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We will call the Floyd County Council meeting to order for Tuesday, February 11th. Please stand for the budget of Allegiance. 00:00:04
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To the Republic for which it stands. 00:00:17
Nation and God. 00:00:20
Thank you. Let the record show that we have a full quorum tonight. Mr. Bagshaw, would you lead us in the prayer, please? Let's 00:00:27
pray. 00:00:30
Oh Lord, we thank you today, another day. We thank you for the snow we know. 00:00:34
We understand that you you know what the Earth needs. 00:00:39
We thank you for keeping people safe today, we all, and we're always grateful for freedom and liberty that our country affords. 00:00:42
That we can meet an open meeting like this without fear of retribution. 00:00:49
Lord, please give us the wisdom and the knowledge to make prudent choices on behalf of the county today. 00:00:54
Or please be with our first responders. 00:00:59
And keep them safe as they keep us safe. Be with our. 00:01:03
Sailors, airmen and. 00:01:07
Marines and Army today and keep them safe as they defend freedom around the world. 00:01:08
And all these things we ask in your name, Amen. 00:01:14
Thank you. Before we move on to the acceptance of the agenda, there are a couple. 00:01:17
Changes. 00:01:21
A Judge Granger. 00:01:23
Would like to table hers. 00:01:26
Umm, new business 1. 00:01:29
And. 00:01:31
There was talk over e-mail of tabling 8C. 00:01:32
Until we speak with Baker Tilly. 00:01:36
And the third thing is Mr. Timbery's here to speak to us. 00:01:39
We're gonna put him on at the very beginning so he can hit the road. 00:01:43
So. 00:01:47
If we have a motion. 00:01:49
With those changes. 00:01:51
I I do not want to. 00:01:54
Completely table everything. 00:01:56
For the public safety available, I think we should. 00:01:59
Appropriate the amount that we need. 00:02:04
I don't think we've. 00:02:07
Advertised for. 00:02:10
So you would all have to. 00:02:14
Do we have an appropriation to pay the public? 00:02:23
Sorry, check. 00:02:28
Have to be happy. 00:02:29
Go ahead and pay the contracts. 00:02:31
No, we have not done any appropriations. However, we pay in the contracts. 00:02:34
We're we're going to appropriate and appropriate next week. 00:02:41
OK. 00:03:01
Oh sure, is this one. 00:03:03
It's green. 00:03:06
Appropriations and public safety that fund nor have there been any advertised. 00:03:09
OK. 00:03:13
Yeah, OK, OK. 00:03:18
Fair. 00:03:20
Yeah, I guess I'm. 00:03:22
We'd be happy to do a generic appropriation. 00:03:25
Advertisement. 00:03:28
For next month, but outside of that. 00:03:30
You don't know what these. 00:03:33
Yeah, I think we need. 00:03:39
I think we need to have an appropriation for the contracts that we're paying. 00:03:41
OK, that's my unless. Unless is there something that I'm missing? 00:03:49
OK, Nope. I think you're. 00:03:54
Right on. 00:03:56
That's at least what we have to do. 00:03:58
Yeah, I couldn't understand why we hadn't. 00:04:05
Done that, but. 00:04:08
OK. 00:04:10
Fame there. 00:04:12
So I'm I'm good. 00:04:15
Is that is that a motion to approve the agenda with those changes? Yes. OK. Second, we have a motion to 2nd for approval of 00:04:17
tonight's agenda with. 00:04:21
Changes that were noted. 00:04:26
Any discussion? 00:04:28
All in favor say aye aye. 00:04:29
Any opposed? 00:04:32
You're up, Mr. Barry. 00:04:34
I'm sorry, is there anybody from the public that wish? 00:04:38
Would like to speak before we get started. 00:04:40
You're still up. Go ahead. 00:04:43
Thank you, Mr. President, members of the Council. 00:04:47
Tim Berry with Crow. 00:04:50
A couple of things. 00:04:53
I'm here first. 00:04:55
On behalf of. 00:04:57
Some good news. 00:04:59
In November of this year, we received a call from S&P. 00:05:01
Wanting to review the bond rating for the county. 00:05:07
And on short notice. 00:05:10
At the most inopportune time when property tax collections are taking place. 00:05:13
We were able to pull together a meeting. 00:05:20
And I want to thank Commissioner Al Kanable, Councilmember Danny Short. 00:05:22
Don Blop. 00:05:27
Diana Topping. 00:05:29
And we had a conversation with SP in late November. 00:05:31
They came back at the end of January to affirm. 00:05:35
Floyd County's rating. 00:05:40
As an A and to affirm that on a stable basis. 00:05:42
Said that the economic outlook in Floyd County remains strong. 00:05:47
The actions that the Council. 00:05:53
Has made. 00:05:56
To stabilize live income and lit revenues. 00:05:57
They commended. 00:06:01
And and said that your outlook? 00:06:02
Looked good. 00:06:06
Moving forward and. 00:06:07
Maintain that a stable rating. 00:06:09
On the. 00:06:12
Bonds that were issued in 2021. 00:06:14
For Nova. 00:06:17
So, umm. 00:06:18
Tim, can I ask a question? Was it, did we have an A rating already? OK. So they maintain the rating. Yes, they maintain the 00:06:19
rating. 00:06:23
And during times like this, you know with. 00:06:27
Some economic instability going on, uncertainties with revenues in many communities, certainly. 00:06:32
The way Indiana tracks. 00:06:41
Their audit and their financials on a cash basis instead of. 00:06:44
On an accrual basis. 00:06:51
Maintaining an A stable rating is very good. 00:06:53
Thank you. Now that is on your. 00:06:57
Backed bonds. 00:07:00
Your local income tax bonds. 00:07:02
So wanted to provide that and also wanted to thank the extra efforts. 00:07:04
Diana went into to. 00:07:11
It was mostly Diana to get backup documentation and information to provide to them. 00:07:14
And to affirm that and so. 00:07:22
I want to thank her and her staff. 00:07:25
For all of their efforts to to get that accomplished on behalf of the county. 00:07:27
Also here tonight. 00:07:33
We had a conversation. 00:07:36
Last Friday. 00:07:38
With regards to the timing of the purchase of the Health Department building. 00:07:39
We would anticipate coming back to you at your March meeting with bond parameters. 00:07:45
And I just wanted to. 00:07:52
Introduce that concept here tonight so that everything was prepared for at that time. 00:07:55
We anticipate or we understand the purchase of the building at approximately $2.2 million. 00:08:02
There is some cash available to take care of. 00:08:10
Remodeling and renovation costs. 00:08:16
That will be utilized for that. 00:08:19
And there is a little bit that we would anticipate in the bond resolution to include. 00:08:22
Over and above that. 00:08:28
For renovation and cost of issuance. 00:08:30
We're looking to give the county flexibility as you work through what your revenues are and reallocate expenditures. 00:08:33
Some flexibility on repayment of that. 00:08:44
We're looking at a five year. 00:08:47
Band with some options available to the county to either prepaid early if you were in position to do that. 00:08:49
Um, to. 00:09:00
Pay interest only through the life of that ban and the option then ultimately if you chose to do so. 00:09:02
To take that out if you chose not to pay off the ban. 00:09:09
Either early or at the time of the. 00:09:14
Conclusion of that ban. 00:09:16
So that is what we would anticipate bringing back before you at next month's meeting or at the. 00:09:19
March meeting. 00:09:26
And just would entertain any questions that you may have or. 00:09:28
Ensure that that is consistent with what? 00:09:32
Thoughts are. 00:09:35
With regards to that prior to. 00:09:36
The bond resolution. 00:09:39
What, what kind of rate do you think we'll get on on a ban? 00:09:41
A5 year ban. 00:09:46
I can't tell you a rate at this point in time. I will tell you that interest rates are changing. 00:09:48
Your rates have been. 00:09:55
Fairly competitive. You've done some bands of recent note. 00:09:56
Recently. 00:10:01
They've been all fairly competitive along those lines. 00:10:02
You've had in the past. 00:10:07
A lot of interest. 00:10:09
In your bonds or in your band? 00:10:11
Which has decreased your cost and your interest costs. 00:10:14
Accordingly. 00:10:19
And can you explain to us again why we would do a ban versus going ahead and bonding this right off the bat? 00:10:23
To provide you some flexibility. 00:10:32
If you remember. 00:10:35
The jail originally, yeah, but there was a lot of work to be done on the jail. So that's the reason why I think we did the. But 00:10:38
yet ultimately you chose to utilize cash and to pay that off without taking out the long-term bond. 00:10:45
I think some thinking has been based upon feedback that we've received. 00:10:54
That you may want to be in that same position again. 00:10:59
On this project. 00:11:03
And so that would be the advantage of doing the ban. 00:11:06
Over a short term to provide you the most flexibility. 00:11:10
To pay that off without penalty. 00:11:14
And to pay that off early. 00:11:17
But certainly. 00:11:20
We can look at it. 00:11:22
In multiple ways. 00:11:24
Also gives us flexibility. 00:11:27
To let other projects. 00:11:29
Catch up. Umm. 00:11:31
And possibly bond together. 00:11:33
That is correct. 00:11:35
Now that. 00:11:38
It's just. 00:11:40
It's yes. It's that word flexibility. It gives us options. 00:11:42
Not saying that it won't go to a bond. 00:11:47
That's I would imagine the interest rates on the band are. 00:11:49
More than interest rate on the bot. 00:11:56
Would be. 00:11:58
I guess that's where maybe I was thinking coming from is that if you're looking at a long term ban or bond, bond. 00:12:00
Yeah, if you're looking at a long term, yes. 00:12:07
They are a little bit, but not that much different. 00:12:11
Because of the interest rate environment that we are in. 00:12:14
Umm, and it all depends on on structuring as well. 00:12:18
If you are looking to only pay interest. 00:12:25
Versus to pay some principal and interest during the life of the bank. 00:12:28
OK. 00:12:34
I mean. 00:12:38
I'm I'm kind of wanting to look at both banding and bonding. 00:12:41
I kind of do want to look at both options. 00:12:46
Does that make sense to everybody? 00:12:49
Yeah, and that's kind of why we lifted. 00:12:51
OK with that option. 00:12:53
I will say and I have not had a chance to review closely, so I want to be able to do that and I don't want to speak incorrectly. 00:12:56
But I know there were some amendments to Senate Bill 1 today. 00:13:06
That might impact. 00:13:11
General obligation bonds. 00:13:16
So I want to review that before I advise what What's the possible change that could have happened? I want to advise first. I want 00:13:19
to review an advice first. 00:13:23
There's lots. There's a lot going on. I know there's a lot going on. 00:13:28
Good news is they didn't pull out. 00:13:32
Much of what was there impacting the amount of revenue that you would be able to? 00:13:35
Realize. 00:13:40
So the revenue hit to local governments will not be as severe. 00:13:42
As initially. 00:13:47
Provided it got chopped pretty good today. 00:13:48
Amendment amendments hit pretty hard. 00:13:51
So. 00:13:54
And that's why I want to look at all those amendments. 00:13:56
To review that. 00:14:00
But you will be presenting both a band and a bond situation. 00:14:01
You will be approving maximum parameters. 00:14:05
So it's going to be on a band. 00:14:10
Regardless of whether we bonded or not until the projects. 00:14:12
Ready to bond? 00:14:16
But this? 00:14:19
We'll have time to figure out. 00:14:21
If we if we lump together, if we go straight. 00:14:24
Or if we pay off. 00:14:27
So we're, we're, we've already made the decision today. 00:14:28
No. 00:14:31
We still have to. 00:14:32
But you're going to be on a band for a while before. 00:14:35
Bonds are issued so. 00:14:39
We have to be on a band to complete the purchase. 00:14:41
I think the question was would you issue up? 00:14:45
Ban or a bond immediately. Yes, yes and I think the question. 00:14:47
And that's where I was asking what the preference of was the council and I thought I heard. 00:14:52
A ban at this point in time. 00:14:57
You could always do a five year bond or A5 year ban. 00:15:02
