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	Everybody, it's 4:30. I'm gonna go ahead and call to order this Floyd County Solid Waste Management District Board of Directors.	00:00:00
	If you would please rise and join me for the Pledge of Allegiance.	00:00:06
	I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.	00:00:09
	And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.	00:00:14
	Thank you everyone for being here today. Looks like.	00:00:25
	Everybody's in attendance, minus Mayor Gahan.	00:00:29
	All right, look for approval of the February 18 minutes, please.	00:00:33
	Motion to approve.	00:00:38
	Got a motion by.	00:00:40
	Al, second by Frank.	00:00:42
	Any discussion?	00:00:44
	All right, all in favor, signify by saying aye, aye.	00:00:46
	Any opposed?	00:00:49
	Cares.	00:00:50
	Approval of the marked provisional claims.	00:00:53
	And just.	00:00:57
	Someone second.	00:01:00
	We got a motion by Dale and a second by item. Any further discussion?	00:01:03
	OK, seeing none, all in favor signify by saying aye.	00:01:09
	Aye, any opposed?	00:01:12
	That carries.	00:01:14
	Approval of the April claims.	00:01:16
	Have a motion by Dale.	00:01:21
	Second by Brandon.	00:01:27
	Any further discussion?	00:01:29
	All right, all in favor, signify by saying aye.	00:01:31
	Any post?	00:01:34
	And that cares.	00:01:35
	All right.	00:01:38
	Solid waste hiring moratorium.	00:01:39
	Oh, I'm sorry, you're right.	00:01:43
	Approval of Resolution 2025-303 with the amended Exhibit A, which is our vendors.	00:01:46
	Is that correct?	00:01:53
	Yes.	00:01:55
	And we're just adding.	00:01:56
	American paint recyclers like.	00:01:58
	Lighting resources.	00:02:00
	The UPS Store.	00:02:02
	So moved.	00:02:05
	Got a motion by them. Can I get a second?	00:02:08
	Second Second by Dale.	00:02:09
	All right, any further discussion?	00:02:12
	All in favor signify by saying aye.	00:02:13
	Aye, any opposed?	00:02:16
	That carries.	00:02:17
	Solid waste hiring moratorium.	00:02:20
	Christy.	00:02:23
	Yeah, I have a resolution prepared. It would be resolution 2025-O four.	00:02:24
	For a hiring freeze.	00:02:30
	Happy to read through that so I would like me to.	00:02:32
	But directing that you all make that.	00:02:35
	Decision in this resolution to place a hiring freeze on the Solid Waste Management District.	00:02:39
	Passed that recommendation of resolution on to Commissioners for further action in the briefing.	00:02:46
	Happy to answer any questions.	00:02:50
	See if I have any questions.	00:02:55
	No, I mean it's it's probably worth of a broader discussion of why this is taking place and I'm working with the lead off on that	00:02:57
	or I can't end it.	00:03:01
	Yeah, I, I, I.	00:03:05
	We can discuss it first. Discuss it.	00:03:09
	Either or. OK. Yeah, yeah.	00:03:12
	All right. No, I think you're right. I think I think there is.	00:03:14
	A little bit discussion that needs to happen here, a little bit about.	00:03:17
	Why? This is the way it is as it stands right now.	00:03:20
	You know, for.	00:03:23
	Quite a while now, I think we've all been.	00:03:25
	Wondering where we're going to fall?	00:03:29
	If Senate Bill 1.	00:03:32
	Was to be passed.	00:03:33
	And what that would?	00:03:35
	Look like for our communities.	00:03:36
	Last night the the bill did pass.	00:03:40
	Through the Senate.	00:03:43
	And was given to the governor and is my understanding that has now been signed by the governor into law.	00:03:44
	So.	00:03:49
	I can tell you the the fiscal impacts.	00:03:50
	That I've seen that's been distributed to me and I'm sure.	00:03:53
	Some other members.	00:03:57
	I've probably seen in that too.	00:03:58
	You know.	00:04:00
	I think a lot of communities, not just here in Floyd County but throughout the state of Indiana are going to have to take a look.	00:04:02
	At the services.	00:04:08
	That they provide.	00:04:09
	And.	00:04:11
	Ask ourselves.	00:04:12
	You know is.	00:04:13
	Are we going to have to?	00:04:16
	To start.	00:04:17
	Taking a broader look at those that are statutorily required or.	00:04:18
	What's going to be leftover for?	00:04:24
	Kind of Anything else?	00:04:26
	And.	00:04:28
	I think our our thoughts was as far as.	00:04:30
	Commissioners.	00:04:33
	You know.	00:04:35
	We don't know what our budget's going to.	00:04:36
	Really look like until a certain point, so.	00:04:38
	I know that.	00:04:41
	The commissioners have kind of felt that.	00:04:43
	At least as far as I'm concerned. I don't want to speak for Alan Frank, but.	00:04:46
	I hate the thought of promising a job to somebody that may not be there.	00:04:52
	Whether it be part-time or full.	00:04:55
	You know, that's a lot of work for.	00:04:57
	Our human resources people.	00:04:59
	And umm, uh.	00:05:01
	I don't like making promises that I can't keep so.	00:05:03
	That's just my thoughts. I like to open it up to everybody else and.	00:05:06
	Get everyone else's thoughts.	00:05:09
	Moving forward, yeah, I mean on my end, you know, I.	00:05:11
	You kind of hope to the last minute something like that's not going to pass, but it did fast.	00:05:14
	There's been hallway conversations. This is this is probably 1 of many discussions we're going to have to have with every	00:05:19
	department within the county.	00:05:23
	Not only with regards to.	00:05:28
	Hiring freezes, but.	00:05:29
	Perhaps even.	00:05:30
	Cutbacks, I mean.	00:05:32
	The projected impact on.	00:05:34
	Annual budgets for 26/27/28 are very substantial.	00:05:38
	Conversations leading up to last night's vote.	00:05:43
	With state representatives and senators basically said, well, you're going to have the option to.	00:05:46
	Initiate or enact a local income tax.	00:05:53
	So we can debate it all. We want the wisdom of that, but.	00:05:57
	Happen and so the reality is you're going to have less money. So you're either going to have.	00:06:00
	Have to.	00:06:05
	Reduce services somewhere along the way where you're going to have to.	00:06:07
	Raise revenue.	00:06:11
	And there's just no other way around that We're not going to be able to control.	00:06:13
	Continue with what? The status quo so.	00:06:15
	This is.	00:06:18
	In no way isolated.	00:06:18
	Look at.	00:06:21
	Recycling.	00:06:22
	You guys do a great job. You have done a great job with the budgets all along.	00:06:24
	There's less money.	00:06:27
	Decisions are going to have to be made so.	00:06:29
	I agree this is.	00:06:32
	Logical first step is not to bring somebody new on board.	00:06:34
	With the promise of a job that may not be there for fiscal 2026.	00:06:38
	So I agree.	00:06:43
	Targeted this.	00:06:50
	This was passed last night just after midnight, so we're not even going to know the reality of the impacts until it's probably	00:06:52
	been initiated.	00:06:56
	And.	00:07:00
	DLGF looks at with regards to this solid waste hiring freeze.	00:07:03
	I mean it would it would be in place.	00:07:06
	Effective immediately.	00:07:09
	Yeah, OK. So.	00:07:12
	At our polling would work with.	00:07:14
	Employees that we have.	00:07:15
	You know we have.	00:07:17
	14 employees right now.	00:07:19
	So we're we're day.	00:07:21
	If someone calls in sick.	00:07:23
	And if we don't have someone to fill that spot?	00:07:27
	Yeah, we're at Italian.	00:07:29
	Risk of shutting down that day.	00:07:30
	I mean, fortunately.	00:07:33
	I've been feeling well.	00:07:34
	Lot for sick people.	00:07:35
	You know, for people that.	00:07:38
	We had some nutrition people.	00:07:39
	Leaving SO.	00:07:42
	Right now we're running.	00:07:45
	Nip and tuck day-to-day.	00:07:48
	I just need a date.	00:07:57
	When is this going to happen?	00:07:59
	We can't like, just say.	00:08:03
	If you expect us to run the next six months.	00:08:05
	Without any hiccups.	00:08:08
	And if I have two people leave?	00:08:10
	And I can't run.	00:08:14
	I think of a moratorium goes to.	00:08:16
	Place and.	00:08:18
	You are maxed out with regards to staffing then.	00:08:20
	I think it's very reasonable expectation that.	00:08:23
	Service hours would have to be cut back.	00:08:25
	To reflect on that.	00:08:28
	I mean, it's not going to be impacting you and your career. It's going to be impacting.	00:08:29
	The citizens of Floyd County as well, but.	00:08:33
	The reality is we're not going to be able to run.	00:08:35
	Like we have been running.	00:08:37
	And so.	00:08:40
	It certainly would be.	00:08:42
	My opinion, I'm one of many on the board here, but.	00:08:44
	If you came to us and said, hey, this is what I can do with the crew that I have available.	00:08:46
	I think it's incumbent upon us to look at that.	00:08:51
	In light of that reality, and whether that means your.	00:08:54
	It's going to be shut down the half day here that you weren't before then.	00:08:57
	That's that's, that's those are the.	00:09:01
	The predictable.	00:09:03
	And unforeseen consequences of this type of bill that was passed last night.	00:09:08
	And this is going to have ripple effects through every.	00:09:12
	Every department within the county and the city.	00:09:16
	I don't. I don't think so.	00:09:32
	And I say that because.	00:09:35
	You know, uh.	00:09:37
	Depending on.	00:09:38
	What this board determines.	00:09:39
	You know, and the commissioners.	00:09:41
	You know.	00:09:43
	We have some areas that have prepaid for service.	00:09:47
	If we have to use.	00:09:50
	Money that we budgeted to repay them back because we can't meet our obligation, I mean.	00:09:51
	That's just what's going to.	00:09:57
	Possibly have to be done.	00:09:58
	I'd still like to hear from.	00:10:00
	Adam and Brandon as far as.	00:10:01
	These impacts for you guys, what you're all thinking on this as well?	00:10:04
	I mean I.	00:10:09
	I'm on board with it. If you got to reduce hours, I think that's a smart idea just to.	00:10:12
	Keep afloat.	00:10:17
	Well, I mean doing that.	00:10:18
	Producing services.	00:10:20
	We've got 30.	00:10:21
	37.	00:10:22
	Different customers that we are obtaining.	00:10:24
	Right now for the year.	00:10:27
	To pick up.	00:10:28
	Right, so.	00:10:30
	You're saying that we pay them back?	00:10:31
	And stop their services.	00:10:34
	Well, what I would recommend.	00:10:36
	This is due to moratorium saying do not hire anybody because we don't know what we're doing.	00:10:39
	Because we don't have the financial impact yet.	00:10:45
	So I agree.	00:10:48
	Without that I think.	00:10:49
	If I was you, I would just go back and.	00:10:52
	Look at your what you have to do and say this is what I have to.	00:10:55
	To do and this is what what people I have available.	00:10:59
	And redo.	00:11:02
	What you're doing for that?	00:11:05
	You're going to have to change your schedule and your obligations.	00:11:08
	To the people that you have on hand.	00:11:11
	And that could be a fluid situation where?	00:11:14
	Two weeks from now, you don't have that many people you may have to.	00:11:17
