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Regular County Council meeting for Tuesday, May 13th, 2025. Please rise and recycle Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:03
The United States of America. 00:00:12
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation. 00:00:16
Under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice. 00:00:20
We have formed tonight we are. 00:00:28
Missing Mr. Fry Burger. 00:00:30
From the panel to 9. 00:00:33
Please bow your heads. Please. 00:00:36
Father God, we thank you for. 00:00:38
This opportunity to meet. 00:00:40
In the business of this county, we thank you that we live in this country. 00:00:42
Where we can meet? 00:00:45
In an open forum. 00:00:46
Thank you for. 00:00:48
His constitutional Republic. 00:00:49
We just ask for safety over our. 00:00:51
Police, firemen, first responders. 00:00:53
Over all of our military men and women serving. 00:00:56
Here and around the world. 00:00:59
Pray for peace of Jerusalem. 00:01:01
Let me ask you to to. 00:01:04
Bless these proceedings and keep us all safe. 00:01:06
On the way out of here. 00:01:08
Jesus name Amen. 00:01:09
All right. Acceptance of the agenda for tonight. 00:01:12
So moved second. 00:01:15
Motion. 00:01:17
Discussion on the agenda. 00:01:18
All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:01:21
That carries approval of minutes from April 8th meeting. 00:01:24
I make a motion. We approve the. 00:01:30
I'll second that. 00:01:32
Motion and a second for the approval of April 8. 00:01:33
Minutes. Any discussion? 00:01:36
All in favor say aye. 00:01:39
Any opposed that carries? 00:01:41
Is there anyone from the public? 00:01:44
I'd like to speak before we get started. 00:01:46
OK. 00:01:55
For commissioners meeting. 00:01:56
Sure, no problem. 00:02:00
No problem. 00:02:01
All right. 00:02:03
Mr. Matt Lord, you're up. 00:02:04
Good evening. Good evening you have. 00:02:09
Put the engines on the agenda. Both 1. 00:02:12
The legal charges, that's very good. 00:02:16
Kind of come into a conflict, counts out the work that we're we're providing. 00:02:20
And. 00:02:25
You get a lot of carryover from the past year. 00:02:27
Shall we conclude the club? 00:02:33
That pine, Adam. 00:02:35
We're hoping this to get a good. 00:02:37
And we also had a unusual expense in that we were ordered to pay. 00:02:44
The private council, which happened from time to time. 00:02:52
So when you order to pay though, we. 00:02:56
I'm happy to elaborate on any part of that. 00:03:11
Do we ever set fees like when we have to hire private counsel? Does the. 00:03:21
Defendants ever have to Do we ever set fees on the defendants? 00:03:25
And try to recruit some of that money. 00:03:29
Turn beyond. 00:03:32
Yeah, no, the week after we pay them do. 00:03:36
We to represent a defendant, I take it. 00:03:40
The defendant never have to reimburse the county for. 00:03:42
Having that. 00:03:47
'S usually the way that we get paid. It's not very much, but. 00:03:50
Same thing at any other. 00:03:59
Occasionally if someone had put the high bond or they came to have more access than a typical postman. 00:04:03
It's been kind of. 00:04:11
Sometimes the judges have ordered our. 00:04:13
But if that's been feeling really weird. 00:04:21
Because otherwise you. 00:04:25
Not to qualify. 00:04:27
So when the judge appoints the public defender, they can. 00:04:33
Depending on the assets they they could. 00:04:38
I have the that defendant pay a fee toward it that it's really. 00:04:40
I haven't done criminal in a long, long time, but it was it's pretty rare. 00:04:45
I guess I would have a question. 00:04:51
Just another damn brother came to mind. But sometimes family has posted a Sigma. 00:04:53
And we're not OK. 00:05:01
It will be in Africa. 00:05:03
And you consider using some of the bond and. 00:05:10
12 different vaccines, so we do everything we can to try to. 00:05:13
Mitigate it and sometimes. 00:05:17
I guess this is more of a question for the judge if they were sitting here. 00:05:21
Why would they order you? 00:05:25
Public defender, though. 00:05:26
Provide counseling service. 00:05:28
Don't we have a contract Councilman service in the jail? 00:05:29
What do you actually understand? 00:05:35
Private council. 00:05:37
Background notes, yeah. 00:05:45
So sometimes. 00:05:49
Flipped it out across the board or whatever. 00:05:51
So when that happened, we have to go outside the office. 00:05:55
Take him an hour to walk the cage and that I'll do later that by the Commission that sets all the standards that we file. 00:05:58
The 110. 00:06:05
OK. And then another question did? 00:06:07
This would normally be something Denise would ask my friend. 00:06:10
Did you miss the budget that bad? 00:06:14
You're asking for $30,000. Did you miss the budget that bad? 00:06:17
No, I asked for additional money but it would not. 00:06:21
He asked for it, we didn't do it. 00:06:28
Oh, we didn't. 00:06:29
Oh, excuse me. I'm sorry. 00:06:31
We're all doing what we can before we got stuff. 00:06:36
My motion a second before. 00:06:40
Really. I have this new microphone too. 00:06:43
I move to approve 1A. 00:06:46
I second, OK, we have a motion. Second, is there any other discussion? 00:06:48
Yeah. How often does this happen? I mean, I understand it's unpredictable, but how often does a private defender? 00:06:52
Twice here. OK. 00:07:06
I think that may happen maybe. 00:07:11
Three different times. 00:07:13
There's been a lot of years. 00:07:17
At all OK. 00:07:18
Yeah, like there's only a couple of the private council by the. 00:07:22
Really. Probably where I guess. 00:07:26
You know we have a comprehensive plan. 00:07:36
It has that we do. 00:07:47
So now if we've said no, we won't do that. 00:07:49
That could be a violation of that and jeopardize W but. 00:07:52
OK. And this? 00:07:56
Typically a more serious. 00:07:58
Crime or high profile type case. 00:08:01
Where this is so there is a likelihood that we could see more that that. 00:08:05
This year. 00:08:08
OK. 00:08:11
A big decay. 00:08:13
Yeah. 00:08:15
Or that might be what I suppose getting involved and. 00:08:18
OK. 00:08:25
For whatever I was having with them. 00:08:28
And the number. 00:08:41
Julia came to #5 and A5 at. 00:08:45
Kind of slowly like that. 00:08:49
Right, over that period of time, well, some of the level. 00:08:50
No, I've gone down a little bit, but. 00:08:54
When you have more more serious care. 00:08:57
It's more just more work involved and when you're doing some of the lower level. 00:09:01
This will This will be an area to watch during the. 00:09:05
That's yeah. 00:09:07
That was my plan. 00:09:10
Any other discussion on 1A? 00:09:12
All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:09:17
Thank you. 00:09:19
I didn't believe that would be. 00:09:21
Actually. 00:09:26
At 8:00 at the kids and have a position we approved. 00:09:29
Yeah. 00:09:33
I make a motion to approve. 00:09:35
1B. 00:09:37
Second motion a second for 1B. 00:09:38
Any discussion or questions for Mr. Lodge? 00:09:41
All in favor say aye aye. 00:09:46
Any opposed? 00:09:48
The last one. 00:09:51
This one coming from our supplemental fund. 00:09:53
You know, trying out some. 00:09:56
Good. 00:10:01
Overview of audio and video. 00:10:03
Got a lot more like 5-10 minutes and. 00:10:06
Like I think in the public. 00:10:09
Which is quite a bit too. 00:10:16
And especially when they're preparing out of town, so. 00:10:21
Something like that. We're hoping that to us like this, that we can get to them. 00:10:24
Will help cut down the amount of time we have to bend out and be more so. 00:10:29
That. 00:10:34
Motion to approve one seat. 00:10:41
2nd we have a motion, a second for one. See any? 00:10:43
Yeah, Mr. Larch, is this a software? 00:10:47
That has a recurring license. 00:10:50
Is it? Is it a piece of software that has a reoccurring licensing fee? 00:10:54