Or if you're looking to extend that out. 00:15:08
Longer term, that the flexibility in the band gives you the option to convert. 00:15:12
It gives you the option to pay interest only. 00:15:17
It gives the option to make payments or makes. 00:15:19
I think we need that right now until we figure out. 00:15:22
Some other things going on downtown. 00:15:26
I think it gives you the flexibility for all projects in the future. It also gives you the flexibility to better understand. 00:15:31
The impact of the reallocation of the lit dollars into the budget. 00:15:38
And what impact that will do to? 00:15:45
Potentially provide you dollars. 00:15:49
I've done some work and it and it appears to me that. 00:15:52
If we do. 00:15:56
A 25 year ban that. 00:15:58
The health department has the money to pay for at least. 00:16:01
Half of that. 00:16:06
Now depends on what happens in the General Assembly, or does depend on what happens. 00:16:07
It really does. So there is a lot. 00:16:12
Of based on information that we received from legal counsel. 00:16:16
Dollars are limited at. 00:16:22
As to what can be spent from health department funds? 00:16:24
Based upon the source there is, yes, it's very limited. It's $87,000. 00:16:28
Is what they have to spend on an annual basis. 00:16:33
We know those numbers. 00:16:36
So if you do. 00:16:38
Long term. 00:16:39
25 year. 00:16:41
Bond at. 00:16:43
6%, which I would think you could get back. 00:16:45
A much better rate than that. 00:16:48
But it's $187,000, so they can pay nearly half of. 00:16:50
That. 00:16:56
Based on the current situation. 00:16:58
Now, is that situation going to continue? 00:17:00
I don't know. 00:17:03
That's why I'm looking at. 00:17:04
A bond versus a band because. 00:17:07
I think they have the opportunity to pay well. We discussed a lot of this. 00:17:10
Repayment that does not change repayment. 00:17:14
But we just, we discussed a lot of the same options when we were talking about. 00:17:17
The jail on how we wanted to proceed and. 00:17:20
You know. 00:17:23
If you put a 25 year bond on that. 00:17:24
It's doable, but. 00:17:27
1215 years you're. 00:17:30
You're gonna redo that building in some form or fashion. It may not cost as much as it does now. 00:17:32
But there's going to be upkeep and. 00:17:36
Rehab and new equipment and. 00:17:39
Whatever, uh. 00:17:41
So. 00:17:43
And while you would be potentially using other funds to make that payment. 00:17:45
You would be pledging in your bond documents. 00:17:51
The general obligation of the county. 00:17:56
Sure, sure, I understand. 00:17:58
Understand that. 00:18:00
OK. 00:18:05
I don't. 00:18:07
Is everybody on board with the band versus upon? 00:18:09
Listen, looking back, I voted. 00:18:12
To pay off the jail. 00:18:15
I'm not sure I would make that tank both. 00:18:17
Again. 00:18:19
So I'll just say that. 00:18:20
So to use that. 00:18:23
Analogy. Or use that. 00:18:25
History is I don't, I don't know. 00:18:27
I I guess my point would be that. 00:18:31
This at least offers us the flexibility because there are still a lot of unknowns. 00:18:33
Yeah, right. 00:18:38
And what I really don't want to get into is we're in a situation where we're locked into something and then we have to deal with 00:18:39
that something else comes along. This gives us the flexibility to be able to deal with things as they come along. OK, a little 00:18:45
more. I do like the flexibility of it. I mean, I think we could get a bond. 00:18:50
That would allow us to pay it off. 00:18:56
Five in five years I think we could. 00:18:59
I think we could. 00:19:03
Right. 00:19:04
An early payment bond. 00:19:06
That would cost you. 00:19:09
If you were to do that. 00:19:11
It costs for the flexibility of that. Yeah, yes. So OK, OK, enough said. If band is the way we everyone thinks we should go. 00:19:13
Are you going to send more information to us before the March? 00:19:22
You will getting or with the documents, the legal documents that will have all of the maximum parameters and we'll have some 00:19:28
documentation attached to that. You might have anything else for Mr. Barry. 00:19:33
Thank you very much. 00:19:39
Thank you. 00:19:40
Thank you. 00:19:42
Point of order, Mr. Chairman. We didn't approve minutes. 00:19:44
You are correct. 00:19:47
Accept the minutes. 00:19:50
1/14/24. 00:19:52
25 organizational meeting minutes. 00:19:54
And the 1142025 meeting minutes. 00:19:56
2nd, we have a motion and 2nd for approval of those minutes. Any discussion on those? 00:20:00
All in favor say aye aye. 00:20:06
I abstain. 00:20:08
Understood. 00:20:11
That passes. Thank you for bringing that up. 00:20:12
Miss Diana Topping for. 00:20:16
Yes. 00:20:21
So I'm covering for Charlotte Bass this evening. 00:20:23
You have. 00:20:26
Additional appropriations. 00:20:29
That are being requested. So out of the 8906 fund she's requesting $2249.82 and that is to cover some. 00:20:31
Increased costs and supplies. 00:20:40
Motion to approve 2A. 00:20:45
Second, as advertised, we have a motion a second for 2A. Any discussion? 00:20:47
All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:20:52
That carries. 00:20:55
And we so in her 9150 fund. 00:20:57
Because that fund covers the cost for her employee that gets paid out of there. It covers the entire cost, including. 00:21:01
The employers portion of health insurance, so she's requesting an additional appropriation of $9000 in her health insurance line 00:21:08
in that fund. 00:21:11
Motion to approve to be as advertised. 00:21:16
2nd we have a motion and a second for 2B. 00:21:19
Any discussion or questions? 00:21:21
All in favor say aye. 00:21:24
Aye, any opposed? 00:21:26
That carries two seed. 00:21:27
9273 or an additional request for $3318.36. This is just to cover some contractual employee costs. 00:21:29
Move to approve to see. 00:21:38
Second motion and a second for to see any discussion. 00:21:40
All in favor say aye. Opposed. 00:21:46
That carries. 00:21:49
2D2 D is out of the 1161. It's an additional appropriation. These are, this is these are monies that are a commitment towards the 00:21:51
cost of the new building. So it's $72,671.90. So this is an additional appropriation, moving those funds into a line so they can 00:21:57
actually be spent towards do you know what that's for? 00:22:03
I'm sorry, you know what it's for. 00:22:09
Specifically an Albany building quite literally listed as commitment towards the cost of the new building. I believe this is the 00:22:11
amount that they are allowed to contribute from the 1161 towards. 00:22:16
Potential renovations and purchase of that new building. 00:22:21
And it has to be appropriated so that it can be utilized. 00:22:25
She's kind of getting ahead of the game. 00:22:28
She's being prepared and pledging it this year. 00:22:29
OK, motion to approve. 00:22:34
2D as advertising. 00:22:37
Second, have a motion and a second for 2D. Any further discussion? 00:22:39
All in favor say aye. 00:22:44
Any opposed? 00:22:46
Carries. 00:22:48
Stan. 00:22:51
This is the follow up for the appropriations for. 00:22:58
Engineering study to have the water pipes moved over the IT room. 00:23:02
This is the this third month in a row. 00:23:11
I believe it is December, January and February. 00:23:13
We have a motion. We do have a. 00:23:19
Portion of the engineering study that's been provided to the sheriff. 00:23:21
He's going to review the options. Take a look at it. 00:23:25
I think he's go his plans are discussed with the commissioners to see if it's a viable plan. 00:23:28
Once they decide on which play, if it is a viable plan, they're going to submit. 00:23:33
Back to Kurt. 00:23:38
Her garlic and they're going to send out the RFP's to solicit. 00:23:40
The bidding process so. 00:23:45
Do we have a motion for 3A? 00:23:50
Is this part of the? 00:23:54
I'll make them up. I'll make a motion so we can discuss. Motion to approve 3A. 00:23:57
Second motion is second. Go ahead, Sam. Is this part of the? 00:24:02
50,000 that was appropriated back. 00:24:05
Yeah, it was. This was the 50,000 that we never got obligated. So we came back in January, had it reappropriated so that we can 00:24:08
move forward with the study. 00:24:13
So yes, it is and and we worked with the. 00:24:18
Previous building. 00:24:22
Authority Commissioner. 00:24:25
To try to. 00:24:27
Determine a cost. Chuck advised that it was going to run at least 50,000. 00:24:28
We did. We have been working with Donnie. Donnie Hair. 00:24:32
And he has found a couple of options with engineers who could provide us. 00:24:36
Exactly what we need with the study itself to send out solicit RFPs so. 00:24:41
Heading obviously half the price. 00:24:46
The actual cost? 00:24:51
That we've incurred so far is about 20 to 5 I believe. So this is the 25 is just to encompass any additional costs that may. 00:24:53
Hit that we we didn't originally account for. 00:25:03
So. 00:25:06
But Stan, this is just the study. This is not the actual work. This is just the engineering study. 00:25:08
And there's no working drawing or specifications for $25,000. 00:25:14
Or three pipes. I just don't understand that. I mean. 00:25:18
Chairman, I've talked about that many times. 00:25:22
Yeah, I don't understand. Maybe I'm just ignorant. I'm not an engineer, but that seems like a. 00:25:25
To say, yeah, look up and say, yeah, you can't move those three times, it's not necessary. 00:25:30
Not necessarily the pipes, Mr. Banks. So it's it's the equipment that sits under the pipes. It's a couple $1,000,000 worth of 00:25:34
equipment. So we just moving 3 pipes. 00:25:39
Equipment, uh. 00:25:44
Is and I've said numerous times, Hussey Mechanical was. 00:25:45
That building for decades. 00:25:52
And they probably have engineers on staff. 00:25:54
That would move three pipes. 00:25:57
I don't understand. 00:25:59
Building authorities. 00:26:00
Dishonest, but. 00:26:02
And we all recognize it could be a disaster if all that. 00:26:04
IT equipment gets water on. It's an absolute disaster. We understand that clearly this. 00:26:08
But umm. 00:26:13
And. 00:26:17
I'm not a I won't use Diana's favorite saying about myself, but I just I don't understand why it just have a study to say Yeah, 00:26:18
you need. 00:26:22
Well, I can tell you that. 00:26:27
We need to move the pipes. 00:26:31
For $25,000, I'd like to think we got working drawings with specifications of how it's going to be done. 00:26:32
So now they're going to come back with another. 00:26:39
Be for. 00:26:41
Working drawings and specifications, I think, I think the plan is, if I understood you correctly, was to take the information that 00:26:43
you have and be able to put out an RFP based off that. 00:26:48
Yes, OK. 00:26:53
Show garage specifications. 00:26:55
Yes. 00:26:58
Well, this is the issue. 00:27:00
Brought up last time, I just kind of wondered with the commissary funds, the amount of. 00:27:01
Funds they have available there. 00:27:06
The Sheriff's Department couldn't pick this up. 00:27:08
At least this portion of it. 00:27:11
And we got. 00:27:13
A partial listing of some of those. 00:27:14
Revenues, expenses, we didn't get the full one first. 00:27:17
Yes, you're all just not going to give it to us even though we asked nicely. 00:27:21
Not going to give it to us. 00:27:25
Yes. No. 00:27:27
I'm asking you to stand. 00:27:29
What exactly? I sent the e-mail, I followed up with you and I said. 00:27:30
The same listing that we got a year ago. 00:27:34
All the credit card detail and all that because you can't tell. 00:27:37
What these sixteen $17,000 credit card spends is our per month. 00:27:40
There's no detail to it. 00:27:45
You're only going to. You just decide you're not going to give it to us. 00:27:46
I did not make that decision. Well, I've asked for it and there was no response. 00:27:50
So that's a number. 00:27:54
We don't have in our. 00:27:56
Can you send me last year's and I'll be glad that we're. 00:27:59
I sent it. It's in the. It's in the listing I forwarded from last year. I took the exact e-mail from the. 00:28:02
Year with that information. 00:28:08
