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Special meeting of the Floyd County Council October 7th to order. Please stand for the pledge. 00:00:02
Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, 00:00:08
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:13
Let the record show that we have a full quorum tonight. 00:00:25
Is there anyone from the public that want to speak before we get started? 00:00:28
I have a hard stop at 6:45. 00:00:35
Just to be concerned if it went that far. Yep, sure. Gotcha. All right purposes meeting tonight is to. 00:00:39
Discuss and modify. 00:00:48
Rates for Floyd County. 00:00:51
I believe. 00:00:56
Everybody has. 00:00:58
Substantial information that we've been. 00:00:59
Discussing here for the last couple months. 00:01:02
I'm going to make a motion that the County Council. 00:01:10
Approve the .5 public safety tax. 00:01:14
That will start prior will start January 1 of 2025. 00:01:19
2nd. 00:01:27
We have a motion and a second for the public safety lit. 00:01:29
At a rate of .5. 00:01:33
Discussion. 00:01:36
Do we know we're going to generate $4.6 million from that rate? 00:01:41
For the county. 00:01:47
What? What's the $4.6 million? 00:01:50
Going to be used for. 00:01:54
Well, specifically in 2025. 00:01:59
I think we we put a lot of things on the board that we discussed for the future that are coming up. 00:02:06
And again, just from my perspective. 00:02:14
This isn't just a 2025 issue. 00:02:19
This is AI understand that, but I'd like to know what we're going to use the 4.6. 00:02:22
4 and 20. 00:02:28
I'm sorry. 00:02:29
We don't get it until 2026. 00:02:31
Yes, it is closer to 6,000,000. 00:02:35
Yeah. We're going to use it for the EMS contract that we've already signed. 00:02:39
1.3 million. 00:02:43
We're going to use it to clear some of the sheriff's budget out of the general fund. 00:02:44
Is that what you mean? No. 00:02:51
Jill, that's not on the table at this point. 00:02:58
And that was not advertised. 00:03:01
Wireless clearing thing stuff out of. 00:03:03
Sheriff's budget. 00:03:06
Because this is a public safety lift and that is permitted. 00:03:08
And so you're going to clear that out and use it for other. 00:03:13
Thanks. So we're going to have an additional $4.6 million, they said 6,000,000. 00:03:16
I'm sorry, they said the six minutes $6 million of revenue, not 4.6. 00:03:24
Oh. 00:03:30
Can you show me those numbers? I thought that the. 00:03:35
City got 6 and we got 4. 00:03:39
I think they went to the highest rate 06.4. 00:03:41
No, now the highest rate. 00:03:45
Can we have those numbers again? Yeah, I'm just about to normal. 00:03:49
OK. 00:03:52
I might be on the wrong. 00:03:55
Scenario here. 00:03:59
Yes, I'm sorry, it generates $6.4 million. 00:04:03
At a .5 break, I'm sorry. Thank you. Thank you. 00:04:08
So we're going to get an additional $6.4 million next year. 00:04:13
My question is. 00:04:18
What are we going to spend it on? 1.3 million of it will be spent on the contract. 00:04:20
For the EMS. 00:04:26
Got it. 00:04:31
We still have 5.1 million. 00:04:34
I don't think anybody has said that we're going to be spending. 00:04:37
All of those funds in 2025, we have a proposal that is going to the Commissioners. 00:04:42
For EMS service beyond 2026 that if it's implemented. 00:04:47
Will need to be wheels put in motion next year. OK so it's 4 is to put in a county wide EMS service. 00:04:53
If the camp commissioners pass it. 00:05:02
I think we're getting the cart before. 00:05:05
The horse before the cart here. 00:05:07
Cart for the horse here. 00:05:10
That's my personal feeling. 00:05:12
I am more than willing to put some new taxes in place. 00:05:14
To generate the monies that we need for the shortfalls that we have and even talk about what we might need in the future. But. 00:05:19
I do not think we're anywhere close to being. 00:05:28
Being there, I haven't seen any numbers with a plan that says what the annual cost is going to be, how many people were going to 00:05:32
hire. 00:05:36
Any any kind of budgeting? 00:05:43
So how can you put a new tax in place without understanding the forecast for the next for the next several years you also have. 00:05:45
The Parks Fund is needed $46,000. 00:05:57
I called back today. Edit is short. 00:06:01
Edit is short by I got that number and I'm more than willing to do these. Connie, absolutely. 00:06:05
I think that's what we should be talking about. 00:06:12
I've got the edit number. 00:06:16
Edit is short by 300. 00:06:19
I'm sorry 2 almost 300,000. 00:06:23
The Parks needs another maintenance person. What now? The Parks is requesting another maintenance person, 4046 thousand. I talked 00:06:31
with Matt today. 00:06:35
On top of their shortage. 00:06:40
Or is there shortage of total? 00:06:42
I don't have a shortage. 00:06:46
What Baker Chili's sent us, they did. 00:06:47
Because you were wanting to take money. 00:06:50
Health Department's levy to cover that. 00:06:54
And I might be convinced not to do that, but. 00:06:56
Right there is what we've discussed. We've already discussed this. So put numbers to it to show me how you're going to spend the 00:07:00
$6.4 million. Well, you don't want to spend 6 point. 00:07:05
Without understanding. 00:07:12
How the dollars are going to be spent in the future? 00:07:14
Just not going to happen for me. That's not fair to our constituents. That's fine. That's fine. But that is fair and we can talk 00:07:18
about it more if you want to. 00:07:22
I think it's fair to the constituents because I think this county needs to start being proactive as opposed to reactive when it 00:07:26
comes to that. So you vote to put a $500 more tax on every constituent that is making $100,000, but you don't know how you're 00:07:35
going to spend it. You haven't done your homework and you do not have a plan. 00:07:44
For the money, and I'm just being serious as I can be here. 00:07:53
If you had a plan and I could see the plan. 00:07:58
I'd be more than willing to take a look at the plan and I will be more than willing to take a look at the plan. 00:08:01
Put it, put the numbers down, Danny. It's, it's there. We're going to have to, we're going to have to pick up inmate medical. 00:08:07
We're not going to go through, we may not, we may not because there's legislation in place that may take care of that, that may 00:08:13
not in two years. 00:08:19
It's 2026 before that happens in October. 00:08:27
So we have two more years on that. 00:08:31
It is something we need to be keeping on our radar. 00:08:33
No doubt. 00:08:36
I'm just saying we're not ready. We have been reactive. 00:08:37
Long before. 00:08:42
I've been on this council. 00:08:44
And and what you want to do is do it again, you want to do a little bit of a tax this year and then you want to do another one 00:08:46
next year. If we need it, we know we're going to need it. We know it's right there. Also in the opposite position last year when 00:08:52
