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	How's the?	00:00:01
	Floyd County.	00:00:03
	Council, if you'll please.	00:00:05
	Rise and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.	00:00:07
	I play the allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.	00:00:10
	And to the Republic for which it stands.	00:00:15
	Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.	00:00:17
	All right, kind of a busy agenda of any of these are placeholders.	00:00:24
	On the agenda or there?	00:00:27
	For new information so.	00:00:29
	Be very, very brief, someone we just.	00:00:31
	Went into kind of an hour deep dive on.	00:00:33
	But we'll revisit.	00:00:36
	All these items on the agenda you could probably.	00:00:39
	We put them out.	00:00:41
	Cup and scramble up and pull them up one at a time because.	00:00:43
	They're not listed with regards to any sort of agenda or importance.	00:00:46
	Where we have new information, we'll utilize it.	00:00:50
	Stan Heil is going to join us talk a little bit about the wheel tax. We do have a little bit of new information on.	00:00:54
	On that, it does appear that Indianapolis is going to mandate some sort of wheel tax being in place.	00:00:59
	If we as a county want to get our full match on the community.	00:01:06
	Crossing funds.	00:01:09
	Now, before we start that, I make a motion to approve the minutes from our last meeting. Thank you.	00:01:11
	Anybody opposed? We're all in favor.	00:01:18
	Great. All right. Thank you.	00:01:21
	Mr. Heil, thank you, Sir, and thank you for allowing me the opportunity to talk.	00:01:27
	The wheel tax obviously was addressed at the I attended the ASC conference with.	00:01:31
	David Byrne.	00:01:36
	His legislative representatives.	00:01:37
	They I sent a sketch presentation to you to actually kind of encompass.	00:01:40
	What was shared at that time?	00:01:45
	And as you saw it, there's a.	00:01:47
	A lot of movement.	00:01:51
	With regards to funding county operations and revenue sources.	00:01:53
	The reduction in property taxes or the.	00:01:58
	Property tax reform combined with.	00:02:01
	Support for.	00:02:04
	Local income tax reform.	00:02:06
	The wheel tax itself, it also came with a caveat of legislative action that's.	00:02:08
	Probably still rolling at the.	00:02:14
	As we are speaking today, I did reach out to the representative.	00:02:16
	To try to get some clarity, obviously he is.	00:02:19
	They're pretty tied up at the moment, but.	00:02:23
	I think we need to have a discussion regarding that wheel tax.	00:02:25
	Because of its impending impact to community, correct?	00:02:29
	Community Crossings grant funds.	00:02:32
	It's estimated that we and Floyd County potentially could receive up to well over $800,000 in community.	00:02:36
	Crossings grant support.	00:02:43
	Just by ensuring that we have the wheel tax in place.	00:02:45
	So.	00:02:51
	I think that's what.	00:02:52
	Commissioner Knable wanted on the agenda.	00:02:54
	Have these discussions that we know what we have in place to be able to move from.	00:02:57
	Does that require just a minimum? I know there's a range of the bill taxes.	00:03:02
	Just a minimum or is it the higher the tax the more you make it in return?	00:03:07
	With regards to the Community Crossings grant now, I believe this just.	00:03:11
	Long as it's in place.	00:03:15
	That's the funding potentially is going to be available for us at that.	00:03:17
	Roughly $800,000, but we're not sure whether or not it's going to be.	00:03:21
	Prorated or not because we.	00:03:24
	We haven't seen the final form of it yet. No, Sir, absolutely correct. Yes, Sir. So can you talk about the will tax a little bit?	00:03:27
	What is the minimum?	00:03:30
	You're not prepared for that.	00:03:36
	They haven't stated a quote UN quote minimum. I think the standard is reference $25 per vehicle be divided by wheels and we're	00:03:38
	also exploring.	00:03:42
	To make sure that we can give concessions to agricultural equipment if at all possible. We're aware of that and would like to do	00:03:46
	that.	00:03:50
	We don't know what latitude.	00:03:54
	Will or won't happen with regards to minimums versus maximums, whether they've been prorated or not. I just want to let you guys	00:03:56
	know what we know at this point in time.	00:04:00
	But.	00:04:04
	There's general agreement among us, unless I'm wrong, that.	00:04:05
	It would be very difficult for us to give up that $800,000 because that's a very large.	00:04:08
	Percentage of our.	00:04:12
	Or paving? Yeah, what? And that is used for paving. And I, you know, I think we should make that clear for the public to	00:04:14
	understand that 800,000 is for paving.	00:04:19
	So, umm.	00:04:24
	Is it the Council or the Commissioners who put that tax in place?	00:04:25
	About.	00:04:30
	Council by September.	00:04:34
	Thank you.	00:04:35
	I have a question.	00:04:36
	Look retain sales funds from the will tax the county to the state.	00:04:38
	The cabin, those funds are retained in the state, I mean in the county.	00:04:43
	Yes, Sir.	00:04:47
	And we need to understand how much that's going to generate.	00:04:49
	So that's another page.	00:04:53
	Question.	00:04:55
	And also there are probably you know.	00:04:59
	Restrictions on how that can be spent.	00:05:01
	Sure. Well, so.	00:05:03
	Yeah, lots to work with.	00:05:05
	Yeah.	00:05:08
	OK.	00:05:10
	So probably not much more to say about that. We'll keep you posted as we get information. But yeah, the deadline, we don't want to	00:05:11
	miss that deadline.	00:05:15
	Will be another year behind. We should probably just make sure we put that on the agenda for every.	00:05:22
	Count my opinion for every council meeting until we get an answer.	00:05:31
	To how we're gonna.	00:05:36
	Approach that because it's that important.	00:05:38
	Yes, absolutely. Because there's also that you got to back that up for advertising, all of the right, exactly. So it's not	00:05:40
	September, it's probably sometime in early August that we need to make a decision in order to get everything.	00:05:46
	In place and while the advertising in.	00:05:53
	Notify all the other.	00:05:56
	Entities, if that's what we've got to do, I mean, it's, it's not just, it's my assumption that early August is going to be a very	00:05:58
	busy time frame for the council, OK.	00:06:02
	So I'm wondering out loud.	00:06:08
	So if the county passes the wheel tax.	00:06:12
	Sorry if the county passes a wheel tax the city get.	00:06:16
	Percentage.	00:06:20
	But if you look at the local income tax reform, that's also been presented.	00:06:22
	David Butter from ASC also said.	00:06:29
	This has taken a completely different look than the.	00:06:32
	Way that we have.	00:06:35
	Always done business.	00:06:37
	So this is a brand new.	00:06:39
	Legislative reform, even when it comes to the bill tax.	00:06:41
	And the distribution of the collected funds so?	00:06:44
	I think we need to take a real deep dive here. Take a look at how they're going to distribute.	00:06:47
	What they're doing in.	00:06:51
	Local income tax reform is pushing a lot of the responsibilities back on there.	00:06:53
	County Council.	00:06:57
	As the county adopts taxes in the future.	00:06:58
	That money is strictly.	00:07:01
	County adopted anything with the city, they'll have to adopt their own.	00:07:03
	And all of this amplifies out to each of the taxing districts, so.	00:07:08
	In this reform, there is a.	00:07:12
	A wealth of.	00:07:14
	Of information and.	00:07:16
	Change that I think we all are going to need to take a real deep dive into.	00:07:17
	Get a great firm understanding, or at least a base understanding of.	00:07:22
	What it's going to look like.	00:07:26
	Impacts.	00:07:28
	To the county.	00:07:29
	Moving forward, especially with all of our revenue sources.	00:07:30
	Sounds to me right.	00:07:36
	Age is going to address as well in June is how this how the distributions are changing and allocations are changing and all of	00:07:37
	those things.	00:07:41
	And stand up and correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I have read, these adjustments are going to happen over the course of the	00:07:44
	next three.	00:07:48
	Years. I think there's even a local income tax that we currently have that will phase out completely by 2028.	00:07:51
	That, that, yes, ma'am, that's correct. There it's going to be. It's technically phasing in from 20.	00:07:57
	26 through 28.	00:08:03
	Which one of the local income taxes do we have that?	00:08:07
	Thank you. What's my understanding that?	00:08:14
	That other Lids are going to have to be reestablished after 2028 as well.	00:08:17
	So my question.	00:08:22
	For that is, is that if it?	00:08:23
	This is implemented before that time frame.	00:08:25
	Would have to be reimplemented afterwards.	00:08:28
	The legislative comments were was that quite?	00:08:31
	We asked that question.	00:08:34
	Is that each year any kind of local income taxes that are adopted by?	00:08:35
	The body has to be.	00:08:40
	Reconfirm every calendar year. So yes Sir.	00:08:41
	Thank you. Which which also brings up another point about bonding with LIT dollars.	00:08:44
	So and and we can only bond.	00:08:51
	25%.	00:08:53
	Of the lip dollars that we bring in is what I think I've read.	00:08:55
	So far I do think it's very important for all the council people to get.	00:08:59
	To some kind of.	00:09:05
	Understanding of.	00:09:07
	Of this and I know that we work with bacterial and pages putting together a presentation for you, but I also spoke independently	00:09:09
	to date about David Baddar.	00:09:13
	He offered and extended the opportunity if the Council so wishes or the Commissioners.	00:09:18
	To come down and meet with Floyd County to have an in-depth discussion regarding.	00:09:23
	His knowledge and his.	00:09:28
	Is understanding of a lot of this reform as well so.	00:09:30
	We can't pass up.	00:09:36
	Yeah, yeah. But.	00:09:37
	Can we just have him down for the next joint meeting that we have?	00:09:42
	How do you think?	00:09:47
	Whenever you think would be most appropriate.	00:09:50
	We could.	00:09:53
	Based on his calendar I would imagine.	00:09:55
	We'll reach out.	00:09:57
	Yeah, if you'd like to let me know or if you want to reach out to him directly or even one of his legislative aides.	00:09:59
	OK, we can change our date. Thank you.	00:10:08
	All right. Item 2 is the cumulative bridge tax increase. That's really a placeholder.	00:10:11
	We didn't complete any bridge restoration between.	00:10:16
	The last meeting today.	00:10:19
	So the need has not gone away. And again, that's a reallocation.	00:10:21
	Rather than the.	00:10:25
	An increase in just being coming on.	00:10:26
	The Council to.	00:10:29
	Try to have us an extra sliver of that that particular pie.	00:10:30
	And again, that's something that's going to look at formally.	00:10:34
	So it's it's just another.	00:10:40
	Piece of the puzzle that has to be put in place whenever we start.	00:10:43
	Looking at how we're going to allocate dollars in the budget, it's just another.	00:10:47
	Oh man.	00:10:52
	There's probably 100 pieces to this puzzle at this point, ever shifting.	00:10:53
	Bit creepy.	00:10:58
	Give us an update on.	00:11:00
	Blackstone Mill Bridge.	00:11:03
	You're welcome.	00:11:06
	This Bridge 51 blacksmith.	00:11:08
	Blackstone Mill Bridge.	00:11:10
	First, the replacement project.	00:11:12
	Our consultants have submitted their stage threes to for approval. That was.	00:11:16
	On timeline to get the September wedding.	00:11:21
	There's a lot of confusion out there, so I want to really. Yeah, I'm gonna.	00:11:26
	Try to go through football.	00:11:29
	Yeah. So that is the the new bridge project.	00:11:31
	I believe you all are aware that we had significant cost increases on that.	00:11:35
	Estimate uh.	00:11:40
	From roughly $5,000,000 construction cost to.	00:11:41
	$8 million construction cost, not including the inspection.	00:11:45
	Total construction and construction inspections probably closer to 9 million. At this point, we won't know the final.	00:11:50
	Total until it actually goes to bid.	00:11:56
	As a result of that.	00:12:00
	We have been engaged with.	00:12:02
	Crow and.	00:12:06
	Brad being on this group.	00:12:10
	To discuss.	00:12:12
	Ban option for financing that.	00:12:13
	We've also been in discussions.	00:12:17
	Kipta, the MPO.	00:12:19
	To see if we could increase federal funding.	00:12:21
	For that project.	00:12:25
	They have committed to increase that.	00:12:26
	Roughly 2 1/2.	00:12:30
	$1,000,000 in federal funding could be additionally available for it.	00:12:31
	So our local match.	00:12:36
	Could be between 2 1/2 and four and a half million.	00:12:39
	Dollars for this project and we really won't know.	00:12:42
	We're sure, and that's why we're looking at the ban option.	00:12:46
	For that.	00:12:50
	I think Christy and.	00:12:52
	And Tim and their their teams will have a schedule together for that.	00:12:54
	We will need to have.	00:12:58
	The funding available.	00:13:00
	Within 30 days of the letting.	00:13:01
	So we're trying to get ahead of that schedule for all.	00:13:03
	So again, that's.	00:13:07
	Fantastic news, potentially because.	00:13:08
	We've been working under the.	00:13:11
	Paradigm, but we needed to come up with a million.	00:13:14
