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United States of America. | 00:00:17 | |
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All right, for the uninitiated, this room is too hot in the winter and too cold in the summer, so. | 00:00:28 | |
Welcome. | 00:00:35 | |
Welcome new folks. | 00:00:37 | |
Frankly, or may not make it, I guess Sam's here and Matt's here, so welcome. | 00:00:39 | |
Welcome to the survivors. | 00:00:43 | |
Back in it for another year. | 00:00:45 | |
These meetings. | 00:00:48 | |
I think. | 00:00:49 | |
Purpose and utility, we kind of started out of necessity. | 00:00:51 | |
During the the heat of some things that were going on last spring with the. | 00:00:55 | |
EMS and a couple of other things, but I think they've been. | 00:00:59 | |
Really useful for facilitating communication between the Commissioners and the Council as well as. | 00:01:02 | |
Just within the bodies themselves. | 00:01:10 | |
Sometimes this will workout where. | 00:01:13 | |
The commissioners will have a vote on something during the meeting as our own body and. | 00:01:15 | |
Council could just kind of sit back and watch on that and vice versa so. | 00:01:21 | |
I don't believe we have any. | 00:01:25 | |
Votes on the agenda this morning, so. | 00:01:27 | |
But. | 00:01:30 | |
These work best where everybody kind of speaks their mind. There are definitely restrictions on how we can meet. | 00:01:32 | |
Privately, which is another reason we brought these together, you know. | 00:01:38 | |
We can't have. | 00:01:42 | |
Two commissioners together without forming a quorum. And so that sometimes is difficult. So these have been been helpful in that | 00:01:44 | |
matter. | 00:01:47 | |
We have an agenda, but it's not a strict agenda. | 00:01:53 | |
So sometimes we add things to it, sometimes we take things off of it, and at the end we like to have kind of a. | 00:01:56 | |
Go around the horn just for anybody who has any. | 00:02:03 | |
Thing that they would like to say. | 00:02:06 | |
Publicly and will often open it up for public comment as well. | 00:02:08 | |
So. | 00:02:12 | |
We'll start by seeking approval of the 11/15/2024 joint meeting minutes. | 00:02:13 | |
You don't technically have to have been present in order to vote up or down on those, but as long as you've reviewed them. But | 00:02:20 | |
I'll look for a motion to approve those so so moved. | 00:02:24 | |
2nd I have a motion and 2nd all in favor. | 00:02:30 | |
Aye. All right. I want to talk a little bit about the Health Department building update today. | 00:02:33 | |
Matt, Sam, do you know where the building? | 00:02:40 | |
The question is so. | 00:02:42 | |
We have signed a letter of intent to purchase with that that was signed before the end of the year and that moves forward into. | 00:02:44 | |
Formal discussion of how we're going to finance that. | 00:02:51 | |
I actually have a. | 00:02:55 | |
Letter I got from Crow yesterday that I didn't DocuSign yet because I knew that this meeting was here today but. | 00:02:57 | |
Basically would engage Crow to look at the bond anticipatory note or whatever other options that we might put forward to for | 00:03:05 | |
financing on that building. | 00:03:09 | |
And. | 00:03:14 | |
The cost for their services would be wrapped up in whatever financial vehicle we end up. | 00:03:17 | |
Signing off on SO. | 00:03:22 | |
There's no majority problem with signing that document. I'm going to go. | 00:03:24 | |
Forward with that anywhere it's a. | 00:03:28 | |
Primarily a commissioner's decision on that one, but. | 00:03:30 | |
Are you at liberty to discuss the price and. | 00:03:33 | |
Any renovation costs that might be associated with that? | 00:03:37 | |
Danny, you have a handle on both of those, or? | 00:03:42 | |
I can give you a ballpark he might have a more precise number on. | 00:03:45 | |
Yeah, absolutely. The price is. | 00:03:50 | |
2.2 million. | 00:03:53 | |
For the building. | 00:03:54 | |
The renovation cost. | 00:03:56 | |
Are 98% on the 1st floor. | 00:03:59 | |
2nd floor. | 00:04:03 | |
Seems ready to. | 00:04:05 | |
Put into use. | 00:04:07 | |
Would you? Would you agree? | 00:04:08 | |
The IT part of it needs to be done, the security part. | 00:04:14 | |
Setting it up, I think you initially looked maybe a little bit of painting. | 00:04:18 | |
That's right. | 00:04:22 | |
But pretty much other than the IT part of it. | 00:04:25 | |
Yes, I think it's ready to do that, right. | 00:04:28 | |
So how much is the renovation cost? Renovation. We're probably ******* in the $300,000 range for the first floor for. | 00:04:30 | |
To build out. | 00:04:38 | |
Patient rooms. | 00:04:39 | |
Um, and convert some. | 00:04:41 | |
Space. | 00:04:45 | |
Would we have the opportunity to understand what the renovation costs are? | 00:05:08 | |
Because that needs to go into the bonding. | 00:05:12 | |
As well, I would assume right and they were going to be part of that in. | 00:05:15 | |
That exploration as well before. | 00:05:18 | |
Before we sign off. | 00:05:21 | |
I'm signing off on the ability for them to do that work. I don't think we're going to have a full. | 00:05:22 | |
Understanding of. | 00:05:28 | |
Renovation until after we close and get. | 00:05:29 | |
Some people in there to. | 00:05:32 | |
We're going to close and then. | 00:05:35 | |
Bond it. So we're not going to bond with the renovation cost in. | 00:05:38 | |
Bonding, Bonding. | 00:05:43 | |
The I'm trying to understand. | 00:05:45 | |
That's all. | 00:05:47 | |
Yeah, the hope would be upon anticipatory note and then? | 00:05:48 | |
Perhaps painting up before bonds are issued? | 00:05:52 | |
OK, I will say that after. | 00:05:55 | |
County Attorney Christy Fox spoke with. | 00:05:58 | |
Your representatives the other day, it's our understanding that you. | 00:06:00 | |
Have roughly $170,000 that you can put. | 00:06:03 | |
Towards that renovation now and perhaps another 70,000 per year for 2026 and 27. | 00:06:05 | |
As long as that comes through. | 00:06:12 | |
The state. | 00:06:15 | |
So. | 00:06:16 | |
You know, I think we can count on that 170,000. | 00:06:18 | |
Now it sounds like the other 140. | 00:06:21 | |
Is. | 00:06:24 | |
Promised with the provision that the state comes through on it. | 00:06:25 | |
Right, which we all see in the news this morning that Brian anticipates. | 00:06:28 | |
Cutting the. | 00:06:34 | |
Public Health. | 00:06:36 | |
Budget. | 00:06:38 | |
Significantly, it sounds like. | 00:06:40 | |
Is am I misstating that? | 00:06:43 | |
I didn't see it. | 00:06:45 | |
I seen in the newspaper this morning, I saw a 5% cut across all agencies. Yeah, their N numbers more. | 00:06:46 | |
Associated with. | 00:06:53 | |
Directly with public health, but if we have 170 that we can get. | 00:06:54 | |
Somehow. | 00:06:58 | |
Promise there's some sort of formal letter of intent from the board now that would help, because I can submit that into the folks | 00:07:00 | |
at Crow. | 00:07:03 | |
And then also. | 00:07:06 | |
The anticipated 70,000 per year provided that it's there. And I get that that's beyond your control as well to some degree, but at | 00:07:08 | |
least we. | 00:07:11 | |
At that point in time have have a measure. I mean, I would think that that would probably pay for at least. | 00:07:15 | |
1/3 to. | 00:07:20 | |
40% of what we're talking about, even if we get on the expensive. | 00:07:21 | |
And it would. | 00:07:26 | |
Be up to the council then to find the rest of the funding. | 00:07:27 | |
Yes, OK. | 00:07:31 | |
Is anybody? | 00:07:33 | |
I guess we're going to talk about that in the joint meeting. | 00:07:35 | |
I mean in the. | 00:07:38 | |
Counter Workshop. | 00:07:40 | |
Come in the end of the month. | 00:07:41 | |
Yeah and yeah. | 00:07:43 | |
That will be one of them. And again, this is one of those areas where. | 00:07:45 | |
So we're buying a building, but we don't really understand how we're going to finance it. | 00:07:49 | |
I need to, I need to understand this because this is one of the areas that I've talked about. | 00:07:55 | |
Extensively. | 00:08:01 | |
That moving forward into the future, we have projects that we have to pay for. | 00:08:02 | |
This is yet another one of those. | 00:08:07 | |
That if the Council has to. | 00:08:09 | |
Pay part of the renovation cost. | 00:08:14 | |
We're now able to do that. | 00:08:16 | |
Because we are now able to free up funds that. | 00:08:18 | |
Yes. | 00:08:22 | |
I understand that. | 00:08:24 | |
I understand that completely. We now have. | 00:08:25 | |
Some 4 1/2 to $5,000,000 worth of. | 00:08:29 | |
My niece who? | 00:08:33 | |