we wanted to put a .07 LIT in place and we wouldn't have been short this year in our general fund, have we done that and argued 00:08:58
the opposite position? 00:09:04
So because our interpretation of that state statute which has since. 00:09:11
Been worked on was not the same as your interpretation. Where's your interpretation correct? 00:09:16
It's being worked on to be changed and tightened up, but we're grandfathered in because it was so vague. You talk about that. We 00:09:23
were proactive on that and because we were proactive and we're in a better position to do that today and because we were told 00:09:29
something totally different than what you guys were told. 00:09:36
It was a little different. 00:09:43
The judicial lit was not intended for what we passed it for that. It was not the intention. And that's what we were told by the 00:09:46
bill, right? It depends on who you write, who you can ask. Exactly. And we were told something totally different than what you 00:09:51
guys were told. OK. 00:09:55
You are nowhere on that. I'm willing to put any. 00:10:02
I'm willing to talk about putting new taxes in place to cover shortfalls that we know we had and maybe even future. 00:10:07
Spending that we know and have a plan for, but right now we do not have that. 00:10:16
Sitting here today and we can come back three weeks from now and if you have the numbers, we can still get there by the end of 00:10:22
October. 00:10:26
But if we don't have the numbers, I'm not voting for it. 00:10:30
Is there any more discussion anybody else have? Yeah, I'd like to add that. 00:10:35
You know, I've looked at the the Baker Chili projections on the general fund and just at a glance here. 00:10:40
The the there is additional $500,000 that's not accounted for in the spend rate from the Community Foundation. 00:10:48
You know, they, they have, they have us estimated somewhere around the $2,000,000 deficit in the general fund. You take that away, 00:10:57
we're at 1.5. You know, we have about a $700,000 surplus in the health insurance right now. You, you add that in there, it's 00:11:02
about. 00:11:08
1.2 million in. 00:11:14
Cash. So we're about $800,000 in the whole. We're going to have about a $500,000 surplus in in cash in riverboat. You take that 00:11:16
away, we're about 300,000. 00:11:21
And if we don't spend that 98% of what's budgeted in 2025 for the general fund, if we don't, if we just, you know, with a lot of 00:11:27
department heads don't spend 100% of the budget. So if we only spend 98%, you know, that budget is gone. That's a three over 00:11:34
$300,000 cash balance there, so. 00:11:40
That's just at first glance, without even combing through and seeing anywhere in the budget how we can do what we can do more 00:11:48
before we go out and ask for something I think is quite burdensome on the taxpayer. It's it's a really big ask. 00:11:57
The vast majority are the the the majority of the public safety money would go to the city and towns that. 00:12:07
I'm sure it would benefit from it. 00:12:16
But they haven't really asked us for it. I haven't seen them here asking for it. I'm sure they would benefit from it. I haven't 00:12:18
read an e-mail, a letter, or anything endorsement of any sort from them. 00:12:25
Health department, you know, I know they need a building. 00:12:33
And from the looks of things, you know, right now they have you know, approximately a $220,000 surplus in their in their levy that 00:12:36
goes along the way to flow to bond. We have some CARES Act money we can put at that. I'll read at least the renovations of such. 00:12:43
And when it comes to EMS, that's a big topic. You guys know where I've been for years on it, studied it, been on several 00:12:51
committees of it, fire based EMS makes a lot of sense. We haven't fully discussed what that looks like in contrast to the what I 00:12:58
just learned today is, you know, a proposal. 00:13:06
For. 00:13:13
County wide EMS which is standalone. 00:13:15
It's not, you know, it's. 00:13:18
It's a standalone service. 00:13:19
That's going to be in my opinion, I've looked at the number is pretty burdensome again because it's it's higher cost. 00:13:21
You know you're going to have to duplicate some services, some training, hire people, rent. 00:13:28
Lease my own property buildings, there's just a lot of things there that still yet needs to be discussed and you've got some some 00:13:36
gel lit strings. But then again, we've got options there with, you know, moving. 00:13:44
Trans inmate transport vehicles out into a Gold Bond where we can keep. 00:13:54
Taxes flat but yet pay for those things without a burden. So I don't see where there is a need here to go to a high the highest 00:13:59
rate of the public safety. 00:14:05
You know, I just don't see it here. And I think it's I think it's too burdensome on the taxpayer to go to them and say we want, 00:14:14
you know, several $100 a year from you, but we don't know exactly. 00:14:19
What the plan is just trust that the government's going to meet that revenue demand. Yes, they will. They certainly will. 00:14:25
So. 00:14:33
There's options that they don't believe are completely vetted here. 00:14:35
I'm just not. 00:14:40
Can't support what what the motion is on the table. 00:14:42
Again, for me, it's not about just 2025, it's about. 00:14:46
Things that we know. 00:14:51
We're going to have to deal with, but you don't have a plan. 00:14:54
But you don't have a financial plan regardless to support. Can we come back in two weeks or three weeks with the financial 00:14:57
planning on the table and I intend to take a vote. 00:15:02
Yeah, I'd still like to get my points in. Yeah, I'd like a lot of points that Brad made their own. 00:15:07
Potential savings or reduction of what the projections are made it very clear. I support the EMS tax, which is my numbers show 1.4 00:15:13
million. I'll definitely support that. But as I stated the last meeting, I think we've had too many other things go on. We're not 00:15:21
making the cuts within these budgets that are necessary. We've asked the commissioners, I've came up with an analysis on employee 00:15:28
benefits that could be pulled in line with the other counties with that study we had paid all that money for. 00:15:36
Yet they won't concede and that was 3/4 of $1,000,000. They would not concede to make those cuts. 00:15:44
There's just too many other things. I mean, we passed the CCD tax last year, judicial tax last year. The property taxes have been 00:15:50
over 10% the last three years. 00:15:55
Taxpayers a big experience in what? Inflation of 19% over the last three years? 00:16:02
I just don't see the people I'm talking to. My district do not want any new taxes above and beyond what's necessary, and no one's 00:16:08
made the case to me right now, though it's necessary so. 00:16:13
Other than the 1.4 EMS tax the only that's the only thing I'm going to support up to now. 00:16:20
I will add that I think. 00:16:30
Additional revenue. 00:16:35
Is needed in the future. 00:16:38
