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At this time, I'd like to call to order the February 10th the Floyd County Planning Commission. At this time, we'd like to stand 00:00:13
and honor our flag, please. 00:00:17
United States of America. 00:00:23
And to Republic, for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:26
OK, at this time I'd like to have a roll call. 00:00:36
Here. 00:00:39
Present. 00:00:44
Yeah. 00:00:46
Here. 00:00:47
Here. 00:00:50
Here. 00:00:51
Here. 00:00:53
Alrighty, one shorter board member. That's eight of us, correct? 00:00:55
All right. 00:00:58
At this time. 00:01:01
We'd like to have the minutes of the December. 00:01:03
Fruit. I'm going to take a look at those and make a motion. 00:01:07
I make a motion that we approve the December Planning Commission. 00:01:15
Minutes. All right. Thank you. I have a. 00:01:18
Motion any second. 00:01:21
Awesome. Go ahead. 00:01:24
I got a second, but John any. 00:01:25
Conversation. 00:01:27
Discussion. 00:01:29
At that time, we take a motion all in favor. 00:01:30
Aye, those opposed likewise. Thank you. Approved. Thank you. 00:01:33
All righty. We have no old business. Is that correct, Nick? 00:01:36
OK, this time we'd like to agenda number item number one, we have have to have the election of officers. 00:01:42
And at this time, we need some recommendation emotions. 00:01:49
I nominate Mr. Hunter for the president. 00:01:54
All right, we got a motion for president. We need a second. 00:01:57
Second. All right, we've got a second all in favor. 00:02:00
Aye, those opposed likewise. Thank you. 00:02:03
All right, now we need somebody for Vice President. 00:02:06
Needed somebody to. 00:02:09
Volunteer piece. 00:02:11
For a motion or a motion, there you go. Make somebody make a motion. That'll work. 00:02:16
Frank, are you willing to do it? 00:02:22
Take care. All right, so somebody needs to make a motion for Frank. 00:02:26
I'll make a motion, Frank. 00:02:29
For vice president. 00:02:31
All right, we have a motion a second all any discussion? 00:02:33
All in favor signify by. 00:02:37
Those opposed likewise. All right. Thanks. Thanks a lot. 00:02:39
All right. Next thing is the plant review committee. 00:02:42
Right now I've show that's Larry. 00:02:46
Chris Welch, Gina. 00:02:48
John Brankworth and myself as everybody still willing to serve. 00:02:50
I am OK Larry is John. 00:02:54
Gina and we called Chris and I'm willing to do that. So that takes care of that, OK? 00:02:58
All right. Next Adam is the Adam agenda item number two, FC-01. 00:03:03
Hold on. So you guys need to vote on that. 00:03:08
On which someone on the plant review, so I'm sorry, we need a vote on the plant review. So I need a motion to accept those 5 00:03:10
members. 00:03:13
Make a motion. All right, we have a motion. I need a second. 00:03:18
All right, all in favor signify by. 00:03:22
Likewise opposed. Thank you all right now. 00:03:24
All right. Now we're going to go to agenda item number 2. 00:03:29
FC-01-25-01, Administrative Subdivision. 00:03:32
Nick will give us his staff report. 00:03:37
This is an. 00:03:40
Minor subdivision application for four lot subdivision. The petitioner is ASB LLC. The zoning district is agricultural 00:03:41
residential. 00:03:45
They are requesting A4 lot subdivision with frontage on Nippleton Road. 00:03:50
The property currently has a home and two barns on it. 00:03:54
There is an identified floodway and floodway fringe on the South and. 00:03:58
Side of the property. 00:04:01
The plaque committee for this was cancelled due to a lack of quorum. 00:04:03
Staff comments is that the plat as submitted does comply with lot size standards. Lots are minimum of two acres with 100 foot. 00:04:07
Road frontage plate I submitted does comply with streets. 00:04:15
Standards There are no new streets provided. The plat as submitted does comply with easement standards with conditions. 00:04:19
Stated below, the driveway easements are needed. 00:04:25
For every two lots, one driveway easement is required. 00:04:30
Unless that requirement is waived by the. 00:04:34
Flat as submitted does comply with the block standards. There are no blocks proposed. 00:04:38
The plat as submitted does provide St. improvements as required. Again, no streets proposed. 00:04:44
The plat, as submitted does comply with Water Supply Standards Board and tri-county Regional Water has provided a service letter 00:04:51
for the new lots. 00:04:55
3 inch inch line is available for service. 00:04:59
This line is not adequate to provide Fire Protection. 00:05:02
The plot as submitted is suitable for sewage and wastewater containment because they have soil provided soil testing. 00:05:07
And has been completed by the Floyd County Health Department. 00:05:14
Reviewed in by the Floyd County Health Department and provided septic system requirements for suitable systems. 00:05:19
Staff Recommendations. 00:05:26
Would be to require joint driveways. 00:05:28
In easements to be added to the plat for lots. 00:05:31
I believe we said it was one and two, unless that is waived by the Planning Commission. 00:05:37
Add note on. 00:05:42
Flat that prior to development, the Owner shall consult with Highlander Fire Protection District. 00:05:44
On driveway placement. 00:05:50
All right. That's our staff reporting by having questions for Nick at this time on the board. 00:05:53
None. All righty. Thank you, Nick. 00:06:01
OK, at this time we'd like to call the applicant to come. 00:06:04
Forward and presenter. 00:06:06
Good evening. State your name and address. Yes, Sir. Brad Benson with ASB 720 Rolling Creek. 00:06:10
Drive the Ste. 106 in New Albany. 00:06:16
I know you all have blacks in your file there, but I've got a couple bigger ones if anyone would like. 00:06:19
You want to walk on. 00:06:24
Not a problem. 00:06:25
Yes, please. 00:06:29
So the staff report pretty much. 00:06:41
Pretty clear on what it is. It's a 20 acre parcel located at 688. 00:06:44
0 Mapleton Rd. 00:06:48
It is a R. 00:06:50
The tracks are. 00:06:51
For Track 1 is five acres, Track 2 is five acres, Track 3 is 2 acres. 00:06:53
Track 3 is the one with the house on it that will remain. 00:06:59
Track 4 is the 8 acre parcel. 00:07:02
He's correct on the ordinance allows for. 00:07:06
A minimum of two acre lots, so it applies with that. The road frontage is 100 square or 100 feet. 00:07:09
So we could play with that. 00:07:15
One element that he did say that. 00:07:16
It does not meet. 00:07:18
The board has. 00:07:20
So the Commission has the ability to. 00:07:22
Waive the right for an access easement between these lots. 00:07:24
We would ask that that be waived for all four parcels. 00:07:28
Track 3 already has a house on it. Our goal with this is that we're not. There's no plans for this right now. We're going to let 00:07:33
it sit. 00:07:36
May list it and sell it and let somebody out. 00:07:40
Build a house on it. We are home builder so hopefully it's us. 00:07:42
We may end up holding. 00:07:45
Family member, but right now there's no plans. 00:07:47
So with these big, Big Lots, we're hoping that you know you're. 00:07:51
State style houses big, lots big. 00:07:55
You know, big entrance in there. 00:07:58
If the Commission were to require a. 00:08:00
The access easement. 00:08:03
I would ask that it only be on. 00:08:05
Lots 1 and 2. 00:08:07
Those are the two bigger ones on the. 00:08:09
If you're looking at the fly on the bottom side. 00:08:11
It's only because lot 3 already has a drive. 00:08:14
Lot 4 would then be a separate drive as well. 00:08:17
If that is not an option and Commission would require the. 00:08:21
Access easements on all of them. 00:08:26
Then I would ask that the approval tonight be conditioned upon us supplying those. 00:08:28
I believe it's 50 feet wide along those property lines. 00:08:33
And we'll submit that proper paperwork. 00:08:37
For Nick for approval. 00:08:39
So just to clarify real quick on the excess easements. 00:08:40
Are they are they not using the road frontage to access their properties or will they need to go across the other tracks? No they 00:08:46
will. They all have proper Rd. frontage along Naples and road. So our hope would be that we would have drives off of Napleton. 00:08:52
That would not be able to. 00:08:58
Access easement will not be needed. 00:09:00
So you still got these the site provisions for one for #1 Yes, there is. So the minimum is 100 feet and. 00:09:04
There's 100 on all. 00:09:13
Yeah. 00:09:18
Fall from there and Associates, 301 E Chestnut St. Court in Indiana. 00:09:21
Your administrative subdivision requirements have have a have a requirement for joint driveways for every two lots. That's what 00:09:24
Mr. Benson is describing. 00:09:28
I understand the limit the need is to limit access to county roads. 00:09:34
But when you have Big Lots like this, especially one that has an existing House of drive, it makes it difficult to Co locate those 00:09:38
drives. 00:09:42
And even though the ordinance requires it, it still creates a maintenance problem. 00:09:46
Because you have two homeowners fighting over. 00:09:49
Who's going to maintain that joint driveway? 00:09:51
It's it's in my opinion to everyone's best interest to separate those travelers. 00:09:53
OK. Any other questions? 00:10:00
None. 00:10:05
All right. At this time, we'd like to open up to anybody that like to speak in favor of this project. 00:10:06
Come forward now. State your name and your address for the record. 00:10:13
See that there's none stepping forward. 00:10:19
Now we open up to those who want to oppose. Are you come in favor, Sir? 00:10:21
OK, OK. Well. 00:10:26
Yeah, anybody wants coming against it, coming forward. 00:10:28
State your name and your address for the record please. 00:10:31
James White. 00:10:38
Everybody got that gotcha. 00:10:39
OK, I live at 314 Tuscany Drive. 00:10:41
And if they open all that up there and that's going to open our street up to. 00:10:44
Them coming more traffic down through there, right? 00:10:50
Sir, I think you're about the wrong. You're on the wrong project. Sir, this is on Napleton Road. 00:10:53
I'm sorry. 00:10:57
You're in the right church, Wrong Pew. 00:10:59
All right, so. 00:11:05
You he got a jump on you guys. 00:11:09
All right, at this time everybody will speak in opposition. 00:11:13
To the administrative subdivision. 00:11:17
On naval Tarot come forward, state your name and address. 00:11:20
Mike Gatton. I live at 6975 Napleton Rd. 00:11:24
And my property overlooks this property. 00:11:27
And. 00:11:31
The traffic is already bad due to Cutter Smith woodworking. 00:11:32
Huber's all that and to divide this out and put four more houses on there. 00:11:36
Just opens it up for more development and. 00:11:42
There's a second. 00:11:44
Lot that is not involved in this to the left of it and it's going to open that up for more development. 00:11:45
We moved out there to be in the county. I've lived there 23 years. We don't want to be in the city. 00:11:52
The traffic, The busing. 00:11:56
School buses, things like that. 00:11:58
The trucks it's already bad enough we. 00:12:01
Preferred the county to state county. 00:12:03
That's why we're there. 00:12:06
Thank you. 00:12:09
Have some more time for anybody else to come forward. State your name and address for the record. 00:12:14
And take the films. 00:12:20
And I live at 7200 Mableton Rd. 00:12:22
Our property also looks through. 00:12:25
Mr. loops backyard. 00:12:27
Over to this property. 00:12:29
Like he said, the traffic is already so terrible. We have. 00:12:31
Multiple wrecks with semis on. 00:12:35
Our Rd. every year that drive off the roads hit trees. 00:12:37
It is. 00:12:42
So busy. 00:12:43
Adding this is. 00:12:44
Taking away all of our country, all of our farmland. 00:12:46
I I had somebody build a house behind me a couple years ago and I now have no deer in my yard. I mean like there's literally no 00:12:50
wildlife except for comedies. If anybody knows about my coyote issue, but. 00:12:56
There is. 00:13:01
Like nothing coming in our property more because everybody's building and scaring them out and. 00:13:02
That's why we moved there. We moved to begin the country. We have farm animals. 00:13:07
And dogs and. 00:13:11
Horses and goats, and that's what we moved there for and. 00:13:13
I mean you all all moved out there for the same reason. I know where most of you live and you move to those areas for. 00:13:16
That in. 00:13:22
You're turning it around. There's another piece of land. 00:13:23
I know the same person bought on Ableton road and if you all approve this. 00:13:26
It's just gonna turn around and get approved for him as well, and that's. 00:13:30
Down by the cows. 00:13:33
So like, that's our landmarks. We turn at the cows you go to. 00:13:35
This farm and that farm and you're just turning it away. 00:13:39
Everybody asked me every day. 00:13:43
Do you know anybody that has 5 acres for sale? 00:13:44
No, because somebody buys it and puts a whole bunch of houses on it. 00:13:47
That's not what we want. 00:13:51
So just consider that. 00:13:52
Thank you. 00:13:54
Good evening, Troy Durham. 00:14:03
7222 Napleton Rd. 00:14:05
I'm also as a crow flies less than a mile from this development potential development. 00:14:07
I don't chagrin anybody for China. 00:14:12
Exercise their free enterprise and do business as they see fit. They have the freedom to do it. 00:14:14
My two cents as much like these other people who spoke. 00:14:20
It's too crowded on the road. It's too busy. 00:14:24
And uh, uh. 00:14:26
To be frank. 00:14:28
I don't like the discomfort I already have fearing for my. 00:14:29
Home and those within it from vehicle. 00:14:33
Thanks. We've had semis in our front yard. 00:14:36
In the past. 00:14:38
And I just think it's too much on the road. 00:14:41
Too much development. 00:14:43
This would maybe be a domino. 00:14:44
Of continuing the domino effect of what's already happened with the. 00:14:46
Development further out to the county. 00:14:50
I don't wish to see it. 00:14:52
For my $0.02. 00:14:54
And where I lived. 00:14:56
And chose to live. 00:14:57
For rural reasons. 00:14:59
There's something. 00:15:00
Alluring to being out in the country. 00:15:01
And I think that would be spoiled. 00:15:03
Thank you very much. Thank you. 00:15:05
Anybody else? 00:15:08
All right, at this time we get. 00:15:12
Nobody else in opposition. We open the floor back to the petitioner to rebut. 00:15:15
Anything that was discussed. 00:15:19
Thank you. I'll make it short here. The only thing I would like to point out is we are this is administrative flat. 00:15:23
We comply with the ordinance. The only issue would be the access easement. 00:15:29
I said I would ask that you waive that right here because of what we're trying to do with this. 00:15:34
We are not looking to divide this property. It is an AR which is a. 00:15:39
Two acre lot minimum. 00:15:42
So hypothetically we get coming forth with a plat for 9 acres in that zone. 00:15:44
We're not looking to do that. 00:15:49
Worth looking just for four. 00:15:50
They're Big Lots, A2 acre. The smallest one is one with the house on it. They'll remain. 00:15:52
And then the 55 naked SO. 00:15:57
All right. Thank you. 00:15:59
At this point where we looking for a ballot? 00:16:03
I have a ballot. 00:16:07
Subdivision named Ableton Place DACA. 00:16:08
FC 01/25/01. 00:16:11
After careful review, the fact committee finds that one. 00:16:15
Plant as submitted does comply with the lot size standards. 00:16:18
Because the new lights are all a minimum of two acres with more than 100. 00:16:22
Foot of Rd. frontage #2. 00:16:26
The plan has submitted does comply with the street design standards. 00:16:29
Because no streets, no new streets are proposed. 00:16:33
#3. 00:16:36
The plan has submitted does comply with the easement standards because with the conditions below, driveway easements. 00:16:37
Or required. 00:16:43
#4 the plat as submitted does comply with the block standards. 00:16:45
Because there are no blocks required or proposed. 00:16:48
#5 the plat as submitted does. 00:16:52
Provide St. and. 00:16:55
Improvements as required by the ordinance. There are no new streets provided. 00:16:56
Number six, the Plat as submitted does comply with the water supply standards because. 00:17:01
Board and Tri Water Regional. 00:17:06
Water has provided a service letter for the new. 00:17:09
Lots. A three inch line is available for service. Note this line is not adequate for bad Fire Protection. 00:17:13
#7 the plat as submitted is suitable. 00:17:19
Pursuage and wastewater contain. 00:17:21
Containment because soil testing has been completed. 00:17:24
And Floyd County Health Department has provided septic system requirements for suitable systems. 00:17:27
The plant is accepted upon completion of the following condition at a joint driveway and easement to the plat for Lots 1 and 2. 00:17:33
Adding note to the plat. 00:17:40
That states the following. Prior to development, the owners shall consult the Highlander Fire Protection District for Fire 00:17:41
Protection requirements. 00:17:45
Due to the lack of adequate water supply. 00:17:48
Decision the Floyd County Planning Commission hereby grants the. 00:17:51
Primary approval. 00:17:55
For this administrative subdivision at the meeting held on the 10th of February, 2025. 00:17:56
That completes my ballot. 00:18:02
All right, we have a ballot. We're looking for a second. 00:18:04
I'll second. We have a second. 00:18:09
All in favor signify any discussion. Any discussion. 00:18:11
Any discussion? 00:18:15
All in favor signify by aye aye, those opposed likewise. 00:18:17
It passes. Thank you. 00:18:22
Did they sign down? 00:18:31
OK, at this time we like to move to Well, first of all, we want to ask the petitioner. 00:18:34
If they're OK with us putting. 00:18:40
Agenda items 3 through 6 and hearing them at the same time. 00:18:43
Mr. Craft, you OK with that? 00:18:47
All right. 00:18:50
Yes, separate ballots on everyone. Yes, Sir. 00:18:52
OK. OK. At this time, we'd like to ask Nick Creeby. 00:18:55
I'm a non voting member but I'll be recused recusing myself for the rest of the meeting. All right, thank you. 00:19:00
At this time, they could give a staff report. 00:19:09
So this is for docket items number FCO 1/25/02. 00:19:13
CO125. 00:19:18
Three FC 24. 00:19:20
504. 00:19:23
In FC. 00:19:27
1/25/05. 00:19:31
Petitioner Here's the Thing Group LLC. The location is 5031 through 5053 Old Vincent's Road. 00:19:38
The requests are for a zoning map amendment. 00:19:45
A major subdivision. 00:19:50
A PUD map amendment. 00:19:53
In detailed development. 00:19:56
They are all pertaining to the same project. 00:19:59
The current zoning is for general commercial. 00:20:03
Underlying zoning request is for multi family and then a multi family PUD. 00:20:07
The petitioner is seeking a planned unit development for mixed-use, multi family residential and commercial use. 00:20:13
This proposal will consolidate 4 parcels into two building lots, 3 points 64 and 2.334 acres. 00:20:19
The lots will be separated by through St. known as Knobs Landing Blvd. 00:20:28
Connecting Tuscany Drive in Trevor Rd. 00:20:33
Lot 1 will front will Vincennes Road and is the larger lot and will include two building. 00:20:36
Two buildings, A mixed-use commercial multifamily building. Building 1. 00:20:42
In a separate standalone commercial. 00:20:46
Retail building with drive through. 00:20:49
Which is proposed bank building 3 threes. 00:20:51
Lot 2 will have a single multi family building. 00:20:54
In a building 2. 00:20:58
Building 1 at the north of the property in the fronting Old Vincennes Rd. 00:21:00
Will be a three story structure with the ground floor area of 25,092 square feet. 00:21:05
The building will include 7717 square foot of commercial retail space. 00:21:11
Clubhouse leasing office. 00:21:17
And 59 multifamily units, 21 of those will be two-bedroom, 38 one bedroom. 00:21:19
Building 3 at the east side of the property will be near the corner of Shriver and Old Vincent's. 00:21:26
It will be a thirty 3600 square foot retail building with drive through that is the proposed bank. 00:21:31
Building 2, located at the South of the property on Lot 2, will be a three story multi family structure with ground floor area of 00:21:40
23,679 square feet and 66 units. 00:21:46
The property will also have. 00:21:52
Pool and outdoor recreation games area. 00:21:54
Neat foot masonry wall. 00:21:57
We'll buffer the residents on the West side of the development. 00:22:00
Villas of Floyd's knives. 00:22:03
Adjoining properties to the West. 00:22:05
Is the residential urban zone subdivision buildings of Floyd's Knobs to northwest across Tuscany. Dr. is a vacant general 00:22:07
commercial property. 00:22:12
Across Old Vincennes Road to the north is undeveloped general commercial. 00:22:16
To the northeast is Highlander Point development. 00:22:20
General commercial zoned. 00:22:23
The East Across River Rd. is general commercial. 00:22:26
To the South is residentially urban zone property with two acre single family lot. 00:22:29
In small section of the Highland subdivision. 00:22:34
Which is residential urban. 00:22:37
The current base zone for the proposal is general commercial. 00:22:39
Commercial. 00:22:43
Part of Floyd County Zoning Ordinance Section 7.04 GA Base Commercial Zone may not designate more than 30% of the proposed 00:22:44
development per square footage for residential. 00:22:49
Therefore the applicant is requesting the base zone be changed to multi family. 00:22:55
A traffic impact study was conducted for the proposal and determined that the intersections impacted by the development. 00:23:01
Will continue to work at an acceptable level of service. 00:23:07
Technical Review Committee was held on December 18th, 2024 for this development. 00:23:17
Summary report was attached to your staff report. 00:23:23
The technical review committee provides. 00:23:27
Recommendations to the Planning Commission. 00:23:30
On that. 00:23:33
Are the utility providers. 00:23:34
Public Safety. Sheriff Fire. 00:23:37
School. 00:23:40
As well as county staff, storm water engineering and planning. 00:23:42
The reason? Staff finds that the rezoning of the subject property is consistent with the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan. 00:23:47
Because the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan identifies the area as a commercial growth area. 00:23:54
Proposed. 00:23:59
The mixed-use featuring a commercial element yours to the frontage. 00:24:00
Additionally, rezoning is consistent with smart growth principles identified in the plan. Specifically mixed land uses compact 00:24:04
building design. 00:24:08
Creating a range of housing opportunities, directing development towards existing communities and preferring. 00:24:12
And thus preserving open space, farmland, natural beauty, and critical environmental areas. 00:24:18
As this is an infill development. 00:24:23
The rezoning of the subject property is consistent with the. 00:24:27
Conditions of the character of the current structures in the. 00:24:30
And uses in the area. 00:24:34
Because the commercial use is in the front of the lot are consistent with the original general commercial zoning. 00:24:36
The multifamily uses our appropriate transitional uses between general commercial and urban residential uses. 00:24:42
Voting facade materials are brick and Hardy board. 00:24:48
The structures are within the height limits of the zoning ordinance. And there are. 00:24:52
There is another three story building in the vicinity that is the Chase Bank. 00:24:56
The rezoning of the subject property is necessary for the most desirable use of. 00:25:01
The land because. 00:25:06
The rezoning follows smart growth principles already noted. 00:25:08
It has also provided. 00:25:12
Additional housing identified as needed in the Purdue Housing Report the county had completed in 2020. 00:25:14
It is mixed-use infill in commercial growth area. 00:25:20
The rezoning of the subject property will not be interest to the values of other properties in the area because. 00:25:24
Commercial uses are consistent with the neighborhood commercial zoning. 00:25:30
Excuse me? 00:25:34
The general commercial zoning. 00:25:35
Inappropriate adjacent and residential urban zoning. 00:25:38
And uses the addition of the multifamily component. 00:25:41
Will support local business customer base. The development will increase the value of the lots itself and expected that positive 00:25:44
impacts on neighboring commercial lots. 00:25:48
Buffer yard. 00:25:53
Along adjacent residential lots is provided on the West. Additional buffering is recommended for the properties on the South. 00:25:54
The rezoning of the subject property will support responsible growth and development in the area. 00:26:03
Because rezoning follows the objectives of small smart growth outlined in the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan. 00:26:08
Higher development is directed towards existing infrastructure. 00:26:15
Provider letters indicate ability to serve and the development is identified. Commercial growth area. 00:26:18
It is an infill development staff has favorable recommendations for the reason. 00:26:24
Written commitments recommended would be buffer yard 2 standards met. 00:26:30
For all adjoining residents. 00:26:34
Drainage will meet Floyd County stormwater standards as approved by the Stormwater Board. 00:26:37
And if phased, lot 1 will be developed first in a schedule for completion of the project will be provided. 00:26:43
Onto the subdivision application. 00:26:51
I will not repeat the. 00:26:54
Outline of the. 00:26:58
Project. 00:26:59
On staff review, the Petitioner has provided compliant preliminary plan for the project, including preliminary plat. Petitioner 00:27:01
has provided certification that all drainage and environmental requirements will be complied with and that there are no known 00:27:06
outstanding issues concerning IDAM. 00:27:11
Geotechnical report is not required for the property and staff. The traffic study has been completed by strained associates. 00:27:17
In the phase one environmental is not required. 00:27:25
Lots meet the size and frontage standards of the zoning ordinance. 00:27:28
General, commercial and multifamily districts. 00:27:31
Knobs Landing Blvd. is proposed as a through St. between Tuscany and Schreiber Rd. Dimensions and layout. 00:27:35
Subdivision control ordinance requirements. 00:27:43
Multiple entrances from Schreiber Rd. Knobs Landing Blvd. in Tuscany Dr. is provided. 00:27:46
Sidewalks are provided. 00:27:52
Certification to meet county drainage and stormwater standards have been provided final approval of the drainage plan. 00:27:54
Will be required prior to secondary approval. 00:28:01
The petitioner has provided willingness to serve. Letters from Floyd Knobs Water, Georgetown. 00:28:05
Township Fire Protection District, Harrison RC, New Albany Wastewater Charter and AT&T. 00:28:09
The wastewater will be provided by New Albany Storm Water. 00:28:16
Our wastewater is not. 00:28:19
Staff recommendations are just that, the. 00:28:21
Final approval of drains stormwater plans be required prior to secondary improvement. 00:28:24
For the PUD application. 00:28:30
I'll go over the PUD process. 00:28:32
So part. 00:28:34
Planned unit development is a design special district that can be pursued by an applicant. The purpose of the planned unit 00:28:36
development is to courage the flexibility to develop or redevelop land in an effort to promote appropriate uses. 00:28:42
Maintain unique character features such as natural or historic resources. 00:28:49
Promote innovative design concepts. 00:28:53
It is also designed to facilitate the economies of scale in relationship to infrastructure, public services, encouraging field 00:28:56
development. 00:28:59
PUD process. 00:29:03
Petitioner meets with staff. 00:29:05
For a conceptual step. 00:29:07
Sketch playing and playing conference, which they did on. 00:29:09
October 23rd, 2024. 00:29:13
Petitioner then submits a detailed development plan for review. 00:29:16
And submits a PUD application for Employment Commission. 00:29:19
The Plan Commission can then. 00:29:23
Provide umm. 00:29:25
A recommendation to the county commissioners. 00:29:26
In a favor favorable recommendation. 00:29:29
An unfavorable recommendation or no recommendation? 00:29:32
The county commissioners will then review the rezoning petition within 90 days and may approve or disapprove the request. Upon 00:29:36
approval, the property is officially resumed. 00:29:41
The PUD will then return to the Planning Commission for secondary approval. 00:29:46
Of the detailed development plan. 00:29:50
No additional public hearing will be required. 00:29:52
Safra views of the pod. 00:29:56
But very significantly from the zoning. 00:29:58
In subdivision control ordinances in a few areas. 00:30:01
1st. 00:30:08
It is unclear the minimum. 00:30:09
Unit size of the units. 00:30:10
We have an 800 square foot. 00:30:13
Minimum. So I would just like. 00:30:15
The applicant provide that information. 00:30:17
Density. They're requesting approximately 20.9 dwellings per acre. 00:30:20
Our multi family standard is. 00:30:25
Currently 8 is the allowed maximum. 00:30:28
We do have several developments in the county. 00:30:31
That have. 00:30:34
19 to 20, that's not built. 00:30:35
And Gateway villages has about 15. 00:30:39
Dwelling units breaker. 00:30:41
Parking 2 1/2 spaces are required per dwelling unit. 00:30:44
They have provided 1.8 for lot 1 and 1.92 for lot 2. 00:30:48
And then the buffer yard. 00:30:55
South side of the property. 00:30:56
Would require. 00:30:59
Buffer Yard 2 standards. 00:31:00
The proposed land in the in. 00:31:03
Land uses in the PUD are. 00:31:06
Are not in conflict with the spirit and intent. 00:31:08
Of the comprehensive plan, surrounding land uses and zoning districts. 00:31:11
The comprehensive plan. 00:31:16
It shows that the area is a commercial growth area. High density should be directed towards adequate infrastructure and public 00:31:18
services. 00:31:21
Proposal can be served by all utility providers without expansion. 00:31:24
In multi family style density should consider mixed land uses which is studs. 00:31:29
Zoning and surrounding land uses. The proposal is currently in the general commercial district with residential urban. 00:31:34
General commercial adjacent. 00:31:40
The proposed blood does provide adequate public service, light, air traffic control, open and more common. 00:31:43
Space and recreation. 00:31:49
The proposal does include adequate services, as evidenced. 00:31:52
Service provider letters. 00:31:55
Proposal includes reasonable traffic circulation plan. 00:31:58
Traffic impact study has been conducted. 00:32:01
And the proposal provides recreational space in the form of a pool and outdoor games area. There's also green space within the 00:32:04
development. 00:32:07
The proposed PUD is compatible with adjacent properties and surrounding neighborhood. 00:32:12
Commercial use is consistent with general commercial uses in the Highlander point in the zoning of adjacent properties, 00:32:17
multifamily residential. 00:32:21
