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Monday, I'm gonna start the day out here. We'll call to order this joint meeting of Floyd Kennedy, Commissioners and County 00:00:00
Council. If you have cell phone, please put the silent. 00:00:04
And. 00:00:09
We have a little bit of commissioners business we can begin with here in a minute, but if you'll join me for the Pledge of 00:00:11
Allegiance. 00:00:14
I pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:00:18
Of the United States of America. 00:00:21
To the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 00:00:23
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:27
I'll begin by seeking approval of the 11626 joint meeting minutes. 00:00:35
So moved second. 00:00:39
OK, all in favor, aye? 00:00:42
I abstain. 00:00:45
I wasn't here for the meeting. 00:00:47
I think we still have a quorum from both bodies. 00:00:50
Approve that. 00:00:52
I know we'll get a reminder afterwards, but there is a prototype of one of the ambulances. 00:00:53
Under discussion out in the parking lot. 00:01:01
And uh. 00:01:03
No rides and free tours and it's a. 00:01:04
Pretty nice looking. 00:01:07
Unit and substantial so. 00:01:09
Please feel free to go look at that after the meeting. 00:01:12
From the Commissioners standpoint, we have. 00:01:16
Really only one solo item on the agenda, but I want to add another one. 00:01:20
Look to add by unanimous consent. 00:01:25
Commissioner, item. 00:01:28
Number of. 00:01:29
We'll call it one. 00:01:30
1A regarding a local match commitment for the Edwardsville Community Center. 00:01:32
So moved. 00:01:39
All in favor, aye. I'd like to go ahead and begin with that discussion then. 00:01:41
So as you all may be aware. 00:01:49
Efforts for school project was a ready 2.0 funded project. 00:01:52
We received. 00:01:57
$2,050,000 in funding for that project and. 00:01:58
Uh, locally we commit. 00:02:03
Ended a match of a 5050 so 2.05 million. 00:02:04
For that. 00:02:09
Recent estimates for the construction on that project came in high. 00:02:12
Jim has to be demoed out. We had hoped to renovate that outright. 00:02:18
In you know the original estimates are several years old. 00:02:23
Buildings deteriorate in some SO. 00:02:28
We have new estimates that require. 00:02:32
An additional $500,000 to. 00:02:35
Do the construction renovation of that building. 00:02:39
That is, without the replacement of the gym, we do have an alternative bid or alternative alternative estimate. 00:02:44
For 900 thousand additional dollars. 00:02:51
916,000. 00:02:54
To replace the gin. 00:02:56
Ready 2 point. 00:02:59
Recently announced that they had some additional funding become available for actually $5 million. 00:03:01
They have an application period that we are currently in. 00:03:07
For that funding and we have requested. 00:03:11
The $916,000 to make up that difference. 00:03:14
In the meantime, they've requested that we provide updated application materials. 00:03:19
Materials for the project as it is today. 00:03:24
So in in that application they are requesting a local match commitment letter. 00:03:28
From the county for the amount as though we do not receive any additional funding. So that's what I'm here to request. 00:03:35
Did you get a copy? 00:03:43
So go one more time. So does this committing a new. 00:03:53
Tranche of money regardless of whether we get the match or not. 00:03:59
Yes, they are requesting we we commit. 00:04:02
To complete the project regardless of whether we get additional without. 00:04:05
The. 00:04:10
Jim, this is yeah, I, I, I submitted that if we were to commit that it would be. 00:04:11
The minimal amount required to commit. 00:04:18
To to make that a complete project we've already expended. 00:04:21
Nearly 1.8 million. 00:04:26
Dollars on the project the. 00:04:28
Highway. 00:04:30
See our State Route 62 and Carolyn Ave. intersection. 00:04:31
Was part of that project or part of the local match for that project? 00:04:35
As well as some site work that we've done, some regional drainage back there. 00:04:39
So we've already expended almost enough to. 00:04:44
Obtain the 5050. 00:04:47
Match for the 2.05 million. 00:04:49
They did advise me that if we did not complete. 00:04:53
This that, we could lose that. 00:04:55
Uh, that finding right And uh, this commitment, this lends me committed for completion. 00:04:58
I mean the additional. 00:05:05
Money is primarily going to go to the. 00:05:07
Demolition of the gym. 00:05:10
Demolition and renovation of the the building itself and we think the demolition. 00:05:12
We're hoping that we. 00:05:18
I know we're hoping to find a partner who will kind of step in for that, but. 00:05:20
Of that additional 500, the demolition accounts for how much of the extra 4050 thousand? 00:05:23
Where would the money come from? 00:05:32
Where would if we do not get the award? 00:05:36
If we do not get the additional ready to funding. 00:05:40
What is Are we gonna get it reimbursed if we? 00:05:43
No, it's not reimbursable though. 00:05:46
They'll provide it up front. 00:05:47
If we get the long puppy. 00:05:50
So I'm not. 00:05:51
OK. 00:05:53
So if we don't, there are some other options, you know. 00:05:55
The community projects one that the Congress. 00:05:59
Has that could be an option? 00:06:03
You know, we have the GO bond funds that did include facilities as legacy fund. 00:06:06
Like you see there, yeah. So there are some other options ideally. 00:06:12
You know we will. 00:06:16
Obtain the additional ready funding. 00:06:17
I think our project is. 00:06:20
#1 rated project in of of the 2.0. 00:06:22
Funding. 00:06:26
You know it checked all their boxes, so. 00:06:26
Yeah. Well, I don't like the uncertainty of it, but that's where we are and. 00:06:29
I I prefer the uncertainty of. 00:06:33
Having to find the funds rather than losing them all. So that's where I am on it. So I guess my question would be, we signed the 00:06:35
letter. 00:06:39
If they don't give us the money. 00:06:43
Are we obligated to spend the money? 00:06:45
Otherwise, or can we say, Oh well, we didn't get the money, we scrapped the project. 00:06:48
It it it's uh. 00:06:54
I don't know how bad. 00:06:56
Indian work match commitment letter is I mean. 00:06:58
We've already committed. We've submitted one of these for 2.05. 00:07:00
And. 00:07:05
You know, maybe we if we don't get the funding, we look at the scope of the project and change that. 00:07:08
We can always tell the County Council didn't approve. 00:07:13
Yeah, I was wondering when the County Council was going to get in on the money part of this. I just threw you in. 00:07:17
I will say the funds already expended were from ARP funds and the Edwardsville and TIF bond. 00:07:25
Yeah. 00:07:33
OK, well, I'll make a motion that we sign the letter and. 00:07:35
Go forward with it. 00:07:40
All right, again, this is the commissioners agenda. Only have a motion. I got a second. 00:07:41
All in favor, aye aye. 00:07:47
Alright, there's your letter. Item number 1B, the Redevelopment Commission, the Caribbean, Mike Fulkerson's funding of Indiana 00:07:53
Small Business Development Center. 00:07:57
Mr. Fulkerson came to the meeting early. He gave everybody. 00:08:02
Copies that you should have in front of you because. 00:08:07
Concentrate his. 00:08:11
Presentation down to 2 pages, which is. 00:08:13
Commendable. 00:08:16
Almost as good as one page. That's our 2 pages. Fantastic. The distilling. 00:08:17
Yes, so. 00:08:22
If you want to. 00:08:24
Walk us through the 2 pages or for anybody who's already read it can hold questions for Mike for. 00:08:25
A few minutes from now. 00:08:31
All right. And I'll jump in and give you all a little background information on who we are as an organization. Then we'll jump 00:08:32
into those two slides. 00:08:36
But I'm Mike Fulkerson on the regional director for the Southeast region of the SBDC. 00:08:39
We do touch all 92 counties within the state of Indiana. 00:08:44
Our centers are broken into 10 different regions. Again, we are the southeast region. 00:08:48
Which is 14 counties? Which Ford County is one of those counties? 00:08:52
In our office we do employ 7 people including myself. 00:08:56
So we've got myself as the Rd. We have 4 business advisors. 00:09:01
One ecosystem navigator than an office administrator. 00:09:04
Day in and day out, those individuals are working towards. 00:09:08
Helping entrepreneurs start grow. 00:09:12
And sustained successful businesses. 00:09:15
Our mission at the SBDC is to provide high quality. 00:09:18
No cost confidential business advising, training and resources. 00:09:21
To existing and prospective small business owners. 00:09:25
We do work with businesses at every stage. 00:09:29
Of development from startup and ideation. 00:09:33
Through growth initiatives. 00:09:36
And now we're seeing a lot of clients come to us for succession planning. 00:09:38
They're getting close to retirement. They would have put a plan together. 00:09:41
That continues to build value in that company so they can exit it. 00:09:44
Either through a sale or through a transition to a family member. 00:09:47
But. 00:09:52
I would say you know. 00:09:53
We provide a lot of services, a lot of resources, a lot of programs. 00:09:54
The one we're most known for is definitely the the one-on-one confidential advising. 00:09:58
With our clients, I I did a quick tally of the topics that we hit upon the most with our clients. 00:10:04
When we're advising that, the six topics to come up the most are business, startup, and formalization. 00:10:11
Financial analysis and cash flow management. 00:10:16
Access to capital. 00:10:19
And lender preparation. 00:10:20
Marketing and customer acquisition strategies. 00:10:22
Operational efficiency and growth planning. 00:10:25
And workforce planning and retention. 00:10:28
In some of the outcomes that we see from these advising sessions. 00:10:31
Once they take what we have talked about back to work. 00:10:35
We see increased numbers of sustainable small businesses. 00:10:38
Higher business revenues and capitalization levels. 00:10:42
Job creation and retention for those within Floyd County. 00:10:45
Reduce small business failure rates and long-term growth. 00:10:49
Of the local tax base. 00:10:52
Some other programs that we have available not just to our clients, but to the community. 00:10:55
As a whole, 1 is the Indiana Technical Assistance Program. 00:11:01
Another is the Export Indiana Accelerator program, but there is a small business. 00:11:05
That wants to look into selling their products in Canada or Mexico or over the ocean. 00:11:10
We have programs that will help them formulate. 00:11:14
In exporting business plan. 00:11:19
Put them in touch with consulates. 00:11:21
Educate them on tariffs and legalities. 00:11:23
If you all could now. 00:11:27
That first slide, you're going to see some metrics on it. 00:11:30
On the left hand side, those are our calendar year metrics. This is what we saw throughout the year 2025. 00:11:33
Clients serve throughout our region were 638. 00:11:40
New businesses started throughout our region were 42. 00:11:44
Jobs supported and these are jobs saved or jobs added. 00:11:47
Due to a business owner working directly with the SBDC. 00:11:51
We saw 2311. 00:11:55
Job supported. 00:11:58
Capital transactions throughout the region we saw 92 and the dollar value of those transactions was 7.4 million. 00:12:00
What a capital transaction is. 00:12:07
That that's growth capital. 00:12:09
So if a business has some kind of an initiative going on, maybe they need a bigger place, maybe they need new equipment. 00:12:11
They can come to us, we will help them prepare a loan packet. 00:12:17
Introduce them to the banks, kind of shepherd them through that process. 00:12:21
So that 7.4 million is money that came through the banks last year to these small businesses for those growth initiatives. 00:12:24
On the right hand side you'll see Floyd County. So I broke out everything we've seen in 2025 and Floyd County. 00:12:32
A client served 118. 00:12:38
And that's 18% of our total region clients out of 14 counties. 00:12:40
New businesses started in Floyd County. We saw six. That's 14%. 00:12:45
Of our regional total. 00:12:49
Capital transactions right here in Floyd County, we saw 20. 00:12:51
That's 22%. 00:12:55
In that growth, capital total $2.9 million in 2025. 00:12:57
For small businesses here in Floyd County. 00:13:02
Down below I put some topics that a lot of people. 00:13:06
Don't think about when you hear the word small business, but 99.4%. 00:13:09
Of businesses in Indiana or small businesses. 00:13:13
As long as they are not in what we call a vice industry. 00:13:17
We will work with them. We work with manufacturers, we work with mom and pop coffee shops. 00:13:21
And everybody in between. 00:13:25
And then that last bullet point on that slide, you know, at the end of the day. 00:13:28
Our main goal really is to reduce small business failure. 00:13:32
It says you all know. 00:13:35
Running a business is complex on a good day. 00:13:37
You take all the global terminology going on right now, everything. 00:13:40
Is is definitely putting pressure on the small business owner. 00:13:44
If you all go to that next slide. 00:13:49
You've heard me say a few times that all of our services are free and confidential. 00:13:53
They're free because we are funded by grants. 00:13:58
On the federal side as well as on the state side, Federal comes from SBA. 00:14:01
State comes from IE DC. 00:14:05
Our federal grant does have to be matched dollar for dollar. 00:14:07
Through Community cash match. 00:14:10
On the left hand side, you'll see a listing of organizations throughout our regional footprint. 00:14:13
Who have contributed? 00:14:18
To that 2026 cash match. 00:14:19
Those organizations have contributed a total so far of 98,980. 00:14:22
In order to maximize every dollar we get through the SBA. 00:14:28
This year we need to raise 129,675. 00:14:32
That leaves us with a current deficit of $30,000. 00:14:37
695. 00:14:40
Whenever I speak to organizations, to counties, to municipalities. 00:14:43
I definitely look at where the activity is throughout our 14 county footprint. 00:14:48
Floyd County and Clark County are always kind of right neck and neck. 00:14:53
Last year we served just a few more clients in Floyd County. 00:14:58
But county wide, I'm sorry Jeffersonville saw a few more clients than. 00:15:02
New Albany and Floyd camp. 00:15:06
But both counties knock it out of the park. 00:15:08
So we try to look at where we're focusing our services. 00:15:11
And provide our cash match ask based on where we are seeing the bulk of that activity. 00:15:14
Based on that I am asking. 00:15:20
Respectfully for $15,000 in cash match. 00:15:22
Towards our SBA grant. 00:15:27
I know I covered a lot there. There's probably a lot of questions you still have, so let me open the floor to answer any questions 00:15:30
you want. 00:15:33
No, I don't think the question we had a lengthier presentation that. 00:15:45
Rebel Commission, which is one reason I don't have any questions at present and I can't recall the ones that you spoke of. Nikki, 00:15:50
anything to add with Verge to? 00:15:54
How we got here from redevelopment. 00:16:00
No, I will just say that redevelopment obviously poured this, so I'm favorably recommended. 00:16:03
There was discussion at that. 00:16:10
Meeting that, some potential funding sources might be worried about both. 00:16:11
Funds, but so I I. 00:16:15
Question. 00:16:18
So you're already doing this in our community. In fact, do you put on that small bit or help? 00:16:20