With an end so this license for 13 nights. 00:10:58
OK. 00:11:03
For one year. 00:11:05
Yes. OK, so how do you see this helping with? 00:11:06
The cost of. 00:11:11
Public Defender. 00:11:13
Salaries or consulting fees, is it going to help reduce those at all or maybe we don't? 00:11:18
Need to hire an additional? 00:11:24
Public Defender. 00:11:27
Perfect example, we just have to hire an outer counter. 00:11:29
What we hope is wonderful that. 00:11:34
Harvard. 00:11:35
And being not involved. 00:11:39
Quite a significant amount. 00:11:42
Uh, body PM and otherwise. 00:11:45
So when we hire somebody with lung fan and that's. 00:11:47
We're going to say here's a license for you to use. 00:11:52
Don't just go sit and watch all that you deaf bug. 00:11:56
Be a patient. 00:12:01
Get in regard to the beginning. 00:12:03
We have to go to trial, we have to watch everything anyway. 00:12:04
But the hope is that. 00:12:08
Doing some front end. 00:12:11
You know, everything would be there. 00:12:14
Will help us make quicker. 00:12:16
You get. 00:12:20
Matt, I just want to say kudos because. 00:12:21
This is exactly from my point of view. 00:12:24
The kind of stuff that we're looking for all of our county offices to do. 00:12:28
Let's use technology. 00:12:32
Wherever we can. 00:12:34
These are, you know, salary cost. 00:12:36
We continue to your other option. 00:12:39
Obviously, you know. 00:12:44
Audio, video, kind of one thing, but. 00:12:45
We also have document. 00:12:48
So after the fact, I think that we're evaluating potential diluting board to improve our emergency and. 00:12:50
Do you think you'll be able to track? 00:12:59
Hours that were saved maybe. Or I mean to justify. 00:13:01
The price of it, I mean. 00:13:06
Yeah, I think that will do that. But. 00:13:07
Look, and for now, we're kind of doing an experiment. 00:13:11
They took some new kind of dog where I'm from. 00:13:15
And I've been putting in fact. 00:13:18
You might have been able to do 75. 00:13:20
I have no doubt that. 00:13:22
Even though we may not see the. 00:13:24
The David Antarva plan on the contractual company. 00:13:27
It's certainly helping them. 00:13:32
Check what? No way. 00:13:34
And and I hope that that lookout more cases. 00:13:37
So I do have one more question. 00:13:44
It looks like your supplemental. 00:13:47
Public Defender Fund has $53,000 in dollars. 00:13:50
Mm-hmm. 00:13:54
It's off now. 00:13:58
So. 00:14:06
Is there could? 00:14:08
Could we have paid for those legal services out of your supplemental? 00:14:10
Public Defender fund. 00:14:14
Well, we currently have. 00:14:16
John, I think that that the bun bound, we have some other items in there. 00:14:18
That do allow. 00:14:23
But we're trying to, I don't know if you'll remember, but the end of last year. 00:14:28
We like to leave what we can into rainy day. 00:14:37
Find out. 00:14:41
So we're kinda. 00:14:43
Let that come back up, especially with the. 00:14:45
You also deal with carry on from the end of the year cases to. 00:14:48
So like tell me about it. You can have both water. 00:14:52
Any further questions for Mr. Lawrence? 00:15:02
All in favor of 1C say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:15:05
Mr. Creepy. 00:15:11
Good evening. 00:15:17
A few items here. The first is an additional appropriation to the. 00:15:18
Bridge Fund. 00:15:24
$1000 Bridge 51 right away. 00:15:27
These are services that. 00:15:29
Computations. 00:15:32
Expenses that were. 00:15:34
Question to approve. 00:15:37
2. 00:15:40
2nd. 00:15:42
We have a motion a second for 2/8. Any questions for Mr. Greeley? 00:15:43
Can you is 51 is? 00:15:47
Watch the middle. 00:15:50
What's the update on? 00:15:52
Oh, sure. 00:15:57
I usually don't have that problem. 00:15:58
That mic is touchy. Can you? 00:16:01
Can you hear me? 00:16:05
Can you give us an update on the? 00:16:07
Game removal. 00:16:10
So we have a consultant under contract. 00:16:12
To remove the dam. 00:16:15
Jerry Sweet, Ecosystems Connections. 00:16:18
I think he is working through the permitting that's required. 00:16:22
DNR, IDAM, Army Corps of Engineers. 00:16:26
We were out there with him last week. 00:16:31
He believes that. 00:16:35
We'll have the permits in hand. 00:16:37
By the end of the month. 00:16:39
And we'll be able to move forward with this. 00:16:41
We're moving that down. There is sensitive habitat. 00:16:44
For the. 00:16:47
Hellbender. Salamander. 00:16:50
That, uh. 00:16:52
They typically do not allow you to work in creeks during the summer months. 00:16:53
I believe that we will get an example. 00:16:58
Exemption for that one was found there a few years ago. 00:17:00
I believe we'll get an exception again. 00:17:04
We should have. 00:17:06
The timeline to remove it, he said he could probably do it within the. 00:17:07
Week 5 days to actually after that. 00:17:10
And then after that. 00:17:14
So. So part of that is. 00:17:16
Bank reestablishment that's been washed out that will allow us to have the. 00:17:18
Terrain necessary to then repair. 00:17:24
Pair the bridge. 00:17:26
And reopen that. That is the ultimate. 00:17:29
Yes. 00:17:32
Permitting. 00:17:34
So that's where we are. 00:17:39
Hopefully will happen. 00:17:41
With a call from. 00:17:45
Senator Banks office. 00:17:47
We, we actually have, we actually have discussed this and he has been very helpful, very helpful. I'd love to hear that. 00:17:51
Alright, I believe we have a motion in the second for. 00:18:01
Is there any other discussion? 00:18:04
All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:18:06
To be I have a. 00:18:10
This is 9124, the Pensioner Grant fund. 00:18:12
We are establishing 2 new line items. One is for the bridge 51. 00:18:16
One grand one is for the Charlestown Rd. Trail Grant. 00:18:20
These are. 00:18:24
Projects where the. 00:18:25
Original funds came from Motor Vehicle Highways 1173. 00:18:27
We were advised by the State Board of Accounts that reimbursements should not be going back into that fund. 00:18:31
So this is where they will. 00:18:38
Where we've decided. 00:18:40
Apologize. Sources. 00:18:42
We're in the middle of the cleanup. 00:18:44
I moved to approve. 00:18:49
To be second. 00:18:50
We have a motion and a second for 2B. 00:18:53
Any further discussion? 00:18:56
Tell us how the grants work again so. 00:18:58
So it depends. Certain grants have different matching percentages. 00:19:04
Bridge 51 is an 8020 grant. 00:19:09
They're all reimbursable, so. 00:19:13
We have to put the money in first. 00:19:15
Charlestown Rd. We're doing the inspection on that project now, which is 1910. 00:19:18
So working for 10%. 00:19:23
We pay 90, they pay 10 or. 00:19:26
They're paying 100%. 00:19:30
Contraction. Oh, that's awesome. 00:19:31
OK. And it's going? 00:19:34
Right over, right along. It's on schedule. 00:19:36
What's going on? 00:19:39
All right. Any further discussion on to be? 00:19:40
All in favor say aye. 00:19:44
Any opposed that carries Nick? 00:19:46
Did somebody? 00:19:48
Unfriendly person trying to break in this building out there. 00:19:49
Yes, we had. We had a vandalism event here at Pineview on Sunday. We actually had one on Thursday and then again on Sunday the 00:19:53
same. 00:19:57
Individual. It was a resident. 00:20:01
At the youth shelter. 00:20:04
And smash. 00:20:09
Probation windows a couple. 00:20:10
Front entrance. The maintenance entrance. 00:20:13
And damaged 5 vehicles. 00:20:16
We had the adjuster. 00:20:18
Mostly tail lights. 00:20:21
Smash one enough that it's total. 00:20:22
So we're working through that. 00:20:26
I'll just let you know that. 00:20:29
Deductible and this building's $25,000. 00:20:30
So far. 00:20:35
Vehicles, it looks like. 00:20:36
Are all under the deductible except for the total. 00:20:38
Another one that was like three $4000. 00:20:41
It's great. We'll be looking to see if we can recover. 00:20:45
Costs. Imagine you will. 00:20:48
Good evening. 00:21:00
