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There's a council for 2025. 00:00:03
If you'll please silence your cell phones and join us in the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:09
I pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:00:15
United States of America. 00:00:17
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:19
All right, for the uninitiated, this room is too hot in the winter and too cold in the summer, so. 00:00:28
Welcome. 00:00:35
Welcome new folks. 00:00:37
Frankly, or may not make it, I guess Sam's here and Matt's here, so welcome. 00:00:39
Welcome to the survivors. 00:00:43
Back in it for another year. 00:00:45
These meetings. 00:00:48
I think. 00:00:49
Purpose and utility, we kind of started out of necessity. 00:00:51
During the the heat of some things that were going on last spring with the. 00:00:55
EMS and a couple of other things, but I think they've been. 00:00:59
Really useful for facilitating communication between the Commissioners and the Council as well as. 00:01:02
Just within the bodies themselves. 00:01:10
Sometimes this will workout where. 00:01:13
The commissioners will have a vote on something during the meeting as our own body and. 00:01:15
Council could just kind of sit back and watch on that and vice versa so. 00:01:21
I don't believe we have any. 00:01:25
Votes on the agenda this morning, so. 00:01:27
But. 00:01:30
These work best where everybody kind of speaks their mind. There are definitely restrictions on how we can meet. 00:01:32
Privately, which is another reason we brought these together, you know. 00:01:38
We can't have. 00:01:42
Two commissioners together without forming a quorum. And so that sometimes is difficult. So these have been been helpful in that 00:01:44
matter. 00:01:47
We have an agenda, but it's not a strict agenda. 00:01:53
So sometimes we add things to it, sometimes we take things off of it, and at the end we like to have kind of a. 00:01:56
Go around the horn just for anybody who has any. 00:02:03
Thing that they would like to say. 00:02:06
Publicly and will often open it up for public comment as well. 00:02:08
So. 00:02:12
We'll start by seeking approval of the 11/15/2024 joint meeting minutes. 00:02:13
You don't technically have to have been present in order to vote up or down on those, but as long as you've reviewed them. But 00:02:20
I'll look for a motion to approve those so so moved. 00:02:24
2nd I have a motion and 2nd all in favor. 00:02:30
Aye. All right. I want to talk a little bit about the Health Department building update today. 00:02:33
Matt, Sam, do you know where the building? 00:02:40
The question is so. 00:02:42
We have signed a letter of intent to purchase with that that was signed before the end of the year and that moves forward into. 00:02:44
Formal discussion of how we're going to finance that. 00:02:51
I actually have a. 00:02:55
Letter I got from Crow yesterday that I didn't DocuSign yet because I knew that this meeting was here today but. 00:02:57
Basically would engage Crow to look at the bond anticipatory note or whatever other options that we might put forward to for 00:03:05
financing on that building. 00:03:09
And. 00:03:14
The cost for their services would be wrapped up in whatever financial vehicle we end up. 00:03:17
Signing off on SO. 00:03:22
There's no majority problem with signing that document. I'm going to go. 00:03:24
Forward with that anywhere it's a. 00:03:28
Primarily a commissioner's decision on that one, but. 00:03:30
Are you at liberty to discuss the price and. 00:03:33
Any renovation costs that might be associated with that? 00:03:37
Danny, you have a handle on both of those, or? 00:03:42
I can give you a ballpark he might have a more precise number on. 00:03:45
Yeah, absolutely. The price is. 00:03:50
2.2 million. 00:03:53
For the building. 00:03:54
The renovation cost. 00:03:56
Are 98% on the 1st floor. 00:03:59
2nd floor. 00:04:03
Seems ready to. 00:04:05
Put into use. 00:04:07
Would you? Would you agree? 00:04:08
The IT part of it needs to be done, the security part. 00:04:14
Setting it up, I think you initially looked maybe a little bit of painting. 00:04:18
That's right. 00:04:22
But pretty much other than the IT part of it. 00:04:25
Yes, I think it's ready to do that, right. 00:04:28
So how much is the renovation cost? Renovation. We're probably ******* in the $300,000 range for the first floor for. 00:04:30
To build out. 00:04:38
Patient rooms. 00:04:39
Um, and convert some. 00:04:41
Space. 00:04:45
Would we have the opportunity to understand what the renovation costs are? 00:05:08
Because that needs to go into the bonding. 00:05:12
As well, I would assume right and they were going to be part of that in. 00:05:15
That exploration as well before. 00:05:18
Before we sign off. 00:05:21
I'm signing off on the ability for them to do that work. I don't think we're going to have a full. 00:05:22
Understanding of. 00:05:28
Renovation until after we close and get. 00:05:29
Some people in there to. 00:05:32
We're going to close and then. 00:05:35
Bond it. So we're not going to bond with the renovation cost in. 00:05:38
Bonding, Bonding. 00:05:43
The I'm trying to understand. 00:05:45
That's all. 00:05:47
Yeah, the hope would be upon anticipatory note and then? 00:05:48
Perhaps painting up before bonds are issued? 00:05:52
OK, I will say that after. 00:05:55
County Attorney Christy Fox spoke with. 00:05:58
Your representatives the other day, it's our understanding that you. 00:06:00
Have roughly $170,000 that you can put. 00:06:03
Towards that renovation now and perhaps another 70,000 per year for 2026 and 27. 00:06:05
As long as that comes through. 00:06:12
The state. 00:06:15
So. 00:06:16
You know, I think we can count on that 170,000. 00:06:18
Now it sounds like the other 140. 00:06:21
Is. 00:06:24
Promised with the provision that the state comes through on it. 00:06:25
Right, which we all see in the news this morning that Brian anticipates. 00:06:28
Cutting the. 00:06:34
Public Health. 00:06:36
Budget. 00:06:38
Significantly, it sounds like. 00:06:40
Is am I misstating that? 00:06:43
I didn't see it. 00:06:45
I seen in the newspaper this morning, I saw a 5% cut across all agencies. Yeah, their N numbers more. 00:06:46
Associated with. 00:06:53
Directly with public health, but if we have 170 that we can get. 00:06:54
Somehow. 00:06:58
Promise there's some sort of formal letter of intent from the board now that would help, because I can submit that into the folks 00:07:00
at Crow. 00:07:03
And then also. 00:07:06
The anticipated 70,000 per year provided that it's there. And I get that that's beyond your control as well to some degree, but at 00:07:08
least we. 00:07:11
At that point in time have have a measure. I mean, I would think that that would probably pay for at least. 00:07:15
1/3 to. 00:07:20
40% of what we're talking about, even if we get on the expensive. 00:07:21
And it would. 00:07:26
Be up to the council then to find the rest of the funding. 00:07:27
Yes, OK. 00:07:31
Is anybody? 00:07:33
I guess we're going to talk about that in the joint meeting. 00:07:35
I mean in the. 00:07:38
Counter Workshop. 00:07:40
Come in the end of the month. 00:07:41
Yeah and yeah. 00:07:43
That will be one of them. And again, this is one of those areas where. 00:07:45
So we're buying a building, but we don't really understand how we're going to finance it. 00:07:49
I need to, I need to understand this because this is one of the areas that I've talked about. 00:07:55
Extensively. 00:08:01
That moving forward into the future, we have projects that we have to pay for. 00:08:02
This is yet another one of those. 00:08:07
That if the Council has to. 00:08:09
Pay part of the renovation cost. 00:08:14
We're now able to do that. 00:08:16
Because we are now able to free up funds that. 00:08:18