Is appropriate with mixed uses and should be buffered from adjacent. 00:32:24
Residential uses. 00:32:29
The proposed BUD will not interfere with the use or diminish the value of adjacent properties. 00:32:31
In surrounding neighborhood. 00:32:35
Improvements on the land are expected to have positive impacts on neighboring property values. 00:32:37
Mixed retail, commercial and multi family will not diminish the use of neighborhood properties with adequate public services 00:32:42
provided. 00:32:46
Appropriate offering is required to adjourn. 00:32:50
Residential properties. 00:32:53
HUD will not diminish the level of service for roadway systems in the vicinity. 00:32:55
As the traffic impact study. 00:33:00
Concluded. 00:33:03
The proposed PUD can be immediately and adequately served by the existing public facilities and services. 00:33:05
As evidenced by the. 00:33:11
Service letters. 00:33:13
The proposed POD does preserve natural and historic. 00:33:15
Resources to every extent possible. The existing cycles of single family structure used as a commercial office. 00:33:18
The site will be cleared and new plantings consistent with the zoning ordinance Landscaping will be installed. 00:33:24
There are no known historic resources on the site. 00:33:30
Proposed PUD will not be interest to the health, safety and general welfare. The proposed plot is consistent with planning 00:33:35
documents for this area. Adequate public infrastructure is available. 00:33:40
For the development as our public services. 00:33:46
Drainage will be approved by County Stormwater consistent with their requirements. Staff recommendations are favorable 00:33:49
recommendation with the following commitments and conditions. 00:33:53
Written commitments will be phased. Phase one will be Lot 1 funding or Vincents Road and the schedule for completion of all phases 00:33:59
will be provided. 00:34:03
To the Planning Commission. 00:34:07
Prior to secondary approval. 00:34:08
Provide additional screening of dumpster on lot 1 between dumpster and roadway. 00:34:11
Provide light at entrance locations where there are none and meet Buffer Yard 2 standards for adjoining residential use to the 00:34:16
South. 00:34:20
That is the staff report for these 4. 00:34:24
Applications. 00:34:27
All righty. Thanks, Nick. Any any questions on the board? 00:34:30
You have a question. 00:34:34
Nick, you indicated. 00:34:36
There that strange associates conducted a traffic study for the project and then an acceptable. 00:34:37
Loss or level of service was was found. Those law studies typically indicate like a grade between A and F Do you have any idea 00:34:42
what the grade was for the particular project? 00:34:47
B i.e. and beyond. 00:34:53
The the level of service indicated. 00:34:57
Which is. 00:35:01
Deemed acceptable as the current level of service. 00:35:03
So any other? 00:35:09
Any other questions? 00:35:11
For Nick. 00:35:14
And they if. 00:35:16
We had a TRC on this right, a technical review committee. 00:35:17
Can we explain just a little bit to the board? 00:35:20
What came out of that meeting? What's the purpose of that meeting? Yes, the tier the plans provided to the TRC were. 00:35:24
A little bit different than what we finally have here. 00:35:30
The alignment of the site had the bank on the opposite side on Tuscany Drive. 00:35:34
Dumpster was located closer to the roadway on Knox Landing or Knox Landing Blvd. 00:35:42
There were more multifamily units. 00:35:48
So the parking. 00:35:51
Ratios were. 00:35:53
Less. 00:35:55
And there was number buffer yard. 00:35:59
For the residential. 00:36:00
Properties to the West. So they didn't make all those modifications for this final application, OK. 00:36:02
All righty. 00:36:11
So they've already adjusted. 00:36:14
The original application, is that correct? 00:36:16
At the TRC. 00:36:19
Thank you. 00:36:21
Are any other questions for Nick? 00:36:22
OK. At this point, let me go through just a little bit of a housekeeping here. 00:36:24
Because of the sensitivity of this project and the number of. 00:36:29
Agenda items we have. 00:36:34
We're going to increase the time that we allow. 00:36:36
For the applicant to present his. 00:36:38
Project and then we're going to double the times. 00:36:43
That we have for people to speak in favor, to speak in opposition, and then we will then give the applicant 5 minutes to rebut 00:36:46
anything that was so said. So just let the board know that that's what we're going to do because of the. 00:36:52
The sensitivity of this project so. 00:36:58
If the applicant would like to come forward, state his name and address. 00:37:01
We appreciate it. 00:37:05
For the record, John Craft with the law firm of Young Lind Anderson Kraft, 126 W Spring Street in New Albany. 00:37:14
Appearing on behalf of the applicant. 00:37:21
Along with the engineer which would be Jason Copper White with Paul Primavera and Associates. 00:37:23
Jackson Theneman is with me as well from Phenomenon. 00:37:28
Group LLC. 00:37:32
And then likewise Daniel Moriarty. 00:37:34
Who has designed the? 00:37:36
Project from the standpoint of the architectural piece of that. 00:37:38
So ultimately. 00:37:42
Four of us will present. 00:37:44
I'll cover first of all, as indicated, there are four items before you this evening. 00:37:47
Two of which are rezoning. 00:37:51
Which means ultimately, those two rezoning issues come to you for a recommendation. 00:37:53
Not an approval tonight, but merely. 00:37:59
A request as it relates to those zoning requirements. 00:38:02
Going forward to the county commissioners with a favorable. 00:38:06
And unfavorable or no recommendation at all. 00:38:09
Under those two elements, and again, we'll talk a little bit about each one, but under each of those elements. 00:38:13
You have to pay due consideration and these are the same considerations the commissioners will look at in order to make a 00:38:20
determination. 00:38:23
On the passage of these two ordinances. 00:38:27
Primarily, Indiana Code 3674603 covers those five elements. 00:38:30
Those five elements deal with the Comprehensive Plan and. 00:38:35
You'll hear on a. 00:38:38
PowerPoint, you'll hear Mr. Copper Weight go through those issues with regards to compliance with the current comprehensive plan. 00:38:41
Current conditions and character of current structures and uses in each district. 00:38:48
The most desirable use for which land in each district is adapted. 00:38:53
Conservation of property values throughout the jurisdiction. 00:38:57
And responsible development and growth. 00:39:01
You've probably heard a number of items covered by Mr. Creepy when he spoke. 00:39:03
Pertaining to the staff report. 00:39:07
And this is a growth area in the county? 00:39:09
Certainly, again, Mr. Copper weight will cover that more fully. 00:39:12
The piece as it relates to. 00:39:16
The change from GC, which if you look at the current zoning ordinance in Floyd County, there are 91. 00:39:18
Uses that could be put there as a matter of right. 00:39:27
Including, uh. 00:39:30
Big box commercial. 00:39:31
Including smaller units, but it is a GC in their actual 91 uses that could be put there as a matter of right. 00:39:32
One of the things that you'll hear this evening is when Mr. Feenman looked at this project. 00:39:40
He looked at it from the standpoint of dealing with. 00:39:45
Walkability. 00:39:49
Specifically, individuals as well as commercial uses don't want to go in an area now just where they're putting a commercial use. 00:39:51
They want the possibility of residents that can use that commercial area and also look at the possibility of walking to and from 00:39:58
their residence to those commercial uses. 00:40:04
When we look at the issue from a GC to the MF. 00:40:10
The multifamily. 00:40:14
Under the terms of a normal change of zoning. 00:40:16
When taking it to an MF that would allow any type of. 00:40:19
Multifamily use on this property. 00:40:23
Provided it meets the development standards of the multifamily. 00:40:26
But the other piece of the rezoning request this evening? 00:40:29
Is taking that multifamily to a PUD. 00:40:33
And the purpose of a PUD first and foremost is to deal with mixed uses. 00:40:36
On a given property. 00:40:41
But most importantly to you as well as the county commissioners as well as the community. 00:40:43
When you take a. 00:40:48
Change to an MF that allows, as long as it meets the requirements, to go as deep and as dense as you desire to do on this 6 plus 00:40:50
acres. 00:40:54
But with the change to a planned unit development district. 00:40:59
What it requires, and you heard Mr. Creevy, again go through the process because the process is one of those that if both zoning 00:41:04
changes are forwarded to the commissioners with favorable recommendations and again the commissioners passed those. 00:41:11
That ultimately. 00:41:19
The PUD must then return to you as the Plan Commission for secondary review. 00:41:20
So it's not a matter that we're getting a blank check. 00:41:26
For a change to multifamily and do what we desire to do. 00:41:29
The project itself. And that's the 4th element you'll see this evening. 00:41:33
Is the development plan. 00:41:37
But under the terms of a planned unit development district. 00:41:39
It is established by way of ordinance. So ultimately. 00:41:42
Commissioners pass that ordinance. 00:41:45
They will then adopt specific. 00:41:48
Definitions of what you may do. 00:41:50
Much again as indicated. 00:41:53
We went to the. 00:41:55
Technical Review Committee on December 18th and walk through this project in order to make certain that what we would do and what 00:41:57
the development plan would cover would be in order that we can move forward with it. 00:42:03
So it's not a matter that by granting an MF. 00:42:08
In that instance, it's a matter of granting an MF with a planned unit development district. 00:42:12
It will then designate exactly what can be put on that parcel. 00:42:17
That will then be brought back to you as the Plan Commission for secondary review. 00:42:21
Once that secondary review is granted. 00:42:26
Then from that standpoint, what you end up with is a situation of having to abide. 00:42:30
By that plan that you see in front of you. 00:42:36
If that is the secondary approval plan. 00:42:39
And as a result of that, it allows you as well as the commissioners the ability. 00:42:41
To determine what planned documentation. 00:42:47
And you heard Mr. Creedy's report, some of those elements of what needs to be provided. 00:42:50
In order to move this forward. 00:42:55
Provided. 00:42:57
It changes from MF. 00:42:58
To the PUD. 00:43:00
Those two come together. 00:43:02
And again, those would be adopted by way of an ordinance by the county commissioners. 00:43:03
The other two pieces of it. 00:43:08
Provided. 00:43:10
Those two zoning changes come forward. Those other two pieces then become ministerial in nature. 00:43:12
And that is the subdivision. 00:43:19
And as long as the subdivision meets the requirements of the subdivision control ordinance. And again when listening to the report 00:43:21
of Mr. Privy, and I'm sure you've read it. 00:43:26
Specifically, uh. 00:43:31
We meet those requirements if in fact those two zoning changes come about. 00:43:32
The other piece of it. 00:43:37
Would be the development. 00:43:39
And once again, provided that development plan meets all of the elements as to setbacks and otherwise for this zoning district. 00:43:40
With the planned unit development district. 00:43:48
Then likewise, that is a ministerial action as well. 00:43:51
We're here this evening asking specifically that these 4 dockets. 00:43:55
Be approved. 00:43:59
Two of which were asking for favorable recommendation. 00:44:00
To the county commissioners. 00:44:04
Certainly your recommendation is what the county commissioners are going to listen to. 00:44:05
The county commissioners do not have to follow your recommendation. 00:44:10
But certainly from the standpoint it in my experience over 40 plus years. 00:44:14
Most times and most often, they will follow that recommendation. So we're here this evening asking for favorable recommendation 00:44:19
on. 00:44:23
The zoning change from. 00:44:27
Our two MF from. 00:44:30
The GC as well as asking that MF be limited by way of a PUD. 00:44:33
And ask that that likewise be forwarded. 00:44:39
With a favorable recommendation. 00:44:42
I'm gonna call on. 00:44:44
Jason to go through the elements with regards to the plan itself and touch on those elements under the comprehensive plan you 00:44:46
should have in front of you. If not, it'll be on the screen a power. 00:44:51
PowerPoint presentation regarding that. Thank you. 00:44:57
All right. Thank you. How are we doing on time? 00:45:01
How much? 00:45:08
Two, he had 20. He had total 20 minutes. 00:45:09
12. 00:45:13
He got 1212 minutes. I'll try to be quick. 00:45:15
There you go. 00:45:18
Good evening, Jason Copper. Wait again with Paul from Avera and Associates. 00:45:19
I'll try not to repeat anything. 00:45:22
Mr. Creeby said, or Mr. Kraft said, though there are probably slides that you repeat that information. 00:45:24
I'll try to gloss over those if I can. 00:45:28
Again, this is knobs landing mixed-use development. 00:45:30
Located at 5031 through 50. 00:45:33
53 Old Vincennes Rd. 00:45:35
The next slide, that's the aerial of the site. 00:45:38
I don't know that anyone's actually showing you that when they were talking, but it's the southwest quadrant of the intersection 00:45:41
of Shriver Rd. 00:45:43
And open sense you can see to the West as villas of Floyd Knobs. 00:45:46
To the South as a single family residence and the Highlands that's still developing NE is Highlander Point. 00:45:50
Just to the east of this Planning Commission may remember. 00:45:56
You've approved a bank development plan at that site. 00:45:59
Don't know when that will be developed, but it's coming. 00:46:02
This is the zoning map for the area. The red is general commercial GC. 00:46:04
The orange is residential urban. 00:46:08
Are you? 00:46:10
These are the four applications that have been talked about already. 00:46:12
This is an artist rendering that Mister Moriarty prepared for the site. 00:46:17
You can see. 00:46:21
Prize and help you, but there are two buildings on the north lot. 00:46:23
One building on the South with some amenities together on the north lot. 00:46:26
This is the. 00:46:31
My engineering version of his color rendering which shows a little bit more detail. It has turned 90°. Apologize for that. 00:46:32
But again, it's just a little bit more detailed. 00:46:40
So it is 6.4 acres. It will be. 00:46:43
The plan is to divide it into two lots. 00:46:46
Mr. Creepy went through the particulars. Just to highlight those, Building 1 is 7717 square foot of ground floor retail. 00:46:49
With a leasing office, clubhouse. 00:46:57
59 multifamily dwelling units, 21 of which are two-bedroom, 38 of which are one bedroom. 00:46:58
Google and other outdoor amenities are proposed there. 00:47:03
Building 2 is 66 multifamily dwelling units, 24 two-bedroom and 42 one bedroom. This that's on the South lot and building 3 is a 00:47:06
3600 square foot. 00:47:11
Bank Retail. 00:47:15
With a drive through. 00:47:17
These are the zoning. 00:47:20
Change characteristics that Mister Kraft talked about earlier. 00:47:22
So I took excerpts from your comprehensive plan that I that I felt showed that this site. 00:47:28
Met the requirements. 00:47:33
As Mr. Creeby said, smart growth, it's kind of buzzword throughout your comprehensive plan. 00:47:35
Smart Growth is a planning theory designed toward the efficient use of land, resources and existing urban infrastructure. 00:47:40
And your in your comp plan list. 00:47:45
10 smart growth principles, of which we probably meet 8. 00:47:48
Mixed land uses where appropriate. 00:47:52
Take advantage of compact building design. 00:47:54
Create a range of housing opportunities throughout the jurisdiction. 00:47:56
Create walkable communities. You'll see the pedestrian infrastructure we're proposing. 00:47:59
Preserve open space. Now you could say this is not preserving open space. 00:48:06
But what this does is it brings people to a developed area where there is infrastructure that allows remaining properties to the 00:48:09
county to remain. 00:48:13
To remain open and undeveloped. 00:48:17
Strengthen development Development toward existing communities. 00:48:20
Again at Highlander Point. 00:48:23
We're at Highlander Point. 00:48:25
And then? 00:48:28
Encourage community and stakeholder collaboration. 00:48:30
You have a very interactive process, as you know with TRC meetings. 00:48:33
We took that TRC meeting and those comments from that TRC meeting to heart. 00:48:36
And made very significant changes to the plan. 00:48:40
The original proposal was, I think, about 156 multifamily dwellings, dwelling units. 00:48:43
And a comparable number of retail. 00:48:48
The developer shrunk that to 125, split the bank out, per TRC comments. 00:48:51
Added the buffering we'll talk about. 00:48:55
So he's listening is the point. He's listening and adapting. 00:48:58
Theme places to live a lot again, a lot of those. 00:49:02
Objectives from the goals meet this this project. I can give you copies of this. 00:49:07
When we're finished. 00:49:12
Promoting locally grown and owned. 00:49:13
It is anticipated that a lot of these retail establishments will be local businesses, locally owned businesses. 00:49:16
We're thinking the bank is going to be a relatively small regional bank. 00:49:22
Not a necessarily a National Bank. 00:49:26
Then your comp plan says direct hire residential developments toward areas of the proximity to adequate infrastructure and public 00:49:30
services. 00:49:33
Where appropriate, higher density. 00:49:36
Patio homes. Multi family development should be directed toward established urban areas based on proximity to existing services 00:49:38
and density. 00:49:42
Multi family development should be limited to area to areas where they're again access to commercial. 00:49:45
Surrounded by utilities. 00:49:51
The comp plan designates the Highlander Point as a commercial growth area. 00:49:54
Everyone realizes that. 00:49:58
A commercial should be. 00:50:01
Targeted toward Highlander. The Highlander Point corridor specifically says that. 00:50:02
This is the Georgetown Township excerpt from the comp plan. 00:50:07
That that. 00:50:11
Dark dark box in the upper right hand corner is the location of this. 00:50:12
The comp plan for Georgetown mostly focuses on the Edwardsville. 00:50:16
Gateway and the Edwardsville Interchange because this site really is more closely related to the Lafayette Township. The east 00:50:20
boundary of This site is Lafayette Township. 00:50:25
So this is the Lafayette Township map. 00:50:30
Map with the box showing the area again. It shows that as an intense development area by your comp plan. 00:50:32
Future land use in Georgetown Township would be directed toward existing infrastructure. That's a theme throughout your comp plan. 00:50:40
I'll try and skip that. 00:50:44
Commercial again at. 00:50:49
And this is average for Gateway for Georgetown? 00:50:50
Same language in Lafayette even says similar to Georgetown. 00:50:53
And then future commercial will be located at Hallander Point. 00:50:57
Properties already zoned commercial, but we are. 00:51:00
Continuing to implement. 00:51:03
Commercial element. 00:51:04
This project. 00:51:06
Current conditions and structures. 00:51:07
Again, there there is quite a bit of development happening and that has happened around this area. 00:51:09
You have Highlander Point Commercial. 00:51:14
District East. 00:51:16
You have additional commercial just east of this with the gas station. 00:51:17
Williamsburg Station, the bank that's coming in. 00:51:21
This project, as Nick said, would. 00:51:25
It's a nice transition from. 00:51:28
Commercial. Intense commercial. 00:51:30
Through higher density residential to lower density, even though it's still your residential urban. 00:51:31
Zoning. 00:51:37
And then this is a rendering of the building which you've seen in the package. 00:51:38
It is a very similar to what you see right across the street. 00:51:42
So the subdivision it is 2 commercial lots. 00:51:49
Would be a new road connecting the stub and villas of Floyd Knobs to Schreiber. 00:51:51
And if the MF and PUD MF are approved, the subdivision would meet all your requirements. 00:51:56
John talked about what a PUD means. 00:52:06
So the PUD in this particular case also. 00:52:09
Satisfies the development plan. I'll mention that later, but keep in mind when I'm talking about these PUD plans, I'm also talking 00:52:12
about the development plan. 00:52:15
Again, this is the engineering. 00:52:19
Site plan to support the development plan and the PUD. 00:52:21
It does feature the three buildings. 00:52:25
Also, it features the amenities. There's a swimming pool plan on lot 1. 00:52:27
There's an outdoor kitchen and outdoor seating and the outdoor games area that Mister Creeby mentioned earlier. 00:52:32
As well as open space to the West. 00:52:37
That those facilities are intended to serve both. 00:52:40
Both Watts in the neighborhood. 00:52:44
Same parameters I listed earlier. 00:52:47
There are two entrances from Lot 11 onto the proposed road and one on to Tuscany. 00:52:50
There are three interests from Lot 2, one on to Shriver and two onto the proposed roadway. 00:52:55
There are pedestrian walks and crossings throughout the site. 00:53:00
One interesting feature of the site is that is that once the traffic signal is installed at Schreiber. 00:53:02
That has pedestrian crosswalks included as part of the project. 00:53:09
You'll be able to walk from villas of Floyd Knobs or the Highlands all the way to anywhere you want to go in Highlander Point. 00:53:12
It's going to, it's going to facilitate pedestrian access for that whole region. 00:53:18
Again, the amenities on Lot 1. 00:53:23
Parking. 00:53:26
Lot 1. We've allocated 50 spaces for the proposed retail bank. 00:53:28
That leaves 1100. 00:53:33
111 spaces for the multifamily which is 1.88. 00:53:35
Spaces per dwelling unit. 00:53:38
127 spaces on Lot 2. 00:53:40
Which? 00:53:43
Yields 1.92 spaces per dwelling unit. 00:53:44
Mr. Creeby mentioned that your ordinance requires 2.5 spaces per dwelling unit. It makes no distinction as to whether they're one 00:53:47
bedroom or two-bedroom. 00:53:51
I personally believe that's overparked. 00:53:55
I did pick up the. 00:53:58
Institute of Traffic Engineers Parking generation manual. 00:54:00
They indicate that retail is. 00:54:03
5.45 spaces per 1000 square foot of retail, which would be 6 about 62 spaces required. 00:54:07
One bedroom units are 1.38 spaces per unit. 00:54:13
And a two-bedroom unit is 2.08 spaces per unit. 00:54:17
Using a total requirement per ITE. 00:54:19
About 265 and we're providing 288. 00:54:22
And I can give you copies of this. 00:54:26
After the presentation. 00:54:27
Lot area. 00:54:30
So lot 1. 00:54:31
The the pool and the recreation area to me should be included in open space. 00:54:33
If you don't include it in open space. 00:54:37
Or if you we have 68.8% impervious area. 00:54:40
If you do include it as open space, we have 61.5. 00:54:44
The MF ordinance require it allows 65. 00:54:48
Lot 2 we have a 71.5. 00:54:52
Making an overall of 69.85. 00:54:55
Or if you exclude the right out the recreation area is 65.4 so very close to what MF? 00:54:58
Would otherwise allow. 00:55:04
We do have significant landscaping and as Mr. Crete. 00:55:06
We do meet the ordinance as far as plantings along the roadways. 00:55:09
Parking lot screening and parking islands with plantings. 00:55:13
And then we did add the buffer along the West side for bills of fluid knobs. 00:55:17
With a wall that is concrete. 00:55:22
With plantings behind it, which is specified as a type 2 buffer. 00:55:24
We did not do that along. 00:55:28
The South Side. 00:55:30
I spoke with Mr. Tieneman after we received Mr. Kibe staff report. He is willing to do that but he would like to make a change. 00:55:32
Previously, the wall was planned to be brick on both sides. 00:55:39
He spent a lot of time in Florida lately and they have products there that would be concrete walls with stucco. 00:55:42
On either side that are still very attractive. 00:55:48
And so. 00:55:51
He would extend this wall to be 300 feet. 00:55:52
Along the South line. 00:55:54
There's a Creek that runs from that wider island there. 00:55:56
We can. Once you get past that Creek, it really doesn't make sense to buffer that area. So he would extend the buffer the wall. 00:55:59
That extra 300 feet with the plantings and that would then meet the requirements of type 2. 00:56:05
That that about 70 foot stretch. 00:56:10
On the east side of the Creek would not, but we still have the plantings there. 00:56:12
And you can see that's the front yard of the neighbor. 00:56:16
It should be less intrusive to him at that area. 00:56:20
The lighting plan meets the standards of the ordinance. No no fixture is taller than 20 feet and it's all down lighting. 00:56:24
These are the proposed lighting fixtures. 00:56:31
Just so we're showing a unified. 00:56:33
Design The sign plan meets the requirements of the ordinance. There are two monument signs, one at Tuscany and one at Knox Lane 00:56:35
Knox Landing Blvd. at Schreiber. 00:56:41
And all the building signage would comply with the existing sign against. 00:56:46
Ordinance the building facades. It's an attractive building. It meets the state requirements of the Highlander Point Overlay 00:56:50
District. 00:56:53
Brick, stone and Hardy. 00:56:57
You've seen that. 00:56:59
This is a blow up of the building 1. 00:57:01
Rendering This is a blow up of the Building 2 rendering which is on the South lot. 00:57:04
And this is the the bank with building one in the background. 00:57:08
OK. So common concerns that we hear always traffic. I know you've heard it from the audience today. 00:57:15
I'm not sure how many people are aware, but the county is planning to install a traffic signal at Shriver and Old Vincennes. 00:57:20
That has been in the plan. They're also upgrading Open Olden Sins. 00:57:27
The traffic study indicates that. 00:57:30
The intersections as proposed in the design year for original traffic study will also operate an acceptable level. 00:57:33
With additional traffic from this proposed development. 00:57:38
Drainage Fluke County is the most stringent drainage requirements in the region. 00:57:41
We anticipate stormwater and underground detention facilities circled there in the light blue. 00:57:46
That that wider island that you saw is the discharge town. 00:57:52
And then the county had commissioned a study for this whole area back in 2021. 00:57:56
That showed if development continued in accordance with your stormwater ordinance, that things will get better overtime. 00:58:01
Questions. 00:58:09
OK, you didn't do bad. You missed about 15 seconds. Sorry about that. 00:58:11
I do have a question OK, any that's why any questions for Mr. 00:58:15
I'm a little unclear on your on your wall. 00:58:20
On your wall. 00:58:23
Are you leaving Brick at Tuscany? 00:58:25
Are you switching it wanting to switch it all to the stucco wall? 00:58:27
He would request that we could switch it all to the stucco wall. 00:58:32
Because of the additional length. 00:58:35
That's a request. 00:58:37
So when you're you're saying 300 feet. 00:58:38
This is the additional approximately 300 feet. 00:58:41
Cortana. 00:58:46
That's the landscape plan. This is the 300 feet you're talking about, correct? 00:58:48
It's it's this. 00:58:52
It's this area here. 00:58:53
Just that's that's turned, yes, just short of that wider island there. 00:58:56
You do show. 00:59:03
60 foot of a vinyl fence. 00:59:06
Oh. 00:59:09
That's for parking lot screening. 00:59:10
Your ordinance requires a three foot understand why is it there? 00:59:13
I'm just wondering if we should make it. 00:59:18
Match the rest of the ball. 00:59:20
Question something? 00:59:23
Instead of final, maybe 60 feet. 00:59:26
I, I'm going to, I'm going to step out on a limb and say, well, that's. 00:59:29
I just think it ought to match I guess. 00:59:34
No problem. 00:59:36
My first meeting SO. 00:59:39
Indulge me, what were you talking about the fence parking lot then? 00:59:44
There. 00:59:49
There's a little piece of fence right here. 00:59:51
That's supposed to be final. 00:59:54
You're in the part of our ordinance says you've got to screen the parking lot. 00:59:56
Correct. The ordinance requires any parking that faces a street or a neighbor has to be screened with three foot tall shrubs. 00:59:59
Over 3 foot tall fence. 01:00:06
So we can't fit shrubs in that area because it's tied up to the right of way. 01:00:08
So I was proposing a fence. 01:00:11
Battle. If it has to be a wall, I don't. 01:00:13
I think that's a yeah. 01:00:16
Yeah, understood. 01:00:18
Yeah, this may be a question for the developer, but in terms of the. 01:00:20
Target renter. 01:00:24
Are we looking at Class A facilities or what kind of amenities, what kind of people are we targeting? 01:00:26
To inhabit the buildings, what he's told me is granite countertops, you know, very nice facilities. I think he's targeting the 01:00:31
minimum rent to be 1500. 01:00:35
For a one bedroom. 01:00:40
Well, give me a. 01:00:42
All right. Anybody else? 01:00:46
I do have one question, the Connector Rd. that's that is proposed, will there be parking allowed on that road? No. OK. Will you 01:00:51
make sure that that's. 01:00:56
Either signage or somehow. 01:01:01
Make sure that doesn't happen because I could see that. 01:01:03
In advance I could get. 01:01:06
Crowded. 01:01:08
All right, go ahead next. 01:01:10
That will be a county. 01:01:14
Road County. 01:01:15
Oh, it's Canada. 01:01:17
They will. They'll. 01:01:19
It'll be dedicated to the county after it's called, so it's dedicated to the county. 01:01:21
OK, All right. Makes it so we'll let Frank make that decision. 01:01:26
No. 01:01:33
Oh, I meant to start out. 01:01:35
And say that. 01:01:40
I appreciate all the changes that were made, I think. 01:01:42
Several of the comments came from me about. 01:01:47
Moving the bank and. 01:01:49
All of that and I think it's a much improved plan over what was originally presented, so. 01:01:50
You reduce the number of apartments, you move the bank. 01:01:57
So I do like to plan much better than was originally submitted. 01:02:01
Great. Thank you. 01:02:05
All right. At this time, what we'd like to do. 01:02:07
And and just I'd like for everybody just be respectful. 01:02:10
And kind of hold your comments down, if you will. 01:02:13
We're going to we're going to open up 20 minute session. 01:02:16
For anybody that like to speak in favor of this project, come forward in favor. 01:02:19
In favor. 01:02:24
OK, state your name. 01:02:26
I'd like to thank them for all the wonderful. I need your name and address, I'm sorry. 01:02:30
OK. 01:02:35
And I have an 8047 Schreiber Rd. 01:02:36
But I am speaking in favor of this project. I respect the wonderful things he has provided our community. 01:02:39
So I will say thank you for that, but. 01:02:47
