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On the other side or whatever. 2024-11-04 16:28:49
I don't know. 2024-11-04 16:29:01
See the booster. 2024-11-04 16:29:04
But. 2024-11-04 16:29:10
Yeah. 2024-11-04 16:29:49
#8 in the polls. 2024-11-04 16:29:55
Today, how have they ever been that happened? 2024-11-04 16:29:58
Oh wow. 2024-11-04 16:30:01
It's been a minute. Yeah, OK. 2024-11-04 16:30:04
Hey. 2024-11-04 16:30:07
I want to call our stormwater meeting for. 2024-11-04 16:30:10
4th Order Please stand for the pledge. 2024-11-04 16:30:13
I pledge allegiance to. 2024-11-04 16:30:16
The United States of America. 2024-11-04 16:30:19
Individual liquidity. 2024-11-04 16:30:25
Thank you all for coming. Appreciate. 2024-11-04 16:30:29
Time coming first. 2024-11-04 16:30:31
On the agenda is the approval. 2024-11-04 16:30:34
Of our September 24, 2024 B. 2024-11-04 16:30:37
Move to approve and I'll second. 2024-11-04 16:30:40
Motion, Jason. Second, any discussion on favor? 2024-11-04 16:30:44
Aye, aye. OK, that motion carries. 2024-11-04 16:30:47
Old business erosion. 2024-11-04 16:30:49
Just want to give you an update on what's going on. 2024-11-04 16:30:59
Erosion control. If you notice in your packet, you don't. 2024-11-04 16:31:01
The guy that was doing the road control. 2024-11-04 16:31:08
For the county, his name is Frank Walden. He resigned. 2024-11-04 16:31:11
In the last month and so. 2024-11-04 16:31:13
He was able to complete the inspection. 2024-11-04 16:31:17
Didn't have enough time to do the. 2024-11-04 16:31:20
Summary report right, There is no summary, but we do have. 2024-11-04 16:31:23
All the infections so that makes. 2024-11-04 16:31:26
The in-house inspectors that we had the. 2024-11-04 16:31:29
VIP and the planning. 2024-11-04 16:31:32
Both have left in the past. 2024-11-04 16:31:34
Three months, so we about. 2024-11-04 16:31:38
Her engineering Who has? 2024-11-04 16:31:41
In the past to step up so. 2024-11-04 16:31:44
Remember, Heritage is going to take it back over and. 2024-11-04 16:31:47
Right. 2024-11-04 16:31:50
So I have no problem with heritage. 2024-11-04 16:31:53
They did such a great job in the past, they actually helped train. 2024-11-04 16:31:56
The inspectors that we have in house so. 2024-11-04 16:31:59
That's why you don't have a summary report for. 2024-11-04 16:32:02
October. But they will. 2024-11-04 16:32:05
Be going out here pretty soon to do in November. 2024-11-04 16:32:08
Very important for November after December. 2024-11-04 16:32:11
Is there anything else standing on that report? 2024-11-04 16:32:14
I think we had that one couple days. 2024-11-04 16:32:17
You know, tremendous rain and all. 2024-11-04 16:32:20
Fact, there was some. 2024-11-04 16:32:23
You know, the first part of October was really wet. 2024-11-04 16:32:26
With that monsoon rain we had in September. 2024-11-04 16:32:29
Some of the sites were still and kind of. 2024-11-04 16:32:32
In bad shape because of that, but then. 2024-11-04 16:32:35
Cobra has been a fairly dry month, right? There's been no. 2024-11-04 16:32:38
Playing through anyone through. 2024-11-04 16:32:41
Anything like that, It was about any of those control issues. 2024-11-04 16:32:44
Hopefully they've got no taken care of and every. 2024-11-04 16:32:47
OK. All right. Thank you. 2024-11-04 16:32:50
I have a question and you may not know this. 2024-11-04 16:32:53
Top of your head, but cost comparison between. 2024-11-04 16:32:56
Having Heritage continue to do that versus having. 2024-11-04 16:32:59
Someone in house do it. 2024-11-04 16:33:01
Heritages of. 2024-11-04 16:33:04
You know, so it's not exactly what to do. 2024-11-04 16:33:08
Save up. 2024-11-04 16:33:11
Money as accounting to have. 2024-11-04 16:33:14
Done by people that are already doing some other jobs with. 2024-11-04 16:33:17
Boyd County, Is it the EIC? 2024-11-04 16:33:20
OK. But we're not looking at. 2024-11-04 16:33:23
It's not a full time position to have someone. 2024-11-04 16:33:26
Doing that or well, it used to be, you know, just. 2024-11-04 16:33:29
Speaking honestly, it used to be a full time position, Kevin. 2024-11-04 16:33:32
Better with the urban special. 2024-11-04 16:33:35
Jade and then we had a Rihanna with. 2024-11-04 16:33:38
So it is a full time position but. 2024-11-04 16:33:41
There needed to be an EIT and. 2024-11-04 16:33:44
Planning tech so we split the job up before. 2024-11-04 16:33:47
Two people that we like at some point. 2024-11-04 16:33:50
My opinion to bring it back in houses of one person. 2024-11-04 16:33:53
Same sexy, same like eit. 2024-11-04 16:33:56
Yeah, it sounds like it's covered in the short. 2024-11-04 16:33:59
It's a good opportunity maybe to look at the cup. 2024-11-04 16:34:02
Comparison between the two, you know so. 2024-11-04 16:34:05
OK. Yeah, it started in. 2024-11-04 16:34:11
Stolen water several years back and then grad. 2024-11-04 16:34:14
People laughed at migrated up. 2024-11-04 16:34:17
To be up stormwater, yeah. 2024-11-04 16:34:20
OK, Berta Sweep. 2024-11-04 16:34:23
It just gives you a quick update about river. 2024-11-04 16:34:26
That was part of our stormwater awareness. 2024-11-04 16:34:29
Had a meeting since then so I just wanted to give you a smaller date. 2024-11-04 16:34:32
We had about 68 people throw up to the waterfront. 2024-11-04 16:34:35
On September the 4th. 2024-11-04 16:34:38
OK, we have a. 2024-11-04 16:34:41
Some people from IUS and we had people from. 2024-11-04 16:34:44
New Albany high school show up it was a. 2024-11-04 16:34:47
Great day, get really down low to the. 2024-11-04 16:34:50
Rocks and everything else I do believe a. 2024-11-04 16:34:53
People from Ohm were there and. 2024-11-04 16:34:56
And everything else delay it helps existed nothing. 2024-11-04 16:34:59
The river cleanup we got about a. 2024-11-04 16:35:02
5 yard. 2024-11-04 16:35:05
By 5 yard dumpster about halfway through. 2024-11-04 16:35:08
With debris and stuff they sold up about fish. 2024-11-04 16:35:11
Tires. Here's the thing that. 2024-11-04 16:35:14
Which is a good thing is every time we go. 2024-11-04 16:35:17
Down there, yes, there's trash to pick up and it's becoming less. 2024-11-04 16:35:20
So either. 2024-11-04 16:35:23
Rising enough to bring the track down or? 2024-11-04 16:35:26
Is actually getting out, but you know they would protect our waterway. 2024-11-04 16:35:29
Good deal. 2024-11-04 16:35:32
You guys have nothing to do. 2024-11-04 16:35:32
OK. Thanks for it. 2024-11-04 16:35:35
Next to new business is the meeting. 2024-11-04 16:35:38
Date for 2025. 2024-11-04 16:35:41
There is a calendar. 2024-11-04 16:35:44
Dates of the Commissioners meeting. 2024-11-04 16:35:47
Stormwater has historically been the. 2024-11-04 16:35:50
First before the 1st. 2024-11-04 16:35:53
Meeting of every month when there was that. 2024-11-04 16:35:56
Fall just like this month, November, so. 2024-11-04 16:35:59
Monday. 2024-11-04 16:36:02
Of the first Commissioner meeting. 2024-11-04 16:36:05
Wanted to make sure that the stormwater board was OK. 2024-11-04 16:36:08
With having the meetings at the same time. 2024-11-04 16:36:12
Each month, so we would need a. 2024-11-04 16:36:14
By the Storm Water Board. Continue on. 2024-11-04 16:36:18
To be the first Tuesday, yes, OK. 2024-11-04 16:36:20
Move to approve one second. 2024-11-04 16:36:23
Allied Emotion, Jason. Second, any discussion? 2024-11-04 16:36:27
All in favor, aye aye, motion carries. 2024-11-04 16:36:30
OK, ordinance update. 2024-11-04 16:36:32
Ohm. 2024-11-04 16:36:36
Good afternoon. My name is Katie Cunningham and. 2024-11-04 16:36:45
I'm an EIT with advisors I've done. 2024-11-04 16:36:47
Quite a bit of the work on this ordinance. 2024-11-04 16:36:51
So previously in the September meeting, we presented to all with. 2024-11-04 16:36:54
A version based off the Purdue LSAP. 2024-11-04 16:36:57
But what a lot of communities in the state are using but they have to work in. 2024-11-04 16:37:00
With Chris. 2024-11-04 16:37:03
More effective approach would be to go with throat. 2024-11-04 16:37:06
Advising Floyd County existing ordinance because. 2024-11-04 16:37:09
President indicated that that it worked. 2024-11-04 16:37:12
Well, there were just a couple things to be clarified or added so. 2024-11-04 16:37:15
I believe each one of you should have an overview of changes she. 2024-11-04 16:37:18
Wind gear. 2024-11-04 16:37:21
And I kind of filled it out to give you what. 2024-11-04 16:37:24
Is what are the major things that are changing in this robot? 2024-11-04 16:37:27
So most of these changes. 2024-11-04 16:37:30
Such as what is an exemption and Atlanta. 2024-11-04 16:37:33
Service calculation is required to be in there. 2024-11-04 16:37:36
In the new construction stormwater general permit. 2024-11-04 16:37:39
That I've been issued in 2021. 2024-11-04 16:37:42
And I would say one of the bigger changes is in the. 2024-11-04 16:37:45
One section 1.8, point 17, the notice of. 2024-11-04 16:37:48
Buffer. That buffer was increased. 2024-11-04 16:37:51
25 feet to 50 feet and that is something that. 2024-11-04 16:37:54
Item requires now, but that'll be one of the biggest. 2024-11-04 16:37:57
And then also the fees were updated. 2024-11-04 16:38:00
Kind of creating that fee structure based off the document. 2024-11-04 16:38:03
By the storm water board and. 2024-11-04 16:38:06
And then some. 2024-11-04 16:38:09
Discharges were added. Most of the discharges are already in that ordinance. 2024-11-04 16:38:12
That is existing, but these are some more required ordinance. 2024-11-04 16:38:15
Or required discharge. 2024-11-04 16:38:18
Probably after any questions if you don't have any. 2024-11-04 16:38:21
You mentioned that in the past that. 2024-11-04 16:38:24
Or you mentioned El Pap, yes. 2024-11-04 16:38:27
Would you mind restating? 2024-11-04 16:38:30
Yeah, Purdue, El Paso. 2024-11-04 16:38:33
Local technical assistance program kind of developed a big. 2024-11-04 16:38:36
Coordinates that was brand new for the whole. 2024-11-04 16:38:39
And they kind of use different examples more on the stage. 2024-11-04 16:38:42
And that's what we presented to you all last time because that's kind of. 2024-11-04 16:38:45
The flash was using. 2024-11-04 16:38:48
Committee and then after some discussions with the. 2024-11-04 16:38:51
Decided that since there was number major issues with. 2024-11-04 16:38:54
Your existing ordinance it would have been easier to just revise. 2024-11-04 16:38:57
Then we're going to bring it into compliance that'll kind of starting to scratch. 2024-11-04 16:39:00
OK. 2024-11-04 16:39:02
Question. 2024-11-04 16:39:06
First paragraph on exemptions. 2024-11-04 16:39:09
Agriculture where there's other infrastructure. 2024-11-04 16:39:12
Elaborate on other infrastructure forms? Yeah, for sure. 2024-11-04 16:39:18
I kind of simplified it a little bit just to include. 2024-11-04 16:39:21
But things like that include like run. 2024-11-04 16:39:27
Four buildings, not necessarily like the past. 2024-11-04 16:39:30
For agricultural equipment in between pastures. 2024-11-04 16:39:33
Field, but to actually go and build the. 2024-11-04 16:39:36
They're out building or waste lagoons or some of those. 2024-11-04 16:39:39
Other things included in other infrastructure that. 2024-11-04 16:39:42
What about rebuild? 2024-11-04 16:39:45
That also detailed rebuilds of existing. 2024-11-04 16:39:48
Yeah, that is not. 2024-11-04 16:39:51
Specifically described, but I. 2024-11-04 16:39:54
Kind of what the ordinance states is because the wording is directly. 2024-11-04 16:39:57
From item website and what they recommend. 2024-11-04 16:40:00
And rebuild are not. 2024-11-04 16:40:03
Directly kind of mentioned in that. 2024-11-04 16:40:06
Maybe I don't know how we are real. 2024-11-04 16:40:09
Building barns, but you know. 2024-11-04 16:40:12
As an exemption. 2024-11-04 16:40:21
Not as making trouble. 2024-11-04 16:40:24
Development and read it over here. 2024-11-04 16:40:27
So this is basically a model. 2024-11-04 16:40:36
Utilized from Purdue like a model template. 2024-11-04 16:40:39
That's been adapted and adopted before. 2024-11-04 16:40:42
After the sessions approved. 2024-11-04 16:40:51
Fort Boyd County and. 2024-11-04 16:40:57
There's a big bag of comedians are doing the same thing. Not all. 2024-11-04 16:41:00
Modifying business. 2024-11-04 16:41:06
Five years. 2024-11-04 16:41:12
So what kind of peer review? 2024-11-04 16:41:18
Well. 2024-11-04 16:41:21
Not. 2024-11-04 16:41:27
As before, I permit. 2024-11-04 16:41:33
In the lab would be the first pretty. 2024-11-04 16:41:39
Reverse through that permit. 2024-11-04 16:41:42
Required to adopt new. 2024-11-04 16:41:45
Requirements. 2024-11-04 16:41:48
OK, so we need the. 2024-11-04 16:41:57
This is something we need to take action on. 2024-11-04 16:42:00
But would go before. 2024-11-04 16:42:03
For the full Board of Commissioners before becoming effective. 2024-11-04 16:42:06
Yeah. 2024-11-04 16:42:09
So my cold water board improve. 2024-11-04 16:42:12
What do I have? 2024-11-04 16:42:18
And are you? 2024-11-04 16:42:24
Constraint on this and. 2024-11-04 16:42:27
So I. 2024-11-04 16:42:30
Well, I mean I. 2024-11-04 16:42:42
That's the case, and I think there's some utility in. 2024-11-04 16:42:46
Passing through the board tonight and then. 2024-11-04 16:42:48
I would want as much. 2024-11-04 16:42:51
Announcement publication on the county. 2024-11-04 16:42:55
Get input from folks before we. 2024-11-04 16:42:58
Formal meeting on that as Commissioner. 2024-11-04 16:43:01
Which is not going to happen any sooner than the second. 2024-11-04 16:43:03
Schedule meeting in November at this point. 2024-11-04 16:43:06
But if we pass this today. 2024-11-04 16:43:13
Like there'd be an update that has been passed by the storm water board. 2024-11-04 16:43:16
Now let's go before the Commissioners, because. 2024-11-04 16:43:19
I don't want. 2024-11-04 16:43:21
And. 2024-11-04 16:43:22
It's in the name of trying to get as many people. 2024-11-04 16:43:25
Interested in this to get their eyes on and off. 2024-11-04 16:43:28
Call John and Jason and I on his board. 2024-11-04 16:43:31
Further, I would be comfortable. 2024-11-04 16:43:34
And then also what I recommend is that. 2024-11-04 16:43:39
That this board. 2024-11-04 16:43:43
Review this with. 2024-11-04 16:43:46
All the what if they can? 2024-11-04 16:43:49
Think of in mind and see how those what if. 2024-11-04 16:43:52
They're handled by the ordinance. 2024-11-04 16:43:55
If there's any modifications. 2024-11-04 16:43:58
OK. 2024-11-04 16:43:58
Changes are things that you want to talk about. 2024-11-04 16:44:01
You know, let's give me notice of that and then we. 2024-11-04 16:44:04
Can dial down and sharpen the pencil on. 2024-11-04 16:44:07
What if that you think it's not being handled? 2024-11-04 16:44:10
Are even addressed by policy. 2024-11-04 16:44:13
What is from the agricultural community? 2024-11-04 16:44:16
Be impacted on in a lot of different paths. 2024-11-04 16:44:22
Compared to the residential post, we're pretty much boilerplate. 2024-11-04 16:44:25
So that. 2024-11-04 16:44:27
Anything I would like? 2024-11-04 16:44:28
Heavily reviewed Frank, where I'd like to have a lot of input from the. 2024-11-04 16:44:31
N. 2024-11-04 16:44:34
So. But I don't have any problem with. 2024-11-04 16:44:37
The Board passing this as presented. 2024-11-04 16:44:40
Recommend to do so if you want a formal motion. 2024-11-04 16:44:43
I'll make you happy, OK? 2024-11-04 16:44:46
Motion you second. I'll second, Jason second. 2024-11-04 16:44:49
In more discussion on Aye. 2024-11-04 16:44:52
Aye, motion carries, and then so. 2024-11-04 16:44:55
Within the next two weeks we can do it and then put it on our. 2024-11-04 16:44:58
Our agenda for the second meeting in. 2024-11-04 16:45:01
Thanks, Chris. 2024-11-04 16:45:13
Legacy Springs, Jason. 2024-11-04 16:45:16
Jason, Jason, Copper Way, Paul from the session. 2024-11-04 16:45:22
301 Chestnut St. Court in Indiana here represent. 2024-11-04 16:45:25
I must have printed an old version of the flat. It says leftover. 2024-11-04 16:45:31
Something is expected to attack. 2024-11-04 16:45:34
Experience didn't have a couple of blocks. 2024-11-04 16:45:37
To develop their in legacy Spring. 2024-11-04 16:45:40
Which is lot 252 and 2:33 which? 2024-11-04 16:45:43
Highlighted in red. 2024-11-04 16:45:46
When this was planted, we planted a 30. 2024-11-04 16:45:49
On existing drainage. 2024-11-04 16:45:52
And then subsequently. 2024-11-04 16:45:55
Mr. Finn went through an approval process at the court. 2024-11-04 16:45:58
Engineers to relocate some of those streams. 2024-11-04 16:46:01
And So what you're looking to do is we. 2024-11-04 16:46:04
By the easements on the flat, we're also working. 2024-11-04 16:46:07
To make sure that's done correctly. 2024-11-04 16:46:10
But. 2024-11-04 16:46:13
That we appear at the Stormwater board 1st to make sure. 2024-11-04 16:46:16
To get your sign off on it and then we go. 2024-11-04 16:46:19
Through the process of getting it moved through the Planning Commission. 2024-11-04 16:46:22
We would only do it in areas where the core has already approved it and I. 2024-11-04 16:46:25
Get proof of those permits to Chris. 2024-11-04 16:46:28
Just bring. It would just bring in performance with. 2024-11-04 16:46:31
To confirm it and would allow a little bit of. 2024-11-04 16:46:34
Better house positioning. 2024-11-04 16:46:37
So he has met with. 2024-11-04 16:46:40
What's What's the? 2024-11-04 16:46:43
Yeah. 2024-11-04 16:46:46
Met with him and he we had everything we had. 2024-11-04 16:46:49
Yeah, the the in fact the stream on 250. 2024-11-04 16:46:55
To have already been relocated in accordance with. 2024-11-04 16:46:58
Permit, but the easement doesn't follow it anymore. 2024-11-04 16:47:01
And then 233 also was was reloaded. 2024-11-04 16:47:04
Somewhat we may be. 2024-11-04 16:47:07
Work to do on that, but we gotta go back and check it permanently. 2024-11-04 16:47:10
Either way will be in compliance with the permit. 2024-11-04 16:47:13
Jason, how does that affect the enjoyment? 2024-11-04 16:47:16
Learning houses there will no determinants move. 2024-11-04 16:47:19
Does not affect the joining loss at all, OK. 2024-11-04 16:47:22
OK, so you're looking for. 2024-11-04 16:47:28
And approval. 2024-11-04 16:47:34
Were you looking for? Exactly? 2024-11-04 16:47:37
They have provided paperwork for. 2024-11-04 16:47:40
I have not. 2024-11-04 16:47:46
Take work for 2:33. I think he's still. 2024-11-04 16:47:49
We're working on it so I would be hesitant to. 2024-11-04 16:47:52
Anything until we actually see the paperwork on. 2024-11-04 16:47:55
2:33 to change that one, but. 2024-11-04 16:47:58
252 has brought in some paperwork and so. 2024-11-04 16:48:01
How the income would be? 2024-11-04 16:48:04
That would have to go back and plan. 2024-11-04 16:48:10
I think. 2024-11-04 16:48:16
Would you just be a? 2024-11-04 16:48:19
Approval that they can take plan Commission. 2024-11-04 16:48:22
Have the overall. 2024-11-04 16:48:25
And that's only for watch. 2024-11-04 16:48:31
Only for why I've seen the information for 50. 2024-11-04 16:48:34
And it looked like it was all in order, so I would. 2024-11-04 16:48:37
Have any problem with 252? I did not. 2024-11-04 16:48:40
233 yet I think. 2024-11-04 16:48:43
You can do it either way. You can make it wait, or you could. 2024-11-04 16:48:49
Staff approval, however you want to do it either way. 2024-11-04 16:48:52
November 2000. 2024-11-04 16:49:10
We have to work with either. 2024-11-04 16:49:16
So it's up to you whether you want to come back here or whether you can. 2024-11-04 16:49:20
One of the field trip I would make a motion that. 2024-11-04 16:49:22
These contingents, we approved 252 tonight. 2024-11-04 16:49:25
And 233 contingently. 2024-11-04 16:49:28
Privilege review and at least. 2024-11-04 16:49:31
Discussion with President of the Board and. 2024-11-04 16:49:34
That would be my my motion. 2024-11-04 16:49:37
OK, we got we got a motion the second. 2024-11-04 16:49:41
Any more discussion? 2024-11-04 16:49:43
OK, you all in favor? Aye aye. 2024-11-04 16:49:46
A motion carries. Thank you and then. 2024-11-04 16:49:49
Jason, you're back up here again for. 2024-11-04 16:49:52
Security reserve subdivision. 2024-11-04 16:49:55
Yeah, again, Jason, Copper wave representing. 2024-11-04 16:49:59
Development, which is Jeff Corbett, who owns Premier Home. 2024-11-04 16:50:01
This is Monterey Reserve subdivision. 2024-11-04 16:50:05
It's on Glendale Rd. just South of where? 2024-11-04 16:50:08
Comes into Glendale, it's kind of kind of the end. 2024-11-04 16:50:11
To the King Rd. Anybody familiar with that? 2024-11-04 16:50:14
This is in the New Albany planning fringe. 2024-11-04 16:50:17
It was approved by the New Albany Planning Commission. 2024-11-04 16:50:20
I've been probably marked or 8:00. 2024-11-04 16:50:23
We went through at that time of its. 2024-11-04 16:50:26
You already required us to design it. 2024-11-04 16:50:29
In accordance with their. 2024-11-04 16:50:32
Coordinates range manual. 2024-11-04 16:50:35
Which this is in the following run watershed and they're. 2024-11-04 16:50:38
Manual requires 150% attention. 2024-11-04 16:50:41
So we did that and then we submitted it to their. 2024-11-04 16:50:44
Third party Engineer Heritage, which is also your third party. 2024-11-04 16:50:47
Review Reviewer. 2024-11-04 16:50:50
Wait a minute, this isn't still in the county. 2024-11-04 16:50:53
Client has applied for an activation, but because this is in the file. 2024-11-04 16:50:56
It doesn't actually happen until January 2023. 2024-11-04 16:50:59
I think so. I'm I'm kind. 2024-11-04 16:51:02
Between processing here. 2024-11-04 16:51:05
The county ordinance is different enough. 2024-11-04 16:51:08
That it wouldn't satisfy the city's ordinance and. 2024-11-04 16:51:11
For the county ordinance so. 2024-11-04 16:51:17
What I'm asking for the board to do would be. 2024-11-04 16:51:20
Since it's going to be annex, give permission for the city. 2024-11-04 16:51:23