With the small business where they. 00:16:26
Presented out at IUS and then they award. 00:16:29
Yes, Should you help with that? 00:16:32
That is correct. I was the chair of that organization. 00:16:34
That actually grew out of me getting stakeholders together to see how we can build the ecosystem in Floyd County as well as Clark, 00:16:38
and all of that grew out of that conversation. 00:16:42
Yeah. 00:16:47
It's it's a, it's a good. 00:16:48
Program. 00:16:50
That's the next big thing, pitch competition. 00:16:51
Yes, yes, yes. 00:16:53
The Big Pit. 00:16:54
You're right. I I. 00:16:55
I personally think this needs to be a grant out of the Legacy Foundation again I. 00:16:59
I I think that's what that. 00:17:06
Was four and. 00:17:07
I think this is a good program. We should keep it going in our community. 00:17:10
I think it should come up, come from there. 00:17:14
I'll make a motion that we. 00:17:17
Send this over to the Legacy Foundation grant process. 00:17:21
Well the only issue is they would have to file for a grant through that. 00:17:25
And then pushes it out probably till the end of the year. 00:17:28
Till what is September is when do we? When do we? 00:17:31
Yeah, it is. 00:17:36
June Yeah, that is the IC value in it. 00:17:41
$15,000 I mean, I do too. I mean, I do see value, it's just a matter of where you take it from. 00:17:45
And so I don't know what you have in riverboat at the moment. Riverboat. 00:17:50
I don't know what you have in it. 00:17:55
More than 15,000. 00:17:57
OK. Are you looking? 00:18:01
Just totally not financial questions. What? How do you find a small business under 20, under 25, under 50? 00:18:04
Well, it depends on the industry. There are some sub sectors of manufacturing where we can work with the company if they have 500 00:18:11
employees. 00:18:16
But we, we go about that federal SBA breakdown, well, just I just saw 99.4% our small business, there should be a number 00:18:20
associated with that. 00:18:25
In my view, yeah. Let me see if I can get that for you. I can send it to you. I don't know the number offhand, but it is 99.4%. 00:18:31
That is a vetted number. 00:18:34
How do you divvy up the matches? I see where these other organizations have matched between 2020 thousand, so how do you divvy up 00:18:39
how you asked? 00:18:43
Yep, there are some extremely rural communities where we work with clients. 00:18:48
A lot of those the cash match funding has come from Main St. organizations. 00:18:54
Those are going to be closer to the 2003 thousand. 00:19:00
Dollar level and the reason they do contribute some of these we don't even have to ask for and come and ask for just because they 00:19:03
see the value. 00:19:06
That we provide the small business community. 00:19:10
And they know that those dollars that the return on investment is incredibly strong. 00:19:12
It looks to me like we got $130,000 in there. 00:19:21
Which is a lot. 00:19:24
Is that right now? 00:19:26
Learning that, have it cleared as of today. So it's actually closer to 120,000 that's left in there, OK. 00:19:29
I move, we take. 00:19:38
15,000 out of riverboat. 00:19:39
You can make a consensus. 00:19:41
OK, it's not been everything all right, but it won't be available for marches meeting either. It will have to be at either Marches 00:19:43
joint meeting or April because the advertisement meeting. 00:19:48
Announced this morning. 00:19:53
Do you OK? 00:20:00
For the March joint meeting. 00:20:03
March regular meeting. 00:20:04
OK, if it was part of the advertisement she filed this morning, we're good to go. So census it's. 00:20:08
And your consensus? Yeah, already advertised. 00:20:14
Or will be advertised for. 00:20:16
March County Council meeting out of riverboat. 00:20:18
I'm seeing yeses down there, all good. 00:20:23
OK, so we'll take an official vote at our March meeting. 00:20:26
OK. 00:20:30
15,000 Riverboat. 00:20:31
OK. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 00:20:34
All right, Next up, Michelle Portwood. 00:20:36
Discuss. Easy hire. 00:20:43
Right, so. 00:20:47
For those of you who've not heard of I no longer have a free option. 00:20:50
Of posting positions for the county. 00:20:55
Indeed, change their rules as of January 1st of this year. 00:20:58
And I can only post 3 jobs per month. 00:21:03
And they will only stay posted for 30 days. 00:21:06
After that they automatically close. 00:21:09
So last year I posted 42 jobs. 00:21:13
On indeed, if we continue with indeed. 00:21:17
It would be at bare minimum. 00:21:21
$100 per job. 00:21:24
So if you subtract the. 00:21:26
42 jobs that I've posted and you know. 00:21:30
Let's just say I have. 00:21:33
I anyway. 00:21:36
It'll be cheaper to use Easy Hire, which is a product of Lao. 00:21:37
Which were already using for financial payroll. 00:21:42
And HR work. 00:21:46
So. 00:21:48
$8950 this year. 00:21:50
But next year it the majority that money. 00:21:53
Is the implementation fee. 00:21:56
Next year it'll be about 3500. 00:21:59
So I'm seeking approval. 00:22:02
To sign the quote. 00:22:05
For to get started with the easy hire, there's and a consensus from council to to do an additional appropriation at the March 00:22:08
meeting. 00:22:12
All right, so just so everyone knows that I. 00:22:17
I should have posted 12 jobs. 00:22:21
This year. 00:22:25
I've had. 00:22:26
Three and Plan Commission I if the Council approves. 00:22:27
Community corrections new job next month. That'll be 3 for Community Corrections and there's always 2 for Open Door Youth 00:22:32
Services. 00:22:36
So. 00:22:41
Sorry. 00:22:43
That's not fun, but anyway that that's. 00:22:44
Which is a lot more than where where do they get posted to? So I know people go to indeed and. 00:22:47
Right. So that was my exact question. Yeah, that was my question too. 00:22:54
So once I post them on easy hire it gets sent out to 20 other free. 00:23:00
Uh, posting sites. 00:23:07
So it's kind of an organic process, so. 00:23:09
All of the posting sites want to be known as the best, so that means. 00:23:13
Indeed or Zip recruiter. So and to be known that way, you've got to say I have all the jobs. 00:23:18
So indeed and other posting sites will go to all these free sites. 00:23:26
And they'll scoop them up and they'll post those jobs. 00:23:31
For. 00:23:35
You some more people see you. 00:23:37
So. 00:23:39
Just so I understand. 00:23:40
To follow up on her question, so if I'm a student at IUS. 00:23:42
And I'm looking for a work. 00:23:46
I never heard of easy hire. 00:23:49
No, I'm gonna look at Indeed, CareerBuilder, Zip Recruiter. 00:23:50
Those three off the top of my head. 00:23:55
Right. Yeah, but how? How does the person get to easy hire or they don't? 00:23:57
They don't. 00:24:03
8 Easy hire is just the applicant tracking system. 00:24:04
So that's where they get posted. 00:24:09
And from that system they get pushed out to. 00:24:11
20 different free postings. 00:24:15
MMM. 00:24:18
The quiz is that those main places? 00:24:19
Gary Date. 00:24:23
Source from those free sites. 00:24:25
They use them as sources so CareerBuilder takes them from easy hire. 00:24:27
It's not from easy hire but from the 23 sites because these hire posts than the 2. 00:24:32
Is the mechanism that pushes them out. 00:24:38
It's almost like a networking system for for looking for new hires, right? 00:24:40
So you put it you can see higher easy. Higher pushes it out to 23 sites, the main. 00:24:44
Career building sites. 00:24:49
Source from those places. 00:24:51
Because not everybody is going to pay to post more than three jobs that are going to afford to do that, and they know that. 00:24:53
They're not stupid. 00:24:56
So they're going to go out there because more jobs they have available, the more people are going to look. 00:25:00
So you've seen this work. 00:25:05
Yes, Lao has had this in. 00:25:07
Place for a long time and a lot of the other counties use it. 00:25:09
Yes, and I've heard from other HR people in other counties. 00:25:12
Let's say yes, it works well. 00:25:16
OK. What did you budget for recruiting this year? 00:25:19
0. 00:25:24
Yes, I found out about the Indeed change on January 5th. 00:25:27
After I posted three jobs. 00:25:32
And it was like, OK. 00:25:35
I'm done for the month. 00:25:37
And they always stay up in 30 days, right? And they only stay active for 30 days. 00:25:41
Well, it sounds to me like we don't. 00:25:47
Have another option here? 00:25:49
I would say financially is the best option, otherwise we're going to have to create a budget for AD. 00:25:51
Yeah, I mean what I've been doing, Well, it sounds like you create a budget anyhow. 00:25:56
To your point. 00:26:01
Thanks, Frank. 00:26:03
So what I've been doing in the interim is posting the jobs under employment on the county's website. 00:26:05
So what that does is as. 00:26:12
People happen to go to the county's website. 00:26:14
Happens to see the jobs that are posted. 00:26:18
They'll e-mail me and say I'm interested in XYZ job. 00:26:20
I poured it on to the hiring manager. 00:26:25
So it's. 00:26:28
How much is the ongoing uh? 00:26:31
What? What would it would it be? 00:26:35
Some kind of fee to keep this going once it's implemented? Yeah, that's the 35135 hundred. OK, I'm sorry to hear that. 00:26:37
So are we. We're too late for. 00:26:46
March, there are no additional appropriations, but we have this filed for March. 00:26:48
For no additional appropriations for this meeting, as I've sent out in that e-mail, so we can take this up in the margin Council 00:26:53
consensus today to allow the commissioners to make a decision concerning the quote that she received. 00:26:58
And then you can take it up as a vote for an appropriation in March. 00:27:03
So we can't go around either. 00:27:08
A weekend, but so since there was no no budget line for this. 00:27:10
Well, Bonita. 00:27:16
It happens at the time of the appropriation. 00:27:18
Magically appears to be laugh. 00:27:21
Consensus to take this up at our March meeting. Everybody good with that and we'll have a. 00:27:23
Funding source at that point. 00:27:29
Alright, thank you. And then I'll look for a motion to approve the quote. 00:27:32
As presented, so moved. 00:27:36
2nd. 00:27:38
All in favor, aye? 00:27:40
All right. Thank you. You may want to stay there though, because I want to ask. 00:27:42
Christy and Nick and Stan to come up and join us for Item 3, Which? 00:27:45
I think anybody that's been Privy to some of these. 00:27:50
Discussions on solid waste. 00:27:52
We may or may not need your input on this. 00:27:54
But. 00:27:58
As of midnight on the 28th. 00:27:59
The solid waste district. 00:28:02
Will be dissolved and the solid waste. 00:28:04
Department of Floyd County will be resurrected. 00:28:08
And at the beginning of. 00:28:10
The year I think you had budgeted $400,000 towards recycling. 00:28:13
And so. 00:28:17
We're looking for an ongoing way to fund this as. 00:28:19
Traditionally as a department has been funded with regards to the council picking up. 00:28:22
The funding for the payroll aspect of that. 00:28:27
The budget that we put together for solid waste for. 00:28:32
The year. 00:28:37
That we presented to them was and I should have had you to come up there too. Sorry about that. Was Is that 300,000? 00:28:38
At this point right now, correct? 00:28:44
We told them. 00:28:47
250 for operations and 50,000 for the household hazardous waste contract that. 00:28:48
We should hopefully soon be executing. 00:28:55
From the. 00:29:00
Sole entry that we got back from the RFP so. 00:29:00
Right. 00:29:06
So yeah, I should have had Diana come up to the beginning on this. So. 00:29:08
So the direction that. 00:29:13
After some conversations with the commissioners and stand and Miss Fox and Michelle. 00:29:16
Just as a recap. 00:29:21
Obviously. 00:29:22
Recycling isn't going away. 00:29:23
We're keeping it, which is great. 00:29:25
But as it's being absorbed by the county and kind of back under the auditor's umbrella as it was formerly. 00:29:27
Some adjustments had to be made the Commission. 00:29:34
Very proactively created. 00:29:37
A protected home rule fund. Fund #4013. 00:29:40
That will be primarily operational costs, so no salaries because there's no guarantee to. 00:29:44
Keep enough monies in that fund for salaries and moving people around. 00:29:50
Mid year or quarterly is. 00:29:54
Quite frankly, a pain. 00:29:56
They did budget $400,000 in the edit fund for recycling. 00:29:59
This year, that's still there. 00:30:04
So the only place we're looking, the only thing really that they need at this point is a home for salaries. 00:30:07
We did advertise for the March meeting to give the Council. 00:30:13
Some wiggle room $150,000 in the general fund. 00:30:17
Because. 00:30:21
The salaries for solid waste used to be housed. 00:30:22
In the general fund. 00:30:25
They were Department 0506. 00:30:28
Fact that I know that still after having done payroll for them since 2020 is. 00:30:30
Really just sad. 00:30:35
That I know the department. Never off the top of my head. 00:30:36
So the categories would be the director, the administrative assistant and then other employees which would be the part time 00:30:42
employees that work. I think at present they have 11 part time employees. 00:30:47
They have 9 in total. 9 in total. OK, so 7. 00:30:53
Cortana Play. 00:30:58
Because the administrative assistant, I forget that she's part time. 00:30:59
So you would have a director line. 00:31:04
An administrative assistant line and then. 00:31:06
Align for the other employees. 00:31:08
Obviously we're coming in in March, so it wouldn't be the full amount required for their salaries. We've at this point we've 00:31:12
advertised. 00:31:16
$40,000 for the Director role. 00:31:20
25,000 for the administrative assistant and then 85,000 for the other assist. 00:31:23
The other employees, those part time workers. 00:31:28
This can be transferred as needed in between each other if for some reason. 00:31:30
My mouth was way off. 00:31:35
But they're looking for a home. 00:31:38
So Michelle, I believe, has job descriptions and an updated salary ordinance. 00:31:40
For those positions. 00:31:46
And Stanley worked very well with me on making sure that we had an advertised budget for 4013 which will house. 00:31:48
All of the finances that come from solid waste any. 00:31:54
Any financial gain from offloading any equipment or anything like that and any donations? So it is a non reverting fund specific 00:32:01
to solid waste so no one else can touch it and the only thing it goes towards is solid waste operations and improvement. 00:32:06
And then of course. 00:32:13
I believe that the commissioners intend to supplement using edit as needed when it comes to operational costs, but what we're 00:32:15
looking for is a consensus from the council as far as where to set these people up in payroll. 00:32:20
150,000 in the general fund. 00:32:26
It is doable. 00:32:29
Or. 00:32:30
Whatever you all decide, but again, remember. 00:32:32
Additional advertisements, So any additional appropriations? 00:32:34
Cannot be done for the March meeting after today, they're already done. 00:32:38
We did this as a buffer so you had a discussion available and we could make a vote. 00:32:42
In March and we can go ahead and get these people set up in payroll. 00:32:47
For these salaries that we're talking about included in the 400,000 that was they were. 00:32:49
What's happening to the 400,000? 00:32:56
That would be a question for. Again, it was an edit fund, so it will be reabsorbed in the fund, possibly reallocated to. 00:32:59