There's a breakdown of the detail of the credit card expenses you all provided to us. 00:28:10
I'll be glad. 00:28:15
I think I sent you everything that we were supposed to send. 00:28:17
No, you didn't. OK. 00:28:21
Is there any further discussion here? We're going to. 00:28:27
We good. 00:28:31
All right, we have a motion and a second for. 00:28:33
3/8. 00:28:36
All in favor say aye. 00:28:37
Aye aye, opposed. 00:28:39
That carries. 00:28:42
Thanks. Thank you. 00:28:43
Anybody here for Kent? 00:28:46
Yes, Sir. Mr. President, Tammy called today and asked if I would. 00:28:47
Represent a. 00:28:51
For a they are appropriating 2024 funds to 2025. 00:28:53
So, umm. 00:28:59
With that in mind, I'd move that for a be approved. 00:29:01
Tag it motion a second for 4A. 00:29:04
Any discussion? 00:29:07
All in favor say aye. 00:29:10
Aye, any opposed? 00:29:12
That carries. 00:29:14
Your rights? 00:29:17
Community Corrections received a 8 odd grant. 00:29:26
I'm asking the money be appropriated so I can purchase drug test supplies. 00:29:28
Motion to Approve 5. 00:29:33
As sacrificed, I'll second. 00:29:35
Have motion a second for 5A any. 00:29:37
Questions for Darius. 00:29:39
All in favor say aye. 00:29:42
Aye, any opposed? 00:29:44
That carries. 00:29:46
Community Corrections is asking to move drug testing supply money to professional services. 00:29:48
A transfer of money. 00:29:53
This is an ideal. 00:29:54
Motion to approve 5B. 00:29:58
Sure, have a motion and 2nd for 5B. 00:30:00
Any discussion? 00:30:03
All in favor say aye aye. 00:30:05
Any opposed? 00:30:08
That carries. Thank you. Thanks. 00:30:09
Mr. Nick Creevy. 00:30:11
Model through this again. 00:30:17
So the first one is a 1135 fund. 00:30:19
This is a reappropriation. 00:30:23
Of 97,500 this might not encumbered last year. 00:30:25
This is for bridge 27. 00:30:29
The engineering. 00:30:32
For that. 00:30:34
We hope to use that to apply for some grant funds later this year. 00:30:35
Place that bridge. 00:30:40
Where is bridge 27? 00:30:43
It's out West of Greenville or Georgetown. 00:30:46
I can't. I can't you know what wrote a trial. I think it's. 00:30:53
But I'd have to. 00:30:57
You're not. I'm not familiar with all the numbers yet other than bridge 51. 00:31:01
Bridge 51 has its own Facebook page now. That's nice. 00:31:12
This this works. 00:31:15
This was one of the bridges set for. 00:31:17
Replacement in the annual bridge inspection. 00:31:19
I was just curious. 00:31:24
I'll look into it now. 00:31:31
So did you say there's a grant? This is for a matching grant. 00:31:32
Community Crossings grant. 00:31:40
Is that in jeopardy at all? The community crossings grant stuff. 00:31:42
With all the legislation. 00:31:46
Yeah, I don't know what they're short answer is yes, it's all these. That's what I find it will. 00:31:49
From what I hear, probably not go away but be revised. 00:31:56
You know, so it's been a good program for us. We. 00:32:01
Yeah, the county has Utah. 00:32:03
It every year, in fact, yeah. 00:32:05
Yeah, I mean. 00:32:07
And and and so I guess my. 00:32:09
Follow up question then is. 00:32:12
Do you go ahead with this? No. 00:32:14
The bridge needs to be replaced. We need to do. 00:32:16
But we're gonna have to. 00:32:20
We may have come up with. 00:32:21
All the money, you know. 00:32:23
This this this portion. 00:32:24
It's we're paying locally for that. 00:32:27
It's the implementation that we're seeking. 00:32:31
Yeah, this, this is the. 00:32:34
Initial, umm. 00:32:35
Work that has to be done before. 00:32:36
And then we go. 00:32:38
Tried to get the grant forth. 00:32:39
OK, OK. 00:32:41
Moved to approve. 6A is advertised. 00:32:44
We got into discussion before that, sorry. Yeah. So we have a motion. Is there a second? 00:32:46
Oh, second. 00:32:53
We have a motion a second for 6A. Any further discussion? 00:32:54
All in favor say aye. Any opposed? 00:32:58
That carries. 00:33:02
B is an appropriation from 1173. This is also. 00:33:04
Matching Grant. 00:33:12
This is for our awarded amount. 00:33:13
This is the local. 00:33:16
For that amount. 00:33:17
Oh, so this was already awarded? 00:33:18
While we we had the con. 00:33:20
We've been awarded by the state. We had the, we set the bids. We reopened those last week at the. 00:33:22
Contract. 00:33:29
Motion to approve 6B as advertised. Second motion and a second for 6B any. 00:33:31
Discussion. Hopefully they won't yank. 00:33:38
Get out of things that are only in progress. Yeah, I think anything they're going to do now would be. 00:33:41
Effect next year there. 00:33:46
All in favor, Are you ready? 00:33:47
Were you OK? All in favor of 6B? Say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:33:50
That one carries. 00:33:55
Item C is. 00:33:57
From Fund 1176. 00:33:59
This is for the salt water. 00:34:01
The work department recently. 00:34:04
And ordered 2000 tons. 00:34:07
Solitary punish. 00:34:09
Motion to approve 6C as advertised. Second motion a second for 6C. Any questions or discussion? How are we doing on our Sol? 00:34:11
I will have to check for what we just did. 00:34:21
Today and last night. 00:34:24
But we we have good stores. 00:34:26
Now this is for delivery for. 00:34:28
The next order that we we came into this. 00:34:32
Winter in really good shape and we have a minimum that we need. 00:34:35
And purchase to get the good rate so. 00:34:38
No that I was just curious where we stand. 00:34:40
Any further discussion? 00:34:44
All in favor of 6C say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:34:46
That carries. 00:34:50
D item D is from. 00:34:53
9112 This is a reimbursement. 00:34:55
For. 00:34:58
A developer fee. 00:34:59
Traffic impact study. 00:35:01
Project that. 00:35:03
Motion to approve 6D as advertised. 00:35:05
Second motion and a second for 60 Any questions or discussion? 00:35:08
All in favor say aye aye. 00:35:14
Any opposed? 00:35:16
That carries. 00:35:17
All right, Item E. 00:35:19
19124. 00:35:21
He said for several grants. 00:35:24
The Caesar Foundation or Grant Local. 00:35:27
Community Grant. 00:35:34
Indiana Economic Development Grant. 00:35:37
Total 400 and three 683. 00:35:40
50 So these are for projects that the regional community park and. 00:35:43
You make my move. 00:35:47
Motion to Approve 6. 00:35:51
E as advertised. 00:35:52
Motion and a second for 6E. 00:35:55
Any discussion? 00:35:57
I have a question. 00:35:58
Why is the park money going into? 00:36:00
The commissioners grant Why wouldn't you go into the parks? 00:36:05
It's for Nova Park, correct? 00:36:10
Oh, it's for Noah Park. 00:36:11
No, the Caesar Foundation Park Green. 00:36:13
Is for the Regional Park. 00:36:15
Regional market. 00:36:16
Oh, it's for the Regional Park. 00:36:17
OK. 00:36:20
Perfect, perfect. 00:36:22
Good answer. 00:36:25
All right, any further discussion? 00:36:27
All in favor 6 E say aye. 00:36:30
Aye, any opposed? 00:36:32
That carries. 00:36:34
Onto F. 00:36:35
Item F is from 9130. 00:36:38
So this is for Community and economic development projects 160. 00:36:44
1000 and the bridge with. 00:36:48
Right away. Rumors, man. 00:36:50
Underneath. 00:36:51
400. 00:36:53
The Community and economic development projects are grants for. 00:36:54
Rural transit. 00:36:59
Transit grant and IADC programming grant and the ready to. 00:37:00
.0 grand for the. 00:37:05
The editorial board. 00:37:07
Motion to Approve 6. 00:37:09
Second motion in the second for 6F any discussion? 00:37:12
All in favor say aye. 00:37:17
Aye. 00:37:19
Opposed. 00:37:20
Carries finally. 00:37:21
G is a joint resolution you should have. 00:37:24
Copy of the original. 00:37:27
This is. 00:37:32
For a joint resolution. 00:37:33
To transfer a parcel. 00:37:35
Property to. 00:37:37
The town of Georgetown. 00:37:38
Ready here from Georgetown is here. 00:37:40
Described it a little bit more. 00:37:43
Thank you, Councillor Jamie Randy Keener, Towel Manager, Town Georgetown SO. 00:37:47
The property in question is a small easement parcel located on Georgetown Lanesville Rd. 00:37:51
Between the railroad trestle and the first bridge you come to as you cross Georgetown until. 00:37:58
The town the last couple years have purchased all the. 00:38:03
Properties from. 00:38:07
The Georgetown softball field of Georgetown. 00:38:08
To Georgetown Lanes already, So this is the last property that we need to acquire all the land. 00:38:11
Within that space. 00:38:17
What we plan to do with it, some of it's going to be green space. 00:38:19
But we also wish to move Lois Lane from. 00:38:22
Going right along the road trestle. 00:38:26
And move it out so that fire trucks and school buses can get in and service. So not only the park, but the residents who live on 00:38:28
Wilson Whisperer. 00:38:31
Motion to approve 6G. 00:38:36
That's advertising. 00:38:39
2nd, we have a motion and a second for 6G. Any further questions or discussion? You said this was? 00:38:40
I heard you say easement and you said parcel, so is that? 00:38:47
How much property is involved with this? I'm just curious. 00:38:51
Parcel is. 00:38:58
Very small parcel, it's enough. 00:39:00
Available right away, right along the road. 00:39:02
Alley tracks. 00:39:05
All right, sort of talking to Edgar training. 00:39:09
That's why I was curious, because I didn't see anything. 00:39:11
Any further discussion? 00:39:18
All in favor of 6G say aye. 00:39:21
Aye, any opposed? 00:39:23
Nick, you've got a ways to go to get to Mr. Law on your. 00:39:27
He's got a skulls disease before. 00:39:33
Is it? Is it possible to get an update on bridge 51? 00:39:37
Tell us what you know. 00:39:44
So. 00:39:45
Bridge 51 continues to be closed. 00:39:46
Due to the dam failure. 00:39:49
And not the condition of the deck or anything else. This was privately owned dam. 00:39:52
We are in the process. 00:39:58
Acquiring that dam for the project. 00:39:59
The owner of the dam. 00:40:02
Did not agree with our appraisal. 00:40:04
Process. 00:40:08
When the failed, fail. 00:40:09
We continue that process now that is in the court they have. 00:40:11
Pointed appraisers. 00:40:16
And we're working through that. 00:40:18
Regulated process. 00:40:19
We do still anticipate that the right away. 00:40:21
Acquisition phase will be completed. 00:40:25
By the end of March, which will set the timeline for the construction, letting the. 00:40:27
Contract, uh. 00:40:33
For the. 00:40:34
September and SO started work. 00:40:37
Likely. 00:40:41
This year, early next year, we are trying to get. 00:40:43
That lighting date moved up. 00:40:46
But we're working with federal regulations as administrator with. 00:40:48
That so. 00:40:52
Kind of get that. 00:40:55
Do you have any hope that we're gonna be able to open the old bridge back up so. 00:40:56
The County Road department has. 00:41:01
Put some fill. 00:41:03
In our. 00:41:04
Engineering Consultant. 00:41:07
Wants to see. 00:41:09
The water. 00:41:11
Ways and then go back down South, they can see what the impact of that was before that they're willing to kind of sign off on 00:41:13
opening the bridge back up. We would like to be able to get the rail. 00:41:18
Up as well and open it fully. 00:41:23
There is an option that it might be reduced. 00:41:25
A reduced line opening if we cannot do that. 00:41:31
We are working on that. 00:41:35
Some of it will be dependent on. 00:41:36
Water level. 00:41:40
Agreeing with us and so our engineers can look at it. 00:41:43
And from what I understand, it's not the bridge, it's the approach to the bridge that's the problem. 00:41:47
So when the dam. 00:41:52
Around the damn like. 00:41:56
Failure. 00:41:57
It washed out some of the. 00:42:00
Approach the approach. 00:42:02
Yeah, the gravel and. 00:42:05
So I let the approach. 00:42:06
The engineers have looked at it. 00:42:11
Feel like the fill that we. 00:42:13
Put in there. 00:42:15
Should be sufficient to hold that together. 00:42:16
Would the Commissioners be prepared to put a weight limit on that bridge? 00:42:20
Or do they have our one already? 00:42:23
I, I, I can't speak to that right now. 00:42:27
I know that was brought up before. 00:42:31