You know, we don't always build wonderful things. I'm gonna support something that's not so wonderful because I can think of. 01:02:50
1019 people you know since. 01:02:56
Friday night. 01:02:59
That think this is a bad idea. 01:03:00
So I think he'll need a little support. 01:03:02
I'll say that the idea that they didn't have enough room to put shrubbery behind the fence, it's laughable. 01:03:04
The idea that. 01:03:10
You know pedestrians will be playing in a roundabout. 01:03:11
That's going to be built in the future. 01:03:15
Is asinine. 01:03:17
I mean, I know you all might have agendas or might have your minds made-up, but this is a bad idea. This does not. 01:03:19
I don't know if you read the same comprehensive plan that I did the same, you know, Highlander point. 01:03:26
Gateway plan that I read, but I guess it's up for interpretation. 01:03:32
This is zoning change. 01:03:36
I don't believe. 01:03:38
That that zoning change fits the vision that you had been outlaid. 01:03:39
That I read about. 01:03:43
I can say that. 01:03:45
When I read about the Highlander point plan. 01:03:46
It was unfavorable to have multifamily housing in that area. That was the least. 01:03:49
The least liked proposal. 01:03:53
So what's changed? 01:03:55
We don't need the destination. 01:03:57
You know, if you have pedestrians, it's going to be even more chaos. 01:04:00
And it's already bad and terrible traffic. 01:04:04
I like this area. This is a great area. I think we are going to be. 01:04:07
Value is by allowing this to go through. 01:04:10
So I implore you, please. 01:04:13
Don't. 01:04:16
Don't let this happen. 01:04:17
This is a nice place. We should have nice places. People should aspire to be in nice places. We want to encourage home ownership, 01:04:20
not rental. OK, I'm going to cut you. Cut you off. 01:04:25
I think you've taken. 01:04:30
More in an opposition side than a favorable side, so. 01:04:32
But we'll. 01:04:35
We'll let you come back up and take the time away from the opposition if you want to. I'm just trying to be fair here. 01:04:36
Thank you very much. 01:04:42
This is in favor. 01:04:43
Please. 01:04:44
More than in the favor. 01:04:45
I'm saying your name and your address. Brian's are sweet. OK, I live in the house South. 01:04:47
If you bring the picture back up, just tell us your address please. 01:04:54
It's 5007 over in Saints Row, its original house. Go ahead. 01:04:57
Main road was my driveway. 01:05:02
OK. 01:05:05
If she can get rid of the thing up there. 01:05:06
You just go ahead with your comments please. What I'm trying to do is. 01:05:10
You're changing the. 01:05:14
The Creek you're putting. 01:05:15
660 inch pipes in. 01:05:18
It's going to come down to my driveway, which is a 24 inch. I'm going to have to stop you too. It sounds like you're in 01:05:22
opposition. 01:05:25
No, no, no, I'm not in opposition. 01:05:28
Get this on the record. 01:05:31
Why the engineers people were here and the developers. Do you have some positive to say about this project? I'm just trying to get 01:05:33
you to let me tell you what I need to do because I'm the guy on the side that's going to be effective. OK, I'm going to ask you to 01:05:39
come up when the opposition time comes up, if you don't mind, Sir. 01:05:45
You're talking, I'm just trying to explain to me what. 01:05:51
I want you to put in. 01:05:55
For the engineers to do, it's not going to be a. 01:05:57
You know, either would. 01:06:00
Yeah, it's just trying to tell you. Do you have something to say in favor of this petition? 01:06:01
Is the question yes or no? 01:06:07
If you do, say it. 01:06:10
I'm Either way, you need to sit down, Sir. Thank you very much for your time. 01:06:11
Winner, Let me one more. 01:06:16
Officer, would you please remove this man from this meeting? 01:06:18
All because I live next door. 01:06:25
I asked you to sit down three times, Sir. I'm sorry. 01:06:28
All right, one more, one more time. 01:06:34
Is there anybody that has anything that they like to say in favor of this project? Please come forward. 01:06:36
In favor. 01:06:42
Please umm. 01:06:44
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a process and please respect it. 01:06:47
We're just, we're doing a job up here. If we're trying to do our job, please let us do it. That's all I ask you. 01:06:50
We're going to give everybody the same respect. 01:06:56
That's all I ask you to do. 01:06:58
Anybody else in favor of this, please step forward. 01:07:00
OK. Is there any Sherry? 01:07:03
We got we got an off site location because. 01:07:07
Our elevator is broke down. Sherry, would you come forward and tell us whether we have somebody there once I speak in favor of 01:07:11
this? 01:07:14
No, you do not. OK. Thank you, Sherry. Appreciate. 01:07:19
OK at this time. 01:07:23
If you will start the. 01:07:26
Go ahead. Laram, Sarah. 01:07:27
I will. I will. 01:07:31
At this time we start the timer for the opposition And what I asked. 01:07:32
Hold on. 01:07:37
Please give us a minute here. 01:07:37
What I ask you to do is. 01:07:40
For the for the courtesy of people that want to speak. 01:07:42
If somebody already brought something up about. 01:07:45
The traffic. 01:07:47
Are something that drainage or something that? 01:07:49
Please don't repeat it, save room for somebody has something new to say but. 01:07:51
At that point this gentleman. 01:07:55
Right here, if you will. 01:07:57
Remember, there's people behind you, so give us give them time, please. And we do just so that everybody's on the same page. We do 01:07:59
have a time limit. It's 20 minutes. 01:08:03
That is for everyone that wishes to speak in opposition so. 01:08:07
It's 10 minutes normally on our PER. 01:08:12
For our requirements. 01:08:15
Well I think what they see is so on the screen it does say 10. That is because it only allows her to do 10. So when it hits 10 she 01:08:17
will reset it for another 10 so. 01:08:21
That is for everyone, not for each person. Yeah, we will get back to 20. It's just thank you. 01:08:26
My name is Bill Emerson. I live at 339 Custody Drive in the village of Floyd's Knobs. 01:08:33
We bought our. 01:08:39
Lot in 2020 and. 01:08:40
Don theme and build up. 01:08:43
House quality house that we wanted. 01:08:44
During our meeting with Mr. Theme and we asked what he would be building on the adjacent property. 01:08:47
Which we're talking about today. 01:08:53
He said. 01:08:55
Build a medical services building along old business ends and might build a senior community with possible assisted living 01:08:57
community. 01:09:00
On the rest of the acreage? 01:09:04
That sounded good to us. 01:09:06
We love living the village of Floyd's Knobs. 01:09:08
Walk me to our location for the convenience of having amenities that we wanted nearby. 01:09:11
I would much rather the Don Theman build what he suggested to us. 01:09:17
Rather than the. 01:09:22
I do not support the project as presented tonight. 01:09:25
I would really like to see. 01:09:29
Mr. Thieneman. 01:09:32
Complete the villas. 01:09:33
Rather than us having to continue to live in the construction. 01:09:35
Zone site. They're in Phillips. 01:09:39
I like the houses he builds, he does a great job. 01:09:44
But if you drove up into the villas or you drove over to the other. 01:09:47
Project over in Georgetown. 01:09:51
It's an unfinished project. 01:09:53
And and those of us who live there. 01:09:55
Are really held hostage? 01:09:58
By an unfinished project where we can't have our own homeowners association until Dawn finishes the project. 01:10:00
I really wish you all would put something in. 01:10:07
And your bylaws or whatever if a project is started. 01:10:10
Then it needs to be finished at some particular point. 01:10:15
Our development was not that large that it couldn't be finished. 01:10:19
And the and the other piece of that is. 01:10:23
The walkability. 01:10:25
We have sidewalks once our house is built. 01:10:27
But we have large amounts of space in our in our. 01:10:31
On Tuscany. On Milan. 01:10:34
That we have to walk in the street. 01:10:36
So it's a walkability neighborhood. 01:10:38
But Don hasn't finished the sidewalks. 01:10:41
That are that need to be finished they cross the line across Tuscany so anyway. 01:10:45
I do not agree with Mr. Cooperates to comment about. 01:10:52
This states that the rezoning would not be injurious to the value of the profit in the area. 01:10:56
Come on, when did you ever put apartments next to? 01:11:02
Houses and never lowered the property. 01:11:06
And I'd say the same thing there. 01:11:09
You put apartments next to houses, you lower the property. 01:11:11
I'm grateful that the original location of the bank. 01:11:16
Has been moved. I'm glad that the project is not as large as it once was. I appreciate that. 01:11:19
The change in the fence. 01:11:27
I want the masonry brick fence. 01:11:29
I'm with the masonry. 01:11:32
I don't want the stucco fence. I've seen them. Nice. 01:11:35
But what? 01:11:39
We have is. 01:11:40
I want the brick fence. 01:11:42
My biggest concern about the project. 01:11:46
Is. 01:11:49
The dumpsters. 01:11:50
One of them is right there at the entrance to Tuscany Drive. 01:11:52
Right by very first house on the left on Tuscany. 01:11:56
You've got a you've got a 24 foot dumpster corral. 01:12:01
And then right behind the winnings house back there on the second building be built. 01:12:05
Also is a large dumpster corral right behind those homes? 01:12:10
I don't want I don't know how often they pick up those dumpsters and apartments, whether that's once a week or. 01:12:16
Three times a week. 01:12:21
I just I don't want the. 01:12:23
This put the dumpsters. 01:12:25
Does your way? 01:12:27
Sir, you have to talk to us. You can't talk to anybody. I'm sorry. 01:12:32
Move the dumpsters. 01:12:42
Move the dump. 01:12:44
And if you move the dumpsters. 01:12:45
I can. I can probably live with it. 01:12:47
That I don't like where the dumpsters are at all for the people in the village of Floyd's Knobs. 01:12:49
So anyway, I would encourage you to make those changes before you vote tonight. 01:12:57
All right. Thank you, Bill. 01:13:01
All right, come forward. State your name and address for us, Sir. 01:13:03
10th Interest Property owner .740 N Luther Rd. I cannot think of anything that would cause more problems. 01:13:06
On old Vincennes Rd. in the traffic flow then this project right here. 01:13:13
It is time for the people to speak up. 01:13:18
We have a nightmare there, we all know it. 01:13:20
We all know it, the change in zoning. 01:13:24
Is wrong. 01:13:26
Is wrong. Saying pedestrian traffic can crossover Vincent's road is crazy. 01:13:28
Somebody's gonna die. 01:13:33
I drive that bus through there twice a day and it is a nightmare. 01:13:35
Now I need that. 01:13:39
Were certified letters. 01:13:40
Sent out for this yet? 01:13:42
For affected property owners in here. 01:13:44
No, we're just OK. 01:13:46
You want that? You want me to answer that? 01:13:48
Yeah, go ahead. OK. Have they been sent out? 01:13:50
Yes, they have. 01:13:53
Yes. 01:13:55
Just us. 01:13:57
Personally, pardon me, was there a list? The reason I ask is this in the past? 01:13:59
You see, they were sent out. I can take the past 10 years. 01:14:04
I was always included because if you go too deep on that. 01:14:07
Especially because of the drainage problem. 01:14:11
I want to see. 01:14:14
Really tough drainage plan. 01:14:16
I want to see it. 01:14:19
You held it up. 01:14:21
On the on the. 01:14:22
Project before over there. 01:14:25
The Highlands. 01:14:27
And this here, I catch 8, I catch 90% of this. You all know that everybody knows. 01:14:29
But I don't want to see a change in zoning here. 01:14:34
We have enough problems on Old Vincent's Road. 01:14:37
Here's a great example very quickly. 01:14:41
22 Prosser buses leave Floyd Central at. 01:14:44
7:30. 01:14:48
In the morning. 01:14:50
They have to fight to get the OH Vincent Rd. They have to fight to get 150 interchange. By the time they get them through 01:14:52
Charlestown Road and down to Prosser, it's time to bring them home. Education is slipping in this county because of them. 01:14:59
Things like that. Right now I asked for a. 01:15:06
Negative. 01:15:09
Recommendation for this? 01:15:11
No more traffic. 01:15:12
No more building in that area. 01:15:15
Thank you, Mr. 01:15:16
Your name and address please. 01:15:21
Names Andrew Gromac. I live at 8042 Tribal Rd. in the islands UMM. 01:15:23
Evening Commission Board, Real quick, I have a question for you. I just moved here from Arizona in August. 01:15:28
Are you guys elected officials? 01:15:34
Or just how does that work? Everybody at this table is appointed except. 01:15:36
Point on this board. 01:15:42
On this board is appointed OK, OK, so you're not this general right here you want to buy the he's appointed. 01:15:43
OK. Yes, Sir. Well, the reason I bring that up is. 01:15:49
As of. 01:15:51
Just before this meeting, if you go to Change.org, there is 1017 signatures. 01:15:52
From this area that are opposed to this development plan. 01:15:58
Coming from Arizona, where I live is the 4th largest metropolitan area in the United States right now. 01:16:04
I moved in an area that was. 01:16:09
Semi rural. 01:16:11
And watch apartment buildings go up around my my house year after year after year. Over 15 years went from non. 01:16:12
No crime at all. 01:16:20
To prime rampant throughout my area. 01:16:21
The average rent in my neighborhood in the Highlands, I'd have to say is anywhere from. 01:16:25
Mortgage is 2500 to mine is just a little over 3000. 01:16:30
When you're putting. 01:16:34
Apartments up here. 01:16:36
These people don't have any skin in the game. They don't own the area that will own their apartments. They don't have any 01:16:38
incentive to take care of the area. 01:16:41
So besides the traffic, that's already been discussed. 01:16:45
And everything else. 01:16:48
I'm politely asking. 01:16:49
The board to vote nay on this as well. 01:16:51
I'm telling you guys that. 01:16:54
The Knobs area moved in here because it's rural enough. 01:16:55
Where it's semi big city but not big city. You start doing this, the domino effect is going to happen and I promise you guys 01:16:58
you're not going to like the outcome. 01:17:02
Thank you. Thank you, Sir. 01:17:05
Restate your name and address for the address. 01:17:11
It's a good thing we're all here right now, because we'd all be stuck at the light at 1:50 for another 5 or 6 more turns if we 01:17:15
were all heading home right now. 01:17:20
I don't trust a word that the theemans say. If anybody knows what has happened, up it. 01:17:25
Heritage Springs neighborhood that he was able to swindle a Dollar General and duplexes. 01:17:30
After his plans already went through. 01:17:35
I know the neighborhood. 01:17:38
Residents tried to fight him on that and somehow he had wording that. 01:17:39
Was able to get through and so that. 01:17:43
Didn't workout well for them. 01:17:45
I have more concern with my schools. 01:17:47
My kids and I have all gone through Naomi Blue County Schools. We had the largest middle school in the state of Indiana, which is 01:17:50
not a record I would like to hold. 01:17:54
Because it's way too many kids. 01:17:59
There's not a cap size on classrooms in the state of Indiana, which is also a problem to me because I'm pretty sure the fire 01:18:02
department should have one. 01:18:05
But you putting in all of these? 01:18:10
Residential apartments is going to just. 01:18:12
Ruin. I asked. 01:18:16
Ruin the class sizes for one. I mean, the teachers are already capped, they can't handle anymore. 01:18:18
The kids can't get through lunch lines. 01:18:23
Because they are in the longest lunch line ever, they can't sit there and eat. Your kids will come home and tell you that they 01:18:25
didn't get to eat lunch today because the line was so long. The buses are so full. 01:18:31
You've been into JC or tried to get something at the pharmacy. You're in a 40 minute line trying to cash out. 01:18:38
And get your prescriptions picked up because the grocery store can't handle the population that's already there. 01:18:44
So it's not just about the traffic, it's about the schools, it's about the community that we've tried to keep. 01:18:50
And businesses maybe would be OK in that space. 01:18:57
But that many apartments is just a ridiculous amount of people moving into our area. 01:19:01
And you can say you did a traffic study. 01:19:07
I don't believe it at all. 01:19:10
And then there's word that you're not going to let they're going to change the traffic pattern to where you can't go straight 01:19:11
across Walgreens. 01:19:15
Across 150 that they're going to change it to turn and go up. 01:19:20
To your girls Rd. up to 1 old Vincennes the other way and have to try. 01:19:23
Turn around. That makes no sense, but I heard that today from Qatar construction people. 01:19:27
So. 01:19:32
Obviously not in favor of this and I think more. 01:19:34
My kids school. 01:19:37
Than anything at this point. 01:19:38
Thank you. Thank you, Taylor. 01:19:40
I am speaking in the proper time now. My name is Aaron Jones, 8047 Trevor Rd. 01:19:47
There are individuals that approach me that have been unable to sign this petition for one reason or another, whether they do not 01:19:53
have. 01:19:56
This dude or did not want to, but similar number here. 01:19:59
So I just want to state that. 01:20:02
But I'll say that. 01:20:04
From where I where I moved from? 01:20:05
We are very familiar with this issue. 01:20:07
I worked very hard to be here. 01:20:09
I did my research. I looked at the zoning. I looked at hydrology. I looked at traffic studies. I studied. 01:20:12
I believed in this community. 01:20:18
I truly did. I wanted to be here. I chose to be here. 01:20:19
I worked my **** off to be. 01:20:22
So my family would happen. 01:20:24
Access to better opportunities than I did. 01:20:25
Coming from Jefferson County, they built. 01:20:28
This low income, luxury whatever apartments everywhere around me within the South end of Louisville. 01:20:30
And you can see how well that's going for them. 01:20:35
And how the problems that they have. And I ask you, do you want to be like Louisville? I have faith in you all. 01:20:37
I feel like we can be better than Louisville. I'm not saying we are better, I'm just saying that. 01:20:43
Our government. 01:20:46
Can work better than rules because we can all see how the government is working. We do not want to be like Louisville. I am a 01:20:47
refugee. 01:20:50
I literally. 01:20:54
Don't want to be back right where I was. 01:20:55
And once this goes through, it's gonna set precedent work to keep happening and we do not want to devalue our area, whether that 01:20:58
be New Albany here there. 01:21:02
We have something beautiful that works. We can make it work. 01:21:06
But if we. 01:21:10
Changing areas that don't need changing. 01:21:11
In ways that. 01:21:13
We don't support. 01:21:14
It doesn't make sense. 01:21:15
He could put this anywhere. This is 6 acres. There are other parcels. 01:21:17
And this is zoned. 01:21:21
In a way that does not support this. 01:21:23
So. 01:21:25
I don't know why this is an argument. 01:21:26
I know he has every right. I think I believe in the free market. I only tell him he can't tell what he wants to. 01:21:28
But I believe in the zoning. That's why I bought my house. 01:21:32
It's commercial. I don't have to worry about this. 01:21:35
But now I'm in the same boat. 01:21:38
That's just. 01:21:40
I'm sorry that is. 01:21:41
It is sickening to me. 01:21:43
I'm Scott Sugar, I live at 6378 old Vincennes Rd. 01:21:52
I retired up here from the Army as a engineer officer. 01:21:57
I am going to touch on a little bit of what some of the other people. 01:22:01
And spoke about. 01:22:04
But really what I'm going to do is I'm going to ask some questions that I think every. 01:22:06
One for the traffic study. 01:22:11
Everyone that drives that area goes through those intersections. 01:22:13
At 1:50 no Vincents. 01:22:16
They know what chaos it is at certain times of day. 01:22:18
For a lot of people it is a stressful. 01:22:21
Event just going through. 01:22:23
That intersection. 01:22:25
Making it past Highlander Point headed down to the school. 01:22:27
The other thing I want everybody. 01:22:30
School buses go through there every day. 01:22:32
And. 01:22:37
Everybody who has a student down there at Highland Hills. 01:22:39
Or at Void Central. 01:22:42
Every day we get calls about the school bus situation. 01:22:44
Routes canceled. 01:22:48
This and. 01:22:49
And it's usually two to three a day, honestly. 01:22:50
So that's one challenge. 01:22:52
And this will impact. 01:22:54
The challenges that. 01:22:56
The Floyd County school system has. 01:22:58
With uh. 01:23:00
School traffic, School bus traffic, getting kids to school sometimes. 01:23:01
It's a safety concern. 01:23:05
The question I have is with that traffic study. 01:23:07
Did they account in that traffic study for all the other construction that's going to be going on? 01:23:10
Up just north of. 01:23:15
The JC. 01:23:17
Because. 01:23:21
You put this in, it's already going to overtax. 01:23:23
A stressful area right there. 01:23:27
That intersection. 01:23:29
Put even more construction in if there's already plans. 01:23:30
Multi Housing. 01:23:34
North of the JC? What kind of impact? 01:23:36
And a half of that intersection. 01:23:38
When we put the stop light in there. 01:23:41
That's already going to happen. 01:23:44
Act regardless of where you put this, intersect this. 01:23:46
Complex in there or not, it's already going to change the dynamic of that in the flow. 01:23:49
Off that intersection area and it's going to make more challenge to get through. 01:23:54
I think it's a bad idea. 01:23:59
To put. 01:24:02
This specific. 01:24:03
The housing. 01:24:07
And have this many people in this area. 01:24:09
Just simply because it's. 01:24:13
Challenges it's going to have on those intersections. 01:24:14
And I know. 01:24:18
You know, we all look at growth in the area. 01:24:19
We know what's coming. 01:24:21
But we've got to fix the plan for it. 01:24:23
I don't think that this meets the test as far as effectively. 01:24:26
That's just my thank you. 01:24:32
My name is Clyde Harrelson. I live off of Buck Creek, so I'm a. 01:24:39
Couple miles from the place. 01:24:42
But I shot that area. I shot the bank. 01:24:44
Why do we need apartments in an area? 01:24:47
That has no apartments in it whatsoever. 01:24:50
And my main complaint that you all could use or the main complaint you could use is the parking. 01:24:52
Who has 1.8 vehicles in a home? 01:24:57
They're going to have two-bedroom apartments in there, 45 of them. 01:25:00
They'll have at least two cars, if not 3. 01:25:04
We went from three cars to two. 01:25:07
Just recently, but prior to that, we've always had three vehicles in our family. 01:25:09
And I think for no other reason, the parking. 01:25:13
Should turn this down if they put in a bank where there's a. 01:25:16
Three banks across the street. 01:25:19
Why do we need another bank here? 01:25:21
They're just they don't want to make the parking. 01:25:24
Fit that place because they're not going to make as much money. 01:25:26
But if they need to drop that another 50. 01:25:30
Units just to make the parking fee. 01:25:33
Clyde, sorry, before you leave, what's your address please? 01:25:36
4059 Tanglewood Dr. 01:25:39
South of Buck Creek. 01:25:41
All right. Thank you. Glad. 01:25:43
OK, great. Ladies first. 01:25:46
Theresa Temple, 3 to 5 Tuscany Drive. 01:25:49
Boys knobs. 01:25:52
You turn down Don's. 01:25:55
Approval for apartment staff in 2014, did you not? 01:25:57
And he offered. 01:26:00
To build our homes. 01:26:02
55 and older. 01:26:03
Didn't workout. 01:26:05
Now it's all families, which is fine. 01:26:06
They're supposed to be single family dwellings. Ends up being. 01:26:08
One family that has three families living in it. 01:26:12
And then the drainage. 01:26:15
Back behind where you got. 01:26:16
The 301 start with 301. 01:26:19
All the way down past where Donnie lives because he lives in our subdivision. 01:26:22
All that drainage back there, their yards are all wet all the time. 01:26:26
They're never, they're never dry. 01:26:30
Florence Hampton had to pick up. 01:26:32
All her flips. 01:26:34
Stuff in the backyard because it wouldn't have them and stick or grow. 01:26:36
Anyway, you're turning down in 2014 for apartments. 01:26:39
Turning down again, I like Donnie. 01:26:41
He builds a really good homes. 01:26:44
In our subdivision. 01:26:46
And he hasn't finished what he needs to do. 01:26:48
And we know that the grocery store will have a small JC store if you all well know. 01:26:50
Now it can't. It can't accommodate all these people. 01:26:55
You know. 01:26:58
Make a strip mall like he promised. He said he was going to do our a medical stability or something to that effect. But apartments 01:26:59
are only going to cause more crime. You know, one of the things the Floyd County Sheriff's told me. 01:27:04
That our subdivision was one of the safest subdivisions. 01:27:09
Because Tuscany draft. 01:27:13
Was one way in and one way out. 01:27:14
Do you not agree with that? 01:27:17
And now you're getting. 01:27:19
All these intersections. 01:27:20
Criminals are coming across the bridge. 01:27:22
Coming in all of our subdivisions. 01:27:24
Because they've got all these little exits to go through. 01:27:26
Yeah, I'm not right. 01:27:29
I mean, it's true. 01:27:31
And we've had several cars broken into even in our subject. 01:27:32
Donnie's head stuff stolen from his subdivision, but. 01:27:35
You know, you just can't keep building all this. 01:27:39
Apartments and it's just gonna bring our. 01:27:41
Our values down. 01:27:44
And we don't want to. We just don't want it. 01:27:45
All right. Thank you. 01:27:47
We got we got a minute left. Go ahead, Sir. 01:27:52
My name is Spencer Worth and I live at 8040 Schriever. 01:27:54
You don't have to. 01:27:57
Forgive me for my quick talk, my quick speaking. 01:27:58
I agree with many of the points brought up by those behind me. 01:28:01
But one thing that I feel like hasn't been brought up is, or at least expounded upon, is the parking. 01:28:04
So if if the parking is not enough is not 2 1/2 per unit which my wife and I. 01:28:09
Have never had less than two cars. 01:28:15
Since we've been married. 01:28:17
Where are these industry cars going to go? 01:28:18
They're gonna be parking in these neighborhoods next door. 01:28:20
And people are that we don't know people who ties the community. 01:28:22
Are we walking through our neighborhoods back and forth? 01:28:26
And we have no recourse whatsoever. 01:28:28
Thank you. 01:28:30
Thank you. 01:28:31
All right, that closes this this portion if the applicant would like to come up. 01:28:34
And rebut what was spoken about. 01:28:39
You've got 5 minutes. 01:28:44
I'll speak very quickly. Just a couple things to deal with. I'm sorry, just a second. 01:28:47
Make sure nobody. 01:28:53
Yeah, we got opened up for down. Sorry. We just need to make sure to wait downstairs because the elevators out. 01:28:54
Do we have anybody downstairs? 01:29:00
In opposition? No, Sir. All right. Thank you. No, Sir. 01:29:02
Now you go. Thank you. Very, very quickly, a couple things that Mister Emerson brought up and I think it's important to address 1 01:29:06
primarily deals with. 01:29:11
The issue pertaining to. 01:29:17
Sidewalks, things of that nature and homeowners association keep in mind under the terms of the restrictive covenants with govern 01:29:19
that. 01:29:23
Homeowners association is not going to be formed till the last light sells. That's in their restrictions. The other piece of it 01:29:28
tends to be there is a non remonstrance clause in each of their subdivision restrictions specifically indicates that they would 01:29:32
not. 01:29:37
Opposed any type of development that Mister Athena would do on adjacent property. 01:29:42
Please let let him speak. It's unclear. 01:29:51
And there is a non remonstrance clause in that and they all took title subject to that. 01:29:53
A couple other items I think are important. Dealing with one gentleman that said he just moved up there, he moved into the 01:29:58
Highlands, which is the brand new subdivision, residential and he wanted rural. So again, I take a little exception to that. 01:30:05
The other piece that I think is important is. 01:30:12
The wide Shriver Road and the issue with regards to the traffic study. 01:30:15
It was done, and Mr. Copper Weight will probably talk about this as well, but it was done in anticipation of all of those. 01:30:19
Existing. 01:30:26
Developments as well as those that are already on the books as well as looking at this. So it's not a matter that they forgot 01:30:28
something. All of those developments were taken into consideration when they did that. 01:30:34
I'll let Jason speak on several of the other issues, but again, keep in mind that the restrictive governance primarily deal with 01:30:40
when that homeowners association is turned over and likewise when the sidewalks are finished when all of them lots of. 01:30:46
I do want to hit on the traffic study. Number one. It used to be that the developer would hire a traffic engineer to do the 01:30:55
traffic study. That is no longer the case. It is the county that hires the traffic engineer. So the developer has no influence 01:31:00
over the over the traffic study or the traffic engineer. 01:31:05
When they did their study at that I reviewed they did take into account all of the. 01:31:11
There's Gray woods just to the north of Highlander Point. There's a there was a patio home. 01:31:15
There were some proposals that were across Open Sins Rd. 01:31:21
There were some other things going on in the air. They took all that into account. 01:31:25
And of course, the traffic study reflects that the light is in place. 01:31:28
The lights not in place today. 01:31:31
We acknowledge that there are traffic issues there today. 01:31:33
But when the county finishes constructing that light, it's going to be a whole lot better, and the traffic study shows that. 01:31:36
Regarding drainage, I touched on that already. 01:31:45
Again, you have the most strict drainage ordinance in the region. 01:31:48
I think that's it, unless you have any questions. 01:31:52
Oh, wait, one more thing. I'm sorry. 01:31:57
Under the general commercial zone, your maximum impervious area is 70%. 01:31:59
Under the MF at 65%. 01:32:04
Under our PUD plan, it is less than 70%. 01:32:06
So we're going to be better on drainage just as a baseline. 01:32:09
Yeah, last individual be Daniel Moriarty. Daniel did the. 01:32:13
Project the design on it. Likewise, he's going to address some of the issues pertaining to the very same project that he's done 01:32:18
throughout Indianapolis area as well as other parts of the state. 01:32:23
State your name and address please. 01:32:28
3628. 01:32:30
Place in Carmel. 01:32:32
And obviously I'm not local so I can't speak to traffic issues and things are going on but. 01:32:33
I will say they do a lot of these projects around the. 01:32:39
Right bargains, though. 01:32:41
Westville. 01:32:42
South Bend, Fort Wayne, Bluffton. 01:32:44
