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Tell us, Brendan, whenever you're ready. 00:00:01
OK. And I think. 00:00:05
Brad Striegel's gonna try to join us via Teams. He just texted me just a minute ago. And then. 00:00:08
Our attorney cannot make it today. He got stuck. 00:00:14
In an airport. 00:00:18
Last night and he's trying to get home. 00:00:19
This morning. 00:00:22
I think Brad might be on teams. Brad, are you? Can you hear us? 00:00:23
Yes, I'm here, all right. 00:00:30
OK, we're going to call the meeting to order. 00:00:31
Roll call, please. We can hear. We can hear you. Can you hear us? 00:00:36
Right. 00:00:41
The dark side of the moon. 00:00:46
I'll tell him it'll take. 00:00:50
He's rejoining or something like that. 00:00:54
Used to have a phone on the desk and you hit the, you dial somebody up and yes, yeah. 00:01:05
Our youngest is in London. 00:01:11
Stolen the other day and just trying to have a backup communication. It's like, it's crazy, Yeah. 00:01:13
Yeah. 00:01:18
And there are no Verizon stores open. 00:01:22
Vodafone or something like that. 00:01:25
Replace Verizon was great, they within three hours and said. 00:01:27
Set it up and. 00:01:33
Just went down to UPS well. 00:01:35
UPS was. 00:01:37
200 bucks, Yeah, the phone was 200 after insurance today. I had to pay a tariff this morning for like 240 bucks because it was 00:01:38
being held up at the. 00:01:43
There's $1000 phone. Yeah, yeah. 00:01:48
Do you like me to take Venmo? 00:01:52
To my Venmo, Sir. 00:01:54
He said. I think he's in. 00:01:56
He says the audio is very low on his end. 00:01:59
No, I got you. 00:02:06
I mean, I could. 00:02:10
He called me on my phone or something on speaker. 00:02:11
Yeah, just having calling in on a cell phone if he wants to. 00:02:16
You want me to just. 00:02:21
I can call him. 00:02:23
OK. 00:02:24
We'll count it. 00:02:27
Hey, are you OK? I'll just put you on my speakerphone. 00:02:33
Is that all right? 00:02:36
You should be able to hear all of us. 00:02:37
Floor of us here so. 00:02:39
OK. 00:02:40
You know, just set it over there. 00:02:41
Yeah, what you said here in the middle of us. 00:02:43
Yeah, I know. That's OK. 00:02:44
Have patience, we're this is our first. 00:02:48
Uh. 00:02:51
We have a trace of replacement here. 00:02:52
She's baptized by fire. 00:02:55
It'll take a long time to get used to that system because it's it's got. 00:03:00
A couple issues. 00:03:03
OK, umm. 00:03:04
We're gonna. 00:03:05
Call the meeting to Order of the Flood Can Redevelop Commission. 00:03:06
For Tuesday, July 15th. 00:03:10
Brenda, if you want to do a roll call. 00:03:12
Here. 00:03:16
Here. 00:03:19
Here here. 00:03:21
Here. 00:03:24
Yeah, Brad's here via remote and let the record show that our attorney could not make it today. 00:03:27
He got, like I said, he got stuck on a. 00:03:34
Traveling, trying to get, trying to get home so. 00:03:37
So if any legal matters come up, we have to defer that. 00:03:40
Yeah, she is not here. Melanie. Absolute so. 00:03:45
All right. First item of business is the minutes and claims. 00:03:48
Hopefully you had a chance to look at it and entertain a motion to approve the minutes. 00:03:53
From uh. 00:03:58
June 17. 00:04:00
So moved second motion by all 6 by Danny. You need discussion on those. 00:04:01
All in favor say aye aye. 00:04:08
Right, right. OK, Breads and I. 00:04:10
Second item is we have one. 00:04:14
Claim. I think we have one. 00:04:17
Well, I'm sorry, wait a minute. We have one more set of minutes to approve. We have an executive session on June 17th. 00:04:19
I'd entertain a motion. 00:04:26
To approve. 00:04:27
Those minutes to allow me to sign those minutes along with the secretary. 00:04:29
So moved second. 00:04:33
All in favor say aye aye. 00:04:37
All right, all right. 00:04:39
OK. And we have one claim. 00:04:41
From Young. 00:04:43
I think that's been missing. Yeah, it was an Amber Alert, like I got that a minute ago. 00:04:45
We have one claim from Young Lynn interesting craft is the. 00:04:59
The amount of $575 for his attorney services for the board. 00:05:02
I entertain a motion to approve that claim. 00:05:07
So move second. 00:05:09
Motion by Rich, second by Al. 00:05:11
All in favor say aye aye. 00:05:13
Motion carries, OK. 00:05:16
Public comments, I think both of you guys. 00:05:19
Here on both all of you guys. 00:05:21
Yeah, we have agenda. You guys are on the agenda, so. 00:05:24
All right, so. 00:05:27
New business. 00:05:29
Go ahead, Nick. 00:05:31
So no Nova Park is item A. 00:05:34
The first item under Nova Park, we have an allowance adjustment #2 for the red wire portion of the building. 00:05:37
Allowance adjustment for this request is $8519. 00:05:48
Few miscellaneous items. Coat hooks. 00:05:54
Plumbing fixtures. 00:05:58
We asked them to do some changes to their erosion control and their guardrail work. 00:06:01
Their signage. 00:06:07
And then there was a section of the electrical to go back to the back lot. 00:06:09
There was a lot of rock there, and it was. 00:06:14
Might be a good idea and. 00:06:17
Not to do that portion now would probably. 00:06:18
Costs a lot more. So we just took that out. So we had that change order adjustment there. 00:06:21
That was just for future growth, right? Yes, yeah. 00:06:26
I just had a question on the guardrail. We work that. 00:06:32
So we initially it was further right off of the lamp and. 00:06:35
On the department, Ask them. 00:06:40
Short. Shorten it. Oh. 00:06:44
OK. 00:06:46
What did? 00:06:47
I think in meeting with the fire department out there. 00:06:50
Discussions about that, the location of the OK. 00:06:55
Might give it a minute. 00:07:02
Brad probably can't hear us. 00:07:03
All right, OK. 00:07:08
Any other questions on? 00:07:10
On this. 00:07:12
It's going to go crazy and. 00:07:15
They definitely hit your attention. 00:07:20
If there's no other questions, I would entertain a motion to actually no. 00:07:24
So this will, yeah, I would recommend this to the Commission. 00:07:29
Yeah, we would recommend. 00:07:33
Approval of. 00:07:34
Violence number 2 so entertain a motion to recommend approval of allowance #2 to the Commissioner. 00:07:36
So moved. 00:07:42
Motion by Danny. 00:07:43
Second Second by Al. 00:07:45
All in favor say aye aye. 00:07:47
Brad, can you hear us? 00:07:51
Still, we have that on tonight. 00:07:52
OK. Thank you, Sir. 00:07:57
The next item I was hoping Justin would be here. We will work on this. 00:08:00
Yeah. 00:08:04
For the lease agreement, for the lease agreement, we had some question about SO. 00:08:06
Part of the bond payment was reliant. 00:08:11
On the property tax revenue? 00:08:15
For the structure. 00:08:19
IUS is a tax exempt. 00:08:21
So yeah. 00:08:24
That would be. 00:08:25
Hit Justin's estimate would decrease the revenue there by $16,000. 00:08:26
Annually. 00:08:33
So we were. 00:08:35
Needing to update the lease agreement. 00:08:38
And I guess I would look for some direction if we want to. 00:08:42
Ask for that. 00:08:46
My US or. 00:08:48
Well, weren't we also going back and forth with? 00:08:52
Because you and I met with, I can't remember the gentleman's name. 00:08:56
Without us. 00:08:59
Always if he was without you. 00:09:00
He represented their couch. 00:09:03
Anyway, we met. 00:09:07
To go through the lease agreement. 00:09:08
And I thought they were drafting revisions, right? Yes, they were drafting revisions. And there this was just kind of an 00:09:10
outstanding item that came from that discussion. OK. 00:09:15
OK, ah. 00:09:20
I would think we could ask for it. 00:09:23
And see where that leads. I mean, it's lost revenue. 00:09:25
For us. 00:09:29
I don't know. I think that. 00:09:32
We're we're, we're building an $800,000. 00:09:35
It's a nice. 00:09:39
Amenity for them and. 00:09:41
I know they were. 00:09:43
Expecting no payment. 00:09:44
For it, but we're customizing it. 00:09:46
Based on their needs so. 00:09:49
That would be my fault. 00:09:51
So I don't know that we need to take action. I don't think there's action that direction. 00:09:55
To justice. 00:10:00
I think it $1300 a month. That's a bargain. 00:10:01
It is really and it's customized space, right? I mean it's. 00:10:04
So that's all I have for that item. 00:10:10
The next item is the barn update. 00:10:13
So I think it was last meeting. 00:10:16
Ruben discussed. 00:10:18
Cowborne Foundation. It looked like it had come off the foundation. 00:10:20
Pretty good amount and. 00:10:25
Think it came up after the fact when we had a storm. 00:10:27
Yeah, and. 00:10:31
Mr. Lot. 00:10:34
Advised us that Mister John Beams had. 00:10:38
Rights, material, if we were to do anything with the structure. I reached out to him. 00:10:41
He he can speak to that, his reaction to that, but he informed me that. 00:10:51
The agreement. 00:10:56
We have we have a development agreement. 00:10:57
On that structure. 00:11:00
With historic. 00:11:02
Indian historic landmarks. 00:11:04
Umm, to. 00:11:07
Maintain. 00:11:08
That structure I included the development agreement in your own packet. I think it. 00:11:09
At the end. 00:11:17
5. 00:11:20
To preserve and maintain in perpetuity. 00:11:22
The structures so. 00:11:25
I think we'll have to change our plan we were considering. 00:11:29
Yeah, taking that down, they are here. 00:11:32
Wanted to be here to speak on to this item so. 00:11:35
I guess the challenge we're going to have is figuring out. 00:11:38
How do you? 00:11:41
How do we? 00:11:43
Where do we find the money to do that? 00:11:45
If we. 00:11:47
Do we have an estimate on that? 00:11:48
I think it was a structural concern. 00:11:51
On the foundation side. 00:11:53
We don't, right? We haven't gotten it right. Initially it was going to be part of the ready monies, right? 00:11:56
And that was pulled back because we needed it. Yeah, we. 00:12:02
Everything went over budget. What was the original intent for the use of that structure? 00:12:07
Well. 00:12:13
It has morphed overtime. It was going to be a cold. 00:12:15
At one time we looked at lab space. 00:12:21
And then we talked about maybe it'll just be an event space. 00:12:23
Maybe it could be some kind of? 00:12:27
We didn't. We didn't have a final vision. It was it had changed. 00:12:30
Overtime. 00:12:35
In discussions with Red Wire not to pick on. 00:12:36
You know, but it discusses with Red Wire and others. 00:12:38
Could it be an entrepreneurial incubator space? 00:12:41
We did. We never settled. We talked about the one that's. 00:12:45
By the silo or the. 00:12:48
The basketball court, Yeah, yeah. 00:12:52
Yeah, I thought it was closer to the workspace. 00:12:55
Yeah, I warned about the house. 00:12:58
OK. 00:13:00
That's right, it's the one by the house. 00:13:02
So. 00:13:06
Yeah. 00:13:07
We never settled on. 00:13:09
What the final? 00:13:11
Use would be. 00:13:13
And then it's it's. 00:13:15
Nick alluded to. 00:13:16
As budgets became. 00:13:18
More apparent. 00:13:21
Actual costs became more apparent on them. 00:13:22
Red wire building. 00:13:25
Development. 00:13:27
We had to focus all of our funding there. I mean, we. 00:13:28
We have no. 00:13:31
We couldn't turn back. We had to. 00:13:33
We had to focus on that. 00:13:35
Can we get? 00:13:37
Can we get estimates to just to shore it up? 00:13:39
And then, yeah, that would be our next step. And then maybe we can roll that cost, yeah. 00:13:41
Correct way to do that consistent with. 00:13:48
And I don't know, umm, uh. 00:13:51
If you all want to speak to that, maybe there's some funds out there somewhere that we could. 00:13:52
Sorry, Greg, I don't. I don't want to put you on the spot. Yeah. 00:13:58
I mean, maybe there's. 00:14:01
There, there may be some opportunities out there. As you know, the grant climate right now is just very uncertain on every level. 00:14:06
Things that we've relied on historically are. 00:14:12
In question right now, so it's hard to tell. 00:14:18
I know at one time we had talked about. 00:14:21
That ship may have sailed. 00:14:25
You know, I added. 00:14:27
Recommended to die that they investigate kind of National Register listing for the farmstead because if it were on the register 00:14:28
that would open up. 00:14:32
Some funding through the state's Historic Preservation Fund. 00:14:37
Which is federal money, that's. 00:14:40
Trickle down to the states for preservation projects, and nonprofits and governmental entities are able to tap into that money. 00:14:42
Which includes bricks and mortar work. 00:14:50