Difficult to enforce. 00:42:37
And everybody understands that. 00:42:41
The new approach is going to be totally different, yeah. 00:42:43
There should be no curve there. Basically it'll be a straight shot over and. 00:42:45
Higher bridge. 00:42:49
So this bridge current existing bridge floods. The new bridge should be up and out of the floodplain. 00:42:51
One of the main reasons why we. 00:42:57
Needed to go to an emergency, not just. 00:42:59
Time, right? 00:43:03
So we we see a lot of. 00:43:05
People opining that. 00:43:07
They should have replaced that years ago and we all know it's been in the works for. 00:43:09
For years. For years so, and I will note that. 00:43:12
The N dot number for this project is a 2017 number. We we've approached them prior to that. So this has been working a long. 00:43:17
Time There's been a delay due to the environmental review. 00:43:24
That's what I think people don't understand. 00:43:30
Try to limit the. 00:43:34
Costco. 00:43:36
And buying a damaged dam. 00:43:37
Yeah. 00:43:39
All right. Thank you, Nick. 00:43:41
Thank you, Nick. 00:43:46
OK, so I have 3 items on the agenda tonight. The first item is an additional appropriation for our employee payout line. 00:43:52
We had originally passed a budget for 2025 that had a $25,000. 00:43:58
Appropriation in this line and that has been overextended at this point by $7755.20. 00:44:04
And there are a few additional employee payouts that are going to happen through the rest of the year. So for those of you that 00:44:12
are new. 00:44:15
Employee payout occurs. I know I'm pointing to you but. 00:44:19
You're new. 00:44:22
An employee payout occurs when an employee separates employment and they qualify for a payout on their sick time. 00:44:23
Vacation time depending on whether or not their grandfathered into that rule. 00:44:31
And. 00:44:35
Any personal time that they may have it. 00:44:38
Not been able to utilize. 00:44:40
Had. 00:44:43
There are restrictions in place for sick time. 00:44:44
Where you do have to be here for 20 years or more to get paid out 100% of 45 days of sick time. 00:44:48
Vacation time there are no restrictions, however you are supposed to only be allowed to carry. 00:44:54
One week over into the next year. 00:45:00
And if you are a newer employee? 00:45:03
Your payout is much more limited than if you are an older employee. We had an older employee separate employment at the beginning 00:45:06
of this year and they took a very. 00:45:10
Large. 00:45:14
Payout and because we are anticipating some additional payouts throughout the rest of this year, we do need to. 00:45:15
Go ahead and appropriate an additional 25,000 to this line so that we make up the current negative and still have some positive 00:45:21
there for the remainder of the year. 00:45:25
I don't know that I've ever actually seen this line completely. 00:45:29
Expended until now since we instituted pre planning for employee payouts, which is a fairly relative new concept. 00:45:33
You should be reactionary to it. 00:45:40
So this is, this is new, this is new. The first year we appropriated quite a bit more, yes. And as the years have gone by, we've 00:45:44
been able to appropriate less and less, but we took a hit that we were not anticipating during budget season last year. 00:45:49
So normally the $25,000. 00:45:56
Motion to Approve 7 a second. 00:45:58
Motion and 2nd for seven A. Any further discussion? 00:46:01
All in favor say aye. 00:46:05
Aye, any opposed? 00:46:06
That carries. 00:46:08
So 7B is just redesignating into its line the Harris Act funds so that they are once again. 00:46:09
Housed in their separate line away from the rest of the rainy day monies. 00:46:16
And can be utilized if they need to be utilized towards whatever the Council needs that they are utilized towards this year. 00:46:20
We've talked. 00:46:28
But before we get a motion, we've talked about. 00:46:29
Designating this into its fund here for the last. 00:46:32
Couple months? I believe so. 00:46:35
If you all weren't in that initial conversation. 00:46:38
This was housed within Rainy Day. 00:46:41
We just house it in its own line every year so that. 00:46:44
I'm going to make a motion, but I do want to discuss this. 00:46:46
I think a motion for 7B for discussion purposes. 00:46:52
Motion a second. 7B. Go ahead, Denise. 00:46:56
I is. Is this necessary? 00:46:59
Are we going to use this amount? 00:47:05
To find part of the house. 00:47:07
Building or the re or the. 00:47:11
My understanding is that it's necessary to track what's actually left from the CARES Act. 00:47:14
It is something that we all decided as a council. 00:47:20
That you wanted to be able to do. 00:47:23
To track what's remaining, we did decide that in the past. My question is here. It's getting removed to that line. But do we do? 00:47:25
There's no. 00:47:30
There's no state requirement. This is a, this is a county specific decision and, and for me, the reason why we're doing this at 00:47:37
this point and, and. 00:47:42
I might be OK with it is that we want to use this for the health department. 00:47:46
To eat, to do some of the remodeling or to pay down? 00:47:53
Part of the the bond. 00:47:57
But I wanted to make sure that we all understand it. 00:47:58
That's the reason why we're doing this. We don't have to do this, just gives us a better look at. 00:48:01
I will say that Crowe worked their numbers utilized to understanding this amount. 00:48:07
I will let you know that the numbers that Crow is going to bring to you in March. 00:48:11
Include using this amount because of the historical consensus from the County Council from the last few years of dedicating the 00:48:15
remainder of the CARES Act money towards the health department's need. 00:48:20
OK, just as an FYI. 00:48:26
Any further questions or discussion? 00:48:29
All in favor of 7B say aye. 00:48:34
Aye, any opposed? 00:48:36
That carries and then I'm covering for Matt Lorch for an additional appropriation in their interpreter services line in their 1200 00:48:38
fund. 00:48:42
Motion to Approve 7. 00:48:48
Second motion is second for seven C Any questions, discussion. 00:48:50
All in favor say aye aye. 00:48:56
Any opposed? 00:48:58
That carries. 00:49:00
Right, eight. We have Floyd County Council business. 00:49:02
8A is for. 00:49:06
Transfer Ordinance. 00:49:08
The one item on there is. 00:49:10
So. 00:49:19
The motion would be for. 00:49:20
A proven transfers. 00:49:25
Without the 9146. 00:49:27
Transfer. 00:49:30
I'm sorry, 9188. 00:49:32
Motion to approve 8A the. 00:49:37
Ordinance for the February. 00:49:41
Transfers. 00:49:43
Without the. 00:49:45
9188, Thank you. 00:49:49
So we have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion on the transfers that we've gone through tonight? 00:49:54
All in favor say aye. 00:50:02
Any opposed? 00:50:04
That carries. 00:50:06
Bargaining board appointment. 00:50:07
Yeah, just give. 00:50:13
So at the original appointments, at the organizational meeting. 00:50:15
The Council appointed 2 representatives for the bargaining committees. The. 00:50:19
All of the bargaining committees. 00:50:25
There's actually supposed to be 3. 00:50:27
So a third individual needs to be assigned to the bargaining committees for this year, I will tell you. 00:50:29
That I don't believe there's a Sheriff's Department bargaining unit up this year. You may have some conversations with members of 00:50:35
their bargaining unit, but a true actual. 00:50:38
Contract won't be under review this year so if you're looking for a lighter weight appointment. 00:50:43
This would be a good one this year so and it's a way to get your feet wet. 00:50:47
We'll be finishing up the road department and. 00:50:50
Will be the new one is dispatched. You were on it, correct? I'm on it. Mr. Bagshaw, I believe is on it. 00:50:53
So if one of the new members, yeah. Are we opening the floor for nominations for the president? Yeah, I nominate Tony Turing. 00:51:00
You can accept it or not if you'd like. You can define. Yeah. You can decline if you'd like. 00:51:12
I was gonna I think we have one. 00:51:17
Remember that council member that has one committee appointment? 00:51:19
I have two. 00:51:23
You have to as well. 00:51:26
I don't recall. 00:51:28
Oh, OK, well. 00:51:29
Well, OK, I was going to nominate. 00:51:31
Sam Sarkinson. 00:51:34
So I do decline. 00:51:36
For which which committee before? 00:51:38
Bargaining for. 00:51:41
Road departments contract. 00:51:42
And for? 00:51:44
Dispatch for 911. 00:51:46
I don't mind doing the road department. 00:51:48
But I don't know about the district. 00:51:50
You don't know anything about dispatch. 00:51:53
OK, I'll do. 00:51:58
Yeah. 00:51:59
They come as a unit. We usually try to. 00:52:00
All in favor of Sam for. 00:52:03
Aye aye. Any opposed? 00:52:05
I don't know that we have a second. 00:52:08
There wasn't a second. 00:52:11
Carried away there, I didn't want anything to change back out. 00:52:13
AC. 00:52:19
We tabled 8C. Is there any committee report, Jim, anything? 00:52:21
I don't have anything. 00:52:29
It means Matt. 00:52:30
Sam Oh no, I've had enough. 00:52:34
I'm good. 00:52:39
I don't believe I have anything either, just be looking for emails. 00:52:41
Rescheduling with page. 00:52:47
Baker, Tilly. 00:52:49
We talk about dates or we're going to wait for her to let us know when she's available. 00:52:50
At this point, I think we're probably looking at early next week maybe. 00:52:56
Let's let's talk about time of day. We can do that. 00:52:59
Does anybody have a preference? 00:53:02
I heard down here a little bit later in the day we could. 00:53:04
Yeah, I just asked for after one if possible. 00:53:08
Myself. 00:53:12
I'm I'm out of town until next week. 00:53:13
I couldn't do men. 00:53:18
I can, I can. 00:53:21
Well, actually, it's a team immediately. 00:53:23
It was in the afternoon. I don't know if I can. 00:53:25
And we can up to two council members. 00:53:30
Well, we were talking about coming here to see the presentation on the big board, but I'll be out Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday too, 00:53:32
but I can remote in. 00:53:36
I I mean, this is kind of an important one. I'd rather wait. 00:53:41
I'm out the first week of March 1st full week but. 00:53:46
We can, uh. 00:53:49
Can we do the last week in February? 00:53:50
This, I mean, I do think this is going to really impact. 00:53:53
How we move forward with some of the decisions that we're making. 00:53:58
So once paid for flies, let us know, we suggest. 00:54:23
The last week of February and date option I'm showing a joint meeting on the 25th. 00:54:28
At 4:00. 00:54:33
Oh, maybe we should just do it then we do it after that. 00:54:34
Or during it. 00:54:38
Honestly, I think this would be a really good thing for the commissioners to hear as well. I'll, I'll get with Alan, see if 00:54:40
they're OK to sitting in on that. I'm sure they would be. 00:54:45
Work. I work a lot better. 00:54:49
OK. 00:54:53
It starts at 4:00. 00:54:55
Let's pencil it in for now and. 00:54:57
If everybody's OK, then we'll send out a. 00:54:59
Revised. 00:55:02
How long is it? 00:55:03
1520 minutes depending on how many questions we ask and then. 00:55:07
You know, we usually try to cap the joint meeting in an hour. Al tries to be pretty. 00:55:13
Prompt. But we, you know, we may extend it just a little bit for that. 00:55:17
Might be an hour and a half. 00:55:21
Maybe, yeah. 00:55:23
Could be, but yeah, we need to, we need to get this one right and so. 00:55:24
I agree. 00:55:29
Will. 00:55:30
I'll send out a follow up. 00:55:32
When we have it. 00:55:37
Nail down that that sounds. 00:55:39
OK, any other? 00:55:41
Steve's out. 00:55:46
If y'all didn't hear so. 00:55:47
He's got a pretty bad case, so. 00:55:50
Keep him in your thoughts and prayers and. 00:55:52
Too much. 00:55:58
Oh yes. 00:55:59
Anybody from public? 00:56:00
Don't have everybody run to the mic. 00:56:03
I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. So moved. 00:56:04
Say all in favor. 00:56:07
Aye, aye. 00:56:09
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Facebook. 00:00:00