All all around the state. 01:32:47
Always the same issues. 01:32:49
But the things I consistently see. 01:32:50
Number ones, we said traffic. 01:32:53
This there's. 01:32:55
Things are gonna happen. 01:32:56
This ground, regardless of what happens, time, right, something is going to be built by right. 01:32:57
That's not going to stop the traffic. 01:33:02
No matter what it is, it's gonna. 01:33:04
So if there's traffic issues in the area. 01:33:06
Those who are not my opinion, not the responsibility of this landowner to solve the. 01:33:08
For the county. 01:33:14
I mean that this developed something happening on this property. 01:33:15
Is something that. 01:33:19
Just. 01:33:21
Regardless of what it is, they're still going to be, it sounds like. 01:33:22
I'm not here for everybody. The issues. 01:33:25
So that was one thing. Secondly, I've got six kids, all six of living apartments. 01:33:28
Only once been arrested. 01:33:32
He lives at home with me right now. 01:33:33
So, umm. 01:33:35
There's no. 01:33:36
Evidence, at least in it. 01:33:37
Brand new development. This is a very high quality development and again I was working with a lot of people around the state. 01:33:39
The one thing about that the ambulance has been very refreshing. 01:33:45
There's a level of quality that they brought to this development. 01:33:48
Is very much higher. 01:33:51
Than what I hear from. 01:33:52
Every other builder on the state. 01:33:54
I'm not, I'm not just saying. 01:33:55
That's true. So. 01:33:57
So what happens? 01:33:58
Rent levels are such. 01:33:59
That if you want to say. 01:34:01
At least, and I'm sure some people know a lot better than I do, but I don't believe that just. 01:34:03
Those higher rent values necessarily bring crime with them. 01:34:07
The other thing is the missing middle missing gap. 01:34:12
For someone said there's no apartments in the area. 01:34:14
Well, kids need apartments. Younger people need apartments to make the transition from school where they had. 01:34:17
Ones to eventually have. 01:34:23
And if you don't have that high quality piece within your community? 01:34:25
Again, just watching it elsewhere. 01:34:30
That's that's it. That's. 01:34:32
Thank you very much. 01:34:35
Thank you. 01:34:36
No, Sir, you can't. I'm sorry. 01:34:40
I don't make the rules I thought. I try to follow them, Sir. 01:34:43
OK. 01:34:47
At that point, we're done with the petitions rebuttal. At this time, we're looking for ballots. 01:34:49
Unless you all have any questions. Unless you have any questions. 01:34:57
Questions. 01:35:00
Today, understand what our information is as far as. 01:35:03
Go ahead. I'd just like to make a couple notes. I know there was concern that they did not receive certified mail. 01:35:14
The the requirement for that is 2 lots. 01:35:21
Adjacent. 01:35:24
From the project site, so if you did not receive the mail. 01:35:25
Within 22 lots of that site. 01:35:31
It was sent. 01:35:34
We do have the the green cards to verify that. 01:35:35
Regarding the traffic pattern that was brought up. 01:35:39
In dot controls the old Vincennes at 150 intersection and they do have plans to. 01:35:43
With projects to correct the issue at that. 01:35:50
That's about $7,000,000 I think what the project came in the. 01:35:54
Schreiber Road and Old Vincent's light construction is set to start. 01:36:00
Beginning of March for that project. 01:36:05
And. 01:36:09
The traffic study does account for all the other developments proposed in the area. 01:36:11
The sheriff was a part of the TRC meeting. 01:36:17
And noted that he had no concerns with public safety standpoint from this project. 01:36:20
All right. Does anybody have any other questions for Nick, please? 01:36:26
Hold it. 01:36:31
No. 01:36:34
There is a process that they are following. 01:36:36
Go ahead, Nick. 01:36:40
No, I had a question if Nick could also elaborate to. 01:36:42
To the audience there. 01:36:46
That there's also projects. 01:36:50
On the table right now. 01:36:52
Right behind Jacques and a light that's going in on 150 between Luther and. 01:36:55
Open Sense. 01:37:02
You're gonna, you're just gonna stop. As soon as you come off the Interstate, you're gonna stop. 01:37:04
123. 01:37:09
4-5. 01:37:12
Six times between there and Napleton Rd. 01:37:13
Well. 01:37:21
They're working on. 01:37:22
It's it's happening right now. There is a. 01:37:23
Study. 01:37:27
We have submitted an RFP for preliminary engineering for a light between. 01:37:28
Lutheran old consens for a connection. 01:37:34
To the Highlander Point area in there. 01:37:37
And one final note. 01:37:41
This property is currently zoned General Commercial. 01:37:42
Traffic for general commercial uses. 01:37:46
Are typically higher than. 01:37:49
Multifamily or any other residential use. 01:37:51
So. 01:37:54
What would be allowed by right? 01:37:55
Could likely have a greater impact on the traffic than what this proposal would suggest. 01:37:57
Right. 01:38:03
All right, all right. 01:38:05
May have to ask people to just. 01:38:08
All right. At this time, no other board questions. 01:38:16
OK. 01:38:20
Nick, you want to? 01:38:22
Nick, you want you want to just go through the process just one more time on the agenda items as far as. 01:38:27
Which one of these items is? 01:38:33
The options of the board so they. 01:38:36
Clearly understand so the rezoning requests in the PUD rezone. 01:38:38
Our recommendations to the. 01:38:43
County commissioners. 01:38:46
So that just sorry, I want to make sure. I think they want a little direction too. So that would be your docket item ending in O2. 01:38:48
And that's the rezone. 01:38:54
And your docket item ending in 04 is your put correct? 01:38:56
Go ahead. And 03 is the major subdivision. 01:39:01
Huh. And then docket item 05 is the detailed development plan. 01:39:04
Associated with the. 01:39:08
OK. 01:39:10
OK, everybody. 01:39:12
Claire So in, two in. 01:39:14
For both favorable, unfavorable or no recommendation. 01:39:16
And then the other two ending in three and five would be granting or denying. 01:39:21
Any questions on those and? 01:39:28
One ballot at a time. So you're going to start with the O2, start with O2. 01:39:30
All right, we need a ballot from somebody, please. Docket FC01-25-02, Petitioner, theme and group. 01:39:34
Decision. 01:39:41
After careful review, the Floyd County Planning Commission finds that one. 01:39:42
Rezoning of subject property is consistent with Floyd County Comprehensive Plan. 01:39:47
Because the Conflict County Comprehensive Plan identifies the area. 01:39:52
As commercial growth area. 01:39:55
Rose planned unit development will be. 01:39:57
Mixed-use featuring a commercial element nearest to Old Vincent's Road. 01:40:00
Additionally, rezoning is consistent with. 01:40:05
Smart growth principles identified in the pan. 01:40:07
Specifically, mixed land uses compact building design. 01:40:10
Creating a range of housing opportunities. 01:40:13
Directing development towards existing communities and preserving open space, farmland, natural beauty and critical environment 01:40:16
areas. 01:40:19
As this is an infill development. 01:40:23
#2. 01:40:25
The rezoning of subject property is consistent with the current conditions. 01:40:27
And the character of the current structures and uses in the area because commercial uses. 01:40:30
At the front of the. 01:40:35
The lot are consistent with the original general commercial zoning. 01:40:36
The multiplication. 01:40:40
The multifamily uses are appropriate. 01:40:43
Transitional uses between general commercial and urban residential uses. 01:40:46
Building facade materials are to be brick and Hardy board. 01:40:51
Structures are within the height limits. 01:40:54
Of the Flower County zoning ordinance. 01:40:56
And there there is another three story building in the vicinity. 01:40:59
#3 The rezoning of subject property is necessary for the most desirable use of the land. 01:41:03
Because the rezoning follows smart growth principles already noted. 01:41:08
It also provides additional housing identified as needed in the Purdue Housing Report. 01:41:12
The county had completed in 2020. 01:41:17
Is a mixed-use infill development. 01:41:19
In the commercial growth area? 01:41:22
#4 the rezoning of subject property. 01:41:23
Will not be interest to the value of other properties in the area. 01:41:26
Because commercial uses are consistent with general commercial zoning and appropriate adjacent to residential urban zoning and 01:41:30
uses. 01:41:33
The addition of a multi family component will support local business customer base. 01:41:37
The development will increase the value. 01:41:42
Of the lot itself and is expected to have positive impacts. 01:41:45
On neighboring commercial lots. 01:41:48
The buffer yard alone. 01:41:50
Adjacent residential lots are provided to the West. Additional buffering is recommended for the properties on the South. 01:41:52
The rezoning of subject property will support. 01:41:59
Responsible growth and development in the area. 01:42:02
Rezoning follows the objectives of smart growth outlined in the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan. 01:42:04
Higher density development is directed towards existing infrastructure. 01:42:10
Provider Provider letters indicate ability to serve the development is in. 01:42:14
The identified commercial growth area and is in the infill development. 01:42:20
Upon careful review, the Floyd County Penny Commission hereby makes a favorable recommendation. 01:42:24
On the petitioner zoning. 01:42:30
Amendment application at the meeting held on the 10th of February 2025. 01:42:32
A favorable recommendation is based on the following written commencement. 01:42:37
Buffer Yard 2 standards will be met on all adjoining residential properties. 01:42:41
Trick #2 Drainage will be Floyd County storm water standards as approved by the Storm Water Board. 01:42:46
#3A phase lot 1 will be developed first and a schedule of completion for the project will be provided by the applicant. 01:42:52
That completes my ballot. 01:42:59
OK, we have a ballot. I need a second. 01:43:02
No second. 01:43:25
That I need a ballot. 01:43:27
By somebody that's not approving this ballot. 01:43:29
You need to fill one out. 01:43:31
I can't do it. 01:43:33
What was the question? 01:43:42
Mr. Vice President. 01:43:44
Somebody need somebody will need to complete a ballot. 01:43:49
Otherwise you can have discussion on the first one if you want to at this point. 01:43:58
Go from there. 01:44:03
But. 01:44:04
Nations from out for conversations. 01:44:10
Yeah. I mean, you guys can discuss it. You can. 01:44:13
The only thing that would not require bouts unfavorable recommend or sorry, no recommendation that would not have a ballot with 01:44:16
us. 01:44:19
It's favorable, unfavorable, or no recommendation. 01:44:24
I was listening correct because you wouldn't have a ballot with no recommendation. 01:44:28
OK, so somebody makes needs to make a motion. 01:44:33
That's the path that somebody wants, OK? 01:44:36
So I think once again, that's why we kind of went through and explained so. 01:44:38
Obviously, Mr. Bible Hauser has a ballot with a favorable. 01:44:41
We either need somebody with an unfavorable or no recommendation at all. 01:44:45
Unfavorable takes a ballot. No recommendation would not be a ballot, so no recommendation does not take about. 01:44:51
I'll make a motion for no recommendation to the Board Commission. 01:44:57
Could place place. Please respect what we're trying to get accomplished here. I beg you. 01:45:01
If you cannot be quiet, you need to leave the room please. Thank you. 01:45:07
OK, so I have I have a motion for no recommendation correct? 01:45:11
I need a second. 01:45:16
I need a second. 01:45:24
I will second that motion. 01:45:26
OK, have a second. 01:45:27
Any discussion? 01:45:29
Yeah, I'm just not qualified to do this unfavorable ballot. I'm. 01:45:31
Totally opposed to this. I don't know why we're making an adjustment to this zoning to our. 01:45:35
Residents of that area. 01:45:40
But to put me to. 01:45:46
Could do this ballot. I'm just not qualified. I mean, it's so detailed, so complex, just what they went through. 01:45:48
I think it's a process. OK. So do you want to fill out an unfavorable? 01:45:55
Not or you want to vote for. 01:46:01
No recommendation. 01:46:03
Maybe if we can re. 01:46:04
Revisit this another meeting, give me time to prepare for it. That's not possible. We've got three options and we're going to 01:46:06
leave the room with 1/3 so. 01:46:10
I'm not qualified to do this. 01:46:13
Unfavorable. Sort of. 01:46:17
I have a motion. I have a second. 01:46:18
We had discussion all in favor. 01:46:20
Signify for I. 01:46:22
Aye, aye. 01:46:24
There's three. That's for no recommendation at all. 01:46:26
So you had three, so you do not have enough to support a no recommendation. So there needs to be a ballot. 01:46:31
That is prepared or a. 01:46:36
Vote in favor. You have to have a majority vote. 01:46:38
Call again. So no recommendation. 01:46:45
Everybody understands what's going on there. That goes to the ministers, they make the decision so. 01:46:48
You could make an unfavorable. 01:46:53
And vote unanimous. All that still goes to the Commission. 01:46:55
Makes the commissioners make the decision so. 01:46:58
In order to for us to finish this meeting tonight, we have to have a vote. 01:47:01
So can I put it up for one more time? 01:47:06
Somebody else can make a motion, yes. 01:47:09
Can I review this? I mean how complex is this? 01:47:12
I know I'm not qualified, but I mean, can we just put up a? 01:47:15
Vote unfavorable how details is going to be you have. 01:47:19
Ballot and bring your motion with. 01:47:22
Your ballot. 01:47:25
But you can take time to fill out and do, but it does. 01:47:27
Be brought and then a second to that. 01:47:29
Vote on that ballot. 01:47:32
Not an answer question. We're we. 01:47:35
We're not supposed to answer questions, but hold on a second. 01:47:52
Once again, what we're trying to do here is we've got favorable, unfavorable. 01:47:55
Or no recommendation. So that's what we're trying to get through right now, so. 01:47:59
Let it give us time to get through this place. 01:48:02
Yes. All right, I'll make a motion is. 01:48:06
I'll make a motion and no recommendation. 01:48:10
I'll second. 01:48:13
We have a second. 01:48:15
Any other discussion? 01:48:16
All in favor. 01:48:18
For no recommendation signify by aye. 01:48:19
Ah, those opposed. 01:48:23
All right, all right. 01:48:24
OK, so it's two, it passes. 01:48:26
Good. Five, Yeah, OK. 01:48:28
So it's going to the Commission with no recommendation. So I'll get to visit Michelle. Let me let me show a hands who said yes. 01:48:30
No recommendations. No recommendation? Sure. 01:48:37
12345 So we've got enough, correct that is correct. 01:48:39
So that passes. 01:48:44
OK, so now agenda item. 01:48:45
Number. 01:48:48
4/3 right? 01:48:51
Excuse me, Sir. What? 01:48:55
We all right, go ahead. 01:48:57
I'm looking for a ballot. 01:49:00
For agenda item number. 01:49:01
433. 01:49:05
3 Umm. 01:49:07
Even though we got no recommendation here, you still want to all tied together. That's what I Nick, have you. Yeah. 01:49:08
Make a contingent on commissioners approval. 01:49:20
Yeah, I mean. 01:49:22
Well, the the subdivisions. 01:49:26
Ministerial. 01:49:28
Correct. 01:49:29
So if the Mr. standards, then you. 01:49:31
Child permit. So for that work they want to table it. 01:49:33
If the applicant wishes to table until commissioners make a decision, otherwise you guys would, it would be up to you and it's 01:49:39
ministerial, so if they meet all the requirements it has to be approved. 01:49:43
With you can make a condition contingent on the commissioners approval of the rezone, though obviously other than that if they 01:49:48
meet the requirements of the zoning ordinance it has to be approved. 01:49:52
The question is just do you want to table it until a decision is made by the commissioners or do you want a do you want the board 01:50:01
to go ahead and vote on it this evening? 01:50:05
OK. 01:50:09
So that you guys are left with the ballot for that. 01:50:10
Which is agenda item 4 but. 01:50:15
Docket ending in 03 is a grant or deny that subdivision. 01:50:17
Again, is ministerial in nature as long as they meet the zoning ordinance. 01:50:21
With that though, I would. 01:50:24
Recommend subject subject to the Commissioners approval. 01:50:26
Zoning change which is reference that docket number, I think will be helpful. 01:50:30
OK. So just for everybody on the board, if you get a ballot that's in favor of this? 01:50:34
We put us, we put a condition on it. 01:50:39
That it's subject to the commissioners, correct? So if the commissioners don't approve that, then it would not be approved. All 01:50:42
right, so I need, I need a ballot for agenda item item number 4. 01:50:46
#4. 01:50:51
Well, it's agenda item 4. It's agenda item 4, Docket three. Yeah, Docket 3. 01:50:54
Docket FCO 1-25-03. 01:51:10
Number one, petitioner has met all the following requirements. 01:51:16
So he's met all the requirements for. 01:51:20
Preliminary plan provided. 01:51:24
Certification demonstrating idem. 01:51:26
Platt provided geotechnical report staff. 01:51:29
Traffic Study. 01:51:33
The lots working. 01:51:36
And compliance. 01:51:38
The streets. 01:51:40
Item I Streets are in compliance. J Sidewalks are in compliance #2 Petitioner has met. 01:51:41
The following requirements for drainage and storm water. 01:51:48
#3 The petitioner has provided a letter confirming. 01:51:52
Confirming availability and willingness to serve for all necessary utilities. Lloyd Water Company, Georgetown Fire Department. 01:51:56
Harrison REMC, New Albany Wastewater. 01:52:04
At T and Charter. 01:52:08
#4 Petitioner has met the following requirements for sewer and or septic. 01:52:10
Service for the development we provided by New Albany Wastewater. 01:52:14
Decision. 01:52:22
Upon careful review, the boy county. 01:52:25
Planning Commissioner right grants the petitioner. 01:52:27
Primary approval for a major subdivision at the meeting held on the 10th of February 2025. Primary approval is based on completion 01:52:30
of fine conditions. 01:52:35
Final Approval The drainage stormwater plans are required prior to secondary approval. 01:52:39
The number of apartments. 01:52:45
For this development shall not exceed 125 units. 01:52:47
And this. 01:52:53
This approval is subject to. 01:52:57
Contingent is contingent upon. 01:53:00
The the planning. 01:53:09
The commissioners approving the previous one, right? 01:53:12
FC is put down FC. 01:53:16
This is contingent upon. 01:53:18
FC01. 01:53:20
I will just hold on there, OK. 01:53:22
FCO One. 01:53:34
2502, that's right, yeah. 01:53:36
This is contingent upon the Commissioner's approval of FCO 1-25-02 that completes my ballot. 01:53:41
All right, we have a ballot. I need a any discussion. 01:53:49
I need a second. 01:53:53
I'll second. 01:53:54
We have a second. All in favor signify by aye. 01:53:55
All right, all right, let me see. A show of hands and said aye. 01:53:59
OK, let the record show that there was a majority more than 5. 01:54:03
That passes. 01:54:07
Once again, that is subject to the Commissioners approval. 01:54:10
Of the zoning map. 01:54:12
All right, you got agenda item number 5. 01:54:14
FC-01-25-04. 01:54:18
On this one, Nick, this would go from the multifamily to the PUD though, so I think at this time. 01:54:25
Would the applicant want to table that one? Because. 01:54:31
I mean, it wasn't. 01:54:35
Obviously the recommendation. There's no recommendation from. 01:54:36
Commercial to multifamily. 01:54:39
I still you have 8 will be back in the morning. 01:54:42
Unfavorable, OK. 01:54:47
OK. All right. 01:54:49
All right, so confirming that's OK with you so. 01:54:51
Is there any on a body on the board that wants to make no recommendation motion or is there a ballot from somebody? 01:54:53
Anybody. 01:55:02
Which one is this for? This is the one that. 01:55:04
PUD. 01:55:09
It's #4. 01:55:10
It's it's it's agenda file. 01:55:14
So your options again are favorable, unfavorable, both of those require ballots or no recommendation. 01:55:19
So, and this is on 04. 01:55:31
This is yes. 01:55:33
Huh. 01:55:37
The first part of this thing. 01:55:46
It's all up to you. 01:55:47
So all I have to say. 01:55:49
Officer, can't we start? 01:55:51
Multiple pages in correct? 01:55:53
Yes, page 4. 01:55:55
All right, all right, That's OK. 01:56:01
We have three options. 01:56:06
I know the proposed. 01:56:07
Planned unit development does very does significantly. 01:56:10
Does vary significant from the zoning and subdivision control regulation concerning density, parking and buffering? 01:56:14
Yard #1 #2. 01:56:20
The closed land use and the. 01:56:23
In the planned unit development. 01:56:25
Are not in conflict. 01:56:27
With spirit and the intent of the comprehensive. 01:56:29
Plants surrounding land use and zoning district. 01:56:32
#3 the proposed. 01:56:36
HUD does provide adequate public service like air traffic control. 01:56:38
Open and. 01:56:44
Common space and recreation. 01:56:45
#4. 01:56:48
The planned unit development is compatible with the adjacent properties and surrounding neighborhoods. 01:56:49
#5. 01:56:55
The proposed planned unit development will not interfere with the use or diminish the values of adjacent properties and 01:56:56
surrounding neighborhood. 01:57:00
Number six, the proposed planned unit development will not diminish the level of service. 01:57:04
For roadway systems in the vicinity. 01:57:09
#7. 01:57:12
The plan you development can't be immediately and adequately served by existing public facilities. 01:57:13
#8. 01:57:20
Planned unit development does preserve natural and historic resources to extent possible. 01:57:21
#9 The planned unit development will not be interest to the public health and safety and general welfare. 01:57:27
#10 The written commitments will be required. The applicant shall provide a schedule for phasing the construction of the project. 01:57:33
A schedule for the completion of all phases. 01:57:37
We'll provide it to the Planning Commission. 01:57:42
#11. 01:57:44
The petitioner will be. 01:57:46
Required. 01:57:48
To meet conditions. 01:57:49
Please specify those conditions a the number of apartments of development. 01:57:51
Shall not exceed 125 units. 01:57:56
Be for secondary approval, provide additional screening of dumpster on. 01:57:59
Dumpster. 01:58:03
On lot 1 between dumpsters and roadway provided light at entrance. 01:58:04
Locations where there are none. 01:58:10
Meet suffer buffer zone. 01:58:12
Buffer Yard 2 standards. 01:58:15
For adjoining residential youth on the South side. 01:58:17
With a ball. 01:58:21
That completes my appointment. That's not complete my brother. 01:58:25
I gotta read something over here. 01:58:29
Upon careful review, the Floyd County Planning Commission hereby. 01:58:31
Makes a favorable recommendation to the County Commissioner concerning the petitioner planned unit development at the beating held 01:58:34
on the 10th of February, 2025. 01:58:38
All right, we have a ballot. 01:58:44
Any discussion on that ballot? 01:58:46
I need a second. 01:58:48
I'll second. 01:58:51
We do have a second. 01:58:52
Any further discussion if none? 01:58:54
We need a vote all signify that agreed by aye. 01:58:57
Aye. 01:59:00
Those opposed. 01:59:02
Aye. 01:59:03
All right, well, let's say this show of hands and approve it. 01:59:04
Which one are you doing? 01:59:08
4. 01:59:10
Just making sure I heard you right. 01:59:11
1234. 01:59:13
OK. 01:59:15
All right. 01:59:16
So if we need somebody to do. 01:59:19
I will adjust. 01:59:22
Ballot. 01:59:24
To no recommendation. 01:59:25
So you're just bringing a motion for number? Yeah, it's not your ballot. 01:59:28
Well, it's on here to 2nd, make no recommendation. 01:59:31
Ending ending Commissioner approval. 01:59:35
Is is it just no recommendation or is it? 01:59:40
Automatically pending Commissioner approval. 01:59:43
It goes to commissioners regardless. 01:59:47
OK, I'll second that. 01:59:49
OK, so we have a motion for. 01:59:52
No recommendation. 01:59:55
Correct, and you're seconded. 01:59:57
Any discussion? 01:59:59
OK, all in favor, say bye. 02:00:01
Raise hands, please. So we got it on record. 02:00:03
OK, we do have 5 or above so that does pass. 02:00:06
All right. Thank you. 02:00:09
All right, it passes no recommendation. 02:00:12
All right, the last. 02:00:17
Is agenda item 6. 02:00:21
Which is FC. 02:00:24
01 Dash, 2505. 02:00:25
I thought that's what we just did. No, I didn't. 02:00:28
I don't know if that was the floor. Huh. It was all four. 02:00:31
It didn't read. 02:00:37
Yeah, 'cause that's. 02:00:41
Yeah, that should have signatures. 02:00:42
Because that should have that as a no recommendation, shouldn't have signatures on it, right? 02:00:47
That one does. 02:00:53
Hey, Nick. 02:00:55
I'm all confused at this point guys. 02:00:58
The 04 ballot has no recommendation but still has a ballot which? 02:01:02
Are you OK with that? 02:01:06
Yeah. 02:01:08
You vote, you voted on it. 02:01:10
Recommendation. 02:01:12
Do you have, do you have agenda item 5? Is that what you? Yeah, that's fine. That's still fine. 02:01:15
You just read Ballot. 02:01:22
Agenda item. 02:01:26
Agenda item 5 + 4. 02:01:28
Gotcha. OK. That was the one you just read. 02:01:30
You read it. 02:01:33
Where's it at? 02:01:35
That's when we just. That's what I just read. 02:01:37
Yeah, I don't think that's right. I'm confused. 02:01:41
Nick, you want help a second. 02:01:43
You skipped. 02:01:49
Is this right? 02:01:51
You have the first 3. 02:01:54
Here we go, you're saying? 02:01:57
You want an 05 now, right? Correct. 02:01:59
That's the one we're on now. 02:02:01
We have to. 02:02:07
Did we approve this one? 02:02:09
OK, so we're on. 02:02:11
That's right. 02:02:23
Do we need to finish signing that? 02:02:26
I need it and I'll move it on. 02:02:30
OK. All right. 02:02:35
So, so Nick on this development plan, I mean, if we're voting no recommendation on. 02:02:36
O2 and 04. 02:02:40
How? How do we How do we vote on it? 02:02:41
On both O2. 02:02:45
That's right. 02:02:47
Yeah, I got a sign. 02:02:49
I bet so that's good. 02:02:52
That's alright, you got it. I'm. 02:02:57
Hey, I'm good. 02:03:01
How do I know what I'm saying? 02:03:02
OK, the next we need a ballot for agenda item 6. 02:03:12
05. 02:03:17
FC-O125-505. 02:03:18
No, I just making sure that. 02:03:24
Where's my wife? 02:03:42
You guys. 02:03:48
This will be. 02:03:51
Subject to FC 01. 02:03:52
25. 02:03:56
Dash O2. 02:03:58
And 04104 1. 02:04:01
That's it, You got it. 02:04:11
And I still need some. 02:04:13
All right, do we have a ballot for Docket FCO 1-25-O5? 02:04:17
Conceptual site plan. 02:04:25
Review by planning director Yes. 02:04:27
Findings #1 Petitioner has met all the veterans standards. 02:04:29
For the district #2A waiver for the development standard. 02:04:33
Requirement is not required. 02:04:37
#3. 02:04:39
Proposed development plan is consistent with the Comprehensive plan because the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan identifies the 02:04:41
area as a commercial growth area. 02:04:45
The proposed planned unit development be mixed-use featuring a commercial element nearest the frontage additional rezoning 02:04:50
assistant with the smart growth principles. 02:04:54
Identified in the plan, specifically mixed land use. 02:04:59
Compact building design, creating a range of housing opportunities, directing development towards existing communities and 02:05:02
preserving open space. 02:05:06
And critical environmental areas as this is an infill development. 02:05:11
#4 The proposed development is consistent with the intent. 02:05:15
Of the district has set forth in Boyd County zoning ordinance because it is a multi family planned unit development district. 02:05:19
District which allows modifications to underlying district. 02:05:26
Standards #4 the proposed development plan. 02:05:29
Does satisfy. 02:05:32
The following development. 02:05:33
Requirements. 02:05:35
And there are. 02:05:36
A is signage, B is access, C is designed D lighting. 02:05:37
Number six, the proposed development is a multi family development development plan does satisfy the requirements for a 02:05:43
recreational space and open space by providing a pool and outdoor gaming area. 02:05:49
And is less than the 25 acres in Toll area. 02:05:55
#7 The proposed developments is located in the Highlander Point District. 02:05:58
The following requirements have been met. Building facades or brick. 02:06:02
And Harding board there are no loading docks, burden dumpsters located to the side and rear of the buildings. 02:06:06
A The building facades that face any adjacent streets have a finished facade. 02:06:12
Be loading docks and trash collector bins are not placed on or along the facade that face. 02:06:17
Any adjacent streets? 02:06:22
See the accommodation is. 02:06:25
Is made for community space where a proposal commercial development. 02:06:27
Has over 100,000 square feet. 02:06:32
Either in combination of buildings or lots and is. 02:06:34
A cohesive commercial project or development D. 02:06:38
Open space requirements for Section 904. The Fern. 02:06:41
Zoning ordinance are met. 02:06:44
Decision. This decision is contingent upon Commissioners approval. 02:06:46
Of SCO 12502 and FCO 1/25/04. 02:06:50
One careful review. The Floyd County Planning Commission hereby approves. 02:06:54
The Petition Development Plan review application at the meeting held on the 10th of February 2025. 02:06:58
Completes my ballot. 02:07:04
All right, we have a ballot. Everybody understands the conditions written on the ballot. 02:07:06
I need a second. 02:07:10
All right, I've got a second. 02:07:14
I would like to. 02:07:18
Note that. 02:07:19
This detailed improvement detailed. 02:07:21
Plan would be contingent upon the rezoning. 02:07:25
He said that. 02:07:29
Not only as a condition, but as a matter of. 02:07:31
Whether it is valid or not. 02:07:34
That's why I made a second. 02:07:37
There you go. So I have I do have a a second. 02:07:40
OK. 02:07:43
All right, all in favor signify by aye. 02:07:46
Aye, show of hands please, on the eyes. 02:07:49
OK, that is. 02:07:52
A majority. So that passes. Thank you, Larry. 02:07:53
All righty, Nick. 02:07:57
Includes the. 02:07:58
Agenda items other than we had something on here about the overlay. 02:08:00
Can we, can we push, push that down the road? 02:08:04
Please I need to. 02:08:07
I really need to. 02:08:10
I need to. I gotta be honest with you. 02:08:12
OK, OK, let's get these signed before we adjourn. 02:08:16
Because that is. 02:08:19
That is no old business, new business. 02:08:21
Complete for tonight. 02:08:24
Appreciate advice, patience. 02:08:26
Need a motion for adjourned. Yeah, don't, don't leave till you sign though. I need a motion to adjourn motion. 02:08:29
OK, any a second so moved. 02:08:34
Favor signify by. 02:08:37
All right. Thank you very much. 02:08:39
Oh. 02:08:44
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FC-01-25-05 - Thieneman- Development Plan General Document
FC-01-25-04 - Thieneman - PUD General Document