	Do it again or come to us and say, OK, this is what's happened again and hopefully.	00:11:20
	It won't be too long before we have an answer.	00:11:26
	What we're going to do, but you will be.	00:11:29
	First person to know.	00:11:32
	I mean, we're not holding anything back. We just don't know. But we.	00:11:34
	I agree with Jason, in fact, that that would be the worst thing to do to hire somebody.	00:11:38
	And then 90 days or 80 days, 180 days from now, it says sorry.	00:11:43
	When maybe they had a job offer somewhere else that they passed out.	00:11:48
	So we just want to avoid that.	00:11:53
	But at this point you just got to go back and say OK.	00:11:55
	This is what I have available. These are the resources I have available. This is Money.	00:11:59
	And I'm going to change it. It might be instead of four hours a day, might be two hours.	00:12:04
	I don't. I don't know your job.	00:12:10
	So so let me.	00:12:12
	Dave, let me interject similar.	00:12:14
	Here a couple of questions for you.	00:12:17
	Do you have right now any positions that you were wanting or otherwise had out?	00:12:21
	For hiring.	00:12:27
	No, not unless someone leaves.	00:12:29
	Not you are not planning on.	00:12:32
	That know someone who's OK that's that's good.	00:12:35
	Second question.	00:12:38
	Are you able to?	00:12:40
	Prioritize.	00:12:42
	I think of this like light switches.	00:12:45
	If we don't have enough.	00:12:47
	Power coming in.	00:12:49
	Just to generate all the lights in the room.	00:12:51
	We're going to start to turn off lights.	00:12:54
	We're going to turn off the back of the room first because we're up here at the front of the room. We need to see.	00:12:56
	And we're eventually going to get to the very front.	00:13:01
	Maybe turn off our monitors and then we're going to turn off all the lights.	00:13:05
	Our goal is not to turn off all the lights and shut.	00:13:10
	The solid waste operation down.	00:13:12
	I will acknowledge that I think there is a discussion at some point.	00:13:15
	About whether or not.	00:13:19
	Once we've shut so much.	00:13:20
	Off whether it's advantageous for us to to continue with the solid waste, I agree.	00:13:22
	And that's not out of a desire that I want to terminate the program.	00:13:29
	That's a reflection that you do need certain monies to be able to do.	00:13:34
	A basic level.	00:13:41
	Service.	00:13:43
	To the customer base. To the citizens above the county.	00:13:44
	And if we don't have that?	00:13:48
	Then, as much as I hate to say it, that was the priority set in Indianapolis, so.	00:13:50
	That's the priority set in Indianapolis.	00:13:56
	I think you've nailed it on the head there is this. This has been.	00:13:58
	Taken out of our hands at the local level.	00:14:02
	And.	00:14:04
	I will, I will say.	00:14:07
	I think Christy I I don't have a copy of the text in front of me, but I'm assuming.	00:14:10
	You can pass it down if you've got it real quick, but I'm assuming the text is only.	00:14:15
	Hiring moratorium for this point.	00:14:21
	Forward until we would.	00:14:24
	Yes, it is hiring replacement of positions or new positions.	00:14:27
	Until you all decide to terminate.	00:14:31
	If there were some sort of emergency situation, special circumstance, the director could come to the Flade County Commissioners	00:14:34
	to.	00:14:37
	Ask for an exception to be granted.	00:14:41
	That would be a case by case basis for the Commissioners to consider. Yeah, we can reverse that at any time, yeah.	00:14:44
	So. So yeah.	00:14:49
	I think, I think what we are acknowledging here.	00:14:53
	Dave, is is that?	00:14:56
	We don't know.	00:14:58
	Without seeing the fiscal impact.	00:15:00
	Without getting into the budgetary process, which is going to start in earnest.	00:15:02
	Here in the next few few months.	00:15:07
	We don't know where we're going to be.	00:15:10
	With any of our our funding sources, I don't want to put you guys in a.	00:15:14
	In a bad place.	00:15:19
	I think there's some things I want you to prioritize.	00:15:23
	If there's an element of safety involved.	00:15:26
	Obviously that needs to be brought to our attention and we need to recognize that.	00:15:29
	If it's a total element of function involved, you know somebody's left.	00:15:35
	And without that person, we can't run the route because we have to have someone who's got a CDL or something like that.	00:15:40
	That that needs to be brought to our attention.	00:15:47
	But I think.	00:15:50
	Unfortunately.	00:15:52
	What I'd like to see you do is.	00:15:54
	Work on a.	00:15:57
	Plan for.	00:15:59
	What? Uh.	00:16:02
	We could.	00:16:03
	Essentially.	00:16:04
	Idle back.	00:16:06
	And some of that may be.	00:16:07
	Be informed with the contracts too. I think we need to take a look at all the terms of the contracts right now.	00:16:09
	To see what.	00:16:15
	The exit clause is.	00:16:17
	And what the end date are?	00:16:19
	Not because I don't want to renew them.	00:16:21
	I do want to redo them.	00:16:24
	But I also.	00:16:26
	Want us to be aware?	00:16:28
	So that when we get to a point where we would enter in a renewal.	00:16:29
	We're taking that into account with what we actually have and the ability to provide it.	00:16:35
	Now there could be some accommodations made with.	00:16:39
	The people were providing services to.	00:16:42
	I don't know that this is the case, but maybe somebody wants to cover the whole thing. I had a conversation with.	00:16:46
	With somebody recently about a service and they said what if we paid for the whole route?	00:16:51
	Well, I guess if you want to pay for it. In this case it was a tarp grout.	00:16:57
	If a business wants to pay for a tarcrout.	00:17:00
	I mean, I think that.	00:17:04
	Heart should fund that.	00:17:06
	So maybe in our case, there's somebody that would pay for.	00:17:09
	All those expenses related to.	00:17:12
	You know.	00:17:15
	A service.	00:17:16
	But I think we need to get a handle on where all these are and kind of come up with a triage plan.	00:17:19
	Because what this is going to be?	00:17:26
	You know, we've all taken up a bullet, if you will.	00:17:28
	And we're going to have to triage how we stem that bleeding.	00:17:31
	Not knowing at this point even how much blood we're losing.	00:17:35
	And you know.	00:17:40
	Anyone who's been in the battlefield knows that sometimes you're able to say that.	00:17:42
	Man, sometimes you're able to save the whole body, Sometimes you gotta.	00:17:46
	Take that into account.	00:17:50
	So.	00:17:51
	I guess what I'm saying is.	00:17:53
	I'll be supportive of a moratorium right now from the standpoint of.	00:17:57
	It gives us an opportunity to get more information.	00:18:02
	But I think that this isn't just a one off.	00:18:05
	We're going to put everyone on the moratorium. I think the other piece is we need to work with you.	00:18:09
	To plan and game this out.	00:18:14
	So that we know.	00:18:16
	At different levels.	00:18:18
	This is what we're able to do if we only have this much money. This is what we're able to do with a little bit more.	00:18:19
	A little bit less.	00:18:25
	So that we're able to figure out what that looks like.	00:18:27
	And then from you, I think we have to know.	00:18:30
	Where are the critical break points?	00:18:33
	We can exhaust the staff.	00:18:35
	Because.	00:18:37
	We put in a hiring moratorium.	00:18:39
	And I think as a board we need to be realistic that all options are on the table.	00:18:46
	We're going to have to come up with some decision for 2026 at some point, probably no later than.	00:18:50
	July or August?	00:18:56
	This year so that.	00:18:57
	Worst case scenario for winding down.	00:18:58
	We need to do that in a responsible way.	00:19:00
	If it looks like there's no money there for 2026, we need to.	00:19:04
	Populist for that and.	00:19:08
	If there's.	00:19:10
	Middle ground, whether it's scaled back services that we provide or that we contract with a third party for.	00:19:11
	I mean as well those those situations where I think.	00:19:18
	All options are on debt.	00:19:21
	So I don't want to give anybody.	00:19:22
	False hope, but I don't also.	00:19:24
	Create a crisis where there.	00:19:26
	Isn't one existing on this day?	00:19:27
	Good lead in.	00:19:32
	I spoke with Jason yesterday so.	00:19:34
	You have contract, we have. You have contracts.	00:19:36
	People picked up their.	00:19:39
	For example.	00:19:41
	I see a one of your.	00:19:42
	I've been sitting at Ace Hardware.	00:19:43
	Do they pay for that?	00:19:46
	They pay. They pay a service.	00:19:48
	Per year so that that particular.	00:19:50
	It custom and the county does not subsidized anything.	00:19:53
	Anyway.	00:19:56
	Well, we.	00:19:57
	Take their cardboard and we bring it back and we bail it.	00:19:59
	So that.	00:20:03
	That that location is so close to us.	00:20:04
	We're able to bring it back.	00:20:06
	Bailey return that container back the same day.	00:20:08
	Most times.	00:20:12
	And for them to start full.	00:20:13
	Good clean carpet.	00:20:15
	Well, I guess my question is.	00:20:17
	You get money for the cardboard then, right?	00:20:19
	Yes, Yeah. Well, my question is, is that like Home Depot?	00:20:21
	DC Lumber.	00:20:26
	They have their own bailing machines.	00:20:27
	You'll see cardboard sitting down.	00:20:29
	They bring a semi and they haul it off to their own recycling.	00:20:32
	So we have a contract.	00:20:35
	Single stream and.	00:20:38
	Their cardboard.	00:20:40
	So we pick up, they hit PC has set up a.	00:20:42
	Recycle.	00:20:46
	Station per se.	00:20:47
	Right, just for recycling.	00:20:48
	And then we also pick up a Bella cardboard there.	00:20:51
	Well, I agree with Frank.	00:20:56
	That we talk about.	00:20:59
	And we all have a vision of running government like a business. And we all know it's basically real, unrealistic, but.	00:21:00
	A lot? No, I had small business in.	00:21:08
	Every morning you determine this is what has to be done today.	00:21:10
	This is to my staff I've got available today.	00:21:13
	Other stuff just gets left alone if you had to put a padlock on them.	00:21:16
	Richardson says.	00:21:19
	Closed for the day.	00:21:20
	Maybe an inconvenience to the public?	00:21:22
	Temporary that we don't really want to put on but.	00:21:25
	I love, like Adam said, we we really don't have.	00:21:29
	Stop just this department. I'm where I said.	00:21:32
	County Council.	00:21:34
	At the last meeting I said well I suggest we start to have workshops like next week.	00:21:36
	Because this is gonna happen. Every department is in.	00:21:40
	Entire game of cutbacks.	00:21:42
	Seeing what's really priorities.	00:21:46
	Decisions for a lot of boards.	00:21:48
	And once this starts.	00:21:50
	Employees see that they participate.	00:21:52
	Job you're going to leave.	00:21:54
	And they're gonna leave.	00:21:56
	And then we're going to have.	00:21:58
