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	I know these new kids.	00:00:01
	We will call the Floyd County Council meeting to order for Tuesday, February 11th. Please stand for the budget of Allegiance.	00:00:04
	My religions to the flag of the United States of America.	00:00:13
	To the Republic for which it stands.	00:00:17
	Nation and God.	00:00:20
	Thank you. Let the record show that we have a full quorum tonight. Mr. Bagshaw, would you lead us in the prayer, please? Let's	00:00:27
	pray.	00:00:30
	Oh Lord, we thank you today, another day. We thank you for the snow we know.	00:00:34
	We understand that you you know what the Earth needs.	00:00:39
	We thank you for keeping people safe today, we all, and we're always grateful for freedom and liberty that our country affords.	00:00:42
	That we can meet an open meeting like this without fear of retribution.	00:00:49
	Lord, please give us the wisdom and the knowledge to make prudent choices on behalf of the county today.	00:00:54
	Or please be with our first responders.	00:00:59
	And keep them safe as they keep us safe. Be with our.	00:01:03
	Sailors, airmen and.	00:01:07
	Marines and Army today and keep them safe as they defend freedom around the world.	00:01:08
	And all these things we ask in your name, Amen.	00:01:14
	Thank you. Before we move on to the acceptance of the agenda, there are a couple.	00:01:17
	Changes.	00:01:21
	A Judge Granger.	00:01:23
	Would like to table hers.	00:01:26
	Umm, new business 1.	00:01:29
	And.	00:01:31
	There was talk over e-mail of tabling 8C.	00:01:32
	Until we speak with Baker Tilly.	00:01:36
	And the third thing is Mr. Timbery's here to speak to us.	00:01:39
	We're gonna put him on at the very beginning so he can hit the road.	00:01:43
	So.	00:01:47
	If we have a motion.	00:01:49
	With those changes.	00:01:51
	I I do not want to.	00:01:54
	Completely table everything.	00:01:56
	For the public safety available, I think we should.	00:01:59
	Appropriate the amount that we need.	00:02:04
	I don't think we've.	00:02:07
	Advertised for.	00:02:10
	So you would all have to.	00:02:14
	Do we have an appropriation to pay the public?	00:02:23
	Sorry, check.	00:02:28
	Have to be happy.	00:02:29
	Go ahead and pay the contracts.	00:02:31
	No, we have not done any appropriations. However, we pay in the contracts.	00:02:34
	We're we're going to appropriate and appropriate next week.	00:02:41
	OK.	00:03:01
	Oh sure, is this one.	00:03:03
	It's green.	00:03:06
	Appropriations and public safety that fund nor have there been any advertised.	00:03:09
	OK.	00:03:13
	Yeah, OK, OK.	00:03:18
	Fair.	00:03:20
	Yeah, I guess I'm.	00:03:22
	We'd be happy to do a generic appropriation.	00:03:25
	Advertisement.	00:03:28
	For next month, but outside of that.	00:03:30
	You don't know what these.	00:03:33
	Yeah, I think we need.	00:03:39
	I think we need to have an appropriation for the contracts that we're paying.	00:03:41
	OK, that's my unless. Unless is there something that I'm missing?	00:03:49
	OK, Nope. I think you're.	00:03:54
	Right on.	00:03:56
	That's at least what we have to do.	00:03:58
	Yeah, I couldn't understand why we hadn't.	00:04:05
	Done that, but.	00:04:08
	OK.	00:04:10
	Fame there.	00:04:12
	So I'm I'm good.	00:04:15
	Is that is that a motion to approve the agenda with those changes? Yes. OK. Second, we have a motion to 2nd for approval of	00:04:17
	tonight's agenda with.	00:04:21
	Changes that were noted.	00:04:26
	Any discussion?	00:04:28
	All in favor say aye aye.	00:04:29
	Any opposed?	00:04:32
	You're up, Mr. Barry.	00:04:34
	I'm sorry, is there anybody from the public that wish?	00:04:38
	Would like to speak before we get started.	00:04:40
	You're still up. Go ahead.	00:04:43
	Thank you, Mr. President, members of the Council.	00:04:47
	Tim Berry with Crow.	00:04:50
	A couple of things.	00:04:53
	I'm here first.	00:04:55
	On behalf of.	00:04:57
	Some good news.	00:04:59
	In November of this year, we received a call from S&P.	00:05:01
	Wanting to review the bond rating for the county.	00:05:07
	And on short notice.	00:05:10
	At the most inopportune time when property tax collections are taking place.	00:05:13
	We were able to pull together a meeting.	00:05:20
	And I want to thank Commissioner Al Kanable, Councilmember Danny Short.	00:05:22
	Don Blop.	00:05:27
	Diana Topping.	00:05:29
	And we had a conversation with SP in late November.	00:05:31
	They came back at the end of January to affirm.	00:05:35
	Floyd County's rating.	00:05:40
	As an A and to affirm that on a stable basis.	00:05:42
	Said that the economic outlook in Floyd County remains strong.	00:05:47
	The actions that the Council.	00:05:53
	Has made.	00:05:56
	To stabilize live income and lit revenues.	00:05:57
	They commended.	00:06:01
	And and said that your outlook?	00:06:02
	Looked good.	00:06:06
	Moving forward and.	00:06:07
	Maintain that a stable rating.	00:06:09
	On the.	00:06:12
	Bonds that were issued in 2021.	00:06:14
	For Nova.	00:06:17
	So, umm.	00:06:18
	Tim, can I ask a question? Was it, did we have an A rating already? OK. So they maintain the rating. Yes, they maintain the	00:06:19
	rating.	00:06:23
	And during times like this, you know with.	00:06:27
	Some economic instability going on, uncertainties with revenues in many communities, certainly.	00:06:32
	The way Indiana tracks.	00:06:41
	Their audit and their financials on a cash basis instead of.	00:06:44
	On an accrual basis.	00:06:51
	Maintaining an A stable rating is very good.	00:06:53
	Thank you. Now that is on your.	00:06:57
	Backed bonds.	00:07:00
	Your local income tax bonds.	00:07:02
	So wanted to provide that and also wanted to thank the extra efforts.	00:07:04
	Diana went into to.	00:07:11
	It was mostly Diana to get backup documentation and information to provide to them.	00:07:14
	And to affirm that and so.	00:07:22
	I want to thank her and her staff.	00:07:25
	For all of their efforts to to get that accomplished on behalf of the county.	00:07:27
	Also here tonight.	00:07:33
	We had a conversation.	00:07:36
	Last Friday.	00:07:38
	With regards to the timing of the purchase of the Health Department building.	00:07:39
	We would anticipate coming back to you at your March meeting with bond parameters.	00:07:45
	And I just wanted to.	00:07:52
	Introduce that concept here tonight so that everything was prepared for at that time.	00:07:55
	We anticipate or we understand the purchase of the building at approximately $2.2 million.	00:08:02
	There is some cash available to take care of.	00:08:10
	Remodeling and renovation costs.	00:08:16
	That will be utilized for that.	00:08:19
	And there is a little bit that we would anticipate in the bond resolution to include.	00:08:22
	Over and above that.	00:08:28
	For renovation and cost of issuance.	00:08:30
	We're looking to give the county flexibility as you work through what your revenues are and reallocate expenditures.	00:08:33
	Some flexibility on repayment of that.	00:08:44
	We're looking at a five year.	00:08:47
	Band with some options available to the county to either prepaid early if you were in position to do that.	00:08:49
	Um, to.	00:09:00
	Pay interest only through the life of that ban and the option then ultimately if you chose to do so.	00:09:02
	To take that out if you chose not to pay off the ban.	00:09:09
	Either early or at the time of the.	00:09:14
	Conclusion of that ban.	00:09:16
	So that is what we would anticipate bringing back before you at next month's meeting or at the.	00:09:19
	March meeting.	00:09:26
	And just would entertain any questions that you may have or.	00:09:28
	Ensure that that is consistent with what?	00:09:32
	Thoughts are.	00:09:35
	With regards to that prior to.	00:09:36
	The bond resolution.	00:09:39
	What, what kind of rate do you think we'll get on on a ban?	00:09:41
	A5 year ban.	00:09:46
	I can't tell you a rate at this point in time. I will tell you that interest rates are changing.	00:09:48
	Your rates have been.	00:09:55
	Fairly competitive. You've done some bands of recent note.	00:09:56
	Recently.	00:10:01
	They've been all fairly competitive along those lines.	00:10:02
	You've had in the past.	00:10:07
	A lot of interest.	00:10:09
	In your bonds or in your band?	00:10:11
	Which has decreased your cost and your interest costs.	00:10:14
	Accordingly.	00:10:19
	And can you explain to us again why we would do a ban versus going ahead and bonding this right off the bat?	00:10:23
	To provide you some flexibility.	00:10:32
	If you remember.	00:10:35
	The jail originally, yeah, but there was a lot of work to be done on the jail. So that's the reason why I think we did the. But	00:10:38
	yet ultimately you chose to utilize cash and to pay that off without taking out the long-term bond.	00:10:45
	I think some thinking has been based upon feedback that we've received.	00:10:54
	That you may want to be in that same position again.	00:10:59
	On this project.	00:11:03
	And so that would be the advantage of doing the ban.	00:11:06
	Over a short term to provide you the most flexibility.	00:11:10
	To pay that off without penalty.	00:11:14
	And to pay that off early.	00:11:17
	But certainly.	00:11:20
	We can look at it.	00:11:22
	In multiple ways.	00:11:24
	Also gives us flexibility.	00:11:27
	To let other projects.	00:11:29
	Catch up. Umm.	00:11:31
	And possibly bond together.	00:11:33
	That is correct.	00:11:35
	Now that.	00:11:38
	It's just.	00:11:40
	It's yes. It's that word flexibility. It gives us options.	00:11:42
	Not saying that it won't go to a bond.	00:11:47
	That's I would imagine the interest rates on the band are.	00:11:49
	More than interest rate on the bot.	00:11:56
	Would be.	00:11:58
	I guess that's where maybe I was thinking coming from is that if you're looking at a long term ban or bond, bond.	00:12:00
	Yeah, if you're looking at a long term, yes.	00:12:07
	They are a little bit, but not that much different.	00:12:11
	Because of the interest rate environment that we are in.	00:12:14
	Umm, and it all depends on on structuring as well.	00:12:18
	If you are looking to only pay interest.	00:12:25
	Versus to pay some principal and interest during the life of the bank.	00:12:28
	OK.	00:12:34
	I mean.	00:12:38
	I'm I'm kind of wanting to look at both banding and bonding.	00:12:41
	I kind of do want to look at both options.	00:12:46
	Does that make sense to everybody?	00:12:49
	Yeah, and that's kind of why we lifted.	00:12:51
	OK with that option.	00:12:53
	I will say and I have not had a chance to review closely, so I want to be able to do that and I don't want to speak incorrectly.	00:12:56
	But I know there were some amendments to Senate Bill 1 today.	00:13:06
	That might impact.	00:13:11
	General obligation bonds.	00:13:16
	So I want to review that before I advise what What's the possible change that could have happened? I want to advise first. I want	00:13:19
	to review an advice first.	00:13:23
	There's lots. There's a lot going on. I know there's a lot going on.	00:13:28
	Good news is they didn't pull out.	00:13:32
	Much of what was there impacting the amount of revenue that you would be able to?	00:13:35
	Realize.	00:13:40
	So the revenue hit to local governments will not be as severe.	00:13:42
	As initially.	00:13:47
	Provided it got chopped pretty good today.	00:13:48
	Amendment amendments hit pretty hard.	00:13:51
	So.	00:13:54
	And that's why I want to look at all those amendments.	00:13:56
	To review that.	00:14:00
	But you will be presenting both a band and a bond situation.	00:14:01
	You will be approving maximum parameters.	00:14:05
	So it's going to be on a band.	00:14:10
	Regardless of whether we bonded or not until the projects.	00:14:12
	Ready to bond?	00:14:16
	But this?	00:14:19
	We'll have time to figure out.	00:14:21
	If we if we lump together, if we go straight.	00:14:24
	Or if we pay off.	00:14:27
	So we're, we're, we've already made the decision today.	00:14:28
	No.	00:14:31
	We still have to.	00:14:32
	But you're going to be on a band for a while before.	00:14:35
	Bonds are issued so.	00:14:39
	We have to be on a band to complete the purchase.	00:14:41
	I think the question was would you issue up?	00:14:45
	Ban or a bond immediately. Yes, yes and I think the question.	00:14:47
	And that's where I was asking what the preference of was the council and I thought I heard.	00:14:52
	A ban at this point in time.	00:14:57