Figure out. | 00:08:35 | |
And again, I don't think that that is going to be available to directly finance this, but indirectly, yes, right. | 00:08:36 | |
Exactly, I would have to say that. | 00:08:44 | |
In my opinion. | 00:08:48 | |
That. | 00:08:51 | |
Those dollars to finance this could have been. | 00:08:52 | |
Taxed a different way. | 00:08:58 | |
To. | 00:09:00 | |
To give the county a $1.00 to $1.00. | 00:09:03 | |
Financing on this building instead of. | 00:09:08 | |
A taxpayer paying $2.00. | 00:09:10 | |
And financing this building. | 00:09:13 | |
$2.00 instead of $1.00. | 00:09:16 | |
Of every dollar that's coming in. | 00:09:18 | |
Because the county is getting. | 00:09:20 | |
I mean, the city is getting the other dollars. | 00:09:23 | |
I don't know. I mean, I'm just bringing that up and I know this is something we're going to, you know. | 00:09:26 | |
Work on. | 00:09:31 | |
Next. | 00:09:33 | |
At the at the workshop. | 00:09:35 | |
Again, we're we're not giving the city anything. | 00:09:36 | |
The citizens of the city are county citizens, so. | 00:09:40 | |
The taxpayers are and there would have been a different way to finance this. | 00:09:45 | |
For the taxpayer dollar than the way we did it. | 00:09:49 | |
That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying it's wrong or it's right, I'm just saying. | 00:09:52 | |
The taxpayers are paying $2.00 for every $1.00 they would have had to pay for this bill. That's that's not correct. | 00:09:57 | |
That is not correct. | 00:10:03 | |
Yes, it is. | 00:10:03 | |
I'll let you guys talk about that. Yes, we'll talk about it. I did have a quick question. Yes, that's OK. | 00:10:04 | |
Didn't we have one of our earlier conversations that you all think you have the additional funding in your budget to cover most of | 00:10:10 | |
this? | 00:10:14 | |
Funded cost for the purchase. I thought there was a discussion about that. | 00:10:17 | |
When you. | 00:10:22 | |
Funding from the HFI bus. | 00:10:24 | |
OK. | 00:10:35 | |
So let me talk about. | 00:10:38 | |
HMI only allows. | 00:10:40 | |
That's it and that's it. Legislation group. | 00:10:45 | |
Yeah. | 00:10:47 | |
So, so am I correct that the $70,000 that I was talking about is exactly what you're talking about? And so there they have $70,000 | 00:10:52 | |
and what I understand? | 00:10:59 | |
Somewhere around that over. | 00:11:07 | |
Hey. | 00:11:12 | |
But the other is an estimate for the future. | 00:11:13 | |
Understand. | 00:11:17 | |
Right. So that that 300 to 400 was basically. | 00:11:18 | |
Based upon that. | 00:11:21 | |
Roughly 70. | 00:11:23 | |
No, I think we talked. | 00:11:25 | |
What we talked about one of the Council meetings I. | 00:11:27 | |
Was the COVID funds at one time that might have been subsiding? That's what you're thinking? | 00:11:32 | |
Maybe that's why I'm getting confused with there may be. | 00:11:38 | |
That are in the rainy day now. OK yeah, I'm not refreshing my memory I think. | 00:11:43 | |
800,000 I believe it's around 800. | 00:11:47 | |
It's right under 1.1 million, 1.1 million. | 00:11:51 | |
$1157.74. | 00:11:55 | |
OK, I think you're right. One, one point. | 00:11:58 | |
And that's another reason why. | 00:12:02 | |
We are. | 00:12:03 | |
Doing a band. | 00:12:05 | |
I believe we can. | 00:12:08 | |
Use the CARES Act money. | 00:12:09 | |
Along with. | 00:12:12 | |
The health Department's money for renovations and we can leave it on a ban and we can pay it off before. | 00:12:13 | |
Gets to a bond. | 00:12:18 | |
Or if not. | 00:12:19 | |
On significantly less bond, significantly less. | 00:12:20 | |
Maybe with another project? | 00:12:23 | |
OK. | 00:12:25 | |
Anything else on? | 00:12:27 | |
Item one item 2 is bridge 51 which I brought up as an update I think it was last Saturday on the days are kind of running together | 00:12:28 | |
but I gotta. | 00:12:32 | |
Social media alert that there have been some large potholes that opened up on that, so really within the hour we had. | 00:12:35 | |
Sheriff's Department in conjunction with High. | 00:12:41 | |
Our street department out there doing some patching took a couple hours to do that night and then they went back Monday. | 00:12:44 | |
Again, all the engineering reports state that the substructure is fine. The deck. | 00:12:50 | |
Needs a lot of love and will continue to need some love to kind of get us to. | 00:12:55 | |
The letting and building process for the replacement. | 00:12:59 | |
The reason I have this on there in addition to to commend. | 00:13:03 | |
Our officers as well as our Rd. crews with regards to a quick response is that. | 00:13:06 | |
Because there have been delays on the federal part of that, our fear is that. | 00:13:12 | |
The overall cost might be. | 00:13:16 | |
Significantly more when it comes to letting that project in September. | 00:13:18 | |
And we're on the hook for a 20% match. We have $1,000,000 set aside for that. | 00:13:23 | |
So last Thursday I met with. | 00:13:28 | |
Virtually with the Barnes Thornburg representatives. | 00:13:32 | |
And I'm going to be engaging them. | 00:13:36 | |
Not to borrow any money at this point in time, but for them to research our borrowing capacity so that when that project is let. | 00:13:39 | |
If we need an additional. | 00:13:47 | |
1/4 to 1/2 million dollars the paperwork. | 00:13:50 | |
Paperwork will be in place to. | 00:13:53 | |
Execute that. | 00:13:55 | |
That extended credit at that time because I don't want any delay on. | 00:13:57 | |
That bridge project to come from the commissioners body, so. | 00:14:01 | |
It's just kind of a heads up that we're going to be doing that. | 00:14:05 | |
Any cost on that will be rolled up into anything that's borrowed and if we end up not using that. | 00:14:08 | |
Then we'll have to pay them an hourly rate for that. | 00:14:13 | |
So any questions on Bridge 51? | 00:14:17 | |
Great. | 00:14:21 | |
Item 3. | 00:14:22 | |
This was placed on here before the news this week and last night about the city. | 00:14:25 | |
Perhaps I don't know how that vote went last night going forward with their own animal shelter. | 00:14:30 | |
It passed. It passed OK. | 00:14:36 | |
That's where my money would have. | 00:14:37 | |
Than that but. | 00:14:39 | |
You know, we've made multiple. | 00:14:41 | |
Context trying to get. | 00:14:43 | |
The city back to the table to have a new interlocal agreement struck. | 00:14:45 | |
We've had no success with that to date. | 00:14:49 | |
With the vote last night, if they. | 00:14:52 | |
That's going to go forward. Then the next step on our part is going to be to. | 00:14:54 | |
Again, if we can't get people to come to the table. | 00:14:58 | |
On an invitation and a handshake, then we'll have to engage them. | 00:15:03 | |
Through mediation or somehow to find out ownership of the building. | 00:15:06 | |
That's the animal shelter that exists right now. The county has. | 00:15:10 | |
Deed of property. | 00:15:13 | |
I think the fairest offer and the one that we've made. | 00:15:16 | |
Privately, but I don't mind extending it. | 00:15:20 | |
Publicly is that is that. | 00:15:22 | |
We were willing to just get 2 appraisals and. | 00:15:24 | |
Pay them half of the average of those for the building as it exists now and. | 00:15:27 | |
And let everybody move on from it. | 00:15:31 | |
In any event, I just want everybody to know that. | 00:15:34 | |
Our current contract runs through this year. | 00:15:38 | |
But as time goes on, we're going to have to decide whether or not we're going to extend that contract. | 00:15:42 | |
Through 2027 and beyond, or whether we want to take the steps to create our own shelter. | 00:15:46 | |
Or or. | 00:15:52 | |
Come to the table. | 00:15:54 | |
Possible that invitation is open and. | 00:15:58 | |
And exist now and has for some time. | 00:16:01 | |
My first thought on the contract extension is that. | 00:16:04 | |
I have gotten minimal. | 00:16:08 | |
Calls on. | 00:16:09 | |
How we're doing things now. | 00:16:11 | |
And and I'm talking less than 10 / a year and I'm saying that. | 00:16:14 | |
More than half of those were favorable. | 00:16:18 | |
So. | 00:16:20 | |
I think we should all be thinking about we really don't need to. We're not going to vote on it today, but if there's any further | 00:16:22 | |
discussion or input. | 00:16:25 | |
When we continue to outsource it or not. | 00:16:29 | |
What do we? | 00:16:32 | |
Pain for a year on that. He was like right at 100. | 00:16:33 | |
Just under, just over. I think it's a little over, I think, Diana. | 00:16:37 | |
