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For Tuesday, October 12, 2025, please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:02
Pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:00:07
The United States of America. 00:00:09
And to the Republic for which it stands. 00:00:11
One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:14
Right. 00:00:22
Please let the record reflect that we have a full quorum tonight. 00:00:24
Mr. Backshall, would you lead us in prayer, please? 00:00:30
Oh Lord, as we come before we every month. 00:00:34
At this meeting, we have an opening prayer. 00:00:36
I would thank you each time that we're. 00:00:39
Live in America. 00:00:41
Or there's freedom of liberty. 00:00:42
The medium, public and open meeting without fear of retribution. Or we can. 00:00:44
Meet anywhere coffee shops all across because of freedom of liberty and help us never to lose our gratitude for freedom of 00:00:48
liberty. 00:00:51
Or be with this council tonight. 00:00:55
And and the the next month as we go through this budget. 00:00:57
Process or give us the wisdom and the knowledge to make prudent choices for the betterment of our community. 00:01:00
Lord Jesus, be with our soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines today as they. 00:01:06
Defend freedom around the world. 00:01:10
Please be with our first responders today. 00:01:12
Our firemen, our police, our EMS keep them safe as they keep us safe. 00:01:15
And oh God, please, I pray for the peace of Jerusalem today. In your name, Amen. Amen. 00:01:20
All right, acceptance of tonight's agenda. 00:01:26
Some of 2nd. 00:01:32
Have a motion a second for tonight's agenda. Any discussion? 00:01:33
All in favor say aye aye. 00:01:38
That passes approval of minutes from our July 8th meeting. 00:01:41
So moved. 00:01:47
2nd I have a motion a second for July 8th meeting minutes. Any discussion on those? 00:01:48
All in favor say aye aye. 00:01:53
Any opposed that carries before we get to public? 00:01:55
I want to recognize one of our own who is still glowing down at the end. 00:01:58
Being joined in wedded bliss, Mr. 00:02:03
Mr. Tony Duran. 00:02:07
Is a newlywed. 00:02:09
So congratulations. 00:02:10
Thank you. 00:02:12
Thank you. 00:02:14
Right. Is there anyone from the public that wish to speak before we get started tonight? 00:02:16
All right, seeing none, we've got New Albany Township Fire Protection District. 00:02:21
Good evening. 00:02:31
Ruben Cummings with GFC on behalf of the fire. 00:02:32
District in. 00:02:36
What you have is a. 00:02:37
They have sold two pieces of equipment, a ladder truck and a submersible. 00:02:39
That they deemed they did not have a need for. 00:02:43
That totaled $1.151 million. 00:02:46
One way and 151505. 00:02:50
What they're asking for is for that entire amount to be. 00:02:53
Additional appropriation so they can continue to pay down debts on some other existing trucks. 00:02:55
But they do have. 00:03:01
Told them any dead before they walked into the territory. 00:03:02
Other than their. 00:03:05
Dead on the bill on the station, that was from 2000 and. 00:03:08
Eight or something, otherwise no equipment that will be had if you approve that. 00:03:11
Is there a motion for 1A? 00:03:17
It's all moved. 00:03:20
Second motion, Second. Any questions for Ruth? 00:03:21
Seeing none, all in favor say aye. 00:03:27
Aye, any opposed? 00:03:29
1st, I'll see you in a few weeks for budgets, right? Thank you very much. 00:03:31
Doctor Harris and the health Department. 00:03:35
Whoa, I don't know. 00:03:46
I'm Doctor Tom Harris from the Foote County Health officer would be can I do the chairman of our board, Doctor Gwen Jensen. 00:03:52
I don't think your mic's working. 00:04:00
Basically, what we're looking at tonight is want to brief you guys on where we stand with the property at 3317 Grant Line Rd. 00:04:05
An image of which you see. 00:04:12
Supposedly in front of you there. 00:04:14
So I guess the first question is why do we need a new home? 00:04:17
As most of you are aware, the county commissioners have secured the building for us. 00:04:21
The primary reason is we're we're out of space the the new facility has. 00:04:26
A significant amount of square footage we're now crammed into about 3500. 00:04:31
We go through the study five years ago, they looked at the health department in 20 years and basically what we did with that study 00:04:37
is we established that the Floyd County population is going to increase .25 to .5% per year. So we we've had consistent growth 00:04:43
since the 80s. There's no reason to expect that that will stop. 00:04:49
3rd and perhaps maybe the most important reason. 00:04:56
Is we are homeless after September 30th 2026? 00:05:00
Since the hospital. 00:05:05
Was sold to the Baptist back in 2016. 00:05:07
We have been existing rent, utility and maintenance free and a facility that we've. 00:05:11
Drastically overgrown. 00:05:16
In the picture there you see one of our employees, Brian Potter, who is actually working in the closet. 00:05:18
We have multiple staff members sharing offices we actually count. 00:05:24
Mosquitoes, which we submit for West Nile testing in Saint Louis. Equine encephalitis testing. 00:05:28
After hours and then. 00:05:36
We use the lobby as a storage area. There's no place to park and the building that we're in is has four separate electrical fires 00:05:39
within the last year. 00:05:43
And we do not have consistent generator backup now. 00:05:48
So we've outgrown it and outlived it in some ways. 00:05:51
So the new facility on Grant line as you see there. 00:05:56
Is the first floor. 00:06:00
For those of you familiar with this building, was originally a branch. 00:06:02
Bank on the first level with offices on the second level. 00:06:05
If you look. 00:06:10
At the left side of your screen. 00:06:12
You'll see those areas will be converted into. 00:06:15
Offices and. 00:06:19
Examination rooms. 00:06:21
If you look down in the lower right hand, there's a large multi. 00:06:23
Function room that we can do education in. 00:06:27
And then there is an overhang with three drive through slots originally for banking, but we want to convert that area to allow 00:06:29
outdoor activities, the car line that we ran during COVID and things like that. Those of you all who are familiar with this 00:06:36
freezing out there during the winter for a couple years, this is this is a very attractive structure to us. 00:06:43
On the second floor. 00:06:51
You'll see that basically the top 50% of the screen is the health department in the bottom. 00:06:52
Is umm. 00:06:58
The other county offices that would be moving into the building. 00:07:00
If you look at the dedicated square footage. 00:07:04
About 34% of the dedicated square footage of the building is for somebody other than the health department. 00:07:07
However, if you look at operational funding. 00:07:14
The health Department's the only one who's actually kicking in money for the budget. 00:07:17
For the construction out of our budget. 00:07:22
So we came up with option A. 00:07:25
Option A as a result of several meetings involving the. 00:07:28
Floyd County Health Department staff myself. 00:07:31
Board members, a commissioner, the Floyd County Operations Director, architect and architectural representatives. 00:07:34
Most of the cost involved in this is related to the first floor conversion. 00:07:42
As you can imagine, going from an open. 00:07:47
Floor plan branch bank to. 00:07:49
Cubbyholes of offices and exam rooms requires a lot of plumbing changes on electrical changes. 00:07:52
And preferably generator driven plugs throughout the building. 00:07:59
Option B. 00:08:04
Was generated at the request of 1 Commissioner. It was done on a short. 00:08:06
Notice done quickly. 00:08:10
With much less involvement with only one board member of the architect Director of operations in the airport, County 00:08:13
Administrator. 00:08:16
So in glorious low definition, there you can see the two options side to side. 00:08:21
The first and one on the left hand side of the screen was the original definition. 00:08:27
Some of the contentious or. 00:08:32
Not really optional, but some of the contentious. 00:08:35
Line items are listed in yellow. 00:08:38
And then you can see the the bottom line difference down in the corner for. 00:08:41
Both estimates. 00:08:45
So what do we lose if we cut back to option B? 00:08:48
Well, there's the asphalt resurfacing. 00:08:51
There's the drive through clinic which is off pandemic proven need and it allows outdoor operations if it's raining and that's a 00:08:54
fairly key function. 00:08:58
But also. 00:09:01
About 150 to $200,000 investment. 00:09:02
We don't really know if. 00:09:06
Prepare or not, the initial evaluation of the building was negative for that. 00:09:08
The general county offices. 00:09:13
With option B, really don't get much of A refit or adjustment at all. There's they're going to move into the existing spaces. 00:09:15
There's exterior signage loss. We also have less budgeted for audio video capability. 00:09:23
And that reduction damages our ability not only to educate the population, but also revenue. 00:09:29
Because our goal, one of our goals, is to increase the number of people who are CPR trained by half a percent per year in the 00:09:34
county. 00:09:37
Each time we do that, we make between 40 and $50 per person. We're looking at about 500 people a year. 00:09:41
500 So that's a significant amount of income that we'd have to reduce the size of the classes and we'd be avoiding the intake. 00:09:47
Also with a cutback, we lose a fenced in area in the parking lot where we can more securely store equipment. 00:09:56
And the trailers that we used to respond at different events. 00:10:04
We lose 2nd floor storage and we have. 00:10:08
Under option B. 00:10:12
And perhaps the most important things is we have much smaller emergency generator. 00:10:13
Basically under option B we just have enough generator to cool the vaccine. 00:10:18
And to put that in perspective, we have. 00:10:23
On any given day, close to $300,000 worth of vaccine in the building, so we have to have some. 00:10:26
Sort of battery backup. 00:10:32
Essentially a gas driven generator back up to limit the potential loss of a significant amount. 00:10:35
Of treasure there. 00:10:40
Additionally, with option A, we had planned to have a generator. 00:10:42
Power the whole building I think. 00:10:46
Everybody's been to a hospital. You've seen red plugs on the wall. 00:10:49
Yeah, where do you have the the plugins? 00:10:52
The red plugs are generated plugs. 00:10:54
And so if you have. 00:10:56
Generator capability throughout the building. That building becomes an ITIS for response. You can you can organize responses out 00:10:58
of it. 00:11:02
You can house people temporarily if you need to. You can provide services. 00:11:05
And respond to your disaster and community damaging events so. 00:11:09
That's one of the major things we use with option B. 00:11:14
And then, you know, there are a couple of other things that include an option. They like landscaping. 00:11:17
And window treatments that. 00:11:22
Might be a source of potential cutback. 00:11:24
One of the other concerns is that if we do go to some sort of phased renovation that we would have interference with ongoing 00:11:28
operations by follow up. 00:11:33
Projects. 00:11:37
So we have the building open, we have a lot of foot traffic in it every day and then we have issues with say, you know. 00:11:38
Asphalt resurfacing in the lot. 00:11:44
To limit our services. 00:11:47
So if we're looking at funds, there's about $800,000 of accounting. 00:11:50
About $300,000 leftover from the bond. 00:11:56
There's about $161,700 from me. 00:11:59
HFI funds. 00:12:03
And that leaves a total appropriation of about 1.2 million. 00:12:05
So to complete this project with something close to option A, we're going to need additional money. 00:12:09
If we go to option B, we need $6000, but we get much less capability as a result. 00:12:16
Now the the one thing that has. 00:12:23
Damaged our ability to internally. 00:12:25
Fund this to a greater extent. 00:12:27
Is the HFI model. 00:12:29
As I'm sure most of you know the the governor, Brian. 00:12:31
Dramatically decreased the the funding for the HFI program. 00:12:35
We went from a yearly. 00:12:39
Contribution of $1.4 million to yearly contribution of about $400,000. 00:12:42
So, and of those funds from HFI, only 10% can be used on capital gains per year. 00:12:48
And that 10% includes all. 00:12:55
So if we buy. 00:12:58
For example a vehicle or if we need yeah. 00:12:59
Computers, things like that. 00:13:01
That also impacts that 10% total. 00:13:03
Coming from HFI. 00:13:06
So where can where can we find some money? So sources first of all. 00:13:08
The ban funds could be increased from 2.8 million to 3.2 million. 00:13:13
The local income tax. 00:13:19
Proceeds. 00:13:22
Conceivably use. 00:13:23
Be used on public health. 00:13:25
And we know that we're going to have more income. 00:13:27
Tax then would be required for the EMS service. 00:13:30
The council could increase the amount of the tax levy didn't get. 00:13:35
Bake sales aren't really an option. 00:13:39
And to put this in context, the cost is still going to be much less than the estimated 5.47 million. 00:13:42
That renovation of the rice. 00:13:50
Cost and that's in 2017 dollars. 00:13:52
So this is still a much more economic option. 00:13:55
The other sort of. 00:14:01
Thing to consider is is that. 00:14:03
The county has not. 00:14:05
Had maintenance funds, utility funds, or rent for the. 00:14:07
For the last 10 years for this offering of our service. 00:14:10
So taxpayer benefits, so no benefit to really postponing construction. 00:14:14
Tariff concerns on inflation. 00:14:19
Interference with daily operation and loss of incomes on services that we can't provide if we just don't have the space to do it. 00:14:22
The building's already been procured but needs to be converted. 00:14:30
From a branch bank to a public health medical facility. 00:14:33
Doing the renovational. 00:14:37
Doing the renovation correctly is a generational solution. 00:14:39
That preserves capability, services and options for the next 30 years if you follow. 00:14:42
The increase in population. 00:14:46
And even assume that it's on the upper end at .5%. 00:14:48
Year, we will still have enough space in this building to provide the adequate number of nurses. 00:14:51
Environmentalists and records people. 00:14:58
To cover. 00:15:01
Throughout the next 30 years, So it's not like this is a solution. I'm going to fix the place and they're going to have to move 00:15:02
out of a building. 00:15:05
You know, within a few years. 00:15:09
To provide the service. 00:15:11
And the last slide is? 00:15:18
Questions. 00:15:21
There we go, and I would also like to extend the opportunity. 00:15:23
People want to walk the battlefield with us. You're welcome to come out. 00:15:27
And we can go through the building. 00:15:31
And kind of see the train and it makes it a bit of a difference I think if you if you sort of realize what the issues are. 00:15:33
But our concerns are is that if we try to do this on the cheap. 00:15:40
That the loss of capability. 00:15:45
Makes that not cheap at all that it's just going to require additional funding or retrofitting down the road with the potential 00:15:48
loss of function and income in the short run and. 00:15:53
A loss of operational activity in the long run. 00:15:58
And so we, we, we are striking now before. 00:16:03
The the budgets are of course, fully finalized. 00:16:08
And we wanted to talk to you guys and get and get the word out there. 00:16:12
And try to get a feeling and try to review all guys where we are. 00:16:16
We have. 00:16:22
To be out of our building in September 30th in 2026. 00:16:23
There's not going to be extensions. The hospital wants this out sooner. 00:16:28
And in fact, that building may actually. 00:16:32
Questions. 00:16:40
Why? I have a couple comments. I guess we I. 00:16:42
Had Dalen on with them, talk with the health department we had there. 00:16:47
Their budget and we talked about this. 00:16:52
Quite, quite extensively when we were there. 00:16:55
So can we go back to the two quotes? 00:17:00
That you had lights on by side. 00:17:04
Yeah. 00:17:06
So the the. 00:17:09
I think what we're getting at here is that. 00:17:10
We have. 00:17:15
Something that will cost. 00:17:16
2.7. 00:17:18
Or. 00:17:19
If we don't do everything, and he laid out specifically what we're not going to do, it's going to be. 00:17:20
Approximately 1.2. 00:17:26
And to get to the one point. 00:17:30
2 million. 00:17:33
Umm, we there's, there's sort of two scenarios here if we go with the ban. 00:17:37
The ban right now is at 2 point. 00:17:43
7. 00:17:46
65. 00:17:47
And if. 00:17:49
And we paid. 00:17:51
2.2 for the building. 00:17:53
I said 2.2 or 2.1. 00:17:55
2.2 So that leaves us 500,000 on that van. 00:17:57
So and then the CARES Act money. 00:18:02
Was another 800,000. 00:18:06
Right. And you laid all this out on another slide. 00:18:08
I think and then you had an additional 140. 00:18:12
So I. 00:18:20
Think that gave us. 00:18:21
1.4 million. 00:18:24
To be able to do the renovations with staying with the current man. 00:18:26
So. 00:18:31
I think the ask is we really want to do this right. 00:18:33
How can we get more money? 00:18:36
In addition to the $1.4 million that we have available to us right now and the. 00:18:38
One of the things that we came across during this discussion is. 00:18:44
If we. 00:18:50
Umm, we. 00:18:51
That we can pay. 00:18:54
Off the band and bond this up to. 00:18:56
3.2 million. 00:18:59
Which gives us another half million dollars. 00:19:01
Now that means we have to bond this and I know there was talk about. 00:19:04
Paying this off. 00:19:08
But that gives us another 500,000 and that gets you close to 2 million. 00:19:11
So my ask. 00:19:16
Would be Can we do something in between the two? 00:19:18
For 2 million. 00:19:21
Yes, that's always an option. 00:19:23
Yeah. And that's what I would like to see. That's that's where we go ahead and bond this all the way up to the 3.2 million. 00:19:24
And then we. 00:19:32
Use the other. 00:19:34
Revenue sources. 00:19:36
And do a $2,000,000 renovation and kind of. 00:19:38
Cut this. 00:19:42
Now, right, right in the middle, I'm tracking with you. Keep in mind, these are. 00:19:42
Estimates from an architect and not a contractor. Until there's an RFI, we don't really have a hard amount and if you look at the 00:19:48
the form there, there is a 12%. 00:19:54
You know variation there, right? The potential cost? 00:20:01
Because the uncertainties in the market and things like that. 00:20:04
500,000 of that goes to the county offices at. 00:20:08
500,000. 00:20:13
Right, right. And that that's a good point. 00:20:15
Who are not contributing operational dollars. 00:20:18
It's like the coroner is not contributing anything to this renovation, but this is a county building for all. 00:20:21
The bulk of it in the bulk of the renovation is on the 1st floor. 00:20:28
Correct price. 00:20:32
I I mean I. 00:20:34
My view is. 00:20:35
And I think you're just asking for some feedback here. 00:20:37
Because the next step, I believe is to send out our RFI's, right? That's exactly correct. Yeah, that we need some sort of guidance 00:20:41
on, on where to aim. 00:20:45
Yeah, the RFI's there. 00:20:49
My I would hope that we could get this done by. 00:20:51
For 2 million and that we could. 00:20:53
And that we could. 00:20:57
Go ahead and bond this. 00:20:59
Over a. 00:21:01
20 year period. I think I calculated something. 00:21:02
On that. 00:21:06
$250,000 payment a year I think is what I calculated anyway. There's 250 to $300,000 payment a year. 00:21:10
In one of the issues that alluded to, but without saying specifically is is that the DHF by cutbacks really kind of. 00:21:18
Was a problem here. 00:21:26
You know, before we were counting on $140,000 per year that we could spend on capital improvement. 00:21:28
Right. And this which would have paid for almost payments for this and over, over the course of ten years basically pay for the 00:21:34
difference, but we're now down to something along the lines of 40,000. 00:21:40
Maybe even closer to 38. 00:21:46
Per year. So there's been a huge cutback in HFI available funds and and that dramatically limits our ability to internally fund 00:21:48
this. 00:21:52
Well, I agree with. 00:21:57
Denise, we need to move forward with getting. 00:22:00
RFI's and our. 00:22:02
I think our guidance is. 00:22:04
Or at least for what? 00:22:06
The only do they've spoken so far is. 00:22:08
You know. 00:22:11
I'm not against bonding it. 00:22:13
And. 00:22:16
You know, I would prioritize. 00:22:18
In an RFI. 00:22:21
The things you have and the things that you want in that neighborhood and. 00:22:24
We get. 00:22:29
Quotes back that are. 00:22:30
Better than anticipated. 00:22:32
We can fit it under the cap and if we get. 00:22:34
Cost back that are worse than anticipated. We're going to have to take a second look at. 00:22:37
About how we move forward. So we want it done right. We want it done at today's dollars. 00:22:41
I will caution. 00:22:48
Before you repave the parking lot or whatever. 00:22:51
Get with me because I'm working on a plan to. 00:22:54
Redo that entrance. 00:22:59
To the stoplight. 00:23:01
And make that way more accessible. 00:23:02
And, and, and add, add a little bit there. We'd like to get TARC involved and potentially put in a shelter out there as well. So 00:23:06
that'd be fantastic. Yeah, I think the road department might be able to. 00:23:11
Well, it's it's city, so I'm speaking with some some folks there to. 00:23:16
I'm talking about Rd. department maybe though. 00:23:22
Help us redo the paving right? 00:23:24
So I wouldn't Even so is there other comments and questions I got up. 00:23:27
I guess it's more of a Nick question. 00:23:31
How old is that roof? 00:23:34
How old is the build? 00:23:36
You should know that. 00:23:38
I don't have it with me. 00:23:39
Buildings about 30 years. 00:23:41
30 years old. Yeah, the building's from 1993. 00:23:42
Time goes by fast. I didn't think it builds at all. When the appraisal was done, the the roof was assessed as you know, basically 00:23:48
intact, but there wasn't like a formal roof inspection. 00:23:53
At least the way I understand the verbiage on it. 00:23:59
Right. It was deemed acceptable, right? I don't know. I assume it's a rubberized roof. 00:24:02
So that's. 00:24:09
$70,000 that we could probably. 00:24:11
And all honestly. 00:24:15
Doctorate that wouldn't impact operations inside. 00:24:17
If they're working on real on top, if we had to do that year or two or three or four and that's come down. 00:24:21
And then also I think it's called an RFP request for proposal RFI, what was that? 00:24:28
Our eyes Request for information. RFP's proposal. 00:24:35
Well, what you're going to put out? 00:24:38
We're quotes. 00:24:40
Yeah. 00:24:54
So. 00:24:56
These are probable cause. Our next step would be hiring. 00:24:57
Engineered to do construction drawings. 00:25:01
Come up with kind of a final estimate that can go up to bid from there. 00:25:05
I will say that these probable cause. 00:25:11
Are very conservative, so we are. 00:25:13
That's we're hoping it will be. 00:25:16
Less than this. 00:25:18
After the. 00:25:20
Engineer drawings, but we wanted to be. 00:25:22
We always want to. 00:25:26
Shoot under. 00:25:27
And instead of coming back and asking for more after. 00:25:28
We had the second. 00:25:33
Quote put together. 00:25:35
We started this process. 00:25:37
So here's your budget 1.27. 00:25:39
This is what we need. Turned out to be 2.7 so. 00:25:43