But the caveat is it's got to be listed on the National Register in order to to qualify. 00:14:52
So that funding source is not available unfortunately at this point. 00:14:58
You know, there may be some other opportunities. I think as Nick said, the first step is to kind of get a. 00:15:03
You know, a plan together for at least stabilization. 00:15:09
You know, I recognize monies right now tight on all levels. So, you know, if it's a matter of just kind of stabilizing it and 00:15:13
mothballing it. 00:15:17
Until future opportunities arise and a use can be found that makes sense for the building, yeah, we're certainly amenable to that. 00:15:21
We're not saying you have to do a complete restoration at this point. 00:15:26
The important thing is to try to maintain and at least keep the building there. 00:15:32
And I think that's what we'll do, Nick, if we can get someone. 00:15:36
You know, give us that, I mean. 00:15:40
I'm not structural. I don't want to pretend to know. 00:15:42
What would have to be done? 00:15:45
I don't know. 00:15:47
Yeah, it would be nice. There's there's. 00:15:48
There are folks out there that can do that kind of work, right? 00:15:51
And I know in the past I've given nonsense names, but glad to share those with Nick and and we have that. 00:15:54
I think they actually looked at the structure once or twice. 00:16:01
I'm not sure. I know the other barn was looked at at one. OK, maybe it's the other one I'm thinking of. There's a gentleman out 00:16:04
of. 00:16:07
Illinois named Rick Collins, who I think had been assaulted at one point. There's a. 00:16:11
Schwartz family up in northern Indiana. There they specialize in barn. 00:16:17
Administration, I think I'm thinking of Shorts. OK, yeah, because he had a proposal for, but it was probably the other building. I 00:16:22
think it was the other barn at the time. 00:16:27
If if the property was registered. 00:16:33
Historic would that. 00:16:36
Pare down the used. 00:16:37
Used for the barn, it doesn't affect per se the use. It does open up grant funding, of course, if you apply for grant funding 00:16:39
under a program that's focused on historic. 00:16:44
They're going to want to approve a plan and and make sure that the work that you're doing is consistent with preservation 00:16:50
standards. 00:16:53
But as I said, right now it's just sort of. 00:16:58
There's a lot of uncertainty about any of these programs. 00:17:01
Gotcha. Well, I think that's our next step. We just. 00:17:07
See what we're dealing with? 00:17:10
It looks like contractually we at least have to mitigate against. 00:17:11
Further damage. 00:17:15
Right. You know, and just, you know, for background that commitment grew out of. 00:17:17
We donated land to the county for. 00:17:23
Nova part for the bridge crossing and sort of in lieu of. 00:17:27
Payment, we kind of negotiated some terms and that's where that preservation commitment came out of was that. 00:17:31
Effort to donate that land for the bridge overpass? Sure. 00:17:38
Yeah, no. 00:17:41
I think we'll we'll. 00:17:43
See what we get out of. 00:17:45
I'm John Beams, previous owner of the property. Thank you for the opportunity to be here and. 00:17:46
Connection with Nick and Don has been. 00:17:52
Fantastic. 00:17:56
From the Beam family. 00:17:57
Of course we're emotional. 00:17:59
So you're gonna see it. 00:18:01
To make sure it's maintained. 00:18:03
My question I guess is. 00:18:05
Would you consider? 00:18:07
Some type of. 00:18:10
Least triple net lease to a private entity. 00:18:11
It might come in. 00:18:15
You know, and set it up as a wedding venue, our function center like they have out in Palmyra or something like that. So just a 00:18:16
question, I'm not saying. 00:18:21
I have one available. 00:18:26
But we would certainly do that due diligence to. 00:18:27
Maybe even get a corporate sponsor to put their name on it. It won't be Papa John's. 00:18:32
But if you understand what I'm saying, something of that nature. 00:18:37
For consideration that we could get. 00:18:42
Public. 00:18:45
Public exposure for events Center. 00:18:46
I know Nick and Don and I talked about across the road for the potential growth over there with what's happening with. 00:18:50
Premier Homes and everything there. 00:18:57
So I think there's, I think there's room for. 00:19:00
A little bit different type of entity. 00:19:03
Facility or venue? 00:19:06
That would workout to the country setting that's there. 00:19:08
And also, you know. 00:19:12
Individual meeting, but. 00:19:14
Upstairs and you know that facility, you know there's a full court, not full court, half court, basketball court up there. 00:19:16
That could be used for. 00:19:22
Certain thing and as a private entity. 00:19:25
We don't have as many maybe restrictions that's required by. 00:19:28
The county so just. 00:19:34
Wanted to see if we could put that on some discussion point. 00:19:36
To see whether or not it would even be considered as. 00:19:40
A triple net type of program or whatever. 00:19:43
Mechanism. 00:19:46
Might work. 00:19:48
For some individuals, and we have a lot of people interested, you know, that was a Yellow Line purchase. 00:19:49
Development that you know my family for years wouldn't was first established. 00:19:55
So there is some historic. 00:20:00
Aspect of the property and with what red wire is doing and the growth. 00:20:02
And and what the root is doing with the building and the additional building there. 00:20:08
We. We would certainly. 00:20:13
Create some energy. 00:20:15
From the private sector to see what could be done with that type of arrangement for shared parking. 00:20:17
And we understand there's guidelines and restrictions that. 00:20:23
We would have to deal with with some type of lease program like that, but. 00:20:27
Just a question that. 00:20:31
Perhaps it could be added, and I don't know whether that changes any grant programs. 00:20:33
Whether it's a lease program. 00:20:37
Or whether it's a property owned program in some cases. 00:20:39
You have to own the property to get the grant. 00:20:42
But that doesn't mean we couldn't go to some foundations. 00:20:45
It does not have as many restrictions. 00:20:48
I, you know, Caesars Foundation. 00:20:52
Like they. 00:20:54
Of supported other programs and. 00:20:55
In the whole community and. 00:20:58
We'd like to have their involvement up our way as well. 00:21:00
I think question great option. 00:21:04
So the direction I have there is all looking. 00:21:09
Yeah, getting some. 00:21:11
Quotes to shore up the building? Yes please. Structurally, thanks. 00:21:12
And I will. 00:21:17
Time to get those hands been discussed with Morrissey's, Yeah, I don't think inflating some rays or something, yeah. 00:21:19
What we'll talk about. 00:21:26
I had. I do have one more Noble Park item to add here real quick. 00:21:29
Spoke with Nick Lawrence. 00:21:32
Earlier this week, he's working on the RFP process. He suggested forming a working group to help. 00:21:35
Facilitate that kind of as an iterative. 00:21:43
Get it out. Yeah, yeah. 00:21:46
So I guess I'd like to gauge your all's interest on. 00:21:48
Want to be involved? 00:21:52
Well, we want you on there for sure. She's yeah. 00:21:54
Who on the? 00:21:58
3.6 has time. 00:21:59
I don't think it'd be a heavy lift, but it would take. 00:22:05
When you don't want the teacher to call on you, like the RFP for Noble Park. 00:22:10
The warrants completely suggested having just a small working group to kind of. 00:22:16
Work through the details. 00:22:21
Request. 00:22:23
Yeah, what it would look like before we send it out RP like for the outlines or for the for the whole park? 00:22:24
For for, yeah. 00:22:29
To help spur interest. 00:22:31
To develop the park, yeah, I can look that over with you. I'm just I've got a really busy. 00:22:33
3-4 weeks coming up but. 00:22:38
I will definitely be on it. 00:22:41
If I get one other person to definitely be on it and then we can whoever can be available. 00:22:43
Brad, did you hear any of that? 00:22:50
OK, I mean, I can definitely. 00:22:54
Help out with that and we. 00:22:56
We can do it before or after some of our other meetings out here, but so Brad, we have the Wheatley group. 00:22:58
Working on. 00:23:04
Preparing an overall request for proposal. 00:23:05
To send out. 00:23:08
To gauge to get interest in Nova Park. 00:23:11
And looking for some. 00:23:14
Folks off of this? 00:23:18
Board to help. 00:23:19
Review that with. 00:23:21
Weekly so they can. 00:23:23
Bouncing ideas off of us before they present the final RFP. 00:23:24
I was going to look it over. I mean I I can do the same. 00:23:30
I mean, that's kind of my world, so. 00:23:32
I don't mind looking at it. We don't need a commitment now. I can send an e-mail out. 00:23:35
Send one out, we'll see who's. 00:23:40
OK. And he had an additional question, I guess someone approached them with some interest of? 00:23:41
I can manage data center. 00:23:47
And what is it? An edge status? It's like small data center. 00:23:49
To locate. 00:23:54
Small scale 88 to 10 acre data center. 00:23:55
Oh, OK. 00:23:59
And wanted to know if that fit with. 00:24:00
Duke has been hard enough to get out there, now it's good. 00:24:03
Sucks up a lot of power, yeah. 00:24:07
If they want to support it. 00:24:09
Yeah, we'd have to get Duke out there. 00:24:11
I think we just need to see a few details on. 00:24:12
Yeah, I mean. 00:24:15
Then generate a lot of people but. 00:24:17
Now any update on the? 00:24:19
Aviation center we're meeting is after we're meeting with the child. 00:24:22
Today after this so. 00:24:28
We'll see what see what he brings up, but. 00:24:31
All right, moving on. 00:24:35
If I may. 00:24:38
Oh yeah, to Edwardville School. 00:24:39
The roof evaluation update. 00:24:42
We had a meeting scheduled with KPFF. 00:24:45
The sprinklers. 00:24:50
Alan Age, The Architects. 00:24:52
And uh. 00:24:54
One of the roofing company that did some of the work lines roofing. 00:24:56
On site. 00:25:01
The sprinklers were not able to make that meeting. 00:25:02
But mines roofing. 00:25:06
And I think they got. 00:25:08
Information. 00:25:10
Back and forth with KPFF. 00:25:12
To have some understanding of what they would need to do to shore up. 00:25:14
The structure. 00:25:18
But I'm not sure if and that's why I asked the spriglers to come and kind of. 00:25:19
Give us an update of the status of that roof, their communications with KPFF. 00:25:23
And when we can have this roof secured? 00:25:29
And ready to transfer. 00:25:33
Yeah, and I saw the emails. 00:25:34
Between. 00:25:37
Lions and KPFS so it looks like. 00:25:37
Lyons has a clear understanding of the upper roof. 00:25:41
Which is the portion they worked on. 00:25:44
If I'm reading everything correctly. 00:25:47
And they're waiting on a. 00:25:50
Some type of. 00:25:51
Fastener detail I guess from KPFF. 00:25:52
To make. 00:25:56
Whatever corrective. 00:25:57
Measures are needed to the upper roof. Yeah, lower roof. 00:25:58
They did. 00:26:02
They didn't have anything to say on that. Yeah, there's some details that the sprinklers need to provide for the lower, for the 00:26:03
lower roof and I think under the decking. 00:26:07
OK, underneath the upper route. 00:26:12
So I asked them to come and give us an update if they've been there before that time. 00:26:15
So did that meeting take place? 00:26:19
Before or after? 00:26:21
The letter went out from. 00:26:24
Our attorney on that. 00:26:26
So our attorney. 00:26:28
So we never sent a letter. 00:26:29
Right, because we had this meeting scheduled, OK. 00:26:31
So that the man letter never went out. 00:26:36
Right, OK. 00:26:38
We may need to revisit. 00:26:41
But I would ask that. 00:26:43
The sprinklers come up and give an update on. 00:26:45
The roof status. 00:26:47
And they're scheduled to make the necessary corrections. 00:26:49
OK. 00:26:54
I apologize, we were. 00:26:56
Able to be at the meeting last Wednesday. 00:27:00
Unfortunately, I have on my schedule and Cody had an accident. 00:27:03
Statistically, A firework accident. 00:27:06
During 4th July, so all fingers still actually in the hospital for several days. So I apologize for that, but. 00:27:09
We have been in contact with KPFF as of yesterday, actually trading emails this morning. 00:27:16
And we're getting them the information that. 00:27:21
We did on. 00:27:23
So the lower part. 00:27:24
We we did the we demoed the. 00:27:26
The roofs, the concrete and put new plywood. 00:27:29
There's some we're getting information on that, but. 00:27:31