I just have a few things that are covering for some other departments. EMA is doing a line transfer, they're decreasing emergency 00:21:02
planning and. 00:21:05
Training by $500. 00:21:10
Move to approve 3A. 00:21:13
Second motion A second. 00:21:14
Creating any discussion. 00:21:16
All in favor say aye. 00:21:19
Opposed OK. 00:21:21
Prosecutor is transferring out of their fifth deputy position and into miscellaneous supplies, $2500. Again, that's in the general 00:21:24
fund because it crosses the categories. It does have to come before you all. 00:21:29
Move to approve 3B. 00:21:38
2nd we have a motion and a second for 3D. Any discussion? 00:21:39
All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:21:45
That carries superior one. 00:21:49
I they are. 00:21:52
Asking for a transfer. 00:21:55
Within the 12:30 they have a contractual employee. 00:21:58
This is. 00:22:02
This is this is something that you guys approved, but to fund it because we can do half and half out of the 12:30 and half and 00:22:04
half and the 1000. 00:22:08
To save the general funds, the money, we created a new line. 00:22:12
For contractual employees in the 12:30 and we have to move monies out of a line into that, so. 00:22:16
I'll make a motion for 3C. 00:22:25
Second, yeah. 00:22:27
Motion in a second for 3C. Any questions or discussion? 00:22:28
All in favor say aye aye. 00:22:33
Any opposed? 00:22:35
Superior 3 is requesting again, this is out of the salary line and into a contractual line. So it's into it's out of their interns 00:22:38
line and into their interpreter services line. 00:22:42
$750. 00:22:47
I'll make a motion. 00:22:51
For 3D. 00:22:52
Second motion A second for 3D. Any questions or discussion? 00:22:54
All in favor say aye aye. 00:23:01
Any opposed? 00:23:03
Because we've been pointing out budget issues at the last meeting in this meeting, this is another. 00:23:05
Product of refusing to allow the department to budget as needed instead of freezing their budgets year to year. 00:23:09
They always have to transfer money from their interns line and into their translator line. So it would be really great when we 00:23:16
give them instructions this year if we can allow them to budget what they need where they need instead of telling them they have 00:23:20
to freeze their budget exactly as is. 00:23:25
Just as a heads up. 00:23:30
E is this so this is actually. 00:23:32
The full appropriations for this fund, it's for the health department. It's 8905. This is a budget that they have. 00:23:36
For 2025, but they did not have what? 00:23:43
They needed at budget time last year, so this is appropriating their full annual budget to those lines at this point. 00:23:46
This is a reimbursable. 00:23:54
It is a reimbursable grant, yes. 00:23:56
So we have to spend it and then they give us the money back. 00:23:58
Motion to approve for E. 00:24:02
As happened also. 00:24:04
2nd. 00:24:05
Motion a second for three. 00:24:06
Any discussion or questions? 00:24:08
All in favor say aye. 00:24:11
Any opposed? 00:24:13
Take care. 00:24:15
F is the liability insurance for the 4H. So the county has historically helped with 4H by covering their liability insurance year 00:24:16
to year. It did go up. 00:24:20
This year, that's not really surprised considering what happened in our community last year. 00:24:25
So the increase was 16103 dollars. 00:24:30
We did not budget for that additional increase, so we do need an additional appropriation because we did in fact pay this bill. 00:24:33
Motion to. 00:24:39
2nd. 00:24:42
Motion and a second for 3F any discussion. 00:24:43
I'm assuming that may go down next year since there's no. 00:24:47
Rats one would help. 00:24:50
Any further discussion? 00:24:52
All in favor of 3F say aye. 00:24:54
So G is an additional appropriation in the actual public safety fund. This is to cover the contractual obligations for our EMS 00:24:59
service in the county. 00:25:04
Once this is appropriated, we will cut this check for exactly this amount and we will transfer it into the 4000 fund which is our 00:25:09
actual EMS non reverting fund because that is where we currently pay the bills from. 00:25:15
That is a non revenue fund. 00:25:20
So it is running negative right now. So that's all this is. This is to cover ambulance services. 00:25:22
I make a motion for 3G. 00:25:27
2nd do you have a motion a second for 3G? 00:25:30
Any discussion? 00:25:33
And this covers us out till the end of this year. 00:25:34
Into this year. 00:25:38
It's everything that's already spent this year and the rest of the remaining contractual payments for this year. 00:25:41
Doesn't take care of anything else. 00:25:46
Any further discussion? 00:25:48
All in favor of 3G say aye aye. 00:25:51
Any opposed? 00:25:54
Two quick. 00:25:57
Just FYI items. 00:25:59
I know that everyone is antsy and waiting to hear back from Baker Tilly to see what our our new. 00:26:01
Financial projections and options are going to be. 00:26:08
When last I spoke with Paige, we are still looking at a first week of June. As far as the reports, I will remind everyone. 00:26:13
That. 00:26:20
The DLGF is currently picking apart House Bill One, and they've only had nine business days to start attacking it. 00:26:21
So the month of May is pretty much the DLG of figuring out how to implement that into our taxation systems to see how it's truly 00:26:27
going to affect counties. 00:26:32
Baker Tilly did say that we could look for our report the first week of June. 00:26:37
And I'll be following up with her again probably within the next week, just to make sure we're still on that timeline and to see 00:26:41
when she could. 00:26:44
Schedule a presentation for the Council. 00:26:48
So there's that just kind of as a reminder. That's where we're at right now. Just remember. 00:26:51
They can't give us projections without rules. 00:26:55
And the DLJ office who provides us the rules. 00:26:58
Additionally, I know that there was some concern about. 00:27:01
Property tax. 00:27:06
Fuels and the current form elevens that went out. 00:27:07
Seems county wide due to the. 00:27:11
New state rules and assessment when it comes to property and there were, I know of at least two, maybe 3 neighborhoods at the 00:27:14
assessor's office said was assessed incorrectly and that they are reworking them and they'll be sending out. 00:27:19
Updated form elevens, but in the meantime. 00:27:25
Anyone who has? 00:27:28
Constituents asking about their assessments. 00:27:29
And how to? 00:27:32
Appeal the process or get it corrected, or even just find out how it was based. 00:27:34
I know that the commissioners website has a link to the appeals process. I know that the form 11. 00:27:40
Had any field form with it alone with. 00:27:44
Instructions on how to file. 00:27:48
And then you can go to the assessor's website and find it as well, or you can go in person and talk to the lovely staff down in 00:27:50
the assessor's office. But there are multiple ways. 00:27:54
To appeal your assessment. 00:27:58
Or to just at least ask on how that happened. That's June 15th. June 15th is the deadline. 00:27:59
Will these new assessments come out before June 15th? I have no idea. That would be a question for Mr. Watson. 00:28:05
I believe they're attempting to. 00:28:11
I know that as soon as the. 00:28:13
Issues were discovered. They immediately started reworking. Were they high or low? 00:28:17
Oh, they were too high. 00:28:22
I have. I actually have a staffer. 00:28:24
I have a staffer who. 00:28:27
Is in one of those neighborhoods and her assessment increased by $100,000. 00:28:28
And it was it. It's it, it basically. 00:28:34
Doubled the value of her home. 00:28:37
So. 00:28:39
There are, there's a lot of rework and happening down there and they are, they're very upfront about it and they're happy to 00:28:40
explain things. So if you have constituents with questions, direct them. 00:28:45