	And then we jump from that.	00:13:16
	4 million, but now it looks like the fits.	00:13:18
	Might very well.	00:13:22
	Honor that, 8020.	00:13:23
	Match up to the.	00:13:25
	Total of 8 million Kip the Kipta region. Other communities in southern Indiana recognize this as a critical regional project.	00:13:26
	And so then.	00:13:35
	We have found ways to try to divert funding to this project ahead of other projects.	00:13:37
	Being a little modest because his ongoing negotiations with him have been interval.	00:13:42
	Closing that gap.	00:13:47
	Yeah.	00:13:48
	I don't know if there's any possibility of this, but I'm just gonna.	00:13:50
	Throw it out there. The ready monies that are out there, they're already all.	00:13:54
	Assign the ready money.	00:13:58
	You know, they're already all assigned. I mean, this to me is a regional project.	00:14:01
	Which I think the ready money could have been a perfect.	00:14:06
	Fit for something like this, but I think it's.	00:14:11
	It's too far gone.	00:14:14
	To get any of that.	00:14:16
	So.	00:14:18
	I don't think that's an option.	00:14:20
	Right. And that's, but that's a hindsight call because for the last three years we were.	00:14:22
	This is a $5 million project. Everything is covered. Everything is covered.	00:14:27
	So and those monies were already.	00:14:31
	Allocate this and.	00:14:34
	Irrevocably so, yeah.	00:14:35
	Yeah.	00:14:37
	The only other thing, if I could add that would just be our last discussion, the Endless, to try to approach this as a banned	00:14:40
	thought process.	00:14:43
	Go ahead and implementing the ordinance from the Council's perspective like we did the Grant Line Rd. project and up to.	00:14:46
	That 4.5 in the ordinance that way we have flexibility as we go to to market with the band then we can pull that back like we do	00:14:52
	with the Grant Line Rd. project for what the need actually will be.	00:14:57
	Just kind of a timing perspective, we've told.	00:15:03
	Grow. We want to have this.	00:15:06
	Out probably the end of August was what our discussion was so that we have the timing.	00:15:09
	And we're not. We want to make sure we have the money before.	00:15:15
	That 30 day deadline, we don't want to run into any, definitely don't want to slow the process down. So we are keeping them	00:15:19
	moving. I expect and hope that.	00:15:22
	Your June agenda for the council will have that ordinance ready to go as my hope again.	00:15:27
	With the thought process being an up to $4.5 million number.	00:15:33
	Where we can pull back on it or potentially utilize it for another bridge if the if.	00:15:36
	If we have that extra money, if the money if the.	00:15:42
	Bidding comes in less than a number and we decided to forward that whole number.	00:15:46
	So just to add to that so you all are aware.	00:15:50
	The other bridge that she mentioned.	00:15:53
	So we want to have some flexibility in the band.	00:15:55
	We have bridge 27 that is critical to replace.	00:15:58
	Within the next year or so.	00:16:02
	We were looking at.	00:16:05
	Obtaining some community crossings money for that.	00:16:07
	So we would be.	00:16:10
	On the look for about half of the cost if we could.	00:16:11
	Obtain the Community Crossings money.	00:16:14
	Right now estimates for that replacement.	00:16:16
	$2,000,000.	00:16:19
	So we just wanted to have.	00:16:20
	The flexibility.	00:16:22
	Potentially there.	00:16:24
	Nick, can you tell me where that's located?	00:16:25
	That's the George.	00:16:27
	Bridge numbers. Georgetown. Greenville.	00:16:29
	Bridge.	00:16:32
	Georgetown, Greenville Rd.	00:16:34
	Then another segue for you is that the last part of the new bridge construction project is a demolition of the old bridge.	00:16:37
	Yes, that is.	00:16:44
	Yes, that is included in the.	00:16:46
	The federally funded bridge replacement project.	00:16:48
	So that demolition is included.	00:16:51
	Project and will occur.	00:16:53
	End of the project, that's probably.	00:16:55
	Well, certainly.	00:16:59
	Have the existing bridge open.	00:17:01
	While the.	00:17:03
	New bridge is being replaced and that will segue into.	00:17:04
	The dam and bridge I gave you all.	00:17:08
	Brief update on the dam.	00:17:11
	Removal.	00:17:12
	The status of that is the same.	00:17:14
	Our consultant is obtaining the necessary permits.	00:17:16
	Expectation is that we will have those.	00:17:20
	By the end of May.	00:17:23
	And he believes that.	00:17:25
	They can take the dam out and reestablish the bank.	00:17:26
	A week, 510 day time periods so relatively quickly.	00:17:30
	We have engaged and requested quotes for the.	00:17:35
	Existing bridge repair.	00:17:39
	To get that.	00:17:41
	Operational, we will have to amend.	00:17:42
	Some of the permits that we are obtaining currently for the dam removal to include that bridge.	00:17:45
	Repair work.	00:17:51
	That should also be a relatively quick.	00:17:52
	Project once it is.	00:17:54
	Fully permanent. The bank reestablished.	00:17:57
	So your best guess, I'm not going to hold you to this because.	00:18:01
	There's too many variables.	00:18:05
	Just so I can tell the.	00:18:07
	40,000 people that keep asking me about the bridge being open.	00:18:09
	We're mid June.	00:18:13
	No, I would. I would say July is probably a good time.	00:18:15
	OK. Yeah, conservatively, I would say.	00:18:20
	Summer, but I think.	00:18:23
	If things roll correctly.	00:18:24
	Could be open in July.	00:18:27
	And I'm gonna get a little more.	00:18:28
	Granular is.	00:18:30
	Say because.	00:18:31
	We get a lot of questions about this, but.	00:18:33
	All of Floyd counties.	00:18:35
	Application for permits are done.	00:18:38
	Our work is done.	00:18:40
	Of the permitting process.	00:18:42
	What time we are waiting to hear back.	00:18:43
	From Indianapolis on that.	00:18:45
	Right, we have submitted what we need to have to.	00:18:47
	We will have to.	00:18:50
	Construction. Whoever we.	00:18:52
	Have to do the construction, We'll have to submit to the addendum.	00:18:55
	For whatever repair work that.	00:18:58
	It's necessary for the bridge.	00:19:01
	Necessarily submit until the bank is reestablished and just again. This is all part of the public record already, but.	00:19:04
	The dam removal cost is $200,000.	00:19:12
	150,000.	00:19:15
	Has been pledged with private donations.	00:19:17
	We're not going to get the name of the donors out yet because I don't know whether or not they want to be known publicly or not.	00:19:20
	We're covering 50,000 that from the county.	00:19:26
	So it's a pretty good.	00:19:29
	Coverage on on that end.	00:19:30
	We hope to have estimates on what the bridge will cost to repair the old bridge.	00:19:33
	Next week so we can hit the ground running then.	00:19:38
	We get approval on that.	00:19:40
	We have one other wrinkle in that as well, which is the.	00:19:42
	Property title.	00:19:45
	And uh.	00:19:47
	Again, we.	00:19:48
	Have possession of that property where the dam is but not.	00:19:49
	Title to it.	00:19:52
	We do now have the Floyd County title. That corridor was signed this week. I'm going to leave this meeting, go record that.	00:19:54
	So we do now have complete ownership of the fully county side.	00:20:01
	There was a hearing or is a hearing set for next week on the Clark County side about the one remaining partial that we're dealing	00:20:05
	with.	00:20:09
	And that was moved back court.	00:20:13
	Order yesterday from Thursday to Monday. So I'm hopeful Monday that we will have an order of ownership.	00:20:15
	On that parcel. So that's to be determined, but that's the last piece.	00:20:22
	So then we're doing everything that we can.	00:20:27
	We've done everything we can.	00:20:28
	On our end of it.	00:20:30
	Yes, that is correct. We're just waiting. The court in Clark County decide to set a hearing.	00:20:31
	That's his right to do that, so we will go to that hearing next week.	00:20:35
	And ask for that title to be transferred to us so nobody wants the old bridge open.	00:20:39
	More similar to people in this room.	00:20:46
	So it's been.	00:20:50
	A lot of work it's been.	00:20:52
	I think we're ready.	00:20:54
	To to really take off this thing.	00:20:56
	So anyway, yeah, I would hope.	00:20:58
	Hope sometime in July, but we'll see.	00:21:00
	Nick, thank you.	00:21:03
	All right, administrative building.	00:21:06
	Update We do have a formal matter that.	00:21:09
	Commissioner.	00:21:11
	Just convene and have a vote on this issue ourselves right now.	00:21:13
	You have to prepare the full County Resolution 2025-10 regarding bids for 120 W Spring Street.	00:21:17
	Upgrades furniture and signage.	00:21:24
	This is just.	00:21:26
	Empowering the.	00:21:31
	Envoy to go forward with the bid process.	00:21:33
	Bid acquisition process.	00:21:36
	Yes, this is the.	00:21:37
	Resolution.	00:21:39
	That you spoke of.	00:21:41
	In terms of obtaining the bids. And so the resolution is just very clear and that is that we're going to follow.	00:21:43
	Statutory guidelines.	00:21:51
	With regards to doing this.	00:21:53
	So that.	00:21:56
	The bids will be taken.	00:21:58
	The bids will be sent in to the commissioners. The commissioners will open those at a public meeting.	00:22:00
	The commissioners will then take.	00:22:06
	Those under advisement.	00:22:09
	In consultation with Envoy.	00:22:12
	Review all the bids.	00:22:15
	And then?	00:22:16
	And then come back and do the job and the business that.	00:22:19
	Commissioners do.	00:22:23
	In terms of.	00:22:24
	Improving beds have been following.	00:22:25
	OK. There are no questions from Rick on that, all the promotion.	00:22:27
	Improve that resolution among the conditioners. Yeah, I'll make the motion to approve Floyd County Resolution 2025-10 regarding	00:22:30
	bills for 120 W Spring Street upgrades, furniture and signage.	00:22:35
	Second, all in favor among the commissioners? Aye, aye.	00:22:40
	All right. Thank you. Great.	00:22:45
	The administrative building update, the judicial building update. I just want to circle back around to Matt's question about	00:22:48
	having all services.	00:22:51
	Under as few roofs as possible.	00:22:56
	So we have been looking at the county's real estate portfolio and.	00:22:58
	Like everything else, lots of moving parts, but the Chase building is allowing for a lot of the.	00:23:03
	Taxing units that don't have to be right there with the courts to expand over there we hope to have.	00:23:08
	Some of those.	00:23:15
	Offices open by the end of this year.	00:23:17
	Is the timeline more?	00:23:19
	We're looking to relocate.	00:23:24
	The services offered at the Pine View Center.	00:23:26
	Elsewhere, hopefully.	00:23:30
	By this time next year.	00:23:31
	And again.	00:23:33
	Speaking for the three of us.	00:23:35
	Incorrect. Let me know, but the hope would be that.	00:23:37
	This building is on the market.	00:23:40
	And or sold by this time next year. We're just looking for.	00:23:42
	Right now, the first step is where do we put?	00:23:45
	The folks that aren't here, Commissioner?	00:23:48
	Luke referenced earlier, we just found out yesterday there's about 6000 square feet of storage needs that we need to read.	00:23:50
	Locate as well, but we feel like that can be done.	00:23:56
	Much less expensively elsewhere than within this building.	00:23:58
	So I don't know if you.	00:24:02
	Want to discuss that any.	00:24:03
	Further, but some of those offices, some of the services will be going to.	00:24:05
	Perhaps Nova?	00:24:11
	Buildings out there and then we also have the health department building which we're closing on 1st we can.	00:24:12
	June and that second floor is going to house.	00:24:17
	Accounting engineer planning the development.	00:24:20
	Probably the coroner's office as well.	00:24:24
	So when you put all the services under as few roofs as possible, you're really talking about.	00:24:26
	The courthouse.	00:24:32
	Form that takes.	00:24:34
	The Chase Building.	00:24:36
	The Annex, if you will.	00:24:38
	The Health Department building.	00:24:39
	And the Nova Park are the largest resources we have.	00:24:41
	To part people.	00:24:44
	Right now so.	00:24:46
	Jason Frank, you have any thoughts on that or discussion?	00:24:47
	My first thought is that the City County building is going to be remaining the way it is for a few years.	00:24:51
	We might be able to expedite.	00:24:59
	Emptying this by moving whatever is left.	00:25:02
	Down there, which would be probably us being on the 3rd floor down there, yeah, or whoever move them down there to the empty	00:25:06
	floor.	00:25:10
	Which I say temporarily, it'd be a few years.	00:25:15
	But we should be able to do that.	00:25:18
	And get out of here quicker.	00:25:20
	Put this in the market.	00:25:22
	And yeah, move this type of thing down.	00:25:24
	CS down there?	00:25:28
	We could. We could start having our.	00:25:30
	Meetings. Monthly meetings.	00:25:32
	It's a little work, it's actually.	00:25:35
	Can't hear it here and it's worse down there.	00:25:37
	Yeah, yeah, we need, we need some work on. So we've kind of found.	00:25:42
	I mean, yeah.	00:25:47
	Floyd County Emergency Management.	00:25:49
	We need to go somewhere.	00:25:51
	We're trying to help the youth shelter find.	00:25:53
	And you know, and.	00:25:56
	They've been made aware of.	00:25:57