Lions did come in and do the. 00:27:34
Do the remaining part of the roof so. 00:27:36
Like I shared an e-mail, we'll do whatever we need to do to get this resolved. We're not trying to. 00:27:39
Anything in Lyons is a really reputable company. 00:27:44
And so. 00:27:47
What really waiting to hear back from KPFF what we need to do or what should be done with this. 00:27:49
I even thought, do we need to get another in? 00:27:54
Maybe get some? 00:27:57
Maybe we can engineer to to look at. I don't know, I don't. 00:27:58
Because I just my talks with them a little bit. 00:28:00
They have. They had to go back and look. So I don't know if there's somebody that actually specializes in roofing like this on a 00:28:03
historic building. That might be something I can ask. 00:28:06
I just want to make sure it's done right. So whatever we need to do to do that, we will. So I think Chad if. 00:28:13
The last I saw. 00:28:19
From Lions back to KPFF or vice versa. 00:28:21
I think EPF is supposed to be giving them a detail, right? Yes, Yeah. So they're. 00:28:25
They said they were. 00:28:30
They're working on so we we did hold some monies out on. 00:28:31
On lines, probably not as much as it's going to take, but I do know that they're going to warranty or whatever they need to do. 00:28:35
Now on the lower part, if we got to take it, that's something that we have to eat on the plywood then we'll we'll we'll take care 00:28:39
of that ourselves so. 00:28:44
OK. Do you did they give you maybe we need to follow up with KPFF, did they give any indication of? 00:28:49
When they'll have that detail ready for the upper roof. 00:28:58
And then on the lower Europe? 00:29:00
Are you guys providing them more, more information on that? So we actually had photos. 00:29:02
We demoed and we. 00:29:07
Got that from our contractor. So we're supplying those two. Are you with your schedule on that? I'm just trying to. 00:29:08
I mean, we got to stay. I mean the. 00:29:19
With PFF, I feel like they're so busy that kind of can't stay on. I mean the step on the lower roof. 00:29:21
You're yeah, you provided that back to. 00:29:27
Yeah, so KPF has everything they need at this point. 00:29:31
From our part, yes, I don't know on the Lions part of it, We try to call them before this meeting when they will catch up, I 00:29:33
guess. Nick, we. 00:29:37
Reach back at the KPFF and say OK do you need anything additional? 00:29:40
To finish your analysis. 00:29:45
Right, OK. 00:29:47
I think the main issue is this is being drawn out with you. 00:29:49
Yeah, we want closure. 00:29:53
Answers immediately. 00:29:55
So we can move on to the next step. 00:29:58
Because we want to be done with. 00:30:06
And I know everybody does. We want to be. 00:30:08
Closed on the deal. 00:30:10
Also gives an update on our project too, so gateway we're. 00:30:11
Leaders were setting trusses on our. 00:30:15
4th building on Thursday. I mean at this time next year. 00:30:17
We plan to be moving people in so. 00:30:20
We want to get you guys going this building more than anything because. 00:30:23
Time we get wrapped up, we want this whole development to be wrapped up, so. 00:30:26
But yeah, the project looks great. We're starting the 5th building. 00:30:31
Frameworks were scheduled I think next week for that, so. 00:30:35
Good. So I think to Nick's point. 00:30:39
Chad, the sooner we can get. 00:30:42
Schedule back. 00:30:45
Once I mean KPFF I know owes you a detail. 00:30:47
Yeah, once they get that back to you, we're gonna. 00:30:50
We're going to need a real schedule, right? 00:30:53
When can we close this out? Because we're we are trying to get this, yeah. 00:30:56
Are the are the emails consolidated so everybody's on it? Well, it's what's weird. 00:31:00
I did not get that e-mail. 00:31:09
Nick, if you respond, can we kind of? 00:31:18
Group everybody in on one going forward and yeah, so it's because everybody's on that one maybe. Yeah, well, and it's kind of 00:31:22
like. 00:31:25
We didn't think they were responding, but they did a few weeks ago for some reason. It might be on our end. We're not getting 00:31:28
them. 00:31:31
We're not. We included. Am I included on that e-mail? You and Cody, you and Cody are. 00:31:34
On there, we've been getting stuff from George. 00:31:38
As I said earlier today, so so it's. 00:31:41
Yeah, from my Kyle lines and it's got. 00:31:44
Cory on there, Cody. 00:31:46
Yourself so OK. 00:31:48
Hopefully. 00:31:50
For Lyons seems to be now. 00:31:51
It was hard getting them back out there, but now? 00:31:54
Like they're engaged. 00:31:57
See that then he gets this resolved so. 00:31:58
So I think Nick, once we get. 00:32:01
Confirmation that KPF has everything they need. 00:32:04
Need to get a schedule. How soon can they get their recommendations back on corrective measures? 00:32:07
And then? 00:32:12
Get the schedule of. When will it be correct? 00:32:13
Are fixed or finished whatever you want to call. 00:32:16
That I sense that. 00:32:21
The lower roof was a little bit more in question. 00:32:23
Maybe that there were there was a clear there there were clear corrective measures to the upper roof, right I I think. 00:32:25
The lower. 00:32:33
Right. 00:32:35
There are some questions. That's what I understood too from because we provided photos as a. 00:32:37
What was done up there so we'll. 00:32:43
I think that's what we do. We reach out to them today. 00:32:45
And we just ask KFF. 00:32:49
What's your status? 00:32:50
Are you waiting on anything? 00:32:52
At all. And then to Danny's point, if we can get a fresh e-mail thread going. 00:32:53
For everybody together, because. 00:32:58
For whatever reason, there are two threads going and I don't. 00:33:00
Yeah, it just gets messy when you have it does. 00:33:03
And I don't. Yeah, because I had to print. 00:33:06
Two things out to say, OK. 00:33:08
Yeah, trying to read 1 and respond to another and. 00:33:10
The people are left out of the loop, so I think so. 00:33:13
OK, well thanks for the update. 00:33:16
Mr. Nick, you're back. 00:33:21
So then we have 2026 draft budgets. 00:33:26
Stan Howell helped produce these. He's the CFO for the. 00:33:31
I attach those. 00:33:41
I can tell you some of these are not. 00:33:43
These are trash. 00:33:50
He essentially brought forward all the costs from 2025. 00:33:52
So for fund 4933 stay the same. 00:33:58
5000 for professional, 2500 for missing ideas. 00:34:02
Just brought four of those pounds. 00:34:06
The red wire TIFF. 00:34:09
Debt service. It's 4400. 00:34:11
I believe we can adjust that. 00:34:14
450,000 which is the. 00:34:17
Wire annually. 00:34:22
So that that'll be adjusted, but that goes towards bond. So you're. 00:34:25
Sorry, Nick, are you talking about? 00:34:29
When you say but 4400 budget? 00:34:32
Right now, 4400, it's showing 375. We're showing 375. 00:34:34
Last year. So he just brought it, you're saying? 00:34:40
Change that to what the real it will. 00:34:42
Before 50 I think red wire should be in the building. 00:34:45
OK. 00:34:48
Did I hear correctly that this has to go through the auditor? 00:34:51
Yes. 00:34:56
Yeah. 00:34:57
I think that's new for 26 or should have been. 00:35:00
But will be for 26. Yeah, yeah. 00:35:03
OK. Well, these were all submitted to the auditor and. 00:35:06
Right, well actually Danny, you're on our list for Council review, so you'll be through the. 00:35:11
Similarly, 4509 red wire tiff. 00:35:19
This is the bond proceeds that were in there. 00:35:24
So that will need to be adjusted. Simply will not be. 00:35:28
Issuing a new bond for that. 00:35:33
And we do not have our TIF projection yet. 00:35:36
For that. 00:35:40
So that'll be what that that. 00:35:41
Is adjusted to. 00:35:43
Do you anticipate when things will be updated so we can? 00:35:47
The the bond proceeds. 00:35:53
Is that Tim Berry working on that? Yes, yeah, Crow. 00:35:55
Yeah, I'll get with Crow and discuss all these tips. OK, for new projections. 00:35:59
Correct projections on there. 00:36:05
And you know. 00:36:09
Same for the Edwardsville school. We do know the Highlander. 00:36:10
Point Edwardsville Tip. 00:36:13
We have that as 123. 00:36:16
35 on here currently, but that will be moved up to 180. 00:36:17
2:30. 00:36:22
And we have those in professional services and miscellaneous services. Say that again, Nick on the Highlander, yeah, it'll the 00:36:25
revenue will be 100 and 8230. 00:36:29
Instead of 123. 00:36:34
So that was good. 00:36:38
Yes, OK. 00:36:40
So I'm not there's no action. 00:36:44
Right, but you're going over it with you all. 00:36:47
When when are these? 00:36:50
Budgets. Ballots, what are they are? 00:36:52
Our big meetings August. 00:36:56
We have to finalize everything has to be in by October. 00:36:59
1st I believe. 00:37:02
OK. 00:37:03
Is it October 1st or October 31st? 00:37:04
I think October 1st because we do clean up in September. 00:37:08
So OK. 00:37:12
So we got a little bit of tap at night. 00:37:14
A little bit, yeah. 00:37:16
Yeah, and changes can be made-up until then, but. 00:37:18
Since. 00:37:21
Everything the state handed us, we're we're trying to. 00:37:23
We didn't really do. 00:37:27
A wish list. 00:37:30
Even though it kind of. 00:37:31
Turned into that. 00:37:32
We didn't really do a wish list on the first draft budgets. We said keep them. 00:37:33
This is flat and real as you can. 00:37:37
On everything real budgets, they're still. 00:37:41
Elevated. Our first round came in. 00:37:47
3,000,000 over. 00:37:49
25 so. 00:37:50
There there will be some. 00:37:52
Will be some clean up. 00:37:55
We expect some. 00:37:57
Expected some growth, but. 00:37:58
The biggest offenders will get. 00:38:01
The biggest? 00:38:03
There will be blood, looking glass. There will be blood. There will be. 00:38:04
I'm not sure what will pair it. 00:38:09
Down to but. 00:38:10
There will be. 00:38:12
Lots of. 00:38:13
Red markers. 00:38:15
In those meetings, so. 00:38:17
So on. 00:38:19
Mostly. 00:38:20
This doesn't show everything possibly. 00:38:22
We had a. 00:38:25
A line item with. 00:38:27
An old loan of their own. 00:38:32
Old funds that were in there that came over, I guess from the. 00:38:34
County was doing. 00:38:38
Yes, yeah. We, we don't have the budget for that because we haven't budgeted anything for that. 00:38:40
But there's along with, yeah, there's an amount of money that is not budgeted. 00:38:48
We keep it as non reverting OK. 00:38:53
And the restrictions for that revolving have. 00:38:55
Have lived in so we can use that more liberally. 00:38:59
OK, uh. 00:39:02
Maybe we'll want to see that when we send that out. 00:39:03
We can budget. 00:39:06
We need to decide how we want to eat. 00:39:09
Well, if something comes up with, let's just say this. 00:39:11
The Barn. 00:39:15
Right. That's what I was thinking, yeah. I didn't want to mention it earlier because I don't like to. 00:39:17
Thinking out loud, earlier in the year we did authorize. 00:39:25
I don't remember what it was. 00:39:30
Was $10,000 or so for Certa Pro to do the. 00:39:31
Repair work, right? Yes, right. Yeah. And that's good. I mean, we might be the perfect kind of, right. 00:39:36
Used for that kind of stuff as long as possible. Yeah, yeah, right, right. So anyway, just yeah, just one. 00:39:42
Because that doesn't get replenished. 00:39:48
Right. So that's right. 00:39:50
Not saying not to use it, just. 00:39:53
That's kind of where I'm at. I don't want to. 00:39:55
It's nice to have that, you know? 00:39:58
It kind of can be like the. 00:40:01
Our Redevelopment Commission, rainy day, rainy day, yeah, that's what I would consider it as rainy day for redevelopment provided 00:40:02
to a developer as a loan. 00:40:06
Well, and that was initially, yeah, it was a revolving loan fund to use the tab to. So yes, but if somebody wants to do the barn, 00:40:12
I mean to John Bean's point, yeah, if we. 00:40:17
Entertain that and you put it out for. 00:40:22
Private sector to. 00:40:24
Turn it into something. Yeah, you maybe that's an incentive. 00:40:26
In this you may not be able to answer this, but is it OK to stay in that fund? 00:40:29
Until those funds are exhausted? Or do we need to create a rainy day fund for that? 00:40:34
I think we can leave it in that. 00:40:40
OK, well I wasn't trying to get us confused, I just didn't want to lose sight that. 00:40:43
That's sitting there non regarding was the keyword there so right. 00:40:48
I've got revolving loan, yeah. 00:40:51
It's clear now. 00:40:56
It's kind of treated as a rainy day. 00:40:57