FC-01-25-03 - Thieneman- Knobs Landing Subdivision General Document
FC-01-25-02 - Thieneman- Rezone General Document
FC-01-25-01 - ASB- Administrative Subdivision General Document
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Event transcript
At this time, I'd like to call to order the February 10th the Floyd County Planning Commission. At this time, we'd like to stand 00:00:13
and honor our flag, please. 00:00:17
United States of America. 00:00:23
And to Republic, for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:26
OK, at this time I'd like to have a roll call. 00:00:36
Here. 00:00:39
Present. 00:00:44
Yeah. 00:00:46
Here. 00:00:47
Here. 00:00:50
Here. 00:00:51
Here. 00:00:53
Alrighty, one shorter board member. That's eight of us, correct? 00:00:55
All right. 00:00:58
At this time. 00:01:01
We'd like to have the minutes of the December. 00:01:03
Fruit. I'm going to take a look at those and make a motion. 00:01:07
I make a motion that we approve the December Planning Commission. 00:01:15
Minutes. All right. Thank you. I have a. 00:01:18
Motion any second. 00:01:21
Awesome. Go ahead. 00:01:24
I got a second, but John any. 00:01:25
Conversation. 00:01:27
Discussion. 00:01:29
At that time, we take a motion all in favor. 00:01:30
Aye, those opposed likewise. Thank you. Approved. Thank you. 00:01:33
All righty. We have no old business. Is that correct, Nick? 00:01:36
OK, this time we'd like to agenda number item number one, we have have to have the election of officers. 00:01:42
And at this time, we need some recommendation emotions. 00:01:49
I nominate Mr. Hunter for the president. 00:01:54
All right, we got a motion for president. We need a second. 00:01:57
Second. All right, we've got a second all in favor. 00:02:00
Aye, those opposed likewise. Thank you. 00:02:03
All right, now we need somebody for Vice President. 00:02:06
Needed somebody to. 00:02:09
Volunteer piece. 00:02:11
For a motion or a motion, there you go. Make somebody make a motion. That'll work. 00:02:16
Frank, are you willing to do it? 00:02:22
Take care. All right, so somebody needs to make a motion for Frank. 00:02:26
I'll make a motion, Frank. 00:02:29
For vice president. 00:02:31
All right, we have a motion a second all any discussion? 00:02:33
All in favor signify by. 00:02:37
Those opposed likewise. All right. Thanks. Thanks a lot. 00:02:39
All right. Next thing is the plant review committee. 00:02:42
Right now I've show that's Larry. 00:02:46
Chris Welch, Gina. 00:02:48
John Brankworth and myself as everybody still willing to serve. 00:02:50
I am OK Larry is John. 00:02:54
Gina and we called Chris and I'm willing to do that. So that takes care of that, OK? 00:02:58
All right. Next Adam is the Adam agenda item number two, FC-01. 00:03:03
Hold on. So you guys need to vote on that. 00:03:08
On which someone on the plant review, so I'm sorry, we need a vote on the plant review. So I need a motion to accept those 5 00:03:10
members. 00:03:13
Make a motion. All right, we have a motion. I need a second. 00:03:18
All right, all in favor signify by. 00:03:22
Likewise opposed. Thank you all right now. 00:03:24
All right. Now we're going to go to agenda item number 2. 00:03:29
FC-01-25-01, Administrative Subdivision. 00:03:32
Nick will give us his staff report. 00:03:37
This is an. 00:03:40
Minor subdivision application for four lot subdivision. The petitioner is ASB LLC. The zoning district is agricultural 00:03:41
residential. 00:03:45
They are requesting A4 lot subdivision with frontage on Nippleton Road. 00:03:50
The property currently has a home and two barns on it. 00:03:54
There is an identified floodway and floodway fringe on the South and. 00:03:58
Side of the property. 00:04:01
The plaque committee for this was cancelled due to a lack of quorum. 00:04:03
Staff comments is that the plat as submitted does comply with lot size standards. Lots are minimum of two acres with 100 foot. 00:04:07
Road frontage plate I submitted does comply with streets. 00:04:15
Standards There are no new streets provided. The plat as submitted does comply with easement standards with conditions. 00:04:19
Stated below, the driveway easements are needed. 00:04:25
For every two lots, one driveway easement is required. 00:04:30
Unless that requirement is waived by the. 00:04:34
Flat as submitted does comply with the block standards. There are no blocks proposed. 00:04:38
The plat as submitted does provide St. improvements as required. Again, no streets proposed. 00:04:44
The plat, as submitted does comply with Water Supply Standards Board and tri-county Regional Water has provided a service letter 00:04:51
for the new lots. 00:04:55
3 inch inch line is available for service. 00:04:59
This line is not adequate to provide Fire Protection. 00:05:02
The plot as submitted is suitable for sewage and wastewater containment because they have soil provided soil testing. 00:05:07
And has been completed by the Floyd County Health Department. 00:05:14
Reviewed in by the Floyd County Health Department and provided septic system requirements for suitable systems. 00:05:19
Staff Recommendations. 00:05:26
Would be to require joint driveways. 00:05:28
In easements to be added to the plat for lots. 00:05:31
I believe we said it was one and two, unless that is waived by the Planning Commission. 00:05:37
Add note on. 00:05:42
Flat that prior to development, the Owner shall consult with Highlander Fire Protection District. 00:05:44
On driveway placement. 00:05:50
All right. That's our staff reporting by having questions for Nick at this time on the board. 00:05:53
None. All righty. Thank you, Nick. 00:06:01
OK, at this time we'd like to call the applicant to come. 00:06:04
Forward and presenter. 00:06:06
Good evening. State your name and address. Yes, Sir. Brad Benson with ASB 720 Rolling Creek. 00:06:10
Drive the Ste. 106 in New Albany. 00:06:16
I know you all have blacks in your file there, but I've got a couple bigger ones if anyone would like. 00:06:19
You want to walk on. 00:06:24
Not a problem. 00:06:25
Yes, please. 00:06:29
So the staff report pretty much. 00:06:41
Pretty clear on what it is. It's a 20 acre parcel located at 688. 00:06:44
0 Mapleton Rd. 00:06:48
It is a R. 00:06:50
The tracks are. 00:06:51
For Track 1 is five acres, Track 2 is five acres, Track 3 is 2 acres. 00:06:53
Track 3 is the one with the house on it that will remain. 00:06:59
Track 4 is the 8 acre parcel. 00:07:02
He's correct on the ordinance allows for. 00:07:06
A minimum of two acre lots, so it applies with that. The road frontage is 100 square or 100 feet. 00:07:09
So we could play with that. 00:07:15
One element that he did say that. 00:07:16
It does not meet. 00:07:18
The board has. 00:07:20
So the Commission has the ability to. 00:07:22
Waive the right for an access easement between these lots. 00:07:24
We would ask that that be waived for all four parcels. 00:07:28
Track 3 already has a house on it. Our goal with this is that we're not. There's no plans for this right now. We're going to let 00:07:33
it sit. 00:07:36
May list it and sell it and let somebody out. 00:07:40
Build a house on it. We are home builder so hopefully it's us. 00:07:42
We may end up holding. 00:07:45
Family member, but right now there's no plans. 00:07:47
So with these big, Big Lots, we're hoping that you know you're. 00:07:51
State style houses big, lots big. 00:07:55
You know, big entrance in there. 00:07:58
If the Commission were to require a. 00:08:00
The access easement. 00:08:03
I would ask that it only be on. 00:08:05
Lots 1 and 2. 00:08:07
Those are the two bigger ones on the. 00:08:09
If you're looking at the fly on the bottom side. 00:08:11
It's only because lot 3 already has a drive. 00:08:14
Lot 4 would then be a separate drive as well. 00:08:17
If that is not an option and Commission would require the. 00:08:21
Access easements on all of them. 00:08:26
Then I would ask that the approval tonight be conditioned upon us supplying those. 00:08:28
I believe it's 50 feet wide along those property lines. 00:08:33
And we'll submit that proper paperwork. 00:08:37
For Nick for approval. 00:08:39
So just to clarify real quick on the excess easements. 00:08:40
Are they are they not using the road frontage to access their properties or will they need to go across the other tracks? No they 00:08:46
will. They all have proper Rd. frontage along Naples and road. So our hope would be that we would have drives off of Napleton. 00:08:52
That would not be able to. 00:08:58
Access easement will not be needed. 00:09:00
So you still got these the site provisions for one for #1 Yes, there is. So the minimum is 100 feet and. 00:09:04
There's 100 on all. 00:09:13
Yeah. 00:09:18
Fall from there and Associates, 301 E Chestnut St. Court in Indiana. 00:09:21
Your administrative subdivision requirements have have a have a requirement for joint driveways for every two lots. That's what 00:09:24
Mr. Benson is describing. 00:09:28
I understand the limit the need is to limit access to county roads. 00:09:34
But when you have Big Lots like this, especially one that has an existing House of drive, it makes it difficult to Co locate those 00:09:38
drives. 00:09:42
And even though the ordinance requires it, it still creates a maintenance problem. 00:09:46
Because you have two homeowners fighting over. 00:09:49
Who's going to maintain that joint driveway? 00:09:51
It's it's in my opinion to everyone's best interest to separate those travelers. 00:09:53
OK. Any other questions? 00:10:00
None. 00:10:05
All right. At this time, we'd like to open up to anybody that like to speak in favor of this project. 00:10:06
Come forward now. State your name and your address for the record. 00:10:13
See that there's none stepping forward. 00:10:19
Now we open up to those who want to oppose. Are you come in favor, Sir? 00:10:21
OK, OK. Well. 00:10:26
Yeah, anybody wants coming against it, coming forward. 00:10:28
State your name and your address for the record please. 00:10:31
James White. 00:10:38
Everybody got that gotcha. 00:10:39
OK, I live at 314 Tuscany Drive. 00:10:41
And if they open all that up there and that's going to open our street up to. 00:10:44
Them coming more traffic down through there, right? 00:10:50
Sir, I think you're about the wrong. You're on the wrong project. Sir, this is on Napleton Road. 00:10:53
I'm sorry. 00:10:57
You're in the right church, Wrong Pew. 00:10:59
All right, so. 00:11:05
You he got a jump on you guys. 00:11:09
All right, at this time everybody will speak in opposition. 00:11:13
To the administrative subdivision. 00:11:17
On naval Tarot come forward, state your name and address. 00:11:20
Mike Gatton. I live at 6975 Napleton Rd. 00:11:24
And my property overlooks this property. 00:11:27
And. 00:11:31
The traffic is already bad due to Cutter Smith woodworking. 00:11:32
Huber's all that and to divide this out and put four more houses on there. 00:11:36
Just opens it up for more development and. 00:11:42
There's a second. 00:11:44
Lot that is not involved in this to the left of it and it's going to open that up for more development. 00:11:45
We moved out there to be in the county. I've lived there 23 years. We don't want to be in the city. 00:11:52
The traffic, The busing. 00:11:56
School buses, things like that. 00:11:58
The trucks it's already bad enough we. 00:12:01
Preferred the county to state county. 00:12:03
That's why we're there. 00:12:06
Thank you. 00:12:09
Have some more time for anybody else to come forward. State your name and address for the record. 00:12:14
And take the films. 00:12:20
And I live at 7200 Mableton Rd. 00:12:22
Our property also looks through. 00:12:25
Mr. loops backyard. 00:12:27
Over to this property. 00:12:29
Like he said, the traffic is already so terrible. We have. 00:12:31
Multiple wrecks with semis on. 00:12:35
Our Rd. every year that drive off the roads hit trees. 00:12:37
It is. 00:12:42
So busy. 00:12:43
Adding this is. 00:12:44
Taking away all of our country, all of our farmland. 00:12:46
I I had somebody build a house behind me a couple years ago and I now have no deer in my yard. I mean like there's literally no 00:12:50
wildlife except for comedies. If anybody knows about my coyote issue, but. 00:12:56
There is. 00:13:01
Like nothing coming in our property more because everybody's building and scaring them out and. 00:13:02
That's why we moved there. We moved to begin the country. We have farm animals. 00:13:07
And dogs and. 00:13:11
Horses and goats, and that's what we moved there for and. 00:13:13
I mean you all all moved out there for the same reason. I know where most of you live and you move to those areas for. 00:13:16
That in. 00:13:22
You're turning it around. There's another piece of land. 00:13:23
I know the same person bought on Ableton road and if you all approve this. 00:13:26
It's just gonna turn around and get approved for him as well, and that's. 00:13:30
Down by the cows. 00:13:33
So like, that's our landmarks. We turn at the cows you go to. 00:13:35
This farm and that farm and you're just turning it away. 00:13:39
Everybody asked me every day. 00:13:43
Do you know anybody that has 5 acres for sale? 00:13:44
No, because somebody buys it and puts a whole bunch of houses on it. 00:13:47
That's not what we want. 00:13:51
So just consider that. 00:13:52
Thank you. 00:13:54
Good evening, Troy Durham. 00:14:03
7222 Napleton Rd. 00:14:05
I'm also as a crow flies less than a mile from this development potential development. 00:14:07
I don't chagrin anybody for China. 00:14:12
Exercise their free enterprise and do business as they see fit. They have the freedom to do it. 00:14:14
My two cents as much like these other people who spoke. 00:14:20
It's too crowded on the road. It's too busy. 00:14:24
And uh, uh. 00:14:26
To be frank. 00:14:28
I don't like the discomfort I already have fearing for my. 00:14:29
Home and those within it from vehicle. 00:14:33
Thanks. We've had semis in our front yard. 00:14:36
In the past. 00:14:38
And I just think it's too much on the road. 00:14:41
Too much development. 00:14:43
This would maybe be a domino. 00:14:44
Of continuing the domino effect of what's already happened with the. 00:14:46
Development further out to the county. 00:14:50
I don't wish to see it. 00:14:52
For my $0.02. 00:14:54
And where I lived. 00:14:56
And chose to live. 00:14:57
For rural reasons. 00:14:59
There's something. 00:15:00
Alluring to being out in the country. 00:15:01
And I think that would be spoiled. 00:15:03
Thank you very much. Thank you. 00:15:05
Anybody else? 00:15:08
All right, at this time we get. 00:15:12
Nobody else in opposition. We open the floor back to the petitioner to rebut. 00:15:15
Anything that was discussed. 00:15:19
Thank you. I'll make it short here. The only thing I would like to point out is we are this is administrative flat. 00:15:23
We comply with the ordinance. The only issue would be the access easement. 00:15:29
I said I would ask that you waive that right here because of what we're trying to do with this. 00:15:34
We are not looking to divide this property. It is an AR which is a. 00:15:39
Two acre lot minimum. 00:15:42
So hypothetically we get coming forth with a plat for 9 acres in that zone. 00:15:44
We're not looking to do that. 00:15:49
Worth looking just for four. 00:15:50
They're Big Lots, A2 acre. The smallest one is one with the house on it. They'll remain. 00:15:52
And then the 55 naked SO. 00:15:57
All right. Thank you. 00:15:59
At this point where we looking for a ballot? 00:16:03
I have a ballot. 00:16:07
Subdivision named Ableton Place DACA. 00:16:08
FC 01/25/01. 00:16:11
After careful review, the fact committee finds that one. 00:16:15
Plant as submitted does comply with the lot size standards. 00:16:18
Because the new lights are all a minimum of two acres with more than 100. 00:16:22
Foot of Rd. frontage #2. 00:16:26
The plan has submitted does comply with the street design standards. 00:16:29
Because no streets, no new streets are proposed. 00:16:33
#3. 00:16:36
The plan has submitted does comply with the easement standards because with the conditions below, driveway easements. 00:16:37
Or required. 00:16:43
#4 the plat as submitted does comply with the block standards. 00:16:45
Because there are no blocks required or proposed. 00:16:48
#5 the plat as submitted does. 00:16:52
Provide St. and. 00:16:55
Improvements as required by the ordinance. There are no new streets provided. 00:16:56
Number six, the Plat as submitted does comply with the water supply standards because. 00:17:01
Board and Tri Water Regional. 00:17:06
Water has provided a service letter for the new. 00:17:09
Lots. A three inch line is available for service. Note this line is not adequate for bad Fire Protection. 00:17:13
#7 the plat as submitted is suitable. 00:17:19
Pursuage and wastewater contain. 00:17:21
Containment because soil testing has been completed. 00:17:24
And Floyd County Health Department has provided septic system requirements for suitable systems. 00:17:27
The plant is accepted upon completion of the following condition at a joint driveway and easement to the plat for Lots 1 and 2. 00:17:33
Adding note to the plat. 00:17:40
That states the following. Prior to development, the owners shall consult the Highlander Fire Protection District for Fire 00:17:41
Protection requirements. 00:17:45
Due to the lack of adequate water supply. 00:17:48
Decision the Floyd County Planning Commission hereby grants the. 00:17:51
Primary approval. 00:17:55
For this administrative subdivision at the meeting held on the 10th of February, 2025. 00:17:56
That completes my ballot. 00:18:02
All right, we have a ballot. We're looking for a second. 00:18:04
I'll second. We have a second. 00:18:09
All in favor signify any discussion. Any discussion. 00:18:11
Any discussion? 00:18:15
All in favor signify by aye aye, those opposed likewise. 00:18:17
It passes. Thank you. 00:18:22
Did they sign down? 00:18:31
OK, at this time we like to move to Well, first of all, we want to ask the petitioner. 00:18:34
If they're OK with us putting. 00:18:40
Agenda items 3 through 6 and hearing them at the same time. 00:18:43
Mr. Craft, you OK with that? 00:18:47
All right. 00:18:50
Yes, separate ballots on everyone. Yes, Sir. 00:18:52
OK. OK. At this time, we'd like to ask Nick Creeby. 00:18:55
I'm a non voting member but I'll be recused recusing myself for the rest of the meeting. All right, thank you. 00:19:00
At this time, they could give a staff report. 00:19:09
So this is for docket items number FCO 1/25/02. 00:19:13
CO125. 00:19:18
Three FC 24. 00:19:20
504. 00:19:23
In FC. 00:19:27
1/25/05. 00:19:31
Petitioner Here's the Thing Group LLC. The location is 5031 through 5053 Old Vincent's Road. 00:19:38
The requests are for a zoning map amendment. 00:19:45
A major subdivision. 00:19:50
A PUD map amendment. 00:19:53
In detailed development. 00:19:56
They are all pertaining to the same project. 00:19:59
The current zoning is for general commercial. 00:20:03
Underlying zoning request is for multi family and then a multi family PUD. 00:20:07
The petitioner is seeking a planned unit development for mixed-use, multi family residential and commercial use. 00:20:13
This proposal will consolidate 4 parcels into two building lots, 3 points 64 and 2.334 acres. 00:20:19
The lots will be separated by through St. known as Knobs Landing Blvd. 00:20:28
Connecting Tuscany Drive in Trevor Rd. 00:20:33
Lot 1 will front will Vincennes Road and is the larger lot and will include two building. 00:20:36
Two buildings, A mixed-use commercial multifamily building. Building 1. 00:20:42
In a separate standalone commercial. 00:20:46
Retail building with drive through. 00:20:49
Which is proposed bank building 3 threes. 00:20:51
Lot 2 will have a single multi family building. 00:20:54
In a building 2. 00:20:58
Building 1 at the north of the property in the fronting Old Vincennes Rd. 00:21:00
Will be a three story structure with the ground floor area of 25,092 square feet. 00:21:05
The building will include 7717 square foot of commercial retail space. 00:21:11
Clubhouse leasing office. 00:21:17
And 59 multifamily units, 21 of those will be two-bedroom, 38 one bedroom. 00:21:19
Building 3 at the east side of the property will be near the corner of Shriver and Old Vincent's. 00:21:26
It will be a thirty 3600 square foot retail building with drive through that is the proposed bank. 00:21:31
Building 2, located at the South of the property on Lot 2, will be a three story multi family structure with ground floor area of 00:21:40
23,679 square feet and 66 units. 00:21:46
The property will also have. 00:21:52
Pool and outdoor recreation games area. 00:21:54
Neat foot masonry wall. 00:21:57
We'll buffer the residents on the West side of the development. 00:22:00
Villas of Floyd's knives. 00:22:03
Adjoining properties to the West. 00:22:05
Is the residential urban zone subdivision buildings of Floyd's Knobs to northwest across Tuscany. Dr. is a vacant general 00:22:07
commercial property. 00:22:12
Across Old Vincennes Road to the north is undeveloped general commercial. 00:22:16
To the northeast is Highlander Point development. 00:22:20
General commercial zoned. 00:22:23
The East Across River Rd. is general commercial. 00:22:26
To the South is residentially urban zone property with two acre single family lot. 00:22:29
In small section of the Highland subdivision. 00:22:34
Which is residential urban. 00:22:37
The current base zone for the proposal is general commercial. 00:22:39
Commercial. 00:22:43
Part of Floyd County Zoning Ordinance Section 7.04 GA Base Commercial Zone may not designate more than 30% of the proposed 00:22:44
development per square footage for residential. 00:22:49
Therefore the applicant is requesting the base zone be changed to multi family. 00:22:55
A traffic impact study was conducted for the proposal and determined that the intersections impacted by the development. 00:23:01
Will continue to work at an acceptable level of service. 00:23:07
Technical Review Committee was held on December 18th, 2024 for this development. 00:23:17
Summary report was attached to your staff report. 00:23:23
The technical review committee provides. 00:23:27
Recommendations to the Planning Commission. 00:23:30
On that. 00:23:33
Are the utility providers. 00:23:34
Public Safety. Sheriff Fire. 00:23:37
School. 00:23:40
As well as county staff, storm water engineering and planning. 00:23:42
The reason? Staff finds that the rezoning of the subject property is consistent with the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan. 00:23:47
Because the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan identifies the area as a commercial growth area. 00:23:54
Proposed. 00:23:59
The mixed-use featuring a commercial element yours to the frontage. 00:24:00
Additionally, rezoning is consistent with smart growth principles identified in the plan. Specifically mixed land uses compact 00:24:04
building design. 00:24:08
Creating a range of housing opportunities, directing development towards existing communities and preferring. 00:24:12
And thus preserving open space, farmland, natural beauty, and critical environmental areas. 00:24:18
As this is an infill development. 00:24:23
The rezoning of the subject property is consistent with the. 00:24:27
Conditions of the character of the current structures in the. 00:24:30
And uses in the area. 00:24:34
Because the commercial use is in the front of the lot are consistent with the original general commercial zoning. 00:24:36
The multifamily uses our appropriate transitional uses between general commercial and urban residential uses. 00:24:42
Voting facade materials are brick and Hardy board. 00:24:48
The structures are within the height limits of the zoning ordinance. And there are. 00:24:52
There is another three story building in the vicinity that is the Chase Bank. 00:24:56
The rezoning of the subject property is necessary for the most desirable use of. 00:25:01
The land because. 00:25:06
The rezoning follows smart growth principles already noted. 00:25:08
It has also provided. 00:25:12
Additional housing identified as needed in the Purdue Housing Report the county had completed in 2020. 00:25:14
It is mixed-use infill in commercial growth area. 00:25:20
The rezoning of the subject property will not be interest to the values of other properties in the area because. 00:25:24
Commercial uses are consistent with the neighborhood commercial zoning. 00:25:30
Excuse me? 00:25:34
The general commercial zoning. 00:25:35
Inappropriate adjacent and residential urban zoning. 00:25:38
And uses the addition of the multifamily component. 00:25:41
Will support local business customer base. The development will increase the value of the lots itself and expected that positive 00:25:44
impacts on neighboring commercial lots. 00:25:48
Buffer yard. 00:25:53
Along adjacent residential lots is provided on the West. Additional buffering is recommended for the properties on the South. 00:25:54
The rezoning of the subject property will support responsible growth and development in the area. 00:26:03
Because rezoning follows the objectives of small smart growth outlined in the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan. 00:26:08
Higher development is directed towards existing infrastructure. 00:26:15
Provider letters indicate ability to serve and the development is identified. Commercial growth area. 00:26:18
It is an infill development staff has favorable recommendations for the reason. 00:26:24
Written commitments recommended would be buffer yard 2 standards met. 00:26:30
For all adjoining residents. 00:26:34
Drainage will meet Floyd County stormwater standards as approved by the Stormwater Board. 00:26:37
And if phased, lot 1 will be developed first in a schedule for completion of the project will be provided. 00:26:43
Onto the subdivision application. 00:26:51
I will not repeat the. 00:26:54
Outline of the. 00:26:58
Project. 00:26:59
On staff review, the Petitioner has provided compliant preliminary plan for the project, including preliminary plat. Petitioner 00:27:01
has provided certification that all drainage and environmental requirements will be complied with and that there are no known 00:27:06
outstanding issues concerning IDAM. 00:27:11
Geotechnical report is not required for the property and staff. The traffic study has been completed by strained associates. 00:27:17
In the phase one environmental is not required. 00:27:25
Lots meet the size and frontage standards of the zoning ordinance. 00:27:28
General, commercial and multifamily districts. 00:27:31
Knobs Landing Blvd. is proposed as a through St. between Tuscany and Schreiber Rd. Dimensions and layout. 00:27:35
Subdivision control ordinance requirements. 00:27:43
Multiple entrances from Schreiber Rd. Knobs Landing Blvd. in Tuscany Dr. is provided. 00:27:46
Sidewalks are provided. 00:27:52
Certification to meet county drainage and stormwater standards have been provided final approval of the drainage plan. 00:27:54
Will be required prior to secondary approval. 00:28:01
The petitioner has provided willingness to serve. Letters from Floyd Knobs Water, Georgetown. 00:28:05
Township Fire Protection District, Harrison RC, New Albany Wastewater Charter and AT&T. 00:28:09
The wastewater will be provided by New Albany Storm Water. 00:28:16
Our wastewater is not. 00:28:19
Staff recommendations are just that, the. 00:28:21
Final approval of drains stormwater plans be required prior to secondary improvement. 00:28:24
For the PUD application. 00:28:30
I'll go over the PUD process. 00:28:32
So part. 00:28:34
Planned unit development is a design special district that can be pursued by an applicant. The purpose of the planned unit 00:28:36
development is to courage the flexibility to develop or redevelop land in an effort to promote appropriate uses. 00:28:42
Maintain unique character features such as natural or historic resources. 00:28:49
Promote innovative design concepts. 00:28:53
It is also designed to facilitate the economies of scale in relationship to infrastructure, public services, encouraging field 00:28:56
development. 00:28:59
PUD process. 00:29:03
Petitioner meets with staff. 00:29:05
For a conceptual step. 00:29:07
Sketch playing and playing conference, which they did on. 00:29:09
October 23rd, 2024. 00:29:13
Petitioner then submits a detailed development plan for review. 00:29:16
And submits a PUD application for Employment Commission. 00:29:19
The Plan Commission can then. 00:29:23
Provide umm. 00:29:25
A recommendation to the county commissioners. 00:29:26
In a favor favorable recommendation. 00:29:29
An unfavorable recommendation or no recommendation? 00:29:32
The county commissioners will then review the rezoning petition within 90 days and may approve or disapprove the request. Upon 00:29:36
approval, the property is officially resumed. 00:29:41
The PUD will then return to the Planning Commission for secondary approval. 00:29:46
Of the detailed development plan. 00:29:50
No additional public hearing will be required. 00:29:52
Safra views of the pod. 00:29:56
But very significantly from the zoning. 00:29:58
In subdivision control ordinances in a few areas. 00:30:01
1st. 00:30:08
It is unclear the minimum. 00:30:09
Unit size of the units. 00:30:10
We have an 800 square foot. 00:30:13
Minimum. So I would just like. 00:30:15
The applicant provide that information. 00:30:17
Density. They're requesting approximately 20.9 dwellings per acre. 00:30:20
Our multi family standard is. 00:30:25
Currently 8 is the allowed maximum. 00:30:28
We do have several developments in the county. 00:30:31
That have. 00:30:34
19 to 20, that's not built. 00:30:35
And Gateway villages has about 15. 00:30:39
Dwelling units breaker. 00:30:41
Parking 2 1/2 spaces are required per dwelling unit. 00:30:44
They have provided 1.8 for lot 1 and 1.92 for lot 2. 00:30:48
And then the buffer yard. 00:30:55
South side of the property. 00:30:56
Would require. 00:30:59
Buffer Yard 2 standards. 00:31:00
The proposed land in the in. 00:31:03
Land uses in the PUD are. 00:31:06
Are not in conflict with the spirit and intent. 00:31:08
Of the comprehensive plan, surrounding land uses and zoning districts. 00:31:11
The comprehensive plan. 00:31:16
It shows that the area is a commercial growth area. High density should be directed towards adequate infrastructure and public 00:31:18
services. 00:31:21
Proposal can be served by all utility providers without expansion. 00:31:24
In multi family style density should consider mixed land uses which is studs. 00:31:29
Zoning and surrounding land uses. The proposal is currently in the general commercial district with residential urban. 00:31:34
General commercial adjacent. 00:31:40
The proposed blood does provide adequate public service, light, air traffic control, open and more common. 00:31:43
Space and recreation. 00:31:49
The proposal does include adequate services, as evidenced. 00:31:52
Service provider letters. 00:31:55
Proposal includes reasonable traffic circulation plan. 00:31:58
Traffic impact study has been conducted. 00:32:01
And the proposal provides recreational space in the form of a pool and outdoor games area. There's also green space within the 00:32:04
development. 00:32:07
The proposed PUD is compatible with adjacent properties and surrounding neighborhood. 00:32:12