I know these new kids. 00:00:01
We will call the Floyd County Council meeting to order for Tuesday, February 11th. Please stand for the budget of Allegiance. 00:00:04
My religions to the flag of the United States of America. 00:00:13
To the Republic for which it stands. 00:00:17
Nation and God. 00:00:20
Thank you. Let the record show that we have a full quorum tonight. Mr. Bagshaw, would you lead us in the prayer, please? Let's 00:00:27
pray. 00:00:30
Oh Lord, we thank you today, another day. We thank you for the snow we know. 00:00:34
We understand that you you know what the Earth needs. 00:00:39
We thank you for keeping people safe today, we all, and we're always grateful for freedom and liberty that our country affords. 00:00:42
That we can meet an open meeting like this without fear of retribution. 00:00:49
Lord, please give us the wisdom and the knowledge to make prudent choices on behalf of the county today. 00:00:54
Or please be with our first responders. 00:00:59
And keep them safe as they keep us safe. Be with our. 00:01:03
Sailors, airmen and. 00:01:07
Marines and Army today and keep them safe as they defend freedom around the world. 00:01:08
And all these things we ask in your name, Amen. 00:01:14
Thank you. Before we move on to the acceptance of the agenda, there are a couple. 00:01:17
Changes. 00:01:21
A Judge Granger. 00:01:23
Would like to table hers. 00:01:26
Umm, new business 1. 00:01:29
And. 00:01:31
There was talk over e-mail of tabling 8C. 00:01:32
Until we speak with Baker Tilly. 00:01:36
And the third thing is Mr. Timbery's here to speak to us. 00:01:39
We're gonna put him on at the very beginning so he can hit the road. 00:01:43
So. 00:01:47
If we have a motion. 00:01:49
With those changes. 00:01:51
I I do not want to. 00:01:54
Completely table everything. 00:01:56
For the public safety available, I think we should. 00:01:59
Appropriate the amount that we need. 00:02:04
I don't think we've. 00:02:07
Advertised for. 00:02:10
So you would all have to. 00:02:14
Do we have an appropriation to pay the public? 00:02:23
Sorry, check. 00:02:28
Have to be happy. 00:02:29
Go ahead and pay the contracts. 00:02:31
No, we have not done any appropriations. However, we pay in the contracts. 00:02:34
We're we're going to appropriate and appropriate next week. 00:02:41
OK. 00:03:01
Oh sure, is this one. 00:03:03
It's green. 00:03:06
Appropriations and public safety that fund nor have there been any advertised. 00:03:09
OK. 00:03:13
Yeah, OK, OK. 00:03:18
Fair. 00:03:20
Yeah, I guess I'm. 00:03:22
We'd be happy to do a generic appropriation. 00:03:25
Advertisement. 00:03:28
For next month, but outside of that. 00:03:30
You don't know what these. 00:03:33
Yeah, I think we need. 00:03:39
I think we need to have an appropriation for the contracts that we're paying. 00:03:41
OK, that's my unless. Unless is there something that I'm missing? 00:03:49
OK, Nope. I think you're. 00:03:54
Right on. 00:03:56
That's at least what we have to do. 00:03:58
Yeah, I couldn't understand why we hadn't. 00:04:05
Done that, but. 00:04:08
OK. 00:04:10
Fame there. 00:04:12
So I'm I'm good. 00:04:15
Is that is that a motion to approve the agenda with those changes? Yes. OK. Second, we have a motion to 2nd for approval of 00:04:17
tonight's agenda with. 00:04:21
Changes that were noted. 00:04:26
Any discussion? 00:04:28
All in favor say aye aye. 00:04:29
Any opposed? 00:04:32
You're up, Mr. Barry. 00:04:34
I'm sorry, is there anybody from the public that wish? 00:04:38
Would like to speak before we get started. 00:04:40
You're still up. Go ahead. 00:04:43
Thank you, Mr. President, members of the Council. 00:04:47
Tim Berry with Crow. 00:04:50
A couple of things. 00:04:53
I'm here first. 00:04:55
On behalf of. 00:04:57
Some good news. 00:04:59
In November of this year, we received a call from S&P. 00:05:01
Wanting to review the bond rating for the county. 00:05:07
And on short notice. 00:05:10
At the most inopportune time when property tax collections are taking place. 00:05:13
We were able to pull together a meeting. 00:05:20
And I want to thank Commissioner Al Kanable, Councilmember Danny Short. 00:05:22
Don Blop. 00:05:27
Diana Topping. 00:05:29
And we had a conversation with SP in late November. 00:05:31
They came back at the end of January to affirm. 00:05:35
Floyd County's rating. 00:05:40
As an A and to affirm that on a stable basis. 00:05:42
Said that the economic outlook in Floyd County remains strong. 00:05:47
The actions that the Council. 00:05:53
Has made. 00:05:56
To stabilize live income and lit revenues. 00:05:57
They commended. 00:06:01
And and said that your outlook? 00:06:02
Looked good. 00:06:06
Moving forward and. 00:06:07
Maintain that a stable rating. 00:06:09
On the. 00:06:12
Bonds that were issued in 2021. 00:06:14
For Nova. 00:06:17
So, umm. 00:06:18
Tim, can I ask a question? Was it, did we have an A rating already? OK. So they maintain the rating. Yes, they maintain the 00:06:19
rating. 00:06:23
And during times like this, you know with. 00:06:27
Some economic instability going on, uncertainties with revenues in many communities, certainly. 00:06:32
The way Indiana tracks. 00:06:41
Their audit and their financials on a cash basis instead of. 00:06:44
On an accrual basis. 00:06:51
Maintaining an A stable rating is very good. 00:06:53
Thank you. Now that is on your. 00:06:57
Backed bonds. 00:07:00
Your local income tax bonds. 00:07:02
So wanted to provide that and also wanted to thank the extra efforts. 00:07:04
Diana went into to. 00:07:11
It was mostly Diana to get backup documentation and information to provide to them. 00:07:14
And to affirm that and so. 00:07:22
I want to thank her and her staff. 00:07:25
For all of their efforts to to get that accomplished on behalf of the county. 00:07:27
Also here tonight. 00:07:33
We had a conversation. 00:07:36
Last Friday. 00:07:38
With regards to the timing of the purchase of the Health Department building. 00:07:39
We would anticipate coming back to you at your March meeting with bond parameters. 00:07:45
And I just wanted to. 00:07:52
Introduce that concept here tonight so that everything was prepared for at that time. 00:07:55
We anticipate or we understand the purchase of the building at approximately $2.2 million. 00:08:02
There is some cash available to take care of. 00:08:10
Remodeling and renovation costs. 00:08:16
That will be utilized for that. 00:08:19
And there is a little bit that we would anticipate in the bond resolution to include. 00:08:22
Over and above that. 00:08:28
For renovation and cost of issuance. 00:08:30
We're looking to give the county flexibility as you work through what your revenues are and reallocate expenditures. 00:08:33
Some flexibility on repayment of that. 00:08:44
We're looking at a five year. 00:08:47
Band with some options available to the county to either prepaid early if you were in position to do that. 00:08:49
Um, to. 00:09:00
Pay interest only through the life of that ban and the option then ultimately if you chose to do so. 00:09:02
To take that out if you chose not to pay off the ban. 00:09:09
Either early or at the time of the. 00:09:14
Conclusion of that ban. 00:09:16
So that is what we would anticipate bringing back before you at next month's meeting or at the. 00:09:19
March meeting. 00:09:26
And just would entertain any questions that you may have or. 00:09:28
Ensure that that is consistent with what? 00:09:32
Thoughts are. 00:09:35
With regards to that prior to. 00:09:36
The bond resolution. 00:09:39
What, what kind of rate do you think we'll get on on a ban? 00:09:41
A5 year ban. 00:09:46
I can't tell you a rate at this point in time. I will tell you that interest rates are changing. 00:09:48
Your rates have been. 00:09:55
Fairly competitive. You've done some bands of recent note. 00:09:56
Recently. 00:10:01
They've been all fairly competitive along those lines. 00:10:02
You've had in the past. 00:10:07
A lot of interest. 00:10:09
In your bonds or in your band? 00:10:11
Which has decreased your cost and your interest costs. 00:10:14
Accordingly. 00:10:19
And can you explain to us again why we would do a ban versus going ahead and bonding this right off the bat? 00:10:23
To provide you some flexibility. 00:10:32
If you remember. 00:10:35
The jail originally, yeah, but there was a lot of work to be done on the jail. So that's the reason why I think we did the. But 00:10:38
yet ultimately you chose to utilize cash and to pay that off without taking out the long-term bond. 00:10:45
I think some thinking has been based upon feedback that we've received. 00:10:54
That you may want to be in that same position again. 00:10:59
On this project. 00:11:03
And so that would be the advantage of doing the ban. 00:11:06
Over a short term to provide you the most flexibility. 00:11:10
To pay that off without penalty. 00:11:14
And to pay that off early. 00:11:17
But certainly. 00:11:20
We can look at it. 00:11:22
In multiple ways. 00:11:24
Also gives us flexibility. 00:11:27
To let other projects. 00:11:29
Catch up. Umm. 00:11:31
And possibly bond together. 00:11:33
That is correct. 00:11:35
Now that. 00:11:38
It's just. 00:11:40
It's yes. It's that word flexibility. It gives us options. 00:11:42
Not saying that it won't go to a bond. 00:11:47
That's I would imagine the interest rates on the band are. 00:11:49
More than interest rate on the bot. 00:11:56
Would be. 00:11:58
I guess that's where maybe I was thinking coming from is that if you're looking at a long term ban or bond, bond. 00:12:00
Yeah, if you're looking at a long term, yes. 00:12:07
They are a little bit, but not that much different. 00:12:11
Because of the interest rate environment that we are in. 00:12:14
Umm, and it all depends on on structuring as well. 00:12:18
If you are looking to only pay interest. 00:12:25
Versus to pay some principal and interest during the life of the bank. 00:12:28
OK. 00:12:34
I mean. 00:12:38
I'm I'm kind of wanting to look at both banding and bonding. 00:12:41
I kind of do want to look at both options. 00:12:46
Does that make sense to everybody? 00:12:49
Yeah, and that's kind of why we lifted. 00:12:51
OK with that option. 00:12:53
I will say and I have not had a chance to review closely, so I want to be able to do that and I don't want to speak incorrectly. 00:12:56
But I know there were some amendments to Senate Bill 1 today. 00:13:06
That might impact. 00:13:11
General obligation bonds. 00:13:16
So I want to review that before I advise what What's the possible change that could have happened? I want to advise first. I want 00:13:19
to review an advice first. 00:13:23
There's lots. There's a lot going on. I know there's a lot going on. 00:13:28
Good news is they didn't pull out. 00:13:32
Much of what was there impacting the amount of revenue that you would be able to? 00:13:35
Realize. 00:13:40
So the revenue hit to local governments will not be as severe. 00:13:42
As initially. 00:13:47
Provided it got chopped pretty good today. 00:13:48
Amendment amendments hit pretty hard. 00:13:51
So. 00:13:54
And that's why I want to look at all those amendments. 00:13:56
To review that. 00:14:00
But you will be presenting both a band and a bond situation. 00:14:01
You will be approving maximum parameters. 00:14:05
So it's going to be on a band. 00:14:10
Regardless of whether we bonded or not until the projects. 00:14:12
Ready to bond? 00:14:16
But this? 00:14:19
We'll have time to figure out. 00:14:21
If we if we lump together, if we go straight. 00:14:24
Or if we pay off. 00:14:27
So we're, we're, we've already made the decision today. 00:14:28
No. 00:14:31
We still have to. 00:14:32
But you're going to be on a band for a while before. 00:14:35
Bonds are issued so. 00:14:39
We have to be on a band to complete the purchase. 00:14:41
I think the question was would you issue up? 00:14:45
Ban or a bond immediately. Yes, yes and I think the question. 00:14:47
And that's where I was asking what the preference of was the council and I thought I heard. 00:14:52
A ban at this point in time. 00:14:57
You could always do a five year bond or A5 year ban. 00:15:02