Worst case scenario, we wanted to have an option that was within the budget. So I absolutely think that you know. 00:25:47
Pertinent thing probably, if we can. 00:25:54
Get it all done now. 00:25:57
But there are some items that are exterior items. 00:25:58
I would not interfere with the operations. 00:26:02
If needed, could. 00:26:06
Yeah. And if we can keep it in that 2 million area that I think that would be. 00:26:08
I think there is in my limited life experience with architects, the what the architect thinks it costs and what the builder thinks 00:26:13
it's costs are generally 2 totally separate numbers, correct? 00:26:17
And I got another question. 00:26:24
Construction wise. 00:26:26
The drive through that you want to make for. 00:26:28
Ebola vaccines. 00:26:31
And I'm in agreement with that. 00:26:33
But it says almost 200 some 1000. 00:26:35
For what are you going to? Is that garage doors? What is that? Yeah, it involves running. 00:26:39
Plumbing and electricity out there. 00:26:45
As well as securable garage doors. Part of the issue is, is that the overhang? There's a lot of vertical space there. 00:26:48
So the doors are going to be heavy and the standard garage door opener is not going to have enough amperage to raise the to raise 00:26:55
the door. 00:26:59
We'd also have it roughed in so we could put the heat ducts out there and have like blow through heat. 00:27:04
Do do I think that that could potentially be done for less than that? That's a possibility and something we should look at. 00:27:10
But it's a huge increase in capability for us. 00:27:15
And we used a lot of propane trying to heat, you know, some desert storm tents and effectively and for two winters during Covad so 00:27:19
that this would allow us to to dramatically improve things. 00:27:25
It also allows us the option of actually staging. 00:27:31
Vaccine or. 00:27:34
What we call PODS which is on on site dispensing systems. 00:27:37
Without moving from the building. 00:27:42
You know, we basically take this stuff out of the refrigerator, out of the closet is being stored in and, you know, walk it out to 00:27:43
the car lot. So it actually makes it more efficient. 00:27:47
From a, you know, person per hour perspective will do that kind of response. 00:27:52
So that so having that there certainly we don't want to demo it. 00:27:56
But if we, if we. 00:28:01
Convert that over to a. 00:28:02
Concealable or containable place, that would be great. The other thing is we can keep vehicles in there at night if we have the 00:28:04
ability to close it off and secure it. 00:28:08
So that that brings that option up. 00:28:13
That's why. But could it be done for less than that? The answer is potentially. I mean, that's where the the the the request from 00:28:15
the person who actually has to build and can. 00:28:19
I think becomes true. 00:28:23
Where are you keeping your trailers and your equipment at now? 00:28:25
Some of the one of the trailers in our vehicles are in the parking lot outside the health department now on the hospital campus. 00:28:30
There are some of the other trailers are immediately to the left of this building as I'm facing in a sort of fenced off area now. 00:28:38
And we would, you know, basically do the same kind of pit stop area back in the corner of the lot 3217 like a bullpen type. 00:28:46
Like a bullpen type thing? Yeah. 00:28:53
Doctor, I just. 00:29:01
And thank you for coming and and sharing this with us because this is the first time that we've been. 00:29:02
Brought up to date on what's going on with that building and. 00:29:08
I appreciate that. Thank you. We thought that before the the budgetary process were much further this fall that this would be a 00:29:12
good time to bring this up and maybe try to. 00:29:17
Move the needle a little bit. 00:29:22
Anybody else have anything for Doctor Harris? 00:29:24
I guess we're looking for consensus to. 00:29:29
To put out. 00:29:31
Do the engineering drawings and put out the. 00:29:32
The bids. 00:29:35
For that. 00:29:37
Is everybody in agreement to move forward with that process? 00:29:39
Yes. 00:29:42
Yes, yes. 00:29:43
Nick. 00:29:45
Do you have to have a number or we? 00:29:50
So the end. 00:29:54
Engineers work off a percentage of. 00:29:59
If we're if we're going for 2 million there, their costs are going to be. 00:30:02
I believe the footprint between 1.7 and. 00:30:08
2,000,001.71 point 5 I believe the footprint is going to be the same, it's just some added like an extra generator. 00:30:14
I some some. 00:30:22
Some extras so. 00:30:25
I mean. 00:30:28
I would give them. 00:30:29
I would give them the range of two to two four. 00:30:31
That's exactly where we land, and then we'll have to work back or forward from there. 00:30:35
Is that OK? 00:30:40
Is that is that acceptable to everybody out there from the health department? 00:30:42
Everybody agrees with that, yes. 00:30:47
There's your direction, Mr. 00:30:49
Doctor Harris, thank you for the presentation. 00:30:52
All right, we'll get our agenda pulled back up here. 00:31:03
Is Kent in the building tonight? Is anybody? 00:31:10
No, Sir, Mr. President, he asked that I would present tonight for him. 00:31:12
These requests are reimbursements. The first one is a reimbursement for training exercise for. 00:31:16
Food with Harrison County and the second one. 00:31:22
Is reimbursement for? 00:31:25
A hash Mac cleanup. 00:31:27
From a company. 00:31:29
So with that being said, I would approve that 3/8. I would move that 3A be approved. 00:31:31
So I get a motion a second for 3A. Any questions on? 00:31:35
This reimbursement? 00:31:39
All in favor say aye. 00:31:41
Aye, any opposed? 00:31:42
That carries. 00:31:44
Youth Services. 00:31:47
Leah is not going to be here tonight. She's actually. 00:31:49
During a conference. 00:31:52
And she asked me to present. These are just additional appropriations. 00:31:54
Out of her fund. 00:31:59
That will take her through the end of the year. 00:32:02
Is there a motion for four AI make motion to accept it? 00:32:09
2nd, we have a motion. I guess the question is, is she got another grant coming in? 00:32:13
She these are her DMS so she gets. 00:32:19
Based on. 00:32:22
The number of. 00:32:23
Balance is a lot less than what she's asking. 00:32:26
OK. It's reimbursable. 00:32:29
Yeah, spin it. 00:32:34
Any further discussion on for a? 00:32:37
All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:32:40
That carries Mr. Matt Dennison, You are up. 00:32:43
Sleep. 00:32:53
You want to do your 5/8 first. 00:33:01
Sure, yeah. 00:33:03
Just a request for additional appropriation for. 00:33:06
Liability insurance, we've been short on that the last couple years. 00:33:10
And coming. 00:33:14
Before you to ask that we make that whole so we can pay that. 00:33:15
Move the five, AB approved. 00:33:19
Second motion is second for 5A. Any questions for Mr. Dennison? 00:33:21
All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:33:26
That carries. 00:33:29
Thank you. Continue. 00:33:30
B is a creation of a line in our 1178 count for A. 00:33:33
Legacy Foundation grant that will go towards Saint Pete and Community Park. 00:33:38
It's going to be a shelter for improvement, really, for that entire area. 00:33:42
This will allow us to put that money into a line and kind of keep it organized as we work through that project. It'll be later 00:33:46
this year into the spring of 2026. 00:33:51
I'll make a motion to approve. 00:33:57
CSIB. 00:33:59
Have a motion a second for 5B and we're creating. Is the line already there? 00:34:01
Are we creating a line and? 00:34:06
Adding these funds at the same time the appropriation itself creates the line. Gotcha. 00:34:09
Any further discussion on 5B? 00:34:15
All in favor say aye. 00:34:17
Aye, any opposed? 00:34:19
Thank you. 00:34:21
And we have a brief presentation for you tonight. This was approved by the Parks Board in 3rd July meeting. 00:34:22
We'll also be doing a presentation later this month. 00:34:28
For the Commissioners, but again. 00:34:32
We have Paul Tennis. He's with SWT Design. 00:34:34
And also also Ashley Keaney has been part of the project with SWT. 00:34:38
Paul is a Greenville resident. He actually left SWT. 00:34:42
And move to another firm recently, but. 00:34:46
He's been a great friend of the parks, both professionally and personally, and he was willing to come tonight. 00:34:49
As we bring this before you, so I appreciate him helping me with the presentation. He's been a. 00:34:53
Huge part of what we've done here over the last 15 months. 00:34:58
Just to give you a brief overview before Paul walks through some of the key components. 00:35:01
This has been about a 15. 00:35:06
1515 month process. Excuse me. 00:35:08
That began last May. 00:35:11
There's been lots of opportunities along the way for public input, for professional input. 00:35:12
To find out with both of these parks and locations what our community wants. 00:35:17
And really what our community needs. 00:35:21
We've had a lot of meetings. We had a series of meetings across the county. 00:35:24
Some had pretty good turnouts, others not as much, but an opportunity to engage with those that came out. 00:35:28
To visit with us, there also were some surveys. 00:35:34
And we probably had our best connection with the public at our Halloween in the Park event that we do each year with the Sheriff's 00:35:36
Office. We had over 350 people we handed out candy to and. 00:35:41
Got them to take a look at some preliminary plans and ideas for both of these facilities so. 00:35:46
This has been a long time coming to get to this point. 00:35:52
And really, what you're going to see tonight from the Bob Lane Regional Park in Georgetown. 00:35:55
To, of course, you know, Community Park in New Albany that's been around for so many years. 00:35:59
They're really opposites, you know, Obviously Bob Lane is new. The trails are open. 00:36:04
That those are exciting, I think have been exciting for our community. 00:36:09
And we understand that's going to be a long term project likely to build that park out. But there's so many opportunities there to 00:36:12
provide things for Floyd County and beyond that currently don't exist. There's opportunities there for I think some very unique 00:36:17
partnerships perhaps. 00:36:22
And very interesting what that part could become. 00:36:27
On the other hand, if you grew up here in Floyd County. 00:36:30
You probably have some memories of Sam Pete Community Park like me. I played soccer there. 00:36:34
And for those maybe a bit older than me, maybe they even swam there back in the day, so. 00:36:39
But it's a park that if you bring it up, people in this area, in this city, in this county. 00:36:45
That strikes home. They care about that park and when the grass is cut and our new pickleball courts are full. 00:36:50
And the shelters are rented. 00:36:57
It's a beautiful place even after all these years, but. 00:36:58
We got a lot of stuff that's aging. 00:37:02
Some of its underground. You don't even see a lot of things beginning to fail. 00:37:05
Also, it's time for some new amenities. It's time to think ahead for what the next. 00:37:09
Iteration of Sam Deedon Community Park can be for our community for the next 60. 00:37:13
Or 70 years. So I think this is unique to. 00:37:18
Tackle both of these plans at the same time. Also, I want to say this from the get go. I know this is probably the worst time. 00:37:20
To come to you about. 00:37:27
Big projects and big ideas and. 00:37:28
And new things. But it's the right thing to do for the community for us to push and organize these things. 00:37:31
And do everything we can to make sure that our park system. 00:37:37
Is brought up to speed to be quite honest and that ultimately it shots. So that's why we're here tonight. We've already 00:37:40
successfully landed a Legacy Foundation grant. 00:37:45
We're applying for every grant we can find. We're very hopeful with some others that we. 00:37:51
Are currently in the mix for. 00:37:56
We know this is going to be done in phases. We know none of these are short term. 00:37:57
You know, OK, all this funding is here, we can do it all. We get that. 00:38:01
You know, also I want to mention that. 00:38:06
Parks Foundation has been dormant now for a number of years. 00:38:09
We're working to stand that back up by the end of 2025. I think that could be a very valuable. 00:38:13
Resource where the community can get involved. 00:38:19
And we can raise maybe even some private funds in addition to grants. 00:38:21
And we're going to be back. There's going to be things, even if we don't proceed with major projects and big ideas. 00:38:25
There's there's going to be issues that come up that need to be fixed that we don't have within our budget. 00:38:31
And you're going to hear about one of those, you know, really soon. There's a big issue with the trail. 00:38:37
Between the park and the 4H property that is failing, and it's going to be a very sizable repair that we're all going to have to 00:38:41
get together and figure out so. 00:38:45
With that said, Paul's going to take you through Sam Pete Community Park first. 00:38:49
Then we'll go through Bob Lane Regional Park. We've only picked out some of the highlights. 00:38:53
We do have a printed copy of tonight's presentation for you to take. 00:38:58
And I'll follow up here in the next couple days with an e-mail. 00:39:02
Of the full master plan that includes both parks, but thanks for the opportunity to come before you tonight. 00:39:05
And be at the commissioners meeting and then after that, we'll really work on getting this plan out to the public so they can see 00:39:12
what the future could hold for fully county parks. Paul. 00:39:17
All right, so I'll walk you through all of this and thank you all for your time tonight. And also I just wanted to thank. 00:39:24
Mr. Short, Mr. Bagshaw, for being our steering committee. During this we had representatives from Council and Commission on our 00:39:30
steering committee along with other staff in the county, so. 00:39:34
A lot of good engagement. 00:39:39
Through you know, we've basically had a monthly meeting during the process worked with these. 00:39:41
Great folks to kind of work through this so. 00:39:45
Community Park. 00:39:47
There's Dale. You're in that picture somewhere. 00:39:49
No, but you know, it's it's a much loved asset in the community. It's the biggest park. 00:39:54
Currently in the system, the Regional Park will you know? 00:39:58
Technically, by acreage now the Regional Park is, but it's long been the largest park in the system. 00:40:01
And it just needs a month, you know, it's got great facilities. 00:40:06
And really what we went through in this process was just thinking about, as Matt said, what the legacy. 00:40:11
Looks like going forward. 00:40:16
You know, how do we build upon all the great memories that have been there, but how do we think about it for the future? 00:40:18
So we've really broken this up into a few key areas and I'll just kind of walk you through some of the highlights and. 00:40:22
As. 00:40:27
Said we'll give you the. 00:40:29
More detailed breakdown so you can. 00:40:31
You know, think about different elements and let us know what you think about certain pieces. But. 00:40:32
I'll start with the kind of the main entry off a Grand Line Rd. 00:40:37
So thinking about this area. 00:40:40
One of the key challenges with the entry to the park is there's no signalized intersection. 00:40:42
There's no way in and out of the park when there's a cross country meeting. 00:40:46
Right. It's really challenging. 00:40:49
So thinking about a new entry, there are a few alternatives in the in the master plan. 00:40:51
But this was the one that kind of stuck the most. So reorganizing the entry to align with Walmart. 00:40:56
I do, whether it's a roundabout. 00:41:02
Excuse me? A roundabout or a stoplight? Some some kind of traffic control? 00:41:04
To get you in and out the park. 00:41:08
And then it's really re envisioning area around the old County Hospital. 00:41:10
You know, how do we think about what to do with an NX building? 00:41:13
Taking it down. 00:41:17
Re envisioning this front entry so that we've got a great community asset there. It's a, it's a. 00:41:18
An Event Center, it's a great opportunity for a public private partnership. That's something that we've discussed a lot in our 00:41:23
steering committee. 00:41:27
Meetings, how to get someone who can come in and really. 00:41:30
Think about this and program it and make it a great space and run it. 00:41:33
For parks, but a stage, some sort of an amenity on that end of the park that really draws people in and creates a new. 00:41:37
Event venue, We called it the venue here and this could have. 00:41:44
Other facilities in it too, food and beverage is something that's been brought up quite a bit and then there's other potential 00:41:47
development within this area too that could front on Grant Line Rd. that could offset some of the. 00:41:52
Expense of doing these facilities. 00:41:57
So then coming around the the lake is really the hub of the park, you know, everything really pivots off the lake. 00:41:59
So, umm. 00:42:05
The playground area. The main pavilion on the Northside of the lake. 00:42:06
Really reinvesting in that area. 00:42:10
If you spend anytime with if you have little kids like I do. 00:42:12
When they're running around there, there, it's it's in pretty rough shape. 00:42:15
It just needs a refresh. 00:42:18
And really, as kind of the main park in the system, it needs a, it really needs a destination playground, something on par with 00:42:19
the Kevin Hammersmith. 00:42:23
Would be the right fit for a park like this? 00:42:27
So we've got a playground, sprayground, large pavilion. 00:42:30
And key thing throughout the park? New restrooms. 00:42:33
That's kind of the key thing that we heard over and over again. 00:42:36
I won't. I won't talk too much about geese because we'll talk about geese at the very end of this. That's the other thing we 00:42:39
talked a lot about. 00:42:42
So that's kind of pivoting around to the South side of the lake. 00:42:45
And this is where Matt said that legacy grant money is going to go to right at the beginning is. 00:42:48
Reworking shelter for spending some money there, cleaning it up, cleaning up the restrooms, repaving. 00:42:53
Just generally improving that area. But with this, we talked about other things that could be introduced here. Boardwalk. 00:42:59
A kayak launch. We had a lot of interest from people just for an easy way to put walk boats in and out of the water to utilize the 00:43:06
lake more. 00:43:09
But also just cleaning up the parking lot and making it work better, getting rid of the old bridge that used to go to the island 00:43:12
that's been sitting in the middle of the parking lot for. 00:43:16
And you're something like that? 00:43:20
You know, so just improving this area and cleaning it up, and that's what that legacy of money is going to go to immediately. 00:43:22
And then the other area to really build energy on is the kind of the athletics area. Pickleball is a hit. 00:43:28
And the leagues are packing it in here, so. 00:43:34
Really building on that, adding some other amenities, you know, upgrading the pavilions, looking at a new restroom concession. 00:43:37
Possibly locker room. 00:43:44
Type facility where the existing pavilion is. 00:43:45
But then also reworking the parking there so it works better. It can accommodate bigger bigger groups. 00:43:48
Because right now it's it's. 00:43:54
It's a little challenging when there's a tournament going on, so trying to really make that more functional. 00:43:56
And then with that. 00:44:01
Cleaning up the lawns to the north there the old foot kind of football practice field. 00:44:02
Area and justice regrading that, reseeding it, making it nice. 00:44:06
And that'll be great for events, for parks. You know, that's the other thing there that's a real low budget item in the grand 00:44:10
scheme of these is. 00:44:13
Just kind of cleaning those things up. 00:44:17
So then the last piece is really the the fairgrounds. 00:44:19
You know, and one of the things we talked a lot about, we met with 4H quite a bit during this process is. 00:44:22
What does this look like on Into the Future? 00:44:27
And really Matt, I think brought it up in one of the meetings before H, it's really repositioning it as the fairgrounds in San 00:44:30
Peden Park. 00:44:33
So it's how do we think about knitting it back into the park? 00:44:37
Or not, it's never really been part of the part, but making it more part of the part. 00:44:40
And so that so that I can serve for more park functions. 00:44:44
So cleaning up some of the areas on the South side of the kind of the stream through the middle of the site. 00:44:47
So that it can function for youth sports, that sort of thing. And some of that's just taking out gravel roads. 00:44:52
Taking out some of the wiring and lights that are strung up there now. 00:44:57
But just making that more functional and then with that also improvements to Newland Hall. 00:45:01
It's just some some basic renovations and then the last piece. 00:45:06
It's kind of a trailhead parking lot cleanup at the end of the site where it can tie up the hill to the trail. 00:45:10
And Matt mentioned the. 00:45:15
The trail going up the hill, that's going to need some reinvestment just because of it's got a pretty significant failure right 00:45:17
now. 00:45:20
So that would be the last kind of piece. 00:45:24
For Community Park. 00:45:26
So All in all, you know it's there are a lot of little projects. 00:45:28
That add up to to quite a bit. 00:45:31
But they're all things that can be done very incrementally. 00:45:34
For Community Park, it's really just hasn't had any investment, significant investment in it. 00:45:37
And most of the facilities are about 70 years old. 00:45:41
Most of the underground utilities, most of the facilities there. 00:45:44
They've been maintained. 00:45:47
But there's a lot that just need to be. 00:45:48
You know, there's clay pipe, clay sewer pipe throughout the park that all needs to be redone, for example. 00:45:50
So that's that's. 00:45:55
Regional, so switching the regional part. 00:45:57
But the Regional Park? 00:45:59
We really looked at trying to say that the community park is going to be more the recreation oriented park. 00:46:01
Regional Park is going to be more focused on. 00:46:06
This kind of. 00:46:09
Natural. More natural spaces, more passive. 00:46:10
So we've got the Melvin and Vicki Jensen Nature Preserve, which opened last fall. 00:46:13
So the trails are being much used, so that's on the West side of the park. And then we introduce a road through the center of the 00:46:19
park that will ultimately connect over to Nova Park. 00:46:23
So the idea is that that becomes the main entry down the road with the fly over to the park. 00:46:27
North the North End of the park, we've got the. 00:46:33
Farmstead, so that's a historic Indiana Landmarks is designated as a historic property. 00:46:36
So spending some money fixing that up, renovating it. 00:46:41
The idea here again for probably a public private partnership where this could be an event space somebody operates. 00:46:45
And really, you know. 00:46:52
Turns it into this kind of great. 00:46:53
Like almost like a mini hubers is what we kept talking about it during the steering committee. Something that has kind of that 00:46:55
vibe. 00:46:58
The potential for a barn for weddings, that sort of thing. 00:47:01
And then also the opportunity for some potential 4H programming out here and that's still up in the air, but there was definitely 00:47:04
a lot of interest during the process. 00:47:08