	You could always do a five year bond or A5 year ban.	00:15:02
	Or if you're looking to extend that out.	00:15:08
	Longer term, that the flexibility in the band gives you the option to convert.	00:15:12
	It gives you the option to pay interest only.	00:15:17
	It gives the option to make payments or makes.	00:15:19
	I think we need that right now until we figure out.	00:15:22
	Some other things going on downtown.	00:15:26
	I think it gives you the flexibility for all projects in the future. It also gives you the flexibility to better understand.	00:15:31
	The impact of the reallocation of the lit dollars into the budget.	00:15:38
	And what impact that will do to?	00:15:45
	Potentially provide you dollars.	00:15:49
	I've done some work and it and it appears to me that.	00:15:52
	If we do.	00:15:56
	A 25 year ban that.	00:15:58
	The health department has the money to pay for at least.	00:16:01
	Half of that.	00:16:06
	Now depends on what happens in the General Assembly, or does depend on what happens.	00:16:07
	It really does. So there is a lot.	00:16:12
	Of based on information that we received from legal counsel.	00:16:16
	Dollars are limited at.	00:16:22
	As to what can be spent from health department funds?	00:16:24
	Based upon the source there is, yes, it's very limited. It's $87,000.	00:16:28
	Is what they have to spend on an annual basis.	00:16:33
	We know those numbers.	00:16:36
	So if you do.	00:16:38
	Long term.	00:16:39
	25 year.	00:16:41
	Bond at.	00:16:43
	6%, which I would think you could get back.	00:16:45
	A much better rate than that.	00:16:48
	But it's $187,000, so they can pay nearly half of.	00:16:50
	That.	00:16:56
	Based on the current situation.	00:16:58
	Now, is that situation going to continue?	00:17:00
	I don't know.	00:17:03
	That's why I'm looking at.	00:17:04
	A bond versus a band because.	00:17:07
	I think they have the opportunity to pay well. We discussed a lot of this.	00:17:10
	Repayment that does not change repayment.	00:17:14
	But we just, we discussed a lot of the same options when we were talking about.	00:17:17
	The jail on how we wanted to proceed and.	00:17:20
	You know.	00:17:23
	If you put a 25 year bond on that.	00:17:24
	It's doable, but.	00:17:27
	1215 years you're.	00:17:30
	You're gonna redo that building in some form or fashion. It may not cost as much as it does now.	00:17:32
	But there's going to be upkeep and.	00:17:36
	Rehab and new equipment and.	00:17:39
	Whatever, uh.	00:17:41
	So.	00:17:43
	And while you would be potentially using other funds to make that payment.	00:17:45
	You would be pledging in your bond documents.	00:17:51
	The general obligation of the county.	00:17:56
	Sure, sure, I understand.	00:17:58
	Understand that.	00:18:00
	OK.	00:18:05
	I don't.	00:18:07
	Is everybody on board with the band versus upon?	00:18:09
	Listen, looking back, I voted.	00:18:12
	To pay off the jail.	00:18:15
	I'm not sure I would make that tank both.	00:18:17
	Again.	00:18:19
	So I'll just say that.	00:18:20
	So to use that.	00:18:23
	Analogy. Or use that.	00:18:25
	History is I don't, I don't know.	00:18:27
	I I guess my point would be that.	00:18:31
	This at least offers us the flexibility because there are still a lot of unknowns.	00:18:33
	Yeah, right.	00:18:38
	And what I really don't want to get into is we're in a situation where we're locked into something and then we have to deal with	00:18:39
	that something else comes along. This gives us the flexibility to be able to deal with things as they come along. OK, a little	00:18:45
	more. I do like the flexibility of it. I mean, I think we could get a bond.	00:18:50
	That would allow us to pay it off.	00:18:56
	Five in five years I think we could.	00:18:59
	I think we could.	00:19:03
	Right.	00:19:04
	An early payment bond.	00:19:06
	That would cost you.	00:19:09
	If you were to do that.	00:19:11
	It costs for the flexibility of that. Yeah, yes. So OK, OK, enough said. If band is the way we everyone thinks we should go.	00:19:13
	Are you going to send more information to us before the March?	00:19:22
	You will getting or with the documents, the legal documents that will have all of the maximum parameters and we'll have some	00:19:28
	documentation attached to that. You might have anything else for Mr. Barry.	00:19:33
	Thank you very much.	00:19:39
	Thank you.	00:19:40
	Thank you.	00:19:42
	Point of order, Mr. Chairman. We didn't approve minutes.	00:19:44
	You are correct.	00:19:47
	Accept the minutes.	00:19:50
	1/14/24.	00:19:52
	25 organizational meeting minutes.	00:19:54
	And the 1142025 meeting minutes.	00:19:56
	2nd, we have a motion and 2nd for approval of those minutes. Any discussion on those?	00:20:00
	All in favor say aye aye.	00:20:06
	I abstain.	00:20:08
	Understood.	00:20:11
	That passes. Thank you for bringing that up.	00:20:12
	Miss Diana Topping for.	00:20:16
	Yes.	00:20:21
	So I'm covering for Charlotte Bass this evening.	00:20:23
	You have.	00:20:26
	Additional appropriations.	00:20:29
	That are being requested. So out of the 8906 fund she's requesting $2249.82 and that is to cover some.	00:20:31
	Increased costs and supplies.	00:20:40
	Motion to approve 2A.	00:20:45
	Second, as advertised, we have a motion a second for 2A. Any discussion?	00:20:47
	All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed?	00:20:52
	That carries.	00:20:55
	And we so in her 9150 fund.	00:20:57
	Because that fund covers the cost for her employee that gets paid out of there. It covers the entire cost, including.	00:21:01
	The employers portion of health insurance, so she's requesting an additional appropriation of $9000 in her health insurance line	00:21:08
	in that fund.	00:21:11
	Motion to approve to be as advertised.	00:21:16
	2nd we have a motion and a second for 2B.	00:21:19
	Any discussion or questions?	00:21:21
	All in favor say aye.	00:21:24
	Aye, any opposed?	00:21:26
	That carries two seed.	00:21:27
	9273 or an additional request for $3318.36. This is just to cover some contractual employee costs.	00:21:29
	Move to approve to see.	00:21:38
	Second motion and a second for to see any discussion.	00:21:40
	All in favor say aye. Opposed.	00:21:46
	That carries.	00:21:49
	2D2 D is out of the 1161. It's an additional appropriation. These are, this is these are monies that are a commitment towards the	00:21:51
	cost of the new building. So it's $72,671.90. So this is an additional appropriation, moving those funds into a line so they can	00:21:57
	actually be spent towards do you know what that's for?	00:22:03
	I'm sorry, you know what it's for.	00:22:09
	Specifically an Albany building quite literally listed as commitment towards the cost of the new building. I believe this is the	00:22:11
	amount that they are allowed to contribute from the 1161 towards.	00:22:16
	Potential renovations and purchase of that new building.	00:22:21
	And it has to be appropriated so that it can be utilized.	00:22:25
	She's kind of getting ahead of the game.	00:22:28
	She's being prepared and pledging it this year.	00:22:29
	OK, motion to approve.	00:22:34
	2D as advertising.	00:22:37
	Second, have a motion and a second for 2D. Any further discussion?	00:22:39
	All in favor say aye.	00:22:44
	Any opposed?	00:22:46
	Carries.	00:22:48
	Stan.	00:22:51
	This is the follow up for the appropriations for.	00:22:58
	Engineering study to have the water pipes moved over the IT room.	00:23:02
	This is the this third month in a row.	00:23:11
	I believe it is December, January and February.	00:23:13
	We have a motion. We do have a.	00:23:19
	Portion of the engineering study that's been provided to the sheriff.	00:23:21
	He's going to review the options. Take a look at it.	00:23:25
	I think he's go his plans are discussed with the commissioners to see if it's a viable plan.	00:23:28
	Once they decide on which play, if it is a viable plan, they're going to submit.	00:23:33
	Back to Kurt.	00:23:38
	Her garlic and they're going to send out the RFP's to solicit.	00:23:40
	The bidding process so.	00:23:45
	Do we have a motion for 3A?	00:23:50
	Is this part of the?	00:23:54
	I'll make them up. I'll make a motion so we can discuss. Motion to approve 3A.	00:23:57
	Second motion is second. Go ahead, Sam. Is this part of the?	00:24:02
	50,000 that was appropriated back.	00:24:05
	Yeah, it was. This was the 50,000 that we never got obligated. So we came back in January, had it reappropriated so that we can	00:24:08
	move forward with the study.	00:24:13
	So yes, it is and and we worked with the.	00:24:18
	Previous building.	00:24:22
	Authority Commissioner.	00:24:25
	To try to.	00:24:27
	Determine a cost. Chuck advised that it was going to run at least 50,000.	00:24:28
	We did. We have been working with Donnie. Donnie Hair.	00:24:32
	And he has found a couple of options with engineers who could provide us.	00:24:36
	Exactly what we need with the study itself to send out solicit RFPs so.	00:24:41
	Heading obviously half the price.	00:24:46
	The actual cost?	00:24:51
	That we've incurred so far is about 20 to 5 I believe. So this is the 25 is just to encompass any additional costs that may.	00:24:53
	Hit that we we didn't originally account for.	00:25:03
	So.	00:25:06
	But Stan, this is just the study. This is not the actual work. This is just the engineering study.	00:25:08
	And there's no working drawing or specifications for $25,000.	00:25:14
	Or three pipes. I just don't understand that. I mean.	00:25:18
	Chairman, I've talked about that many times.	00:25:22
	Yeah, I don't understand. Maybe I'm just ignorant. I'm not an engineer, but that seems like a.	00:25:25
	To say, yeah, look up and say, yeah, you can't move those three times, it's not necessary.	00:25:30
	Not necessarily the pipes, Mr. Banks. So it's it's the equipment that sits under the pipes. It's a couple $1,000,000 worth of	00:25:34
	equipment. So we just moving 3 pipes.	00:25:39
	Equipment, uh.	00:25:44
	Is and I've said numerous times, Hussey Mechanical was.	00:25:45
	That building for decades.	00:25:52
	And they probably have engineers on staff.	00:25:54
	That would move three pipes.	00:25:57
	I don't understand.	00:25:59
	Building authorities.	00:26:00
	Dishonest, but.	00:26:02
	And we all recognize it could be a disaster if all that.	00:26:04
	IT equipment gets water on. It's an absolute disaster. We understand that clearly this.	00:26:08
	But umm.	00:26:13
	And.	00:26:17
	I'm not a I won't use Diana's favorite saying about myself, but I just I don't understand why it just have a study to say Yeah,	00:26:18
	you need.	00:26:22
	Well, I can tell you that.	00:26:27
	We need to move the pipes.	00:26:31
	For $25,000, I'd like to think we got working drawings with specifications of how it's going to be done.	00:26:32
	So now they're going to come back with another.	00:26:39
	Be for.	00:26:41
	Working drawings and specifications, I think, I think the plan is, if I understood you correctly, was to take the information that	00:26:43
	you have and be able to put out an RFP based off that.	00:26:48
	Yes, OK.	00:26:53
	Show garage specifications.	00:26:55
	Yes.	00:26:58
	Well, this is the issue.	00:27:00
	Brought up last time, I just kind of wondered with the commissary funds, the amount of.	00:27:01
	Funds they have available there.	00:27:06
	The Sheriff's Department couldn't pick this up.	00:27:08
	At least this portion of it.	00:27:11
	And we got.	00:27:13
	A partial listing of some of those.	00:27:14
	Revenues, expenses, we didn't get the full one first.	00:27:17
	Yes, you're all just not going to give it to us even though we asked nicely.	00:27:21
	Not going to give it to us.	00:27:25
	Yes. No.	00:27:27
	I'm asking you to stand.	00:27:29
	What exactly? I sent the e-mail, I followed up with you and I said.	00:27:30
	The same listing that we got a year ago.	00:27:34
	All the credit card detail and all that because you can't tell.	00:27:37
	What these sixteen $17,000 credit card spends is our per month.	00:27:40
	There's no detail to it.	00:27:45
	You're only going to. You just decide you're not going to give it to us.	00:27:46
	I did not make that decision. Well, I've asked for it and there was no response.	00:27:50
	So that's a number.	00:27:54
	We don't have in our.	00:27:56
	Can you send me last year's and I'll be glad that we're.	00:27:59
	I sent it. It's in the. It's in the listing I forwarded from last year. I took the exact e-mail from the.	00:28:02