To approve the drainage on the project. 2024-11-04 16:51:26
And then my clients can get started. 2024-11-04 16:51:29
We can provide copies of all that to Chris and. 2024-11-04 16:51:32
A couple of small issues there. 2024-11-04 16:51:44
I'll go with the first one. First is with. 2024-11-04 16:51:47
Being in the city and they and. 2024-11-04 16:51:49
They have different. 2024-11-04 16:51:50
Design standards and what Detroit County does. 2024-11-04 16:51:53
We've never reviewed those design standards. 2024-11-04 16:51:56
So for us to take it over and do. 2024-11-04 16:51:59
Any kind of design review. 2024-11-04 16:52:02
Even erosion control reviews or. 2024-11-04 16:52:05
I would just rather. 2024-11-04 16:52:08
If chosen. 2024-11-04 16:52:11
Take. 2024-11-04 16:52:11
Road control, infections and everything else. 2024-11-04 16:52:17
Not even have the county involved with it at all. 2024-11-04 16:52:20
Step 4 We do have some drainage issues and very. 2024-11-04 16:52:23
Court and their division does back up. 2024-11-04 16:52:26
I talked with Jason in the past about making sure. 2024-11-04 16:52:29
There would be capacity along that. 2024-11-04 16:52:32
Western. Southwestern. 2024-11-04 16:52:35
South side of that property. 2024-11-04 16:52:38
Allow whatever. 2024-11-04 16:52:41
Project slash. 2024-11-04 16:52:44
Improvements that can be done on Marion court that would be able to. 2024-11-04 16:52:47
Go into that subdivision to. 2024-11-04 16:52:50
Because those are county residents. 2024-11-04 16:52:53
They're not asking for an animation, so I. 2024-11-04 16:52:56
I really would not want anything that the city is. 2024-11-04 16:52:59
Designing to interfere with. 2024-11-04 16:53:02
Possible improvement on various. 2024-11-04 16:53:05
Court or something else and I have talked about that he. 2024-11-04 16:53:08
You know, giving me the gentleman agreement and everything else. 2024-11-04 16:53:11
You know, maybe that could be a condition. 2024-11-04 16:53:14
Stipulations here tonight. 2024-11-04 16:53:17
More that might be a better Ave. to make sure that it's been. 2024-11-04 16:53:20
Writing and everything else but once again. 2024-11-04 16:53:23
You know if the city is going to take it over. 2024-11-04 16:53:26
26 and it's probably still going to be under control. 2024-11-04 16:53:29
In 26, more than likely. 2024-11-04 16:53:32
I've just asked that the city take care of all of it. 2024-11-04 16:53:35
Don't, don't, don't get the county involved. 2024-11-04 16:53:38
That would be my suggestion. 2024-11-04 16:53:41
A comment and a question. So. So what's the major? 2024-11-04 16:53:44
Difference between those requirements? 2024-11-04 16:53:47
Looks like I mean which is more. 2024-11-04 16:53:50
Conservative or stringent, if you will. 2024-11-04 16:53:53
Sort of hard to compare. 2024-11-04 16:53:56
When when the stormwater manual was. 2024-11-04 16:53:59
First adopted the city and county did it jointly. 2024-11-04 16:54:02
So you had exactly the same standard. 2024-11-04 16:54:05
When the county went through the revision 3 years ago. 2024-11-04 16:54:08
Years ago, Lockwood came. 2024-11-04 16:54:14
The requirement to be a completely different calculation. 2024-11-04 16:54:17
So the old manual. Old manual. 2024-11-04 16:54:20
And the current manual is an analysis of the 20. 2024-11-04 16:54:23
24 hour storm it takes 10. 2024-11-04 16:54:26
Or hundreds of these into the hundreds and 10 reduces to the 10. 2024-11-04 16:54:29
Two in this particular watershed. 2024-11-04 16:54:33
Were required to contain 150% of the storm. 2024-11-04 16:54:35
For 100 day storm your name. 2024-11-04 16:54:38
What's called Hope analysis. 2024-11-04 16:54:41
And every storm between 0 and 20. 2024-11-04 16:54:44
Four hours and determine what the storm. 2024-11-04 16:54:47
And a lot of times we're finding that to be somewhere around. 2024-11-04 16:54:51
But then you. 2024-11-04 16:54:53
Takes 100 and reduces it to the 10 and the 10. 2024-11-04 16:54:56
Interviews, in particular 2 apples. 2024-11-04 16:54:59
Calculations without actually. 2024-11-04 16:55:03
Running the numbers, it's hard to say we have designed it according. 2024-11-04 16:55:06
City standard which is 150%. 2024-11-04 16:55:09
Engine of 100 years. Subjectivity. 2024-11-04 16:55:11
I can't tell you what, you're more conservative. 2024-11-04 16:55:15
And I don't answer the question, but I don't have. 2024-11-04 16:55:21
And the reason ours has changed. 2024-11-04 16:55:24
Because we had complaints from citizens saying that, you know. 2024-11-04 16:55:27
Even though we were approving these subdivisions. 2024-11-04 16:55:30
Drainage problems and everything else. So that's why we. 2024-11-04 16:55:33
A little different standard than what? 2024-11-04 16:55:35
Now with the new ordinance that's coming in. 2024-11-04 16:55:39
Rules and regulations we're going to be relooking at all. 2024-11-04 16:55:42
Our design manual at our standards and that will probably change. 2024-11-04 16:55:45
2025 Fish. 2024-11-04 16:55:48
Get it all and I don't. 2024-11-04 16:55:51
Apologize to this, but I can't recall when the city relies their. 2024-11-04 16:55:54
I know when we went through that. 2024-11-04 16:55:57
Remodeling the zoning, all that I think we. 2024-11-04 16:56:00
And that's where we pushed up to the 150. 2024-11-04 16:56:03
Yeah, I don't. I think the 150 was in the original. 2024-11-04 16:56:06
So Chris, what review would you recommend to prove? 2024-11-04 16:56:18
Tech Barrington Court. Yeah, we need something in writing. 2024-11-04 16:56:21
My second comment is that. 2024-11-04 16:56:24
Not going to be valid here, and that's not and it's. 2024-11-04 16:56:27
Version on any it's just. 2024-11-04 16:56:30
Arena between two different forms. 2024-11-04 16:56:33
Far as far as Kristen, first point that and I apologize if I wouldn't. 2024-11-04 16:56:39
Become clear on that that was my intent would be basically. 2024-11-04 16:56:42
You can take it over. I just meant we could provide staff. 2024-11-04 16:56:45
And then, yeah, what we're what we're doing for. 2024-11-04 16:56:51
Court if we are, we are constructing a. 2024-11-04 16:56:54
Whale along the top line of our property that would be lower. 2024-11-04 16:56:57
Property that would allow water to reach. 2024-11-04 16:57:00
So I think. 2024-11-04 16:57:03
For you to make that a condition under approval, however. 2024-11-04 16:57:09
Where Where are you from? 2024-11-04 16:57:12
I never get recorded or executed with the neighbor. 2024-11-04 16:57:15
No, I mean no, we, we were that. 2024-11-04 16:57:18
Close. We were on the edge and then they sold to. 2024-11-04 16:57:21
The developer. 2024-11-04 16:57:24
Well, he passed away. Yeah, Miss Watkins. And then we were working. 2024-11-04 16:57:27
With the Irma Watkins we were working with. 2024-11-04 16:57:30
Daughter who lives in North Carolina had a couple knees with him with. 2024-11-04 16:57:33
Right there. And then on the ninth, she kind of. 2024-11-04 16:57:36
Hey, just want to let you know we're. 2024-11-04 16:57:39
Developer. 2024-11-04 16:57:42
Well, the developer is. 2024-11-04 16:57:48
Part of our fighting process will be treated again. 2024-11-04 16:57:51
Probably in the same area. 2024-11-04 16:57:54
So I think the results get the same, it's a little. 2024-11-04 16:57:57
All right, so ahead. 2024-11-04 16:58:00
We codify that or. 2024-11-04 16:58:03
But actually obligated. 2024-11-04 16:58:06
Board wants to remain. 2024-11-04 16:58:09
With the jurisdiction. 2024-11-04 16:58:11
Respect. 2024-11-04 16:58:12
The approval process. 2024-11-04 16:58:15
To be able to evaluate. 2024-11-04 16:58:18
Any effects this would have on Barrington court? 2024-11-04 16:58:21
Barrington Subdivision. 2024-11-04 16:58:23
In other words, pass everything on. 2024-11-04 16:58:27
To the city, but again. 2024-11-04 16:58:30
Keeping the. 2024-11-04 16:58:33
Here for your review for Europe. 2024-11-04 16:58:36
Approval that it doesn't negatively affect. 2024-11-04 16:58:39
Barrington. 2024-11-04 16:58:41
No problem at all. I don't know how you work. 2024-11-04 16:58:45
Yeah. 2024-11-04 16:58:48
You want to work that for us, Rich? 2024-11-04 16:58:51
Are we allowing them to proceed under? 2024-11-04 16:58:57
Stipulations that the city of New Albany. 2024-11-04 16:59:00
But we're maintaining jurisdiction. 2024-11-04 16:59:03
But we're telling you that you can follow the city standards rather than. 2024-11-04 16:59:06
Strange, but we're still maintaining. 2024-11-04 16:59:12
The approval, which is not what Chris really wanted because he didn't want the. 2024-11-04 16:59:15
Inspection oversight on that. 2024-11-04 16:59:18
Because we have no control on their houses. 2024-11-04 16:59:21
Are being are being constructed. We have. 2024-11-04 16:59:24
No control over, you know, being able to. 2024-11-04 16:59:27
Issue a software border, but then that would be up to the city of. 2024-11-04 16:59:30
To this board approval. 2024-11-04 16:59:33
2026 when it's annexed anyway, or. 2024-11-04 16:59:39
Or not. Yeah, I mean, I was thinking not. 2024-11-04 16:59:42
For all the general construction. 2024-11-04 16:59:45
Overflow. 2024-11-04 16:59:51
Water not, you know. 2024-11-04 16:59:54
When somebody's building, you got run off or whatever. 2024-11-04 16:59:57
So basically the city could approve this. 2024-11-04 17:00:00
Back here for us to oversee and make sure it also. 2024-11-04 17:00:06
Fairly meets our standards. 2024-11-04 17:00:09
It doesn't affect very. 2024-11-04 17:00:12
Back down and then as long as we are OK with. 2024-11-04 17:00:15
Reviewing and showing that it doesn't affect the. 2024-11-04 17:00:18
Approval of the drainage. 2024-11-04 17:00:24
Calculations energy of Rd. control and then they can do the inspection. 2024-11-04 17:00:27
Correct, because the resins will still have. 2024-11-04 17:00:30
You know, a nuisance case against them. 2024-11-04 17:00:33
A specific piece of property was being. 2024-11-04 17:00:36
Developed and it was run off and all that sort of stuff. 2024-11-04 17:00:39
So have you already submitted this to the city? 2024-11-04 17:00:42
And we've been in limbo trying to get. 2024-11-04 17:00:48
Movement for two or three months I. 2024-11-04 17:00:51
Halfway out here, we understand our response. 2024-11-04 17:00:54
Folks living on Barrington Court and we can't just. 2024-11-04 17:00:57
Abandoned them, so to speak. 2024-11-04 17:01:00
I think we've taken care of it again. I don't have a problem with Christian. 2024-11-04 17:01:03
Not a problem at all. I would say once once you get. 2024-11-04 17:01:09
Approval to the city for the. 2024-11-04 17:01:12
Control and the drainage. 2024-11-04 17:01:12
So we have. 2024-11-04 17:01:15
Arthur Hardy, look at it and. 2024-11-04 17:01:18
And then they'll look at it to make sure that the. 2024-11-04 17:01:21
They've already looked at. 2024-11-04 17:01:24
This is the same people, yes. 2024-11-04 17:01:34
I am not sure what I am. 2024-11-04 17:01:36
I mean, it's just one. 2024-11-04 17:01:39
Done fine with that, Rick. 2024-11-04 17:01:42
There any way the sannexation doesn't happen in the? 2024-11-04 17:01:46
For the harder they annexation will have. 2024-11-04 17:01:48
I don't know. That's up to the city. 2024-11-04 17:01:51
It is a voluntary annexation. 2024-11-04 17:01:54
I suppose, if the Council doesn't. 2024-11-04 17:01:58
Get delayed till 27. I don't have. 2024-11-04 17:02:01
It's been applied for and I believe. 2024-11-04 17:02:04
He was on the agenda, but I don't know that for a fact. 2024-11-04 17:02:07
So where are we talking about a lot? 2024-11-04 17:02:16
The fringe is always. 2024-11-04 17:02:19
Yeah, we'll hear more about that later. 2024-11-04 17:02:22
Right, because the city has planning and. 2024-11-04 17:02:25
And building permit jurisdiction you. 2024-11-04 17:02:28
The roads and the drain, and I understand. 2024-11-04 17:02:31
They're walking a hard place for sure. 2024-11-04 17:02:34
So then you're asking for this board to be able to? 2024-11-04 17:02:37
To give you all these jurisdiction. 2024-11-04 17:02:40
Or as the. 2024-11-04 17:02:43
Drainage and all that for. 2024-11-04 17:02:46
Subdivision correct? 2024-11-04 17:02:49
Basically, let New Albany approve. 2024-11-04 17:02:52
Drainage of rose control through the. 2024-11-04 17:02:55
Drainage, you know, inspections and do the. 2024-11-04 17:02:58
And. 2024-11-04 17:03:01
Verify that that development is not. 2024-11-04 17:03:04
But effectively. 2024-11-04 17:03:07
Is that people? 2024-11-04 17:03:10
Yeah. Is that good? 2024-11-04 17:03:13
Teresa, did you get that? OK. 2024-11-04 17:03:16
Piece it together. 2024-11-04 17:03:18
Emotion. 2024-11-04 17:03:19
Yeah, I think you made a motion. 2024-11-04 17:03:25
I can't play smoke. Yeah, I was just in the military. 2024-11-04 17:03:28
Weird to do, but they I'm fine with that. 2024-11-04 17:03:31
If you want to read it back to us. 2024-11-04 17:03:34
We make sure. 2024-11-04 17:03:37
OK, I I can read for you as well. 2024-11-04 17:03:43
As I understand it, the motion would be to release drainage and. 2024-11-04 17:03:49
Control approval and monitoring to the. 2024-11-04 17:03:52
But that. 2024-11-04 17:03:55
County would have final say over any drainage impact. 2024-11-04 17:03:58
Except for any. 2024-11-04 17:04:01
I need to have ongoing. 2024-11-04 17:04:04
Presentation and approval I would think over. 2024-11-04 17:04:07
Over that I mean before. 2024-11-04 17:04:10
You want board approval or do you want staff? 2024-11-04 17:04:13
I want staff approval at least. 2024-11-04 17:04:16
President of the board looking at. 2024-11-04 17:04:19
Document with the liberty that the. 2024-11-04 17:04:22
Presiding officer can bring it back to the full board. 2024-11-04 17:04:25
They wanted to. I mean, some of this we won't know until after. 2024-11-04 17:04:28
Fact as to whether or not it's going to you know, we're planning this. 2024-11-04 17:04:31
You're designing it not to impact Barrington Court, but. 2024-11-04 17:04:34
I would actually say I think it's probably. 2024-11-04 17:04:37
Engineer do that with you. 2024-11-04 17:04:40
More questions When is it slated for approval for? 2024-11-04 17:04:46
From the Council, I'm not sure. 2024-11-04 17:04:49
It's going to have to be. 2024-11-04 17:04:52
Within the next month, 1 1/2. 2024-11-04 17:04:55
You'd be more comfortable with it was actually. 2024-11-04 17:05:01
It sounds like they're. 2024-11-04 17:05:04
Can you make you want to make it subject to? 2024-11-04 17:05:07
Contingent upon contingent, I could go for that, but it has. 2024-11-04 17:05:10
We continued upon the actualization. 2024-11-04 17:05:13
I'm fine with that. 2024-11-04 17:05:16
There it is. There you go. 2024-11-04 17:05:19
Motion pieces that turn over. 2024-11-04 17:05:22
Stated jurisdiction. 2024-11-04 17:05:25
To the city of New Albany. 2024-11-04 17:05:28
Hint upon reviewed by our engineer. 2024-11-04 17:05:31
Any drainage plans which may imp. 2024-11-04 17:05:34
Barrington Court, the second continue to. 2024-11-04 17:05:37
Approval not to take place until after the city. 2024-11-04 17:05:40
Has voted positively for voluntary exit. 2024-11-04 17:05:43
Can we? 2024-11-04 17:05:46
I'll second that. 2024-11-04 17:05:49
Own favorite I I. 2024-11-04 17:05:52
Ocean Church and one question. 2024-11-04 17:05:55
Do you care if we go ahead and see any? 2024-11-04 17:05:58
Their review of the plan while we're. 2024-11-04 17:06:01
OK. It's final approval by the county. 2024-11-04 17:06:07
Not until after Council. 2024-11-04 17:06:10
Can actively anticipate, no problem. 2024-11-04 17:06:13
Understood. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I saw your stickers. 2024-11-04 17:06:16
There an election going on. There is an election going on. 2024-11-04 17:06:19
Tomorrow. OK, OK. Any public comment? 2024-11-04 17:06:22
Any public comment? 2024-11-04 17:06:25
OK, need a motion to adjourn. 2024-11-04 17:06:28
That way the motion. 2024-11-04 17:06:31
Aye, thank you. 2024-11-04 17:06:34
All right. 2024-11-04 17:06:43
Like a. 2024-11-04 17:06:49
Thank you. 2024-11-04 17:07:01
I can be done. 2024-11-04 17:07:04
Go ahead and just. 2024-11-04 17:07:10
For now. 2024-11-04 17:07:13
Yeah. 2024-11-04 17:07:19
No. 2024-11-04 17:07:28
Thank you. Appreciate it. 2024-11-04 17:07:53
And to the Republic for which it stands. 2024-11-04 18:00:32
One nation under God, indivisible. 2024-11-04 18:00:35
What liberty and invested for all. 2024-11-04 18:00:38
All right, so please, your cell phone. 2024-11-04 18:00:42
If you have any with you. 2024-11-04 18:00:44
And join me in a moment of silence for. 2024-11-04 18:00:48
Individual prayer, meditation, contemplation. 2024-11-04 18:00:51
Meeting tonight. 2024-11-04 18:00:53
Alright, thank you. We'll begin with new. 2024-11-04 18:01:15
Business. I do have a couple of additions. 2024-11-04 18:01:18
Tonight's agenda if I can get unanimous consent. 2024-11-04 18:01:21
Commissioners to add an item. 2024-11-04 18:01:24
Approval of Pimple and Hippo Whistle stop parking lot quote. 2024-11-04 18:01:27
And item 5A and five. 2024-11-04 18:01:30
Condition under County Attorney Rick Fox for Floyd County. 2024-11-04 18:01:33
A Resolution 2024, Dash 19 to purchase. 2024-11-04 18:01:36
Because Mecca lack excavator and attack. 2024-11-04 18:01:39
And item 5 be approval. 2024-11-04 18:01:42
U.S. bank for Finance documents. 2024-11-04 18:01:45
So moved second. OK, all in favor. 2024-11-04 18:01:48
Alright, it's creamy with so. 2024-11-04 18:01:51
Building and development I do want to let folks know. 2024-11-04 18:01:54
The first item 2233. 2024-11-04 18:01:57
Bud Rd. annexation, Future development on. 2024-11-04 18:02:00
County Road item was placed there at my. 2024-11-04 18:02:03
Request about two weeks ago. 2024-11-04 18:02:06
I asked Richard Creevy if you could go ahead and. 2024-11-04 18:02:09
Put a preemptive letter together to send to the city of. 2024-11-04 18:02:12
Zoning officials. 2024-11-04 18:02:15
It's basically to let them know that we know. 2024-11-04 18:02:18
That we have certain rights that the county government with. 2024-11-04 18:02:21
Regards to development and organization out there. 2024-11-04 18:02:24
I let Nick go into that and then we do have some people here who. 2024-11-04 18:02:27
Like to discuss that and they're also trying to get down to the City Hall. 2024-11-04 18:02:30
So I'm going to let them have a little bit of public comments as they. 2024-11-04 18:02:33
You guys bring a bus or a? 2024-11-04 18:02:36
Yeah, and they can get down there. 2024-11-04 18:02:39
City Hall and let's themselves be heard down there as well, so. 2024-11-04 18:02:42
Yeah, I know. I will just be brief to allow them. 2024-11-04 18:02:45
Have their moments to the seat. 2024-11-04 18:02:48
This is a development that we have heard a lot of concern. 2024-11-04 18:02:51
About from citizens. 2024-11-04 18:02:54
It is in the recognized fringe. 2024-11-04 18:02:57
Area of our planning and. 2024-11-04 18:03:00
Second section, although it is currently. 2024-11-04 18:03:06
County property in there are. 2024-11-04 18:03:09
Voluntary annexation before the city. 2024-11-04 18:03:12
Currently, however. 2024-11-04 18:03:15
The pump, the roads there Bud Road and. 2024-11-04 18:03:18
Powderhouse Lane are counting roads. 2024-11-04 18:03:21
Majority of the area. 2024-11-04 18:03:24
The development will take place, so we have prepared. 2024-11-04 18:03:27
Shared a letter that we will send with her on. 2024-11-04 18:03:30
Approval to the City Planning Commission. 2024-11-04 18:03:33
And planning director Mr. Scott Wood. 2024-11-04 18:03:36
Just reiterating that we would like to have. 2024-11-04 18:03:39
Approval prior to final approval of the development. 2024-11-04 18:03:42
Any ingress and egress onto those. 2024-11-04 18:03:45
Roadways and that those would be our county. 2024-11-04 18:03:48
Standard primarily being a lot. 2024-11-04 18:03:51
Would would not have. 2024-11-04 18:03:54
Access to those roads, but they would instead. 2024-11-04 18:03:57
Use the subdivision to connect. 2024-11-04 18:04:00
Subdivision Rd. along with some data. 2024-11-04 18:04:03
Right away along the throat. 2024-11-04 18:04:06
If you have any further questions with me I can answer. 2024-11-04 18:04:09
After they speak I can maybe answer. 2024-11-04 18:04:12
Right. Maybe I mean you and I've had. 2024-11-04 18:04:15
Multiple discussions on this. I've also discussed it with the other committee. 2024-11-04 18:04:18
That's for they're on board with everything that we've been trying to. 2024-11-04 18:04:21
Going to do with that, I guess ultimately we may have to investigate. 2024-11-04 18:04:24
If they choose to try. 2024-11-04 18:04:27
Proceed without our approval on that. 2024-11-04 18:04:30
What leverage or we would have at that point in time? 2024-11-04 18:04:33
Thus far, that has not happened in the platform. 2024-11-04 18:04:36
That you and I thought were very, very preliminary. 2024-11-04 18:04:39
Yeah, that's correct. What we've seen so far is conceptual. 2024-11-04 18:04:42
And from my understanding I. 2024-11-04 18:04:45
No reason to believe that they will not use a normal process. 2024-11-04 18:04:48
That I can get approval from county engineering. 2024-11-04 18:04:51
About these roads, but we want to because. 2024-11-04 18:04:54
The concern that this citizens had, we want to make sure that. 2024-11-04 18:04:57
The city is more aware that we are watching, you know. 2024-11-04 18:05:00
Sending a letter like this is not normal protocol. 2024-11-04 18:05:03
Normally we would wait for the subject to come up, but. 2024-11-04 18:05:06
Because of the amount of concern, I thought it was best for us to get out of here. 2024-11-04 18:05:09
Taking an active role to the degree that we can with this. 2024-11-04 18:05:15
So with that being said. 2024-11-04 18:05:18
Rocks and stuff. 2024-11-04 18:05:21
Your name and address for the record of gasket for that. 2024-11-04 18:05:27
You know my name is Doctor All. 2024-11-04 18:05:30
502 W Arrowhead Dr. 2024-11-04 18:05:33
New Albany, IN. 2024-11-04 18:05:36
Thank you for your. 2024-11-04 18:05:36
