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| Issue. | 00:00:01 | |
| Right, I would like to. | 00:00:03 | |
| Call to order. | 00:00:05 | |
| The public hearing. | 00:00:07 | |
| On the matter of the. | 00:00:09 | |
| Open Door youth shelter. | 00:00:13 | |
| This was a matter that we appreciate. | 00:00:15 | |
| After our last Commissioners meeting. | 00:00:20 | |
| Where there was a vote to dissolve the interlocal agreement. | 00:00:22 | |
| Between the Floyd County Commissioner. | 00:00:27 | |
| County employees and the. | 00:00:29 | |
| Open Door youth shelter. | 00:00:31 | |
| And we have. | 00:00:32 | |
| Some information to share, which would be fine, but let's say the Pledge of Allegiance first. | 00:00:35 | |
| I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States. | 00:00:41 | |
| United States of America. | 00:00:43 | |
| And to the Republic for which it stands. | 00:00:45 | |
| One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:48 | |
| Alright, this 2 is joint meeting and. | 00:00:54 | |
| And, umm. | 00:00:56 | |
| I don't know if we need a formal roll call. | 00:00:58 | |
| Public hearing to move It's a joint public hearing, if you will, on the matter with the council and the. | 00:01:00 | |
| Commissioners present. We do have a majority or quorum of both bodies. | 00:01:06 | |
| And. | 00:01:10 | |
| Our lead council tonight is going to be Chris Fox again. Mr. Fox has a family matter that he's attending to Mr. Steve Langman | 00:01:12 | |
| here. | 00:01:16 | |
| Representing the Council. | 00:01:20 | |
| We opened up or at some point during the last Commissioners meeting with regards to this, there were some question as to whether | 00:01:23 | |
| or not. | 00:01:26 | |
| There was in fact an interlocal agreement between the two parties and that. | 00:01:30 | |
| Is what we predicated some of our decisions on. | 00:01:33 | |
| And so. | 00:01:37 | |
| We're honored to have. | 00:01:40 | |
| Circuit Court Judge Brown here tonight to discuss. | 00:01:41 | |
| His investigation into that matter and. | 00:01:45 | |
| Believe you have some common scores. | 00:01:47 | |
| Good afternoon everyone. Always appreciate having the opportunity to appear before the Commissioners and the Council. | 00:01:59 | |
| I'm going to be glad to provide everyone with an update on the status of Open Door Youth Shelter and I'm not here to make any ask | 00:02:05 | |
| today. | 00:02:08 | |
| There's been much uncertainty and confusion swirling around this topic, and I think we'll be able to put a little bit of that to | 00:02:12 | |
| rest. | 00:02:15 | |
| Issues surrounding the shelter first appeared. The first question I asked was, legally speaking, what is the shelter? | 00:02:17 | |
| And we know it exists. It's just right over there. | 00:02:23 | |
| But you know, what is it? On one hand, you have the shelter itself and you have the Youth Services Bureau. You have the Friends of | 00:02:26 | |
| Open Door, which is the nonprofit. So the matter readily lends itself to a little bit of confusion. | 00:02:31 | |
| For decades, the legal status of the shelter has been unclear. | 00:02:38 | |
| Is a part of the court. | 00:02:41 | |
| Is it part of the county? | 00:02:42 | |
| Is an independent agency. | 00:02:43 | |
| Is it some combination of the above, or is it something else altogether? | 00:02:45 | |
| Well, after a thorough investigation, a review of documentation and correspondence to and from the State Board of Accounts. | 00:02:49 | |
| In consultation with the Office of General Counsel for the Indiana Supreme Court. | 00:02:55 | |
| It has been made clear to me that the shelter was created by Floyd Circuit Court Judge and released back in 1982. | 00:02:59 | |
| Under Title 31, Article 31, Chapter 8 of Indiana Code. | 00:03:05 | |
| And as such, the shelter was and remains under the direction and control of the Floyd Circuit Court. | 00:03:09 | |
| I believe it would best be termed as a quasi governmental agency, something like our Floyd County community corrections. | 00:03:15 | |