Yeah. But I did have a conversation with Mr. Draper yesterday. Just checking in, see how operations are running out there. | 00:16:41 | |
He did tell me that he is interested in continuing. | 00:16:49 | |
His service for Floyd County. | 00:16:53 | |
And he? | 00:16:54 | |
He is interested in bringing his operations into Floyd County out of where its current location, so. | 00:16:56 | |
Yeah, we'll have to start making soon. | 00:17:04 | |
And somewhere in the near future. | 00:17:05 | |
But I would think even if we continue as a. | 00:17:09 | |
Outsourcing that. | 00:17:12 | |
That other than an inflationary bump. | 00:17:13 | |
Just so you can kind of have a kind of a price set in your mind on that. I mean, to me the ideal situation is still joining up | 00:17:16 | |
with the city to do something. | 00:17:20 | |
Second idea would be. | 00:17:25 | |
If our contractor can bring something to Floyd County. | 00:17:28 | |
How the current cost is 100%? | 00:17:33 | |
1300 dollars 176. | 00:17:37 | |
Per year? Per year? | 00:17:40 | |
OK. | 00:17:44 | |
Thank you. I was well off on that. | 00:17:47 | |
Sheriff, did you have any thoughts on the matter? I know that. | 00:17:55 | |
You all kind of dispatch. | 00:17:57 | |
Him through your all's office at times, correct? | 00:17:59 | |
Yeah. | 00:18:10 | |
You'll remember that previously served on board. | 00:18:12 | |
We have reviewed that. | 00:18:18 | |
Run volume up CD. | 00:18:25 | |
Pretty well I can get those numbers for you then before. | 00:18:27 | |
But as far as it responds. | 00:18:31 | |
Sheriff's Office couldn't get on the. | 00:18:34 | |
Calls. | 00:18:36 | |
Exceptional warriors were responsive. | 00:18:38 | |
Great things that previously the. | 00:18:41 | |
Good relationship on our. | 00:18:48 | |
Seems to me like the run volume monthly was. | 00:18:50 | |
About what? | 00:18:53 | |
The city had told us we were running annually. | 00:18:54 | |
50 or 60 or something like that. | 00:18:58 | |
Per month, whereas previous to that. | 00:19:00 | |
They had reported 50 or 60 in the previous year. | 00:19:03 | |
So. | 00:19:07 | |
I would like to say I'm on that. | 00:19:08 | |
And I appreciate and. | 00:19:11 | |
Respect all of the time efforts. | 00:19:13 | |
And passion that Mister Sharp has put into that board, getting that board up and running and his compassion towards the animals. | 00:19:16 | |
Good. Thank you all Good. | 00:19:26 | |
Did you ever set up a? | 00:19:29 | |
501. | 00:19:32 | |
C3. | 00:19:34 | |
I still have people who want to know how to donate to that. | 00:19:42 | |
With the end goal of. | 00:19:45 | |
Freestanding Floyd County shelter. | 00:19:47 | |
All right. Anything else on animal? | 00:19:51 | |
Control. | 00:19:53 | |
All right, EMS Fire F8. | 00:19:55 | |
Like to share, Jason? | 00:19:58 | |
Yeah, I spent some time with this topic yesterday, going through some numbers trying to get everyone an idea of what an annual. | 00:20:00 | |
Operating costs would look like still working on a few of those numbers right now. I want to make sure that I have everyone. | 00:20:08 | |
The accurate information they need to make a good decision going forward, but. | 00:20:15 | |
That's where we stand on the EMS as of right now. | 00:20:20 | |
OK. And there are? | 00:20:23 | |
Multiple public meetings for that. | 00:20:27 | |
Fire district, Yeah, So. | 00:20:29 | |
There is a proposed fire territory between. | 00:20:31 | |
Georgetown and New Albany Township fire departments. | 00:20:36 | |
Originally, umm, uh. | 00:20:40 | |
It involves Franklin Township as well, however. | 00:20:41 | |
A couple members of the Township Advisory Board has decided to step away. | 00:20:46 | |
At this time, from the territory and. | 00:20:50 | |
But uh. | 00:20:53 | |
Georgetown and New Albany Township. | 00:20:53 | |
Plan on continuing moving forward so. | 00:20:56 | |
There will be three public meetings. | 00:20:58 | |
All those dates. | 00:21:01 | |
Will be available on both Georgetown and New Albany townships. | 00:21:03 | |
Websites and also the presentation. | 00:21:08 | |
That was given by. | 00:21:12 | |
Mr. Moody, who is the? | 00:21:14 | |
Board president for Georgetown Township Fire District and Baker Tilly. | 00:21:15 | |
Are also available so. | 00:21:19 | |
If anybody's interested in seeing. | 00:21:22 | |
OK. Thank you. | 00:21:24 | |
OK. Anything else? | 00:21:27 | |
I do have question. | 00:21:30 | |
Alec, one time, you said. | 00:21:31 | |
That you were going to get all of the chiefs together in A room. | 00:21:33 | |
And with the commissioners and just try to hash this. | 00:21:38 | |
Pulsing out. | 00:21:42 | |
So that we can have some. | 00:21:43 | |
I don't want to say synergy, but. | 00:21:46 | |
We're all in agreement. | 00:21:50 | |
The fire chiefs and the. | 00:21:52 | |
And the commissioners I'm. | 00:21:56 | |
How we're going to move forward, I know we're never going to all agree, but at least we're all getting on the same page. Is that | 00:21:58 | |
happen? | 00:22:01 | |
At all where we can all chiefs together. | 00:22:05 | |
Task Force I will tell you that. | 00:22:09 | |
For several months, the Islander chief was really not. | 00:22:11 | |
Yeah, well, I mean, but we do. | 00:22:16 | |
That is settled down down there then. | 00:22:20 | |
Well, we do have a temporary. I think there's a temporary chief in place. | 00:22:22 | |
But they've all had. | 00:22:26 | |
Access an invitation to each of these meetings. No, I understand, but have we just sit down with the three of them in a room or 4? | 00:22:29 | |
Are there 433? | 00:22:37 | |
In a room with you guys and just hash this thing through about what the right way to move forward is. It just seems like. | 00:22:39 | |
There's a lot of. | 00:22:47 | |
People in a. | 00:22:49 | |
A lot of different rooms and we're not. | 00:22:50 | |
Talking with. | 00:22:53 | |
All that. Well, I'll let Jason speak. I think he's had a lot of the people in. Yeah. So what? | 00:22:55 | |
What are you speaking to and what are you trying to accomplish by with the people? I just think, I just think it's. | 00:22:59 | |
A good idea to get all the people that are. | 00:23:05 | |
Going to move forward. | 00:23:09 | |
In some fashion, in a room together. | 00:23:10 | |
To understand what the. | 00:23:14 | |
How we can move forward together? | 00:23:16 | |
As a county in this both the fire and the EMS. | 00:23:19 | |
Well, I don't know why we can't all get in a room together. | 00:23:23 | |
Well, they they do have one company Fire Chief meetings where they all get in the room. | 00:23:26 | |
And talk about things amongst their respective agencies. | 00:23:31 | |
I can tell you that in regard to EMS, there's. | 00:23:36 | |
One jurisdiction out of all of them that are interested in doing it and the rest are not. | 00:23:39 | |
Now they're having a hard enough time. | 00:23:44 | |
Paying the bills just as a district as it stands, which is one of the reasons they're looking at a territory. | 00:23:45 | |
And the territory meetings have been public. | 00:23:51 | |
I've had some questions on. | 00:23:54 | |
At this point, while Highlander is involved in the conversation of the territory and. | 00:23:56 | |
The answer is is they surpassed the. | 00:24:01 | |
Statutory of. | 00:24:03 | |
Debt limit. | 00:24:05 | |
To enter a territory. | 00:24:06 | |
That's why. | 00:24:08 | |
Because they have $2.3 billion worth of debt. | 00:24:09 | |
Quick answers, there's been plenty of opportunities for everybody to be there that has kind of supplanted. | 00:24:18 | |
In my mind that need to have. | 00:24:23 | |
But we could certainly get back to that. I think we looked at three chiefs and each of their attorneys coming into a room. But. | 00:24:26 | |
Yeah. What is the, what is the threshold for the territory? | 00:24:32 | |
You have to ask the. | 00:24:36 | |
Attorney I'm I'm not sure what that number is. | 00:24:38 | |
Threshold. | 00:24:41 | |
For the debt. | 00:24:43 | |
Because your your debt stays with your. | 00:24:45 | |
Your jurisdiction. | 00:24:47 | |
So I think the best opportunity could. | 00:24:52 | |
Going immediately forward is to getting to know these folks is. | 00:24:55 | |
To go to these three public meetings, there's also been a great deal of turmoil with. | 00:24:59 | |
Yeah, Township, you know, they have a relatively. | 00:25:05 | |
But. | 00:25:12 | |
Yeah. | 00:25:14 | |
Turnover, for a while we were, we were anticipating. | 00:25:16 | |
So right now, I think the people that are in there are. | 00:25:19 | |
We're doing a good job and showing up for meetings and. | 00:25:22 | |
Take a half a step back. Did you need us to sign on this? | 00:25:29 | |