Or if you're looking to extend that out. 00:15:08
Longer term, that the flexibility in the band gives you the option to convert. 00:15:12
It gives you the option to pay interest only. 00:15:17
It gives the option to make payments or makes. 00:15:19
I think we need that right now until we figure out. 00:15:22
Some other things going on downtown. 00:15:26
I think it gives you the flexibility for all projects in the future. It also gives you the flexibility to better understand. 00:15:31
The impact of the reallocation of the lit dollars into the budget. 00:15:38
And what impact that will do to? 00:15:45
Potentially provide you dollars. 00:15:49
I've done some work and it and it appears to me that. 00:15:52
If we do. 00:15:56
A 25 year ban that. 00:15:58
The health department has the money to pay for at least. 00:16:01
Half of that. 00:16:06
Now depends on what happens in the General Assembly, or does depend on what happens. 00:16:07
It really does. So there is a lot. 00:16:12
Of based on information that we received from legal counsel. 00:16:16
Dollars are limited at. 00:16:22
As to what can be spent from health department funds? 00:16:24
Based upon the source there is, yes, it's very limited. It's $87,000. 00:16:28
Is what they have to spend on an annual basis. 00:16:33
We know those numbers. 00:16:36
So if you do. 00:16:38
Long term. 00:16:39
25 year. 00:16:41
Bond at. 00:16:43
6%, which I would think you could get back. 00:16:45
A much better rate than that. 00:16:48
But it's $187,000, so they can pay nearly half of. 00:16:50
That. 00:16:56
Based on the current situation. 00:16:58
Now, is that situation going to continue? 00:17:00
I don't know. 00:17:03
That's why I'm looking at. 00:17:04
A bond versus a band because. 00:17:07
I think they have the opportunity to pay well. We discussed a lot of this. 00:17:10
Repayment that does not change repayment. 00:17:14
But we just, we discussed a lot of the same options when we were talking about. 00:17:17
The jail on how we wanted to proceed and. 00:17:20
You know. 00:17:23
If you put a 25 year bond on that. 00:17:24
It's doable, but. 00:17:27
1215 years you're. 00:17:30
You're gonna redo that building in some form or fashion. It may not cost as much as it does now. 00:17:32
But there's going to be upkeep and. 00:17:36
Rehab and new equipment and. 00:17:39
Whatever, uh. 00:17:41
So. 00:17:43
And while you would be potentially using other funds to make that payment. 00:17:45
You would be pledging in your bond documents. 00:17:51
The general obligation of the county. 00:17:56
Sure, sure, I understand. 00:17:58
Understand that. 00:18:00
OK. 00:18:05
I don't. 00:18:07
Is everybody on board with the band versus upon? 00:18:09
Listen, looking back, I voted. 00:18:12
To pay off the jail. 00:18:15
I'm not sure I would make that tank both. 00:18:17
Again. 00:18:19
So I'll just say that. 00:18:20
So to use that. 00:18:23
Analogy. Or use that. 00:18:25
History is I don't, I don't know. 00:18:27
I I guess my point would be that. 00:18:31
This at least offers us the flexibility because there are still a lot of unknowns. 00:18:33
Yeah, right. 00:18:38
And what I really don't want to get into is we're in a situation where we're locked into something and then we have to deal with 00:18:39
that something else comes along. This gives us the flexibility to be able to deal with things as they come along. OK, a little 00:18:45
more. I do like the flexibility of it. I mean, I think we could get a bond. 00:18:50
That would allow us to pay it off. 00:18:56
Five in five years I think we could. 00:18:59
I think we could. 00:19:03
Right. 00:19:04
An early payment bond. 00:19:06
That would cost you. 00:19:09
If you were to do that. 00:19:11
It costs for the flexibility of that. Yeah, yes. So OK, OK, enough said. If band is the way we everyone thinks we should go. 00:19:13
Are you going to send more information to us before the March? 00:19:22
You will getting or with the documents, the legal documents that will have all of the maximum parameters and we'll have some 00:19:28
documentation attached to that. You might have anything else for Mr. Barry. 00:19:33
Thank you very much. 00:19:39
Thank you. 00:19:40
Thank you. 00:19:42
Point of order, Mr. Chairman. We didn't approve minutes. 00:19:44
You are correct. 00:19:47
Accept the minutes. 00:19:50
1/14/24. 00:19:52
25 organizational meeting minutes. 00:19:54
And the 1142025 meeting minutes. 00:19:56
2nd, we have a motion and 2nd for approval of those minutes. Any discussion on those? 00:20:00
All in favor say aye aye. 00:20:06
I abstain. 00:20:08
Understood. 00:20:11
That passes. Thank you for bringing that up. 00:20:12
Miss Diana Topping for. 00:20:16
Yes. 00:20:21
So I'm covering for Charlotte Bass this evening. 00:20:23
You have. 00:20:26
Additional appropriations. 00:20:29
That are being requested. So out of the 8906 fund she's requesting $2249.82 and that is to cover some. 00:20:31
Increased costs and supplies. 00:20:40
Motion to approve 2A. 00:20:45
Second, as advertised, we have a motion a second for 2A. Any discussion? 00:20:47
All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:20:52
That carries. 00:20:55
And we so in her 9150 fund. 00:20:57
Because that fund covers the cost for her employee that gets paid out of there. It covers the entire cost, including. 00:21:01
The employers portion of health insurance, so she's requesting an additional appropriation of $9000 in her health insurance line 00:21:08
in that fund. 00:21:11
Motion to approve to be as advertised. 00:21:16
2nd we have a motion and a second for 2B. 00:21:19
Any discussion or questions? 00:21:21
All in favor say aye. 00:21:24
Aye, any opposed? 00:21:26
That carries two seed. 00:21:27
9273 or an additional request for $3318.36. This is just to cover some contractual employee costs. 00:21:29
Move to approve to see. 00:21:38
Second motion and a second for to see any discussion. 00:21:40
All in favor say aye. Opposed. 00:21:46
That carries. 00:21:49
2D2 D is out of the 1161. It's an additional appropriation. These are, this is these are monies that are a commitment towards the 00:21:51
cost of the new building. So it's $72,671.90. So this is an additional appropriation, moving those funds into a line so they can 00:21:57
actually be spent towards do you know what that's for? 00:22:03
I'm sorry, you know what it's for. 00:22:09
Specifically an Albany building quite literally listed as commitment towards the cost of the new building. I believe this is the 00:22:11
amount that they are allowed to contribute from the 1161 towards. 00:22:16
Potential renovations and purchase of that new building. 00:22:21
And it has to be appropriated so that it can be utilized. 00:22:25
She's kind of getting ahead of the game. 00:22:28
She's being prepared and pledging it this year. 00:22:29
OK, motion to approve. 00:22:34
2D as advertising. 00:22:37
Second, have a motion and a second for 2D. Any further discussion? 00:22:39
All in favor say aye. 00:22:44
Any opposed? 00:22:46
Carries. 00:22:48
Stan. 00:22:51
This is the follow up for the appropriations for. 00:22:58
Engineering study to have the water pipes moved over the IT room. 00:23:02
This is the this third month in a row. 00:23:11
I believe it is December, January and February. 00:23:13
We have a motion. We do have a. 00:23:19
Portion of the engineering study that's been provided to the sheriff. 00:23:21
He's going to review the options. Take a look at it. 00:23:25
I think he's go his plans are discussed with the commissioners to see if it's a viable plan. 00:23:28
Once they decide on which play, if it is a viable plan, they're going to submit. 00:23:33
Back to Kurt. 00:23:38
Her garlic and they're going to send out the RFP's to solicit. 00:23:40
The bidding process so. 00:23:45
Do we have a motion for 3A? 00:23:50
Is this part of the? 00:23:54
I'll make them up. I'll make a motion so we can discuss. Motion to approve 3A. 00:23:57
Second motion is second. Go ahead, Sam. Is this part of the? 00:24:02
50,000 that was appropriated back. 00:24:05
Yeah, it was. This was the 50,000 that we never got obligated. So we came back in January, had it reappropriated so that we can 00:24:08
move forward with the study. 00:24:13
So yes, it is and and we worked with the. 00:24:18
Previous building. 00:24:22
Authority Commissioner. 00:24:25
To try to. 00:24:27
Determine a cost. Chuck advised that it was going to run at least 50,000. 00:24:28
We did. We have been working with Donnie. Donnie Hair. 00:24:32
And he has found a couple of options with engineers who could provide us. 00:24:36
Exactly what we need with the study itself to send out solicit RFPs so. 00:24:41
Heading obviously half the price. 00:24:46
The actual cost? 00:24:51
That we've incurred so far is about 20 to 5 I believe. So this is the 25 is just to encompass any additional costs that may. 00:24:53
Hit that we we didn't originally account for. 00:25:03
So. 00:25:06
But Stan, this is just the study. This is not the actual work. This is just the engineering study. 00:25:08
And there's no working drawing or specifications for $25,000. 00:25:14
Or three pipes. I just don't understand that. I mean. 00:25:18
Chairman, I've talked about that many times. 00:25:22
Yeah, I don't understand. Maybe I'm just ignorant. I'm not an engineer, but that seems like a. 00:25:25
To say, yeah, look up and say, yeah, you can't move those three times, it's not necessary. 00:25:30
Not necessarily the pipes, Mr. Banks. So it's it's the equipment that sits under the pipes. It's a couple $1,000,000 worth of 00:25:34
equipment. So we just moving 3 pipes. 00:25:39
Equipment, uh. 00:25:44
Is and I've said numerous times, Hussey Mechanical was. 00:25:45
That building for decades. 00:25:52
And they probably have engineers on staff. 00:25:54
That would move three pipes. 00:25:57
I don't understand. 00:25:59
Building authorities. 00:26:00
Dishonest, but. 00:26:02
And we all recognize it could be a disaster if all that. 00:26:04
IT equipment gets water on. It's an absolute disaster. We understand that clearly this. 00:26:08
But umm. 00:26:13
And. 00:26:17
I'm not a I won't use Diana's favorite saying about myself, but I just I don't understand why it just have a study to say Yeah, 00:26:18
you need. 00:26:22
Well, I can tell you that. 00:26:27
We need to move the pipes. 00:26:31
For $25,000, I'd like to think we got working drawings with specifications of how it's going to be done. 00:26:32
So now they're going to come back with another. 00:26:39
Be for. 00:26:41
Working drawings and specifications, I think, I think the plan is, if I understood you correctly, was to take the information that 00:26:43
you have and be able to put out an RFP based off that. 00:26:48
Yes, OK. 00:26:53
Show garage specifications. 00:26:55
Yes. 00:26:58
Well, this is the issue. 00:27:00
Brought up last time, I just kind of wondered with the commissary funds, the amount of. 00:27:01
Funds they have available there. 00:27:06
The Sheriff's Department couldn't pick this up. 00:27:08
At least this portion of it. 00:27:11
And we got. 00:27:13
A partial listing of some of those. 00:27:14
Revenues, expenses, we didn't get the full one first. 00:27:17
Yes, you're all just not going to give it to us even though we asked nicely. 00:27:21
Not going to give it to us. 00:27:25
Yes. No. 00:27:27
I'm asking you to stand. 00:27:29
What exactly? I sent the e-mail, I followed up with you and I said. 00:27:30
The same listing that we got a year ago. 00:27:34
All the credit card detail and all that because you can't tell. 00:27:37
What these sixteen $17,000 credit card spends is our per month. 00:27:40
There's no detail to it. 00:27:45
You're only going to. You just decide you're not going to give it to us. 00:27:46
I did not make that decision. Well, I've asked for it and there was no response. 00:27:50
So that's a number. 00:27:54
We don't have in our. 00:27:56
Can you send me last year's and I'll be glad that we're. 00:27:59
I sent it. It's in the. It's in the listing I forwarded from last year. I took the exact e-mail from the. 00:28:02
Year with that information. 00:28:08