Time I'm here tonight to bring you. 2024-11-04 18:05:39
Bring your attention to development at the property. 2024-11-04 18:05:42
33 Bud Rd. that you're already aware of. 2024-11-04 18:05:45
This property was purchased by Belfer Dylan. 2024-11-04 18:05:48
WF Enterprises in the last month again. 2024-11-04 18:05:51
The witches of literally hundreds of petitioners and. 2024-11-04 18:05:54
Protesters, this property has been rezoned. 2024-11-04 18:05:57
By the city of New Albany as medium density residential. 2024-11-04 18:06:00
We and our legal representation believe. 2024-11-04 18:06:03
Well out of wine with Indiana. 2024-11-04 18:06:07
On both element and growth and it in fact clearly by. 2024-11-04 18:06:09
Comprehensive plan for the City of. 2024-11-04 18:06:12
Albany in several areas. 2024-11-04 18:06:15
Like to put forth the following map. 2024-11-04 18:06:19
App for including the meeting minutes. It is the plat map. 2024-11-04 18:06:22
That we discussed or that Nick discussed that. 2024-11-04 18:06:24
Preliminary and as you can see on the map. 2024-11-04 18:06:28
There are 8 driveways that would have to be directly. 2024-11-04 18:06:30
To the Bud Rd. area and then. 2024-11-04 18:06:34
Nine directly to a narrow blind curve on powder health line. 2024-11-04 18:06:37
Both of these roads very small. We just think the introduction of these. 2024-11-04 18:06:40
Driveways would be dangerous to both the. 2024-11-04 18:06:43
Current and future residents There are also 2. 2024-11-04 18:06:46
Roads on this flat and 1:00. 2024-11-04 18:06:49
Into the narrow blind curve on Pattern House Rd. 2024-11-04 18:06:52
And then the other is onto Bud Rd. 2024-11-04 18:06:54
City Council has ignored their own comprehensive. 2024-11-04 18:06:58
Plan and state statute to move forward with. 2024-11-04 18:07:01
Dense rezoning. We've asked that they really consider it. 2024-11-04 18:07:04
Like residential, our requests were ignored. 2024-11-04 18:07:07
They've accepted a proposal that puts like. 2024-11-04 18:07:10
Current and future residents. 2024-11-04 18:07:13
Into narrow. 2024-11-04 18:07:16
Driveway. So a situation where current residents we come. 2024-11-04 18:07:19
Down there, we never narrow driveways where individuals will have to back. 2024-11-04 18:07:22
Out it looks like if anyone is going to have for example. 2024-11-04 18:07:25
A holiday party. We're wondering where they're. 2024-11-04 18:07:28
So these are our concern. 2024-11-04 18:07:31
We're here to let you know that we aren't asking you to stop this. 2024-11-04 18:07:34
Development, we understand, you know, the city of New Albany is moving forward. 2024-11-04 18:07:37
We're just asking you and your director of. 2024-11-04 18:07:40
Zoning and planning a good one. 2024-11-04 18:07:43
To uphold the Statute for Responsible Development and Growth and. 2024-11-04 18:07:46
Your own accounting guidelines and we are here. 2024-11-04 18:07:49
Here to support your declaration for this developer in the city. 2024-11-04 18:07:52
I am honored to be here tonight representing. 2024-11-04 18:07:55
And over 600, it looks like 650. 2024-11-04 18:07:58
Individuals that have signed a petition. 2024-11-04 18:08:01
For the type of responsible. 2024-11-04 18:08:04
And we're just asking that you protect. 2024-11-04 18:08:07
Current future residents by not allowing any driveways. 2024-11-04 18:08:10
Through the County Road and our petition also asked. 2024-11-04 18:08:13
That we work to ensure the developer. 2024-11-04 18:08:16
Brings the roadway out onto a safe area. 2024-11-04 18:08:19
Which we believe would be Bud Rd. 2024-11-04 18:08:22
There's a power line egress there. There's a lot of potential. 2024-11-04 18:08:25
There for a horseshoe shape development and. 2024-11-04 18:08:28
We hope that you'll work with them to make that possible. 2024-11-04 18:08:31
So I am going to submit these petitions. 2024-11-04 18:08:34
And platinum for you into the meeting minutes. 2024-11-04 18:08:37
I also have a copy for each of you of this letter. 2024-11-04 18:08:40
Thank you. All right, thank you. 2024-11-04 18:08:43
OK, we'll take that and then. 2024-11-04 18:08:49
We'll take the original documents. 2024-11-04 18:08:52
Commissioner Schellenberger let him look through it. 2024-11-04 18:08:55
And then get the. 2024-11-04 18:08:58
You know Sharp and then I'll look at him too, and eventually we'll just. 2024-11-04 18:09:01
Legal review them and we'll make sure that they. 2024-11-04 18:09:04
Yeah. I think the other side here, yeah. And then. 2024-11-04 18:09:07
So before you leave. 2024-11-04 18:09:10
I look for a motion to approve the. 2024-11-04 18:09:13
Proposed letter. 2024-11-04 18:09:16
Look at that. 2024-11-04 18:09:19
Second all in favor, aye aye. 2024-11-04 18:09:22
Nick, if you will e-mail. 2024-11-04 18:09:25
A copy of the letter once you signed it and. 2024-11-04 18:09:28
Time that he send it on to the. 2024-11-04 18:09:31
Would so that they have that for their record. 2024-11-04 18:09:34
And I know you guys need to get down there in a way that doesn't. 2024-11-04 18:09:37
So I want to compliment you guys. 2024-11-04 18:09:40
From the very beginning you've been honest, you've been organized, and I really think. 2024-11-04 18:09:43
My graduate politics looks like and I hope you get. 2024-11-04 18:09:46
Fair shake and fair hearing. Loose form. 2024-11-04 18:09:49
Forward, OK. Yeah, we're doing our back. OK. Thank you all. 2024-11-04 18:09:52
Thank you. 2024-11-04 18:09:55
Call. 2024-11-04 18:10:01
All right, it's creepy. 2024-11-04 18:10:04
Bridge 51 Parcel 2 access agreement. 2024-11-04 18:10:07
This is for. 2024-11-04 18:10:10
Two of the right away application for 3:51. 2024-11-04 18:10:13
Property they've requested. 2024-11-04 18:10:19
Disagreement. 2024-11-04 18:10:22
Ask the county to maintain. 2024-11-04 18:10:25
Through the construction period. 2024-11-04 18:10:31
The acquisition and update. 2024-11-04 18:10:34
Just before the meeting to also. 2024-11-04 18:10:37
Erected maintained signage directing the public to. 2024-11-04 18:10:40
Alternate entrance during the construction. 2024-11-04 18:10:43
They requested this prior to. 2024-11-04 18:10:49
Approving the right of way for. 2024-11-04 18:10:52
We can. 2024-11-04 18:10:55
Food and. 2024-11-04 18:10:58
Obviously you don't see any. 2024-11-04 18:11:01
Our consultants say they should not be in an issue. 2024-11-04 18:11:04
To maintain access during construction. 2024-11-04 18:11:07
Of course, not a problem at all. 2024-11-04 18:11:10
All right. I'll look for a motion to approve. 2024-11-04 18:11:13
OK with this, Rick? 2024-11-04 18:11:16
OK, all in favor, aye? 2024-11-04 18:11:22
That's actually the quote. 2024-11-04 18:11:28
I believe you were provided the. 2024-11-04 18:11:31
Garbage services prior to meeting. 2024-11-04 18:11:34
Or you want to handle these separately? 2024-11-04 18:11:43
I think let's just go ahead and proceed handled. 2024-11-04 18:11:46
Separately SO. 2024-11-04 18:11:49
We have the quotes on Rumpke garbage service. 2024-11-04 18:11:52
And temple and temple both. 2024-11-04 18:11:55
That I'd like to do separately, so. 2024-11-04 18:11:58
Look for a motion to approve the Rumpke services. 2024-11-04 18:12:08
1st I'll make that motion. 2024-11-04 18:12:10
Move to second. All in favor aye aye. 2024-11-04 18:12:14
And then just a note on the temple and temple, that was the. 2024-11-04 18:12:17
Bid correct. 2024-11-04 18:12:20
Motion to approve. 2024-11-04 18:12:22
OK. So over here, yes, that was the lowest bid of two that we received. 2024-11-04 18:12:26
Correct. OK. 2024-11-04 18:12:28
Right on their end of it. OK. 2024-11-04 18:12:35
Motion to prove temple. Temple. 2024-11-04 18:12:37
All in favor, aye? 2024-11-04 18:12:41
All right. Thank you. 2024-11-04 18:12:44
I appreciate your work. 2024-11-04 18:12:47
With with him as well, I mean this. 2024-11-04 18:12:49
They've already gone because they have to be. 2024-11-04 18:12:53
They've really approached this again. 2024-11-04 18:12:56
Been a class act the whole way, so that's been. 2024-11-04 18:12:59
My interaction with them, so I hope that I really appreciate. 2024-11-04 18:13:02
Working with him on that, Horatio. 2024-11-04 18:13:05
County engineer issue. 2024-11-04 18:13:08
Good evening. 2024-11-04 18:13:14
I get up right in front. 2024-11-04 18:13:17
Termination contract with. 2024-11-04 18:13:20
RL Boxing regarding the. 2024-11-04 18:13:23
Repair the foundation of which 20. 2024-11-04 18:13:26
I think it's been the best way. 2024-11-04 18:13:29
Process since there were some item that they were not. 2024-11-04 18:13:32
Why don't you do it? 2024-11-04 18:13:35
Necessary. And they did. 2024-11-04 18:13:38
Feel confident with the working. 2024-11-04 18:13:41
And I think you see the best way to. 2024-11-04 18:13:44
Stop this and look for a man. 2024-11-04 18:13:47
Avenue so we can replace the entire. 2024-11-04 18:13:50
Three can do much better work for. 2024-11-04 18:13:53
Right, so. 2024-11-04 18:13:56
There are no hard feelings on either side on this note, correct? 2024-11-04 18:13:59
We do have a Plan B to proceed with that we'll give you. 2024-11-04 18:14:02
Daytime and they they were they were there so I. 2024-11-04 18:14:05
I need a motion to accept in. 2024-11-04 18:14:08
Fine. 2024-11-04 18:14:11
So move second, all right, then motion a second. 2024-11-04 18:14:14
To agree to terminate contract. 2024-11-04 18:14:17
Contract. 2024-11-04 18:14:20
Yeah. 2024-11-04 18:14:23
All in favor, aye? 2024-11-04 18:14:26
All right, bond relief and then. 2024-11-04 18:14:29
The bond release is for legacy, Spring is to give them. 2024-11-04 18:14:32
Has been pretty much complete all the work. 2024-11-04 18:14:35
Required for legal. 2024-11-04 18:14:38
Subdivision and needs to be questioning the most. 2024-11-04 18:14:41
I mentioned to him that you need. 2024-11-04 18:14:44
Someone. 2024-11-04 18:14:47
Money for the two years agreement for maintenance. 2024-11-04 18:14:50
The road and all that. And he's agree with that so. 2024-11-04 18:14:53
That's pretty much Will. 2024-11-04 18:14:56
Explaining to the. 2024-11-04 18:14:59
So I need a motion to accept. 2024-11-04 18:15:02
All right. So you're taking into account? 2024-11-04 18:15:05
Years worth of infrastructure, maintenance and otherwise, really. 2024-11-04 18:15:08
All in favor. 2024-11-04 18:15:14
Alright, alright, alright. Thank you. 2024-11-04 18:15:17
All right. 2024-11-04 18:15:20
Here. 2024-11-04 18:15:23
Get it in the house. Alright, alright. 2024-11-04 18:15:26
I didn't know about the rest of the night. 2024-11-04 18:15:29
OK. 2024-11-04 18:15:32
All right. Well, welcome. 2024-11-04 18:15:35
Then I'm here on behalf of. 2024-11-04 18:15:41
County Justice. Reebok, Justice. 2024-11-04 18:15:44
Reinvestment Advisory Council direct. 2024-11-04 18:15:47
And I know I emailed. 2024-11-04 18:15:50
The three of you with recommendation that. 2024-11-04 18:15:53
For public information. 2024-11-04 18:15:56
In all kind of where we landed. 2024-11-04 18:15:59
If you'll recall back February at 20. 2024-11-04 18:16:02
23 was the time. 2024-11-04 18:16:05
On the 1st. 2024-11-04 18:16:11
We was approximately $800,000, but. 2024-11-04 18:16:14
At that time. 2024-11-04 18:16:20
Had a specific. 2024-11-04 18:16:23
Of J rash that we ensure some. 2024-11-04 18:16:26
Some portion of the funds. 2024-11-04 18:16:29
Organizations. 2024-11-04 18:16:35
Who were serving so. 2024-11-04 18:16:38
Any mental health or addiction? 2024-11-04 18:16:41
And so. 2024-11-04 18:16:44
We've been working pretty much since that time on. 2024-11-04 18:16:47
And do the best way to do that, he set up. 2024-11-04 18:16:50
Instead of a work group and condominiums. 2024-11-04 18:16:53
Lead on that workgroup and. 2024-11-04 18:16:56
So. 2024-11-04 18:16:59
Ryan Vandelia. 2024-11-04 18:17:05
Probation over are given. 2024-11-04 18:17:08
Charlottesville executive. 2024-11-04 18:17:11
Sheriff's Office. 2024-11-04 18:17:17
In 1/4 time and so there is a meeting. 2024-11-04 18:17:20
Formally, there's an application and I know. 2024-11-04 18:17:23
In our meeting in the. 2024-11-04 18:17:29
Quarterly meaning October 21st, 2020. 2024-11-04 18:17:32
Four, which was put to a vote. 2024-11-04 18:17:35
After having created a rubric and. 2024-11-04 18:17:38
Scoring mechanism and. 2024-11-04 18:17:41
$280,000 of the funds have been. 2024-11-04 18:17:44
Scores about 280. 2024-11-04 18:17:50
490 dollars. 2024-11-04 18:17:53
We're proposed. 2024-11-04 18:17:56
To the full direct to find that there is. 2024-11-04 18:17:59
100% collected amount and. 2024-11-04 18:18:02
Rex has had as a recommendation now to the board. 2024-11-04 18:18:05
Knowing that the judges always stand for voting. 2024-11-04 18:18:08
As well as anyone. 2024-11-04 18:18:11
Interested party related to. 2024-11-04 18:18:14
And so they did not. 2024-11-04 18:18:20
Some members of Iraq who are. 2024-11-04 18:18:26
Process as well, because we hope. 2024-11-04 18:18:29
And so. 2024-11-04 18:18:32
Do you have the e-mail with the list? 2024-11-04 18:18:35
The scoring and the list and we have not and. 2024-11-04 18:18:38
We may know any honest. 2024-11-04 18:18:41
To the public because until it will be approved. 2024-11-04 18:18:44
Fund Commissioner was here in the final decision. 2024-11-04 18:18:47
So we're here today. We're making that recommendation. 2024-11-04 18:18:56
Anything else you want to add? 2024-11-04 18:18:59
With the approval from. 2024-11-04 18:19:02
I intend to send out an e-mail to. 2024-11-04 18:19:08
Nonrefunded on Wednesday and tomorrow. 2024-11-04 18:19:14
Letting them know and then we'll. 2024-11-04 18:19:17
Reception, so to speak. 2024-11-04 18:19:24
For those six winners? 2024-11-04 18:19:26
OK, this is a very. 2024-11-04 18:19:36
Educational process for the violin and he said. 2024-11-04 18:19:45
Two hours after everybody could. 2024-11-04 18:19:48
Gone through all 21 applications. 2024-11-04 18:19:51
And finalized everything together. 2024-11-04 18:19:54
It was great. You learn a lot. 2024-11-04 18:19:56
We also like to add before you vote on this. 2024-11-04 18:20:00
So there were. 2024-11-04 18:20:06
The total request I believe. 2024-11-04 18:20:09
It was over a million. 2024-11-04 18:20:15
We only had $280,000. 2024-11-04 18:20:18
Now. Soon. 2024-11-04 18:20:21
That February Eden and that first amount of fun. 2024-11-04 18:20:24
Were assigned to direct make recommendations. 2024-11-04 18:20:27
As you know, but as some. 2024-11-04 18:20:30
No. 2024-11-04 18:20:33
There were additional funds announced from the city. 2024-11-04 18:20:36
Them. 2024-11-04 18:20:39
And then there was a decision by the Commissioners. 2024-11-04 18:20:42
There is a separate ordinance. 2024-11-04 18:20:51
Unrestricted funds now and then they were. 2024-11-04 18:20:54
Criticized with, I recall. 2024-11-04 18:20:57
Over 50 nerds and maybe about 7:00. 2024-11-04 18:21:00
N. 2024-11-04 18:21:03
You asked Jay Rock to continue to make recommendation. 2024-11-04 18:21:06
So now. 2024-11-04 18:21:09
Have this process in place when that happened 1/2. 2024-11-04 18:21:12
Support agency to stand for effective public. 2024-11-04 18:21:21
They are guiding Ajax. 2024-11-04 18:21:24
In setting objective for. 2024-11-04 18:21:27
Primary. 2024-11-04 18:21:33
Thing with, you know, many mental health. 2024-11-04 18:21:36
Primary driver of that. 2024-11-04 18:21:42
And the primary costs are criminal. 2024-11-04 18:21:45
And so. 2024-11-04 18:21:48
For this piece of this will be data collection. 2024-11-04 18:21:51
So that the. 2024-11-04 18:21:54
Are being recommended to be awarded. 2024-11-04 18:21:57
Provide documentation and. 2024-11-04 18:22:03
Gathering data from criminal justice. 2024-11-04 18:22:06
That several other counties in Indiana. 2024-11-04 18:22:15
Here. 2024-11-04 18:22:18
There is set effective set performance measures. 2024-11-04 18:22:21
Looking look into how we can invest. 2024-11-04 18:22:24
For the benefit. 2024-11-04 18:22:27
Community, and in particular for those. 2024-11-04 18:22:30
OK. 2024-11-04 18:22:39
No, I mean I know that you 2 are going. 2024-11-04 18:22:42
Very passionate about that and so I can only. 2024-11-04 18:22:45
I am sure the rest of them. 2024-11-04 18:22:48
Group was as well if you had five of you working on this. 2024-11-04 18:22:51
Five were specifically assigned. There are 32. Yeah. 2024-11-04 18:22:54
There they. 2024-11-04 18:23:00
21 applications. 2024-11-04 18:23:03
And. 2024-11-04 18:23:03
Lord, find your soul in the period that was reminded. 2024-11-04 18:23:06
I'm familiar with those process. 2024-11-04 18:23:09
Out of devotion and work to do that well. 2024-11-04 18:23:12
Thank you both for your. 2024-11-04 18:23:15
Please extend my thanks for conveying my thanks. 2024-11-04 18:23:18
Everybody else on that team. 2024-11-04 18:23:21
So you need approval for the high. 2024-11-04 18:23:24
Highlighted areas to receive those amounts. 2024-11-04 18:23:27
He can move forward with that, correct? OK, so. 2024-11-04 18:23:30
Motion to approve those and I'll second. 2024-11-04 18:23:33
OK, all in favor, aye. When will that be made? 2024-11-04 18:23:36
Public, All right, So we'll be able to do that now. 2024-11-04 18:23:39
Wednesday. 2024-11-04 18:23:42
All of that potential, letting them out. 2024-11-04 18:23:45
And then we intend to go. 2024-11-04 18:23:48
In the newspaper without a. 2024-11-04 18:23:51
They don't know yet. The gentleman keep your. 2024-11-04 18:23:57
Yeah, yeah, that's, that's what I was trying to get at. OK. 2024-11-04 18:24:00
In the minute when the retinal carbon you guys in. 2024-11-04 18:24:03
OK. 2024-11-04 18:24:09
Would you just read that document? 2024-11-04 18:24:12
Into the OR we can have it into the record and. 2024-11-04 18:24:15
For our purposes, we'll just say that the yellow highlighted. 2024-11-04 18:24:18
Areas were approved in the amount. 2024-11-04 18:24:21
Summarize. 2024-11-04 18:24:24
So you want to let them know? Yeah. 2024-11-04 18:24:27
If you're comfortable with that, what are you gonna let him know with? 2024-11-04 18:24:33
Since tomorrow is. 2024-11-04 18:24:36
Yeah, so. 2024-11-04 18:24:39
Do a slow burn off. 2024-11-04 18:24:42
3rd. 2024-11-04 18:24:45
And then we'll schedule, we'll schedule an announcement. 2024-11-04 18:24:48
Time and hoping to do something. 2024-11-04 18:24:51
Special with that, so OK. 2024-11-04 18:24:54
Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. 2024-11-04 18:24:57
All righty Bush. 2024-11-04 18:25:00
I don't remember. 2024-11-04 18:25:12
So I'll be on the agenda. 2024-11-04 18:25:24
Reference but let you have a request this evening but I'm. 2024-11-04 18:25:27
Quick fly down a little bit of a history with the Frank speed or some. 2024-11-04 18:25:30
Building in 1994. 2024-11-04 18:25:33
When it was developed originally in the house. 2024-11-04 18:25:36
The jail, the Sheriff's Office normally. 2024-11-04 18:25:39
Police Department kind of addition to. 2024-11-04 18:25:42
County building, which was built in 1961. 2024-11-04 18:25:45
It's nothing up, but that's all right. 2024-11-04 18:25:48
In 2008 or requested I was in. 2024-11-04 18:25:51
Time and we requested along with the President of the. 2024-11-04 18:25:54
The Sheriff's Office Flt in reference to change their name and honor. 2024-11-04 18:25:58
Frank Denzinger, who was killed in the line of duty in 2000. 2024-11-04 18:26:01
7 and so that name was changed. 2024-11-04 18:26:04
In 2008, the honor frame. 2024-11-04 18:26:06
In 2017 renovation. 2024-11-04 18:26:10
Miguel took place finished. 2024-11-04 18:26:12
To basically housing. 2024-11-04 18:26:16
Our inmates were increased at that time, the way I understand it. 2024-11-04 18:26:19
Your deterioration of the jail in different areas. 2024-11-04 18:26:22
And so by doing the renovation and that additional. 2024-11-04 18:26:25
Bunks and improved building infrastructure. 2024-11-04 18:26:28
Electrical and IT and talk about some of them. 2024-11-04 18:26:31
Issues already even after the remarks. 2024-11-04 18:26:34
2422. 2024-11-04 18:26:40
City of involve me alone Police Department start. 2024-11-04 18:26:43
Build their own police station, which they did. 2024-11-04 18:26:45
Building for many years, paying rent. 2024-11-04 18:26:49
So they decided to build their own, which is. 2024-11-04 18:26:52
Scrivener as you can see in that rendering. 2024-11-04 18:26:55
That will be completed, we're being told, in January. 2024-11-04 18:26:58
Of 25 S the next. 2024-11-04 18:27:01
Type in two months vacation. 2024-11-04 18:27:04
That building, so as we come before you, I've had several. 2024-11-04 18:27:07
Discussions over the last several months in reference to that. 2024-11-04 18:27:10
Time frame coming up. 2024-11-04 18:27:13
We are looking to move forward with housing and the Sheriff's Office. 2024-11-04 18:27:16
In that facility and you'll see a rendering. 2024-11-04 18:27:19
Here what the facade on the outside could look like. 2024-11-04 18:27:22
As a new Fort Arc local developer. 2024-11-04 18:27:25
Gave us that rendering of kind of what it would look like. 2024-11-04 18:27:28
At that point, some of the issues that were going. 2024-11-04 18:27:31
Looking at while, we believe we need the whole space. 2024-11-04 18:27:34
We are looking at moving our training division or training room with the. 2024-11-04 18:27:37
Currently to the second floor. 2024-11-04 18:27:40
When you all be moved out, they're going to occupy. 2024-11-04 18:27:43
1st floor when you first go in the building. 2024-11-04 18:27:46
2nd floor in the basement, all that area. 2024-11-04 18:27:48
Divisions are next door to each other, so that's all we have on this. 2024-11-04 18:27:52
2nd floor and then of course our office. 2024-11-04 18:27:55
So what we're looking at is some of the issues. 2024-11-04 18:27:58
We're just running out space and we're just based around space. 2024-11-04 18:28:01
Is the main thing and we really don't have an interest to the office. 2024-11-04 18:28:04
Allow that to happen at that time. 2024-11-04 18:28:07
What we are proposing? 2024-11-04 18:28:10