Situation something to that sort of problem earlier like 10. 00:40:59
I got one quick final thing. So make My move reached out. We had an applicant that we approved earlier I think in January. 00:41:06
Elizabeth Miller. 00:41:18
And then she backed out. 00:41:21
And now she's back and would like to go ahead. 00:41:22
She ate the move. 00:41:25
So. 00:41:28
I know in the well I think in the past. 00:41:29
That those applicants. 00:41:32
Don presented them to you all for a final approval. 00:41:34
We have 3 left. 00:41:38
Do we want to continue having that approval? 00:41:40
Here by the board or would you all. 00:41:44
Grant me the ability to send out the approvals. 00:41:47
We have a vetting process. 00:41:52
I feel like an extra step. I'd like to get this thing closed down. 00:41:55
I would make a motion to allow. 00:42:04
Nick to proceed with. 00:42:09
The final step in the acceptance of those last three positions. Last three. 00:42:12
Ever since applicants that are. 00:42:19
Allowed in our program. 00:42:23
Just I'll second that and. 00:42:25
For discussion. 00:42:28
Is there two more in the pipeline? 00:42:29
We have several that have. 00:42:31
That have been. 00:42:33
In a couple, I think 1 is anticipating moving the event. 00:42:35
Do we have a cut? 00:42:38
Well, that's what I mentioned last year. It's like we need to let these folks know our deadline is X, whatever that date needs to 00:42:39
be. I think we can. 00:42:44
I think I can. I have the ability to reach out to these people. End of the calendar year maybe or we need the decision that's the 00:42:48
end of your fiscal year maybe. 00:42:52
Yeah, just October 1. 00:42:57
I will have. 00:43:00
The. 00:43:02
We have not voted. I'm not. 00:43:07
Whether to continue? 00:43:08
Right. Contract, I think I have an assessment of where you're all with it, but I will bring that probably next month to officially 00:43:10
make that decision. 00:43:15
That is all I have. 00:43:23
All right. And before we adjourn, do you have the minutes and all we need to send? 00:43:24
You did OK, so don't leave before we got the Senate. 00:43:29
All right, anything else for the? 00:43:32
If not, I'd entertain a motion, Mr. Bean. 00:43:35
John. 00:43:38
See you back there, sorry. 00:43:40
The as you know the. 00:43:46
Any sprinkler property. 00:43:48
Adjacent to Nab Hill. 00:43:51
And to. 00:43:53
Across the roads from. 00:43:55
Of the park is. 00:43:56
In a of. 00:43:59
Position of transition. I think you call it between. 00:44:00
Family situation and. 00:44:04
For sale, signs, etc. 00:44:06
We proposed several years ago as a community thing for. 00:44:09
The center itself to become a. 00:44:13
A Community Center, part of the Parks Department at that time. 00:44:15
The parks, you know. 00:44:18
Didn't have the dollars and cents and that wasn't part of their five year. 00:44:20
Long range plan, so it's available now. 00:44:24
We as a community. 00:44:27
I live in Nob Hill. 00:44:30
And there's a lot of growth there and there's a lot of growth West of there. 00:44:32
We we would certainly like to see some effort and I understand. 00:44:36
I think it's in the Kip program. 00:44:41
We talked about. 00:44:43
The underground church area. 00:44:44
Of course there. 00:44:47
And I think it is. I'm not for sure but. 00:44:49
We just would like to see it happen with something that's good for the community. 00:44:52
A Community Center. A boys and Girls Club. 00:44:57
Whatever. 00:45:00
A private, empty and Event Center. There's room for limited service hotel. 00:45:01
That's my background, 30 years of it. So there's room for a limited service up. 00:45:06
Quality. 00:45:11
And I know Rich. 00:45:11
And several of the red wire folks have. 00:45:13
Have expressed some. 00:45:16
Potential down the road maybe. 00:45:18
Needing a facility like that at that location. So it could be a combination of an Event Center and a limited service 70 rooms. 00:45:20
We had the opportunity several years ago. The. 00:45:30
Connect with Thornton Thornton Oil. 00:45:33
And do the Ramada Hurstbourne into a Conference Center. 00:45:36
And you can see what that really developed over the years for Jeffersontown in terms of. 00:45:40
New business development and small corporate meetings. 00:45:44
So that's one of the avenues. 00:45:47
A Community Center for the kids. If you go to the neighborhood and see what the neighborhood's growing. 00:45:49
You'll see many, many people. 00:45:55
With youngsters and. 00:45:57
Obviously the school is going to be. 00:45:59
Less than half a mile away are the new middle, middle school and some people. 00:46:02
Second with Floyd so. 00:46:06
I just like to see if there's any type of. 00:46:08
Consideration. 00:46:11
At some point in time. 00:46:12
How redevelop, Intermission or the county could. 00:46:13
It could, you know. 00:46:17
Take a look at it. 00:46:18
And I think it's an opportunity again. 00:46:19
I wish we had done it 5678 years ago when we went through the transition from the church. 00:46:23
Before antibiotic but. 00:46:28
Because of that divorce situation that's going on. 00:46:31
It's up for sale. 00:46:34
Both the underground portion which. 00:46:36
Could be converted to daycare, immediate care center or something of that nature as well. 00:46:39
So I don't know. 00:46:44
Where to start with other than saying? 00:46:46
Someone's I didn't know it was I didn't know it was for sale. 00:46:49
That's interesting. Yeah, well, he did. 00:46:52
He listed with the realtor, but we've got a sort of a gentleman's agreement because we want it for the community. 00:46:55
To do something. 00:47:01
I think. 00:47:04
The Conference Center potential is is there our Community Center as you know it's still got a full court. 00:47:05
Basketball court has got dressing rooms. I mean they could be converted. 00:47:13
For a few dollars secured the roof. 00:47:17
It's a real gym. 00:47:20
It's a real thing. The kids are. You see the parking lot, the kids are there now. 00:47:22
Of course he's had five. 00:47:26
Children that they've grown up and. 00:47:28
Pretty much on the Saturday night you'll see a gymnasium full of youngsters, though my son's usually one of them over there, so 00:47:30
it. 00:47:34
It's an opportunity now. I'd hate to see it converted. I'm pro development but I hate seeing converted to. 00:47:39
Some entity that doesn't fit. 00:47:47
Both. What's going on? 00:47:50
Across the road. 00:47:51
Whole neighborhood so. 00:47:53
Has the church been converted to single family? 00:47:55
No, I think the whole thing is how we use. 00:48:00
I mean, I think they converted it that I'm aware of. 00:48:03
The actual yeah, I'm not either. Was he not living on the property? OK. 00:48:07
So he remodeled. 00:48:12
The like you walk in the gymnasium is fully intact. Got The Walking track around the top? 00:48:14
And then to the right was his living area. 00:48:21
Where the bathrooms? Locker rooms? 00:48:23
He converted that. 00:48:25
'Cause it had classrooms. 00:48:27
Stuff. 00:48:29
Yeah, 8. 00:48:30
Their bedrooms, they are, yeah, it's a full kitchen, so they made that. 00:48:31
What are the long range plans I know Donna discussed in the past? 00:48:36
And something were made and look at the. 00:48:40
Depending on what happens up at the barn. 00:48:42
Is a commercial kitchen. 00:48:45
Through the USDA programs of the Commercial Kitchen program. 00:48:46
Is needed in the area right now the only real commercial kitchen. 00:48:50
Is over in West Louisville. 00:48:54
Where a lot of the vendors go to to cook some of their. 00:48:56
Their product so it could be a multi use. 00:48:59
Type of center as well. That's good to know because it's there. I'm at the. 00:49:03
The exhaust system and storage and. 00:49:08
Power system and any others and any idea on what they're? 00:49:11
Yeah. 00:49:15
There's two sections there. I'm in real estate, so I'm just. 00:49:16
I was curious too. Yeah, OK. I didn't even know it was on the market right there. There's two sections there. The first section 00:49:19
includes the main building. I'm talking about the. 00:49:24
The gymnasium, et cetera. 00:49:29
I think. 00:49:32
3 acres I think, or maybe 3 1/2 with that I believe was the number that is at 1.5. 00:49:34
The lower section. 00:49:41
The bunkers, it's called all concrete. 00:49:43
And it could be built. 00:49:46
But I think that section is. 00:49:48
You know he probably around 1,000,000 for that. 00:49:51
And that's the one that faces the road frontage. It has all the parking and. 00:49:54
We put a trailer down there because we're helping clean up. 00:49:58
For potential, just a community yard sale. 00:50:01
In that area. 00:50:04
Concrete bunkers. I mean, we talked to a couple of youth groups about some of the. 00:50:07
Football Football versions. 00:50:11
That they have where no passing to use. 00:50:14
That is an indoor. 00:50:17
We don't have anything. 00:50:19
Can't use the schools that much during them. 00:50:20
January, February, March. 00:50:23
December SO. 00:50:25
We've talked about using after. 00:50:27
So which which parcel is does the church belong to? Is it belong with the gymnasium? 00:50:29
Or is it belong to the front? 00:50:34
The church owned Olive. 00:50:35
But what? But which? Where's it broken up into the two parcels? 00:50:37
Yeah, Share. If you go up the hill from the concrete bunker area, it goes up around. 00:50:41
A partial of the parking lot. 00:50:50
And of course, you're familiar with the road around. 00:50:52
That section back there. 00:50:56
Is the main building, are the gymnasium so. 00:50:58
And the pool. 00:51:03
As you know, he built a nice pool there and with the shelter house. 00:51:04
I mean, it's ready for a turnkey hotel right there to. 00:51:08
To go up, if you wanted to build 1, which is, we're looking for a developer to do that. 00:51:11
So. 00:51:17
You know, and and there's more property that goes with the underground. 00:51:19
Portion the concrete bumper, then, yeah. 00:51:24
So you said a million for the lower part, did you did you give a price for the gym? 1 1/2 point 2 is 1.2 for that part and one. 00:51:26
He just listed the lower portion when. 00:51:34
Because of some of the family situations going on. 00:51:37
It separated. The lower portion was. 00:51:41
Basically in an LLC, I think ABCDEF, which is all of his kids. 00:51:44
1st and then first initial. 00:51:50
So that's. 00:51:52
Now that is also been signed because they had to get both. 00:51:53
Both parties. 00:51:57
Signed on the. 00:51:58
For sale agreement and I can't think I don't know that the realtor is for sure. 00:51:59
I want to say McMahon. 00:52:05
But. 00:52:08
McMahon, Max McMahon. McMahon. 00:52:10
I'm not for sure, OK. 00:52:13
I mean, I met with them because of our agreement with Daddy. 00:52:15
Our main concern is getting it something done that's good for the community, right? 00:52:19
Sorry to take up all your time, but that's. 00:52:23
It's a pressing issue when it's for sale. 00:52:25
I love apartments. I think it's needed, but I don't want more apartments necessarily going in there. We need something for the 00:52:28
kids. 00:52:32
Thank you. Thank. 00:52:35
Real quick. 00:52:38
There was a motion and a second but no vote on that make my move issue. 00:52:40
Oh, you're right, we didn't have a vote. All those in favor say aye aye. 00:52:44
Thank you, Brad. 00:52:51
Thank you. 00:52:53
All right. Anything else? 00:52:56
If not, we'll entertain a motion to adjourn. 00:52:58
So moved. 00:53:00
Second, second by Al All in favor say aye aye. 00:53:02
We're adjourned. Thank you. Don't forget we have to sign in minutes. 00:53:06
Nick, you had sent out a. 00:53:14
Meeting invite. 00:53:16
Yeah. 00:53:18
Oh, I think I might have updated it. 00:53:21
I want to make sure I wasn't missing one for next month. 00:53:24
Yeah, we in just building #2 over there, I guess, yeah. 00:53:28
Make sure I might miss him. 00:53:34
I'll go and check they're not on the calendar. 00:53:35
Right. Yeah. 00:53:43
I'm I used to not. 00:53:45
Looking down by my calendar but it's so busy right off. 00:53:47
Yeah, yeah. It's not written down. 00:53:50
Yeah that work off 3 different ones. I'm trying to merge them but. 00:53:53
Yeah, what I'll. 00:54:02
Either you or I, one of us reach out to KPFF. Just confirm do they have what they need. 00:54:04
And you know. 00:54:11
Brenda, did you stop recording? 00:54:12
Yeah, you can stop recording. 00:54:18
I got it. Now we just want to make sure I just. 00:54:21
Because there's been two different threads going out, so OK. 00:54:25