Yes. 00:08:22
I understand that. 00:08:24
I understand that completely. We now have. 00:08:25
Some 4 1/2 to $5,000,000 worth of. 00:08:29
My niece who? 00:08:33
Figure out. 00:08:35
And again, I don't think that that is going to be available to directly finance this, but indirectly, yes, right. 00:08:36
Exactly, I would have to say that. 00:08:44
In my opinion. 00:08:48
That. 00:08:51
Those dollars to finance this could have been. 00:08:52
Taxed a different way. 00:08:58
To. 00:09:00
To give the county a $1.00 to $1.00. 00:09:03
Financing on this building instead of. 00:09:08
A taxpayer paying $2.00. 00:09:10
And financing this building. 00:09:13
$2.00 instead of $1.00. 00:09:16
Of every dollar that's coming in. 00:09:18
Because the county is getting. 00:09:20
I mean, the city is getting the other dollars. 00:09:23
I don't know. I mean, I'm just bringing that up and I know this is something we're going to, you know. 00:09:26
Work on. 00:09:31
Next. 00:09:33
At the at the workshop. 00:09:35
Again, we're we're not giving the city anything. 00:09:36
The citizens of the city are county citizens, so. 00:09:40
The taxpayers are and there would have been a different way to finance this. 00:09:45
For the taxpayer dollar than the way we did it. 00:09:49
That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying it's wrong or it's right, I'm just saying. 00:09:52
The taxpayers are paying $2.00 for every $1.00 they would have had to pay for this bill. That's that's not correct. 00:09:57
That is not correct. 00:10:03
Yes, it is. 00:10:03
I'll let you guys talk about that. Yes, we'll talk about it. I did have a quick question. Yes, that's OK. 00:10:04
Didn't we have one of our earlier conversations that you all think you have the additional funding in your budget to cover most of 00:10:10
this? 00:10:14
Funded cost for the purchase. I thought there was a discussion about that. 00:10:17
When you. 00:10:22
Funding from the HFI bus. 00:10:24
OK. 00:10:35
So let me talk about. 00:10:38
HMI only allows. 00:10:40
That's it and that's it. Legislation group. 00:10:45
Yeah. 00:10:47
So, so am I correct that the $70,000 that I was talking about is exactly what you're talking about? And so there they have $70,000 00:10:52
and what I understand? 00:10:59
Somewhere around that over. 00:11:07
Hey. 00:11:12
But the other is an estimate for the future. 00:11:13
Understand. 00:11:17
Right. So that that 300 to 400 was basically. 00:11:18
Based upon that. 00:11:21
Roughly 70. 00:11:23
No, I think we talked. 00:11:25
What we talked about one of the Council meetings I. 00:11:27
Was the COVID funds at one time that might have been subsiding? That's what you're thinking? 00:11:32
Maybe that's why I'm getting confused with there may be. 00:11:38
That are in the rainy day now. OK yeah, I'm not refreshing my memory I think. 00:11:43
800,000 I believe it's around 800. 00:11:47
It's right under 1.1 million, 1.1 million. 00:11:51
$1157.74. 00:11:55
OK, I think you're right. One, one point. 00:11:58
And that's another reason why. 00:12:02
We are. 00:12:03
Doing a band. 00:12:05
I believe we can. 00:12:08
Use the CARES Act money. 00:12:09
Along with. 00:12:12
The health Department's money for renovations and we can leave it on a ban and we can pay it off before. 00:12:13
Gets to a bond. 00:12:18
Or if not. 00:12:19
On significantly less bond, significantly less. 00:12:20
Maybe with another project? 00:12:23
OK. 00:12:25
Anything else on? 00:12:27
Item one item 2 is bridge 51 which I brought up as an update I think it was last Saturday on the days are kind of running together 00:12:28
but I gotta. 00:12:32
Social media alert that there have been some large potholes that opened up on that, so really within the hour we had. 00:12:35
Sheriff's Department in conjunction with High. 00:12:41
Our street department out there doing some patching took a couple hours to do that night and then they went back Monday. 00:12:44
Again, all the engineering reports state that the substructure is fine. The deck. 00:12:50
Needs a lot of love and will continue to need some love to kind of get us to. 00:12:55
The letting and building process for the replacement. 00:12:59
The reason I have this on there in addition to to commend. 00:13:03
Our officers as well as our Rd. crews with regards to a quick response is that. 00:13:06
Because there have been delays on the federal part of that, our fear is that. 00:13:12
The overall cost might be. 00:13:16
Significantly more when it comes to letting that project in September. 00:13:18
And we're on the hook for a 20% match. We have $1,000,000 set aside for that. 00:13:23
So last Thursday I met with. 00:13:28
Virtually with the Barnes Thornburg representatives. 00:13:32
And I'm going to be engaging them. 00:13:36
Not to borrow any money at this point in time, but for them to research our borrowing capacity so that when that project is let. 00:13:39
If we need an additional. 00:13:47
1/4 to 1/2 million dollars the paperwork. 00:13:50
Paperwork will be in place to. 00:13:53
Execute that. 00:13:55
That extended credit at that time because I don't want any delay on. 00:13:57
That bridge project to come from the commissioners body, so. 00:14:01
It's just kind of a heads up that we're going to be doing that. 00:14:05
Any cost on that will be rolled up into anything that's borrowed and if we end up not using that. 00:14:08
Then we'll have to pay them an hourly rate for that. 00:14:13
So any questions on Bridge 51? 00:14:17
Great. 00:14:21
Item 3. 00:14:22
This was placed on here before the news this week and last night about the city. 00:14:25
Perhaps I don't know how that vote went last night going forward with their own animal shelter. 00:14:30
It passed. It passed OK. 00:14:36
That's where my money would have. 00:14:37
Than that but. 00:14:39
You know, we've made multiple. 00:14:41
Context trying to get. 00:14:43
The city back to the table to have a new interlocal agreement struck. 00:14:45
We've had no success with that to date. 00:14:49
With the vote last night, if they. 00:14:52
That's going to go forward. Then the next step on our part is going to be to. 00:14:54
Again, if we can't get people to come to the table. 00:14:58
On an invitation and a handshake, then we'll have to engage them. 00:15:03
Through mediation or somehow to find out ownership of the building. 00:15:06
That's the animal shelter that exists right now. The county has. 00:15:10
Deed of property. 00:15:13
I think the fairest offer and the one that we've made. 00:15:16
Privately, but I don't mind extending it. 00:15:20
Publicly is that is that. 00:15:22
We were willing to just get 2 appraisals and. 00:15:24
Pay them half of the average of those for the building as it exists now and. 00:15:27
And let everybody move on from it. 00:15:31
In any event, I just want everybody to know that. 00:15:34
Our current contract runs through this year. 00:15:38
But as time goes on, we're going to have to decide whether or not we're going to extend that contract. 00:15:42
Through 2027 and beyond, or whether we want to take the steps to create our own shelter. 00:15:46
Or or. 00:15:52
Come to the table. 00:15:54
Possible that invitation is open and. 00:15:58
And exist now and has for some time. 00:16:01
My first thought on the contract extension is that. 00:16:04
I have gotten minimal. 00:16:08
Calls on. 00:16:09
How we're doing things now. 00:16:11
And and I'm talking less than 10 / a year and I'm saying that. 00:16:14
More than half of those were favorable. 00:16:18
So. 00:16:20
I think we should all be thinking about we really don't need to. We're not going to vote on it today, but if there's any further 00:16:22
discussion or input. 00:16:25
When we continue to outsource it or not. 00:16:29
What do we? 00:16:32
Pain for a year on that. He was like right at 100. 00:16:33