Great detail is just keep it generic in terms of that. 2024-11-04 18:28:13
Mains in that state, and that's what we're talking. 2024-11-04 18:28:16
Colton denied, along with the parking lot that's out front. 2024-11-04 18:28:19
I'm working with the building authority in terms of. 2024-11-04 18:28:22
Parking lot and we've already had a couple. 2024-11-04 18:28:25
Discussions anyway, regardless of how the parking lot is. 2024-11-04 18:28:28
And what the future of that looks like as well. 2024-11-04 18:28:31
Judges before and some other folks of how we manage. 2024-11-04 18:28:34
The mechanical story. So here's the first. 2024-11-04 18:28:40
For kind of a rendering of. 2024-11-04 18:28:43
What it would be This is the current lobby. 2024-11-04 18:28:46
That we have currently so. 2024-11-04 18:28:49
That would almost say the same. 2024-11-04 18:28:52
What we're looking at, you can see. 2024-11-04 18:28:55
Kind of what we were thinking at that point in time. Another. 2024-11-04 18:28:58
Effect of what? We don't have a lot of space as an attorney. 2024-11-04 18:29:01
So. 2024-11-04 18:29:04
Right now, but if you don't have a lot of faith and we've also talked. 2024-11-04 18:29:07
Spoke with some judges in reference to. 2024-11-04 18:29:10
So whatever y'all decide down the road, which I know it's a couple years. 2024-11-04 18:29:13
Expensive down the road, but we still need to plan for while we have the opportunity. 2024-11-04 18:29:16
Of awful zoom take. 2024-11-04 18:29:19
So we're taking that into consideration as well, but. 2024-11-04 18:29:22
You can see a rendering of that first floor. 2024-11-04 18:29:25
Lobby right there, make sure. 2024-11-04 18:29:28
I got that correct, yeah. 2024-11-04 18:29:31
Yeah. So the next slide is second floor. 2024-11-04 18:29:34
Technically currently where our administrators also. 2024-11-04 18:29:37
Or we'll move them down where the city. 2024-11-04 18:29:40
And you can see how we manage. 2024-11-04 18:29:43
Different offices that we have there on the second. 2024-11-04 18:29:46
Floor. We would bring our training room back down. 2024-11-04 18:29:49
Along with our detective division that would manage that whole state. 2024-11-04 18:29:52
Yeah, so that. 2024-11-04 18:29:55
Nutshell, that's kind of the proposal. 2024-11-04 18:29:58
I know there's been some discussions back and forth on council. 2024-11-04 18:30:01
Could go there over the years. 2024-11-04 18:30:04
I truly believe that we would do all that space. 2024-11-04 18:30:07
We have our court team over in the county building. They would have. 2024-11-04 18:30:10
Come out of that building no matter what you all do with that building. 2024-11-04 18:30:13
And so they would move in where we're at now currently as we move down. 2024-11-04 18:30:16
All of our space will be utilized. 2024-11-04 18:30:19
Utilize the basin as well, but I'm going to. 2024-11-04 18:30:22
Discussions that we can have a little bit more discussion now, but my. 2024-11-04 18:30:28
Request an item for you to allow us to move forward because then. 2024-11-04 18:30:31
60 days or so you'll be moving out. 2024-11-04 18:30:34
Really used our planet for that space. 2024-11-04 18:30:37
OK, open them. 2024-11-04 18:30:43
Well, just a comment and maybe a question. 2024-11-04 18:30:46
As well, I know there was discussion about. 2024-11-04 18:30:49
Down there, but you know, just my. 2024-11-04 18:30:52
For commitment past several years. 2024-11-04 18:30:55
You know, I think they need to be. 2024-11-04 18:30:58
Away from a building like that for several reasons that. 2024-11-04 18:31:01
One, they also have their. 2024-11-04 18:31:04
Center and I know when they were up at the right. 2024-11-04 18:31:07
Building they had their had a large room for the event. 2024-11-04 18:31:10
Emergency and like with. 2024-11-04 18:31:13
During covet four years ago, we used our C. 2024-11-04 18:31:16
Down here, so I don't really don't think there's enough room for. 2024-11-04 18:31:19
Office as well As for the conference. 2024-11-04 18:31:23
And on top of that, when it's being used parking. 2024-11-04 18:31:25
You'll park in his Windsor down there. So you mean they've got. 2024-11-04 18:31:28
Meetings and you know for them to have ample. 2024-11-04 18:31:31
And it's going to be, it's going to be an issue, you know, but first. 2024-11-04 18:31:35
I think EMA needs to be not in the same building. 2024-11-04 18:31:38
They do. I mean, we have a capacity, you know, Jason. 2024-11-04 18:31:40
Been around for long time, you understand those command and control area. 2024-11-04 18:31:43
You know, that could be, you know, down there. 2024-11-04 18:31:46
Those different options. 2024-11-04 18:31:53
With that as well, we can talk about as well. 2024-11-04 18:31:55
His office, he has no no intent on wanting to come to that build. 2024-11-04 18:31:59
You have the city Police Department, one corner. 2024-11-04 18:32:02
A good fit for that area along with the kind of building. 2024-11-04 18:32:05
Both readers are just a lot of moving parts right now. 2024-11-04 18:32:14
As far as the future of what game looks like, as far as. 2024-11-04 18:32:17
Looks like and all. Everything looks like at some point. 2024-11-04 18:32:20
We've got to put people someplace and obviously. 2024-11-04 18:32:23
Order. The Sheriff's Department is a member of that department. 2024-11-04 18:32:26
So you know, I just. 2024-11-04 18:32:29
I think that as of right now, I would like to. 2024-11-04 18:32:32
More things to play out before I made that kind of commitment. 2024-11-04 18:32:34
Knowing that with appetite is just having discussed. 2024-11-04 18:32:38
What? What would you go? There's nothing you know there. 2024-11-04 18:32:41
Probation there before that makes no sense. 2024-11-04 18:32:44
Make any sense for basically downstairs office and we have? 2024-11-04 18:32:47
We have things that we don't want the general public or any other office. 2024-11-04 18:32:50
Sure. Here if we have discussions, we have meetings. 2024-11-04 18:32:53
Or whatever that case may be. So you know why. 2024-11-04 18:32:56
I disagree with you, but also respectfully. 2024-11-04 18:32:59
I'm looking at the future as well and when I see what. 2024-11-04 18:33:02
I know what you're all doing in terms of how you're looking to teach, but nothing makes. 2024-11-04 18:33:05
To go there, whether it be in that DNA process. 2024-11-04 18:33:08
His office, you know, that building is really limited. 2024-11-04 18:33:11
GAIL is gonna be limited if you decide to build the county building there, so. 2024-11-04 18:33:14
Landlocked and so this just makes sense because. 2024-11-04 18:33:17
We'll eventually have to move our 14 mouth. The training room has. 2024-11-04 18:33:20
Come out time to if you're going to look at doing someone time view. 2024-11-04 18:33:23
There's a lot of things I can see even down the future. 2024-11-04 18:33:26
A lot of stuff that you know up, up from the air. 2024-11-04 18:33:29
Two years down the road so that. 2024-11-04 18:33:32
I mean, ideally we have another payment tenant. 2024-11-04 18:33:38
There, but it said that's not going to happen. I can't conceive of what type of. 2024-11-04 18:33:41
How that would workout, you know? 2024-11-04 18:33:44
And other pains in it, yeah. 2024-11-04 18:33:47
Cities moving out? I guess so, yeah. 2024-11-04 18:33:50
The. 2024-11-04 18:33:53
I want to recommend that we table this tonight. 2024-11-04 18:33:56
I like the concept and I like the idea. 2024-11-04 18:33:59
Put you off forever. So I think we probably ought to have some sort of. 2024-11-04 18:34:02
But we do have an election tomorrow and. 2024-11-04 18:34:05
There was a guy here earlier who had an eye load today. 2024-11-04 18:34:08
Italian election tomorrow. 2024-11-04 18:34:11
So there's an election tomorrow and I regard. 2024-11-04 18:34:14
Who wins the the Commissioners? 2024-11-04 18:34:17
Great. I think it might be interesting for. 2024-11-04 18:34:20
Have a look at it too. 2024-11-04 18:34:23
Just for input, just for expertise home. 2024-11-04 18:34:26
For for other thought but. 2024-11-04 18:34:29
I really think we could probably give them some direction on this. 2024-11-04 18:34:32
The end of the year for sure. 2024-11-04 18:34:35
Funding for remodeling. 2024-11-04 18:34:38
Gotten that forehead and you're thinking? 2024-11-04 18:34:41
Have in place. Is that something that commitments to be? 2024-11-04 18:34:47
Take out a different fund you might pay for. 2024-11-04 18:34:50
Some things, but not a lot. So that's that's another discussion. 2024-11-04 18:34:53
And that's going to dictate a lot than the timetable. 2024-11-04 18:34:59
For those renovations or anything like that, but yeah, I, I. 2024-11-04 18:35:02
I think it makes good logical sense and. 2024-11-04 18:35:05
Give a little bit of time, maybe put. 2024-11-04 18:35:08
It's on the TV. OK come from putting this on the. 2024-11-04 18:35:11
First meeting in December. 2024-11-04 18:35:14
Yeah. I mean, I think it needs to be addressed this year. 2024-11-04 18:35:17
Certainty. 2024-11-04 18:35:20
And I'm OK move to move on tonight because I mean, I know. 2024-11-04 18:35:23
We had discussions couple years ago, the previous year. 2024-11-04 18:35:26
For the same thing as far as. 2024-11-04 18:35:29
I don't see why there's any difference here. I mean, they need me. 2024-11-04 18:35:32
Need to grow and at that time I was against. 2024-11-04 18:35:35
Because we were looking at putting. 2024-11-04 18:35:38
Corrections down there and that's not going to happen. 2024-11-04 18:35:41
So you know I give all my help but I think this. 2024-11-04 18:35:44
A good plan, you know, for the expansion. So. 2024-11-04 18:35:47
Is it possible it's something negotiated maybe on the next week? 2024-11-04 18:35:50
Instead of waiting till December, we can put it on the ad agenda. 2024-11-04 18:35:53
We can only table it again if we're not ready. 2024-11-04 18:35:56
Yeah. So put it on the second meeting in November. 2024-11-04 18:35:59
If we don't have the confidence. 2024-11-04 18:36:02
Move forward at that point in time we get later we're. 2024-11-04 18:36:05
Tabling thing. I'm still looking forward to that walkthrough. 2024-11-04 18:36:08
OK, so. 2024-11-04 18:36:11
Look for motion to table this until second meeting of the movement. 2024-11-04 18:36:14
Motion to prove OK. 2024-11-04 18:36:17
You made a motion to approve. 2024-11-04 18:36:20
Table OK, all right and 2nd. 2024-11-04 18:36:23
Table all in favor. 2024-11-04 18:36:26
All right, County Attorney Rick Fox. 2024-11-04 18:36:29
OK. 2024-11-04 18:36:32
We passed the resolution to buy a vac truck. 2024-11-04 18:36:35
And in addition. 2024-11-04 18:36:38
You have a resolution in front of you. 2024-11-04 18:36:41
To purchase. 2024-11-04 18:36:44
Mccallac excavator and attachments. 2024-11-04 18:36:47
And, umm. 2024-11-04 18:36:50
With approval of this. 2024-11-04 18:36:53
That will take care of. 2024-11-04 18:36:56
The statutory approvals that we need and all. 2024-11-04 18:36:59
To purchase the equipment and then. 2024-11-04 18:37:02
I will follow up after you approve the resolution. 2024-11-04 18:37:05
With documents associ. 2024-11-04 18:37:08
Created with pain. 2024-11-04 18:37:11
The purchase of the equipment off. 2024-11-04 18:37:14
Because, to clarify, it's not. 2024-11-04 18:37:17
An additional expenditure. This is already. 2024-11-04 18:37:20
With that previous, that is correct, yeah. 2024-11-04 18:37:23
A motion to approve. 2024-11-04 18:37:26
Make a motion to approve Floyd County Resolution 20249. 2024-11-04 18:37:29
19 Resolution to purchase the Mecca Light. 2024-11-04 18:37:32
Later and the attachment. 2024-11-04 18:37:35
And I will label. 2024-11-04 18:37:36
Second. OK, the motion is second. 2024-11-04 18:37:38
Aye, aye. 2024-11-04 18:37:41
Honey ho if you're a TV Herman fan. 2024-11-04 18:37:48
So it is Makalak as opposed to McCallum. 2024-11-04 18:37:51
Absolutely. 2024-11-04 18:37:53
Cadillac. Yeah. 2024-11-04 18:37:57
Yeah, there you go. 2024-11-04 18:38:00
All right. And then. 2024-11-04 18:38:03
The accompanying item on that in terms of. 2024-11-04 18:38:05
Financing documents it calls for. 2024-11-04 18:38:09
20 payments of. 2024-11-04 18:38:12
40,406. 2024-11-04 18:38:15
80 and the 1st. 2024-11-04 18:38:18
Two days, January 1 of 2025. 2024-11-04 18:38:21
And every six months. 2024-11-04 18:38:24
Is a payment is due through July 1. 2024-11-04 18:38:27
Of 2034. 2024-11-04 18:38:29
All right. 2024-11-04 18:38:33
Bought a six inch. 2024-11-04 18:38:36
Yeah, we've. 2024-11-04 18:38:39
Already allocated your earmark. 2024-11-04 18:38:42
Are coming from and discuss those previously the most. 2024-11-04 18:38:45
Motion to prove out on favor. 2024-11-04 18:38:48
Aye, aye. All right, Board. 2024-11-04 18:38:51
Committee report. 2024-11-04 18:38:54
OK on Monday, October 21st. 2024-11-04 18:39:00
Attend the full J Rag board meeting at noon. 2024-11-04 18:39:03
The next day on. 2024-11-04 18:39:06
I can have met with flew by myself. 2024-11-04 18:39:09
Susanna and Michelle to review our. 2024-11-04 18:39:12
2024 usage. 2024-11-04 18:39:15
A day attended the joint County Council meeting. 2024-11-04 18:39:18
On Thursday, attended the Kipton Bean by Zoom. 2024-11-04 18:39:21
And later that night I attended the Highlander District meeting. 2024-11-04 18:39:24
At the Lafayette Park station. 2024-11-04 18:39:27
And then last Wednesday, we attended. 2024-11-04 18:39:30
Continue to negotiate. 2024-11-04 18:39:33
With the Teamsters for contract for 2025. 2024-11-04 18:39:36
6:00 and 7:00 so cancel. 2024-11-04 18:39:39
Likewise, it's gone on the October 15th in 20. 2024-11-04 18:39:42
If we have had babies with the negotiation committee, with the. 2024-11-04 18:39:45
Collective bargaining unit for the county. 2024-11-04 18:39:48
Row workers and those negotiations are. 2024-11-04 18:39:51
And then October 22nd, we had to join. 2024-11-04 18:39:54
Commissioner Council meeting where we talked about several. 2024-11-04 18:39:57
Items including the Chase Bank purchase. 2024-11-04 18:40:00
Building in the new health department. 2024-11-04 18:40:03
Very good. That's it. 2024-11-04 18:40:06
My my dog ate my list so. 2024-11-04 18:40:09
Could be impact. 2024-11-04 18:40:12
Yeah, sounds like I was busy at least. 2024-11-04 18:40:15
You guys so I. 2024-11-04 18:40:18
Any government officials tonight with any. 2024-11-04 18:40:21
Yeah, Judge. 2024-11-04 18:40:24
Where? 2024-11-04 18:40:27
I didn't realize the sheriff was going to be speaking tonight. 2024-11-04 18:40:30
In APD space but. 2024-11-04 18:40:36
I just wanted to reiterate just because there were a couple. 2024-11-04 18:40:39
Things that I had been raising with him that. 2024-11-04 18:40:42
I thought were important and. 2024-11-04 18:40:45
Unbeknownst to me, he was gonna be coming to talk to you. 2024-11-04 18:40:48
I don't know that I'll be in the next meeting. 2024-11-04 18:40:51
So I wanted to kind of let you know on a couple of issues. 2024-11-04 18:40:54
Number one. 2024-11-04 18:40:57
In talking with Sharon and I've been. 2024-11-04 18:41:00
Working together because the jail. 2024-11-04 18:41:03
We've got what? 2024-11-04 18:41:09
350 people today, that's about. 2024-11-04 18:41:12
100 up on a regular basis from where we were. 2024-11-04 18:41:15
A couple years ago, but. 2024-11-04 18:41:18
One of the things that we want. 2024-11-04 18:41:21
To keep things moving, is being able to have. 2024-11-04 18:41:24
The lawyers meeting with their clients. 2024-11-04 18:41:27
And now, not only lawyers, but. 2024-11-04 18:41:30
There are a lot of other programs and things going on to deal with. 2024-11-04 18:41:33
We're finding to be very successful. 2024-11-04 18:41:36
In terms of our jail transition coordinator? 2024-11-04 18:41:39
System of care is in there meeting with people. 2024-11-04 18:41:42
Incidents happen before so much. 2024-11-04 18:41:48
And with more defendants. 2024-11-04 18:41:51
That's more lawyer meeting, so essentially we're having a space. 2024-11-04 18:41:54
This issue with the rooms available. 2024-11-04 18:41:57
These are the same rooms that they use for the Zoom meeting. 2024-11-04 18:42:00
My understanding of The thing is. 2024-11-04 18:42:03
But there's also. 2024-11-04 18:42:06
Zoom hearings that are conducted for not only. 2024-11-04 18:42:09
But also for. 2024-11-04 18:42:12
The inmates or other courts that they have, other courts that they're in. 2024-11-04 18:42:15
Court proceedings have to go through. 2024-11-04 18:42:18
Or even in our course sometimes if they're belligerent and. 2024-11-04 18:42:21
Other thing that you know that I was thinking about in this. 2024-11-04 18:42:27
Talk to the other judges as far as training for going forward. 2024-11-04 18:42:30
Would be the benefit of. 2024-11-04 18:42:33
The availability of Zoom conferencing. 2024-11-04 18:42:36
Do that. 2024-11-04 18:42:39
There would be the ability to do it in the. 2024-11-04 18:42:42
And randomly is what I'm talking about now that. 2024-11-04 18:42:45
A little bit down the road, but if you're in planning for that. 2024-11-04 18:42:48
So these are all the same purposes that they bring. 2024-11-04 18:42:51
Said really they don't have and so. 2024-11-04 18:42:54
I was secondizing. 2024-11-04 18:42:57
Yeah, but that's something that. 2024-11-04 18:43:00
Not only to the fair, but also to the poor. 2024-11-04 18:43:03
For moving court cases forward and through. 2024-11-04 18:43:06
That's the primary thing. Also the 14. 2024-11-04 18:43:12
I just want to put a sound out there they do. 2024-11-04 18:43:15
Currently on the 3rd floor afternoon. 2024-11-04 18:43:21
And that's interesting. 2024-11-04 18:43:24
Of course, but you know they have. 2024-11-04 18:43:27
Nearby, so it's another safe issue. 2024-11-04 18:43:30
Just from the courts perspective, the parking has been great there. 2024-11-04 18:43:33
And so just more things. 2024-11-04 18:43:42
Location there there are there is very limited parking. 2024-11-04 18:43:45
I think we still need a spot there for the. 2024-11-04 18:43:48
But that's a really critical thing. 2024-11-04 18:43:54
Thank you there. So appreciate his consciousness. 2024-11-04 18:43:57
OK. Thank you and we are going to have time. 2024-11-04 18:44:03
Public comment, but I want to before I forget I. 2024-11-04 18:44:06
The commissioners leave minutes for October 15, 2020. 2024-11-04 18:44:09
For. 2024-11-04 18:44:12
And approval of payroll. 2024-11-04 18:44:15
Plane. 2024-11-04 18:44:18
OK, all in favor, aye? 2024-11-04 18:44:21
And we did have storm water meeting at 4:30 today and our. 2024-11-04 18:44:25
Next meeting will be Monday, November 19th, 2024. 2024-11-04 18:44:27
At 6:00 PM. 2024-11-04 18:44:30
Public time. 2024-11-04 18:44:30
Yes, please. 2024-11-04 18:44:33
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm pretty much. 2024-11-04 18:44:40
Put in front of me. I'm sorry as Tuesday. 2024-11-04 18:44:43
19/20/24, 6:00 PM. 2024-11-04 18:44:45
Town Township either the meetings on real. 2024-11-04 18:44:52
Somebody had to put that back yet. 2024-11-04 18:44:55
Haven't you heard the Glee? The county is this? 2024-11-04 18:44:58
Not to honor the fall back just like. 2024-11-04 18:45:01
But the city is going to. 2024-11-04 18:45:04
It'll all be fine. 2024-11-04 18:45:07
Meetings make sure that that is. 2024-11-04 18:45:10
For the record. 2024-11-04 18:45:13
Make a video part of the record. 2024-11-04 18:45:16
And there was voluminous laughter. 2024-11-04 18:45:19
Yeah, I want to do that. 2024-11-04 18:45:22
I think I want to bring something up and. 2024-11-04 18:45:25
I'm just asking you to consider it. Don't. 2024-11-04 18:45:28
Need or even desire response right now? 2024-11-04 18:45:31
When you take over something. 2024-11-04 18:45:34
PSU slightly before but. 2024-11-04 18:45:37
We are a democracy and we are Republicans. 2024-11-04 18:45:40
Employment democracy because otherwise we referenced the. 2024-11-04 18:45:43
And everything, you gentlemen in the Council. 2024-11-04 18:45:46
The elected officials are as. 2024-11-04 18:45:49
You know, hired 2. 2024-11-04 18:45:52
Speak for us to represent our interests and. 2024-11-04 18:45:55
Basically, cease to say it works, taxpayers. 2024-11-04 18:45:58
Citizens, but I want your employees. 2024-11-04 18:46:01
But you know your duties, and you have to. 2024-11-04 18:46:04
Fits into the public, takes them in, but before you make a decision. 2024-11-04 18:46:07
I have a. 2024-11-04 18:46:10
I have two things I'd like to consider. 2024-11-04 18:46:13
One is to allow. 2024-11-04 18:46:16
I've been in this for special meetings and hearings. 2024-11-04 18:46:19
That consider allowing public. 2024-11-04 18:46:22
Before you vote on some. 2024-11-04 18:46:25
Items some of the things mundane, but. 2024-11-04 18:46:28
There's other things that people here for and they don't get. 2024-11-04 18:46:31
Express your ask about their. 2024-11-04 18:46:34
Express their opinions about it the public comment. 2024-11-04 18:46:37
Meeting when it's too late, the other thing I wanted. 2024-11-04 18:46:40
Consider is. 2024-11-04 18:46:43
I've been coming here for over 12 years and. 2024-11-04 18:46:46
Other things for a long time, but. 2024-11-04 18:46:52
Recently he bought his changes. 2024-11-04 18:46:55
Policy from public comments and questions. 2024-11-04 18:46:58
Public comments and I knew it sometimes. 2024-11-04 18:47:01
You allow questions, but a lot of. 2024-11-04 18:47:04
And I think that it's a. 2024-11-04 18:47:07
Important for transparency and partic. 2024-11-04 18:47:10
Patience that the public ought to be allowed to. 2024-11-04 18:47:13
Questions because? 2024-11-04 18:47:16
Participate in the process. 2024-11-04 18:47:19
Input until after the ghost and it's too late. 2024-11-04 18:47:22
How can we be informed? 2024-11-04 18:47:25
About what is happening or what's going to happen. 2024-11-04 18:47:28
If we're not allowed to ask questions of something, we can. 2024-11-04 18:47:31
Just witnessed the endowment vote. Your actions or comments? 2024-11-04 18:47:34
People come here to observe their. 2024-11-04 18:47:37