To the assessor's website, commissioner's website, or to the assessor's office themselves. 00:28:50
I think what I think there's some confusion as well that needs to be explained and that is. 00:28:54
That those are. 00:29:00
New assessment values are from next year's. 00:29:02
I believe it explains it in the letter that it is 25 K 26 taxes. 00:29:06
And it is not the tax bill that you received in the. 00:29:12
April The other thing that people I think don't understand and what I've been trying to explain to people is that. 00:29:15
Just because the value of. 00:29:24
Carl may have gone up 15%. 00:29:27
That doesn't mean the county gets a 15% increase. 00:29:30
No, absolutely not. I wish that you'd great. 00:29:35
Yes, because. 00:29:37
Max that. 00:29:40
We I mean. 00:29:42
In the last few years has been set at 4%, so. 00:29:43
I I think there's a lot of confusion about why doesn't the county have enough taxes. Look at the values keep going up and up and 00:29:49
up. Well, the county is not responsible for setting how your property is assessed if they have questions about that. 00:29:55
It's there. There are limits on the amount. 00:30:06
Of the leverage that we can receive in and that should cause your rate to go down that's that's what I that was my next point you 00:30:11
want to see him really get upset till. 00:30:15
Tax rate actually went down. 00:30:20
And they won't not like that either. 00:30:22
Yeah. So anyways, there's a lot of, there's a lot of miss. 00:30:25
Information. 00:30:31
Out there I think or non information that people. 00:30:32
Need to be aware I was just asked Sabrina the appeals process, you know, and and and the other thing is, is that you should look 00:30:36
at the amount of taxes that are coming to the county versus the schools and the fire. 00:30:43
Nobody does that. I know I wish they did, but they don't. We're back to what I'm trying to tell people and if they're watching I I 00:30:50
want people to understand that. 00:30:54
We get a very small percentage of the total taxes that are being paid. Indiana Gateway will show you exactly where every single 00:30:59
tax dollar goes. So again, to the people watching, if you have questions about where your tax monies go, go look at Indiana 00:31:03
Gateway and look up Floyd County. 00:31:08
You will see that. 00:31:13
Right around 80% gets split between New Albany City and our school system. 00:31:15
So that is the two largest taxing district recipients in our county. 00:31:20
So if you have questions, go look. If you have questions, call me. I'm happy to walk you through where all of your tax dollars go 00:31:25
in this county. 00:31:28
You got the big screen. 00:31:31
I do have the big screen, I have spreadsheets and everything. 00:31:33
Any other questions guys? 00:31:37
Sorry, it's OK. 00:31:41
Item 8 is the ordinance for transfers. 00:31:42
That's right. 00:31:45
I moved to approve item 8 as published. 00:31:47
2nd we have a motion in a second. 00:31:50
For the transfers, any discussion? 00:31:52
All in favor say aye aye. 00:31:57
Imposed that carries. 00:31:59
Mr. Brand, you have any? 00:32:03
Committee reports or anything to add this evening? 00:32:05
No, sorry, I don't. 00:32:08
No. 00:32:10
I went to. 00:32:13
I think it's called outside the court. 00:32:14
Breakfast, meeting up and. 00:32:17
Judge Reader put on with them. 00:32:18
State Supreme Court. 00:32:20
Justice. It's a good event. 00:32:23
It's amazing what the courts are doing. 00:32:25
Working with inmates and stuff, getting them back into the public. 00:32:28
A lot of things going on. 00:32:32
I did go there and another just just. 00:32:34
Observation not being punished because I don't like technology. 00:32:37
Much green is the darkest. 00:32:41
And I'm glad I got paper. I'll just say it. 00:32:44
Mr. Sargenson. 00:32:49
I actually did have a couple questions at the risk of of. 00:32:51
Finding my fellow Councilman. 00:32:53
Talking too much. No, Tony and I had the conversation again. Just two quick questions, Daniel in this. The first one might be a 00:32:55
little premature, but. 00:32:59
Once we get a report out from Baker Tilly, do we have plans for a work session following that? Probably several. OK. 00:33:03
My second question too is, as a new person, as it relates to all of the backfill requests that we get, is that something that we 00:33:11
need? 00:33:17
To is everybody OK if we if we just get an e-mail saying this is going to be backfilled and not? 00:33:22
Both on the back hill. 00:33:28
Only only vote on it. 00:33:31
Right, still still a hiring freeze for new positions, but not. 00:33:34
Are we OK with that? Yeah. 00:33:40
Yeah, we can do that at the. 00:33:45
We can do at the next meeting, but. 00:33:47
Will just add that to the agenda. Thank you for bringing that up. OK. 00:33:49
Tony, Tony, I'm done. Just one last thing. 00:33:55
RFP or bonds will hit the market tomorrow for. 00:34:01
Financing request. 00:34:06
Request, yeah. 00:34:08
The AIC bill. The AIC. 00:34:09
Conference. It's one in May, right? 00:34:13
There's a June 21st state called Council Conference. 00:34:16
That is put on by AIC. There is not one in May. OK, there's A at this time. 00:34:21
President, that's the best. 00:34:28
There's one in Madison I think Thursday. 00:34:30
Yeah, what are you talking about in Madison? 00:34:33
There's an. 00:34:35
We went. 00:34:37
A couple years ago, Denise, Alexis, I remember. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't have Monday. 00:34:38
On my socket or from AIC at all? Did you receive an e-mail e-mail? 00:34:44
Anytime they send one out for council or commissioners or for AIC as a. 00:34:52
Whole I always forward it to you all. 00:34:57
So AIC puts on 2/2 conferences each year. That is for everyone. Your legislative conference in February, which I attended. 00:35:00
And then your fall conference, which usually hits about August, September, which is again for everyone and that's just kind of 00:35:09
it's a four day. 00:35:13
Classes, training, networking, figuring out what other counties are doing and how they're addressing things. Event. There is a 00:35:17
state called conference for council and their auditors to attend and that is June 21st of this year. 00:35:24
Mr. Bagshaw and Mr. Short have both signed up to go to that. 00:35:31
At this point I did notify everyone about that I will be attending as well. I'm sorry you'd like to sign up for that. I will look 00:35:34
and make sure. 00:35:39
Those rooms go really fast. 00:35:44
So whether or not they still have rooms available, you can register up until the day before. But as far as finding somewhere to 00:35:46
stay up in Carmel, that's another question. 00:35:50
But I'll see if any of the room blocks are available if you're still interested. 00:35:55
I'm happy to register. 00:35:58
I think this one's going to be really, really important. It's the only reason I'm going. I don't like going to conference and I 00:36:01
don't normally go to the Council 1, but I'm going this year. 00:36:05
Well, I would. Can you send me that e-mail again? I'll get you registered tomorrow, OK? 00:36:09
OK to search a cost. 00:36:14
Yes, ma'am. And it's because it's a state called conference. It is covered by the general fund. OK. So yeah, I would, I would be 00:36:17
interested in doing that. I think it's important. 00:36:21
I will go ahead and get you registered tomorrow. 00:36:26
Does anybody else want to take me up on that? 00:36:28
I'm out of the country. 00:36:32
I understand that we've talked about this. 00:36:33
OK, well I'll get you set up tomorrow and I'll send you the e-mail confirmations. 00:36:36
Thank you. Any other questions? 00:36:40
Anybody else from the public would like to speak before we adjourn for the evening? 00:36:45
Seeing none, I will entertain a motion to adjourn. I make a motion to adjourn. 00:36:49
Second, all in favor, Aye, we are adjourned. 00:36:54
