to. 00:05:35
To exit an area so. 00:05:37
You know, at the end of the day, if you don't get those things clear, you end up having problems with. 00:05:38
Flash flooding and. 00:05:42
You know, water being held in an area that it shouldn't be held in. 00:05:43
Yep 100% it's very important like you said. I think I'll wait for the camera. 00:05:46
So moving on to the register of claims, we have 3 from Ohm, 3 separate amounts. We have one from Heritage Engineering. 00:05:54
Around equipment for the. 00:06:02
The vehicle and then Compass com. 00:06:04
For our ABL's so we're just. 00:06:06
Looking for an approval for the claims for November. 00:06:09
I'll make a motion to approve. 00:06:13
Yeah, I have no questions on those. 00:06:15
2nd that motion. 00:06:18
All in favor. 00:06:19
Aye, aye. 00:06:21
Thank you very much. 00:06:23
All right, we have heritage with some erosion control. 00:06:29
Good evening. 00:06:33
Casey Deyoung with Heritage Engineering. 00:06:36
This month we have 33 total sites. 00:06:39
Eight of those sites are dormant. 00:06:42
Five of them we've identified that are in the latter stage to where they can start filing their NOT notice of termination for the 00:06:44
project and so we've. 00:06:48
Requested as built from them to make sure that everything's been built. 00:06:52
To plan in which case we can proceed with the not so hopefully five days will be coming off in the next couple months. 00:06:55
12 are compliant. 00:07:01
13 have a high probability of offsite sedimentation and 0 have any evidence of offsite sedimentation. 00:07:03
After our inspections, we had two complaints called in. 00:07:09
Last week. 00:07:14
Kevin drove by the site. It was mud on the roadway. 00:07:15
The East Ridge. 00:07:18
And. 00:07:21
Gateway Village. 00:07:22
And Kevin was able to talk to both of the. 00:07:24
Contractors, they are the assures they're going to sweep every single day they have been sweeping. One of them had an issue with 00:07:26
their sweeper guy. 00:07:29
Had a kid I guess and isn't showing up as much as he. 00:07:32
He's been calling in quite a bit. 00:07:34
And so they've assured us both that. 00:07:36
They'll sweep every day, so. 00:07:38
They seem motivated. 00:07:40
So they were fine during our normal inspection, so it must have just been a bad day for them or something. 00:07:41
To get the complaint called in. 00:07:47
Any questions? 00:07:50
No. 00:07:52
Thank you, thank you, thank you. 00:07:54
New business on Ordinance 20/25/24. 00:07:59
Again, thank you for. 00:08:11
Let me come up here. We just had a public hearing in which the public was allowed to speak on. 00:08:12
Ordinance FCO 2025, Dash 2024. 00:08:18
We are looking to give a recommendation to the Floyd County Commissioners. 00:08:22
On. 00:08:27
Which? 00:08:28
Rate that they would like to. 00:08:29
We would like for them to consider for. 00:08:32
This ordinance the rates of $41.00 per year or $45 per year. 00:08:35
I I think we talked about it. What? 00:08:42
$41.00 does for the stormwater department and then what, 45? 00:08:44
Dollars does for the stormwater department. 00:08:48
So. 00:08:50
Basically looking for a recommendation to send to the commissioners. 00:08:53
From this body to. 00:08:57
Move it to the commissioners at their next meeting here at 6:00. 00:08:59
I have no further questions. I'd recommend that this board recommend that the commissioners that we move forward with the approval 00:09:09
at the $45.00 rate. It's the difference between. 00:09:13
Pun intended, treading water and. 00:09:18
And being able to actually make some progress on the To Do List which grows every single. 00:09:21
Month of every year. 00:09:26
Mm-hmm. So. 00:09:28
That's where I am on it that the can be. 00:09:32
Reassessed in 2027. 00:09:35
Not in 2026, according to the way that we've written this out here. 00:09:37
And it squares up what should have been squared up a long time ago with the agricultural community with regards to. 00:09:41
You know, equitably. 00:09:49
You know, charges as far as I'm concerned, that would be my recommendation. 00:09:51
You have to concur, I think. 00:09:55
The data that I've seen, I'd have to say that the 45. 00:09:56