| So this brings me to the Interlocal agreement. | 00:03:21 | |
| That's become the focus of so much attention and why we're here today. | 00:03:23 | |
| I want to be clear that neither the office of the Floyd Circuit Court and that's including my predecessor whom I spoke with. | 00:03:27 | |
| Board of Commissioners or the shelters in possession of a signed copy of that 2010 year local agreement bearing a signature. | 00:03:32 | |
| From either the court. | 00:03:38 | |
| Courts agent or the shelter? | 00:03:39 | |
| As such, it's my belief that lacking the authorization of the court, there is no Interlocal. | 00:03:41 | |
| You can't have an agreement unless you have all the parties too. It's signed. | 00:03:47 | |
| Now, Despite that and in good faith, the Board of Commissioners have never wavered from intending to honor that agreement. | 00:03:50 | |
| Furthermore, throughout my many conversations with the commissioners, it was made clear that they have never intended or desired | 00:03:56 | |
| for Floyd County to be without a youth shelter. | 00:04:00 | |
| If the shelter is not to remain here in Pineview, the commissioners are both intended and indicated they wish to help facilitate | 00:04:04 | |
| the shelter's relocation. | 00:04:08 | |
| So as it's become clear that the interlocal agreement does not exist, the question then becomes where does this put us going | 00:04:12 | |
| forward? | 00:04:15 | |
| Well, that answer is not yet set in stone, but I'm confident based upon many conversations that have been had together we will | 00:04:18 | |
| find a solution to both complies with the law and which serves the need of the youth of our community. | 00:04:23 | |
| So to that effect and by statute, I will be convening an Advisory Board of elected officials and stakeholders in the very near | 00:04:29 | |
| future. | 00:04:32 | |
| To determine and explore what this can, should and will look like, that Advisory Board will include a member of commissioners and | 00:04:36 | |
| member of the council. | 00:04:39 | |
| I will also be completing A thorough review of operations to better determine what the structure, objectives and needs of the | 00:04:43 | |
| shelter are. | 00:04:46 | |
| As this process unfolds, the Board of Commissioners are in agreement that the shelter will remain here at Pineview until we can | 00:04:50 | |
| determine what the next steps are. | 00:04:53 | |
| I know that myself, Miss Pesarosi and all of those involved with Open Door are grateful for that. | 00:04:58 | |
| Now lastly is the shelter is under the purview of the Circuit Court, all communications their official statements must on behalf | 00:05:02 | |
| of Open Door have to come through our office. | 00:05:07 | |
| Now, if anyone has any questions, I'm happy to try to answer them now, or you're more than welcome of course to reach out to me at | 00:05:11 | |
| any time. | 00:05:14 | |
| So go ahead, I'll and I'll start it off, Your Honor. | 00:05:20 | |
| It is, yeah. | 00:05:27 | |
| Is an era local needed to move forward? | 00:05:30 | |
| Is an air local needed to move forward? | 00:05:33 | |
| I believe so. I believe that based on what's been explained to me is the Circuit Court has autonomy to enter into those | 00:05:35 | |
| agreements. So if you need an interlocal, I think we can talk about that and we can sit down and construct one if we want. I don't | 00:05:39 | |
| know that it's necessary though. | 00:05:44 | |
| But that's something you can sit down and talk about. | 00:05:48 | |
| Does Open Door have the authority to enter into any new contracts? | 00:05:52 | |
| No, it's only the court that has that authority. Unless I bestow or. | 00:05:55 | |
| View that authority upon them but as of now there's no authority until we get sit down and community Advisory Board and. | 00:05:59 | |
| Look at where everything is at. Everything has to come through. | 00:06:06 | |
| Just for definitions, the Floyd. | 00:06:10 | |
| Or is you and or the magistrate or just. | 00:06:13 | |