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Tell us, Brendan, whenever you're ready. 00:00:01
OK. And I think. 00:00:05
Brad Striegel's gonna try to join us via Teams. He just texted me just a minute ago. And then. 00:00:08
Our attorney cannot make it today. He got stuck. 00:00:14
In an airport. 00:00:18
Last night and he's trying to get home. 00:00:19
This morning. 00:00:22
I think Brad might be on teams. Brad, are you? Can you hear us? 00:00:23
Yes, I'm here, all right. 00:00:30
OK, we're going to call the meeting to order. 00:00:31
Roll call, please. We can hear. We can hear you. Can you hear us? 00:00:36
Right. 00:00:41
The dark side of the moon. 00:00:46
I'll tell him it'll take. 00:00:50
He's rejoining or something like that. 00:00:54
Used to have a phone on the desk and you hit the, you dial somebody up and yes, yeah. 00:01:05
Our youngest is in London. 00:01:11
Stolen the other day and just trying to have a backup communication. It's like, it's crazy, Yeah. 00:01:13
Yeah. 00:01:18
And there are no Verizon stores open. 00:01:22
Vodafone or something like that. 00:01:25
Replace Verizon was great, they within three hours and said. 00:01:27
Set it up and. 00:01:33
Just went down to UPS well. 00:01:35
UPS was. 00:01:37
200 bucks, Yeah, the phone was 200 after insurance today. I had to pay a tariff this morning for like 240 bucks because it was 00:01:38
being held up at the. 00:01:43
There's $1000 phone. Yeah, yeah. 00:01:48
Do you like me to take Venmo? 00:01:52
To my Venmo, Sir. 00:01:54
He said. I think he's in. 00:01:56
He says the audio is very low on his end. 00:01:59
No, I got you. 00:02:06
I mean, I could. 00:02:10
He called me on my phone or something on speaker. 00:02:11
Yeah, just having calling in on a cell phone if he wants to. 00:02:16
You want me to just. 00:02:21
I can call him. 00:02:23
OK. 00:02:24
We'll count it. 00:02:27
Hey, are you OK? I'll just put you on my speakerphone. 00:02:33
Is that all right? 00:02:36
You should be able to hear all of us. 00:02:37
Floor of us here so. 00:02:39
OK. 00:02:40
You know, just set it over there. 00:02:41
Yeah, what you said here in the middle of us. 00:02:43
Yeah, I know. That's OK. 00:02:44
Have patience, we're this is our first. 00:02:48
Uh. 00:02:51
We have a trace of replacement here. 00:02:52
She's baptized by fire. 00:02:55
It'll take a long time to get used to that system because it's it's got. 00:03:00
A couple issues. 00:03:03
OK, umm. 00:03:04
We're gonna. 00:03:05
Call the meeting to Order of the Flood Can Redevelop Commission. 00:03:06
For Tuesday, July 15th. 00:03:10
Brenda, if you want to do a roll call. 00:03:12
Here. 00:03:16
Here. 00:03:19
Here here. 00:03:21
Here. 00:03:24
Yeah, Brad's here via remote and let the record show that our attorney could not make it today. 00:03:27
He got, like I said, he got stuck on a. 00:03:34
Traveling, trying to get, trying to get home so. 00:03:37
So if any legal matters come up, we have to defer that. 00:03:40
Yeah, she is not here. Melanie. Absolute so. 00:03:45
All right. First item of business is the minutes and claims. 00:03:48
Hopefully you had a chance to look at it and entertain a motion to approve the minutes. 00:03:53
From uh. 00:03:58
June 17. 00:04:00
So moved second motion by all 6 by Danny. You need discussion on those. 00:04:01
All in favor say aye aye. 00:04:08
Right, right. OK, Breads and I. 00:04:10
Second item is we have one. 00:04:14
Claim. I think we have one. 00:04:17
Well, I'm sorry, wait a minute. We have one more set of minutes to approve. We have an executive session on June 17th. 00:04:19
I'd entertain a motion. 00:04:26
To approve. 00:04:27
Those minutes to allow me to sign those minutes along with the secretary. 00:04:29
So moved second. 00:04:33
All in favor say aye aye. 00:04:37
All right, all right. 00:04:39
OK. And we have one claim. 00:04:41
From Young. 00:04:43
I think that's been missing. Yeah, it was an Amber Alert, like I got that a minute ago. 00:04:45
We have one claim from Young Lynn interesting craft is the. 00:04:59
The amount of $575 for his attorney services for the board. 00:05:02
I entertain a motion to approve that claim. 00:05:07
So move second. 00:05:09
Motion by Rich, second by Al. 00:05:11
All in favor say aye aye. 00:05:13
Motion carries, OK. 00:05:16
Public comments, I think both of you guys. 00:05:19
Here on both all of you guys. 00:05:21
Yeah, we have agenda. You guys are on the agenda, so. 00:05:24
All right, so. 00:05:27
New business. 00:05:29
Go ahead, Nick. 00:05:31
So no Nova Park is item A. 00:05:34
The first item under Nova Park, we have an allowance adjustment #2 for the red wire portion of the building. 00:05:37
Allowance adjustment for this request is $8519. 00:05:48
Few miscellaneous items. Coat hooks. 00:05:54
Plumbing fixtures. 00:05:58
We asked them to do some changes to their erosion control and their guardrail work. 00:06:01
Their signage. 00:06:07
And then there was a section of the electrical to go back to the back lot. 00:06:09
There was a lot of rock there, and it was. 00:06:14
Might be a good idea and. 00:06:17
Not to do that portion now would probably. 00:06:18
Costs a lot more. So we just took that out. So we had that change order adjustment there. 00:06:21
That was just for future growth, right? Yes, yeah. 00:06:26
I just had a question on the guardrail. We work that. 00:06:32
So we initially it was further right off of the lamp and. 00:06:35
On the department, Ask them. 00:06:40
Short. Shorten it. Oh. 00:06:44
OK. 00:06:46
What did? 00:06:47
I think in meeting with the fire department out there. 00:06:50
Discussions about that, the location of the OK. 00:06:55
Might give it a minute. 00:07:02
Brad probably can't hear us. 00:07:03
All right, OK. 00:07:08
Any other questions on? 00:07:10
On this. 00:07:12
It's going to go crazy and. 00:07:15
They definitely hit your attention. 00:07:20
If there's no other questions, I would entertain a motion to actually no. 00:07:24
So this will, yeah, I would recommend this to the Commission. 00:07:29
Yeah, we would recommend. 00:07:33
Approval of. 00:07:34
Violence number 2 so entertain a motion to recommend approval of allowance #2 to the Commissioner. 00:07:36
So moved. 00:07:42
Motion by Danny. 00:07:43
Second Second by Al. 00:07:45
All in favor say aye aye. 00:07:47
Brad, can you hear us? 00:07:51
Still, we have that on tonight. 00:07:52
OK. Thank you, Sir. 00:07:57
The next item I was hoping Justin would be here. We will work on this. 00:08:00
Yeah. 00:08:04
For the lease agreement, for the lease agreement, we had some question about SO. 00:08:06
Part of the bond payment was reliant. 00:08:11
On the property tax revenue? 00:08:15
For the structure. 00:08:19
IUS is a tax exempt. 00:08:21
So yeah. 00:08:24
That would be. 00:08:25
Hit Justin's estimate would decrease the revenue there by $16,000. 00:08:26
Annually. 00:08:33
So we were. 00:08:35
Needing to update the lease agreement. 00:08:38
And I guess I would look for some direction if we want to. 00:08:42
Ask for that. 00:08:46
My US or. 00:08:48
Well, weren't we also going back and forth with? 00:08:52
Because you and I met with, I can't remember the gentleman's name. 00:08:56
Without us. 00:08:59
Always if he was without you. 00:09:00
He represented their couch. 00:09:03
Anyway, we met. 00:09:07
To go through the lease agreement. 00:09:08
And I thought they were drafting revisions, right? Yes, they were drafting revisions. And there this was just kind of an 00:09:10
outstanding item that came from that discussion. OK. 00:09:15
OK, ah. 00:09:20
I would think we could ask for it. 00:09:23
And see where that leads. I mean, it's lost revenue. 00:09:25
For us. 00:09:29
I don't know. I think that. 00:09:32
We're we're, we're building an $800,000. 00:09:35
It's a nice. 00:09:39
Amenity for them and. 00:09:41
I know they were. 00:09:43
Expecting no payment. 00:09:44
For it, but we're customizing it. 00:09:46
Based on their needs so. 00:09:49
That would be my fault. 00:09:51
So I don't know that we need to take action. I don't think there's action that direction. 00:09:55
To justice. 00:10:00
I think it $1300 a month. That's a bargain. 00:10:01
It is really and it's customized space, right? I mean it's. 00:10:04
So that's all I have for that item. 00:10:10
The next item is the barn update. 00:10:13
So I think it was last meeting. 00:10:16
Ruben discussed. 00:10:18
Cowborne Foundation. It looked like it had come off the foundation. 00:10:20
Pretty good amount and. 00:10:25
Think it came up after the fact when we had a storm. 00:10:27
Yeah, and. 00:10:31
Mr. Lot. 00:10:34
Advised us that Mister John Beams had. 00:10:38
Rights, material, if we were to do anything with the structure. I reached out to him. 00:10:41
He he can speak to that, his reaction to that, but he informed me that. 00:10:51
The agreement. 00:10:56
We have we have a development agreement. 00:10:57
On that structure. 00:11:00
With historic. 00:11:02
Indian historic landmarks. 00:11:04
Umm, to. 00:11:07
Maintain. 00:11:08
That structure I included the development agreement in your own packet. I think it. 00:11:09
At the end. 00:11:17
5. 00:11:20
To preserve and maintain in perpetuity. 00:11:22
The structures so. 00:11:25
I think we'll have to change our plan we were considering. 00:11:29
Yeah, taking that down, they are here. 00:11:32
Wanted to be here to speak on to this item so. 00:11:35
I guess the challenge we're going to have is figuring out. 00:11:38
How do you? 00:11:41
How do we? 00:11:43
Where do we find the money to do that? 00:11:45
If we. 00:11:47
Do we have an estimate on that? 00:11:48
I think it was a structural concern. 00:11:51
On the foundation side. 00:11:53
We don't, right? We haven't gotten it right. Initially it was going to be part of the ready monies, right? 00:11:56
And that was pulled back because we needed it. Yeah, we. 00:12:02
Everything went over budget. What was the original intent for the use of that structure? 00:12:07
Well. 00:12:13
It has morphed overtime. It was going to be a cold. 00:12:15
At one time we looked at lab space. 00:12:21
And then we talked about maybe it'll just be an event space. 00:12:23
Maybe it could be some kind of? 00:12:27
We didn't. We didn't have a final vision. It was it had changed. 00:12:30
Overtime. 00:12:35
In discussions with Red Wire not to pick on. 00:12:36
You know, but it discusses with Red Wire and others. 00:12:38
Could it be an entrepreneurial incubator space? 00:12:41
We did. We never settled. We talked about the one that's. 00:12:45
By the silo or the. 00:12:48
The basketball court, Yeah, yeah. 00:12:52
Yeah, I thought it was closer to the workspace. 00:12:55
Yeah, I warned about the house. 00:12:58
OK. 00:13:00
That's right, it's the one by the house. 00:13:02
So. 00:13:06
Yeah. 00:13:07
We never settled on. 00:13:09
What the final? 00:13:11
Use would be. 00:13:13
And then it's it's. 00:13:15
Nick alluded to. 00:13:16
As budgets became. 00:13:18
More apparent. 00:13:21
Actual costs became more apparent on them. 00:13:22
Red wire building. 00:13:25
Development. 00:13:27
We had to focus all of our funding there. I mean, we. 00:13:28
We have no. 00:13:31
We couldn't turn back. We had to. 00:13:33
We had to focus on that. 00:13:35
Can we get? 00:13:37
Can we get estimates to just to shore it up? 00:13:39
And then, yeah, that would be our next step. And then maybe we can roll that cost, yeah. 00:13:41
Correct way to do that consistent with. 00:13:48
And I don't know, umm, uh. 00:13:51
If you all want to speak to that, maybe there's some funds out there somewhere that we could. 00:13:52
Sorry, Greg, I don't. I don't want to put you on the spot. Yeah. 00:13:58
I mean, maybe there's. 00:14:01
There, there may be some opportunities out there. As you know, the grant climate right now is just very uncertain on every level. 00:14:06
Things that we've relied on historically are. 00:14:12
In question right now, so it's hard to tell. 00:14:18
I know at one time we had talked about. 00:14:21
That ship may have sailed. 00:14:25
You know, I added. 00:14:27
Recommended to die that they investigate kind of National Register listing for the farmstead because if it were on the register 00:14:28
that would open up. 00:14:32
Some funding through the state's Historic Preservation Fund. 00:14:37
Which is federal money, that's. 00:14:40
Trickle down to the states for preservation projects, and nonprofits and governmental entities are able to tap into that money. 00:14:42
Which includes bricks and mortar work. 00:14:50