Just under, just over. I think it's a little over, I think, Diana. 00:16:37
Yeah. But I did have a conversation with Mr. Draper yesterday. Just checking in, see how operations are running out there. 00:16:41
He did tell me that he is interested in continuing. 00:16:49
His service for Floyd County. 00:16:53
And he? 00:16:54
He is interested in bringing his operations into Floyd County out of where its current location, so. 00:16:56
Yeah, we'll have to start making soon. 00:17:04
And somewhere in the near future. 00:17:05
But I would think even if we continue as a. 00:17:09
Outsourcing that. 00:17:12
That other than an inflationary bump. 00:17:13
Just so you can kind of have a kind of a price set in your mind on that. I mean, to me the ideal situation is still joining up 00:17:16
with the city to do something. 00:17:20
Second idea would be. 00:17:25
If our contractor can bring something to Floyd County. 00:17:28
How the current cost is 100%? 00:17:33
1300 dollars 176. 00:17:37
Per year? Per year? 00:17:40
OK. 00:17:44
Thank you. I was well off on that. 00:17:47
Sheriff, did you have any thoughts on the matter? I know that. 00:17:55
You all kind of dispatch. 00:17:57
Him through your all's office at times, correct? 00:17:59
Yeah. 00:18:10
You'll remember that previously served on board. 00:18:12
We have reviewed that. 00:18:18
Run volume up CD. 00:18:25
Pretty well I can get those numbers for you then before. 00:18:27
But as far as it responds. 00:18:31
Sheriff's Office couldn't get on the. 00:18:34
Calls. 00:18:36
Exceptional warriors were responsive. 00:18:38
Great things that previously the. 00:18:41
Good relationship on our. 00:18:48
Seems to me like the run volume monthly was. 00:18:50
About what? 00:18:53
The city had told us we were running annually. 00:18:54
50 or 60 or something like that. 00:18:58
Per month, whereas previous to that. 00:19:00
They had reported 50 or 60 in the previous year. 00:19:03
So. 00:19:07
I would like to say I'm on that. 00:19:08
And I appreciate and. 00:19:11
Respect all of the time efforts. 00:19:13
And passion that Mister Sharp has put into that board, getting that board up and running and his compassion towards the animals. 00:19:16
Good. Thank you all Good. 00:19:26
Did you ever set up a? 00:19:29
501. 00:19:32
C3. 00:19:34
I still have people who want to know how to donate to that. 00:19:42
With the end goal of. 00:19:45
Freestanding Floyd County shelter. 00:19:47
All right. Anything else on animal? 00:19:51
Control. 00:19:53
All right, EMS Fire F8. 00:19:55
Like to share, Jason? 00:19:58
Yeah, I spent some time with this topic yesterday, going through some numbers trying to get everyone an idea of what an annual. 00:20:00
Operating costs would look like still working on a few of those numbers right now. I want to make sure that I have everyone. 00:20:08
The accurate information they need to make a good decision going forward, but. 00:20:15
That's where we stand on the EMS as of right now. 00:20:20
OK. And there are? 00:20:23
Multiple public meetings for that. 00:20:27
Fire district, Yeah, So. 00:20:29
There is a proposed fire territory between. 00:20:31
Georgetown and New Albany Township fire departments. 00:20:36
Originally, umm, uh. 00:20:40
It involves Franklin Township as well, however. 00:20:41
A couple members of the Township Advisory Board has decided to step away. 00:20:46
At this time, from the territory and. 00:20:50
But uh. 00:20:53
Georgetown and New Albany Township. 00:20:53
Plan on continuing moving forward so. 00:20:56
There will be three public meetings. 00:20:58
All those dates. 00:21:01
Will be available on both Georgetown and New Albany townships. 00:21:03
Websites and also the presentation. 00:21:08
That was given by. 00:21:12
Mr. Moody, who is the? 00:21:14
Board president for Georgetown Township Fire District and Baker Tilly. 00:21:15
Are also available so. 00:21:19
If anybody's interested in seeing. 00:21:22
OK. Thank you. 00:21:24
OK. Anything else? 00:21:27
I do have question. 00:21:30
Alec, one time, you said. 00:21:31
That you were going to get all of the chiefs together in A room. 00:21:33
And with the commissioners and just try to hash this. 00:21:38
Pulsing out. 00:21:42
So that we can have some. 00:21:43
I don't want to say synergy, but. 00:21:46
We're all in agreement. 00:21:50
The fire chiefs and the. 00:21:52
And the commissioners I'm. 00:21:56
How we're going to move forward, I know we're never going to all agree, but at least we're all getting on the same page. Is that 00:21:58
happen? 00:22:01
At all where we can all chiefs together. 00:22:05
Task Force I will tell you that. 00:22:09
For several months, the Islander chief was really not. 00:22:11
Yeah, well, I mean, but we do. 00:22:16
That is settled down down there then. 00:22:20
Well, we do have a temporary. I think there's a temporary chief in place. 00:22:22
But they've all had. 00:22:26
Access an invitation to each of these meetings. No, I understand, but have we just sit down with the three of them in a room or 4? 00:22:29
Are there 433? 00:22:37
In a room with you guys and just hash this thing through about what the right way to move forward is. It just seems like. 00:22:39
There's a lot of. 00:22:47
People in a. 00:22:49
A lot of different rooms and we're not. 00:22:50
Talking with. 00:22:53
All that. Well, I'll let Jason speak. I think he's had a lot of the people in. Yeah. So what? 00:22:55
What are you speaking to and what are you trying to accomplish by with the people? I just think, I just think it's. 00:22:59
A good idea to get all the people that are. 00:23:05
Going to move forward. 00:23:09
In some fashion, in a room together. 00:23:10
To understand what the. 00:23:14
How we can move forward together? 00:23:16
As a county in this both the fire and the EMS. 00:23:19
Well, I don't know why we can't all get in a room together. 00:23:23
Well, they they do have one company Fire Chief meetings where they all get in the room. 00:23:26
And talk about things amongst their respective agencies. 00:23:31
I can tell you that in regard to EMS, there's. 00:23:36
One jurisdiction out of all of them that are interested in doing it and the rest are not. 00:23:39
Now they're having a hard enough time. 00:23:44
Paying the bills just as a district as it stands, which is one of the reasons they're looking at a territory. 00:23:45
And the territory meetings have been public. 00:23:51
I've had some questions on. 00:23:54
At this point, while Highlander is involved in the conversation of the territory and. 00:23:56
The answer is is they surpassed the. 00:24:01
Statutory of. 00:24:03
Debt limit. 00:24:05
To enter a territory. 00:24:06
That's why. 00:24:08
Because they have $2.3 billion worth of debt. 00:24:09
Quick answers, there's been plenty of opportunities for everybody to be there that has kind of supplanted. 00:24:18
In my mind that need to have. 00:24:23
But we could certainly get back to that. I think we looked at three chiefs and each of their attorneys coming into a room. But. 00:24:26
Yeah. What is the, what is the threshold for the territory? 00:24:32
You have to ask the. 00:24:36
Attorney I'm I'm not sure what that number is. 00:24:38
Threshold. 00:24:41
For the debt. 00:24:43
Because your your debt stays with your. 00:24:45
Your jurisdiction. 00:24:47
So I think the best opportunity could. 00:24:52
Going immediately forward is to getting to know these folks is. 00:24:55
To go to these three public meetings, there's also been a great deal of turmoil with. 00:24:59
Yeah, Township, you know, they have a relatively. 00:25:05
But. 00:25:12
Yeah. 00:25:14
Turnover, for a while we were, we were anticipating. 00:25:16
So right now, I think the people that are in there are. 00:25:19
We're doing a good job and showing up for meetings and. 00:25:22