Contract was after Tuesday. | 00:25:31 | |
The Animal Control. | 00:25:35 | |
Entities changed. | 00:25:37 | |
It's corporate name, so we just need to resign a contract with the same numbers, just under a different. | 00:25:39 | |
Name. | 00:25:44 | |
All right, Community Foundation appointments. | 00:25:46 | |
So how many spots do we have? | 00:25:52 | |
I think just one vacancy, right, but. | 00:25:55 | |
Board would like to have four to five names. | 00:25:58 | |
I guess within our compact with them, we're supposed to give them four or five names and then they are supposed to choose from | 00:26:02 | |
amongst them. | 00:26:06 | |
And. | 00:26:10 | |
Community Foundation does a lot. Primarily there are the stewards of the. | 00:26:12 | |
Remnants of the hospital watching out remnants of. | 00:26:17 | |
The growing proceeds from the hospital sales within that. | 00:26:21 | |
That was turned over to them, I think. | 00:26:28 | |
The last time we looked at that, they had. | 00:26:30 | |
70 + 1,000,000 right so. | 00:26:33 | |
It's a big. | 00:26:35 | |
Yeah, high 70s. | 00:26:37 | |
So yeah, either high 70s or low 80s. So I came with one name. | 00:26:38 | |
That I'd like to put forward. We really don't need to. | 00:26:44 | |
I think anybody can put anybody forward and then we can just get those names over to them and. | 00:26:47 | |
So so. | 00:26:53 | |
I'm gonna nominate Ed Rita. | 00:26:54 | |
Whose it has an extensive background in community service and banking and. | 00:26:56 | |
Ed Riddabouds, REU. | 00:27:03 | |
TEVUCH. | 00:27:09 | |
And then we put the names forward and then. | 00:27:12 | |
The Community Foundation. | 00:27:16 | |
Ask for any resumes. | 00:27:18 | |
Or background information are contacted as they would like. | 00:27:20 | |
So start with Sam. I don't know if. | 00:27:23 | |
Matt, Jason. | 00:27:29 | |
I've spoken with. | 00:27:32 | |
Probably 3 individuals that are very well qualified that do not wish to do it. | 00:27:34 | |
Which I've I've had the same. | 00:27:40 | |
But. | 00:27:44 | |
I've had the same thing I've done. I've reached out to two and one that I put forward last year 3. | 00:27:45 | |
And. | 00:27:51 | |
They've all declined so. | 00:27:53 | |
And, and my, I wasn't around when we, you know, transferred this money to Community Foundation and I'm not a fan of them picking | 00:27:55 | |
our board member. | 00:27:59 | |
So. | 00:28:03 | |
I know. | 00:28:05 | |
And he's very well qualified. I'm glad that he's. | 00:28:07 | |
Would would serve. | 00:28:10 | |
And if. | 00:28:12 | |
Nobody else has a name. | 00:28:14 | |
If you do, that's great. If you don't, I'm in favor of submitting one name and saying. | 00:28:17 | |
Pick one name from the one name. | 00:28:21 | |
Because. | 00:28:23 | |
Yeah, we're playing by rules that were established before we go right. | 00:28:26 | |
I believe if we have a board appointment, we should be able to make the board appointment. I'm not in favor of them picking. | 00:28:29 | |
One of three or four. So anyway, that's my two cents. Go ahead. | 00:28:36 | |
I did reach out to one person and that one person declined but did recommend someone else. | 00:28:40 | |
So I can give you the name and the name was Bill Kaiser. | 00:28:46 | |
So if. | 00:28:50 | |
I've not asked him or approached him SO. | 00:28:51 | |
OK, put Bill down as. | 00:28:54 | |
Someone would have to double check with. | 00:28:57 | |
Alone and also maybe talk with our attorney about seeing whether or not there's any way we can. | 00:28:59 | |
Renegotiate that. | 00:29:04 | |
That deal so we have a board member that we. | 00:29:07 | |
You know. | 00:29:10 | |
We give them one name, it's. | 00:29:12 | |
Yeah, it's disheartening that. | 00:29:14 | |
Were their biggest depositor and. | 00:29:16 | |
We can't pick our own board member, but anyway. | 00:29:20 | |
Jim, do you have anybody? | 00:29:22 | |
Yeah. OK. So it's and it did indicate a willingness to serve so. | 00:29:24 | |
We'll put those two forward from there. | 00:29:30 | |
And then we'll have a discussion with them to see. | 00:29:33 | |
It may not even be a written policy on their part, it may just be something that they've. | 00:29:36 | |
Done by custom and. | 00:29:41 | |
Yeah, we can go 12345 with the same name and. | 00:29:44 | |
See where we get with that? | 00:29:47 | |
OK. | 00:29:50 | |
I did have one other just. | 00:29:53 | |
Heads up we talked about. | 00:29:54 | |
Trying to. | 00:29:58 | |
Bring some of that money back to edit. | 00:30:00 | |
That back in 20/16/2017 had. | 00:30:03 | |
Gone from the commissioners added fund over to the general fund. | 00:30:08 | |
We can. You've got that. We're going to be discussing that. | 00:30:14 | |
On the 28th. | 00:30:18 | |
We thought a good place to start would be, you know, the utilities, telephone and some of those things that clearly have a. | 00:30:21 | |
County wide footprint and. | 00:30:28 | |
We're going to be redoing our capital plan. | 00:30:30 | |
Probably be finished in the first quarter and. | 00:30:33 | |
You know, we would like to to make some steps towards recouping some of that so we can bring that back and put it into. | 00:30:38 | |
Capital investments, Bridges. | 00:30:43 | |
We talked about Bridge 51. I could probably name five others that are in imminent need of. | 00:30:46 | |
Repair and attention that they've installed out for about a decade because. | 00:30:51 | |
Of that so. | 00:30:56 | |
You know, we're, we're kind of earmarking that in our mind for construction. | 00:30:59 | |
And maintenance product. | 00:31:04 | |
Any other comment? | 00:31:07 | |
No, I mean we can get together again and discuss. | 00:31:10 | |
And I'll let you know. | 00:31:13 | |
What what comes out of that meeting on the 28th for ideas there and you know it could be incrementally they know. | 00:31:16 | |
If we can get some of that there. | 00:31:21 | |
This fiscal year or some in 2020? | 00:31:23 | |
6 or 27, I think that's the best approach so we don't overstep. | 00:31:26 | |
What we're? | 00:31:30 | |
OK, what we've got coming up? | 00:31:31 | |
I have nothing else before me other than to say next joint meeting is Tuesday February 25th, 2025. Is that at 4:00 PM? | 00:31:34 | |
We we made 11014 to pick it. | 00:31:43 | |
Can you tell me that again? February 25th at 4:00 PM. | 00:31:47 | |
February 20. | 00:31:52 | |
All right. | 00:31:56 | |
Oh, there, do we have anybody from the public we'd like to. | 00:31:57 | |
All right. | 00:32:04 | |
Jim will started cheering if you have any. | 00:32:05 | |
Comments, questions, or? | 00:32:07 | |
No, no, not this morning. | 00:32:09 | |
Nothing. | 00:32:11 | |
No, I'm good. | 00:32:13 | |
I have anything. | 00:32:16 | |
I don't have anything good. | 00:32:17 | |
All right, Danny, I'm good. | 00:32:19 | |
All right, in addition to. | 00:32:21 | |
That bridge incident. | 00:32:23 | |
Where we had, I mean. | 00:32:25 | |
Phenomenal to have people pick up at 9:30 at night and then show up there, you know? | 00:32:26 | |
Within an hour but. | 00:32:31 | |
I also want to commend our street department on snow removal. | 00:32:33 | |
There were a couple of this. | 00:32:37 | |
Misinformation pieces in the. | 00:32:41 | |
Paper article that went out the assault is not $85 a pound. | 00:32:43 | |
$5 a ton. | 00:32:46 | |
That's a slight difference. | 00:32:48 | |
Yes, like error there and. | 00:32:51 | |
At present, we have plenty of salt on hand. | 00:32:53 | |
They talked about is using 5000 by in 2000, but they didn't stick that we. | 00:32:56 | |
We started with about 9000 tons on hand so. | 00:33:00 | |
So. | 00:33:04 | |
We hope we don't get anymore of that magnitude because they're expensive events, but. | 00:33:05 | |
We had. | 00:33:09 | |
For the better part of three days, 24/7 we had. | 00:33:11 | |
13 trucks. We had one that that was disabled. | 00:33:15 | |
Pretty quickly into that, had to be kind of rehabbed and cannibalized for parts, but we had. | 00:33:18 | |
Basically 12 up and running 24/7 and the crews did a phenomenal job and. | 00:33:23 | |
So I think. | 00:33:30 | |
Particularly relative to some. | 00:33:31 | |
Some other areas we go primarily. | 00:33:33 | |
Good marks on that, I know. | 00:33:37 | |
People on some of the side streets, it's difficult to get everybody all at once. | 00:33:39 | |
But. | 00:33:43 | |
That was hopefully a once in a decade type snow. | 00:33:44 | |
So I want to thank them. | 00:33:48 | |
And I have nothing else, so look for a motion to adjourn. | 00:33:50 | |
Second all in favor, aye. | 00:33:53 | |
By the way, when the green lights are on. | 00:33:58 | |