Commercial use is consistent with general commercial uses in the Highlander point in the zoning of adjacent properties, 00:32:17
multifamily residential. 00:32:21
Is appropriate with mixed uses and should be buffered from adjacent. 00:32:24
Residential uses. 00:32:29
The proposed BUD will not interfere with the use or diminish the value of adjacent properties. 00:32:31
In surrounding neighborhood. 00:32:35
Improvements on the land are expected to have positive impacts on neighboring property values. 00:32:37
Mixed retail, commercial and multi family will not diminish the use of neighborhood properties with adequate public services 00:32:42
provided. 00:32:46
Appropriate offering is required to adjourn. 00:32:50
Residential properties. 00:32:53
HUD will not diminish the level of service for roadway systems in the vicinity. 00:32:55
As the traffic impact study. 00:33:00
Concluded. 00:33:03
The proposed PUD can be immediately and adequately served by the existing public facilities and services. 00:33:05
As evidenced by the. 00:33:11
Service letters. 00:33:13
The proposed POD does preserve natural and historic. 00:33:15
Resources to every extent possible. The existing cycles of single family structure used as a commercial office. 00:33:18
The site will be cleared and new plantings consistent with the zoning ordinance Landscaping will be installed. 00:33:24
There are no known historic resources on the site. 00:33:30
Proposed PUD will not be interest to the health, safety and general welfare. The proposed plot is consistent with planning 00:33:35
documents for this area. Adequate public infrastructure is available. 00:33:40
For the development as our public services. 00:33:46
Drainage will be approved by County Stormwater consistent with their requirements. Staff recommendations are favorable 00:33:49
recommendation with the following commitments and conditions. 00:33:53
Written commitments will be phased. Phase one will be Lot 1 funding or Vincents Road and the schedule for completion of all phases 00:33:59
will be provided. 00:34:03
To the Planning Commission. 00:34:07
Prior to secondary approval. 00:34:08
Provide additional screening of dumpster on lot 1 between dumpster and roadway. 00:34:11
Provide light at entrance locations where there are none and meet Buffer Yard 2 standards for adjoining residential use to the 00:34:16
South. 00:34:20
That is the staff report for these 4. 00:34:24
Applications. 00:34:27
All righty. Thanks, Nick. Any any questions on the board? 00:34:30
You have a question. 00:34:34
Nick, you indicated. 00:34:36
There that strange associates conducted a traffic study for the project and then an acceptable. 00:34:37
Loss or level of service was was found. Those law studies typically indicate like a grade between A and F Do you have any idea 00:34:42
what the grade was for the particular project? 00:34:47
B i.e. and beyond. 00:34:53
The the level of service indicated. 00:34:57
Which is. 00:35:01
Deemed acceptable as the current level of service. 00:35:03
So any other? 00:35:09
Any other questions? 00:35:11
For Nick. 00:35:14
And they if. 00:35:16
We had a TRC on this right, a technical review committee. 00:35:17
Can we explain just a little bit to the board? 00:35:20
What came out of that meeting? What's the purpose of that meeting? Yes, the tier the plans provided to the TRC were. 00:35:24
A little bit different than what we finally have here. 00:35:30
The alignment of the site had the bank on the opposite side on Tuscany Drive. 00:35:34
Dumpster was located closer to the roadway on Knox Landing or Knox Landing Blvd. 00:35:42
There were more multifamily units. 00:35:48
So the parking. 00:35:51
Ratios were. 00:35:53
Less. 00:35:55
And there was number buffer yard. 00:35:59
For the residential. 00:36:00
Properties to the West. So they didn't make all those modifications for this final application, OK. 00:36:02
All righty. 00:36:11
So they've already adjusted. 00:36:14
The original application, is that correct? 00:36:16
At the TRC. 00:36:19
Thank you. 00:36:21
Are any other questions for Nick? 00:36:22
OK. At this point, let me go through just a little bit of a housekeeping here. 00:36:24
Because of the sensitivity of this project and the number of. 00:36:29
Agenda items we have. 00:36:34
We're going to increase the time that we allow. 00:36:36
For the applicant to present his. 00:36:38
Project and then we're going to double the times. 00:36:43
That we have for people to speak in favor, to speak in opposition, and then we will then give the applicant 5 minutes to rebut 00:36:46
anything that was so said. So just let the board know that that's what we're going to do because of the. 00:36:52
The sensitivity of this project so. 00:36:58
If the applicant would like to come forward, state his name and address. 00:37:01
We appreciate it. 00:37:05
For the record, John Craft with the law firm of Young Lind Anderson Kraft, 126 W Spring Street in New Albany. 00:37:14
Appearing on behalf of the applicant. 00:37:21
Along with the engineer which would be Jason Copper White with Paul Primavera and Associates. 00:37:23
Jackson Theneman is with me as well from Phenomenon. 00:37:28
Group LLC. 00:37:32
And then likewise Daniel Moriarty. 00:37:34
Who has designed the? 00:37:36
Project from the standpoint of the architectural piece of that. 00:37:38
So ultimately. 00:37:42
Four of us will present. 00:37:44
I'll cover first of all, as indicated, there are four items before you this evening. 00:37:47
Two of which are rezoning. 00:37:51
Which means ultimately, those two rezoning issues come to you for a recommendation. 00:37:53
Not an approval tonight, but merely. 00:37:59
A request as it relates to those zoning requirements. 00:38:02
Going forward to the county commissioners with a favorable. 00:38:06
And unfavorable or no recommendation at all. 00:38:09
Under those two elements, and again, we'll talk a little bit about each one, but under each of those elements. 00:38:13
You have to pay due consideration and these are the same considerations the commissioners will look at in order to make a 00:38:20
determination. 00:38:23
On the passage of these two ordinances. 00:38:27
Primarily, Indiana Code 3674603 covers those five elements. 00:38:30
Those five elements deal with the Comprehensive Plan and. 00:38:35
You'll hear on a. 00:38:38
PowerPoint, you'll hear Mr. Copper Weight go through those issues with regards to compliance with the current comprehensive plan. 00:38:41
Current conditions and character of current structures and uses in each district. 00:38:48
The most desirable use for which land in each district is adapted. 00:38:53
Conservation of property values throughout the jurisdiction. 00:38:57
And responsible development and growth. 00:39:01
You've probably heard a number of items covered by Mr. Creepy when he spoke. 00:39:03
Pertaining to the staff report. 00:39:07
And this is a growth area in the county? 00:39:09
Certainly, again, Mr. Copper weight will cover that more fully. 00:39:12
The piece as it relates to. 00:39:16
The change from GC, which if you look at the current zoning ordinance in Floyd County, there are 91. 00:39:18
Uses that could be put there as a matter of right. 00:39:27
Including, uh. 00:39:30
Big box commercial. 00:39:31
Including smaller units, but it is a GC in their actual 91 uses that could be put there as a matter of right. 00:39:32
One of the things that you'll hear this evening is when Mr. Feenman looked at this project. 00:39:40
He looked at it from the standpoint of dealing with. 00:39:45
Walkability. 00:39:49
Specifically, individuals as well as commercial uses don't want to go in an area now just where they're putting a commercial use. 00:39:51
They want the possibility of residents that can use that commercial area and also look at the possibility of walking to and from 00:39:58
their residence to those commercial uses. 00:40:04
When we look at the issue from a GC to the MF. 00:40:10
The multifamily. 00:40:14
Under the terms of a normal change of zoning. 00:40:16
When taking it to an MF that would allow any type of. 00:40:19
Multifamily use on this property. 00:40:23
Provided it meets the development standards of the multifamily. 00:40:26
But the other piece of the rezoning request this evening? 00:40:29
Is taking that multifamily to a PUD. 00:40:33
And the purpose of a PUD first and foremost is to deal with mixed uses. 00:40:36
On a given property. 00:40:41
But most importantly to you as well as the county commissioners as well as the community. 00:40:43
When you take a. 00:40:48
Change to an MF that allows, as long as it meets the requirements, to go as deep and as dense as you desire to do on this 6 plus 00:40:50
acres. 00:40:54
But with the change to a planned unit development district. 00:40:59
What it requires, and you heard Mr. Creevy, again go through the process because the process is one of those that if both zoning 00:41:04
changes are forwarded to the commissioners with favorable recommendations and again the commissioners passed those. 00:41:11
That ultimately. 00:41:19
The PUD must then return to you as the Plan Commission for secondary review. 00:41:20
So it's not a matter that we're getting a blank check. 00:41:26
For a change to multifamily and do what we desire to do. 00:41:29
The project itself. And that's the 4th element you'll see this evening. 00:41:33
Is the development plan. 00:41:37
But under the terms of a planned unit development district. 00:41:39
It is established by way of ordinance. So ultimately. 00:41:42
Commissioners pass that ordinance. 00:41:45
They will then adopt specific. 00:41:48
Definitions of what you may do. 00:41:50
Much again as indicated. 00:41:53
We went to the. 00:41:55
Technical Review Committee on December 18th and walk through this project in order to make certain that what we would do and what 00:41:57
the development plan would cover would be in order that we can move forward with it. 00:42:03
So it's not a matter that by granting an MF. 00:42:08
In that instance, it's a matter of granting an MF with a planned unit development district. 00:42:12
It will then designate exactly what can be put on that parcel. 00:42:17
That will then be brought back to you as the Plan Commission for secondary review. 00:42:21
Once that secondary review is granted. 00:42:26
Then from that standpoint, what you end up with is a situation of having to abide. 00:42:30
By that plan that you see in front of you. 00:42:36
If that is the secondary approval plan. 00:42:39
And as a result of that, it allows you as well as the commissioners the ability. 00:42:41
To determine what planned documentation. 00:42:47
And you heard Mr. Creedy's report, some of those elements of what needs to be provided. 00:42:50
In order to move this forward. 00:42:55
Provided. 00:42:57
It changes from MF. 00:42:58
To the PUD. 00:43:00
Those two come together. 00:43:02
And again, those would be adopted by way of an ordinance by the county commissioners. 00:43:03
The other two pieces of it. 00:43:08
Provided. 00:43:10
Those two zoning changes come forward. Those other two pieces then become ministerial in nature. 00:43:12
And that is the subdivision. 00:43:19
And as long as the subdivision meets the requirements of the subdivision control ordinance. And again when listening to the report 00:43:21
of Mr. Privy, and I'm sure you've read it. 00:43:26
Specifically, uh. 00:43:31
We meet those requirements if in fact those two zoning changes come about. 00:43:32
The other piece of it. 00:43:37
Would be the development. 00:43:39
And once again, provided that development plan meets all of the elements as to setbacks and otherwise for this zoning district. 00:43:40
With the planned unit development district. 00:43:48
Then likewise, that is a ministerial action as well. 00:43:51
We're here this evening asking specifically that these 4 dockets. 00:43:55
Be approved. 00:43:59
Two of which were asking for favorable recommendation. 00:44:00
To the county commissioners. 00:44:04
Certainly your recommendation is what the county commissioners are going to listen to. 00:44:05
The county commissioners do not have to follow your recommendation. 00:44:10
But certainly from the standpoint it in my experience over 40 plus years. 00:44:14
Most times and most often, they will follow that recommendation. So we're here this evening asking for favorable recommendation 00:44:19
on. 00:44:23
The zoning change from. 00:44:27
Our two MF from. 00:44:30
The GC as well as asking that MF be limited by way of a PUD. 00:44:33
And ask that that likewise be forwarded. 00:44:39
With a favorable recommendation. 00:44:42
I'm gonna call on. 00:44:44
Jason to go through the elements with regards to the plan itself and touch on those elements under the comprehensive plan you 00:44:46
should have in front of you. If not, it'll be on the screen a power. 00:44:51
PowerPoint presentation regarding that. Thank you. 00:44:57
All right. Thank you. How are we doing on time? 00:45:01
How much? 00:45:08
Two, he had 20. He had total 20 minutes. 00:45:09
12. 00:45:13
He got 1212 minutes. I'll try to be quick. 00:45:15
There you go. 00:45:18
Good evening, Jason Copper. Wait again with Paul from Avera and Associates. 00:45:19
I'll try not to repeat anything. 00:45:22
Mr. Creeby said, or Mr. Kraft said, though there are probably slides that you repeat that information. 00:45:24
I'll try to gloss over those if I can. 00:45:28
Again, this is knobs landing mixed-use development. 00:45:30
Located at 5031 through 50. 00:45:33
53 Old Vincennes Rd. 00:45:35
The next slide, that's the aerial of the site. 00:45:38
I don't know that anyone's actually showing you that when they were talking, but it's the southwest quadrant of the intersection 00:45:41
of Shriver Rd. 00:45:43
And open sense you can see to the West as villas of Floyd Knobs. 00:45:46
To the South as a single family residence and the Highlands that's still developing NE is Highlander Point. 00:45:50
Just to the east of this Planning Commission may remember. 00:45:56
You've approved a bank development plan at that site. 00:45:59
Don't know when that will be developed, but it's coming. 00:46:02
This is the zoning map for the area. The red is general commercial GC. 00:46:04
The orange is residential urban. 00:46:08
Are you? 00:46:10
These are the four applications that have been talked about already. 00:46:12
This is an artist rendering that Mister Moriarty prepared for the site. 00:46:17
You can see. 00:46:21
Prize and help you, but there are two buildings on the north lot. 00:46:23
One building on the South with some amenities together on the north lot. 00:46:26
This is the. 00:46:31
My engineering version of his color rendering which shows a little bit more detail. It has turned 90°. Apologize for that. 00:46:32
But again, it's just a little bit more detailed. 00:46:40
So it is 6.4 acres. It will be. 00:46:43
The plan is to divide it into two lots. 00:46:46
Mr. Creepy went through the particulars. Just to highlight those, Building 1 is 7717 square foot of ground floor retail. 00:46:49
With a leasing office, clubhouse. 00:46:57
59 multifamily dwelling units, 21 of which are two-bedroom, 38 of which are one bedroom. 00:46:58
Google and other outdoor amenities are proposed there. 00:47:03
Building 2 is 66 multifamily dwelling units, 24 two-bedroom and 42 one bedroom. This that's on the South lot and building 3 is a 00:47:06
3600 square foot. 00:47:11
Bank Retail. 00:47:15
With a drive through. 00:47:17
These are the zoning. 00:47:20
Change characteristics that Mister Kraft talked about earlier. 00:47:22
So I took excerpts from your comprehensive plan that I that I felt showed that this site. 00:47:28
Met the requirements. 00:47:33
As Mr. Creeby said, smart growth, it's kind of buzzword throughout your comprehensive plan. 00:47:35
Smart Growth is a planning theory designed toward the efficient use of land, resources and existing urban infrastructure. 00:47:40
And your in your comp plan list. 00:47:45
10 smart growth principles, of which we probably meet 8. 00:47:48
Mixed land uses where appropriate. 00:47:52
Take advantage of compact building design. 00:47:54
Create a range of housing opportunities throughout the jurisdiction. 00:47:56
Create walkable communities. You'll see the pedestrian infrastructure we're proposing. 00:47:59
Preserve open space. Now you could say this is not preserving open space. 00:48:06
But what this does is it brings people to a developed area where there is infrastructure that allows remaining properties to the 00:48:09
county to remain. 00:48:13
To remain open and undeveloped. 00:48:17
Strengthen development Development toward existing communities. 00:48:20
Again at Highlander Point. 00:48:23
We're at Highlander Point. 00:48:25
And then? 00:48:28
Encourage community and stakeholder collaboration. 00:48:30
You have a very interactive process, as you know with TRC meetings. 00:48:33
We took that TRC meeting and those comments from that TRC meeting to heart. 00:48:36
And made very significant changes to the plan. 00:48:40
The original proposal was, I think, about 156 multifamily dwellings, dwelling units. 00:48:43
And a comparable number of retail. 00:48:48
The developer shrunk that to 125, split the bank out, per TRC comments. 00:48:51
Added the buffering we'll talk about. 00:48:55
So he's listening is the point. He's listening and adapting. 00:48:58
Theme places to live a lot again, a lot of those. 00:49:02
Objectives from the goals meet this this project. I can give you copies of this. 00:49:07
When we're finished. 00:49:12
Promoting locally grown and owned. 00:49:13
It is anticipated that a lot of these retail establishments will be local businesses, locally owned businesses. 00:49:16
We're thinking the bank is going to be a relatively small regional bank. 00:49:22
Not a necessarily a National Bank. 00:49:26
Then your comp plan says direct hire residential developments toward areas of the proximity to adequate infrastructure and public 00:49:30
services. 00:49:33
Where appropriate, higher density. 00:49:36
Patio homes. Multi family development should be directed toward established urban areas based on proximity to existing services 00:49:38
and density. 00:49:42
Multi family development should be limited to area to areas where they're again access to commercial. 00:49:45
Surrounded by utilities. 00:49:51
The comp plan designates the Highlander Point as a commercial growth area. 00:49:54
Everyone realizes that. 00:49:58
A commercial should be. 00:50:01
Targeted toward Highlander. The Highlander Point corridor specifically says that. 00:50:02
This is the Georgetown Township excerpt from the comp plan. 00:50:07
That that. 00:50:11
Dark dark box in the upper right hand corner is the location of this. 00:50:12
The comp plan for Georgetown mostly focuses on the Edwardsville. 00:50:16
Gateway and the Edwardsville Interchange because this site really is more closely related to the Lafayette Township. The east 00:50:20
boundary of This site is Lafayette Township. 00:50:25
So this is the Lafayette Township map. 00:50:30
Map with the box showing the area again. It shows that as an intense development area by your comp plan. 00:50:32
Future land use in Georgetown Township would be directed toward existing infrastructure. That's a theme throughout your comp plan. 00:50:40
I'll try and skip that. 00:50:44
Commercial again at. 00:50:49
And this is average for Gateway for Georgetown? 00:50:50
Same language in Lafayette even says similar to Georgetown. 00:50:53
And then future commercial will be located at Hallander Point. 00:50:57
Properties already zoned commercial, but we are. 00:51:00
Continuing to implement. 00:51:03
Commercial element. 00:51:04
This project. 00:51:06
Current conditions and structures. 00:51:07
Again, there there is quite a bit of development happening and that has happened around this area. 00:51:09
You have Highlander Point Commercial. 00:51:14
District East. 00:51:16
You have additional commercial just east of this with the gas station. 00:51:17
Williamsburg Station, the bank that's coming in. 00:51:21
This project, as Nick said, would. 00:51:25
It's a nice transition from. 00:51:28
Commercial. Intense commercial. 00:51:30
Through higher density residential to lower density, even though it's still your residential urban. 00:51:31
Zoning. 00:51:37
And then this is a rendering of the building which you've seen in the package. 00:51:38
It is a very similar to what you see right across the street. 00:51:42
So the subdivision it is 2 commercial lots. 00:51:49
Would be a new road connecting the stub and villas of Floyd Knobs to Schreiber. 00:51:51
And if the MF and PUD MF are approved, the subdivision would meet all your requirements. 00:51:56
John talked about what a PUD means. 00:52:06
So the PUD in this particular case also. 00:52:09
Satisfies the development plan. I'll mention that later, but keep in mind when I'm talking about these PUD plans, I'm also talking 00:52:12
about the development plan. 00:52:15
Again, this is the engineering. 00:52:19
Site plan to support the development plan and the PUD. 00:52:21
It does feature the three buildings. 00:52:25
Also, it features the amenities. There's a swimming pool plan on lot 1. 00:52:27
There's an outdoor kitchen and outdoor seating and the outdoor games area that Mister Creeby mentioned earlier. 00:52:32
As well as open space to the West. 00:52:37
That those facilities are intended to serve both. 00:52:40
Both Watts in the neighborhood. 00:52:44
Same parameters I listed earlier. 00:52:47
There are two entrances from Lot 11 onto the proposed road and one on to Tuscany. 00:52:50
There are three interests from Lot 2, one on to Shriver and two onto the proposed roadway. 00:52:55
There are pedestrian walks and crossings throughout the site. 00:53:00
One interesting feature of the site is that is that once the traffic signal is installed at Schreiber. 00:53:02
That has pedestrian crosswalks included as part of the project. 00:53:09
You'll be able to walk from villas of Floyd Knobs or the Highlands all the way to anywhere you want to go in Highlander Point. 00:53:12
It's going to, it's going to facilitate pedestrian access for that whole region. 00:53:18
Again, the amenities on Lot 1. 00:53:23
Parking. 00:53:26
Lot 1. We've allocated 50 spaces for the proposed retail bank. 00:53:28
That leaves 1100. 00:53:33
111 spaces for the multifamily which is 1.88. 00:53:35
Spaces per dwelling unit. 00:53:38
127 spaces on Lot 2. 00:53:40
Which? 00:53:43
Yields 1.92 spaces per dwelling unit. 00:53:44
Mr. Creeby mentioned that your ordinance requires 2.5 spaces per dwelling unit. It makes no distinction as to whether they're one 00:53:47
bedroom or two-bedroom. 00:53:51
I personally believe that's overparked. 00:53:55
I did pick up the. 00:53:58
Institute of Traffic Engineers Parking generation manual. 00:54:00
They indicate that retail is. 00:54:03
5.45 spaces per 1000 square foot of retail, which would be 6 about 62 spaces required. 00:54:07
One bedroom units are 1.38 spaces per unit. 00:54:13
And a two-bedroom unit is 2.08 spaces per unit. 00:54:17
Using a total requirement per ITE. 00:54:19
About 265 and we're providing 288. 00:54:22
And I can give you copies of this. 00:54:26
After the presentation. 00:54:27
Lot area. 00:54:30
So lot 1. 00:54:31
The the pool and the recreation area to me should be included in open space. 00:54:33
If you don't include it in open space. 00:54:37
Or if you we have 68.8% impervious area. 00:54:40
If you do include it as open space, we have 61.5. 00:54:44
The MF ordinance require it allows 65. 00:54:48
Lot 2 we have a 71.5. 00:54:52
Making an overall of 69.85. 00:54:55
Or if you exclude the right out the recreation area is 65.4 so very close to what MF? 00:54:58
Would otherwise allow. 00:55:04
We do have significant landscaping and as Mr. Crete. 00:55:06
We do meet the ordinance as far as plantings along the roadways. 00:55:09
Parking lot screening and parking islands with plantings. 00:55:13
And then we did add the buffer along the West side for bills of fluid knobs. 00:55:17
With a wall that is concrete. 00:55:22
With plantings behind it, which is specified as a type 2 buffer. 00:55:24
We did not do that along. 00:55:28
The South Side. 00:55:30
I spoke with Mr. Tieneman after we received Mr. Kibe staff report. He is willing to do that but he would like to make a change. 00:55:32
Previously, the wall was planned to be brick on both sides. 00:55:39
He spent a lot of time in Florida lately and they have products there that would be concrete walls with stucco. 00:55:42
On either side that are still very attractive. 00:55:48
And so. 00:55:51
He would extend this wall to be 300 feet. 00:55:52
Along the South line. 00:55:54
There's a Creek that runs from that wider island there. 00:55:56
We can. Once you get past that Creek, it really doesn't make sense to buffer that area. So he would extend the buffer the wall. 00:55:59
That extra 300 feet with the plantings and that would then meet the requirements of type 2. 00:56:05
That that about 70 foot stretch. 00:56:10
On the east side of the Creek would not, but we still have the plantings there. 00:56:12
And you can see that's the front yard of the neighbor. 00:56:16
It should be less intrusive to him at that area. 00:56:20
The lighting plan meets the standards of the ordinance. No no fixture is taller than 20 feet and it's all down lighting. 00:56:24
These are the proposed lighting fixtures. 00:56:31
Just so we're showing a unified. 00:56:33
Design The sign plan meets the requirements of the ordinance. There are two monument signs, one at Tuscany and one at Knox Lane 00:56:35
Knox Landing Blvd. at Schreiber. 00:56:41
And all the building signage would comply with the existing sign against. 00:56:46
Ordinance the building facades. It's an attractive building. It meets the state requirements of the Highlander Point Overlay 00:56:50
District. 00:56:53
Brick, stone and Hardy. 00:56:57
You've seen that. 00:56:59
This is a blow up of the building 1. 00:57:01
Rendering This is a blow up of the Building 2 rendering which is on the South lot. 00:57:04
And this is the the bank with building one in the background. 00:57:08
OK. So common concerns that we hear always traffic. I know you've heard it from the audience today. 00:57:15
I'm not sure how many people are aware, but the county is planning to install a traffic signal at Shriver and Old Vincennes. 00:57:20
That has been in the plan. They're also upgrading Open Olden Sins. 00:57:27
The traffic study indicates that. 00:57:30
The intersections as proposed in the design year for original traffic study will also operate an acceptable level. 00:57:33
With additional traffic from this proposed development. 00:57:38
Drainage Fluke County is the most stringent drainage requirements in the region. 00:57:41
We anticipate stormwater and underground detention facilities circled there in the light blue. 00:57:46
That that wider island that you saw is the discharge town. 00:57:52
And then the county had commissioned a study for this whole area back in 2021. 00:57:56
That showed if development continued in accordance with your stormwater ordinance, that things will get better overtime. 00:58:01
Questions. 00:58:09
OK, you didn't do bad. You missed about 15 seconds. Sorry about that. 00:58:11
I do have a question OK, any that's why any questions for Mr. 00:58:15
I'm a little unclear on your on your wall. 00:58:20
On your wall. 00:58:23
Are you leaving Brick at Tuscany? 00:58:25
Are you switching it wanting to switch it all to the stucco wall? 00:58:27
He would request that we could switch it all to the stucco wall. 00:58:32
Because of the additional length. 00:58:35
That's a request. 00:58:37
So when you're you're saying 300 feet. 00:58:38
This is the additional approximately 300 feet. 00:58:41
Cortana. 00:58:46
That's the landscape plan. This is the 300 feet you're talking about, correct? 00:58:48
It's it's this. 00:58:52
It's this area here. 00:58:53
Just that's that's turned, yes, just short of that wider island there. 00:58:56
You do show. 00:59:03
60 foot of a vinyl fence. 00:59:06
Oh. 00:59:09
That's for parking lot screening. 00:59:10
Your ordinance requires a three foot understand why is it there? 00:59:13
I'm just wondering if we should make it. 00:59:18
Match the rest of the ball. 00:59:20
Question something? 00:59:23
Instead of final, maybe 60 feet. 00:59:26
I, I'm going to, I'm going to step out on a limb and say, well, that's. 00:59:29
I just think it ought to match I guess. 00:59:34
No problem. 00:59:36
My first meeting SO. 00:59:39
Indulge me, what were you talking about the fence parking lot then? 00:59:44
There. 00:59:49
There's a little piece of fence right here. 00:59:51
That's supposed to be final. 00:59:54
You're in the part of our ordinance says you've got to screen the parking lot. 00:59:56
Correct. The ordinance requires any parking that faces a street or a neighbor has to be screened with three foot tall shrubs. 00:59:59
Over 3 foot tall fence. 01:00:06
So we can't fit shrubs in that area because it's tied up to the right of way. 01:00:08
So I was proposing a fence. 01:00:11
Battle. If it has to be a wall, I don't. 01:00:13
I think that's a yeah. 01:00:16
Yeah, understood. 01:00:18
Yeah, this may be a question for the developer, but in terms of the. 01:00:20
Target renter. 01:00:24
Are we looking at Class A facilities or what kind of amenities, what kind of people are we targeting? 01:00:26
To inhabit the buildings, what he's told me is granite countertops, you know, very nice facilities. I think he's targeting the 01:00:31
minimum rent to be 1500. 01:00:35
For a one bedroom. 01:00:40
Well, give me a. 01:00:42
All right. Anybody else? 01:00:46
I do have one question, the Connector Rd. that's that is proposed, will there be parking allowed on that road? No. OK. Will you 01:00:51
make sure that that's. 01:00:56
Either signage or somehow. 01:01:01
Make sure that doesn't happen because I could see that. 01:01:03
In advance I could get. 01:01:06
Crowded. 01:01:08
All right, go ahead next. 01:01:10
That will be a county. 01:01:14
Road County. 01:01:15
Oh, it's Canada. 01:01:17
They will. They'll. 01:01:19
It'll be dedicated to the county after it's called, so it's dedicated to the county. 01:01:21
OK, All right. Makes it so we'll let Frank make that decision. 01:01:26
No. 01:01:33
Oh, I meant to start out. 01:01:35
And say that. 01:01:40
I appreciate all the changes that were made, I think. 01:01:42
Several of the comments came from me about. 01:01:47
Moving the bank and. 01:01:49
All of that and I think it's a much improved plan over what was originally presented, so. 01:01:50
You reduce the number of apartments, you move the bank. 01:01:57
So I do like to plan much better than was originally submitted. 01:02:01
Great. Thank you. 01:02:05
All right. At this time, what we'd like to do. 01:02:07
And and just I'd like for everybody just be respectful. 01:02:10
And kind of hold your comments down, if you will. 01:02:13
We're going to we're going to open up 20 minute session. 01:02:16
For anybody that like to speak in favor of this project, come forward in favor. 01:02:19
In favor. 01:02:24
OK, state your name. 01:02:26
I'd like to thank them for all the wonderful. I need your name and address, I'm sorry. 01:02:30
OK. 01:02:35
And I have an 8047 Schreiber Rd. 01:02:36