There's a breakdown of the detail of the credit card expenses you all provided to us. 00:28:10
I'll be glad. 00:28:15
I think I sent you everything that we were supposed to send. 00:28:17
No, you didn't. OK. 00:28:21
Is there any further discussion here? We're going to. 00:28:27
We good. 00:28:31
All right, we have a motion and a second for. 00:28:33
3/8. 00:28:36
All in favor say aye. 00:28:37
Aye aye, opposed. 00:28:39
That carries. 00:28:42
Thanks. Thank you. 00:28:43
Anybody here for Kent? 00:28:46
Yes, Sir. Mr. President, Tammy called today and asked if I would. 00:28:47
Represent a. 00:28:51
For a they are appropriating 2024 funds to 2025. 00:28:53
So, umm. 00:28:59
With that in mind, I'd move that for a be approved. 00:29:01
Tag it motion a second for 4A. 00:29:04
Any discussion? 00:29:07
All in favor say aye. 00:29:10
Aye, any opposed? 00:29:12
That carries. 00:29:14
Your rights? 00:29:17
Community Corrections received a 8 odd grant. 00:29:26
I'm asking the money be appropriated so I can purchase drug test supplies. 00:29:28
Motion to Approve 5. 00:29:33
As sacrificed, I'll second. 00:29:35
Have motion a second for 5A any. 00:29:37
Questions for Darius. 00:29:39
All in favor say aye. 00:29:42
Aye, any opposed? 00:29:44
That carries. 00:29:46
Community Corrections is asking to move drug testing supply money to professional services. 00:29:48
A transfer of money. 00:29:53
This is an ideal. 00:29:54
Motion to approve 5B. 00:29:58
Sure, have a motion and 2nd for 5B. 00:30:00
Any discussion? 00:30:03
All in favor say aye aye. 00:30:05
Any opposed? 00:30:08
That carries. Thank you. Thanks. 00:30:09
Mr. Nick Creevy. 00:30:11
Model through this again. 00:30:17
So the first one is a 1135 fund. 00:30:19
This is a reappropriation. 00:30:23
Of 97,500 this might not encumbered last year. 00:30:25
This is for bridge 27. 00:30:29
The engineering. 00:30:32
For that. 00:30:34
We hope to use that to apply for some grant funds later this year. 00:30:35
Place that bridge. 00:30:40
Where is bridge 27? 00:30:43
It's out West of Greenville or Georgetown. 00:30:46
I can't. I can't you know what wrote a trial. I think it's. 00:30:53
But I'd have to. 00:30:57
You're not. I'm not familiar with all the numbers yet other than bridge 51. 00:31:01
Bridge 51 has its own Facebook page now. That's nice. 00:31:12
This this works. 00:31:15
This was one of the bridges set for. 00:31:17
Replacement in the annual bridge inspection. 00:31:19
I was just curious. 00:31:24
I'll look into it now. 00:31:31
So did you say there's a grant? This is for a matching grant. 00:31:32
Community Crossings grant. 00:31:40
Is that in jeopardy at all? The community crossings grant stuff. 00:31:42
With all the legislation. 00:31:46
Yeah, I don't know what they're short answer is yes, it's all these. That's what I find it will. 00:31:49
From what I hear, probably not go away but be revised. 00:31:56
You know, so it's been a good program for us. We. 00:32:01
Yeah, the county has Utah. 00:32:03
It every year, in fact, yeah. 00:32:05
Yeah, I mean. 00:32:07
And and and so I guess my. 00:32:09
Follow up question then is. 00:32:12
Do you go ahead with this? No. 00:32:14
The bridge needs to be replaced. We need to do. 00:32:16
But we're gonna have to. 00:32:20
We may have come up with. 00:32:21
All the money, you know. 00:32:23
This this this portion. 00:32:24
It's we're paying locally for that. 00:32:27
It's the implementation that we're seeking. 00:32:31
Yeah, this, this is the. 00:32:34
Initial, umm. 00:32:35
Work that has to be done before. 00:32:36
And then we go. 00:32:38
Tried to get the grant forth. 00:32:39
OK, OK. 00:32:41
Moved to approve. 6A is advertised. 00:32:44
We got into discussion before that, sorry. Yeah. So we have a motion. Is there a second? 00:32:46
Oh, second. 00:32:53
We have a motion a second for 6A. Any further discussion? 00:32:54
All in favor say aye. Any opposed? 00:32:58
That carries. 00:33:02
B is an appropriation from 1173. This is also. 00:33:04
Matching Grant. 00:33:12
This is for our awarded amount. 00:33:13
This is the local. 00:33:16
For that amount. 00:33:17
Oh, so this was already awarded? 00:33:18
While we we had the con. 00:33:20
We've been awarded by the state. We had the, we set the bids. We reopened those last week at the. 00:33:22
Contract. 00:33:29
Motion to approve 6B as advertised. Second motion and a second for 6B any. 00:33:31
Discussion. Hopefully they won't yank. 00:33:38
Get out of things that are only in progress. Yeah, I think anything they're going to do now would be. 00:33:41
Effect next year there. 00:33:46
All in favor, Are you ready? 00:33:47
Were you OK? All in favor of 6B? Say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:33:50
That one carries. 00:33:55
Item C is. 00:33:57
From Fund 1176. 00:33:59
This is for the salt water. 00:34:01
The work department recently. 00:34:04
And ordered 2000 tons. 00:34:07
Solitary punish. 00:34:09
Motion to approve 6C as advertised. Second motion a second for 6C. Any questions or discussion? How are we doing on our Sol? 00:34:11
I will have to check for what we just did. 00:34:21
Today and last night. 00:34:24
But we we have good stores. 00:34:26
Now this is for delivery for. 00:34:28
The next order that we we came into this. 00:34:32
Winter in really good shape and we have a minimum that we need. 00:34:35
And purchase to get the good rate so. 00:34:38
No that I was just curious where we stand. 00:34:40
Any further discussion? 00:34:44
All in favor of 6C say aye aye. Any opposed? 00:34:46
That carries. 00:34:50
D item D is from. 00:34:53
9112 This is a reimbursement. 00:34:55
For. 00:34:58
A developer fee. 00:34:59
Traffic impact study. 00:35:01
Project that. 00:35:03
Motion to approve 6D as advertised. 00:35:05
Second motion and a second for 60 Any questions or discussion? 00:35:08
All in favor say aye aye. 00:35:14
Any opposed? 00:35:16
That carries. 00:35:17
All right, Item E. 00:35:19
19124. 00:35:21
He said for several grants. 00:35:24
The Caesar Foundation or Grant Local. 00:35:27
Community Grant. 00:35:34
Indiana Economic Development Grant. 00:35:37
Total 400 and three 683. 00:35:40
50 So these are for projects that the regional community park and. 00:35:43
You make my move. 00:35:47
Motion to Approve 6. 00:35:51
E as advertised. 00:35:52
Motion and a second for 6E. 00:35:55
Any discussion? 00:35:57
I have a question. 00:35:58
Why is the park money going into? 00:36:00
The commissioners grant Why wouldn't you go into the parks? 00:36:05
It's for Nova Park, correct? 00:36:10
Oh, it's for Noah Park. 00:36:11
No, the Caesar Foundation Park Green. 00:36:13
Is for the Regional Park. 00:36:15
Regional market. 00:36:16
Oh, it's for the Regional Park. 00:36:17
OK. 00:36:20
Perfect, perfect. 00:36:22
Good answer. 00:36:25
All right, any further discussion? 00:36:27
All in favor 6 E say aye. 00:36:30
Aye, any opposed? 00:36:32
That carries. 00:36:34
Onto F. 00:36:35
Item F is from 9130. 00:36:38
So this is for Community and economic development projects 160. 00:36:44
1000 and the bridge with. 00:36:48
Right away. Rumors, man. 00:36:50
Underneath. 00:36:51
400. 00:36:53
The Community and economic development projects are grants for. 00:36:54
Rural transit. 00:36:59
Transit grant and IADC programming grant and the ready to. 00:37:00
.0 grand for the. 00:37:05
The editorial board. 00:37:07
Motion to Approve 6. 00:37:09
Second motion in the second for 6F any discussion? 00:37:12
All in favor say aye. 00:37:17
Aye. 00:37:19
Opposed. 00:37:20
Carries finally. 00:37:21
G is a joint resolution you should have. 00:37:24
Copy of the original. 00:37:27
This is. 00:37:32
For a joint resolution. 00:37:33
To transfer a parcel. 00:37:35
Property to. 00:37:37
The town of Georgetown. 00:37:38
Ready here from Georgetown is here. 00:37:40
Described it a little bit more. 00:37:43
Thank you, Councillor Jamie Randy Keener, Towel Manager, Town Georgetown SO. 00:37:47
The property in question is a small easement parcel located on Georgetown Lanesville Rd. 00:37:51
Between the railroad trestle and the first bridge you come to as you cross Georgetown until. 00:37:58
The town the last couple years have purchased all the. 00:38:03
Properties from. 00:38:07
The Georgetown softball field of Georgetown. 00:38:08
To Georgetown Lanes already, So this is the last property that we need to acquire all the land. 00:38:11
Within that space. 00:38:17
What we plan to do with it, some of it's going to be green space. 00:38:19
But we also wish to move Lois Lane from. 00:38:22
Going right along the road trestle. 00:38:26
And move it out so that fire trucks and school buses can get in and service. So not only the park, but the residents who live on 00:38:28
Wilson Whisperer. 00:38:31
Motion to approve 6G. 00:38:36
That's advertising. 00:38:39
2nd, we have a motion and a second for 6G. Any further questions or discussion? You said this was? 00:38:40
I heard you say easement and you said parcel, so is that? 00:38:47
How much property is involved with this? I'm just curious. 00:38:51
Parcel is. 00:38:58
Very small parcel, it's enough. 00:39:00
Available right away, right along the road. 00:39:02
Alley tracks. 00:39:05
All right, sort of talking to Edgar training. 00:39:09
That's why I was curious, because I didn't see anything. 00:39:11
Any further discussion? 00:39:18
All in favor of 6G say aye. 00:39:21
Aye, any opposed? 00:39:23
Nick, you've got a ways to go to get to Mr. Law on your. 00:39:27
He's got a skulls disease before. 00:39:33
Is it? Is it possible to get an update on bridge 51? 00:39:37
Tell us what you know. 00:39:44
So. 00:39:45
Bridge 51 continues to be closed. 00:39:46
Due to the dam failure. 00:39:49
And not the condition of the deck or anything else. This was privately owned dam. 00:39:52
We are in the process. 00:39:58
Acquiring that dam for the project. 00:39:59
The owner of the dam. 00:40:02
Did not agree with our appraisal. 00:40:04
Process. 00:40:08
When the failed, fail. 00:40:09
We continue that process now that is in the court they have. 00:40:11
Pointed appraisers. 00:40:16
And we're working through that. 00:40:18
Regulated process. 00:40:19
We do still anticipate that the right away. 00:40:21
Acquisition phase will be completed. 00:40:25
By the end of March, which will set the timeline for the construction, letting the. 00:40:27
Contract, uh. 00:40:33
For the. 00:40:34
September and SO started work. 00:40:37
Likely. 00:40:41
This year, early next year, we are trying to get. 00:40:43
That lighting date moved up. 00:40:46
But we're working with federal regulations as administrator with. 00:40:48
That so. 00:40:52
Kind of get that. 00:40:55
Do you have any hope that we're gonna be able to open the old bridge back up so. 00:40:56
The County Road department has. 00:41:01
Put some fill. 00:41:03
In our. 00:41:04
Engineering Consultant. 00:41:07
Wants to see. 00:41:09
The water. 00:41:11
Ways and then go back down South, they can see what the impact of that was before that they're willing to kind of sign off on 00:41:13
opening the bridge back up. We would like to be able to get the rail. 00:41:18
Up as well and open it fully. 00:41:23
There is an option that it might be reduced. 00:41:25
A reduced line opening if we cannot do that. 00:41:31
We are working on that. 00:41:35
Some of it will be dependent on. 00:41:36
Water level. 00:41:40
Agreeing with us and so our engineers can look at it. 00:41:43
And from what I understand, it's not the bridge, it's the approach to the bridge that's the problem. 00:41:47
So when the dam. 00:41:52
Around the damn like. 00:41:56
Failure. 00:41:57
It washed out some of the. 00:42:00
Approach the approach. 00:42:02
Yeah, the gravel and. 00:42:05
So I let the approach. 00:42:06
The engineers have looked at it. 00:42:11
Feel like the fill that we. 00:42:13
Put in there. 00:42:15
Should be sufficient to hold that together. 00:42:16
Would the Commissioners be prepared to put a weight limit on that bridge? 00:42:20
Or do they have our one already? 00:42:23
I, I, I can't speak to that right now. 00:42:27
I know that was brought up before. 00:42:31
Difficult to enforce. 00:42:37