| Judge Brown. | 00:06:16 | |
| I am simply a steward of the office for the time being, but yes. | 00:06:17 | |
| I am. | 00:06:22 | |
| Because the magistrate is the magistrate of the circuit and Superior Court, so it's just the Floyd circuit. So the statute reads | 00:06:24 | |
| that it's the juvenile court and Floyd County, it's the juvenile court is the. | 00:06:28 | |
| Workout so and. | 00:06:33 | |
| The lease was ensconced within the interlocal agreement that. | 00:06:36 | |
| Does not exist. | 00:06:40 | |
| Correct, that is fair to say the police does not exist. | 00:06:41 | |
| But I think we've already discussed the obligations under 31318. So I think that kind of. | 00:06:44 | |
| Right. That's why I think I look forward to gaining clarity with that. I mean, I think Commissioner standpoint, everything you | 00:06:49 | |
| said is true and valid from. | 00:06:52 | |
| Beginning to now and I think. | 00:06:57 | |
| Conversation would have probably flowed differently, and they're not. | 00:06:58 | |
| With the question on the interlocal agreements validity. | 00:07:02 | |
| That we brought into question at the last meeting, but anyway, I'm glad to have. | 00:07:06 | |
| Finality on that? | 00:07:09 | |
| A state only on my behalf because I'm only one of the three commissioners, but I believe it is still our intent. | 00:07:12 | |
| To move our government offices from the Pineview Building at some point and whether or not. | 00:07:18 | |
| We can find a new owner that would. | 00:07:22 | |
| Accommodate. | 00:07:24 | |
| The youth shelter. | 00:07:25 | |
| It's already a new location for the youth Shelter would be our two goals then. | 00:07:28 | |
| The 2GO hand in hand in hand, but yet they're not mutually exclusive, so we might find an owner who's willing to accommodate that. | 00:07:33 | |
| We might not, but either way. | 00:07:40 | |
| We acknowledge the. | 00:07:42 | |
| The circuit courts authority over. | 00:07:45 | |
| Watching out for us with regards to our duties as outlined in those. | 00:07:48 | |
| Precepts from 1982. | 00:07:54 | |
| 1982 And I think from our conversations, I believe the statute probably would have originated. | 00:07:56 | |
| Sometime right before, right then because of the ability for that statute for a youth shelter we created. Yeah. And what year was | 00:08:01 | |
| the interlocal agreement? | 00:08:05 | |
| The one that you because it was 2010. The one they go, I don't know. And that's the thing I've I've went through the office, I've | 00:08:09 | |
| tried to find if there's anything that exists. I'm still waiting to hear back from State Board of accounts to get a complete. | 00:08:14 | |
| I've requested everything they have. | 00:08:19 | |
| Which is probably no small task, and once I have that I'll provide copies to the commissioners and Council so you all see. | 00:08:21 | |
| You all will have complete transparency with everything I'm working. | 00:08:27 | |
| OK, well, I mean. | 00:08:31 | |
| This is what we wanted was some clarity on the issue. That's that's why we've taken on some of these issues that have. | 00:08:32 | |
| Sat uncontested for. | 00:08:38 | |
| A decade and 1/2 in this case, but longer in other cases. Less time in other cases, but. | 00:08:40 | |
| We're we're finding out some things that. | 00:08:46 | |
| Haven't quite been spelled out. | 00:08:49 | |
| And if they're not transparent to us, how can they be transparent to the public? | 00:08:51 | |
| It's been quite the task trying to go through some of these processes and. | 00:08:55 | |
| Understand how they were. | 00:08:59 | |
| Set up versus. | 00:09:01 | |
| You know, statutorily the way it should have been done at times. | 00:09:02 | |
| But the only other question that I would have right now is do you have any kind of indication or a timeline of what? | 00:09:06 | |
| This looks like to get some more information so we can. | 00:09:12 | |
| Before, because at the end of the day, I do think that. | 00:09:15 | |