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Event transcript
Regular County Council meeting for Tuesday, May 13th, 2025. Please rise and recycle Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:03
The United States of America. 00:00:12
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation. 00:00:16
Under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice. 00:00:20
We have formed tonight we are. 00:00:28
Missing Mr. Fry Burger. 00:00:30
From the panel to 9. 00:00:33
Please bow your heads. Please. 00:00:36
Father God, we thank you for. 00:00:38
This opportunity to meet. 00:00:40
In the business of this county, we thank you that we live in this country. 00:00:42
Where we can meet? 00:00:45
In an open forum. 00:00:46
Thank you for. 00:00:48
His constitutional Republic. 00:00:49
We just ask for safety over our. 00:00:51
Police, firemen, first responders. 00:00:53
Over all of our military men and women serving. 00:00:56
Here and around the world. 00:00:59
Pray for peace of Jerusalem. 00:01:01
Let me ask you to to. 00:01:04
Bless these proceedings and keep us all safe. 00:01:06
On the way out of here. 00:01:08
Jesus name Amen. 00:01:09
All right. Acceptance of the agenda for tonight. 00:01:12
So moved second. 00:01:15
Motion. 00:01:17
Discussion on the agenda. 00:01:18
All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:01:21
That carries approval of minutes from April 8th meeting. 00:01:24
I make a motion. We approve the. 00:01:30
I'll second that. 00:01:32
Motion and a second for the approval of April 8. 00:01:33
Minutes. Any discussion? 00:01:36
All in favor say aye. 00:01:39
Any opposed that carries? 00:01:41
Is there anyone from the public? 00:01:44
I'd like to speak before we get started. 00:01:46
OK. 00:01:55
For commissioners meeting. 00:01:56
Sure, no problem. 00:02:00
No problem. 00:02:01
All right. 00:02:03
Mr. Matt Lord, you're up. 00:02:04
Good evening. Good evening you have. 00:02:09
Put the engines on the agenda. Both 1. 00:02:12
The legal charges, that's very good. 00:02:16
Kind of come into a conflict, counts out the work that we're we're providing. 00:02:20
And. 00:02:25
You get a lot of carryover from the past year. 00:02:27
Shall we conclude the club? 00:02:33
That pine, Adam. 00:02:35
We're hoping this to get a good. 00:02:37
And we also had a unusual expense in that we were ordered to pay. 00:02:44
The private council, which happened from time to time. 00:02:52
So when you order to pay though, we. 00:02:56
I'm happy to elaborate on any part of that. 00:03:11
Do we ever set fees like when we have to hire private counsel? Does the. 00:03:21
Defendants ever have to Do we ever set fees on the defendants? 00:03:25
And try to recruit some of that money. 00:03:29
Turn beyond. 00:03:32
Yeah, no, the week after we pay them do. 00:03:36
We to represent a defendant, I take it. 00:03:40
The defendant never have to reimburse the county for. 00:03:42
Having that. 00:03:47
'S usually the way that we get paid. It's not very much, but. 00:03:50
Same thing at any other. 00:03:59
Occasionally if someone had put the high bond or they came to have more access than a typical postman. 00:04:03
It's been kind of. 00:04:11
Sometimes the judges have ordered our. 00:04:13
But if that's been feeling really weird. 00:04:21
Because otherwise you. 00:04:25
Not to qualify. 00:04:27
So when the judge appoints the public defender, they can. 00:04:33
Depending on the assets they they could. 00:04:38
I have the that defendant pay a fee toward it that it's really. 00:04:40
I haven't done criminal in a long, long time, but it was it's pretty rare. 00:04:45
I guess I would have a question. 00:04:51
Just another damn brother came to mind. But sometimes family has posted a Sigma. 00:04:53
And we're not OK. 00:05:01
It will be in Africa. 00:05:03
And you consider using some of the bond and. 00:05:10
12 different vaccines, so we do everything we can to try to. 00:05:13
Mitigate it and sometimes. 00:05:17
I guess this is more of a question for the judge if they were sitting here. 00:05:21
Why would they order you? 00:05:25
Public defender, though. 00:05:26
Provide counseling service. 00:05:28
Don't we have a contract Councilman service in the jail? 00:05:29
What do you actually understand? 00:05:35
Private council. 00:05:37
Background notes, yeah. 00:05:45
So sometimes. 00:05:49
Flipped it out across the board or whatever. 00:05:51
So when that happened, we have to go outside the office. 00:05:55
Take him an hour to walk the cage and that I'll do later that by the Commission that sets all the standards that we file. 00:05:58
The 110. 00:06:05
OK. And then another question did? 00:06:07
This would normally be something Denise would ask my friend. 00:06:10
Did you miss the budget that bad? 00:06:14
You're asking for $30,000. Did you miss the budget that bad? 00:06:17
No, I asked for additional money but it would not. 00:06:21
He asked for it, we didn't do it. 00:06:28
Oh, we didn't. 00:06:29
Oh, excuse me. I'm sorry. 00:06:31
We're all doing what we can before we got stuff. 00:06:36
My motion a second before. 00:06:40
Really. I have this new microphone too. 00:06:43
I move to approve 1A. 00:06:46
I second, OK, we have a motion. Second, is there any other discussion? 00:06:48
Yeah. How often does this happen? I mean, I understand it's unpredictable, but how often does a private defender? 00:06:52
Twice here. OK. 00:07:06
I think that may happen maybe. 00:07:11
Three different times. 00:07:13
There's been a lot of years. 00:07:17
At all OK. 00:07:18
Yeah, like there's only a couple of the private council by the. 00:07:22
Really. Probably where I guess. 00:07:26
You know we have a comprehensive plan. 00:07:36
It has that we do. 00:07:47
So now if we've said no, we won't do that. 00:07:49
That could be a violation of that and jeopardize W but. 00:07:52
OK. And this? 00:07:56
Typically a more serious. 00:07:58
Crime or high profile type case. 00:08:01
Where this is so there is a likelihood that we could see more that that. 00:08:05
This year. 00:08:08
OK. 00:08:11
A big decay. 00:08:13
Yeah. 00:08:15
Or that might be what I suppose getting involved and. 00:08:18
OK. 00:08:25
For whatever I was having with them. 00:08:28
And the number. 00:08:41
Julia came to #5 and A5 at. 00:08:45
Kind of slowly like that. 00:08:49
Right, over that period of time, well, some of the level. 00:08:50
No, I've gone down a little bit, but. 00:08:54
When you have more more serious care. 00:08:57
It's more just more work involved and when you're doing some of the lower level. 00:09:01
This will This will be an area to watch during the. 00:09:05
That's yeah. 00:09:07
That was my plan. 00:09:10
Any other discussion on 1A? 00:09:12
All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:09:17
Thank you. 00:09:19
I didn't believe that would be. 00:09:21
Actually. 00:09:26
At 8:00 at the kids and have a position we approved. 00:09:29
Yeah. 00:09:33
I make a motion to approve. 00:09:35
1B. 00:09:37
Second motion a second for 1B. 00:09:38
Any discussion or questions for Mr. Lodge? 00:09:41
All in favor say aye aye. 00:09:46
Any opposed? 00:09:48
The last one. 00:09:51
This one coming from our supplemental fund. 00:09:53
You know, trying out some. 00:09:56
Good. 00:10:01
Overview of audio and video. 00:10:03
Got a lot more like 5-10 minutes and. 00:10:06
Like I think in the public. 00:10:09
Which is quite a bit too. 00:10:16
And especially when they're preparing out of town, so. 00:10:21
Something like that. We're hoping that to us like this, that we can get to them. 00:10:24
Will help cut down the amount of time we have to bend out and be more so. 00:10:29
That. 00:10:34
Motion to approve one seat. 00:10:41
2nd we have a motion, a second for one. See any? 00:10:43
Yeah, Mr. Larch, is this a software? 00:10:47
That has a recurring license. 00:10:50
Is it? Is it a piece of software that has a reoccurring licensing fee? 00:10:54