Participate but I think. 2024-11-04 18:47:40
Those. 2024-11-04 18:47:43
Opportunities as administrative. 2024-11-04 18:47:46
Without any input before a vote, I would not let the. 2024-11-04 18:47:49
Question at the end of the meeting to figure out. 2024-11-04 18:47:52
What just went on? 2024-11-04 18:47:54
So I'd like you to consider both of those. 2024-11-04 18:47:55
Concepts, whatever. 2024-11-04 18:47:58
And, you know, maybe we'll talk about his next meeting. 2024-11-04 18:48:01
OK. Thank you. 2024-11-04 18:48:04
Yeah, I'm happy to comment on that in the moment. 2024-11-04 18:48:07
I don't know if we're in a treatment a little bit early night. 2024-11-04 18:48:10
But you know. 2024-11-04 18:48:13
Other boards have very very rigid. 2024-11-04 18:48:16
Procedures for. 2024-11-04 18:48:19
For that type of thing, some don't allow. 2024-11-04 18:48:22
And when I was president of the. 2024-11-04 18:48:25
City Council, we had signed. 2024-11-04 18:48:28
For the beginning, and I'm willing to do that if I. 2024-11-04 18:48:31
I get a feeling or consensus that that's what people want. 2024-11-04 18:48:34
But if we do that, it does. 2024-11-04 18:48:37
Somewhat. You know, when I came over here, there was. 2024-11-04 18:48:40
Tradition that is in place and I've kind of followed that and honored it, but. 2024-11-04 18:48:43
The format would roughly be an uplift for. 2024-11-04 18:48:46
Comment between now and the next meeting. 2024-11-04 18:48:49
You could sign up. 2024-11-04 18:48:52
Be what you had to say what you were. 2024-11-04 18:48:55
Before on the agenda, find anything that was. 2024-11-04 18:48:58
Not on the agenda with a non agenda item. 2024-11-04 18:49:01
And I think we. 2024-11-04 18:49:04
Talked about that a few meetings back, but for. 2024-11-04 18:49:07
We just didn't push through on it so. 2024-11-04 18:49:10
I'm more than willing to contemplate and put something like that. 2024-11-04 18:49:13
Into place the question part of. 2024-11-04 18:49:16
A little bit different because. 2024-11-04 18:49:19
We don't always have the answers to the questions. 2024-11-04 18:49:22
We're not comfortable saying that. I'm not prepared to comment or any. 2024-11-04 18:49:25
Answer that at this point in time. 2024-11-04 18:49:28
With some folks who come to these meetings. 2024-11-04 18:49:31
Want to come to the meeting they would like to leave so I. 2024-11-04 18:49:34
My personal policy has always been I'll stick around after. 2024-11-04 18:49:37
Answer any questions that you might have about. 2024-11-04 18:49:40
Anything pertaining to the agenda or not? 2024-11-04 18:49:43
And Jason have always been really good about that, too. You don't see a. 2024-11-04 18:49:46
Running out the back corridor to do that and I think we. 2024-11-04 18:49:49
Taken all comers so probably continue to pursue. 2024-11-04 18:49:52
That policy rather than a public QA. 2024-11-04 18:49:55
Which you know. 2024-11-04 18:49:58
I think a lot of that could be done. 2024-11-04 18:50:01
More personally and more open-ended afterwards without. 2024-11-04 18:50:05
Of having to try to prolong. 2024-11-04 18:50:07
Thing that goes on, I mean, when I was on the City Council, some of me. 2024-11-04 18:50:10
For three hours. And that's so. 2024-11-04 18:50:13
We'll probably end up maybe trying. 2024-11-04 18:50:16
Halfway on that with regards to a sign in sheet. 2024-11-04 18:50:20
It would talk about what are you here to talk about, what you want to talk about. 2024-11-04 18:50:22
Agenda specific and then after. 2024-11-04 18:50:25
Towards non agenda items to do that. 2024-11-04 18:50:28
But I think has been pointed out in the past. 2024-11-04 18:50:32
Many boards don't have this type of back and forth. 2024-11-04 18:50:34
To begin with and by. 2024-11-04 18:50:37
Chapter consists of statute whatever. 2024-11-04 18:50:40
It is. It's really not designed to be AQ and A. 2024-11-04 18:50:43
Here, in the middle of a formal. 2024-11-04 18:50:46
Eating, but the Q&A should exist. 2024-11-04 18:50:49
Between employer and employee. 2024-11-04 18:50:52
Really. In an open-ended fact. 2024-11-04 18:50:55
I have people stop me at Kroger yesterday. That's great. 2024-11-04 18:50:59
I mean, you know, and I had multiple emails from other people. 2024-11-04 18:51:02
Throughout the day, so there are lots of ways to contact. 2024-11-04 18:51:04
About hey, what just happened or whatnot, then I. 2024-11-04 18:51:08
And can be handled. 2024-11-04 18:51:10
Privately. 2024-11-04 18:51:11
To your point though, I agree. Maybe, Maybe. 2024-11-04 18:51:14
Input from you. You came to speak on something beforehand. 2024-11-04 18:51:17
I'm open to that. 2024-11-04 18:51:20
Kind of up to the discretion of folks up here and I. 2024-11-04 18:51:23
I don't want to trap anybody who will be. 2024-11-04 18:51:26
Next week, you know, with my tradition or something like that. 2024-11-04 18:51:29
But I'm open to it. I appreciate your. 2024-11-04 18:51:31
Apologize. Can you consider talking like? 2024-11-04 18:51:35
First thing, the first input, I've been to the council. 2024-11-04 18:51:38
Meanings and Business School board meetings. 2024-11-04 18:51:40
It is only fair. 2024-11-04 18:51:41
They put in an agenda item. 2024-11-04 18:51:43
You can wait till the end of the meeting, so I I agree. 2024-11-04 18:51:47
With that, he signed in and should be on an agenda item. 2024-11-04 18:51:50
The only exception being something's attitude is. 2024-11-04 18:51:53
And that that the public is not aware of the. 2024-11-04 18:51:56
As far as the questions and answers. 2024-11-04 18:51:59
I understand some boys are more they did. 2024-11-04 18:52:02
Planning Board. Former Planning. 2024-11-04 18:52:05
Wrong. And all of that is very almost possible. 2024-11-04 18:52:11
The public input but. 2024-11-04 18:52:14
With the question, somebody doesn't. 2024-11-04 18:52:17
And then what? The boat just meant I'm not. 2024-11-04 18:52:20
People lining up for a business section. Excuse my. 2024-11-04 18:52:23
Question about what just happened. 2024-11-04 18:52:26
If you answer that publicly. 2024-11-04 18:52:29
Then somebody doesn't have to explain the rest. 2024-11-04 18:52:32
I've had people ******* hold me asking what this went on. 2024-11-04 18:52:35
And I forgive my best. Yes, I'm just. 2024-11-04 18:52:38
Considering and limiting it to. 2024-11-04 18:52:41
What's been discussed not come up and say hey, how come you let? 2024-11-04 18:52:44
Your dog join my lawn. You know, irrelevant stuff. 2024-11-04 18:52:47
Yeah, that's what the reason I brought it up is because. 2024-11-04 18:52:50
One question answered here. 2024-11-04 18:52:53
Save 100 people trying to figure out what. 2024-11-04 18:52:56
With you guys and you know out of the way. 2024-11-04 18:52:59
Meeting what happened? Yeah. And I understand where you're coming from. 2024-11-04 18:53:02
That's where I am on the Q&A at this moment in time. 2024-11-04 18:53:05
One of three. So I mean, I don't know. 2024-11-04 18:53:07
John. 2024-11-04 18:53:08
Jason, have any? 2024-11-04 18:53:10
Would there be any? 2024-11-04 18:53:11
You with us having people stop. 2024-11-04 18:53:14
Sign in with regards to a discussion on some of the attendees. 2024-11-04 18:53:17
Items. No, I think it's I think it would be great. 2024-11-04 18:53:20
Exactly the format that you would want to have that trained. 2024-11-04 18:53:23
In that discussion, especially in regard to some. 2024-11-04 18:53:26
That's going to be on the agenda. It's not like being here. 2024-11-04 18:53:29
From the commissioners having a direct conversation, it's not like. 2024-11-04 18:53:32
On the Internet behind a fake screen name putting that bad in. 2024-11-04 18:53:35
And I think it could be reasonable. 2024-11-04 18:53:38
Not, not a bunch of repeaters coming up. 2024-11-04 18:53:41
If so many just like you do with the crabbing meetings with someone. 2024-11-04 18:53:44
Brings up concerns and you say how many other? 2024-11-04 18:53:47
People feel that way. Yeah, we do that. We would probably have a. 2024-11-04 18:53:50
An overall limit and whatnot. 2024-11-04 18:53:53
Yeah, there's there's a way to procedurally handle that, but. 2024-11-04 18:53:56
Yeah, I'm fine with that. Only one time I think we did that. 2024-11-04 18:53:59
Milestone type of votes we. 2024-11-04 18:54:05
Try to allow that, but I don't think problem codifying that so. 2024-11-04 18:54:08
Safety considered because it does make it more. 2024-11-04 18:54:11
Meaningful and I know some people that have been here. 2024-11-04 18:54:14
Would like to have spoken. You can tell when it's been in. 2024-11-04 18:54:17
But then. 2024-11-04 18:54:20
You know, like stress, frustration. 2024-11-04 18:54:23
And I think I'd like to think. 2024-11-04 18:54:26
On that particular, it's a reasonable approach I will. 2024-11-04 18:54:29
I don't think anybody's ever had trouble getting ahold of. 2024-11-04 18:54:32
Any of us before a vote but on the issue. 2024-11-04 18:54:35
I've not heard of that. Maybe I get plenty of phone calls. 2024-11-04 18:54:38
And emails. I'm talking about people that aren't aware. 2024-11-04 18:54:41
Particularly as you back until just. 2024-11-04 18:54:44
Now see, that's the bridge down the street from you. 2024-11-04 18:54:50
Now, OK, not everybody. 2024-11-04 18:54:53
Not everybody that's interested. 2024-11-04 18:54:56
Beforehand, that's all. 2024-11-04 18:54:59
Fair enough. Any other public comments this evening? 2024-11-04 18:55:02
If not, I'll look for a motion. 2024-11-04 18:55:05
All right. All right. Thank you all. 2024-11-04 18:55:08
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On the other side or whatever. 2024-11-04 16:28:49
I don't know. 2024-11-04 16:29:01
See the booster. 2024-11-04 16:29:04
But. 2024-11-04 16:29:10
Yeah. 2024-11-04 16:29:49
#8 in the polls. 2024-11-04 16:29:55
Today, how have they ever been that happened? 2024-11-04 16:29:58
Oh wow. 2024-11-04 16:30:01
It's been a minute. Yeah, OK. 2024-11-04 16:30:04
Hey. 2024-11-04 16:30:07
I want to call our stormwater meeting for. 2024-11-04 16:30:10
4th Order Please stand for the pledge. 2024-11-04 16:30:13
I pledge allegiance to. 2024-11-04 16:30:16
The United States of America. 2024-11-04 16:30:19
Individual liquidity. 2024-11-04 16:30:25
Thank you all for coming. Appreciate. 2024-11-04 16:30:29
Time coming first. 2024-11-04 16:30:31
On the agenda is the approval. 2024-11-04 16:30:34
Of our September 24, 2024 B. 2024-11-04 16:30:37
Move to approve and I'll second. 2024-11-04 16:30:40
Motion, Jason. Second, any discussion on favor? 2024-11-04 16:30:44
Aye, aye. OK, that motion carries. 2024-11-04 16:30:47
Old business erosion. 2024-11-04 16:30:49
Just want to give you an update on what's going on. 2024-11-04 16:30:59
Erosion control. If you notice in your packet, you don't. 2024-11-04 16:31:01
The guy that was doing the road control. 2024-11-04 16:31:08
For the county, his name is Frank Walden. He resigned. 2024-11-04 16:31:11
In the last month and so. 2024-11-04 16:31:13
He was able to complete the inspection. 2024-11-04 16:31:17
Didn't have enough time to do the. 2024-11-04 16:31:20
Summary report right, There is no summary, but we do have. 2024-11-04 16:31:23
All the infections so that makes. 2024-11-04 16:31:26
The in-house inspectors that we had the. 2024-11-04 16:31:29
VIP and the planning. 2024-11-04 16:31:32
Both have left in the past. 2024-11-04 16:31:34
Three months, so we about. 2024-11-04 16:31:38
Her engineering Who has? 2024-11-04 16:31:41
In the past to step up so. 2024-11-04 16:31:44
Remember, Heritage is going to take it back over and. 2024-11-04 16:31:47
Right. 2024-11-04 16:31:50
So I have no problem with heritage. 2024-11-04 16:31:53
They did such a great job in the past, they actually helped train. 2024-11-04 16:31:56
The inspectors that we have in house so. 2024-11-04 16:31:59
That's why you don't have a summary report for. 2024-11-04 16:32:02
October. But they will. 2024-11-04 16:32:05
Be going out here pretty soon to do in November. 2024-11-04 16:32:08
Very important for November after December. 2024-11-04 16:32:11
Is there anything else standing on that report? 2024-11-04 16:32:14
I think we had that one couple days. 2024-11-04 16:32:17
You know, tremendous rain and all. 2024-11-04 16:32:20
Fact, there was some. 2024-11-04 16:32:23
You know, the first part of October was really wet. 2024-11-04 16:32:26
With that monsoon rain we had in September. 2024-11-04 16:32:29
Some of the sites were still and kind of. 2024-11-04 16:32:32
In bad shape because of that, but then. 2024-11-04 16:32:35
Cobra has been a fairly dry month, right? There's been no. 2024-11-04 16:32:38
Playing through anyone through. 2024-11-04 16:32:41
Anything like that, It was about any of those control issues. 2024-11-04 16:32:44
Hopefully they've got no taken care of and every. 2024-11-04 16:32:47
OK. All right. Thank you. 2024-11-04 16:32:50
I have a question and you may not know this. 2024-11-04 16:32:53
Top of your head, but cost comparison between. 2024-11-04 16:32:56
Having Heritage continue to do that versus having. 2024-11-04 16:32:59
Someone in house do it. 2024-11-04 16:33:01
Heritages of. 2024-11-04 16:33:04
You know, so it's not exactly what to do. 2024-11-04 16:33:08
Save up. 2024-11-04 16:33:11
Money as accounting to have. 2024-11-04 16:33:14
Done by people that are already doing some other jobs with. 2024-11-04 16:33:17
Boyd County, Is it the EIC? 2024-11-04 16:33:20
OK. But we're not looking at. 2024-11-04 16:33:23
It's not a full time position to have someone. 2024-11-04 16:33:26
Doing that or well, it used to be, you know, just. 2024-11-04 16:33:29
Speaking honestly, it used to be a full time position, Kevin. 2024-11-04 16:33:32
Better with the urban special. 2024-11-04 16:33:35
Jade and then we had a Rihanna with. 2024-11-04 16:33:38
So it is a full time position but. 2024-11-04 16:33:41
There needed to be an EIT and. 2024-11-04 16:33:44
Planning tech so we split the job up before. 2024-11-04 16:33:47
Two people that we like at some point. 2024-11-04 16:33:50
My opinion to bring it back in houses of one person. 2024-11-04 16:33:53
Same sexy, same like eit. 2024-11-04 16:33:56
Yeah, it sounds like it's covered in the short. 2024-11-04 16:33:59
It's a good opportunity maybe to look at the cup. 2024-11-04 16:34:02
Comparison between the two, you know so. 2024-11-04 16:34:05
OK. Yeah, it started in. 2024-11-04 16:34:11
Stolen water several years back and then grad. 2024-11-04 16:34:14
People laughed at migrated up. 2024-11-04 16:34:17
To be up stormwater, yeah. 2024-11-04 16:34:20
OK, Berta Sweep. 2024-11-04 16:34:23
It just gives you a quick update about river. 2024-11-04 16:34:26
That was part of our stormwater awareness. 2024-11-04 16:34:29
Had a meeting since then so I just wanted to give you a smaller date. 2024-11-04 16:34:32
We had about 68 people throw up to the waterfront. 2024-11-04 16:34:35
On September the 4th. 2024-11-04 16:34:38
OK, we have a. 2024-11-04 16:34:41
Some people from IUS and we had people from. 2024-11-04 16:34:44
New Albany high school show up it was a. 2024-11-04 16:34:47
Great day, get really down low to the. 2024-11-04 16:34:50
Rocks and everything else I do believe a. 2024-11-04 16:34:53
People from Ohm were there and. 2024-11-04 16:34:56
And everything else delay it helps existed nothing. 2024-11-04 16:34:59
The river cleanup we got about a. 2024-11-04 16:35:02
5 yard. 2024-11-04 16:35:05
By 5 yard dumpster about halfway through. 2024-11-04 16:35:08
With debris and stuff they sold up about fish. 2024-11-04 16:35:11
Tires. Here's the thing that. 2024-11-04 16:35:14
Which is a good thing is every time we go. 2024-11-04 16:35:17
Down there, yes, there's trash to pick up and it's becoming less. 2024-11-04 16:35:20
So either. 2024-11-04 16:35:23
Rising enough to bring the track down or? 2024-11-04 16:35:26
Is actually getting out, but you know they would protect our waterway. 2024-11-04 16:35:29
Good deal. 2024-11-04 16:35:32
You guys have nothing to do. 2024-11-04 16:35:32
OK. Thanks for it. 2024-11-04 16:35:35
Next to new business is the meeting. 2024-11-04 16:35:38
Date for 2025. 2024-11-04 16:35:41
There is a calendar. 2024-11-04 16:35:44
Dates of the Commissioners meeting. 2024-11-04 16:35:47
Stormwater has historically been the. 2024-11-04 16:35:50
First before the 1st. 2024-11-04 16:35:53
Meeting of every month when there was that. 2024-11-04 16:35:56
Fall just like this month, November, so. 2024-11-04 16:35:59
Monday. 2024-11-04 16:36:02
Of the first Commissioner meeting. 2024-11-04 16:36:05
Wanted to make sure that the stormwater board was OK. 2024-11-04 16:36:08
With having the meetings at the same time. 2024-11-04 16:36:12
Each month, so we would need a. 2024-11-04 16:36:14
By the Storm Water Board. Continue on. 2024-11-04 16:36:18
To be the first Tuesday, yes, OK. 2024-11-04 16:36:20
Move to approve one second. 2024-11-04 16:36:23
Allied Emotion, Jason. Second, any discussion? 2024-11-04 16:36:27
All in favor, aye aye, motion carries. 2024-11-04 16:36:30
OK, ordinance update. 2024-11-04 16:36:32
Ohm. 2024-11-04 16:36:36
Good afternoon. My name is Katie Cunningham and. 2024-11-04 16:36:45
I'm an EIT with advisors I've done. 2024-11-04 16:36:47
Quite a bit of the work on this ordinance. 2024-11-04 16:36:51
So previously in the September meeting, we presented to all with. 2024-11-04 16:36:54
A version based off the Purdue LSAP. 2024-11-04 16:36:57
But what a lot of communities in the state are using but they have to work in. 2024-11-04 16:37:00
With Chris. 2024-11-04 16:37:03
More effective approach would be to go with throat. 2024-11-04 16:37:06
Advising Floyd County existing ordinance because. 2024-11-04 16:37:09
President indicated that that it worked. 2024-11-04 16:37:12
Well, there were just a couple things to be clarified or added so. 2024-11-04 16:37:15
I believe each one of you should have an overview of changes she. 2024-11-04 16:37:18
Wind gear. 2024-11-04 16:37:21
And I kind of filled it out to give you what. 2024-11-04 16:37:24
Is what are the major things that are changing in this robot? 2024-11-04 16:37:27
So most of these changes. 2024-11-04 16:37:30
Such as what is an exemption and Atlanta. 2024-11-04 16:37:33
Service calculation is required to be in there. 2024-11-04 16:37:36
In the new construction stormwater general permit. 2024-11-04 16:37:39
That I've been issued in 2021. 2024-11-04 16:37:42
And I would say one of the bigger changes is in the. 2024-11-04 16:37:45
One section 1.8, point 17, the notice of. 2024-11-04 16:37:48
Buffer. That buffer was increased. 2024-11-04 16:37:51
25 feet to 50 feet and that is something that. 2024-11-04 16:37:54
Item requires now, but that'll be one of the biggest. 2024-11-04 16:37:57
And then also the fees were updated. 2024-11-04 16:38:00
Kind of creating that fee structure based off the document. 2024-11-04 16:38:03
By the storm water board and. 2024-11-04 16:38:06
And then some. 2024-11-04 16:38:09
Discharges were added. Most of the discharges are already in that ordinance. 2024-11-04 16:38:12
That is existing, but these are some more required ordinance. 2024-11-04 16:38:15
Or required discharge. 2024-11-04 16:38:18
Probably after any questions if you don't have any. 2024-11-04 16:38:21
You mentioned that in the past that. 2024-11-04 16:38:24
Or you mentioned El Pap, yes. 2024-11-04 16:38:27
Would you mind restating? 2024-11-04 16:38:30
Yeah, Purdue, El Paso. 2024-11-04 16:38:33
Local technical assistance program kind of developed a big. 2024-11-04 16:38:36
Coordinates that was brand new for the whole. 2024-11-04 16:38:39
And they kind of use different examples more on the stage. 2024-11-04 16:38:42
And that's what we presented to you all last time because that's kind of. 2024-11-04 16:38:45
The flash was using. 2024-11-04 16:38:48
Committee and then after some discussions with the. 2024-11-04 16:38:51
Decided that since there was number major issues with. 2024-11-04 16:38:54
Your existing ordinance it would have been easier to just revise. 2024-11-04 16:38:57
Then we're going to bring it into compliance that'll kind of starting to scratch. 2024-11-04 16:39:00
OK. 2024-11-04 16:39:02
Question. 2024-11-04 16:39:06
First paragraph on exemptions. 2024-11-04 16:39:09
Agriculture where there's other infrastructure. 2024-11-04 16:39:12
Elaborate on other infrastructure forms? Yeah, for sure. 2024-11-04 16:39:18
I kind of simplified it a little bit just to include. 2024-11-04 16:39:21
But things like that include like run. 2024-11-04 16:39:27
Four buildings, not necessarily like the past. 2024-11-04 16:39:30
For agricultural equipment in between pastures. 2024-11-04 16:39:33
Field, but to actually go and build the. 2024-11-04 16:39:36
They're out building or waste lagoons or some of those. 2024-11-04 16:39:39
Other things included in other infrastructure that. 2024-11-04 16:39:42
What about rebuild? 2024-11-04 16:39:45
That also detailed rebuilds of existing. 2024-11-04 16:39:48
Yeah, that is not. 2024-11-04 16:39:51
Specifically described, but I. 2024-11-04 16:39:54
Kind of what the ordinance states is because the wording is directly. 2024-11-04 16:39:57
From item website and what they recommend. 2024-11-04 16:40:00
And rebuild are not. 2024-11-04 16:40:03
Directly kind of mentioned in that. 2024-11-04 16:40:06
Maybe I don't know how we are real. 2024-11-04 16:40:09
Building barns, but you know. 2024-11-04 16:40:12
As an exemption. 2024-11-04 16:40:21
Not as making trouble. 2024-11-04 16:40:24
Development and read it over here. 2024-11-04 16:40:27
So this is basically a model. 2024-11-04 16:40:36
Utilized from Purdue like a model template. 2024-11-04 16:40:39
That's been adapted and adopted before. 2024-11-04 16:40:42
After the sessions approved. 2024-11-04 16:40:51
Fort Boyd County and. 2024-11-04 16:40:57
There's a big bag of comedians are doing the same thing. Not all. 2024-11-04 16:41:00
Modifying business. 2024-11-04 16:41:06
Five years. 2024-11-04 16:41:12
So what kind of peer review? 2024-11-04 16:41:18
Well. 2024-11-04 16:41:21
Not. 2024-11-04 16:41:27
As before, I permit. 2024-11-04 16:41:33
In the lab would be the first pretty. 2024-11-04 16:41:39