	Year with that information.	00:28:08
	There's a breakdown of the detail of the credit card expenses you all provided to us.	00:28:10
	I'll be glad.	00:28:15
	I think I sent you everything that we were supposed to send.	00:28:17
	No, you didn't. OK.	00:28:21
	Is there any further discussion here? We're going to.	00:28:27
	We good.	00:28:31
	All right, we have a motion and a second for.	00:28:33
	3/8.	00:28:36
	All in favor say aye.	00:28:37
	Aye aye, opposed.	00:28:39
	That carries.	00:28:42
	Thanks. Thank you.	00:28:43
	Anybody here for Kent?	00:28:46
	Yes, Sir. Mr. President, Tammy called today and asked if I would.	00:28:47
	Represent a.	00:28:51
	For a they are appropriating 2024 funds to 2025.	00:28:53
	So, umm.	00:28:59
	With that in mind, I'd move that for a be approved.	00:29:01
	Tag it motion a second for 4A.	00:29:04
	Any discussion?	00:29:07
	All in favor say aye.	00:29:10
	Aye, any opposed?	00:29:12
	That carries.	00:29:14
	Your rights?	00:29:17
	Community Corrections received a 8 odd grant.	00:29:26
	I'm asking the money be appropriated so I can purchase drug test supplies.	00:29:28
	Motion to Approve 5.	00:29:33
	As sacrificed, I'll second.	00:29:35
	Have motion a second for 5A any.	00:29:37
	Questions for Darius.	00:29:39
	All in favor say aye.	00:29:42
	Aye, any opposed?	00:29:44
	That carries.	00:29:46
	Community Corrections is asking to move drug testing supply money to professional services.	00:29:48
	A transfer of money.	00:29:53
	This is an ideal.	00:29:54
	Motion to approve 5B.	00:29:58
	Sure, have a motion and 2nd for 5B.	00:30:00
	Any discussion?	00:30:03
	All in favor say aye aye.	00:30:05
	Any opposed?	00:30:08
	That carries. Thank you. Thanks.	00:30:09
	Mr. Nick Creevy.	00:30:11
	Model through this again.	00:30:17
	So the first one is a 1135 fund.	00:30:19
	This is a reappropriation.	00:30:23
	Of 97,500 this might not encumbered last year.	00:30:25
	This is for bridge 27.	00:30:29
	The engineering.	00:30:32
	For that.	00:30:34
	We hope to use that to apply for some grant funds later this year.	00:30:35
	Place that bridge.	00:30:40
	Where is bridge 27?	00:30:43
	It's out West of Greenville or Georgetown.	00:30:46
	I can't. I can't you know what wrote a trial. I think it's.	00:30:53
	But I'd have to.	00:30:57
	You're not. I'm not familiar with all the numbers yet other than bridge 51.	00:31:01
	Bridge 51 has its own Facebook page now. That's nice.	00:31:12
	This this works.	00:31:15
	This was one of the bridges set for.	00:31:17
	Replacement in the annual bridge inspection.	00:31:19
	I was just curious.	00:31:24
	I'll look into it now.	00:31:31
	So did you say there's a grant? This is for a matching grant.	00:31:32
	Community Crossings grant.	00:31:40
	Is that in jeopardy at all? The community crossings grant stuff.	00:31:42
	With all the legislation.	00:31:46
	Yeah, I don't know what they're short answer is yes, it's all these. That's what I find it will.	00:31:49
	From what I hear, probably not go away but be revised.	00:31:56
	You know, so it's been a good program for us. We.	00:32:01
	Yeah, the county has Utah.	00:32:03
	It every year, in fact, yeah.	00:32:05
	Yeah, I mean.	00:32:07
	And and and so I guess my.	00:32:09
	Follow up question then is.	00:32:12
	Do you go ahead with this? No.	00:32:14
	The bridge needs to be replaced. We need to do.	00:32:16
	But we're gonna have to.	00:32:20
	We may have come up with.	00:32:21
	All the money, you know.	00:32:23
	This this this portion.	00:32:24
	It's we're paying locally for that.	00:32:27
	It's the implementation that we're seeking.	00:32:31
	Yeah, this, this is the.	00:32:34
	Initial, umm.	00:32:35
	Work that has to be done before.	00:32:36
	And then we go.	00:32:38
	Tried to get the grant forth.	00:32:39
	OK, OK.	00:32:41
	Moved to approve. 6A is advertised.	00:32:44
	We got into discussion before that, sorry. Yeah. So we have a motion. Is there a second?	00:32:46
	Oh, second.	00:32:53
	We have a motion a second for 6A. Any further discussion?	00:32:54
	All in favor say aye. Any opposed?	00:32:58
	That carries.	00:33:02
	B is an appropriation from 1173. This is also.	00:33:04
	Matching Grant.	00:33:12
	This is for our awarded amount.	00:33:13
	This is the local.	00:33:16
	For that amount.	00:33:17
	Oh, so this was already awarded?	00:33:18
	While we we had the con.	00:33:20
	We've been awarded by the state. We had the, we set the bids. We reopened those last week at the.	00:33:22
	Contract.	00:33:29
	Motion to approve 6B as advertised. Second motion and a second for 6B any.	00:33:31
	Discussion. Hopefully they won't yank.	00:33:38
	Get out of things that are only in progress. Yeah, I think anything they're going to do now would be.	00:33:41
	Effect next year there.	00:33:46
	All in favor, Are you ready?	00:33:47
	Were you OK? All in favor of 6B? Say aye aye. Any opposed?	00:33:50
	That one carries.	00:33:55
	Item C is.	00:33:57
	From Fund 1176.	00:33:59
	This is for the salt water.	00:34:01
	The work department recently.	00:34:04
	And ordered 2000 tons.	00:34:07
	Solitary punish.	00:34:09
	Motion to approve 6C as advertised. Second motion a second for 6C. Any questions or discussion? How are we doing on our Sol?	00:34:11
	I will have to check for what we just did.	00:34:21
	Today and last night.	00:34:24
	But we we have good stores.	00:34:26
	Now this is for delivery for.	00:34:28
	The next order that we we came into this.	00:34:32
	Winter in really good shape and we have a minimum that we need.	00:34:35
	And purchase to get the good rate so.	00:34:38
	No that I was just curious where we stand.	00:34:40
	Any further discussion?	00:34:44
	All in favor of 6C say aye aye. Any opposed?	00:34:46
	That carries.	00:34:50
	D item D is from.	00:34:53
	9112 This is a reimbursement.	00:34:55
	For.	00:34:58
	A developer fee.	00:34:59
	Traffic impact study.	00:35:01
	Project that.	00:35:03
	Motion to approve 6D as advertised.	00:35:05
	Second motion and a second for 60 Any questions or discussion?	00:35:08
	All in favor say aye aye.	00:35:14
	Any opposed?	00:35:16
	That carries.	00:35:17
	All right, Item E.	00:35:19
	19124.	00:35:21
	He said for several grants.	00:35:24
	The Caesar Foundation or Grant Local.	00:35:27
	Community Grant.	00:35:34
	Indiana Economic Development Grant.	00:35:37
	Total 400 and three 683.	00:35:40
	50 So these are for projects that the regional community park and.	00:35:43
	You make my move.	00:35:47
	Motion to Approve 6.	00:35:51
	E as advertised.	00:35:52
	Motion and a second for 6E.	00:35:55
	Any discussion?	00:35:57
	I have a question.	00:35:58
	Why is the park money going into?	00:36:00
	The commissioners grant Why wouldn't you go into the parks?	00:36:05
	It's for Nova Park, correct?	00:36:10
	Oh, it's for Noah Park.	00:36:11
	No, the Caesar Foundation Park Green.	00:36:13
	Is for the Regional Park.	00:36:15
	Regional market.	00:36:16
	Oh, it's for the Regional Park.	00:36:17
	OK.	00:36:20
	Perfect, perfect.	00:36:22
	Good answer.	00:36:25
	All right, any further discussion?	00:36:27
	All in favor 6 E say aye.	00:36:30
	Aye, any opposed?	00:36:32
	That carries.	00:36:34
	Onto F.	00:36:35
	Item F is from 9130.	00:36:38
	So this is for Community and economic development projects 160.	00:36:44
	1000 and the bridge with.	00:36:48
	Right away. Rumors, man.	00:36:50
	Underneath.	00:36:51
	400.	00:36:53
	The Community and economic development projects are grants for.	00:36:54
	Rural transit.	00:36:59
	Transit grant and IADC programming grant and the ready to.	00:37:00
	.0 grand for the.	00:37:05
	The editorial board.	00:37:07
	Motion to Approve 6.	00:37:09
	Second motion in the second for 6F any discussion?	00:37:12
	All in favor say aye.	00:37:17
	Aye.	00:37:19
	Opposed.	00:37:20
	Carries finally.	00:37:21
	G is a joint resolution you should have.	00:37:24
	Copy of the original.	00:37:27
	This is.	00:37:32
	For a joint resolution.	00:37:33
	To transfer a parcel.	00:37:35
	Property to.	00:37:37
	The town of Georgetown.	00:37:38
	Ready here from Georgetown is here.	00:37:40
	Described it a little bit more.	00:37:43
	Thank you, Councillor Jamie Randy Keener, Towel Manager, Town Georgetown SO.	00:37:47
	The property in question is a small easement parcel located on Georgetown Lanesville Rd.	00:37:51
	Between the railroad trestle and the first bridge you come to as you cross Georgetown until.	00:37:58
	The town the last couple years have purchased all the.	00:38:03
	Properties from.	00:38:07
	The Georgetown softball field of Georgetown.	00:38:08
	To Georgetown Lanes already, So this is the last property that we need to acquire all the land.	00:38:11
	Within that space.	00:38:17
	What we plan to do with it, some of it's going to be green space.	00:38:19
	But we also wish to move Lois Lane from.	00:38:22
	Going right along the road trestle.	00:38:26
	And move it out so that fire trucks and school buses can get in and service. So not only the park, but the residents who live on	00:38:28
	Wilson Whisperer.	00:38:31
	Motion to approve 6G.	00:38:36
	That's advertising.	00:38:39
	2nd, we have a motion and a second for 6G. Any further questions or discussion? You said this was?	00:38:40
	I heard you say easement and you said parcel, so is that?	00:38:47
	How much property is involved with this? I'm just curious.	00:38:51
	Parcel is.	00:38:58
	Very small parcel, it's enough.	00:39:00
	Available right away, right along the road.	00:39:02
	Alley tracks.	00:39:05
	All right, sort of talking to Edgar training.	00:39:09
	That's why I was curious, because I didn't see anything.	00:39:11
	Any further discussion?	00:39:18
	All in favor of 6G say aye.	00:39:21
	Aye, any opposed?	00:39:23
	Nick, you've got a ways to go to get to Mr. Law on your.	00:39:27
	He's got a skulls disease before.	00:39:33
	Is it? Is it possible to get an update on bridge 51?	00:39:37
	Tell us what you know.	00:39:44
	So.	00:39:45
	Bridge 51 continues to be closed.	00:39:46
	Due to the dam failure.	00:39:49
	And not the condition of the deck or anything else. This was privately owned dam.	00:39:52
	We are in the process.	00:39:58
	Acquiring that dam for the project.	00:39:59
	The owner of the dam.	00:40:02
	Did not agree with our appraisal.	00:40:04
	Process.	00:40:08
	When the failed, fail.	00:40:09
	We continue that process now that is in the court they have.	00:40:11
	Pointed appraisers.	00:40:16
	And we're working through that.	00:40:18
	Regulated process.	00:40:19
	We do still anticipate that the right away.	00:40:21
	Acquisition phase will be completed.	00:40:25
	By the end of March, which will set the timeline for the construction, letting the.	00:40:27
	Contract, uh.	00:40:33
	For the.	00:40:34
	September and SO started work.	00:40:37
	Likely.	00:40:41
	This year, early next year, we are trying to get.	00:40:43
	That lighting date moved up.	00:40:46
	But we're working with federal regulations as administrator with.	00:40:48
	That so.	00:40:52
	Kind of get that.	00:40:55
	Do you have any hope that we're gonna be able to open the old bridge back up so.	00:40:56
	The County Road department has.	00:41:01
	Put some fill.	00:41:03
	In our.	00:41:04
	Engineering Consultant.	00:41:07
	Wants to see.	00:41:09
	The water.	00:41:11
	Ways and then go back down South, they can see what the impact of that was before that they're willing to kind of sign off on	00:41:13
	opening the bridge back up. We would like to be able to get the rail.	00:41:18
	Up as well and open it fully.	00:41:23
	There is an option that it might be reduced.	00:41:25
	A reduced line opening if we cannot do that.	00:41:31
	We are working on that.	00:41:35
	Some of it will be dependent on.	00:41:36
	Water level.	00:41:40
	Agreeing with us and so our engineers can look at it.	00:41:43
	And from what I understand, it's not the bridge, it's the approach to the bridge that's the problem.	00:41:47
	So when the dam.	00:41:52
	Around the damn like.	00:41:56
	Failure.	00:41:57
	It washed out some of the.	00:42:00
	Approach the approach.	00:42:02
	Yeah, the gravel and.	00:42:05
	So I let the approach.	00:42:06
	The engineers have looked at it.	00:42:11
	Feel like the fill that we.	00:42:13
	Put in there.	00:42:15
	Should be sufficient to hold that together.	00:42:16
	Would the Commissioners be prepared to put a weight limit on that bridge?	00:42:20
	Or do they have our one already?	00:42:23
	I, I, I can't speak to that right now.	00:42:27