But I am speaking in favor of this project. I respect the wonderful things he has provided our community. 01:02:39
So I will say thank you for that, but. 01:02:47
You know, we don't always build wonderful things. I'm gonna support something that's not so wonderful because I can think of. 01:02:50
1019 people you know since. 01:02:56
Friday night. 01:02:59
That think this is a bad idea. 01:03:00
So I think he'll need a little support. 01:03:02
I'll say that the idea that they didn't have enough room to put shrubbery behind the fence, it's laughable. 01:03:04
The idea that. 01:03:10
You know pedestrians will be playing in a roundabout. 01:03:11
That's going to be built in the future. 01:03:15
Is asinine. 01:03:17
I mean, I know you all might have agendas or might have your minds made-up, but this is a bad idea. This does not. 01:03:19
I don't know if you read the same comprehensive plan that I did the same, you know, Highlander point. 01:03:26
Gateway plan that I read, but I guess it's up for interpretation. 01:03:32
This is zoning change. 01:03:36
I don't believe. 01:03:38
That that zoning change fits the vision that you had been outlaid. 01:03:39
That I read about. 01:03:43
I can say that. 01:03:45
When I read about the Highlander point plan. 01:03:46
It was unfavorable to have multifamily housing in that area. That was the least. 01:03:49
The least liked proposal. 01:03:53
So what's changed? 01:03:55
We don't need the destination. 01:03:57
You know, if you have pedestrians, it's going to be even more chaos. 01:04:00
And it's already bad and terrible traffic. 01:04:04
I like this area. This is a great area. I think we are going to be. 01:04:07
Value is by allowing this to go through. 01:04:10
So I implore you, please. 01:04:13
Don't. 01:04:16
Don't let this happen. 01:04:17
This is a nice place. We should have nice places. People should aspire to be in nice places. We want to encourage home ownership, 01:04:20
not rental. OK, I'm going to cut you. Cut you off. 01:04:25
I think you've taken. 01:04:30
More in an opposition side than a favorable side, so. 01:04:32
But we'll. 01:04:35
We'll let you come back up and take the time away from the opposition if you want to. I'm just trying to be fair here. 01:04:36
Thank you very much. 01:04:42
This is in favor. 01:04:43
Please. 01:04:44
More than in the favor. 01:04:45
I'm saying your name and your address. Brian's are sweet. OK, I live in the house South. 01:04:47
If you bring the picture back up, just tell us your address please. 01:04:54
It's 5007 over in Saints Row, its original house. Go ahead. 01:04:57
Main road was my driveway. 01:05:02
OK. 01:05:05
If she can get rid of the thing up there. 01:05:06
You just go ahead with your comments please. What I'm trying to do is. 01:05:10
You're changing the. 01:05:14
The Creek you're putting. 01:05:15
660 inch pipes in. 01:05:18
It's going to come down to my driveway, which is a 24 inch. I'm going to have to stop you too. It sounds like you're in 01:05:22
opposition. 01:05:25
No, no, no, I'm not in opposition. 01:05:28
Get this on the record. 01:05:31
Why the engineers people were here and the developers. Do you have some positive to say about this project? I'm just trying to get 01:05:33
you to let me tell you what I need to do because I'm the guy on the side that's going to be effective. OK, I'm going to ask you to 01:05:39
come up when the opposition time comes up, if you don't mind, Sir. 01:05:45
You're talking, I'm just trying to explain to me what. 01:05:51
I want you to put in. 01:05:55
For the engineers to do, it's not going to be a. 01:05:57
You know, either would. 01:06:00
Yeah, it's just trying to tell you. Do you have something to say in favor of this petition? 01:06:01
Is the question yes or no? 01:06:07
If you do, say it. 01:06:10
I'm Either way, you need to sit down, Sir. Thank you very much for your time. 01:06:11
Winner, Let me one more. 01:06:16
Officer, would you please remove this man from this meeting? 01:06:18
All because I live next door. 01:06:25
I asked you to sit down three times, Sir. I'm sorry. 01:06:28
All right, one more, one more time. 01:06:34
Is there anybody that has anything that they like to say in favor of this project? Please come forward. 01:06:36
In favor. 01:06:42
Please umm. 01:06:44
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a process and please respect it. 01:06:47
We're just, we're doing a job up here. If we're trying to do our job, please let us do it. That's all I ask you. 01:06:50
We're going to give everybody the same respect. 01:06:56
That's all I ask you to do. 01:06:58
Anybody else in favor of this, please step forward. 01:07:00
OK. Is there any Sherry? 01:07:03
We got we got an off site location because. 01:07:07
Our elevator is broke down. Sherry, would you come forward and tell us whether we have somebody there once I speak in favor of 01:07:11
this? 01:07:14
No, you do not. OK. Thank you, Sherry. Appreciate. 01:07:19
OK at this time. 01:07:23
If you will start the. 01:07:26
Go ahead. Laram, Sarah. 01:07:27
I will. I will. 01:07:31
At this time we start the timer for the opposition And what I asked. 01:07:32
Hold on. 01:07:37
Please give us a minute here. 01:07:37
What I ask you to do is. 01:07:40
For the for the courtesy of people that want to speak. 01:07:42
If somebody already brought something up about. 01:07:45
The traffic. 01:07:47
Are something that drainage or something that? 01:07:49
Please don't repeat it, save room for somebody has something new to say but. 01:07:51
At that point this gentleman. 01:07:55
Right here, if you will. 01:07:57
Remember, there's people behind you, so give us give them time, please. And we do just so that everybody's on the same page. We do 01:07:59
have a time limit. It's 20 minutes. 01:08:03
That is for everyone that wishes to speak in opposition so. 01:08:07
It's 10 minutes normally on our PER. 01:08:12
For our requirements. 01:08:15
Well I think what they see is so on the screen it does say 10. That is because it only allows her to do 10. So when it hits 10 she 01:08:17
will reset it for another 10 so. 01:08:21
That is for everyone, not for each person. Yeah, we will get back to 20. It's just thank you. 01:08:26
My name is Bill Emerson. I live at 339 Custody Drive in the village of Floyd's Knobs. 01:08:33
We bought our. 01:08:39
Lot in 2020 and. 01:08:40
Don theme and build up. 01:08:43
House quality house that we wanted. 01:08:44
During our meeting with Mr. Theme and we asked what he would be building on the adjacent property. 01:08:47
Which we're talking about today. 01:08:53
He said. 01:08:55
Build a medical services building along old business ends and might build a senior community with possible assisted living 01:08:57
community. 01:09:00
On the rest of the acreage? 01:09:04
That sounded good to us. 01:09:06
We love living the village of Floyd's Knobs. 01:09:08
Walk me to our location for the convenience of having amenities that we wanted nearby. 01:09:11
I would much rather the Don Theman build what he suggested to us. 01:09:17
Rather than the. 01:09:22
I do not support the project as presented tonight. 01:09:25
I would really like to see. 01:09:29
Mr. Thieneman. 01:09:32
Complete the villas. 01:09:33
Rather than us having to continue to live in the construction. 01:09:35
Zone site. They're in Phillips. 01:09:39
I like the houses he builds, he does a great job. 01:09:44
But if you drove up into the villas or you drove over to the other. 01:09:47
Project over in Georgetown. 01:09:51
It's an unfinished project. 01:09:53
And and those of us who live there. 01:09:55
Are really held hostage? 01:09:58
By an unfinished project where we can't have our own homeowners association until Dawn finishes the project. 01:10:00
I really wish you all would put something in. 01:10:07
And your bylaws or whatever if a project is started. 01:10:10
Then it needs to be finished at some particular point. 01:10:15
Our development was not that large that it couldn't be finished. 01:10:19
And the and the other piece of that is. 01:10:23
The walkability. 01:10:25
We have sidewalks once our house is built. 01:10:27
But we have large amounts of space in our in our. 01:10:31
On Tuscany. On Milan. 01:10:34
That we have to walk in the street. 01:10:36
So it's a walkability neighborhood. 01:10:38
But Don hasn't finished the sidewalks. 01:10:41
That are that need to be finished they cross the line across Tuscany so anyway. 01:10:45
I do not agree with Mr. Cooperates to comment about. 01:10:52
This states that the rezoning would not be injurious to the value of the profit in the area. 01:10:56
Come on, when did you ever put apartments next to? 01:11:02
Houses and never lowered the property. 01:11:06
And I'd say the same thing there. 01:11:09
You put apartments next to houses, you lower the property. 01:11:11
I'm grateful that the original location of the bank. 01:11:16
Has been moved. I'm glad that the project is not as large as it once was. I appreciate that. 01:11:19
The change in the fence. 01:11:27
I want the masonry brick fence. 01:11:29
I'm with the masonry. 01:11:32
I don't want the stucco fence. I've seen them. Nice. 01:11:35
But what? 01:11:39
We have is. 01:11:40
I want the brick fence. 01:11:42
My biggest concern about the project. 01:11:46
Is. 01:11:49
The dumpsters. 01:11:50
One of them is right there at the entrance to Tuscany Drive. 01:11:52
Right by very first house on the left on Tuscany. 01:11:56
You've got a you've got a 24 foot dumpster corral. 01:12:01
And then right behind the winnings house back there on the second building be built. 01:12:05
Also is a large dumpster corral right behind those homes? 01:12:10
I don't want I don't know how often they pick up those dumpsters and apartments, whether that's once a week or. 01:12:16
Three times a week. 01:12:21
I just I don't want the. 01:12:23
This put the dumpsters. 01:12:25
Does your way? 01:12:27
Sir, you have to talk to us. You can't talk to anybody. I'm sorry. 01:12:32
Move the dumpsters. 01:12:42
Move the dump. 01:12:44
And if you move the dumpsters. 01:12:45
I can. I can probably live with it. 01:12:47
That I don't like where the dumpsters are at all for the people in the village of Floyd's Knobs. 01:12:49
So anyway, I would encourage you to make those changes before you vote tonight. 01:12:57
All right. Thank you, Bill. 01:13:01
All right, come forward. State your name and address for us, Sir. 01:13:03
10th Interest Property owner .740 N Luther Rd. I cannot think of anything that would cause more problems. 01:13:06
On old Vincennes Rd. in the traffic flow then this project right here. 01:13:13
It is time for the people to speak up. 01:13:18
We have a nightmare there, we all know it. 01:13:20
We all know it, the change in zoning. 01:13:24
Is wrong. 01:13:26
Is wrong. Saying pedestrian traffic can crossover Vincent's road is crazy. 01:13:28
Somebody's gonna die. 01:13:33
I drive that bus through there twice a day and it is a nightmare. 01:13:35
Now I need that. 01:13:39
Were certified letters. 01:13:40
Sent out for this yet? 01:13:42
For affected property owners in here. 01:13:44
No, we're just OK. 01:13:46
You want that? You want me to answer that? 01:13:48
Yeah, go ahead. OK. Have they been sent out? 01:13:50
Yes, they have. 01:13:53
Yes. 01:13:55
Just us. 01:13:57
Personally, pardon me, was there a list? The reason I ask is this in the past? 01:13:59
You see, they were sent out. I can take the past 10 years. 01:14:04
I was always included because if you go too deep on that. 01:14:07
Especially because of the drainage problem. 01:14:11
I want to see. 01:14:14
Really tough drainage plan. 01:14:16
I want to see it. 01:14:19
You held it up. 01:14:21
On the on the. 01:14:22
Project before over there. 01:14:25
The Highlands. 01:14:27
And this here, I catch 8, I catch 90% of this. You all know that everybody knows. 01:14:29
But I don't want to see a change in zoning here. 01:14:34
We have enough problems on Old Vincent's Road. 01:14:37
Here's a great example very quickly. 01:14:41
22 Prosser buses leave Floyd Central at. 01:14:44
7:30. 01:14:48
In the morning. 01:14:50
They have to fight to get the OH Vincent Rd. They have to fight to get 150 interchange. By the time they get them through 01:14:52
Charlestown Road and down to Prosser, it's time to bring them home. Education is slipping in this county because of them. 01:14:59
Things like that. Right now I asked for a. 01:15:06
Negative. 01:15:09
Recommendation for this? 01:15:11
No more traffic. 01:15:12
No more building in that area. 01:15:15
Thank you, Mr. 01:15:16
Your name and address please. 01:15:21
Names Andrew Gromac. I live at 8042 Tribal Rd. in the islands UMM. 01:15:23
Evening Commission Board, Real quick, I have a question for you. I just moved here from Arizona in August. 01:15:28
Are you guys elected officials? 01:15:34
Or just how does that work? Everybody at this table is appointed except. 01:15:36
Point on this board. 01:15:42
On this board is appointed OK, OK, so you're not this general right here you want to buy the he's appointed. 01:15:43
OK. Yes, Sir. Well, the reason I bring that up is. 01:15:49
As of. 01:15:51
Just before this meeting, if you go to Change.org, there is 1017 signatures. 01:15:52
From this area that are opposed to this development plan. 01:15:58
Coming from Arizona, where I live is the 4th largest metropolitan area in the United States right now. 01:16:04
I moved in an area that was. 01:16:09
Semi rural. 01:16:11
And watch apartment buildings go up around my my house year after year after year. Over 15 years went from non. 01:16:12
No crime at all. 01:16:20
To prime rampant throughout my area. 01:16:21
The average rent in my neighborhood in the Highlands, I'd have to say is anywhere from. 01:16:25
Mortgage is 2500 to mine is just a little over 3000. 01:16:30
When you're putting. 01:16:34
Apartments up here. 01:16:36
These people don't have any skin in the game. They don't own the area that will own their apartments. They don't have any 01:16:38
incentive to take care of the area. 01:16:41
So besides the traffic, that's already been discussed. 01:16:45
And everything else. 01:16:48
I'm politely asking. 01:16:49
The board to vote nay on this as well. 01:16:51
I'm telling you guys that. 01:16:54
The Knobs area moved in here because it's rural enough. 01:16:55
Where it's semi big city but not big city. You start doing this, the domino effect is going to happen and I promise you guys 01:16:58
you're not going to like the outcome. 01:17:02
Thank you. Thank you, Sir. 01:17:05
Restate your name and address for the address. 01:17:11
It's a good thing we're all here right now, because we'd all be stuck at the light at 1:50 for another 5 or 6 more turns if we 01:17:15
were all heading home right now. 01:17:20
I don't trust a word that the theemans say. If anybody knows what has happened, up it. 01:17:25
Heritage Springs neighborhood that he was able to swindle a Dollar General and duplexes. 01:17:30
After his plans already went through. 01:17:35
I know the neighborhood. 01:17:38
Residents tried to fight him on that and somehow he had wording that. 01:17:39
Was able to get through and so that. 01:17:43
Didn't workout well for them. 01:17:45
I have more concern with my schools. 01:17:47
My kids and I have all gone through Naomi Blue County Schools. We had the largest middle school in the state of Indiana, which is 01:17:50
not a record I would like to hold. 01:17:54
Because it's way too many kids. 01:17:59
There's not a cap size on classrooms in the state of Indiana, which is also a problem to me because I'm pretty sure the fire 01:18:02
department should have one. 01:18:05
But you putting in all of these? 01:18:10
Residential apartments is going to just. 01:18:12
Ruin. I asked. 01:18:16
Ruin the class sizes for one. I mean, the teachers are already capped, they can't handle anymore. 01:18:18
The kids can't get through lunch lines. 01:18:23
Because they are in the longest lunch line ever, they can't sit there and eat. Your kids will come home and tell you that they 01:18:25
didn't get to eat lunch today because the line was so long. The buses are so full. 01:18:31
You've been into JC or tried to get something at the pharmacy. You're in a 40 minute line trying to cash out. 01:18:38
And get your prescriptions picked up because the grocery store can't handle the population that's already there. 01:18:44
So it's not just about the traffic, it's about the schools, it's about the community that we've tried to keep. 01:18:50
And businesses maybe would be OK in that space. 01:18:57
But that many apartments is just a ridiculous amount of people moving into our area. 01:19:01
And you can say you did a traffic study. 01:19:07
I don't believe it at all. 01:19:10
And then there's word that you're not going to let they're going to change the traffic pattern to where you can't go straight 01:19:11
across Walgreens. 01:19:15
Across 150 that they're going to change it to turn and go up. 01:19:20
To your girls Rd. up to 1 old Vincennes the other way and have to try. 01:19:23
Turn around. That makes no sense, but I heard that today from Qatar construction people. 01:19:27
So. 01:19:32
Obviously not in favor of this and I think more. 01:19:34
My kids school. 01:19:37
Than anything at this point. 01:19:38
Thank you. Thank you, Taylor. 01:19:40
I am speaking in the proper time now. My name is Aaron Jones, 8047 Trevor Rd. 01:19:47
There are individuals that approach me that have been unable to sign this petition for one reason or another, whether they do not 01:19:53
have. 01:19:56
This dude or did not want to, but similar number here. 01:19:59
So I just want to state that. 01:20:02
But I'll say that. 01:20:04
From where I where I moved from? 01:20:05
We are very familiar with this issue. 01:20:07
I worked very hard to be here. 01:20:09
I did my research. I looked at the zoning. I looked at hydrology. I looked at traffic studies. I studied. 01:20:12
I believed in this community. 01:20:18
I truly did. I wanted to be here. I chose to be here. 01:20:19
I worked my **** off to be. 01:20:22
So my family would happen. 01:20:24
Access to better opportunities than I did. 01:20:25
Coming from Jefferson County, they built. 01:20:28
This low income, luxury whatever apartments everywhere around me within the South end of Louisville. 01:20:30
And you can see how well that's going for them. 01:20:35
And how the problems that they have. And I ask you, do you want to be like Louisville? I have faith in you all. 01:20:37
I feel like we can be better than Louisville. I'm not saying we are better, I'm just saying that. 01:20:43
Our government. 01:20:46
Can work better than rules because we can all see how the government is working. We do not want to be like Louisville. I am a 01:20:47
refugee. 01:20:50
I literally. 01:20:54
Don't want to be back right where I was. 01:20:55
And once this goes through, it's gonna set precedent work to keep happening and we do not want to devalue our area, whether that 01:20:58
be New Albany here there. 01:21:02
We have something beautiful that works. We can make it work. 01:21:06
But if we. 01:21:10
Changing areas that don't need changing. 01:21:11
In ways that. 01:21:13
We don't support. 01:21:14
It doesn't make sense. 01:21:15
He could put this anywhere. This is 6 acres. There are other parcels. 01:21:17
And this is zoned. 01:21:21
In a way that does not support this. 01:21:23
So. 01:21:25
I don't know why this is an argument. 01:21:26
I know he has every right. I think I believe in the free market. I only tell him he can't tell what he wants to. 01:21:28
But I believe in the zoning. That's why I bought my house. 01:21:32
It's commercial. I don't have to worry about this. 01:21:35
But now I'm in the same boat. 01:21:38
That's just. 01:21:40
I'm sorry that is. 01:21:41
It is sickening to me. 01:21:43
I'm Scott Sugar, I live at 6378 old Vincennes Rd. 01:21:52
I retired up here from the Army as a engineer officer. 01:21:57
I am going to touch on a little bit of what some of the other people. 01:22:01
And spoke about. 01:22:04
But really what I'm going to do is I'm going to ask some questions that I think every. 01:22:06
One for the traffic study. 01:22:11
Everyone that drives that area goes through those intersections. 01:22:13
At 1:50 no Vincents. 01:22:16
They know what chaos it is at certain times of day. 01:22:18
For a lot of people it is a stressful. 01:22:21
Event just going through. 01:22:23
That intersection. 01:22:25
Making it past Highlander Point headed down to the school. 01:22:27
The other thing I want everybody. 01:22:30
School buses go through there every day. 01:22:32
And. 01:22:37
Everybody who has a student down there at Highland Hills. 01:22:39
Or at Void Central. 01:22:42
Every day we get calls about the school bus situation. 01:22:44
Routes canceled. 01:22:48
This and. 01:22:49
And it's usually two to three a day, honestly. 01:22:50
So that's one challenge. 01:22:52
And this will impact. 01:22:54
The challenges that. 01:22:56
The Floyd County school system has. 01:22:58
With uh. 01:23:00
School traffic, School bus traffic, getting kids to school sometimes. 01:23:01
It's a safety concern. 01:23:05
The question I have is with that traffic study. 01:23:07
Did they account in that traffic study for all the other construction that's going to be going on? 01:23:10
Up just north of. 01:23:15
The JC. 01:23:17
Because. 01:23:21
You put this in, it's already going to overtax. 01:23:23
A stressful area right there. 01:23:27
That intersection. 01:23:29
Put even more construction in if there's already plans. 01:23:30
Multi Housing. 01:23:34
North of the JC? What kind of impact? 01:23:36
And a half of that intersection. 01:23:38
When we put the stop light in there. 01:23:41
That's already going to happen. 01:23:44
Act regardless of where you put this, intersect this. 01:23:46
Complex in there or not, it's already going to change the dynamic of that in the flow. 01:23:49
Off that intersection area and it's going to make more challenge to get through. 01:23:54
I think it's a bad idea. 01:23:59
To put. 01:24:02
This specific. 01:24:03
The housing. 01:24:07
And have this many people in this area. 01:24:09
Just simply because it's. 01:24:13
Challenges it's going to have on those intersections. 01:24:14
And I know. 01:24:18
You know, we all look at growth in the area. 01:24:19
We know what's coming. 01:24:21
But we've got to fix the plan for it. 01:24:23
I don't think that this meets the test as far as effectively. 01:24:26
That's just my thank you. 01:24:32
My name is Clyde Harrelson. I live off of Buck Creek, so I'm a. 01:24:39
Couple miles from the place. 01:24:42
But I shot that area. I shot the bank. 01:24:44
Why do we need apartments in an area? 01:24:47
That has no apartments in it whatsoever. 01:24:50
And my main complaint that you all could use or the main complaint you could use is the parking. 01:24:52
Who has 1.8 vehicles in a home? 01:24:57
They're going to have two-bedroom apartments in there, 45 of them. 01:25:00
They'll have at least two cars, if not 3. 01:25:04
We went from three cars to two. 01:25:07
Just recently, but prior to that, we've always had three vehicles in our family. 01:25:09
And I think for no other reason, the parking. 01:25:13
Should turn this down if they put in a bank where there's a. 01:25:16
Three banks across the street. 01:25:19
Why do we need another bank here? 01:25:21
They're just they don't want to make the parking. 01:25:24
Fit that place because they're not going to make as much money. 01:25:26
But if they need to drop that another 50. 01:25:30
Units just to make the parking fee. 01:25:33
Clyde, sorry, before you leave, what's your address please? 01:25:36
4059 Tanglewood Dr. 01:25:39
South of Buck Creek. 01:25:41
All right. Thank you. Glad. 01:25:43
OK, great. Ladies first. 01:25:46
Theresa Temple, 3 to 5 Tuscany Drive. 01:25:49
Boys knobs. 01:25:52
You turn down Don's. 01:25:55
Approval for apartment staff in 2014, did you not? 01:25:57
And he offered. 01:26:00
To build our homes. 01:26:02
55 and older. 01:26:03
Didn't workout. 01:26:05
Now it's all families, which is fine. 01:26:06
They're supposed to be single family dwellings. Ends up being. 01:26:08
One family that has three families living in it. 01:26:12
And then the drainage. 01:26:15
Back behind where you got. 01:26:16
The 301 start with 301. 01:26:19
All the way down past where Donnie lives because he lives in our subdivision. 01:26:22
All that drainage back there, their yards are all wet all the time. 01:26:26
They're never, they're never dry. 01:26:30
Florence Hampton had to pick up. 01:26:32
All her flips. 01:26:34
Stuff in the backyard because it wouldn't have them and stick or grow. 01:26:36
Anyway, you're turning down in 2014 for apartments. 01:26:39
Turning down again, I like Donnie. 01:26:41
He builds a really good homes. 01:26:44
In our subdivision. 01:26:46
And he hasn't finished what he needs to do. 01:26:48
And we know that the grocery store will have a small JC store if you all well know. 01:26:50
Now it can't. It can't accommodate all these people. 01:26:55
You know. 01:26:58
Make a strip mall like he promised. He said he was going to do our a medical stability or something to that effect. But apartments 01:26:59
are only going to cause more crime. You know, one of the things the Floyd County Sheriff's told me. 01:27:04
That our subdivision was one of the safest subdivisions. 01:27:09
Because Tuscany draft. 01:27:13
Was one way in and one way out. 01:27:14
Do you not agree with that? 01:27:17
And now you're getting. 01:27:19
All these intersections. 01:27:20
Criminals are coming across the bridge. 01:27:22
Coming in all of our subdivisions. 01:27:24
Because they've got all these little exits to go through. 01:27:26
Yeah, I'm not right. 01:27:29
I mean, it's true. 01:27:31
And we've had several cars broken into even in our subject. 01:27:32
Donnie's head stuff stolen from his subdivision, but. 01:27:35
You know, you just can't keep building all this. 01:27:39
Apartments and it's just gonna bring our. 01:27:41
Our values down. 01:27:44
And we don't want to. We just don't want it. 01:27:45
All right. Thank you. 01:27:47
We got we got a minute left. Go ahead, Sir. 01:27:52
My name is Spencer Worth and I live at 8040 Schriever. 01:27:54
You don't have to. 01:27:57
Forgive me for my quick talk, my quick speaking. 01:27:58
I agree with many of the points brought up by those behind me. 01:28:01
But one thing that I feel like hasn't been brought up is, or at least expounded upon, is the parking. 01:28:04
So if if the parking is not enough is not 2 1/2 per unit which my wife and I. 01:28:09
Have never had less than two cars. 01:28:15
Since we've been married. 01:28:17
Where are these industry cars going to go? 01:28:18
They're gonna be parking in these neighborhoods next door. 01:28:20
And people are that we don't know people who ties the community. 01:28:22
Are we walking through our neighborhoods back and forth? 01:28:26
And we have no recourse whatsoever. 01:28:28
Thank you. 01:28:30
Thank you. 01:28:31
All right, that closes this this portion if the applicant would like to come up. 01:28:34
And rebut what was spoken about. 01:28:39
You've got 5 minutes. 01:28:44
I'll speak very quickly. Just a couple things to deal with. I'm sorry, just a second. 01:28:47
Make sure nobody. 01:28:53
Yeah, we got opened up for down. Sorry. We just need to make sure to wait downstairs because the elevators out. 01:28:54
Do we have anybody downstairs? 01:29:00
In opposition? No, Sir. All right. Thank you. No, Sir. 01:29:02
Now you go. Thank you. Very, very quickly, a couple things that Mister Emerson brought up and I think it's important to address 1 01:29:06
primarily deals with. 01:29:11
The issue pertaining to. 01:29:17
Sidewalks, things of that nature and homeowners association keep in mind under the terms of the restrictive covenants with govern 01:29:19
that. 01:29:23
Homeowners association is not going to be formed till the last light sells. That's in their restrictions. The other piece of it 01:29:28
tends to be there is a non remonstrance clause in each of their subdivision restrictions specifically indicates that they would 01:29:32
not. 01:29:37
Opposed any type of development that Mister Athena would do on adjacent property. 01:29:42
Please let let him speak. It's unclear. 01:29:51
And there is a non remonstrance clause in that and they all took title subject to that. 01:29:53
A couple other items I think are important. Dealing with one gentleman that said he just moved up there, he moved into the 01:29:58
Highlands, which is the brand new subdivision, residential and he wanted rural. So again, I take a little exception to that. 01:30:05
The other piece that I think is important is. 01:30:12
The wide Shriver Road and the issue with regards to the traffic study. 01:30:15
It was done, and Mr. Copper Weight will probably talk about this as well, but it was done in anticipation of all of those. 01:30:19
Existing. 01:30:26
Developments as well as those that are already on the books as well as looking at this. So it's not a matter that they forgot 01:30:28
something. All of those developments were taken into consideration when they did that. 01:30:34
I'll let Jason speak on several of the other issues, but again, keep in mind that the restrictive governance primarily deal with 01:30:40
when that homeowners association is turned over and likewise when the sidewalks are finished when all of them lots of. 01:30:46
I do want to hit on the traffic study. Number one. It used to be that the developer would hire a traffic engineer to do the 01:30:55
traffic study. That is no longer the case. It is the county that hires the traffic engineer. So the developer has no influence 01:31:00
over the over the traffic study or the traffic engineer. 01:31:05
When they did their study at that I reviewed they did take into account all of the. 01:31:11
There's Gray woods just to the north of Highlander Point. There's a there was a patio home. 01:31:15
There were some proposals that were across Open Sins Rd. 01:31:21
There were some other things going on in the air. They took all that into account. 01:31:25
And of course, the traffic study reflects that the light is in place. 01:31:28
The lights not in place today. 01:31:31
We acknowledge that there are traffic issues there today. 01:31:33
But when the county finishes constructing that light, it's going to be a whole lot better, and the traffic study shows that. 01:31:36
Regarding drainage, I touched on that already. 01:31:45
Again, you have the most strict drainage ordinance in the region. 01:31:48
I think that's it, unless you have any questions. 01:31:52
Oh, wait, one more thing. I'm sorry. 01:31:57
Under the general commercial zone, your maximum impervious area is 70%. 01:31:59
Under the MF at 65%. 01:32:04
Under our PUD plan, it is less than 70%. 01:32:06
So we're going to be better on drainage just as a baseline. 01:32:09
Yeah, last individual be Daniel Moriarty. Daniel did the. 01:32:13
Project the design on it. Likewise, he's going to address some of the issues pertaining to the very same project that he's done 01:32:18
throughout Indianapolis area as well as other parts of the state. 01:32:23
State your name and address please. 01:32:28
3628. 01:32:30
Place in Carmel. 01:32:32
And obviously I'm not local so I can't speak to traffic issues and things are going on but. 01:32:33