That that's a given. 00:16:40
And I believe that if we would have. 00:16:43
As the judicial lit at the highest rate last year as presented. 00:16:46
We wouldn't be in the position that we're in today. 00:16:52
That that would, you know, account for an additional $1,000,000 um. 00:16:56
If you did just that and. 00:17:00
Looking at what I don't see as a deficit at all, that's a $3,000,000 swing right there. 00:17:03
So I think we need to sharpen a pencil and do our do our job. I will make make sure that one thing is very clear to the public. 00:17:08
And to us to make sure that. 00:17:16
The only thing that I understand that we're not meeting right now is EMS. 00:17:19
And we have funding options to do so. I want to make sure that no other public safety. 00:17:24
Projects or the Sheriff's Department, anything else is not being properly funded. 00:17:30
Right now, the way that it is in the built into the Level 3, I believe budget for 2025 is that they are fully funded for the, for 00:17:35
the, for the manpower that they requested and needed to move forward. So we're not, you know, nothing's going to get the public 00:17:41
safety isn't going to get cut or, you know, there's not going to be major needs that are not going to be met if this tax doesn't, 00:17:47
you know, go through. 00:17:54
I'll just say one more thing. 00:18:02
As well, if we bring the judicial debt up to the full .07. 00:18:05
And we bring the jail let up. 00:18:12
To the .27, which I think is the full rate we can generate another. 00:18:16
Think. Let me look at this number. Make sure I'm telling you right. 00:18:27
$4 million. 00:18:30
I think it's 3 million, three million, four million, $4 million next year. 00:18:35
It's .3, isn't it? 00:18:40
.27 point three, if we take it all the way up to the .3, we can generate another $4 million next year. 00:18:42
And that only cost our taxpayers $55.55. 00:18:51
More dollars. 00:18:58
On a $50,000 income. 00:19:00
So $100. 00:19:04
$110 on $100,000 income. 00:19:05
Whereas the tax that you all are suggesting, that's going to generate 6 point. 00:19:09
$4 million cost our taxpayers $500 more. You're swinging between incomes here. You just said $50,000 income. I know. Let's do 00:19:16
100,000, let's do 100,100. Thousand would cost if we just do the two bits. 00:19:24
That's not I I don't appreciate. 00:19:33
Well, guess what, we can't do both lids. 00:19:35
Because ones not advertised so we cannot do. I know, I know. 00:19:37
I asked three times whether that was advertised like that. 00:19:42
And I was assured that it was. 00:19:46
It was advertised for. 00:19:49
For the public meeting, but not for the other taxing districts. 00:19:50
So we can't do the jail. 00:19:56
So basically your next year? 00:20:00
Next year. 00:20:03
So all I'm saying is you're not doing the most efficient tax. 00:20:05
Strategy anyway. Well, yours is going to be less regardless because you're taking a smaller amount. You're not doing total .5. 00:20:09
You know you're doing 2 for gel lit. 00:20:17
And .03. 00:20:20
So the reason why you can do it for less money for our constituents is that we don't. 00:20:24
Have to share the judicial bet and the jail that with any of the other taxi entities versus if you do the public. 00:20:30
Safety tax, we have to share more than half of that with the other taxing entities, which I'm not saying on against, I am I'm not 00:20:40
against that as long as it's done appropriately because I think we should put the other two taxes in place first, generate more 00:20:47
money for less burden to our taxpayers. 00:20:55
It's $110.00 for for 4 million versus. 00:21:05
$500.00 for 6.4 million. 00:21:11
But included in that public safety, you've got Highlander, who's going to get half a million. 00:21:16
They can use that money. 00:21:23
You've got Georgetown that's going to get some money. You've got new Omni Township Fire that's going to get some money, and you've 00:21:26
got the city that's going to get some money, which I know that the city is looking for some additional funding for their public 00:21:31
safety so. 00:21:36
I'm not aware that the fire departments are getting. I don't think fire departments get. 00:21:42
It may be Lafayette. Yes, Lafayette. 00:21:46
Fire department is not. 00:21:49
Maybe it was Lafayette. I don't. That's been forever ago since we saw that spreadsheet. For me, there's way more flexibility in 00:21:51
the public safety community. Corrections, probation can be involved. 00:21:56
Just a lot more flexibility. 00:22:07
And you're willing to? 00:22:10
Let me do this math. 00:22:14
And you said that there's other funding mechanisms for EMS? 00:22:19
Did I say that bread? So the bread? 00:22:25
You said there's other funding mechanisms for EMS. 00:22:27
I said you. 00:22:31
There are. 00:22:32
There's other funding options. I'm not sure if I said mechanisms or am I getting to semantics, but there's funding options for 00:22:34
EMS. 00:22:37
What would those other funding options be? 00:22:47
Short term, no. Long term I'm looking to be proactive, understood, but short term? 00:22:51
There could be to fulfill the contract that's on the table now through through a lot of people don't like the word hybrid, that 00:22:58
there's a hybrid system in place. Short term you could fund that with cash. 00:23:03
But then. 00:23:10
Long term. 00:23:12
You need to work, you know, I would advocate working with the fire districts and have them put, you know, put that in the fire 00:23:13
levees. 00:23:16
Which would still fire each fire district, take care of the EMS. That's, that's, that's in there. That's the needs of EMS in their 00:23:20
territory. They're already in the EMS business now, each one of them because they do first responders. In the last data I looked 00:23:28
at, well over 50% of the runs that the fire departments do are EMS related, medical related. So you know, they need to dedicate 00:23:35
some funds to that as well. And that's an option they can do as well. But that would also cost the tax. 00:23:42
Ultimately. 00:23:50
Well, sure, the main services are for free, so if you get. 00:23:51
But that's what I'm saying, you're still going to cost the taxpayer. Either you're going to do it on the fire levy or you're going 00:23:55
to do it in a public safety tax or. 00:23:59
But it's going to be less effective, less, it's going to be more cost effective and less of a burden if you put it in the in the 00:24:04
fire levees than you are if you pass this public safety. Because again, we're not, you know, we're, we're overlooking the fact 00:24:09
that we might get $6.4 million to us to the city of New Albany gets over 7 million. 00:24:14
You know, this is a $14 million tax that's being, you know, being debated tonight. 00:24:20
We haven't. 00:24:25
Debated a $14 million tax and I can remember. 00:24:27
Ever. 00:24:30
That's a big ask and I really don't think we've done all our homework to be able to put that kind of attacks and that kind of a 00:24:32