	I know that was brought up before.	00:42:31
	Difficult to enforce.	00:42:37
	And everybody understands that.	00:42:41
	The new approach is going to be totally different, yeah.	00:42:43
	There should be no curve there. Basically it'll be a straight shot over and.	00:42:45
	Higher bridge.	00:42:49
	So this bridge current existing bridge floods. The new bridge should be up and out of the floodplain.	00:42:51
	One of the main reasons why we.	00:42:57
	Needed to go to an emergency, not just.	00:42:59
	Time, right?	00:43:03
	So we we see a lot of.	00:43:05
	People opining that.	00:43:07
	They should have replaced that years ago and we all know it's been in the works for.	00:43:09
	For years. For years so, and I will note that.	00:43:12
	The N dot number for this project is a 2017 number. We we've approached them prior to that. So this has been working a long.	00:43:17
	Time There's been a delay due to the environmental review.	00:43:24
	That's what I think people don't understand.	00:43:30
	Try to limit the.	00:43:34
	Costco.	00:43:36
	And buying a damaged dam.	00:43:37
	Yeah.	00:43:39
	All right. Thank you, Nick.	00:43:41
	Thank you, Nick.	00:43:46
	OK, so I have 3 items on the agenda tonight. The first item is an additional appropriation for our employee payout line.	00:43:52
	We had originally passed a budget for 2025 that had a $25,000.	00:43:58
	Appropriation in this line and that has been overextended at this point by $7755.20.	00:44:04
	And there are a few additional employee payouts that are going to happen through the rest of the year. So for those of you that	00:44:12
	are new.	00:44:15
	Employee payout occurs. I know I'm pointing to you but.	00:44:19
	You're new.	00:44:22
	An employee payout occurs when an employee separates employment and they qualify for a payout on their sick time.	00:44:23
	Vacation time depending on whether or not their grandfathered into that rule.	00:44:31
	And.	00:44:35
	Any personal time that they may have it.	00:44:38
	Not been able to utilize.	00:44:40
	Had.	00:44:43
	There are restrictions in place for sick time.	00:44:44
	Where you do have to be here for 20 years or more to get paid out 100% of 45 days of sick time.	00:44:48
	Vacation time there are no restrictions, however you are supposed to only be allowed to carry.	00:44:54
	One week over into the next year.	00:45:00
	And if you are a newer employee?	00:45:03
	Your payout is much more limited than if you are an older employee. We had an older employee separate employment at the beginning	00:45:06
	of this year and they took a very.	00:45:10
	Large.	00:45:14
	Payout and because we are anticipating some additional payouts throughout the rest of this year, we do need to.	00:45:15
	Go ahead and appropriate an additional 25,000 to this line so that we make up the current negative and still have some positive	00:45:21
	there for the remainder of the year.	00:45:25
	I don't know that I've ever actually seen this line completely.	00:45:29
	Expended until now since we instituted pre planning for employee payouts, which is a fairly relative new concept.	00:45:33
	You should be reactionary to it.	00:45:40
	So this is, this is new, this is new. The first year we appropriated quite a bit more, yes. And as the years have gone by, we've	00:45:44
	been able to appropriate less and less, but we took a hit that we were not anticipating during budget season last year.	00:45:49
	So normally the $25,000.	00:45:56
	Motion to Approve 7 a second.	00:45:58
	Motion and 2nd for seven A. Any further discussion?	00:46:01
	All in favor say aye.	00:46:05
	Aye, any opposed?	00:46:06
	That carries.	00:46:08
	So 7B is just redesignating into its line the Harris Act funds so that they are once again.	00:46:09
	Housed in their separate line away from the rest of the rainy day monies.	00:46:16
	And can be utilized if they need to be utilized towards whatever the Council needs that they are utilized towards this year.	00:46:20
	We've talked.	00:46:28
	But before we get a motion, we've talked about.	00:46:29
	Designating this into its fund here for the last.	00:46:32
	Couple months? I believe so.	00:46:35
	If you all weren't in that initial conversation.	00:46:38
	This was housed within Rainy Day.	00:46:41
	We just house it in its own line every year so that.	00:46:44
	I'm going to make a motion, but I do want to discuss this.	00:46:46
	I think a motion for 7B for discussion purposes.	00:46:52
	Motion a second. 7B. Go ahead, Denise.	00:46:56
	I is. Is this necessary?	00:46:59
	Are we going to use this amount?	00:47:05
	To find part of the house.	00:47:07
	Building or the re or the.	00:47:11
	My understanding is that it's necessary to track what's actually left from the CARES Act.	00:47:14
	It is something that we all decided as a council.	00:47:20
	That you wanted to be able to do.	00:47:23
	To track what's remaining, we did decide that in the past. My question is here. It's getting removed to that line. But do we do?	00:47:25
	There's no.	00:47:30
	There's no state requirement. This is a, this is a county specific decision and, and for me, the reason why we're doing this at	00:47:37
	this point and, and.	00:47:42
	I might be OK with it is that we want to use this for the health department.	00:47:46
	To eat, to do some of the remodeling or to pay down?	00:47:53
	Part of the the bond.	00:47:57
	But I wanted to make sure that we all understand it.	00:47:58
	That's the reason why we're doing this. We don't have to do this, just gives us a better look at.	00:48:01
	I will say that Crowe worked their numbers utilized to understanding this amount.	00:48:07
	I will let you know that the numbers that Crow is going to bring to you in March.	00:48:11
	Include using this amount because of the historical consensus from the County Council from the last few years of dedicating the	00:48:15
	remainder of the CARES Act money towards the health department's need.	00:48:20
	OK, just as an FYI.	00:48:26
	Any further questions or discussion?	00:48:29
	All in favor of 7B say aye.	00:48:34
	Aye, any opposed?	00:48:36
	That carries and then I'm covering for Matt Lorch for an additional appropriation in their interpreter services line in their 1200	00:48:38
	fund.	00:48:42
	Motion to Approve 7.	00:48:48
	Second motion is second for seven C Any questions, discussion.	00:48:50
	All in favor say aye aye.	00:48:56
	Any opposed?	00:48:58
	That carries.	00:49:00
	Right, eight. We have Floyd County Council business.	00:49:02
	8A is for.	00:49:06
	Transfer Ordinance.	00:49:08
	The one item on there is.	00:49:10
	So.	00:49:19
	The motion would be for.	00:49:20
	A proven transfers.	00:49:25
	Without the 9146.	00:49:27
	Transfer.	00:49:30
	I'm sorry, 9188.	00:49:32
	Motion to approve 8A the.	00:49:37
	Ordinance for the February.	00:49:41
	Transfers.	00:49:43
	Without the.	00:49:45
	9188, Thank you.	00:49:49
	So we have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion on the transfers that we've gone through tonight?	00:49:54
	All in favor say aye.	00:50:02
	Any opposed?	00:50:04
	That carries.	00:50:06
	Bargaining board appointment.	00:50:07
	Yeah, just give.	00:50:13
	So at the original appointments, at the organizational meeting.	00:50:15
	The Council appointed 2 representatives for the bargaining committees. The.	00:50:19
	All of the bargaining committees.	00:50:25
	There's actually supposed to be 3.	00:50:27
	So a third individual needs to be assigned to the bargaining committees for this year, I will tell you.	00:50:29
	That I don't believe there's a Sheriff's Department bargaining unit up this year. You may have some conversations with members of	00:50:35
	their bargaining unit, but a true actual.	00:50:38
	Contract won't be under review this year so if you're looking for a lighter weight appointment.	00:50:43
	This would be a good one this year so and it's a way to get your feet wet.	00:50:47
	We'll be finishing up the road department and.	00:50:50
	Will be the new one is dispatched. You were on it, correct? I'm on it. Mr. Bagshaw, I believe is on it.	00:50:53
	So if one of the new members, yeah. Are we opening the floor for nominations for the president? Yeah, I nominate Tony Turing.	00:51:00
	You can accept it or not if you'd like. You can define. Yeah. You can decline if you'd like.	00:51:12
	I was gonna I think we have one.	00:51:17
	Remember that council member that has one committee appointment?	00:51:19
	I have two.	00:51:23
	You have to as well.	00:51:26
	I don't recall.	00:51:28
	Oh, OK, well.	00:51:29
	Well, OK, I was going to nominate.	00:51:31
	Sam Sarkinson.	00:51:34
	So I do decline.	00:51:36
	For which which committee before?	00:51:38
	Bargaining for.	00:51:41
	Road departments contract.	00:51:42
	And for?	00:51:44
	Dispatch for 911.	00:51:46
	I don't mind doing the road department.	00:51:48
	But I don't know about the district.	00:51:50
	You don't know anything about dispatch.	00:51:53
	OK, I'll do.	00:51:58
	Yeah.	00:51:59
	They come as a unit. We usually try to.	00:52:00
	All in favor of Sam for.	00:52:03
	Aye aye. Any opposed?	00:52:05
	I don't know that we have a second.	00:52:08
	There wasn't a second.	00:52:11
	Carried away there, I didn't want anything to change back out.	00:52:13
	AC.	00:52:19
	We tabled 8C. Is there any committee report, Jim, anything?	00:52:21
	I don't have anything.	00:52:29
	It means Matt.	00:52:30
	Sam Oh no, I've had enough.	00:52:34
	I'm good.	00:52:39
	I don't believe I have anything either, just be looking for emails.	00:52:41
	Rescheduling with page.	00:52:47
	Baker, Tilly.	00:52:49
	We talk about dates or we're going to wait for her to let us know when she's available.	00:52:50
	At this point, I think we're probably looking at early next week maybe.	00:52:56
	Let's let's talk about time of day. We can do that.	00:52:59
	Does anybody have a preference?	00:53:02
	I heard down here a little bit later in the day we could.	00:53:04
	Yeah, I just asked for after one if possible.	00:53:08
	Myself.	00:53:12
	I'm I'm out of town until next week.	00:53:13
	I couldn't do men.	00:53:18
	I can, I can.	00:53:21
	Well, actually, it's a team immediately.	00:53:23
	It was in the afternoon. I don't know if I can.	00:53:25
	And we can up to two council members.	00:53:30
	Well, we were talking about coming here to see the presentation on the big board, but I'll be out Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday too,	00:53:32
	but I can remote in.	00:53:36
	I I mean, this is kind of an important one. I'd rather wait.	00:53:41
	I'm out the first week of March 1st full week but.	00:53:46
	We can, uh.	00:53:49
	Can we do the last week in February?	00:53:50
	This, I mean, I do think this is going to really impact.	00:53:53
	How we move forward with some of the decisions that we're making.	00:53:58
	So once paid for flies, let us know, we suggest.	00:54:23
	The last week of February and date option I'm showing a joint meeting on the 25th.	00:54:28
	At 4:00.	00:54:33
	Oh, maybe we should just do it then we do it after that.	00:54:34
	Or during it.	00:54:38
	Honestly, I think this would be a really good thing for the commissioners to hear as well. I'll, I'll get with Alan, see if	00:54:40
	they're OK to sitting in on that. I'm sure they would be.	00:54:45
	Work. I work a lot better.	00:54:49
	OK.	00:54:53
	It starts at 4:00.	00:54:55
	Let's pencil it in for now and.	00:54:57
	If everybody's OK, then we'll send out a.	00:54:59
	Revised.	00:55:02
	How long is it?	00:55:03
	1520 minutes depending on how many questions we ask and then.	00:55:07
	You know, we usually try to cap the joint meeting in an hour. Al tries to be pretty.	00:55:13
	Prompt. But we, you know, we may extend it just a little bit for that.	00:55:17
	Might be an hour and a half.	00:55:21
	Maybe, yeah.	00:55:23
	Could be, but yeah, we need to, we need to get this one right and so.	00:55:24
	I agree.	00:55:29
	Will.	00:55:30
	I'll send out a follow up.	00:55:32
	When we have it.	00:55:37
	Nail down that that sounds.	00:55:39
	OK, any other?	00:55:41
	Steve's out.	00:55:46
	If y'all didn't hear so.	00:55:47
	He's got a pretty bad case, so.	00:55:50
	Keep him in your thoughts and prayers and.	00:55:52
	Too much.	00:55:58
	Oh yes.	00:55:59
	Anybody from public?	00:56:00
	Don't have everybody run to the mic.	00:56:03
	I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. So moved.	00:56:04
	Say all in favor.	00:56:07
	Aye, aye.	00:56:09