	Even a bigger problem and I can tell you right now.	00:22:00
	I'm at my Max.	00:22:02
	OK, I'm doing.	00:22:05
	Three jobs.	00:22:05
	Happened in the last six months.	00:22:07
	You have to go back and say.	00:22:10
	I can't do this.	00:22:13
	I don't have the people, I don't have the concept.	00:22:15
	So you may have to say.	00:22:18
	I can only do AB and CI, can't do DD and that.	00:22:21
	And.	00:22:25
	Because we don't.	00:22:26
	Want anything happening or your employees?	00:22:28
	So you might just have to scale back.	00:22:31
	Until we can get a handle on this.	00:22:33
	And.	00:22:36
	Once we do, you'll be home.	00:22:39
	Say hey, this is what we found.	00:22:41
	This is the direction.	00:22:43
	Yes.	00:22:49
	And I'll, I'll say this, Dave, I.	00:22:51
	I commend you.	00:22:54
	For what you've been doing.	00:22:56
	You took over after Really. Scott left and Jump.	00:22:58
	With both feet you took over multiple roles.	00:23:03
	The staff is.	00:23:08
	Performed I think excellently, with a few people maybe having.	00:23:10
	You know been ill or or left as well.	00:23:14
	This is not a reflection of anything that any of our people or you have have done, certainly.	00:23:18
	I I think this is a.	00:23:24
	I think this is a forced upon us decision.	00:23:30
	That.	00:23:36
	Makes it very difficult for us to.	00:23:40
	Provide the services that the public has come to expect.	00:23:44
	And I think that.	00:23:49
	Like we said, what we're trying to do here right now.	00:23:51
	Is.	00:23:54
	Just to freeze things while we try and figure out what the new reality looks like.	00:23:55
	Six months from now, we may all come back to the table and say, you know what? We actually think this wasn't as bad as what we	00:24:03
	thought.	00:24:07
	We've got ideas for.	00:24:11
	How we're going to get through it.	00:24:13
	You're able to hire back some some more people or we're able to adjust.	00:24:15
	What we provide.	00:24:19
	I I guess 11 direct question I wouldn't say to you.	00:24:23
	Right now, knowing what you've been going through and what.	00:24:27
	You're doing to try and cover things.	00:24:30
	If you had to make a decision today.	00:24:33
	About what area?	00:24:38
	You would stop service on or you.	00:24:40
	You you get the biggest bang for your buck and cutting back on what would that be?	00:24:43
	Would that be?	00:24:48
	I don't, I don't know at this moment.	00:24:53
	If we stop.	00:24:56
	You know, we've had such a.	00:24:57
	Good relationship with the kids.	00:24:59
	Community, you know, and our citizenship.	00:25:03
	That's going to be the best.	00:25:05
	**** us like.	00:25:08
	Yeah.	00:25:10
	Services is trying.	00:25:11
	To explain to them why.	00:25:12
	Do you think that will all come back to you?	00:25:15
	So that's going to be the.	00:25:19
	As far as the hiring mortgage.	00:25:22
	Right now.	00:25:24
	I was nobody to leave.	00:25:25
	I mean, I'm solid right now.	00:25:26
	At the moment.	00:25:30
	People find out that this is going away and say my 2.	00:25:33
	I've got two guys that are going Tuesday, Thursday, say those guys decide they're going to go.	00:25:36
	Then then I'm hopes again.	00:25:41
	Our services.	00:25:44
	That we have contracts with.	00:25:47
	Well, and and I think the message to them.	00:25:52
	Is.	00:25:55
	Hey, we're trying.	00:25:56
	Take stock is something that's happened at Indianapolis.	00:25:59
	As soon as we know more information.	00:26:03
	We'll update you guys, but.	00:26:05
	Don't necessarily.	00:26:07
	Go running from the building.	00:26:09
	We just got to take a fast minute to figure out what.	00:26:12
	Where things are at?	00:26:15
	Well, I think.	00:26:17
	Will be incumbent upon use.	00:26:20
	I would want to know.	00:26:22
	Like Adam said at first.	00:26:24
	We're at a point where it affects.	00:26:26
	You feel like this isn't safe or?	00:26:29
	We're putting our employees or you know.	00:26:31
	Public, in harm's way.	00:26:34
	By what we're trying to accomplish here, I would like to know and then.	00:26:36
	I guarantee you we're going to get.	00:26:42
	A bunch of calls.	00:26:45
	This discussion that we're having now, because I know a lot of people are very passionate about it, but.	00:26:46
	For those of that that have concerns, I, I.	00:26:51
	Encourage you to call your state representative, your state senator and the governor.	00:26:54
	And those very people that are passionate about that are also the ones that been.	00:26:58
	Beat me up by taxes.	00:27:02
	I mean, I agree so.	00:27:05
	They all got their tax.	00:27:08
	I'm going to make a motion that we.	00:27:14
	Vote on this, OK?	00:27:16
	We have a I have a 5:00 upstairs with.	00:27:19
	Sheriff Bush and I'm gonna.	00:27:22
	OK, probably.	00:27:23
	Frank for that.	00:27:26
	Important maybe, I think that believe it was still a quorum if I could take.	00:27:28
	A commissioner and an attorney upstairs.	00:27:31
	I have a motion. I move.	00:27:34
	Approval.	00:27:38
	I got a motion by Al. Do I have a second?	00:27:39
	A second.	00:27:42
	Second by Brandon, is there any further discussion?	00:27:43
	OK, all in favor of approving the solid waste hiring moratorium, signify by saying aye.	00:27:47
	Aye, any opposed?	00:27:55
	That carries.	00:27:57
	You guys want to go ahead and.	00:27:59
	Thing.	00:28:00
	Yeah.	00:28:03
	All right, Dave, if you wanna.	00:28:17
	Continue on with your directors report, please. OK, All right.	00:28:18
	Marketing and excuse me, I went through some.	00:28:23
	Pollen.	00:28:30
	The albums so.	00:28:31
	No.	00:28:34
	Marketing Communications.	00:28:37
	So it looks like we've got 868 new users.	00:28:40
	I'm just going to kind of hit the high points.	00:28:44
	Operations and initiatives.	00:28:46
	March Dashboard.	00:28:49
	Try to count 4988.	00:28:51
	Looks like it's up 11% from last year.	00:28:53
	Leave.	00:28:58
	She had 13 more tons of.	00:29:00
	Product the year before.	00:29:03
	Sorry, Dave. Sorry about that, Dave.	00:29:07
	And due to the severe storms, we've had several outages.	00:29:10
	Everyone. I think I made you aware of them, Jason, each time that we were down.	00:29:15
	The last one being the wind and the.	00:29:19
	Power outages.	00:29:21
	Umm.	00:29:23
	Oh HW.	00:29:27
	So we brought on a couple of new suppliers this year.	00:29:30
	To try to clean up the.	00:29:35
	A lot of the oil based paint.	00:29:37
	Over the last couple years it seems like we had a mix of.	00:29:41
	Old basin water base that we were spending a lot of money.	00:29:45
	Getting rid of.	00:29:48
	By bringing on.	00:29:49
	Crystal clean.	00:29:51
	And American paint recyclers. We were able to go through all of our paint.	00:29:53
	Supply and separate it out and it's a huge.	00:29:57
	Cost difference in getting rid of all base versus just water base?	00:30:01
	Crystal Clean also is our supplier for picking up all.	00:30:09
	Didn't want to freeze.	00:30:13
	We closed the B&C auto parts.	00:30:16
	Drop off location upon Paoli Pike.	00:30:19
	We're in the process.	00:30:23
	Maybe of relocating That's 350 gallon tank.	00:30:25
	To grant line.	00:30:30
	Which would give us that 700 gallon capacity on oil.	00:30:32
	The more the more that we have, the less it costs to get rid of.	00:30:36
	So with that.	00:30:40
	Will probably be on hold.	00:30:42
	Right until.	00:30:44
	A education.	00:30:48
	Big thing is the.	00:30:51
	Pollinator Day is April 26th.	00:30:53
	I think 10 years running locally.	00:30:56
	More Riddle.	00:31:00
	Heading that up.	00:31:01
	Along with the two of our new or part time employees.	00:31:03
	Olivia Jenkins, who is a sustainability student from.	00:31:06
	IUS and Jarrett Miles, which is another younger.	00:31:11
	Employee that he.	00:31:15
	That we have, and that's at Purdue University on August the 26th.	00:31:16
	April 26, Yes, sorry.	00:31:26
	So like we were talking about, we brought on for part time operators.	00:31:30
	Jerry Miles, who's just an outstanding young man.	00:31:35
	Lots of opportunity and lots of just.	00:31:40
	Extremely hard worker illegal Jenkins is the.	00:31:44
	Sustainability student.	00:31:47
	She was also going to.	00:31:49
	Be part of exercising our tire grant.	00:31:52
	Which I guess will.	00:31:54
	You know, have to discuss that further.	00:31:56
	If we're going to continue on with that.	00:31:59
	Elisa.	00:32:02
	Garland is a part time. She works every other Saturday.	00:32:03
	Very hard worker.	00:32:07
	So again, right now we've got a.	00:32:08
	Fairly solid.	00:32:10
	Group of part time employees.	00:32:11
	Special projects Projects.	00:32:15
	The waist high grant.	00:32:18
	I guess that would be.	00:32:19
	TBD.	00:32:21
	But we were going to target June.	00:32:24
	And we want to target 10 tires per resident.	00:32:27
	So we wouldn't be overrun.	00:32:31
	With the.	00:32:33
	With tires.	00:32:34
	I know there's one customer, that one patron that had talked to Laura.	00:32:35
	That had like 300 tires.	00:32:39
	That they wanted to get rid of. That's not who we want to serve.	00:32:42
	So with the $10,000 we figured we can get rid of.	00:32:47
	Any worse to from 2 to 3000 tires because it's going to cost us anywhere?	00:32:50
	3 to $5 per.	00:32:55
	To process.	00:32:57
	And again, that is 100%.	00:32:59
	Reimbursement grant.	00:33:02
	So we just brought the money up and they reimburse us once it's done.	00:33:04
	Budgets and financial.	00:33:09
	Our total expenses were under budget.	00:33:13
	For the month of March by 27%.	00:33:16
	Office supplies was a little bit over.	00:33:19
	He had needed to replenish some of the stuff they could.	00:33:22
	Carry needed.	00:33:26
	And also some of the.	00:33:28
	Recycling boxes that we.	00:33:29
	Have been trying a process with Amazon.	00:33:31
	Getting rid of lamps.	00:33:36
	Utility Services was up.	00:33:38
	Of course we had some cold.	00:33:40
	You know, continue to have some cold spells.	00:33:42
	And we went to full electric heat.	00:33:45
	You know, so we don't have to go run and get propane three times a week.	00:33:48
	Even though uh.	00:33:52
	That bill is higher. On the flip side, we're not buying propane.	00:33:53
	We're not driving down to the.	00:33:57
	Propane place, you know.	00:33:59
	Spending time doing that, so it's kind of a wash.	00:34:01
	So I guess that is pretty much it.	00:34:04
	For the director.	00:34:08
	Anyone have any questions for?	00:34:10
	Say, Dave, the only thing that I would say is that in regard to the waste tire grant.	00:34:12
	Before we accept that, maybe I think it's worth.	00:34:19
	At least notifying.	00:34:23
	The board via.	00:34:25
	E-mail, would that be OK and just determining where we are?	00:34:26
	Yeah, I think that would be fine. It sounds like it's a reimbursement grant. So if we don't use it, we won't be reimbursed. So it	00:34:30
	sounds like it shouldn't be an issue, but I think it may be wise for us to take a look at that.	00:34:36