burden and maybe we don't need the full .5, but I figured I would throw the motion out there to get it talked about because 00:24:37
there's more than just 1.4 million that's needed. 00:24:43
I mean, the health department has spent some of their money. 00:24:51
For their new building. 00:24:55
They've got. 00:24:58
Bigger needs, they've got things that are going to not no longer be funded by the state. 00:24:59
We're going to be back here next year or the year after. 00:25:07
Asking for another tax? I don't know. That is insane. 00:25:11
Wouldn't necessarily call it insane. I don't think so at all. That's just. 00:25:16
Doing the wise thing and spending the money as it as you need it. 00:25:20
And creating the revenue stream as you need it. 00:25:25
And knowing how the money is going to be spent. I mean, I guess that's the thing that bothers me the most is we. 00:25:30
Do not have a plan. 00:25:36
On how we're going to spend this money yet we're going to go ahead and 15% of it should. 00:25:40
Be kept in. 00:25:45
The fund for a just in case. I mean, isn't that what they project? You need 15%? I think you all need to come to the table with an 00:25:47
analysis of how the ticks .4 is going to be spent over the next three to five years. 00:25:53
That's what I think. 00:26:01
And if you can do that, I'm more than willing to sit here and talk about it. But. 00:26:03
Giving you this and that is not an analysis and that is not a plan, and I've given you the EMS. 00:26:07
That falls very short of a plan. 00:26:15
Well, that just, we don't get into planning over the last 10 years. We do not, you do not want to get into that. 00:26:19
I do want to get into reactive every year. 00:26:26
Been reactive. 00:26:29
Every single year, OK, and it has been clawing and scratching to make a budget meet. 00:26:31
I'm going to say that, you know. 00:26:37
I believe. 00:26:43
Part of the reason why we're in this. 00:26:44
Is obviously EMS cost us. 00:26:47
Almost 10 times what we were paying. 00:26:51
But also. 00:26:53
Because there were no raises or anything given for so many years to our employees, we took a big hit, a huge hit to get them up to 00:26:55
par. 00:27:01
And now? 00:27:08
We're trying to play catch up to pay for last year's COLA. You got this year's COLA? 00:27:10
Which is down from last year's cola. You're going to have a cola next year, hopefully and the following year. So we, you know. 00:27:17
We are playing catch up. 00:27:24
I don't disagree with anything that you just said. However, that does not that does not tell me. 00:27:26
This how the 6.4 because I think we could raise. 00:27:35
Four, $4.5 million and and cover everything that we need and that that only would include a point 1%. 00:27:40
Public safety tax. 00:27:50
Which is way different. It would only cost a tax constituent $200 a year. 00:27:54
Versus $500 a year that you're all wanting to raise, I don't and your .1 is going to get how much? 00:28:03
The .1 is going to get how much? 00:28:09
$1.4 million, that's not enough, I know, but if you put the full, if we're able to go back and put the judicial in place, which is 00:28:12
another 900,000, now we've got these 200,000. 00:28:20
Against our general fund, which is what we need right now to cover the shortfall. 00:28:28
And we're going to have to do something about the Jalen. 00:28:34
But we're probably going to have to do that next year. I don't know how early next year we can do that and still collect. 00:28:39
Part of the years. 00:28:45
I think we can still do that. 00:28:47
Maybe by or maybe by the end of the year and we collect partial starting in April. 00:28:50
I think is what it is and the public safety will not. 00:28:55
Alleviate some of the gel lit. 00:29:00
Well, of course it will, but you're paying. 00:29:02
You're taxing our. 00:29:05
Our constituents at double what you would do if you passed the jail. 00:29:09
But I guess my concern is is. 00:29:17
If you're going to text. 00:29:20
If you're going to tax the constituents anyway, why wouldn't they? 00:29:23
Also benefit. 00:29:29
You know the city is going to be taxed on an EMS or a public safety. 00:29:31
If we do an EMS, we're going to have. 00:29:38
To give the money to the city for their tax portion or under the public safety, it goes automatically to the city. 00:29:40
And that's going to help with their budget. 00:29:48
I don't understand anything you just said, but let me ask a different question. Did we ever get the tax mutual? 00:29:56
Information from page. 00:30:02
The what? 00:30:04
The the analysis that she was doing on the tax neutral option. 00:30:05
I haven't seen the final numbers on that. 00:30:10
So we're going to go ahead and we're going to go ahead and vote tonight even though we asked our consultant. 00:30:13
That was part of the comprehensive plan, along with jail lit and judicial lit and public. 00:30:19
Property tax relief to do some work. 00:30:28
We're not going to wait for the results, we're just going to go ahead and pass. 00:30:31
I think, as I just said, that was part of the comprehensive. 00:30:34
That's neutral where we were going to 0 out the property relief. 00:30:38
Lit property tax relief lit while raising the others and that was going to be a tax neutral. 00:30:44
Obviously we can't do that because the gel, it was not advertised. 00:30:50
So. 00:30:54
We've talked about past, OK. 00:30:57
Is there any further discussion on? 00:31:01
Yeah. I mean, I think you just. 00:31:03
Commented. You cleared up something that was confusing to me as far as the process of. 00:31:06
It was advocated for a scenario. 00:31:11
Of something that could have been, could have been tax neutral, but due to the process of things not being advertised, that's that 00:31:16
option no longer is available this year. 00:31:21
Or at least not in Not this month. 00:31:28
I see now and then. 00:31:31
The EMS, the county wide EMS data just came out today, earlier today, I think you emailed that out. 00:31:34
And said it's been peer reviewed so. 00:31:42
Again, information. 00:31:45
That I just got the day of the day of a vote. 00:31:48
And the Commission and the commissioners haven't even voted on how we're going to go forward. They haven't even voted. 00:31:52
How do we know they're going to vote to go County What? 00:32:01
I don't understand. We got. We got. 00:32:06
Cart way before the horse here guys. 00:32:10
We just need some more time, put some more numbers together, come back, we'll talk about them. I'm more than willing to talk 00:32:14
about. 00:32:16
All right, we have a motion in a second. 00:32:19
Is there any further discussion? 00:32:22
Show of hands all in favor. 00:32:26
All opposed. 00:32:30
That carries. 00:32:32
Any input from the public before we? 00:32:34
Adjourn we do. We'll take a second vote at our regular meeting next Thursday evening. 00:32:39
Wednesday evening. Sorry, next Wednesday evening. 00:32:48
If there's no public if there's no public, a motion to adjourn. 00:32:55
2nd. 00:32:59
We are adjourned. 00:33:01