	The time alone.	00:25:59
	You might have noticed in that first hour conversation we really didn't talk about the West Banco building.	00:26:02
	That seems to have dropped off because it really did not allow for any expansion.	00:26:08
	But the time we would have moved into that building.	00:26:13
	With their requirements for retaining.	00:26:16
	Presence there we would have 0.	00:26:19
	Increased square footage.	00:26:22
	And the only way that would have worked is it would.	00:26:24
	Gotten the federal building and that is so up in the air right now.	00:26:26
	That, yeah, I don't think that.	00:26:30
	It's worthy of us slowing our process down in consideration of that plus it would be the acquisition of another old building. But	00:26:34
	it's an option for the future at some point possibly with a valued effort regardless because I think it was a, you know for us to	00:26:39
	to try and.	00:26:44
	Mitigate these costs as much as what we can by using some.	00:26:49
	Existing buildings, I think it was our responsibility.	00:26:52
	Go down there, yeah.	00:26:55
	Yeah.	00:26:57
	Just a mention.	00:26:58
	You know, we own the rights building, but.	00:27:02
	If you've been in that building, it definitely needs renovation.	00:27:05
	If we're going to keep it.	00:27:09
	And that might be right around down the road, but.	00:27:10
	They like that location.	00:27:14
	But it it's in need of repair.	00:27:17
	I'm sorry.	00:27:22
	Now, just a quick question, Mr. President, if you could just.	00:27:23
	You referenced the.	00:27:26
	Youth Shelter.	00:27:28
	And trying to help them find a.	00:27:30
	A new home.	00:27:33
	Is.	00:27:34
	That is that our responsibility or is it theirs or how does?	00:27:36
	I don't know.	00:27:41
	Our responsibility.	00:27:42
	But we have someone on the staff here who?	00:27:44
	Is willing to help them find that basically on on his own time.	00:27:49
	It's our responsibility, I think is.	00:27:54
	A landlord to let them know that.	00:27:56
	Ashley, this is coming down the Pike.	00:27:59
	And so on our Tuesday agenda, we're going to be giving formal notice with regards to that as part of the.	00:28:01
	The agreement that we have with them.	00:28:09
	I see they're a little different than the rest of our.	00:28:11
	County offices.	00:28:15
	So that's again I'm looking to the Attorney center, OK.	00:28:16
	OK. All right.	00:28:24
	Thank you.	00:28:26
	So there is one other piece of property that we haven't talked about and I brought this up last time.	00:28:27
	Grant Line Rd.	00:28:32
	Properly.	00:28:33
	What's the? What's the status of that?	00:28:35
	I don't think there's really been any change since our discussion last time.	00:28:38
	The new health department or the old?	00:28:42
	The outlet places have been boarded up. Yes, that one.	00:28:46
	I mean, honestly, I unless I have another option to look at, I really think we need to be looking at selling that and.	00:28:50
	Offsetting some of.	00:28:57
	The cost that we're looking at to do what we have to do here.	00:28:59
	At some point.	00:29:03
	So.	00:29:05
	Well, based on and, I don't disagree.	00:29:06
	Based on what Envoy quoted earlier.	00:29:09
	Her demolitions.	00:29:12
	That was pretty promising because I've always been told the half, $1,000,000 to take that down.	00:29:14
	But we should take that down a lot of cheap environmental issues.	00:29:20
	With that one.	00:29:25
	We should take that down a lot cheaper.	00:29:26
	Yeah. And again, at this moment in time.	00:29:28
	I'm still in disagreement, I think.	00:29:32
	For county purposes, but we don't junction with the public.	00:29:35
	We have to understand what the other options are then.	00:29:39
	If we're not gonna.	00:29:42
	Put it uh.	00:29:43
	On the market to offset some of these costs, then I think it's the public's.	00:29:44
	Then we owe the public an understanding of what the.	00:29:49
	Long term outlook is for that property, right? And as I said last time, the parks have had a steering committee together and I	00:29:52
	believe they have a presentation that they're going to be giving to the public.	00:29:57
	Either late this spring or summer, OK, with regards to not only that, but also long term plans for Bottling park, OK, OK.	00:30:02
	Again next Thursday because I'm out of town.	00:30:10
	Great. And I think they're going to finalize.	00:30:13
	Well, I will definitely make a phone call and get myself in the loop on.	00:30:16
	What that is, what's going on there?	00:30:20
	OK. Thank you.	00:30:23
	Curl without that.	00:30:25
	As the old saying is, we can't make anymore land.	00:30:27
	If we own the land.	00:30:31
	If we sell for a one time fix, it's gone forever.	00:30:33
	So. But there is a lot of public sentiment.	00:30:36
	Have that park space from.	00:30:40
	Grandma goes all the way through that. There's a lot of puppies in there.	00:30:41
	Right, in lieu of just getting rid of it one time.	00:30:45
	Sale, then it's gone.	00:30:48
	And this is what we're talking about. The other properties, the animal shelter, we're still where we were before. We're in the	00:30:53
	middle of getting appraisals of trying to.	00:30:56
	Settled the disposition of the building there and then that.	00:31:00
	Anything else to add on the Floyd Kennedy Health Department building other than the.	00:31:03
	Closing first week of June on that.	00:31:07
	Dealing update there would just be that.	00:31:11
	We expect the ban proceeds to come in the end of mid last week of May towards the end of that like the 29th, 30th is what our	00:31:14
	discussion was.	00:31:18
	With hopes to then turn around and close immediately that next week.	00:31:22
	So that's where we are right now.	00:31:26
	And that they are going to do remodeling and hope to be into that building by.	00:31:30
	They have to be out of their current building by fall of 26. I don't have that exact date, September of 26th. I think they would	00:31:36
	like to move sooner so I think the plan would be to start renovations as soon as.	00:31:42
	As soon as we can after ownership.	00:31:48
	But we're ahead of the.	00:31:50
	Yeah, we have plenty of time, I think for the.	00:31:53
	To get out of where they are.	00:31:54
	Get the renovation.	00:31:56
	So perfect.	00:31:57
	And just to hit the money aspect on that.	00:31:59
	My presentation to the.	00:32:03
	Floyd County Health Department Board was that the we have $800,000 that has been dedicated.	00:32:08
	For that renovation.	00:32:16
	In terms of our.	00:32:19
	Ban on buying the building. We're putting an additional 300,000.	00:32:21
	So that's 1.1 million that will be dedicated from.	00:32:25
	The county in terms of the renovation of that county building.	00:32:30
	Will be taking title to it.	00:32:34
	And.	00:32:36
	The health department also has some money that they're going to be throwing in for the renovations, too.	00:32:37
	So.	00:32:42
	That's the financials. So the 800,000 is the CARES Act money that's in the.	00:32:43
	Rainy day fun right now, Is that what we're talking about? Just making sure.	00:32:51
	It has not been.	00:32:56
	Completely appropriated.	00:32:57
	For that.	00:33:00
	If, unless you're right, but it's.	00:33:01
	It's been spoken of, it has been spoken of, but if I think it's if that is what they're working on, then we need to take a vote on	00:33:05
	that.	00:33:09
	Well, it's it wasn't proper for us to take a vote on that until this building closes.	00:33:14
	And then we will. OK, I, I completely understand. I'm just bringing the.	00:33:18
	I just wanted to make sure that we didn't dedicate the 800 somewhere else and that's compression. That's my concern as well.	00:33:23
	That we make sure.	00:33:30
	Since we'll be.	00:33:32
	Doing such a quick turn around on Bannon closing.	00:33:34
	Would you like us to add that?	00:33:37
	June agenda for council so we can go ahead as long as we know we're going to be closed by that meeting.	00:33:40
	Then I think, council meeting.	00:33:45
	First week of June, What's added in?	00:33:49
	It's appropriate to the CARES line, right? They're not specific or specific question.	00:33:55
	Another question is.	00:34:06
	Where do we want to appropriate it to to necessarily appropriation because it is appropriated to a CARES Act line and we spend out	00:34:08
	of that line, but a vote to utilize it. I think we want to be moving that into it.	00:34:15
	Well, I think we ought to appropriate it in the river.	00:34:21
	I'm sorry, in the rainy day fund.	00:34:25
	But to a line, health department line, I do. I don't think there should be anything.	00:34:28
	No, but give us that's fine, we can do that. So we can, we can have an advertisement to reappropriate and.	00:34:34
	Is it a Greenland Rd. Properly? Yeah, and the appropriate I guess to the cares I find.	00:34:43
	Rick, have we, has there been any conversations with?	00:34:47
	I have this void about.	00:34:52
	Any kind of.	00:34:56
	Rebate or anything?	00:34:58
	We vacate early.	00:35:01
	Not that I'm aware of.	00:35:03
	You don't pay anything to start with, but it was negotiated as part of the hospital sale.	00:35:04
	Right. So I feel like, but they they want the space tomorrow if they can get it.	00:35:08
	And I think by agreement we can occupy it until September 2026.	00:35:14
	And it's ours until we turn the keys over, right?	00:35:19
	And I'm sure we can find something to put there until September 20.	00:35:23
	Storage.	00:35:26
	So I want to remind.	00:35:29
	Their bodies during the sale of the hospital.	00:35:31
	They also gave 10 years of free.	00:35:35
	Inmate Medical Services, which expires.	00:35:39
	Next year.	00:35:44
	I don't know if the sheriff's tracking.	00:35:45
	What their annual costs are, but that's going to come.	00:35:49
	They they are. They they are. And we're working now.	00:35:53
	Sheriff's Department has.	00:35:57
	A company that is coming in to supply.	00:36:00
	Insurance.	00:36:03
	I'm assuming.	00:36:05
	Program, we know more about that, OK.	00:36:06
	Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Fox. Yeah, absolutely. We're tracking. Those costs have been escalating over the years, I'm sure you	00:36:08
	know for sure.	00:36:12
	I mean, we're breaching the 500,000, the $750,000 mark yesterday, the other day we had.	00:36:16
	There was a situation the costs were 35,000 for this one.	00:36:24
	Particular inmate that had to go to the hospital. So these types of things, ten of those in a year.	00:36:29
	It escalates the money rapidly.	00:36:34
	Most of you saw the contract that.	00:36:37
	Was presented with HP Freedom. It's.	00:36:40
	It's an area in Obamacare, ACA that allows for.	00:36:44
	Inmates to apply for medical coverage.	00:36:48
	With a.	00:36:54
	Out of.	00:36:55
	Deductible, no premium because of their obviously.	00:36:56
	Lack of income at that point.	00:37:00
	But an opportunity to get them some type of medical coverage.	00:37:02
	Work with Mr. Fox of the language of the contract. It actually in working Mr. Fox in his office, it exposed another opportunity	00:37:06
	through short partners.	00:37:10
	In my conversations with Assured partners, they also offer some form of.	00:37:15
	Resemblance to the plan that this company HP Freedom also offered.	00:37:20
	So we're exploring those trying to mitigate some of these call Sheriff. So great.	00:37:25
	Good job today.	00:37:29
	All right, Rick, while you're up there.	00:37:31
	Rather than having to watch you get out of that chair again, which I know you're nimble enough to be 100 times.	00:37:33
	60 seconds.	00:37:40
	But there's been some confusion about the sewage district that we.	00:37:41
	That the commissioners passed.	00:37:46
	I think some people are envisioning that we're going to be digging up and putting in a new.	00:37:48
	Treatment plants around the facility.	00:37:53
	Somewhere in the county and.	00:37:56
	It's my understanding right now there are.	00:37:59
	Basically three homes eligible for this, seven OK, less than 10 homes and they're on site.	00:38:01
	Residential on site treatment plants.	00:38:09
	But the word district has confused.	00:38:11
	Everybody. So I don't know if you want to.	00:38:14
	No, I might be loaded to. I appreciate that because probably everybody.	00:38:16
	Sometimes we don't need that.	00:38:23
	Maybe everybody has heard something about this and.	00:38:25
	In fact, there's a lot of misinformation out there with regards to this also.	00:38:30
	The district we're setting up is going to be called the Floyd County.	00:38:35
	Wastewater Management District.	00:38:38
	It's set up for what I.	00:38:42
	Called rescue systems.	00:38:44
	And that is?	00:38:47
	Whenever there's a failed septic system.	00:38:48
	Failed septic system needs to be replaced obviously.	00:38:54
	If the.	00:38:58
	Current failed septic system is on a piece of property that.	00:39:01
	The septic system can't be repaired.	00:39:07
	Or it can't be replaced with a conventional system.	00:39:09
	Then in that case.	00:39:13
	The potential rescue system comes into play.	00:39:16
	And so that's what we're talking about.	00:39:20
	It's my understanding from the Floyd County Health Department, we have maybe five to seven properties.	00:39:22
	That we're aware of now that we.	00:39:29
	Qualify for this type of a system.	00:39:31
	And so.	00:39:34