| You know, we, we want to try. | 00:09:17 | |
| Find a new owner for this building at some point, so and. | 00:09:19 | |
| But at the same time, you know, I want to make sure the kids are. | 00:09:23 | |
| Are taken care of, but at the same time we got to. | 00:09:26 | |
| We had some planes that we got to figure out. | 00:09:28 | |
| I'm going to give you the law school answer. Maybe, I don't know. | 00:09:31 | |
| I mean, it depends. It really is. I mean, as we get into this process, there's a lot, you know, as we found out, sometimes asking | 00:09:34 | |
| questions leads to more questions and that's where we got to where we're at. | 00:09:39 | |
| I think we're in a good spot though. | 00:09:44 | |
| I think we really have a nice clear directive. | 00:09:46 | |
| Of obligations, where we're at and how we're going to navigate this moving forward. | 00:09:48 | |
| So I see. | 00:09:52 | |
| A representative from the Tribune there. So I want to make sure that. | 00:09:54 | |
| You realize that this means that the February deadline is no longer in existence. | 00:09:57 | |
| That's correct. So again, the absence of an interlocal agreement basically vacates. | 00:10:03 | |
| The proceedings of our last Commissioners being with regards to the establishment of a timeline. | 00:10:08 | |
| And we look forward to working with all parties. | 00:10:13 | |
| For inamicable solution. | 00:10:15 | |
| Likewise, and I think once we can meet the Advisory Board that will help give us a nice direction. | 00:10:17 | |
| About what the needs are. | 00:10:22 | |
| Where we need to move forward. | 00:10:23 | |
| This now. | 00:10:25 | |
| Any other comment or question I will just make a statement. | 00:10:28 | |
| I guess. | 00:10:32 | |
| I served on the board for a bit. | 00:10:35 | |
| Shelter. They do a lot of other things other than just the shelter. They have a lot of programs. | 00:10:37 | |
| I totally agree with that. | 00:10:42 | |
| But I would just. | 00:10:43 | |
| Maybe put my name on the line. I commend the commissioners. | 00:10:45 | |
| For doing what they did. | 00:10:49 | |
| This is as clear as I've been since I've been sitting on this council. | 00:10:51 | |
| Thank you, Judge Brown, to make it clear what's expected, what's not. | 00:10:55 | |
| And I think going forward, it's going to be a really good resolution. | 00:10:59 | |
| I appreciate that and I agree. I think we've all got great relationships. We'll sit down and talk and we're going to figure out | 00:11:03 | |
| what this is going to look like. | 00:11:06 | |
| It's been confusing for a long time. | 00:11:09 | |
| To a lot of people, but we're going to clear that up so. | 00:11:11 | |
| Your Honor, would you be willing to take questions from the public, if any? | 00:11:15 | |
| Sure. | 00:11:19 | |
| Opportunities to question the judge. | 00:11:24 | |
| OK. | 00:11:31 | |
| Yeah, I think we'll actually allow for public comment. | 00:11:33 | |
| I didn't want, I didn't want to don't want acknowledge that there's been a lot of work done this. | 00:11:38 | |
| And that a lot of movement and help and. | 00:11:42 | |
| Everything I can on my. | 00:11:46 | |
| It on my part too. | 00:11:48 | |
| Up try to get a good solution. | 00:11:51 | |
| I've been in a lot of meetings so. | 00:11:55 | |
| Well, good. We appreciate your efforts on this. | 00:11:59 | |
| And again. | 00:12:01 | |
| All the messy at the beginning, but he. | 00:12:03 | |
| So that's what you have to do, RIP band aids off sometimes. | 00:12:06 | |
| Yeah. | 00:12:10 | |
| Thank you. Thank you. Any other public comment? | 00:12:14 | |
| All right. Well, we appreciate your time here tonight. | 00:12:21 | |
| And. | 00:12:24 | |
| Questions or comments from the board? | 00:12:25 | |
| Nothing is very clear. | 00:12:27 | |
| Thanks, Judge. | 00:12:30 | |
| All right. Thank you. Any final statements? | 00:12:31 | |
| Otherwise open for a motion to adjourn this public hearing. | 00:12:36 | |
| Someone second. | 00:12:40 | |
| All in favor, aye? | 00:12:42 |
