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Everybody, it's 4:30. I'm gonna go ahead and call to order this Floyd County Solid Waste Management District Board of Directors. 00:00:00
If you would please rise and join me for the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:06
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. 00:00:09
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:14
Thank you everyone for being here today. Looks like. 00:00:25
Everybody's in attendance, minus Mayor Gahan. 00:00:29
All right, look for approval of the February 18 minutes, please. 00:00:33
Motion to approve. 00:00:38
Got a motion by. 00:00:40
Al, second by Frank. 00:00:42
Any discussion? 00:00:44
All right, all in favor, signify by saying aye, aye. 00:00:46
Any opposed? 00:00:49
Cares. 00:00:50
Approval of the marked provisional claims. 00:00:53
And just. 00:00:57
Someone second. 00:01:00
We got a motion by Dale and a second by item. Any further discussion? 00:01:03
OK, seeing none, all in favor signify by saying aye. 00:01:09
Aye, any opposed? 00:01:12
That carries. 00:01:14
Approval of the April claims. 00:01:16
Have a motion by Dale. 00:01:21
Second by Brandon. 00:01:27
Any further discussion? 00:01:29
All right, all in favor, signify by saying aye. 00:01:31
Any post? 00:01:34
And that cares. 00:01:35
All right. 00:01:38
Solid waste hiring moratorium. 00:01:39
Oh, I'm sorry, you're right. 00:01:43
Approval of Resolution 2025-303 with the amended Exhibit A, which is our vendors. 00:01:46
Is that correct? 00:01:53
Yes. 00:01:55
And we're just adding. 00:01:56
American paint recyclers like. 00:01:58
Lighting resources. 00:02:00
The UPS Store. 00:02:02
So moved. 00:02:05
Got a motion by them. Can I get a second? 00:02:08
Second Second by Dale. 00:02:09
All right, any further discussion? 00:02:12
All in favor signify by saying aye. 00:02:13
Aye, any opposed? 00:02:16
That carries. 00:02:17
Solid waste hiring moratorium. 00:02:20
Christy. 00:02:23
Yeah, I have a resolution prepared. It would be resolution 2025-O four. 00:02:24
For a hiring freeze. 00:02:30
Happy to read through that so I would like me to. 00:02:32
But directing that you all make that. 00:02:35
Decision in this resolution to place a hiring freeze on the Solid Waste Management District. 00:02:39
Passed that recommendation of resolution on to Commissioners for further action in the briefing. 00:02:46
Happy to answer any questions. 00:02:50
See if I have any questions. 00:02:55
No, I mean it's it's probably worth of a broader discussion of why this is taking place and I'm working with the lead off on that 00:02:57
or I can't end it. 00:03:01
Yeah, I, I, I. 00:03:05
We can discuss it first. Discuss it. 00:03:09
Either or. OK. Yeah, yeah. 00:03:12
All right. No, I think you're right. I think I think there is. 00:03:14
A little bit discussion that needs to happen here, a little bit about. 00:03:17
Why? This is the way it is as it stands right now. 00:03:20
You know, for. 00:03:23
Quite a while now, I think we've all been. 00:03:25
Wondering where we're going to fall? 00:03:29
If Senate Bill 1. 00:03:32
Was to be passed. 00:03:33
And what that would? 00:03:35
Look like for our communities. 00:03:36
Last night the the bill did pass. 00:03:40
Through the Senate. 00:03:43
And was given to the governor and is my understanding that has now been signed by the governor into law. 00:03:44
So. 00:03:49
I can tell you the the fiscal impacts. 00:03:50
That I've seen that's been distributed to me and I'm sure. 00:03:53
Some other members. 00:03:57
I've probably seen in that too. 00:03:58
You know. 00:04:00
I think a lot of communities, not just here in Floyd County but throughout the state of Indiana are going to have to take a look. 00:04:02
At the services. 00:04:08
That they provide. 00:04:09
And. 00:04:11
Ask ourselves. 00:04:12
You know is. 00:04:13
Are we going to have to? 00:04:16
To start. 00:04:17
Taking a broader look at those that are statutorily required or. 00:04:18
What's going to be leftover for? 00:04:24
Kind of Anything else? 00:04:26
And. 00:04:28
I think our our thoughts was as far as. 00:04:30
Commissioners. 00:04:33
You know. 00:04:35
We don't know what our budget's going to. 00:04:36
Really look like until a certain point, so. 00:04:38
I know that. 00:04:41
The commissioners have kind of felt that. 00:04:43
At least as far as I'm concerned. I don't want to speak for Alan Frank, but. 00:04:46
I hate the thought of promising a job to somebody that may not be there. 00:04:52
Whether it be part-time or full. 00:04:55
You know, that's a lot of work for. 00:04:57
Our human resources people. 00:04:59
And umm, uh. 00:05:01
I don't like making promises that I can't keep so. 00:05:03
That's just my thoughts. I like to open it up to everybody else and. 00:05:06
Get everyone else's thoughts. 00:05:09
Moving forward, yeah, I mean on my end, you know, I. 00:05:11
You kind of hope to the last minute something like that's not going to pass, but it did fast. 00:05:14
There's been hallway conversations. This is this is probably 1 of many discussions we're going to have to have with every 00:05:19
department within the county. 00:05:23
Not only with regards to. 00:05:28
Hiring freezes, but. 00:05:29
Perhaps even. 00:05:30
Cutbacks, I mean. 00:05:32
The projected impact on. 00:05:34
Annual budgets for 26/27/28 are very substantial. 00:05:38
Conversations leading up to last night's vote. 00:05:43
With state representatives and senators basically said, well, you're going to have the option to. 00:05:46
Initiate or enact a local income tax. 00:05:53
So we can debate it all. We want the wisdom of that, but. 00:05:57
Happen and so the reality is you're going to have less money. So you're either going to have. 00:06:00
Have to. 00:06:05
Reduce services somewhere along the way where you're going to have to. 00:06:07
Raise revenue. 00:06:11
And there's just no other way around that We're not going to be able to control. 00:06:13
Continue with what? The status quo so. 00:06:15
This is. 00:06:18
In no way isolated. 00:06:18
Look at. 00:06:21
Recycling. 00:06:22
You guys do a great job. You have done a great job with the budgets all along. 00:06:24
There's less money. 00:06:27
Decisions are going to have to be made so. 00:06:29
I agree this is. 00:06:32
Logical first step is not to bring somebody new on board. 00:06:34
With the promise of a job that may not be there for fiscal 2026. 00:06:38
So I agree. 00:06:43
Targeted this. 00:06:50
This was passed last night just after midnight, so we're not even going to know the reality of the impacts until it's probably 00:06:52
been initiated. 00:06:56
And. 00:07:00
DLGF looks at with regards to this solid waste hiring freeze. 00:07:03
I mean it would it would be in place. 00:07:06
Effective immediately. 00:07:09
Yeah, OK. So. 00:07:12
At our polling would work with. 00:07:14
Employees that we have. 00:07:15
You know we have. 00:07:17
14 employees right now. 00:07:19
So we're we're day. 00:07:21
If someone calls in sick. 00:07:23
And if we don't have someone to fill that spot? 00:07:27
Yeah, we're at Italian. 00:07:29
Risk of shutting down that day. 00:07:30
I mean, fortunately. 00:07:33
I've been feeling well. 00:07:34
Lot for sick people. 00:07:35
You know, for people that. 00:07:38
We had some nutrition people. 00:07:39
Leaving SO. 00:07:42
Right now we're running. 00:07:45
Nip and tuck day-to-day. 00:07:48
I just need a date. 00:07:57
When is this going to happen? 00:07:59
We can't like, just say. 00:08:03
If you expect us to run the next six months. 00:08:05
Without any hiccups. 00:08:08
And if I have two people leave? 00:08:10
And I can't run. 00:08:14
I think of a moratorium goes to. 00:08:16
Place and. 00:08:18
You are maxed out with regards to staffing then. 00:08:20
I think it's very reasonable expectation that. 00:08:23
Service hours would have to be cut back. 00:08:25
To reflect on that. 00:08:28
I mean, it's not going to be impacting you and your career. It's going to be impacting. 00:08:29
The citizens of Floyd County as well, but. 00:08:33
The reality is we're not going to be able to run. 00:08:35
Like we have been running. 00:08:37
And so. 00:08:40
It certainly would be. 00:08:42
My opinion, I'm one of many on the board here, but. 00:08:44
If you came to us and said, hey, this is what I can do with the crew that I have available. 00:08:46
I think it's incumbent upon us to look at that. 00:08:51
In light of that reality, and whether that means your. 00:08:54
It's going to be shut down the half day here that you weren't before then. 00:08:57
That's that's, that's those are the. 00:09:01
The predictable. 00:09:03
And unforeseen consequences of this type of bill that was passed last night. 00:09:08
And this is going to have ripple effects through every. 00:09:12
Every department within the county and the city. 00:09:16
I don't. I don't think so. 00:09:32
And I say that because. 00:09:35
You know, uh. 00:09:37
Depending on. 00:09:38
What this board determines. 00:09:39
You know, and the commissioners. 00:09:41
You know. 00:09:43
We have some areas that have prepaid for service. 00:09:47
If we have to use. 00:09:50
Money that we budgeted to repay them back because we can't meet our obligation, I mean. 00:09:51
That's just what's going to. 00:09:57
Possibly have to be done. 00:09:58
I'd still like to hear from. 00:10:00
Adam and Brandon as far as. 00:10:01
These impacts for you guys, what you're all thinking on this as well? 00:10:04
I mean I. 00:10:09
I'm on board with it. If you got to reduce hours, I think that's a smart idea just to. 00:10:12
Keep afloat. 00:10:17
Well, I mean doing that. 00:10:18
Producing services. 00:10:20
We've got 30. 00:10:21
37. 00:10:22
Different customers that we are obtaining. 00:10:24
Right now for the year. 00:10:27
To pick up. 00:10:28
Right, so. 00:10:30
You're saying that we pay them back? 00:10:31
And stop their services. 00:10:34
Well, what I would recommend. 00:10:36
This is due to moratorium saying do not hire anybody because we don't know what we're doing. 00:10:39
Because we don't have the financial impact yet. 00:10:45
So I agree. 00:10:48
Without that I think. 00:10:49
If I was you, I would just go back and. 00:10:52
Look at your what you have to do and say this is what I have to. 00:10:55
To do and this is what what people I have available. 00:10:59
And redo. 00:11:02
What you're doing for that? 00:11:05
You're going to have to change your schedule and your obligations. 00:11:08
To the people that you have on hand. 00:11:11
And that could be a fluid situation where? 00:11:14
Two weeks from now, you don't have that many people you may have to. 00:11:17