Other projects where it's needed. 00:33:08
Since edit is specific to economic development, we do have a lot of that going on in the county. That would be a question more for 00:33:10
the CFO. 00:33:14
For the auditor. 00:33:18
Can we transfer out of the edit fund? You need to though. 00:33:22
Edit Funds monies cannot leave edit. 00:33:25
It is the really part of the legislation for economic development. 00:33:28
And to that point though, my question would be it might require a legal opinion. 00:33:32
But any miscellaneous revenues generated that are deposited into the edit fund, can they be reallocated over to? 00:33:37
Sustain. 00:33:45
The funds can be moved around there. 00:33:48
No, not the edit funds themselves. Miscellaneous revenues generated better. 00:33:51
OK. That would put into the edit fund not not generated from the revenue not. 00:33:57
I generate from the state state specifically for either in certified chairs or expenditure fund. 00:34:04
And can we? And there have been some. 00:34:09
Yes. Can we get a ruling on that? I don't care. I mean, I think the hope was that the council would pick up the salaries from the 00:34:11
general fund. 00:34:15
And the Commissioners pay the operational costs out of. 00:34:20
4013, that has been 4013, correct? Yeah. Thank you in edit. 00:34:24
How much are they paying? How much are the commissioners paying? The difference would be 300 and. 00:34:29
It's and so it's. 00:34:33
It's right at. 00:34:35
So you've got 150,000, right? Yeah, 150 in general, I think a little bit higher. It is. It's a higher estimate. 00:34:36
And and then 150 currently budgeted for operational costs, but obviously if the operational costs go above that 150. 00:34:43
Then edit will have to supplement it. 00:34:50
As opposed to none of the operational costs will be in the general. 00:34:52
So just salary. 00:34:56
And does that include the household hazardous waste? 00:34:58
That that would come out of. 00:35:02
And for the 4013 and then solid waste currently has how much approximately in their? 00:35:04
Existing accounts, they have a current money market account which I think it's about 160, sixty, 5000. 00:35:09
Then they have a checking account with about 18 to 20,000. 00:35:16
Right. And where is that going that's we'll go into the 4013 correctness, right? 00:35:20
The 150, there's one full time employee. 00:35:26
So is the 150 and all in number? Does that include benefits and? 00:35:30
Yeah, it's an all in number. That's an all in for the rest of this year. And actually it's an overestimate for the rest of this 00:35:34
year. 00:35:36
I I mean we budgeted 400,000. 00:35:40
I would like to move at least part of that. 00:35:42
Out of the edit find. 00:35:46
And into. 00:35:49
And then into that. 00:35:51
Whatever is agreed to as fully, fully budgeted fully. 00:35:54
For the. 00:35:59
Solid waste for the recycling for the year. 00:36:02
In to the 4013 fully budgeted in that. 00:36:06
You don't, I mean you don't have to move it if if they budgeted. 00:36:11
I'm going to speak to this far more, but if they budget 400 that they only spend 200 out of there, that's OK, but they don't want 00:36:14
to pay out of the. 00:36:18
Of the edit fund anymore they want to pay out of 4013. 00:36:23
The the the salaries. 00:36:27
I want the whole recycling to be fresh. 00:36:29
Fully funded in the 4013. 00:36:32
That's what I would like to see. 00:36:37
I don't know why we would have it in two or three different places. 00:36:40
There's actually a lot of departments that pay out of like. 00:36:45
5 or 6 different places. There's no reason to. It's good we can keep this. I would say that would be a. 00:36:49
I I I'm really honestly not certain. 00:36:56
If that would be a Commissioner call as far as moving. 00:36:59
The miscellaneous revenue, and I honestly can't even identify, I know you probably could. What's the miscellaneous revenue? 00:37:03
OK. 00:37:11
And we'd have to research and make sure it's not state distributions and all of those things. 00:37:15
The point is, come March 1st, I have to have somewhere to put these people. 00:37:20
And right now, 4013 technically, right now on paper and in essence, 4013 can't fund them. 00:37:25
Well, they can. They're going to have 170,000. 00:37:33
That's operational costs. 00:37:35
That covers operational for the rest of the year, not salary. 00:37:37
This happens his operation. 00:37:42
There's the state views it a little differently. 00:37:45
OK. 00:37:47
And there's kind of two issues going on here, right? Wherever we have to do what we're doing now to cover for this year, but then 00:37:49
also setting up for what we're going to do. 00:37:53
Going forward, yes. 00:37:57
Well, but setting up for what we're going to do forward edit is going to be gone. 00:37:58
There will not be an edit. 00:38:03
In 2028. 00:38:04
We will be. We will be using. 00:38:06
Some will have to. 00:38:09
All the edit revenue is going to be generated. 00:38:11
Forwarded to the accounting general, right, So it will be gone. So we're just the general fund 20262027 general budget is. 00:38:14
Right. 00:38:24
So and and the reality is general can support this. It's not and and moving them to where they're going to wind up. 00:38:25
In two years anyways makes it where I don't have to move them again, but it's already budgeted. 00:38:31
In edit why don't we take the money out of there where it was budgeted at? 00:38:36
And move it where it now is $400,000 worth of worth of miscellaneous income that is not state. 00:38:41
Regulated. 00:38:50
Then whatever you guys want. 00:38:51
But I can't guarantee that. 00:38:55
Because I haven't done the research on the miscellaneous income for edit will the miscellaneous income. 00:38:56
Roll over. 00:39:01
It always does. Everything goes back to cash. 00:39:02
I'll make sure I understand you. I'm just saying, does it stay in the if if we fund this out of general for? 00:39:06
The rest of 26, we can take a look at this going forward. 00:39:12
When we get. 00:39:16
Yes. 00:39:17
You can take all as many times as you want, I just need a home to start them out in. 00:39:18
The the budget may look different next year for for one year we. 00:39:22
I think what we were doing is collectively are trying to come up with a solid foundation to house the edit operations. 00:39:26
And then the employees themselves. 00:39:32
We didn't see, we can't beat in the future see what it's a little bit clearly. 00:39:34
We were just trying to make sure that we had all of our bases covered to establish a solid foundation. 00:39:37
Just a transition form. We're observing 9 employees on the same day. 00:39:43
Yeah. 00:39:47
My payroll clerk needs to know where to pay them from. 00:39:48
OK. 00:39:51
I'm confused. 00:39:53
I am. I'm just I'm just a logical guy. But we. 00:39:56
Budgeted 400,000 in edit and that was going to pay for recycling this year right? 00:40:00
So that that was the the Commissioners commitment. 00:40:05
To assist funding in the solid waste district. So how much were they going to spend? More than 400,000. Their budget was 00:40:09
significantly higher than 400,000. 00:40:13
So what they did they they also get cadet mining, They get what, twelve $1400 a month from from the state? 00:40:18
Uh, from for the. 00:40:25
Just for the cat from the cadet distributions from the state, then they also had. 00:40:27
Their generated revenues that would actually. 00:40:31
Revert back to. 00:40:34
Semi, I think, yeah. 00:40:36
David Maskell had alluded to about $60,000 they got from last year. 00:40:38
So that money then would be. 00:40:43
Redeposited back into the. 00:40:45
Solid waste district as well so. 00:40:47
You had a. 00:40:49
400,000 plus the casual funds plus the generated revenues. 00:40:50
And the reality was the commissioners were gonna have to find somewhere else to fund it from anyways, because historically we used 00:40:54
to cut a check from edit. 00:40:58
And move it. 00:41:01
And we got yelled at by the SBOA for that last year. 00:41:03
We can't move. 00:41:07
Income. 00:41:10
From Ed. 00:41:11
Unless we can prove without a doubt that those dollars are not state generated. 00:41:13
Is that out there? 00:41:18
A little bit I just. 00:41:20
I guess. 00:41:22
I'll just say it. 00:41:24
I'll take the arrows. 00:41:25
I don't know why government has to fund. 00:41:27
Subsidized recycling. 00:41:29
Because government is absorbing it, it's become a department of the county. 00:41:31
I know, but I'm just. 00:41:35
Just in general. 00:41:36
Why do we have to subsidize recycling? 00:41:37
I live in New Albany. I pay a fee. 00:41:40
I pay a fee in New Albany $18.00 a month and my friend minister connect with us too. 00:41:44
Yeah. And you it's, it's, I hope as things go forward that a private entity will step up and offer curbside services to the county 00:41:49
and you know, so. 00:41:53
But in the meantime, that didn't happen and. 00:41:57
This is where we are fled. 00:42:00
We we feel like it's an important. 00:42:02
Enough service that we want to continue to. 00:42:05
Subsidized it, just like electricity was and water was Once Upon a time, until we can get. 00:42:08
The infrastructure in place for. 00:42:14
Private industry to see the. 00:42:17
The need or the necessity or the? 00:42:20
The value in it, you know. 00:42:24
So, umm. 00:42:25
Anyway, that's. 00:42:28
Those discussions took the better part of about six months, but that's where we landed. 00:42:29
Can I be completely honest? 00:42:33
I'm sorry, can I be completely honest for a moment? 00:42:35
I'm incredibly disappointed with the conversations that are happening here, just so we're all aware, mostly because there were a 00:42:39
few on the council's body that were very. 00:42:43
Supportive of the county retaining recycling. 00:42:48
And the fact that there. 00:42:51
Not willing to at least find, even if it's a temporary home. 00:42:56
A guaranteed place to pay them from right now is a bit challenging for me. 00:43:00
The commissioners put in a lot of work. 00:43:06
I've put in a lot of work, Stanley put in a lot of work. 00:43:08
Miss Fox put in a lot of work to try and make this. 00:43:11
Absorption. 00:43:14
Of the district for our county to retain recycling services. 00:43:15
As smooth as possible and give the Council as many options as we could within. 00:43:19
Within reason because we don't have a Magic 8 ball. 00:43:24
Are these people have to be paid? 00:43:29
Their their first paycheck is is March 6th. 00:43:31
Are we gonna tell me where I'm hanging from? Are we gonna unappropriate the 400,000? 00:43:35
Or whatever portion we don't need. 00:43:40
Yes. 00:43:42
How much? 00:43:43
I have no idea. 00:43:44
So. 00:43:47
I think. 00:43:48
You only bought it at least 50 some odd thousand for the household hazardous waste. 00:43:49
Yeah, it's already been brought up that whatever happens at the next meeting. 00:43:56
It's temporary for 26. 00:44:00
This whole issue. 00:44:03
Will be revisited. 00:44:04
For the 27 budget cycle. 00:44:06
This is just to get started. 00:44:09
And that's it. 00:44:12
It's gotta be revisited when we submit a budget for. 00:44:14
Next year. 00:44:18
Which is in. 00:44:19
What, four months? 00:44:21
Hopefully it's warm by then. 00:44:23
I was getting 15 minutes. I think we have a consensus to. 00:44:29
Right to move, to move forward. It's just temporary. 00:44:35
The general fund. 00:44:38
Michelle has job descriptions that are going to need approval from the council as well as an updated salary ordinance to reflect 00:44:40
those. 00:44:44
I have one question. 00:44:48
Are we, are we locked into these? 00:44:49
I mean if we find that we can do, I know we have 11 part time employees, 912 employees, eight part time. 00:44:51
And I don't know of all the job duties, but. 00:44:59
Are those are those permanent locked in positions or? 00:45:02
No. 00:45:07
Gracious. OK, they're just to start us out. 00:45:07
OK. 00:45:10
I'm good. Do you need another job? I just. I just had. Do you want a part time job? I just asked no. 00:45:12
The only thing I can tell you is stay tuned. 00:45:18
We're working diligently to make this happen and we're trying to make it as cost effective as possible and. 00:45:20
Honor several piece. 00:45:28
People's wishes in the community. 00:45:29
To retain some form of recycling for Floyd County. Think you know what direction? 00:45:31
Yes. 00:45:38
We're good. 00:45:39
OK, umm. 00:45:42
Yeah, Diana, we are on Item 4, which is the discussion of digital Records project. 00:45:44
Do you want them to prove the job sections tonight even though salary organs will be in March or? 00:45:51
Preference. Do you have the job descriptions? If they wouldn't, I do not have them with me. The job description, yeah, we review 00:45:57
them. 00:46:00
Commissioners, but not the Council marches agenda. 00:46:04
With an updated salary ordinance, yes to adopt. 00:46:09
OK. 00:46:14
Sorry you guys, you're out of time. You're 2 minutes ago. Listen. 00:46:16
I'm not going to take much time. This is just me saying please please please. 00:46:19
Please please. 00:46:24
Seriously consider this digital records project. 00:46:27
The first estimate that we received. 00:46:31
Was less than $400,000 and it covers. 00:46:34
Really three of your largest departments as far as when it comes to record keeping. 00:46:37
And then the commissioners in HR, so we're talking the treasurer's office, the auditor's office, HR commissioners and the CEO and 00:46:42
planning office. 00:46:46
That's a lot. 00:46:50
A paper documentation. 00:46:51
That could be saved. 00:46:53
So what's not covered in the 400,000? 00:46:56
I'm a punchline guy. 00:47:00
I don't know other offices I don't know. 00:47:01
This is we told them to give us a first stage estimate. 00:47:03
Because we knew this project was going to take years. 00:47:06
No, I get it. And I believe that we have a tsunami that we're facing, but I don't want it to be, you know? 00:47:09
I would say off the top of my head, you're looking at. 00:47:14
What did you say assessor was involved? 00:47:18
And the assessors not on this 3/4 not involved they were looking at. 00:47:20
The ones that were moving the soonest. 00:47:25
Because we're being separated from our permanent records. Understood. 00:47:27
So give me just a second. I have it actually pulled out. Clerk's office wasn't involved. Clerk's office has a whole lot of stuff 00:47:30
already digitized. 00:47:34
And they can convert anything that is already digital into their system. In fact, the last three years worth of records in the 00:47:37
auditor's office. 00:47:41
A lot of it is also digitized because my staff is proactive. 00:47:44
And they'll be able to convert our digital records. 00:47:48
So the only ones missed. So we're missing the assessor, clerk, recorder, surveyor, stormwater and Hwy. department in this first 00:47:52
stage? 00:47:55
I have to let this. I have to let this. 00:48:01
Company know basically whether or not the county is going to be pursuing this. 00:48:03
I understand. You know where I'm coming from, right? 00:48:07
I don't want four more *** a half $1,000,000. 00:48:11
We were very upfront with this company that if we went into this, it would be in stages and it would be over years. 00:48:14
But also. 00:48:21
They can't take all of our paper documentation at once. I don't know if you've ever seen my page. 00:48:22
But my document cages. 00:48:27
Overflowing impacts the gills because I have paper documents that can never be destroyed. 00:48:29
Unless they are digitized and signed off on by the state. 00:48:35