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| Issue. | 00:00:01 | |
| Right, I would like to. | 00:00:03 | |
| Call to order. | 00:00:05 | |
| The public hearing. | 00:00:07 | |
| On the matter of the. | 00:00:09 | |
| Open Door youth shelter. | 00:00:13 | |
| This was a matter that we appreciate. | 00:00:15 | |
| After our last Commissioners meeting. | 00:00:20 | |
| Where there was a vote to dissolve the interlocal agreement. | 00:00:22 | |
| Between the Floyd County Commissioner. | 00:00:27 | |
| County employees and the. | 00:00:29 | |
| Open Door youth shelter. | 00:00:31 | |
| And we have. | 00:00:32 | |
| Some information to share, which would be fine, but let's say the Pledge of Allegiance first. | 00:00:35 | |
| I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States. | 00:00:41 | |
| United States of America. | 00:00:43 | |
| And to the Republic for which it stands. | 00:00:45 | |
| One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:48 | |
| Alright, this 2 is joint meeting and. | 00:00:54 | |
| And, umm. | 00:00:56 | |
| I don't know if we need a formal roll call. | 00:00:58 | |
| Public hearing to move It's a joint public hearing, if you will, on the matter with the council and the. | 00:01:00 | |
| Commissioners present. We do have a majority or quorum of both bodies. | 00:01:06 | |
| And. | 00:01:10 | |
| Our lead council tonight is going to be Chris Fox again. Mr. Fox has a family matter that he's attending to Mr. Steve Langman | 00:01:12 | |
| here. | 00:01:16 | |
| Representing the Council. | 00:01:20 | |
| We opened up or at some point during the last Commissioners meeting with regards to this, there were some question as to whether | 00:01:23 | |
| or not. | 00:01:26 | |
| There was in fact an interlocal agreement between the two parties and that. | 00:01:30 | |
| Is what we predicated some of our decisions on. | 00:01:33 | |
| And so. | 00:01:37 | |
| We're honored to have. | 00:01:40 | |
| Circuit Court Judge Brown here tonight to discuss. | 00:01:41 | |
| His investigation into that matter and. | 00:01:45 | |
| Believe you have some common scores. | 00:01:47 | |
| Good afternoon everyone. Always appreciate having the opportunity to appear before the Commissioners and the Council. | 00:01:59 | |
| I'm going to be glad to provide everyone with an update on the status of Open Door Youth Shelter and I'm not here to make any ask | 00:02:05 | |
| today. | 00:02:08 | |
| There's been much uncertainty and confusion swirling around this topic, and I think we'll be able to put a little bit of that to | 00:02:12 | |
| rest. | 00:02:15 | |
| Issues surrounding the shelter first appeared. The first question I asked was, legally speaking, what is the shelter? | 00:02:17 | |
| And we know it exists. It's just right over there. | 00:02:23 | |
| But you know, what is it? On one hand, you have the shelter itself and you have the Youth Services Bureau. You have the Friends of | 00:02:26 | |
| Open Door, which is the nonprofit. So the matter readily lends itself to a little bit of confusion. | 00:02:31 | |
| For decades, the legal status of the shelter has been unclear. | 00:02:38 | |
| Is a part of the court. | 00:02:41 | |
| Is it part of the county? | 00:02:42 | |
| Is an independent agency. | 00:02:43 | |
| Is it some combination of the above, or is it something else altogether? | 00:02:45 | |
| Well, after a thorough investigation, a review of documentation and correspondence to and from the State Board of Accounts. | 00:02:49 | |
| In consultation with the Office of General Counsel for the Indiana Supreme Court. | 00:02:55 | |
| It has been made clear to me that the shelter was created by Floyd Circuit Court Judge and released back in 1982. | 00:02:59 | |
| Under Title 31, Article 31, Chapter 8 of Indiana Code. | 00:03:05 | |
| And as such, the shelter was and remains under the direction and control of the Floyd Circuit Court. | 00:03:09 | |
| I believe it would best be termed as a quasi governmental agency, something like our Floyd County community corrections. | 00:03:15 | |