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	Facebook.	00:00:00
	I know these new kids.	00:00:01
	We will call the Floyd County Council meeting to order for Tuesday, February 11th. Please stand for the budget of Allegiance.	00:00:04
	My religions to the flag of the United States of America.	00:00:13
	To the Republic for which it stands.	00:00:17
	Nation and God.	00:00:20
	Thank you. Let the record show that we have a full quorum tonight. Mr. Bagshaw, would you lead us in the prayer, please? Let's	00:00:27
	pray.	00:00:30
	Oh Lord, we thank you today, another day. We thank you for the snow we know.	00:00:34
	We understand that you you know what the Earth needs.	00:00:39
	We thank you for keeping people safe today, we all, and we're always grateful for freedom and liberty that our country affords.	00:00:42
	That we can meet an open meeting like this without fear of retribution.	00:00:49
	Lord, please give us the wisdom and the knowledge to make prudent choices on behalf of the county today.	00:00:54
	Or please be with our first responders.	00:00:59
	And keep them safe as they keep us safe. Be with our.	00:01:03
	Sailors, airmen and.	00:01:07
	Marines and Army today and keep them safe as they defend freedom around the world.	00:01:08
	And all these things we ask in your name, Amen.	00:01:14
	Thank you. Before we move on to the acceptance of the agenda, there are a couple.	00:01:17
	Changes.	00:01:21
	A Judge Granger.	00:01:23
	Would like to table hers.	00:01:26
	Umm, new business 1.	00:01:29
	And.	00:01:31
	There was talk over e-mail of tabling 8C.	00:01:32
	Until we speak with Baker Tilly.	00:01:36
	And the third thing is Mr. Timbery's here to speak to us.	00:01:39
	We're gonna put him on at the very beginning so he can hit the road.	00:01:43
	So.	00:01:47
	If we have a motion.	00:01:49
	With those changes.	00:01:51
	I I do not want to.	00:01:54
	Completely table everything.	00:01:56
	For the public safety available, I think we should.	00:01:59
	Appropriate the amount that we need.	00:02:04
	I don't think we've.	00:02:07
	Advertised for.	00:02:10
	So you would all have to.	00:02:14
	Do we have an appropriation to pay the public?	00:02:23
	Sorry, check.	00:02:28
	Have to be happy.	00:02:29
	Go ahead and pay the contracts.	00:02:31
	No, we have not done any appropriations. However, we pay in the contracts.	00:02:34
	We're we're going to appropriate and appropriate next week.	00:02:41
	OK.	00:03:01
	Oh sure, is this one.	00:03:03
	It's green.	00:03:06
	Appropriations and public safety that fund nor have there been any advertised.	00:03:09
	OK.	00:03:13
	Yeah, OK, OK.	00:03:18
	Fair.	00:03:20
	Yeah, I guess I'm.	00:03:22
	We'd be happy to do a generic appropriation.	00:03:25
	Advertisement.	00:03:28
	For next month, but outside of that.	00:03:30
	You don't know what these.	00:03:33
	Yeah, I think we need.	00:03:39
	I think we need to have an appropriation for the contracts that we're paying.	00:03:41
	OK, that's my unless. Unless is there something that I'm missing?	00:03:49
	OK, Nope. I think you're.	00:03:54
	Right on.	00:03:56
	That's at least what we have to do.	00:03:58
	Yeah, I couldn't understand why we hadn't.	00:04:05
	Done that, but.	00:04:08
	OK.	00:04:10
	Fame there.	00:04:12
	So I'm I'm good.	00:04:15
	Is that is that a motion to approve the agenda with those changes? Yes. OK. Second, we have a motion to 2nd for approval of	00:04:17
	tonight's agenda with.	00:04:21
	Changes that were noted.	00:04:26
	Any discussion?	00:04:28
	All in favor say aye aye.	00:04:29
	Any opposed?	00:04:32
	You're up, Mr. Barry.	00:04:34
	I'm sorry, is there anybody from the public that wish?	00:04:38
	Would like to speak before we get started.	00:04:40
	You're still up. Go ahead.	00:04:43
	Thank you, Mr. President, members of the Council.	00:04:47
	Tim Berry with Crow.	00:04:50
	A couple of things.	00:04:53
	I'm here first.	00:04:55
	On behalf of.	00:04:57
	Some good news.	00:04:59
	In November of this year, we received a call from S&P.	00:05:01
	Wanting to review the bond rating for the county.	00:05:07
	And on short notice.	00:05:10
	At the most inopportune time when property tax collections are taking place.	00:05:13
	We were able to pull together a meeting.	00:05:20
	And I want to thank Commissioner Al Kanable, Councilmember Danny Short.	00:05:22
	Don Blop.	00:05:27
	Diana Topping.	00:05:29
	And we had a conversation with SP in late November.	00:05:31
	They came back at the end of January to affirm.	00:05:35
	Floyd County's rating.	00:05:40
	As an A and to affirm that on a stable basis.	00:05:42
	Said that the economic outlook in Floyd County remains strong.	00:05:47
	The actions that the Council.	00:05:53
	Has made.	00:05:56
	To stabilize live income and lit revenues.	00:05:57
	They commended.	00:06:01
	And and said that your outlook?	00:06:02
	Looked good.	00:06:06
	Moving forward and.	00:06:07
	Maintain that a stable rating.	00:06:09
	On the.	00:06:12
	Bonds that were issued in 2021.	00:06:14
	For Nova.	00:06:17
	So, umm.	00:06:18
	Tim, can I ask a question? Was it, did we have an A rating already? OK. So they maintain the rating. Yes, they maintain the	00:06:19
	rating.	00:06:23
	And during times like this, you know with.	00:06:27
	Some economic instability going on, uncertainties with revenues in many communities, certainly.	00:06:32
	The way Indiana tracks.	00:06:41
	Their audit and their financials on a cash basis instead of.	00:06:44
	On an accrual basis.	00:06:51
	Maintaining an A stable rating is very good.	00:06:53
	Thank you. Now that is on your.	00:06:57
	Backed bonds.	00:07:00
	Your local income tax bonds.	00:07:02
	So wanted to provide that and also wanted to thank the extra efforts.	00:07:04
	Diana went into to.	00:07:11
	It was mostly Diana to get backup documentation and information to provide to them.	00:07:14
	And to affirm that and so.	00:07:22
	I want to thank her and her staff.	00:07:25
	For all of their efforts to to get that accomplished on behalf of the county.	00:07:27
	Also here tonight.	00:07:33
	We had a conversation.	00:07:36
	Last Friday.	00:07:38
	With regards to the timing of the purchase of the Health Department building.	00:07:39
	We would anticipate coming back to you at your March meeting with bond parameters.	00:07:45
	And I just wanted to.	00:07:52
	Introduce that concept here tonight so that everything was prepared for at that time.	00:07:55
	We anticipate or we understand the purchase of the building at approximately $2.2 million.	00:08:02
	There is some cash available to take care of.	00:08:10
	Remodeling and renovation costs.	00:08:16
	That will be utilized for that.	00:08:19
	And there is a little bit that we would anticipate in the bond resolution to include.	00:08:22
	Over and above that.	00:08:28
	For renovation and cost of issuance.	00:08:30
	We're looking to give the county flexibility as you work through what your revenues are and reallocate expenditures.	00:08:33
	Some flexibility on repayment of that.	00:08:44
	We're looking at a five year.	00:08:47
	Band with some options available to the county to either prepaid early if you were in position to do that.	00:08:49
	Um, to.	00:09:00
	Pay interest only through the life of that ban and the option then ultimately if you chose to do so.	00:09:02
	To take that out if you chose not to pay off the ban.	00:09:09
	Either early or at the time of the.	00:09:14
	Conclusion of that ban.	00:09:16
	So that is what we would anticipate bringing back before you at next month's meeting or at the.	00:09:19
	March meeting.	00:09:26
	And just would entertain any questions that you may have or.	00:09:28
	Ensure that that is consistent with what?	00:09:32
	Thoughts are.	00:09:35
	With regards to that prior to.	00:09:36
	The bond resolution.	00:09:39
	What, what kind of rate do you think we'll get on on a ban?	00:09:41
	A5 year ban.	00:09:46
	I can't tell you a rate at this point in time. I will tell you that interest rates are changing.	00:09:48
	Your rates have been.	00:09:55
	Fairly competitive. You've done some bands of recent note.	00:09:56
	Recently.	00:10:01
	They've been all fairly competitive along those lines.	00:10:02
	You've had in the past.	00:10:07
	A lot of interest.	00:10:09
	In your bonds or in your band?	00:10:11
	Which has decreased your cost and your interest costs.	00:10:14
	Accordingly.	00:10:19
	And can you explain to us again why we would do a ban versus going ahead and bonding this right off the bat?	00:10:23
	To provide you some flexibility.	00:10:32
	If you remember.	00:10:35
	The jail originally, yeah, but there was a lot of work to be done on the jail. So that's the reason why I think we did the. But	00:10:38
	yet ultimately you chose to utilize cash and to pay that off without taking out the long-term bond.	00:10:45
	I think some thinking has been based upon feedback that we've received.	00:10:54
	That you may want to be in that same position again.	00:10:59
	On this project.	00:11:03
	And so that would be the advantage of doing the ban.	00:11:06
	Over a short term to provide you the most flexibility.	00:11:10
	To pay that off without penalty.	00:11:14
	And to pay that off early.	00:11:17
	But certainly.	00:11:20
	We can look at it.	00:11:22
	In multiple ways.	00:11:24
	Also gives us flexibility.	00:11:27
	To let other projects.	00:11:29
	Catch up. Umm.	00:11:31
	And possibly bond together.	00:11:33
	That is correct.	00:11:35
	Now that.	00:11:38
	It's just.	00:11:40
	It's yes. It's that word flexibility. It gives us options.	00:11:42
	Not saying that it won't go to a bond.	00:11:47
	That's I would imagine the interest rates on the band are.	00:11:49
	More than interest rate on the bot.	00:11:56
	Would be.	00:11:58
	I guess that's where maybe I was thinking coming from is that if you're looking at a long term ban or bond, bond.	00:12:00
	Yeah, if you're looking at a long term, yes.	00:12:07
	They are a little bit, but not that much different.	00:12:11
	Because of the interest rate environment that we are in.	00:12:14
	Umm, and it all depends on on structuring as well.	00:12:18
	If you are looking to only pay interest.	00:12:25
	Versus to pay some principal and interest during the life of the bank.	00:12:28
	OK.	00:12:34
	I mean.	00:12:38
	I'm I'm kind of wanting to look at both banding and bonding.	00:12:41
	I kind of do want to look at both options.	00:12:46
	Does that make sense to everybody?	00:12:49
	Yeah, and that's kind of why we lifted.	00:12:51
	OK with that option.	00:12:53
	I will say and I have not had a chance to review closely, so I want to be able to do that and I don't want to speak incorrectly.	00:12:56
	But I know there were some amendments to Senate Bill 1 today.	00:13:06
	That might impact.	00:13:11
	General obligation bonds.	00:13:16
	So I want to review that before I advise what What's the possible change that could have happened? I want to advise first. I want	00:13:19
	to review an advice first.	00:13:23
	There's lots. There's a lot going on. I know there's a lot going on.	00:13:28
	Good news is they didn't pull out.	00:13:32
	Much of what was there impacting the amount of revenue that you would be able to?	00:13:35
	Realize.	00:13:40
	So the revenue hit to local governments will not be as severe.	00:13:42
	As initially.	00:13:47
	Provided it got chopped pretty good today.	00:13:48
	Amendment amendments hit pretty hard.	00:13:51
	So.	00:13:54
	And that's why I want to look at all those amendments.	00:13:56
	To review that.	00:14:00
	But you will be presenting both a band and a bond situation.	00:14:01
	You will be approving maximum parameters.	00:14:05
	So it's going to be on a band.	00:14:10
	Regardless of whether we bonded or not until the projects.	00:14:12
	Ready to bond?	00:14:16
	But this?	00:14:19
	We'll have time to figure out.	00:14:21
	If we if we lump together, if we go straight.	00:14:24
	Or if we pay off.	00:14:27
	So we're, we're, we've already made the decision today.	00:14:28
	No.	00:14:31
	We still have to.	00:14:32
	But you're going to be on a band for a while before.	00:14:35
	Bonds are issued so.	00:14:39
	We have to be on a band to complete the purchase.	00:14:41
	I think the question was would you issue up?	00:14:45
	Ban or a bond immediately. Yes, yes and I think the question.	00:14:47
	And that's where I was asking what the preference of was the council and I thought I heard.	00:14:52
	A ban at this point in time.	00:14:57