Right, makes the most sense at this point. 00:09:59
So are we looking for a formal motion? I've moved to. 00:10:03
Make that recommendation to commissioners from this board. Well, then I'll second it. 00:10:07
All in favor. 00:10:11
Aye. 00:10:13
This is 45. 00:10:15
Rick, did we need to? 00:10:20
Do that with unanimous consent or. 00:10:21
Well, we just did. OK. Yeah, not no, I'm just. 00:10:23
Didn't know if we needed to verbalize that or. 00:10:26
Yeah. No, no, no. It's just a recommendation. You will. 00:10:28
Goes to the Commission. OK, thank you. 00:10:32
So I did talk to Jason Copperweight. 00:10:34
This afternoon. 00:10:37
I thought the public hearing would last a little bit longer than. 00:10:39
The 5 minutes that it lasted, I told him about 15. He said that he would be able to be here around 4:45. 00:10:42
He's about three more away from that, so we wanted to jump to the back truck. Yeah, let's discuss that. Let's talk about the. 00:10:48
Good evening, Stan. I'll CFO from Floyd County Commissioners. 00:11:06
It's been recommendation from. 00:11:10
Coordination with Sydney Maine, director of public works. 00:11:13
Regarding an addition to the back truck to. 00:11:17
Make it more effective. 00:11:21
To give it a better quality for Floyd County. 00:11:23
I guess operations. 00:11:28
To give Sydney the ability to do more than what he is currently capable of doing. 00:11:30
And which sometimes lends to having to. 00:11:36
Contract out, potentially even. 00:11:39
Not be able to identify damage, that is. 00:11:43
Potentially something that our Rd. department can personally take care of. 00:11:47
More so than again, having a contract out. 00:11:50
The request is to actually add. 00:11:53
An equipment camera to the. 00:11:57
Vac truck that we currently. 00:11:59
How invested in? 00:12:01
Close to. 00:12:03
$4.5 million. 00:12:04
Are 4.450 thousand. 00:12:07
Scare me? 00:12:11
You can see the bullets of sweat for their starting. I was like, wait a minute, I was gonna say sit down. Yeah. 00:12:12
Yeah, umm. 00:12:17
The cost actually was originally presented to the Stormwater board as a little over. 00:12:18
$17,000 were requested 21. 00:12:25
Just in case there were any incidentals. 00:12:28
However, Sydney has been negotiating with brown equipment. 00:12:30
Very strenuously, and he has the cost of this particular piece of equipment. 00:12:34
As well as a. 00:12:38
An E bulldozer scraper that we can also apply to the same purchase. 00:12:40
Giving them even more ability to deal with situations within Floyd County. 00:12:46
The actual cost came back at $16,365. 00:12:52
So we had tried to identify. 00:12:58
An opportunity within the storm water. 00:13:01
Our budget currently. 00:13:03
That we're not asking for additional monies within stormwater. 00:13:06
But that we're taking unused appropriations. 00:13:09
Reapplying them to purchasing this particular piece of equipment. 00:13:11
Which obviously is a great asset also to the stormwater team. 00:13:16
So what was I was able to identify is that it appeared that the salaries for the drainage crew are going to come in approximately 00:13:20
$41,000 under. 00:13:25
The appropriations that were set. 00:13:30
My request is that we can that if you allow this purchase to go through. 00:13:32
I've already filed a transfer with the Floyd County Auditor's Office and the Floyd County Council. It's on the agenda currently. 00:13:36
Pending the outcome of your decision today. 00:13:44
To transfer funds from category 1000 to category. 00:13:46
3000 so that we can go ahead and make this particular equipment purchase. 00:13:51
So. 00:13:56
So it's one piece of equipment, it's a. 00:13:57
Pulled Dozer jet with a camera. 00:14:01
Is that correct? 00:14:03
OK. 00:14:04
The camera, but I don't know about this other piece, so can you explain what that? 00:14:07
Looks like yeah, there's the camera and there's the camera itself. Is is propelled with what's called a bulldozer jet. 00:14:12
Which serves 2 purposes. 1 It serves the purpose of jetting out of culvert. 00:14:19
Or a piping system. 00:14:24
Whichever you're in. 00:14:25
But it also carries the camera. 00:14:27
Mm-hmm. The. 00:14:28