| So this brings me to the Interlocal agreement. | 00:03:21 | |
| That's become the focus of so much attention and why we're here today. | 00:03:23 | |
| I want to be clear that neither the office of the Floyd Circuit Court and that's including my predecessor whom I spoke with. | 00:03:27 | |
| Board of Commissioners or the shelters in possession of a signed copy of that 2010 year local agreement bearing a signature. | 00:03:32 | |
| From either the court. | 00:03:38 | |
| Courts agent or the shelter? | 00:03:39 | |
| As such, it's my belief that lacking the authorization of the court, there is no Interlocal. | 00:03:41 | |
| You can't have an agreement unless you have all the parties too. It's signed. | 00:03:47 | |
| Now, Despite that and in good faith, the Board of Commissioners have never wavered from intending to honor that agreement. | 00:03:50 | |
| Furthermore, throughout my many conversations with the commissioners, it was made clear that they have never intended or desired | 00:03:56 | |
| for Floyd County to be without a youth shelter. | 00:04:00 | |
| If the shelter is not to remain here in Pineview, the commissioners are both intended and indicated they wish to help facilitate | 00:04:04 | |
| the shelter's relocation. | 00:04:08 | |
| So as it's become clear that the interlocal agreement does not exist, the question then becomes where does this put us going | 00:04:12 | |
| forward? | 00:04:15 | |
| Well, that answer is not yet set in stone, but I'm confident based upon many conversations that have been had together we will | 00:04:18 | |
| find a solution to both complies with the law and which serves the need of the youth of our community. | 00:04:23 | |
| So to that effect and by statute, I will be convening an Advisory Board of elected officials and stakeholders in the very near | 00:04:29 | |
| future. | 00:04:32 | |
| To determine and explore what this can, should and will look like, that Advisory Board will include a member of commissioners and | 00:04:36 | |
| member of the council. | 00:04:39 | |
| I will also be completing A thorough review of operations to better determine what the structure, objectives and needs of the | 00:04:43 | |
| shelter are. | 00:04:46 | |
| As this process unfolds, the Board of Commissioners are in agreement that the shelter will remain here at Pineview until we can | 00:04:50 | |
| determine what the next steps are. | 00:04:53 | |
| I know that myself, Miss Pesarosi and all of those involved with Open Door are grateful for that. | 00:04:58 | |
| Now lastly is the shelter is under the purview of the Circuit Court, all communications their official statements must on behalf | 00:05:02 | |
| of Open Door have to come through our office. | 00:05:07 | |
| Now, if anyone has any questions, I'm happy to try to answer them now, or you're more than welcome of course to reach out to me at | 00:05:11 | |
| any time. | 00:05:14 | |
| So go ahead, I'll and I'll start it off, Your Honor. | 00:05:20 | |
| It is, yeah. | 00:05:27 | |
| Is an era local needed to move forward? | 00:05:30 | |
| Is an air local needed to move forward? | 00:05:33 | |
| I believe so. I believe that based on what's been explained to me is the Circuit Court has autonomy to enter into those | 00:05:35 | |
| agreements. So if you need an interlocal, I think we can talk about that and we can sit down and construct one if we want. I don't | 00:05:39 | |
| know that it's necessary though. | 00:05:44 | |
| But that's something you can sit down and talk about. | 00:05:48 | |
| Does Open Door have the authority to enter into any new contracts? | 00:05:52 | |
| No, it's only the court that has that authority. Unless I bestow or. | 00:05:55 | |
| View that authority upon them but as of now there's no authority until we get sit down and community Advisory Board and. | 00:05:59 | |
| Look at where everything is at. Everything has to come through. | 00:06:06 | |
| Just for definitions, the Floyd. | 00:06:10 | |
| Or is you and or the magistrate or just. | 00:06:13 | |