And then on the South end of the side, it's more about some of the more active. 00:47:12
Components. So baseball softball complex is something that we HYR was a partner in talking through this early on. 00:47:16
So that's something that's been considered in the space. That's not a given. 00:47:22
You know, there's definitely flexibility there that those could, that could just be open lawn for. 00:47:26
Youth soccer or something else too. But the point is that that's sort of the best space in the site for for sports facilities 00:47:31
where on the north it gets real hilly and just doesn't work. 00:47:35
And then the last pieces are kind of an overlook area. There's a large bill on this side with a great overlook. 00:47:40
And then trying to pack in some some other amenities like a mountain bike trail down along the Interstate. We've got some. 00:47:46
Areas that really aren't easy to program because it's loud and. 00:47:52
It's next to the highway. 00:47:56
So that actually felt like a really good use and we've had a lot of interest from members of the mountain bike community to do 00:47:57
something like that. 00:48:01
So those are kind of the high, the high points for each of these. 00:48:04
And I'll hit on this, but like like. 00:48:08
We said we'll hand this out. 00:48:09
You know, we've, we've looked at phasing, we've looked at costs for all of these. 00:48:12
For Community Park, we've broken it up into multiple phases, but. 00:48:15
Again, this is meant to be a long term exercise. 00:48:19
You know, in our Phase 1 is really the one to focus on. 00:48:23
AT that's dealing with the hillside trail that's doing some basic improvements down at the 4H. 00:48:26
And then this legacy grant. 00:48:30
Piece that I mentioned. 00:48:32
The 1C on the top and bottom there are kind of gimmies because there are trails. 00:48:34
In the hillside there and it's just cleaning them up. 00:48:38
Which can be done with staff and volunteer work. 00:48:41
So it's just little pieces and we're not. 00:48:44
You know, these are these are kind of fluid numbers. 00:48:47
But hitting on those main elements and similarly, we've got this for you all for the Regional Park. 00:48:51
Kind of breakdown of phases. 00:48:56
And overall cost for each each piece. 00:48:58
And then in phase one, phase one is actually I'm going to jump ahead and then jump back. 00:49:01
Phase one is actually already partly funded through a land and water conservation grant. 00:49:05
So I think that was 270 two $175,000 has already been outlaid for this. 00:49:10
So to do some trails along Georgetown Creek and then up into the park, do some Meadow areas. 00:49:15
The potential for a trailhead. 00:49:20
So some of these things are already already rolling with the legacy grant, land and water conservation grant. 00:49:22
So as as Matt said, you know, really trying to build off that momentum and kind of keep. 00:49:27
Keep it rolling there so. 00:49:32
Any other any other thoughts on that map before? 00:49:34
No. And again, these are just brief overviews. I will send you a full copy and would welcome meetings and. 00:49:37
Anything on site you'd like to see or if you'd like to review the current conditions of? 00:49:43
Of Saint Pete Community Park, be happy to talk to you in a group or individual settings. 00:49:48
But we want to get the ball rolling and we want to keep momentum. 00:49:52
Consistently have some things. 00:49:56
That people can see we're doing our best. 00:49:58
Small staff in a small budget to make gains and improvements in our department. 00:50:01
Oh yeah, I do want to mention one of the things that you'll probably be hearing about. 00:50:08
There's a major geese problem that Sam Peden Community Park. 00:50:13
They leave a lot of waste behind. There's a lot of dedicated supporters of the geese that feed them even every day, even though 00:50:17
it's. 00:50:21
Against park rules to do so. 00:50:25
We've stepped up enforcement of that and we're working on maybe putting that into our ordinance very soon, but. 00:50:27
You know this parks crew that you've had for the last three years, we're we're doing a lot of programming. We're out and doing 00:50:33
things that really have not been done. And so with that. 00:50:37
You know, we've had some new events where you know. 00:50:42
Kids have you know. 00:50:45
It's just hard to mix geese waste with events and we're trying to do more. 00:50:47
Like football and Easter egg hunts and you can let your imagination. 00:50:50
Run wild from there. So this is a problem. 00:50:54
That we hear about a lot. 00:50:57
The Walking paths and trails through the park are just simply covered at certain times of years. 00:50:58
We brought in a number of people to help with this or get ideas on this, including Doctor Harris and the health department. 00:51:04
And we internally are getting ready to. 00:51:10
Allow some growth. 00:51:13
Growth, we're gonna have some vegetation areas and we're gonna follow a step by step plan, but there's a lot of non Canadian geese 00:51:14
birds in the park which we we need to rehome to be quite honest with you. 00:51:20
And ultimately, I'm not sure what will happen with some of the geese that is there. We have a population that is. 00:51:25
Very much entrenched in the park. They're not seasonal like most are. They are there. 00:51:31
In the snow, they are there all the time. 00:51:36
They go up to our shelter rentals and you know, people may not want to come back because other people love them. It's a mixed 00:51:38
thing, but we've got a process we're going to go through that will exhaust a number of options. 00:51:44
But for this park to be clean and tidy and. 00:51:50
Professional and serve the public and serve our events for the public like it should. 00:51:53
We're going to begin to work through this very soon, so. 00:51:57
Be happy to talk with you individually about that if there's any questions, but I do feel like that's something that you know. 00:52:00
There's people both ways on both sides of that issue that have vocal opinions. 00:52:06
I wanted to mention that at least to you tonight. 00:52:12
Do you have any questions or anything? 00:52:16
Anybody have any questions for me? 00:52:22
Comments. I won't want them. 00:52:24
Print outs over there. 00:52:26
Yeah, we have a, we have a print out for this. 00:52:28
So I'm showing off to all my friends. Are you gonna have a? Are you gonna have any consideration for any security out there? Yeah, 00:52:30
actually cameras or? 00:52:34
Yeah, we have security at Hammersmith, which we work with the police all the time. There's that park is so busy. 00:52:38
Pete needs security. 00:52:44
And we're going to be coming back to you in September. We're working with the Sheriff's Office to get some flocking cameras. 00:52:46
Which would not only make our parks safer, but would make the community safer be another. 00:52:53
Hit point for folks entering parks that we don't want there, that probably shouldn't be there, so we'll be. 00:52:57
Talking to you a little bit more about security, but right now at Saint Pete and. 00:53:03
Mr. Sarkis And there is no cameras there. Hammersmith There are some cameras. I was just thinking after you fix it all up, I don't 00:53:07
know. We want to go through this stuff, but before we. 00:53:13
Redo shelter for we need to get some other things. And the roundabout you're talking about, is that on parks property? Is that on 00:53:18
Grantland Road? 00:53:22
The new entrance potentially, yeah, that that's not on our property. That's more of a thing that could. 00:53:26
You know, be determined by the future that Firehouse Roundabout is an option. 00:53:32
Yeah. 00:53:36
It just needs to be. 00:53:40
It just needs to have its own designated. 00:53:41
Entrance and exit right. 00:53:44
It's really tough to get in and out there, especially if you're turning left out of there. 00:53:46
At times you wait through. 00:53:50
Several lights to get out. 00:53:52
Or a certain event with sheriff help. 00:53:55
Or if it come down to the signal. 00:53:58
It be better than what it is. 00:54:00
Signal Walmart be better than what it is. 00:54:02
Yeah. Any other questions? I just have a comment. I want to commend you, Mr. Dennison, for all you do for little. 00:54:05
I agree. 00:54:12
I agree. I mean, it's amazing what you do with little. 00:54:13
I was glad to see the article too that this is your forever job so. 00:54:18
It's an honor for sure. I want to thank our people, you guys. This council has worked with us the last couple of years. I'm going 00:54:23
to ask you, We're going to be at the table. I know we're. 00:54:28
Not at the top of the pecking order, but we're going to be at the table. 00:54:33
To let you know our concerns and let you know what we need. And I'm not sure how much that's happened or not, but we're going to 00:54:36
be there. We have great people. We've hired great people. 00:54:40
We've got committed people, some have been there way longer than me. 00:54:44
That work and have gotten some good raises thanks to many of you all but we have super people that are committed to do the job and 00:54:47
we work nights and weekends and. 00:54:52
Times other people don't and I'm so proud of our staff, that's what I'm most proud of. But. 00:54:56
Appreciate the compliments and I'll relay that to them. 00:55:00
Thank you and I will let you know that. 00:55:03
I had a line item for them put on the joint meeting because I missed the advertising for this meeting. 00:55:07
For help with that. 00:55:13
Walkway from community park down to 4H because. 00:55:15
If you haven't seen it, go out there and take a look right now. It's a liability. 00:55:20
It's in disrepair. 00:55:24
There's a lot of people who like to go from. 00:55:26
Top to bottom or back up? 00:55:28
And uh. 00:55:30
It's there's no good way to do it right now, and it's a. 00:55:31
It's a it's a liability needs to be taken care of. How much is it? 00:55:35
I put on 200,000. 00:55:39
Out of riverboat. 00:55:40
I do want to mention too, while we're talking about that I've been working with Horatio, there is a concern with the dam at 00:55:42
Kiwanis Lake as well. We're having a. 00:55:46
Company come in to look at it. 00:55:51
There's been a little bit of leakage. 00:55:53
And so that could be something we address with that potential money as well, the hill and the dam. 00:55:55
I may need some help. 00:56:01
So gotcha. 00:56:03
Thank you. Thank you for for all the work that was put into this. Thank you as well. Thank you. 00:56:04
Stand. 00:56:16
Thank you. And that's definitely a hard act to follow how we saw. 00:56:24
I always think about Matt a lot because. 00:56:27
Preceded that was Roger, Jefferson County. 00:56:30
Pave the way for some great parts here in Floyd County. 00:56:33
So we certainly. 00:56:36
Solely and give tribute to the team. 00:56:37
Areas and the commitments. 00:56:40
Here in Floyd County. 00:56:42
And congratulations to you, Mr. Taran. 00:56:43
Great thing in life, good things happen. 00:56:47
Thank you, Thank you the first time I've got on the agenda tonight. 00:56:50
For the red wire construction. 00:56:55
Project. 00:56:58
This is just to make sure that our Nova Park contractor gets paid properly. 00:57:01
The draws are coming in. 00:57:07
From the house money sitting in a interest bearing account so. 00:57:09
We're just waiting on. 00:57:13
I think Jules. 00:57:14
The distribution. 00:57:17
Which leaves us about 4000 shorter the current request, so. 00:57:19
But we won't spend until the. 00:57:23
Cash balance has been posted. 00:57:25
Motion to approve 6A. 00:57:27
Have a motion a second for 6A. Any discussion or questions for Stan? Stan, when is that building gonna be done? 00:57:30
That's a good question. They're working on the change order now, the building behind the red wire project, so. 00:57:37
I'm not exactly sure what the target end date is. I can find out and get that. 00:57:45
I was just curious. Yeah, we've heard it twice. It's moving along a pretty good clip. So yeah, Jeff. 00:57:50
Jeff and Charming Construction is doing a great job. 00:57:55
Trying to stay on top of everything. 00:57:57
Excuse me? 00:58:00
Any other discussion on 6A? 00:58:01
All in favor say aye. 00:58:04
Aye, any opposed that carries? 00:58:05
6B is using funds from the CARES Act. 00:58:09
Cover the old Vincennes project. So we're moving some expenses out of there to free up some money. 00:58:13
For Sydney and the road department to try to. 00:58:19
Get some of their equipment back under repair and some of the roads repaired. 00:58:21
It's been shared with me that they are currently out of money, so we're trying to find as many resources as we possibly can. 00:58:27
To get. 00:58:34
Their bills paid and to get things taken care of from the old department side. 00:58:35
I moved to approve 6B. 00:58:40
Have a motion and 2nd for 6B. 00:58:43
Any other questions? 00:58:45
On this item. 00:58:47
All in favor say aye. 00:58:49
Aye, any opposed? 00:58:51
C is a transfer. This is where we navigated the consolidation of the. 00:58:54
Building authority. 00:59:00
Into edits funds. 00:59:02
So we are taking away the. 00:59:04
Reducing the appropriations set forth in the rental lease agreement. 00:59:07
Using those where we appropriately need those to navigate. 00:59:12
The utilities, the facility operators, health insurance like a Hamburg. 00:59:16
Motion to approve. 00:59:22
Succeed as advertised. 00:59:24
Second motion to 2nd for 6C. Any questions or discussion? 00:59:26
Stan, I'm going to keep asking this, but this is purely a consolidation of line items, right? There's no. 00:59:31
Editions No. 00:59:37
This is just converting together. 00:59:39
Lease payment. 00:59:41
I know I like least asking the same question. You gotta make sure you can see an answer. 00:59:43
Any further discussion on 6C? 00:59:48
All in favor say aye. Any opposed? 00:59:51
He's been hanging around me today. 00:59:54
Dee, this is an additional appropriation request out of county general the all insurance line. 00:59:56
If you're not. 01:00:03
Familiar with the all insurance, there's a I think on the excuse me on the additional. I attached a copy of the invoice. 01:00:04
It's the umbrella policy, the auto policy, and. 01:00:11
I think there was a. 01:00:15
Forget what the other one was actually. 01:00:18
The property is cyber liability. 01:00:20
Insurance. 01:00:22
This lines have been held flat for the I think for the last three or four years there's been significant increases including. 01:00:23
24 to 25 is a 13% increase in insurance costs throughout the industry. 01:00:31
What I hope is that when we build 26 budget that we. 01:00:37
Engage in conversation to understand what the actual cost is. 01:00:42
To move forward with an appropriate number. 01:00:47
So this is actually to shore up the shortage for the one time annual liability invoice. 01:00:50
And then also I've tried to do some year end projections. 01:00:57
I think I've already fell sharp because we just got another invoice in. 01:01:01
From uh. 01:01:05
Eastern Alliance so. 01:01:06
Will be on the agenda for next month as well, but this is just to help get us back into a little bit better light. 01:01:08
With the. 01:01:14
Liability. The umbrella. 01:01:16
Policy. The auto policy. Property policy. 01:01:18
Side reliability policy. 01:01:20
And this doesn't. I'm sorry. I'll wait for it. 01:01:22
A motion before I'm sorry, I'll make motion. 01:01:24
That motion is second for 16. This also includes. 01:01:28
The amount that we owe the deductible. 01:01:33
On some stuff that we've had, is that included in there? The insurance deductibles are separate buildings, that's why. 01:01:35
I tried to reject out into you and I think I feel a little short on the numbers that we got just this month so. 01:01:41
Now, Stan, is this over above what? 01:01:47
Close to Smith. 01:01:49
When he met, he presented his former proposal about a week ago. 01:01:51
For 26. 01:01:54
So is this over and above what he? 01:01:56
Presented last year for 25. 01:01:58
Yes, Yeah, his number is actually, I think he talked about the overall coverages that were out there. I'm not sure. 01:02:01
To be honest, I remember much about the presentation, so my apologies. 01:02:08
But I know the number at 6:15 has been pretty well stagnant for the last three years and every year. 01:02:12
Operations and commissioners have come to ask for an additional just for the insurance coverage increases annually. 01:02:18
So I can work with him. I'll be glad to reach out. This is Calista Smith has determined this is an amount. 01:02:25
That way you still up. 01:02:32
Yes, yes, that's correct. 01:02:34
OK. 01:02:37
Yeah, the bill was like $839,000. 01:02:38
And that's only for half of the year, that's for the full year. 01:02:42
But they go from June to June. Well then we get monthly independent invoices based on different occurrences that may have hit so. 01:02:46
Their insurance deductible payments. 01:02:54
But isn't it? Doesn't it cover from June to June? 01:02:57
I'll be honest, I didn't look at the daytime frame. I'm sorry. 01:03:00
It is a June to June coverage. 01:03:04
Before the orphans come specifically, so this is this is. 01:03:07
This is an annual payment. 01:03:12
And to clarify, because I don't know that. 01:03:16
Coming across quite the way it needs to. 01:03:18
What Stanley is referencing is that. 01:03:21
Council for five years running have requested a flat budget from all departments. 01:03:24
So operations has never been able to actually budget the estimated cost of the all insurance. 01:03:29
For the incoming year, he is working on doing that for 2026 because the Council allowed us to do that this year. 01:03:35
But so for the last five years, operations has had to come and ask for additional appropriation to cover that annual cost because 01:03:40
they've not been allowed to actually budget for that annual cost. 01:03:45
All these increases that we considered. 01:03:52
Other bids or we look at other. 01:03:55
Other agencies. 01:03:58
So now we're seeing this significant jump. 01:04:00
Yeah, to my knowledge, we have not yet, Jim. 01:04:03
I think that's probably a good fiscal checkup, honestly. 01:04:05
I've always encouraged that from many perspectives. So I think Calista Smith gets quote. Actually I was. 01:04:08
I was at that meeting as well there as well and they. 01:04:15
Quite frankly, I'm not sure, Jim, to your point that even other insurance carriers. 01:04:20
He's so limited on people that don't wanna. 01:04:25
Ensure municipalities and because the Sheriff's Department, other things, we just don't want that. We don't want part of it. 01:04:28
There's only like 2. 01:04:31
Companies in the whole country. 01:04:36
That even do it. 01:04:37
For municipalities. 01:04:38
They shop. 01:04:42
Around around the country, but I think there's only two providers in the entire country that it would even give. 01:04:44
Yeah, for two quotes I think. 01:04:52
Any further discussion on this one? 01:04:57
Is it? 01:05:01
All in favor of 6D say aye. 01:05:04
Aye, any opposed? 01:05:07
That carries. 01:05:08
And I promise not to make these A through double C's everybody so. 01:05:10
660 is a software support. 01:05:16
This $1000 is to shore up and overrun in that particular line currently just to get us back into the positive. 01:05:20
Then the professional services request for 50,000. 01:05:28
This is for the repairs. 01:05:32
For a Pebble Creek study that has been conducted. 01:05:35
Where water is draining off into the catch basin near the intersection for Pebble Creek. 01:05:39
And during the winter, our cold months, it's freezing. 01:05:45
Hampering, uh. 01:05:49
Law enforcement fire. 01:05:50
Agencies, EMS, and even the residents themselves. 01:05:52
It's creating a very hazardous situation. 01:05:56
This 50,000 is a little bit more than the estimate to repair, which came in about 26,000. 01:05:59
However, we just wanted to put enough appropriations in place just to allow for some contingencies. 01:06:06
And again, this is all storm water money that's currently unappropriated in there. 01:06:11
1197. 01:06:17
I moved to approve 60. 01:06:19
Second, have a motion a second for 60. Any questions for Stan? 01:06:21
I have one is. 01:06:26
Pebble Creek, you say? The entryway. 01:06:28
I believe that's what is that a developer issue that he failed? 01:06:30
We developed it or is it failed since he developed it? 01:06:34
I'm going to say that something's developed over time, Dale. I'm not 100% sure, but I can certainly talk with Nick and operations 01:06:37
and find out things that you know. 01:06:42
Any further discussion? 01:06:49
All in favor of 6 E say aye. 01:06:50
Aye, any opposed? 01:06:53
That carries. 01:06:54
Number F is. 01:06:56
The Commissioners Capital Projects Fund. 01:06:58
To bring down independently, the first one is. 01:07:03
Into your projections. 01:07:08
And also to cover a current shortage that's in that particular. 01:07:10
6007. 01:07:15
A line for Community and economic development projects. 01:07:16
The next line is the. 01:07:22
Fleet Services. 01:07:24
This is the upgrade or update the fleet services. 01:07:25
That, uh. 01:07:28
Under contract with the Commissioners. 01:07:31
The IT cloud this is to reimburse funds that we had to use to make sure that a bond got paid. 01:07:34
It was handed to me to get paid by August the 1st and I got paid by transferring the money but. 01:07:42
I had to steal from somebody, so I'm asking that we restore Gary's money before he has a. 01:07:49
He kicks me in the shin. 01:07:54
And then the final one is. 01:07:57
Let's see. 01:08:01
Office the equipment. 01:08:01
I don't know how I got tagged this office equipment because this is actually an equipment line. 01:08:03
We need to get a new lift for the garage at the road department. 01:08:09
I won't share with you their current practices because. 01:08:13
They're not very safe and we need to get a new lift in place immediately so. 01:08:16
I'm sure they're perfectly safe. 01:08:22
Thank you. 01:08:28
I'll make a motion for 6F. 01:08:31
2nd. 01:08:33
We have a motion and a second for 6F. Any questions? 01:08:34
I'm going to ask you a question. 01:08:37
I've talked to you about some of this SO. 01:08:40
I didn't ask this question when we talked. 01:08:42
The vehicles could that. 01:08:46
Wait until we get a go bond in place and then we put those. 01:08:48
Vehicles in the Govan. 01:08:53
Till next year in January. 01:08:56
What we were looking at the the damaged vehicles from the. 01:09:00
Vandalism there and just try to get rid of those and. 01:09:03
Just try to get this moving, this whole process moving so. 01:09:08
I think it's, I mean it's, I guess it's there'll be enough. 01:09:11
Capital projects to cover what we're going to get from the Govan. So I'm OK with that. 01:09:15
Any further discussion? 01:09:23
All in favor of 6F say aye. 01:09:25
Any opposed? 01:09:28
That carries. 01:09:29
And G. 01:09:31
This is just the. 01:09:33
Contractual services out of the Chase building, we've actually run out of money, so we just incorporating some additional. 01:09:36
Spending authorities so that we can continue. 01:09:43
Paying for the contractual services at the Chase Building downtown Chase. 01:09:46
I'll make a motion for six. 01:09:54
2nd I have a motion in a second for 6G. 01:09:56
Any questions? 01:09:59
All in favor say aye. 01:10:02
Aye, any opposed? 01:10:03
Thank you very much. I appreciate it. 01:10:06
Thank you, Stanley Sharks. 01:10:07
Sheriff Steve Bush. 01:10:15
A couple weeks ago, you should have received some reports for our commissary report. In the past, we've had to turn those in twice 01:10:17
a year, usually in July and December. 01:10:20
New law passed and the legislators that. 01:10:24
Beginning of July 1st, we do it every quarter, so every. 01:10:26