Take a half a step back. Did you need us to sign on this? 00:25:29
Contract was after Tuesday. 00:25:31
The Animal Control. 00:25:35
Entities changed. 00:25:37
It's corporate name, so we just need to resign a contract with the same numbers, just under a different. 00:25:39
Name. 00:25:44
All right, Community Foundation appointments. 00:25:46
So how many spots do we have? 00:25:52
I think just one vacancy, right, but. 00:25:55
Board would like to have four to five names. 00:25:58
I guess within our compact with them, we're supposed to give them four or five names and then they are supposed to choose from 00:26:02
amongst them. 00:26:06
And. 00:26:10
Community Foundation does a lot. Primarily there are the stewards of the. 00:26:12
Remnants of the hospital watching out remnants of. 00:26:17
The growing proceeds from the hospital sales within that. 00:26:21
That was turned over to them, I think. 00:26:28
The last time we looked at that, they had. 00:26:30
70 + 1,000,000 right so. 00:26:33
It's a big. 00:26:35
Yeah, high 70s. 00:26:37
So yeah, either high 70s or low 80s. So I came with one name. 00:26:38
That I'd like to put forward. We really don't need to. 00:26:44
I think anybody can put anybody forward and then we can just get those names over to them and. 00:26:47
So so. 00:26:53
I'm gonna nominate Ed Rita. 00:26:54
Whose it has an extensive background in community service and banking and. 00:26:56
Ed Riddabouds, REU. 00:27:03
TEVUCH. 00:27:09
And then we put the names forward and then. 00:27:12
The Community Foundation. 00:27:16
Ask for any resumes. 00:27:18
Or background information are contacted as they would like. 00:27:20
So start with Sam. I don't know if. 00:27:23
Matt, Jason. 00:27:29
I've spoken with. 00:27:32
Probably 3 individuals that are very well qualified that do not wish to do it. 00:27:34
Which I've I've had the same. 00:27:40
But. 00:27:44
I've had the same thing I've done. I've reached out to two and one that I put forward last year 3. 00:27:45
And. 00:27:51
They've all declined so. 00:27:53
And, and my, I wasn't around when we, you know, transferred this money to Community Foundation and I'm not a fan of them picking 00:27:55
our board member. 00:27:59
So. 00:28:03
I know. 00:28:05
And he's very well qualified. I'm glad that he's. 00:28:07
Would would serve. 00:28:10
And if. 00:28:12
Nobody else has a name. 00:28:14
If you do, that's great. If you don't, I'm in favor of submitting one name and saying. 00:28:17
Pick one name from the one name. 00:28:21
Because. 00:28:23
Yeah, we're playing by rules that were established before we go right. 00:28:26
I believe if we have a board appointment, we should be able to make the board appointment. I'm not in favor of them picking. 00:28:29
One of three or four. So anyway, that's my two cents. Go ahead. 00:28:36
I did reach out to one person and that one person declined but did recommend someone else. 00:28:40
So I can give you the name and the name was Bill Kaiser. 00:28:46
So if. 00:28:50
I've not asked him or approached him SO. 00:28:51
OK, put Bill down as. 00:28:54
Someone would have to double check with. 00:28:57
Alone and also maybe talk with our attorney about seeing whether or not there's any way we can. 00:28:59
Renegotiate that. 00:29:04
That deal so we have a board member that we. 00:29:07
You know. 00:29:10
We give them one name, it's. 00:29:12
Yeah, it's disheartening that. 00:29:14
Were their biggest depositor and. 00:29:16
We can't pick our own board member, but anyway. 00:29:20
Jim, do you have anybody? 00:29:22
Yeah. OK. So it's and it did indicate a willingness to serve so. 00:29:24
We'll put those two forward from there. 00:29:30
And then we'll have a discussion with them to see. 00:29:33
It may not even be a written policy on their part, it may just be something that they've. 00:29:36
Done by custom and. 00:29:41
Yeah, we can go 12345 with the same name and. 00:29:44
See where we get with that? 00:29:47
OK. 00:29:50
I did have one other just. 00:29:53
Heads up we talked about. 00:29:54
Trying to. 00:29:58
Bring some of that money back to edit. 00:30:00
That back in 20/16/2017 had. 00:30:03
Gone from the commissioners added fund over to the general fund. 00:30:08
We can. You've got that. We're going to be discussing that. 00:30:14
On the 28th. 00:30:18
We thought a good place to start would be, you know, the utilities, telephone and some of those things that clearly have a. 00:30:21
County wide footprint and. 00:30:28
We're going to be redoing our capital plan. 00:30:30
Probably be finished in the first quarter and. 00:30:33
You know, we would like to to make some steps towards recouping some of that so we can bring that back and put it into. 00:30:38
Capital investments, Bridges. 00:30:43
We talked about Bridge 51. I could probably name five others that are in imminent need of. 00:30:46
Repair and attention that they've installed out for about a decade because. 00:30:51
Of that so. 00:30:56
You know, we're, we're kind of earmarking that in our mind for construction. 00:30:59
And maintenance product. 00:31:04
Any other comment? 00:31:07
No, I mean we can get together again and discuss. 00:31:10
And I'll let you know. 00:31:13
What what comes out of that meeting on the 28th for ideas there and you know it could be incrementally they know. 00:31:16
If we can get some of that there. 00:31:21
This fiscal year or some in 2020? 00:31:23
6 or 27, I think that's the best approach so we don't overstep. 00:31:26
What we're? 00:31:30
OK, what we've got coming up? 00:31:31
I have nothing else before me other than to say next joint meeting is Tuesday February 25th, 2025. Is that at 4:00 PM? 00:31:34
We we made 11014 to pick it. 00:31:43
Can you tell me that again? February 25th at 4:00 PM. 00:31:47
February 20. 00:31:52
All right. 00:31:56
Oh, there, do we have anybody from the public we'd like to. 00:31:57
All right. 00:32:04
Jim will started cheering if you have any. 00:32:05
Comments, questions, or? 00:32:07
No, no, not this morning. 00:32:09
Nothing. 00:32:11
No, I'm good. 00:32:13
I have anything. 00:32:16
I don't have anything good. 00:32:17
All right, Danny, I'm good. 00:32:19
All right, in addition to. 00:32:21
That bridge incident. 00:32:23
Where we had, I mean. 00:32:25
Phenomenal to have people pick up at 9:30 at night and then show up there, you know? 00:32:26
Within an hour but. 00:32:31
I also want to commend our street department on snow removal. 00:32:33
There were a couple of this. 00:32:37
Misinformation pieces in the. 00:32:41
Paper article that went out the assault is not $85 a pound. 00:32:43
$5 a ton. 00:32:46
That's a slight difference. 00:32:48
Yes, like error there and. 00:32:51
At present, we have plenty of salt on hand. 00:32:53
They talked about is using 5000 by in 2000, but they didn't stick that we. 00:32:56
We started with about 9000 tons on hand so. 00:33:00
So. 00:33:04
We hope we don't get anymore of that magnitude because they're expensive events, but. 00:33:05
We had. 00:33:09
For the better part of three days, 24/7 we had. 00:33:11
13 trucks. We had one that that was disabled. 00:33:15
Pretty quickly into that, had to be kind of rehabbed and cannibalized for parts, but we had. 00:33:18
Basically 12 up and running 24/7 and the crews did a phenomenal job and. 00:33:23
So I think. 00:33:30
Particularly relative to some. 00:33:31
Some other areas we go primarily. 00:33:33
Good marks on that, I know. 00:33:37
People on some of the side streets, it's difficult to get everybody all at once. 00:33:39
But. 00:33:43
That was hopefully a once in a decade type snow. 00:33:44
So I want to thank them. 00:33:48
And I have nothing else, so look for a motion to adjourn. 00:33:50
Second all in favor, aye. 00:33:53
By the way, when the green lights are on. 00:33:58
And they're hot. 00:34:01
They are hot. 00:34:03