And they're hot. | 00:34:01 | |
They are hot. | 00:34:03 |
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All right, for the uninitiated, this room is too hot in the winter and too cold in the summer, so. | 00:00:28 | |
Welcome. | 00:00:35 | |
Welcome new folks. | 00:00:37 | |
Frankly, or may not make it, I guess Sam's here and Matt's here, so welcome. | 00:00:39 | |
Welcome to the survivors. | 00:00:43 | |
Back in it for another year. | 00:00:45 | |
These meetings. | 00:00:48 | |
I think. | 00:00:49 | |
Purpose and utility, we kind of started out of necessity. | 00:00:51 | |
During the the heat of some things that were going on last spring with the. | 00:00:55 | |
EMS and a couple of other things, but I think they've been. | 00:00:59 | |
Really useful for facilitating communication between the Commissioners and the Council as well as. | 00:01:02 | |
Just within the bodies themselves. | 00:01:10 | |
Sometimes this will workout where. | 00:01:13 | |
The commissioners will have a vote on something during the meeting as our own body and. | 00:01:15 | |
Council could just kind of sit back and watch on that and vice versa so. | 00:01:21 | |
I don't believe we have any. | 00:01:25 | |
Votes on the agenda this morning, so. | 00:01:27 | |
But. | 00:01:30 | |
These work best where everybody kind of speaks their mind. There are definitely restrictions on how we can meet. | 00:01:32 | |
Privately, which is another reason we brought these together, you know. | 00:01:38 | |
We can't have. | 00:01:42 | |
Two commissioners together without forming a quorum. And so that sometimes is difficult. So these have been been helpful in that | 00:01:44 | |
matter. | 00:01:47 | |
We have an agenda, but it's not a strict agenda. | 00:01:53 | |
So sometimes we add things to it, sometimes we take things off of it, and at the end we like to have kind of a. | 00:01:56 | |
Go around the horn just for anybody who has any. | 00:02:03 | |
Thing that they would like to say. | 00:02:06 | |
Publicly and will often open it up for public comment as well. | 00:02:08 | |
So. | 00:02:12 | |
We'll start by seeking approval of the 11/15/2024 joint meeting minutes. | 00:02:13 | |
You don't technically have to have been present in order to vote up or down on those, but as long as you've reviewed them. But | 00:02:20 | |
I'll look for a motion to approve those so so moved. | 00:02:24 | |
2nd I have a motion and 2nd all in favor. | 00:02:30 | |
Aye. All right. I want to talk a little bit about the Health Department building update today. | 00:02:33 | |
Matt, Sam, do you know where the building? | 00:02:40 | |
The question is so. | 00:02:42 | |
We have signed a letter of intent to purchase with that that was signed before the end of the year and that moves forward into. | 00:02:44 | |
Formal discussion of how we're going to finance that. | 00:02:51 | |
I actually have a. | 00:02:55 | |
Letter I got from Crow yesterday that I didn't DocuSign yet because I knew that this meeting was here today but. | 00:02:57 | |
Basically would engage Crow to look at the bond anticipatory note or whatever other options that we might put forward to for | 00:03:05 | |
financing on that building. | 00:03:09 | |
And. | 00:03:14 | |
The cost for their services would be wrapped up in whatever financial vehicle we end up. | 00:03:17 | |
Signing off on SO. | 00:03:22 | |
There's no majority problem with signing that document. I'm going to go. | 00:03:24 | |
Forward with that anywhere it's a. | 00:03:28 | |
Primarily a commissioner's decision on that one, but. | 00:03:30 | |
Are you at liberty to discuss the price and. | 00:03:33 | |
Any renovation costs that might be associated with that? | 00:03:37 | |
Danny, you have a handle on both of those, or? | 00:03:42 | |
I can give you a ballpark he might have a more precise number on. | 00:03:45 | |
Yeah, absolutely. The price is. | 00:03:50 | |
2.2 million. | 00:03:53 | |
For the building. | 00:03:54 | |
The renovation cost. | 00:03:56 | |
Are 98% on the 1st floor. | 00:03:59 | |
2nd floor. | 00:04:03 | |
Seems ready to. | 00:04:05 | |
Put into use. | 00:04:07 | |
Would you? Would you agree? | 00:04:08 | |
The IT part of it needs to be done, the security part. | 00:04:14 | |
Setting it up, I think you initially looked maybe a little bit of painting. | 00:04:18 | |
That's right. | 00:04:22 | |
But pretty much other than the IT part of it. | 00:04:25 | |
Yes, I think it's ready to do that, right. | 00:04:28 | |
So how much is the renovation cost? Renovation. We're probably ******* in the $300,000 range for the first floor for. | 00:04:30 | |
To build out. | 00:04:38 | |
Patient rooms. | 00:04:39 | |
Um, and convert some. | 00:04:41 | |
Space. | 00:04:45 | |
Would we have the opportunity to understand what the renovation costs are? | 00:05:08 | |
Because that needs to go into the bonding. | 00:05:12 | |
As well, I would assume right and they were going to be part of that in. | 00:05:15 | |
That exploration as well before. | 00:05:18 | |
Before we sign off. | 00:05:21 | |
I'm signing off on the ability for them to do that work. I don't think we're going to have a full. | 00:05:22 | |
Understanding of. | 00:05:28 | |
Renovation until after we close and get. | 00:05:29 | |
Some people in there to. | 00:05:32 | |
We're going to close and then. | 00:05:35 | |
Bond it. So we're not going to bond with the renovation cost in. | 00:05:38 | |
Bonding, Bonding. | 00:05:43 | |
The I'm trying to understand. | 00:05:45 | |
That's all. | 00:05:47 | |
Yeah, the hope would be upon anticipatory note and then? | 00:05:48 | |
Perhaps painting up before bonds are issued? | 00:05:52 | |
OK, I will say that after. | 00:05:55 | |
County Attorney Christy Fox spoke with. | 00:05:58 | |
Your representatives the other day, it's our understanding that you. | 00:06:00 | |
Have roughly $170,000 that you can put. | 00:06:03 | |
Towards that renovation now and perhaps another 70,000 per year for 2026 and 27. | 00:06:05 | |
As long as that comes through. | 00:06:12 | |
The state. | 00:06:15 | |
So. | 00:06:16 | |
You know, I think we can count on that 170,000. | 00:06:18 | |
Now it sounds like the other 140. | 00:06:21 | |
Is. | 00:06:24 | |
Promised with the provision that the state comes through on it. | 00:06:25 | |
Right, which we all see in the news this morning that Brian anticipates. | 00:06:28 | |
Cutting the. | 00:06:34 | |
Public Health. | 00:06:36 | |
Budget. | 00:06:38 | |
Significantly, it sounds like. | 00:06:40 | |
Is am I misstating that? | 00:06:43 | |
I didn't see it. | 00:06:45 | |
I seen in the newspaper this morning, I saw a 5% cut across all agencies. Yeah, their N numbers more. | 00:06:46 | |
Associated with. | 00:06:53 | |
Directly with public health, but if we have 170 that we can get. | 00:06:54 | |
Somehow. | 00:06:58 | |
Promise there's some sort of formal letter of intent from the board now that would help, because I can submit that into the folks | 00:07:00 | |
at Crow. | 00:07:03 | |
And then also. | 00:07:06 | |
The anticipated 70,000 per year provided that it's there. And I get that that's beyond your control as well to some degree, but at | 00:07:08 | |
least we. | 00:07:11 | |
At that point in time have have a measure. I mean, I would think that that would probably pay for at least. | 00:07:15 | |
1/3 to. | 00:07:20 | |
40% of what we're talking about, even if we get on the expensive. | 00:07:21 | |
And it would. | 00:07:26 | |
Be up to the council then to find the rest of the funding. | 00:07:27 | |
Yes, OK. | 00:07:31 | |
Is anybody? | 00:07:33 | |
I guess we're going to talk about that in the joint meeting. | 00:07:35 | |
I mean in the. | 00:07:38 | |
Counter Workshop. | 00:07:40 | |
Come in the end of the month. | 00:07:41 | |
Yeah and yeah. | 00:07:43 | |
That will be one of them. And again, this is one of those areas where. | 00:07:45 | |
So we're buying a building, but we don't really understand how we're going to finance it. | 00:07:49 | |
I need to, I need to understand this because this is one of the areas that I've talked about. | 00:07:55 | |
Extensively. | 00:08:01 | |
That moving forward into the future, we have projects that we have to pay for. | 00:08:02 | |
This is yet another one of those. | 00:08:07 | |
That if the Council has to. | 00:08:09 | |
Pay part of the renovation cost. | 00:08:14 | |
We're now able to do that. | 00:08:16 | |
Because we are now able to free up funds that. | 00:08:18 | |
Yes. | 00:08:22 | |
I understand that. | 00:08:24 | |
I understand that completely. We now have. | 00:08:25 | |
Some 4 1/2 to $5,000,000 worth of. | 00:08:29 | |
My niece who? | 00:08:33 | |
Figure out. | 00:08:35 | |