	Sounds good to me.	00:34:43
	I guess that the comment if.	00:34:45
	There's a grant for waste tires as there are other grants that we're not reaching out and getting.	00:34:47
	It seems like recycling is a big deal nationwide.	00:34:52
	Right now we're trying to just.	00:34:55
	The two grants that we have.	00:34:58
	Like the is the.	00:35:00
	Rd. Gram.	00:35:02
	Yeah, the.	00:35:17
	The RM.	00:35:23
	DP granted his neighborhood branch.	00:35:25
	It's that one ends in.	00:35:27
	At the end of May.	00:35:30
	I didn't set to do.	00:35:30
	Site visit on the 20.	00:35:32
	1st.	00:35:33
	So.	00:35:35
	We have to pass that visit.	00:35:37
	How old are the Japanese published?	00:35:41
	I guess my point is that are we using?	00:35:44
	Are we seeking out all the grants? We can find those.	00:35:46
	Like for example, the health department gets a lot of grants. Probation is totally fine.	00:35:49
	My grants.	00:35:54
	To go out and seek.	00:35:58
	Herman was doing. She was with me.	00:36:01
	Right, right. So she's, she's gone.	00:36:04
	Did not place her.	00:36:06
	So right now.	00:36:07
	We don't have.	00:36:09
	An hour or two.	00:36:11
	It takes a lot of time.	00:36:12
	Drill through these grants to get done.	00:36:14
	Can I make a suggestion on the grants?	00:36:17
	So the the city and the county are connected to River Hills.	00:36:21
	Which, among other things, does do grant writing.	00:36:27
	Given what Dave has just said and taking into account.	00:36:31
	That there may be some services from them.	00:36:35
	That they could assist with.	00:36:39
	There may be.	00:36:42
	Depending on the particulars and administration of the grant, there may be some fees that would be incurred at some point, but.	00:36:45
	It seems to me like.	00:36:53
	It might be good to get Dave with Corey Cochran.	00:36:54
	To.	00:36:57
	Try to supplement.	00:36:59
	With existing services that we have options.	00:37:01
	If that's OK, I will see Corey on Thursday at the.	00:37:06
	River Hills meeting.	00:37:10
	And I could.	00:37:11
	Facilitate.	00:37:13
	Putting the two of them together.	00:37:14
	And maybe that's the way we we look at seeing if there's any opportunity to make that synergy work.	00:37:16
	To both help out on the staffing side and help.	00:37:22
	Find some.	00:37:25
	Additional dollars, if that.	00:37:26
	I'd supplement the budget.	00:37:29
	My only recognition would be that.	00:37:30
	Any grant that you consider come back to you all to, of course. Yep, Yep.	00:37:32
	Usually the way they operate is they.	00:37:39
	Having their contract or percentage that they would take out of the grant, that would be something that Corey would be able to	00:37:43
	save funds.	00:37:47
	Before we proceed forward with any agreements.	00:37:51
	Exactly. Yeah, I think that's worthy of doing so if you didn't get.	00:37:53
	Make that happen on Thursday.	00:37:56
	Just go kind of go from there.	00:37:58
	Follow Christie's advice so.	00:38:00
	Anybody any more questions for Dave?	00:38:02
	Thanks, Dave.	00:38:06
	Is there any public comment?	00:38:07
	Yes, Sir.	00:38:09
	I found it how difficult it is to write something on this.	00:38:13
	Tiny little object.	00:38:17
	I'm not sure something I think.	00:38:20
	Had a hinted at possible elimination.	00:38:22
	Of the service.	00:38:24
	Is this not required by the state?	00:38:26
	I thought the state created.	00:38:28
	Of this so I'll.	00:38:31
	Push that to.	00:38:34
	Our attorney because it's my understanding that that is no longer.	00:38:35
	I do not believe at this moment that that is an requirement of state statute.	00:38:40
	OK.	00:38:44
	Possible use of volunteers.	00:38:48
	I every once in a while volunteer a little bit.	00:38:51
	There might be some other people who believe in this enough that they would volunteer.	00:38:57
	Is there going to be an issue with?	00:39:01
	Liability.	00:39:03
	Things like that.	00:39:06
	I would. I think that probably best sits in the hands of.	00:39:07
	And you know if he has any thoughts or concerns kind of going forward with that, I know that it seems like you all use volunteers	00:39:11
	quite a bit for.	00:39:15
	Things.	00:39:19
	There is a little bit of liability when it comes to.	00:39:20
	I know. Yeah, I said we would have a liability waiver and.	00:39:24
	Yeah.	00:39:29
	Sure.	00:39:31
	Yeah.	00:39:39
	I think I think that's the problem with anybody that leans on volunteers, at least at this point, no matter what.	00:39:40
	Realm you're in is that.	00:39:46
	Everybody's just fighting to kind of make ends meet.	00:39:48
	Family's life is just.	00:39:51
	Very busy where?	00:39:54
	People just don't have the time that they once did and then.	00:39:55
	Of course you know.	00:39:58
	A lot of people who.	00:40:01
	Live here in Floyd County, don't work here in Floyd County, so there's travel times.	00:40:03
	You know, there's a multitude of different things and.	00:40:07
	Reasons that volunteers just haven't seemed to workout very well. But.	00:40:09
	That's one of the things I hear on the fire service side too, is.	00:40:14
	You know, people get upset because you know.	00:40:17
	Firefighters getting paid X Well, you know, how many times did you drive by that volunteer Firehouse when I said firefighters	00:40:19
	needed?	00:40:22
	He just kept driving.	00:40:25
	I well, I.	00:40:30
	We had to cut any part of it but.	00:40:33
	I think the collections of the subdivision would be.	00:40:36
	Logical first thing to cut.	00:40:40
	Never mind.	00:40:50
	Yeah, well.	00:40:54
	Possibility of.	00:40:54
	Funding from public.	00:40:55
	Businesses.	00:40:58
	You're talking about a possible grant, right?	00:40:59
	Yeah. I, I, I think when I was envisioning was a way to look at what's out there and, you know, be able to continue to go after	00:41:02
	those grant funds for.	00:41:07
	Programmatic pieces or what have you, but.	00:41:13
	You know, I would not be opposed again, kind of.	00:41:16
	Marking back on earlier comments.	00:41:20
	The meeting that I shared was a tart meeting where they were talking about potential service cuts.	00:41:23
	And they made reference that a particular big.	00:41:28
	Corporate. Uh.	00:41:32
	Business had paid for.	00:41:33
	A route.	00:41:36
	To be run in southern Indiana.	00:41:37
	If a business is so.	00:41:42
	Dedicated to.	00:41:44
	And feels that the services as such that they get a direct benefit and they want to pay for.	00:41:46
	For that.	00:41:53
	I think we can come up with a cost.	00:41:54
	And I would have no problem.	00:41:57
	Entering that.	00:41:59
	Into the dynamic of the services that we would provide.	00:42:01
	A great example may be you know hey if the cardboard services is such a good service.	00:42:07
	Here's what it costs us to.	00:42:15
	Fully do that.	00:42:17
	Without any subsidization at all.	00:42:18
	And that may be different for different, you know.	00:42:22
	For example, if I'm going out to the New Albany Industrial Park, that's not that far away from where the Baylor's at. If I got to	00:42:25
	run all the way out to Greenville, that's a 20 minute drive. That may be a different story about what that looks like.	00:42:32
	But I think you could have those discussions.	00:42:39
	To see.	00:42:42
	Is there a mathematical formula that works out for everyone that they would be willing to pay for that service?	00:42:43
	OK. Thank you, Sir.	00:42:51
	Any other public comment?	00:42:55
	All right. Seeing none, does anybody in the board have any comments?	00:42:58
	I mean, I'll just echo this again. I, I think everybody on a local level.	00:43:03
	You know, for, for, for starters, none of us, I think.	00:43:10
	Are against.	00:43:15
	Property tax relief.	00:43:18
	I don't think that any of us are against the services that are being provided, not just by solid waste but by a multitude of our.	00:43:20
	Public offices, our police or fire, all of those things.	00:43:29
	This is difficult.	00:43:35
	For.	00:43:37
	And.	00:43:38
	You know, actions have consequences, and in this case it's.	00:43:40
	Actions that took place in Indianapolis are going to have consequences here.	00:43:45
	I don't want to scare anybody either.	00:43:50
	Like I said earlier, we don't need.	00:43:53
	Employees, we don't need the public.	00:43:56
	Running around like chickens with their heads cut off. The sky is falling.	00:43:59
	We need time.	00:44:04
	So that we can figure out what this looks like.	00:44:05
	We've been asked to come up with a new reality.	00:44:09
	There are some tools in the tool chest that were given as part of that.	00:44:12
	If the public is willing to to.	00:44:17
	Accommodate some of that.	00:44:20
	I'm I'm not a proponent of taxation here as a general rule, but.	00:44:23
	If the majority of the public says that this is a great service and these other services are great services and they want us to	00:44:27
	pass.	00:44:31
	An income tax to provide for that as allowed by SB1.	00:44:35
	Then maybe that's a discussion we have as a community.	00:44:39
	But we have to make.	00:44:42
	The adjustments and be prepared.	00:44:45
	And we'd want to do it in a way that is responsible throughout this year as opposed to waiting until we get to January 1 and then	00:44:48
	deciding, oh, we don't have enough money.	00:44:53
	We're we're, we're gonna, you know, just lop off whole sections of our of our.	00:44:57
	Government.	00:45:02
	So, you know, I really think it's an opportunity for us to.	00:45:04
	Take a moment to have time, and I want the public to be part of that. I want to have a dialogue and a conversation. And as it was	00:45:09
	said earlier, if you don't like what's what's happening here, understand that.	00:45:15
	Please make sure you register that with the folks who registered that on us.	00:45:22
	I agree, you know.	00:45:28
	The only thing I'm going to close with is that.	00:45:30
	I go a lot of what Adam said, you know, a lot of this was forced upon us where we're going to have to make some tough decisions.	00:45:34
	And I have no problem making tough decisions if I need to, but.	00:45:40
	If you have a.	00:45:47
	Questions about how some of this is kind of going down? I think maybe you need to reach out to your.	00:45:48
	State elected offices that.	00:45:52
	Voted in favor of this without really.	00:45:54
	Much input from the local level so.	00:45:56
	With that being said, I'll take a motion to adjourn.	00:46:00
	So move.	00:46:03
	Second, all right.	00:46:04
	Have a good day.	00:46:06
	Yeah, it's a fun meeting.	00:46:13
	Yeah.	00:46:15
	It's gonna be a bunch of fun.	00:46:18
	Yeah, yeah. We're just getting started. Four months, yeah.	00:46:19
	Oh yeah.	00:46:23
	So everyone's going to be running the financial analysis.	00:46:26
	All the fiscal analysis that's going to be done.	00:46:30
	Well, I can tell you I've already seen the primary analysis out of after it came out of ways of me and it's cigarettes, yeah.	00:46:32