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Event transcript
There's a council for 2025. 00:00:03
If you'll please silence your cell phones and join us in the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:09
I pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:00:15
United States of America. 00:00:17
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:19
All right, for the uninitiated, this room is too hot in the winter and too cold in the summer, so. 00:00:28
Welcome. 00:00:35
Welcome new folks. 00:00:37
Frankly, or may not make it, I guess Sam's here and Matt's here, so welcome. 00:00:39
Welcome to the survivors. 00:00:43
Back in it for another year. 00:00:45
These meetings. 00:00:48
I think. 00:00:49
Purpose and utility, we kind of started out of necessity. 00:00:51
During the the heat of some things that were going on last spring with the. 00:00:55
EMS and a couple of other things, but I think they've been. 00:00:59
Really useful for facilitating communication between the Commissioners and the Council as well as. 00:01:02
Just within the bodies themselves. 00:01:10
Sometimes this will workout where. 00:01:13
The commissioners will have a vote on something during the meeting as our own body and. 00:01:15
Council could just kind of sit back and watch on that and vice versa so. 00:01:21
I don't believe we have any. 00:01:25
Votes on the agenda this morning, so. 00:01:27
But. 00:01:30
These work best where everybody kind of speaks their mind. There are definitely restrictions on how we can meet. 00:01:32
Privately, which is another reason we brought these together, you know. 00:01:38
We can't have. 00:01:42
Two commissioners together without forming a quorum. And so that sometimes is difficult. So these have been been helpful in that 00:01:44
matter. 00:01:47
We have an agenda, but it's not a strict agenda. 00:01:53
So sometimes we add things to it, sometimes we take things off of it, and at the end we like to have kind of a. 00:01:56
Go around the horn just for anybody who has any. 00:02:03
Thing that they would like to say. 00:02:06
Publicly and will often open it up for public comment as well. 00:02:08
So. 00:02:12
We'll start by seeking approval of the 11/15/2024 joint meeting minutes. 00:02:13
You don't technically have to have been present in order to vote up or down on those, but as long as you've reviewed them. But 00:02:20
I'll look for a motion to approve those so so moved. 00:02:24
2nd I have a motion and 2nd all in favor. 00:02:30
Aye. All right. I want to talk a little bit about the Health Department building update today. 00:02:33
Matt, Sam, do you know where the building? 00:02:40
The question is so. 00:02:42
We have signed a letter of intent to purchase with that that was signed before the end of the year and that moves forward into. 00:02:44
Formal discussion of how we're going to finance that. 00:02:51
I actually have a. 00:02:55
Letter I got from Crow yesterday that I didn't DocuSign yet because I knew that this meeting was here today but. 00:02:57
Basically would engage Crow to look at the bond anticipatory note or whatever other options that we might put forward to for 00:03:05
financing on that building. 00:03:09
And. 00:03:14
The cost for their services would be wrapped up in whatever financial vehicle we end up. 00:03:17
Signing off on SO. 00:03:22
There's no majority problem with signing that document. I'm going to go. 00:03:24
Forward with that anywhere it's a. 00:03:28
Primarily a commissioner's decision on that one, but. 00:03:30
Are you at liberty to discuss the price and. 00:03:33
Any renovation costs that might be associated with that? 00:03:37
Danny, you have a handle on both of those, or? 00:03:42
I can give you a ballpark he might have a more precise number on. 00:03:45
Yeah, absolutely. The price is. 00:03:50
2.2 million. 00:03:53
For the building. 00:03:54
The renovation cost. 00:03:56
Are 98% on the 1st floor. 00:03:59
2nd floor. 00:04:03
Seems ready to. 00:04:05
Put into use. 00:04:07
Would you? Would you agree? 00:04:08
The IT part of it needs to be done, the security part. 00:04:14
Setting it up, I think you initially looked maybe a little bit of painting. 00:04:18
That's right. 00:04:22
But pretty much other than the IT part of it. 00:04:25
Yes, I think it's ready to do that, right. 00:04:28
So how much is the renovation cost? Renovation. We're probably ******* in the $300,000 range for the first floor for. 00:04:30
To build out. 00:04:38
Patient rooms. 00:04:39
Um, and convert some. 00:04:41
Space. 00:04:45
Would we have the opportunity to understand what the renovation costs are? 00:05:08
Because that needs to go into the bonding. 00:05:12
As well, I would assume right and they were going to be part of that in. 00:05:15
That exploration as well before. 00:05:18
Before we sign off. 00:05:21
I'm signing off on the ability for them to do that work. I don't think we're going to have a full. 00:05:22
Understanding of. 00:05:28
Renovation until after we close and get. 00:05:29
Some people in there to. 00:05:32
We're going to close and then. 00:05:35
Bond it. So we're not going to bond with the renovation cost in. 00:05:38
Bonding, Bonding. 00:05:43
The I'm trying to understand. 00:05:45
That's all. 00:05:47
Yeah, the hope would be upon anticipatory note and then? 00:05:48
Perhaps painting up before bonds are issued? 00:05:52
OK, I will say that after. 00:05:55
County Attorney Christy Fox spoke with. 00:05:58
Your representatives the other day, it's our understanding that you. 00:06:00
Have roughly $170,000 that you can put. 00:06:03
Towards that renovation now and perhaps another 70,000 per year for 2026 and 27. 00:06:05
As long as that comes through. 00:06:12
The state. 00:06:15
So. 00:06:16
You know, I think we can count on that 170,000. 00:06:18
Now it sounds like the other 140. 00:06:21
Is. 00:06:24
Promised with the provision that the state comes through on it. 00:06:25
Right, which we all see in the news this morning that Brian anticipates. 00:06:28
Cutting the. 00:06:34
Public Health. 00:06:36
Budget. 00:06:38
Significantly, it sounds like. 00:06:40
Is am I misstating that? 00:06:43
I didn't see it. 00:06:45
I seen in the newspaper this morning, I saw a 5% cut across all agencies. Yeah, their N numbers more. 00:06:46
Associated with. 00:06:53
Directly with public health, but if we have 170 that we can get. 00:06:54
Somehow. 00:06:58
Promise there's some sort of formal letter of intent from the board now that would help, because I can submit that into the folks 00:07:00
at Crow. 00:07:03
And then also. 00:07:06
The anticipated 70,000 per year provided that it's there. And I get that that's beyond your control as well to some degree, but at 00:07:08
least we. 00:07:11
At that point in time have have a measure. I mean, I would think that that would probably pay for at least. 00:07:15
1/3 to. 00:07:20
40% of what we're talking about, even if we get on the expensive. 00:07:21
And it would. 00:07:26
Be up to the council then to find the rest of the funding. 00:07:27
Yes, OK. 00:07:31
Is anybody? 00:07:33
I guess we're going to talk about that in the joint meeting. 00:07:35
I mean in the. 00:07:38
Counter Workshop. 00:07:40
Come in the end of the month. 00:07:41
Yeah and yeah. 00:07:43
That will be one of them. And again, this is one of those areas where. 00:07:45
So we're buying a building, but we don't really understand how we're going to finance it. 00:07:49
I need to, I need to understand this because this is one of the areas that I've talked about. 00:07:55
Extensively. 00:08:01
That moving forward into the future, we have projects that we have to pay for. 00:08:02
This is yet another one of those. 00:08:07
That if the Council has to. 00:08:09
Pay part of the renovation cost. 00:08:14
We're now able to do that. 00:08:16