And everybody understands that. 00:42:41
The new approach is going to be totally different, yeah. 00:42:43
There should be no curve there. Basically it'll be a straight shot over and. 00:42:45
Higher bridge. 00:42:49
So this bridge current existing bridge floods. The new bridge should be up and out of the floodplain. 00:42:51
One of the main reasons why we. 00:42:57
Needed to go to an emergency, not just. 00:42:59
Time, right? 00:43:03
So we we see a lot of. 00:43:05
People opining that. 00:43:07
They should have replaced that years ago and we all know it's been in the works for. 00:43:09
For years. For years so, and I will note that. 00:43:12
The N dot number for this project is a 2017 number. We we've approached them prior to that. So this has been working a long. 00:43:17
Time There's been a delay due to the environmental review. 00:43:24
That's what I think people don't understand. 00:43:30
Try to limit the. 00:43:34
Costco. 00:43:36
And buying a damaged dam. 00:43:37
Yeah. 00:43:39
All right. Thank you, Nick. 00:43:41
Thank you, Nick. 00:43:46
OK, so I have 3 items on the agenda tonight. The first item is an additional appropriation for our employee payout line. 00:43:52
We had originally passed a budget for 2025 that had a $25,000. 00:43:58
Appropriation in this line and that has been overextended at this point by $7755.20. 00:44:04
And there are a few additional employee payouts that are going to happen through the rest of the year. So for those of you that 00:44:12
are new. 00:44:15
Employee payout occurs. I know I'm pointing to you but. 00:44:19
You're new. 00:44:22
An employee payout occurs when an employee separates employment and they qualify for a payout on their sick time. 00:44:23
Vacation time depending on whether or not their grandfathered into that rule. 00:44:31
And. 00:44:35
Any personal time that they may have it. 00:44:38
Not been able to utilize. 00:44:40
Had. 00:44:43
There are restrictions in place for sick time. 00:44:44
Where you do have to be here for 20 years or more to get paid out 100% of 45 days of sick time. 00:44:48
Vacation time there are no restrictions, however you are supposed to only be allowed to carry. 00:44:54
One week over into the next year. 00:45:00
And if you are a newer employee? 00:45:03
Your payout is much more limited than if you are an older employee. We had an older employee separate employment at the beginning 00:45:06
of this year and they took a very. 00:45:10
Large. 00:45:14
Payout and because we are anticipating some additional payouts throughout the rest of this year, we do need to. 00:45:15
Go ahead and appropriate an additional 25,000 to this line so that we make up the current negative and still have some positive 00:45:21
there for the remainder of the year. 00:45:25
I don't know that I've ever actually seen this line completely. 00:45:29
Expended until now since we instituted pre planning for employee payouts, which is a fairly relative new concept. 00:45:33
You should be reactionary to it. 00:45:40
So this is, this is new, this is new. The first year we appropriated quite a bit more, yes. And as the years have gone by, we've 00:45:44
been able to appropriate less and less, but we took a hit that we were not anticipating during budget season last year. 00:45:49
So normally the $25,000. 00:45:56
Motion to Approve 7 a second. 00:45:58
Motion and 2nd for seven A. Any further discussion? 00:46:01
All in favor say aye. 00:46:05
Aye, any opposed? 00:46:06
That carries. 00:46:08
So 7B is just redesignating into its line the Harris Act funds so that they are once again. 00:46:09
Housed in their separate line away from the rest of the rainy day monies. 00:46:16
And can be utilized if they need to be utilized towards whatever the Council needs that they are utilized towards this year. 00:46:20
We've talked. 00:46:28
But before we get a motion, we've talked about. 00:46:29
Designating this into its fund here for the last. 00:46:32
Couple months? I believe so. 00:46:35
If you all weren't in that initial conversation. 00:46:38
This was housed within Rainy Day. 00:46:41
We just house it in its own line every year so that. 00:46:44
I'm going to make a motion, but I do want to discuss this. 00:46:46
I think a motion for 7B for discussion purposes. 00:46:52
Motion a second. 7B. Go ahead, Denise. 00:46:56
I is. Is this necessary? 00:46:59
Are we going to use this amount? 00:47:05
To find part of the house. 00:47:07
Building or the re or the. 00:47:11
My understanding is that it's necessary to track what's actually left from the CARES Act. 00:47:14
It is something that we all decided as a council. 00:47:20
That you wanted to be able to do. 00:47:23
To track what's remaining, we did decide that in the past. My question is here. It's getting removed to that line. But do we do? 00:47:25
There's no. 00:47:30
There's no state requirement. This is a, this is a county specific decision and, and for me, the reason why we're doing this at 00:47:37
this point and, and. 00:47:42
I might be OK with it is that we want to use this for the health department. 00:47:46
To eat, to do some of the remodeling or to pay down? 00:47:53
Part of the the bond. 00:47:57
But I wanted to make sure that we all understand it. 00:47:58
That's the reason why we're doing this. We don't have to do this, just gives us a better look at. 00:48:01
I will say that Crowe worked their numbers utilized to understanding this amount. 00:48:07
I will let you know that the numbers that Crow is going to bring to you in March. 00:48:11
Include using this amount because of the historical consensus from the County Council from the last few years of dedicating the 00:48:15
remainder of the CARES Act money towards the health department's need. 00:48:20
OK, just as an FYI. 00:48:26
Any further questions or discussion? 00:48:29
All in favor of 7B say aye. 00:48:34
Aye, any opposed? 00:48:36
That carries and then I'm covering for Matt Lorch for an additional appropriation in their interpreter services line in their 1200 00:48:38
fund. 00:48:42
Motion to Approve 7. 00:48:48
Second motion is second for seven C Any questions, discussion. 00:48:50
All in favor say aye aye. 00:48:56
Any opposed? 00:48:58
That carries. 00:49:00
Right, eight. We have Floyd County Council business. 00:49:02
8A is for. 00:49:06
Transfer Ordinance. 00:49:08
The one item on there is. 00:49:10
So. 00:49:19
The motion would be for. 00:49:20
A proven transfers. 00:49:25
Without the 9146. 00:49:27
Transfer. 00:49:30
I'm sorry, 9188. 00:49:32
Motion to approve 8A the. 00:49:37
Ordinance for the February. 00:49:41
Transfers. 00:49:43
Without the. 00:49:45
9188, Thank you. 00:49:49
So we have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion on the transfers that we've gone through tonight? 00:49:54
All in favor say aye. 00:50:02
Any opposed? 00:50:04
That carries. 00:50:06
Bargaining board appointment. 00:50:07
Yeah, just give. 00:50:13
So at the original appointments, at the organizational meeting. 00:50:15
The Council appointed 2 representatives for the bargaining committees. The. 00:50:19
All of the bargaining committees. 00:50:25
There's actually supposed to be 3. 00:50:27
So a third individual needs to be assigned to the bargaining committees for this year, I will tell you. 00:50:29
That I don't believe there's a Sheriff's Department bargaining unit up this year. You may have some conversations with members of 00:50:35
their bargaining unit, but a true actual. 00:50:38
Contract won't be under review this year so if you're looking for a lighter weight appointment. 00:50:43
This would be a good one this year so and it's a way to get your feet wet. 00:50:47
We'll be finishing up the road department and. 00:50:50
Will be the new one is dispatched. You were on it, correct? I'm on it. Mr. Bagshaw, I believe is on it. 00:50:53
So if one of the new members, yeah. Are we opening the floor for nominations for the president? Yeah, I nominate Tony Turing. 00:51:00
You can accept it or not if you'd like. You can define. Yeah. You can decline if you'd like. 00:51:12
I was gonna I think we have one. 00:51:17
Remember that council member that has one committee appointment? 00:51:19
I have two. 00:51:23
You have to as well. 00:51:26
I don't recall. 00:51:28
Oh, OK, well. 00:51:29
Well, OK, I was going to nominate. 00:51:31
Sam Sarkinson. 00:51:34
So I do decline. 00:51:36
For which which committee before? 00:51:38
Bargaining for. 00:51:41
Road departments contract. 00:51:42
And for? 00:51:44
Dispatch for 911. 00:51:46
I don't mind doing the road department. 00:51:48
But I don't know about the district. 00:51:50
You don't know anything about dispatch. 00:51:53
OK, I'll do. 00:51:58
Yeah. 00:51:59
They come as a unit. We usually try to. 00:52:00
All in favor of Sam for. 00:52:03
Aye aye. Any opposed? 00:52:05
I don't know that we have a second. 00:52:08
There wasn't a second. 00:52:11
Carried away there, I didn't want anything to change back out. 00:52:13
AC. 00:52:19
We tabled 8C. Is there any committee report, Jim, anything? 00:52:21
I don't have anything. 00:52:29
It means Matt. 00:52:30
Sam Oh no, I've had enough. 00:52:34
I'm good. 00:52:39
I don't believe I have anything either, just be looking for emails. 00:52:41
Rescheduling with page. 00:52:47
Baker, Tilly. 00:52:49
We talk about dates or we're going to wait for her to let us know when she's available. 00:52:50
At this point, I think we're probably looking at early next week maybe. 00:52:56
Let's let's talk about time of day. We can do that. 00:52:59
Does anybody have a preference? 00:53:02
I heard down here a little bit later in the day we could. 00:53:04
Yeah, I just asked for after one if possible. 00:53:08
Myself. 00:53:12
I'm I'm out of town until next week. 00:53:13
I couldn't do men. 00:53:18
I can, I can. 00:53:21
Well, actually, it's a team immediately. 00:53:23
It was in the afternoon. I don't know if I can. 00:53:25
And we can up to two council members. 00:53:30
Well, we were talking about coming here to see the presentation on the big board, but I'll be out Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday too, 00:53:32
but I can remote in. 00:53:36
I I mean, this is kind of an important one. I'd rather wait. 00:53:41
I'm out the first week of March 1st full week but. 00:53:46
We can, uh. 00:53:49
Can we do the last week in February? 00:53:50
This, I mean, I do think this is going to really impact. 00:53:53
How we move forward with some of the decisions that we're making. 00:53:58
So once paid for flies, let us know, we suggest. 00:54:23
The last week of February and date option I'm showing a joint meeting on the 25th. 00:54:28
At 4:00. 00:54:33
Oh, maybe we should just do it then we do it after that. 00:54:34
Or during it. 00:54:38
Honestly, I think this would be a really good thing for the commissioners to hear as well. I'll, I'll get with Alan, see if 00:54:40
they're OK to sitting in on that. I'm sure they would be. 00:54:45
Work. I work a lot better. 00:54:49
OK. 00:54:53
It starts at 4:00. 00:54:55
Let's pencil it in for now and. 00:54:57
If everybody's OK, then we'll send out a. 00:54:59
Revised. 00:55:02
How long is it? 00:55:03
1520 minutes depending on how many questions we ask and then. 00:55:07
You know, we usually try to cap the joint meeting in an hour. Al tries to be pretty. 00:55:13
Prompt. But we, you know, we may extend it just a little bit for that. 00:55:17
Might be an hour and a half. 00:55:21
Maybe, yeah. 00:55:23
Could be, but yeah, we need to, we need to get this one right and so. 00:55:24
I agree. 00:55:29
Will. 00:55:30
I'll send out a follow up. 00:55:32
When we have it. 00:55:37
Nail down that that sounds. 00:55:39
OK, any other? 00:55:41
Steve's out. 00:55:46
If y'all didn't hear so. 00:55:47
He's got a pretty bad case, so. 00:55:50
Keep him in your thoughts and prayers and. 00:55:52
Too much. 00:55:58
Oh yes. 00:55:59
Anybody from public? 00:56:00
Don't have everybody run to the mic. 00:56:03
I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. So moved. 00:56:04
Say all in favor. 00:56:07
Aye, aye. 00:56:09
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