Do it again or come to us and say, OK, this is what's happened again and hopefully. 00:11:20
It won't be too long before we have an answer. 00:11:26
What we're going to do, but you will be. 00:11:29
First person to know. 00:11:32
I mean, we're not holding anything back. We just don't know. But we. 00:11:34
I agree with Jason, in fact, that that would be the worst thing to do to hire somebody. 00:11:38
And then 90 days or 80 days, 180 days from now, it says sorry. 00:11:43
When maybe they had a job offer somewhere else that they passed out. 00:11:48
So we just want to avoid that. 00:11:53
But at this point you just got to go back and say OK. 00:11:55
This is what I have available. These are the resources I have available. This is Money. 00:11:59
And I'm going to change it. It might be instead of four hours a day, might be two hours. 00:12:04
I don't. I don't know your job. 00:12:10
So so let me. 00:12:12
Dave, let me interject similar. 00:12:14
Here a couple of questions for you. 00:12:17
Do you have right now any positions that you were wanting or otherwise had out? 00:12:21
For hiring. 00:12:27
No, not unless someone leaves. 00:12:29
Not you are not planning on. 00:12:32
That know someone who's OK that's that's good. 00:12:35
Second question. 00:12:38
Are you able to? 00:12:40
Prioritize. 00:12:42
I think of this like light switches. 00:12:45
If we don't have enough. 00:12:47
Power coming in. 00:12:49
Just to generate all the lights in the room. 00:12:51
We're going to start to turn off lights. 00:12:54
We're going to turn off the back of the room first because we're up here at the front of the room. We need to see. 00:12:56
And we're eventually going to get to the very front. 00:13:01
Maybe turn off our monitors and then we're going to turn off all the lights. 00:13:05
Our goal is not to turn off all the lights and shut. 00:13:10
The solid waste operation down. 00:13:12
I will acknowledge that I think there is a discussion at some point. 00:13:15
About whether or not. 00:13:19
Once we've shut so much. 00:13:20
Off whether it's advantageous for us to to continue with the solid waste, I agree. 00:13:22
And that's not out of a desire that I want to terminate the program. 00:13:29
That's a reflection that you do need certain monies to be able to do. 00:13:34
A basic level. 00:13:41
Service. 00:13:43
To the customer base. To the citizens above the county. 00:13:44
And if we don't have that? 00:13:48
Then, as much as I hate to say it, that was the priority set in Indianapolis, so. 00:13:50
That's the priority set in Indianapolis. 00:13:56
I think you've nailed it on the head there is this. This has been. 00:13:58
Taken out of our hands at the local level. 00:14:02
And. 00:14:04
I will, I will say. 00:14:07
I think Christy I I don't have a copy of the text in front of me, but I'm assuming. 00:14:10
You can pass it down if you've got it real quick, but I'm assuming the text is only. 00:14:15
Hiring moratorium for this point. 00:14:21
Forward until we would. 00:14:24
Yes, it is hiring replacement of positions or new positions. 00:14:27
Until you all decide to terminate. 00:14:31
If there were some sort of emergency situation, special circumstance, the director could come to the Flade County Commissioners 00:14:34
to. 00:14:37
Ask for an exception to be granted. 00:14:41
That would be a case by case basis for the Commissioners to consider. Yeah, we can reverse that at any time, yeah. 00:14:44
So. So yeah. 00:14:49
I think, I think what we are acknowledging here. 00:14:53
Dave, is is that? 00:14:56
We don't know. 00:14:58
Without seeing the fiscal impact. 00:15:00
Without getting into the budgetary process, which is going to start in earnest. 00:15:02
Here in the next few few months. 00:15:07
We don't know where we're going to be. 00:15:10
With any of our our funding sources, I don't want to put you guys in a. 00:15:14
In a bad place. 00:15:19
I think there's some things I want you to prioritize. 00:15:23
If there's an element of safety involved. 00:15:26
Obviously that needs to be brought to our attention and we need to recognize that. 00:15:29
If it's a total element of function involved, you know somebody's left. 00:15:35
And without that person, we can't run the route because we have to have someone who's got a CDL or something like that. 00:15:40
That that needs to be brought to our attention. 00:15:47
But I think. 00:15:50
Unfortunately. 00:15:52
What I'd like to see you do is. 00:15:54
Work on a. 00:15:57
Plan for. 00:15:59
What? Uh. 00:16:02
We could. 00:16:03
Essentially. 00:16:04
Idle back. 00:16:06
And some of that may be. 00:16:07
Be informed with the contracts too. I think we need to take a look at all the terms of the contracts right now. 00:16:09
To see what. 00:16:15
The exit clause is. 00:16:17
And what the end date are? 00:16:19
Not because I don't want to renew them. 00:16:21
I do want to redo them. 00:16:24
But I also. 00:16:26
Want us to be aware? 00:16:28
So that when we get to a point where we would enter in a renewal. 00:16:29
We're taking that into account with what we actually have and the ability to provide it. 00:16:35
Now there could be some accommodations made with. 00:16:39
The people were providing services to. 00:16:42
I don't know that this is the case, but maybe somebody wants to cover the whole thing. I had a conversation with. 00:16:46
With somebody recently about a service and they said what if we paid for the whole route? 00:16:51
Well, I guess if you want to pay for it. In this case it was a tarp grout. 00:16:57
If a business wants to pay for a tarcrout. 00:17:00
I mean, I think that. 00:17:04
Heart should fund that. 00:17:06
So maybe in our case, there's somebody that would pay for. 00:17:09
All those expenses related to. 00:17:12
You know. 00:17:15
A service. 00:17:16
But I think we need to get a handle on where all these are and kind of come up with a triage plan. 00:17:19
Because what this is going to be? 00:17:26
You know, we've all taken up a bullet, if you will. 00:17:28
And we're going to have to triage how we stem that bleeding. 00:17:31
Not knowing at this point even how much blood we're losing. 00:17:35
And you know. 00:17:40
Anyone who's been in the battlefield knows that sometimes you're able to say that. 00:17:42
Man, sometimes you're able to save the whole body, Sometimes you gotta. 00:17:46
Take that into account. 00:17:50
So. 00:17:51
I guess what I'm saying is. 00:17:53
I'll be supportive of a moratorium right now from the standpoint of. 00:17:57
It gives us an opportunity to get more information. 00:18:02
But I think that this isn't just a one off. 00:18:05
We're going to put everyone on the moratorium. I think the other piece is we need to work with you. 00:18:09
To plan and game this out. 00:18:14
So that we know. 00:18:16
At different levels. 00:18:18
This is what we're able to do if we only have this much money. This is what we're able to do with a little bit more. 00:18:19
A little bit less. 00:18:25
So that we're able to figure out what that looks like. 00:18:27
And then from you, I think we have to know. 00:18:30
Where are the critical break points? 00:18:33
We can exhaust the staff. 00:18:35
Because. 00:18:37
We put in a hiring moratorium. 00:18:39
And I think as a board we need to be realistic that all options are on the table. 00:18:46
We're going to have to come up with some decision for 2026 at some point, probably no later than. 00:18:50
July or August? 00:18:56
This year so that. 00:18:57
Worst case scenario for winding down. 00:18:58
We need to do that in a responsible way. 00:19:00
If it looks like there's no money there for 2026, we need to. 00:19:04
Populist for that and. 00:19:08
If there's. 00:19:10
Middle ground, whether it's scaled back services that we provide or that we contract with a third party for. 00:19:11
I mean as well those those situations where I think. 00:19:18
All options are on debt. 00:19:21
So I don't want to give anybody. 00:19:22
False hope, but I don't also. 00:19:24
Create a crisis where there. 00:19:26
Isn't one existing on this day? 00:19:27
Good lead in. 00:19:32
I spoke with Jason yesterday so. 00:19:34
You have contract, we have. You have contracts. 00:19:36
People picked up their. 00:19:39
For example. 00:19:41
I see a one of your. 00:19:42
I've been sitting at Ace Hardware. 00:19:43
Do they pay for that? 00:19:46
They pay. They pay a service. 00:19:48
Per year so that that particular. 00:19:50
It custom and the county does not subsidized anything. 00:19:53
Anyway. 00:19:56
Well, we. 00:19:57
Take their cardboard and we bring it back and we bail it. 00:19:59
So that. 00:20:03
That that location is so close to us. 00:20:04
We're able to bring it back. 00:20:06
Bailey return that container back the same day. 00:20:08
Most times. 00:20:12
And for them to start full. 00:20:13
Good clean carpet. 00:20:15
Well, I guess my question is. 00:20:17
You get money for the cardboard then, right? 00:20:19
Yes, Yeah. Well, my question is, is that like Home Depot? 00:20:21
DC Lumber. 00:20:26
They have their own bailing machines. 00:20:27
You'll see cardboard sitting down. 00:20:29
They bring a semi and they haul it off to their own recycling. 00:20:32
So we have a contract. 00:20:35
Single stream and. 00:20:38
Their cardboard. 00:20:40
So we pick up, they hit PC has set up a. 00:20:42
Recycle. 00:20:46
Station per se. 00:20:47
Right, just for recycling. 00:20:48
And then we also pick up a Bella cardboard there. 00:20:51
Well, I agree with Frank. 00:20:56
That we talk about. 00:20:59
And we all have a vision of running government like a business. And we all know it's basically real, unrealistic, but. 00:21:00
A lot? No, I had small business in. 00:21:08
Every morning you determine this is what has to be done today. 00:21:10
This is to my staff I've got available today. 00:21:13
Other stuff just gets left alone if you had to put a padlock on them. 00:21:16
Richardson says. 00:21:19
Closed for the day. 00:21:20
Maybe an inconvenience to the public? 00:21:22
Temporary that we don't really want to put on but. 00:21:25
I love, like Adam said, we we really don't have. 00:21:29
Stop just this department. I'm where I said. 00:21:32
County Council. 00:21:34
At the last meeting I said well I suggest we start to have workshops like next week. 00:21:36
Because this is gonna happen. Every department is in. 00:21:40
Entire game of cutbacks. 00:21:42
Seeing what's really priorities. 00:21:46
Decisions for a lot of boards. 00:21:48
And once this starts. 00:21:50
Employees see that they participate. 00:21:52
Job you're going to leave. 00:21:54
And they're gonna leave. 00:21:56