| Judge Brown. | 00:06:16 | |
| I am simply a steward of the office for the time being, but yes. | 00:06:17 | |
| I am. | 00:06:22 | |
| Because the magistrate is the magistrate of the circuit and Superior Court, so it's just the Floyd circuit. So the statute reads | 00:06:24 | |
| that it's the juvenile court and Floyd County, it's the juvenile court is the. | 00:06:28 | |
| Workout so and. | 00:06:33 | |
| The lease was ensconced within the interlocal agreement that. | 00:06:36 | |
| Does not exist. | 00:06:40 | |
| Correct, that is fair to say the police does not exist. | 00:06:41 | |
| But I think we've already discussed the obligations under 31318. So I think that kind of. | 00:06:44 | |
| Right. That's why I think I look forward to gaining clarity with that. I mean, I think Commissioner standpoint, everything you | 00:06:49 | |
| said is true and valid from. | 00:06:52 | |
| Beginning to now and I think. | 00:06:57 | |
| Conversation would have probably flowed differently, and they're not. | 00:06:58 | |
| With the question on the interlocal agreements validity. | 00:07:02 | |
| That we brought into question at the last meeting, but anyway, I'm glad to have. | 00:07:06 | |
| Finality on that? | 00:07:09 | |
| A state only on my behalf because I'm only one of the three commissioners, but I believe it is still our intent. | 00:07:12 | |
| To move our government offices from the Pineview Building at some point and whether or not. | 00:07:18 | |
| We can find a new owner that would. | 00:07:22 | |
| Accommodate. | 00:07:24 | |
| The youth shelter. | 00:07:25 | |
| It's already a new location for the youth Shelter would be our two goals then. | 00:07:28 | |
| The 2GO hand in hand in hand, but yet they're not mutually exclusive, so we might find an owner who's willing to accommodate that. | 00:07:33 | |
| We might not, but either way. | 00:07:40 | |
| We acknowledge the. | 00:07:42 | |
| The circuit courts authority over. | 00:07:45 | |
| Watching out for us with regards to our duties as outlined in those. | 00:07:48 | |
| Precepts from 1982. | 00:07:54 | |
| 1982 And I think from our conversations, I believe the statute probably would have originated. | 00:07:56 | |
| Sometime right before, right then because of the ability for that statute for a youth shelter we created. Yeah. And what year was | 00:08:01 | |
| the interlocal agreement? | 00:08:05 | |
| The one that you because it was 2010. The one they go, I don't know. And that's the thing I've I've went through the office, I've | 00:08:09 | |
| tried to find if there's anything that exists. I'm still waiting to hear back from State Board of accounts to get a complete. | 00:08:14 | |
| I've requested everything they have. | 00:08:19 | |
| Which is probably no small task, and once I have that I'll provide copies to the commissioners and Council so you all see. | 00:08:21 | |
| You all will have complete transparency with everything I'm working. | 00:08:27 | |
| OK, well, I mean. | 00:08:31 | |
| This is what we wanted was some clarity on the issue. That's that's why we've taken on some of these issues that have. | 00:08:32 | |
| Sat uncontested for. | 00:08:38 | |
| A decade and 1/2 in this case, but longer in other cases. Less time in other cases, but. | 00:08:40 | |
| We're we're finding out some things that. | 00:08:46 | |
| Haven't quite been spelled out. | 00:08:49 | |
| And if they're not transparent to us, how can they be transparent to the public? | 00:08:51 | |
| It's been quite the task trying to go through some of these processes and. | 00:08:55 | |
| Understand how they were. | 00:08:59 | |
| Set up versus. | 00:09:01 | |
| You know, statutorily the way it should have been done at times. | 00:09:02 | |
| But the only other question that I would have right now is do you have any kind of indication or a timeline of what? | 00:09:06 | |
| This looks like to get some more information so we can. | 00:09:12 | |
| Before, because at the end of the day, I do think that. | 00:09:15 | |