But the caveat is it's got to be listed on the National Register in order to to qualify. 00:14:52
So that funding source is not available unfortunately at this point. 00:14:58
You know, there may be some other opportunities. I think as Nick said, the first step is to kind of get a. 00:15:03
You know, a plan together for at least stabilization. 00:15:09
You know, I recognize monies right now tight on all levels. So, you know, if it's a matter of just kind of stabilizing it and 00:15:13
mothballing it. 00:15:17
Until future opportunities arise and a use can be found that makes sense for the building, yeah, we're certainly amenable to that. 00:15:21
We're not saying you have to do a complete restoration at this point. 00:15:26
The important thing is to try to maintain and at least keep the building there. 00:15:32
And I think that's what we'll do, Nick, if we can get someone. 00:15:36
You know, give us that, I mean. 00:15:40
I'm not structural. I don't want to pretend to know. 00:15:42
What would have to be done? 00:15:45
I don't know. 00:15:47
Yeah, it would be nice. There's there's. 00:15:48
There are folks out there that can do that kind of work, right? 00:15:51
And I know in the past I've given nonsense names, but glad to share those with Nick and and we have that. 00:15:54
I think they actually looked at the structure once or twice. 00:16:01
I'm not sure. I know the other barn was looked at at one. OK, maybe it's the other one I'm thinking of. There's a gentleman out 00:16:04
of. 00:16:07
Illinois named Rick Collins, who I think had been assaulted at one point. There's a. 00:16:11
Schwartz family up in northern Indiana. There they specialize in barn. 00:16:17
Administration, I think I'm thinking of Shorts. OK, yeah, because he had a proposal for, but it was probably the other building. I 00:16:22
think it was the other barn at the time. 00:16:27
If if the property was registered. 00:16:33
Historic would that. 00:16:36
Pare down the used. 00:16:37
Used for the barn, it doesn't affect per se the use. It does open up grant funding, of course, if you apply for grant funding 00:16:39
under a program that's focused on historic. 00:16:44
They're going to want to approve a plan and and make sure that the work that you're doing is consistent with preservation 00:16:50
standards. 00:16:53
But as I said, right now it's just sort of. 00:16:58
There's a lot of uncertainty about any of these programs. 00:17:01
Gotcha. Well, I think that's our next step. We just. 00:17:07
See what we're dealing with? 00:17:10
It looks like contractually we at least have to mitigate against. 00:17:11
Further damage. 00:17:15
Right. You know, and just, you know, for background that commitment grew out of. 00:17:17
We donated land to the county for. 00:17:23
Nova part for the bridge crossing and sort of in lieu of. 00:17:27
Payment, we kind of negotiated some terms and that's where that preservation commitment came out of was that. 00:17:31
Effort to donate that land for the bridge overpass? Sure. 00:17:38
Yeah, no. 00:17:41
I think we'll we'll. 00:17:43
See what we get out of. 00:17:45
I'm John Beams, previous owner of the property. Thank you for the opportunity to be here and. 00:17:46
Connection with Nick and Don has been. 00:17:52
Fantastic. 00:17:56
From the Beam family. 00:17:57
Of course we're emotional. 00:17:59
So you're gonna see it. 00:18:01
To make sure it's maintained. 00:18:03
My question I guess is. 00:18:05
Would you consider? 00:18:07
Some type of. 00:18:10
Least triple net lease to a private entity. 00:18:11
It might come in. 00:18:15
You know, and set it up as a wedding venue, our function center like they have out in Palmyra or something like that. So just a 00:18:16
question, I'm not saying. 00:18:21
I have one available. 00:18:26
But we would certainly do that due diligence to. 00:18:27
Maybe even get a corporate sponsor to put their name on it. It won't be Papa John's. 00:18:32
But if you understand what I'm saying, something of that nature. 00:18:37
For consideration that we could get. 00:18:42
Public. 00:18:45
Public exposure for events Center. 00:18:46
I know Nick and Don and I talked about across the road for the potential growth over there with what's happening with. 00:18:50
Premier Homes and everything there. 00:18:57
So I think there's, I think there's room for. 00:19:00
A little bit different type of entity. 00:19:03
Facility or venue? 00:19:06
That would workout to the country setting that's there. 00:19:08
And also, you know. 00:19:12
Individual meeting, but. 00:19:14
Upstairs and you know that facility, you know there's a full court, not full court, half court, basketball court up there. 00:19:16
That could be used for. 00:19:22
Certain thing and as a private entity. 00:19:25
We don't have as many maybe restrictions that's required by. 00:19:28
The county so just. 00:19:34
Wanted to see if we could put that on some discussion point. 00:19:36
To see whether or not it would even be considered as. 00:19:40
A triple net type of program or whatever. 00:19:43
Mechanism. 00:19:46
Might work. 00:19:48
For some individuals, and we have a lot of people interested, you know, that was a Yellow Line purchase. 00:19:49
Development that you know my family for years wouldn't was first established. 00:19:55
So there is some historic. 00:20:00
Aspect of the property and with what red wire is doing and the growth. 00:20:02
And and what the root is doing with the building and the additional building there. 00:20:08
We. We would certainly. 00:20:13
Create some energy. 00:20:15
From the private sector to see what could be done with that type of arrangement for shared parking. 00:20:17
And we understand there's guidelines and restrictions that. 00:20:23
We would have to deal with with some type of lease program like that, but. 00:20:27
Just a question that. 00:20:31
Perhaps it could be added, and I don't know whether that changes any grant programs. 00:20:33
Whether it's a lease program. 00:20:37
Or whether it's a property owned program in some cases. 00:20:39
You have to own the property to get the grant. 00:20:42
But that doesn't mean we couldn't go to some foundations. 00:20:45
It does not have as many restrictions. 00:20:48
I, you know, Caesars Foundation. 00:20:52
Like they. 00:20:54
Of supported other programs and. 00:20:55
In the whole community and. 00:20:58
We'd like to have their involvement up our way as well. 00:21:00
I think question great option. 00:21:04
So the direction I have there is all looking. 00:21:09
Yeah, getting some. 00:21:11
Quotes to shore up the building? Yes please. Structurally, thanks. 00:21:12
And I will. 00:21:17
Time to get those hands been discussed with Morrissey's, Yeah, I don't think inflating some rays or something, yeah. 00:21:19
What we'll talk about. 00:21:26
I had. I do have one more Noble Park item to add here real quick. 00:21:29
Spoke with Nick Lawrence. 00:21:32
Earlier this week, he's working on the RFP process. He suggested forming a working group to help. 00:21:35
Facilitate that kind of as an iterative. 00:21:43
Get it out. Yeah, yeah. 00:21:46
So I guess I'd like to gauge your all's interest on. 00:21:48
Want to be involved? 00:21:52
Well, we want you on there for sure. She's yeah. 00:21:54
Who on the? 00:21:58
3.6 has time. 00:21:59
I don't think it'd be a heavy lift, but it would take. 00:22:05
When you don't want the teacher to call on you, like the RFP for Noble Park. 00:22:10
The warrants completely suggested having just a small working group to kind of. 00:22:16
Work through the details. 00:22:21
Request. 00:22:23
Yeah, what it would look like before we send it out RP like for the outlines or for the for the whole park? 00:22:24
For for, yeah. 00:22:29
To help spur interest. 00:22:31
To develop the park, yeah, I can look that over with you. I'm just I've got a really busy. 00:22:33
3-4 weeks coming up but. 00:22:38
I will definitely be on it. 00:22:41
If I get one other person to definitely be on it and then we can whoever can be available. 00:22:43
Brad, did you hear any of that? 00:22:50
OK, I mean, I can definitely. 00:22:54
Help out with that and we. 00:22:56
We can do it before or after some of our other meetings out here, but so Brad, we have the Wheatley group. 00:22:58
Working on. 00:23:04
Preparing an overall request for proposal. 00:23:05
To send out. 00:23:08
To gauge to get interest in Nova Park. 00:23:11
And looking for some. 00:23:14
Folks off of this? 00:23:18
Board to help. 00:23:19
Review that with. 00:23:21
Weekly so they can. 00:23:23
Bouncing ideas off of us before they present the final RFP. 00:23:24
I was going to look it over. I mean I I can do the same. 00:23:30
I mean, that's kind of my world, so. 00:23:32
I don't mind looking at it. We don't need a commitment now. I can send an e-mail out. 00:23:35
Send one out, we'll see who's. 00:23:40
OK. And he had an additional question, I guess someone approached them with some interest of? 00:23:41
I can manage data center. 00:23:47
And what is it? An edge status? It's like small data center. 00:23:49
To locate. 00:23:54
Small scale 88 to 10 acre data center. 00:23:55
Oh, OK. 00:23:59
And wanted to know if that fit with. 00:24:00
Duke has been hard enough to get out there, now it's good. 00:24:03
Sucks up a lot of power, yeah. 00:24:07
If they want to support it. 00:24:09
Yeah, we'd have to get Duke out there. 00:24:11
I think we just need to see a few details on. 00:24:12
Yeah, I mean. 00:24:15
Then generate a lot of people but. 00:24:17
Now any update on the? 00:24:19
Aviation center we're meeting is after we're meeting with the child. 00:24:22
Today after this so. 00:24:28
We'll see what see what he brings up, but. 00:24:31
All right, moving on. 00:24:35
If I may. 00:24:38
Oh yeah, to Edwardville School. 00:24:39
The roof evaluation update. 00:24:42
We had a meeting scheduled with KPFF. 00:24:45
The sprinklers. 00:24:50
Alan Age, The Architects. 00:24:52
And uh. 00:24:54
One of the roofing company that did some of the work lines roofing. 00:24:56
On site. 00:25:01
The sprinklers were not able to make that meeting. 00:25:02
But mines roofing. 00:25:06
And I think they got. 00:25:08
Information. 00:25:10
Back and forth with KPFF. 00:25:12
To have some understanding of what they would need to do to shore up. 00:25:14
The structure. 00:25:18
But I'm not sure if and that's why I asked the spriglers to come and kind of. 00:25:19
Give us an update of the status of that roof, their communications with KPFF. 00:25:23
And when we can have this roof secured? 00:25:29
And ready to transfer. 00:25:33
Yeah, and I saw the emails. 00:25:34
Between. 00:25:37
Lions and KPFS so it looks like. 00:25:37
Lyons has a clear understanding of the upper roof. 00:25:41
Which is the portion they worked on. 00:25:44
If I'm reading everything correctly. 00:25:47
And they're waiting on a. 00:25:50
Some type of. 00:25:51
Fastener detail I guess from KPFF. 00:25:52
To make. 00:25:56
Whatever corrective. 00:25:57
Measures are needed to the upper roof. Yeah, lower roof. 00:25:58
They did. 00:26:02
They didn't have anything to say on that. Yeah, there's some details that the sprinklers need to provide for the lower, for the 00:26:03
lower roof and I think under the decking. 00:26:07
OK, underneath the upper route. 00:26:12
So I asked them to come and give us an update if they've been there before that time. 00:26:15
So did that meeting take place? 00:26:19
Before or after? 00:26:21
The letter went out from. 00:26:24
Our attorney on that. 00:26:26
So our attorney. 00:26:28
So we never sent a letter. 00:26:29
Right, because we had this meeting scheduled, OK. 00:26:31
So that the man letter never went out. 00:26:36
Right, OK. 00:26:38
We may need to revisit. 00:26:41
But I would ask that. 00:26:43
The sprinklers come up and give an update on. 00:26:45
The roof status. 00:26:47
And they're scheduled to make the necessary corrections. 00:26:49
OK. 00:26:54
I apologize, we were. 00:26:56
Able to be at the meeting last Wednesday. 00:27:00
Unfortunately, I have on my schedule and Cody had an accident. 00:27:03
Statistically, A firework accident. 00:27:06
During 4th July, so all fingers still actually in the hospital for several days. So I apologize for that, but. 00:27:09
We have been in contact with KPFF as of yesterday, actually trading emails this morning. 00:27:16
And we're getting them the information that. 00:27:21
We did on. 00:27:23
So the lower part. 00:27:24
We we did the we demoed the. 00:27:26
The roofs, the concrete and put new plywood. 00:27:29
There's some we're getting information on that, but. 00:27:31