And then we're going to have. 00:21:58
Even a bigger problem and I can tell you right now. 00:22:00
I'm at my Max. 00:22:02
OK, I'm doing. 00:22:05
Three jobs. 00:22:05
Happened in the last six months. 00:22:07
You have to go back and say. 00:22:10
I can't do this. 00:22:13
I don't have the people, I don't have the concept. 00:22:15
So you may have to say. 00:22:18
I can only do AB and CI, can't do DD and that. 00:22:21
And. 00:22:25
Because we don't. 00:22:26
Want anything happening or your employees? 00:22:28
So you might just have to scale back. 00:22:31
Until we can get a handle on this. 00:22:33
And. 00:22:36
Once we do, you'll be home. 00:22:39
Say hey, this is what we found. 00:22:41
This is the direction. 00:22:43
Yes. 00:22:49
And I'll, I'll say this, Dave, I. 00:22:51
I commend you. 00:22:54
For what you've been doing. 00:22:56
You took over after Really. Scott left and Jump. 00:22:58
With both feet you took over multiple roles. 00:23:03
The staff is. 00:23:08
Performed I think excellently, with a few people maybe having. 00:23:10
You know been ill or or left as well. 00:23:14
This is not a reflection of anything that any of our people or you have have done, certainly. 00:23:18
I I think this is a. 00:23:24
I think this is a forced upon us decision. 00:23:30
That. 00:23:36
Makes it very difficult for us to. 00:23:40
Provide the services that the public has come to expect. 00:23:44
And I think that. 00:23:49
Like we said, what we're trying to do here right now. 00:23:51
Is. 00:23:54
Just to freeze things while we try and figure out what the new reality looks like. 00:23:55
Six months from now, we may all come back to the table and say, you know what? We actually think this wasn't as bad as what we 00:24:03
thought. 00:24:07
We've got ideas for. 00:24:11
How we're going to get through it. 00:24:13
You're able to hire back some some more people or we're able to adjust. 00:24:15
What we provide. 00:24:19
I I guess 11 direct question I wouldn't say to you. 00:24:23
Right now, knowing what you've been going through and what. 00:24:27
You're doing to try and cover things. 00:24:30
If you had to make a decision today. 00:24:33
About what area? 00:24:38
You would stop service on or you. 00:24:40
You you get the biggest bang for your buck and cutting back on what would that be? 00:24:43
Would that be? 00:24:48
I don't, I don't know at this moment. 00:24:53
If we stop. 00:24:56
You know, we've had such a. 00:24:57
Good relationship with the kids. 00:24:59
Community, you know, and our citizenship. 00:25:03
That's going to be the best. 00:25:05
**** us like. 00:25:08
Yeah. 00:25:10
Services is trying. 00:25:11
To explain to them why. 00:25:12
Do you think that will all come back to you? 00:25:15
So that's going to be the. 00:25:19
As far as the hiring mortgage. 00:25:22
Right now. 00:25:24
I was nobody to leave. 00:25:25
I mean, I'm solid right now. 00:25:26
At the moment. 00:25:30
People find out that this is going away and say my 2. 00:25:33
I've got two guys that are going Tuesday, Thursday, say those guys decide they're going to go. 00:25:36
Then then I'm hopes again. 00:25:41
Our services. 00:25:44
That we have contracts with. 00:25:47
Well, and and I think the message to them. 00:25:52
Is. 00:25:55
Hey, we're trying. 00:25:56
Take stock is something that's happened at Indianapolis. 00:25:59
As soon as we know more information. 00:26:03
We'll update you guys, but. 00:26:05
Don't necessarily. 00:26:07
Go running from the building. 00:26:09
We just got to take a fast minute to figure out what. 00:26:12
Where things are at? 00:26:15
Well, I think. 00:26:17
Will be incumbent upon use. 00:26:20
I would want to know. 00:26:22
Like Adam said at first. 00:26:24
We're at a point where it affects. 00:26:26
You feel like this isn't safe or? 00:26:29
We're putting our employees or you know. 00:26:31
Public, in harm's way. 00:26:34
By what we're trying to accomplish here, I would like to know and then. 00:26:36
I guarantee you we're going to get. 00:26:42
A bunch of calls. 00:26:45
This discussion that we're having now, because I know a lot of people are very passionate about it, but. 00:26:46
For those of that that have concerns, I, I. 00:26:51
Encourage you to call your state representative, your state senator and the governor. 00:26:54
And those very people that are passionate about that are also the ones that been. 00:26:58
Beat me up by taxes. 00:27:02
I mean, I agree so. 00:27:05
They all got their tax. 00:27:08
I'm going to make a motion that we. 00:27:14
Vote on this, OK? 00:27:16
We have a I have a 5:00 upstairs with. 00:27:19
Sheriff Bush and I'm gonna. 00:27:22
OK, probably. 00:27:23
Frank for that. 00:27:26
Important maybe, I think that believe it was still a quorum if I could take. 00:27:28
A commissioner and an attorney upstairs. 00:27:31
I have a motion. I move. 00:27:34
Approval. 00:27:38
I got a motion by Al. Do I have a second? 00:27:39
A second. 00:27:42
Second by Brandon, is there any further discussion? 00:27:43
OK, all in favor of approving the solid waste hiring moratorium, signify by saying aye. 00:27:47
Aye, any opposed? 00:27:55
That carries. 00:27:57
You guys want to go ahead and. 00:27:59
Thing. 00:28:00
Yeah. 00:28:03
All right, Dave, if you wanna. 00:28:17
Continue on with your directors report, please. OK, All right. 00:28:18
Marketing and excuse me, I went through some. 00:28:23
Pollen. 00:28:30
The albums so. 00:28:31
No. 00:28:34
Marketing Communications. 00:28:37
So it looks like we've got 868 new users. 00:28:40
I'm just going to kind of hit the high points. 00:28:44
Operations and initiatives. 00:28:46
March Dashboard. 00:28:49
Try to count 4988. 00:28:51
Looks like it's up 11% from last year. 00:28:53
Leave. 00:28:58
She had 13 more tons of. 00:29:00
Product the year before. 00:29:03
Sorry, Dave. Sorry about that, Dave. 00:29:07
And due to the severe storms, we've had several outages. 00:29:10
Everyone. I think I made you aware of them, Jason, each time that we were down. 00:29:15
The last one being the wind and the. 00:29:19
Power outages. 00:29:21
Umm. 00:29:23
Oh HW. 00:29:27
So we brought on a couple of new suppliers this year. 00:29:30
To try to clean up the. 00:29:35
A lot of the oil based paint. 00:29:37
Over the last couple years it seems like we had a mix of. 00:29:41
Old basin water base that we were spending a lot of money. 00:29:45
Getting rid of. 00:29:48
By bringing on. 00:29:49
Crystal clean. 00:29:51
And American paint recyclers. We were able to go through all of our paint. 00:29:53
Supply and separate it out and it's a huge. 00:29:57
Cost difference in getting rid of all base versus just water base? 00:30:01
Crystal Clean also is our supplier for picking up all. 00:30:09
Didn't want to freeze. 00:30:13
We closed the B&C auto parts. 00:30:16
Drop off location upon Paoli Pike. 00:30:19
We're in the process. 00:30:23
Maybe of relocating That's 350 gallon tank. 00:30:25
To grant line. 00:30:30
Which would give us that 700 gallon capacity on oil. 00:30:32
The more the more that we have, the less it costs to get rid of. 00:30:36
So with that. 00:30:40
Will probably be on hold. 00:30:42
Right until. 00:30:44
A education. 00:30:48
Big thing is the. 00:30:51
Pollinator Day is April 26th. 00:30:53
I think 10 years running locally. 00:30:56
More Riddle. 00:31:00
Heading that up. 00:31:01
Along with the two of our new or part time employees. 00:31:03
Olivia Jenkins, who is a sustainability student from. 00:31:06
IUS and Jarrett Miles, which is another younger. 00:31:11
Employee that he. 00:31:15
That we have, and that's at Purdue University on August the 26th. 00:31:16
April 26, Yes, sorry. 00:31:26
So like we were talking about, we brought on for part time operators. 00:31:30
Jerry Miles, who's just an outstanding young man. 00:31:35
Lots of opportunity and lots of just. 00:31:40
Extremely hard worker illegal Jenkins is the. 00:31:44
Sustainability student. 00:31:47
She was also going to. 00:31:49
Be part of exercising our tire grant. 00:31:52
Which I guess will. 00:31:54
You know, have to discuss that further. 00:31:56
If we're going to continue on with that. 00:31:59
Elisa. 00:32:02
Garland is a part time. She works every other Saturday. 00:32:03
Very hard worker. 00:32:07
So again, right now we've got a. 00:32:08
Fairly solid. 00:32:10
Group of part time employees. 00:32:11
Special projects Projects. 00:32:15
The waist high grant. 00:32:18
I guess that would be. 00:32:19
TBD. 00:32:21
But we were going to target June. 00:32:24
And we want to target 10 tires per resident. 00:32:27
So we wouldn't be overrun. 00:32:31
With the. 00:32:33
With tires. 00:32:34
I know there's one customer, that one patron that had talked to Laura. 00:32:35
That had like 300 tires. 00:32:39
That they wanted to get rid of. That's not who we want to serve. 00:32:42
So with the $10,000 we figured we can get rid of. 00:32:47
Any worse to from 2 to 3000 tires because it's going to cost us anywhere? 00:32:50
3 to $5 per. 00:32:55
To process. 00:32:57
And again, that is 100%. 00:32:59
Reimbursement grant. 00:33:02
So we just brought the money up and they reimburse us once it's done. 00:33:04
Budgets and financial. 00:33:09
Our total expenses were under budget. 00:33:13
For the month of March by 27%. 00:33:16
Office supplies was a little bit over. 00:33:19
He had needed to replenish some of the stuff they could. 00:33:22
Carry needed. 00:33:26
And also some of the. 00:33:28
Recycling boxes that we. 00:33:29
Have been trying a process with Amazon. 00:33:31
Getting rid of lamps. 00:33:36
Utility Services was up. 00:33:38
Of course we had some cold. 00:33:40
You know, continue to have some cold spells. 00:33:42
And we went to full electric heat. 00:33:45
You know, so we don't have to go run and get propane three times a week. 00:33:48
Even though uh. 00:33:52
That bill is higher. On the flip side, we're not buying propane. 00:33:53
We're not driving down to the. 00:33:57
Propane place, you know. 00:33:59
Spending time doing that, so it's kind of a wash. 00:34:01
So I guess that is pretty much it. 00:34:04
For the director. 00:34:08
Anyone have any questions for? 00:34:10
Say, Dave, the only thing that I would say is that in regard to the waste tire grant. 00:34:12
Before we accept that, maybe I think it's worth. 00:34:19
At least notifying. 00:34:23
The board via. 00:34:25
E-mail, would that be OK and just determining where we are? 00:34:26
Yeah, I think that would be fine. It sounds like it's a reimbursement grant. So if we don't use it, we won't be reimbursed. So it 00:34:30
sounds like it shouldn't be an issue, but I think it may be wise for us to take a look at that. 00:34:36