Because we are now able to free up funds that. 00:08:18
Yes. 00:08:22
I understand that. 00:08:24
I understand that completely. We now have. 00:08:25
Some 4 1/2 to $5,000,000 worth of. 00:08:29
My niece who? 00:08:33
Figure out. 00:08:35
And again, I don't think that that is going to be available to directly finance this, but indirectly, yes, right. 00:08:36
Exactly, I would have to say that. 00:08:44
In my opinion. 00:08:48
That. 00:08:51
Those dollars to finance this could have been. 00:08:52
Taxed a different way. 00:08:58
To. 00:09:00
To give the county a $1.00 to $1.00. 00:09:03
Financing on this building instead of. 00:09:08
A taxpayer paying $2.00. 00:09:10
And financing this building. 00:09:13
$2.00 instead of $1.00. 00:09:16
Of every dollar that's coming in. 00:09:18
Because the county is getting. 00:09:20
I mean, the city is getting the other dollars. 00:09:23
I don't know. I mean, I'm just bringing that up and I know this is something we're going to, you know. 00:09:26
Work on. 00:09:31
Next. 00:09:33
At the at the workshop. 00:09:35
Again, we're we're not giving the city anything. 00:09:36
The citizens of the city are county citizens, so. 00:09:40
The taxpayers are and there would have been a different way to finance this. 00:09:45
For the taxpayer dollar than the way we did it. 00:09:49
That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying it's wrong or it's right, I'm just saying. 00:09:52
The taxpayers are paying $2.00 for every $1.00 they would have had to pay for this bill. That's that's not correct. 00:09:57
That is not correct. 00:10:03
Yes, it is. 00:10:03
I'll let you guys talk about that. Yes, we'll talk about it. I did have a quick question. Yes, that's OK. 00:10:04
Didn't we have one of our earlier conversations that you all think you have the additional funding in your budget to cover most of 00:10:10
this? 00:10:14
Funded cost for the purchase. I thought there was a discussion about that. 00:10:17
When you. 00:10:22
Funding from the HFI bus. 00:10:24
OK. 00:10:35
So let me talk about. 00:10:38
HMI only allows. 00:10:40
That's it and that's it. Legislation group. 00:10:45
Yeah. 00:10:47
So, so am I correct that the $70,000 that I was talking about is exactly what you're talking about? And so there they have $70,000 00:10:52
and what I understand? 00:10:59
Somewhere around that over. 00:11:07
Hey. 00:11:12
But the other is an estimate for the future. 00:11:13
Understand. 00:11:17
Right. So that that 300 to 400 was basically. 00:11:18
Based upon that. 00:11:21
Roughly 70. 00:11:23
No, I think we talked. 00:11:25
What we talked about one of the Council meetings I. 00:11:27
Was the COVID funds at one time that might have been subsiding? That's what you're thinking? 00:11:32
Maybe that's why I'm getting confused with there may be. 00:11:38
That are in the rainy day now. OK yeah, I'm not refreshing my memory I think. 00:11:43
800,000 I believe it's around 800. 00:11:47
It's right under 1.1 million, 1.1 million. 00:11:51
$1157.74. 00:11:55
OK, I think you're right. One, one point. 00:11:58
And that's another reason why. 00:12:02
We are. 00:12:03
Doing a band. 00:12:05
I believe we can. 00:12:08
Use the CARES Act money. 00:12:09
Along with. 00:12:12
The health Department's money for renovations and we can leave it on a ban and we can pay it off before. 00:12:13
Gets to a bond. 00:12:18
Or if not. 00:12:19
On significantly less bond, significantly less. 00:12:20
Maybe with another project? 00:12:23
OK. 00:12:25
Anything else on? 00:12:27
Item one item 2 is bridge 51 which I brought up as an update I think it was last Saturday on the days are kind of running together 00:12:28
but I gotta. 00:12:32
Social media alert that there have been some large potholes that opened up on that, so really within the hour we had. 00:12:35
Sheriff's Department in conjunction with High. 00:12:41
Our street department out there doing some patching took a couple hours to do that night and then they went back Monday. 00:12:44
Again, all the engineering reports state that the substructure is fine. The deck. 00:12:50
Needs a lot of love and will continue to need some love to kind of get us to. 00:12:55
The letting and building process for the replacement. 00:12:59
The reason I have this on there in addition to to commend. 00:13:03
Our officers as well as our Rd. crews with regards to a quick response is that. 00:13:06
Because there have been delays on the federal part of that, our fear is that. 00:13:12
The overall cost might be. 00:13:16
Significantly more when it comes to letting that project in September. 00:13:18
And we're on the hook for a 20% match. We have $1,000,000 set aside for that. 00:13:23
So last Thursday I met with. 00:13:28
Virtually with the Barnes Thornburg representatives. 00:13:32
And I'm going to be engaging them. 00:13:36
Not to borrow any money at this point in time, but for them to research our borrowing capacity so that when that project is let. 00:13:39
If we need an additional. 00:13:47
1/4 to 1/2 million dollars the paperwork. 00:13:50
Paperwork will be in place to. 00:13:53
Execute that. 00:13:55
That extended credit at that time because I don't want any delay on. 00:13:57
That bridge project to come from the commissioners body, so. 00:14:01
It's just kind of a heads up that we're going to be doing that. 00:14:05
Any cost on that will be rolled up into anything that's borrowed and if we end up not using that. 00:14:08
Then we'll have to pay them an hourly rate for that. 00:14:13
So any questions on Bridge 51? 00:14:17
Great. 00:14:21
Item 3. 00:14:22
This was placed on here before the news this week and last night about the city. 00:14:25
Perhaps I don't know how that vote went last night going forward with their own animal shelter. 00:14:30
It passed. It passed OK. 00:14:36
That's where my money would have. 00:14:37
Than that but. 00:14:39
You know, we've made multiple. 00:14:41
Context trying to get. 00:14:43
The city back to the table to have a new interlocal agreement struck. 00:14:45
We've had no success with that to date. 00:14:49
With the vote last night, if they. 00:14:52
That's going to go forward. Then the next step on our part is going to be to. 00:14:54
Again, if we can't get people to come to the table. 00:14:58
On an invitation and a handshake, then we'll have to engage them. 00:15:03
Through mediation or somehow to find out ownership of the building. 00:15:06
That's the animal shelter that exists right now. The county has. 00:15:10
Deed of property. 00:15:13
I think the fairest offer and the one that we've made. 00:15:16
Privately, but I don't mind extending it. 00:15:20
Publicly is that is that. 00:15:22
We were willing to just get 2 appraisals and. 00:15:24
Pay them half of the average of those for the building as it exists now and. 00:15:27
And let everybody move on from it. 00:15:31
In any event, I just want everybody to know that. 00:15:34
Our current contract runs through this year. 00:15:38
But as time goes on, we're going to have to decide whether or not we're going to extend that contract. 00:15:42
Through 2027 and beyond, or whether we want to take the steps to create our own shelter. 00:15:46
Or or. 00:15:52
Come to the table. 00:15:54
Possible that invitation is open and. 00:15:58
And exist now and has for some time. 00:16:01
My first thought on the contract extension is that. 00:16:04
I have gotten minimal. 00:16:08
Calls on. 00:16:09
How we're doing things now. 00:16:11
And and I'm talking less than 10 / a year and I'm saying that. 00:16:14
More than half of those were favorable. 00:16:18
So. 00:16:20
I think we should all be thinking about we really don't need to. We're not going to vote on it today, but if there's any further 00:16:22
discussion or input. 00:16:25
When we continue to outsource it or not. 00:16:29
What do we? 00:16:32