Jet system is actually what propels the camera through the color. 00:14:31
Basically like a nozzle, right? It's like a nozzle. 00:14:35
Yeah, it's just got a lot of high pressure jets on it. 00:14:37
So what you said it in there, you set the camera up on it. 00:14:40
You don't want your cleaning. You don't need the camera. 00:14:43
But once you get it cleaned where you can go in and see inspect the piping itself. 00:14:46
You attach the camera to the top of that. 00:14:49
And The Jets propel it through the piping. 00:14:52
To the jet has. 00:14:54
Utility. 00:14:55
Even without the camera. 00:14:56
Yes, absolutely. 00:14:58
That's right. And and the combination is 16355. Yes, Sir. 00:14:59
Because we've talked about 20 before, does that have a warranty on it? 00:15:04
Yes, Sir. I'm not sure exactly what the warranty is. I haven't sat down with the. 00:15:08
Distributor and the maker. 00:15:13
My one question for them would be that. 00:15:15
Is the warranty different than if we had purchased it along with the truck? 00:15:18
And if it is, just see if they can give us whatever. 00:15:22
We would have gotten. 00:15:24
If we negotiate the best warranty, we can get out of the situation, without a doubt. 00:15:26
And just just to clarify what it does. 00:15:32
A service monitor digging a Cobra that we think's been. 00:15:35
We can look at the government, see if it's bad. 00:15:39
Which is going to save time. 00:15:42
Equipment, uh. 00:15:43
Materials. 00:15:45
It sounds like this could pay for itself. 00:15:46
Pretty quickly. 00:15:48
Yes, based upon our previous conversations and what you presented tonight, so. 00:15:49
I'm in favor and would. 00:15:54
Move to approve that purchase. 00:15:56
Now second it. 00:15:58
All in favor. 00:16:03
Aye. 00:16:05
Thank you very much. 00:16:07
For right? 00:16:09
Absolutely. 00:16:10
Absolutely. 00:16:12
Good deal. 00:16:15
You must see if Jason's closer. 00:16:22
Over. 00:16:57
You're up, buddy. 00:17:04
Yeah, that's pretty cool. 00:17:05
Sorry about that, we thought we'd be playing time with your other document. 00:17:07
I'm good. How are you? 00:17:16
Thanks, Jason. 00:17:19
Good afternoon, Jason, copper weight with. 00:17:30
Primavera and Associates. 00:17:32
1000 Bell Lane, New Albany, IN. 00:17:34
Here representing Athena Mcgroup on Knob's landing. 00:17:36
This is the I think the commissioners are familiar with. This is at the corner of Schreiber Road and Obanson's Road. 00:17:41
Was approved either late last year, earlier this year for. 00:17:47
PUD for mixed-use, retail and multi family. 00:17:51
We've submitted drainage, initial drainage plans and those were. 00:17:55
Reviewed by your third party engineer Heritage. 00:17:59
There were a couple couple comments, a couple things we needed to discuss with you. 00:18:03
One is we are utilizing some underground detention. 00:18:07
Apologize, I'm out of breath a little bit. No, that's fine. 00:18:10
Take your time. 00:18:12
We're using some underground detention for the eastern watershed, which is parallel with Shriver. 00:18:15
Under the terms of your manual, the stormwater board is. 00:18:21
Required. 00:18:25
Authorize that use of underground detention. 00:18:26
This board has previously done that for. 00:18:29
Knob Hill Apartments. 00:18:32
Of 64. 00:18:33
Schreiber Rd. itself and Obinson's Road uses underground detention as well. 00:18:38
Internal to you right away. So it's not it's not unusual. 00:18:42
And your manual provides maintenance requirements. 00:18:45
Bonding requirements Easements requirements so. 00:18:48
The county is well protected. 00:18:51
If you were to authorize that. 00:18:53
The other. 00:18:55
And I know you just. 00:18:56
Adopted a new stormwater manual. 00:18:58
But this was submitted under the old stormwater manual, so. 00:18:59
Which comes with some of the. 00:19:03
Problems that you've seen as far as small orifice. 00:19:04
Orifices and that kind of thing. 00:19:07
This is a 7 acre site and so it has. 00:19:09
But because it's so small, but it has four different watersheds. 00:19:12
Places where water leaves the site. 00:19:16
Which makes. 00:19:18
That's seven acres divided roughly into 4. 00:19:19
Which makes those discharges very small. 00:19:21