Every single payroll voucher. 00:48:38
That currently exists since the inception of this county. 00:48:41
Lives in my storage cage in the basement of the city county building. 00:48:45
And technically I'm not supposed to be separated from my permanent records. 00:48:49
But I'm going to be. 00:48:53
Or the commissioners are going to have to pay somebody to carry all that stuff up to the storage on the 5th floor of that 00:48:55
building. 00:48:58
The clerks office has stuff in Louisville. 00:49:00
Yes. 00:49:03
This would get that stuff out of Louisville and onto. 00:49:04
That's that's not in the underground caverns. 00:49:08
I've been there. 00:49:11
Yeah, the point is. 00:49:12
It's $380,000 for the first for the first wave. 00:49:15
It's that's my office. 00:49:20
And the treasurer's office. 00:49:22
Something we can play pay for out of the Gold Bond. 00:49:24
It is something you can pass. Does it qualify for special purchase? Because there are very few. 00:49:27
I thought it had to be capped. 00:49:35
Capital, It is a capital improvement. 00:49:36
Yeah, it's digital. 00:49:39
OK. Yeah. So. 00:49:41
So. 00:49:43
Basically, I need to know whether or not to tell this lady that we are still considering this and pursuing it, and that the 00:49:45
Council and Commissioners are going to find a way to fund it. 00:49:49
Obviously I'm not gonna sign anything. 00:49:54
I just need. 00:49:56
To know that. 00:49:56
We're not wasting her time or our time talking to her. 00:49:57
So I got a question for you. So you said this. 00:50:00
Amount of money, it's going to take several years. 00:50:03
So aren't they going to come back next year and want more money? 00:50:07
No, we pay upfront. 00:50:10
The soup ain't up front. 00:50:12
That's against uh. 00:50:13
SPLA regulations. 00:50:15
I'm gonna say that that Frank, it's been a very long day. My apologies. 00:50:16
Because it's a signed contract, it can be encumbered into the next year. Once it's created, there you go. 00:50:20
And there's no time when they don't encumbrances. 00:50:26
Nick, you read the specifications on those federal grants. Could this be something that would be eligible for that? 00:50:28
How many miles can I go? 00:50:34
OK. I know Charleston got a huge chunk for removing Quonset huts, but you know, is that, I mean, we're updating things. I mean, is 00:50:37
that not general operations or how they get around that? 00:50:42
Private, individual residents that they're going, that's what I've come out. 00:50:49
What did you ask? What kind of funding? 00:50:54
You know, we're recently got. 00:50:57
Some of that for. 00:51:02
Yeah, again, infrastructure, but. 00:51:04
What are species used for? 00:51:07
I just want to make a comment that for at least the last 10 years I've been telling the county. 00:51:10
If you want to reduce your operational cost, you have got to increase your IT budget. 00:51:15
And this is IT. 00:51:20
So that the public can serve themselves well. I'll add, too, if we don't do something, we're just kicking the can that's going to 00:51:22
grow. 00:51:26
Yeah, this is not going to go away, and it's only gonna get worse. 00:51:31
I have payroll records from the 40s that I can't get rid of. 00:51:34
I'm pretty sure I didn't get a check then. 00:51:38
I don't know. 00:51:42
Is is everyone in favor of her? 00:51:45
Telling them that we're still. 00:51:49
Moving forward. 00:51:50
Yes. 00:51:52
Yeah, yes. 00:51:53
Thank you. 00:51:55
I'll get what I can. 00:52:01
Yes. 00:52:04
Thank you. 00:52:05
All right, EMS update. 00:52:06
Yeah, so. 00:52:09
Tomorrow's going to be the final public hearing. 00:52:11
For the territory and then they move into March. 00:52:13
Which will be the vote for Highlander to. 00:52:17
Join the terror. That's the actual adoption. 00:52:19
Meeting. 00:52:23
Currently working on interlocal agreement between the Commissioners and the territory regarding. 00:52:24
The. 00:52:32
Aspects. So that's going to probably become bit forthcoming here before too long. 00:52:34
Recently had Baker Tilly. 00:52:38
Do an analysis. 00:52:41
Not only for the territory, but we were able to ask. 00:52:43
Two questions out of Baker Tilly 1 is what would a potential fire and EMS lit generate? 00:52:46
Here in Floyd County. 00:52:52
And it was just right around 12.2, just a little less than $12.2 million, which. 00:52:54
The fire and EMS lit under new lit structure is the only lit that has lit share with it. So we have to be. 00:53:00
Kind of divvied up between the different fire departments throughout the county, which was. 00:53:06
One of the main reasons that we needed. 00:53:10
Highlighted. 00:53:13
A highlighter of the territory to come together because. 00:53:13
Distributing it to three departments versus 2 maybe would make it. 00:53:16
Not as near as effective. 00:53:20
So we had them take that till the end or. 00:53:22
Uh, yeah, probably because I think we got a few things success there because I don't, I don't know if there might be a delay on 00:53:27
some of that. 00:53:30
Or not out of the. 00:53:33
Legislature here this. 00:53:35
Session but anyway. 00:53:36
What we were able to do is is kind of get an idea of of what the lid would generate. 00:53:39
Get an idea how it would be distributed? 00:53:44
And then? 00:53:46
Kind of look at what it would look like to take the returns. 00:53:48
From the EMS billing. 00:53:52
And the leftover lid amounts. 00:53:53
And put it back in the territory to offset any kind of property tax impact. So. 00:53:56
As you know, currently Floyd County residents are paying you know, .50 for public safety tax as it stands right now in the. 00:54:01
New list structure, the firing muscle. It has a cap of .40, so even if we were running. 00:54:07
At the cap, you're still saving Floyd County residents .10. 00:54:13
And lit but the lid tax that were there. 00:54:18
That they're paying now is covering. 00:54:21
A lot of different things, that's correct. 00:54:24
That was my question. 00:54:26
So. 00:54:28
That lit tax that we're talking about here goes directly to the fire it does. 00:54:29
And we are going the county is going to get one lit rate. 00:54:34
And that that does not incorporate. Those are two different. They do not. 00:54:39
Go together, OK? 00:54:43
Just just double checking. Yeah, that's not part of the, what was it, 1.2 general? 00:54:45
Yeah, that's yeah. So that, that's a different lit than than would be considered, which was one of the reasons that. 00:54:50
We decided to put this in the territory to begin with. 00:54:55
You know to be able to give both entities that cushion. 00:54:58
For growth if needed be in the future. 00:55:01
But anyway. 00:55:04
I really believe that. 00:55:05
It's very plausible to get this rate. 00:55:07
Under .30, which I think would be a huge win. It's cheaper than what? 00:55:10
They're going to be doing it now, but they're currently doing it now. Both Highlander and. 00:55:14
The Floyd County fire territory, and I think that would be a great thing. 00:55:18
Most likely we're going to be looking. 00:55:22
Once this territory if it is approved in March coming back and. 00:55:24
Seeking council approval to start. 00:55:29
Making some. 00:55:31
Acquisitions for some equipment and even funding. 00:55:32
The person to. 00:55:35
Get this ball rolling so you know once this is approved, things are going to have to move pretty quickly to get this thing stood 00:55:37
up. 00:55:40
For the end of 2026. 00:55:44
When the contracts. 00:55:46
Are over. 00:55:48
As some of you all may have seen as we walked in. 00:55:50
There's a ambulance outside from Pin Care. Our representative is here today. 00:55:53
From Pink Haired. 00:55:58
Wanted to give you guys an opportunity of what these. 00:55:59
These units look like it is the exact same cab. 00:56:01
The box configuration in the rear is just a little bit different than what we went with, but it's it's the same kind of. 00:56:06
Set up you would Most people wouldn't notice the differences between what we, what we have, or what. 00:56:11
It was out there so. 00:56:16
I encourage everybody if you want to take a look at. 00:56:18
What we got coming down the pipeline to go out there and take a look and that ask some questions. Our EMS consultant Jeff Dixon is 00:56:20
here. 00:56:23
Mr. Kidwell from Pin Care is here, so he'll be happy to answer any questions for you, and I am. 00:56:26
Happy to answer any further questions. 00:56:30
The Council or the Commissioners by half. 00:56:33
I I have a question about the e-mail that came out. I think Danny forwarded it. Mm-hmm. 00:56:36
So it's sad that we wouldn't be able to reduce that property tax rate until 2020. 00:56:40
8. 00:56:47
So currently there's lit share as as it stands from that that districts get. 00:56:47
What we're talking about is. 00:56:53
What happens in 2028 when the new lead structure goes in place? Can we use some of the lit? 00:56:56
Leftover money that we have right now to reduce that rate. 00:57:01
Going in instead of. 00:57:05
Going in with a high rate and then bringing it back down. So the current lit structure that they have in place. 00:57:08
The I'm not taking about fire lead, I'm talking about using some of our public safety tax lit. 00:57:14
That we have available for us right now. 00:57:20
That's not a question for me at the island. 00:57:24
And and supplementing. 00:57:27
That fire territory to keep that rate down to a point where. 00:57:29
It's not going way high and then coming back down. 00:57:34
You, you understand what I'm saying. I'm not saying, I'm not saying it's not possible. I think what we need is. 00:57:37
Which is the way the way the structure is going to work in 28. 00:57:44
You know. 00:57:47
We have a. 00:57:49
General Lip. 00:57:50
Right, we can put, we can fit everything under that and not do. 00:57:52
The emergency? No, no, no. That's what I'm just saying. We need to see what. 00:57:56
Those projections come in at. 00:58:01
Before we start making decisions on. 00:58:04
If we want to. 00:58:06
Drop, reduce funding now. 00:58:09
I'm saying let's take $3,000,000 out of the. 00:58:12
Public safety lit. 00:58:18
Currently, but we have. 00:58:19
At the end of the year, this. 00:58:22
Past year we have $4.2 million in there. We're going to get 6.6 additional $1,000,000. 00:58:24
We're going to have. 00:58:30
$10.8 million. 00:58:31
In that public safety. 00:58:33
We have budget of 5 million. 00:58:35
So we're having extra 5.8 million. 00:58:37
Let's take 3 million of that. 00:58:40
For 2027. 00:58:42
And get that right down. 00:58:43
So that we keep that rate in kind of consistent going into 2028, I think what's important. 00:58:46
Yeah, so we need some help. 00:58:52
We need some help figuring all that out. 00:58:54
But I think if we ask Baker Tilly, we can maybe do that. 00:58:56
And make this really look like. 00:59:00
A win for everybody in the county right now. 00:59:03
Greenville and Georgetown are going to be really. 00:59:08
Umm taxed heavily. 00:59:11
Going into this territory. 00:59:15
And and and. 00:59:17
And they and you got to remember that. 00:59:18
Greenville was was a Volunteer Fire Department. 00:59:22
Five years ago. 00:59:26
And was paying no taxes. So if we have the if, if we have the bandwidth. 00:59:27
In the money that we have a bit on hand. 00:59:33
To do this, I think we should at least. 00:59:36
Have Baker Tilly do an analysis for us to see if we can. 00:59:38
Do that. 00:59:42
So I think it's important to recognize is that when Baker Tilly does come in and do an analysis, they base their analysis on the 00:59:42
worst case scenario. 00:59:46
One of those worst case scenarios is that no lid exists anymore. Well, currently we do have a current lid structure. Currently 00:59:50
they are receiving lit shares. 00:59:54
So even though that's their approved rate, that would be their approved rate without lit, so. 00:59:58
What they're done is they get, they're given that rate. 01:00:02
And they've gone back and now that they know they're still getting this lit share that will be readjusted because. 01:00:05
As it stands right now, if you look at the budget orders for. 01:00:10
This year, last year, I believe they're receiving right about $1.2 million. 01:00:13
Each and lit, so that already goes back to reduce that rate. So there already is that. 01:00:18
Happening now that that rate that you see is like I said in the analysis, the is the worst case scenario that lit doesn't exist, 01:00:23
but it does exist. 01:00:27
As it stands right now and they are receiving it so. 01:00:31
That's not what. 01:00:33
The real rate, well, I think people want to know out in the county. 01:00:34
What I'm hearing is what is my? 01:00:38
Property tax rate. 01:00:42
Going to be. 01:00:43
And how much is it going to increase? 01:00:45
With this fire territory. 01:00:47
And they've heard. 01:00:49
Like big numbers? 01:00:50
And I think if we can, if we have the possibility, and I believe we do. 01:00:52
I'm really sincerely I've I've done some numbers, I've spent two hours looking at numbers this afternoon. 01:00:58
I really think we have the possibility. 01:01:04
To keep those under the three, just like you said, I I think that would be. 01:01:07
Awesome. And I'd like not to wait until 2028 to make that happen. I'd like to start that in 2027 and I know the public are the if 01:01:13
our territory has has went on record and said that. 01:01:18
They would intend to match dollar for dollar every, you know, lit dollar. They have to reduce their budgets. What can we have? 01:01:25
Baker Tilly take a look at this so that we can see if we can go in 2027. 01:01:30
With and how much it would cost us. 01:01:37
How much we would have to? 01:01:39
Control March. 01:01:41
Agenda for Basic contract for. 01:01:43
Forecasting. 01:01:47
So we can we can add that. 01:01:49
To what we want them to do, OK. 01:01:51
OK. 01:01:54
And somebody tell me what happens to the money? 01:01:55
Did the fire department already has? 01:01:58
When they become part of the territory. 01:02:02
Highlander. Let's say they got. 01:02:05
I don't know, $0.75. I don't. I don't know whatever it is. 01:02:08
What happens to that money? 01:02:11
Does that go into the territory or does that? 01:02:13
Stay with Highlander fire districts I believe. I believe cash on hand gets moved into the territory but any debt service stays 01:02:16
with. 01:02:21
With the the district. 01:02:26
Yeah. Well, that's way up there, yes. 01:02:28
But they have a cap 2 cap. 01:02:33
To cover that debt service. 01:02:36
So if that if that that service stays that you can. 01:02:39
My hope would be that that most of these and just kind of. 01:02:43
Like. 01:02:47
You already cashed it, did they? They used some of their cash on hand to pay down their debt moving into the territory so that 01:02:48
way. 01:02:50
They were moving to this. 01:02:53
Almost that freeze I would hope. 01:02:55
That both all entities would. 01:02:56
I'm going to move that to do that so. 01:02:58
Yeah, I don't know what their books. 01:03:00
Have any other discussion on that or any other information? 01:03:02
Otherwise, I'll remind you that the prototype. 01:03:06
Ambulances. 01:03:10
The demo we have. I like your word better though. Prototype. 01:03:11
Is available for tour. 01:03:17
Want to ask one question. 01:03:18
Is that on a Ford chassis? 01:03:20
All right, we're ahead of the game then. 01:03:23
I don't see anyone from. 01:03:29
The general public here tonight, does anyone? 01:03:33
Just make any further comment. 01:03:36
From the gallery or the board? I don't see anyone up here so. 01:03:38
All right, so moved. 01:03:45