Reverse through that permit. 2024-11-04 16:41:42
Required to adopt new. 2024-11-04 16:41:45
Requirements. 2024-11-04 16:41:48
OK, so we need the. 2024-11-04 16:41:57
This is something we need to take action on. 2024-11-04 16:42:00
But would go before. 2024-11-04 16:42:03
For the full Board of Commissioners before becoming effective. 2024-11-04 16:42:06
Yeah. 2024-11-04 16:42:09
So my cold water board improve. 2024-11-04 16:42:12
What do I have? 2024-11-04 16:42:18
And are you? 2024-11-04 16:42:24
Constraint on this and. 2024-11-04 16:42:27
So I. 2024-11-04 16:42:30
Well, I mean I. 2024-11-04 16:42:42
That's the case, and I think there's some utility in. 2024-11-04 16:42:46
Passing through the board tonight and then. 2024-11-04 16:42:48
I would want as much. 2024-11-04 16:42:51
Announcement publication on the county. 2024-11-04 16:42:55
Get input from folks before we. 2024-11-04 16:42:58
Formal meeting on that as Commissioner. 2024-11-04 16:43:01
Which is not going to happen any sooner than the second. 2024-11-04 16:43:03
Schedule meeting in November at this point. 2024-11-04 16:43:06
But if we pass this today. 2024-11-04 16:43:13
Like there'd be an update that has been passed by the storm water board. 2024-11-04 16:43:16
Now let's go before the Commissioners, because. 2024-11-04 16:43:19
I don't want. 2024-11-04 16:43:21
And. 2024-11-04 16:43:22
It's in the name of trying to get as many people. 2024-11-04 16:43:25
Interested in this to get their eyes on and off. 2024-11-04 16:43:28
Call John and Jason and I on his board. 2024-11-04 16:43:31
Further, I would be comfortable. 2024-11-04 16:43:34
And then also what I recommend is that. 2024-11-04 16:43:39
That this board. 2024-11-04 16:43:43
Review this with. 2024-11-04 16:43:46
All the what if they can? 2024-11-04 16:43:49
Think of in mind and see how those what if. 2024-11-04 16:43:52
They're handled by the ordinance. 2024-11-04 16:43:55
If there's any modifications. 2024-11-04 16:43:58
OK. 2024-11-04 16:43:58
Changes are things that you want to talk about. 2024-11-04 16:44:01
You know, let's give me notice of that and then we. 2024-11-04 16:44:04
Can dial down and sharpen the pencil on. 2024-11-04 16:44:07
What if that you think it's not being handled? 2024-11-04 16:44:10
Are even addressed by policy. 2024-11-04 16:44:13
What is from the agricultural community? 2024-11-04 16:44:16
Be impacted on in a lot of different paths. 2024-11-04 16:44:22
Compared to the residential post, we're pretty much boilerplate. 2024-11-04 16:44:25
So that. 2024-11-04 16:44:27
Anything I would like? 2024-11-04 16:44:28
Heavily reviewed Frank, where I'd like to have a lot of input from the. 2024-11-04 16:44:31
N. 2024-11-04 16:44:34
So. But I don't have any problem with. 2024-11-04 16:44:37
The Board passing this as presented. 2024-11-04 16:44:40
Recommend to do so if you want a formal motion. 2024-11-04 16:44:43
I'll make you happy, OK? 2024-11-04 16:44:46
Motion you second. I'll second, Jason second. 2024-11-04 16:44:49
In more discussion on Aye. 2024-11-04 16:44:52
Aye, motion carries, and then so. 2024-11-04 16:44:55
Within the next two weeks we can do it and then put it on our. 2024-11-04 16:44:58
Our agenda for the second meeting in. 2024-11-04 16:45:01
Thanks, Chris. 2024-11-04 16:45:13
Legacy Springs, Jason. 2024-11-04 16:45:16
Jason, Jason, Copper Way, Paul from the session. 2024-11-04 16:45:22
301 Chestnut St. Court in Indiana here represent. 2024-11-04 16:45:25
I must have printed an old version of the flat. It says leftover. 2024-11-04 16:45:31
Something is expected to attack. 2024-11-04 16:45:34
Experience didn't have a couple of blocks. 2024-11-04 16:45:37
To develop their in legacy Spring. 2024-11-04 16:45:40
Which is lot 252 and 2:33 which? 2024-11-04 16:45:43
Highlighted in red. 2024-11-04 16:45:46
When this was planted, we planted a 30. 2024-11-04 16:45:49
On existing drainage. 2024-11-04 16:45:52
And then subsequently. 2024-11-04 16:45:55
Mr. Finn went through an approval process at the court. 2024-11-04 16:45:58
Engineers to relocate some of those streams. 2024-11-04 16:46:01
And So what you're looking to do is we. 2024-11-04 16:46:04
By the easements on the flat, we're also working. 2024-11-04 16:46:07
To make sure that's done correctly. 2024-11-04 16:46:10
But. 2024-11-04 16:46:13
That we appear at the Stormwater board 1st to make sure. 2024-11-04 16:46:16
To get your sign off on it and then we go. 2024-11-04 16:46:19
Through the process of getting it moved through the Planning Commission. 2024-11-04 16:46:22
We would only do it in areas where the core has already approved it and I. 2024-11-04 16:46:25
Get proof of those permits to Chris. 2024-11-04 16:46:28
Just bring. It would just bring in performance with. 2024-11-04 16:46:31
To confirm it and would allow a little bit of. 2024-11-04 16:46:34
Better house positioning. 2024-11-04 16:46:37
So he has met with. 2024-11-04 16:46:40
What's What's the? 2024-11-04 16:46:43
Yeah. 2024-11-04 16:46:46
Met with him and he we had everything we had. 2024-11-04 16:46:49
Yeah, the the in fact the stream on 250. 2024-11-04 16:46:55
To have already been relocated in accordance with. 2024-11-04 16:46:58
Permit, but the easement doesn't follow it anymore. 2024-11-04 16:47:01
And then 233 also was was reloaded. 2024-11-04 16:47:04
Somewhat we may be. 2024-11-04 16:47:07
Work to do on that, but we gotta go back and check it permanently. 2024-11-04 16:47:10
Either way will be in compliance with the permit. 2024-11-04 16:47:13
Jason, how does that affect the enjoyment? 2024-11-04 16:47:16
Learning houses there will no determinants move. 2024-11-04 16:47:19
Does not affect the joining loss at all, OK. 2024-11-04 16:47:22
OK, so you're looking for. 2024-11-04 16:47:28
And approval. 2024-11-04 16:47:34
Were you looking for? Exactly? 2024-11-04 16:47:37
They have provided paperwork for. 2024-11-04 16:47:40
I have not. 2024-11-04 16:47:46
Take work for 2:33. I think he's still. 2024-11-04 16:47:49
We're working on it so I would be hesitant to. 2024-11-04 16:47:52
Anything until we actually see the paperwork on. 2024-11-04 16:47:55
2:33 to change that one, but. 2024-11-04 16:47:58
252 has brought in some paperwork and so. 2024-11-04 16:48:01
How the income would be? 2024-11-04 16:48:04
That would have to go back and plan. 2024-11-04 16:48:10
I think. 2024-11-04 16:48:16
Would you just be a? 2024-11-04 16:48:19
Approval that they can take plan Commission. 2024-11-04 16:48:22
Have the overall. 2024-11-04 16:48:25
And that's only for watch. 2024-11-04 16:48:31
Only for why I've seen the information for 50. 2024-11-04 16:48:34
And it looked like it was all in order, so I would. 2024-11-04 16:48:37
Have any problem with 252? I did not. 2024-11-04 16:48:40
233 yet I think. 2024-11-04 16:48:43
You can do it either way. You can make it wait, or you could. 2024-11-04 16:48:49
Staff approval, however you want to do it either way. 2024-11-04 16:48:52
November 2000. 2024-11-04 16:49:10
We have to work with either. 2024-11-04 16:49:16
So it's up to you whether you want to come back here or whether you can. 2024-11-04 16:49:20
One of the field trip I would make a motion that. 2024-11-04 16:49:22
These contingents, we approved 252 tonight. 2024-11-04 16:49:25
And 233 contingently. 2024-11-04 16:49:28
Privilege review and at least. 2024-11-04 16:49:31
Discussion with President of the Board and. 2024-11-04 16:49:34
That would be my my motion. 2024-11-04 16:49:37
OK, we got we got a motion the second. 2024-11-04 16:49:41
Any more discussion? 2024-11-04 16:49:43
OK, you all in favor? Aye aye. 2024-11-04 16:49:46
A motion carries. Thank you and then. 2024-11-04 16:49:49
Jason, you're back up here again for. 2024-11-04 16:49:52
Security reserve subdivision. 2024-11-04 16:49:55
Yeah, again, Jason, Copper wave representing. 2024-11-04 16:49:59
Development, which is Jeff Corbett, who owns Premier Home. 2024-11-04 16:50:01
This is Monterey Reserve subdivision. 2024-11-04 16:50:05
It's on Glendale Rd. just South of where? 2024-11-04 16:50:08
Comes into Glendale, it's kind of kind of the end. 2024-11-04 16:50:11
To the King Rd. Anybody familiar with that? 2024-11-04 16:50:14
This is in the New Albany planning fringe. 2024-11-04 16:50:17
It was approved by the New Albany Planning Commission. 2024-11-04 16:50:20
I've been probably marked or 8:00. 2024-11-04 16:50:23
We went through at that time of its. 2024-11-04 16:50:26
You already required us to design it. 2024-11-04 16:50:29
In accordance with their. 2024-11-04 16:50:32
Coordinates range manual. 2024-11-04 16:50:35
Which this is in the following run watershed and they're. 2024-11-04 16:50:38
Manual requires 150% attention. 2024-11-04 16:50:41
So we did that and then we submitted it to their. 2024-11-04 16:50:44
Third party Engineer Heritage, which is also your third party. 2024-11-04 16:50:47
Review Reviewer. 2024-11-04 16:50:50
Wait a minute, this isn't still in the county. 2024-11-04 16:50:53
Client has applied for an activation, but because this is in the file. 2024-11-04 16:50:56
It doesn't actually happen until January 2023. 2024-11-04 16:50:59
I think so. I'm I'm kind. 2024-11-04 16:51:02
Between processing here. 2024-11-04 16:51:05
The county ordinance is different enough. 2024-11-04 16:51:08
That it wouldn't satisfy the city's ordinance and. 2024-11-04 16:51:11
For the county ordinance so. 2024-11-04 16:51:17
What I'm asking for the board to do would be. 2024-11-04 16:51:20
Since it's going to be annex, give permission for the city. 2024-11-04 16:51:23
To approve the drainage on the project. 2024-11-04 16:51:26
And then my clients can get started. 2024-11-04 16:51:29
We can provide copies of all that to Chris and. 2024-11-04 16:51:32
A couple of small issues there. 2024-11-04 16:51:44
I'll go with the first one. First is with. 2024-11-04 16:51:47
Being in the city and they and. 2024-11-04 16:51:49
They have different. 2024-11-04 16:51:50
Design standards and what Detroit County does. 2024-11-04 16:51:53
We've never reviewed those design standards. 2024-11-04 16:51:56
So for us to take it over and do. 2024-11-04 16:51:59
Any kind of design review. 2024-11-04 16:52:02
Even erosion control reviews or. 2024-11-04 16:52:05
I would just rather. 2024-11-04 16:52:08
If chosen. 2024-11-04 16:52:11
Take. 2024-11-04 16:52:11
Road control, infections and everything else. 2024-11-04 16:52:17
Not even have the county involved with it at all. 2024-11-04 16:52:20
Step 4 We do have some drainage issues and very. 2024-11-04 16:52:23
Court and their division does back up. 2024-11-04 16:52:26
I talked with Jason in the past about making sure. 2024-11-04 16:52:29
There would be capacity along that. 2024-11-04 16:52:32
Western. Southwestern. 2024-11-04 16:52:35
South side of that property. 2024-11-04 16:52:38
Allow whatever. 2024-11-04 16:52:41
Project slash. 2024-11-04 16:52:44
Improvements that can be done on Marion court that would be able to. 2024-11-04 16:52:47
Go into that subdivision to. 2024-11-04 16:52:50
Because those are county residents. 2024-11-04 16:52:53
They're not asking for an animation, so I. 2024-11-04 16:52:56
I really would not want anything that the city is. 2024-11-04 16:52:59
Designing to interfere with. 2024-11-04 16:53:02
Possible improvement on various. 2024-11-04 16:53:05
Court or something else and I have talked about that he. 2024-11-04 16:53:08
You know, giving me the gentleman agreement and everything else. 2024-11-04 16:53:11
You know, maybe that could be a condition. 2024-11-04 16:53:14
Stipulations here tonight. 2024-11-04 16:53:17
More that might be a better Ave. to make sure that it's been. 2024-11-04 16:53:20
Writing and everything else but once again. 2024-11-04 16:53:23
You know if the city is going to take it over. 2024-11-04 16:53:26
26 and it's probably still going to be under control. 2024-11-04 16:53:29
In 26, more than likely. 2024-11-04 16:53:32
I've just asked that the city take care of all of it. 2024-11-04 16:53:35
Don't, don't, don't get the county involved. 2024-11-04 16:53:38
That would be my suggestion. 2024-11-04 16:53:41
A comment and a question. So. So what's the major? 2024-11-04 16:53:44
Difference between those requirements? 2024-11-04 16:53:47
Looks like I mean which is more. 2024-11-04 16:53:50
Conservative or stringent, if you will. 2024-11-04 16:53:53
Sort of hard to compare. 2024-11-04 16:53:56
When when the stormwater manual was. 2024-11-04 16:53:59
First adopted the city and county did it jointly. 2024-11-04 16:54:02
So you had exactly the same standard. 2024-11-04 16:54:05
When the county went through the revision 3 years ago. 2024-11-04 16:54:08
Years ago, Lockwood came. 2024-11-04 16:54:14
The requirement to be a completely different calculation. 2024-11-04 16:54:17
So the old manual. Old manual. 2024-11-04 16:54:20
And the current manual is an analysis of the 20. 2024-11-04 16:54:23
24 hour storm it takes 10. 2024-11-04 16:54:26
Or hundreds of these into the hundreds and 10 reduces to the 10. 2024-11-04 16:54:29
Two in this particular watershed. 2024-11-04 16:54:33
Were required to contain 150% of the storm. 2024-11-04 16:54:35
For 100 day storm your name. 2024-11-04 16:54:38
What's called Hope analysis. 2024-11-04 16:54:41
And every storm between 0 and 20. 2024-11-04 16:54:44
Four hours and determine what the storm. 2024-11-04 16:54:47
And a lot of times we're finding that to be somewhere around. 2024-11-04 16:54:51
But then you. 2024-11-04 16:54:53
Takes 100 and reduces it to the 10 and the 10. 2024-11-04 16:54:56
Interviews, in particular 2 apples. 2024-11-04 16:54:59
Calculations without actually. 2024-11-04 16:55:03
Running the numbers, it's hard to say we have designed it according. 2024-11-04 16:55:06
City standard which is 150%. 2024-11-04 16:55:09
Engine of 100 years. Subjectivity. 2024-11-04 16:55:11
I can't tell you what, you're more conservative. 2024-11-04 16:55:15
And I don't answer the question, but I don't have. 2024-11-04 16:55:21
And the reason ours has changed. 2024-11-04 16:55:24
Because we had complaints from citizens saying that, you know. 2024-11-04 16:55:27
Even though we were approving these subdivisions. 2024-11-04 16:55:30
Drainage problems and everything else. So that's why we. 2024-11-04 16:55:33
A little different standard than what? 2024-11-04 16:55:35
Now with the new ordinance that's coming in. 2024-11-04 16:55:39
Rules and regulations we're going to be relooking at all. 2024-11-04 16:55:42
Our design manual at our standards and that will probably change. 2024-11-04 16:55:45
2025 Fish. 2024-11-04 16:55:48
Get it all and I don't. 2024-11-04 16:55:51
Apologize to this, but I can't recall when the city relies their. 2024-11-04 16:55:54
I know when we went through that. 2024-11-04 16:55:57
Remodeling the zoning, all that I think we. 2024-11-04 16:56:00
And that's where we pushed up to the 150. 2024-11-04 16:56:03
Yeah, I don't. I think the 150 was in the original. 2024-11-04 16:56:06
So Chris, what review would you recommend to prove? 2024-11-04 16:56:18
Tech Barrington Court. Yeah, we need something in writing. 2024-11-04 16:56:21
My second comment is that. 2024-11-04 16:56:24
Not going to be valid here, and that's not and it's. 2024-11-04 16:56:27
Version on any it's just. 2024-11-04 16:56:30
Arena between two different forms. 2024-11-04 16:56:33
Far as far as Kristen, first point that and I apologize if I wouldn't. 2024-11-04 16:56:39
Become clear on that that was my intent would be basically. 2024-11-04 16:56:42
You can take it over. I just meant we could provide staff. 2024-11-04 16:56:45
And then, yeah, what we're what we're doing for. 2024-11-04 16:56:51
Court if we are, we are constructing a. 2024-11-04 16:56:54
Whale along the top line of our property that would be lower. 2024-11-04 16:56:57
Property that would allow water to reach. 2024-11-04 16:57:00
So I think. 2024-11-04 16:57:03
For you to make that a condition under approval, however. 2024-11-04 16:57:09
Where Where are you from? 2024-11-04 16:57:12
I never get recorded or executed with the neighbor. 2024-11-04 16:57:15
No, I mean no, we, we were that. 2024-11-04 16:57:18
Close. We were on the edge and then they sold to. 2024-11-04 16:57:21
The developer. 2024-11-04 16:57:24
Well, he passed away. Yeah, Miss Watkins. And then we were working. 2024-11-04 16:57:27
With the Irma Watkins we were working with. 2024-11-04 16:57:30
Daughter who lives in North Carolina had a couple knees with him with. 2024-11-04 16:57:33
Right there. And then on the ninth, she kind of. 2024-11-04 16:57:36
Hey, just want to let you know we're. 2024-11-04 16:57:39
Developer. 2024-11-04 16:57:42
Well, the developer is. 2024-11-04 16:57:48
Part of our fighting process will be treated again. 2024-11-04 16:57:51
Probably in the same area. 2024-11-04 16:57:54
So I think the results get the same, it's a little. 2024-11-04 16:57:57
All right, so ahead. 2024-11-04 16:58:00
We codify that or. 2024-11-04 16:58:03
But actually obligated. 2024-11-04 16:58:06
Board wants to remain. 2024-11-04 16:58:09
With the jurisdiction. 2024-11-04 16:58:11
Respect. 2024-11-04 16:58:12
The approval process. 2024-11-04 16:58:15
To be able to evaluate. 2024-11-04 16:58:18
Any effects this would have on Barrington court? 2024-11-04 16:58:21
Barrington Subdivision. 2024-11-04 16:58:23
In other words, pass everything on. 2024-11-04 16:58:27
To the city, but again. 2024-11-04 16:58:30
Keeping the. 2024-11-04 16:58:33
Here for your review for Europe. 2024-11-04 16:58:36
Approval that it doesn't negatively affect. 2024-11-04 16:58:39
Barrington. 2024-11-04 16:58:41
No problem at all. I don't know how you work. 2024-11-04 16:58:45
Yeah. 2024-11-04 16:58:48
You want to work that for us, Rich? 2024-11-04 16:58:51
Are we allowing them to proceed under? 2024-11-04 16:58:57
Stipulations that the city of New Albany. 2024-11-04 16:59:00
But we're maintaining jurisdiction. 2024-11-04 16:59:03
But we're telling you that you can follow the city standards rather than. 2024-11-04 16:59:06
Strange, but we're still maintaining. 2024-11-04 16:59:12
The approval, which is not what Chris really wanted because he didn't want the. 2024-11-04 16:59:15
Inspection oversight on that. 2024-11-04 16:59:18
Because we have no control on their houses. 2024-11-04 16:59:21
Are being are being constructed. We have. 2024-11-04 16:59:24
No control over, you know, being able to. 2024-11-04 16:59:27
Issue a software border, but then that would be up to the city of. 2024-11-04 16:59:30
To this board approval. 2024-11-04 16:59:33
2026 when it's annexed anyway, or. 2024-11-04 16:59:39
Or not. Yeah, I mean, I was thinking not. 2024-11-04 16:59:42
For all the general construction. 2024-11-04 16:59:45
Overflow. 2024-11-04 16:59:51
Water not, you know. 2024-11-04 16:59:54
When somebody's building, you got run off or whatever. 2024-11-04 16:59:57
So basically the city could approve this. 2024-11-04 17:00:00
Back here for us to oversee and make sure it also. 2024-11-04 17:00:06
Fairly meets our standards. 2024-11-04 17:00:09
It doesn't affect very. 2024-11-04 17:00:12
Back down and then as long as we are OK with. 2024-11-04 17:00:15
Reviewing and showing that it doesn't affect the. 2024-11-04 17:00:18
Approval of the drainage. 2024-11-04 17:00:24
Calculations energy of Rd. control and then they can do the inspection. 2024-11-04 17:00:27
Correct, because the resins will still have. 2024-11-04 17:00:30
You know, a nuisance case against them. 2024-11-04 17:00:33
A specific piece of property was being. 2024-11-04 17:00:36
Developed and it was run off and all that sort of stuff. 2024-11-04 17:00:39
So have you already submitted this to the city? 2024-11-04 17:00:42
And we've been in limbo trying to get. 2024-11-04 17:00:48
Movement for two or three months I. 2024-11-04 17:00:51
Halfway out here, we understand our response. 2024-11-04 17:00:54
Folks living on Barrington Court and we can't just. 2024-11-04 17:00:57
Abandoned them, so to speak. 2024-11-04 17:01:00
I think we've taken care of it again. I don't have a problem with Christian. 2024-11-04 17:01:03
Not a problem at all. I would say once once you get. 2024-11-04 17:01:09
Approval to the city for the. 2024-11-04 17:01:12
Control and the drainage. 2024-11-04 17:01:12
So we have. 2024-11-04 17:01:15
Arthur Hardy, look at it and. 2024-11-04 17:01:18
And then they'll look at it to make sure that the. 2024-11-04 17:01:21
They've already looked at. 2024-11-04 17:01:24
This is the same people, yes. 2024-11-04 17:01:34
I am not sure what I am. 2024-11-04 17:01:36
I mean, it's just one. 2024-11-04 17:01:39
Done fine with that, Rick. 2024-11-04 17:01:42
There any way the sannexation doesn't happen in the? 2024-11-04 17:01:46
For the harder they annexation will have. 2024-11-04 17:01:48
I don't know. That's up to the city. 2024-11-04 17:01:51
It is a voluntary annexation. 2024-11-04 17:01:54
I suppose, if the Council doesn't. 2024-11-04 17:01:58
Get delayed till 27. I don't have. 2024-11-04 17:02:01
It's been applied for and I believe. 2024-11-04 17:02:04
He was on the agenda, but I don't know that for a fact. 2024-11-04 17:02:07
So where are we talking about a lot? 2024-11-04 17:02:16
The fringe is always. 2024-11-04 17:02:19
Yeah, we'll hear more about that later. 2024-11-04 17:02:22
Right, because the city has planning and. 2024-11-04 17:02:25
And building permit jurisdiction you. 2024-11-04 17:02:28
The roads and the drain, and I understand. 2024-11-04 17:02:31
They're walking a hard place for sure. 2024-11-04 17:02:34
So then you're asking for this board to be able to? 2024-11-04 17:02:37
To give you all these jurisdiction. 2024-11-04 17:02:40
Or as the. 2024-11-04 17:02:43
Drainage and all that for. 2024-11-04 17:02:46
Subdivision correct? 2024-11-04 17:02:49
Basically, let New Albany approve. 2024-11-04 17:02:52
Drainage of rose control through the. 2024-11-04 17:02:55
Drainage, you know, inspections and do the. 2024-11-04 17:02:58
And. 2024-11-04 17:03:01
Verify that that development is not. 2024-11-04 17:03:04
But effectively. 2024-11-04 17:03:07
Is that people? 2024-11-04 17:03:10
Yeah. Is that good? 2024-11-04 17:03:13
Teresa, did you get that? OK. 2024-11-04 17:03:16