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Transcript
	Everybody, it's 4:30. I'm gonna go ahead and call to order this Floyd County Solid Waste Management District Board of Directors.	00:00:00
	If you would please rise and join me for the Pledge of Allegiance.	00:00:06
	I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.	00:00:09
	And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.	00:00:14
	Thank you everyone for being here today. Looks like.	00:00:25
	Everybody's in attendance, minus Mayor Gahan.	00:00:29
	All right, look for approval of the February 18 minutes, please.	00:00:33
	Motion to approve.	00:00:38
	Got a motion by.	00:00:40
	Al, second by Frank.	00:00:42
	Any discussion?	00:00:44
	All right, all in favor, signify by saying aye, aye.	00:00:46
	Any opposed?	00:00:49
	Cares.	00:00:50
	Approval of the marked provisional claims.	00:00:53
	And just.	00:00:57
	Someone second.	00:01:00
	We got a motion by Dale and a second by item. Any further discussion?	00:01:03
	OK, seeing none, all in favor signify by saying aye.	00:01:09
	Aye, any opposed?	00:01:12
	That carries.	00:01:14
	Approval of the April claims.	00:01:16
	Have a motion by Dale.	00:01:21
	Second by Brandon.	00:01:27
	Any further discussion?	00:01:29
	All right, all in favor, signify by saying aye.	00:01:31
	Any post?	00:01:34
	And that cares.	00:01:35
	All right.	00:01:38
	Solid waste hiring moratorium.	00:01:39
	Oh, I'm sorry, you're right.	00:01:43
	Approval of Resolution 2025-303 with the amended Exhibit A, which is our vendors.	00:01:46
	Is that correct?	00:01:53
	Yes.	00:01:55
	And we're just adding.	00:01:56
	American paint recyclers like.	00:01:58
	Lighting resources.	00:02:00
	The UPS Store.	00:02:02
	So moved.	00:02:05
	Got a motion by them. Can I get a second?	00:02:08
	Second Second by Dale.	00:02:09
	All right, any further discussion?	00:02:12
	All in favor signify by saying aye.	00:02:13
	Aye, any opposed?	00:02:16
	That carries.	00:02:17
	Solid waste hiring moratorium.	00:02:20
	Christy.	00:02:23
	Yeah, I have a resolution prepared. It would be resolution 2025-O four.	00:02:24
	For a hiring freeze.	00:02:30
	Happy to read through that so I would like me to.	00:02:32
	But directing that you all make that.	00:02:35
	Decision in this resolution to place a hiring freeze on the Solid Waste Management District.	00:02:39
	Passed that recommendation of resolution on to Commissioners for further action in the briefing.	00:02:46
	Happy to answer any questions.	00:02:50
	See if I have any questions.	00:02:55
	No, I mean it's it's probably worth of a broader discussion of why this is taking place and I'm working with the lead off on that	00:02:57
	or I can't end it.	00:03:01
	Yeah, I, I, I.	00:03:05
	We can discuss it first. Discuss it.	00:03:09
	Either or. OK. Yeah, yeah.	00:03:12
	All right. No, I think you're right. I think I think there is.	00:03:14
	A little bit discussion that needs to happen here, a little bit about.	00:03:17
	Why? This is the way it is as it stands right now.	00:03:20
	You know, for.	00:03:23
	Quite a while now, I think we've all been.	00:03:25
	Wondering where we're going to fall?	00:03:29
	If Senate Bill 1.	00:03:32
	Was to be passed.	00:03:33
	And what that would?	00:03:35
	Look like for our communities.	00:03:36
	Last night the the bill did pass.	00:03:40
	Through the Senate.	00:03:43
	And was given to the governor and is my understanding that has now been signed by the governor into law.	00:03:44
	So.	00:03:49
	I can tell you the the fiscal impacts.	00:03:50
	That I've seen that's been distributed to me and I'm sure.	00:03:53
	Some other members.	00:03:57
	I've probably seen in that too.	00:03:58
	You know.	00:04:00
	I think a lot of communities, not just here in Floyd County but throughout the state of Indiana are going to have to take a look.	00:04:02
	At the services.	00:04:08
	That they provide.	00:04:09
	And.	00:04:11
	Ask ourselves.	00:04:12
	You know is.	00:04:13
	Are we going to have to?	00:04:16
	To start.	00:04:17
	Taking a broader look at those that are statutorily required or.	00:04:18
	What's going to be leftover for?	00:04:24
	Kind of Anything else?	00:04:26
	And.	00:04:28
	I think our our thoughts was as far as.	00:04:30
	Commissioners.	00:04:33
	You know.	00:04:35
	We don't know what our budget's going to.	00:04:36
	Really look like until a certain point, so.	00:04:38
	I know that.	00:04:41
	The commissioners have kind of felt that.	00:04:43
	At least as far as I'm concerned. I don't want to speak for Alan Frank, but.	00:04:46
	I hate the thought of promising a job to somebody that may not be there.	00:04:52
	Whether it be part-time or full.	00:04:55
	You know, that's a lot of work for.	00:04:57
	Our human resources people.	00:04:59
	And umm, uh.	00:05:01
	I don't like making promises that I can't keep so.	00:05:03
	That's just my thoughts. I like to open it up to everybody else and.	00:05:06
	Get everyone else's thoughts.	00:05:09
	Moving forward, yeah, I mean on my end, you know, I.	00:05:11
	You kind of hope to the last minute something like that's not going to pass, but it did fast.	00:05:14
	There's been hallway conversations. This is this is probably 1 of many discussions we're going to have to have with every	00:05:19
	department within the county.	00:05:23
	Not only with regards to.	00:05:28
	Hiring freezes, but.	00:05:29
	Perhaps even.	00:05:30
	Cutbacks, I mean.	00:05:32
	The projected impact on.	00:05:34
	Annual budgets for 26/27/28 are very substantial.	00:05:38
	Conversations leading up to last night's vote.	00:05:43
	With state representatives and senators basically said, well, you're going to have the option to.	00:05:46
	Initiate or enact a local income tax.	00:05:53
	So we can debate it all. We want the wisdom of that, but.	00:05:57
	Happen and so the reality is you're going to have less money. So you're either going to have.	00:06:00
	Have to.	00:06:05
	Reduce services somewhere along the way where you're going to have to.	00:06:07
	Raise revenue.	00:06:11
	And there's just no other way around that We're not going to be able to control.	00:06:13
	Continue with what? The status quo so.	00:06:15
	This is.	00:06:18
	In no way isolated.	00:06:18
	Look at.	00:06:21
	Recycling.	00:06:22
	You guys do a great job. You have done a great job with the budgets all along.	00:06:24
	There's less money.	00:06:27
	Decisions are going to have to be made so.	00:06:29
	I agree this is.	00:06:32
	Logical first step is not to bring somebody new on board.	00:06:34
	With the promise of a job that may not be there for fiscal 2026.	00:06:38
	So I agree.	00:06:43
	Targeted this.	00:06:50
	This was passed last night just after midnight, so we're not even going to know the reality of the impacts until it's probably	00:06:52
	been initiated.	00:06:56
	And.	00:07:00
	DLGF looks at with regards to this solid waste hiring freeze.	00:07:03
	I mean it would it would be in place.	00:07:06
	Effective immediately.	00:07:09
	Yeah, OK. So.	00:07:12
	At our polling would work with.	00:07:14
	Employees that we have.	00:07:15
	You know we have.	00:07:17
	14 employees right now.	00:07:19
	So we're we're day.	00:07:21
	If someone calls in sick.	00:07:23
	And if we don't have someone to fill that spot?	00:07:27
	Yeah, we're at Italian.	00:07:29
	Risk of shutting down that day.	00:07:30
	I mean, fortunately.	00:07:33
	I've been feeling well.	00:07:34
	Lot for sick people.	00:07:35
	You know, for people that.	00:07:38
	We had some nutrition people.	00:07:39
	Leaving SO.	00:07:42
	Right now we're running.	00:07:45
	Nip and tuck day-to-day.	00:07:48
	I just need a date.	00:07:57
	When is this going to happen?	00:07:59
	We can't like, just say.	00:08:03
	If you expect us to run the next six months.	00:08:05
	Without any hiccups.	00:08:08
	And if I have two people leave?	00:08:10
	And I can't run.	00:08:14
	I think of a moratorium goes to.	00:08:16
	Place and.	00:08:18
	You are maxed out with regards to staffing then.	00:08:20
	I think it's very reasonable expectation that.	00:08:23
	Service hours would have to be cut back.	00:08:25
	To reflect on that.	00:08:28
	I mean, it's not going to be impacting you and your career. It's going to be impacting.	00:08:29
	The citizens of Floyd County as well, but.	00:08:33
	The reality is we're not going to be able to run.	00:08:35
	Like we have been running.	00:08:37
	And so.	00:08:40
	It certainly would be.	00:08:42
	My opinion, I'm one of many on the board here, but.	00:08:44
	If you came to us and said, hey, this is what I can do with the crew that I have available.	00:08:46
	I think it's incumbent upon us to look at that.	00:08:51
	In light of that reality, and whether that means your.	00:08:54
	It's going to be shut down the half day here that you weren't before then.	00:08:57
	That's that's, that's those are the.	00:09:01
	The predictable.	00:09:03
	And unforeseen consequences of this type of bill that was passed last night.	00:09:08
	And this is going to have ripple effects through every.	00:09:12
	Every department within the county and the city.	00:09:16
	I don't. I don't think so.	00:09:32
	And I say that because.	00:09:35
	You know, uh.	00:09:37
	Depending on.	00:09:38
	What this board determines.	00:09:39
	You know, and the commissioners.	00:09:41
	You know.	00:09:43
	We have some areas that have prepaid for service.	00:09:47
	If we have to use.	00:09:50
	Money that we budgeted to repay them back because we can't meet our obligation, I mean.	00:09:51
	That's just what's going to.	00:09:57
	Possibly have to be done.	00:09:58
	I'd still like to hear from.	00:10:00
	Adam and Brandon as far as.	00:10:01
	These impacts for you guys, what you're all thinking on this as well?	00:10:04
	I mean I.	00:10:09
	I'm on board with it. If you got to reduce hours, I think that's a smart idea just to.	00:10:12
	Keep afloat.	00:10:17
	Well, I mean doing that.	00:10:18
	Producing services.	00:10:20
	We've got 30.	00:10:21
	37.	00:10:22
	Different customers that we are obtaining.	00:10:24
	Right now for the year.	00:10:27
	To pick up.	00:10:28
	Right, so.	00:10:30
	You're saying that we pay them back?	00:10:31
	And stop their services.	00:10:34
	Well, what I would recommend.	00:10:36
	This is due to moratorium saying do not hire anybody because we don't know what we're doing.	00:10:39
	Because we don't have the financial impact yet.	00:10:45
	So I agree.	00:10:48
	Without that I think.	00:10:49
	If I was you, I would just go back and.	00:10:52
	Look at your what you have to do and say this is what I have to.	00:10:55
	To do and this is what what people I have available.	00:10:59
	And redo.	00:11:02
	What you're doing for that?	00:11:05
	You're going to have to change your schedule and your obligations.	00:11:08
	To the people that you have on hand.	00:11:11
	And that could be a fluid situation where?	00:11:14
	Two weeks from now, you don't have that many people you may have to.	00:11:17