And again, I don't think that that is going to be available to directly finance this, but indirectly, yes, right. | 00:08:36 | |
Exactly, I would have to say that. | 00:08:44 | |
In my opinion. | 00:08:48 | |
That. | 00:08:51 | |
Those dollars to finance this could have been. | 00:08:52 | |
Taxed a different way. | 00:08:58 | |
To. | 00:09:00 | |
To give the county a $1.00 to $1.00. | 00:09:03 | |
Financing on this building instead of. | 00:09:08 | |
A taxpayer paying $2.00. | 00:09:10 | |
And financing this building. | 00:09:13 | |
$2.00 instead of $1.00. | 00:09:16 | |
Of every dollar that's coming in. | 00:09:18 | |
Because the county is getting. | 00:09:20 | |
I mean, the city is getting the other dollars. | 00:09:23 | |
I don't know. I mean, I'm just bringing that up and I know this is something we're going to, you know. | 00:09:26 | |
Work on. | 00:09:31 | |
Next. | 00:09:33 | |
At the at the workshop. | 00:09:35 | |
Again, we're we're not giving the city anything. | 00:09:36 | |
The citizens of the city are county citizens, so. | 00:09:40 | |
The taxpayers are and there would have been a different way to finance this. | 00:09:45 | |
For the taxpayer dollar than the way we did it. | 00:09:49 | |
That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying it's wrong or it's right, I'm just saying. | 00:09:52 | |
The taxpayers are paying $2.00 for every $1.00 they would have had to pay for this bill. That's that's not correct. | 00:09:57 | |
That is not correct. | 00:10:03 | |
Yes, it is. | 00:10:03 | |
I'll let you guys talk about that. Yes, we'll talk about it. I did have a quick question. Yes, that's OK. | 00:10:04 | |
Didn't we have one of our earlier conversations that you all think you have the additional funding in your budget to cover most of | 00:10:10 | |
this? | 00:10:14 | |
Funded cost for the purchase. I thought there was a discussion about that. | 00:10:17 | |
When you. | 00:10:22 | |
Funding from the HFI bus. | 00:10:24 | |
OK. | 00:10:35 | |
So let me talk about. | 00:10:38 | |
HMI only allows. | 00:10:40 | |
That's it and that's it. Legislation group. | 00:10:45 | |
Yeah. | 00:10:47 | |
So, so am I correct that the $70,000 that I was talking about is exactly what you're talking about? And so there they have $70,000 | 00:10:52 | |
and what I understand? | 00:10:59 | |
Somewhere around that over. | 00:11:07 | |
Hey. | 00:11:12 | |
But the other is an estimate for the future. | 00:11:13 | |
Understand. | 00:11:17 | |
Right. So that that 300 to 400 was basically. | 00:11:18 | |
Based upon that. | 00:11:21 | |
Roughly 70. | 00:11:23 | |
No, I think we talked. | 00:11:25 | |
What we talked about one of the Council meetings I. | 00:11:27 | |
Was the COVID funds at one time that might have been subsiding? That's what you're thinking? | 00:11:32 | |
Maybe that's why I'm getting confused with there may be. | 00:11:38 | |
That are in the rainy day now. OK yeah, I'm not refreshing my memory I think. | 00:11:43 | |
800,000 I believe it's around 800. | 00:11:47 | |
It's right under 1.1 million, 1.1 million. | 00:11:51 | |
$1157.74. | 00:11:55 | |
OK, I think you're right. One, one point. | 00:11:58 | |
And that's another reason why. | 00:12:02 | |
We are. | 00:12:03 | |
Doing a band. | 00:12:05 | |
I believe we can. | 00:12:08 | |
Use the CARES Act money. | 00:12:09 | |
Along with. | 00:12:12 | |
The health Department's money for renovations and we can leave it on a ban and we can pay it off before. | 00:12:13 | |
Gets to a bond. | 00:12:18 | |
Or if not. | 00:12:19 | |
On significantly less bond, significantly less. | 00:12:20 | |
Maybe with another project? | 00:12:23 | |
OK. | 00:12:25 | |
Anything else on? | 00:12:27 | |
Item one item 2 is bridge 51 which I brought up as an update I think it was last Saturday on the days are kind of running together | 00:12:28 | |
but I gotta. | 00:12:32 | |
Social media alert that there have been some large potholes that opened up on that, so really within the hour we had. | 00:12:35 | |
Sheriff's Department in conjunction with High. | 00:12:41 | |
Our street department out there doing some patching took a couple hours to do that night and then they went back Monday. | 00:12:44 | |
Again, all the engineering reports state that the substructure is fine. The deck. | 00:12:50 | |
Needs a lot of love and will continue to need some love to kind of get us to. | 00:12:55 | |
The letting and building process for the replacement. | 00:12:59 | |
The reason I have this on there in addition to to commend. | 00:13:03 | |
Our officers as well as our Rd. crews with regards to a quick response is that. | 00:13:06 | |
Because there have been delays on the federal part of that, our fear is that. | 00:13:12 | |
The overall cost might be. | 00:13:16 | |
Significantly more when it comes to letting that project in September. | 00:13:18 | |
And we're on the hook for a 20% match. We have $1,000,000 set aside for that. | 00:13:23 | |
So last Thursday I met with. | 00:13:28 | |
Virtually with the Barnes Thornburg representatives. | 00:13:32 | |
And I'm going to be engaging them. | 00:13:36 | |
Not to borrow any money at this point in time, but for them to research our borrowing capacity so that when that project is let. | 00:13:39 | |
If we need an additional. | 00:13:47 | |
1/4 to 1/2 million dollars the paperwork. | 00:13:50 | |
Paperwork will be in place to. | 00:13:53 | |
Execute that. | 00:13:55 | |
That extended credit at that time because I don't want any delay on. | 00:13:57 | |
That bridge project to come from the commissioners body, so. | 00:14:01 | |
It's just kind of a heads up that we're going to be doing that. | 00:14:05 | |
Any cost on that will be rolled up into anything that's borrowed and if we end up not using that. | 00:14:08 | |
Then we'll have to pay them an hourly rate for that. | 00:14:13 | |
So any questions on Bridge 51? | 00:14:17 | |
Great. | 00:14:21 | |
Item 3. | 00:14:22 | |
This was placed on here before the news this week and last night about the city. | 00:14:25 | |
Perhaps I don't know how that vote went last night going forward with their own animal shelter. | 00:14:30 | |
It passed. It passed OK. | 00:14:36 | |
That's where my money would have. | 00:14:37 | |
Than that but. | 00:14:39 | |
You know, we've made multiple. | 00:14:41 | |
Context trying to get. | 00:14:43 | |
The city back to the table to have a new interlocal agreement struck. | 00:14:45 | |
We've had no success with that to date. | 00:14:49 | |
With the vote last night, if they. | 00:14:52 | |
That's going to go forward. Then the next step on our part is going to be to. | 00:14:54 | |
Again, if we can't get people to come to the table. | 00:14:58 | |
On an invitation and a handshake, then we'll have to engage them. | 00:15:03 | |
Through mediation or somehow to find out ownership of the building. | 00:15:06 | |
That's the animal shelter that exists right now. The county has. | 00:15:10 | |
Deed of property. | 00:15:13 | |
I think the fairest offer and the one that we've made. | 00:15:16 | |
Privately, but I don't mind extending it. | 00:15:20 | |
Publicly is that is that. | 00:15:22 | |
We were willing to just get 2 appraisals and. | 00:15:24 | |
Pay them half of the average of those for the building as it exists now and. | 00:15:27 | |
And let everybody move on from it. | 00:15:31 | |
In any event, I just want everybody to know that. | 00:15:34 | |
Our current contract runs through this year. | 00:15:38 | |
But as time goes on, we're going to have to decide whether or not we're going to extend that contract. | 00:15:42 | |
Through 2027 and beyond, or whether we want to take the steps to create our own shelter. | 00:15:46 | |
Or or. | 00:15:52 | |
Come to the table. | 00:15:54 | |
Possible that invitation is open and. | 00:15:58 | |
And exist now and has for some time. | 00:16:01 | |
My first thought on the contract extension is that. | 00:16:04 | |
I have gotten minimal. | 00:16:08 | |
Calls on. | 00:16:09 | |
How we're doing things now. | 00:16:11 | |
And and I'm talking less than 10 / a year and I'm saying that. | 00:16:14 | |
More than half of those were favorable. | 00:16:18 | |
So. | 00:16:20 | |
I think we should all be thinking about we really don't need to. We're not going to vote on it today, but if there's any further | 00:16:22 | |
discussion or input. | 00:16:25 | |
When we continue to outsource it or not. | 00:16:29 | |
What do we? | 00:16:32 | |
Pain for a year on that. He was like right at 100. | 00:16:33 | |
Just under, just over. I think it's a little over, I think, Diana. | 00:16:37 | |
Yeah. But I did have a conversation with Mr. Draper yesterday. Just checking in, see how operations are running out there. | 00:16:41 | |