Sounds good to me. 00:34:43
I guess that the comment if. 00:34:45
There's a grant for waste tires as there are other grants that we're not reaching out and getting. 00:34:47
It seems like recycling is a big deal nationwide. 00:34:52
Right now we're trying to just. 00:34:55
The two grants that we have. 00:34:58
Like the is the. 00:35:00
Rd. Gram. 00:35:02
Yeah, the. 00:35:17
The RM. 00:35:23
DP granted his neighborhood branch. 00:35:25
It's that one ends in. 00:35:27
At the end of May. 00:35:30
I didn't set to do. 00:35:30
Site visit on the 20. 00:35:32
1st. 00:35:33
So. 00:35:35
We have to pass that visit. 00:35:37
How old are the Japanese published? 00:35:41
I guess my point is that are we using? 00:35:44
Are we seeking out all the grants? We can find those. 00:35:46
Like for example, the health department gets a lot of grants. Probation is totally fine. 00:35:49
My grants. 00:35:54
To go out and seek. 00:35:58
Herman was doing. She was with me. 00:36:01
Right, right. So she's, she's gone. 00:36:04
Did not place her. 00:36:06
So right now. 00:36:07
We don't have. 00:36:09
An hour or two. 00:36:11
It takes a lot of time. 00:36:12
Drill through these grants to get done. 00:36:14
Can I make a suggestion on the grants? 00:36:17
So the the city and the county are connected to River Hills. 00:36:21
Which, among other things, does do grant writing. 00:36:27
Given what Dave has just said and taking into account. 00:36:31
That there may be some services from them. 00:36:35
That they could assist with. 00:36:39
There may be. 00:36:42
Depending on the particulars and administration of the grant, there may be some fees that would be incurred at some point, but. 00:36:45
It seems to me like. 00:36:53
It might be good to get Dave with Corey Cochran. 00:36:54
To. 00:36:57
Try to supplement. 00:36:59
With existing services that we have options. 00:37:01
If that's OK, I will see Corey on Thursday at the. 00:37:06
River Hills meeting. 00:37:10
And I could. 00:37:11
Facilitate. 00:37:13
Putting the two of them together. 00:37:14
And maybe that's the way we we look at seeing if there's any opportunity to make that synergy work. 00:37:16
To both help out on the staffing side and help. 00:37:22
Find some. 00:37:25
Additional dollars, if that. 00:37:26
I'd supplement the budget. 00:37:29
My only recognition would be that. 00:37:30
Any grant that you consider come back to you all to, of course. Yep, Yep. 00:37:32
Usually the way they operate is they. 00:37:39
Having their contract or percentage that they would take out of the grant, that would be something that Corey would be able to 00:37:43
save funds. 00:37:47
Before we proceed forward with any agreements. 00:37:51
Exactly. Yeah, I think that's worthy of doing so if you didn't get. 00:37:53
Make that happen on Thursday. 00:37:56
Just go kind of go from there. 00:37:58
Follow Christie's advice so. 00:38:00
Anybody any more questions for Dave? 00:38:02
Thanks, Dave. 00:38:06
Is there any public comment? 00:38:07
Yes, Sir. 00:38:09
I found it how difficult it is to write something on this. 00:38:13
Tiny little object. 00:38:17
I'm not sure something I think. 00:38:20
Had a hinted at possible elimination. 00:38:22
Of the service. 00:38:24
Is this not required by the state? 00:38:26
I thought the state created. 00:38:28
Of this so I'll. 00:38:31
Push that to. 00:38:34
Our attorney because it's my understanding that that is no longer. 00:38:35
I do not believe at this moment that that is an requirement of state statute. 00:38:40
OK. 00:38:44
Possible use of volunteers. 00:38:48
I every once in a while volunteer a little bit. 00:38:51
There might be some other people who believe in this enough that they would volunteer. 00:38:57
Is there going to be an issue with? 00:39:01
Liability. 00:39:03
Things like that. 00:39:06
I would. I think that probably best sits in the hands of. 00:39:07
And you know if he has any thoughts or concerns kind of going forward with that, I know that it seems like you all use volunteers 00:39:11
quite a bit for. 00:39:15
Things. 00:39:19
There is a little bit of liability when it comes to. 00:39:20
I know. Yeah, I said we would have a liability waiver and. 00:39:24
Yeah. 00:39:29
Sure. 00:39:31
Yeah. 00:39:39
I think I think that's the problem with anybody that leans on volunteers, at least at this point, no matter what. 00:39:40
Realm you're in is that. 00:39:46
Everybody's just fighting to kind of make ends meet. 00:39:48
Family's life is just. 00:39:51
Very busy where? 00:39:54
People just don't have the time that they once did and then. 00:39:55
Of course you know. 00:39:58
A lot of people who. 00:40:01
Live here in Floyd County, don't work here in Floyd County, so there's travel times. 00:40:03
You know, there's a multitude of different things and. 00:40:07
Reasons that volunteers just haven't seemed to workout very well. But. 00:40:09
That's one of the things I hear on the fire service side too, is. 00:40:14
You know, people get upset because you know. 00:40:17
Firefighters getting paid X Well, you know, how many times did you drive by that volunteer Firehouse when I said firefighters 00:40:19
needed? 00:40:22
He just kept driving. 00:40:25
I well, I. 00:40:30
We had to cut any part of it but. 00:40:33
I think the collections of the subdivision would be. 00:40:36
Logical first thing to cut. 00:40:40
Never mind. 00:40:50
Yeah, well. 00:40:54
Possibility of. 00:40:54
Funding from public. 00:40:55
Businesses. 00:40:58
You're talking about a possible grant, right? 00:40:59
Yeah. I, I, I think when I was envisioning was a way to look at what's out there and, you know, be able to continue to go after 00:41:02
those grant funds for. 00:41:07
Programmatic pieces or what have you, but. 00:41:13
You know, I would not be opposed again, kind of. 00:41:16
Marking back on earlier comments. 00:41:20
The meeting that I shared was a tart meeting where they were talking about potential service cuts. 00:41:23
And they made reference that a particular big. 00:41:28
Corporate. Uh. 00:41:32
Business had paid for. 00:41:33
A route. 00:41:36
To be run in southern Indiana. 00:41:37
If a business is so. 00:41:42
Dedicated to. 00:41:44
And feels that the services as such that they get a direct benefit and they want to pay for. 00:41:46
For that. 00:41:53
I think we can come up with a cost. 00:41:54
And I would have no problem. 00:41:57
Entering that. 00:41:59
Into the dynamic of the services that we would provide. 00:42:01
A great example may be you know hey if the cardboard services is such a good service. 00:42:07
Here's what it costs us to. 00:42:15
Fully do that. 00:42:17
Without any subsidization at all. 00:42:18
And that may be different for different, you know. 00:42:22
For example, if I'm going out to the New Albany Industrial Park, that's not that far away from where the Baylor's at. If I got to 00:42:25
run all the way out to Greenville, that's a 20 minute drive. That may be a different story about what that looks like. 00:42:32
But I think you could have those discussions. 00:42:39
To see. 00:42:42
Is there a mathematical formula that works out for everyone that they would be willing to pay for that service? 00:42:43
OK. Thank you, Sir. 00:42:51
Any other public comment? 00:42:55
All right. Seeing none, does anybody in the board have any comments? 00:42:58
I mean, I'll just echo this again. I, I think everybody on a local level. 00:43:03
You know, for, for, for starters, none of us, I think. 00:43:10
Are against. 00:43:15
Property tax relief. 00:43:18
I don't think that any of us are against the services that are being provided, not just by solid waste but by a multitude of our. 00:43:20
Public offices, our police or fire, all of those things. 00:43:29
This is difficult. 00:43:35
For. 00:43:37
And. 00:43:38
You know, actions have consequences, and in this case it's. 00:43:40
Actions that took place in Indianapolis are going to have consequences here. 00:43:45
I don't want to scare anybody either. 00:43:50
Like I said earlier, we don't need. 00:43:53
Employees, we don't need the public. 00:43:56
Running around like chickens with their heads cut off. The sky is falling. 00:43:59
We need time. 00:44:04
So that we can figure out what this looks like. 00:44:05
We've been asked to come up with a new reality. 00:44:09
There are some tools in the tool chest that were given as part of that. 00:44:12
If the public is willing to to. 00:44:17
Accommodate some of that. 00:44:20
I'm I'm not a proponent of taxation here as a general rule, but. 00:44:23
If the majority of the public says that this is a great service and these other services are great services and they want us to 00:44:27
pass. 00:44:31
An income tax to provide for that as allowed by SB1. 00:44:35
Then maybe that's a discussion we have as a community. 00:44:39
But we have to make. 00:44:42
The adjustments and be prepared. 00:44:45
And we'd want to do it in a way that is responsible throughout this year as opposed to waiting until we get to January 1 and then 00:44:48
deciding, oh, we don't have enough money. 00:44:53
We're we're, we're gonna, you know, just lop off whole sections of our of our. 00:44:57
Government. 00:45:02
So, you know, I really think it's an opportunity for us to. 00:45:04
Take a moment to have time, and I want the public to be part of that. I want to have a dialogue and a conversation. And as it was 00:45:09
said earlier, if you don't like what's what's happening here, understand that. 00:45:15
Please make sure you register that with the folks who registered that on us. 00:45:22
I agree, you know. 00:45:28
The only thing I'm going to close with is that. 00:45:30
I go a lot of what Adam said, you know, a lot of this was forced upon us where we're going to have to make some tough decisions. 00:45:34
And I have no problem making tough decisions if I need to, but. 00:45:40
If you have a. 00:45:47
Questions about how some of this is kind of going down? I think maybe you need to reach out to your. 00:45:48
State elected offices that. 00:45:52
Voted in favor of this without really. 00:45:54
Much input from the local level so. 00:45:56
With that being said, I'll take a motion to adjourn. 00:46:00
So move. 00:46:03
Second, all right. 00:46:04
Have a good day. 00:46:06
Yeah, it's a fun meeting. 00:46:13
Yeah. 00:46:15
It's gonna be a bunch of fun. 00:46:18
Yeah, yeah. We're just getting started. Four months, yeah. 00:46:19
Oh yeah. 00:46:23
So everyone's going to be running the financial analysis. 00:46:26
All the fiscal analysis that's going to be done. 00:46:30
Well, I can tell you I've already seen the primary analysis out of after it came out of ways of me and it's cigarettes, yeah. 00:46:32