	Do it again or come to us and say, OK, this is what's happened again and hopefully.	00:11:20
	It won't be too long before we have an answer.	00:11:26
	What we're going to do, but you will be.	00:11:29
	First person to know.	00:11:32
	I mean, we're not holding anything back. We just don't know. But we.	00:11:34
	I agree with Jason, in fact, that that would be the worst thing to do to hire somebody.	00:11:38
	And then 90 days or 80 days, 180 days from now, it says sorry.	00:11:43
	When maybe they had a job offer somewhere else that they passed out.	00:11:48
	So we just want to avoid that.	00:11:53
	But at this point you just got to go back and say OK.	00:11:55
	This is what I have available. These are the resources I have available. This is Money.	00:11:59
	And I'm going to change it. It might be instead of four hours a day, might be two hours.	00:12:04
	I don't. I don't know your job.	00:12:10
	So so let me.	00:12:12
	Dave, let me interject similar.	00:12:14
	Here a couple of questions for you.	00:12:17
	Do you have right now any positions that you were wanting or otherwise had out?	00:12:21
	For hiring.	00:12:27
	No, not unless someone leaves.	00:12:29
	Not you are not planning on.	00:12:32
	That know someone who's OK that's that's good.	00:12:35
	Second question.	00:12:38
	Are you able to?	00:12:40
	Prioritize.	00:12:42
	I think of this like light switches.	00:12:45
	If we don't have enough.	00:12:47
	Power coming in.	00:12:49
	Just to generate all the lights in the room.	00:12:51
	We're going to start to turn off lights.	00:12:54
	We're going to turn off the back of the room first because we're up here at the front of the room. We need to see.	00:12:56
	And we're eventually going to get to the very front.	00:13:01
	Maybe turn off our monitors and then we're going to turn off all the lights.	00:13:05
	Our goal is not to turn off all the lights and shut.	00:13:10
	The solid waste operation down.	00:13:12
	I will acknowledge that I think there is a discussion at some point.	00:13:15
	About whether or not.	00:13:19
	Once we've shut so much.	00:13:20
	Off whether it's advantageous for us to to continue with the solid waste, I agree.	00:13:22
	And that's not out of a desire that I want to terminate the program.	00:13:29
	That's a reflection that you do need certain monies to be able to do.	00:13:34
	A basic level.	00:13:41
	Service.	00:13:43
	To the customer base. To the citizens above the county.	00:13:44
	And if we don't have that?	00:13:48
	Then, as much as I hate to say it, that was the priority set in Indianapolis, so.	00:13:50
	That's the priority set in Indianapolis.	00:13:56
	I think you've nailed it on the head there is this. This has been.	00:13:58
	Taken out of our hands at the local level.	00:14:02
	And.	00:14:04
	I will, I will say.	00:14:07
	I think Christy I I don't have a copy of the text in front of me, but I'm assuming.	00:14:10
	You can pass it down if you've got it real quick, but I'm assuming the text is only.	00:14:15
	Hiring moratorium for this point.	00:14:21
	Forward until we would.	00:14:24
	Yes, it is hiring replacement of positions or new positions.	00:14:27
	Until you all decide to terminate.	00:14:31
	If there were some sort of emergency situation, special circumstance, the director could come to the Flade County Commissioners	00:14:34
	to.	00:14:37
	Ask for an exception to be granted.	00:14:41
	That would be a case by case basis for the Commissioners to consider. Yeah, we can reverse that at any time, yeah.	00:14:44
	So. So yeah.	00:14:49
	I think, I think what we are acknowledging here.	00:14:53
	Dave, is is that?	00:14:56
	We don't know.	00:14:58
	Without seeing the fiscal impact.	00:15:00
	Without getting into the budgetary process, which is going to start in earnest.	00:15:02
	Here in the next few few months.	00:15:07
	We don't know where we're going to be.	00:15:10
	With any of our our funding sources, I don't want to put you guys in a.	00:15:14
	In a bad place.	00:15:19
	I think there's some things I want you to prioritize.	00:15:23
	If there's an element of safety involved.	00:15:26
	Obviously that needs to be brought to our attention and we need to recognize that.	00:15:29
	If it's a total element of function involved, you know somebody's left.	00:15:35
	And without that person, we can't run the route because we have to have someone who's got a CDL or something like that.	00:15:40
	That that needs to be brought to our attention.	00:15:47
	But I think.	00:15:50
	Unfortunately.	00:15:52
	What I'd like to see you do is.	00:15:54
	Work on a.	00:15:57
	Plan for.	00:15:59
	What? Uh.	00:16:02
	We could.	00:16:03
	Essentially.	00:16:04
	Idle back.	00:16:06
	And some of that may be.	00:16:07
	Be informed with the contracts too. I think we need to take a look at all the terms of the contracts right now.	00:16:09
	To see what.	00:16:15
	The exit clause is.	00:16:17
	And what the end date are?	00:16:19
	Not because I don't want to renew them.	00:16:21
	I do want to redo them.	00:16:24
	But I also.	00:16:26
	Want us to be aware?	00:16:28
	So that when we get to a point where we would enter in a renewal.	00:16:29
	We're taking that into account with what we actually have and the ability to provide it.	00:16:35
	Now there could be some accommodations made with.	00:16:39
	The people were providing services to.	00:16:42
	I don't know that this is the case, but maybe somebody wants to cover the whole thing. I had a conversation with.	00:16:46
	With somebody recently about a service and they said what if we paid for the whole route?	00:16:51
	Well, I guess if you want to pay for it. In this case it was a tarp grout.	00:16:57
	If a business wants to pay for a tarcrout.	00:17:00
	I mean, I think that.	00:17:04
	Heart should fund that.	00:17:06
	So maybe in our case, there's somebody that would pay for.	00:17:09
	All those expenses related to.	00:17:12
	You know.	00:17:15
	A service.	00:17:16
	But I think we need to get a handle on where all these are and kind of come up with a triage plan.	00:17:19
	Because what this is going to be?	00:17:26
	You know, we've all taken up a bullet, if you will.	00:17:28
	And we're going to have to triage how we stem that bleeding.	00:17:31
	Not knowing at this point even how much blood we're losing.	00:17:35
	And you know.	00:17:40
	Anyone who's been in the battlefield knows that sometimes you're able to say that.	00:17:42
	Man, sometimes you're able to save the whole body, Sometimes you gotta.	00:17:46
	Take that into account.	00:17:50
	So.	00:17:51
	I guess what I'm saying is.	00:17:53
	I'll be supportive of a moratorium right now from the standpoint of.	00:17:57
	It gives us an opportunity to get more information.	00:18:02
	But I think that this isn't just a one off.	00:18:05
	We're going to put everyone on the moratorium. I think the other piece is we need to work with you.	00:18:09
	To plan and game this out.	00:18:14
	So that we know.	00:18:16
	At different levels.	00:18:18
	This is what we're able to do if we only have this much money. This is what we're able to do with a little bit more.	00:18:19
	A little bit less.	00:18:25
	So that we're able to figure out what that looks like.	00:18:27
	And then from you, I think we have to know.	00:18:30
	Where are the critical break points?	00:18:33
	We can exhaust the staff.	00:18:35
	Because.	00:18:37
	We put in a hiring moratorium.	00:18:39
	And I think as a board we need to be realistic that all options are on the table.	00:18:46
	We're going to have to come up with some decision for 2026 at some point, probably no later than.	00:18:50
	July or August?	00:18:56
	This year so that.	00:18:57
	Worst case scenario for winding down.	00:18:58
	We need to do that in a responsible way.	00:19:00
	If it looks like there's no money there for 2026, we need to.	00:19:04
	Populist for that and.	00:19:08
	If there's.	00:19:10
	Middle ground, whether it's scaled back services that we provide or that we contract with a third party for.	00:19:11
	I mean as well those those situations where I think.	00:19:18
	All options are on debt.	00:19:21
	So I don't want to give anybody.	00:19:22
	False hope, but I don't also.	00:19:24
	Create a crisis where there.	00:19:26
	Isn't one existing on this day?	00:19:27
	Good lead in.	00:19:32
	I spoke with Jason yesterday so.	00:19:34
	You have contract, we have. You have contracts.	00:19:36
	People picked up their.	00:19:39
	For example.	00:19:41
	I see a one of your.	00:19:42
	I've been sitting at Ace Hardware.	00:19:43
	Do they pay for that?	00:19:46
	They pay. They pay a service.	00:19:48
	Per year so that that particular.	00:19:50
	It custom and the county does not subsidized anything.	00:19:53
	Anyway.	00:19:56
	Well, we.	00:19:57
	Take their cardboard and we bring it back and we bail it.	00:19:59
	So that.	00:20:03
	That that location is so close to us.	00:20:04
	We're able to bring it back.	00:20:06
	Bailey return that container back the same day.	00:20:08
	Most times.	00:20:12
	And for them to start full.	00:20:13
	Good clean carpet.	00:20:15
	Well, I guess my question is.	00:20:17
	You get money for the cardboard then, right?	00:20:19
	Yes, Yeah. Well, my question is, is that like Home Depot?	00:20:21
	DC Lumber.	00:20:26
	They have their own bailing machines.	00:20:27
	You'll see cardboard sitting down.	00:20:29
	They bring a semi and they haul it off to their own recycling.	00:20:32
	So we have a contract.	00:20:35
	Single stream and.	00:20:38
	Their cardboard.	00:20:40
	So we pick up, they hit PC has set up a.	00:20:42
	Recycle.	00:20:46
	Station per se.	00:20:47
	Right, just for recycling.	00:20:48
	And then we also pick up a Bella cardboard there.	00:20:51
	Well, I agree with Frank.	00:20:56
	That we talk about.	00:20:59
	And we all have a vision of running government like a business. And we all know it's basically real, unrealistic, but.	00:21:00
	A lot? No, I had small business in.	00:21:08
	Every morning you determine this is what has to be done today.	00:21:10
	This is to my staff I've got available today.	00:21:13
	Other stuff just gets left alone if you had to put a padlock on them.	00:21:16
	Richardson says.	00:21:19
	Closed for the day.	00:21:20
	Maybe an inconvenience to the public?	00:21:22
	Temporary that we don't really want to put on but.	00:21:25
	I love, like Adam said, we we really don't have.	00:21:29
	Stop just this department. I'm where I said.	00:21:32
	County Council.	00:21:34
	At the last meeting I said well I suggest we start to have workshops like next week.	00:21:36
	Because this is gonna happen. Every department is in.	00:21:40
	Entire game of cutbacks.	00:21:42
	Seeing what's really priorities.	00:21:46
	Decisions for a lot of boards.	00:21:48
	And once this starts.	00:21:50
	Employees see that they participate.	00:21:52
	Job you're going to leave.	00:21:54
	And they're gonna leave.	00:21:56
	And then we're going to have.	00:21:58