Pain for a year on that. He was like right at 100. 00:16:33
Just under, just over. I think it's a little over, I think, Diana. 00:16:37
Yeah. But I did have a conversation with Mr. Draper yesterday. Just checking in, see how operations are running out there. 00:16:41
He did tell me that he is interested in continuing. 00:16:49
His service for Floyd County. 00:16:53
And he? 00:16:54
He is interested in bringing his operations into Floyd County out of where its current location, so. 00:16:56
Yeah, we'll have to start making soon. 00:17:04
And somewhere in the near future. 00:17:05
But I would think even if we continue as a. 00:17:09
Outsourcing that. 00:17:12
That other than an inflationary bump. 00:17:13
Just so you can kind of have a kind of a price set in your mind on that. I mean, to me the ideal situation is still joining up 00:17:16
with the city to do something. 00:17:20
Second idea would be. 00:17:25
If our contractor can bring something to Floyd County. 00:17:28
How the current cost is 100%? 00:17:33
1300 dollars 176. 00:17:37
Per year? Per year? 00:17:40
OK. 00:17:44
Thank you. I was well off on that. 00:17:47
Sheriff, did you have any thoughts on the matter? I know that. 00:17:55
You all kind of dispatch. 00:17:57
Him through your all's office at times, correct? 00:17:59
Yeah. 00:18:10
You'll remember that previously served on board. 00:18:12
We have reviewed that. 00:18:18
Run volume up CD. 00:18:25
Pretty well I can get those numbers for you then before. 00:18:27
But as far as it responds. 00:18:31
Sheriff's Office couldn't get on the. 00:18:34
Calls. 00:18:36
Exceptional warriors were responsive. 00:18:38
Great things that previously the. 00:18:41
Good relationship on our. 00:18:48
Seems to me like the run volume monthly was. 00:18:50
About what? 00:18:53
The city had told us we were running annually. 00:18:54
50 or 60 or something like that. 00:18:58
Per month, whereas previous to that. 00:19:00
They had reported 50 or 60 in the previous year. 00:19:03
So. 00:19:07
I would like to say I'm on that. 00:19:08
And I appreciate and. 00:19:11
Respect all of the time efforts. 00:19:13
And passion that Mister Sharp has put into that board, getting that board up and running and his compassion towards the animals. 00:19:16
Good. Thank you all Good. 00:19:26
Did you ever set up a? 00:19:29
501. 00:19:32
C3. 00:19:34
I still have people who want to know how to donate to that. 00:19:42
With the end goal of. 00:19:45
Freestanding Floyd County shelter. 00:19:47
All right. Anything else on animal? 00:19:51
Control. 00:19:53
All right, EMS Fire F8. 00:19:55
Like to share, Jason? 00:19:58
Yeah, I spent some time with this topic yesterday, going through some numbers trying to get everyone an idea of what an annual. 00:20:00
Operating costs would look like still working on a few of those numbers right now. I want to make sure that I have everyone. 00:20:08
The accurate information they need to make a good decision going forward, but. 00:20:15
That's where we stand on the EMS as of right now. 00:20:20
OK. And there are? 00:20:23
Multiple public meetings for that. 00:20:27
Fire district, Yeah, So. 00:20:29
There is a proposed fire territory between. 00:20:31
Georgetown and New Albany Township fire departments. 00:20:36
Originally, umm, uh. 00:20:40
It involves Franklin Township as well, however. 00:20:41
A couple members of the Township Advisory Board has decided to step away. 00:20:46
At this time, from the territory and. 00:20:50
But uh. 00:20:53
Georgetown and New Albany Township. 00:20:53
Plan on continuing moving forward so. 00:20:56
There will be three public meetings. 00:20:58
All those dates. 00:21:01
Will be available on both Georgetown and New Albany townships. 00:21:03
Websites and also the presentation. 00:21:08
That was given by. 00:21:12
Mr. Moody, who is the? 00:21:14
Board president for Georgetown Township Fire District and Baker Tilly. 00:21:15
Are also available so. 00:21:19
If anybody's interested in seeing. 00:21:22
OK. Thank you. 00:21:24
OK. Anything else? 00:21:27
I do have question. 00:21:30
Alec, one time, you said. 00:21:31
That you were going to get all of the chiefs together in A room. 00:21:33
And with the commissioners and just try to hash this. 00:21:38
Pulsing out. 00:21:42
So that we can have some. 00:21:43
I don't want to say synergy, but. 00:21:46
We're all in agreement. 00:21:50
The fire chiefs and the. 00:21:52
And the commissioners I'm. 00:21:56
How we're going to move forward, I know we're never going to all agree, but at least we're all getting on the same page. Is that 00:21:58
happen? 00:22:01
At all where we can all chiefs together. 00:22:05
Task Force I will tell you that. 00:22:09
For several months, the Islander chief was really not. 00:22:11
Yeah, well, I mean, but we do. 00:22:16
That is settled down down there then. 00:22:20
Well, we do have a temporary. I think there's a temporary chief in place. 00:22:22
But they've all had. 00:22:26
Access an invitation to each of these meetings. No, I understand, but have we just sit down with the three of them in a room or 4? 00:22:29
Are there 433? 00:22:37
In a room with you guys and just hash this thing through about what the right way to move forward is. It just seems like. 00:22:39
There's a lot of. 00:22:47
People in a. 00:22:49
A lot of different rooms and we're not. 00:22:50
Talking with. 00:22:53
All that. Well, I'll let Jason speak. I think he's had a lot of the people in. Yeah. So what? 00:22:55
What are you speaking to and what are you trying to accomplish by with the people? I just think, I just think it's. 00:22:59
A good idea to get all the people that are. 00:23:05
Going to move forward. 00:23:09
In some fashion, in a room together. 00:23:10
To understand what the. 00:23:14
How we can move forward together? 00:23:16
As a county in this both the fire and the EMS. 00:23:19
Well, I don't know why we can't all get in a room together. 00:23:23
Well, they they do have one company Fire Chief meetings where they all get in the room. 00:23:26
And talk about things amongst their respective agencies. 00:23:31
I can tell you that in regard to EMS, there's. 00:23:36
One jurisdiction out of all of them that are interested in doing it and the rest are not. 00:23:39
Now they're having a hard enough time. 00:23:44
Paying the bills just as a district as it stands, which is one of the reasons they're looking at a territory. 00:23:45
And the territory meetings have been public. 00:23:51
I've had some questions on. 00:23:54
At this point, while Highlander is involved in the conversation of the territory and. 00:23:56
The answer is is they surpassed the. 00:24:01
Statutory of. 00:24:03
Debt limit. 00:24:05
To enter a territory. 00:24:06
That's why. 00:24:08
Because they have $2.3 billion worth of debt. 00:24:09
Quick answers, there's been plenty of opportunities for everybody to be there that has kind of supplanted. 00:24:18
In my mind that need to have. 00:24:23
But we could certainly get back to that. I think we looked at three chiefs and each of their attorneys coming into a room. But. 00:24:26
Yeah. What is the, what is the threshold for the territory? 00:24:32
You have to ask the. 00:24:36
Attorney I'm I'm not sure what that number is. 00:24:38
Threshold. 00:24:41
For the debt. 00:24:43
Because your your debt stays with your. 00:24:45
Your jurisdiction. 00:24:47
So I think the best opportunity could. 00:24:52
Going immediately forward is to getting to know these folks is. 00:24:55
To go to these three public meetings, there's also been a great deal of turmoil with. 00:24:59
Yeah, Township, you know, they have a relatively. 00:25:05
But. 00:25:12
Yeah. 00:25:14
Turnover, for a while we were, we were anticipating. 00:25:16
So right now, I think the people that are in there are. 00:25:19
We're doing a good job and showing up for meetings and. 00:25:22