Piece it together. 2024-11-04 17:03:18
Emotion. 2024-11-04 17:03:19
Yeah, I think you made a motion. 2024-11-04 17:03:25
I can't play smoke. Yeah, I was just in the military. 2024-11-04 17:03:28
Weird to do, but they I'm fine with that. 2024-11-04 17:03:31
If you want to read it back to us. 2024-11-04 17:03:34
We make sure. 2024-11-04 17:03:37
OK, I I can read for you as well. 2024-11-04 17:03:43
As I understand it, the motion would be to release drainage and. 2024-11-04 17:03:49
Control approval and monitoring to the. 2024-11-04 17:03:52
But that. 2024-11-04 17:03:55
County would have final say over any drainage impact. 2024-11-04 17:03:58
Except for any. 2024-11-04 17:04:01
I need to have ongoing. 2024-11-04 17:04:04
Presentation and approval I would think over. 2024-11-04 17:04:07
Over that I mean before. 2024-11-04 17:04:10
You want board approval or do you want staff? 2024-11-04 17:04:13
I want staff approval at least. 2024-11-04 17:04:16
President of the board looking at. 2024-11-04 17:04:19
Document with the liberty that the. 2024-11-04 17:04:22
Presiding officer can bring it back to the full board. 2024-11-04 17:04:25
They wanted to. I mean, some of this we won't know until after. 2024-11-04 17:04:28
Fact as to whether or not it's going to you know, we're planning this. 2024-11-04 17:04:31
You're designing it not to impact Barrington Court, but. 2024-11-04 17:04:34
I would actually say I think it's probably. 2024-11-04 17:04:37
Engineer do that with you. 2024-11-04 17:04:40
More questions When is it slated for approval for? 2024-11-04 17:04:46
From the Council, I'm not sure. 2024-11-04 17:04:49
It's going to have to be. 2024-11-04 17:04:52
Within the next month, 1 1/2. 2024-11-04 17:04:55
You'd be more comfortable with it was actually. 2024-11-04 17:05:01
It sounds like they're. 2024-11-04 17:05:04
Can you make you want to make it subject to? 2024-11-04 17:05:07
Contingent upon contingent, I could go for that, but it has. 2024-11-04 17:05:10
We continued upon the actualization. 2024-11-04 17:05:13
I'm fine with that. 2024-11-04 17:05:16
There it is. There you go. 2024-11-04 17:05:19
Motion pieces that turn over. 2024-11-04 17:05:22
Stated jurisdiction. 2024-11-04 17:05:25
To the city of New Albany. 2024-11-04 17:05:28
Hint upon reviewed by our engineer. 2024-11-04 17:05:31
Any drainage plans which may imp. 2024-11-04 17:05:34
Barrington Court, the second continue to. 2024-11-04 17:05:37
Approval not to take place until after the city. 2024-11-04 17:05:40
Has voted positively for voluntary exit. 2024-11-04 17:05:43
Can we? 2024-11-04 17:05:46
I'll second that. 2024-11-04 17:05:49
Own favorite I I. 2024-11-04 17:05:52
Ocean Church and one question. 2024-11-04 17:05:55
Do you care if we go ahead and see any? 2024-11-04 17:05:58
Their review of the plan while we're. 2024-11-04 17:06:01
OK. It's final approval by the county. 2024-11-04 17:06:07
Not until after Council. 2024-11-04 17:06:10
Can actively anticipate, no problem. 2024-11-04 17:06:13
Understood. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I saw your stickers. 2024-11-04 17:06:16
There an election going on. There is an election going on. 2024-11-04 17:06:19
Tomorrow. OK, OK. Any public comment? 2024-11-04 17:06:22
Any public comment? 2024-11-04 17:06:25
OK, need a motion to adjourn. 2024-11-04 17:06:28
That way the motion. 2024-11-04 17:06:31
Aye, thank you. 2024-11-04 17:06:34
All right. 2024-11-04 17:06:43
Like a. 2024-11-04 17:06:49
Thank you. 2024-11-04 17:07:01
I can be done. 2024-11-04 17:07:04
Go ahead and just. 2024-11-04 17:07:10
For now. 2024-11-04 17:07:13
Yeah. 2024-11-04 17:07:19
No. 2024-11-04 17:07:28
Thank you. Appreciate it. 2024-11-04 17:07:53
And to the Republic for which it stands. 2024-11-04 18:00:32
One nation under God, indivisible. 2024-11-04 18:00:35
What liberty and invested for all. 2024-11-04 18:00:38
All right, so please, your cell phone. 2024-11-04 18:00:42
If you have any with you. 2024-11-04 18:00:44
And join me in a moment of silence for. 2024-11-04 18:00:48
Individual prayer, meditation, contemplation. 2024-11-04 18:00:51
Meeting tonight. 2024-11-04 18:00:53
Alright, thank you. We'll begin with new. 2024-11-04 18:01:15
Business. I do have a couple of additions. 2024-11-04 18:01:18
Tonight's agenda if I can get unanimous consent. 2024-11-04 18:01:21
Commissioners to add an item. 2024-11-04 18:01:24
Approval of Pimple and Hippo Whistle stop parking lot quote. 2024-11-04 18:01:27
And item 5A and five. 2024-11-04 18:01:30
Condition under County Attorney Rick Fox for Floyd County. 2024-11-04 18:01:33
A Resolution 2024, Dash 19 to purchase. 2024-11-04 18:01:36
Because Mecca lack excavator and attack. 2024-11-04 18:01:39
And item 5 be approval. 2024-11-04 18:01:42
U.S. bank for Finance documents. 2024-11-04 18:01:45
So moved second. OK, all in favor. 2024-11-04 18:01:48
Alright, it's creamy with so. 2024-11-04 18:01:51
Building and development I do want to let folks know. 2024-11-04 18:01:54
The first item 2233. 2024-11-04 18:01:57
Bud Rd. annexation, Future development on. 2024-11-04 18:02:00
County Road item was placed there at my. 2024-11-04 18:02:03
Request about two weeks ago. 2024-11-04 18:02:06
I asked Richard Creevy if you could go ahead and. 2024-11-04 18:02:09
Put a preemptive letter together to send to the city of. 2024-11-04 18:02:12
Zoning officials. 2024-11-04 18:02:15
It's basically to let them know that we know. 2024-11-04 18:02:18
That we have certain rights that the county government with. 2024-11-04 18:02:21
Regards to development and organization out there. 2024-11-04 18:02:24
I let Nick go into that and then we do have some people here who. 2024-11-04 18:02:27
Like to discuss that and they're also trying to get down to the City Hall. 2024-11-04 18:02:30
So I'm going to let them have a little bit of public comments as they. 2024-11-04 18:02:33
You guys bring a bus or a? 2024-11-04 18:02:36
Yeah, and they can get down there. 2024-11-04 18:02:39
City Hall and let's themselves be heard down there as well, so. 2024-11-04 18:02:42
Yeah, I know. I will just be brief to allow them. 2024-11-04 18:02:45
Have their moments to the seat. 2024-11-04 18:02:48
This is a development that we have heard a lot of concern. 2024-11-04 18:02:51
About from citizens. 2024-11-04 18:02:54
It is in the recognized fringe. 2024-11-04 18:02:57
Area of our planning and. 2024-11-04 18:03:00
Second section, although it is currently. 2024-11-04 18:03:06
County property in there are. 2024-11-04 18:03:09
Voluntary annexation before the city. 2024-11-04 18:03:12
Currently, however. 2024-11-04 18:03:15
The pump, the roads there Bud Road and. 2024-11-04 18:03:18
Powderhouse Lane are counting roads. 2024-11-04 18:03:21
Majority of the area. 2024-11-04 18:03:24
The development will take place, so we have prepared. 2024-11-04 18:03:27
Shared a letter that we will send with her on. 2024-11-04 18:03:30
Approval to the City Planning Commission. 2024-11-04 18:03:33
And planning director Mr. Scott Wood. 2024-11-04 18:03:36
Just reiterating that we would like to have. 2024-11-04 18:03:39
Approval prior to final approval of the development. 2024-11-04 18:03:42
Any ingress and egress onto those. 2024-11-04 18:03:45
Roadways and that those would be our county. 2024-11-04 18:03:48
Standard primarily being a lot. 2024-11-04 18:03:51
Would would not have. 2024-11-04 18:03:54
Access to those roads, but they would instead. 2024-11-04 18:03:57
Use the subdivision to connect. 2024-11-04 18:04:00
Subdivision Rd. along with some data. 2024-11-04 18:04:03
Right away along the throat. 2024-11-04 18:04:06
If you have any further questions with me I can answer. 2024-11-04 18:04:09
After they speak I can maybe answer. 2024-11-04 18:04:12
Right. Maybe I mean you and I've had. 2024-11-04 18:04:15
Multiple discussions on this. I've also discussed it with the other committee. 2024-11-04 18:04:18
That's for they're on board with everything that we've been trying to. 2024-11-04 18:04:21
Going to do with that, I guess ultimately we may have to investigate. 2024-11-04 18:04:24
If they choose to try. 2024-11-04 18:04:27
Proceed without our approval on that. 2024-11-04 18:04:30
What leverage or we would have at that point in time? 2024-11-04 18:04:33
Thus far, that has not happened in the platform. 2024-11-04 18:04:36
That you and I thought were very, very preliminary. 2024-11-04 18:04:39
Yeah, that's correct. What we've seen so far is conceptual. 2024-11-04 18:04:42
And from my understanding I. 2024-11-04 18:04:45
No reason to believe that they will not use a normal process. 2024-11-04 18:04:48
That I can get approval from county engineering. 2024-11-04 18:04:51
About these roads, but we want to because. 2024-11-04 18:04:54
The concern that this citizens had, we want to make sure that. 2024-11-04 18:04:57
The city is more aware that we are watching, you know. 2024-11-04 18:05:00
Sending a letter like this is not normal protocol. 2024-11-04 18:05:03
Normally we would wait for the subject to come up, but. 2024-11-04 18:05:06
Because of the amount of concern, I thought it was best for us to get out of here. 2024-11-04 18:05:09
Taking an active role to the degree that we can with this. 2024-11-04 18:05:15
So with that being said. 2024-11-04 18:05:18
Rocks and stuff. 2024-11-04 18:05:21
Your name and address for the record of gasket for that. 2024-11-04 18:05:27
You know my name is Doctor All. 2024-11-04 18:05:30
502 W Arrowhead Dr. 2024-11-04 18:05:33
New Albany, IN. 2024-11-04 18:05:36
Thank you for your. 2024-11-04 18:05:36
Time I'm here tonight to bring you. 2024-11-04 18:05:39
Bring your attention to development at the property. 2024-11-04 18:05:42
33 Bud Rd. that you're already aware of. 2024-11-04 18:05:45
This property was purchased by Belfer Dylan. 2024-11-04 18:05:48
WF Enterprises in the last month again. 2024-11-04 18:05:51
The witches of literally hundreds of petitioners and. 2024-11-04 18:05:54
Protesters, this property has been rezoned. 2024-11-04 18:05:57
By the city of New Albany as medium density residential. 2024-11-04 18:06:00
We and our legal representation believe. 2024-11-04 18:06:03
Well out of wine with Indiana. 2024-11-04 18:06:07
On both element and growth and it in fact clearly by. 2024-11-04 18:06:09
Comprehensive plan for the City of. 2024-11-04 18:06:12
Albany in several areas. 2024-11-04 18:06:15
Like to put forth the following map. 2024-11-04 18:06:19
App for including the meeting minutes. It is the plat map. 2024-11-04 18:06:22
That we discussed or that Nick discussed that. 2024-11-04 18:06:24
Preliminary and as you can see on the map. 2024-11-04 18:06:28
There are 8 driveways that would have to be directly. 2024-11-04 18:06:30
To the Bud Rd. area and then. 2024-11-04 18:06:34
Nine directly to a narrow blind curve on powder health line. 2024-11-04 18:06:37
Both of these roads very small. We just think the introduction of these. 2024-11-04 18:06:40
Driveways would be dangerous to both the. 2024-11-04 18:06:43
Current and future residents There are also 2. 2024-11-04 18:06:46
Roads on this flat and 1:00. 2024-11-04 18:06:49
Into the narrow blind curve on Pattern House Rd. 2024-11-04 18:06:52
And then the other is onto Bud Rd. 2024-11-04 18:06:54
City Council has ignored their own comprehensive. 2024-11-04 18:06:58
Plan and state statute to move forward with. 2024-11-04 18:07:01
Dense rezoning. We've asked that they really consider it. 2024-11-04 18:07:04
Like residential, our requests were ignored. 2024-11-04 18:07:07
They've accepted a proposal that puts like. 2024-11-04 18:07:10
Current and future residents. 2024-11-04 18:07:13
Into narrow. 2024-11-04 18:07:16
Driveway. So a situation where current residents we come. 2024-11-04 18:07:19
Down there, we never narrow driveways where individuals will have to back. 2024-11-04 18:07:22
Out it looks like if anyone is going to have for example. 2024-11-04 18:07:25
A holiday party. We're wondering where they're. 2024-11-04 18:07:28
So these are our concern. 2024-11-04 18:07:31
We're here to let you know that we aren't asking you to stop this. 2024-11-04 18:07:34
Development, we understand, you know, the city of New Albany is moving forward. 2024-11-04 18:07:37
We're just asking you and your director of. 2024-11-04 18:07:40
Zoning and planning a good one. 2024-11-04 18:07:43
To uphold the Statute for Responsible Development and Growth and. 2024-11-04 18:07:46
Your own accounting guidelines and we are here. 2024-11-04 18:07:49
Here to support your declaration for this developer in the city. 2024-11-04 18:07:52
I am honored to be here tonight representing. 2024-11-04 18:07:55
And over 600, it looks like 650. 2024-11-04 18:07:58
Individuals that have signed a petition. 2024-11-04 18:08:01
For the type of responsible. 2024-11-04 18:08:04
And we're just asking that you protect. 2024-11-04 18:08:07
Current future residents by not allowing any driveways. 2024-11-04 18:08:10
Through the County Road and our petition also asked. 2024-11-04 18:08:13
That we work to ensure the developer. 2024-11-04 18:08:16
Brings the roadway out onto a safe area. 2024-11-04 18:08:19
Which we believe would be Bud Rd. 2024-11-04 18:08:22
There's a power line egress there. There's a lot of potential. 2024-11-04 18:08:25
There for a horseshoe shape development and. 2024-11-04 18:08:28
We hope that you'll work with them to make that possible. 2024-11-04 18:08:31
So I am going to submit these petitions. 2024-11-04 18:08:34
And platinum for you into the meeting minutes. 2024-11-04 18:08:37
I also have a copy for each of you of this letter. 2024-11-04 18:08:40
Thank you. All right, thank you. 2024-11-04 18:08:43
OK, we'll take that and then. 2024-11-04 18:08:49
We'll take the original documents. 2024-11-04 18:08:52
Commissioner Schellenberger let him look through it. 2024-11-04 18:08:55
And then get the. 2024-11-04 18:08:58
You know Sharp and then I'll look at him too, and eventually we'll just. 2024-11-04 18:09:01
Legal review them and we'll make sure that they. 2024-11-04 18:09:04
Yeah. I think the other side here, yeah. And then. 2024-11-04 18:09:07
So before you leave. 2024-11-04 18:09:10
I look for a motion to approve the. 2024-11-04 18:09:13
Proposed letter. 2024-11-04 18:09:16
Look at that. 2024-11-04 18:09:19
Second all in favor, aye aye. 2024-11-04 18:09:22
Nick, if you will e-mail. 2024-11-04 18:09:25
A copy of the letter once you signed it and. 2024-11-04 18:09:28
Time that he send it on to the. 2024-11-04 18:09:31
Would so that they have that for their record. 2024-11-04 18:09:34
And I know you guys need to get down there in a way that doesn't. 2024-11-04 18:09:37
So I want to compliment you guys. 2024-11-04 18:09:40
From the very beginning you've been honest, you've been organized, and I really think. 2024-11-04 18:09:43
My graduate politics looks like and I hope you get. 2024-11-04 18:09:46
Fair shake and fair hearing. Loose form. 2024-11-04 18:09:49
Forward, OK. Yeah, we're doing our back. OK. Thank you all. 2024-11-04 18:09:52
Thank you. 2024-11-04 18:09:55
Call. 2024-11-04 18:10:01
All right, it's creepy. 2024-11-04 18:10:04
Bridge 51 Parcel 2 access agreement. 2024-11-04 18:10:07
This is for. 2024-11-04 18:10:10
Two of the right away application for 3:51. 2024-11-04 18:10:13
Property they've requested. 2024-11-04 18:10:19
Disagreement. 2024-11-04 18:10:22
Ask the county to maintain. 2024-11-04 18:10:25
Through the construction period. 2024-11-04 18:10:31
The acquisition and update. 2024-11-04 18:10:34
Just before the meeting to also. 2024-11-04 18:10:37
Erected maintained signage directing the public to. 2024-11-04 18:10:40
Alternate entrance during the construction. 2024-11-04 18:10:43
They requested this prior to. 2024-11-04 18:10:49
Approving the right of way for. 2024-11-04 18:10:52
We can. 2024-11-04 18:10:55
Food and. 2024-11-04 18:10:58
Obviously you don't see any. 2024-11-04 18:11:01
Our consultants say they should not be in an issue. 2024-11-04 18:11:04
To maintain access during construction. 2024-11-04 18:11:07
Of course, not a problem at all. 2024-11-04 18:11:10
All right. I'll look for a motion to approve. 2024-11-04 18:11:13
OK with this, Rick? 2024-11-04 18:11:16
OK, all in favor, aye? 2024-11-04 18:11:22
That's actually the quote. 2024-11-04 18:11:28
I believe you were provided the. 2024-11-04 18:11:31
Garbage services prior to meeting. 2024-11-04 18:11:34
Or you want to handle these separately? 2024-11-04 18:11:43
I think let's just go ahead and proceed handled. 2024-11-04 18:11:46
Separately SO. 2024-11-04 18:11:49
We have the quotes on Rumpke garbage service. 2024-11-04 18:11:52
And temple and temple both. 2024-11-04 18:11:55
That I'd like to do separately, so. 2024-11-04 18:11:58
Look for a motion to approve the Rumpke services. 2024-11-04 18:12:08
1st I'll make that motion. 2024-11-04 18:12:10
Move to second. All in favor aye aye. 2024-11-04 18:12:14
And then just a note on the temple and temple, that was the. 2024-11-04 18:12:17
Bid correct. 2024-11-04 18:12:20
Motion to approve. 2024-11-04 18:12:22
OK. So over here, yes, that was the lowest bid of two that we received. 2024-11-04 18:12:26
Correct. OK. 2024-11-04 18:12:28
Right on their end of it. OK. 2024-11-04 18:12:35
Motion to prove temple. Temple. 2024-11-04 18:12:37
All in favor, aye? 2024-11-04 18:12:41
All right. Thank you. 2024-11-04 18:12:44
I appreciate your work. 2024-11-04 18:12:47
With with him as well, I mean this. 2024-11-04 18:12:49
They've already gone because they have to be. 2024-11-04 18:12:53
They've really approached this again. 2024-11-04 18:12:56
Been a class act the whole way, so that's been. 2024-11-04 18:12:59
My interaction with them, so I hope that I really appreciate. 2024-11-04 18:13:02
Working with him on that, Horatio. 2024-11-04 18:13:05
County engineer issue. 2024-11-04 18:13:08
Good evening. 2024-11-04 18:13:14
I get up right in front. 2024-11-04 18:13:17
Termination contract with. 2024-11-04 18:13:20
RL Boxing regarding the. 2024-11-04 18:13:23
Repair the foundation of which 20. 2024-11-04 18:13:26
I think it's been the best way. 2024-11-04 18:13:29
Process since there were some item that they were not. 2024-11-04 18:13:32
Why don't you do it? 2024-11-04 18:13:35
Necessary. And they did. 2024-11-04 18:13:38
Feel confident with the working. 2024-11-04 18:13:41
And I think you see the best way to. 2024-11-04 18:13:44
Stop this and look for a man. 2024-11-04 18:13:47
Avenue so we can replace the entire. 2024-11-04 18:13:50
Three can do much better work for. 2024-11-04 18:13:53
Right, so. 2024-11-04 18:13:56
There are no hard feelings on either side on this note, correct? 2024-11-04 18:13:59
We do have a Plan B to proceed with that we'll give you. 2024-11-04 18:14:02
Daytime and they they were they were there so I. 2024-11-04 18:14:05
I need a motion to accept in. 2024-11-04 18:14:08
Fine. 2024-11-04 18:14:11
So move second, all right, then motion a second. 2024-11-04 18:14:14
To agree to terminate contract. 2024-11-04 18:14:17
Contract. 2024-11-04 18:14:20
Yeah. 2024-11-04 18:14:23
All in favor, aye? 2024-11-04 18:14:26
All right, bond relief and then. 2024-11-04 18:14:29
The bond release is for legacy, Spring is to give them. 2024-11-04 18:14:32
Has been pretty much complete all the work. 2024-11-04 18:14:35
Required for legal. 2024-11-04 18:14:38
Subdivision and needs to be questioning the most. 2024-11-04 18:14:41
I mentioned to him that you need. 2024-11-04 18:14:44
Someone. 2024-11-04 18:14:47
Money for the two years agreement for maintenance. 2024-11-04 18:14:50
The road and all that. And he's agree with that so. 2024-11-04 18:14:53
That's pretty much Will. 2024-11-04 18:14:56
Explaining to the. 2024-11-04 18:14:59
So I need a motion to accept. 2024-11-04 18:15:02
All right. So you're taking into account? 2024-11-04 18:15:05
Years worth of infrastructure, maintenance and otherwise, really. 2024-11-04 18:15:08
All in favor. 2024-11-04 18:15:14
Alright, alright, alright. Thank you. 2024-11-04 18:15:17
All right. 2024-11-04 18:15:20
Here. 2024-11-04 18:15:23
Get it in the house. Alright, alright. 2024-11-04 18:15:26
I didn't know about the rest of the night. 2024-11-04 18:15:29
OK. 2024-11-04 18:15:32
All right. Well, welcome. 2024-11-04 18:15:35
Then I'm here on behalf of. 2024-11-04 18:15:41
County Justice. Reebok, Justice. 2024-11-04 18:15:44
Reinvestment Advisory Council direct. 2024-11-04 18:15:47
And I know I emailed. 2024-11-04 18:15:50
The three of you with recommendation that. 2024-11-04 18:15:53
For public information. 2024-11-04 18:15:56
In all kind of where we landed. 2024-11-04 18:15:59
If you'll recall back February at 20. 2024-11-04 18:16:02
23 was the time. 2024-11-04 18:16:05
On the 1st. 2024-11-04 18:16:11
We was approximately $800,000, but. 2024-11-04 18:16:14
At that time. 2024-11-04 18:16:20
Had a specific. 2024-11-04 18:16:23
Of J rash that we ensure some. 2024-11-04 18:16:26
Some portion of the funds. 2024-11-04 18:16:29
Organizations. 2024-11-04 18:16:35
Who were serving so. 2024-11-04 18:16:38
Any mental health or addiction? 2024-11-04 18:16:41
And so. 2024-11-04 18:16:44
We've been working pretty much since that time on. 2024-11-04 18:16:47
And do the best way to do that, he set up. 2024-11-04 18:16:50
Instead of a work group and condominiums. 2024-11-04 18:16:53
Lead on that workgroup and. 2024-11-04 18:16:56
So. 2024-11-04 18:16:59
Ryan Vandelia. 2024-11-04 18:17:05
Probation over are given. 2024-11-04 18:17:08
Charlottesville executive. 2024-11-04 18:17:11
Sheriff's Office. 2024-11-04 18:17:17
In 1/4 time and so there is a meeting. 2024-11-04 18:17:20
Formally, there's an application and I know. 2024-11-04 18:17:23
In our meeting in the. 2024-11-04 18:17:29
Quarterly meaning October 21st, 2020. 2024-11-04 18:17:32
Four, which was put to a vote. 2024-11-04 18:17:35
After having created a rubric and. 2024-11-04 18:17:38
Scoring mechanism and. 2024-11-04 18:17:41
$280,000 of the funds have been. 2024-11-04 18:17:44
Scores about 280. 2024-11-04 18:17:50
490 dollars. 2024-11-04 18:17:53
We're proposed. 2024-11-04 18:17:56
To the full direct to find that there is. 2024-11-04 18:17:59
100% collected amount and. 2024-11-04 18:18:02