Transcript

Event transcript
Everybody, it's 4:30. I'm gonna go ahead and call to order this Floyd County Solid Waste Management District Board of Directors. 00:00:00
If you would please rise and join me for the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:06
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. 00:00:09
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:14
Thank you everyone for being here today. Looks like. 00:00:25
Everybody's in attendance, minus Mayor Gahan. 00:00:29
All right, look for approval of the February 18 minutes, please. 00:00:33
Motion to approve. 00:00:38
Got a motion by. 00:00:40
Al, second by Frank. 00:00:42
Any discussion? 00:00:44
All right, all in favor, signify by saying aye, aye. 00:00:46
Any opposed? 00:00:49
Cares. 00:00:50
Approval of the marked provisional claims. 00:00:53
And just. 00:00:57
Someone second. 00:01:00
We got a motion by Dale and a second by item. Any further discussion? 00:01:03
OK, seeing none, all in favor signify by saying aye. 00:01:09
Aye, any opposed? 00:01:12
That carries. 00:01:14
Approval of the April claims. 00:01:16
Have a motion by Dale. 00:01:21
Second by Brandon. 00:01:27
Any further discussion? 00:01:29
All right, all in favor, signify by saying aye. 00:01:31
Any post? 00:01:34
And that cares. 00:01:35
All right. 00:01:38
Solid waste hiring moratorium. 00:01:39
Oh, I'm sorry, you're right. 00:01:43
Approval of Resolution 2025-303 with the amended Exhibit A, which is our vendors. 00:01:46
Is that correct? 00:01:53
Yes. 00:01:55
And we're just adding. 00:01:56
American paint recyclers like. 00:01:58
Lighting resources. 00:02:00
The UPS Store. 00:02:02
So moved. 00:02:05
Got a motion by them. Can I get a second? 00:02:08
Second Second by Dale. 00:02:09
All right, any further discussion? 00:02:12
All in favor signify by saying aye. 00:02:13
Aye, any opposed? 00:02:16
That carries. 00:02:17
Solid waste hiring moratorium. 00:02:20
Christy. 00:02:23
Yeah, I have a resolution prepared. It would be resolution 2025-O four. 00:02:24
For a hiring freeze. 00:02:30
Happy to read through that so I would like me to. 00:02:32
But directing that you all make that. 00:02:35
Decision in this resolution to place a hiring freeze on the Solid Waste Management District. 00:02:39
Passed that recommendation of resolution on to Commissioners for further action in the briefing. 00:02:46
Happy to answer any questions. 00:02:50
See if I have any questions. 00:02:55
No, I mean it's it's probably worth of a broader discussion of why this is taking place and I'm working with the lead off on that 00:02:57
or I can't end it. 00:03:01
Yeah, I, I, I. 00:03:05
We can discuss it first. Discuss it. 00:03:09
Either or. OK. Yeah, yeah. 00:03:12
All right. No, I think you're right. I think I think there is. 00:03:14
A little bit discussion that needs to happen here, a little bit about. 00:03:17
Why? This is the way it is as it stands right now. 00:03:20
You know, for. 00:03:23
Quite a while now, I think we've all been. 00:03:25
Wondering where we're going to fall? 00:03:29
If Senate Bill 1. 00:03:32
Was to be passed. 00:03:33
And what that would? 00:03:35
Look like for our communities. 00:03:36
Last night the the bill did pass. 00:03:40
Through the Senate. 00:03:43
And was given to the governor and is my understanding that has now been signed by the governor into law. 00:03:44
So. 00:03:49
I can tell you the the fiscal impacts. 00:03:50
That I've seen that's been distributed to me and I'm sure. 00:03:53
Some other members. 00:03:57
I've probably seen in that too. 00:03:58
You know. 00:04:00
I think a lot of communities, not just here in Floyd County but throughout the state of Indiana are going to have to take a look. 00:04:02
At the services. 00:04:08
That they provide. 00:04:09
And. 00:04:11
Ask ourselves. 00:04:12
You know is. 00:04:13
Are we going to have to? 00:04:16
To start. 00:04:17
Taking a broader look at those that are statutorily required or. 00:04:18
What's going to be leftover for? 00:04:24
Kind of Anything else? 00:04:26
And. 00:04:28
I think our our thoughts was as far as. 00:04:30
Commissioners. 00:04:33
You know. 00:04:35
We don't know what our budget's going to. 00:04:36
Really look like until a certain point, so. 00:04:38
I know that. 00:04:41
The commissioners have kind of felt that. 00:04:43
At least as far as I'm concerned. I don't want to speak for Alan Frank, but. 00:04:46
I hate the thought of promising a job to somebody that may not be there. 00:04:52
Whether it be part-time or full. 00:04:55
You know, that's a lot of work for. 00:04:57
Our human resources people. 00:04:59
And umm, uh. 00:05:01
I don't like making promises that I can't keep so. 00:05:03
That's just my thoughts. I like to open it up to everybody else and. 00:05:06
Get everyone else's thoughts. 00:05:09
Moving forward, yeah, I mean on my end, you know, I. 00:05:11
You kind of hope to the last minute something like that's not going to pass, but it did fast. 00:05:14
There's been hallway conversations. This is this is probably 1 of many discussions we're going to have to have with every 00:05:19
department within the county. 00:05:23
Not only with regards to. 00:05:28
Hiring freezes, but. 00:05:29
Perhaps even. 00:05:30
Cutbacks, I mean. 00:05:32
The projected impact on. 00:05:34
Annual budgets for 26/27/28 are very substantial. 00:05:38
Conversations leading up to last night's vote. 00:05:43
With state representatives and senators basically said, well, you're going to have the option to. 00:05:46
Initiate or enact a local income tax. 00:05:53
So we can debate it all. We want the wisdom of that, but. 00:05:57
Happen and so the reality is you're going to have less money. So you're either going to have. 00:06:00
Have to. 00:06:05
Reduce services somewhere along the way where you're going to have to. 00:06:07
Raise revenue. 00:06:11
And there's just no other way around that We're not going to be able to control. 00:06:13
Continue with what? The status quo so. 00:06:15
This is. 00:06:18
In no way isolated. 00:06:18
Look at. 00:06:21
Recycling. 00:06:22
You guys do a great job. You have done a great job with the budgets all along. 00:06:24
There's less money. 00:06:27
Decisions are going to have to be made so. 00:06:29
I agree this is. 00:06:32
Logical first step is not to bring somebody new on board. 00:06:34
With the promise of a job that may not be there for fiscal 2026. 00:06:38
So I agree. 00:06:43
Targeted this. 00:06:50
This was passed last night just after midnight, so we're not even going to know the reality of the impacts until it's probably 00:06:52
been initiated. 00:06:56
And. 00:07:00
DLGF looks at with regards to this solid waste hiring freeze. 00:07:03
I mean it would it would be in place. 00:07:06
Effective immediately. 00:07:09
Yeah, OK. So. 00:07:12
At our polling would work with. 00:07:14
Employees that we have. 00:07:15
You know we have. 00:07:17
14 employees right now. 00:07:19
So we're we're day. 00:07:21
If someone calls in sick. 00:07:23
And if we don't have someone to fill that spot? 00:07:27
Yeah, we're at Italian. 00:07:29
Risk of shutting down that day. 00:07:30
I mean, fortunately. 00:07:33
I've been feeling well. 00:07:34
Lot for sick people. 00:07:35
You know, for people that. 00:07:38
We had some nutrition people. 00:07:39
Leaving SO. 00:07:42
Right now we're running. 00:07:45
Nip and tuck day-to-day. 00:07:48
I just need a date. 00:07:57
When is this going to happen? 00:07:59
We can't like, just say. 00:08:03
If you expect us to run the next six months. 00:08:05
Without any hiccups. 00:08:08
And if I have two people leave? 00:08:10
And I can't run. 00:08:14
I think of a moratorium goes to. 00:08:16
Place and. 00:08:18
You are maxed out with regards to staffing then. 00:08:20
I think it's very reasonable expectation that. 00:08:23
Service hours would have to be cut back. 00:08:25
To reflect on that. 00:08:28
I mean, it's not going to be impacting you and your career. It's going to be impacting. 00:08:29
The citizens of Floyd County as well, but. 00:08:33
The reality is we're not going to be able to run. 00:08:35
Like we have been running. 00:08:37
And so. 00:08:40
It certainly would be. 00:08:42
My opinion, I'm one of many on the board here, but. 00:08:44
If you came to us and said, hey, this is what I can do with the crew that I have available. 00:08:46
I think it's incumbent upon us to look at that. 00:08:51
In light of that reality, and whether that means your. 00:08:54
It's going to be shut down the half day here that you weren't before then. 00:08:57
That's that's, that's those are the. 00:09:01
The predictable. 00:09:03
And unforeseen consequences of this type of bill that was passed last night. 00:09:08
And this is going to have ripple effects through every. 00:09:12
Every department within the county and the city. 00:09:16
I don't. I don't think so. 00:09:32
And I say that because. 00:09:35
You know, uh. 00:09:37
Depending on. 00:09:38
What this board determines. 00:09:39
You know, and the commissioners. 00:09:41
You know. 00:09:43
We have some areas that have prepaid for service. 00:09:47
If we have to use. 00:09:50
Money that we budgeted to repay them back because we can't meet our obligation, I mean. 00:09:51
That's just what's going to. 00:09:57
Possibly have to be done. 00:09:58
I'd still like to hear from. 00:10:00
Adam and Brandon as far as. 00:10:01
These impacts for you guys, what you're all thinking on this as well? 00:10:04
I mean I. 00:10:09
I'm on board with it. If you got to reduce hours, I think that's a smart idea just to. 00:10:12
Keep afloat. 00:10:17
Well, I mean doing that. 00:10:18
Producing services. 00:10:20
We've got 30. 00:10:21
37. 00:10:22
Different customers that we are obtaining. 00:10:24
Right now for the year. 00:10:27
To pick up. 00:10:28
Right, so. 00:10:30
You're saying that we pay them back? 00:10:31
And stop their services. 00:10:34
Well, what I would recommend. 00:10:36
This is due to moratorium saying do not hire anybody because we don't know what we're doing. 00:10:39
Because we don't have the financial impact yet. 00:10:45
So I agree. 00:10:48
Without that I think. 00:10:49
If I was you, I would just go back and. 00:10:52
Look at your what you have to do and say this is what I have to. 00:10:55
To do and this is what what people I have available. 00:10:59
And redo. 00:11:02
What you're doing for that? 00:11:05
You're going to have to change your schedule and your obligations. 00:11:08
To the people that you have on hand. 00:11:11
And that could be a fluid situation where? 00:11:14
Two weeks from now, you don't have that many people you may have to. 00:11:17