Take a half a step back. Did you need us to sign on this? 00:25:29
Contract was after Tuesday. 00:25:31
The Animal Control. 00:25:35
Entities changed. 00:25:37
It's corporate name, so we just need to resign a contract with the same numbers, just under a different. 00:25:39
Name. 00:25:44
All right, Community Foundation appointments. 00:25:46
So how many spots do we have? 00:25:52
I think just one vacancy, right, but. 00:25:55
Board would like to have four to five names. 00:25:58
I guess within our compact with them, we're supposed to give them four or five names and then they are supposed to choose from 00:26:02
amongst them. 00:26:06
And. 00:26:10
Community Foundation does a lot. Primarily there are the stewards of the. 00:26:12
Remnants of the hospital watching out remnants of. 00:26:17
The growing proceeds from the hospital sales within that. 00:26:21
That was turned over to them, I think. 00:26:28
The last time we looked at that, they had. 00:26:30
70 + 1,000,000 right so. 00:26:33
It's a big. 00:26:35
Yeah, high 70s. 00:26:37
So yeah, either high 70s or low 80s. So I came with one name. 00:26:38
That I'd like to put forward. We really don't need to. 00:26:44
I think anybody can put anybody forward and then we can just get those names over to them and. 00:26:47
So so. 00:26:53
I'm gonna nominate Ed Rita. 00:26:54
Whose it has an extensive background in community service and banking and. 00:26:56
Ed Riddabouds, REU. 00:27:03
TEVUCH. 00:27:09
And then we put the names forward and then. 00:27:12
The Community Foundation. 00:27:16
Ask for any resumes. 00:27:18
Or background information are contacted as they would like. 00:27:20
So start with Sam. I don't know if. 00:27:23
Matt, Jason. 00:27:29
I've spoken with. 00:27:32
Probably 3 individuals that are very well qualified that do not wish to do it. 00:27:34
Which I've I've had the same. 00:27:40
But. 00:27:44
I've had the same thing I've done. I've reached out to two and one that I put forward last year 3. 00:27:45
And. 00:27:51
They've all declined so. 00:27:53
And, and my, I wasn't around when we, you know, transferred this money to Community Foundation and I'm not a fan of them picking 00:27:55
our board member. 00:27:59
So. 00:28:03
I know. 00:28:05
And he's very well qualified. I'm glad that he's. 00:28:07
Would would serve. 00:28:10
And if. 00:28:12
Nobody else has a name. 00:28:14
If you do, that's great. If you don't, I'm in favor of submitting one name and saying. 00:28:17
Pick one name from the one name. 00:28:21
Because. 00:28:23
Yeah, we're playing by rules that were established before we go right. 00:28:26
I believe if we have a board appointment, we should be able to make the board appointment. I'm not in favor of them picking. 00:28:29
One of three or four. So anyway, that's my two cents. Go ahead. 00:28:36
I did reach out to one person and that one person declined but did recommend someone else. 00:28:40
So I can give you the name and the name was Bill Kaiser. 00:28:46
So if. 00:28:50
I've not asked him or approached him SO. 00:28:51
OK, put Bill down as. 00:28:54
Someone would have to double check with. 00:28:57
Alone and also maybe talk with our attorney about seeing whether or not there's any way we can. 00:28:59
Renegotiate that. 00:29:04
That deal so we have a board member that we. 00:29:07
You know. 00:29:10
We give them one name, it's. 00:29:12
Yeah, it's disheartening that. 00:29:14
Were their biggest depositor and. 00:29:16
We can't pick our own board member, but anyway. 00:29:20
Jim, do you have anybody? 00:29:22
Yeah. OK. So it's and it did indicate a willingness to serve so. 00:29:24
We'll put those two forward from there. 00:29:30
And then we'll have a discussion with them to see. 00:29:33
It may not even be a written policy on their part, it may just be something that they've. 00:29:36
Done by custom and. 00:29:41
Yeah, we can go 12345 with the same name and. 00:29:44
See where we get with that? 00:29:47
OK. 00:29:50
I did have one other just. 00:29:53
Heads up we talked about. 00:29:54
Trying to. 00:29:58
Bring some of that money back to edit. 00:30:00
That back in 20/16/2017 had. 00:30:03
Gone from the commissioners added fund over to the general fund. 00:30:08
We can. You've got that. We're going to be discussing that. 00:30:14
On the 28th. 00:30:18
We thought a good place to start would be, you know, the utilities, telephone and some of those things that clearly have a. 00:30:21
County wide footprint and. 00:30:28
We're going to be redoing our capital plan. 00:30:30
Probably be finished in the first quarter and. 00:30:33
You know, we would like to to make some steps towards recouping some of that so we can bring that back and put it into. 00:30:38
Capital investments, Bridges. 00:30:43
We talked about Bridge 51. I could probably name five others that are in imminent need of. 00:30:46
Repair and attention that they've installed out for about a decade because. 00:30:51
Of that so. 00:30:56
You know, we're, we're kind of earmarking that in our mind for construction. 00:30:59
And maintenance product. 00:31:04
Any other comment? 00:31:07
No, I mean we can get together again and discuss. 00:31:10
And I'll let you know. 00:31:13
What what comes out of that meeting on the 28th for ideas there and you know it could be incrementally they know. 00:31:16
If we can get some of that there. 00:31:21
This fiscal year or some in 2020? 00:31:23
6 or 27, I think that's the best approach so we don't overstep. 00:31:26
What we're? 00:31:30
OK, what we've got coming up? 00:31:31
I have nothing else before me other than to say next joint meeting is Tuesday February 25th, 2025. Is that at 4:00 PM? 00:31:34
We we made 11014 to pick it. 00:31:43
Can you tell me that again? February 25th at 4:00 PM. 00:31:47
February 20. 00:31:52
All right. 00:31:56
Oh, there, do we have anybody from the public we'd like to. 00:31:57
All right. 00:32:04
Jim will started cheering if you have any. 00:32:05
Comments, questions, or? 00:32:07
No, no, not this morning. 00:32:09
Nothing. 00:32:11
No, I'm good. 00:32:13
I have anything. 00:32:16
I don't have anything good. 00:32:17
All right, Danny, I'm good. 00:32:19
All right, in addition to. 00:32:21
That bridge incident. 00:32:23
Where we had, I mean. 00:32:25
Phenomenal to have people pick up at 9:30 at night and then show up there, you know? 00:32:26
Within an hour but. 00:32:31
I also want to commend our street department on snow removal. 00:32:33
There were a couple of this. 00:32:37
Misinformation pieces in the. 00:32:41
Paper article that went out the assault is not $85 a pound. 00:32:43
$5 a ton. 00:32:46
That's a slight difference. 00:32:48
Yes, like error there and. 00:32:51
At present, we have plenty of salt on hand. 00:32:53
They talked about is using 5000 by in 2000, but they didn't stick that we. 00:32:56
We started with about 9000 tons on hand so. 00:33:00
So. 00:33:04
We hope we don't get anymore of that magnitude because they're expensive events, but. 00:33:05
We had. 00:33:09
For the better part of three days, 24/7 we had. 00:33:11
13 trucks. We had one that that was disabled. 00:33:15
Pretty quickly into that, had to be kind of rehabbed and cannibalized for parts, but we had. 00:33:18
Basically 12 up and running 24/7 and the crews did a phenomenal job and. 00:33:23
So I think. 00:33:30
Particularly relative to some. 00:33:31
Some other areas we go primarily. 00:33:33
Good marks on that, I know. 00:33:37
People on some of the side streets, it's difficult to get everybody all at once. 00:33:39
But. 00:33:43
That was hopefully a once in a decade type snow. 00:33:44
So I want to thank them. 00:33:48
And I have nothing else, so look for a motion to adjourn. 00:33:50
Second all in favor, aye. 00:33:53
By the way, when the green lights are on. 00:33:58
And they're hot. 00:34:01
They are hot. 00:34:03