He did tell me that he is interested in continuing. | 00:16:49 | |
His service for Floyd County. | 00:16:53 | |
And he? | 00:16:54 | |
He is interested in bringing his operations into Floyd County out of where its current location, so. | 00:16:56 | |
Yeah, we'll have to start making soon. | 00:17:04 | |
And somewhere in the near future. | 00:17:05 | |
But I would think even if we continue as a. | 00:17:09 | |
Outsourcing that. | 00:17:12 | |
That other than an inflationary bump. | 00:17:13 | |
Just so you can kind of have a kind of a price set in your mind on that. I mean, to me the ideal situation is still joining up | 00:17:16 | |
with the city to do something. | 00:17:20 | |
Second idea would be. | 00:17:25 | |
If our contractor can bring something to Floyd County. | 00:17:28 | |
How the current cost is 100%? | 00:17:33 | |
1300 dollars 176. | 00:17:37 | |
Per year? Per year? | 00:17:40 | |
OK. | 00:17:44 | |
Thank you. I was well off on that. | 00:17:47 | |
Sheriff, did you have any thoughts on the matter? I know that. | 00:17:55 | |
You all kind of dispatch. | 00:17:57 | |
Him through your all's office at times, correct? | 00:17:59 | |
Yeah. | 00:18:10 | |
You'll remember that previously served on board. | 00:18:12 | |
We have reviewed that. | 00:18:18 | |
Run volume up CD. | 00:18:25 | |
Pretty well I can get those numbers for you then before. | 00:18:27 | |
But as far as it responds. | 00:18:31 | |
Sheriff's Office couldn't get on the. | 00:18:34 | |
Calls. | 00:18:36 | |
Exceptional warriors were responsive. | 00:18:38 | |
Great things that previously the. | 00:18:41 | |
Good relationship on our. | 00:18:48 | |
Seems to me like the run volume monthly was. | 00:18:50 | |
About what? | 00:18:53 | |
The city had told us we were running annually. | 00:18:54 | |
50 or 60 or something like that. | 00:18:58 | |
Per month, whereas previous to that. | 00:19:00 | |
They had reported 50 or 60 in the previous year. | 00:19:03 | |
So. | 00:19:07 | |
I would like to say I'm on that. | 00:19:08 | |
And I appreciate and. | 00:19:11 | |
Respect all of the time efforts. | 00:19:13 | |
And passion that Mister Sharp has put into that board, getting that board up and running and his compassion towards the animals. | 00:19:16 | |
Good. Thank you all Good. | 00:19:26 | |
Did you ever set up a? | 00:19:29 | |
501. | 00:19:32 | |
C3. | 00:19:34 | |
I still have people who want to know how to donate to that. | 00:19:42 | |
With the end goal of. | 00:19:45 | |
Freestanding Floyd County shelter. | 00:19:47 | |
All right. Anything else on animal? | 00:19:51 | |
Control. | 00:19:53 | |
All right, EMS Fire F8. | 00:19:55 | |
Like to share, Jason? | 00:19:58 | |
Yeah, I spent some time with this topic yesterday, going through some numbers trying to get everyone an idea of what an annual. | 00:20:00 | |
Operating costs would look like still working on a few of those numbers right now. I want to make sure that I have everyone. | 00:20:08 | |
The accurate information they need to make a good decision going forward, but. | 00:20:15 | |
That's where we stand on the EMS as of right now. | 00:20:20 | |
OK. And there are? | 00:20:23 | |
Multiple public meetings for that. | 00:20:27 | |
Fire district, Yeah, So. | 00:20:29 | |
There is a proposed fire territory between. | 00:20:31 | |
Georgetown and New Albany Township fire departments. | 00:20:36 | |
Originally, umm, uh. | 00:20:40 | |
It involves Franklin Township as well, however. | 00:20:41 | |
A couple members of the Township Advisory Board has decided to step away. | 00:20:46 | |
At this time, from the territory and. | 00:20:50 | |
But uh. | 00:20:53 | |
Georgetown and New Albany Township. | 00:20:53 | |
Plan on continuing moving forward so. | 00:20:56 | |
There will be three public meetings. | 00:20:58 | |
All those dates. | 00:21:01 | |
Will be available on both Georgetown and New Albany townships. | 00:21:03 | |
Websites and also the presentation. | 00:21:08 | |
That was given by. | 00:21:12 | |
Mr. Moody, who is the? | 00:21:14 | |
Board president for Georgetown Township Fire District and Baker Tilly. | 00:21:15 | |
Are also available so. | 00:21:19 | |
If anybody's interested in seeing. | 00:21:22 | |
OK. Thank you. | 00:21:24 | |
OK. Anything else? | 00:21:27 | |
I do have question. | 00:21:30 | |
Alec, one time, you said. | 00:21:31 | |
That you were going to get all of the chiefs together in A room. | 00:21:33 | |
And with the commissioners and just try to hash this. | 00:21:38 | |
Pulsing out. | 00:21:42 | |
So that we can have some. | 00:21:43 | |
I don't want to say synergy, but. | 00:21:46 | |
We're all in agreement. | 00:21:50 | |
The fire chiefs and the. | 00:21:52 | |
And the commissioners I'm. | 00:21:56 | |
How we're going to move forward, I know we're never going to all agree, but at least we're all getting on the same page. Is that | 00:21:58 | |
happen? | 00:22:01 | |
At all where we can all chiefs together. | 00:22:05 | |
Task Force I will tell you that. | 00:22:09 | |
For several months, the Islander chief was really not. | 00:22:11 | |
Yeah, well, I mean, but we do. | 00:22:16 | |
That is settled down down there then. | 00:22:20 | |
Well, we do have a temporary. I think there's a temporary chief in place. | 00:22:22 | |
But they've all had. | 00:22:26 | |
Access an invitation to each of these meetings. No, I understand, but have we just sit down with the three of them in a room or 4? | 00:22:29 | |
Are there 433? | 00:22:37 | |
In a room with you guys and just hash this thing through about what the right way to move forward is. It just seems like. | 00:22:39 | |
There's a lot of. | 00:22:47 | |
People in a. | 00:22:49 | |
A lot of different rooms and we're not. | 00:22:50 | |
Talking with. | 00:22:53 | |
All that. Well, I'll let Jason speak. I think he's had a lot of the people in. Yeah. So what? | 00:22:55 | |
What are you speaking to and what are you trying to accomplish by with the people? I just think, I just think it's. | 00:22:59 | |
A good idea to get all the people that are. | 00:23:05 | |
Going to move forward. | 00:23:09 | |
In some fashion, in a room together. | 00:23:10 | |
To understand what the. | 00:23:14 | |
How we can move forward together? | 00:23:16 | |
As a county in this both the fire and the EMS. | 00:23:19 | |
Well, I don't know why we can't all get in a room together. | 00:23:23 | |
Well, they they do have one company Fire Chief meetings where they all get in the room. | 00:23:26 | |
And talk about things amongst their respective agencies. | 00:23:31 | |
I can tell you that in regard to EMS, there's. | 00:23:36 | |
One jurisdiction out of all of them that are interested in doing it and the rest are not. | 00:23:39 | |
Now they're having a hard enough time. | 00:23:44 | |
Paying the bills just as a district as it stands, which is one of the reasons they're looking at a territory. | 00:23:45 | |
And the territory meetings have been public. | 00:23:51 | |
I've had some questions on. | 00:23:54 | |
At this point, while Highlander is involved in the conversation of the territory and. | 00:23:56 | |
The answer is is they surpassed the. | 00:24:01 | |
Statutory of. | 00:24:03 | |
Debt limit. | 00:24:05 | |
To enter a territory. | 00:24:06 | |
That's why. | 00:24:08 | |
Because they have $2.3 billion worth of debt. | 00:24:09 | |
Quick answers, there's been plenty of opportunities for everybody to be there that has kind of supplanted. | 00:24:18 | |
In my mind that need to have. | 00:24:23 | |
But we could certainly get back to that. I think we looked at three chiefs and each of their attorneys coming into a room. But. | 00:24:26 | |
Yeah. What is the, what is the threshold for the territory? | 00:24:32 | |
You have to ask the. | 00:24:36 | |
Attorney I'm I'm not sure what that number is. | 00:24:38 | |
Threshold. | 00:24:41 | |
For the debt. | 00:24:43 | |
Because your your debt stays with your. | 00:24:45 | |
Your jurisdiction. | 00:24:47 | |
So I think the best opportunity could. | 00:24:52 | |
Going immediately forward is to getting to know these folks is. | 00:24:55 | |
To go to these three public meetings, there's also been a great deal of turmoil with. | 00:24:59 | |
Yeah, Township, you know, they have a relatively. | 00:25:05 | |
But. | 00:25:12 | |
Yeah. | 00:25:14 | |
Turnover, for a while we were, we were anticipating. | 00:25:16 | |
So right now, I think the people that are in there are. | 00:25:19 | |
We're doing a good job and showing up for meetings and. | 00:25:22 | |
Take a half a step back. Did you need us to sign on this? | 00:25:29 | |
Contract was after Tuesday. | 00:25:31 | |