	Even though our district.	00:39:36
	Is quite large.	00:39:38
	We're talking about.	00:39:41
	A very minimal number of properties.	00:39:43
	That we're talking about that.	00:39:47
	Potentially could qualify for this system.	00:39:49
	So if the system will be.	00:39:52
	Managed and permitted by the Floyd County Health Department.	00:39:56
	And they will do an investigation with regard.	00:40:02
	The replacement system.	00:40:07
	And so.	00:40:09
	We have a hearing scheduled.	00:40:12
	Coming up.	00:40:14
	For the 22nd of this month and that's where we're going to be covering everything.	00:40:15
	Just in terms of some of the details of.	00:40:22
	Properties that.	00:40:24
	We're talking about these properties have to.	00:40:26
	Qualify statutorily.	00:40:29
	The luminous amount of rules that are out there with regards to.	00:40:34
	The affluent and where it goes and so on and so forth.	00:40:39
	There's also rules with regards to within.	00:40:43
	Within 300 feet.	00:40:46
	Of a sewer system.	00:40:50
	That, umm.	00:40:51
	You need to hook onto that system if you're able to reasonably hook onto that system.	00:40:53
	So that disqualifies.	00:41:00
	A lot of the county already because we do have sewer systems spread out throughout the county.	00:41:03
	New Albany is not part of the district, it's the unincorporated county.	00:41:12
	And the town of Georgetown, The town of Greenville.	00:41:16
	And so that's.	00:41:20
	The District.	00:41:22
	In terms of funding of this.	00:41:24
	This district, there's not going to be a comprehensive.	00:41:27
	District wide fee.	00:41:31
	Or tax charged with regards to that.	00:41:34
	In terms of administration, like I said, it's the Floyd County Health Department that is going to administer this.	00:41:37
	They already are.	00:41:43
	Are the public entity that issues septic permits, so this is what they do anyway.	00:41:45
	And so.	00:41:54
	This system not.	00:41:55
	I don't want to get too much into detail.	00:41:58
	Because.	00:42:00
	Hearing we have Anthony Lieber with the Floyd County Health Department.	00:42:02
	Which will go into all this detail.	00:42:06
	From an environmental and statutory standpoint.	00:42:09
	And uh.	00:42:12
	He's been through the.	00:42:13
	Training sessions and.	00:42:14
	All the other things that are required in order to be up to speed on on this. And so he's he's a lot more qualified than that.	00:42:17
	And I didn't speak about it.	00:42:24
	That's right.	00:42:26
	I just people here district and I think there's going to be a new building put up.	00:42:28
	New treatment plant put up and salaries going out and just, I think it's just been misconstrued.	00:42:33
	The district will be managed.	00:42:40
	Absorbed by the Floyd County Health Department in terms of issuing the permits.	00:42:43
	If the.	00:42:49
	Print those those things. That would be fantastic.	00:42:51
	The public.	00:42:57
	It would be appreciated by I'm sure everybody here and there's no salary being created.	00:42:58
	$130,000.	00:43:04
	Per year. No, there, there's nobody that.	00:43:06
	Going to be handling.	00:43:11
	In terms of employees, like I said.	00:43:15
	The program is being absorbed by the county.	00:43:18
	Rick, correct me if I'm wrong. I just, I like to use super layman terms so everybody can understand. So essentially what this	00:43:23
	district is, it's, it's an Ave. for people who have a failing system to be able to continue utilizing their property as a	00:43:27
	residential property.	00:43:32
	Essentially without.	00:43:38
	Having to vacate because they can't get.	00:43:40
	Underneath the guys, I guess, or or the standards of what a current system requires, correct. We have a, we have a few houses here	00:43:43
	in Floyd County that have a failed system and can.	00:43:48
	Get an occupancy permit because they don't have the sewer system.	00:43:54
	And so.	00:43:59
	This takes those individual people.	00:44:00
	Who will be paying permit fees? So if you talk about how.	00:44:03
	Isn't funded, it's it's through the needs of the people that need this system.	00:44:07
	Put in and managed in so Floyd County Health Department.	00:44:13
	Not a comprehend, comprehensive tax or fee.	00:44:17
	The only people that are going to be paying anything would be.	00:44:20
	The individuals that are going to use.	00:44:24
	This in order to get the rescue system.	00:44:26
	And these rescue systems are approved by the state.	00:44:29
	You know, and by the again, you're starting to get into Anthony's, OK.	00:44:32
	Yeah.	00:44:39
	This whole process was put in place by state statute, correct? We didn't just decide when they changed, right? When they changed	00:44:42
	it, what I think it was last year.	00:44:46
	Yeah. And I think that was the goal is to be able to let people continue to use their.	00:44:51
	People that.	00:44:58
	And enjoy the property.	00:45:02
	I'm already working on the book.	00:45:03
	The ordinance that will be on the agenda.	00:45:05
	June 17th.	00:45:09
	For the Commissioners.	00:45:10
	And.	00:45:12
	So the the one thing that we've kept in the loop here and we've added to the.	00:45:14
	The ordinance.	00:45:22
	And that is?	00:45:23
	If the Floyd County Health Department turns down a permit.	00:45:25
	Then that person who was rejected has a right to file an appeal with the commissioners and the commissioners will.	00:45:29
	And then a meeting and make a decision as to whether or not the permit should be issued so.	00:45:38
	In that decision this manner, so that's I baked that into the ordinance so.	00:45:43
	That somebody does have.	00:45:49
	Right.	00:45:51
	Hey, Rick, when is that public hearing for information?	00:45:54
	22nd, 22nd.	00:45:57
	Next week, yes, May 22nd in this room.	00:45:59
	OK, because I'm on municipal services, but for information purposes.	00:46:02
	Yes, 3:00.	00:46:07
	Thank you.	00:46:08
	Thank you. We had items six and seven regarding budget adjustments and issue I don't.	00:46:11
	That's whether the Council had any questions or.	00:46:15
	Maybe we discuss, I don't.	00:46:19
	I have no specific to that.	00:46:23
	All right.	00:46:29
	Any public comment from any government officials.	00:46:30
	Any public comment general?	00:46:35
	Any comments from the board before we close out?	00:46:38
	I did want to circle back to the judicial building. I know that.	00:46:41
	Envoy's getting a lot of these estimates, and it's encouraged us to try to.	00:46:46
	Move our decision quickly.	00:46:50
	Not been brought into discussion, I'm just curious if it's still.	00:46:53
	Our option or plan is to offer, not a referendum, to cover the funding for this.	00:46:57
	And the timeline of something like that.	00:47:03
	They've not rushed us along at all.	00:47:05
	I'm saying I want to talk about this.	00:47:09
	In June, so we had some direction for the community at this point.	00:47:11
	I've said publicly, I've been quoted publicly.	00:47:15
	Multiple times, if a referendum was called for them, we'll have a referendum.	00:47:19
	So.	00:47:22
	Envoy has not tried to.	00:47:24
	Change timeline. We've not tried to change line to do that. As a matter of fact, we've actually kind of.	00:47:26
	Taking into account the fact that our most recent discussion is that.	00:47:32
	We're probably going to have to.	00:47:35
	Slow things down with regards to the new center so that we can.	00:47:38
	Prepare for a referendum.	00:47:42
	Yeah, I don't know how those.	00:47:47
	Come out, Let's say that we're.	00:47:49
	Do the optimal.	00:47:51
	Build out for.	00:47:53
	Five story building.	00:47:54
	So we've got plenty of room for growth.	00:47:57
	Down the road then.	00:47:59
	Then that's going to go on a referendum. More than likely at this point in time, that's either going to be 27 or 28. And we're	00:48:01
	also going to have to engage with your municipal financial advisors because they're truly the ones they're going to tell us how.	00:48:06
	If we say we want to do a four story new building.	00:48:12
	What footprint we're looking at.	00:48:15
	They're the ones you're going to have to tell us how.	00:48:17
	The mechanisms that are available.	00:48:19
	Pay for such building.	00:48:21
	I mean, you saw that we have.	00:48:23
	Options that.	00:48:25
	You know, get down.	00:48:26
	To closer to $20 million, but we also have options to get us up to.	00:48:28
	Over 30.	00:48:34
	We have lots of options available to us.	00:48:36
	Where we land and.	00:48:39
	What your advisors tell you is your financial state will.	00:48:41
	Determine what we need to do.	00:48:45
	Could that be a referendum? Sure.	00:48:46
	I personally.	00:48:50
	I like the idea of a reference. I know we had one here.	00:48:52
	Community that didn't do so well.	00:48:54
	Couple weeks ago, but I'm going to butcher Lincoln here. But I think he said with public sentiment behind this, we cannot.	00:48:56
	Fail and would have public sentiment behind this week.	00:49:02
	Can never succeed. So yeah, we're going to get the community on.	00:49:05
	So the bigger question to me is.	00:49:10
	If you did a referendum and it failed.	00:49:14
	What do you do then?	00:49:17
	Because there's some serious issues there in that building.	00:49:18
	And so that that's the bigger question. I'm not saying not to do a referendum. It doesn't matter to me one way or the other.	00:49:23
	But we're still incumbent on the government.	00:49:30
	To maintain their property and.	00:49:34
	The reason that we are in this position that we are.	00:49:38
	That building was built when I was born.	00:49:42
	So that'll give you some idea how old it is.	00:49:44
	And it was not maintained.	00:49:47
	And the government says, oh, we don't want to spend any money, but.	00:49:50
	You know we're negligent.	00:49:54
	As a government by not maintaining our properties.	00:49:56
	And if we did that to our own houses, we would.	00:50:00
	Bean shake.	00:50:03
	We have to maintain somehow.	00:50:05
	Yeah. I don't dispute that in any way. But I just think the voters when we're talking about costs like this should have some type	00:50:07
	of input or say on this.	00:50:11
	I know it's great.	00:50:15
	I have a question.	00:50:19
	Are we still looking into the?	00:50:21
	Possibility of what statutory required for us to provide services in Floyd County?	00:50:23
	Thanks, I was gonna bring that up.	00:50:28
	Was you some of that tax free?	00:50:31
	'Cause you're assigned with that task the last meeting I think.	00:50:34
	The and I haven't looked to see what the legislature has done, but.	00:50:39
	The prior legislation was over $20 million.	00:50:44
	No, I was, I was asking the comment was we talked to Rick and Christy about trying to itemize that, but in fairness.	00:50:47
	They're busy.	00:50:55
	The dam has been the priority for the last. Well, I understand. Yeah, I think we're going to reach out.	00:50:56
	And ask them if there was. I do think though.	00:51:04
	Just like you said that we pretty much know it's if it's over 20 million, it's going to go to a referendum.	00:51:07
	So we might as well establish today it's going to a referendum if we're going to build or revolve, period.	00:51:12
	Right. And that's what I say. I don't know whether they're going to require during the year of the general election and if there	00:51:18
	is going to be a municipal election does have to be presidential because I've heard.	00:51:24
	Both times so again.	00:51:31
	We're going to have to probably end up hunkering down where we are and can it be in a primary election?	00:51:32
	It's usually during the primary, but it's during the.	00:51:38
	OK. So it's either going to be 27 or 28.	00:51:42
	Yes, no 26 or 28 things are being discussed, right?	00:51:48
	Wow. I mean, that's.	00:51:52
	That would be 26 or 28.	00:51:54
	27th We need an answer before.	00:51:56
	And what happens if you leave an answer?	00:51:59
	28 is a minute general election.	00:52:03
	There's gonna be a lot more coming down here in the next.	00:52:07
	Oh, that's that requirement took in July 1 this year.	00:52:09
	And so now at this point.	00:52:15
	And there was never any discussion of trying to.	00:52:20
	To beat the clock on that, you know, there was always OK, well, that's where it is. We're not.	00:52:23
	There yet the fairness you know, we didn't want to violate the spirit of that particular law either by trying to skirt under.	00:52:28
	Of June 30th, that sure? Sure.	00:52:34
	Oh no.	00:52:40
	They would just go back and make it retroactive anyway, so.	00:52:42
	And there was a possibility of doing a special election to your point, but.	00:52:45
	We don't know whether that.	00:52:50
	Lost countries and I don't know that we want to pay the cost of doing that either.	00:52:51
	That's a big cost.	00:52:56
	Not not to.	00:53:01
	Beat this dead horse.	00:53:03
	But I'll get one more whack in edit.	00:53:04
	If it does fail.	00:53:08
	We're in a situation where we're renovating floor by floor.	00:53:10
	And the cost will go from.	00:53:13
	18 or 22?	00:53:15
	26 to 30, anyway.	00:53:16
	The town frame and.	00:53:18
	Move out costs 4 by 4 or so we are.	00:53:20
	We're in a situation.	00:53:24
	We are. That's where we'll be.	00:53:27
	So sorry.	00:53:30
	And stand you.	00:53:32
	OK. All right. Any other closing comments?	00:53:35
	Not look for a motion to adjourn.	00:53:38
	Thank you everybody.	00:53:41