To get for a year now and that schedule be put out or we'll put that out. 01:10:29
Do that every quarter. Also, we have to do some training. That's the new law. 01:10:33
Doesn't change the receipts and disbursements we're supposed to deliver. 01:10:37
And so we delivered those through e-mail. Jim did have some questions and I did speak with him this morning, some concerns. 01:10:40
Of some information that was not released in terms of. 01:10:46
In reference to a credit card, I think everything else was fine. 01:10:48
Understand, but the credit card was just a statement, so. 01:10:51
As an example, say there was something from River City work where Amazon. 01:10:54
Billy Joe's. 01:10:58
Food Mart. It didn't list what was spent from that particular vendor. 01:10:59
And So what we're going to do is move it forward. We're going to outline all that information so the credit card will be spelled 01:11:03
out. 01:11:07
We do keep receipts on file for State Board of accounts for the oversee it as well so. 01:11:10
Anybody's welcome to come and look at the box of receipts. 01:11:15
So the question really remains at this point what we sent. 01:11:17
Is not as. 01:11:21
Adequate as what say Jim, you know concerns were which is fine. 01:11:22
We can go back to the last six months and put that together, but you would not receive that for several weeks because there'll be 01:11:27
a lot of work to do that. 01:11:30
We believe that the statements that we sent were adequate, but. 01:11:33
Some concern for at least one council person. I want to make sure we make that right. 01:11:36
For moving forward, for sure, we'll have that done. 01:11:40
Where I think they'll be just fine. 01:11:43
The question is if you want us to go back to the last six months, we can do that. 01:11:44
You just won't get that for another. 01:11:48
Month probably and then in October's meeting will be turned in the next quarter technically will be the third quarter of this 01:11:50
year. 01:11:53
And and do it the right way in terms of having everything documented. So I think there'll be suffice from moving forward so. 01:11:56
I'm at your house. Pleasure. If you want to do it, we'll do it, but you won't get that for probably several weeks. 01:12:02
As we make sure we do this new documentation of how we're going to do that. 01:12:06
So it sufficed and for this board. 01:12:10
And if there's any questions from what we have right now as far as deposits, expenditures? 01:12:13
Be more than happy to answer those as well. 01:12:17
Well, as I said, my concern is that. 01:12:20
We're being given. 01:12:22
The responsibility, the oversight of this and with the information we have were not really. 01:12:24
And that's that's that's why. 01:12:31
Do you have any problem with him? 01:12:33
From this point on. 01:12:36
I asked if you have asked them. 01:12:37
Fine with waiting another month or so to get the rest. Get the old ones. I mean, I understand it's going to take a while to 01:12:39
collect that. 01:12:42
OK. Only question I can you give us like? 01:12:46
The total, what's in there? They're in the commissary right now. 01:12:49
So for right now, from January to July, we have spent. 01:12:52
$1,206,849.10. 01:12:56
We deposited 1,204,704 thousand $0.83. 01:13:00
And within the council there's different funds like E Cigs. 01:13:05
I don't play going real fast. I can give you this report, that's no problem. 01:13:08
But basically the different. 01:13:13
We have E Cigs we have. 01:13:15
We call a profit. 01:13:16
There's ODC and there's different amounts in these different line items within the console that makes up the total amount. 01:13:18
I saw this. 01:13:24
I just had. 01:13:25
I just got the State Board of. 01:13:25
Today, so I kind of went. 01:13:27
Proves to it so. 01:13:29
I saw where. 01:13:31
It looked like you made like 1.7. 01:13:33
Are one point. 01:13:36
6 range or something and you spent. 01:13:38
There were some figures on there I. 01:13:42
You had that pulled up by any chance that. 01:13:43
The figures, so we spent 1.2 million and we've taken in basically one. 01:13:46
Or we spent 1.2. 01:13:50
76 We spent 1.204. 01:13:52
OK. 01:13:54
What's the what's the balance is 882,000, but that includes a whole different. 01:13:55
Variety of different. 01:14:00
Funds within the balance area. 01:14:02
And you kind of do that by monthly. 01:14:04
You get the bounce you start out with and then as you gain money and yes, so what's in the reports that you got? I think it might 01:14:05
have been on there, it may not have. So we're looking at, you know what Jim's concerns, We've looked at how it's reported that 01:14:10
we're going to be sending you. So we're going to make sure we develop a document that has. 01:14:15
Each month we'll have beginning balance. At the end of that month, we'll have the ending balance and within you'll see all the 01:14:20
deposits that we made. 01:14:23
And all the receipts. 01:14:27
Or on disbursements that we made. So it'll be a little bit more clear, I think moving forward. 01:14:28
To your point, it looked good. 01:14:32
And some of that money is within 118,000. We don't just have 8. 01:14:35
Cash of 882,000 we have inmate trust fund that has to have so much we you know the. 01:14:39
One light item has to have at least a couple 100,000 so it can be purchased food ongoing. Sam probably wouldn't contest to or 01:14:44
knows. 01:14:48
So it's different things within that. 01:14:51
And we're always evaluating the commissary of what items we sell. 01:14:53
We've evaluated nicotine patches and we haven't done that yet. 01:14:57
You know you can make money that way. Of course ramen noodles is big. 01:15:00
Cheetos if you want or whatever the case may be so there's a lot of items in there that we you know, we have and by law we don't 01:15:04
have to have commissary but you know it makes like it's a good thing and we. 01:15:08
Try to manage it. It helps you out a lot too. Yes. And there's different things we spend out that we don't have to come to you 01:15:13
all. You know there is a statute that obviously Sam and I and Matt have talked about through our budget talks of an ordinance. 01:15:18
But we I think the direction we may go if I need something. 01:15:23
I'll come to you all and ask for that individually to keep it. 01:15:26
We all would agree on because on the 9th. 01:15:29
Statute number #9 if we agree mean the sheriff and the council agrees on an item that's on a build swimming pool. 01:15:32
And we agree to do that. 01:15:37
We can do it. 01:15:39
But we have to agree. 01:15:40
So I'll do that in the future. 01:15:41
To line that out eventually. 01:15:43
But as far as right now the compensate, we're managing that and staying within the statute the best that we can and understand it. 01:15:45
It's a lot of language there and a lot of things we want to make sure we're doing right. 01:15:50
So to Jim's point, the oversight. 01:15:54
Any further questions for the sheriff? 01:15:59
Thank you very much for the reports and thank you for coming in. 01:16:03
The stopping you were up. 01:16:07
Good evening. Side note. 01:16:14
Those use that Matt was complaining about earlier. 01:16:15
Until she moved, my daughter was a dedicated feeder of those geese. 01:16:19
Problem. 01:16:24
Problem #1. 01:16:26
Citation right there. 01:16:27
Fed them in a year, we're fine. 01:16:30
I'm covering for a few people. 01:16:34
So I have wit up first which is 8A. 01:16:36
This is just a line transfer that crosses categories. So we're decreasing one line and introducing their liability insurance. 01:16:39
Move to approve a day. 01:16:46
Second motion and 2nd for a day. Any questions? 01:16:47
All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? 01:16:51
That carries superior 3 is a similar situation where we are crossing line categories. So it does have to come before you. So we're 01:16:54
just decreasing one line. 01:16:58
And increasing another so there is no additional appropriations happening here. 01:17:02
Move to approve 8B. 01:17:06
Second motion and 2nd for 8D. 01:17:08
Any discussion? 01:17:11
All in favor say aye. 01:17:13
Any opposed that carries? 01:17:15
OK, so. 01:17:19
C is an additional appropriation. It's an additional appropriation in the public safety lit. This is something that. 01:17:20
The Council has discussed a couple times and did go ahead and ask me to go ahead and advertise for appropriation purposes. 01:17:26
There is a projected deficit in the jail lit fund. 01:17:33
So it was discussed to move some controlled costs over to the public safety lit for this year to make sure that. 01:17:38
We don't overextend those. 01:17:46
Jail lit dollars at the end of this year. 01:17:49
Due to the fact that at the end of last year we did have to shore up that fund. So this is just kind of preventing that from 01:17:52
happening this year. 01:17:55
It was projected to be over by about $900,000. 01:17:59
If they spent everything that they. 01:18:04
Currently have budgeted. 01:18:06
And so the controllable costs were? 01:18:08
Reallocated to this fund. 01:18:12
Should we wait till the end of the year to do this so we know exactly what I would ask that you not do that to me, because I would 01:18:15
have to go back through the entire year and adjust every single claim to reflect that. 01:18:20
These are controllable costs, they're contractual costs. 01:18:27
So there's not. 01:18:31
Gonna flux one way or the other. 01:18:33
You don't have to do all of them. You can do some of them. You can do none of them. 01:18:35
But if you do them at the end of the year, I will cry. 01:18:39
And that's the reason we chose these. I did not want you to cry. 01:18:44
These funds because they are contractual. 01:18:47
In the price is set. So yeah, I'll make a motion to approve 8C. 01:18:50
2nd. 01:18:54
We have a motion a second for eight. See any further discussion. 01:18:55
Seeing none all in favor say aye. Any opposed? 01:19:02
I appreciate it. 01:19:08
Floyd County Council Ordinance 2025-11 for transfer. 01:19:11
Entertain a motion for the transfers that we've done this evening. I'll make motion. 01:19:18
Go ahead, Second. 01:19:23
Did you? Yeah, I'll have a motion in a second for 9/8. 01:19:27
Any discussion on our transfers this evening? 01:19:31
All in favor say aye. 01:19:34
Aye, opposed. 01:19:35
That carries not be is the ordinance 2025-12. 01:19:36
Establishing a county vehicle excise surtax and county will tax. 01:19:41
That is going to be. 01:19:46
Tabled, since we have to advertise that. 01:19:49
And I saw that head. I'm sorry, I could have answered that for you early. That's going to be tabled because we have to advertise 01:19:53
that. 01:19:56
Now you have a big decision. 01:19:59
My Friday. 01:20:10
So what we're. 01:20:13
Have a first meeting on the 25th. 01:20:15
Yeah. So what we're looking at is. 01:20:17
1st. 01:20:20
Public public meeting and first reading on the 25th and then the 26th. 01:20:21
When we have our joint meeting if we need. 01:20:26
A second vote. 01:20:29
Everybody check your calendars for the 25th. 01:20:31
And make sure you're available. 01:20:37
August. 01:20:40
Yes, it has to be done before the end of this month. 01:20:41
What do we know what time that meeting? 01:20:43
I would suggest we do it at 6:00 PM. It's going to be a public hearing. 01:20:48
And then? 01:20:55
I couldn't do any earlier than sex. 01:20:56
So I'm good. 01:20:59
Is everybody OK for the 25th? 01:21:00
At 6:00 PM. 01:21:05
Is channel channel 41 OK? 01:21:07
It was my understanding that this was a user fee and didn't need to be advertised like a. 01:21:16
But I was corrected by. 01:21:20
Our attorney. 01:21:22
So we have. 01:21:25
We would have this hearing on the 25th and. 01:21:27
A joint meeting on the 26th, yeah. So we'll take our second vote then if needed. 01:21:30
OK, OK. 01:21:37
And that meeting on the. 01:21:38
Is that at 4:00 the meeting on the 26th joint meeting? Is 4:00 the public commissioners meeting? 01:21:39
Everybody good with that? 01:21:48
Yep. Laurie, can you send out an invite please? 01:21:49
For that. 01:21:53
6:00 PM. 01:21:55
And then it'll need to be added to the. 01:21:56
Meeting agenda as well for us to break out and. 01:21:59
Have a second vote. Public hearing 6 close that meeting. 01:22:04
To vote on it. 01:22:08
Right. Yeah, Public meeting at 6:00. 01:22:10
After after public input and comment, we will close the public hearing. 01:22:12
In open our meeting to vote. 01:22:17
And it's unanimous. 01:22:21
That's fine. 01:22:24
We ended there, No. Then you gotta have another boat. 01:22:26
OK, got it. 01:22:29
Everybody good with that? 01:22:30
Yes, Sir. 01:22:31
All right, 9C the go bond. 01:22:33
This is open. 01:22:38
Time for discussion, I will give you I sent out some thoughts on it. 01:22:40
Last week. 01:22:45
Umm. 01:22:47
Since talking with Stan and. 01:22:50
Some other people. 01:22:53
We've got some. 01:22:55
I originally said it at $3,000,000. 01:22:58
After talking with Stan and Nick. 01:23:03
I'll put in a. 01:23:06
Figure of 4 million and the reason for that is we've got some IT initiatives. 01:23:07
For. 01:23:13
Hardware that's out of date. 01:23:15
Some efficiency software that needs to be purchased. 01:23:18
And. 01:23:22
Are those in our current budget? We're going to remove them from our current Budget 26 budget and put them into the Go fund. 01:23:25
I haven't seen him. 01:23:32
You know, stand up that's on the current budget or not. 01:23:35
Yes, yes, the current IT plan is on. 01:23:41
Current budget, it's in the county general fund under Gary. 01:23:44
Department number is. 01:23:50
106. 01:23:51
So his his increase is. 01:23:54
500,000. 01:23:57
So that's why I come out of the budget. 01:24:00
To 4 million can I just. 01:24:04
Request maybe? Maybe stain can be our. 01:24:07
Point person and. 01:24:11
I'd like to have a list of. 01:24:13
The actual capital projects, these have to be capital projects. 01:24:15
So I would like to have a list of the capital projects that are we're going to be. 01:24:19
And it can go over 4 million, I don't care. But we just need to understand what those 4 million, that's part of my argument. 01:24:24
Because we're not talking about affecting the tax rate. 01:24:31
When we add dollars, we're just. 01:24:35
Extending the duration. 01:24:37
Correct, right? 01:24:39
So what we're doing is we're holding the tax rate for our constituents. 01:24:40
Flat instead of letting it go down. 01:24:46
So I mean it is a tick tock. 01:24:49
Tax impact, Yeah, it's still, it's costing the taxpayers money. It it is. 01:24:51
I understand that, but with as much as we have going on in the county and. 01:24:57
Underfunding the way that we are, I just. 01:25:02
I'm not disagreeing, I'm just saying we put a tax in last year. 01:25:05
Huge, huge tax not even laid out. And we had no idea. We asked. I asked over and over again. 01:25:09
How that money was going to be used. And here we are today, a year later. 01:25:18
And still. 01:25:23
Just now. 01:25:26
Using that money. 01:25:28
Something like you said in the past, Denise, I think anytime we do something like this, we should be offsetting the public safety 01:25:29
tax by an equivalent revenue amount. 01:25:34
So that our taxpayer is not paying anything additional because I think. 01:25:39
I still don't believe that tax last year. 01:25:43
Way beyond what was necessary. 01:25:46
And I will come back at our taxpayer and want more from them or take more out of their pocket is what we're doing. 01:25:49
I absolutely agree. So anyways I I would. 01:25:55
I would request that before we. 01:25:59
Have an ordinance in front of us that we have at least. 01:26:02
A list of what we're going to use this for. 01:26:07
What's that? 01:26:11
Go ahead. 01:26:12
Just just a reminder. 01:26:19
That. 01:26:22
The Form 3 is for our projected budget for next year. 01:26:23
Go to the state on August 29th. 01:26:25
The bond. 01:26:28
Has to be listed on that. 01:26:29
So if you choose to do it, you have to do it. 01:26:31
This month. 01:26:33
OK. Just a reminder. 01:26:35
Out there. So I did try very hard to make sure that everyone was aware. 01:26:36
That by the end of August, a lot of this stuff would have to be settled. 01:26:40
We're in the middle of August. 01:26:44
And once I file those things with the state. 01:26:46
There's not really any adjusting it at this point and so you lose it for 2026 as a reminder. 01:26:49
What's the process for making sure we meet those deadlines? 01:26:55
Do we need to get it on an agenda? Do we need to advertise? What is that actual? 01:26:59
You can adopt that ordinance at. 01:27:04
Any meeting as far as I'm aware. 01:27:07
One reading, but it has to be two. 01:27:09
If it's not. 01:27:12
If it's unanimous, correct, unanimous. So you have two meetings currently scheduled, 1 is a public hearing and 1 is a joint 01:27:13
meeting. So they can always be thrown on there. But my point is, is that on August 29th, I will be filing our Form 3 with the 01:27:17
state. 01:27:21
So it's either on there or it isn't. And if it's in, you don't get it next year, but we can put it on there. 01:27:25
And not do it. 01:27:31
On the obvious key. 01:27:33
Yeah. So we should, we should also affect the rates that they tell me to put as far as. 01:27:34
Your CNAB and our taxing rates for next year so. 01:27:40
It's it it creates issues. 01:27:43
I want to clarify. 01:27:46
The the wording that we're using here. 01:27:49
These are Commissioner projects. 01:27:52
The commissioners and I talked to. 01:27:54
Commissioner Knable this morning from Ireland. I guess it was afternoon for him, but it was morning for me. 01:27:56
And he said. 01:28:03
Bridge 27. 01:28:04
And parks. And it was well beyond. 01:28:06
$4 million. 01:28:09
The the list of projects that they had and he had more than that he didn't have in front of him. 01:28:11
But. 01:28:18
That 4 million goes to the commissioners for their projects. 01:28:20
Half of that comes back to us. 01:28:24
Not dedicated to projects. That's how this was supposed to work the last time. 01:28:28
And that's how. 01:28:32
The agreement between. 01:28:33
Council and Commissioners is written up this time. I think we should. 01:28:36
I I think these are capital projects and we should agree on what we're going to spend the 4 million on. 01:28:41
And this stuff about sharing is is is. 01:28:46
It's it's the taxpayers money. We just need to decide how the best way to spend the capital dollars that we're going to spend. 01:28:49
And sharing it is. That's not the way this Gobon is supposed to work. 01:28:59
It's capital projects. 01:29:04
We spend it on capital project. 01:29:06
We spend it on half a million of it to get. 01:29:08
Equipment for the IT and it comes out of the budget. 01:29:12
Well, the four million will be spent on capital projects. It has to be. 01:29:16
I understand that, but we need to understand, we need to agree with the Commissioners how we're going to spend the capital money. 01:29:20
Not split it. 01:29:26
We're not going to use these. We're not. We're not splitting it. 01:29:28
Commissioners are getting $4 million. 01:29:31
They're giving back $2,000,000 out of their budget. 01:29:34
So. 01:29:37
It's it's, it's crazy talk. 01:29:38
As far as I'm concerned, I don't know why it's crazy to you now, because this is what we agreed to last time. Last time. 01:29:41
And it turned out. 01:29:47
How horrible we've got. 01:29:49
A document now. 01:29:51
I don't agree with it, but you guys, I mean I'm only one person. I think we should agree on 4,000,005 year period. 01:29:52
For your period, it can be from. 01:30:01
We get it upside. 01:30:03
We get it up front, but I mean, but then we have to pay for it back about a three-year period, five year period. What's what's it 01:30:04
gonna be the terms? 01:30:07
It can be up to 7. 01:30:11
We we decide that when, when it goes to market. 01:30:14
How we want to market it. 01:30:17
And then? 01:30:18
Also to your point, Denise, I thought we. 01:30:20
Not it hadn't been formal, but it's pretty much understood we're going. 01:30:23
The sheriff's of vehicles with. 01:30:27
That go up on money. 01:30:29
From what I understand, that's what I. 01:30:30
That's a one time thing and the sheriff needs cars every year. 01:30:33
You know. 01:30:37
I'm OK with using part of it. That's what I said we need to understand. 01:30:38
Between all of us. 01:30:44
Put a list together. 01:30:46
Let's get stained to put the list together. How are we going to spend the 4 million? 01:30:47
And let him. 01:30:51
The Commissioners can can give us that that list. 01:30:52
OK, you said in the last meeting. 01:30:57
We should bond. 01:30:59
Sheriff's vehicles. 01:31:00
I do. I think so too. 01:31:02
But since then? 01:31:04
I do understand that that is a every year. 01:31:06
Saying and and this is. 01:31:10
You know, umm. 01:31:12
I I do think we should do that. 01:31:14
I don't think we should split the money. 01:31:18
I think it just causes. 01:31:20
All kinds of. 01:31:22
It's not the way this Gobon is intended to work. 01:31:25
It's not. 01:31:28
I'm going to ask you to add that to the 25th agenda as well. 01:31:30
Yes. 01:31:34
OK, so we will have a list of projects. 01:31:36
For everybody to look over. 01:31:40
The commissioners need help. 01:31:45
They need the funding. 01:31:46
They they would love to see it go higher. 01:31:49
But uh. 01:31:51
This this funds. 01:31:56
The projects that they have to pay. 01:31:58
Forward. 01:32:00
At the beginning that they get reimbursed for. 01:32:02
This goes into their rotating till for projects that they get reimbursed for but they have to pay for up front. 01:32:04
So. 01:32:10
We know we we know Blackston Mill. 01:32:12
Is going to get replaced. 01:32:14
Bridge 27 is going to. 01:32:16
A major overhaul. 01:32:18
We just saw a presentation from the parks. 01:32:21
Some of that. 01:32:23
Not doable. 01:32:27
But a large part of that is just to keep parks. 01:32:28
Going. 01:32:32
For a shelter tonight. 01:32:33
Fall down. 01:32:35
So. 01:32:37
There will be more projects than. 01:32:38
This will even touch. 01:32:41
And I will get a list of those and make sure everybody gets a copy of it in their e-mail before that meeting. 01:32:43
OK. 01:32:51
I would also like to see at that meeting. 01:32:54
Like Jim was saying. 01:32:58
Are we gonna are we gonna reduce PRT or get rid of PRT or are we gonna reduce? 01:33:01
Public safety. 01:33:05
In the amount of these two wheel tax and go bond. 01:33:07
Taxes that we're putting in place. 01:33:11
Are we going to reduce something so that? 01:33:13
Our constituents come out net. 01:33:15
Zero increase in taxes. 01:33:18
You can certainly propose. 01:33:22
Any amendment that you would like? 01:33:25
My personal opinion is. 01:33:28
We have two years remaining. 01:33:29
We're uncertain of. 01:33:31
What that's all going to look like, We know we're going to do something with EMS. 01:33:34
And, umm. 01:33:38
We know we're going to do something with the Ms. Nobody's presented anything. We have a contract coming up, but. 01:33:39
I haven't. I mean next year. 01:33:45
So it's it's my personal opinion that we let it run its course. 01:33:51
I would. 01:34:04
I would ask. 01:34:05
I'll put it in. 01:34:07
To ask Steve to write a resolution to. 01:34:08
Reduce the public safety tax by two basis points. 01:34:11
I don't know, there's much appetite to reduce the. 01:34:15
Property tax Relief Fund because. 01:34:18
Of what it does to the. 01:34:21
The other taxi units that the schools are getting hit. 01:34:23
Farm so I brought that up also. 01:34:27
So I don't, I don't think there's a whole lot of. 01:34:29
No, I think it needs to be publicly. 01:34:31
OK. 01:34:34
Any other comments? 01:34:36
I look for a motion to adjourn. 01:34:41
So moved. 01:34:42
We are adjourned. 01:34:45