Lions did come in and do the. 00:27:34
Do the remaining part of the roof so. 00:27:36
Like I shared an e-mail, we'll do whatever we need to do to get this resolved. We're not trying to. 00:27:39
Anything in Lyons is a really reputable company. 00:27:44
And so. 00:27:47
What really waiting to hear back from KPFF what we need to do or what should be done with this. 00:27:49
I even thought, do we need to get another in? 00:27:54
Maybe get some? 00:27:57
Maybe we can engineer to to look at. I don't know, I don't. 00:27:58
Because I just my talks with them a little bit. 00:28:00
They have. They had to go back and look. So I don't know if there's somebody that actually specializes in roofing like this on a 00:28:03
historic building. That might be something I can ask. 00:28:06
I just want to make sure it's done right. So whatever we need to do to do that, we will. So I think Chad if. 00:28:13
The last I saw. 00:28:19
From Lions back to KPFF or vice versa. 00:28:21
I think EPF is supposed to be giving them a detail, right? Yes, Yeah. So they're. 00:28:25
They said they were. 00:28:30
They're working on so we we did hold some monies out on. 00:28:31
On lines, probably not as much as it's going to take, but I do know that they're going to warranty or whatever they need to do. 00:28:35
Now on the lower part, if we got to take it, that's something that we have to eat on the plywood then we'll we'll we'll take care 00:28:39
of that ourselves so. 00:28:44
OK. Do you did they give you maybe we need to follow up with KPFF, did they give any indication of? 00:28:49
When they'll have that detail ready for the upper roof. 00:28:58
And then on the lower Europe? 00:29:00
Are you guys providing them more, more information on that? So we actually had photos. 00:29:02
We demoed and we. 00:29:07
Got that from our contractor. So we're supplying those two. Are you with your schedule on that? I'm just trying to. 00:29:08
I mean, we got to stay. I mean the. 00:29:19
With PFF, I feel like they're so busy that kind of can't stay on. I mean the step on the lower roof. 00:29:21
You're yeah, you provided that back to. 00:29:27
Yeah, so KPF has everything they need at this point. 00:29:31
From our part, yes, I don't know on the Lions part of it, We try to call them before this meeting when they will catch up, I 00:29:33
guess. Nick, we. 00:29:37
Reach back at the KPFF and say OK do you need anything additional? 00:29:40
To finish your analysis. 00:29:45
Right, OK. 00:29:47
I think the main issue is this is being drawn out with you. 00:29:49
Yeah, we want closure. 00:29:53
Answers immediately. 00:29:55
So we can move on to the next step. 00:29:58
Because we want to be done with. 00:30:06
And I know everybody does. We want to be. 00:30:08
Closed on the deal. 00:30:10
Also gives an update on our project too, so gateway we're. 00:30:11
Leaders were setting trusses on our. 00:30:15
4th building on Thursday. I mean at this time next year. 00:30:17
We plan to be moving people in so. 00:30:20
We want to get you guys going this building more than anything because. 00:30:23
Time we get wrapped up, we want this whole development to be wrapped up, so. 00:30:26
But yeah, the project looks great. We're starting the 5th building. 00:30:31
Frameworks were scheduled I think next week for that, so. 00:30:35
Good. So I think to Nick's point. 00:30:39
Chad, the sooner we can get. 00:30:42
Schedule back. 00:30:45
Once I mean KPFF I know owes you a detail. 00:30:47
Yeah, once they get that back to you, we're gonna. 00:30:50
We're going to need a real schedule, right? 00:30:53
When can we close this out? Because we're we are trying to get this, yeah. 00:30:56
Are the are the emails consolidated so everybody's on it? Well, it's what's weird. 00:31:00
I did not get that e-mail. 00:31:09
Nick, if you respond, can we kind of? 00:31:18
Group everybody in on one going forward and yeah, so it's because everybody's on that one maybe. Yeah, well, and it's kind of 00:31:22
like. 00:31:25
We didn't think they were responding, but they did a few weeks ago for some reason. It might be on our end. We're not getting 00:31:28
them. 00:31:31
We're not. We included. Am I included on that e-mail? You and Cody, you and Cody are. 00:31:34
On there, we've been getting stuff from George. 00:31:38
As I said earlier today, so so it's. 00:31:41
Yeah, from my Kyle lines and it's got. 00:31:44
Cory on there, Cody. 00:31:46
Yourself so OK. 00:31:48
Hopefully. 00:31:50
For Lyons seems to be now. 00:31:51
It was hard getting them back out there, but now? 00:31:54
Like they're engaged. 00:31:57
See that then he gets this resolved so. 00:31:58
So I think Nick, once we get. 00:32:01
Confirmation that KPF has everything they need. 00:32:04
Need to get a schedule. How soon can they get their recommendations back on corrective measures? 00:32:07
And then? 00:32:12
Get the schedule of. When will it be correct? 00:32:13
Are fixed or finished whatever you want to call. 00:32:16
That I sense that. 00:32:21
The lower roof was a little bit more in question. 00:32:23
Maybe that there were there was a clear there there were clear corrective measures to the upper roof, right I I think. 00:32:25
The lower. 00:32:33
Right. 00:32:35
There are some questions. That's what I understood too from because we provided photos as a. 00:32:37
What was done up there so we'll. 00:32:43
I think that's what we do. We reach out to them today. 00:32:45
And we just ask KFF. 00:32:49
What's your status? 00:32:50
Are you waiting on anything? 00:32:52
At all. And then to Danny's point, if we can get a fresh e-mail thread going. 00:32:53
For everybody together, because. 00:32:58
For whatever reason, there are two threads going and I don't. 00:33:00
Yeah, it just gets messy when you have it does. 00:33:03
And I don't. Yeah, because I had to print. 00:33:06
Two things out to say, OK. 00:33:08
Yeah, trying to read 1 and respond to another and. 00:33:10
The people are left out of the loop, so I think so. 00:33:13
OK, well thanks for the update. 00:33:16
Mr. Nick, you're back. 00:33:21
So then we have 2026 draft budgets. 00:33:26
Stan Howell helped produce these. He's the CFO for the. 00:33:31
I attach those. 00:33:41
I can tell you some of these are not. 00:33:43
These are trash. 00:33:50
He essentially brought forward all the costs from 2025. 00:33:52
So for fund 4933 stay the same. 00:33:58
5000 for professional, 2500 for missing ideas. 00:34:02
Just brought four of those pounds. 00:34:06
The red wire TIFF. 00:34:09
Debt service. It's 4400. 00:34:11
I believe we can adjust that. 00:34:14
450,000 which is the. 00:34:17
Wire annually. 00:34:22
So that that'll be adjusted, but that goes towards bond. So you're. 00:34:25
Sorry, Nick, are you talking about? 00:34:29
When you say but 4400 budget? 00:34:32
Right now, 4400, it's showing 375. We're showing 375. 00:34:34
Last year. So he just brought it, you're saying? 00:34:40
Change that to what the real it will. 00:34:42
Before 50 I think red wire should be in the building. 00:34:45
OK. 00:34:48
Did I hear correctly that this has to go through the auditor? 00:34:51
Yes. 00:34:56
Yeah. 00:34:57
I think that's new for 26 or should have been. 00:35:00
But will be for 26. Yeah, yeah. 00:35:03
OK. Well, these were all submitted to the auditor and. 00:35:06
Right, well actually Danny, you're on our list for Council review, so you'll be through the. 00:35:11
Similarly, 4509 red wire tiff. 00:35:19
This is the bond proceeds that were in there. 00:35:24
So that will need to be adjusted. Simply will not be. 00:35:28
Issuing a new bond for that. 00:35:33
And we do not have our TIF projection yet. 00:35:36
For that. 00:35:40
So that'll be what that that. 00:35:41
Is adjusted to. 00:35:43
Do you anticipate when things will be updated so we can? 00:35:47
The the bond proceeds. 00:35:53
Is that Tim Berry working on that? Yes, yeah, Crow. 00:35:55
Yeah, I'll get with Crow and discuss all these tips. OK, for new projections. 00:35:59
Correct projections on there. 00:36:05
And you know. 00:36:09
Same for the Edwardsville school. We do know the Highlander. 00:36:10
Point Edwardsville Tip. 00:36:13
We have that as 123. 00:36:16
35 on here currently, but that will be moved up to 180. 00:36:17
2:30. 00:36:22
And we have those in professional services and miscellaneous services. Say that again, Nick on the Highlander, yeah, it'll the 00:36:25
revenue will be 100 and 8230. 00:36:29
Instead of 123. 00:36:34
So that was good. 00:36:38
Yes, OK. 00:36:40
So I'm not there's no action. 00:36:44
Right, but you're going over it with you all. 00:36:47
When when are these? 00:36:50
Budgets. Ballots, what are they are? 00:36:52
Our big meetings August. 00:36:56
We have to finalize everything has to be in by October. 00:36:59
1st I believe. 00:37:02
OK. 00:37:03
Is it October 1st or October 31st? 00:37:04
I think October 1st because we do clean up in September. 00:37:08
So OK. 00:37:12
So we got a little bit of tap at night. 00:37:14
A little bit, yeah. 00:37:16
Yeah, and changes can be made-up until then, but. 00:37:18
Since. 00:37:21
Everything the state handed us, we're we're trying to. 00:37:23
We didn't really do. 00:37:27
A wish list. 00:37:30
Even though it kind of. 00:37:31
Turned into that. 00:37:32
We didn't really do a wish list on the first draft budgets. We said keep them. 00:37:33
This is flat and real as you can. 00:37:37
On everything real budgets, they're still. 00:37:41
Elevated. Our first round came in. 00:37:47
3,000,000 over. 00:37:49
25 so. 00:37:50
There there will be some. 00:37:52
Will be some clean up. 00:37:55
We expect some. 00:37:57
Expected some growth, but. 00:37:58
The biggest offenders will get. 00:38:01
The biggest? 00:38:03
There will be blood, looking glass. There will be blood. There will be. 00:38:04
I'm not sure what will pair it. 00:38:09
Down to but. 00:38:10
There will be. 00:38:12
Lots of. 00:38:13
Red markers. 00:38:15
In those meetings, so. 00:38:17
So on. 00:38:19
Mostly. 00:38:20
This doesn't show everything possibly. 00:38:22
We had a. 00:38:25
A line item with. 00:38:27
An old loan of their own. 00:38:32
Old funds that were in there that came over, I guess from the. 00:38:34
County was doing. 00:38:38
Yes, yeah. We, we don't have the budget for that because we haven't budgeted anything for that. 00:38:40
But there's along with, yeah, there's an amount of money that is not budgeted. 00:38:48
We keep it as non reverting OK. 00:38:53
And the restrictions for that revolving have. 00:38:55
Have lived in so we can use that more liberally. 00:38:59
OK, uh. 00:39:02
Maybe we'll want to see that when we send that out. 00:39:03
We can budget. 00:39:06
We need to decide how we want to eat. 00:39:09
Well, if something comes up with, let's just say this. 00:39:11
The Barn. 00:39:15
Right. That's what I was thinking, yeah. I didn't want to mention it earlier because I don't like to. 00:39:17
Thinking out loud, earlier in the year we did authorize. 00:39:25
I don't remember what it was. 00:39:30
Was $10,000 or so for Certa Pro to do the. 00:39:31
Repair work, right? Yes, right. Yeah. And that's good. I mean, we might be the perfect kind of, right. 00:39:36
Used for that kind of stuff as long as possible. Yeah, yeah, right, right. So anyway, just yeah, just one. 00:39:42
Because that doesn't get replenished. 00:39:48
Right. So that's right. 00:39:50
Not saying not to use it, just. 00:39:53
That's kind of where I'm at. I don't want to. 00:39:55
It's nice to have that, you know? 00:39:58
It kind of can be like the. 00:40:01
Our Redevelopment Commission, rainy day, rainy day, yeah, that's what I would consider it as rainy day for redevelopment provided 00:40:02
to a developer as a loan. 00:40:06
Well, and that was initially, yeah, it was a revolving loan fund to use the tab to. So yes, but if somebody wants to do the barn, 00:40:12
I mean to John Bean's point, yeah, if we. 00:40:17
Entertain that and you put it out for. 00:40:22
Private sector to. 00:40:24
Turn it into something. Yeah, you maybe that's an incentive. 00:40:26
In this you may not be able to answer this, but is it OK to stay in that fund? 00:40:29
Until those funds are exhausted? Or do we need to create a rainy day fund for that? 00:40:34
I think we can leave it in that. 00:40:40
OK, well I wasn't trying to get us confused, I just didn't want to lose sight that. 00:40:43
That's sitting there non regarding was the keyword there so right. 00:40:48
I've got revolving loan, yeah. 00:40:51
It's clear now. 00:40:56
It's kind of treated as a rainy day. 00:40:57