Do it again or come to us and say, OK, this is what's happened again and hopefully. 00:11:20
It won't be too long before we have an answer. 00:11:26
What we're going to do, but you will be. 00:11:29
First person to know. 00:11:32
I mean, we're not holding anything back. We just don't know. But we. 00:11:34
I agree with Jason, in fact, that that would be the worst thing to do to hire somebody. 00:11:38
And then 90 days or 80 days, 180 days from now, it says sorry. 00:11:43
When maybe they had a job offer somewhere else that they passed out. 00:11:48
So we just want to avoid that. 00:11:53
But at this point you just got to go back and say OK. 00:11:55
This is what I have available. These are the resources I have available. This is Money. 00:11:59
And I'm going to change it. It might be instead of four hours a day, might be two hours. 00:12:04
I don't. I don't know your job. 00:12:10
So so let me. 00:12:12
Dave, let me interject similar. 00:12:14
Here a couple of questions for you. 00:12:17
Do you have right now any positions that you were wanting or otherwise had out? 00:12:21
For hiring. 00:12:27
No, not unless someone leaves. 00:12:29
Not you are not planning on. 00:12:32
That know someone who's OK that's that's good. 00:12:35
Second question. 00:12:38
Are you able to? 00:12:40
Prioritize. 00:12:42
I think of this like light switches. 00:12:45
If we don't have enough. 00:12:47
Power coming in. 00:12:49
Just to generate all the lights in the room. 00:12:51
We're going to start to turn off lights. 00:12:54
We're going to turn off the back of the room first because we're up here at the front of the room. We need to see. 00:12:56
And we're eventually going to get to the very front. 00:13:01
Maybe turn off our monitors and then we're going to turn off all the lights. 00:13:05
Our goal is not to turn off all the lights and shut. 00:13:10
The solid waste operation down. 00:13:12
I will acknowledge that I think there is a discussion at some point. 00:13:15
About whether or not. 00:13:19
Once we've shut so much. 00:13:20
Off whether it's advantageous for us to to continue with the solid waste, I agree. 00:13:22
And that's not out of a desire that I want to terminate the program. 00:13:29
That's a reflection that you do need certain monies to be able to do. 00:13:34
A basic level. 00:13:41
Service. 00:13:43
To the customer base. To the citizens above the county. 00:13:44
And if we don't have that? 00:13:48
Then, as much as I hate to say it, that was the priority set in Indianapolis, so. 00:13:50
That's the priority set in Indianapolis. 00:13:56
I think you've nailed it on the head there is this. This has been. 00:13:58
Taken out of our hands at the local level. 00:14:02
And. 00:14:04
I will, I will say. 00:14:07
I think Christy I I don't have a copy of the text in front of me, but I'm assuming. 00:14:10
You can pass it down if you've got it real quick, but I'm assuming the text is only. 00:14:15
Hiring moratorium for this point. 00:14:21
Forward until we would. 00:14:24
Yes, it is hiring replacement of positions or new positions. 00:14:27
Until you all decide to terminate. 00:14:31
If there were some sort of emergency situation, special circumstance, the director could come to the Flade County Commissioners 00:14:34
to. 00:14:37
Ask for an exception to be granted. 00:14:41
That would be a case by case basis for the Commissioners to consider. Yeah, we can reverse that at any time, yeah. 00:14:44
So. So yeah. 00:14:49
I think, I think what we are acknowledging here. 00:14:53
Dave, is is that? 00:14:56
We don't know. 00:14:58
Without seeing the fiscal impact. 00:15:00
Without getting into the budgetary process, which is going to start in earnest. 00:15:02
Here in the next few few months. 00:15:07
We don't know where we're going to be. 00:15:10
With any of our our funding sources, I don't want to put you guys in a. 00:15:14
In a bad place. 00:15:19
I think there's some things I want you to prioritize. 00:15:23
If there's an element of safety involved. 00:15:26
Obviously that needs to be brought to our attention and we need to recognize that. 00:15:29
If it's a total element of function involved, you know somebody's left. 00:15:35
And without that person, we can't run the route because we have to have someone who's got a CDL or something like that. 00:15:40
That that needs to be brought to our attention. 00:15:47
But I think. 00:15:50
Unfortunately. 00:15:52
What I'd like to see you do is. 00:15:54
Work on a. 00:15:57
Plan for. 00:15:59
What? Uh. 00:16:02
We could. 00:16:03
Essentially. 00:16:04
Idle back. 00:16:06
And some of that may be. 00:16:07
Be informed with the contracts too. I think we need to take a look at all the terms of the contracts right now. 00:16:09
To see what. 00:16:15
The exit clause is. 00:16:17
And what the end date are? 00:16:19
Not because I don't want to renew them. 00:16:21
I do want to redo them. 00:16:24
But I also. 00:16:26
Want us to be aware? 00:16:28
So that when we get to a point where we would enter in a renewal. 00:16:29
We're taking that into account with what we actually have and the ability to provide it. 00:16:35
Now there could be some accommodations made with. 00:16:39
The people were providing services to. 00:16:42
I don't know that this is the case, but maybe somebody wants to cover the whole thing. I had a conversation with. 00:16:46
With somebody recently about a service and they said what if we paid for the whole route? 00:16:51
Well, I guess if you want to pay for it. In this case it was a tarp grout. 00:16:57
If a business wants to pay for a tarcrout. 00:17:00
I mean, I think that. 00:17:04
Heart should fund that. 00:17:06
So maybe in our case, there's somebody that would pay for. 00:17:09
All those expenses related to. 00:17:12
You know. 00:17:15
A service. 00:17:16
But I think we need to get a handle on where all these are and kind of come up with a triage plan. 00:17:19
Because what this is going to be? 00:17:26
You know, we've all taken up a bullet, if you will. 00:17:28
And we're going to have to triage how we stem that bleeding. 00:17:31
Not knowing at this point even how much blood we're losing. 00:17:35
And you know. 00:17:40
Anyone who's been in the battlefield knows that sometimes you're able to say that. 00:17:42
Man, sometimes you're able to save the whole body, Sometimes you gotta. 00:17:46
Take that into account. 00:17:50
So. 00:17:51
I guess what I'm saying is. 00:17:53
I'll be supportive of a moratorium right now from the standpoint of. 00:17:57
It gives us an opportunity to get more information. 00:18:02
But I think that this isn't just a one off. 00:18:05
We're going to put everyone on the moratorium. I think the other piece is we need to work with you. 00:18:09
To plan and game this out. 00:18:14
So that we know. 00:18:16
At different levels. 00:18:18
This is what we're able to do if we only have this much money. This is what we're able to do with a little bit more. 00:18:19
A little bit less. 00:18:25
So that we're able to figure out what that looks like. 00:18:27
And then from you, I think we have to know. 00:18:30
Where are the critical break points? 00:18:33
We can exhaust the staff. 00:18:35
Because. 00:18:37
We put in a hiring moratorium. 00:18:39
And I think as a board we need to be realistic that all options are on the table. 00:18:46
We're going to have to come up with some decision for 2026 at some point, probably no later than. 00:18:50
July or August? 00:18:56
This year so that. 00:18:57
Worst case scenario for winding down. 00:18:58
We need to do that in a responsible way. 00:19:00
If it looks like there's no money there for 2026, we need to. 00:19:04
Populist for that and. 00:19:08
If there's. 00:19:10
Middle ground, whether it's scaled back services that we provide or that we contract with a third party for. 00:19:11
I mean as well those those situations where I think. 00:19:18
All options are on debt. 00:19:21
So I don't want to give anybody. 00:19:22
False hope, but I don't also. 00:19:24
Create a crisis where there. 00:19:26
Isn't one existing on this day? 00:19:27
Good lead in. 00:19:32
I spoke with Jason yesterday so. 00:19:34
You have contract, we have. You have contracts. 00:19:36
People picked up their. 00:19:39
For example. 00:19:41
I see a one of your. 00:19:42
I've been sitting at Ace Hardware. 00:19:43
Do they pay for that? 00:19:46
They pay. They pay a service. 00:19:48
Per year so that that particular. 00:19:50
It custom and the county does not subsidized anything. 00:19:53
Anyway. 00:19:56
Well, we. 00:19:57
Take their cardboard and we bring it back and we bail it. 00:19:59
So that. 00:20:03
That that location is so close to us. 00:20:04
We're able to bring it back. 00:20:06
Bailey return that container back the same day. 00:20:08
Most times. 00:20:12
And for them to start full. 00:20:13
Good clean carpet. 00:20:15
Well, I guess my question is. 00:20:17
You get money for the cardboard then, right? 00:20:19
Yes, Yeah. Well, my question is, is that like Home Depot? 00:20:21
DC Lumber. 00:20:26
They have their own bailing machines. 00:20:27
You'll see cardboard sitting down. 00:20:29
They bring a semi and they haul it off to their own recycling. 00:20:32
So we have a contract. 00:20:35
Single stream and. 00:20:38
Their cardboard. 00:20:40
So we pick up, they hit PC has set up a. 00:20:42
Recycle. 00:20:46
Station per se. 00:20:47
Right, just for recycling. 00:20:48
And then we also pick up a Bella cardboard there. 00:20:51
Well, I agree with Frank. 00:20:56
That we talk about. 00:20:59
And we all have a vision of running government like a business. And we all know it's basically real, unrealistic, but. 00:21:00
A lot? No, I had small business in. 00:21:08
Every morning you determine this is what has to be done today. 00:21:10
This is to my staff I've got available today. 00:21:13
Other stuff just gets left alone if you had to put a padlock on them. 00:21:16
Richardson says. 00:21:19
Closed for the day. 00:21:20
Maybe an inconvenience to the public? 00:21:22
Temporary that we don't really want to put on but. 00:21:25
I love, like Adam said, we we really don't have. 00:21:29
Stop just this department. I'm where I said. 00:21:32
County Council. 00:21:34
At the last meeting I said well I suggest we start to have workshops like next week. 00:21:36
Because this is gonna happen. Every department is in. 00:21:40
Entire game of cutbacks. 00:21:42
Seeing what's really priorities. 00:21:46
Decisions for a lot of boards. 00:21:48
And once this starts. 00:21:50
Employees see that they participate. 00:21:52
Job you're going to leave. 00:21:54
And they're gonna leave. 00:21:56
And then we're going to have. 00:21:58