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	How's the?	00:00:01
	Floyd County.	00:00:03
	Council, if you'll please.	00:00:05
	Rise and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.	00:00:07
	I play the allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.	00:00:10
	And to the Republic for which it stands.	00:00:15
	Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.	00:00:17
	All right, kind of a busy agenda of any of these are placeholders.	00:00:24
	On the agenda or there?	00:00:27
	For new information so.	00:00:29
	Be very, very brief, someone we just.	00:00:31
	Went into kind of an hour deep dive on.	00:00:33
	But we'll revisit.	00:00:36
	All these items on the agenda you could probably.	00:00:39
	We put them out.	00:00:41
	Cup and scramble up and pull them up one at a time because.	00:00:43
	They're not listed with regards to any sort of agenda or importance.	00:00:46
	Where we have new information, we'll utilize it.	00:00:50
	Stan Heil is going to join us talk a little bit about the wheel tax. We do have a little bit of new information on.	00:00:54
	On that, it does appear that Indianapolis is going to mandate some sort of wheel tax being in place.	00:00:59
	If we as a county want to get our full match on the community.	00:01:06
	Crossing funds.	00:01:09
	Now, before we start that, I make a motion to approve the minutes from our last meeting. Thank you.	00:01:11
	Anybody opposed? We're all in favor.	00:01:18
	Great. All right. Thank you.	00:01:21
	Mr. Heil, thank you, Sir, and thank you for allowing me the opportunity to talk.	00:01:27
	The wheel tax obviously was addressed at the I attended the ASC conference with.	00:01:31
	David Byrne.	00:01:36
	His legislative representatives.	00:01:37
	They I sent a sketch presentation to you to actually kind of encompass.	00:01:40
	What was shared at that time?	00:01:45
	And as you saw it, there's a.	00:01:47
	A lot of movement.	00:01:51
	With regards to funding county operations and revenue sources.	00:01:53
	The reduction in property taxes or the.	00:01:58
	Property tax reform combined with.	00:02:01
	Support for.	00:02:04
	Local income tax reform.	00:02:06
	The wheel tax itself, it also came with a caveat of legislative action that's.	00:02:08
	Probably still rolling at the.	00:02:14
	As we are speaking today, I did reach out to the representative.	00:02:16
	To try to get some clarity, obviously he is.	00:02:19
	They're pretty tied up at the moment, but.	00:02:23
	I think we need to have a discussion regarding that wheel tax.	00:02:25
	Because of its impending impact to community, correct?	00:02:29
	Community Crossings grant funds.	00:02:32
	It's estimated that we and Floyd County potentially could receive up to well over $800,000 in community.	00:02:36
	Crossings grant support.	00:02:43
	Just by ensuring that we have the wheel tax in place.	00:02:45
	So.	00:02:51
	I think that's what.	00:02:52
	Commissioner Knable wanted on the agenda.	00:02:54
	Have these discussions that we know what we have in place to be able to move from.	00:02:57
	Does that require just a minimum? I know there's a range of the bill taxes.	00:03:02
	Just a minimum or is it the higher the tax the more you make it in return?	00:03:07
	With regards to the Community Crossings grant now, I believe this just.	00:03:11
	Long as it's in place.	00:03:15
	That's the funding potentially is going to be available for us at that.	00:03:17
	Roughly $800,000, but we're not sure whether or not it's going to be.	00:03:21
	Prorated or not because we.	00:03:24
	We haven't seen the final form of it yet. No, Sir, absolutely correct. Yes, Sir. So can you talk about the will tax a little bit?	00:03:27
	What is the minimum?	00:03:30
	You're not prepared for that.	00:03:36
	They haven't stated a quote UN quote minimum. I think the standard is reference $25 per vehicle be divided by wheels and we're	00:03:38
	also exploring.	00:03:42
	To make sure that we can give concessions to agricultural equipment if at all possible. We're aware of that and would like to do	00:03:46
	that.	00:03:50
	We don't know what latitude.	00:03:54
	Will or won't happen with regards to minimums versus maximums, whether they've been prorated or not. I just want to let you guys	00:03:56
	know what we know at this point in time.	00:04:00
	But.	00:04:04
	There's general agreement among us, unless I'm wrong, that.	00:04:05
	It would be very difficult for us to give up that $800,000 because that's a very large.	00:04:08
	Percentage of our.	00:04:12
	Or paving? Yeah, what? And that is used for paving. And I, you know, I think we should make that clear for the public to	00:04:14
	understand that 800,000 is for paving.	00:04:19
	So, umm.	00:04:24
	Is it the Council or the Commissioners who put that tax in place?	00:04:25
	About.	00:04:30
	Council by September.	00:04:34
	Thank you.	00:04:35
	I have a question.	00:04:36
	Look retain sales funds from the will tax the county to the state.	00:04:38
	The cabin, those funds are retained in the state, I mean in the county.	00:04:43
	Yes, Sir.	00:04:47
	And we need to understand how much that's going to generate.	00:04:49
	So that's another page.	00:04:53
	Question.	00:04:55
	And also there are probably you know.	00:04:59
	Restrictions on how that can be spent.	00:05:01
	Sure. Well, so.	00:05:03
	Yeah, lots to work with.	00:05:05
	Yeah.	00:05:08
	OK.	00:05:10
	So probably not much more to say about that. We'll keep you posted as we get information. But yeah, the deadline, we don't want to	00:05:11
	miss that deadline.	00:05:15
	Will be another year behind. We should probably just make sure we put that on the agenda for every.	00:05:22
	Count my opinion for every council meeting until we get an answer.	00:05:31
	To how we're gonna.	00:05:36
	Approach that because it's that important.	00:05:38
	Yes, absolutely. Because there's also that you got to back that up for advertising, all of the right, exactly. So it's not	00:05:40
	September, it's probably sometime in early August that we need to make a decision in order to get everything.	00:05:46
	In place and while the advertising in.	00:05:53
	Notify all the other.	00:05:56
	Entities, if that's what we've got to do, I mean, it's, it's not just, it's my assumption that early August is going to be a very	00:05:58
	busy time frame for the council, OK.	00:06:02
	So I'm wondering out loud.	00:06:08
	So if the county passes the wheel tax.	00:06:12
	Sorry if the county passes a wheel tax the city get.	00:06:16
	Percentage.	00:06:20
	But if you look at the local income tax reform, that's also been presented.	00:06:22
	David Butter from ASC also said.	00:06:29
	This has taken a completely different look than the.	00:06:32
	Way that we have.	00:06:35
	Always done business.	00:06:37
	So this is a brand new.	00:06:39
	Legislative reform, even when it comes to the bill tax.	00:06:41
	And the distribution of the collected funds so?	00:06:44
	I think we need to take a real deep dive here. Take a look at how they're going to distribute.	00:06:47
	What they're doing in.	00:06:51
	Local income tax reform is pushing a lot of the responsibilities back on there.	00:06:53
	County Council.	00:06:57
	As the county adopts taxes in the future.	00:06:58
	That money is strictly.	00:07:01
	County adopted anything with the city, they'll have to adopt their own.	00:07:03
	And all of this amplifies out to each of the taxing districts, so.	00:07:08
	In this reform, there is a.	00:07:12
	A wealth of.	00:07:14
	Of information and.	00:07:16
	Change that I think we all are going to need to take a real deep dive into.	00:07:17
	Get a great firm understanding, or at least a base understanding of.	00:07:22
	What it's going to look like.	00:07:26
	Impacts.	00:07:28
	To the county.	00:07:29
	Moving forward, especially with all of our revenue sources.	00:07:30
	Sounds to me right.	00:07:36
	Age is going to address as well in June is how this how the distributions are changing and allocations are changing and all of	00:07:37
	those things.	00:07:41
	And stand up and correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I have read, these adjustments are going to happen over the course of the	00:07:44
	next three.	00:07:48
	Years. I think there's even a local income tax that we currently have that will phase out completely by 2028.	00:07:51
	That, that, yes, ma'am, that's correct. There it's going to be. It's technically phasing in from 20.	00:07:57
	26 through 28.	00:08:03
	Which one of the local income taxes do we have that?	00:08:07
	Thank you. What's my understanding that?	00:08:14
	That other Lids are going to have to be reestablished after 2028 as well.	00:08:17
	So my question.	00:08:22
	For that is, is that if it?	00:08:23
	This is implemented before that time frame.	00:08:25
	Would have to be reimplemented afterwards.	00:08:28
	The legislative comments were was that quite?	00:08:31
	We asked that question.	00:08:34
	Is that each year any kind of local income taxes that are adopted by?	00:08:35
	The body has to be.	00:08:40
	Reconfirm every calendar year. So yes Sir.	00:08:41
	Thank you. Which which also brings up another point about bonding with LIT dollars.	00:08:44
	So and and we can only bond.	00:08:51
	25%.	00:08:53
	Of the lip dollars that we bring in is what I think I've read.	00:08:55
	So far I do think it's very important for all the council people to get.	00:08:59
	To some kind of.	00:09:05
	Understanding of.	00:09:07
	Of this and I know that we work with bacterial and pages putting together a presentation for you, but I also spoke independently	00:09:09
	to date about David Baddar.	00:09:13
	He offered and extended the opportunity if the Council so wishes or the Commissioners.	00:09:18
	To come down and meet with Floyd County to have an in-depth discussion regarding.	00:09:23
	His knowledge and his.	00:09:28
	Is understanding of a lot of this reform as well so.	00:09:30
	We can't pass up.	00:09:36
	Yeah, yeah. But.	00:09:37
	Can we just have him down for the next joint meeting that we have?	00:09:42
	How do you think?	00:09:47
	Whenever you think would be most appropriate.	00:09:50
	We could.	00:09:53
	Based on his calendar I would imagine.	00:09:55
	We'll reach out.	00:09:57
	Yeah, if you'd like to let me know or if you want to reach out to him directly or even one of his legislative aides.	00:09:59
	OK, we can change our date. Thank you.	00:10:08
	All right. Item 2 is the cumulative bridge tax increase. That's really a placeholder.	00:10:11
	We didn't complete any bridge restoration between.	00:10:16
	The last meeting today.	00:10:19
	So the need has not gone away. And again, that's a reallocation.	00:10:21
	Rather than the.	00:10:25
	An increase in just being coming on.	00:10:26
	The Council to.	00:10:29
	Try to have us an extra sliver of that that particular pie.	00:10:30
	And again, that's something that's going to look at formally.	00:10:34
	So it's it's just another.	00:10:40
	Piece of the puzzle that has to be put in place whenever we start.	00:10:43
	Looking at how we're going to allocate dollars in the budget, it's just another.	00:10:47
	Oh man.	00:10:52
	There's probably 100 pieces to this puzzle at this point, ever shifting.	00:10:53
	Bit creepy.	00:10:58
	Give us an update on.	00:11:00
	Blackstone Mill Bridge.	00:11:03
	You're welcome.	00:11:06
	This Bridge 51 blacksmith.	00:11:08
	Blackstone Mill Bridge.	00:11:10
	First, the replacement project.	00:11:12
	Our consultants have submitted their stage threes to for approval. That was.	00:11:16
	On timeline to get the September wedding.	00:11:21
	There's a lot of confusion out there, so I want to really. Yeah, I'm gonna.	00:11:26
	Try to go through football.	00:11:29
	Yeah. So that is the the new bridge project.	00:11:31
	I believe you all are aware that we had significant cost increases on that.	00:11:35
	Estimate uh.	00:11:40
	From roughly $5,000,000 construction cost to.	00:11:41
	$8 million construction cost, not including the inspection.	00:11:45
	Total construction and construction inspections probably closer to 9 million. At this point, we won't know the final.	00:11:50
	Total until it actually goes to bid.	00:11:56
	As a result of that.	00:12:00
	We have been engaged with.	00:12:02
	Crow and.	00:12:06
	Brad being on this group.	00:12:10
	To discuss.	00:12:12
	Ban option for financing that.	00:12:13
	We've also been in discussions.	00:12:17
	Kipta, the MPO.	00:12:19
	To see if we could increase federal funding.	00:12:21
	For that project.	00:12:25
	They have committed to increase that.	00:12:26
	Roughly 2 1/2.	00:12:30
	$1,000,000 in federal funding could be additionally available for it.	00:12:31
	So our local match.	00:12:36
	Could be between 2 1/2 and four and a half million.	00:12:39
	Dollars for this project and we really won't know.	00:12:42
	We're sure, and that's why we're looking at the ban option.	00:12:46
	For that.	00:12:50
	I think Christy and.	00:12:52
	And Tim and their their teams will have a schedule together for that.	00:12:54
	We will need to have.	00:12:58
	The funding available.	00:13:00
	Within 30 days of the letting.	00:13:01
	So we're trying to get ahead of that schedule for all.	00:13:03
	So again, that's.	00:13:07
	Fantastic news, potentially because.	00:13:08
	We've been working under the.	00:13:11
	Paradigm, but we needed to come up with a million.	00:13:14