| You know, we, we want to try. | 00:09:17 | |
| Find a new owner for this building at some point, so and. | 00:09:19 | |
| But at the same time, you know, I want to make sure the kids are. | 00:09:23 | |
| Are taken care of, but at the same time we got to. | 00:09:26 | |
| We had some planes that we got to figure out. | 00:09:28 | |
| I'm going to give you the law school answer. Maybe, I don't know. | 00:09:31 | |
| I mean, it depends. It really is. I mean, as we get into this process, there's a lot, you know, as we found out, sometimes asking | 00:09:34 | |
| questions leads to more questions and that's where we got to where we're at. | 00:09:39 | |
| I think we're in a good spot though. | 00:09:44 | |
| I think we really have a nice clear directive. | 00:09:46 | |
| Of obligations, where we're at and how we're going to navigate this moving forward. | 00:09:48 | |
| So I see. | 00:09:52 | |
| A representative from the Tribune there. So I want to make sure that. | 00:09:54 | |
| You realize that this means that the February deadline is no longer in existence. | 00:09:57 | |
| That's correct. So again, the absence of an interlocal agreement basically vacates. | 00:10:03 | |
| The proceedings of our last Commissioners being with regards to the establishment of a timeline. | 00:10:08 | |
| And we look forward to working with all parties. | 00:10:13 | |
| For inamicable solution. | 00:10:15 | |
| Likewise, and I think once we can meet the Advisory Board that will help give us a nice direction. | 00:10:17 | |
| About what the needs are. | 00:10:22 | |
| Where we need to move forward. | 00:10:23 | |
| This now. | 00:10:25 | |
| Any other comment or question I will just make a statement. | 00:10:28 | |
| I guess. | 00:10:32 | |
| I served on the board for a bit. | 00:10:35 | |
| Shelter. They do a lot of other things other than just the shelter. They have a lot of programs. | 00:10:37 | |
| I totally agree with that. | 00:10:42 | |
| But I would just. | 00:10:43 | |
| Maybe put my name on the line. I commend the commissioners. | 00:10:45 | |
| For doing what they did. | 00:10:49 | |
| This is as clear as I've been since I've been sitting on this council. | 00:10:51 | |
| Thank you, Judge Brown, to make it clear what's expected, what's not. | 00:10:55 | |
| And I think going forward, it's going to be a really good resolution. | 00:10:59 | |
| I appreciate that and I agree. I think we've all got great relationships. We'll sit down and talk and we're going to figure out | 00:11:03 | |
| what this is going to look like. | 00:11:06 | |
| It's been confusing for a long time. | 00:11:09 | |
| To a lot of people, but we're going to clear that up so. | 00:11:11 | |
| Your Honor, would you be willing to take questions from the public, if any? | 00:11:15 | |
| Sure. | 00:11:19 | |
| Opportunities to question the judge. | 00:11:24 | |
| OK. | 00:11:31 | |
| Yeah, I think we'll actually allow for public comment. | 00:11:33 | |
| I didn't want, I didn't want to don't want acknowledge that there's been a lot of work done this. | 00:11:38 | |
| And that a lot of movement and help and. | 00:11:42 | |
| Everything I can on my. | 00:11:46 | |
| It on my part too. | 00:11:48 | |
| Up try to get a good solution. | 00:11:51 | |
| I've been in a lot of meetings so. | 00:11:55 | |
| Well, good. We appreciate your efforts on this. | 00:11:59 | |
| And again. | 00:12:01 | |
| All the messy at the beginning, but he. | 00:12:03 | |
| So that's what you have to do, RIP band aids off sometimes. | 00:12:06 | |
| Yeah. | 00:12:10 | |
| Thank you. Thank you. Any other public comment? | 00:12:14 | |
| All right. Well, we appreciate your time here tonight. | 00:12:21 | |
| And. | 00:12:24 | |
| Questions or comments from the board? | 00:12:25 | |
| Nothing is very clear. | 00:12:27 | |
| Thanks, Judge. | 00:12:30 | |
| All right. Thank you. Any final statements? | 00:12:31 | |
| Otherwise open for a motion to adjourn this public hearing. | 00:12:36 | |
| Someone second. | 00:12:40 | |
| All in favor, aye? | 00:12:42 |