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Event transcript
Monday, I'm gonna start the day out here. We'll call to order this joint meeting of Floyd Kennedy, Commissioners and County 00:00:00
Council. If you have cell phone, please put the silent. 00:00:04
And. 00:00:09
We have a little bit of commissioners business we can begin with here in a minute, but if you'll join me for the Pledge of 00:00:11
Allegiance. 00:00:14
I pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:00:18
Of the United States of America. 00:00:21
To the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 00:00:23
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:27
I'll begin by seeking approval of the 11626 joint meeting minutes. 00:00:35
So moved second. 00:00:39
OK, all in favor, aye? 00:00:42
I abstain. 00:00:45
I wasn't here for the meeting. 00:00:47
I think we still have a quorum from both bodies. 00:00:50
Approve that. 00:00:52
I know we'll get a reminder afterwards, but there is a prototype of one of the ambulances. 00:00:53
Under discussion out in the parking lot. 00:01:01
And uh. 00:01:03
No rides and free tours and it's a. 00:01:04
Pretty nice looking. 00:01:07
Unit and substantial so. 00:01:09
Please feel free to go look at that after the meeting. 00:01:12
From the Commissioners standpoint, we have. 00:01:16
Really only one solo item on the agenda, but I want to add another one. 00:01:20
Look to add by unanimous consent. 00:01:25
Commissioner, item. 00:01:28
Number of. 00:01:29
We'll call it one. 00:01:30
1A regarding a local match commitment for the Edwardsville Community Center. 00:01:32
So moved. 00:01:39
All in favor, aye. I'd like to go ahead and begin with that discussion then. 00:01:41
So as you all may be aware. 00:01:49
Efforts for school project was a ready 2.0 funded project. 00:01:52
We received. 00:01:57
$2,050,000 in funding for that project and. 00:01:58
Uh, locally we commit. 00:02:03
Ended a match of a 5050 so 2.05 million. 00:02:04
For that. 00:02:09
Recent estimates for the construction on that project came in high. 00:02:12
Jim has to be demoed out. We had hoped to renovate that outright. 00:02:18
In you know the original estimates are several years old. 00:02:23
Buildings deteriorate in some SO. 00:02:28
We have new estimates that require. 00:02:32
An additional $500,000 to. 00:02:35
Do the construction renovation of that building. 00:02:39
That is, without the replacement of the gym, we do have an alternative bid or alternative alternative estimate. 00:02:44
For 900 thousand additional dollars. 00:02:51
916,000. 00:02:54
To replace the gin. 00:02:56
Ready 2 point. 00:02:59
Recently announced that they had some additional funding become available for actually $5 million. 00:03:01
They have an application period that we are currently in. 00:03:07
For that funding and we have requested. 00:03:11
The $916,000 to make up that difference. 00:03:14
In the meantime, they've requested that we provide updated application materials. 00:03:19
Materials for the project as it is today. 00:03:24
So in in that application they are requesting a local match commitment letter. 00:03:28
From the county for the amount as though we do not receive any additional funding. So that's what I'm here to request. 00:03:35
Did you get a copy? 00:03:43
So go one more time. So does this committing a new. 00:03:53
Tranche of money regardless of whether we get the match or not. 00:03:59
Yes, they are requesting we we commit. 00:04:02
To complete the project regardless of whether we get additional without. 00:04:05
The. 00:04:10
Jim, this is yeah, I, I, I submitted that if we were to commit that it would be. 00:04:11
The minimal amount required to commit. 00:04:18
To to make that a complete project we've already expended. 00:04:21
Nearly 1.8 million. 00:04:26
Dollars on the project the. 00:04:28
Highway. 00:04:30
See our State Route 62 and Carolyn Ave. intersection. 00:04:31
Was part of that project or part of the local match for that project? 00:04:35
As well as some site work that we've done, some regional drainage back there. 00:04:39
So we've already expended almost enough to. 00:04:44
Obtain the 5050. 00:04:47
Match for the 2.05 million. 00:04:49
They did advise me that if we did not complete. 00:04:53
This that, we could lose that. 00:04:55
Uh, that finding right And uh, this commitment, this lends me committed for completion. 00:04:58
I mean the additional. 00:05:05
Money is primarily going to go to the. 00:05:07
Demolition of the gym. 00:05:10
Demolition and renovation of the the building itself and we think the demolition. 00:05:12
We're hoping that we. 00:05:18
I know we're hoping to find a partner who will kind of step in for that, but. 00:05:20
Of that additional 500, the demolition accounts for how much of the extra 4050 thousand? 00:05:23
Where would the money come from? 00:05:32
Where would if we do not get the award? 00:05:36
If we do not get the additional ready to funding. 00:05:40
What is Are we gonna get it reimbursed if we? 00:05:43
No, it's not reimbursable though. 00:05:46
They'll provide it up front. 00:05:47
If we get the long puppy. 00:05:50
So I'm not. 00:05:51
OK. 00:05:53
So if we don't, there are some other options, you know. 00:05:55
The community projects one that the Congress. 00:05:59
Has that could be an option? 00:06:03
You know, we have the GO bond funds that did include facilities as legacy fund. 00:06:06
Like you see there, yeah. So there are some other options ideally. 00:06:12
You know we will. 00:06:16
Obtain the additional ready funding. 00:06:17
I think our project is. 00:06:20
#1 rated project in of of the 2.0. 00:06:22
Funding. 00:06:26
You know it checked all their boxes, so. 00:06:26
Yeah. Well, I don't like the uncertainty of it, but that's where we are and. 00:06:29
I I prefer the uncertainty of. 00:06:33
Having to find the funds rather than losing them all. So that's where I am on it. So I guess my question would be, we signed the 00:06:35
letter. 00:06:39
If they don't give us the money. 00:06:43
Are we obligated to spend the money? 00:06:45
Otherwise, or can we say, Oh well, we didn't get the money, we scrapped the project. 00:06:48
It it it's uh. 00:06:54
I don't know how bad. 00:06:56
Indian work match commitment letter is I mean. 00:06:58
We've already committed. We've submitted one of these for 2.05. 00:07:00
And. 00:07:05
You know, maybe we if we don't get the funding, we look at the scope of the project and change that. 00:07:08
We can always tell the County Council didn't approve. 00:07:13
Yeah, I was wondering when the County Council was going to get in on the money part of this. I just threw you in. 00:07:17
I will say the funds already expended were from ARP funds and the Edwardsville and TIF bond. 00:07:25
Yeah. 00:07:33
OK, well, I'll make a motion that we sign the letter and. 00:07:35
Go forward with it. 00:07:40
All right, again, this is the commissioners agenda. Only have a motion. I got a second. 00:07:41
All in favor, aye aye. 00:07:47
Alright, there's your letter. Item number 1B, the Redevelopment Commission, the Caribbean, Mike Fulkerson's funding of Indiana 00:07:53
Small Business Development Center. 00:07:57
Mr. Fulkerson came to the meeting early. He gave everybody. 00:08:02
Copies that you should have in front of you because. 00:08:07
Concentrate his. 00:08:11
Presentation down to 2 pages, which is. 00:08:13
Commendable. 00:08:16
Almost as good as one page. That's our 2 pages. Fantastic. The distilling. 00:08:17
Yes, so. 00:08:22
If you want to. 00:08:24
Walk us through the 2 pages or for anybody who's already read it can hold questions for Mike for. 00:08:25
A few minutes from now. 00:08:31
All right. And I'll jump in and give you all a little background information on who we are as an organization. Then we'll jump 00:08:32
into those two slides. 00:08:36
But I'm Mike Fulkerson on the regional director for the Southeast region of the SBDC. 00:08:39
We do touch all 92 counties within the state of Indiana. 00:08:44
Our centers are broken into 10 different regions. Again, we are the southeast region. 00:08:48
Which is 14 counties? Which Ford County is one of those counties? 00:08:52
In our office we do employ 7 people including myself. 00:08:56
So we've got myself as the Rd. We have 4 business advisors. 00:09:01
One ecosystem navigator than an office administrator. 00:09:04
Day in and day out, those individuals are working towards. 00:09:08
Helping entrepreneurs start grow. 00:09:12
And sustained successful businesses. 00:09:15
Our mission at the SBDC is to provide high quality. 00:09:18
No cost confidential business advising, training and resources. 00:09:21
To existing and prospective small business owners. 00:09:25
We do work with businesses at every stage. 00:09:29
Of development from startup and ideation. 00:09:33
Through growth initiatives. 00:09:36
And now we're seeing a lot of clients come to us for succession planning. 00:09:38
They're getting close to retirement. They would have put a plan together. 00:09:41
That continues to build value in that company so they can exit it. 00:09:44
Either through a sale or through a transition to a family member. 00:09:47
But. 00:09:52
I would say you know. 00:09:53
We provide a lot of services, a lot of resources, a lot of programs. 00:09:54
The one we're most known for is definitely the the one-on-one confidential advising. 00:09:58
With our clients, I I did a quick tally of the topics that we hit upon the most with our clients. 00:10:04
When we're advising that, the six topics to come up the most are business, startup, and formalization. 00:10:11
Financial analysis and cash flow management. 00:10:16
Access to capital. 00:10:19
And lender preparation. 00:10:20
Marketing and customer acquisition strategies. 00:10:22
Operational efficiency and growth planning. 00:10:25
And workforce planning and retention. 00:10:28
In some of the outcomes that we see from these advising sessions. 00:10:31
Once they take what we have talked about back to work. 00:10:35
We see increased numbers of sustainable small businesses. 00:10:38
Higher business revenues and capitalization levels. 00:10:42
Job creation and retention for those within Floyd County. 00:10:45
Reduce small business failure rates and long-term growth. 00:10:49
Of the local tax base. 00:10:52
Some other programs that we have available not just to our clients, but to the community. 00:10:55
As a whole, 1 is the Indiana Technical Assistance Program. 00:11:01
Another is the Export Indiana Accelerator program, but there is a small business. 00:11:05
That wants to look into selling their products in Canada or Mexico or over the ocean. 00:11:10
We have programs that will help them formulate. 00:11:14
In exporting business plan. 00:11:19
Put them in touch with consulates. 00:11:21
Educate them on tariffs and legalities. 00:11:23
If you all could now. 00:11:27
That first slide, you're going to see some metrics on it. 00:11:30
On the left hand side, those are our calendar year metrics. This is what we saw throughout the year 2025. 00:11:33
Clients serve throughout our region were 638. 00:11:40
New businesses started throughout our region were 42. 00:11:44
Jobs supported and these are jobs saved or jobs added. 00:11:47
Due to a business owner working directly with the SBDC. 00:11:51
We saw 2311. 00:11:55
Job supported. 00:11:58
Capital transactions throughout the region we saw 92 and the dollar value of those transactions was 7.4 million. 00:12:00
What a capital transaction is. 00:12:07
That that's growth capital. 00:12:09
So if a business has some kind of an initiative going on, maybe they need a bigger place, maybe they need new equipment. 00:12:11
They can come to us, we will help them prepare a loan packet. 00:12:17
Introduce them to the banks, kind of shepherd them through that process. 00:12:21
So that 7.4 million is money that came through the banks last year to these small businesses for those growth initiatives. 00:12:24
On the right hand side you'll see Floyd County. So I broke out everything we've seen in 2025 and Floyd County. 00:12:32
A client served 118. 00:12:38
And that's 18% of our total region clients out of 14 counties. 00:12:40
New businesses started in Floyd County. We saw six. That's 14%. 00:12:45
Of our regional total. 00:12:49
Capital transactions right here in Floyd County, we saw 20. 00:12:51
That's 22%. 00:12:55
In that growth, capital total $2.9 million in 2025. 00:12:57
For small businesses here in Floyd County. 00:13:02
Down below I put some topics that a lot of people. 00:13:06
Don't think about when you hear the word small business, but 99.4%. 00:13:09
Of businesses in Indiana or small businesses. 00:13:13
As long as they are not in what we call a vice industry. 00:13:17
We will work with them. We work with manufacturers, we work with mom and pop coffee shops. 00:13:21
And everybody in between. 00:13:25
And then that last bullet point on that slide, you know, at the end of the day. 00:13:28
Our main goal really is to reduce small business failure. 00:13:32
It says you all know. 00:13:35
Running a business is complex on a good day. 00:13:37
You take all the global terminology going on right now, everything. 00:13:40
Is is definitely putting pressure on the small business owner. 00:13:44
If you all go to that next slide. 00:13:49
You've heard me say a few times that all of our services are free and confidential. 00:13:53
They're free because we are funded by grants. 00:13:58
On the federal side as well as on the state side, Federal comes from SBA. 00:14:01
State comes from IE DC. 00:14:05
Our federal grant does have to be matched dollar for dollar. 00:14:07
Through Community cash match. 00:14:10
On the left hand side, you'll see a listing of organizations throughout our regional footprint. 00:14:13
Who have contributed? 00:14:18
To that 2026 cash match. 00:14:19
Those organizations have contributed a total so far of 98,980. 00:14:22
In order to maximize every dollar we get through the SBA. 00:14:28
This year we need to raise 129,675. 00:14:32
That leaves us with a current deficit of $30,000. 00:14:37
695. 00:14:40
Whenever I speak to organizations, to counties, to municipalities. 00:14:43
I definitely look at where the activity is throughout our 14 county footprint. 00:14:48
Floyd County and Clark County are always kind of right neck and neck. 00:14:53
Last year we served just a few more clients in Floyd County. 00:14:58
But county wide, I'm sorry Jeffersonville saw a few more clients than. 00:15:02
New Albany and Floyd camp. 00:15:06
But both counties knock it out of the park. 00:15:08
So we try to look at where we're focusing our services. 00:15:11
And provide our cash match ask based on where we are seeing the bulk of that activity. 00:15:14
Based on that I am asking. 00:15:20
Respectfully for $15,000 in cash match. 00:15:22
Towards our SBA grant. 00:15:27
I know I covered a lot there. There's probably a lot of questions you still have, so let me open the floor to answer any questions 00:15:30
you want. 00:15:33
No, I don't think the question we had a lengthier presentation that. 00:15:45
Rebel Commission, which is one reason I don't have any questions at present and I can't recall the ones that you spoke of. Nikki, 00:15:50
anything to add with Verge to? 00:15:54
How we got here from redevelopment. 00:16:00
No, I will just say that redevelopment obviously poured this, so I'm favorably recommended. 00:16:03
There was discussion at that. 00:16:10
Meeting that, some potential funding sources might be worried about both. 00:16:11
Funds, but so I I. 00:16:15
Question. 00:16:18