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Event transcript
Special meeting of the Floyd County Council October 7th to order. Please stand for the pledge. 00:00:02
Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, 00:00:08
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:13
Let the record show that we have a full quorum tonight. 00:00:25
Is there anyone from the public that want to speak before we get started? 00:00:28
I have a hard stop at 6:45. 00:00:35
Just to be concerned if it went that far. Yep, sure. Gotcha. All right purposes meeting tonight is to. 00:00:39
Discuss and modify. 00:00:48
Rates for Floyd County. 00:00:51
I believe. 00:00:56
Everybody has. 00:00:58
Substantial information that we've been. 00:00:59
Discussing here for the last couple months. 00:01:02
I'm going to make a motion that the County Council. 00:01:10
Approve the .5 public safety tax. 00:01:14
That will start prior will start January 1 of 2025. 00:01:19
2nd. 00:01:27
We have a motion and a second for the public safety lit. 00:01:29
At a rate of .5. 00:01:33
Discussion. 00:01:36
Do we know we're going to generate $4.6 million from that rate? 00:01:41
For the county. 00:01:47
What? What's the $4.6 million? 00:01:50
Going to be used for. 00:01:54
Well, specifically in 2025. 00:01:59
I think we we put a lot of things on the board that we discussed for the future that are coming up. 00:02:06
And again, just from my perspective. 00:02:14
This isn't just a 2025 issue. 00:02:19
This is AI understand that, but I'd like to know what we're going to use the 4.6. 00:02:22
4 and 20. 00:02:28
I'm sorry. 00:02:29
We don't get it until 2026. 00:02:31
Yes, it is closer to 6,000,000. 00:02:35
Yeah. We're going to use it for the EMS contract that we've already signed. 00:02:39
1.3 million. 00:02:43
We're going to use it to clear some of the sheriff's budget out of the general fund. 00:02:44
Is that what you mean? No. 00:02:51
Jill, that's not on the table at this point. 00:02:58
And that was not advertised. 00:03:01
Wireless clearing thing stuff out of. 00:03:03
Sheriff's budget. 00:03:06
Because this is a public safety lift and that is permitted. 00:03:08
And so you're going to clear that out and use it for other. 00:03:13
Thanks. So we're going to have an additional $4.6 million, they said 6,000,000. 00:03:16
I'm sorry, they said the six minutes $6 million of revenue, not 4.6. 00:03:24
Oh. 00:03:30
Can you show me those numbers? I thought that the. 00:03:35
City got 6 and we got 4. 00:03:39
I think they went to the highest rate 06.4. 00:03:41
No, now the highest rate. 00:03:45
Can we have those numbers again? Yeah, I'm just about to normal. 00:03:49
OK. 00:03:52
I might be on the wrong. 00:03:55
Scenario here. 00:03:59
Yes, I'm sorry, it generates $6.4 million. 00:04:03
At a .5 break, I'm sorry. Thank you. Thank you. 00:04:08
So we're going to get an additional $6.4 million next year. 00:04:13
My question is. 00:04:18
What are we going to spend it on? 1.3 million of it will be spent on the contract. 00:04:20
For the EMS. 00:04:26
Got it. 00:04:31
We still have 5.1 million. 00:04:34
I don't think anybody has said that we're going to be spending. 00:04:37
All of those funds in 2025, we have a proposal that is going to the Commissioners. 00:04:42
For EMS service beyond 2026 that if it's implemented. 00:04:47
Will need to be wheels put in motion next year. OK so it's 4 is to put in a county wide EMS service. 00:04:53
If the camp commissioners pass it. 00:05:02
I think we're getting the cart before. 00:05:05
The horse before the cart here. 00:05:07
Cart for the horse here. 00:05:10
That's my personal feeling. 00:05:12
I am more than willing to put some new taxes in place. 00:05:14
To generate the monies that we need for the shortfalls that we have and even talk about what we might need in the future. But. 00:05:19
I do not think we're anywhere close to being. 00:05:28
Being there, I haven't seen any numbers with a plan that says what the annual cost is going to be, how many people were going to 00:05:32
hire. 00:05:36
Any any kind of budgeting? 00:05:43
So how can you put a new tax in place without understanding the forecast for the next for the next several years you also have. 00:05:45
The Parks Fund is needed $46,000. 00:05:57
I called back today. Edit is short. 00:06:01
Edit is short by I got that number and I'm more than willing to do these. Connie, absolutely. 00:06:05
I think that's what we should be talking about. 00:06:12
I've got the edit number. 00:06:16
Edit is short by 300. 00:06:19
I'm sorry 2 almost 300,000. 00:06:23
The Parks needs another maintenance person. What now? The Parks is requesting another maintenance person, 4046 thousand. I talked 00:06:31
with Matt today. 00:06:35
On top of their shortage. 00:06:40
Or is there shortage of total? 00:06:42
I don't have a shortage. 00:06:46
What Baker Chili's sent us, they did. 00:06:47
Because you were wanting to take money. 00:06:50
Health Department's levy to cover that. 00:06:54
And I might be convinced not to do that, but. 00:06:56
Right there is what we've discussed. We've already discussed this. So put numbers to it to show me how you're going to spend the 00:07:00
$6.4 million. Well, you don't want to spend 6 point. 00:07:05
Without understanding. 00:07:12
How the dollars are going to be spent in the future? 00:07:14
Just not going to happen for me. That's not fair to our constituents. That's fine. That's fine. But that is fair and we can talk 00:07:18
about it more if you want to. 00:07:22
I think it's fair to the constituents because I think this county needs to start being proactive as opposed to reactive when it 00:07:26
comes to that. So you vote to put a $500 more tax on every constituent that is making $100,000, but you don't know how you're 00:07:35
going to spend it. You haven't done your homework and you do not have a plan. 00:07:44
For the money, and I'm just being serious as I can be here. 00:07:53
If you had a plan and I could see the plan. 00:07:58
I'd be more than willing to take a look at the plan and I will be more than willing to take a look at the plan. 00:08:01
Put it, put the numbers down, Danny. It's, it's there. We're going to have to, we're going to have to pick up inmate medical. 00:08:07
We're not going to go through, we may not, we may not because there's legislation in place that may take care of that, that may 00:08:13
not in two years. 00:08:19
It's 2026 before that happens in October. 00:08:27
So we have two more years on that. 00:08:31
It is something we need to be keeping on our radar. 00:08:33
No doubt. 00:08:36
I'm just saying we're not ready. We have been reactive. 00:08:37
Long before. 00:08:42
I've been on this council. 00:08:44
And and what you want to do is do it again, you want to do a little bit of a tax this year and then you want to do another one 00:08:46
next year. If we need it, we know we're going to need it. We know it's right there. Also in the opposite position last year when 00:08:52