	You could always do a five year bond or A5 year ban.	00:15:02
	Or if you're looking to extend that out.	00:15:08
	Longer term, that the flexibility in the band gives you the option to convert.	00:15:12
	It gives you the option to pay interest only.	00:15:17
	It gives the option to make payments or makes.	00:15:19
	I think we need that right now until we figure out.	00:15:22
	Some other things going on downtown.	00:15:26
	I think it gives you the flexibility for all projects in the future. It also gives you the flexibility to better understand.	00:15:31
	The impact of the reallocation of the lit dollars into the budget.	00:15:38
	And what impact that will do to?	00:15:45
	Potentially provide you dollars.	00:15:49
	I've done some work and it and it appears to me that.	00:15:52
	If we do.	00:15:56
	A 25 year ban that.	00:15:58
	The health department has the money to pay for at least.	00:16:01
	Half of that.	00:16:06
	Now depends on what happens in the General Assembly, or does depend on what happens.	00:16:07
	It really does. So there is a lot.	00:16:12
	Of based on information that we received from legal counsel.	00:16:16
	Dollars are limited at.	00:16:22
	As to what can be spent from health department funds?	00:16:24
	Based upon the source there is, yes, it's very limited. It's $87,000.	00:16:28
	Is what they have to spend on an annual basis.	00:16:33
	We know those numbers.	00:16:36
	So if you do.	00:16:38
	Long term.	00:16:39
	25 year.	00:16:41
	Bond at.	00:16:43
	6%, which I would think you could get back.	00:16:45
	A much better rate than that.	00:16:48
	But it's $187,000, so they can pay nearly half of.	00:16:50
	That.	00:16:56
	Based on the current situation.	00:16:58
	Now, is that situation going to continue?	00:17:00
	I don't know.	00:17:03
	That's why I'm looking at.	00:17:04
	A bond versus a band because.	00:17:07
	I think they have the opportunity to pay well. We discussed a lot of this.	00:17:10
	Repayment that does not change repayment.	00:17:14
	But we just, we discussed a lot of the same options when we were talking about.	00:17:17
	The jail on how we wanted to proceed and.	00:17:20
	You know.	00:17:23
	If you put a 25 year bond on that.	00:17:24
	It's doable, but.	00:17:27
	1215 years you're.	00:17:30
	You're gonna redo that building in some form or fashion. It may not cost as much as it does now.	00:17:32
	But there's going to be upkeep and.	00:17:36
	Rehab and new equipment and.	00:17:39
	Whatever, uh.	00:17:41
	So.	00:17:43
	And while you would be potentially using other funds to make that payment.	00:17:45
	You would be pledging in your bond documents.	00:17:51
	The general obligation of the county.	00:17:56
	Sure, sure, I understand.	00:17:58
	Understand that.	00:18:00
	OK.	00:18:05
	I don't.	00:18:07
	Is everybody on board with the band versus upon?	00:18:09
	Listen, looking back, I voted.	00:18:12
	To pay off the jail.	00:18:15
	I'm not sure I would make that tank both.	00:18:17
	Again.	00:18:19
	So I'll just say that.	00:18:20
	So to use that.	00:18:23
	Analogy. Or use that.	00:18:25
	History is I don't, I don't know.	00:18:27
	I I guess my point would be that.	00:18:31
	This at least offers us the flexibility because there are still a lot of unknowns.	00:18:33
	Yeah, right.	00:18:38
	And what I really don't want to get into is we're in a situation where we're locked into something and then we have to deal with	00:18:39
	that something else comes along. This gives us the flexibility to be able to deal with things as they come along. OK, a little	00:18:45
	more. I do like the flexibility of it. I mean, I think we could get a bond.	00:18:50
	That would allow us to pay it off.	00:18:56
	Five in five years I think we could.	00:18:59
	I think we could.	00:19:03
	Right.	00:19:04
	An early payment bond.	00:19:06
	That would cost you.	00:19:09
	If you were to do that.	00:19:11
	It costs for the flexibility of that. Yeah, yes. So OK, OK, enough said. If band is the way we everyone thinks we should go.	00:19:13
	Are you going to send more information to us before the March?	00:19:22
	You will getting or with the documents, the legal documents that will have all of the maximum parameters and we'll have some	00:19:28
	documentation attached to that. You might have anything else for Mr. Barry.	00:19:33
	Thank you very much.	00:19:39
	Thank you.	00:19:40
	Thank you.	00:19:42
	Point of order, Mr. Chairman. We didn't approve minutes.	00:19:44
	You are correct.	00:19:47
	Accept the minutes.	00:19:50
	1/14/24.	00:19:52
	25 organizational meeting minutes.	00:19:54
	And the 1142025 meeting minutes.	00:19:56
	2nd, we have a motion and 2nd for approval of those minutes. Any discussion on those?	00:20:00
	All in favor say aye aye.	00:20:06
	I abstain.	00:20:08
	Understood.	00:20:11
	That passes. Thank you for bringing that up.	00:20:12
	Miss Diana Topping for.	00:20:16
	Yes.	00:20:21
	So I'm covering for Charlotte Bass this evening.	00:20:23
	You have.	00:20:26
	Additional appropriations.	00:20:29
	That are being requested. So out of the 8906 fund she's requesting $2249.82 and that is to cover some.	00:20:31
	Increased costs and supplies.	00:20:40
	Motion to approve 2A.	00:20:45
	Second, as advertised, we have a motion a second for 2A. Any discussion?	00:20:47
	All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed?	00:20:52
	That carries.	00:20:55
	And we so in her 9150 fund.	00:20:57
	Because that fund covers the cost for her employee that gets paid out of there. It covers the entire cost, including.	00:21:01
	The employers portion of health insurance, so she's requesting an additional appropriation of $9000 in her health insurance line	00:21:08
	in that fund.	00:21:11
	Motion to approve to be as advertised.	00:21:16
	2nd we have a motion and a second for 2B.	00:21:19
	Any discussion or questions?	00:21:21
	All in favor say aye.	00:21:24
	Aye, any opposed?	00:21:26
	That carries two seed.	00:21:27
	9273 or an additional request for $3318.36. This is just to cover some contractual employee costs.	00:21:29
	Move to approve to see.	00:21:38
	Second motion and a second for to see any discussion.	00:21:40
	All in favor say aye. Opposed.	00:21:46
	That carries.	00:21:49
	2D2 D is out of the 1161. It's an additional appropriation. These are, this is these are monies that are a commitment towards the	00:21:51
	cost of the new building. So it's $72,671.90. So this is an additional appropriation, moving those funds into a line so they can	00:21:57
	actually be spent towards do you know what that's for?	00:22:03
	I'm sorry, you know what it's for.	00:22:09
	Specifically an Albany building quite literally listed as commitment towards the cost of the new building. I believe this is the	00:22:11
	amount that they are allowed to contribute from the 1161 towards.	00:22:16
	Potential renovations and purchase of that new building.	00:22:21
	And it has to be appropriated so that it can be utilized.	00:22:25
	She's kind of getting ahead of the game.	00:22:28
	She's being prepared and pledging it this year.	00:22:29
	OK, motion to approve.	00:22:34
	2D as advertising.	00:22:37
	Second, have a motion and a second for 2D. Any further discussion?	00:22:39
	All in favor say aye.	00:22:44
	Any opposed?	00:22:46
	Carries.	00:22:48
	Stan.	00:22:51
	This is the follow up for the appropriations for.	00:22:58
	Engineering study to have the water pipes moved over the IT room.	00:23:02
	This is the this third month in a row.	00:23:11
	I believe it is December, January and February.	00:23:13
	We have a motion. We do have a.	00:23:19
	Portion of the engineering study that's been provided to the sheriff.	00:23:21
	He's going to review the options. Take a look at it.	00:23:25
	I think he's go his plans are discussed with the commissioners to see if it's a viable plan.	00:23:28
	Once they decide on which play, if it is a viable plan, they're going to submit.	00:23:33
	Back to Kurt.	00:23:38
	Her garlic and they're going to send out the RFP's to solicit.	00:23:40
	The bidding process so.	00:23:45
	Do we have a motion for 3A?	00:23:50
	Is this part of the?	00:23:54
	I'll make them up. I'll make a motion so we can discuss. Motion to approve 3A.	00:23:57
	Second motion is second. Go ahead, Sam. Is this part of the?	00:24:02
	50,000 that was appropriated back.	00:24:05
	Yeah, it was. This was the 50,000 that we never got obligated. So we came back in January, had it reappropriated so that we can	00:24:08
	move forward with the study.	00:24:13
	So yes, it is and and we worked with the.	00:24:18
	Previous building.	00:24:22
	Authority Commissioner.	00:24:25
	To try to.	00:24:27
	Determine a cost. Chuck advised that it was going to run at least 50,000.	00:24:28
	We did. We have been working with Donnie. Donnie Hair.	00:24:32
	And he has found a couple of options with engineers who could provide us.	00:24:36
	Exactly what we need with the study itself to send out solicit RFPs so.	00:24:41
	Heading obviously half the price.	00:24:46
	The actual cost?	00:24:51
	That we've incurred so far is about 20 to 5 I believe. So this is the 25 is just to encompass any additional costs that may.	00:24:53
	Hit that we we didn't originally account for.	00:25:03
	So.	00:25:06
	But Stan, this is just the study. This is not the actual work. This is just the engineering study.	00:25:08
	And there's no working drawing or specifications for $25,000.	00:25:14
	Or three pipes. I just don't understand that. I mean.	00:25:18
	Chairman, I've talked about that many times.	00:25:22
	Yeah, I don't understand. Maybe I'm just ignorant. I'm not an engineer, but that seems like a.	00:25:25
	To say, yeah, look up and say, yeah, you can't move those three times, it's not necessary.	00:25:30
	Not necessarily the pipes, Mr. Banks. So it's it's the equipment that sits under the pipes. It's a couple $1,000,000 worth of	00:25:34
	equipment. So we just moving 3 pipes.	00:25:39
	Equipment, uh.	00:25:44
	Is and I've said numerous times, Hussey Mechanical was.	00:25:45
	That building for decades.	00:25:52
	And they probably have engineers on staff.	00:25:54
	That would move three pipes.	00:25:57
	I don't understand.	00:25:59
	Building authorities.	00:26:00
	Dishonest, but.	00:26:02
	And we all recognize it could be a disaster if all that.	00:26:04
	IT equipment gets water on. It's an absolute disaster. We understand that clearly this.	00:26:08
	But umm.	00:26:13
	And.	00:26:17
	I'm not a I won't use Diana's favorite saying about myself, but I just I don't understand why it just have a study to say Yeah,	00:26:18
	you need.	00:26:22
	Well, I can tell you that.	00:26:27
	We need to move the pipes.	00:26:31
	For $25,000, I'd like to think we got working drawings with specifications of how it's going to be done.	00:26:32
	So now they're going to come back with another.	00:26:39
	Be for.	00:26:41
	Working drawings and specifications, I think, I think the plan is, if I understood you correctly, was to take the information that	00:26:43
	you have and be able to put out an RFP based off that.	00:26:48
	Yes, OK.	00:26:53
	Show garage specifications.	00:26:55
	Yes.	00:26:58
	Well, this is the issue.	00:27:00
	Brought up last time, I just kind of wondered with the commissary funds, the amount of.	00:27:01
	Funds they have available there.	00:27:06
	The Sheriff's Department couldn't pick this up.	00:27:08
	At least this portion of it.	00:27:11
	And we got.	00:27:13
	A partial listing of some of those.	00:27:14
	Revenues, expenses, we didn't get the full one first.	00:27:17
	Yes, you're all just not going to give it to us even though we asked nicely.	00:27:21
	Not going to give it to us.	00:27:25
	Yes. No.	00:27:27
	I'm asking you to stand.	00:27:29
	What exactly? I sent the e-mail, I followed up with you and I said.	00:27:30
	The same listing that we got a year ago.	00:27:34
	All the credit card detail and all that because you can't tell.	00:27:37
	What these sixteen $17,000 credit card spends is our per month.	00:27:40
	There's no detail to it.	00:27:45
	You're only going to. You just decide you're not going to give it to us.	00:27:46
	I did not make that decision. Well, I've asked for it and there was no response.	00:27:50
	So that's a number.	00:27:54
	We don't have in our.	00:27:56
	Can you send me last year's and I'll be glad that we're.	00:27:59
	I sent it. It's in the. It's in the listing I forwarded from last year. I took the exact e-mail from the.	00:28:02