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For Tuesday, October 12, 2025, please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:02
Pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:00:07
The United States of America. 00:00:09
And to the Republic for which it stands. 00:00:11
One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:14
Right. 00:00:22
Please let the record reflect that we have a full quorum tonight. 00:00:24
Mr. Backshall, would you lead us in prayer, please? 00:00:30
Oh Lord, as we come before we every month. 00:00:34
At this meeting, we have an opening prayer. 00:00:36
I would thank you each time that we're. 00:00:39
Live in America. 00:00:41
Or there's freedom of liberty. 00:00:42
The medium, public and open meeting without fear of retribution. Or we can. 00:00:44
Meet anywhere coffee shops all across because of freedom of liberty and help us never to lose our gratitude for freedom of 00:00:48
liberty. 00:00:51
Or be with this council tonight. 00:00:55
And and the the next month as we go through this budget. 00:00:57
Process or give us the wisdom and the knowledge to make prudent choices for the betterment of our community. 00:01:00
Lord Jesus, be with our soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines today as they. 00:01:06
Defend freedom around the world. 00:01:10
Please be with our first responders today. 00:01:12
Our firemen, our police, our EMS keep them safe as they keep us safe. 00:01:15
And oh God, please, I pray for the peace of Jerusalem today. In your name, Amen. Amen. 00:01:20
All right, acceptance of tonight's agenda. 00:01:26
Some of 2nd. 00:01:32
Have a motion a second for tonight's agenda. Any discussion? 00:01:33
All in favor say aye aye. 00:01:38
That passes approval of minutes from our July 8th meeting. 00:01:41
So moved. 00:01:47
2nd I have a motion a second for July 8th meeting minutes. Any discussion on those? 00:01:48
All in favor say aye aye. 00:01:53
Any opposed that carries before we get to public? 00:01:55
I want to recognize one of our own who is still glowing down at the end. 00:01:58
Being joined in wedded bliss, Mr. 00:02:03
Mr. Tony Duran. 00:02:07
Is a newlywed. 00:02:09
So congratulations. 00:02:10
Thank you. 00:02:12
Thank you. 00:02:14
Right. Is there anyone from the public that wish to speak before we get started tonight? 00:02:16
All right, seeing none, we've got New Albany Township Fire Protection District. 00:02:21
Good evening. 00:02:31
Ruben Cummings with GFC on behalf of the fire. 00:02:32
District in. 00:02:36
What you have is a. 00:02:37
They have sold two pieces of equipment, a ladder truck and a submersible. 00:02:39
That they deemed they did not have a need for. 00:02:43
That totaled $1.151 million. 00:02:46
One way and 151505. 00:02:50
What they're asking for is for that entire amount to be. 00:02:53
Additional appropriation so they can continue to pay down debts on some other existing trucks. 00:02:55
But they do have. 00:03:01
Told them any dead before they walked into the territory. 00:03:02
Other than their. 00:03:05
Dead on the bill on the station, that was from 2000 and. 00:03:08
Eight or something, otherwise no equipment that will be had if you approve that. 00:03:11
Is there a motion for 1A? 00:03:17
It's all moved. 00:03:20
Second motion, Second. Any questions for Ruth? 00:03:21
Seeing none, all in favor say aye. 00:03:27
Aye, any opposed? 00:03:29
1st, I'll see you in a few weeks for budgets, right? Thank you very much. 00:03:31
Doctor Harris and the health Department. 00:03:35
Whoa, I don't know. 00:03:46
I'm Doctor Tom Harris from the Foote County Health officer would be can I do the chairman of our board, Doctor Gwen Jensen. 00:03:52
I don't think your mic's working. 00:04:00
Basically, what we're looking at tonight is want to brief you guys on where we stand with the property at 3317 Grant Line Rd. 00:04:05
An image of which you see. 00:04:12
Supposedly in front of you there. 00:04:14
So I guess the first question is why do we need a new home? 00:04:17
As most of you are aware, the county commissioners have secured the building for us. 00:04:21
The primary reason is we're we're out of space the the new facility has. 00:04:26
A significant amount of square footage we're now crammed into about 3500. 00:04:31
We go through the study five years ago, they looked at the health department in 20 years and basically what we did with that study 00:04:37
is we established that the Floyd County population is going to increase .25 to .5% per year. So we we've had consistent growth 00:04:43
since the 80s. There's no reason to expect that that will stop. 00:04:49
3rd and perhaps maybe the most important reason. 00:04:56
Is we are homeless after September 30th 2026? 00:05:00
Since the hospital. 00:05:05
Was sold to the Baptist back in 2016. 00:05:07
We have been existing rent, utility and maintenance free and a facility that we've. 00:05:11
Drastically overgrown. 00:05:16
In the picture there you see one of our employees, Brian Potter, who is actually working in the closet. 00:05:18
We have multiple staff members sharing offices we actually count. 00:05:24
Mosquitoes, which we submit for West Nile testing in Saint Louis. Equine encephalitis testing. 00:05:28
After hours and then. 00:05:36
We use the lobby as a storage area. There's no place to park and the building that we're in is has four separate electrical fires 00:05:39
within the last year. 00:05:43
And we do not have consistent generator backup now. 00:05:48
So we've outgrown it and outlived it in some ways. 00:05:51
So the new facility on Grant line as you see there. 00:05:56
Is the first floor. 00:06:00
For those of you familiar with this building, was originally a branch. 00:06:02
Bank on the first level with offices on the second level. 00:06:05
If you look. 00:06:10
At the left side of your screen. 00:06:12
You'll see those areas will be converted into. 00:06:15
Offices and. 00:06:19
Examination rooms. 00:06:21
If you look down in the lower right hand, there's a large multi. 00:06:23
Function room that we can do education in. 00:06:27
And then there is an overhang with three drive through slots originally for banking, but we want to convert that area to allow 00:06:29
outdoor activities, the car line that we ran during COVID and things like that. Those of you all who are familiar with this 00:06:36
freezing out there during the winter for a couple years, this is this is a very attractive structure to us. 00:06:43
On the second floor. 00:06:51
You'll see that basically the top 50% of the screen is the health department in the bottom. 00:06:52
Is umm. 00:06:58
The other county offices that would be moving into the building. 00:07:00
If you look at the dedicated square footage. 00:07:04
About 34% of the dedicated square footage of the building is for somebody other than the health department. 00:07:07
However, if you look at operational funding. 00:07:14
The health Department's the only one who's actually kicking in money for the budget. 00:07:17
For the construction out of our budget. 00:07:22
So we came up with option A. 00:07:25
Option A as a result of several meetings involving the. 00:07:28
Floyd County Health Department staff myself. 00:07:31
Board members, a commissioner, the Floyd County Operations Director, architect and architectural representatives. 00:07:34
Most of the cost involved in this is related to the first floor conversion. 00:07:42
As you can imagine, going from an open. 00:07:47
Floor plan branch bank to. 00:07:49
Cubbyholes of offices and exam rooms requires a lot of plumbing changes on electrical changes. 00:07:52
And preferably generator driven plugs throughout the building. 00:07:59
Option B. 00:08:04
Was generated at the request of 1 Commissioner. It was done on a short. 00:08:06
Notice done quickly. 00:08:10
With much less involvement with only one board member of the architect Director of operations in the airport, County 00:08:13
Administrator. 00:08:16
So in glorious low definition, there you can see the two options side to side. 00:08:21
The first and one on the left hand side of the screen was the original definition. 00:08:27
Some of the contentious or. 00:08:32
Not really optional, but some of the contentious. 00:08:35
Line items are listed in yellow. 00:08:38
And then you can see the the bottom line difference down in the corner for. 00:08:41
Both estimates. 00:08:45
So what do we lose if we cut back to option B? 00:08:48
Well, there's the asphalt resurfacing. 00:08:51
There's the drive through clinic which is off pandemic proven need and it allows outdoor operations if it's raining and that's a 00:08:54
fairly key function. 00:08:58
But also. 00:09:01
About 150 to $200,000 investment. 00:09:02
We don't really know if. 00:09:06
Prepare or not, the initial evaluation of the building was negative for that. 00:09:08
The general county offices. 00:09:13
With option B, really don't get much of A refit or adjustment at all. There's they're going to move into the existing spaces. 00:09:15
There's exterior signage loss. We also have less budgeted for audio video capability. 00:09:23
And that reduction damages our ability not only to educate the population, but also revenue. 00:09:29
Because our goal, one of our goals, is to increase the number of people who are CPR trained by half a percent per year in the 00:09:34
county. 00:09:37
Each time we do that, we make between 40 and $50 per person. We're looking at about 500 people a year. 00:09:41
500 So that's a significant amount of income that we'd have to reduce the size of the classes and we'd be avoiding the intake. 00:09:47
Also with a cutback, we lose a fenced in area in the parking lot where we can more securely store equipment. 00:09:56
And the trailers that we used to respond at different events. 00:10:04
We lose 2nd floor storage and we have. 00:10:08
Under option B. 00:10:12
And perhaps the most important things is we have much smaller emergency generator. 00:10:13
Basically under option B we just have enough generator to cool the vaccine. 00:10:18
And to put that in perspective, we have. 00:10:23
On any given day, close to $300,000 worth of vaccine in the building, so we have to have some. 00:10:26
Sort of battery backup. 00:10:32
Essentially a gas driven generator back up to limit the potential loss of a significant amount. 00:10:35
Of treasure there. 00:10:40
Additionally, with option A, we had planned to have a generator. 00:10:42
Power the whole building I think. 00:10:46
Everybody's been to a hospital. You've seen red plugs on the wall. 00:10:49
Yeah, where do you have the the plugins? 00:10:52
The red plugs are generated plugs. 00:10:54
And so if you have. 00:10:56
Generator capability throughout the building. That building becomes an ITIS for response. You can you can organize responses out 00:10:58
of it. 00:11:02
You can house people temporarily if you need to. You can provide services. 00:11:05
And respond to your disaster and community damaging events so. 00:11:09
That's one of the major things we use with option B. 00:11:14
And then, you know, there are a couple of other things that include an option. They like landscaping. 00:11:17
And window treatments that. 00:11:22
Might be a source of potential cutback. 00:11:24
One of the other concerns is that if we do go to some sort of phased renovation that we would have interference with ongoing 00:11:28
operations by follow up. 00:11:33
Projects. 00:11:37
So we have the building open, we have a lot of foot traffic in it every day and then we have issues with say, you know. 00:11:38
Asphalt resurfacing in the lot. 00:11:44
To limit our services. 00:11:47
So if we're looking at funds, there's about $800,000 of accounting. 00:11:50
About $300,000 leftover from the bond. 00:11:56
There's about $161,700 from me. 00:11:59
HFI funds. 00:12:03
And that leaves a total appropriation of about 1.2 million. 00:12:05
So to complete this project with something close to option A, we're going to need additional money. 00:12:09
If we go to option B, we need $6000, but we get much less capability as a result. 00:12:16
Now the the one thing that has. 00:12:23
Damaged our ability to internally. 00:12:25
Fund this to a greater extent. 00:12:27
Is the HFI model. 00:12:29
As I'm sure most of you know the the governor, Brian. 00:12:31
Dramatically decreased the the funding for the HFI program. 00:12:35
We went from a yearly. 00:12:39
Contribution of $1.4 million to yearly contribution of about $400,000. 00:12:42
So, and of those funds from HFI, only 10% can be used on capital gains per year. 00:12:48
And that 10% includes all. 00:12:55
So if we buy. 00:12:58
For example a vehicle or if we need yeah. 00:12:59
Computers, things like that. 00:13:01
That also impacts that 10% total. 00:13:03
Coming from HFI. 00:13:06
So where can where can we find some money? So sources first of all. 00:13:08
The ban funds could be increased from 2.8 million to 3.2 million. 00:13:13
The local income tax. 00:13:19
Proceeds. 00:13:22
Conceivably use. 00:13:23
Be used on public health. 00:13:25
And we know that we're going to have more income. 00:13:27
Tax then would be required for the EMS service. 00:13:30
The council could increase the amount of the tax levy didn't get. 00:13:35
Bake sales aren't really an option. 00:13:39
And to put this in context, the cost is still going to be much less than the estimated 5.47 million. 00:13:42
That renovation of the rice. 00:13:50
Cost and that's in 2017 dollars. 00:13:52
So this is still a much more economic option. 00:13:55
The other sort of. 00:14:01
Thing to consider is is that. 00:14:03
The county has not. 00:14:05
Had maintenance funds, utility funds, or rent for the. 00:14:07
For the last 10 years for this offering of our service. 00:14:10
So taxpayer benefits, so no benefit to really postponing construction. 00:14:14
Tariff concerns on inflation. 00:14:19
Interference with daily operation and loss of incomes on services that we can't provide if we just don't have the space to do it. 00:14:22
The building's already been procured but needs to be converted. 00:14:30
From a branch bank to a public health medical facility. 00:14:33
Doing the renovational. 00:14:37
Doing the renovation correctly is a generational solution. 00:14:39
That preserves capability, services and options for the next 30 years if you follow. 00:14:42
The increase in population. 00:14:46
And even assume that it's on the upper end at .5%. 00:14:48
Year, we will still have enough space in this building to provide the adequate number of nurses. 00:14:51
Environmentalists and records people. 00:14:58
To cover. 00:15:01
Throughout the next 30 years, So it's not like this is a solution. I'm going to fix the place and they're going to have to move 00:15:02
out of a building. 00:15:05
You know, within a few years. 00:15:09
To provide the service. 00:15:11
And the last slide is? 00:15:18
Questions. 00:15:21
There we go, and I would also like to extend the opportunity. 00:15:23
People want to walk the battlefield with us. You're welcome to come out. 00:15:27
And we can go through the building. 00:15:31
And kind of see the train and it makes it a bit of a difference I think if you if you sort of realize what the issues are. 00:15:33
But our concerns are is that if we try to do this on the cheap. 00:15:40
That the loss of capability. 00:15:45
Makes that not cheap at all that it's just going to require additional funding or retrofitting down the road with the potential 00:15:48
loss of function and income in the short run and. 00:15:53
A loss of operational activity in the long run. 00:15:58
And so we, we, we are striking now before. 00:16:03
The the budgets are of course, fully finalized. 00:16:08
And we wanted to talk to you guys and get and get the word out there. 00:16:12
And try to get a feeling and try to review all guys where we are. 00:16:16
We have. 00:16:22
To be out of our building in September 30th in 2026. 00:16:23
There's not going to be extensions. The hospital wants this out sooner. 00:16:28
And in fact, that building may actually. 00:16:32
Questions. 00:16:40
Why? I have a couple comments. I guess we I. 00:16:42
Had Dalen on with them, talk with the health department we had there. 00:16:47
Their budget and we talked about this. 00:16:52
Quite, quite extensively when we were there. 00:16:55
So can we go back to the two quotes? 00:17:00
That you had lights on by side. 00:17:04
Yeah. 00:17:06
So the the. 00:17:09
I think what we're getting at here is that. 00:17:10
We have. 00:17:15
Something that will cost. 00:17:16
2.7. 00:17:18
Or. 00:17:19
If we don't do everything, and he laid out specifically what we're not going to do, it's going to be. 00:17:20
Approximately 1.2. 00:17:26
And to get to the one point. 00:17:30
2 million. 00:17:33
Umm, we there's, there's sort of two scenarios here if we go with the ban. 00:17:37
The ban right now is at 2 point. 00:17:43
7. 00:17:46
65. 00:17:47
And if. 00:17:49
And we paid. 00:17:51
2.2 for the building. 00:17:53
I said 2.2 or 2.1. 00:17:55
2.2 So that leaves us 500,000 on that van. 00:17:57
So and then the CARES Act money. 00:18:02
Was another 800,000. 00:18:06
Right. And you laid all this out on another slide. 00:18:08
I think and then you had an additional 140. 00:18:12
So I. 00:18:20
Think that gave us. 00:18:21
1.4 million. 00:18:24
To be able to do the renovations with staying with the current man. 00:18:26
So. 00:18:31
I think the ask is we really want to do this right. 00:18:33
How can we get more money? 00:18:36
In addition to the $1.4 million that we have available to us right now and the. 00:18:38
One of the things that we came across during this discussion is. 00:18:44
If we. 00:18:50
Umm, we. 00:18:51
That we can pay. 00:18:54
Off the band and bond this up to. 00:18:56
3.2 million. 00:18:59
Which gives us another half million dollars. 00:19:01
Now that means we have to bond this and I know there was talk about. 00:19:04
Paying this off. 00:19:08
But that gives us another 500,000 and that gets you close to 2 million. 00:19:11
So my ask. 00:19:16
Would be Can we do something in between the two? 00:19:18
For 2 million. 00:19:21
Yes, that's always an option. 00:19:23
Yeah. And that's what I would like to see. That's that's where we go ahead and bond this all the way up to the 3.2 million. 00:19:24
And then we. 00:19:32
Use the other. 00:19:34
Revenue sources. 00:19:36
And do a $2,000,000 renovation and kind of. 00:19:38
Cut this. 00:19:42
Now, right, right in the middle, I'm tracking with you. Keep in mind, these are. 00:19:42
Estimates from an architect and not a contractor. Until there's an RFI, we don't really have a hard amount and if you look at the 00:19:48
the form there, there is a 12%. 00:19:54
You know variation there, right? The potential cost? 00:20:01
Because the uncertainties in the market and things like that. 00:20:04
500,000 of that goes to the county offices at. 00:20:08
500,000. 00:20:13
Right, right. And that that's a good point. 00:20:15
Who are not contributing operational dollars. 00:20:18
It's like the coroner is not contributing anything to this renovation, but this is a county building for all. 00:20:21
The bulk of it in the bulk of the renovation is on the 1st floor. 00:20:28
Correct price. 00:20:32
I I mean I. 00:20:34
My view is. 00:20:35
And I think you're just asking for some feedback here. 00:20:37
Because the next step, I believe is to send out our RFI's, right? That's exactly correct. Yeah, that we need some sort of guidance 00:20:41
on, on where to aim. 00:20:45
Yeah, the RFI's there. 00:20:49
My I would hope that we could get this done by. 00:20:51
For 2 million and that we could. 00:20:53
And that we could. 00:20:57
Go ahead and bond this. 00:20:59
Over a. 00:21:01
20 year period. I think I calculated something. 00:21:02
On that. 00:21:06
$250,000 payment a year I think is what I calculated anyway. There's 250 to $300,000 payment a year. 00:21:10
In one of the issues that alluded to, but without saying specifically is is that the DHF by cutbacks really kind of. 00:21:18
Was a problem here. 00:21:26
You know, before we were counting on $140,000 per year that we could spend on capital improvement. 00:21:28
Right. And this which would have paid for almost payments for this and over, over the course of ten years basically pay for the 00:21:34
difference, but we're now down to something along the lines of 40,000. 00:21:40
Maybe even closer to 38. 00:21:46
Per year. So there's been a huge cutback in HFI available funds and and that dramatically limits our ability to internally fund 00:21:48
this. 00:21:52
Well, I agree with. 00:21:57
Denise, we need to move forward with getting. 00:22:00
RFI's and our. 00:22:02
I think our guidance is. 00:22:04
Or at least for what? 00:22:06
The only do they've spoken so far is. 00:22:08
You know. 00:22:11
I'm not against bonding it. 00:22:13
And. 00:22:16
You know, I would prioritize. 00:22:18
In an RFI. 00:22:21
The things you have and the things that you want in that neighborhood and. 00:22:24
We get. 00:22:29
Quotes back that are. 00:22:30
Better than anticipated. 00:22:32
We can fit it under the cap and if we get. 00:22:34
Cost back that are worse than anticipated. We're going to have to take a second look at. 00:22:37
About how we move forward. So we want it done right. We want it done at today's dollars. 00:22:41
I will caution. 00:22:48
Before you repave the parking lot or whatever. 00:22:51
Get with me because I'm working on a plan to. 00:22:54
Redo that entrance. 00:22:59
To the stoplight. 00:23:01
And make that way more accessible. 00:23:02
And, and, and add, add a little bit there. We'd like to get TARC involved and potentially put in a shelter out there as well. So 00:23:06
that'd be fantastic. Yeah, I think the road department might be able to. 00:23:11
Well, it's it's city, so I'm speaking with some some folks there to. 00:23:16
I'm talking about Rd. department maybe though. 00:23:22
Help us redo the paving right? 00:23:24
So I wouldn't Even so is there other comments and questions I got up. 00:23:27
I guess it's more of a Nick question. 00:23:31
How old is that roof? 00:23:34
How old is the build? 00:23:36
You should know that. 00:23:38
I don't have it with me. 00:23:39
Buildings about 30 years. 00:23:41
30 years old. Yeah, the building's from 1993. 00:23:42
Time goes by fast. I didn't think it builds at all. When the appraisal was done, the the roof was assessed as you know, basically 00:23:48
intact, but there wasn't like a formal roof inspection. 00:23:53
At least the way I understand the verbiage on it. 00:23:59
Right. It was deemed acceptable, right? I don't know. I assume it's a rubberized roof. 00:24:02
So that's. 00:24:09
$70,000 that we could probably. 00:24:11
And all honestly. 00:24:15
Doctorate that wouldn't impact operations inside. 00:24:17
If they're working on real on top, if we had to do that year or two or three or four and that's come down. 00:24:21
And then also I think it's called an RFP request for proposal RFI, what was that? 00:24:28
Our eyes Request for information. RFP's proposal. 00:24:35
Well, what you're going to put out? 00:24:38
We're quotes. 00:24:40
Yeah. 00:24:54
So. 00:24:56
These are probable cause. Our next step would be hiring. 00:24:57
Engineered to do construction drawings. 00:25:01
Come up with kind of a final estimate that can go up to bid from there. 00:25:05
I will say that these probable cause. 00:25:11
Are very conservative, so we are. 00:25:13
That's we're hoping it will be. 00:25:16
Less than this. 00:25:18
After the. 00:25:20
Engineer drawings, but we wanted to be. 00:25:22
We always want to. 00:25:26
Shoot under. 00:25:27
And instead of coming back and asking for more after. 00:25:28
We had the second. 00:25:33
Quote put together. 00:25:35
We started this process. 00:25:37
So here's your budget 1.27. 00:25:39
This is what we need. Turned out to be 2.7 so. 00:25:43