we wanted to put a .07 LIT in place and we wouldn't have been short this year in our general fund, have we done that and argued 00:08:58
the opposite position? 00:09:04
So because our interpretation of that state statute which has since. 00:09:11
Been worked on was not the same as your interpretation. Where's your interpretation correct? 00:09:16
It's being worked on to be changed and tightened up, but we're grandfathered in because it was so vague. You talk about that. We 00:09:23
were proactive on that and because we were proactive and we're in a better position to do that today and because we were told 00:09:29
something totally different than what you guys were told. 00:09:36
It was a little different. 00:09:43
The judicial lit was not intended for what we passed it for that. It was not the intention. And that's what we were told by the 00:09:46
bill, right? It depends on who you write, who you can ask. Exactly. And we were told something totally different than what you 00:09:51
guys were told. OK. 00:09:55
You are nowhere on that. I'm willing to put any. 00:10:02
I'm willing to talk about putting new taxes in place to cover shortfalls that we know we had and maybe even future. 00:10:07
Spending that we know and have a plan for, but right now we do not have that. 00:10:16
Sitting here today and we can come back three weeks from now and if you have the numbers, we can still get there by the end of 00:10:22
October. 00:10:26
But if we don't have the numbers, I'm not voting for it. 00:10:30
Is there any more discussion anybody else have? Yeah, I'd like to add that. 00:10:35
You know, I've looked at the the Baker Chili projections on the general fund and just at a glance here. 00:10:40
The the there is additional $500,000 that's not accounted for in the spend rate from the Community Foundation. 00:10:48
You know, they, they have, they have us estimated somewhere around the $2,000,000 deficit in the general fund. You take that away, 00:10:57
we're at 1.5. You know, we have about a $700,000 surplus in the health insurance right now. You, you add that in there, it's 00:11:02
about. 00:11:08
1.2 million in. 00:11:14
Cash. So we're about $800,000 in the whole. We're going to have about a $500,000 surplus in in cash in riverboat. You take that 00:11:16
away, we're about 300,000. 00:11:21
And if we don't spend that 98% of what's budgeted in 2025 for the general fund, if we don't, if we just, you know, with a lot of 00:11:27
department heads don't spend 100% of the budget. So if we only spend 98%, you know, that budget is gone. That's a three over 00:11:34
$300,000 cash balance there, so. 00:11:40
That's just at first glance, without even combing through and seeing anywhere in the budget how we can do what we can do more 00:11:48
before we go out and ask for something I think is quite burdensome on the taxpayer. It's it's a really big ask. 00:11:57
The vast majority are the the the majority of the public safety money would go to the city and towns that. 00:12:07
I'm sure it would benefit from it. 00:12:16
But they haven't really asked us for it. I haven't seen them here asking for it. I'm sure they would benefit from it. I haven't 00:12:18
read an e-mail, a letter, or anything endorsement of any sort from them. 00:12:25
Health department, you know, I know they need a building. 00:12:33
And from the looks of things, you know, right now they have you know, approximately a $220,000 surplus in their in their levy that 00:12:36
goes along the way to flow to bond. We have some CARES Act money we can put at that. I'll read at least the renovations of such. 00:12:43
And when it comes to EMS, that's a big topic. You guys know where I've been for years on it, studied it, been on several 00:12:51
committees of it, fire based EMS makes a lot of sense. We haven't fully discussed what that looks like in contrast to the what I 00:12:58
just learned today is, you know, a proposal. 00:13:06
For. 00:13:13
County wide EMS which is standalone. 00:13:15
It's not, you know, it's. 00:13:18
It's a standalone service. 00:13:19
That's going to be in my opinion, I've looked at the number is pretty burdensome again because it's it's higher cost. 00:13:21
You know you're going to have to duplicate some services, some training, hire people, rent. 00:13:28
Lease my own property buildings, there's just a lot of things there that still yet needs to be discussed and you've got some some 00:13:36
gel lit strings. But then again, we've got options there with, you know, moving. 00:13:44
Trans inmate transport vehicles out into a Gold Bond where we can keep. 00:13:54
Taxes flat but yet pay for those things without a burden. So I don't see where there is a need here to go to a high the highest 00:13:59
rate of the public safety. 00:14:05
You know, I just don't see it here. And I think it's I think it's too burdensome on the taxpayer to go to them and say we want, 00:14:14
you know, several $100 a year from you, but we don't know exactly. 00:14:19
What the plan is just trust that the government's going to meet that revenue demand. Yes, they will. They certainly will. 00:14:25
So. 00:14:33
There's options that they don't believe are completely vetted here. 00:14:35
I'm just not. 00:14:40
Can't support what what the motion is on the table. 00:14:42
Again, for me, it's not about just 2025, it's about. 00:14:46
Things that we know. 00:14:51
We're going to have to deal with, but you don't have a plan. 00:14:54
But you don't have a financial plan regardless to support. Can we come back in two weeks or three weeks with the financial 00:14:57
planning on the table and I intend to take a vote. 00:15:02
Yeah, I'd still like to get my points in. Yeah, I'd like a lot of points that Brad made their own. 00:15:07
Potential savings or reduction of what the projections are made it very clear. I support the EMS tax, which is my numbers show 1.4 00:15:13
million. I'll definitely support that. But as I stated the last meeting, I think we've had too many other things go on. We're not 00:15:21
making the cuts within these budgets that are necessary. We've asked the commissioners, I've came up with an analysis on employee 00:15:28
benefits that could be pulled in line with the other counties with that study we had paid all that money for. 00:15:36
Yet they won't concede and that was 3/4 of $1,000,000. They would not concede to make those cuts. 00:15:44
There's just too many other things. I mean, we passed the CCD tax last year, judicial tax last year. The property taxes have been 00:15:50
over 10% the last three years. 00:15:55
Taxpayers a big experience in what? Inflation of 19% over the last three years? 00:16:02
I just don't see the people I'm talking to. My district do not want any new taxes above and beyond what's necessary, and no one's 00:16:08
made the case to me right now, though it's necessary so. 00:16:13
Other than the 1.4 EMS tax the only that's the only thing I'm going to support up to now. 00:16:20
I will add that I think. 00:16:30
Additional revenue. 00:16:35
Is needed in the future. 00:16:38