With an end so this license for 13 nights. 00:10:58
OK. 00:11:03
For one year. 00:11:05
Yes. OK, so how do you see this helping with? 00:11:06
The cost of. 00:11:11
Public Defender. 00:11:13
Salaries or consulting fees, is it going to help reduce those at all or maybe we don't? 00:11:18
Need to hire an additional? 00:11:24
Public Defender. 00:11:27
Perfect example, we just have to hire an outer counter. 00:11:29
What we hope is wonderful that. 00:11:34
Harvard. 00:11:35
And being not involved. 00:11:39
Quite a significant amount. 00:11:42
Uh, body PM and otherwise. 00:11:45
So when we hire somebody with lung fan and that's. 00:11:47
We're going to say here's a license for you to use. 00:11:52
Don't just go sit and watch all that you deaf bug. 00:11:56
Be a patient. 00:12:01
Get in regard to the beginning. 00:12:03
We have to go to trial, we have to watch everything anyway. 00:12:04
But the hope is that. 00:12:08
Doing some front end. 00:12:11
You know, everything would be there. 00:12:14
Will help us make quicker. 00:12:16
You get. 00:12:20
Matt, I just want to say kudos because. 00:12:21
This is exactly from my point of view. 00:12:24
The kind of stuff that we're looking for all of our county offices to do. 00:12:28
Let's use technology. 00:12:32
Wherever we can. 00:12:34
These are, you know, salary cost. 00:12:36
We continue to your other option. 00:12:39
Obviously, you know. 00:12:44
Audio, video, kind of one thing, but. 00:12:45
We also have document. 00:12:48
So after the fact, I think that we're evaluating potential diluting board to improve our emergency and. 00:12:50
Do you think you'll be able to track? 00:12:59
Hours that were saved maybe. Or I mean to justify. 00:13:01
The price of it, I mean. 00:13:06
Yeah, I think that will do that. But. 00:13:07
Look, and for now, we're kind of doing an experiment. 00:13:11
They took some new kind of dog where I'm from. 00:13:15
And I've been putting in fact. 00:13:18
You might have been able to do 75. 00:13:20
I have no doubt that. 00:13:22
Even though we may not see the. 00:13:24
The David Antarva plan on the contractual company. 00:13:27
It's certainly helping them. 00:13:32
Check what? No way. 00:13:34
And and I hope that that lookout more cases. 00:13:37
So I do have one more question. 00:13:44
It looks like your supplemental. 00:13:47
Public Defender Fund has $53,000 in dollars. 00:13:50
Mm-hmm. 00:13:54
It's off now. 00:13:58
So. 00:14:06
Is there could? 00:14:08
Could we have paid for those legal services out of your supplemental? 00:14:10
Public Defender fund. 00:14:14
Well, we currently have. 00:14:16
John, I think that that the bun bound, we have some other items in there. 00:14:18
That do allow. 00:14:23
But we're trying to, I don't know if you'll remember, but the end of last year. 00:14:28
We like to leave what we can into rainy day. 00:14:37
Find out. 00:14:41
So we're kinda. 00:14:43
Let that come back up, especially with the. 00:14:45
You also deal with carry on from the end of the year cases to. 00:14:48
So like tell me about it. You can have both water. 00:14:52
Any further questions for Mr. Lawrence? 00:15:02
All in favor of 1C say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:15:05
Mr. Creepy. 00:15:11
Good evening. 00:15:17
A few items here. The first is an additional appropriation to the. 00:15:18
Bridge Fund. 00:15:24
$1000 Bridge 51 right away. 00:15:27
These are services that. 00:15:29
Computations. 00:15:32
Expenses that were. 00:15:34
Question to approve. 00:15:37
2. 00:15:40
2nd. 00:15:42
We have a motion a second for 2/8. Any questions for Mr. Greeley? 00:15:43
Can you is 51 is? 00:15:47
Watch the middle. 00:15:50
What's the update on? 00:15:52
Oh, sure. 00:15:57
I usually don't have that problem. 00:15:58
That mic is touchy. Can you? 00:16:01
Can you hear me? 00:16:05
Can you give us an update on the? 00:16:07
Game removal. 00:16:10
So we have a consultant under contract. 00:16:12
To remove the dam. 00:16:15
Jerry Sweet, Ecosystems Connections. 00:16:18
I think he is working through the permitting that's required. 00:16:22
DNR, IDAM, Army Corps of Engineers. 00:16:26
We were out there with him last week. 00:16:31
He believes that. 00:16:35
We'll have the permits in hand. 00:16:37
By the end of the month. 00:16:39
And we'll be able to move forward with this. 00:16:41
We're moving that down. There is sensitive habitat. 00:16:44
For the. 00:16:47
Hellbender. Salamander. 00:16:50
That, uh. 00:16:52
They typically do not allow you to work in creeks during the summer months. 00:16:53
I believe that we will get an example. 00:16:58
Exemption for that one was found there a few years ago. 00:17:00
I believe we'll get an exception again. 00:17:04
We should have. 00:17:06
The timeline to remove it, he said he could probably do it within the. 00:17:07
Week 5 days to actually after that. 00:17:10
And then after that. 00:17:14
So. So part of that is. 00:17:16
Bank reestablishment that's been washed out that will allow us to have the. 00:17:18
Terrain necessary to then repair. 00:17:24
Pair the bridge. 00:17:26
And reopen that. That is the ultimate. 00:17:29
Yes. 00:17:32
Permitting. 00:17:34
So that's where we are. 00:17:39
Hopefully will happen. 00:17:41
With a call from. 00:17:45
Senator Banks office. 00:17:47
We, we actually have, we actually have discussed this and he has been very helpful, very helpful. I'd love to hear that. 00:17:51
Alright, I believe we have a motion in the second for. 00:18:01
Is there any other discussion? 00:18:04
All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:18:06
To be I have a. 00:18:10
This is 9124, the Pensioner Grant fund. 00:18:12
We are establishing 2 new line items. One is for the bridge 51. 00:18:16
One grand one is for the Charlestown Rd. Trail Grant. 00:18:20
These are. 00:18:24
Projects where the. 00:18:25
Original funds came from Motor Vehicle Highways 1173. 00:18:27
We were advised by the State Board of Accounts that reimbursements should not be going back into that fund. 00:18:31
So this is where they will. 00:18:38
Where we've decided. 00:18:40
Apologize. Sources. 00:18:42
We're in the middle of the cleanup. 00:18:44
I moved to approve. 00:18:49
To be second. 00:18:50
We have a motion and a second for 2B. 00:18:53
Any further discussion? 00:18:56
Tell us how the grants work again so. 00:18:58
So it depends. Certain grants have different matching percentages. 00:19:04
Bridge 51 is an 8020 grant. 00:19:09
They're all reimbursable, so. 00:19:13
We have to put the money in first. 00:19:15
Charlestown Rd. We're doing the inspection on that project now, which is 1910. 00:19:18
So working for 10%. 00:19:23
We pay 90, they pay 10 or. 00:19:26
They're paying 100%. 00:19:30
Contraction. Oh, that's awesome. 00:19:31
OK. And it's going? 00:19:34
Right over, right along. It's on schedule. 00:19:36
What's going on? 00:19:39
All right. Any further discussion on to be? 00:19:40
All in favor say aye. 00:19:44
Any opposed that carries Nick? 00:19:46
Did somebody? 00:19:48
Unfriendly person trying to break in this building out there. 00:19:49
Yes, we had. We had a vandalism event here at Pineview on Sunday. We actually had one on Thursday and then again on Sunday the 00:19:53
same. 00:19:57
Individual. It was a resident. 00:20:01
At the youth shelter. 00:20:04
And smash. 00:20:09
Probation windows a couple. 00:20:10
Front entrance. The maintenance entrance. 00:20:13
And damaged 5 vehicles. 00:20:16
We had the adjuster. 00:20:18
Mostly tail lights. 00:20:21
Smash one enough that it's total. 00:20:22
So we're working through that. 00:20:26
I'll just let you know that. 00:20:29
Deductible and this building's $25,000. 00:20:30
So far. 00:20:35
Vehicles, it looks like. 00:20:36
Are all under the deductible except for the total. 00:20:38
Another one that was like three $4000. 00:20:41
It's great. We'll be looking to see if we can recover. 00:20:45
Costs. Imagine you will. 00:20:48
Good evening. 00:21:00