The Animal Control. | 00:25:35 | |
Entities changed. | 00:25:37 | |
It's corporate name, so we just need to resign a contract with the same numbers, just under a different. | 00:25:39 | |
Name. | 00:25:44 | |
All right, Community Foundation appointments. | 00:25:46 | |
So how many spots do we have? | 00:25:52 | |
I think just one vacancy, right, but. | 00:25:55 | |
Board would like to have four to five names. | 00:25:58 | |
I guess within our compact with them, we're supposed to give them four or five names and then they are supposed to choose from | 00:26:02 | |
amongst them. | 00:26:06 | |
And. | 00:26:10 | |
Community Foundation does a lot. Primarily there are the stewards of the. | 00:26:12 | |
Remnants of the hospital watching out remnants of. | 00:26:17 | |
The growing proceeds from the hospital sales within that. | 00:26:21 | |
That was turned over to them, I think. | 00:26:28 | |
The last time we looked at that, they had. | 00:26:30 | |
70 + 1,000,000 right so. | 00:26:33 | |
It's a big. | 00:26:35 | |
Yeah, high 70s. | 00:26:37 | |
So yeah, either high 70s or low 80s. So I came with one name. | 00:26:38 | |
That I'd like to put forward. We really don't need to. | 00:26:44 | |
I think anybody can put anybody forward and then we can just get those names over to them and. | 00:26:47 | |
So so. | 00:26:53 | |
I'm gonna nominate Ed Rita. | 00:26:54 | |
Whose it has an extensive background in community service and banking and. | 00:26:56 | |
Ed Riddabouds, REU. | 00:27:03 | |
TEVUCH. | 00:27:09 | |
And then we put the names forward and then. | 00:27:12 | |
The Community Foundation. | 00:27:16 | |
Ask for any resumes. | 00:27:18 | |
Or background information are contacted as they would like. | 00:27:20 | |
So start with Sam. I don't know if. | 00:27:23 | |
Matt, Jason. | 00:27:29 | |
I've spoken with. | 00:27:32 | |
Probably 3 individuals that are very well qualified that do not wish to do it. | 00:27:34 | |
Which I've I've had the same. | 00:27:40 | |
But. | 00:27:44 | |
I've had the same thing I've done. I've reached out to two and one that I put forward last year 3. | 00:27:45 | |
And. | 00:27:51 | |
They've all declined so. | 00:27:53 | |
And, and my, I wasn't around when we, you know, transferred this money to Community Foundation and I'm not a fan of them picking | 00:27:55 | |
our board member. | 00:27:59 | |
So. | 00:28:03 | |
I know. | 00:28:05 | |
And he's very well qualified. I'm glad that he's. | 00:28:07 | |
Would would serve. | 00:28:10 | |
And if. | 00:28:12 | |
Nobody else has a name. | 00:28:14 | |
If you do, that's great. If you don't, I'm in favor of submitting one name and saying. | 00:28:17 | |
Pick one name from the one name. | 00:28:21 | |
Because. | 00:28:23 | |
Yeah, we're playing by rules that were established before we go right. | 00:28:26 | |
I believe if we have a board appointment, we should be able to make the board appointment. I'm not in favor of them picking. | 00:28:29 | |
One of three or four. So anyway, that's my two cents. Go ahead. | 00:28:36 | |
I did reach out to one person and that one person declined but did recommend someone else. | 00:28:40 | |
So I can give you the name and the name was Bill Kaiser. | 00:28:46 | |
So if. | 00:28:50 | |
I've not asked him or approached him SO. | 00:28:51 | |
OK, put Bill down as. | 00:28:54 | |
Someone would have to double check with. | 00:28:57 | |
Alone and also maybe talk with our attorney about seeing whether or not there's any way we can. | 00:28:59 | |
Renegotiate that. | 00:29:04 | |
That deal so we have a board member that we. | 00:29:07 | |
You know. | 00:29:10 | |
We give them one name, it's. | 00:29:12 | |
Yeah, it's disheartening that. | 00:29:14 | |
Were their biggest depositor and. | 00:29:16 | |
We can't pick our own board member, but anyway. | 00:29:20 | |
Jim, do you have anybody? | 00:29:22 | |
Yeah. OK. So it's and it did indicate a willingness to serve so. | 00:29:24 | |
We'll put those two forward from there. | 00:29:30 | |
And then we'll have a discussion with them to see. | 00:29:33 | |
It may not even be a written policy on their part, it may just be something that they've. | 00:29:36 | |
Done by custom and. | 00:29:41 | |
Yeah, we can go 12345 with the same name and. | 00:29:44 | |
See where we get with that? | 00:29:47 | |
OK. | 00:29:50 | |
I did have one other just. | 00:29:53 | |
Heads up we talked about. | 00:29:54 | |
Trying to. | 00:29:58 | |
Bring some of that money back to edit. | 00:30:00 | |
That back in 20/16/2017 had. | 00:30:03 | |
Gone from the commissioners added fund over to the general fund. | 00:30:08 | |
We can. You've got that. We're going to be discussing that. | 00:30:14 | |
On the 28th. | 00:30:18 | |
We thought a good place to start would be, you know, the utilities, telephone and some of those things that clearly have a. | 00:30:21 | |
County wide footprint and. | 00:30:28 | |
We're going to be redoing our capital plan. | 00:30:30 | |
Probably be finished in the first quarter and. | 00:30:33 | |
You know, we would like to to make some steps towards recouping some of that so we can bring that back and put it into. | 00:30:38 | |
Capital investments, Bridges. | 00:30:43 | |
We talked about Bridge 51. I could probably name five others that are in imminent need of. | 00:30:46 | |
Repair and attention that they've installed out for about a decade because. | 00:30:51 | |
Of that so. | 00:30:56 | |
You know, we're, we're kind of earmarking that in our mind for construction. | 00:30:59 | |
And maintenance product. | 00:31:04 | |
Any other comment? | 00:31:07 | |
No, I mean we can get together again and discuss. | 00:31:10 | |
And I'll let you know. | 00:31:13 | |
What what comes out of that meeting on the 28th for ideas there and you know it could be incrementally they know. | 00:31:16 | |
If we can get some of that there. | 00:31:21 | |
This fiscal year or some in 2020? | 00:31:23 | |
6 or 27, I think that's the best approach so we don't overstep. | 00:31:26 | |
What we're? | 00:31:30 | |
OK, what we've got coming up? | 00:31:31 | |
I have nothing else before me other than to say next joint meeting is Tuesday February 25th, 2025. Is that at 4:00 PM? | 00:31:34 | |
We we made 11014 to pick it. | 00:31:43 | |
Can you tell me that again? February 25th at 4:00 PM. | 00:31:47 | |
February 20. | 00:31:52 | |
All right. | 00:31:56 | |
Oh, there, do we have anybody from the public we'd like to. | 00:31:57 | |
All right. | 00:32:04 | |
Jim will started cheering if you have any. | 00:32:05 | |
Comments, questions, or? | 00:32:07 | |
No, no, not this morning. | 00:32:09 | |
Nothing. | 00:32:11 | |
No, I'm good. | 00:32:13 | |
I have anything. | 00:32:16 | |
I don't have anything good. | 00:32:17 | |
All right, Danny, I'm good. | 00:32:19 | |
All right, in addition to. | 00:32:21 | |
That bridge incident. | 00:32:23 | |
Where we had, I mean. | 00:32:25 | |
Phenomenal to have people pick up at 9:30 at night and then show up there, you know? | 00:32:26 | |
Within an hour but. | 00:32:31 | |
I also want to commend our street department on snow removal. | 00:32:33 | |
There were a couple of this. | 00:32:37 | |
Misinformation pieces in the. | 00:32:41 | |
Paper article that went out the assault is not $85 a pound. | 00:32:43 | |
$5 a ton. | 00:32:46 | |
That's a slight difference. | 00:32:48 | |
Yes, like error there and. | 00:32:51 | |
At present, we have plenty of salt on hand. | 00:32:53 | |
They talked about is using 5000 by in 2000, but they didn't stick that we. | 00:32:56 | |
We started with about 9000 tons on hand so. | 00:33:00 | |
So. | 00:33:04 | |
We hope we don't get anymore of that magnitude because they're expensive events, but. | 00:33:05 | |
We had. | 00:33:09 | |
For the better part of three days, 24/7 we had. | 00:33:11 | |
13 trucks. We had one that that was disabled. | 00:33:15 | |
Pretty quickly into that, had to be kind of rehabbed and cannibalized for parts, but we had. | 00:33:18 | |
Basically 12 up and running 24/7 and the crews did a phenomenal job and. | 00:33:23 | |
So I think. | 00:33:30 | |
Particularly relative to some. | 00:33:31 | |
Some other areas we go primarily. | 00:33:33 | |
Good marks on that, I know. | 00:33:37 | |
People on some of the side streets, it's difficult to get everybody all at once. | 00:33:39 | |
But. | 00:33:43 | |
That was hopefully a once in a decade type snow. | 00:33:44 | |
So I want to thank them. | 00:33:48 | |
And I have nothing else, so look for a motion to adjourn. | 00:33:50 | |
Second all in favor, aye. | 00:33:53 | |
By the way, when the green lights are on. | 00:33:58 | |
And they're hot. | 00:34:01 | |
They are hot. | 00:34:03 |