So you're already doing this in our community. In fact, do you put on that small bit or help? 00:16:20
With the small business where they. 00:16:26
Presented out at IUS and then they award. 00:16:29
Yes, Should you help with that? 00:16:32
That is correct. I was the chair of that organization. 00:16:34
That actually grew out of me getting stakeholders together to see how we can build the ecosystem in Floyd County as well as Clark, 00:16:38
and all of that grew out of that conversation. 00:16:42
Yeah. 00:16:47
It's it's a, it's a good. 00:16:48
Program. 00:16:50
That's the next big thing, pitch competition. 00:16:51
Yes, yes, yes. 00:16:53
The Big Pit. 00:16:54
You're right. I I. 00:16:55
I personally think this needs to be a grant out of the Legacy Foundation again I. 00:16:59
I I think that's what that. 00:17:06
Was four and. 00:17:07
I think this is a good program. We should keep it going in our community. 00:17:10
I think it should come up, come from there. 00:17:14
I'll make a motion that we. 00:17:17
Send this over to the Legacy Foundation grant process. 00:17:21
Well the only issue is they would have to file for a grant through that. 00:17:25
And then pushes it out probably till the end of the year. 00:17:28
Till what is September is when do we? When do we? 00:17:31
Yeah, it is. 00:17:36
June Yeah, that is the IC value in it. 00:17:41
$15,000 I mean, I do too. I mean, I do see value, it's just a matter of where you take it from. 00:17:45
And so I don't know what you have in riverboat at the moment. Riverboat. 00:17:50
I don't know what you have in it. 00:17:55
More than 15,000. 00:17:57
OK. Are you looking? 00:18:01
Just totally not financial questions. What? How do you find a small business under 20, under 25, under 50? 00:18:04
Well, it depends on the industry. There are some sub sectors of manufacturing where we can work with the company if they have 500 00:18:11
employees. 00:18:16
But we, we go about that federal SBA breakdown, well, just I just saw 99.4% our small business, there should be a number 00:18:20
associated with that. 00:18:25
In my view, yeah. Let me see if I can get that for you. I can send it to you. I don't know the number offhand, but it is 99.4%. 00:18:31
That is a vetted number. 00:18:34
How do you divvy up the matches? I see where these other organizations have matched between 2020 thousand, so how do you divvy up 00:18:39
how you asked? 00:18:43
Yep, there are some extremely rural communities where we work with clients. 00:18:48
A lot of those the cash match funding has come from Main St. organizations. 00:18:54
Those are going to be closer to the 2003 thousand. 00:19:00
Dollar level and the reason they do contribute some of these we don't even have to ask for and come and ask for just because they 00:19:03
see the value. 00:19:06
That we provide the small business community. 00:19:10
And they know that those dollars that the return on investment is incredibly strong. 00:19:12
It looks to me like we got $130,000 in there. 00:19:21
Which is a lot. 00:19:24
Is that right now? 00:19:26
Learning that, have it cleared as of today. So it's actually closer to 120,000 that's left in there, OK. 00:19:29
I move, we take. 00:19:38
15,000 out of riverboat. 00:19:39
You can make a consensus. 00:19:41
OK, it's not been everything all right, but it won't be available for marches meeting either. It will have to be at either Marches 00:19:43
joint meeting or April because the advertisement meeting. 00:19:48
Announced this morning. 00:19:53
Do you OK? 00:20:00
For the March joint meeting. 00:20:03
March regular meeting. 00:20:04
OK, if it was part of the advertisement she filed this morning, we're good to go. So census it's. 00:20:08
And your consensus? Yeah, already advertised. 00:20:14
Or will be advertised for. 00:20:16
March County Council meeting out of riverboat. 00:20:18
I'm seeing yeses down there, all good. 00:20:23
OK, so we'll take an official vote at our March meeting. 00:20:26
OK. 00:20:30
15,000 Riverboat. 00:20:31
OK. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 00:20:34
All right, Next up, Michelle Portwood. 00:20:36
Discuss. Easy hire. 00:20:43
Right, so. 00:20:47
For those of you who've not heard of I no longer have a free option. 00:20:50
Of posting positions for the county. 00:20:55
Indeed, change their rules as of January 1st of this year. 00:20:58
And I can only post 3 jobs per month. 00:21:03
And they will only stay posted for 30 days. 00:21:06
After that they automatically close. 00:21:09
So last year I posted 42 jobs. 00:21:13
On indeed, if we continue with indeed. 00:21:17
It would be at bare minimum. 00:21:21
$100 per job. 00:21:24
So if you subtract the. 00:21:26
42 jobs that I've posted and you know. 00:21:30
Let's just say I have. 00:21:33
I anyway. 00:21:36
It'll be cheaper to use Easy Hire, which is a product of Lao. 00:21:37
Which were already using for financial payroll. 00:21:42
And HR work. 00:21:46
So. 00:21:48
$8950 this year. 00:21:50
But next year it the majority that money. 00:21:53
Is the implementation fee. 00:21:56
Next year it'll be about 3500. 00:21:59
So I'm seeking approval. 00:22:02
To sign the quote. 00:22:05
For to get started with the easy hire, there's and a consensus from council to to do an additional appropriation at the March 00:22:08
meeting. 00:22:12
All right, so just so everyone knows that I. 00:22:17
I should have posted 12 jobs. 00:22:21
This year. 00:22:25
I've had. 00:22:26
Three and Plan Commission I if the Council approves. 00:22:27
Community corrections new job next month. That'll be 3 for Community Corrections and there's always 2 for Open Door Youth 00:22:32
Services. 00:22:36
So. 00:22:41
Sorry. 00:22:43
That's not fun, but anyway that that's. 00:22:44
Which is a lot more than where where do they get posted to? So I know people go to indeed and. 00:22:47
Right. So that was my exact question. Yeah, that was my question too. 00:22:54
So once I post them on easy hire it gets sent out to 20 other free. 00:23:00
Uh, posting sites. 00:23:07
So it's kind of an organic process, so. 00:23:09
All of the posting sites want to be known as the best, so that means. 00:23:13
Indeed or Zip recruiter. So and to be known that way, you've got to say I have all the jobs. 00:23:18
So indeed and other posting sites will go to all these free sites. 00:23:26
And they'll scoop them up and they'll post those jobs. 00:23:31
For. 00:23:35
You some more people see you. 00:23:37
So. 00:23:39
Just so I understand. 00:23:40
To follow up on her question, so if I'm a student at IUS. 00:23:42
And I'm looking for a work. 00:23:46
I never heard of easy hire. 00:23:49
No, I'm gonna look at Indeed, CareerBuilder, Zip Recruiter. 00:23:50
Those three off the top of my head. 00:23:55
Right. Yeah, but how? How does the person get to easy hire or they don't? 00:23:57
They don't. 00:24:03
8 Easy hire is just the applicant tracking system. 00:24:04
So that's where they get posted. 00:24:09
And from that system they get pushed out to. 00:24:11
20 different free postings. 00:24:15
MMM. 00:24:18
The quiz is that those main places? 00:24:19
Gary Date. 00:24:23
Source from those free sites. 00:24:25
They use them as sources so CareerBuilder takes them from easy hire. 00:24:27
It's not from easy hire but from the 23 sites because these hire posts than the 2. 00:24:32
Is the mechanism that pushes them out. 00:24:38
It's almost like a networking system for for looking for new hires, right? 00:24:40
So you put it you can see higher easy. Higher pushes it out to 23 sites, the main. 00:24:44
Career building sites. 00:24:49
Source from those places. 00:24:51
Because not everybody is going to pay to post more than three jobs that are going to afford to do that, and they know that. 00:24:53
They're not stupid. 00:24:56
So they're going to go out there because more jobs they have available, the more people are going to look. 00:25:00
So you've seen this work. 00:25:05
Yes, Lao has had this in. 00:25:07
Place for a long time and a lot of the other counties use it. 00:25:09
Yes, and I've heard from other HR people in other counties. 00:25:12
Let's say yes, it works well. 00:25:16
OK. What did you budget for recruiting this year? 00:25:19
0. 00:25:24
Yes, I found out about the Indeed change on January 5th. 00:25:27
After I posted three jobs. 00:25:32
And it was like, OK. 00:25:35
I'm done for the month. 00:25:37
And they always stay up in 30 days, right? And they only stay active for 30 days. 00:25:41
Well, it sounds to me like we don't. 00:25:47
Have another option here? 00:25:49
I would say financially is the best option, otherwise we're going to have to create a budget for AD. 00:25:51
Yeah, I mean what I've been doing, Well, it sounds like you create a budget anyhow. 00:25:56
To your point. 00:26:01
Thanks, Frank. 00:26:03
So what I've been doing in the interim is posting the jobs under employment on the county's website. 00:26:05
So what that does is as. 00:26:12
People happen to go to the county's website. 00:26:14
Happens to see the jobs that are posted. 00:26:18
They'll e-mail me and say I'm interested in XYZ job. 00:26:20
I poured it on to the hiring manager. 00:26:25
So it's. 00:26:28
How much is the ongoing uh? 00:26:31
What? What would it would it be? 00:26:35
Some kind of fee to keep this going once it's implemented? Yeah, that's the 35135 hundred. OK, I'm sorry to hear that. 00:26:37
So are we. We're too late for. 00:26:46
March, there are no additional appropriations, but we have this filed for March. 00:26:48
For no additional appropriations for this meeting, as I've sent out in that e-mail, so we can take this up in the margin Council 00:26:53
consensus today to allow the commissioners to make a decision concerning the quote that she received. 00:26:58
And then you can take it up as a vote for an appropriation in March. 00:27:03
So we can't go around either. 00:27:08
A weekend, but so since there was no no budget line for this. 00:27:10
Well, Bonita. 00:27:16
It happens at the time of the appropriation. 00:27:18
Magically appears to be laugh. 00:27:21
Consensus to take this up at our March meeting. Everybody good with that and we'll have a. 00:27:23
Funding source at that point. 00:27:29
Alright, thank you. And then I'll look for a motion to approve the quote. 00:27:32
As presented, so moved. 00:27:36
2nd. 00:27:38
All in favor, aye? 00:27:40
All right. Thank you. You may want to stay there though, because I want to ask. 00:27:42
Christy and Nick and Stan to come up and join us for Item 3, Which? 00:27:45
I think anybody that's been Privy to some of these. 00:27:50
Discussions on solid waste. 00:27:52
We may or may not need your input on this. 00:27:54
But. 00:27:58
As of midnight on the 28th. 00:27:59
The solid waste district. 00:28:02
Will be dissolved and the solid waste. 00:28:04
Department of Floyd County will be resurrected. 00:28:08
And at the beginning of. 00:28:10
The year I think you had budgeted $400,000 towards recycling. 00:28:13
And so. 00:28:17
We're looking for an ongoing way to fund this as. 00:28:19
Traditionally as a department has been funded with regards to the council picking up. 00:28:22
The funding for the payroll aspect of that. 00:28:27
The budget that we put together for solid waste for. 00:28:32
The year. 00:28:37
That we presented to them was and I should have had you to come up there too. Sorry about that. Was Is that 300,000? 00:28:38
At this point right now, correct? 00:28:44
We told them. 00:28:47
250 for operations and 50,000 for the household hazardous waste contract that. 00:28:48
We should hopefully soon be executing. 00:28:55
From the. 00:29:00
Sole entry that we got back from the RFP so. 00:29:00
Right. 00:29:06
So yeah, I should have had Diana come up to the beginning on this. So. 00:29:08
So the direction that. 00:29:13
After some conversations with the commissioners and stand and Miss Fox and Michelle. 00:29:16
Just as a recap. 00:29:21
Obviously. 00:29:22
Recycling isn't going away. 00:29:23
We're keeping it, which is great. 00:29:25
But as it's being absorbed by the county and kind of back under the auditor's umbrella as it was formerly. 00:29:27
Some adjustments had to be made the Commission. 00:29:34
Very proactively created. 00:29:37
A protected home rule fund. Fund #4013. 00:29:40
That will be primarily operational costs, so no salaries because there's no guarantee to. 00:29:44
Keep enough monies in that fund for salaries and moving people around. 00:29:50
Mid year or quarterly is. 00:29:54
Quite frankly, a pain. 00:29:56
They did budget $400,000 in the edit fund for recycling. 00:29:59
This year, that's still there. 00:30:04
So the only place we're looking, the only thing really that they need at this point is a home for salaries. 00:30:07
We did advertise for the March meeting to give the Council. 00:30:13
Some wiggle room $150,000 in the general fund. 00:30:17
Because. 00:30:21
The salaries for solid waste used to be housed. 00:30:22
In the general fund. 00:30:25
They were Department 0506. 00:30:28
Fact that I know that still after having done payroll for them since 2020 is. 00:30:30
Really just sad. 00:30:35
That I know the department. Never off the top of my head. 00:30:36
So the categories would be the director, the administrative assistant and then other employees which would be the part time 00:30:42
employees that work. I think at present they have 11 part time employees. 00:30:47
They have 9 in total. 9 in total. OK, so 7. 00:30:53
Cortana Play. 00:30:58
Because the administrative assistant, I forget that she's part time. 00:30:59
So you would have a director line. 00:31:04
An administrative assistant line and then. 00:31:06
Align for the other employees. 00:31:08
Obviously we're coming in in March, so it wouldn't be the full amount required for their salaries. We've at this point we've 00:31:12
advertised. 00:31:16
$40,000 for the Director role. 00:31:20
25,000 for the administrative assistant and then 85,000 for the other assist. 00:31:23
The other employees, those part time workers. 00:31:28
This can be transferred as needed in between each other if for some reason. 00:31:30
My mouth was way off. 00:31:35
But they're looking for a home. 00:31:38
So Michelle, I believe, has job descriptions and an updated salary ordinance. 00:31:40
For those positions. 00:31:46
And Stanley worked very well with me on making sure that we had an advertised budget for 4013 which will house. 00:31:48
All of the finances that come from solid waste any. 00:31:54
Any financial gain from offloading any equipment or anything like that and any donations? So it is a non reverting fund specific 00:32:01
to solid waste so no one else can touch it and the only thing it goes towards is solid waste operations and improvement. 00:32:06
And then of course. 00:32:13
I believe that the commissioners intend to supplement using edit as needed when it comes to operational costs, but what we're 00:32:15
looking for is a consensus from the council as far as where to set these people up in payroll. 00:32:20
150,000 in the general fund. 00:32:26
It is doable. 00:32:29
Or. 00:32:30
Whatever you all decide, but again, remember. 00:32:32
Additional advertisements, So any additional appropriations? 00:32:34
Cannot be done for the March meeting after today, they're already done. 00:32:38
We did this as a buffer so you had a discussion available and we could make a vote. 00:32:42
In March and we can go ahead and get these people set up in payroll. 00:32:47
For these salaries that we're talking about included in the 400,000 that was they were. 00:32:49
What's happening to the 400,000? 00:32:56
That would be a question for. Again, it was an edit fund, so it will be reabsorbed in the fund, possibly reallocated to. 00:32:59