The way your ordinance compares. 00:19:24
Pre and post development. 00:19:26
Drives the orifices down as well. 00:19:27
We did put in as many. 00:19:30
Clogging protection devices as we always did turn down. 00:19:33
Orifices with sumps. 00:19:37
Grades that protect it to keep them from. 00:19:39
From clogging. 00:19:41
Also the underground storage has. 00:19:42
What's called isolator? 00:19:45
Which means that anything goes in there. 00:19:46
Basically push to a side that has a filtration device in it. 00:19:49
Basically it's aligning the. 00:19:53
Underground detention with. 00:19:55
Filter fabric. 00:19:57
So it hopefully it filters out a lot of those sediments before they can ever get to the council structure. So. 00:19:58
Again, I think it's well protected. 00:20:03
And so I would ask you for approval of those two items. 00:20:05
So I have a question for you. 00:20:08
Is anything deviated from the original plan or are you just trying to? 00:20:10
Go with the new. 00:20:15
Manual. 00:20:17
It's still the old manual because it was submitted prior to the new manual. 00:20:18
As far as the site plan, that nothing's deviated from the site plan that was approved. 00:20:23
That's just curious. This is just one of the many. 00:20:28
Technical items that we need to satisfy before. 00:20:30
Construction can begin on the multifamily property. My question is similar. 00:20:33
If this had been. 00:20:37
Approved under the new manual. 00:20:38
Would there be any need for any? 00:20:40
I don't know because we've not run the calculations under the new manual. It was just all submitted under the old OK. 00:20:43
We didn't. We didn't know what the manual said until right it was adopted. 00:20:48
John, did you have any thoughts? 00:20:56
No, I mean we've. 00:21:01
We've approved. 00:21:02
A lot of. 00:21:03
Underground attention. 00:21:05
You know, throughout and to make projects work. So I don't, I don't have. 00:21:06
What's the oldest? 00:21:10
Underground attention similar to this. 00:21:12
To your knowledge in the county? 00:21:14
10 years ago. 20 years ago. 00:21:16
My next question is, is it still functioning, you know, or have there been upgrades to? 00:21:20
Heather maintained. I mean, I would suspect there is, there's underground out there, 20 years old. 00:21:23
Probably the oldest one that we did. 00:21:30
Was in New Albany, not in the county. 00:21:32
Was the. 00:21:34
The strip center at Talena Dr. behind the old Frisch's OK, that's been there for a good 15 years, if not 20. 00:21:35
Yeah, and it's still functioning well as far as I know. 00:21:42
For CBS's at the hospitals of underground detention, that's probably getting close to 10. 00:21:47
On State Street. 00:21:51
Nob Hill is probably at. 00:21:53
Five or six years, it's not been turned over yet, but. 00:21:55
As far as I know, it's functioning. 00:21:59
Pretty common practice isn't it, within the industry? 00:22:01
When you it's not preferred because it's more expensive, right? But when you have high lane values. 00:22:03
And most of it's paved. The only choice you have is to. 00:22:09
Put it underground, sorry. 00:22:12
It's not certainly not a developer's choice. 00:22:13
But they have. 00:22:16
Proven to work well. 00:22:17
Yeah. 00:22:18
We just did one over on Veterans. 00:22:20
Underground and. 00:22:23
Yeah, so it's happening. 00:22:25
Mm-hmm. Yeah, currently. 00:22:27
I think as land values. 00:22:29
Increase. 00:22:31
Which requires more. 00:22:32
Dense developments. I think you're going to be seeing them more and more as time goes on. 00:22:34
Well, I have no issue with it. 00:22:41
The only thing that I have concerned with is that. 00:22:44
Basin 1 is. 00:22:54
Right up against the existing home there on Testimony Drive. 00:22:57
We talked to Mike about this. It's one of our comments. I think it's coming 22, maybe just how the basin is higher than the 00:23:01
finished floor of that building. 00:23:05
And it's only. 00:23:09
A few feet off the edge of that building. 00:23:11
And so he was going to work on that. We haven't seen anything on that yet, you know, but that's one of the. 00:23:13
Small orifice sizes that you're talking about again? 00:23:17