	Year with that information.	00:28:08
	There's a breakdown of the detail of the credit card expenses you all provided to us.	00:28:10
	I'll be glad.	00:28:15
	I think I sent you everything that we were supposed to send.	00:28:17
	No, you didn't. OK.	00:28:21
	Is there any further discussion here? We're going to.	00:28:27
	We good.	00:28:31
	All right, we have a motion and a second for.	00:28:33
	3/8.	00:28:36
	All in favor say aye.	00:28:37
	Aye aye, opposed.	00:28:39
	That carries.	00:28:42
	Thanks. Thank you.	00:28:43
	Anybody here for Kent?	00:28:46
	Yes, Sir. Mr. President, Tammy called today and asked if I would.	00:28:47
	Represent a.	00:28:51
	For a they are appropriating 2024 funds to 2025.	00:28:53
	So, umm.	00:28:59
	With that in mind, I'd move that for a be approved.	00:29:01
	Tag it motion a second for 4A.	00:29:04
	Any discussion?	00:29:07
	All in favor say aye.	00:29:10
	Aye, any opposed?	00:29:12
	That carries.	00:29:14
	Your rights?	00:29:17
	Community Corrections received a 8 odd grant.	00:29:26
	I'm asking the money be appropriated so I can purchase drug test supplies.	00:29:28
	Motion to Approve 5.	00:29:33
	As sacrificed, I'll second.	00:29:35
	Have motion a second for 5A any.	00:29:37
	Questions for Darius.	00:29:39
	All in favor say aye.	00:29:42
	Aye, any opposed?	00:29:44
	That carries.	00:29:46
	Community Corrections is asking to move drug testing supply money to professional services.	00:29:48
	A transfer of money.	00:29:53
	This is an ideal.	00:29:54
	Motion to approve 5B.	00:29:58
	Sure, have a motion and 2nd for 5B.	00:30:00
	Any discussion?	00:30:03
	All in favor say aye aye.	00:30:05
	Any opposed?	00:30:08
	That carries. Thank you. Thanks.	00:30:09
	Mr. Nick Creevy.	00:30:11
	Model through this again.	00:30:17
	So the first one is a 1135 fund.	00:30:19
	This is a reappropriation.	00:30:23
	Of 97,500 this might not encumbered last year.	00:30:25
	This is for bridge 27.	00:30:29
	The engineering.	00:30:32
	For that.	00:30:34
	We hope to use that to apply for some grant funds later this year.	00:30:35
	Place that bridge.	00:30:40
	Where is bridge 27?	00:30:43
	It's out West of Greenville or Georgetown.	00:30:46
	I can't. I can't you know what wrote a trial. I think it's.	00:30:53
	But I'd have to.	00:30:57
	You're not. I'm not familiar with all the numbers yet other than bridge 51.	00:31:01
	Bridge 51 has its own Facebook page now. That's nice.	00:31:12
	This this works.	00:31:15
	This was one of the bridges set for.	00:31:17
	Replacement in the annual bridge inspection.	00:31:19
	I was just curious.	00:31:24
	I'll look into it now.	00:31:31
	So did you say there's a grant? This is for a matching grant.	00:31:32
	Community Crossings grant.	00:31:40
	Is that in jeopardy at all? The community crossings grant stuff.	00:31:42
	With all the legislation.	00:31:46
	Yeah, I don't know what they're short answer is yes, it's all these. That's what I find it will.	00:31:49
	From what I hear, probably not go away but be revised.	00:31:56
	You know, so it's been a good program for us. We.	00:32:01
	Yeah, the county has Utah.	00:32:03
	It every year, in fact, yeah.	00:32:05
	Yeah, I mean.	00:32:07
	And and and so I guess my.	00:32:09
	Follow up question then is.	00:32:12
	Do you go ahead with this? No.	00:32:14
	The bridge needs to be replaced. We need to do.	00:32:16
	But we're gonna have to.	00:32:20
	We may have come up with.	00:32:21
	All the money, you know.	00:32:23
	This this this portion.	00:32:24
	It's we're paying locally for that.	00:32:27
	It's the implementation that we're seeking.	00:32:31
	Yeah, this, this is the.	00:32:34
	Initial, umm.	00:32:35
	Work that has to be done before.	00:32:36
	And then we go.	00:32:38
	Tried to get the grant forth.	00:32:39
	OK, OK.	00:32:41
	Moved to approve. 6A is advertised.	00:32:44
	We got into discussion before that, sorry. Yeah. So we have a motion. Is there a second?	00:32:46
	Oh, second.	00:32:53
	We have a motion a second for 6A. Any further discussion?	00:32:54
	All in favor say aye. Any opposed?	00:32:58
	That carries.	00:33:02
	B is an appropriation from 1173. This is also.	00:33:04
	Matching Grant.	00:33:12
	This is for our awarded amount.	00:33:13
	This is the local.	00:33:16
	For that amount.	00:33:17
	Oh, so this was already awarded?	00:33:18
	While we we had the con.	00:33:20
	We've been awarded by the state. We had the, we set the bids. We reopened those last week at the.	00:33:22
	Contract.	00:33:29
	Motion to approve 6B as advertised. Second motion and a second for 6B any.	00:33:31
	Discussion. Hopefully they won't yank.	00:33:38
	Get out of things that are only in progress. Yeah, I think anything they're going to do now would be.	00:33:41
	Effect next year there.	00:33:46
	All in favor, Are you ready?	00:33:47
	Were you OK? All in favor of 6B? Say aye aye. Any opposed?	00:33:50
	That one carries.	00:33:55
	Item C is.	00:33:57
	From Fund 1176.	00:33:59
	This is for the salt water.	00:34:01
	The work department recently.	00:34:04
	And ordered 2000 tons.	00:34:07
	Solitary punish.	00:34:09
	Motion to approve 6C as advertised. Second motion a second for 6C. Any questions or discussion? How are we doing on our Sol?	00:34:11
	I will have to check for what we just did.	00:34:21
	Today and last night.	00:34:24
	But we we have good stores.	00:34:26
	Now this is for delivery for.	00:34:28
	The next order that we we came into this.	00:34:32
	Winter in really good shape and we have a minimum that we need.	00:34:35
	And purchase to get the good rate so.	00:34:38
	No that I was just curious where we stand.	00:34:40
	Any further discussion?	00:34:44
	All in favor of 6C say aye aye. Any opposed?	00:34:46
	That carries.	00:34:50
	D item D is from.	00:34:53
	9112 This is a reimbursement.	00:34:55
	For.	00:34:58
	A developer fee.	00:34:59
	Traffic impact study.	00:35:01
	Project that.	00:35:03
	Motion to approve 6D as advertised.	00:35:05
	Second motion and a second for 60 Any questions or discussion?	00:35:08
	All in favor say aye aye.	00:35:14
	Any opposed?	00:35:16
	That carries.	00:35:17
	All right, Item E.	00:35:19
	19124.	00:35:21
	He said for several grants.	00:35:24
	The Caesar Foundation or Grant Local.	00:35:27
	Community Grant.	00:35:34
	Indiana Economic Development Grant.	00:35:37
	Total 400 and three 683.	00:35:40
	50 So these are for projects that the regional community park and.	00:35:43
	You make my move.	00:35:47
	Motion to Approve 6.	00:35:51
	E as advertised.	00:35:52
	Motion and a second for 6E.	00:35:55
	Any discussion?	00:35:57
	I have a question.	00:35:58
	Why is the park money going into?	00:36:00
	The commissioners grant Why wouldn't you go into the parks?	00:36:05
	It's for Nova Park, correct?	00:36:10
	Oh, it's for Noah Park.	00:36:11
	No, the Caesar Foundation Park Green.	00:36:13
	Is for the Regional Park.	00:36:15
	Regional market.	00:36:16
	Oh, it's for the Regional Park.	00:36:17
	OK.	00:36:20
	Perfect, perfect.	00:36:22
	Good answer.	00:36:25
	All right, any further discussion?	00:36:27
	All in favor 6 E say aye.	00:36:30
	Aye, any opposed?	00:36:32
	That carries.	00:36:34
	Onto F.	00:36:35
	Item F is from 9130.	00:36:38
	So this is for Community and economic development projects 160.	00:36:44
	1000 and the bridge with.	00:36:48
	Right away. Rumors, man.	00:36:50
	Underneath.	00:36:51
	400.	00:36:53
	The Community and economic development projects are grants for.	00:36:54
	Rural transit.	00:36:59
	Transit grant and IADC programming grant and the ready to.	00:37:00
	.0 grand for the.	00:37:05
	The editorial board.	00:37:07
	Motion to Approve 6.	00:37:09
	Second motion in the second for 6F any discussion?	00:37:12
	All in favor say aye.	00:37:17
	Aye.	00:37:19
	Opposed.	00:37:20
	Carries finally.	00:37:21
	G is a joint resolution you should have.	00:37:24
	Copy of the original.	00:37:27
	This is.	00:37:32
	For a joint resolution.	00:37:33
	To transfer a parcel.	00:37:35
	Property to.	00:37:37
	The town of Georgetown.	00:37:38
	Ready here from Georgetown is here.	00:37:40
	Described it a little bit more.	00:37:43
	Thank you, Councillor Jamie Randy Keener, Towel Manager, Town Georgetown SO.	00:37:47
	The property in question is a small easement parcel located on Georgetown Lanesville Rd.	00:37:51
	Between the railroad trestle and the first bridge you come to as you cross Georgetown until.	00:37:58
	The town the last couple years have purchased all the.	00:38:03
	Properties from.	00:38:07
	The Georgetown softball field of Georgetown.	00:38:08
	To Georgetown Lanes already, So this is the last property that we need to acquire all the land.	00:38:11
	Within that space.	00:38:17
	What we plan to do with it, some of it's going to be green space.	00:38:19
	But we also wish to move Lois Lane from.	00:38:22
	Going right along the road trestle.	00:38:26
	And move it out so that fire trucks and school buses can get in and service. So not only the park, but the residents who live on	00:38:28
	Wilson Whisperer.	00:38:31
	Motion to approve 6G.	00:38:36
	That's advertising.	00:38:39
	2nd, we have a motion and a second for 6G. Any further questions or discussion? You said this was?	00:38:40
	I heard you say easement and you said parcel, so is that?	00:38:47
	How much property is involved with this? I'm just curious.	00:38:51
	Parcel is.	00:38:58
	Very small parcel, it's enough.	00:39:00
	Available right away, right along the road.	00:39:02
	Alley tracks.	00:39:05
	All right, sort of talking to Edgar training.	00:39:09
	That's why I was curious, because I didn't see anything.	00:39:11
	Any further discussion?	00:39:18
	All in favor of 6G say aye.	00:39:21
	Aye, any opposed?	00:39:23
	Nick, you've got a ways to go to get to Mr. Law on your.	00:39:27
	He's got a skulls disease before.	00:39:33
	Is it? Is it possible to get an update on bridge 51?	00:39:37
	Tell us what you know.	00:39:44
	So.	00:39:45
	Bridge 51 continues to be closed.	00:39:46
	Due to the dam failure.	00:39:49
	And not the condition of the deck or anything else. This was privately owned dam.	00:39:52
	We are in the process.	00:39:58
	Acquiring that dam for the project.	00:39:59
	The owner of the dam.	00:40:02
	Did not agree with our appraisal.	00:40:04
	Process.	00:40:08
	When the failed, fail.	00:40:09
	We continue that process now that is in the court they have.	00:40:11
	Pointed appraisers.	00:40:16
	And we're working through that.	00:40:18
	Regulated process.	00:40:19
	We do still anticipate that the right away.	00:40:21
	Acquisition phase will be completed.	00:40:25
	By the end of March, which will set the timeline for the construction, letting the.	00:40:27
	Contract, uh.	00:40:33
	For the.	00:40:34
	September and SO started work.	00:40:37
	Likely.	00:40:41
	This year, early next year, we are trying to get.	00:40:43
	That lighting date moved up.	00:40:46
	But we're working with federal regulations as administrator with.	00:40:48
	That so.	00:40:52
	Kind of get that.	00:40:55
	Do you have any hope that we're gonna be able to open the old bridge back up so.	00:40:56
	The County Road department has.	00:41:01
	Put some fill.	00:41:03
	In our.	00:41:04
	Engineering Consultant.	00:41:07
	Wants to see.	00:41:09
	The water.	00:41:11
	Ways and then go back down South, they can see what the impact of that was before that they're willing to kind of sign off on	00:41:13
	opening the bridge back up. We would like to be able to get the rail.	00:41:18
	Up as well and open it fully.	00:41:23
	There is an option that it might be reduced.	00:41:25
	A reduced line opening if we cannot do that.	00:41:31
	We are working on that.	00:41:35
	Some of it will be dependent on.	00:41:36
	Water level.	00:41:40
	Agreeing with us and so our engineers can look at it.	00:41:43
	And from what I understand, it's not the bridge, it's the approach to the bridge that's the problem.	00:41:47
	So when the dam.	00:41:52
	Around the damn like.	00:41:56
	Failure.	00:41:57
	It washed out some of the.	00:42:00
	Approach the approach.	00:42:02
	Yeah, the gravel and.	00:42:05
	So I let the approach.	00:42:06
	The engineers have looked at it.	00:42:11
	Feel like the fill that we.	00:42:13
	Put in there.	00:42:15
	Should be sufficient to hold that together.	00:42:16
	Would the Commissioners be prepared to put a weight limit on that bridge?	00:42:20
	Or do they have our one already?	00:42:23
	I, I, I can't speak to that right now.	00:42:27