I just have a few things that are covering for some other departments. EMA is doing a line transfer, they're decreasing emergency 00:21:02
planning and. 00:21:05
Training by $500. 00:21:10
Move to approve 3A. 00:21:13
Second motion A second. 00:21:14
Creating any discussion. 00:21:16
All in favor say aye. 00:21:19
Opposed OK. 00:21:21
Prosecutor is transferring out of their fifth deputy position and into miscellaneous supplies, $2500. Again, that's in the general 00:21:24
fund because it crosses the categories. It does have to come before you all. 00:21:29
Move to approve 3B. 00:21:38
2nd we have a motion and a second for 3D. Any discussion? 00:21:39
All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:21:45
That carries superior one. 00:21:49
I they are. 00:21:52
Asking for a transfer. 00:21:55
Within the 12:30 they have a contractual employee. 00:21:58
This is. 00:22:02
This is this is something that you guys approved, but to fund it because we can do half and half out of the 12:30 and half and 00:22:04
half and the 1000. 00:22:08
To save the general funds, the money, we created a new line. 00:22:12
For contractual employees in the 12:30 and we have to move monies out of a line into that, so. 00:22:16
I'll make a motion for 3C. 00:22:25
Second, yeah. 00:22:27
Motion in a second for 3C. Any questions or discussion? 00:22:28
All in favor say aye aye. 00:22:33
Any opposed? 00:22:35
Superior 3 is requesting again, this is out of the salary line and into a contractual line. So it's into it's out of their interns 00:22:38
line and into their interpreter services line. 00:22:42
$750. 00:22:47
I'll make a motion. 00:22:51
For 3D. 00:22:52
Second motion A second for 3D. Any questions or discussion? 00:22:54
All in favor say aye aye. 00:23:01
Any opposed? 00:23:03
Because we've been pointing out budget issues at the last meeting in this meeting, this is another. 00:23:05
Product of refusing to allow the department to budget as needed instead of freezing their budgets year to year. 00:23:09
They always have to transfer money from their interns line and into their translator line. So it would be really great when we 00:23:16
give them instructions this year if we can allow them to budget what they need where they need instead of telling them they have 00:23:20
to freeze their budget exactly as is. 00:23:25
Just as a heads up. 00:23:30
E is this so this is actually. 00:23:32
The full appropriations for this fund, it's for the health department. It's 8905. This is a budget that they have. 00:23:36
For 2025, but they did not have what? 00:23:43
They needed at budget time last year, so this is appropriating their full annual budget to those lines at this point. 00:23:46
This is a reimbursable. 00:23:54
It is a reimbursable grant, yes. 00:23:56
So we have to spend it and then they give us the money back. 00:23:58
Motion to approve for E. 00:24:02
As happened also. 00:24:04
2nd. 00:24:05
Motion a second for three. 00:24:06
Any discussion or questions? 00:24:08
All in favor say aye. 00:24:11
Any opposed? 00:24:13
Take care. 00:24:15
F is the liability insurance for the 4H. So the county has historically helped with 4H by covering their liability insurance year 00:24:16
to year. It did go up. 00:24:20
This year, that's not really surprised considering what happened in our community last year. 00:24:25
So the increase was 16103 dollars. 00:24:30
We did not budget for that additional increase, so we do need an additional appropriation because we did in fact pay this bill. 00:24:33
Motion to. 00:24:39
2nd. 00:24:42
Motion and a second for 3F any discussion. 00:24:43
I'm assuming that may go down next year since there's no. 00:24:47
Rats one would help. 00:24:50
Any further discussion? 00:24:52
All in favor of 3F say aye. 00:24:54
So G is an additional appropriation in the actual public safety fund. This is to cover the contractual obligations for our EMS 00:24:59
service in the county. 00:25:04
Once this is appropriated, we will cut this check for exactly this amount and we will transfer it into the 4000 fund which is our 00:25:09
actual EMS non reverting fund because that is where we currently pay the bills from. 00:25:15
That is a non revenue fund. 00:25:20
So it is running negative right now. So that's all this is. This is to cover ambulance services. 00:25:22
I make a motion for 3G. 00:25:27
2nd do you have a motion a second for 3G? 00:25:30
Any discussion? 00:25:33
And this covers us out till the end of this year. 00:25:34
Into this year. 00:25:38
It's everything that's already spent this year and the rest of the remaining contractual payments for this year. 00:25:41
Doesn't take care of anything else. 00:25:46
Any further discussion? 00:25:48
All in favor of 3G say aye aye. 00:25:51
Any opposed? 00:25:54
Two quick. 00:25:57
Just FYI items. 00:25:59
I know that everyone is antsy and waiting to hear back from Baker Tilly to see what our our new. 00:26:01
Financial projections and options are going to be. 00:26:08
When last I spoke with Paige, we are still looking at a first week of June. As far as the reports, I will remind everyone. 00:26:13
That. 00:26:20
The DLGF is currently picking apart House Bill One, and they've only had nine business days to start attacking it. 00:26:21
So the month of May is pretty much the DLG of figuring out how to implement that into our taxation systems to see how it's truly 00:26:27
going to affect counties. 00:26:32
Baker Tilly did say that we could look for our report the first week of June. 00:26:37
And I'll be following up with her again probably within the next week, just to make sure we're still on that timeline and to see 00:26:41
when she could. 00:26:44
Schedule a presentation for the Council. 00:26:48
So there's that just kind of as a reminder. That's where we're at right now. Just remember. 00:26:51
They can't give us projections without rules. 00:26:55
And the DLJ office who provides us the rules. 00:26:58
Additionally, I know that there was some concern about. 00:27:01
Property tax. 00:27:06
Fuels and the current form elevens that went out. 00:27:07
Seems county wide due to the. 00:27:11
New state rules and assessment when it comes to property and there were, I know of at least two, maybe 3 neighborhoods at the 00:27:14
assessor's office said was assessed incorrectly and that they are reworking them and they'll be sending out. 00:27:19
Updated form elevens, but in the meantime. 00:27:25
Anyone who has? 00:27:28
Constituents asking about their assessments. 00:27:29
And how to? 00:27:32
Appeal the process or get it corrected, or even just find out how it was based. 00:27:34
I know that the commissioners website has a link to the appeals process. I know that the form 11. 00:27:40
Had any field form with it alone with. 00:27:44
Instructions on how to file. 00:27:48
And then you can go to the assessor's website and find it as well, or you can go in person and talk to the lovely staff down in 00:27:50
the assessor's office. But there are multiple ways. 00:27:54
To appeal your assessment. 00:27:58
Or to just at least ask on how that happened. That's June 15th. June 15th is the deadline. 00:27:59
Will these new assessments come out before June 15th? I have no idea. That would be a question for Mr. Watson. 00:28:05
I believe they're attempting to. 00:28:11
I know that as soon as the. 00:28:13
Issues were discovered. They immediately started reworking. Were they high or low? 00:28:17
Oh, they were too high. 00:28:22
I have. I actually have a staffer. 00:28:24
I have a staffer who. 00:28:27
Is in one of those neighborhoods and her assessment increased by $100,000. 00:28:28
And it was it. It's it, it basically. 00:28:34
Doubled the value of her home. 00:28:37
So. 00:28:39
There are, there's a lot of rework and happening down there and they are, they're very upfront about it and they're happy to 00:28:40
explain things. So if you have constituents with questions, direct them. 00:28:45