Worst case scenario, we wanted to have an option that was within the budget. So I absolutely think that you know. 00:25:47
Pertinent thing probably, if we can. 00:25:54
Get it all done now. 00:25:57
But there are some items that are exterior items. 00:25:58
I would not interfere with the operations. 00:26:02
If needed, could. 00:26:06
Yeah. And if we can keep it in that 2 million area that I think that would be. 00:26:08
I think there is in my limited life experience with architects, the what the architect thinks it costs and what the builder thinks 00:26:13
it's costs are generally 2 totally separate numbers, correct? 00:26:17
And I got another question. 00:26:24
Construction wise. 00:26:26
The drive through that you want to make for. 00:26:28
Ebola vaccines. 00:26:31
And I'm in agreement with that. 00:26:33
But it says almost 200 some 1000. 00:26:35
For what are you going to? Is that garage doors? What is that? Yeah, it involves running. 00:26:39
Plumbing and electricity out there. 00:26:45
As well as securable garage doors. Part of the issue is, is that the overhang? There's a lot of vertical space there. 00:26:48
So the doors are going to be heavy and the standard garage door opener is not going to have enough amperage to raise the to raise 00:26:55
the door. 00:26:59
We'd also have it roughed in so we could put the heat ducts out there and have like blow through heat. 00:27:04
Do do I think that that could potentially be done for less than that? That's a possibility and something we should look at. 00:27:10
But it's a huge increase in capability for us. 00:27:15
And we used a lot of propane trying to heat, you know, some desert storm tents and effectively and for two winters during Covad so 00:27:19
that this would allow us to to dramatically improve things. 00:27:25
It also allows us the option of actually staging. 00:27:31
Vaccine or. 00:27:34
What we call PODS which is on on site dispensing systems. 00:27:37
Without moving from the building. 00:27:42
You know, we basically take this stuff out of the refrigerator, out of the closet is being stored in and, you know, walk it out to 00:27:43
the car lot. So it actually makes it more efficient. 00:27:47
From a, you know, person per hour perspective will do that kind of response. 00:27:52
So that so having that there certainly we don't want to demo it. 00:27:56
But if we, if we. 00:28:01
Convert that over to a. 00:28:02
Concealable or containable place, that would be great. The other thing is we can keep vehicles in there at night if we have the 00:28:04
ability to close it off and secure it. 00:28:08
So that that brings that option up. 00:28:13
That's why. But could it be done for less than that? The answer is potentially. I mean, that's where the the the the request from 00:28:15
the person who actually has to build and can. 00:28:19
I think becomes true. 00:28:23
Where are you keeping your trailers and your equipment at now? 00:28:25
Some of the one of the trailers in our vehicles are in the parking lot outside the health department now on the hospital campus. 00:28:30
There are some of the other trailers are immediately to the left of this building as I'm facing in a sort of fenced off area now. 00:28:38
And we would, you know, basically do the same kind of pit stop area back in the corner of the lot 3217 like a bullpen type. 00:28:46
Like a bullpen type thing? Yeah. 00:28:53
Doctor, I just. 00:29:01
And thank you for coming and and sharing this with us because this is the first time that we've been. 00:29:02
Brought up to date on what's going on with that building and. 00:29:08
I appreciate that. Thank you. We thought that before the the budgetary process were much further this fall that this would be a 00:29:12
good time to bring this up and maybe try to. 00:29:17
Move the needle a little bit. 00:29:22
Anybody else have anything for Doctor Harris? 00:29:24
I guess we're looking for consensus to. 00:29:29
To put out. 00:29:31
Do the engineering drawings and put out the. 00:29:32
The bids. 00:29:35
For that. 00:29:37
Is everybody in agreement to move forward with that process? 00:29:39
Yes. 00:29:42
Yes, yes. 00:29:43
Nick. 00:29:45
Do you have to have a number or we? 00:29:50
So the end. 00:29:54
Engineers work off a percentage of. 00:29:59
If we're if we're going for 2 million there, their costs are going to be. 00:30:02
I believe the footprint between 1.7 and. 00:30:08
2,000,001.71 point 5 I believe the footprint is going to be the same, it's just some added like an extra generator. 00:30:14
I some some. 00:30:22
Some extras so. 00:30:25
I mean. 00:30:28
I would give them. 00:30:29
I would give them the range of two to two four. 00:30:31
That's exactly where we land, and then we'll have to work back or forward from there. 00:30:35
Is that OK? 00:30:40
Is that is that acceptable to everybody out there from the health department? 00:30:42
Everybody agrees with that, yes. 00:30:47
There's your direction, Mr. 00:30:49
Doctor Harris, thank you for the presentation. 00:30:52
All right, we'll get our agenda pulled back up here. 00:31:03
Is Kent in the building tonight? Is anybody? 00:31:10
No, Sir, Mr. President, he asked that I would present tonight for him. 00:31:12
These requests are reimbursements. The first one is a reimbursement for training exercise for. 00:31:16
Food with Harrison County and the second one. 00:31:22
Is reimbursement for? 00:31:25
A hash Mac cleanup. 00:31:27
From a company. 00:31:29
So with that being said, I would approve that 3/8. I would move that 3A be approved. 00:31:31
So I get a motion a second for 3A. Any questions on? 00:31:35
This reimbursement? 00:31:39
All in favor say aye. 00:31:41
Aye, any opposed? 00:31:42
That carries. 00:31:44
Youth Services. 00:31:47
Leah is not going to be here tonight. She's actually. 00:31:49
During a conference. 00:31:52
And she asked me to present. These are just additional appropriations. 00:31:54
Out of her fund. 00:31:59
That will take her through the end of the year. 00:32:02
Is there a motion for four AI make motion to accept it? 00:32:09
2nd, we have a motion. I guess the question is, is she got another grant coming in? 00:32:13
She these are her DMS so she gets. 00:32:19
Based on. 00:32:22
The number of. 00:32:23
Balance is a lot less than what she's asking. 00:32:26
OK. It's reimbursable. 00:32:29
Yeah, spin it. 00:32:34
Any further discussion on for a? 00:32:37
All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:32:40
That carries Mr. Matt Dennison, You are up. 00:32:43
Sleep. 00:32:53
You want to do your 5/8 first. 00:33:01
Sure, yeah. 00:33:03
Just a request for additional appropriation for. 00:33:06
Liability insurance, we've been short on that the last couple years. 00:33:10
And coming. 00:33:14
Before you to ask that we make that whole so we can pay that. 00:33:15
Move the five, AB approved. 00:33:19
Second motion is second for 5A. Any questions for Mr. Dennison? 00:33:21
All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:33:26
That carries. 00:33:29
Thank you. Continue. 00:33:30
B is a creation of a line in our 1178 count for A. 00:33:33
Legacy Foundation grant that will go towards Saint Pete and Community Park. 00:33:38
It's going to be a shelter for improvement, really, for that entire area. 00:33:42
This will allow us to put that money into a line and kind of keep it organized as we work through that project. It'll be later 00:33:46
this year into the spring of 2026. 00:33:51
I'll make a motion to approve. 00:33:57
CSIB. 00:33:59
Have a motion a second for 5B and we're creating. Is the line already there? 00:34:01
Are we creating a line and? 00:34:06
Adding these funds at the same time the appropriation itself creates the line. Gotcha. 00:34:09
Any further discussion on 5B? 00:34:15
All in favor say aye. 00:34:17
Aye, any opposed? 00:34:19
Thank you. 00:34:21
And we have a brief presentation for you tonight. This was approved by the Parks Board in 3rd July meeting. 00:34:22
We'll also be doing a presentation later this month. 00:34:28
For the Commissioners, but again. 00:34:32
We have Paul Tennis. He's with SWT Design. 00:34:34
And also also Ashley Keaney has been part of the project with SWT. 00:34:38
Paul is a Greenville resident. He actually left SWT. 00:34:42
And move to another firm recently, but. 00:34:46
He's been a great friend of the parks, both professionally and personally, and he was willing to come tonight. 00:34:49
As we bring this before you, so I appreciate him helping me with the presentation. He's been a. 00:34:53
Huge part of what we've done here over the last 15 months. 00:34:58
Just to give you a brief overview before Paul walks through some of the key components. 00:35:01
This has been about a 15. 00:35:06
1515 month process. Excuse me. 00:35:08
That began last May. 00:35:11
There's been lots of opportunities along the way for public input, for professional input. 00:35:12
To find out with both of these parks and locations what our community wants. 00:35:17
And really what our community needs. 00:35:21
We've had a lot of meetings. We had a series of meetings across the county. 00:35:24
Some had pretty good turnouts, others not as much, but an opportunity to engage with those that came out. 00:35:28
To visit with us, there also were some surveys. 00:35:34
And we probably had our best connection with the public at our Halloween in the Park event that we do each year with the Sheriff's 00:35:36
Office. We had over 350 people we handed out candy to and. 00:35:41
Got them to take a look at some preliminary plans and ideas for both of these facilities so. 00:35:46
This has been a long time coming to get to this point. 00:35:52
And really, what you're going to see tonight from the Bob Lane Regional Park in Georgetown. 00:35:55
To, of course, you know, Community Park in New Albany that's been around for so many years. 00:35:59
They're really opposites, you know, Obviously Bob Lane is new. The trails are open. 00:36:04
That those are exciting, I think have been exciting for our community. 00:36:09
And we understand that's going to be a long term project likely to build that park out. But there's so many opportunities there to 00:36:12
provide things for Floyd County and beyond that currently don't exist. There's opportunities there for I think some very unique 00:36:17
partnerships perhaps. 00:36:22
And very interesting what that part could become. 00:36:27
On the other hand, if you grew up here in Floyd County. 00:36:30
You probably have some memories of Sam Pete Community Park like me. I played soccer there. 00:36:34
And for those maybe a bit older than me, maybe they even swam there back in the day, so. 00:36:39
But it's a park that if you bring it up, people in this area, in this city, in this county. 00:36:45
That strikes home. They care about that park and when the grass is cut and our new pickleball courts are full. 00:36:50
And the shelters are rented. 00:36:57
It's a beautiful place even after all these years, but. 00:36:58
We got a lot of stuff that's aging. 00:37:02
Some of its underground. You don't even see a lot of things beginning to fail. 00:37:05
Also, it's time for some new amenities. It's time to think ahead for what the next. 00:37:09
Iteration of Sam Deedon Community Park can be for our community for the next 60. 00:37:13
Or 70 years. So I think this is unique to. 00:37:18
Tackle both of these plans at the same time. Also, I want to say this from the get go. I know this is probably the worst time. 00:37:20
To come to you about. 00:37:27
Big projects and big ideas and. 00:37:28
And new things. But it's the right thing to do for the community for us to push and organize these things. 00:37:31
And do everything we can to make sure that our park system. 00:37:37
Is brought up to speed to be quite honest and that ultimately it shots. So that's why we're here tonight. We've already 00:37:40
successfully landed a Legacy Foundation grant. 00:37:45
We're applying for every grant we can find. We're very hopeful with some others that we. 00:37:51
Are currently in the mix for. 00:37:56
We know this is going to be done in phases. We know none of these are short term. 00:37:57
You know, OK, all this funding is here, we can do it all. We get that. 00:38:01
You know, also I want to mention that. 00:38:06
Parks Foundation has been dormant now for a number of years. 00:38:09
We're working to stand that back up by the end of 2025. I think that could be a very valuable. 00:38:13
Resource where the community can get involved. 00:38:19
And we can raise maybe even some private funds in addition to grants. 00:38:21
And we're going to be back. There's going to be things, even if we don't proceed with major projects and big ideas. 00:38:25
There's there's going to be issues that come up that need to be fixed that we don't have within our budget. 00:38:31
And you're going to hear about one of those, you know, really soon. There's a big issue with the trail. 00:38:37
Between the park and the 4H property that is failing, and it's going to be a very sizable repair that we're all going to have to 00:38:41
get together and figure out so. 00:38:45
With that said, Paul's going to take you through Sam Pete Community Park first. 00:38:49
Then we'll go through Bob Lane Regional Park. We've only picked out some of the highlights. 00:38:53
We do have a printed copy of tonight's presentation for you to take. 00:38:58
And I'll follow up here in the next couple days with an e-mail. 00:39:02
Of the full master plan that includes both parks, but thanks for the opportunity to come before you tonight. 00:39:05
And be at the commissioners meeting and then after that, we'll really work on getting this plan out to the public so they can see 00:39:12
what the future could hold for fully county parks. Paul. 00:39:17
All right, so I'll walk you through all of this and thank you all for your time tonight. And also I just wanted to thank. 00:39:24
Mr. Short, Mr. Bagshaw, for being our steering committee. During this we had representatives from Council and Commission on our 00:39:30
steering committee along with other staff in the county, so. 00:39:34
A lot of good engagement. 00:39:39
Through you know, we've basically had a monthly meeting during the process worked with these. 00:39:41
Great folks to kind of work through this so. 00:39:45
Community Park. 00:39:47
There's Dale. You're in that picture somewhere. 00:39:49
No, but you know, it's it's a much loved asset in the community. It's the biggest park. 00:39:54
Currently in the system, the Regional Park will you know? 00:39:58
Technically, by acreage now the Regional Park is, but it's long been the largest park in the system. 00:40:01
And it just needs a month, you know, it's got great facilities. 00:40:06
And really what we went through in this process was just thinking about, as Matt said, what the legacy. 00:40:11
Looks like going forward. 00:40:16
You know, how do we build upon all the great memories that have been there, but how do we think about it for the future? 00:40:18
So we've really broken this up into a few key areas and I'll just kind of walk you through some of the highlights and. 00:40:22
As. 00:40:27
Said we'll give you the. 00:40:29
More detailed breakdown so you can. 00:40:31
You know, think about different elements and let us know what you think about certain pieces. But. 00:40:32
I'll start with the kind of the main entry off a Grand Line Rd. 00:40:37
So thinking about this area. 00:40:40
One of the key challenges with the entry to the park is there's no signalized intersection. 00:40:42
There's no way in and out of the park when there's a cross country meeting. 00:40:46
Right. It's really challenging. 00:40:49
So thinking about a new entry, there are a few alternatives in the in the master plan. 00:40:51
But this was the one that kind of stuck the most. So reorganizing the entry to align with Walmart. 00:40:56
I do, whether it's a roundabout. 00:41:02
Excuse me? A roundabout or a stoplight? Some some kind of traffic control? 00:41:04
To get you in and out the park. 00:41:08
And then it's really re envisioning area around the old County Hospital. 00:41:10
You know, how do we think about what to do with an NX building? 00:41:13
Taking it down. 00:41:17
Re envisioning this front entry so that we've got a great community asset there. It's a, it's a. 00:41:18
An Event Center, it's a great opportunity for a public private partnership. That's something that we've discussed a lot in our 00:41:23
steering committee. 00:41:27
Meetings, how to get someone who can come in and really. 00:41:30
Think about this and program it and make it a great space and run it. 00:41:33
For parks, but a stage, some sort of an amenity on that end of the park that really draws people in and creates a new. 00:41:37
Event venue, We called it the venue here and this could have. 00:41:44
Other facilities in it too, food and beverage is something that's been brought up quite a bit and then there's other potential 00:41:47
development within this area too that could front on Grant Line Rd. that could offset some of the. 00:41:52
Expense of doing these facilities. 00:41:57
So then coming around the the lake is really the hub of the park, you know, everything really pivots off the lake. 00:41:59
So, umm. 00:42:05
The playground area. The main pavilion on the Northside of the lake. 00:42:06
Really reinvesting in that area. 00:42:10
If you spend anytime with if you have little kids like I do. 00:42:12
When they're running around there, there, it's it's in pretty rough shape. 00:42:15
It just needs a refresh. 00:42:18
And really, as kind of the main park in the system, it needs a, it really needs a destination playground, something on par with 00:42:19
the Kevin Hammersmith. 00:42:23
Would be the right fit for a park like this? 00:42:27
So we've got a playground, sprayground, large pavilion. 00:42:30
And key thing throughout the park? New restrooms. 00:42:33
That's kind of the key thing that we heard over and over again. 00:42:36
I won't. I won't talk too much about geese because we'll talk about geese at the very end of this. That's the other thing we 00:42:39
talked a lot about. 00:42:42
So that's kind of pivoting around to the South side of the lake. 00:42:45
And this is where Matt said that legacy grant money is going to go to right at the beginning is. 00:42:48
Reworking shelter for spending some money there, cleaning it up, cleaning up the restrooms, repaving. 00:42:53
Just generally improving that area. But with this, we talked about other things that could be introduced here. Boardwalk. 00:42:59
A kayak launch. We had a lot of interest from people just for an easy way to put walk boats in and out of the water to utilize the 00:43:06
lake more. 00:43:09
But also just cleaning up the parking lot and making it work better, getting rid of the old bridge that used to go to the island 00:43:12
that's been sitting in the middle of the parking lot for. 00:43:16
And you're something like that? 00:43:20
You know, so just improving this area and cleaning it up, and that's what that legacy of money is going to go to immediately. 00:43:22
And then the other area to really build energy on is the kind of the athletics area. Pickleball is a hit. 00:43:28
And the leagues are packing it in here, so. 00:43:34
Really building on that, adding some other amenities, you know, upgrading the pavilions, looking at a new restroom concession. 00:43:37
Possibly locker room. 00:43:44
Type facility where the existing pavilion is. 00:43:45
But then also reworking the parking there so it works better. It can accommodate bigger bigger groups. 00:43:48
Because right now it's it's. 00:43:54
It's a little challenging when there's a tournament going on, so trying to really make that more functional. 00:43:56
And then with that. 00:44:01
Cleaning up the lawns to the north there the old foot kind of football practice field. 00:44:02
Area and justice regrading that, reseeding it, making it nice. 00:44:06
And that'll be great for events, for parks. You know, that's the other thing there that's a real low budget item in the grand 00:44:10
scheme of these is. 00:44:13
Just kind of cleaning those things up. 00:44:17
So then the last piece is really the the fairgrounds. 00:44:19
You know, and one of the things we talked a lot about, we met with 4H quite a bit during this process is. 00:44:22
What does this look like on Into the Future? 00:44:27
And really Matt, I think brought it up in one of the meetings before H, it's really repositioning it as the fairgrounds in San 00:44:30
Peden Park. 00:44:33
So it's how do we think about knitting it back into the park? 00:44:37
Or not, it's never really been part of the part, but making it more part of the part. 00:44:40
And so that so that I can serve for more park functions. 00:44:44
So cleaning up some of the areas on the South side of the kind of the stream through the middle of the site. 00:44:47
So that it can function for youth sports, that sort of thing. And some of that's just taking out gravel roads. 00:44:52
Taking out some of the wiring and lights that are strung up there now. 00:44:57
But just making that more functional and then with that also improvements to Newland Hall. 00:45:01
It's just some some basic renovations and then the last piece. 00:45:06
It's kind of a trailhead parking lot cleanup at the end of the site where it can tie up the hill to the trail. 00:45:10
And Matt mentioned the. 00:45:15
The trail going up the hill, that's going to need some reinvestment just because of it's got a pretty significant failure right 00:45:17
now. 00:45:20
So that would be the last kind of piece. 00:45:24
For Community Park. 00:45:26
So All in all, you know it's there are a lot of little projects. 00:45:28
That add up to to quite a bit. 00:45:31
But they're all things that can be done very incrementally. 00:45:34
For Community Park, it's really just hasn't had any investment, significant investment in it. 00:45:37
And most of the facilities are about 70 years old. 00:45:41
Most of the underground utilities, most of the facilities there. 00:45:44
They've been maintained. 00:45:47
But there's a lot that just need to be. 00:45:48
You know, there's clay pipe, clay sewer pipe throughout the park that all needs to be redone, for example. 00:45:50
So that's that's. 00:45:55
Regional, so switching the regional part. 00:45:57
But the Regional Park? 00:45:59
We really looked at trying to say that the community park is going to be more the recreation oriented park. 00:46:01
Regional Park is going to be more focused on. 00:46:06
This kind of. 00:46:09
Natural. More natural spaces, more passive. 00:46:10
So we've got the Melvin and Vicki Jensen Nature Preserve, which opened last fall. 00:46:13
So the trails are being much used, so that's on the West side of the park. And then we introduce a road through the center of the 00:46:19
park that will ultimately connect over to Nova Park. 00:46:23
So the idea is that that becomes the main entry down the road with the fly over to the park. 00:46:27
North the North End of the park, we've got the. 00:46:33
Farmstead, so that's a historic Indiana Landmarks is designated as a historic property. 00:46:36
So spending some money fixing that up, renovating it. 00:46:41
The idea here again for probably a public private partnership where this could be an event space somebody operates. 00:46:45
And really, you know. 00:46:52
Turns it into this kind of great. 00:46:53
Like almost like a mini hubers is what we kept talking about it during the steering committee. Something that has kind of that 00:46:55
vibe. 00:46:58
The potential for a barn for weddings, that sort of thing. 00:47:01
And then also the opportunity for some potential 4H programming out here and that's still up in the air, but there was definitely 00:47:04
a lot of interest during the process. 00:47:08