That that's a given. 00:16:40
And I believe that if we would have. 00:16:43
As the judicial lit at the highest rate last year as presented. 00:16:46
We wouldn't be in the position that we're in today. 00:16:52
That that would, you know, account for an additional $1,000,000 um. 00:16:56
If you did just that and. 00:17:00
Looking at what I don't see as a deficit at all, that's a $3,000,000 swing right there. 00:17:03
So I think we need to sharpen a pencil and do our do our job. I will make make sure that one thing is very clear to the public. 00:17:08
And to us to make sure that. 00:17:16
The only thing that I understand that we're not meeting right now is EMS. 00:17:19
And we have funding options to do so. I want to make sure that no other public safety. 00:17:24
Projects or the Sheriff's Department, anything else is not being properly funded. 00:17:30
Right now, the way that it is in the built into the Level 3, I believe budget for 2025 is that they are fully funded for the, for 00:17:35
the, for the manpower that they requested and needed to move forward. So we're not, you know, nothing's going to get the public 00:17:41
safety isn't going to get cut or, you know, there's not going to be major needs that are not going to be met if this tax doesn't, 00:17:47
you know, go through. 00:17:54
I'll just say one more thing. 00:18:02
As well, if we bring the judicial debt up to the full .07. 00:18:05
And we bring the jail let up. 00:18:12
To the .27, which I think is the full rate we can generate another. 00:18:16
Think. Let me look at this number. Make sure I'm telling you right. 00:18:27
$4 million. 00:18:30
I think it's 3 million, three million, four million, $4 million next year. 00:18:35
It's .3, isn't it? 00:18:40
.27 point three, if we take it all the way up to the .3, we can generate another $4 million next year. 00:18:42
And that only cost our taxpayers $55.55. 00:18:51
More dollars. 00:18:58
On a $50,000 income. 00:19:00
So $100. 00:19:04
$110 on $100,000 income. 00:19:05
Whereas the tax that you all are suggesting, that's going to generate 6 point. 00:19:09
$4 million cost our taxpayers $500 more. You're swinging between incomes here. You just said $50,000 income. I know. Let's do 00:19:16
100,000, let's do 100,100. Thousand would cost if we just do the two bits. 00:19:24
That's not I I don't appreciate. 00:19:33
Well, guess what, we can't do both lids. 00:19:35
Because ones not advertised so we cannot do. I know, I know. 00:19:37
I asked three times whether that was advertised like that. 00:19:42
And I was assured that it was. 00:19:46
It was advertised for. 00:19:49
For the public meeting, but not for the other taxing districts. 00:19:50
So we can't do the jail. 00:19:56
So basically your next year? 00:20:00
Next year. 00:20:03
So all I'm saying is you're not doing the most efficient tax. 00:20:05
Strategy anyway. Well, yours is going to be less regardless because you're taking a smaller amount. You're not doing total .5. 00:20:09
You know you're doing 2 for gel lit. 00:20:17
And .03. 00:20:20
So the reason why you can do it for less money for our constituents is that we don't. 00:20:24
Have to share the judicial bet and the jail that with any of the other taxi entities versus if you do the public. 00:20:30
Safety tax, we have to share more than half of that with the other taxing entities, which I'm not saying on against, I am I'm not 00:20:40
against that as long as it's done appropriately because I think we should put the other two taxes in place first, generate more 00:20:47
money for less burden to our taxpayers. 00:20:55
It's $110.00 for for 4 million versus. 00:21:05
$500.00 for 6.4 million. 00:21:11
But included in that public safety, you've got Highlander, who's going to get half a million. 00:21:16
They can use that money. 00:21:23
You've got Georgetown that's going to get some money. You've got new Omni Township Fire that's going to get some money, and you've 00:21:26
got the city that's going to get some money, which I know that the city is looking for some additional funding for their public 00:21:31
safety so. 00:21:36
I'm not aware that the fire departments are getting. I don't think fire departments get. 00:21:42
It may be Lafayette. Yes, Lafayette. 00:21:46
Fire department is not. 00:21:49
Maybe it was Lafayette. I don't. That's been forever ago since we saw that spreadsheet. For me, there's way more flexibility in 00:21:51
the public safety community. Corrections, probation can be involved. 00:21:56
Just a lot more flexibility. 00:22:07
And you're willing to? 00:22:10
Let me do this math. 00:22:14
And you said that there's other funding mechanisms for EMS? 00:22:19
Did I say that bread? So the bread? 00:22:25
You said there's other funding mechanisms for EMS. 00:22:27
I said you. 00:22:31
There are. 00:22:32
There's other funding options. I'm not sure if I said mechanisms or am I getting to semantics, but there's funding options for 00:22:34
EMS. 00:22:37
What would those other funding options be? 00:22:47
Short term, no. Long term I'm looking to be proactive, understood, but short term? 00:22:51
There could be to fulfill the contract that's on the table now through through a lot of people don't like the word hybrid, that 00:22:58
there's a hybrid system in place. Short term you could fund that with cash. 00:23:03
But then. 00:23:10
Long term. 00:23:12
You need to work, you know, I would advocate working with the fire districts and have them put, you know, put that in the fire 00:23:13
levees. 00:23:16
Which would still fire each fire district, take care of the EMS. That's, that's, that's in there. That's the needs of EMS in their 00:23:20
territory. They're already in the EMS business now, each one of them because they do first responders. In the last data I looked 00:23:28
at, well over 50% of the runs that the fire departments do are EMS related, medical related. So you know, they need to dedicate 00:23:35
some funds to that as well. And that's an option they can do as well. But that would also cost the tax. 00:23:42
Ultimately. 00:23:50
Well, sure, the main services are for free, so if you get. 00:23:51
But that's what I'm saying, you're still going to cost the taxpayer. Either you're going to do it on the fire levy or you're going 00:23:55
to do it in a public safety tax or. 00:23:59
But it's going to be less effective, less, it's going to be more cost effective and less of a burden if you put it in the in the 00:24:04
fire levees than you are if you pass this public safety. Because again, we're not, you know, we're, we're overlooking the fact 00:24:09
that we might get $6.4 million to us to the city of New Albany gets over 7 million. 00:24:14
You know, this is a $14 million tax that's being, you know, being debated tonight. 00:24:20
We haven't. 00:24:25
Debated a $14 million tax and I can remember. 00:24:27
Ever. 00:24:30
That's a big ask and I really don't think we've done all our homework to be able to put that kind of attacks and that kind of a 00:24:32