To the assessor's website, commissioner's website, or to the assessor's office themselves. 00:28:50
I think what I think there's some confusion as well that needs to be explained and that is. 00:28:54
That those are. 00:29:00
New assessment values are from next year's. 00:29:02
I believe it explains it in the letter that it is 25 K 26 taxes. 00:29:06
And it is not the tax bill that you received in the. 00:29:12
April The other thing that people I think don't understand and what I've been trying to explain to people is that. 00:29:15
Just because the value of. 00:29:24
Carl may have gone up 15%. 00:29:27
That doesn't mean the county gets a 15% increase. 00:29:30
No, absolutely not. I wish that you'd great. 00:29:35
Yes, because. 00:29:37
Max that. 00:29:40
We I mean. 00:29:42
In the last few years has been set at 4%, so. 00:29:43
I I think there's a lot of confusion about why doesn't the county have enough taxes. Look at the values keep going up and up and 00:29:49
up. Well, the county is not responsible for setting how your property is assessed if they have questions about that. 00:29:55
It's there. There are limits on the amount. 00:30:06
Of the leverage that we can receive in and that should cause your rate to go down that's that's what I that was my next point you 00:30:11
want to see him really get upset till. 00:30:15
Tax rate actually went down. 00:30:20
And they won't not like that either. 00:30:22
Yeah. So anyways, there's a lot of, there's a lot of miss. 00:30:25
Information. 00:30:31
Out there I think or non information that people. 00:30:32
Need to be aware I was just asked Sabrina the appeals process, you know, and and and the other thing is, is that you should look 00:30:36
at the amount of taxes that are coming to the county versus the schools and the fire. 00:30:43
Nobody does that. I know I wish they did, but they don't. We're back to what I'm trying to tell people and if they're watching I I 00:30:50
want people to understand that. 00:30:54
We get a very small percentage of the total taxes that are being paid. Indiana Gateway will show you exactly where every single 00:30:59
tax dollar goes. So again, to the people watching, if you have questions about where your tax monies go, go look at Indiana 00:31:03
Gateway and look up Floyd County. 00:31:08
You will see that. 00:31:13
Right around 80% gets split between New Albany City and our school system. 00:31:15
So that is the two largest taxing district recipients in our county. 00:31:20
So if you have questions, go look. If you have questions, call me. I'm happy to walk you through where all of your tax dollars go 00:31:25
in this county. 00:31:28
You got the big screen. 00:31:31
I do have the big screen, I have spreadsheets and everything. 00:31:33
Any other questions guys? 00:31:37
Sorry, it's OK. 00:31:41
Item 8 is the ordinance for transfers. 00:31:42
That's right. 00:31:45
I moved to approve item 8 as published. 00:31:47
2nd we have a motion in a second. 00:31:50
For the transfers, any discussion? 00:31:52
All in favor say aye aye. 00:31:57
Imposed that carries. 00:31:59
Mr. Brand, you have any? 00:32:03
Committee reports or anything to add this evening? 00:32:05
No, sorry, I don't. 00:32:08
No. 00:32:10
I went to. 00:32:13
I think it's called outside the court. 00:32:14
Breakfast, meeting up and. 00:32:17
Judge Reader put on with them. 00:32:18
State Supreme Court. 00:32:20
Justice. It's a good event. 00:32:23
It's amazing what the courts are doing. 00:32:25
Working with inmates and stuff, getting them back into the public. 00:32:28
A lot of things going on. 00:32:32
I did go there and another just just. 00:32:34
Observation not being punished because I don't like technology. 00:32:37
Much green is the darkest. 00:32:41
And I'm glad I got paper. I'll just say it. 00:32:44
Mr. Sargenson. 00:32:49
I actually did have a couple questions at the risk of of. 00:32:51
Finding my fellow Councilman. 00:32:53
Talking too much. No, Tony and I had the conversation again. Just two quick questions, Daniel in this. The first one might be a 00:32:55
little premature, but. 00:32:59
Once we get a report out from Baker Tilly, do we have plans for a work session following that? Probably several. OK. 00:33:03
My second question too is, as a new person, as it relates to all of the backfill requests that we get, is that something that we 00:33:11
need? 00:33:17
To is everybody OK if we if we just get an e-mail saying this is going to be backfilled and not? 00:33:22
Both on the back hill. 00:33:28
Only only vote on it. 00:33:31
Right, still still a hiring freeze for new positions, but not. 00:33:34
Are we OK with that? Yeah. 00:33:40
Yeah, we can do that at the. 00:33:45
We can do at the next meeting, but. 00:33:47
Will just add that to the agenda. Thank you for bringing that up. OK. 00:33:49
Tony, Tony, I'm done. Just one last thing. 00:33:55
RFP or bonds will hit the market tomorrow for. 00:34:01
Financing request. 00:34:06
Request, yeah. 00:34:08
The AIC bill. The AIC. 00:34:09
Conference. It's one in May, right? 00:34:13
There's a June 21st state called Council Conference. 00:34:16
That is put on by AIC. There is not one in May. OK, there's A at this time. 00:34:21
President, that's the best. 00:34:28
There's one in Madison I think Thursday. 00:34:30
Yeah, what are you talking about in Madison? 00:34:33
There's an. 00:34:35
We went. 00:34:37
A couple years ago, Denise, Alexis, I remember. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't have Monday. 00:34:38
On my socket or from AIC at all? Did you receive an e-mail e-mail? 00:34:44
Anytime they send one out for council or commissioners or for AIC as a. 00:34:52
Whole I always forward it to you all. 00:34:57
So AIC puts on 2/2 conferences each year. That is for everyone. Your legislative conference in February, which I attended. 00:35:00
And then your fall conference, which usually hits about August, September, which is again for everyone and that's just kind of 00:35:09
it's a four day. 00:35:13
Classes, training, networking, figuring out what other counties are doing and how they're addressing things. Event. There is a 00:35:17
state called conference for council and their auditors to attend and that is June 21st of this year. 00:35:24
Mr. Bagshaw and Mr. Short have both signed up to go to that. 00:35:31
At this point I did notify everyone about that I will be attending as well. I'm sorry you'd like to sign up for that. I will look 00:35:34
and make sure. 00:35:39
Those rooms go really fast. 00:35:44
So whether or not they still have rooms available, you can register up until the day before. But as far as finding somewhere to 00:35:46
stay up in Carmel, that's another question. 00:35:50
But I'll see if any of the room blocks are available if you're still interested. 00:35:55
I'm happy to register. 00:35:58
I think this one's going to be really, really important. It's the only reason I'm going. I don't like going to conference and I 00:36:01
don't normally go to the Council 1, but I'm going this year. 00:36:05
Well, I would. Can you send me that e-mail again? I'll get you registered tomorrow, OK? 00:36:09
OK to search a cost. 00:36:14
Yes, ma'am. And it's because it's a state called conference. It is covered by the general fund. OK. So yeah, I would, I would be 00:36:17
interested in doing that. I think it's important. 00:36:21
I will go ahead and get you registered tomorrow. 00:36:26
Does anybody else want to take me up on that? 00:36:28
I'm out of the country. 00:36:32
I understand that we've talked about this. 00:36:33
OK, well I'll get you set up tomorrow and I'll send you the e-mail confirmations. 00:36:36
Thank you. Any other questions? 00:36:40
Anybody else from the public would like to speak before we adjourn for the evening? 00:36:45
Seeing none, I will entertain a motion to adjourn. I make a motion to adjourn. 00:36:49
Second, all in favor, Aye, we are adjourned. 00:36:54