	I know that was brought up before.	00:42:31
	Difficult to enforce.	00:42:37
	And everybody understands that.	00:42:41
	The new approach is going to be totally different, yeah.	00:42:43
	There should be no curve there. Basically it'll be a straight shot over and.	00:42:45
	Higher bridge.	00:42:49
	So this bridge current existing bridge floods. The new bridge should be up and out of the floodplain.	00:42:51
	One of the main reasons why we.	00:42:57
	Needed to go to an emergency, not just.	00:42:59
	Time, right?	00:43:03
	So we we see a lot of.	00:43:05
	People opining that.	00:43:07
	They should have replaced that years ago and we all know it's been in the works for.	00:43:09
	For years. For years so, and I will note that.	00:43:12
	The N dot number for this project is a 2017 number. We we've approached them prior to that. So this has been working a long.	00:43:17
	Time There's been a delay due to the environmental review.	00:43:24
	That's what I think people don't understand.	00:43:30
	Try to limit the.	00:43:34
	Costco.	00:43:36
	And buying a damaged dam.	00:43:37
	Yeah.	00:43:39
	All right. Thank you, Nick.	00:43:41
	Thank you, Nick.	00:43:46
	OK, so I have 3 items on the agenda tonight. The first item is an additional appropriation for our employee payout line.	00:43:52
	We had originally passed a budget for 2025 that had a $25,000.	00:43:58
	Appropriation in this line and that has been overextended at this point by $7755.20.	00:44:04
	And there are a few additional employee payouts that are going to happen through the rest of the year. So for those of you that	00:44:12
	are new.	00:44:15
	Employee payout occurs. I know I'm pointing to you but.	00:44:19
	You're new.	00:44:22
	An employee payout occurs when an employee separates employment and they qualify for a payout on their sick time.	00:44:23
	Vacation time depending on whether or not their grandfathered into that rule.	00:44:31
	And.	00:44:35
	Any personal time that they may have it.	00:44:38
	Not been able to utilize.	00:44:40
	Had.	00:44:43
	There are restrictions in place for sick time.	00:44:44
	Where you do have to be here for 20 years or more to get paid out 100% of 45 days of sick time.	00:44:48
	Vacation time there are no restrictions, however you are supposed to only be allowed to carry.	00:44:54
	One week over into the next year.	00:45:00
	And if you are a newer employee?	00:45:03
	Your payout is much more limited than if you are an older employee. We had an older employee separate employment at the beginning	00:45:06
	of this year and they took a very.	00:45:10
	Large.	00:45:14
	Payout and because we are anticipating some additional payouts throughout the rest of this year, we do need to.	00:45:15
	Go ahead and appropriate an additional 25,000 to this line so that we make up the current negative and still have some positive	00:45:21
	there for the remainder of the year.	00:45:25
	I don't know that I've ever actually seen this line completely.	00:45:29
	Expended until now since we instituted pre planning for employee payouts, which is a fairly relative new concept.	00:45:33
	You should be reactionary to it.	00:45:40
	So this is, this is new, this is new. The first year we appropriated quite a bit more, yes. And as the years have gone by, we've	00:45:44
	been able to appropriate less and less, but we took a hit that we were not anticipating during budget season last year.	00:45:49
	So normally the $25,000.	00:45:56
	Motion to Approve 7 a second.	00:45:58
	Motion and 2nd for seven A. Any further discussion?	00:46:01
	All in favor say aye.	00:46:05
	Aye, any opposed?	00:46:06
	That carries.	00:46:08
	So 7B is just redesignating into its line the Harris Act funds so that they are once again.	00:46:09
	Housed in their separate line away from the rest of the rainy day monies.	00:46:16
	And can be utilized if they need to be utilized towards whatever the Council needs that they are utilized towards this year.	00:46:20
	We've talked.	00:46:28
	But before we get a motion, we've talked about.	00:46:29
	Designating this into its fund here for the last.	00:46:32
	Couple months? I believe so.	00:46:35
	If you all weren't in that initial conversation.	00:46:38
	This was housed within Rainy Day.	00:46:41
	We just house it in its own line every year so that.	00:46:44
	I'm going to make a motion, but I do want to discuss this.	00:46:46
	I think a motion for 7B for discussion purposes.	00:46:52
	Motion a second. 7B. Go ahead, Denise.	00:46:56
	I is. Is this necessary?	00:46:59
	Are we going to use this amount?	00:47:05
	To find part of the house.	00:47:07
	Building or the re or the.	00:47:11
	My understanding is that it's necessary to track what's actually left from the CARES Act.	00:47:14
	It is something that we all decided as a council.	00:47:20
	That you wanted to be able to do.	00:47:23
	To track what's remaining, we did decide that in the past. My question is here. It's getting removed to that line. But do we do?	00:47:25
	There's no.	00:47:30
	There's no state requirement. This is a, this is a county specific decision and, and for me, the reason why we're doing this at	00:47:37
	this point and, and.	00:47:42
	I might be OK with it is that we want to use this for the health department.	00:47:46
	To eat, to do some of the remodeling or to pay down?	00:47:53
	Part of the the bond.	00:47:57
	But I wanted to make sure that we all understand it.	00:47:58
	That's the reason why we're doing this. We don't have to do this, just gives us a better look at.	00:48:01
	I will say that Crowe worked their numbers utilized to understanding this amount.	00:48:07
	I will let you know that the numbers that Crow is going to bring to you in March.	00:48:11
	Include using this amount because of the historical consensus from the County Council from the last few years of dedicating the	00:48:15
	remainder of the CARES Act money towards the health department's need.	00:48:20
	OK, just as an FYI.	00:48:26
	Any further questions or discussion?	00:48:29
	All in favor of 7B say aye.	00:48:34
	Aye, any opposed?	00:48:36
	That carries and then I'm covering for Matt Lorch for an additional appropriation in their interpreter services line in their 1200	00:48:38
	fund.	00:48:42
	Motion to Approve 7.	00:48:48
	Second motion is second for seven C Any questions, discussion.	00:48:50
	All in favor say aye aye.	00:48:56
	Any opposed?	00:48:58
	That carries.	00:49:00
	Right, eight. We have Floyd County Council business.	00:49:02
	8A is for.	00:49:06
	Transfer Ordinance.	00:49:08
	The one item on there is.	00:49:10
	So.	00:49:19
	The motion would be for.	00:49:20
	A proven transfers.	00:49:25
	Without the 9146.	00:49:27
	Transfer.	00:49:30
	I'm sorry, 9188.	00:49:32
	Motion to approve 8A the.	00:49:37
	Ordinance for the February.	00:49:41
	Transfers.	00:49:43
	Without the.	00:49:45
	9188, Thank you.	00:49:49
	So we have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion on the transfers that we've gone through tonight?	00:49:54
	All in favor say aye.	00:50:02
	Any opposed?	00:50:04
	That carries.	00:50:06
	Bargaining board appointment.	00:50:07
	Yeah, just give.	00:50:13
	So at the original appointments, at the organizational meeting.	00:50:15
	The Council appointed 2 representatives for the bargaining committees. The.	00:50:19
	All of the bargaining committees.	00:50:25
	There's actually supposed to be 3.	00:50:27
	So a third individual needs to be assigned to the bargaining committees for this year, I will tell you.	00:50:29
	That I don't believe there's a Sheriff's Department bargaining unit up this year. You may have some conversations with members of	00:50:35
	their bargaining unit, but a true actual.	00:50:38
	Contract won't be under review this year so if you're looking for a lighter weight appointment.	00:50:43
	This would be a good one this year so and it's a way to get your feet wet.	00:50:47
	We'll be finishing up the road department and.	00:50:50
	Will be the new one is dispatched. You were on it, correct? I'm on it. Mr. Bagshaw, I believe is on it.	00:50:53
	So if one of the new members, yeah. Are we opening the floor for nominations for the president? Yeah, I nominate Tony Turing.	00:51:00
	You can accept it or not if you'd like. You can define. Yeah. You can decline if you'd like.	00:51:12
	I was gonna I think we have one.	00:51:17
	Remember that council member that has one committee appointment?	00:51:19
	I have two.	00:51:23
	You have to as well.	00:51:26
	I don't recall.	00:51:28
	Oh, OK, well.	00:51:29
	Well, OK, I was going to nominate.	00:51:31
	Sam Sarkinson.	00:51:34
	So I do decline.	00:51:36
	For which which committee before?	00:51:38
	Bargaining for.	00:51:41
	Road departments contract.	00:51:42
	And for?	00:51:44
	Dispatch for 911.	00:51:46
	I don't mind doing the road department.	00:51:48
	But I don't know about the district.	00:51:50
	You don't know anything about dispatch.	00:51:53
	OK, I'll do.	00:51:58
	Yeah.	00:51:59
	They come as a unit. We usually try to.	00:52:00
	All in favor of Sam for.	00:52:03
	Aye aye. Any opposed?	00:52:05
	I don't know that we have a second.	00:52:08
	There wasn't a second.	00:52:11
	Carried away there, I didn't want anything to change back out.	00:52:13
	AC.	00:52:19
	We tabled 8C. Is there any committee report, Jim, anything?	00:52:21
	I don't have anything.	00:52:29
	It means Matt.	00:52:30
	Sam Oh no, I've had enough.	00:52:34
	I'm good.	00:52:39
	I don't believe I have anything either, just be looking for emails.	00:52:41
	Rescheduling with page.	00:52:47
	Baker, Tilly.	00:52:49
	We talk about dates or we're going to wait for her to let us know when she's available.	00:52:50
	At this point, I think we're probably looking at early next week maybe.	00:52:56
	Let's let's talk about time of day. We can do that.	00:52:59
	Does anybody have a preference?	00:53:02
	I heard down here a little bit later in the day we could.	00:53:04
	Yeah, I just asked for after one if possible.	00:53:08
	Myself.	00:53:12
	I'm I'm out of town until next week.	00:53:13
	I couldn't do men.	00:53:18
	I can, I can.	00:53:21
	Well, actually, it's a team immediately.	00:53:23
	It was in the afternoon. I don't know if I can.	00:53:25
	And we can up to two council members.	00:53:30
	Well, we were talking about coming here to see the presentation on the big board, but I'll be out Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday too,	00:53:32
	but I can remote in.	00:53:36
	I I mean, this is kind of an important one. I'd rather wait.	00:53:41
	I'm out the first week of March 1st full week but.	00:53:46
	We can, uh.	00:53:49
	Can we do the last week in February?	00:53:50
	This, I mean, I do think this is going to really impact.	00:53:53
	How we move forward with some of the decisions that we're making.	00:53:58
	So once paid for flies, let us know, we suggest.	00:54:23
	The last week of February and date option I'm showing a joint meeting on the 25th.	00:54:28
	At 4:00.	00:54:33
	Oh, maybe we should just do it then we do it after that.	00:54:34
	Or during it.	00:54:38
	Honestly, I think this would be a really good thing for the commissioners to hear as well. I'll, I'll get with Alan, see if	00:54:40
	they're OK to sitting in on that. I'm sure they would be.	00:54:45
	Work. I work a lot better.	00:54:49
	OK.	00:54:53
	It starts at 4:00.	00:54:55
	Let's pencil it in for now and.	00:54:57
	If everybody's OK, then we'll send out a.	00:54:59
	Revised.	00:55:02
	How long is it?	00:55:03
	1520 minutes depending on how many questions we ask and then.	00:55:07
	You know, we usually try to cap the joint meeting in an hour. Al tries to be pretty.	00:55:13
	Prompt. But we, you know, we may extend it just a little bit for that.	00:55:17
	Might be an hour and a half.	00:55:21
	Maybe, yeah.	00:55:23
	Could be, but yeah, we need to, we need to get this one right and so.	00:55:24
	I agree.	00:55:29
	Will.	00:55:30
	I'll send out a follow up.	00:55:32
	When we have it.	00:55:37
	Nail down that that sounds.	00:55:39
	OK, any other?	00:55:41
	Steve's out.	00:55:46
	If y'all didn't hear so.	00:55:47
	He's got a pretty bad case, so.	00:55:50
	Keep him in your thoughts and prayers and.	00:55:52
	Too much.	00:55:58
	Oh yes.	00:55:59
	Anybody from public?	00:56:00
	Don't have everybody run to the mic.	00:56:03
	I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. So moved.	00:56:04
	Say all in favor.	00:56:07
	Aye, aye.	00:56:09