Even a bigger problem and I can tell you right now. 00:22:00
I'm at my Max. 00:22:02
OK, I'm doing. 00:22:05
Three jobs. 00:22:05
Happened in the last six months. 00:22:07
You have to go back and say. 00:22:10
I can't do this. 00:22:13
I don't have the people, I don't have the concept. 00:22:15
So you may have to say. 00:22:18
I can only do AB and CI, can't do DD and that. 00:22:21
And. 00:22:25
Because we don't. 00:22:26
Want anything happening or your employees? 00:22:28
So you might just have to scale back. 00:22:31
Until we can get a handle on this. 00:22:33
And. 00:22:36
Once we do, you'll be home. 00:22:39
Say hey, this is what we found. 00:22:41
This is the direction. 00:22:43
Yes. 00:22:49
And I'll, I'll say this, Dave, I. 00:22:51
I commend you. 00:22:54
For what you've been doing. 00:22:56
You took over after Really. Scott left and Jump. 00:22:58
With both feet you took over multiple roles. 00:23:03
The staff is. 00:23:08
Performed I think excellently, with a few people maybe having. 00:23:10
You know been ill or or left as well. 00:23:14
This is not a reflection of anything that any of our people or you have have done, certainly. 00:23:18
I I think this is a. 00:23:24
I think this is a forced upon us decision. 00:23:30
That. 00:23:36
Makes it very difficult for us to. 00:23:40
Provide the services that the public has come to expect. 00:23:44
And I think that. 00:23:49
Like we said, what we're trying to do here right now. 00:23:51
Is. 00:23:54
Just to freeze things while we try and figure out what the new reality looks like. 00:23:55
Six months from now, we may all come back to the table and say, you know what? We actually think this wasn't as bad as what we 00:24:03
thought. 00:24:07
We've got ideas for. 00:24:11
How we're going to get through it. 00:24:13
You're able to hire back some some more people or we're able to adjust. 00:24:15
What we provide. 00:24:19
I I guess 11 direct question I wouldn't say to you. 00:24:23
Right now, knowing what you've been going through and what. 00:24:27
You're doing to try and cover things. 00:24:30
If you had to make a decision today. 00:24:33
About what area? 00:24:38
You would stop service on or you. 00:24:40
You you get the biggest bang for your buck and cutting back on what would that be? 00:24:43
Would that be? 00:24:48
I don't, I don't know at this moment. 00:24:53
If we stop. 00:24:56
You know, we've had such a. 00:24:57
Good relationship with the kids. 00:24:59
Community, you know, and our citizenship. 00:25:03
That's going to be the best. 00:25:05
**** us like. 00:25:08
Yeah. 00:25:10
Services is trying. 00:25:11
To explain to them why. 00:25:12
Do you think that will all come back to you? 00:25:15
So that's going to be the. 00:25:19
As far as the hiring mortgage. 00:25:22
Right now. 00:25:24
I was nobody to leave. 00:25:25
I mean, I'm solid right now. 00:25:26
At the moment. 00:25:30
People find out that this is going away and say my 2. 00:25:33
I've got two guys that are going Tuesday, Thursday, say those guys decide they're going to go. 00:25:36
Then then I'm hopes again. 00:25:41
Our services. 00:25:44
That we have contracts with. 00:25:47
Well, and and I think the message to them. 00:25:52
Is. 00:25:55
Hey, we're trying. 00:25:56
Take stock is something that's happened at Indianapolis. 00:25:59
As soon as we know more information. 00:26:03
We'll update you guys, but. 00:26:05
Don't necessarily. 00:26:07
Go running from the building. 00:26:09
We just got to take a fast minute to figure out what. 00:26:12
Where things are at? 00:26:15
Well, I think. 00:26:17
Will be incumbent upon use. 00:26:20
I would want to know. 00:26:22
Like Adam said at first. 00:26:24
We're at a point where it affects. 00:26:26
You feel like this isn't safe or? 00:26:29
We're putting our employees or you know. 00:26:31
Public, in harm's way. 00:26:34
By what we're trying to accomplish here, I would like to know and then. 00:26:36
I guarantee you we're going to get. 00:26:42
A bunch of calls. 00:26:45
This discussion that we're having now, because I know a lot of people are very passionate about it, but. 00:26:46
For those of that that have concerns, I, I. 00:26:51
Encourage you to call your state representative, your state senator and the governor. 00:26:54
And those very people that are passionate about that are also the ones that been. 00:26:58
Beat me up by taxes. 00:27:02
I mean, I agree so. 00:27:05
They all got their tax. 00:27:08
I'm going to make a motion that we. 00:27:14
Vote on this, OK? 00:27:16
We have a I have a 5:00 upstairs with. 00:27:19
Sheriff Bush and I'm gonna. 00:27:22
OK, probably. 00:27:23
Frank for that. 00:27:26
Important maybe, I think that believe it was still a quorum if I could take. 00:27:28
A commissioner and an attorney upstairs. 00:27:31
I have a motion. I move. 00:27:34
Approval. 00:27:38
I got a motion by Al. Do I have a second? 00:27:39
A second. 00:27:42
Second by Brandon, is there any further discussion? 00:27:43
OK, all in favor of approving the solid waste hiring moratorium, signify by saying aye. 00:27:47
Aye, any opposed? 00:27:55
That carries. 00:27:57
You guys want to go ahead and. 00:27:59
Thing. 00:28:00
Yeah. 00:28:03
All right, Dave, if you wanna. 00:28:17
Continue on with your directors report, please. OK, All right. 00:28:18
Marketing and excuse me, I went through some. 00:28:23
Pollen. 00:28:30
The albums so. 00:28:31
No. 00:28:34
Marketing Communications. 00:28:37
So it looks like we've got 868 new users. 00:28:40
I'm just going to kind of hit the high points. 00:28:44
Operations and initiatives. 00:28:46
March Dashboard. 00:28:49
Try to count 4988. 00:28:51
Looks like it's up 11% from last year. 00:28:53
Leave. 00:28:58
She had 13 more tons of. 00:29:00
Product the year before. 00:29:03
Sorry, Dave. Sorry about that, Dave. 00:29:07
And due to the severe storms, we've had several outages. 00:29:10
Everyone. I think I made you aware of them, Jason, each time that we were down. 00:29:15
The last one being the wind and the. 00:29:19
Power outages. 00:29:21
Umm. 00:29:23
Oh HW. 00:29:27
So we brought on a couple of new suppliers this year. 00:29:30
To try to clean up the. 00:29:35
A lot of the oil based paint. 00:29:37
Over the last couple years it seems like we had a mix of. 00:29:41
Old basin water base that we were spending a lot of money. 00:29:45
Getting rid of. 00:29:48
By bringing on. 00:29:49
Crystal clean. 00:29:51
And American paint recyclers. We were able to go through all of our paint. 00:29:53
Supply and separate it out and it's a huge. 00:29:57
Cost difference in getting rid of all base versus just water base? 00:30:01
Crystal Clean also is our supplier for picking up all. 00:30:09
Didn't want to freeze. 00:30:13
We closed the B&C auto parts. 00:30:16
Drop off location upon Paoli Pike. 00:30:19
We're in the process. 00:30:23
Maybe of relocating That's 350 gallon tank. 00:30:25
To grant line. 00:30:30
Which would give us that 700 gallon capacity on oil. 00:30:32
The more the more that we have, the less it costs to get rid of. 00:30:36
So with that. 00:30:40
Will probably be on hold. 00:30:42
Right until. 00:30:44
A education. 00:30:48
Big thing is the. 00:30:51
Pollinator Day is April 26th. 00:30:53
I think 10 years running locally. 00:30:56
More Riddle. 00:31:00
Heading that up. 00:31:01
Along with the two of our new or part time employees. 00:31:03
Olivia Jenkins, who is a sustainability student from. 00:31:06
IUS and Jarrett Miles, which is another younger. 00:31:11
Employee that he. 00:31:15
That we have, and that's at Purdue University on August the 26th. 00:31:16
April 26, Yes, sorry. 00:31:26
So like we were talking about, we brought on for part time operators. 00:31:30
Jerry Miles, who's just an outstanding young man. 00:31:35
Lots of opportunity and lots of just. 00:31:40
Extremely hard worker illegal Jenkins is the. 00:31:44
Sustainability student. 00:31:47
She was also going to. 00:31:49
Be part of exercising our tire grant. 00:31:52
Which I guess will. 00:31:54
You know, have to discuss that further. 00:31:56
If we're going to continue on with that. 00:31:59
Elisa. 00:32:02
Garland is a part time. She works every other Saturday. 00:32:03
Very hard worker. 00:32:07
So again, right now we've got a. 00:32:08
Fairly solid. 00:32:10
Group of part time employees. 00:32:11
Special projects Projects. 00:32:15
The waist high grant. 00:32:18
I guess that would be. 00:32:19
TBD. 00:32:21
But we were going to target June. 00:32:24
And we want to target 10 tires per resident. 00:32:27
So we wouldn't be overrun. 00:32:31
With the. 00:32:33
With tires. 00:32:34
I know there's one customer, that one patron that had talked to Laura. 00:32:35
That had like 300 tires. 00:32:39
That they wanted to get rid of. That's not who we want to serve. 00:32:42
So with the $10,000 we figured we can get rid of. 00:32:47
Any worse to from 2 to 3000 tires because it's going to cost us anywhere? 00:32:50
3 to $5 per. 00:32:55
To process. 00:32:57
And again, that is 100%. 00:32:59
Reimbursement grant. 00:33:02
So we just brought the money up and they reimburse us once it's done. 00:33:04
Budgets and financial. 00:33:09
Our total expenses were under budget. 00:33:13
For the month of March by 27%. 00:33:16
Office supplies was a little bit over. 00:33:19
He had needed to replenish some of the stuff they could. 00:33:22
Carry needed. 00:33:26
And also some of the. 00:33:28
Recycling boxes that we. 00:33:29
Have been trying a process with Amazon. 00:33:31
Getting rid of lamps. 00:33:36
Utility Services was up. 00:33:38
Of course we had some cold. 00:33:40
You know, continue to have some cold spells. 00:33:42
And we went to full electric heat. 00:33:45
You know, so we don't have to go run and get propane three times a week. 00:33:48
Even though uh. 00:33:52
That bill is higher. On the flip side, we're not buying propane. 00:33:53
We're not driving down to the. 00:33:57
Propane place, you know. 00:33:59
Spending time doing that, so it's kind of a wash. 00:34:01
So I guess that is pretty much it. 00:34:04
For the director. 00:34:08
Anyone have any questions for? 00:34:10
Say, Dave, the only thing that I would say is that in regard to the waste tire grant. 00:34:12
Before we accept that, maybe I think it's worth. 00:34:19
At least notifying. 00:34:23
The board via. 00:34:25
E-mail, would that be OK and just determining where we are? 00:34:26
Yeah, I think that would be fine. It sounds like it's a reimbursement grant. So if we don't use it, we won't be reimbursed. So it 00:34:30
sounds like it shouldn't be an issue, but I think it may be wise for us to take a look at that. 00:34:36
Sounds good to me. 00:34:43