	And then we jump from that.	00:13:16
	4 million, but now it looks like the fits.	00:13:18
	Might very well.	00:13:22
	Honor that, 8020.	00:13:23
	Match up to the.	00:13:25
	Total of 8 million Kip the Kipta region. Other communities in southern Indiana recognize this as a critical regional project.	00:13:26
	And so then.	00:13:35
	We have found ways to try to divert funding to this project ahead of other projects.	00:13:37
	Being a little modest because his ongoing negotiations with him have been interval.	00:13:42
	Closing that gap.	00:13:47
	Yeah.	00:13:48
	I don't know if there's any possibility of this, but I'm just gonna.	00:13:50
	Throw it out there. The ready monies that are out there, they're already all.	00:13:54
	Assign the ready money.	00:13:58
	You know, they're already all assigned. I mean, this to me is a regional project.	00:14:01
	Which I think the ready money could have been a perfect.	00:14:06
	Fit for something like this, but I think it's.	00:14:11
	It's too far gone.	00:14:14
	To get any of that.	00:14:16
	So.	00:14:18
	I don't think that's an option.	00:14:20
	Right. And that's, but that's a hindsight call because for the last three years we were.	00:14:22
	This is a $5 million project. Everything is covered. Everything is covered.	00:14:27
	So and those monies were already.	00:14:31
	Allocate this and.	00:14:34
	Irrevocably so, yeah.	00:14:35
	Yeah.	00:14:37
	The only other thing, if I could add that would just be our last discussion, the Endless, to try to approach this as a banned	00:14:40
	thought process.	00:14:43
	Go ahead and implementing the ordinance from the Council's perspective like we did the Grant Line Rd. project and up to.	00:14:46
	That 4.5 in the ordinance that way we have flexibility as we go to to market with the band then we can pull that back like we do	00:14:52
	with the Grant Line Rd. project for what the need actually will be.	00:14:57
	Just kind of a timing perspective, we've told.	00:15:03
	Grow. We want to have this.	00:15:06
	Out probably the end of August was what our discussion was so that we have the timing.	00:15:09
	And we're not. We want to make sure we have the money before.	00:15:15
	That 30 day deadline, we don't want to run into any, definitely don't want to slow the process down. So we are keeping them	00:15:19
	moving. I expect and hope that.	00:15:22
	Your June agenda for the council will have that ordinance ready to go as my hope again.	00:15:27
	With the thought process being an up to $4.5 million number.	00:15:33
	Where we can pull back on it or potentially utilize it for another bridge if the if.	00:15:36
	If we have that extra money, if the money if the.	00:15:42
	Bidding comes in less than a number and we decided to forward that whole number.	00:15:46
	So just to add to that so you all are aware.	00:15:50
	The other bridge that she mentioned.	00:15:53
	So we want to have some flexibility in the band.	00:15:55
	We have bridge 27 that is critical to replace.	00:15:58
	Within the next year or so.	00:16:02
	We were looking at.	00:16:05
	Obtaining some community crossings money for that.	00:16:07
	So we would be.	00:16:10
	On the look for about half of the cost if we could.	00:16:11
	Obtain the Community Crossings money.	00:16:14
	Right now estimates for that replacement.	00:16:16
	$2,000,000.	00:16:19
	So we just wanted to have.	00:16:20
	The flexibility.	00:16:22
	Potentially there.	00:16:24
	Nick, can you tell me where that's located?	00:16:25
	That's the George.	00:16:27
	Bridge numbers. Georgetown. Greenville.	00:16:29
	Bridge.	00:16:32
	Georgetown, Greenville Rd.	00:16:34
	Then another segue for you is that the last part of the new bridge construction project is a demolition of the old bridge.	00:16:37
	Yes, that is.	00:16:44
	Yes, that is included in the.	00:16:46
	The federally funded bridge replacement project.	00:16:48
	So that demolition is included.	00:16:51
	Project and will occur.	00:16:53
	End of the project, that's probably.	00:16:55
	Well, certainly.	00:16:59
	Have the existing bridge open.	00:17:01
	While the.	00:17:03
	New bridge is being replaced and that will segue into.	00:17:04
	The dam and bridge I gave you all.	00:17:08
	Brief update on the dam.	00:17:11
	Removal.	00:17:12
	The status of that is the same.	00:17:14
	Our consultant is obtaining the necessary permits.	00:17:16
	Expectation is that we will have those.	00:17:20
	By the end of May.	00:17:23
	And he believes that.	00:17:25
	They can take the dam out and reestablish the bank.	00:17:26
	A week, 510 day time periods so relatively quickly.	00:17:30
	We have engaged and requested quotes for the.	00:17:35
	Existing bridge repair.	00:17:39
	To get that.	00:17:41
	Operational, we will have to amend.	00:17:42
	Some of the permits that we are obtaining currently for the dam removal to include that bridge.	00:17:45
	Repair work.	00:17:51
	That should also be a relatively quick.	00:17:52
	Project once it is.	00:17:54
	Fully permanent. The bank reestablished.	00:17:57
	So your best guess, I'm not going to hold you to this because.	00:18:01
	There's too many variables.	00:18:05
	Just so I can tell the.	00:18:07
	40,000 people that keep asking me about the bridge being open.	00:18:09
	We're mid June.	00:18:13
	No, I would. I would say July is probably a good time.	00:18:15
	OK. Yeah, conservatively, I would say.	00:18:20
	Summer, but I think.	00:18:23
	If things roll correctly.	00:18:24
	Could be open in July.	00:18:27
	And I'm gonna get a little more.	00:18:28
	Granular is.	00:18:30
	Say because.	00:18:31
	We get a lot of questions about this, but.	00:18:33
	All of Floyd counties.	00:18:35
	Application for permits are done.	00:18:38
	Our work is done.	00:18:40
	Of the permitting process.	00:18:42
	What time we are waiting to hear back.	00:18:43
	From Indianapolis on that.	00:18:45
	Right, we have submitted what we need to have to.	00:18:47
	We will have to.	00:18:50
	Construction. Whoever we.	00:18:52
	Have to do the construction, We'll have to submit to the addendum.	00:18:55
	For whatever repair work that.	00:18:58
	It's necessary for the bridge.	00:19:01
	Necessarily submit until the bank is reestablished and just again. This is all part of the public record already, but.	00:19:04
	The dam removal cost is $200,000.	00:19:12
	150,000.	00:19:15
	Has been pledged with private donations.	00:19:17
	We're not going to get the name of the donors out yet because I don't know whether or not they want to be known publicly or not.	00:19:20
	We're covering 50,000 that from the county.	00:19:26
	So it's a pretty good.	00:19:29
	Coverage on on that end.	00:19:30
	We hope to have estimates on what the bridge will cost to repair the old bridge.	00:19:33
	Next week so we can hit the ground running then.	00:19:38
	We get approval on that.	00:19:40
	We have one other wrinkle in that as well, which is the.	00:19:42
	Property title.	00:19:45
	And uh.	00:19:47
	Again, we.	00:19:48
	Have possession of that property where the dam is but not.	00:19:49
	Title to it.	00:19:52
	We do now have the Floyd County title. That corridor was signed this week. I'm going to leave this meeting, go record that.	00:19:54
	So we do now have complete ownership of the fully county side.	00:20:01
	There was a hearing or is a hearing set for next week on the Clark County side about the one remaining partial that we're dealing	00:20:05
	with.	00:20:09
	And that was moved back court.	00:20:13
	Order yesterday from Thursday to Monday. So I'm hopeful Monday that we will have an order of ownership.	00:20:15
	On that parcel. So that's to be determined, but that's the last piece.	00:20:22
	So then we're doing everything that we can.	00:20:27
	We've done everything we can.	00:20:28
	On our end of it.	00:20:30
	Yes, that is correct. We're just waiting. The court in Clark County decide to set a hearing.	00:20:31
	That's his right to do that, so we will go to that hearing next week.	00:20:35
	And ask for that title to be transferred to us so nobody wants the old bridge open.	00:20:39
	More similar to people in this room.	00:20:46
	So it's been.	00:20:50
	A lot of work it's been.	00:20:52
	I think we're ready.	00:20:54
	To to really take off this thing.	00:20:56
	So anyway, yeah, I would hope.	00:20:58
	Hope sometime in July, but we'll see.	00:21:00
	Nick, thank you.	00:21:03
	All right, administrative building.	00:21:06
	Update We do have a formal matter that.	00:21:09
	Commissioner.	00:21:11
	Just convene and have a vote on this issue ourselves right now.	00:21:13
	You have to prepare the full County Resolution 2025-10 regarding bids for 120 W Spring Street.	00:21:17
	Upgrades furniture and signage.	00:21:24
	This is just.	00:21:26
	Empowering the.	00:21:31
	Envoy to go forward with the bid process.	00:21:33
	Bid acquisition process.	00:21:36
	Yes, this is the.	00:21:37
	Resolution.	00:21:39
	That you spoke of.	00:21:41
	In terms of obtaining the bids. And so the resolution is just very clear and that is that we're going to follow.	00:21:43
	Statutory guidelines.	00:21:51
	With regards to doing this.	00:21:53
	So that.	00:21:56
	The bids will be taken.	00:21:58
	The bids will be sent in to the commissioners. The commissioners will open those at a public meeting.	00:22:00
	The commissioners will then take.	00:22:06
	Those under advisement.	00:22:09
	In consultation with Envoy.	00:22:12
	Review all the bids.	00:22:15
	And then?	00:22:16
	And then come back and do the job and the business that.	00:22:19
	Commissioners do.	00:22:23
	In terms of.	00:22:24
	Improving beds have been following.	00:22:25
	OK. There are no questions from Rick on that, all the promotion.	00:22:27
	Improve that resolution among the conditioners. Yeah, I'll make the motion to approve Floyd County Resolution 2025-10 regarding	00:22:30
	bills for 120 W Spring Street upgrades, furniture and signage.	00:22:35
	Second, all in favor among the commissioners? Aye, aye.	00:22:40
	All right. Thank you. Great.	00:22:45
	The administrative building update, the judicial building update. I just want to circle back around to Matt's question about	00:22:48
	having all services.	00:22:51
	Under as few roofs as possible.	00:22:56
	So we have been looking at the county's real estate portfolio and.	00:22:58
	Like everything else, lots of moving parts, but the Chase building is allowing for a lot of the.	00:23:03
	Taxing units that don't have to be right there with the courts to expand over there we hope to have.	00:23:08
	Some of those.	00:23:15
	Offices open by the end of this year.	00:23:17
	Is the timeline more?	00:23:19
	We're looking to relocate.	00:23:24
	The services offered at the Pine View Center.	00:23:26
	Elsewhere, hopefully.	00:23:30
	By this time next year.	00:23:31
	And again.	00:23:33
	Speaking for the three of us.	00:23:35
	Incorrect. Let me know, but the hope would be that.	00:23:37
	This building is on the market.	00:23:40
	And or sold by this time next year. We're just looking for.	00:23:42
	Right now, the first step is where do we put?	00:23:45
	The folks that aren't here, Commissioner?	00:23:48
	Luke referenced earlier, we just found out yesterday there's about 6000 square feet of storage needs that we need to read.	00:23:50
	Locate as well, but we feel like that can be done.	00:23:56
	Much less expensively elsewhere than within this building.	00:23:58
	So I don't know if you.	00:24:02
	Want to discuss that any.	00:24:03
	Further, but some of those offices, some of the services will be going to.	00:24:05
	Perhaps Nova?	00:24:11
	Buildings out there and then we also have the health department building which we're closing on 1st we can.	00:24:12
	June and that second floor is going to house.	00:24:17
	Accounting engineer planning the development.	00:24:20
	Probably the coroner's office as well.	00:24:24
	So when you put all the services under as few roofs as possible, you're really talking about.	00:24:26
	The courthouse.	00:24:32
	Form that takes.	00:24:34
	The Chase Building.	00:24:36
	The Annex, if you will.	00:24:38
	The Health Department building.	00:24:39
	And the Nova Park are the largest resources we have.	00:24:41
	To part people.	00:24:44
	Right now so.	00:24:46
	Jason Frank, you have any thoughts on that or discussion?	00:24:47
	My first thought is that the City County building is going to be remaining the way it is for a few years.	00:24:51
	We might be able to expedite.	00:24:59
	Emptying this by moving whatever is left.	00:25:02
	Down there, which would be probably us being on the 3rd floor down there, yeah, or whoever move them down there to the empty	00:25:06
	floor.	00:25:10
	Which I say temporarily, it'd be a few years.	00:25:15
	But we should be able to do that.	00:25:18
	And get out of here quicker.	00:25:20
	Put this in the market.	00:25:22
	And yeah, move this type of thing down.	00:25:24
	CS down there?	00:25:28
	We could. We could start having our.	00:25:30
	Meetings. Monthly meetings.	00:25:32
	It's a little work, it's actually.	00:25:35
	Can't hear it here and it's worse down there.	00:25:37
	Yeah, yeah, we need, we need some work on. So we've kind of found.	00:25:42
	I mean, yeah.	00:25:47
	Floyd County Emergency Management.	00:25:49
	We need to go somewhere.	00:25:51
	We're trying to help the youth shelter find.	00:25:53
	And you know, and.	00:25:56
	They've been made aware of.	00:25:57