	Even a bigger problem and I can tell you right now.	00:22:00
	I'm at my Max.	00:22:02
	OK, I'm doing.	00:22:05
	Three jobs.	00:22:05
	Happened in the last six months.	00:22:07
	You have to go back and say.	00:22:10
	I can't do this.	00:22:13
	I don't have the people, I don't have the concept.	00:22:15
	So you may have to say.	00:22:18
	I can only do AB and CI, can't do DD and that.	00:22:21
	And.	00:22:25
	Because we don't.	00:22:26
	Want anything happening or your employees?	00:22:28
	So you might just have to scale back.	00:22:31
	Until we can get a handle on this.	00:22:33
	And.	00:22:36
	Once we do, you'll be home.	00:22:39
	Say hey, this is what we found.	00:22:41
	This is the direction.	00:22:43
	Yes.	00:22:49
	And I'll, I'll say this, Dave, I.	00:22:51
	I commend you.	00:22:54
	For what you've been doing.	00:22:56
	You took over after Really. Scott left and Jump.	00:22:58
	With both feet you took over multiple roles.	00:23:03
	The staff is.	00:23:08
	Performed I think excellently, with a few people maybe having.	00:23:10
	You know been ill or or left as well.	00:23:14
	This is not a reflection of anything that any of our people or you have have done, certainly.	00:23:18
	I I think this is a.	00:23:24
	I think this is a forced upon us decision.	00:23:30
	That.	00:23:36
	Makes it very difficult for us to.	00:23:40
	Provide the services that the public has come to expect.	00:23:44
	And I think that.	00:23:49
	Like we said, what we're trying to do here right now.	00:23:51
	Is.	00:23:54
	Just to freeze things while we try and figure out what the new reality looks like.	00:23:55
	Six months from now, we may all come back to the table and say, you know what? We actually think this wasn't as bad as what we	00:24:03
	thought.	00:24:07
	We've got ideas for.	00:24:11
	How we're going to get through it.	00:24:13
	You're able to hire back some some more people or we're able to adjust.	00:24:15
	What we provide.	00:24:19
	I I guess 11 direct question I wouldn't say to you.	00:24:23
	Right now, knowing what you've been going through and what.	00:24:27
	You're doing to try and cover things.	00:24:30
	If you had to make a decision today.	00:24:33
	About what area?	00:24:38
	You would stop service on or you.	00:24:40
	You you get the biggest bang for your buck and cutting back on what would that be?	00:24:43
	Would that be?	00:24:48
	I don't, I don't know at this moment.	00:24:53
	If we stop.	00:24:56
	You know, we've had such a.	00:24:57
	Good relationship with the kids.	00:24:59
	Community, you know, and our citizenship.	00:25:03
	That's going to be the best.	00:25:05
	**** us like.	00:25:08
	Yeah.	00:25:10
	Services is trying.	00:25:11
	To explain to them why.	00:25:12
	Do you think that will all come back to you?	00:25:15
	So that's going to be the.	00:25:19
	As far as the hiring mortgage.	00:25:22
	Right now.	00:25:24
	I was nobody to leave.	00:25:25
	I mean, I'm solid right now.	00:25:26
	At the moment.	00:25:30
	People find out that this is going away and say my 2.	00:25:33
	I've got two guys that are going Tuesday, Thursday, say those guys decide they're going to go.	00:25:36
	Then then I'm hopes again.	00:25:41
	Our services.	00:25:44
	That we have contracts with.	00:25:47
	Well, and and I think the message to them.	00:25:52
	Is.	00:25:55
	Hey, we're trying.	00:25:56
	Take stock is something that's happened at Indianapolis.	00:25:59
	As soon as we know more information.	00:26:03
	We'll update you guys, but.	00:26:05
	Don't necessarily.	00:26:07
	Go running from the building.	00:26:09
	We just got to take a fast minute to figure out what.	00:26:12
	Where things are at?	00:26:15
	Well, I think.	00:26:17
	Will be incumbent upon use.	00:26:20
	I would want to know.	00:26:22
	Like Adam said at first.	00:26:24
	We're at a point where it affects.	00:26:26
	You feel like this isn't safe or?	00:26:29
	We're putting our employees or you know.	00:26:31
	Public, in harm's way.	00:26:34
	By what we're trying to accomplish here, I would like to know and then.	00:26:36
	I guarantee you we're going to get.	00:26:42
	A bunch of calls.	00:26:45
	This discussion that we're having now, because I know a lot of people are very passionate about it, but.	00:26:46
	For those of that that have concerns, I, I.	00:26:51
	Encourage you to call your state representative, your state senator and the governor.	00:26:54
	And those very people that are passionate about that are also the ones that been.	00:26:58
	Beat me up by taxes.	00:27:02
	I mean, I agree so.	00:27:05
	They all got their tax.	00:27:08
	I'm going to make a motion that we.	00:27:14
	Vote on this, OK?	00:27:16
	We have a I have a 5:00 upstairs with.	00:27:19
	Sheriff Bush and I'm gonna.	00:27:22
	OK, probably.	00:27:23
	Frank for that.	00:27:26
	Important maybe, I think that believe it was still a quorum if I could take.	00:27:28
	A commissioner and an attorney upstairs.	00:27:31
	I have a motion. I move.	00:27:34
	Approval.	00:27:38
	I got a motion by Al. Do I have a second?	00:27:39
	A second.	00:27:42
	Second by Brandon, is there any further discussion?	00:27:43
	OK, all in favor of approving the solid waste hiring moratorium, signify by saying aye.	00:27:47
	Aye, any opposed?	00:27:55
	That carries.	00:27:57
	You guys want to go ahead and.	00:27:59
	Thing.	00:28:00
	Yeah.	00:28:03
	All right, Dave, if you wanna.	00:28:17
	Continue on with your directors report, please. OK, All right.	00:28:18
	Marketing and excuse me, I went through some.	00:28:23
	Pollen.	00:28:30
	The albums so.	00:28:31
	No.	00:28:34
	Marketing Communications.	00:28:37
	So it looks like we've got 868 new users.	00:28:40
	I'm just going to kind of hit the high points.	00:28:44
	Operations and initiatives.	00:28:46
	March Dashboard.	00:28:49
	Try to count 4988.	00:28:51
	Looks like it's up 11% from last year.	00:28:53
	Leave.	00:28:58
	She had 13 more tons of.	00:29:00
	Product the year before.	00:29:03
	Sorry, Dave. Sorry about that, Dave.	00:29:07
	And due to the severe storms, we've had several outages.	00:29:10
	Everyone. I think I made you aware of them, Jason, each time that we were down.	00:29:15
	The last one being the wind and the.	00:29:19
	Power outages.	00:29:21
	Umm.	00:29:23
	Oh HW.	00:29:27
	So we brought on a couple of new suppliers this year.	00:29:30
	To try to clean up the.	00:29:35
	A lot of the oil based paint.	00:29:37
	Over the last couple years it seems like we had a mix of.	00:29:41
	Old basin water base that we were spending a lot of money.	00:29:45
	Getting rid of.	00:29:48
	By bringing on.	00:29:49
	Crystal clean.	00:29:51
	And American paint recyclers. We were able to go through all of our paint.	00:29:53
	Supply and separate it out and it's a huge.	00:29:57
	Cost difference in getting rid of all base versus just water base?	00:30:01
	Crystal Clean also is our supplier for picking up all.	00:30:09
	Didn't want to freeze.	00:30:13
	We closed the B&C auto parts.	00:30:16
	Drop off location upon Paoli Pike.	00:30:19
	We're in the process.	00:30:23
	Maybe of relocating That's 350 gallon tank.	00:30:25
	To grant line.	00:30:30
	Which would give us that 700 gallon capacity on oil.	00:30:32
	The more the more that we have, the less it costs to get rid of.	00:30:36
	So with that.	00:30:40
	Will probably be on hold.	00:30:42
	Right until.	00:30:44
	A education.	00:30:48
	Big thing is the.	00:30:51
	Pollinator Day is April 26th.	00:30:53
	I think 10 years running locally.	00:30:56
	More Riddle.	00:31:00
	Heading that up.	00:31:01
	Along with the two of our new or part time employees.	00:31:03
	Olivia Jenkins, who is a sustainability student from.	00:31:06
	IUS and Jarrett Miles, which is another younger.	00:31:11
	Employee that he.	00:31:15
	That we have, and that's at Purdue University on August the 26th.	00:31:16
	April 26, Yes, sorry.	00:31:26
	So like we were talking about, we brought on for part time operators.	00:31:30
	Jerry Miles, who's just an outstanding young man.	00:31:35
	Lots of opportunity and lots of just.	00:31:40
	Extremely hard worker illegal Jenkins is the.	00:31:44
	Sustainability student.	00:31:47
	She was also going to.	00:31:49
	Be part of exercising our tire grant.	00:31:52
	Which I guess will.	00:31:54
	You know, have to discuss that further.	00:31:56
	If we're going to continue on with that.	00:31:59
	Elisa.	00:32:02
	Garland is a part time. She works every other Saturday.	00:32:03
	Very hard worker.	00:32:07
	So again, right now we've got a.	00:32:08
	Fairly solid.	00:32:10
	Group of part time employees.	00:32:11
	Special projects Projects.	00:32:15
	The waist high grant.	00:32:18
	I guess that would be.	00:32:19
	TBD.	00:32:21
	But we were going to target June.	00:32:24
	And we want to target 10 tires per resident.	00:32:27
	So we wouldn't be overrun.	00:32:31
	With the.	00:32:33
	With tires.	00:32:34
	I know there's one customer, that one patron that had talked to Laura.	00:32:35
	That had like 300 tires.	00:32:39
	That they wanted to get rid of. That's not who we want to serve.	00:32:42
	So with the $10,000 we figured we can get rid of.	00:32:47
	Any worse to from 2 to 3000 tires because it's going to cost us anywhere?	00:32:50
	3 to $5 per.	00:32:55
	To process.	00:32:57
	And again, that is 100%.	00:32:59
	Reimbursement grant.	00:33:02
	So we just brought the money up and they reimburse us once it's done.	00:33:04
	Budgets and financial.	00:33:09
	Our total expenses were under budget.	00:33:13
	For the month of March by 27%.	00:33:16
	Office supplies was a little bit over.	00:33:19
	He had needed to replenish some of the stuff they could.	00:33:22
	Carry needed.	00:33:26
	And also some of the.	00:33:28
	Recycling boxes that we.	00:33:29
	Have been trying a process with Amazon.	00:33:31
	Getting rid of lamps.	00:33:36
	Utility Services was up.	00:33:38
	Of course we had some cold.	00:33:40
	You know, continue to have some cold spells.	00:33:42
	And we went to full electric heat.	00:33:45
	You know, so we don't have to go run and get propane three times a week.	00:33:48
	Even though uh.	00:33:52
	That bill is higher. On the flip side, we're not buying propane.	00:33:53
	We're not driving down to the.	00:33:57
	Propane place, you know.	00:33:59
	Spending time doing that, so it's kind of a wash.	00:34:01
	So I guess that is pretty much it.	00:34:04
	For the director.	00:34:08
	Anyone have any questions for?	00:34:10
	Say, Dave, the only thing that I would say is that in regard to the waste tire grant.	00:34:12
	Before we accept that, maybe I think it's worth.	00:34:19
	At least notifying.	00:34:23
	The board via.	00:34:25
	E-mail, would that be OK and just determining where we are?	00:34:26
	Yeah, I think that would be fine. It sounds like it's a reimbursement grant. So if we don't use it, we won't be reimbursed. So it	00:34:30
	sounds like it shouldn't be an issue, but I think it may be wise for us to take a look at that.	00:34:36