Other projects where it's needed. 00:33:08
Since edit is specific to economic development, we do have a lot of that going on in the county. That would be a question more for 00:33:10
the CFO. 00:33:14
For the auditor. 00:33:18
Can we transfer out of the edit fund? You need to though. 00:33:22
Edit Funds monies cannot leave edit. 00:33:25
It is the really part of the legislation for economic development. 00:33:28
And to that point though, my question would be it might require a legal opinion. 00:33:32
But any miscellaneous revenues generated that are deposited into the edit fund, can they be reallocated over to? 00:33:37
Sustain. 00:33:45
The funds can be moved around there. 00:33:48
No, not the edit funds themselves. Miscellaneous revenues generated better. 00:33:51
OK. That would put into the edit fund not not generated from the revenue not. 00:33:57
I generate from the state state specifically for either in certified chairs or expenditure fund. 00:34:04
And can we? And there have been some. 00:34:09
Yes. Can we get a ruling on that? I don't care. I mean, I think the hope was that the council would pick up the salaries from the 00:34:11
general fund. 00:34:15
And the Commissioners pay the operational costs out of. 00:34:20
4013, that has been 4013, correct? Yeah. Thank you in edit. 00:34:24
How much are they paying? How much are the commissioners paying? The difference would be 300 and. 00:34:29
It's and so it's. 00:34:33
It's right at. 00:34:35
So you've got 150,000, right? Yeah, 150 in general, I think a little bit higher. It is. It's a higher estimate. 00:34:36
And and then 150 currently budgeted for operational costs, but obviously if the operational costs go above that 150. 00:34:43
Then edit will have to supplement it. 00:34:50
As opposed to none of the operational costs will be in the general. 00:34:52
So just salary. 00:34:56
And does that include the household hazardous waste? 00:34:58
That that would come out of. 00:35:02
And for the 4013 and then solid waste currently has how much approximately in their? 00:35:04
Existing accounts, they have a current money market account which I think it's about 160, sixty, 5000. 00:35:09
Then they have a checking account with about 18 to 20,000. 00:35:16
Right. And where is that going that's we'll go into the 4013 correctness, right? 00:35:20
The 150, there's one full time employee. 00:35:26
So is the 150 and all in number? Does that include benefits and? 00:35:30
Yeah, it's an all in number. That's an all in for the rest of this year. And actually it's an overestimate for the rest of this 00:35:34
year. 00:35:36
I I mean we budgeted 400,000. 00:35:40
I would like to move at least part of that. 00:35:42
Out of the edit find. 00:35:46
And into. 00:35:49
And then into that. 00:35:51
Whatever is agreed to as fully, fully budgeted fully. 00:35:54
For the. 00:35:59
Solid waste for the recycling for the year. 00:36:02
In to the 4013 fully budgeted in that. 00:36:06
You don't, I mean you don't have to move it if if they budgeted. 00:36:11
I'm going to speak to this far more, but if they budget 400 that they only spend 200 out of there, that's OK, but they don't want 00:36:14
to pay out of the. 00:36:18
Of the edit fund anymore they want to pay out of 4013. 00:36:23
The the the salaries. 00:36:27
I want the whole recycling to be fresh. 00:36:29
Fully funded in the 4013. 00:36:32
That's what I would like to see. 00:36:37
I don't know why we would have it in two or three different places. 00:36:40
There's actually a lot of departments that pay out of like. 00:36:45
5 or 6 different places. There's no reason to. It's good we can keep this. I would say that would be a. 00:36:49
I I I'm really honestly not certain. 00:36:56
If that would be a Commissioner call as far as moving. 00:36:59
The miscellaneous revenue, and I honestly can't even identify, I know you probably could. What's the miscellaneous revenue? 00:37:03
OK. 00:37:11
And we'd have to research and make sure it's not state distributions and all of those things. 00:37:15
The point is, come March 1st, I have to have somewhere to put these people. 00:37:20
And right now, 4013 technically, right now on paper and in essence, 4013 can't fund them. 00:37:25
Well, they can. They're going to have 170,000. 00:37:33
That's operational costs. 00:37:35
That covers operational for the rest of the year, not salary. 00:37:37
This happens his operation. 00:37:42
There's the state views it a little differently. 00:37:45
OK. 00:37:47
And there's kind of two issues going on here, right? Wherever we have to do what we're doing now to cover for this year, but then 00:37:49
also setting up for what we're going to do. 00:37:53
Going forward, yes. 00:37:57
Well, but setting up for what we're going to do forward edit is going to be gone. 00:37:58
There will not be an edit. 00:38:03
In 2028. 00:38:04
We will be. We will be using. 00:38:06
Some will have to. 00:38:09
All the edit revenue is going to be generated. 00:38:11
Forwarded to the accounting general, right, So it will be gone. So we're just the general fund 20262027 general budget is. 00:38:14
Right. 00:38:24
So and and the reality is general can support this. It's not and and moving them to where they're going to wind up. 00:38:25
In two years anyways makes it where I don't have to move them again, but it's already budgeted. 00:38:31
In edit why don't we take the money out of there where it was budgeted at? 00:38:36
And move it where it now is $400,000 worth of worth of miscellaneous income that is not state. 00:38:41
Regulated. 00:38:50
Then whatever you guys want. 00:38:51
But I can't guarantee that. 00:38:55
Because I haven't done the research on the miscellaneous income for edit will the miscellaneous income. 00:38:56
Roll over. 00:39:01
It always does. Everything goes back to cash. 00:39:02
I'll make sure I understand you. I'm just saying, does it stay in the if if we fund this out of general for? 00:39:06
The rest of 26, we can take a look at this going forward. 00:39:12
When we get. 00:39:16
Yes. 00:39:17
You can take all as many times as you want, I just need a home to start them out in. 00:39:18
The the budget may look different next year for for one year we. 00:39:22
I think what we were doing is collectively are trying to come up with a solid foundation to house the edit operations. 00:39:26
And then the employees themselves. 00:39:32
We didn't see, we can't beat in the future see what it's a little bit clearly. 00:39:34
We were just trying to make sure that we had all of our bases covered to establish a solid foundation. 00:39:37
Just a transition form. We're observing 9 employees on the same day. 00:39:43
Yeah. 00:39:47
My payroll clerk needs to know where to pay them from. 00:39:48
OK. 00:39:51
I'm confused. 00:39:53
I am. I'm just I'm just a logical guy. But we. 00:39:56
Budgeted 400,000 in edit and that was going to pay for recycling this year right? 00:40:00
So that that was the the Commissioners commitment. 00:40:05
To assist funding in the solid waste district. So how much were they going to spend? More than 400,000. Their budget was 00:40:09
significantly higher than 400,000. 00:40:13
So what they did they they also get cadet mining, They get what, twelve $1400 a month from from the state? 00:40:18
Uh, from for the. 00:40:25
Just for the cat from the cadet distributions from the state, then they also had. 00:40:27
Their generated revenues that would actually. 00:40:31
Revert back to. 00:40:34
Semi, I think, yeah. 00:40:36
David Maskell had alluded to about $60,000 they got from last year. 00:40:38
So that money then would be. 00:40:43
Redeposited back into the. 00:40:45
Solid waste district as well so. 00:40:47
You had a. 00:40:49
400,000 plus the casual funds plus the generated revenues. 00:40:50
And the reality was the commissioners were gonna have to find somewhere else to fund it from anyways, because historically we used 00:40:54
to cut a check from edit. 00:40:58
And move it. 00:41:01
And we got yelled at by the SBOA for that last year. 00:41:03
We can't move. 00:41:07
Income. 00:41:10
From Ed. 00:41:11
Unless we can prove without a doubt that those dollars are not state generated. 00:41:13
Is that out there? 00:41:18
A little bit I just. 00:41:20
I guess. 00:41:22
I'll just say it. 00:41:24
I'll take the arrows. 00:41:25
I don't know why government has to fund. 00:41:27
Subsidized recycling. 00:41:29
Because government is absorbing it, it's become a department of the county. 00:41:31
I know, but I'm just. 00:41:35
Just in general. 00:41:36
Why do we have to subsidize recycling? 00:41:37
I live in New Albany. I pay a fee. 00:41:40
I pay a fee in New Albany $18.00 a month and my friend minister connect with us too. 00:41:44
Yeah. And you it's, it's, I hope as things go forward that a private entity will step up and offer curbside services to the county 00:41:49
and you know, so. 00:41:53
But in the meantime, that didn't happen and. 00:41:57
This is where we are fled. 00:42:00
We we feel like it's an important. 00:42:02
Enough service that we want to continue to. 00:42:05
Subsidized it, just like electricity was and water was Once Upon a time, until we can get. 00:42:08
The infrastructure in place for. 00:42:14
Private industry to see the. 00:42:17
The need or the necessity or the? 00:42:20
The value in it, you know. 00:42:24
So, umm. 00:42:25
Anyway, that's. 00:42:28
Those discussions took the better part of about six months, but that's where we landed. 00:42:29
Can I be completely honest? 00:42:33
I'm sorry, can I be completely honest for a moment? 00:42:35
I'm incredibly disappointed with the conversations that are happening here, just so we're all aware, mostly because there were a 00:42:39
few on the council's body that were very. 00:42:43
Supportive of the county retaining recycling. 00:42:48
And the fact that there. 00:42:51
Not willing to at least find, even if it's a temporary home. 00:42:56
A guaranteed place to pay them from right now is a bit challenging for me. 00:43:00
The commissioners put in a lot of work. 00:43:06
I've put in a lot of work, Stanley put in a lot of work. 00:43:08
Miss Fox put in a lot of work to try and make this. 00:43:11
Absorption. 00:43:14
Of the district for our county to retain recycling services. 00:43:15
As smooth as possible and give the Council as many options as we could within. 00:43:19
Within reason because we don't have a Magic 8 ball. 00:43:24
Are these people have to be paid? 00:43:29
Their their first paycheck is is March 6th. 00:43:31
Are we gonna tell me where I'm hanging from? Are we gonna unappropriate the 400,000? 00:43:35
Or whatever portion we don't need. 00:43:40
Yes. 00:43:42
How much? 00:43:43
I have no idea. 00:43:44
So. 00:43:47
I think. 00:43:48
You only bought it at least 50 some odd thousand for the household hazardous waste. 00:43:49
Yeah, it's already been brought up that whatever happens at the next meeting. 00:43:56
It's temporary for 26. 00:44:00
This whole issue. 00:44:03
Will be revisited. 00:44:04
For the 27 budget cycle. 00:44:06
This is just to get started. 00:44:09
And that's it. 00:44:12
It's gotta be revisited when we submit a budget for. 00:44:14
Next year. 00:44:18
Which is in. 00:44:19
What, four months? 00:44:21
Hopefully it's warm by then. 00:44:23
I was getting 15 minutes. I think we have a consensus to. 00:44:29
Right to move, to move forward. It's just temporary. 00:44:35
The general fund. 00:44:38
Michelle has job descriptions that are going to need approval from the council as well as an updated salary ordinance to reflect 00:44:40
those. 00:44:44
I have one question. 00:44:48
Are we, are we locked into these? 00:44:49
I mean if we find that we can do, I know we have 11 part time employees, 912 employees, eight part time. 00:44:51
And I don't know of all the job duties, but. 00:44:59
Are those are those permanent locked in positions or? 00:45:02
No. 00:45:07
Gracious. OK, they're just to start us out. 00:45:07
OK. 00:45:10
I'm good. Do you need another job? I just. I just had. Do you want a part time job? I just asked no. 00:45:12
The only thing I can tell you is stay tuned. 00:45:18
We're working diligently to make this happen and we're trying to make it as cost effective as possible and. 00:45:20
Honor several piece. 00:45:28
People's wishes in the community. 00:45:29
To retain some form of recycling for Floyd County. Think you know what direction? 00:45:31
Yes. 00:45:38
We're good. 00:45:39
OK, umm. 00:45:42
Yeah, Diana, we are on Item 4, which is the discussion of digital Records project. 00:45:44
Do you want them to prove the job sections tonight even though salary organs will be in March or? 00:45:51
Preference. Do you have the job descriptions? If they wouldn't, I do not have them with me. The job description, yeah, we review 00:45:57
them. 00:46:00
Commissioners, but not the Council marches agenda. 00:46:04
With an updated salary ordinance, yes to adopt. 00:46:09
OK. 00:46:14
Sorry you guys, you're out of time. You're 2 minutes ago. Listen. 00:46:16
I'm not going to take much time. This is just me saying please please please. 00:46:19
Please please. 00:46:24
Seriously consider this digital records project. 00:46:27
The first estimate that we received. 00:46:31
Was less than $400,000 and it covers. 00:46:34
Really three of your largest departments as far as when it comes to record keeping. 00:46:37
And then the commissioners in HR, so we're talking the treasurer's office, the auditor's office, HR commissioners and the CEO and 00:46:42
planning office. 00:46:46
That's a lot. 00:46:50
A paper documentation. 00:46:51
That could be saved. 00:46:53
So what's not covered in the 400,000? 00:46:56
I'm a punchline guy. 00:47:00
I don't know other offices I don't know. 00:47:01
This is we told them to give us a first stage estimate. 00:47:03
Because we knew this project was going to take years. 00:47:06
No, I get it. And I believe that we have a tsunami that we're facing, but I don't want it to be, you know? 00:47:09
I would say off the top of my head, you're looking at. 00:47:14
What did you say assessor was involved? 00:47:18
And the assessors not on this 3/4 not involved they were looking at. 00:47:20
The ones that were moving the soonest. 00:47:25
Because we're being separated from our permanent records. Understood. 00:47:27
So give me just a second. I have it actually pulled out. Clerk's office wasn't involved. Clerk's office has a whole lot of stuff 00:47:30
already digitized. 00:47:34
And they can convert anything that is already digital into their system. In fact, the last three years worth of records in the 00:47:37
auditor's office. 00:47:41
A lot of it is also digitized because my staff is proactive. 00:47:44
And they'll be able to convert our digital records. 00:47:48
So the only ones missed. So we're missing the assessor, clerk, recorder, surveyor, stormwater and Hwy. department in this first 00:47:52
stage? 00:47:55
I have to let this. I have to let this. 00:48:01
Company know basically whether or not the county is going to be pursuing this. 00:48:03
I understand. You know where I'm coming from, right? 00:48:07
I don't want four more *** a half $1,000,000. 00:48:11
We were very upfront with this company that if we went into this, it would be in stages and it would be over years. 00:48:14
But also. 00:48:21
They can't take all of our paper documentation at once. I don't know if you've ever seen my page. 00:48:22
But my document cages. 00:48:27
Overflowing impacts the gills because I have paper documents that can never be destroyed. 00:48:29
Unless they are digitized and signed off on by the state. 00:48:35