	The time alone.	00:25:59
	You might have noticed in that first hour conversation we really didn't talk about the West Banco building.	00:26:02
	That seems to have dropped off because it really did not allow for any expansion.	00:26:08
	But the time we would have moved into that building.	00:26:13
	With their requirements for retaining.	00:26:16
	Presence there we would have 0.	00:26:19
	Increased square footage.	00:26:22
	And the only way that would have worked is it would.	00:26:24
	Gotten the federal building and that is so up in the air right now.	00:26:26
	That, yeah, I don't think that.	00:26:30
	It's worthy of us slowing our process down in consideration of that plus it would be the acquisition of another old building. But	00:26:34
	it's an option for the future at some point possibly with a valued effort regardless because I think it was a, you know for us to	00:26:39
	to try and.	00:26:44
	Mitigate these costs as much as what we can by using some.	00:26:49
	Existing buildings, I think it was our responsibility.	00:26:52
	Go down there, yeah.	00:26:55
	Yeah.	00:26:57
	Just a mention.	00:26:58
	You know, we own the rights building, but.	00:27:02
	If you've been in that building, it definitely needs renovation.	00:27:05
	If we're going to keep it.	00:27:09
	And that might be right around down the road, but.	00:27:10
	They like that location.	00:27:14
	But it it's in need of repair.	00:27:17
	I'm sorry.	00:27:22
	Now, just a quick question, Mr. President, if you could just.	00:27:23
	You referenced the.	00:27:26
	Youth Shelter.	00:27:28
	And trying to help them find a.	00:27:30
	A new home.	00:27:33
	Is.	00:27:34
	That is that our responsibility or is it theirs or how does?	00:27:36
	I don't know.	00:27:41
	Our responsibility.	00:27:42
	But we have someone on the staff here who?	00:27:44
	Is willing to help them find that basically on on his own time.	00:27:49
	It's our responsibility, I think is.	00:27:54
	A landlord to let them know that.	00:27:56
	Ashley, this is coming down the Pike.	00:27:59
	And so on our Tuesday agenda, we're going to be giving formal notice with regards to that as part of the.	00:28:01
	The agreement that we have with them.	00:28:09
	I see they're a little different than the rest of our.	00:28:11
	County offices.	00:28:15
	So that's again I'm looking to the Attorney center, OK.	00:28:16
	OK. All right.	00:28:24
	Thank you.	00:28:26
	So there is one other piece of property that we haven't talked about and I brought this up last time.	00:28:27
	Grant Line Rd.	00:28:32
	Properly.	00:28:33
	What's the? What's the status of that?	00:28:35
	I don't think there's really been any change since our discussion last time.	00:28:38
	The new health department or the old?	00:28:42
	The outlet places have been boarded up. Yes, that one.	00:28:46
	I mean, honestly, I unless I have another option to look at, I really think we need to be looking at selling that and.	00:28:50
	Offsetting some of.	00:28:57
	The cost that we're looking at to do what we have to do here.	00:28:59
	At some point.	00:29:03
	So.	00:29:05
	Well, based on and, I don't disagree.	00:29:06
	Based on what Envoy quoted earlier.	00:29:09
	Her demolitions.	00:29:12
	That was pretty promising because I've always been told the half, $1,000,000 to take that down.	00:29:14
	But we should take that down a lot of cheap environmental issues.	00:29:20
	With that one.	00:29:25
	We should take that down a lot cheaper.	00:29:26
	Yeah. And again, at this moment in time.	00:29:28
	I'm still in disagreement, I think.	00:29:32
	For county purposes, but we don't junction with the public.	00:29:35
	We have to understand what the other options are then.	00:29:39
	If we're not gonna.	00:29:42
	Put it uh.	00:29:43
	On the market to offset some of these costs, then I think it's the public's.	00:29:44
	Then we owe the public an understanding of what the.	00:29:49
	Long term outlook is for that property, right? And as I said last time, the parks have had a steering committee together and I	00:29:52
	believe they have a presentation that they're going to be giving to the public.	00:29:57
	Either late this spring or summer, OK, with regards to not only that, but also long term plans for Bottling park, OK, OK.	00:30:02
	Again next Thursday because I'm out of town.	00:30:10
	Great. And I think they're going to finalize.	00:30:13
	Well, I will definitely make a phone call and get myself in the loop on.	00:30:16
	What that is, what's going on there?	00:30:20
	OK. Thank you.	00:30:23
	Curl without that.	00:30:25
	As the old saying is, we can't make anymore land.	00:30:27
	If we own the land.	00:30:31
	If we sell for a one time fix, it's gone forever.	00:30:33
	So. But there is a lot of public sentiment.	00:30:36
	Have that park space from.	00:30:40
	Grandma goes all the way through that. There's a lot of puppies in there.	00:30:41
	Right, in lieu of just getting rid of it one time.	00:30:45
	Sale, then it's gone.	00:30:48
	And this is what we're talking about. The other properties, the animal shelter, we're still where we were before. We're in the	00:30:53
	middle of getting appraisals of trying to.	00:30:56
	Settled the disposition of the building there and then that.	00:31:00
	Anything else to add on the Floyd Kennedy Health Department building other than the.	00:31:03
	Closing first week of June on that.	00:31:07
	Dealing update there would just be that.	00:31:11
	We expect the ban proceeds to come in the end of mid last week of May towards the end of that like the 29th, 30th is what our	00:31:14
	discussion was.	00:31:18
	With hopes to then turn around and close immediately that next week.	00:31:22
	So that's where we are right now.	00:31:26
	And that they are going to do remodeling and hope to be into that building by.	00:31:30
	They have to be out of their current building by fall of 26. I don't have that exact date, September of 26th. I think they would	00:31:36
	like to move sooner so I think the plan would be to start renovations as soon as.	00:31:42
	As soon as we can after ownership.	00:31:48
	But we're ahead of the.	00:31:50
	Yeah, we have plenty of time, I think for the.	00:31:53
	To get out of where they are.	00:31:54
	Get the renovation.	00:31:56
	So perfect.	00:31:57
	And just to hit the money aspect on that.	00:31:59
	My presentation to the.	00:32:03
	Floyd County Health Department Board was that the we have $800,000 that has been dedicated.	00:32:08
	For that renovation.	00:32:16
	In terms of our.	00:32:19
	Ban on buying the building. We're putting an additional 300,000.	00:32:21
	So that's 1.1 million that will be dedicated from.	00:32:25
	The county in terms of the renovation of that county building.	00:32:30
	Will be taking title to it.	00:32:34
	And.	00:32:36
	The health department also has some money that they're going to be throwing in for the renovations, too.	00:32:37
	So.	00:32:42
	That's the financials. So the 800,000 is the CARES Act money that's in the.	00:32:43
	Rainy day fun right now, Is that what we're talking about? Just making sure.	00:32:51
	It has not been.	00:32:56
	Completely appropriated.	00:32:57
	For that.	00:33:00
	If, unless you're right, but it's.	00:33:01
	It's been spoken of, it has been spoken of, but if I think it's if that is what they're working on, then we need to take a vote on	00:33:05
	that.	00:33:09
	Well, it's it wasn't proper for us to take a vote on that until this building closes.	00:33:14
	And then we will. OK, I, I completely understand. I'm just bringing the.	00:33:18
	I just wanted to make sure that we didn't dedicate the 800 somewhere else and that's compression. That's my concern as well.	00:33:23
	That we make sure.	00:33:30
	Since we'll be.	00:33:32
	Doing such a quick turn around on Bannon closing.	00:33:34
	Would you like us to add that?	00:33:37
	June agenda for council so we can go ahead as long as we know we're going to be closed by that meeting.	00:33:40
	Then I think, council meeting.	00:33:45
	First week of June, What's added in?	00:33:49
	It's appropriate to the CARES line, right? They're not specific or specific question.	00:33:55
	Another question is.	00:34:06
	Where do we want to appropriate it to to necessarily appropriation because it is appropriated to a CARES Act line and we spend out	00:34:08
	of that line, but a vote to utilize it. I think we want to be moving that into it.	00:34:15
	Well, I think we ought to appropriate it in the river.	00:34:21
	I'm sorry, in the rainy day fund.	00:34:25
	But to a line, health department line, I do. I don't think there should be anything.	00:34:28
	No, but give us that's fine, we can do that. So we can, we can have an advertisement to reappropriate and.	00:34:34
	Is it a Greenland Rd. Properly? Yeah, and the appropriate I guess to the cares I find.	00:34:43
	Rick, have we, has there been any conversations with?	00:34:47
	I have this void about.	00:34:52
	Any kind of.	00:34:56
	Rebate or anything?	00:34:58
	We vacate early.	00:35:01
	Not that I'm aware of.	00:35:03
	You don't pay anything to start with, but it was negotiated as part of the hospital sale.	00:35:04
	Right. So I feel like, but they they want the space tomorrow if they can get it.	00:35:08
	And I think by agreement we can occupy it until September 2026.	00:35:14
	And it's ours until we turn the keys over, right?	00:35:19
	And I'm sure we can find something to put there until September 20.	00:35:23
	Storage.	00:35:26
	So I want to remind.	00:35:29
	Their bodies during the sale of the hospital.	00:35:31
	They also gave 10 years of free.	00:35:35
	Inmate Medical Services, which expires.	00:35:39
	Next year.	00:35:44
	I don't know if the sheriff's tracking.	00:35:45
	What their annual costs are, but that's going to come.	00:35:49
	They they are. They they are. And we're working now.	00:35:53
	Sheriff's Department has.	00:35:57
	A company that is coming in to supply.	00:36:00
	Insurance.	00:36:03
	I'm assuming.	00:36:05
	Program, we know more about that, OK.	00:36:06
	Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Fox. Yeah, absolutely. We're tracking. Those costs have been escalating over the years, I'm sure you	00:36:08
	know for sure.	00:36:12
	I mean, we're breaching the 500,000, the $750,000 mark yesterday, the other day we had.	00:36:16
	There was a situation the costs were 35,000 for this one.	00:36:24
	Particular inmate that had to go to the hospital. So these types of things, ten of those in a year.	00:36:29
	It escalates the money rapidly.	00:36:34
	Most of you saw the contract that.	00:36:37
	Was presented with HP Freedom. It's.	00:36:40
	It's an area in Obamacare, ACA that allows for.	00:36:44
	Inmates to apply for medical coverage.	00:36:48
	With a.	00:36:54
	Out of.	00:36:55
	Deductible, no premium because of their obviously.	00:36:56
	Lack of income at that point.	00:37:00
	But an opportunity to get them some type of medical coverage.	00:37:02
	Work with Mr. Fox of the language of the contract. It actually in working Mr. Fox in his office, it exposed another opportunity	00:37:06
	through short partners.	00:37:10
	In my conversations with Assured partners, they also offer some form of.	00:37:15
	Resemblance to the plan that this company HP Freedom also offered.	00:37:20
	So we're exploring those trying to mitigate some of these call Sheriff. So great.	00:37:25
	Good job today.	00:37:29
	All right, Rick, while you're up there.	00:37:31
	Rather than having to watch you get out of that chair again, which I know you're nimble enough to be 100 times.	00:37:33
	60 seconds.	00:37:40
	But there's been some confusion about the sewage district that we.	00:37:41
	That the commissioners passed.	00:37:46
	I think some people are envisioning that we're going to be digging up and putting in a new.	00:37:48
	Treatment plants around the facility.	00:37:53
	Somewhere in the county and.	00:37:56
	It's my understanding right now there are.	00:37:59
	Basically three homes eligible for this, seven OK, less than 10 homes and they're on site.	00:38:01
	Residential on site treatment plants.	00:38:09
	But the word district has confused.	00:38:11
	Everybody. So I don't know if you want to.	00:38:14
	No, I might be loaded to. I appreciate that because probably everybody.	00:38:16
	Sometimes we don't need that.	00:38:23
	Maybe everybody has heard something about this and.	00:38:25
	In fact, there's a lot of misinformation out there with regards to this also.	00:38:30
	The district we're setting up is going to be called the Floyd County.	00:38:35
	Wastewater Management District.	00:38:38
	It's set up for what I.	00:38:42
	Called rescue systems.	00:38:44
	And that is?	00:38:47
	Whenever there's a failed septic system.	00:38:48
	Failed septic system needs to be replaced obviously.	00:38:54
	If the.	00:38:58
	Current failed septic system is on a piece of property that.	00:39:01
	The septic system can't be repaired.	00:39:07
	Or it can't be replaced with a conventional system.	00:39:09
	Then in that case.	00:39:13
	The potential rescue system comes into play.	00:39:16
	And so that's what we're talking about.	00:39:20
	It's my understanding from the Floyd County Health Department, we have maybe five to seven properties.	00:39:22
	That we're aware of now that we.	00:39:29
	Qualify for this type of a system.	00:39:31
	And so.	00:39:34