burden and maybe we don't need the full .5, but I figured I would throw the motion out there to get it talked about because 00:24:37
there's more than just 1.4 million that's needed. 00:24:43
I mean, the health department has spent some of their money. 00:24:51
For their new building. 00:24:55
They've got. 00:24:58
Bigger needs, they've got things that are going to not no longer be funded by the state. 00:24:59
We're going to be back here next year or the year after. 00:25:07
Asking for another tax? I don't know. That is insane. 00:25:11
Wouldn't necessarily call it insane. I don't think so at all. That's just. 00:25:16
Doing the wise thing and spending the money as it as you need it. 00:25:20
And creating the revenue stream as you need it. 00:25:25
And knowing how the money is going to be spent. I mean, I guess that's the thing that bothers me the most is we. 00:25:30
Do not have a plan. 00:25:36
On how we're going to spend this money yet we're going to go ahead and 15% of it should. 00:25:40
Be kept in. 00:25:45
The fund for a just in case. I mean, isn't that what they project? You need 15%? I think you all need to come to the table with an 00:25:47
analysis of how the ticks .4 is going to be spent over the next three to five years. 00:25:53
That's what I think. 00:26:01
And if you can do that, I'm more than willing to sit here and talk about it. But. 00:26:03
Giving you this and that is not an analysis and that is not a plan, and I've given you the EMS. 00:26:07
That falls very short of a plan. 00:26:15
Well, that just, we don't get into planning over the last 10 years. We do not, you do not want to get into that. 00:26:19
I do want to get into reactive every year. 00:26:26
Been reactive. 00:26:29
Every single year, OK, and it has been clawing and scratching to make a budget meet. 00:26:31
I'm going to say that, you know. 00:26:37
I believe. 00:26:43
Part of the reason why we're in this. 00:26:44
Is obviously EMS cost us. 00:26:47
Almost 10 times what we were paying. 00:26:51
But also. 00:26:53
Because there were no raises or anything given for so many years to our employees, we took a big hit, a huge hit to get them up to 00:26:55
par. 00:27:01
And now? 00:27:08
We're trying to play catch up to pay for last year's COLA. You got this year's COLA? 00:27:10
Which is down from last year's cola. You're going to have a cola next year, hopefully and the following year. So we, you know. 00:27:17
We are playing catch up. 00:27:24
I don't disagree with anything that you just said. However, that does not that does not tell me. 00:27:26
This how the 6.4 because I think we could raise. 00:27:35
Four, $4.5 million and and cover everything that we need and that that only would include a point 1%. 00:27:40
Public safety tax. 00:27:50
Which is way different. It would only cost a tax constituent $200 a year. 00:27:54
Versus $500 a year that you're all wanting to raise, I don't and your .1 is going to get how much? 00:28:03
The .1 is going to get how much? 00:28:09
$1.4 million, that's not enough, I know, but if you put the full, if we're able to go back and put the judicial in place, which is 00:28:12
another 900,000, now we've got these 200,000. 00:28:20
Against our general fund, which is what we need right now to cover the shortfall. 00:28:28
And we're going to have to do something about the Jalen. 00:28:34
But we're probably going to have to do that next year. I don't know how early next year we can do that and still collect. 00:28:39
Part of the years. 00:28:45
I think we can still do that. 00:28:47
Maybe by or maybe by the end of the year and we collect partial starting in April. 00:28:50
I think is what it is and the public safety will not. 00:28:55
Alleviate some of the gel lit. 00:29:00
Well, of course it will, but you're paying. 00:29:02
You're taxing our. 00:29:05
Our constituents at double what you would do if you passed the jail. 00:29:09
But I guess my concern is is. 00:29:17
If you're going to text. 00:29:20
If you're going to tax the constituents anyway, why wouldn't they? 00:29:23
Also benefit. 00:29:29
You know the city is going to be taxed on an EMS or a public safety. 00:29:31
If we do an EMS, we're going to have. 00:29:38
To give the money to the city for their tax portion or under the public safety, it goes automatically to the city. 00:29:40
And that's going to help with their budget. 00:29:48
I don't understand anything you just said, but let me ask a different question. Did we ever get the tax mutual? 00:29:56
Information from page. 00:30:02
The what? 00:30:04
The the analysis that she was doing on the tax neutral option. 00:30:05
I haven't seen the final numbers on that. 00:30:10
So we're going to go ahead and we're going to go ahead and vote tonight even though we asked our consultant. 00:30:13
That was part of the comprehensive plan, along with jail lit and judicial lit and public. 00:30:19
Property tax relief to do some work. 00:30:28
We're not going to wait for the results, we're just going to go ahead and pass. 00:30:31
I think, as I just said, that was part of the comprehensive. 00:30:34
That's neutral where we were going to 0 out the property relief. 00:30:38
Lit property tax relief lit while raising the others and that was going to be a tax neutral. 00:30:44
Obviously we can't do that because the gel, it was not advertised. 00:30:50
So. 00:30:54
We've talked about past, OK. 00:30:57
Is there any further discussion on? 00:31:01
Yeah. I mean, I think you just. 00:31:03
Commented. You cleared up something that was confusing to me as far as the process of. 00:31:06
It was advocated for a scenario. 00:31:11
Of something that could have been, could have been tax neutral, but due to the process of things not being advertised, that's that 00:31:16
option no longer is available this year. 00:31:21
Or at least not in Not this month. 00:31:28
I see now and then. 00:31:31
The EMS, the county wide EMS data just came out today, earlier today, I think you emailed that out. 00:31:34
And said it's been peer reviewed so. 00:31:42
Again, information. 00:31:45
That I just got the day of the day of a vote. 00:31:48
And the Commission and the commissioners haven't even voted on how we're going to go forward. They haven't even voted. 00:31:52
How do we know they're going to vote to go County What? 00:32:01
I don't understand. We got. We got. 00:32:06
Cart way before the horse here guys. 00:32:10
We just need some more time, put some more numbers together, come back, we'll talk about them. I'm more than willing to talk 00:32:14
about. 00:32:16
All right, we have a motion in a second. 00:32:19
Is there any further discussion? 00:32:22
Show of hands all in favor. 00:32:26
All opposed. 00:32:30
That carries. 00:32:32
Any input from the public before we? 00:32:34
Adjourn we do. We'll take a second vote at our regular meeting next Thursday evening. 00:32:39
Wednesday evening. Sorry, next Wednesday evening. 00:32:48
If there's no public if there's no public, a motion to adjourn. 00:32:55
2nd. 00:32:59
We are adjourned. 00:33:01