Every single payroll voucher. 00:48:38
That currently exists since the inception of this county. 00:48:41
Lives in my storage cage in the basement of the city county building. 00:48:45
And technically I'm not supposed to be separated from my permanent records. 00:48:49
But I'm going to be. 00:48:53
Or the commissioners are going to have to pay somebody to carry all that stuff up to the storage on the 5th floor of that 00:48:55
building. 00:48:58
The clerks office has stuff in Louisville. 00:49:00
Yes. 00:49:03
This would get that stuff out of Louisville and onto. 00:49:04
That's that's not in the underground caverns. 00:49:08
I've been there. 00:49:11
Yeah, the point is. 00:49:12
It's $380,000 for the first for the first wave. 00:49:15
It's that's my office. 00:49:20
And the treasurer's office. 00:49:22
Something we can play pay for out of the Gold Bond. 00:49:24
It is something you can pass. Does it qualify for special purchase? Because there are very few. 00:49:27
I thought it had to be capped. 00:49:35
Capital, It is a capital improvement. 00:49:36
Yeah, it's digital. 00:49:39
OK. Yeah. So. 00:49:41
So. 00:49:43
Basically, I need to know whether or not to tell this lady that we are still considering this and pursuing it, and that the 00:49:45
Council and Commissioners are going to find a way to fund it. 00:49:49
Obviously I'm not gonna sign anything. 00:49:54
I just need. 00:49:56
To know that. 00:49:56
We're not wasting her time or our time talking to her. 00:49:57
So I got a question for you. So you said this. 00:50:00
Amount of money, it's going to take several years. 00:50:03
So aren't they going to come back next year and want more money? 00:50:07
No, we pay upfront. 00:50:10
The soup ain't up front. 00:50:12
That's against uh. 00:50:13
SPLA regulations. 00:50:15
I'm gonna say that that Frank, it's been a very long day. My apologies. 00:50:16
Because it's a signed contract, it can be encumbered into the next year. Once it's created, there you go. 00:50:20
And there's no time when they don't encumbrances. 00:50:26
Nick, you read the specifications on those federal grants. Could this be something that would be eligible for that? 00:50:28
How many miles can I go? 00:50:34
OK. I know Charleston got a huge chunk for removing Quonset huts, but you know, is that, I mean, we're updating things. I mean, is 00:50:37
that not general operations or how they get around that? 00:50:42
Private, individual residents that they're going, that's what I've come out. 00:50:49
What did you ask? What kind of funding? 00:50:54
You know, we're recently got. 00:50:57
Some of that for. 00:51:02
Yeah, again, infrastructure, but. 00:51:04
What are species used for? 00:51:07
I just want to make a comment that for at least the last 10 years I've been telling the county. 00:51:10
If you want to reduce your operational cost, you have got to increase your IT budget. 00:51:15
And this is IT. 00:51:20
So that the public can serve themselves well. I'll add, too, if we don't do something, we're just kicking the can that's going to 00:51:22
grow. 00:51:26
Yeah, this is not going to go away, and it's only gonna get worse. 00:51:31
I have payroll records from the 40s that I can't get rid of. 00:51:34
I'm pretty sure I didn't get a check then. 00:51:38
I don't know. 00:51:42
Is is everyone in favor of her? 00:51:45
Telling them that we're still. 00:51:49
Moving forward. 00:51:50
Yes. 00:51:52
Yeah, yes. 00:51:53
Thank you. 00:51:55
I'll get what I can. 00:52:01
Yes. 00:52:04
Thank you. 00:52:05
All right, EMS update. 00:52:06
Yeah, so. 00:52:09
Tomorrow's going to be the final public hearing. 00:52:11
For the territory and then they move into March. 00:52:13
Which will be the vote for Highlander to. 00:52:17
Join the terror. That's the actual adoption. 00:52:19
Meeting. 00:52:23
Currently working on interlocal agreement between the Commissioners and the territory regarding. 00:52:24
The. 00:52:32
Aspects. So that's going to probably become bit forthcoming here before too long. 00:52:34
Recently had Baker Tilly. 00:52:38
Do an analysis. 00:52:41
Not only for the territory, but we were able to ask. 00:52:43
Two questions out of Baker Tilly 1 is what would a potential fire and EMS lit generate? 00:52:46
Here in Floyd County. 00:52:52
And it was just right around 12.2, just a little less than $12.2 million, which. 00:52:54
The fire and EMS lit under new lit structure is the only lit that has lit share with it. So we have to be. 00:53:00
Kind of divvied up between the different fire departments throughout the county, which was. 00:53:06
One of the main reasons that we needed. 00:53:10
Highlighted. 00:53:13
A highlighter of the territory to come together because. 00:53:13
Distributing it to three departments versus 2 maybe would make it. 00:53:16
Not as near as effective. 00:53:20
So we had them take that till the end or. 00:53:22
Uh, yeah, probably because I think we got a few things success there because I don't, I don't know if there might be a delay on 00:53:27
some of that. 00:53:30
Or not out of the. 00:53:33
Legislature here this. 00:53:35
Session but anyway. 00:53:36
What we were able to do is is kind of get an idea of of what the lid would generate. 00:53:39
Get an idea how it would be distributed? 00:53:44
And then? 00:53:46
Kind of look at what it would look like to take the returns. 00:53:48
From the EMS billing. 00:53:52
And the leftover lid amounts. 00:53:53
And put it back in the territory to offset any kind of property tax impact. So. 00:53:56
As you know, currently Floyd County residents are paying you know, .50 for public safety tax as it stands right now in the. 00:54:01
New list structure, the firing muscle. It has a cap of .40, so even if we were running. 00:54:07
At the cap, you're still saving Floyd County residents .10. 00:54:13
And lit but the lid tax that were there. 00:54:18
That they're paying now is covering. 00:54:21
A lot of different things, that's correct. 00:54:24
That was my question. 00:54:26
So. 00:54:28
That lit tax that we're talking about here goes directly to the fire it does. 00:54:29
And we are going the county is going to get one lit rate. 00:54:34
And that that does not incorporate. Those are two different. They do not. 00:54:39
Go together, OK? 00:54:43
Just just double checking. Yeah, that's not part of the, what was it, 1.2 general? 00:54:45
Yeah, that's yeah. So that, that's a different lit than than would be considered, which was one of the reasons that. 00:54:50
We decided to put this in the territory to begin with. 00:54:55
You know to be able to give both entities that cushion. 00:54:58
For growth if needed be in the future. 00:55:01
But anyway. 00:55:04
I really believe that. 00:55:05
It's very plausible to get this rate. 00:55:07
Under .30, which I think would be a huge win. It's cheaper than what? 00:55:10
They're going to be doing it now, but they're currently doing it now. Both Highlander and. 00:55:14
The Floyd County fire territory, and I think that would be a great thing. 00:55:18
Most likely we're going to be looking. 00:55:22
Once this territory if it is approved in March coming back and. 00:55:24
Seeking council approval to start. 00:55:29
Making some. 00:55:31
Acquisitions for some equipment and even funding. 00:55:32
The person to. 00:55:35
Get this ball rolling so you know once this is approved, things are going to have to move pretty quickly to get this thing stood 00:55:37
up. 00:55:40
For the end of 2026. 00:55:44
When the contracts. 00:55:46
Are over. 00:55:48
As some of you all may have seen as we walked in. 00:55:50
There's a ambulance outside from Pin Care. Our representative is here today. 00:55:53
From Pink Haired. 00:55:58
Wanted to give you guys an opportunity of what these. 00:55:59
These units look like it is the exact same cab. 00:56:01
The box configuration in the rear is just a little bit different than what we went with, but it's it's the same kind of. 00:56:06
Set up you would Most people wouldn't notice the differences between what we, what we have, or what. 00:56:11
It was out there so. 00:56:16
I encourage everybody if you want to take a look at. 00:56:18
What we got coming down the pipeline to go out there and take a look and that ask some questions. Our EMS consultant Jeff Dixon is 00:56:20
here. 00:56:23
Mr. Kidwell from Pin Care is here, so he'll be happy to answer any questions for you, and I am. 00:56:26
Happy to answer any further questions. 00:56:30
The Council or the Commissioners by half. 00:56:33
I I have a question about the e-mail that came out. I think Danny forwarded it. Mm-hmm. 00:56:36
So it's sad that we wouldn't be able to reduce that property tax rate until 2020. 00:56:40
8. 00:56:47
So currently there's lit share as as it stands from that that districts get. 00:56:47
What we're talking about is. 00:56:53
What happens in 2028 when the new lead structure goes in place? Can we use some of the lit? 00:56:56
Leftover money that we have right now to reduce that rate. 00:57:01
Going in instead of. 00:57:05
Going in with a high rate and then bringing it back down. So the current lit structure that they have in place. 00:57:08
The I'm not taking about fire lead, I'm talking about using some of our public safety tax lit. 00:57:14
That we have available for us right now. 00:57:20
That's not a question for me at the island. 00:57:24
And and supplementing. 00:57:27
That fire territory to keep that rate down to a point where. 00:57:29
It's not going way high and then coming back down. 00:57:34
You, you understand what I'm saying. I'm not saying, I'm not saying it's not possible. I think what we need is. 00:57:37
Which is the way the way the structure is going to work in 28. 00:57:44
You know. 00:57:47
We have a. 00:57:49
General Lip. 00:57:50
Right, we can put, we can fit everything under that and not do. 00:57:52
The emergency? No, no, no. That's what I'm just saying. We need to see what. 00:57:56
Those projections come in at. 00:58:01
Before we start making decisions on. 00:58:04
If we want to. 00:58:06
Drop, reduce funding now. 00:58:09
I'm saying let's take $3,000,000 out of the. 00:58:12
Public safety lit. 00:58:18
Currently, but we have. 00:58:19
At the end of the year, this. 00:58:22
Past year we have $4.2 million in there. We're going to get 6.6 additional $1,000,000. 00:58:24
We're going to have. 00:58:30
$10.8 million. 00:58:31
In that public safety. 00:58:33
We have budget of 5 million. 00:58:35
So we're having extra 5.8 million. 00:58:37
Let's take 3 million of that. 00:58:40
For 2027. 00:58:42
And get that right down. 00:58:43
So that we keep that rate in kind of consistent going into 2028, I think what's important. 00:58:46
Yeah, so we need some help. 00:58:52
We need some help figuring all that out. 00:58:54
But I think if we ask Baker Tilly, we can maybe do that. 00:58:56
And make this really look like. 00:59:00
A win for everybody in the county right now. 00:59:03
Greenville and Georgetown are going to be really. 00:59:08
Umm taxed heavily. 00:59:11
Going into this territory. 00:59:15
And and and. 00:59:17
And they and you got to remember that. 00:59:18
Greenville was was a Volunteer Fire Department. 00:59:22
Five years ago. 00:59:26
And was paying no taxes. So if we have the if, if we have the bandwidth. 00:59:27
In the money that we have a bit on hand. 00:59:33
To do this, I think we should at least. 00:59:36
Have Baker Tilly do an analysis for us to see if we can. 00:59:38
Do that. 00:59:42
So I think it's important to recognize is that when Baker Tilly does come in and do an analysis, they base their analysis on the 00:59:42
worst case scenario. 00:59:46
One of those worst case scenarios is that no lid exists anymore. Well, currently we do have a current lid structure. Currently 00:59:50
they are receiving lit shares. 00:59:54
So even though that's their approved rate, that would be their approved rate without lit, so. 00:59:58
What they're done is they get, they're given that rate. 01:00:02
And they've gone back and now that they know they're still getting this lit share that will be readjusted because. 01:00:05
As it stands right now, if you look at the budget orders for. 01:00:10
This year, last year, I believe they're receiving right about $1.2 million. 01:00:13
Each and lit, so that already goes back to reduce that rate. So there already is that. 01:00:18
Happening now that that rate that you see is like I said in the analysis, the is the worst case scenario that lit doesn't exist, 01:00:23
but it does exist. 01:00:27
As it stands right now and they are receiving it so. 01:00:31
That's not what. 01:00:33
The real rate, well, I think people want to know out in the county. 01:00:34
What I'm hearing is what is my? 01:00:38
Property tax rate. 01:00:42
Going to be. 01:00:43
And how much is it going to increase? 01:00:45
With this fire territory. 01:00:47
And they've heard. 01:00:49
Like big numbers? 01:00:50
And I think if we can, if we have the possibility, and I believe we do. 01:00:52
I'm really sincerely I've I've done some numbers, I've spent two hours looking at numbers this afternoon. 01:00:58
I really think we have the possibility. 01:01:04
To keep those under the three, just like you said, I I think that would be. 01:01:07
Awesome. And I'd like not to wait until 2028 to make that happen. I'd like to start that in 2027 and I know the public are the if 01:01:13
our territory has has went on record and said that. 01:01:18
They would intend to match dollar for dollar every, you know, lit dollar. They have to reduce their budgets. What can we have? 01:01:25
Baker Tilly take a look at this so that we can see if we can go in 2027. 01:01:30
With and how much it would cost us. 01:01:37
How much we would have to? 01:01:39
Control March. 01:01:41
Agenda for Basic contract for. 01:01:43
Forecasting. 01:01:47
So we can we can add that. 01:01:49
To what we want them to do, OK. 01:01:51
OK. 01:01:54
And somebody tell me what happens to the money? 01:01:55
Did the fire department already has? 01:01:58
When they become part of the territory. 01:02:02
Highlander. Let's say they got. 01:02:05
I don't know, $0.75. I don't. I don't know whatever it is. 01:02:08
What happens to that money? 01:02:11
Does that go into the territory or does that? 01:02:13
Stay with Highlander fire districts I believe. I believe cash on hand gets moved into the territory but any debt service stays 01:02:16
with. 01:02:21
With the the district. 01:02:26
Yeah. Well, that's way up there, yes. 01:02:28
But they have a cap 2 cap. 01:02:33
To cover that debt service. 01:02:36
So if that if that that service stays that you can. 01:02:39
My hope would be that that most of these and just kind of. 01:02:43
Like. 01:02:47
You already cashed it, did they? They used some of their cash on hand to pay down their debt moving into the territory so that 01:02:48
way. 01:02:50
They were moving to this. 01:02:53
Almost that freeze I would hope. 01:02:55
That both all entities would. 01:02:56
I'm going to move that to do that so. 01:02:58
Yeah, I don't know what their books. 01:03:00
Have any other discussion on that or any other information? 01:03:02
Otherwise, I'll remind you that the prototype. 01:03:06
Ambulances. 01:03:10
The demo we have. I like your word better though. Prototype. 01:03:11
Is available for tour. 01:03:17
Want to ask one question. 01:03:18
Is that on a Ford chassis? 01:03:20
All right, we're ahead of the game then. 01:03:23
I don't see anyone from. 01:03:29
The general public here tonight, does anyone? 01:03:33
Just make any further comment. 01:03:36
From the gallery or the board? I don't see anyone up here so. 01:03:38
All right, so moved. 01:03:45