	Even though our district.	00:39:36
	Is quite large.	00:39:38
	We're talking about.	00:39:41
	A very minimal number of properties.	00:39:43
	That we're talking about that.	00:39:47
	Potentially could qualify for this system.	00:39:49
	So if the system will be.	00:39:52
	Managed and permitted by the Floyd County Health Department.	00:39:56
	And they will do an investigation with regard.	00:40:02
	The replacement system.	00:40:07
	And so.	00:40:09
	We have a hearing scheduled.	00:40:12
	Coming up.	00:40:14
	For the 22nd of this month and that's where we're going to be covering everything.	00:40:15
	Just in terms of some of the details of.	00:40:22
	Properties that.	00:40:24
	We're talking about these properties have to.	00:40:26
	Qualify statutorily.	00:40:29
	The luminous amount of rules that are out there with regards to.	00:40:34
	The affluent and where it goes and so on and so forth.	00:40:39
	There's also rules with regards to within.	00:40:43
	Within 300 feet.	00:40:46
	Of a sewer system.	00:40:50
	That, umm.	00:40:51
	You need to hook onto that system if you're able to reasonably hook onto that system.	00:40:53
	So that disqualifies.	00:41:00
	A lot of the county already because we do have sewer systems spread out throughout the county.	00:41:03
	New Albany is not part of the district, it's the unincorporated county.	00:41:12
	And the town of Georgetown, The town of Greenville.	00:41:16
	And so that's.	00:41:20
	The District.	00:41:22
	In terms of funding of this.	00:41:24
	This district, there's not going to be a comprehensive.	00:41:27
	District wide fee.	00:41:31
	Or tax charged with regards to that.	00:41:34
	In terms of administration, like I said, it's the Floyd County Health Department that is going to administer this.	00:41:37
	They already are.	00:41:43
	Are the public entity that issues septic permits, so this is what they do anyway.	00:41:45
	And so.	00:41:54
	This system not.	00:41:55
	I don't want to get too much into detail.	00:41:58
	Because.	00:42:00
	Hearing we have Anthony Lieber with the Floyd County Health Department.	00:42:02
	Which will go into all this detail.	00:42:06
	From an environmental and statutory standpoint.	00:42:09
	And uh.	00:42:12
	He's been through the.	00:42:13
	Training sessions and.	00:42:14
	All the other things that are required in order to be up to speed on on this. And so he's he's a lot more qualified than that.	00:42:17
	And I didn't speak about it.	00:42:24
	That's right.	00:42:26
	I just people here district and I think there's going to be a new building put up.	00:42:28
	New treatment plant put up and salaries going out and just, I think it's just been misconstrued.	00:42:33
	The district will be managed.	00:42:40
	Absorbed by the Floyd County Health Department in terms of issuing the permits.	00:42:43
	If the.	00:42:49
	Print those those things. That would be fantastic.	00:42:51
	The public.	00:42:57
	It would be appreciated by I'm sure everybody here and there's no salary being created.	00:42:58
	$130,000.	00:43:04
	Per year. No, there, there's nobody that.	00:43:06
	Going to be handling.	00:43:11
	In terms of employees, like I said.	00:43:15
	The program is being absorbed by the county.	00:43:18
	Rick, correct me if I'm wrong. I just, I like to use super layman terms so everybody can understand. So essentially what this	00:43:23
	district is, it's, it's an Ave. for people who have a failing system to be able to continue utilizing their property as a	00:43:27
	residential property.	00:43:32
	Essentially without.	00:43:38
	Having to vacate because they can't get.	00:43:40
	Underneath the guys, I guess, or or the standards of what a current system requires, correct. We have a, we have a few houses here	00:43:43
	in Floyd County that have a failed system and can.	00:43:48
	Get an occupancy permit because they don't have the sewer system.	00:43:54
	And so.	00:43:59
	This takes those individual people.	00:44:00
	Who will be paying permit fees? So if you talk about how.	00:44:03
	Isn't funded, it's it's through the needs of the people that need this system.	00:44:07
	Put in and managed in so Floyd County Health Department.	00:44:13
	Not a comprehend, comprehensive tax or fee.	00:44:17
	The only people that are going to be paying anything would be.	00:44:20
	The individuals that are going to use.	00:44:24
	This in order to get the rescue system.	00:44:26
	And these rescue systems are approved by the state.	00:44:29
	You know, and by the again, you're starting to get into Anthony's, OK.	00:44:32
	Yeah.	00:44:39
	This whole process was put in place by state statute, correct? We didn't just decide when they changed, right? When they changed	00:44:42
	it, what I think it was last year.	00:44:46
	Yeah. And I think that was the goal is to be able to let people continue to use their.	00:44:51
	People that.	00:44:58
	And enjoy the property.	00:45:02
	I'm already working on the book.	00:45:03
	The ordinance that will be on the agenda.	00:45:05
	June 17th.	00:45:09
	For the Commissioners.	00:45:10
	And.	00:45:12
	So the the one thing that we've kept in the loop here and we've added to the.	00:45:14
	The ordinance.	00:45:22
	And that is?	00:45:23
	If the Floyd County Health Department turns down a permit.	00:45:25
	Then that person who was rejected has a right to file an appeal with the commissioners and the commissioners will.	00:45:29
	And then a meeting and make a decision as to whether or not the permit should be issued so.	00:45:38
	In that decision this manner, so that's I baked that into the ordinance so.	00:45:43
	That somebody does have.	00:45:49
	Right.	00:45:51
	Hey, Rick, when is that public hearing for information?	00:45:54
	22nd, 22nd.	00:45:57
	Next week, yes, May 22nd in this room.	00:45:59
	OK, because I'm on municipal services, but for information purposes.	00:46:02
	Yes, 3:00.	00:46:07
	Thank you.	00:46:08
	Thank you. We had items six and seven regarding budget adjustments and issue I don't.	00:46:11
	That's whether the Council had any questions or.	00:46:15
	Maybe we discuss, I don't.	00:46:19
	I have no specific to that.	00:46:23
	All right.	00:46:29
	Any public comment from any government officials.	00:46:30
	Any public comment general?	00:46:35
	Any comments from the board before we close out?	00:46:38
	I did want to circle back to the judicial building. I know that.	00:46:41
	Envoy's getting a lot of these estimates, and it's encouraged us to try to.	00:46:46
	Move our decision quickly.	00:46:50
	Not been brought into discussion, I'm just curious if it's still.	00:46:53
	Our option or plan is to offer, not a referendum, to cover the funding for this.	00:46:57
	And the timeline of something like that.	00:47:03
	They've not rushed us along at all.	00:47:05
	I'm saying I want to talk about this.	00:47:09
	In June, so we had some direction for the community at this point.	00:47:11
	I've said publicly, I've been quoted publicly.	00:47:15
	Multiple times, if a referendum was called for them, we'll have a referendum.	00:47:19
	So.	00:47:22
	Envoy has not tried to.	00:47:24
	Change timeline. We've not tried to change line to do that. As a matter of fact, we've actually kind of.	00:47:26
	Taking into account the fact that our most recent discussion is that.	00:47:32
	We're probably going to have to.	00:47:35
	Slow things down with regards to the new center so that we can.	00:47:38
	Prepare for a referendum.	00:47:42
	Yeah, I don't know how those.	00:47:47
	Come out, Let's say that we're.	00:47:49
	Do the optimal.	00:47:51
	Build out for.	00:47:53
	Five story building.	00:47:54
	So we've got plenty of room for growth.	00:47:57
	Down the road then.	00:47:59
	Then that's going to go on a referendum. More than likely at this point in time, that's either going to be 27 or 28. And we're	00:48:01
	also going to have to engage with your municipal financial advisors because they're truly the ones they're going to tell us how.	00:48:06
	If we say we want to do a four story new building.	00:48:12
	What footprint we're looking at.	00:48:15
	They're the ones you're going to have to tell us how.	00:48:17
	The mechanisms that are available.	00:48:19
	Pay for such building.	00:48:21
	I mean, you saw that we have.	00:48:23
	Options that.	00:48:25
	You know, get down.	00:48:26
	To closer to $20 million, but we also have options to get us up to.	00:48:28
	Over 30.	00:48:34
	We have lots of options available to us.	00:48:36
	Where we land and.	00:48:39
	What your advisors tell you is your financial state will.	00:48:41
	Determine what we need to do.	00:48:45
	Could that be a referendum? Sure.	00:48:46
	I personally.	00:48:50
	I like the idea of a reference. I know we had one here.	00:48:52
	Community that didn't do so well.	00:48:54
	Couple weeks ago, but I'm going to butcher Lincoln here. But I think he said with public sentiment behind this, we cannot.	00:48:56
	Fail and would have public sentiment behind this week.	00:49:02
	Can never succeed. So yeah, we're going to get the community on.	00:49:05
	So the bigger question to me is.	00:49:10
	If you did a referendum and it failed.	00:49:14
	What do you do then?	00:49:17
	Because there's some serious issues there in that building.	00:49:18
	And so that that's the bigger question. I'm not saying not to do a referendum. It doesn't matter to me one way or the other.	00:49:23
	But we're still incumbent on the government.	00:49:30
	To maintain their property and.	00:49:34
	The reason that we are in this position that we are.	00:49:38
	That building was built when I was born.	00:49:42
	So that'll give you some idea how old it is.	00:49:44
	And it was not maintained.	00:49:47
	And the government says, oh, we don't want to spend any money, but.	00:49:50
	You know we're negligent.	00:49:54
	As a government by not maintaining our properties.	00:49:56
	And if we did that to our own houses, we would.	00:50:00
	Bean shake.	00:50:03
	We have to maintain somehow.	00:50:05
	Yeah. I don't dispute that in any way. But I just think the voters when we're talking about costs like this should have some type	00:50:07
	of input or say on this.	00:50:11
	I know it's great.	00:50:15
	I have a question.	00:50:19
	Are we still looking into the?	00:50:21
	Possibility of what statutory required for us to provide services in Floyd County?	00:50:23
	Thanks, I was gonna bring that up.	00:50:28
	Was you some of that tax free?	00:50:31
	'Cause you're assigned with that task the last meeting I think.	00:50:34
	The and I haven't looked to see what the legislature has done, but.	00:50:39
	The prior legislation was over $20 million.	00:50:44
	No, I was, I was asking the comment was we talked to Rick and Christy about trying to itemize that, but in fairness.	00:50:47
	They're busy.	00:50:55
	The dam has been the priority for the last. Well, I understand. Yeah, I think we're going to reach out.	00:50:56
	And ask them if there was. I do think though.	00:51:04
	Just like you said that we pretty much know it's if it's over 20 million, it's going to go to a referendum.	00:51:07
	So we might as well establish today it's going to a referendum if we're going to build or revolve, period.	00:51:12
	Right. And that's what I say. I don't know whether they're going to require during the year of the general election and if there	00:51:18
	is going to be a municipal election does have to be presidential because I've heard.	00:51:24
	Both times so again.	00:51:31
	We're going to have to probably end up hunkering down where we are and can it be in a primary election?	00:51:32
	It's usually during the primary, but it's during the.	00:51:38
	OK. So it's either going to be 27 or 28.	00:51:42
	Yes, no 26 or 28 things are being discussed, right?	00:51:48
	Wow. I mean, that's.	00:51:52
	That would be 26 or 28.	00:51:54
	27th We need an answer before.	00:51:56
	And what happens if you leave an answer?	00:51:59
	28 is a minute general election.	00:52:03
	There's gonna be a lot more coming down here in the next.	00:52:07
	Oh, that's that requirement took in July 1 this year.	00:52:09
	And so now at this point.	00:52:15
	And there was never any discussion of trying to.	00:52:20
	To beat the clock on that, you know, there was always OK, well, that's where it is. We're not.	00:52:23
	There yet the fairness you know, we didn't want to violate the spirit of that particular law either by trying to skirt under.	00:52:28
	Of June 30th, that sure? Sure.	00:52:34
	Oh no.	00:52:40
	They would just go back and make it retroactive anyway, so.	00:52:42
	And there was a possibility of doing a special election to your point, but.	00:52:45
	We don't know whether that.	00:52:50
	Lost countries and I don't know that we want to pay the cost of doing that either.	00:52:51
	That's a big cost.	00:52:56
	Not not to.	00:53:01
	Beat this dead horse.	00:53:03
	But I'll get one more whack in edit.	00:53:04
	If it does fail.	00:53:08
	We're in a situation where we're renovating floor by floor.	00:53:10
	And the cost will go from.	00:53:13
	18 or 22?	00:53:15
	26 to 30, anyway.	00:53:16
	The town frame and.	00:53:18
	Move out costs 4 by 4 or so we are.	00:53:20
	We're in a situation.	00:53:24
	We are. That's where we'll be.	00:53:27
	So sorry.	00:53:30
	And stand you.	00:53:32
	OK. All right. Any other closing comments?	00:53:35
	Not look for a motion to adjourn.	00:53:38
	Thank you everybody.	00:53:41