And then on the South end of the side, it's more about some of the more active. 00:47:12
Components. So baseball softball complex is something that we HYR was a partner in talking through this early on. 00:47:16
So that's something that's been considered in the space. That's not a given. 00:47:22
You know, there's definitely flexibility there that those could, that could just be open lawn for. 00:47:26
Youth soccer or something else too. But the point is that that's sort of the best space in the site for for sports facilities 00:47:31
where on the north it gets real hilly and just doesn't work. 00:47:35
And then the last pieces are kind of an overlook area. There's a large bill on this side with a great overlook. 00:47:40
And then trying to pack in some some other amenities like a mountain bike trail down along the Interstate. We've got some. 00:47:46
Areas that really aren't easy to program because it's loud and. 00:47:52
It's next to the highway. 00:47:56
So that actually felt like a really good use and we've had a lot of interest from members of the mountain bike community to do 00:47:57
something like that. 00:48:01
So those are kind of the high, the high points for each of these. 00:48:04
And I'll hit on this, but like like. 00:48:08
We said we'll hand this out. 00:48:09
You know, we've, we've looked at phasing, we've looked at costs for all of these. 00:48:12
For Community Park, we've broken it up into multiple phases, but. 00:48:15
Again, this is meant to be a long term exercise. 00:48:19
You know, in our Phase 1 is really the one to focus on. 00:48:23
AT that's dealing with the hillside trail that's doing some basic improvements down at the 4H. 00:48:26
And then this legacy grant. 00:48:30
Piece that I mentioned. 00:48:32
The 1C on the top and bottom there are kind of gimmies because there are trails. 00:48:34
In the hillside there and it's just cleaning them up. 00:48:38
Which can be done with staff and volunteer work. 00:48:41
So it's just little pieces and we're not. 00:48:44
You know, these are these are kind of fluid numbers. 00:48:47
But hitting on those main elements and similarly, we've got this for you all for the Regional Park. 00:48:51
Kind of breakdown of phases. 00:48:56
And overall cost for each each piece. 00:48:58
And then in phase one, phase one is actually I'm going to jump ahead and then jump back. 00:49:01
Phase one is actually already partly funded through a land and water conservation grant. 00:49:05
So I think that was 270 two $175,000 has already been outlaid for this. 00:49:10
So to do some trails along Georgetown Creek and then up into the park, do some Meadow areas. 00:49:15
The potential for a trailhead. 00:49:20
So some of these things are already already rolling with the legacy grant, land and water conservation grant. 00:49:22
So as as Matt said, you know, really trying to build off that momentum and kind of keep. 00:49:27
Keep it rolling there so. 00:49:32
Any other any other thoughts on that map before? 00:49:34
No. And again, these are just brief overviews. I will send you a full copy and would welcome meetings and. 00:49:37
Anything on site you'd like to see or if you'd like to review the current conditions of? 00:49:43
Of Saint Pete Community Park, be happy to talk to you in a group or individual settings. 00:49:48
But we want to get the ball rolling and we want to keep momentum. 00:49:52
Consistently have some things. 00:49:56
That people can see we're doing our best. 00:49:58
Small staff in a small budget to make gains and improvements in our department. 00:50:01
Oh yeah, I do want to mention one of the things that you'll probably be hearing about. 00:50:08
There's a major geese problem that Sam Peden Community Park. 00:50:13
They leave a lot of waste behind. There's a lot of dedicated supporters of the geese that feed them even every day, even though 00:50:17
it's. 00:50:21
Against park rules to do so. 00:50:25
We've stepped up enforcement of that and we're working on maybe putting that into our ordinance very soon, but. 00:50:27
You know this parks crew that you've had for the last three years, we're we're doing a lot of programming. We're out and doing 00:50:33
things that really have not been done. And so with that. 00:50:37
You know, we've had some new events where you know. 00:50:42
Kids have you know. 00:50:45
It's just hard to mix geese waste with events and we're trying to do more. 00:50:47
Like football and Easter egg hunts and you can let your imagination. 00:50:50
Run wild from there. So this is a problem. 00:50:54
That we hear about a lot. 00:50:57
The Walking paths and trails through the park are just simply covered at certain times of years. 00:50:58
We brought in a number of people to help with this or get ideas on this, including Doctor Harris and the health department. 00:51:04
And we internally are getting ready to. 00:51:10
Allow some growth. 00:51:13
Growth, we're gonna have some vegetation areas and we're gonna follow a step by step plan, but there's a lot of non Canadian geese 00:51:14
birds in the park which we we need to rehome to be quite honest with you. 00:51:20
And ultimately, I'm not sure what will happen with some of the geese that is there. We have a population that is. 00:51:25
Very much entrenched in the park. They're not seasonal like most are. They are there. 00:51:31
In the snow, they are there all the time. 00:51:36
They go up to our shelter rentals and you know, people may not want to come back because other people love them. It's a mixed 00:51:38
thing, but we've got a process we're going to go through that will exhaust a number of options. 00:51:44
But for this park to be clean and tidy and. 00:51:50
Professional and serve the public and serve our events for the public like it should. 00:51:53
We're going to begin to work through this very soon, so. 00:51:57
Be happy to talk with you individually about that if there's any questions, but I do feel like that's something that you know. 00:52:00
There's people both ways on both sides of that issue that have vocal opinions. 00:52:06
I wanted to mention that at least to you tonight. 00:52:12
Do you have any questions or anything? 00:52:16
Anybody have any questions for me? 00:52:22
Comments. I won't want them. 00:52:24
Print outs over there. 00:52:26
Yeah, we have a, we have a print out for this. 00:52:28
So I'm showing off to all my friends. Are you gonna have a? Are you gonna have any consideration for any security out there? Yeah, 00:52:30
actually cameras or? 00:52:34
Yeah, we have security at Hammersmith, which we work with the police all the time. There's that park is so busy. 00:52:38
Pete needs security. 00:52:44
And we're going to be coming back to you in September. We're working with the Sheriff's Office to get some flocking cameras. 00:52:46
Which would not only make our parks safer, but would make the community safer be another. 00:52:53
Hit point for folks entering parks that we don't want there, that probably shouldn't be there, so we'll be. 00:52:57
Talking to you a little bit more about security, but right now at Saint Pete and. 00:53:03
Mr. Sarkis And there is no cameras there. Hammersmith There are some cameras. I was just thinking after you fix it all up, I don't 00:53:07
know. We want to go through this stuff, but before we. 00:53:13
Redo shelter for we need to get some other things. And the roundabout you're talking about, is that on parks property? Is that on 00:53:18
Grantland Road? 00:53:22
The new entrance potentially, yeah, that that's not on our property. That's more of a thing that could. 00:53:26
You know, be determined by the future that Firehouse Roundabout is an option. 00:53:32
Yeah. 00:53:36
It just needs to be. 00:53:40
It just needs to have its own designated. 00:53:41
Entrance and exit right. 00:53:44
It's really tough to get in and out there, especially if you're turning left out of there. 00:53:46
At times you wait through. 00:53:50
Several lights to get out. 00:53:52
Or a certain event with sheriff help. 00:53:55
Or if it come down to the signal. 00:53:58
It be better than what it is. 00:54:00
Signal Walmart be better than what it is. 00:54:02
Yeah. Any other questions? I just have a comment. I want to commend you, Mr. Dennison, for all you do for little. 00:54:05
I agree. 00:54:12
I agree. I mean, it's amazing what you do with little. 00:54:13
I was glad to see the article too that this is your forever job so. 00:54:18
It's an honor for sure. I want to thank our people, you guys. This council has worked with us the last couple of years. I'm going 00:54:23
to ask you, We're going to be at the table. I know we're. 00:54:28
Not at the top of the pecking order, but we're going to be at the table. 00:54:33
To let you know our concerns and let you know what we need. And I'm not sure how much that's happened or not, but we're going to 00:54:36
be there. We have great people. We've hired great people. 00:54:40
We've got committed people, some have been there way longer than me. 00:54:44
That work and have gotten some good raises thanks to many of you all but we have super people that are committed to do the job and 00:54:47
we work nights and weekends and. 00:54:52
Times other people don't and I'm so proud of our staff, that's what I'm most proud of. But. 00:54:56
Appreciate the compliments and I'll relay that to them. 00:55:00
Thank you and I will let you know that. 00:55:03
I had a line item for them put on the joint meeting because I missed the advertising for this meeting. 00:55:07
For help with that. 00:55:13
Walkway from community park down to 4H because. 00:55:15
If you haven't seen it, go out there and take a look right now. It's a liability. 00:55:20
It's in disrepair. 00:55:24
There's a lot of people who like to go from. 00:55:26
Top to bottom or back up? 00:55:28
And uh. 00:55:30
It's there's no good way to do it right now, and it's a. 00:55:31
It's a it's a liability needs to be taken care of. How much is it? 00:55:35
I put on 200,000. 00:55:39
Out of riverboat. 00:55:40
I do want to mention too, while we're talking about that I've been working with Horatio, there is a concern with the dam at 00:55:42
Kiwanis Lake as well. We're having a. 00:55:46
Company come in to look at it. 00:55:51
There's been a little bit of leakage. 00:55:53
And so that could be something we address with that potential money as well, the hill and the dam. 00:55:55
I may need some help. 00:56:01
So gotcha. 00:56:03
Thank you. Thank you for for all the work that was put into this. Thank you as well. Thank you. 00:56:04
Stand. 00:56:16
Thank you. And that's definitely a hard act to follow how we saw. 00:56:24
I always think about Matt a lot because. 00:56:27
Preceded that was Roger, Jefferson County. 00:56:30
Pave the way for some great parts here in Floyd County. 00:56:33
So we certainly. 00:56:36
Solely and give tribute to the team. 00:56:37
Areas and the commitments. 00:56:40
Here in Floyd County. 00:56:42
And congratulations to you, Mr. Taran. 00:56:43
Great thing in life, good things happen. 00:56:47
Thank you, Thank you the first time I've got on the agenda tonight. 00:56:50
For the red wire construction. 00:56:55
Project. 00:56:58
This is just to make sure that our Nova Park contractor gets paid properly. 00:57:01
The draws are coming in. 00:57:07
From the house money sitting in a interest bearing account so. 00:57:09
We're just waiting on. 00:57:13
I think Jules. 00:57:14
The distribution. 00:57:17
Which leaves us about 4000 shorter the current request, so. 00:57:19
But we won't spend until the. 00:57:23
Cash balance has been posted. 00:57:25
Motion to approve 6A. 00:57:27
Have a motion a second for 6A. Any discussion or questions for Stan? Stan, when is that building gonna be done? 00:57:30
That's a good question. They're working on the change order now, the building behind the red wire project, so. 00:57:37
I'm not exactly sure what the target end date is. I can find out and get that. 00:57:45
I was just curious. Yeah, we've heard it twice. It's moving along a pretty good clip. So yeah, Jeff. 00:57:50
Jeff and Charming Construction is doing a great job. 00:57:55
Trying to stay on top of everything. 00:57:57
Excuse me? 00:58:00
Any other discussion on 6A? 00:58:01
All in favor say aye. 00:58:04
Aye, any opposed that carries? 00:58:05
6B is using funds from the CARES Act. 00:58:09
Cover the old Vincennes project. So we're moving some expenses out of there to free up some money. 00:58:13
For Sydney and the road department to try to. 00:58:19
Get some of their equipment back under repair and some of the roads repaired. 00:58:21
It's been shared with me that they are currently out of money, so we're trying to find as many resources as we possibly can. 00:58:27
To get. 00:58:34
Their bills paid and to get things taken care of from the old department side. 00:58:35
I moved to approve 6B. 00:58:40
Have a motion and 2nd for 6B. 00:58:43
Any other questions? 00:58:45
On this item. 00:58:47
All in favor say aye. 00:58:49
Aye, any opposed? 00:58:51
C is a transfer. This is where we navigated the consolidation of the. 00:58:54
Building authority. 00:59:00
Into edits funds. 00:59:02
So we are taking away the. 00:59:04
Reducing the appropriations set forth in the rental lease agreement. 00:59:07
Using those where we appropriately need those to navigate. 00:59:12
The utilities, the facility operators, health insurance like a Hamburg. 00:59:16
Motion to approve. 00:59:22
Succeed as advertised. 00:59:24
Second motion to 2nd for 6C. Any questions or discussion? 00:59:26
Stan, I'm going to keep asking this, but this is purely a consolidation of line items, right? There's no. 00:59:31
Editions No. 00:59:37
This is just converting together. 00:59:39
Lease payment. 00:59:41
I know I like least asking the same question. You gotta make sure you can see an answer. 00:59:43
Any further discussion on 6C? 00:59:48
All in favor say aye. Any opposed? 00:59:51
He's been hanging around me today. 00:59:54
Dee, this is an additional appropriation request out of county general the all insurance line. 00:59:56
If you're not. 01:00:03
Familiar with the all insurance, there's a I think on the excuse me on the additional. I attached a copy of the invoice. 01:00:04
It's the umbrella policy, the auto policy, and. 01:00:11
I think there was a. 01:00:15
Forget what the other one was actually. 01:00:18
The property is cyber liability. 01:00:20
Insurance. 01:00:22
This lines have been held flat for the I think for the last three or four years there's been significant increases including. 01:00:23
24 to 25 is a 13% increase in insurance costs throughout the industry. 01:00:31
What I hope is that when we build 26 budget that we. 01:00:37
Engage in conversation to understand what the actual cost is. 01:00:42
To move forward with an appropriate number. 01:00:47
So this is actually to shore up the shortage for the one time annual liability invoice. 01:00:50
And then also I've tried to do some year end projections. 01:00:57
I think I've already fell sharp because we just got another invoice in. 01:01:01
From uh. 01:01:05
Eastern Alliance so. 01:01:06
Will be on the agenda for next month as well, but this is just to help get us back into a little bit better light. 01:01:08
With the. 01:01:14
Liability. The umbrella. 01:01:16
Policy. The auto policy. Property policy. 01:01:18
Side reliability policy. 01:01:20
And this doesn't. I'm sorry. I'll wait for it. 01:01:22
A motion before I'm sorry, I'll make motion. 01:01:24
That motion is second for 16. This also includes. 01:01:28
The amount that we owe the deductible. 01:01:33
On some stuff that we've had, is that included in there? The insurance deductibles are separate buildings, that's why. 01:01:35
I tried to reject out into you and I think I feel a little short on the numbers that we got just this month so. 01:01:41
Now, Stan, is this over above what? 01:01:47
Close to Smith. 01:01:49
When he met, he presented his former proposal about a week ago. 01:01:51
For 26. 01:01:54
So is this over and above what he? 01:01:56
Presented last year for 25. 01:01:58
Yes, Yeah, his number is actually, I think he talked about the overall coverages that were out there. I'm not sure. 01:02:01
To be honest, I remember much about the presentation, so my apologies. 01:02:08
But I know the number at 6:15 has been pretty well stagnant for the last three years and every year. 01:02:12
Operations and commissioners have come to ask for an additional just for the insurance coverage increases annually. 01:02:18
So I can work with him. I'll be glad to reach out. This is Calista Smith has determined this is an amount. 01:02:25
That way you still up. 01:02:32
Yes, yes, that's correct. 01:02:34
OK. 01:02:37
Yeah, the bill was like $839,000. 01:02:38
And that's only for half of the year, that's for the full year. 01:02:42
But they go from June to June. Well then we get monthly independent invoices based on different occurrences that may have hit so. 01:02:46
Their insurance deductible payments. 01:02:54
But isn't it? Doesn't it cover from June to June? 01:02:57
I'll be honest, I didn't look at the daytime frame. I'm sorry. 01:03:00
It is a June to June coverage. 01:03:04
Before the orphans come specifically, so this is this is. 01:03:07
This is an annual payment. 01:03:12
And to clarify, because I don't know that. 01:03:16
Coming across quite the way it needs to. 01:03:18
What Stanley is referencing is that. 01:03:21
Council for five years running have requested a flat budget from all departments. 01:03:24
So operations has never been able to actually budget the estimated cost of the all insurance. 01:03:29
For the incoming year, he is working on doing that for 2026 because the Council allowed us to do that this year. 01:03:35
But so for the last five years, operations has had to come and ask for additional appropriation to cover that annual cost because 01:03:40
they've not been allowed to actually budget for that annual cost. 01:03:45
All these increases that we considered. 01:03:52
Other bids or we look at other. 01:03:55
Other agencies. 01:03:58
So now we're seeing this significant jump. 01:04:00
Yeah, to my knowledge, we have not yet, Jim. 01:04:03
I think that's probably a good fiscal checkup, honestly. 01:04:05
I've always encouraged that from many perspectives. So I think Calista Smith gets quote. Actually I was. 01:04:08
I was at that meeting as well there as well and they. 01:04:15
Quite frankly, I'm not sure, Jim, to your point that even other insurance carriers. 01:04:20
He's so limited on people that don't wanna. 01:04:25
Ensure municipalities and because the Sheriff's Department, other things, we just don't want that. We don't want part of it. 01:04:28
There's only like 2. 01:04:31
Companies in the whole country. 01:04:36
That even do it. 01:04:37
For municipalities. 01:04:38
They shop. 01:04:42
Around around the country, but I think there's only two providers in the entire country that it would even give. 01:04:44
Yeah, for two quotes I think. 01:04:52
Any further discussion on this one? 01:04:57
Is it? 01:05:01
All in favor of 6D say aye. 01:05:04
Aye, any opposed? 01:05:07
That carries. 01:05:08
And I promise not to make these A through double C's everybody so. 01:05:10
660 is a software support. 01:05:16
This $1000 is to shore up and overrun in that particular line currently just to get us back into the positive. 01:05:20
Then the professional services request for 50,000. 01:05:28
This is for the repairs. 01:05:32
For a Pebble Creek study that has been conducted. 01:05:35
Where water is draining off into the catch basin near the intersection for Pebble Creek. 01:05:39
And during the winter, our cold months, it's freezing. 01:05:45
Hampering, uh. 01:05:49
Law enforcement fire. 01:05:50
Agencies, EMS, and even the residents themselves. 01:05:52
It's creating a very hazardous situation. 01:05:56
This 50,000 is a little bit more than the estimate to repair, which came in about 26,000. 01:05:59
However, we just wanted to put enough appropriations in place just to allow for some contingencies. 01:06:06
And again, this is all storm water money that's currently unappropriated in there. 01:06:11
1197. 01:06:17
I moved to approve 60. 01:06:19
Second, have a motion a second for 60. Any questions for Stan? 01:06:21
I have one is. 01:06:26
Pebble Creek, you say? The entryway. 01:06:28
I believe that's what is that a developer issue that he failed? 01:06:30
We developed it or is it failed since he developed it? 01:06:34
I'm going to say that something's developed over time, Dale. I'm not 100% sure, but I can certainly talk with Nick and operations 01:06:37
and find out things that you know. 01:06:42
Any further discussion? 01:06:49
All in favor of 6 E say aye. 01:06:50
Aye, any opposed? 01:06:53
That carries. 01:06:54
Number F is. 01:06:56
The Commissioners Capital Projects Fund. 01:06:58
To bring down independently, the first one is. 01:07:03
Into your projections. 01:07:08
And also to cover a current shortage that's in that particular. 01:07:10
6007. 01:07:15
A line for Community and economic development projects. 01:07:16
The next line is the. 01:07:22
Fleet Services. 01:07:24
This is the upgrade or update the fleet services. 01:07:25
That, uh. 01:07:28
Under contract with the Commissioners. 01:07:31
The IT cloud this is to reimburse funds that we had to use to make sure that a bond got paid. 01:07:34
It was handed to me to get paid by August the 1st and I got paid by transferring the money but. 01:07:42
I had to steal from somebody, so I'm asking that we restore Gary's money before he has a. 01:07:49
He kicks me in the shin. 01:07:54
And then the final one is. 01:07:57
Let's see. 01:08:01
Office the equipment. 01:08:01
I don't know how I got tagged this office equipment because this is actually an equipment line. 01:08:03
We need to get a new lift for the garage at the road department. 01:08:09
I won't share with you their current practices because. 01:08:13
They're not very safe and we need to get a new lift in place immediately so. 01:08:16
I'm sure they're perfectly safe. 01:08:22
Thank you. 01:08:28
I'll make a motion for 6F. 01:08:31
2nd. 01:08:33
We have a motion and a second for 6F. Any questions? 01:08:34
I'm going to ask you a question. 01:08:37
I've talked to you about some of this SO. 01:08:40
I didn't ask this question when we talked. 01:08:42
The vehicles could that. 01:08:46
Wait until we get a go bond in place and then we put those. 01:08:48
Vehicles in the Govan. 01:08:53
Till next year in January. 01:08:56
What we were looking at the the damaged vehicles from the. 01:09:00
Vandalism there and just try to get rid of those and. 01:09:03
Just try to get this moving, this whole process moving so. 01:09:08
I think it's, I mean it's, I guess it's there'll be enough. 01:09:11
Capital projects to cover what we're going to get from the Govan. So I'm OK with that. 01:09:15
Any further discussion? 01:09:23
All in favor of 6F say aye. 01:09:25
Any opposed? 01:09:28
That carries. 01:09:29
And G. 01:09:31
This is just the. 01:09:33
Contractual services out of the Chase building, we've actually run out of money, so we just incorporating some additional. 01:09:36
Spending authorities so that we can continue. 01:09:43
Paying for the contractual services at the Chase Building downtown Chase. 01:09:46
I'll make a motion for six. 01:09:54
2nd I have a motion in a second for 6G. 01:09:56
Any questions? 01:09:59
All in favor say aye. 01:10:02
Aye, any opposed? 01:10:03
Thank you very much. I appreciate it. 01:10:06
Thank you, Stanley Sharks. 01:10:07
Sheriff Steve Bush. 01:10:15
A couple weeks ago, you should have received some reports for our commissary report. In the past, we've had to turn those in twice 01:10:17
a year, usually in July and December. 01:10:20
New law passed and the legislators that. 01:10:24
Beginning of July 1st, we do it every quarter, so every. 01:10:26