Situation something to that sort of problem earlier like 10. 00:40:59
I got one quick final thing. So make My move reached out. We had an applicant that we approved earlier I think in January. 00:41:06
Elizabeth Miller. 00:41:18
And then she backed out. 00:41:21
And now she's back and would like to go ahead. 00:41:22
She ate the move. 00:41:25
So. 00:41:28
I know in the well I think in the past. 00:41:29
That those applicants. 00:41:32
Don presented them to you all for a final approval. 00:41:34
We have 3 left. 00:41:38
Do we want to continue having that approval? 00:41:40
Here by the board or would you all. 00:41:44
Grant me the ability to send out the approvals. 00:41:47
We have a vetting process. 00:41:52
I feel like an extra step. I'd like to get this thing closed down. 00:41:55
I would make a motion to allow. 00:42:04
Nick to proceed with. 00:42:09
The final step in the acceptance of those last three positions. Last three. 00:42:12
Ever since applicants that are. 00:42:19
Allowed in our program. 00:42:23
Just I'll second that and. 00:42:25
For discussion. 00:42:28
Is there two more in the pipeline? 00:42:29
We have several that have. 00:42:31
That have been. 00:42:33
In a couple, I think 1 is anticipating moving the event. 00:42:35
Do we have a cut? 00:42:38
Well, that's what I mentioned last year. It's like we need to let these folks know our deadline is X, whatever that date needs to 00:42:39
be. I think we can. 00:42:44
I think I can. I have the ability to reach out to these people. End of the calendar year maybe or we need the decision that's the 00:42:48
end of your fiscal year maybe. 00:42:52
Yeah, just October 1. 00:42:57
I will have. 00:43:00
The. 00:43:02
We have not voted. I'm not. 00:43:07
Whether to continue? 00:43:08
Right. Contract, I think I have an assessment of where you're all with it, but I will bring that probably next month to officially 00:43:10
make that decision. 00:43:15
That is all I have. 00:43:23
All right. And before we adjourn, do you have the minutes and all we need to send? 00:43:24
You did OK, so don't leave before we got the Senate. 00:43:29
All right, anything else for the? 00:43:32
If not, I'd entertain a motion, Mr. Bean. 00:43:35
John. 00:43:38
See you back there, sorry. 00:43:40
The as you know the. 00:43:46
Any sprinkler property. 00:43:48
Adjacent to Nab Hill. 00:43:51
And to. 00:43:53
Across the roads from. 00:43:55
Of the park is. 00:43:56
In a of. 00:43:59
Position of transition. I think you call it between. 00:44:00
Family situation and. 00:44:04
For sale, signs, etc. 00:44:06
We proposed several years ago as a community thing for. 00:44:09
The center itself to become a. 00:44:13
A Community Center, part of the Parks Department at that time. 00:44:15
The parks, you know. 00:44:18
Didn't have the dollars and cents and that wasn't part of their five year. 00:44:20
Long range plan, so it's available now. 00:44:24
We as a community. 00:44:27
I live in Nob Hill. 00:44:30
And there's a lot of growth there and there's a lot of growth West of there. 00:44:32
We we would certainly like to see some effort and I understand. 00:44:36
I think it's in the Kip program. 00:44:41
We talked about. 00:44:43
The underground church area. 00:44:44
Of course there. 00:44:47
And I think it is. I'm not for sure but. 00:44:49
We just would like to see it happen with something that's good for the community. 00:44:52
A Community Center. A boys and Girls Club. 00:44:57
Whatever. 00:45:00
A private, empty and Event Center. There's room for limited service hotel. 00:45:01
That's my background, 30 years of it. So there's room for a limited service up. 00:45:06
Quality. 00:45:11
And I know Rich. 00:45:11
And several of the red wire folks have. 00:45:13
Have expressed some. 00:45:16
Potential down the road maybe. 00:45:18
Needing a facility like that at that location. So it could be a combination of an Event Center and a limited service 70 rooms. 00:45:20
We had the opportunity several years ago. The. 00:45:30
Connect with Thornton Thornton Oil. 00:45:33
And do the Ramada Hurstbourne into a Conference Center. 00:45:36
And you can see what that really developed over the years for Jeffersontown in terms of. 00:45:40
New business development and small corporate meetings. 00:45:44
So that's one of the avenues. 00:45:47
A Community Center for the kids. If you go to the neighborhood and see what the neighborhood's growing. 00:45:49
You'll see many, many people. 00:45:55
With youngsters and. 00:45:57
Obviously the school is going to be. 00:45:59
Less than half a mile away are the new middle, middle school and some people. 00:46:02
Second with Floyd so. 00:46:06
I just like to see if there's any type of. 00:46:08
Consideration. 00:46:11
At some point in time. 00:46:12
How redevelop, Intermission or the county could. 00:46:13
It could, you know. 00:46:17
Take a look at it. 00:46:18
And I think it's an opportunity again. 00:46:19
I wish we had done it 5678 years ago when we went through the transition from the church. 00:46:23
Before antibiotic but. 00:46:28
Because of that divorce situation that's going on. 00:46:31
It's up for sale. 00:46:34
Both the underground portion which. 00:46:36
Could be converted to daycare, immediate care center or something of that nature as well. 00:46:39
So I don't know. 00:46:44
Where to start with other than saying? 00:46:46
Someone's I didn't know it was I didn't know it was for sale. 00:46:49
That's interesting. Yeah, well, he did. 00:46:52
He listed with the realtor, but we've got a sort of a gentleman's agreement because we want it for the community. 00:46:55
To do something. 00:47:01
I think. 00:47:04
The Conference Center potential is is there our Community Center as you know it's still got a full court. 00:47:05
Basketball court has got dressing rooms. I mean they could be converted. 00:47:13
For a few dollars secured the roof. 00:47:17
It's a real gym. 00:47:20
It's a real thing. The kids are. You see the parking lot, the kids are there now. 00:47:22
Of course he's had five. 00:47:26
Children that they've grown up and. 00:47:28
Pretty much on the Saturday night you'll see a gymnasium full of youngsters, though my son's usually one of them over there, so 00:47:30
it. 00:47:34
It's an opportunity now. I'd hate to see it converted. I'm pro development but I hate seeing converted to. 00:47:39
Some entity that doesn't fit. 00:47:47
Both. What's going on? 00:47:50
Across the road. 00:47:51
Whole neighborhood so. 00:47:53
Has the church been converted to single family? 00:47:55
No, I think the whole thing is how we use. 00:48:00
I mean, I think they converted it that I'm aware of. 00:48:03
The actual yeah, I'm not either. Was he not living on the property? OK. 00:48:07
So he remodeled. 00:48:12
The like you walk in the gymnasium is fully intact. Got The Walking track around the top? 00:48:14
And then to the right was his living area. 00:48:21
Where the bathrooms? Locker rooms? 00:48:23
He converted that. 00:48:25
'Cause it had classrooms. 00:48:27
Stuff. 00:48:29
Yeah, 8. 00:48:30
Their bedrooms, they are, yeah, it's a full kitchen, so they made that. 00:48:31
What are the long range plans I know Donna discussed in the past? 00:48:36
And something were made and look at the. 00:48:40
Depending on what happens up at the barn. 00:48:42
Is a commercial kitchen. 00:48:45
Through the USDA programs of the Commercial Kitchen program. 00:48:46
Is needed in the area right now the only real commercial kitchen. 00:48:50
Is over in West Louisville. 00:48:54
Where a lot of the vendors go to to cook some of their. 00:48:56
Their product so it could be a multi use. 00:48:59
Type of center as well. That's good to know because it's there. I'm at the. 00:49:03
The exhaust system and storage and. 00:49:08
Power system and any others and any idea on what they're? 00:49:11
Yeah. 00:49:15
There's two sections there. I'm in real estate, so I'm just. 00:49:16
I was curious too. Yeah, OK. I didn't even know it was on the market right there. There's two sections there. The first section 00:49:19
includes the main building. I'm talking about the. 00:49:24
The gymnasium, et cetera. 00:49:29
I think. 00:49:32
3 acres I think, or maybe 3 1/2 with that I believe was the number that is at 1.5. 00:49:34
The lower section. 00:49:41
The bunkers, it's called all concrete. 00:49:43
And it could be built. 00:49:46
But I think that section is. 00:49:48
You know he probably around 1,000,000 for that. 00:49:51
And that's the one that faces the road frontage. It has all the parking and. 00:49:54
We put a trailer down there because we're helping clean up. 00:49:58
For potential, just a community yard sale. 00:50:01
In that area. 00:50:04
Concrete bunkers. I mean, we talked to a couple of youth groups about some of the. 00:50:07
Football Football versions. 00:50:11
That they have where no passing to use. 00:50:14
That is an indoor. 00:50:17
We don't have anything. 00:50:19
Can't use the schools that much during them. 00:50:20
January, February, March. 00:50:23
December SO. 00:50:25
We've talked about using after. 00:50:27
So which which parcel is does the church belong to? Is it belong with the gymnasium? 00:50:29
Or is it belong to the front? 00:50:34
The church owned Olive. 00:50:35
But what? But which? Where's it broken up into the two parcels? 00:50:37
Yeah, Share. If you go up the hill from the concrete bunker area, it goes up around. 00:50:41
A partial of the parking lot. 00:50:50
And of course, you're familiar with the road around. 00:50:52
That section back there. 00:50:56
Is the main building, are the gymnasium so. 00:50:58
And the pool. 00:51:03
As you know, he built a nice pool there and with the shelter house. 00:51:04
I mean, it's ready for a turnkey hotel right there to. 00:51:08
To go up, if you wanted to build 1, which is, we're looking for a developer to do that. 00:51:11
So. 00:51:17
You know, and and there's more property that goes with the underground. 00:51:19
Portion the concrete bumper, then, yeah. 00:51:24
So you said a million for the lower part, did you did you give a price for the gym? 1 1/2 point 2 is 1.2 for that part and one. 00:51:26
He just listed the lower portion when. 00:51:34
Because of some of the family situations going on. 00:51:37
It separated. The lower portion was. 00:51:41
Basically in an LLC, I think ABCDEF, which is all of his kids. 00:51:44
1st and then first initial. 00:51:50
So that's. 00:51:52
Now that is also been signed because they had to get both. 00:51:53
Both parties. 00:51:57
Signed on the. 00:51:58
For sale agreement and I can't think I don't know that the realtor is for sure. 00:51:59
I want to say McMahon. 00:52:05
But. 00:52:08
McMahon, Max McMahon. McMahon. 00:52:10
I'm not for sure, OK. 00:52:13
I mean, I met with them because of our agreement with Daddy. 00:52:15
Our main concern is getting it something done that's good for the community, right? 00:52:19
Sorry to take up all your time, but that's. 00:52:23
It's a pressing issue when it's for sale. 00:52:25
I love apartments. I think it's needed, but I don't want more apartments necessarily going in there. We need something for the 00:52:28
kids. 00:52:32
Thank you. Thank. 00:52:35
Real quick. 00:52:38
There was a motion and a second but no vote on that make my move issue. 00:52:40
Oh, you're right, we didn't have a vote. All those in favor say aye aye. 00:52:44
Thank you, Brad. 00:52:51
Thank you. 00:52:53
All right. Anything else? 00:52:56
If not, we'll entertain a motion to adjourn. 00:52:58
So moved. 00:53:00
Second, second by Al All in favor say aye aye. 00:53:02
We're adjourned. Thank you. Don't forget we have to sign in minutes. 00:53:06
Nick, you had sent out a. 00:53:14
Meeting invite. 00:53:16
Yeah. 00:53:18
Oh, I think I might have updated it. 00:53:21
I want to make sure I wasn't missing one for next month. 00:53:24
Yeah, we in just building #2 over there, I guess, yeah. 00:53:28
Make sure I might miss him. 00:53:34
I'll go and check they're not on the calendar. 00:53:35
Right. Yeah. 00:53:43
I'm I used to not. 00:53:45
Looking down by my calendar but it's so busy right off. 00:53:47
Yeah, yeah. It's not written down. 00:53:50
Yeah that work off 3 different ones. I'm trying to merge them but. 00:53:53
Yeah, what I'll. 00:54:02
Either you or I, one of us reach out to KPFF. Just confirm do they have what they need. 00:54:04
And you know. 00:54:11
Brenda, did you stop recording? 00:54:12
Yeah, you can stop recording. 00:54:18
I got it. Now we just want to make sure I just. 00:54:21
Because there's been two different threads going out, so OK. 00:54:25