	Sounds good to me.	00:34:43
	I guess that the comment if.	00:34:45
	There's a grant for waste tires as there are other grants that we're not reaching out and getting.	00:34:47
	It seems like recycling is a big deal nationwide.	00:34:52
	Right now we're trying to just.	00:34:55
	The two grants that we have.	00:34:58
	Like the is the.	00:35:00
	Rd. Gram.	00:35:02
	Yeah, the.	00:35:17
	The RM.	00:35:23
	DP granted his neighborhood branch.	00:35:25
	It's that one ends in.	00:35:27
	At the end of May.	00:35:30
	I didn't set to do.	00:35:30
	Site visit on the 20.	00:35:32
	1st.	00:35:33
	So.	00:35:35
	We have to pass that visit.	00:35:37
	How old are the Japanese published?	00:35:41
	I guess my point is that are we using?	00:35:44
	Are we seeking out all the grants? We can find those.	00:35:46
	Like for example, the health department gets a lot of grants. Probation is totally fine.	00:35:49
	My grants.	00:35:54
	To go out and seek.	00:35:58
	Herman was doing. She was with me.	00:36:01
	Right, right. So she's, she's gone.	00:36:04
	Did not place her.	00:36:06
	So right now.	00:36:07
	We don't have.	00:36:09
	An hour or two.	00:36:11
	It takes a lot of time.	00:36:12
	Drill through these grants to get done.	00:36:14
	Can I make a suggestion on the grants?	00:36:17
	So the the city and the county are connected to River Hills.	00:36:21
	Which, among other things, does do grant writing.	00:36:27
	Given what Dave has just said and taking into account.	00:36:31
	That there may be some services from them.	00:36:35
	That they could assist with.	00:36:39
	There may be.	00:36:42
	Depending on the particulars and administration of the grant, there may be some fees that would be incurred at some point, but.	00:36:45
	It seems to me like.	00:36:53
	It might be good to get Dave with Corey Cochran.	00:36:54
	To.	00:36:57
	Try to supplement.	00:36:59
	With existing services that we have options.	00:37:01
	If that's OK, I will see Corey on Thursday at the.	00:37:06
	River Hills meeting.	00:37:10
	And I could.	00:37:11
	Facilitate.	00:37:13
	Putting the two of them together.	00:37:14
	And maybe that's the way we we look at seeing if there's any opportunity to make that synergy work.	00:37:16
	To both help out on the staffing side and help.	00:37:22
	Find some.	00:37:25
	Additional dollars, if that.	00:37:26
	I'd supplement the budget.	00:37:29
	My only recognition would be that.	00:37:30
	Any grant that you consider come back to you all to, of course. Yep, Yep.	00:37:32
	Usually the way they operate is they.	00:37:39
	Having their contract or percentage that they would take out of the grant, that would be something that Corey would be able to	00:37:43
	save funds.	00:37:47
	Before we proceed forward with any agreements.	00:37:51
	Exactly. Yeah, I think that's worthy of doing so if you didn't get.	00:37:53
	Make that happen on Thursday.	00:37:56
	Just go kind of go from there.	00:37:58
	Follow Christie's advice so.	00:38:00
	Anybody any more questions for Dave?	00:38:02
	Thanks, Dave.	00:38:06
	Is there any public comment?	00:38:07
	Yes, Sir.	00:38:09
	I found it how difficult it is to write something on this.	00:38:13
	Tiny little object.	00:38:17
	I'm not sure something I think.	00:38:20
	Had a hinted at possible elimination.	00:38:22
	Of the service.	00:38:24
	Is this not required by the state?	00:38:26
	I thought the state created.	00:38:28
	Of this so I'll.	00:38:31
	Push that to.	00:38:34
	Our attorney because it's my understanding that that is no longer.	00:38:35
	I do not believe at this moment that that is an requirement of state statute.	00:38:40
	OK.	00:38:44
	Possible use of volunteers.	00:38:48
	I every once in a while volunteer a little bit.	00:38:51
	There might be some other people who believe in this enough that they would volunteer.	00:38:57
	Is there going to be an issue with?	00:39:01
	Liability.	00:39:03
	Things like that.	00:39:06
	I would. I think that probably best sits in the hands of.	00:39:07
	And you know if he has any thoughts or concerns kind of going forward with that, I know that it seems like you all use volunteers	00:39:11
	quite a bit for.	00:39:15
	Things.	00:39:19
	There is a little bit of liability when it comes to.	00:39:20
	I know. Yeah, I said we would have a liability waiver and.	00:39:24
	Yeah.	00:39:29
	Sure.	00:39:31
	Yeah.	00:39:39
	I think I think that's the problem with anybody that leans on volunteers, at least at this point, no matter what.	00:39:40
	Realm you're in is that.	00:39:46
	Everybody's just fighting to kind of make ends meet.	00:39:48
	Family's life is just.	00:39:51
	Very busy where?	00:39:54
	People just don't have the time that they once did and then.	00:39:55
	Of course you know.	00:39:58
	A lot of people who.	00:40:01
	Live here in Floyd County, don't work here in Floyd County, so there's travel times.	00:40:03
	You know, there's a multitude of different things and.	00:40:07
	Reasons that volunteers just haven't seemed to workout very well. But.	00:40:09
	That's one of the things I hear on the fire service side too, is.	00:40:14
	You know, people get upset because you know.	00:40:17
	Firefighters getting paid X Well, you know, how many times did you drive by that volunteer Firehouse when I said firefighters	00:40:19
	needed?	00:40:22
	He just kept driving.	00:40:25
	I well, I.	00:40:30
	We had to cut any part of it but.	00:40:33
	I think the collections of the subdivision would be.	00:40:36
	Logical first thing to cut.	00:40:40
	Never mind.	00:40:50
	Yeah, well.	00:40:54
	Possibility of.	00:40:54
	Funding from public.	00:40:55
	Businesses.	00:40:58
	You're talking about a possible grant, right?	00:40:59
	Yeah. I, I, I think when I was envisioning was a way to look at what's out there and, you know, be able to continue to go after	00:41:02
	those grant funds for.	00:41:07
	Programmatic pieces or what have you, but.	00:41:13
	You know, I would not be opposed again, kind of.	00:41:16
	Marking back on earlier comments.	00:41:20
	The meeting that I shared was a tart meeting where they were talking about potential service cuts.	00:41:23
	And they made reference that a particular big.	00:41:28
	Corporate. Uh.	00:41:32
	Business had paid for.	00:41:33
	A route.	00:41:36
	To be run in southern Indiana.	00:41:37
	If a business is so.	00:41:42
	Dedicated to.	00:41:44
	And feels that the services as such that they get a direct benefit and they want to pay for.	00:41:46
	For that.	00:41:53
	I think we can come up with a cost.	00:41:54
	And I would have no problem.	00:41:57
	Entering that.	00:41:59
	Into the dynamic of the services that we would provide.	00:42:01
	A great example may be you know hey if the cardboard services is such a good service.	00:42:07
	Here's what it costs us to.	00:42:15
	Fully do that.	00:42:17
	Without any subsidization at all.	00:42:18
	And that may be different for different, you know.	00:42:22
	For example, if I'm going out to the New Albany Industrial Park, that's not that far away from where the Baylor's at. If I got to	00:42:25
	run all the way out to Greenville, that's a 20 minute drive. That may be a different story about what that looks like.	00:42:32
	But I think you could have those discussions.	00:42:39
	To see.	00:42:42
	Is there a mathematical formula that works out for everyone that they would be willing to pay for that service?	00:42:43
	OK. Thank you, Sir.	00:42:51
	Any other public comment?	00:42:55
	All right. Seeing none, does anybody in the board have any comments?	00:42:58
	I mean, I'll just echo this again. I, I think everybody on a local level.	00:43:03
	You know, for, for, for starters, none of us, I think.	00:43:10
	Are against.	00:43:15
	Property tax relief.	00:43:18
	I don't think that any of us are against the services that are being provided, not just by solid waste but by a multitude of our.	00:43:20
	Public offices, our police or fire, all of those things.	00:43:29
	This is difficult.	00:43:35
	For.	00:43:37
	And.	00:43:38
	You know, actions have consequences, and in this case it's.	00:43:40
	Actions that took place in Indianapolis are going to have consequences here.	00:43:45
	I don't want to scare anybody either.	00:43:50
	Like I said earlier, we don't need.	00:43:53
	Employees, we don't need the public.	00:43:56
	Running around like chickens with their heads cut off. The sky is falling.	00:43:59
	We need time.	00:44:04
	So that we can figure out what this looks like.	00:44:05
	We've been asked to come up with a new reality.	00:44:09
	There are some tools in the tool chest that were given as part of that.	00:44:12
	If the public is willing to to.	00:44:17
	Accommodate some of that.	00:44:20
	I'm I'm not a proponent of taxation here as a general rule, but.	00:44:23
	If the majority of the public says that this is a great service and these other services are great services and they want us to	00:44:27
	pass.	00:44:31
	An income tax to provide for that as allowed by SB1.	00:44:35
	Then maybe that's a discussion we have as a community.	00:44:39
	But we have to make.	00:44:42
	The adjustments and be prepared.	00:44:45
	And we'd want to do it in a way that is responsible throughout this year as opposed to waiting until we get to January 1 and then	00:44:48
	deciding, oh, we don't have enough money.	00:44:53
	We're we're, we're gonna, you know, just lop off whole sections of our of our.	00:44:57
	Government.	00:45:02
	So, you know, I really think it's an opportunity for us to.	00:45:04
	Take a moment to have time, and I want the public to be part of that. I want to have a dialogue and a conversation. And as it was	00:45:09
	said earlier, if you don't like what's what's happening here, understand that.	00:45:15
	Please make sure you register that with the folks who registered that on us.	00:45:22
	I agree, you know.	00:45:28
	The only thing I'm going to close with is that.	00:45:30
	I go a lot of what Adam said, you know, a lot of this was forced upon us where we're going to have to make some tough decisions.	00:45:34
	And I have no problem making tough decisions if I need to, but.	00:45:40
	If you have a.	00:45:47
	Questions about how some of this is kind of going down? I think maybe you need to reach out to your.	00:45:48
	State elected offices that.	00:45:52
	Voted in favor of this without really.	00:45:54
	Much input from the local level so.	00:45:56
	With that being said, I'll take a motion to adjourn.	00:46:00
	So move.	00:46:03
	Second, all right.	00:46:04
	Have a good day.	00:46:06
	Yeah, it's a fun meeting.	00:46:13
	Yeah.	00:46:15
	It's gonna be a bunch of fun.	00:46:18
	Yeah, yeah. We're just getting started. Four months, yeah.	00:46:19
	Oh yeah.	00:46:23
	So everyone's going to be running the financial analysis.	00:46:26
	All the fiscal analysis that's going to be done.	00:46:30
	Well, I can tell you I've already seen the primary analysis out of after it came out of ways of me and it's cigarettes, yeah.	00:46:32