To get for a year now and that schedule be put out or we'll put that out. 01:10:29
Do that every quarter. Also, we have to do some training. That's the new law. 01:10:33
Doesn't change the receipts and disbursements we're supposed to deliver. 01:10:37
And so we delivered those through e-mail. Jim did have some questions and I did speak with him this morning, some concerns. 01:10:40
Of some information that was not released in terms of. 01:10:46
In reference to a credit card, I think everything else was fine. 01:10:48
Understand, but the credit card was just a statement, so. 01:10:51
As an example, say there was something from River City work where Amazon. 01:10:54
Billy Joe's. 01:10:58
Food Mart. It didn't list what was spent from that particular vendor. 01:10:59
And So what we're going to do is move it forward. We're going to outline all that information so the credit card will be spelled 01:11:03
out. 01:11:07
We do keep receipts on file for State Board of accounts for the oversee it as well so. 01:11:10
Anybody's welcome to come and look at the box of receipts. 01:11:15
So the question really remains at this point what we sent. 01:11:17
Is not as. 01:11:21
Adequate as what say Jim, you know concerns were which is fine. 01:11:22
We can go back to the last six months and put that together, but you would not receive that for several weeks because there'll be 01:11:27
a lot of work to do that. 01:11:30
We believe that the statements that we sent were adequate, but. 01:11:33
Some concern for at least one council person. I want to make sure we make that right. 01:11:36
For moving forward, for sure, we'll have that done. 01:11:40
Where I think they'll be just fine. 01:11:43
The question is if you want us to go back to the last six months, we can do that. 01:11:44
You just won't get that for another. 01:11:48
Month probably and then in October's meeting will be turned in the next quarter technically will be the third quarter of this 01:11:50
year. 01:11:53
And and do it the right way in terms of having everything documented. So I think there'll be suffice from moving forward so. 01:11:56
I'm at your house. Pleasure. If you want to do it, we'll do it, but you won't get that for probably several weeks. 01:12:02
As we make sure we do this new documentation of how we're going to do that. 01:12:06
So it sufficed and for this board. 01:12:10
And if there's any questions from what we have right now as far as deposits, expenditures? 01:12:13
Be more than happy to answer those as well. 01:12:17
Well, as I said, my concern is that. 01:12:20
We're being given. 01:12:22
The responsibility, the oversight of this and with the information we have were not really. 01:12:24
And that's that's that's why. 01:12:31
Do you have any problem with him? 01:12:33
From this point on. 01:12:36
I asked if you have asked them. 01:12:37
Fine with waiting another month or so to get the rest. Get the old ones. I mean, I understand it's going to take a while to 01:12:39
collect that. 01:12:42
OK. Only question I can you give us like? 01:12:46
The total, what's in there? They're in the commissary right now. 01:12:49
So for right now, from January to July, we have spent. 01:12:52
$1,206,849.10. 01:12:56
We deposited 1,204,704 thousand $0.83. 01:13:00
And within the council there's different funds like E Cigs. 01:13:05
I don't play going real fast. I can give you this report, that's no problem. 01:13:08
But basically the different. 01:13:13
We have E Cigs we have. 01:13:15
We call a profit. 01:13:16
There's ODC and there's different amounts in these different line items within the console that makes up the total amount. 01:13:18
I saw this. 01:13:24
I just had. 01:13:25
I just got the State Board of. 01:13:25
Today, so I kind of went. 01:13:27
Proves to it so. 01:13:29
I saw where. 01:13:31
It looked like you made like 1.7. 01:13:33
Are one point. 01:13:36
6 range or something and you spent. 01:13:38
There were some figures on there I. 01:13:42
You had that pulled up by any chance that. 01:13:43
The figures, so we spent 1.2 million and we've taken in basically one. 01:13:46
Or we spent 1.2. 01:13:50
76 We spent 1.204. 01:13:52
OK. 01:13:54
What's the what's the balance is 882,000, but that includes a whole different. 01:13:55
Variety of different. 01:14:00
Funds within the balance area. 01:14:02
And you kind of do that by monthly. 01:14:04
You get the bounce you start out with and then as you gain money and yes, so what's in the reports that you got? I think it might 01:14:05
have been on there, it may not have. So we're looking at, you know what Jim's concerns, We've looked at how it's reported that 01:14:10
we're going to be sending you. So we're going to make sure we develop a document that has. 01:14:15
Each month we'll have beginning balance. At the end of that month, we'll have the ending balance and within you'll see all the 01:14:20
deposits that we made. 01:14:23
And all the receipts. 01:14:27
Or on disbursements that we made. So it'll be a little bit more clear, I think moving forward. 01:14:28
To your point, it looked good. 01:14:32
And some of that money is within 118,000. We don't just have 8. 01:14:35
Cash of 882,000 we have inmate trust fund that has to have so much we you know the. 01:14:39
One light item has to have at least a couple 100,000 so it can be purchased food ongoing. Sam probably wouldn't contest to or 01:14:44
knows. 01:14:48
So it's different things within that. 01:14:51
And we're always evaluating the commissary of what items we sell. 01:14:53
We've evaluated nicotine patches and we haven't done that yet. 01:14:57
You know you can make money that way. Of course ramen noodles is big. 01:15:00
Cheetos if you want or whatever the case may be so there's a lot of items in there that we you know, we have and by law we don't 01:15:04
have to have commissary but you know it makes like it's a good thing and we. 01:15:08
Try to manage it. It helps you out a lot too. Yes. And there's different things we spend out that we don't have to come to you 01:15:13
all. You know there is a statute that obviously Sam and I and Matt have talked about through our budget talks of an ordinance. 01:15:18
But we I think the direction we may go if I need something. 01:15:23
I'll come to you all and ask for that individually to keep it. 01:15:26
We all would agree on because on the 9th. 01:15:29
Statute number #9 if we agree mean the sheriff and the council agrees on an item that's on a build swimming pool. 01:15:32
And we agree to do that. 01:15:37
We can do it. 01:15:39
But we have to agree. 01:15:40
So I'll do that in the future. 01:15:41
To line that out eventually. 01:15:43
But as far as right now the compensate, we're managing that and staying within the statute the best that we can and understand it. 01:15:45
It's a lot of language there and a lot of things we want to make sure we're doing right. 01:15:50
So to Jim's point, the oversight. 01:15:54
Any further questions for the sheriff? 01:15:59
Thank you very much for the reports and thank you for coming in. 01:16:03
The stopping you were up. 01:16:07
Good evening. Side note. 01:16:14
Those use that Matt was complaining about earlier. 01:16:15
Until she moved, my daughter was a dedicated feeder of those geese. 01:16:19
Problem. 01:16:24
Problem #1. 01:16:26
Citation right there. 01:16:27
Fed them in a year, we're fine. 01:16:30
I'm covering for a few people. 01:16:34
So I have wit up first which is 8A. 01:16:36
This is just a line transfer that crosses categories. So we're decreasing one line and introducing their liability insurance. 01:16:39
Move to approve a day. 01:16:46
Second motion and 2nd for a day. Any questions? 01:16:47
All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? 01:16:51
That carries superior 3 is a similar situation where we are crossing line categories. So it does have to come before you. So we're 01:16:54
just decreasing one line. 01:16:58
And increasing another so there is no additional appropriations happening here. 01:17:02
Move to approve 8B. 01:17:06
Second motion and 2nd for 8D. 01:17:08
Any discussion? 01:17:11
All in favor say aye. 01:17:13
Any opposed that carries? 01:17:15
OK, so. 01:17:19
C is an additional appropriation. It's an additional appropriation in the public safety lit. This is something that. 01:17:20
The Council has discussed a couple times and did go ahead and ask me to go ahead and advertise for appropriation purposes. 01:17:26
There is a projected deficit in the jail lit fund. 01:17:33
So it was discussed to move some controlled costs over to the public safety lit for this year to make sure that. 01:17:38
We don't overextend those. 01:17:46
Jail lit dollars at the end of this year. 01:17:49
Due to the fact that at the end of last year we did have to shore up that fund. So this is just kind of preventing that from 01:17:52
happening this year. 01:17:55
It was projected to be over by about $900,000. 01:17:59
If they spent everything that they. 01:18:04
Currently have budgeted. 01:18:06
And so the controllable costs were? 01:18:08
Reallocated to this fund. 01:18:12
Should we wait till the end of the year to do this so we know exactly what I would ask that you not do that to me, because I would 01:18:15
have to go back through the entire year and adjust every single claim to reflect that. 01:18:20
These are controllable costs, they're contractual costs. 01:18:27
So there's not. 01:18:31
Gonna flux one way or the other. 01:18:33
You don't have to do all of them. You can do some of them. You can do none of them. 01:18:35
But if you do them at the end of the year, I will cry. 01:18:39
And that's the reason we chose these. I did not want you to cry. 01:18:44
These funds because they are contractual. 01:18:47
In the price is set. So yeah, I'll make a motion to approve 8C. 01:18:50
2nd. 01:18:54
We have a motion a second for eight. See any further discussion. 01:18:55
Seeing none all in favor say aye. Any opposed? 01:19:02
I appreciate it. 01:19:08
Floyd County Council Ordinance 2025-11 for transfer. 01:19:11
Entertain a motion for the transfers that we've done this evening. I'll make motion. 01:19:18
Go ahead, Second. 01:19:23
Did you? Yeah, I'll have a motion in a second for 9/8. 01:19:27
Any discussion on our transfers this evening? 01:19:31
All in favor say aye. 01:19:34
Aye, opposed. 01:19:35
That carries not be is the ordinance 2025-12. 01:19:36
Establishing a county vehicle excise surtax and county will tax. 01:19:41
That is going to be. 01:19:46
Tabled, since we have to advertise that. 01:19:49
And I saw that head. I'm sorry, I could have answered that for you early. That's going to be tabled because we have to advertise 01:19:53
that. 01:19:56
Now you have a big decision. 01:19:59
My Friday. 01:20:10
So what we're. 01:20:13
Have a first meeting on the 25th. 01:20:15
Yeah. So what we're looking at is. 01:20:17
1st. 01:20:20
Public public meeting and first reading on the 25th and then the 26th. 01:20:21
When we have our joint meeting if we need. 01:20:26
A second vote. 01:20:29
Everybody check your calendars for the 25th. 01:20:31
And make sure you're available. 01:20:37
August. 01:20:40
Yes, it has to be done before the end of this month. 01:20:41
What do we know what time that meeting? 01:20:43
I would suggest we do it at 6:00 PM. It's going to be a public hearing. 01:20:48
And then? 01:20:55
I couldn't do any earlier than sex. 01:20:56
So I'm good. 01:20:59
Is everybody OK for the 25th? 01:21:00
At 6:00 PM. 01:21:05
Is channel channel 41 OK? 01:21:07
It was my understanding that this was a user fee and didn't need to be advertised like a. 01:21:16
But I was corrected by. 01:21:20
Our attorney. 01:21:22
So we have. 01:21:25
We would have this hearing on the 25th and. 01:21:27
A joint meeting on the 26th, yeah. So we'll take our second vote then if needed. 01:21:30
OK, OK. 01:21:37
And that meeting on the. 01:21:38
Is that at 4:00 the meeting on the 26th joint meeting? Is 4:00 the public commissioners meeting? 01:21:39
Everybody good with that? 01:21:48
Yep. Laurie, can you send out an invite please? 01:21:49
For that. 01:21:53
6:00 PM. 01:21:55
And then it'll need to be added to the. 01:21:56
Meeting agenda as well for us to break out and. 01:21:59
Have a second vote. Public hearing 6 close that meeting. 01:22:04
To vote on it. 01:22:08
Right. Yeah, Public meeting at 6:00. 01:22:10
After after public input and comment, we will close the public hearing. 01:22:12
In open our meeting to vote. 01:22:17
And it's unanimous. 01:22:21
That's fine. 01:22:24
We ended there, No. Then you gotta have another boat. 01:22:26
OK, got it. 01:22:29
Everybody good with that? 01:22:30
Yes, Sir. 01:22:31
All right, 9C the go bond. 01:22:33
This is open. 01:22:38
Time for discussion, I will give you I sent out some thoughts on it. 01:22:40
Last week. 01:22:45
Umm. 01:22:47
Since talking with Stan and. 01:22:50
Some other people. 01:22:53
We've got some. 01:22:55
I originally said it at $3,000,000. 01:22:58
After talking with Stan and Nick. 01:23:03
I'll put in a. 01:23:06
Figure of 4 million and the reason for that is we've got some IT initiatives. 01:23:07
For. 01:23:13
Hardware that's out of date. 01:23:15
Some efficiency software that needs to be purchased. 01:23:18
And. 01:23:22
Are those in our current budget? We're going to remove them from our current Budget 26 budget and put them into the Go fund. 01:23:25
I haven't seen him. 01:23:32
You know, stand up that's on the current budget or not. 01:23:35
Yes, yes, the current IT plan is on. 01:23:41
Current budget, it's in the county general fund under Gary. 01:23:44
Department number is. 01:23:50
106. 01:23:51
So his his increase is. 01:23:54
500,000. 01:23:57
So that's why I come out of the budget. 01:24:00
To 4 million can I just. 01:24:04
Request maybe? Maybe stain can be our. 01:24:07
Point person and. 01:24:11
I'd like to have a list of. 01:24:13
The actual capital projects, these have to be capital projects. 01:24:15
So I would like to have a list of the capital projects that are we're going to be. 01:24:19
And it can go over 4 million, I don't care. But we just need to understand what those 4 million, that's part of my argument. 01:24:24
Because we're not talking about affecting the tax rate. 01:24:31
When we add dollars, we're just. 01:24:35
Extending the duration. 01:24:37
Correct, right? 01:24:39
So what we're doing is we're holding the tax rate for our constituents. 01:24:40
Flat instead of letting it go down. 01:24:46
So I mean it is a tick tock. 01:24:49
Tax impact, Yeah, it's still, it's costing the taxpayers money. It it is. 01:24:51
I understand that, but with as much as we have going on in the county and. 01:24:57
Underfunding the way that we are, I just. 01:25:02
I'm not disagreeing, I'm just saying we put a tax in last year. 01:25:05
Huge, huge tax not even laid out. And we had no idea. We asked. I asked over and over again. 01:25:09
How that money was going to be used. And here we are today, a year later. 01:25:18
And still. 01:25:23
Just now. 01:25:26
Using that money. 01:25:28
Something like you said in the past, Denise, I think anytime we do something like this, we should be offsetting the public safety 01:25:29
tax by an equivalent revenue amount. 01:25:34
So that our taxpayer is not paying anything additional because I think. 01:25:39
I still don't believe that tax last year. 01:25:43
Way beyond what was necessary. 01:25:46
And I will come back at our taxpayer and want more from them or take more out of their pocket is what we're doing. 01:25:49
I absolutely agree. So anyways I I would. 01:25:55
I would request that before we. 01:25:59
Have an ordinance in front of us that we have at least. 01:26:02
A list of what we're going to use this for. 01:26:07
What's that? 01:26:11
Go ahead. 01:26:12
Just just a reminder. 01:26:19
That. 01:26:22
The Form 3 is for our projected budget for next year. 01:26:23
Go to the state on August 29th. 01:26:25
The bond. 01:26:28
Has to be listed on that. 01:26:29
So if you choose to do it, you have to do it. 01:26:31
This month. 01:26:33
OK. Just a reminder. 01:26:35
Out there. So I did try very hard to make sure that everyone was aware. 01:26:36
That by the end of August, a lot of this stuff would have to be settled. 01:26:40
We're in the middle of August. 01:26:44
And once I file those things with the state. 01:26:46
There's not really any adjusting it at this point and so you lose it for 2026 as a reminder. 01:26:49
What's the process for making sure we meet those deadlines? 01:26:55
Do we need to get it on an agenda? Do we need to advertise? What is that actual? 01:26:59
You can adopt that ordinance at. 01:27:04
Any meeting as far as I'm aware. 01:27:07
One reading, but it has to be two. 01:27:09
If it's not. 01:27:12
If it's unanimous, correct, unanimous. So you have two meetings currently scheduled, 1 is a public hearing and 1 is a joint 01:27:13
meeting. So they can always be thrown on there. But my point is, is that on August 29th, I will be filing our Form 3 with the 01:27:17
state. 01:27:21
So it's either on there or it isn't. And if it's in, you don't get it next year, but we can put it on there. 01:27:25
And not do it. 01:27:31
On the obvious key. 01:27:33
Yeah. So we should, we should also affect the rates that they tell me to put as far as. 01:27:34
Your CNAB and our taxing rates for next year so. 01:27:40
It's it it creates issues. 01:27:43
I want to clarify. 01:27:46
The the wording that we're using here. 01:27:49
These are Commissioner projects. 01:27:52
The commissioners and I talked to. 01:27:54
Commissioner Knable this morning from Ireland. I guess it was afternoon for him, but it was morning for me. 01:27:56
And he said. 01:28:03
Bridge 27. 01:28:04
And parks. And it was well beyond. 01:28:06
$4 million. 01:28:09
The the list of projects that they had and he had more than that he didn't have in front of him. 01:28:11
But. 01:28:18
That 4 million goes to the commissioners for their projects. 01:28:20
Half of that comes back to us. 01:28:24
Not dedicated to projects. That's how this was supposed to work the last time. 01:28:28
And that's how. 01:28:32
The agreement between. 01:28:33
Council and Commissioners is written up this time. I think we should. 01:28:36
I I think these are capital projects and we should agree on what we're going to spend the 4 million on. 01:28:41
And this stuff about sharing is is is. 01:28:46
It's it's the taxpayers money. We just need to decide how the best way to spend the capital dollars that we're going to spend. 01:28:49
And sharing it is. That's not the way this Gobon is supposed to work. 01:28:59
It's capital projects. 01:29:04
We spend it on capital project. 01:29:06
We spend it on half a million of it to get. 01:29:08
Equipment for the IT and it comes out of the budget. 01:29:12
Well, the four million will be spent on capital projects. It has to be. 01:29:16
I understand that, but we need to understand, we need to agree with the Commissioners how we're going to spend the capital money. 01:29:20
Not split it. 01:29:26
We're not going to use these. We're not. We're not splitting it. 01:29:28
Commissioners are getting $4 million. 01:29:31
They're giving back $2,000,000 out of their budget. 01:29:34
So. 01:29:37
It's it's, it's crazy talk. 01:29:38
As far as I'm concerned, I don't know why it's crazy to you now, because this is what we agreed to last time. Last time. 01:29:41
And it turned out. 01:29:47
How horrible we've got. 01:29:49
A document now. 01:29:51
I don't agree with it, but you guys, I mean I'm only one person. I think we should agree on 4,000,005 year period. 01:29:52
For your period, it can be from. 01:30:01
We get it upside. 01:30:03
We get it up front, but I mean, but then we have to pay for it back about a three-year period, five year period. What's what's it 01:30:04
gonna be the terms? 01:30:07
It can be up to 7. 01:30:11
We we decide that when, when it goes to market. 01:30:14
How we want to market it. 01:30:17
And then? 01:30:18
Also to your point, Denise, I thought we. 01:30:20
Not it hadn't been formal, but it's pretty much understood we're going. 01:30:23
The sheriff's of vehicles with. 01:30:27
That go up on money. 01:30:29
From what I understand, that's what I. 01:30:30
That's a one time thing and the sheriff needs cars every year. 01:30:33
You know. 01:30:37
I'm OK with using part of it. That's what I said we need to understand. 01:30:38
Between all of us. 01:30:44
Put a list together. 01:30:46
Let's get stained to put the list together. How are we going to spend the 4 million? 01:30:47
And let him. 01:30:51
The Commissioners can can give us that that list. 01:30:52
OK, you said in the last meeting. 01:30:57
We should bond. 01:30:59
Sheriff's vehicles. 01:31:00
I do. I think so too. 01:31:02
But since then? 01:31:04
I do understand that that is a every year. 01:31:06
Saying and and this is. 01:31:10
You know, umm. 01:31:12
I I do think we should do that. 01:31:14
I don't think we should split the money. 01:31:18
I think it just causes. 01:31:20
All kinds of. 01:31:22
It's not the way this Gobon is intended to work. 01:31:25
It's not. 01:31:28
I'm going to ask you to add that to the 25th agenda as well. 01:31:30
Yes. 01:31:34
OK, so we will have a list of projects. 01:31:36
For everybody to look over. 01:31:40
The commissioners need help. 01:31:45
They need the funding. 01:31:46
They they would love to see it go higher. 01:31:49
But uh. 01:31:51
This this funds. 01:31:56
The projects that they have to pay. 01:31:58
Forward. 01:32:00
At the beginning that they get reimbursed for. 01:32:02
This goes into their rotating till for projects that they get reimbursed for but they have to pay for up front. 01:32:04
So. 01:32:10
We know we we know Blackston Mill. 01:32:12
Is going to get replaced. 01:32:14
Bridge 27 is going to. 01:32:16
A major overhaul. 01:32:18
We just saw a presentation from the parks. 01:32:21
Some of that. 01:32:23
Not doable. 01:32:27
But a large part of that is just to keep parks. 01:32:28
Going. 01:32:32
For a shelter tonight. 01:32:33
Fall down. 01:32:35
So. 01:32:37
There will be more projects than. 01:32:38
This will even touch. 01:32:41
And I will get a list of those and make sure everybody gets a copy of it in their e-mail before that meeting. 01:32:43
OK. 01:32:51
I would also like to see at that meeting. 01:32:54
Like Jim was saying. 01:32:58
Are we gonna are we gonna reduce PRT or get rid of PRT or are we gonna reduce? 01:33:01
Public safety. 01:33:05
In the amount of these two wheel tax and go bond. 01:33:07
Taxes that we're putting in place. 01:33:11
Are we going to reduce something so that? 01:33:13
Our constituents come out net. 01:33:15
Zero increase in taxes. 01:33:18
You can certainly propose. 01:33:22
Any amendment that you would like? 01:33:25
My personal opinion is. 01:33:28
We have two years remaining. 01:33:29
We're uncertain of. 01:33:31
What that's all going to look like, We know we're going to do something with EMS. 01:33:34
And, umm. 01:33:38
We know we're going to do something with the Ms. Nobody's presented anything. We have a contract coming up, but. 01:33:39
I haven't. I mean next year. 01:33:45
So it's it's my personal opinion that we let it run its course. 01:33:51
I would. 01:34:04
I would ask. 01:34:05
I'll put it in. 01:34:07
To ask Steve to write a resolution to. 01:34:08
Reduce the public safety tax by two basis points. 01:34:11
I don't know, there's much appetite to reduce the. 01:34:15
Property tax Relief Fund because. 01:34:18
Of what it does to the. 01:34:21
The other taxi units that the schools are getting hit. 01:34:23
Farm so I brought that up also. 01:34:27
So I don't, I don't think there's a whole lot of. 01:34:29
No, I think it needs to be publicly. 01:34:31
OK. 01:34:34
Any other comments? 01:34:36
I look for a motion to adjourn. 01:34:41
So moved. 01:34:42
We are adjourned. 01:34:45