I guess that the comment if. 00:34:45
There's a grant for waste tires as there are other grants that we're not reaching out and getting. 00:34:47
It seems like recycling is a big deal nationwide. 00:34:52
Right now we're trying to just. 00:34:55
The two grants that we have. 00:34:58
Like the is the. 00:35:00
Rd. Gram. 00:35:02
Yeah, the. 00:35:17
The RM. 00:35:23
DP granted his neighborhood branch. 00:35:25
It's that one ends in. 00:35:27
At the end of May. 00:35:30
I didn't set to do. 00:35:30
Site visit on the 20. 00:35:32
1st. 00:35:33
So. 00:35:35
We have to pass that visit. 00:35:37
How old are the Japanese published? 00:35:41
I guess my point is that are we using? 00:35:44
Are we seeking out all the grants? We can find those. 00:35:46
Like for example, the health department gets a lot of grants. Probation is totally fine. 00:35:49
My grants. 00:35:54
To go out and seek. 00:35:58
Herman was doing. She was with me. 00:36:01
Right, right. So she's, she's gone. 00:36:04
Did not place her. 00:36:06
So right now. 00:36:07
We don't have. 00:36:09
An hour or two. 00:36:11
It takes a lot of time. 00:36:12
Drill through these grants to get done. 00:36:14
Can I make a suggestion on the grants? 00:36:17
So the the city and the county are connected to River Hills. 00:36:21
Which, among other things, does do grant writing. 00:36:27
Given what Dave has just said and taking into account. 00:36:31
That there may be some services from them. 00:36:35
That they could assist with. 00:36:39
There may be. 00:36:42
Depending on the particulars and administration of the grant, there may be some fees that would be incurred at some point, but. 00:36:45
It seems to me like. 00:36:53
It might be good to get Dave with Corey Cochran. 00:36:54
To. 00:36:57
Try to supplement. 00:36:59
With existing services that we have options. 00:37:01
If that's OK, I will see Corey on Thursday at the. 00:37:06
River Hills meeting. 00:37:10
And I could. 00:37:11
Facilitate. 00:37:13
Putting the two of them together. 00:37:14
And maybe that's the way we we look at seeing if there's any opportunity to make that synergy work. 00:37:16
To both help out on the staffing side and help. 00:37:22
Find some. 00:37:25
Additional dollars, if that. 00:37:26
I'd supplement the budget. 00:37:29
My only recognition would be that. 00:37:30
Any grant that you consider come back to you all to, of course. Yep, Yep. 00:37:32
Usually the way they operate is they. 00:37:39
Having their contract or percentage that they would take out of the grant, that would be something that Corey would be able to 00:37:43
save funds. 00:37:47
Before we proceed forward with any agreements. 00:37:51
Exactly. Yeah, I think that's worthy of doing so if you didn't get. 00:37:53
Make that happen on Thursday. 00:37:56
Just go kind of go from there. 00:37:58
Follow Christie's advice so. 00:38:00
Anybody any more questions for Dave? 00:38:02
Thanks, Dave. 00:38:06
Is there any public comment? 00:38:07
Yes, Sir. 00:38:09
I found it how difficult it is to write something on this. 00:38:13
Tiny little object. 00:38:17
I'm not sure something I think. 00:38:20
Had a hinted at possible elimination. 00:38:22
Of the service. 00:38:24
Is this not required by the state? 00:38:26
I thought the state created. 00:38:28
Of this so I'll. 00:38:31
Push that to. 00:38:34
Our attorney because it's my understanding that that is no longer. 00:38:35
I do not believe at this moment that that is an requirement of state statute. 00:38:40
OK. 00:38:44
Possible use of volunteers. 00:38:48
I every once in a while volunteer a little bit. 00:38:51
There might be some other people who believe in this enough that they would volunteer. 00:38:57
Is there going to be an issue with? 00:39:01
Liability. 00:39:03
Things like that. 00:39:06
I would. I think that probably best sits in the hands of. 00:39:07
And you know if he has any thoughts or concerns kind of going forward with that, I know that it seems like you all use volunteers 00:39:11
quite a bit for. 00:39:15
Things. 00:39:19
There is a little bit of liability when it comes to. 00:39:20
I know. Yeah, I said we would have a liability waiver and. 00:39:24
Yeah. 00:39:29
Sure. 00:39:31
Yeah. 00:39:39
I think I think that's the problem with anybody that leans on volunteers, at least at this point, no matter what. 00:39:40
Realm you're in is that. 00:39:46
Everybody's just fighting to kind of make ends meet. 00:39:48
Family's life is just. 00:39:51
Very busy where? 00:39:54
People just don't have the time that they once did and then. 00:39:55
Of course you know. 00:39:58
A lot of people who. 00:40:01
Live here in Floyd County, don't work here in Floyd County, so there's travel times. 00:40:03
You know, there's a multitude of different things and. 00:40:07
Reasons that volunteers just haven't seemed to workout very well. But. 00:40:09
That's one of the things I hear on the fire service side too, is. 00:40:14
You know, people get upset because you know. 00:40:17
Firefighters getting paid X Well, you know, how many times did you drive by that volunteer Firehouse when I said firefighters 00:40:19
needed? 00:40:22
He just kept driving. 00:40:25
I well, I. 00:40:30
We had to cut any part of it but. 00:40:33
I think the collections of the subdivision would be. 00:40:36
Logical first thing to cut. 00:40:40
Never mind. 00:40:50
Yeah, well. 00:40:54
Possibility of. 00:40:54
Funding from public. 00:40:55
Businesses. 00:40:58
You're talking about a possible grant, right? 00:40:59
Yeah. I, I, I think when I was envisioning was a way to look at what's out there and, you know, be able to continue to go after 00:41:02
those grant funds for. 00:41:07
Programmatic pieces or what have you, but. 00:41:13
You know, I would not be opposed again, kind of. 00:41:16
Marking back on earlier comments. 00:41:20
The meeting that I shared was a tart meeting where they were talking about potential service cuts. 00:41:23
And they made reference that a particular big. 00:41:28
Corporate. Uh. 00:41:32
Business had paid for. 00:41:33
A route. 00:41:36
To be run in southern Indiana. 00:41:37
If a business is so. 00:41:42
Dedicated to. 00:41:44
And feels that the services as such that they get a direct benefit and they want to pay for. 00:41:46
For that. 00:41:53
I think we can come up with a cost. 00:41:54
And I would have no problem. 00:41:57
Entering that. 00:41:59
Into the dynamic of the services that we would provide. 00:42:01
A great example may be you know hey if the cardboard services is such a good service. 00:42:07
Here's what it costs us to. 00:42:15
Fully do that. 00:42:17
Without any subsidization at all. 00:42:18
And that may be different for different, you know. 00:42:22
For example, if I'm going out to the New Albany Industrial Park, that's not that far away from where the Baylor's at. If I got to 00:42:25
run all the way out to Greenville, that's a 20 minute drive. That may be a different story about what that looks like. 00:42:32
But I think you could have those discussions. 00:42:39
To see. 00:42:42
Is there a mathematical formula that works out for everyone that they would be willing to pay for that service? 00:42:43
OK. Thank you, Sir. 00:42:51
Any other public comment? 00:42:55
All right. Seeing none, does anybody in the board have any comments? 00:42:58
I mean, I'll just echo this again. I, I think everybody on a local level. 00:43:03
You know, for, for, for starters, none of us, I think. 00:43:10
Are against. 00:43:15
Property tax relief. 00:43:18
I don't think that any of us are against the services that are being provided, not just by solid waste but by a multitude of our. 00:43:20
Public offices, our police or fire, all of those things. 00:43:29
This is difficult. 00:43:35
For. 00:43:37
And. 00:43:38
You know, actions have consequences, and in this case it's. 00:43:40
Actions that took place in Indianapolis are going to have consequences here. 00:43:45
I don't want to scare anybody either. 00:43:50
Like I said earlier, we don't need. 00:43:53
Employees, we don't need the public. 00:43:56
Running around like chickens with their heads cut off. The sky is falling. 00:43:59
We need time. 00:44:04
So that we can figure out what this looks like. 00:44:05
We've been asked to come up with a new reality. 00:44:09
There are some tools in the tool chest that were given as part of that. 00:44:12
If the public is willing to to. 00:44:17
Accommodate some of that. 00:44:20
I'm I'm not a proponent of taxation here as a general rule, but. 00:44:23
If the majority of the public says that this is a great service and these other services are great services and they want us to 00:44:27
pass. 00:44:31
An income tax to provide for that as allowed by SB1. 00:44:35
Then maybe that's a discussion we have as a community. 00:44:39
But we have to make. 00:44:42
The adjustments and be prepared. 00:44:45
And we'd want to do it in a way that is responsible throughout this year as opposed to waiting until we get to January 1 and then 00:44:48
deciding, oh, we don't have enough money. 00:44:53
We're we're, we're gonna, you know, just lop off whole sections of our of our. 00:44:57
Government. 00:45:02
So, you know, I really think it's an opportunity for us to. 00:45:04
Take a moment to have time, and I want the public to be part of that. I want to have a dialogue and a conversation. And as it was 00:45:09
said earlier, if you don't like what's what's happening here, understand that. 00:45:15
Please make sure you register that with the folks who registered that on us. 00:45:22
I agree, you know. 00:45:28
The only thing I'm going to close with is that. 00:45:30
I go a lot of what Adam said, you know, a lot of this was forced upon us where we're going to have to make some tough decisions. 00:45:34
And I have no problem making tough decisions if I need to, but. 00:45:40
If you have a. 00:45:47
Questions about how some of this is kind of going down? I think maybe you need to reach out to your. 00:45:48
State elected offices that. 00:45:52
Voted in favor of this without really. 00:45:54
Much input from the local level so. 00:45:56
With that being said, I'll take a motion to adjourn. 00:46:00
So move. 00:46:03
Second, all right. 00:46:04
Have a good day. 00:46:06
Yeah, it's a fun meeting. 00:46:13
Yeah. 00:46:15
It's gonna be a bunch of fun. 00:46:18
Yeah, yeah. We're just getting started. Four months, yeah. 00:46:19
Oh yeah. 00:46:23
So everyone's going to be running the financial analysis. 00:46:26
All the fiscal analysis that's going to be done. 00:46:30
Well, I can tell you I've already seen the primary analysis out of after it came out of ways of me and it's cigarettes, yeah. 00:46:32