I will say they do a lot of these projects around the. 01:32:39
Right bargains, though. 01:32:41
Westville. 01:32:42
South Bend, Fort Wayne, Bluffton. 01:32:44
All all around the state. 01:32:47
Always the same issues. 01:32:49
But the things I consistently see. 01:32:50
Number ones, we said traffic. 01:32:53
This there's. 01:32:55
Things are gonna happen. 01:32:56
This ground, regardless of what happens, time, right, something is going to be built by right. 01:32:57
That's not going to stop the traffic. 01:33:02
No matter what it is, it's gonna. 01:33:04
So if there's traffic issues in the area. 01:33:06
Those who are not my opinion, not the responsibility of this landowner to solve the. 01:33:08
For the county. 01:33:14
I mean that this developed something happening on this property. 01:33:15
Is something that. 01:33:19
Just. 01:33:21
Regardless of what it is, they're still going to be, it sounds like. 01:33:22
I'm not here for everybody. The issues. 01:33:25
So that was one thing. Secondly, I've got six kids, all six of living apartments. 01:33:28
Only once been arrested. 01:33:32
He lives at home with me right now. 01:33:33
So, umm. 01:33:35
There's no. 01:33:36
Evidence, at least in it. 01:33:37
Brand new development. This is a very high quality development and again I was working with a lot of people around the state. 01:33:39
The one thing about that the ambulance has been very refreshing. 01:33:45
There's a level of quality that they brought to this development. 01:33:48
Is very much higher. 01:33:51
Than what I hear from. 01:33:52
Every other builder on the state. 01:33:54
I'm not, I'm not just saying. 01:33:55
That's true. So. 01:33:57
So what happens? 01:33:58
Rent levels are such. 01:33:59
That if you want to say. 01:34:01
At least, and I'm sure some people know a lot better than I do, but I don't believe that just. 01:34:03
Those higher rent values necessarily bring crime with them. 01:34:07
The other thing is the missing middle missing gap. 01:34:12
For someone said there's no apartments in the area. 01:34:14
Well, kids need apartments. Younger people need apartments to make the transition from school where they had. 01:34:17
Ones to eventually have. 01:34:23
And if you don't have that high quality piece within your community? 01:34:25
Again, just watching it elsewhere. 01:34:30
That's that's it. That's. 01:34:32
Thank you very much. 01:34:35
Thank you. 01:34:36
No, Sir, you can't. I'm sorry. 01:34:40
I don't make the rules I thought. I try to follow them, Sir. 01:34:43
OK. 01:34:47
At that point, we're done with the petitions rebuttal. At this time, we're looking for ballots. 01:34:49
Unless you all have any questions. Unless you have any questions. 01:34:57
Questions. 01:35:00
Today, understand what our information is as far as. 01:35:03
Go ahead. I'd just like to make a couple notes. I know there was concern that they did not receive certified mail. 01:35:14
The the requirement for that is 2 lots. 01:35:21
Adjacent. 01:35:24
From the project site, so if you did not receive the mail. 01:35:25
Within 22 lots of that site. 01:35:31
It was sent. 01:35:34
We do have the the green cards to verify that. 01:35:35
Regarding the traffic pattern that was brought up. 01:35:39
In dot controls the old Vincennes at 150 intersection and they do have plans to. 01:35:43
With projects to correct the issue at that. 01:35:50
That's about $7,000,000 I think what the project came in the. 01:35:54
Schreiber Road and Old Vincent's light construction is set to start. 01:36:00
Beginning of March for that project. 01:36:05
And. 01:36:09
The traffic study does account for all the other developments proposed in the area. 01:36:11
The sheriff was a part of the TRC meeting. 01:36:17
And noted that he had no concerns with public safety standpoint from this project. 01:36:20
All right. Does anybody have any other questions for Nick, please? 01:36:26
Hold it. 01:36:31
No. 01:36:34
There is a process that they are following. 01:36:36
Go ahead, Nick. 01:36:40
No, I had a question if Nick could also elaborate to. 01:36:42
To the audience there. 01:36:46
That there's also projects. 01:36:50
On the table right now. 01:36:52
Right behind Jacques and a light that's going in on 150 between Luther and. 01:36:55
Open Sense. 01:37:02
You're gonna, you're just gonna stop. As soon as you come off the Interstate, you're gonna stop. 01:37:04
123. 01:37:09
4-5. 01:37:12
Six times between there and Napleton Rd. 01:37:13
Well. 01:37:21
They're working on. 01:37:22
It's it's happening right now. There is a. 01:37:23
Study. 01:37:27
We have submitted an RFP for preliminary engineering for a light between. 01:37:28
Lutheran old consens for a connection. 01:37:34
To the Highlander Point area in there. 01:37:37
And one final note. 01:37:41
This property is currently zoned General Commercial. 01:37:42
Traffic for general commercial uses. 01:37:46
Are typically higher than. 01:37:49
Multifamily or any other residential use. 01:37:51
So. 01:37:54
What would be allowed by right? 01:37:55
Could likely have a greater impact on the traffic than what this proposal would suggest. 01:37:57
Right. 01:38:03
All right, all right. 01:38:05
May have to ask people to just. 01:38:08
All right. At this time, no other board questions. 01:38:16
OK. 01:38:20
Nick, you want to? 01:38:22
Nick, you want you want to just go through the process just one more time on the agenda items as far as. 01:38:27
Which one of these items is? 01:38:33
The options of the board so they. 01:38:36
Clearly understand so the rezoning requests in the PUD rezone. 01:38:38
Our recommendations to the. 01:38:43
County commissioners. 01:38:46
So that just sorry, I want to make sure. I think they want a little direction too. So that would be your docket item ending in O2. 01:38:48
And that's the rezone. 01:38:54
And your docket item ending in 04 is your put correct? 01:38:56
Go ahead. And 03 is the major subdivision. 01:39:01
Huh. And then docket item 05 is the detailed development plan. 01:39:04
Associated with the. 01:39:08
OK. 01:39:10
OK, everybody. 01:39:12
Claire So in, two in. 01:39:14
For both favorable, unfavorable or no recommendation. 01:39:16
And then the other two ending in three and five would be granting or denying. 01:39:21
Any questions on those and? 01:39:28
One ballot at a time. So you're going to start with the O2, start with O2. 01:39:30
All right, we need a ballot from somebody, please. Docket FC01-25-02, Petitioner, theme and group. 01:39:34
Decision. 01:39:41
After careful review, the Floyd County Planning Commission finds that one. 01:39:42
Rezoning of subject property is consistent with Floyd County Comprehensive Plan. 01:39:47
Because the Conflict County Comprehensive Plan identifies the area. 01:39:52
As commercial growth area. 01:39:55
Rose planned unit development will be. 01:39:57
Mixed-use featuring a commercial element nearest to Old Vincent's Road. 01:40:00
Additionally, rezoning is consistent with. 01:40:05
Smart growth principles identified in the pan. 01:40:07
Specifically, mixed land uses compact building design. 01:40:10
Creating a range of housing opportunities. 01:40:13
Directing development towards existing communities and preserving open space, farmland, natural beauty and critical environment 01:40:16
areas. 01:40:19
As this is an infill development. 01:40:23
#2. 01:40:25
The rezoning of subject property is consistent with the current conditions. 01:40:27
And the character of the current structures and uses in the area because commercial uses. 01:40:30
At the front of the. 01:40:35
The lot are consistent with the original general commercial zoning. 01:40:36
The multiplication. 01:40:40
The multifamily uses are appropriate. 01:40:43
Transitional uses between general commercial and urban residential uses. 01:40:46
Building facade materials are to be brick and Hardy board. 01:40:51
Structures are within the height limits. 01:40:54
Of the Flower County zoning ordinance. 01:40:56
And there there is another three story building in the vicinity. 01:40:59
#3 The rezoning of subject property is necessary for the most desirable use of the land. 01:41:03
Because the rezoning follows smart growth principles already noted. 01:41:08
It also provides additional housing identified as needed in the Purdue Housing Report. 01:41:12
The county had completed in 2020. 01:41:17
Is a mixed-use infill development. 01:41:19
In the commercial growth area? 01:41:22
#4 the rezoning of subject property. 01:41:23
Will not be interest to the value of other properties in the area. 01:41:26
Because commercial uses are consistent with general commercial zoning and appropriate adjacent to residential urban zoning and 01:41:30
uses. 01:41:33
The addition of a multi family component will support local business customer base. 01:41:37
The development will increase the value. 01:41:42
Of the lot itself and is expected to have positive impacts. 01:41:45
On neighboring commercial lots. 01:41:48
The buffer yard alone. 01:41:50
Adjacent residential lots are provided to the West. Additional buffering is recommended for the properties on the South. 01:41:52
The rezoning of subject property will support. 01:41:59
Responsible growth and development in the area. 01:42:02
Rezoning follows the objectives of smart growth outlined in the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan. 01:42:04
Higher density development is directed towards existing infrastructure. 01:42:10
Provider Provider letters indicate ability to serve the development is in. 01:42:14
The identified commercial growth area and is in the infill development. 01:42:20
Upon careful review, the Floyd County Penny Commission hereby makes a favorable recommendation. 01:42:24
On the petitioner zoning. 01:42:30
Amendment application at the meeting held on the 10th of February 2025. 01:42:32
A favorable recommendation is based on the following written commencement. 01:42:37
Buffer Yard 2 standards will be met on all adjoining residential properties. 01:42:41
Trick #2 Drainage will be Floyd County storm water standards as approved by the Storm Water Board. 01:42:46
#3A phase lot 1 will be developed first and a schedule of completion for the project will be provided by the applicant. 01:42:52
That completes my ballot. 01:42:59
OK, we have a ballot. I need a second. 01:43:02
No second. 01:43:25
That I need a ballot. 01:43:27
By somebody that's not approving this ballot. 01:43:29
You need to fill one out. 01:43:31
I can't do it. 01:43:33
What was the question? 01:43:42
Mr. Vice President. 01:43:44
Somebody need somebody will need to complete a ballot. 01:43:49
Otherwise you can have discussion on the first one if you want to at this point. 01:43:58
Go from there. 01:44:03
But. 01:44:04
Nations from out for conversations. 01:44:10
Yeah. I mean, you guys can discuss it. You can. 01:44:13
The only thing that would not require bouts unfavorable recommend or sorry, no recommendation that would not have a ballot with 01:44:16
us. 01:44:19
It's favorable, unfavorable, or no recommendation. 01:44:24
I was listening correct because you wouldn't have a ballot with no recommendation. 01:44:28
OK, so somebody makes needs to make a motion. 01:44:33
That's the path that somebody wants, OK? 01:44:36
So I think once again, that's why we kind of went through and explained so. 01:44:38
Obviously, Mr. Bible Hauser has a ballot with a favorable. 01:44:41
We either need somebody with an unfavorable or no recommendation at all. 01:44:45
Unfavorable takes a ballot. No recommendation would not be a ballot, so no recommendation does not take about. 01:44:51
I'll make a motion for no recommendation to the Board Commission. 01:44:57
Could place place. Please respect what we're trying to get accomplished here. I beg you. 01:45:01
If you cannot be quiet, you need to leave the room please. Thank you. 01:45:07
OK, so I have I have a motion for no recommendation correct? 01:45:11
I need a second. 01:45:16
I need a second. 01:45:24
I will second that motion. 01:45:26
OK, have a second. 01:45:27
Any discussion? 01:45:29
Yeah, I'm just not qualified to do this unfavorable ballot. I'm. 01:45:31
Totally opposed to this. I don't know why we're making an adjustment to this zoning to our. 01:45:35
Residents of that area. 01:45:40
But to put me to. 01:45:46
Could do this ballot. I'm just not qualified. I mean, it's so detailed, so complex, just what they went through. 01:45:48
I think it's a process. OK. So do you want to fill out an unfavorable? 01:45:55
Not or you want to vote for. 01:46:01
No recommendation. 01:46:03
Maybe if we can re. 01:46:04
Revisit this another meeting, give me time to prepare for it. That's not possible. We've got three options and we're going to 01:46:06
leave the room with 1/3 so. 01:46:10
I'm not qualified to do this. 01:46:13
Unfavorable. Sort of. 01:46:17
I have a motion. I have a second. 01:46:18
We had discussion all in favor. 01:46:20
Signify for I. 01:46:22
Aye, aye. 01:46:24
There's three. That's for no recommendation at all. 01:46:26
So you had three, so you do not have enough to support a no recommendation. So there needs to be a ballot. 01:46:31
That is prepared or a. 01:46:36
Vote in favor. You have to have a majority vote. 01:46:38
Call again. So no recommendation. 01:46:45
Everybody understands what's going on there. That goes to the ministers, they make the decision so. 01:46:48
You could make an unfavorable. 01:46:53
And vote unanimous. All that still goes to the Commission. 01:46:55
Makes the commissioners make the decision so. 01:46:58
In order to for us to finish this meeting tonight, we have to have a vote. 01:47:01
So can I put it up for one more time? 01:47:06
Somebody else can make a motion, yes. 01:47:09
Can I review this? I mean how complex is this? 01:47:12
I know I'm not qualified, but I mean, can we just put up a? 01:47:15
Vote unfavorable how details is going to be you have. 01:47:19
Ballot and bring your motion with. 01:47:22
Your ballot. 01:47:25
But you can take time to fill out and do, but it does. 01:47:27
Be brought and then a second to that. 01:47:29
Vote on that ballot. 01:47:32
Not an answer question. We're we. 01:47:35
We're not supposed to answer questions, but hold on a second. 01:47:52
Once again, what we're trying to do here is we've got favorable, unfavorable. 01:47:55
Or no recommendation. So that's what we're trying to get through right now, so. 01:47:59
Let it give us time to get through this place. 01:48:02
Yes. All right, I'll make a motion is. 01:48:06
I'll make a motion and no recommendation. 01:48:10
I'll second. 01:48:13
We have a second. 01:48:15
Any other discussion? 01:48:16
All in favor. 01:48:18
For no recommendation signify by aye. 01:48:19
Ah, those opposed. 01:48:23
All right, all right. 01:48:24
OK, so it's two, it passes. 01:48:26
Good. Five, Yeah, OK. 01:48:28
So it's going to the Commission with no recommendation. So I'll get to visit Michelle. Let me let me show a hands who said yes. 01:48:30
No recommendations. No recommendation? Sure. 01:48:37
12345 So we've got enough, correct that is correct. 01:48:39
So that passes. 01:48:44
OK, so now agenda item. 01:48:45
Number. 01:48:48
4/3 right? 01:48:51
Excuse me, Sir. What? 01:48:55
We all right, go ahead. 01:48:57
I'm looking for a ballot. 01:49:00
For agenda item number. 01:49:01
433. 01:49:05
3 Umm. 01:49:07
Even though we got no recommendation here, you still want to all tied together. That's what I Nick, have you. Yeah. 01:49:08
Make a contingent on commissioners approval. 01:49:20
Yeah, I mean. 01:49:22
Well, the the subdivisions. 01:49:26
Ministerial. 01:49:28
Correct. 01:49:29
So if the Mr. standards, then you. 01:49:31
Child permit. So for that work they want to table it. 01:49:33
If the applicant wishes to table until commissioners make a decision, otherwise you guys would, it would be up to you and it's 01:49:39
ministerial, so if they meet all the requirements it has to be approved. 01:49:43
With you can make a condition contingent on the commissioners approval of the rezone, though obviously other than that if they 01:49:48
meet the requirements of the zoning ordinance it has to be approved. 01:49:52
The question is just do you want to table it until a decision is made by the commissioners or do you want a do you want the board 01:50:01
to go ahead and vote on it this evening? 01:50:05
OK. 01:50:09
So that you guys are left with the ballot for that. 01:50:10
Which is agenda item 4 but. 01:50:15
Docket ending in 03 is a grant or deny that subdivision. 01:50:17
Again, is ministerial in nature as long as they meet the zoning ordinance. 01:50:21
With that though, I would. 01:50:24
Recommend subject subject to the Commissioners approval. 01:50:26
Zoning change which is reference that docket number, I think will be helpful. 01:50:30
OK. So just for everybody on the board, if you get a ballot that's in favor of this? 01:50:34
We put us, we put a condition on it. 01:50:39
That it's subject to the commissioners, correct? So if the commissioners don't approve that, then it would not be approved. All 01:50:42
right, so I need, I need a ballot for agenda item item number 4. 01:50:46
#4. 01:50:51
Well, it's agenda item 4. It's agenda item 4, Docket three. Yeah, Docket 3. 01:50:54
Docket FCO 1-25-03. 01:51:10
Number one, petitioner has met all the following requirements. 01:51:16
So he's met all the requirements for. 01:51:20
Preliminary plan provided. 01:51:24
Certification demonstrating idem. 01:51:26
Platt provided geotechnical report staff. 01:51:29
Traffic Study. 01:51:33
The lots working. 01:51:36
And compliance. 01:51:38
The streets. 01:51:40
Item I Streets are in compliance. J Sidewalks are in compliance #2 Petitioner has met. 01:51:41
The following requirements for drainage and storm water. 01:51:48
#3 The petitioner has provided a letter confirming. 01:51:52
Confirming availability and willingness to serve for all necessary utilities. Lloyd Water Company, Georgetown Fire Department. 01:51:56
Harrison REMC, New Albany Wastewater. 01:52:04
At T and Charter. 01:52:08
#4 Petitioner has met the following requirements for sewer and or septic. 01:52:10
Service for the development we provided by New Albany Wastewater. 01:52:14
Decision. 01:52:22
Upon careful review, the boy county. 01:52:25
Planning Commissioner right grants the petitioner. 01:52:27
Primary approval for a major subdivision at the meeting held on the 10th of February 2025. Primary approval is based on completion 01:52:30
of fine conditions. 01:52:35
Final Approval The drainage stormwater plans are required prior to secondary approval. 01:52:39
The number of apartments. 01:52:45
For this development shall not exceed 125 units. 01:52:47
And this. 01:52:53
This approval is subject to. 01:52:57
Contingent is contingent upon. 01:53:00
The the planning. 01:53:09
The commissioners approving the previous one, right? 01:53:12
FC is put down FC. 01:53:16
This is contingent upon. 01:53:18
FC01. 01:53:20
I will just hold on there, OK. 01:53:22
FCO One. 01:53:34
2502, that's right, yeah. 01:53:36
This is contingent upon the Commissioner's approval of FCO 1-25-02 that completes my ballot. 01:53:41
All right, we have a ballot. I need a any discussion. 01:53:49
I need a second. 01:53:53
I'll second. 01:53:54
We have a second. All in favor signify by aye. 01:53:55
All right, all right, let me see. A show of hands and said aye. 01:53:59
OK, let the record show that there was a majority more than 5. 01:54:03
That passes. 01:54:07
Once again, that is subject to the Commissioners approval. 01:54:10
Of the zoning map. 01:54:12
All right, you got agenda item number 5. 01:54:14
FC-01-25-04. 01:54:18
On this one, Nick, this would go from the multifamily to the PUD though, so I think at this time. 01:54:25
Would the applicant want to table that one? Because. 01:54:31
I mean, it wasn't. 01:54:35
Obviously the recommendation. There's no recommendation from. 01:54:36
Commercial to multifamily. 01:54:39
I still you have 8 will be back in the morning. 01:54:42
Unfavorable, OK. 01:54:47
OK. All right. 01:54:49
All right, so confirming that's OK with you so. 01:54:51
Is there any on a body on the board that wants to make no recommendation motion or is there a ballot from somebody? 01:54:53
Anybody. 01:55:02
Which one is this for? This is the one that. 01:55:04
PUD. 01:55:09
It's #4. 01:55:10
It's it's it's agenda file. 01:55:14
So your options again are favorable, unfavorable, both of those require ballots or no recommendation. 01:55:19
So, and this is on 04. 01:55:31
This is yes. 01:55:33
Huh. 01:55:37
The first part of this thing. 01:55:46
It's all up to you. 01:55:47
So all I have to say. 01:55:49
Officer, can't we start? 01:55:51
Multiple pages in correct? 01:55:53
Yes, page 4. 01:55:55
All right, all right, That's OK. 01:56:01
We have three options. 01:56:06
I know the proposed. 01:56:07
Planned unit development does very does significantly. 01:56:10
Does vary significant from the zoning and subdivision control regulation concerning density, parking and buffering? 01:56:14
Yard #1 #2. 01:56:20
The closed land use and the. 01:56:23
In the planned unit development. 01:56:25
Are not in conflict. 01:56:27
With spirit and the intent of the comprehensive. 01:56:29
Plants surrounding land use and zoning district. 01:56:32
#3 the proposed. 01:56:36
HUD does provide adequate public service like air traffic control. 01:56:38
Open and. 01:56:44
Common space and recreation. 01:56:45
#4. 01:56:48
The planned unit development is compatible with the adjacent properties and surrounding neighborhoods. 01:56:49
#5. 01:56:55
The proposed planned unit development will not interfere with the use or diminish the values of adjacent properties and 01:56:56
surrounding neighborhood. 01:57:00
Number six, the proposed planned unit development will not diminish the level of service. 01:57:04
For roadway systems in the vicinity. 01:57:09
#7. 01:57:12
The plan you development can't be immediately and adequately served by existing public facilities. 01:57:13
#8. 01:57:20
Planned unit development does preserve natural and historic resources to extent possible. 01:57:21
#9 The planned unit development will not be interest to the public health and safety and general welfare. 01:57:27
#10 The written commitments will be required. The applicant shall provide a schedule for phasing the construction of the project. 01:57:33
A schedule for the completion of all phases. 01:57:37
We'll provide it to the Planning Commission. 01:57:42
#11. 01:57:44
The petitioner will be. 01:57:46
Required. 01:57:48
To meet conditions. 01:57:49
Please specify those conditions a the number of apartments of development. 01:57:51
Shall not exceed 125 units. 01:57:56
Be for secondary approval, provide additional screening of dumpster on. 01:57:59
Dumpster. 01:58:03
On lot 1 between dumpsters and roadway provided light at entrance. 01:58:04
Locations where there are none. 01:58:10
Meet suffer buffer zone. 01:58:12
Buffer Yard 2 standards. 01:58:15
For adjoining residential youth on the South side. 01:58:17
With a ball. 01:58:21
That completes my appointment. That's not complete my brother. 01:58:25
I gotta read something over here. 01:58:29
Upon careful review, the Floyd County Planning Commission hereby. 01:58:31
Makes a favorable recommendation to the County Commissioner concerning the petitioner planned unit development at the beating held 01:58:34
on the 10th of February, 2025. 01:58:38
All right, we have a ballot. 01:58:44
Any discussion on that ballot? 01:58:46
I need a second. 01:58:48
I'll second. 01:58:51
We do have a second. 01:58:52
Any further discussion if none? 01:58:54
We need a vote all signify that agreed by aye. 01:58:57
Aye. 01:59:00
Those opposed. 01:59:02
Aye. 01:59:03
All right, well, let's say this show of hands and approve it. 01:59:04
Which one are you doing? 01:59:08
4. 01:59:10
Just making sure I heard you right. 01:59:11
1234. 01:59:13
OK. 01:59:15
All right. 01:59:16
So if we need somebody to do. 01:59:19
I will adjust. 01:59:22
Ballot. 01:59:24
To no recommendation. 01:59:25
So you're just bringing a motion for number? Yeah, it's not your ballot. 01:59:28
Well, it's on here to 2nd, make no recommendation. 01:59:31
Ending ending Commissioner approval. 01:59:35
Is is it just no recommendation or is it? 01:59:40
Automatically pending Commissioner approval. 01:59:43
It goes to commissioners regardless. 01:59:47
OK, I'll second that. 01:59:49
OK, so we have a motion for. 01:59:52
No recommendation. 01:59:55
Correct, and you're seconded. 01:59:57
Any discussion? 01:59:59
OK, all in favor, say bye. 02:00:01
Raise hands, please. So we got it on record. 02:00:03
OK, we do have 5 or above so that does pass. 02:00:06
All right. Thank you. 02:00:09
All right, it passes no recommendation. 02:00:12
All right, the last. 02:00:17
Is agenda item 6. 02:00:21
Which is FC. 02:00:24
01 Dash, 2505. 02:00:25
I thought that's what we just did. No, I didn't. 02:00:28
I don't know if that was the floor. Huh. It was all four. 02:00:31
It didn't read. 02:00:37
Yeah, 'cause that's. 02:00:41
Yeah, that should have signatures. 02:00:42
Because that should have that as a no recommendation, shouldn't have signatures on it, right? 02:00:47
That one does. 02:00:53
Hey, Nick. 02:00:55
I'm all confused at this point guys. 02:00:58
The 04 ballot has no recommendation but still has a ballot which? 02:01:02
Are you OK with that? 02:01:06
Yeah. 02:01:08
You vote, you voted on it. 02:01:10
Recommendation. 02:01:12
Do you have, do you have agenda item 5? Is that what you? Yeah, that's fine. That's still fine. 02:01:15
You just read Ballot. 02:01:22
Agenda item. 02:01:26
Agenda item 5 + 4. 02:01:28
Gotcha. OK. That was the one you just read. 02:01:30
You read it. 02:01:33
Where's it at? 02:01:35
That's when we just. That's what I just read. 02:01:37
Yeah, I don't think that's right. I'm confused. 02:01:41
Nick, you want help a second. 02:01:43
You skipped. 02:01:49
Is this right? 02:01:51
You have the first 3. 02:01:54
Here we go, you're saying? 02:01:57
You want an 05 now, right? Correct. 02:01:59
That's the one we're on now. 02:02:01
We have to. 02:02:07
Did we approve this one? 02:02:09
OK, so we're on. 02:02:11
That's right. 02:02:23
Do we need to finish signing that? 02:02:26
I need it and I'll move it on. 02:02:30
OK. All right. 02:02:35
So, so Nick on this development plan, I mean, if we're voting no recommendation on. 02:02:36
O2 and 04. 02:02:40
How? How do we How do we vote on it? 02:02:41
On both O2. 02:02:45
That's right. 02:02:47
Yeah, I got a sign. 02:02:49
I bet so that's good. 02:02:52
That's alright, you got it. I'm. 02:02:57
Hey, I'm good. 02:03:01
How do I know what I'm saying? 02:03:02
OK, the next we need a ballot for agenda item 6. 02:03:12
05. 02:03:17
FC-O125-505. 02:03:18
No, I just making sure that. 02:03:24
Where's my wife? 02:03:42
You guys. 02:03:48
This will be. 02:03:51
Subject to FC 01. 02:03:52
25. 02:03:56
Dash O2. 02:03:58
And 04104 1. 02:04:01
That's it, You got it. 02:04:11
And I still need some. 02:04:13
All right, do we have a ballot for Docket FCO 1-25-O5? 02:04:17
Conceptual site plan. 02:04:25
Review by planning director Yes. 02:04:27
Findings #1 Petitioner has met all the veterans standards. 02:04:29
For the district #2A waiver for the development standard. 02:04:33
Requirement is not required. 02:04:37
#3. 02:04:39
Proposed development plan is consistent with the Comprehensive plan because the Floyd County Comprehensive Plan identifies the 02:04:41
area as a commercial growth area. 02:04:45
The proposed planned unit development be mixed-use featuring a commercial element nearest the frontage additional rezoning 02:04:50
assistant with the smart growth principles. 02:04:54
Identified in the plan, specifically mixed land use. 02:04:59
Compact building design, creating a range of housing opportunities, directing development towards existing communities and 02:05:02
preserving open space. 02:05:06
And critical environmental areas as this is an infill development. 02:05:11
#4 The proposed development is consistent with the intent. 02:05:15
Of the district has set forth in Boyd County zoning ordinance because it is a multi family planned unit development district. 02:05:19
District which allows modifications to underlying district. 02:05:26
Standards #4 the proposed development plan. 02:05:29
Does satisfy. 02:05:32
The following development. 02:05:33
Requirements. 02:05:35
And there are. 02:05:36
A is signage, B is access, C is designed D lighting. 02:05:37
Number six, the proposed development is a multi family development development plan does satisfy the requirements for a 02:05:43
recreational space and open space by providing a pool and outdoor gaming area. 02:05:49
And is less than the 25 acres in Toll area. 02:05:55
#7 The proposed developments is located in the Highlander Point District. 02:05:58
The following requirements have been met. Building facades or brick. 02:06:02
And Harding board there are no loading docks, burden dumpsters located to the side and rear of the buildings. 02:06:06
A The building facades that face any adjacent streets have a finished facade. 02:06:12
Be loading docks and trash collector bins are not placed on or along the facade that face. 02:06:17
Any adjacent streets? 02:06:22
See the accommodation is. 02:06:25
Is made for community space where a proposal commercial development. 02:06:27
Has over 100,000 square feet. 02:06:32
Either in combination of buildings or lots and is. 02:06:34
A cohesive commercial project or development D. 02:06:38
Open space requirements for Section 904. The Fern. 02:06:41
Zoning ordinance are met. 02:06:44
Decision. This decision is contingent upon Commissioners approval. 02:06:46
Of SCO 12502 and FCO 1/25/04. 02:06:50
One careful review. The Floyd County Planning Commission hereby approves. 02:06:54
The Petition Development Plan review application at the meeting held on the 10th of February 2025. 02:06:58
Completes my ballot. 02:07:04
All right, we have a ballot. Everybody understands the conditions written on the ballot. 02:07:06
I need a second. 02:07:10
All right, I've got a second. 02:07:14
I would like to. 02:07:18
Note that. 02:07:19
This detailed improvement detailed. 02:07:21
Plan would be contingent upon the rezoning. 02:07:25
He said that. 02:07:29
Not only as a condition, but as a matter of. 02:07:31
Whether it is valid or not. 02:07:34
That's why I made a second. 02:07:37
There you go. So I have I do have a a second. 02:07:40
OK. 02:07:43
All right, all in favor signify by aye. 02:07:46
Aye, show of hands please, on the eyes. 02:07:49
OK, that is. 02:07:52
A majority. So that passes. Thank you, Larry. 02:07:53
All righty, Nick. 02:07:57
Includes the. 02:07:58
Agenda items other than we had something on here about the overlay. 02:08:00
Can we, can we push, push that down the road? 02:08:04
Please I need to. 02:08:07
I really need to. 02:08:10
I need to. I gotta be honest with you. 02:08:12
OK, OK, let's get these signed before we adjourn. 02:08:16
Because that is. 02:08:19
That is no old business, new business. 02:08:21
Complete for tonight. 02:08:24
Appreciate advice, patience. 02:08:26
Need a motion for adjourned. Yeah, don't, don't leave till you sign though. I need a motion to adjourn motion. 02:08:29
OK, any a second so moved. 02:08:34
Favor signify by. 02:08:37
All right. Thank you very much. 02:08:39
Oh. 02:08:44