Which home? 00:23:19
So. 00:23:20
Yeah, Casey, which one? 00:23:22
Yeah, that's basin one right there. It's not the converse aren't showing on this, but the building looks like it's like right on 00:23:26
the property line. 00:23:29
And the basin is. 00:23:33
3/4. 00:23:34
But he also might convert I do you know? 00:23:35
But the. 00:23:38
You know the. 00:23:39
The stormwater manual requires that. 00:23:40
Upstream and adjacent basins. 00:23:43
That there be a 1 foot buffer between the. 00:23:46
Minimal opening elevation. 00:23:48
Jason Structures in the top of Burn, we don't have that in this case. So Michael is going to work on that for yeah. 00:23:50
I don't know what aim of that, you know. Sure. Well, we have 0 lot lines a lot of times. 00:23:56
Right, especially with these patio homes and it wouldn't surprise me if the houses. 00:24:02
Right down the line, I know Woods. Lafayette's like that. 00:24:07
I think in if you step off your. 00:24:10
If you try to go to your front door. 00:24:14
To your back door, your trust. 00:24:17
Right. I mean I think it is 0 lot line and also Mr. Theman had. 00:24:19
Part of the zoning approval was for him to construct a wall. 00:24:25
Along that. 00:24:28
On his side to make sure. 00:24:29
That it's buffered from his development. 00:24:31
So I think it's well protected from the stormwater we we are still working through. 00:24:33
Lowering that basin to make sure that it's. 00:24:37
Below. 00:24:40
I guess what we're asking for is to is to approve down to. 00:24:42
What we've shown on the plans, which the smallest ones are. 00:24:46
2 1/2 inches. 00:24:49
So we would just ask you to approve down to that size and then as we continue to work with Heritage to achieve approval. 00:24:52
Will either be there or larger. 00:24:58
So we're just approving the orifice size and then all of that will get worked out. We're still and I'm not asking for a variance 00:25:01
for any of that. 00:25:04
So. 00:25:07
That's our plan. 00:25:10
OK, as long as it's if we if we can't, we'll have further discussions, but that's our plan. 00:25:11
They always work with this in advance, that's my only concern is. 00:25:15
You know, having a water service higher than the concerning so. 00:25:17
And I can tell you that the piping system that's there. 00:25:23
Is sized to take 100 year storm post development. 00:25:25
So but but there can be storms that are larger than 100, so obviously want to. 00:25:28
We don't want to. 00:25:32
Damaged downstream land owners, obviously. So yeah, we can. We will continue to work with Harries on that. 00:25:33
Yeah. I'd almost recommend to the board that you could approve this conditionally that. 00:25:37
They are able to get that basin below the. 00:25:42
Bottom floor of the neighboring. 00:25:46
Structure. Umm. 00:25:48
And then you could prove that. 00:25:50
Emphasize on that condition. 00:25:52
They're able to. If they're not able to, then they need to come back in front of the board and talk about why they can't and maybe 00:25:53
what the alternative plan would be for that. 00:25:57
I think that, yeah, I mean, I agree that's. 00:26:03
Basically what I'm asking for if I can't. 00:26:06
If I can't meet, if I can't answer all their concerns. 00:26:08
We would have to come back and have a discussion, but. 00:26:11
As it is, we're intending to. 00:26:13
Yeah, you guys always. 00:26:15
Yeah. 00:26:16
Yeah, we're intending to address their concerns. 00:26:17
It's just that they can't approve a smaller size without your approval. 00:26:21
Nor can they approve an underground basin without your approval. 00:26:25
So anything that they've noted? 00:26:28
We're trying to address. 00:26:30
If we can't, then we'll have to come back. 00:26:31
OK, looking for a motion. 00:26:36
Well, I'll make a motion that we approve based upon the staff recommendations. 00:26:38
So orphosizes down to 2 1/2 inches, contingent upon. 00:26:44
All of the other concerns being. 00:26:48
Addressed OK. 00:26:50
I'll second that. 00:26:54
All in favor. 00:26:56
Aye. 00:26:58
Thank you very much. 00:27:00
Appreciate it. 00:27:02
OK. 00:27:06
Any public comment? 00:27:10
Motion to adjourn. 00:27:13
Motion to adjourn carried. 00:27:14