Rex has had as a recommendation now to the board. 2024-11-04 18:18:05
Knowing that the judges always stand for voting. 2024-11-04 18:18:08
As well as anyone. 2024-11-04 18:18:11
Interested party related to. 2024-11-04 18:18:14
And so they did not. 2024-11-04 18:18:20
Some members of Iraq who are. 2024-11-04 18:18:26
Process as well, because we hope. 2024-11-04 18:18:29
And so. 2024-11-04 18:18:32
Do you have the e-mail with the list? 2024-11-04 18:18:35
The scoring and the list and we have not and. 2024-11-04 18:18:38
We may know any honest. 2024-11-04 18:18:41
To the public because until it will be approved. 2024-11-04 18:18:44
Fund Commissioner was here in the final decision. 2024-11-04 18:18:47
So we're here today. We're making that recommendation. 2024-11-04 18:18:56
Anything else you want to add? 2024-11-04 18:18:59
With the approval from. 2024-11-04 18:19:02
I intend to send out an e-mail to. 2024-11-04 18:19:08
Nonrefunded on Wednesday and tomorrow. 2024-11-04 18:19:14
Letting them know and then we'll. 2024-11-04 18:19:17
Reception, so to speak. 2024-11-04 18:19:24
For those six winners? 2024-11-04 18:19:26
OK, this is a very. 2024-11-04 18:19:36
Educational process for the violin and he said. 2024-11-04 18:19:45
Two hours after everybody could. 2024-11-04 18:19:48
Gone through all 21 applications. 2024-11-04 18:19:51
And finalized everything together. 2024-11-04 18:19:54
It was great. You learn a lot. 2024-11-04 18:19:56
We also like to add before you vote on this. 2024-11-04 18:20:00
So there were. 2024-11-04 18:20:06
The total request I believe. 2024-11-04 18:20:09
It was over a million. 2024-11-04 18:20:15
We only had $280,000. 2024-11-04 18:20:18
Now. Soon. 2024-11-04 18:20:21
That February Eden and that first amount of fun. 2024-11-04 18:20:24
Were assigned to direct make recommendations. 2024-11-04 18:20:27
As you know, but as some. 2024-11-04 18:20:30
No. 2024-11-04 18:20:33
There were additional funds announced from the city. 2024-11-04 18:20:36
Them. 2024-11-04 18:20:39
And then there was a decision by the Commissioners. 2024-11-04 18:20:42
There is a separate ordinance. 2024-11-04 18:20:51
Unrestricted funds now and then they were. 2024-11-04 18:20:54
Criticized with, I recall. 2024-11-04 18:20:57
Over 50 nerds and maybe about 7:00. 2024-11-04 18:21:00
N. 2024-11-04 18:21:03
You asked Jay Rock to continue to make recommendation. 2024-11-04 18:21:06
So now. 2024-11-04 18:21:09
Have this process in place when that happened 1/2. 2024-11-04 18:21:12
Support agency to stand for effective public. 2024-11-04 18:21:21
They are guiding Ajax. 2024-11-04 18:21:24
In setting objective for. 2024-11-04 18:21:27
Primary. 2024-11-04 18:21:33
Thing with, you know, many mental health. 2024-11-04 18:21:36
Primary driver of that. 2024-11-04 18:21:42
And the primary costs are criminal. 2024-11-04 18:21:45
And so. 2024-11-04 18:21:48
For this piece of this will be data collection. 2024-11-04 18:21:51
So that the. 2024-11-04 18:21:54
Are being recommended to be awarded. 2024-11-04 18:21:57
Provide documentation and. 2024-11-04 18:22:03
Gathering data from criminal justice. 2024-11-04 18:22:06
That several other counties in Indiana. 2024-11-04 18:22:15
Here. 2024-11-04 18:22:18
There is set effective set performance measures. 2024-11-04 18:22:21
Looking look into how we can invest. 2024-11-04 18:22:24
For the benefit. 2024-11-04 18:22:27
Community, and in particular for those. 2024-11-04 18:22:30
OK. 2024-11-04 18:22:39
No, I mean I know that you 2 are going. 2024-11-04 18:22:42
Very passionate about that and so I can only. 2024-11-04 18:22:45
I am sure the rest of them. 2024-11-04 18:22:48
Group was as well if you had five of you working on this. 2024-11-04 18:22:51
Five were specifically assigned. There are 32. Yeah. 2024-11-04 18:22:54
There they. 2024-11-04 18:23:00
21 applications. 2024-11-04 18:23:03
And. 2024-11-04 18:23:03
Lord, find your soul in the period that was reminded. 2024-11-04 18:23:06
I'm familiar with those process. 2024-11-04 18:23:09
Out of devotion and work to do that well. 2024-11-04 18:23:12
Thank you both for your. 2024-11-04 18:23:15
Please extend my thanks for conveying my thanks. 2024-11-04 18:23:18
Everybody else on that team. 2024-11-04 18:23:21
So you need approval for the high. 2024-11-04 18:23:24
Highlighted areas to receive those amounts. 2024-11-04 18:23:27
He can move forward with that, correct? OK, so. 2024-11-04 18:23:30
Motion to approve those and I'll second. 2024-11-04 18:23:33
OK, all in favor, aye. When will that be made? 2024-11-04 18:23:36
Public, All right, So we'll be able to do that now. 2024-11-04 18:23:39
Wednesday. 2024-11-04 18:23:42
All of that potential, letting them out. 2024-11-04 18:23:45
And then we intend to go. 2024-11-04 18:23:48
In the newspaper without a. 2024-11-04 18:23:51
They don't know yet. The gentleman keep your. 2024-11-04 18:23:57
Yeah, yeah, that's, that's what I was trying to get at. OK. 2024-11-04 18:24:00
In the minute when the retinal carbon you guys in. 2024-11-04 18:24:03
OK. 2024-11-04 18:24:09
Would you just read that document? 2024-11-04 18:24:12
Into the OR we can have it into the record and. 2024-11-04 18:24:15
For our purposes, we'll just say that the yellow highlighted. 2024-11-04 18:24:18
Areas were approved in the amount. 2024-11-04 18:24:21
Summarize. 2024-11-04 18:24:24
So you want to let them know? Yeah. 2024-11-04 18:24:27
If you're comfortable with that, what are you gonna let him know with? 2024-11-04 18:24:33
Since tomorrow is. 2024-11-04 18:24:36
Yeah, so. 2024-11-04 18:24:39
Do a slow burn off. 2024-11-04 18:24:42
3rd. 2024-11-04 18:24:45
And then we'll schedule, we'll schedule an announcement. 2024-11-04 18:24:48
Time and hoping to do something. 2024-11-04 18:24:51
Special with that, so OK. 2024-11-04 18:24:54
Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. 2024-11-04 18:24:57
All righty Bush. 2024-11-04 18:25:00
I don't remember. 2024-11-04 18:25:12
So I'll be on the agenda. 2024-11-04 18:25:24
Reference but let you have a request this evening but I'm. 2024-11-04 18:25:27
Quick fly down a little bit of a history with the Frank speed or some. 2024-11-04 18:25:30
Building in 1994. 2024-11-04 18:25:33
When it was developed originally in the house. 2024-11-04 18:25:36
The jail, the Sheriff's Office normally. 2024-11-04 18:25:39
Police Department kind of addition to. 2024-11-04 18:25:42
County building, which was built in 1961. 2024-11-04 18:25:45
It's nothing up, but that's all right. 2024-11-04 18:25:48
In 2008 or requested I was in. 2024-11-04 18:25:51
Time and we requested along with the President of the. 2024-11-04 18:25:54
The Sheriff's Office Flt in reference to change their name and honor. 2024-11-04 18:25:58
Frank Denzinger, who was killed in the line of duty in 2000. 2024-11-04 18:26:01
7 and so that name was changed. 2024-11-04 18:26:04
In 2008, the honor frame. 2024-11-04 18:26:06
In 2017 renovation. 2024-11-04 18:26:10
Miguel took place finished. 2024-11-04 18:26:12
To basically housing. 2024-11-04 18:26:16
Our inmates were increased at that time, the way I understand it. 2024-11-04 18:26:19
Your deterioration of the jail in different areas. 2024-11-04 18:26:22
And so by doing the renovation and that additional. 2024-11-04 18:26:25
Bunks and improved building infrastructure. 2024-11-04 18:26:28
Electrical and IT and talk about some of them. 2024-11-04 18:26:31
Issues already even after the remarks. 2024-11-04 18:26:34
2422. 2024-11-04 18:26:40
City of involve me alone Police Department start. 2024-11-04 18:26:43
Build their own police station, which they did. 2024-11-04 18:26:45
Building for many years, paying rent. 2024-11-04 18:26:49
So they decided to build their own, which is. 2024-11-04 18:26:52
Scrivener as you can see in that rendering. 2024-11-04 18:26:55
That will be completed, we're being told, in January. 2024-11-04 18:26:58
Of 25 S the next. 2024-11-04 18:27:01
Type in two months vacation. 2024-11-04 18:27:04
That building, so as we come before you, I've had several. 2024-11-04 18:27:07
Discussions over the last several months in reference to that. 2024-11-04 18:27:10
Time frame coming up. 2024-11-04 18:27:13
We are looking to move forward with housing and the Sheriff's Office. 2024-11-04 18:27:16
In that facility and you'll see a rendering. 2024-11-04 18:27:19
Here what the facade on the outside could look like. 2024-11-04 18:27:22
As a new Fort Arc local developer. 2024-11-04 18:27:25
Gave us that rendering of kind of what it would look like. 2024-11-04 18:27:28
At that point, some of the issues that were going. 2024-11-04 18:27:31
Looking at while, we believe we need the whole space. 2024-11-04 18:27:34
We are looking at moving our training division or training room with the. 2024-11-04 18:27:37
Currently to the second floor. 2024-11-04 18:27:40
When you all be moved out, they're going to occupy. 2024-11-04 18:27:43
1st floor when you first go in the building. 2024-11-04 18:27:46
2nd floor in the basement, all that area. 2024-11-04 18:27:48
Divisions are next door to each other, so that's all we have on this. 2024-11-04 18:27:52
2nd floor and then of course our office. 2024-11-04 18:27:55
So what we're looking at is some of the issues. 2024-11-04 18:27:58
We're just running out space and we're just based around space. 2024-11-04 18:28:01
Is the main thing and we really don't have an interest to the office. 2024-11-04 18:28:04
Allow that to happen at that time. 2024-11-04 18:28:07
What we are proposing? 2024-11-04 18:28:10
Great detail is just keep it generic in terms of that. 2024-11-04 18:28:13
Mains in that state, and that's what we're talking. 2024-11-04 18:28:16
Colton denied, along with the parking lot that's out front. 2024-11-04 18:28:19
I'm working with the building authority in terms of. 2024-11-04 18:28:22
Parking lot and we've already had a couple. 2024-11-04 18:28:25
Discussions anyway, regardless of how the parking lot is. 2024-11-04 18:28:28
And what the future of that looks like as well. 2024-11-04 18:28:31
Judges before and some other folks of how we manage. 2024-11-04 18:28:34
The mechanical story. So here's the first. 2024-11-04 18:28:40
For kind of a rendering of. 2024-11-04 18:28:43
What it would be This is the current lobby. 2024-11-04 18:28:46
That we have currently so. 2024-11-04 18:28:49
That would almost say the same. 2024-11-04 18:28:52
What we're looking at, you can see. 2024-11-04 18:28:55
Kind of what we were thinking at that point in time. Another. 2024-11-04 18:28:58
Effect of what? We don't have a lot of space as an attorney. 2024-11-04 18:29:01
So. 2024-11-04 18:29:04
Right now, but if you don't have a lot of faith and we've also talked. 2024-11-04 18:29:07
Spoke with some judges in reference to. 2024-11-04 18:29:10
So whatever y'all decide down the road, which I know it's a couple years. 2024-11-04 18:29:13
Expensive down the road, but we still need to plan for while we have the opportunity. 2024-11-04 18:29:16
Of awful zoom take. 2024-11-04 18:29:19
So we're taking that into consideration as well, but. 2024-11-04 18:29:22
You can see a rendering of that first floor. 2024-11-04 18:29:25
Lobby right there, make sure. 2024-11-04 18:29:28
I got that correct, yeah. 2024-11-04 18:29:31
Yeah. So the next slide is second floor. 2024-11-04 18:29:34
Technically currently where our administrators also. 2024-11-04 18:29:37
Or we'll move them down where the city. 2024-11-04 18:29:40
And you can see how we manage. 2024-11-04 18:29:43
Different offices that we have there on the second. 2024-11-04 18:29:46
Floor. We would bring our training room back down. 2024-11-04 18:29:49
Along with our detective division that would manage that whole state. 2024-11-04 18:29:52
Yeah, so that. 2024-11-04 18:29:55
Nutshell, that's kind of the proposal. 2024-11-04 18:29:58
I know there's been some discussions back and forth on council. 2024-11-04 18:30:01
Could go there over the years. 2024-11-04 18:30:04
I truly believe that we would do all that space. 2024-11-04 18:30:07
We have our court team over in the county building. They would have. 2024-11-04 18:30:10
Come out of that building no matter what you all do with that building. 2024-11-04 18:30:13
And so they would move in where we're at now currently as we move down. 2024-11-04 18:30:16
All of our space will be utilized. 2024-11-04 18:30:19
Utilize the basin as well, but I'm going to. 2024-11-04 18:30:22
Discussions that we can have a little bit more discussion now, but my. 2024-11-04 18:30:28
Request an item for you to allow us to move forward because then. 2024-11-04 18:30:31
60 days or so you'll be moving out. 2024-11-04 18:30:34
Really used our planet for that space. 2024-11-04 18:30:37
OK, open them. 2024-11-04 18:30:43
Well, just a comment and maybe a question. 2024-11-04 18:30:46
As well, I know there was discussion about. 2024-11-04 18:30:49
Down there, but you know, just my. 2024-11-04 18:30:52
For commitment past several years. 2024-11-04 18:30:55
You know, I think they need to be. 2024-11-04 18:30:58
Away from a building like that for several reasons that. 2024-11-04 18:31:01
One, they also have their. 2024-11-04 18:31:04
Center and I know when they were up at the right. 2024-11-04 18:31:07
Building they had their had a large room for the event. 2024-11-04 18:31:10
Emergency and like with. 2024-11-04 18:31:13
During covet four years ago, we used our C. 2024-11-04 18:31:16
Down here, so I don't really don't think there's enough room for. 2024-11-04 18:31:19
Office as well As for the conference. 2024-11-04 18:31:23
And on top of that, when it's being used parking. 2024-11-04 18:31:25
You'll park in his Windsor down there. So you mean they've got. 2024-11-04 18:31:28
Meetings and you know for them to have ample. 2024-11-04 18:31:31
And it's going to be, it's going to be an issue, you know, but first. 2024-11-04 18:31:35
I think EMA needs to be not in the same building. 2024-11-04 18:31:38
They do. I mean, we have a capacity, you know, Jason. 2024-11-04 18:31:40
Been around for long time, you understand those command and control area. 2024-11-04 18:31:43
You know, that could be, you know, down there. 2024-11-04 18:31:46
Those different options. 2024-11-04 18:31:53
With that as well, we can talk about as well. 2024-11-04 18:31:55
His office, he has no no intent on wanting to come to that build. 2024-11-04 18:31:59
You have the city Police Department, one corner. 2024-11-04 18:32:02
A good fit for that area along with the kind of building. 2024-11-04 18:32:05
Both readers are just a lot of moving parts right now. 2024-11-04 18:32:14
As far as the future of what game looks like, as far as. 2024-11-04 18:32:17
Looks like and all. Everything looks like at some point. 2024-11-04 18:32:20
We've got to put people someplace and obviously. 2024-11-04 18:32:23
Order. The Sheriff's Department is a member of that department. 2024-11-04 18:32:26
So you know, I just. 2024-11-04 18:32:29
I think that as of right now, I would like to. 2024-11-04 18:32:32
More things to play out before I made that kind of commitment. 2024-11-04 18:32:34
Knowing that with appetite is just having discussed. 2024-11-04 18:32:38
What? What would you go? There's nothing you know there. 2024-11-04 18:32:41
Probation there before that makes no sense. 2024-11-04 18:32:44
Make any sense for basically downstairs office and we have? 2024-11-04 18:32:47
We have things that we don't want the general public or any other office. 2024-11-04 18:32:50
Sure. Here if we have discussions, we have meetings. 2024-11-04 18:32:53
Or whatever that case may be. So you know why. 2024-11-04 18:32:56
I disagree with you, but also respectfully. 2024-11-04 18:32:59
I'm looking at the future as well and when I see what. 2024-11-04 18:33:02
I know what you're all doing in terms of how you're looking to teach, but nothing makes. 2024-11-04 18:33:05
To go there, whether it be in that DNA process. 2024-11-04 18:33:08
His office, you know, that building is really limited. 2024-11-04 18:33:11
GAIL is gonna be limited if you decide to build the county building there, so. 2024-11-04 18:33:14
Landlocked and so this just makes sense because. 2024-11-04 18:33:17
We'll eventually have to move our 14 mouth. The training room has. 2024-11-04 18:33:20
Come out time to if you're going to look at doing someone time view. 2024-11-04 18:33:23
There's a lot of things I can see even down the future. 2024-11-04 18:33:26
A lot of stuff that you know up, up from the air. 2024-11-04 18:33:29
Two years down the road so that. 2024-11-04 18:33:32
I mean, ideally we have another payment tenant. 2024-11-04 18:33:38
There, but it said that's not going to happen. I can't conceive of what type of. 2024-11-04 18:33:41
How that would workout, you know? 2024-11-04 18:33:44
And other pains in it, yeah. 2024-11-04 18:33:47
Cities moving out? I guess so, yeah. 2024-11-04 18:33:50
The. 2024-11-04 18:33:53
I want to recommend that we table this tonight. 2024-11-04 18:33:56
I like the concept and I like the idea. 2024-11-04 18:33:59
Put you off forever. So I think we probably ought to have some sort of. 2024-11-04 18:34:02
But we do have an election tomorrow and. 2024-11-04 18:34:05
There was a guy here earlier who had an eye load today. 2024-11-04 18:34:08
Italian election tomorrow. 2024-11-04 18:34:11
So there's an election tomorrow and I regard. 2024-11-04 18:34:14
Who wins the the Commissioners? 2024-11-04 18:34:17
Great. I think it might be interesting for. 2024-11-04 18:34:20
Have a look at it too. 2024-11-04 18:34:23
Just for input, just for expertise home. 2024-11-04 18:34:26
For for other thought but. 2024-11-04 18:34:29
I really think we could probably give them some direction on this. 2024-11-04 18:34:32
The end of the year for sure. 2024-11-04 18:34:35
Funding for remodeling. 2024-11-04 18:34:38
Gotten that forehead and you're thinking? 2024-11-04 18:34:41
Have in place. Is that something that commitments to be? 2024-11-04 18:34:47
Take out a different fund you might pay for. 2024-11-04 18:34:50
Some things, but not a lot. So that's that's another discussion. 2024-11-04 18:34:53
And that's going to dictate a lot than the timetable. 2024-11-04 18:34:59
For those renovations or anything like that, but yeah, I, I. 2024-11-04 18:35:02
I think it makes good logical sense and. 2024-11-04 18:35:05
Give a little bit of time, maybe put. 2024-11-04 18:35:08
It's on the TV. OK come from putting this on the. 2024-11-04 18:35:11
First meeting in December. 2024-11-04 18:35:14
Yeah. I mean, I think it needs to be addressed this year. 2024-11-04 18:35:17
Certainty. 2024-11-04 18:35:20
And I'm OK move to move on tonight because I mean, I know. 2024-11-04 18:35:23
We had discussions couple years ago, the previous year. 2024-11-04 18:35:26
For the same thing as far as. 2024-11-04 18:35:29
I don't see why there's any difference here. I mean, they need me. 2024-11-04 18:35:32
Need to grow and at that time I was against. 2024-11-04 18:35:35
Because we were looking at putting. 2024-11-04 18:35:38
Corrections down there and that's not going to happen. 2024-11-04 18:35:41
So you know I give all my help but I think this. 2024-11-04 18:35:44
A good plan, you know, for the expansion. So. 2024-11-04 18:35:47
Is it possible it's something negotiated maybe on the next week? 2024-11-04 18:35:50
Instead of waiting till December, we can put it on the ad agenda. 2024-11-04 18:35:53
We can only table it again if we're not ready. 2024-11-04 18:35:56
Yeah. So put it on the second meeting in November. 2024-11-04 18:35:59
If we don't have the confidence. 2024-11-04 18:36:02
Move forward at that point in time we get later we're. 2024-11-04 18:36:05
Tabling thing. I'm still looking forward to that walkthrough. 2024-11-04 18:36:08
OK, so. 2024-11-04 18:36:11
Look for motion to table this until second meeting of the movement. 2024-11-04 18:36:14
Motion to prove OK. 2024-11-04 18:36:17
You made a motion to approve. 2024-11-04 18:36:20
Table OK, all right and 2nd. 2024-11-04 18:36:23
Table all in favor. 2024-11-04 18:36:26
All right, County Attorney Rick Fox. 2024-11-04 18:36:29
OK. 2024-11-04 18:36:32
We passed the resolution to buy a vac truck. 2024-11-04 18:36:35
And in addition. 2024-11-04 18:36:38
You have a resolution in front of you. 2024-11-04 18:36:41
To purchase. 2024-11-04 18:36:44
Mccallac excavator and attachments. 2024-11-04 18:36:47
And, umm. 2024-11-04 18:36:50
With approval of this. 2024-11-04 18:36:53
That will take care of. 2024-11-04 18:36:56
The statutory approvals that we need and all. 2024-11-04 18:36:59
To purchase the equipment and then. 2024-11-04 18:37:02
I will follow up after you approve the resolution. 2024-11-04 18:37:05
With documents associ. 2024-11-04 18:37:08
Created with pain. 2024-11-04 18:37:11
The purchase of the equipment off. 2024-11-04 18:37:14
Because, to clarify, it's not. 2024-11-04 18:37:17
An additional expenditure. This is already. 2024-11-04 18:37:20
With that previous, that is correct, yeah. 2024-11-04 18:37:23
A motion to approve. 2024-11-04 18:37:26
Make a motion to approve Floyd County Resolution 20249. 2024-11-04 18:37:29
19 Resolution to purchase the Mecca Light. 2024-11-04 18:37:32
Later and the attachment. 2024-11-04 18:37:35
And I will label. 2024-11-04 18:37:36
Second. OK, the motion is second. 2024-11-04 18:37:38
Aye, aye. 2024-11-04 18:37:41
Honey ho if you're a TV Herman fan. 2024-11-04 18:37:48
So it is Makalak as opposed to McCallum. 2024-11-04 18:37:51
Absolutely. 2024-11-04 18:37:53
Cadillac. Yeah. 2024-11-04 18:37:57
Yeah, there you go. 2024-11-04 18:38:00
All right. And then. 2024-11-04 18:38:03
The accompanying item on that in terms of. 2024-11-04 18:38:05
Financing documents it calls for. 2024-11-04 18:38:09
20 payments of. 2024-11-04 18:38:12
40,406. 2024-11-04 18:38:15
80 and the 1st. 2024-11-04 18:38:18
Two days, January 1 of 2025. 2024-11-04 18:38:21
And every six months. 2024-11-04 18:38:24
Is a payment is due through July 1. 2024-11-04 18:38:27
Of 2034. 2024-11-04 18:38:29
All right. 2024-11-04 18:38:33
Bought a six inch. 2024-11-04 18:38:36
Yeah, we've. 2024-11-04 18:38:39
Already allocated your earmark. 2024-11-04 18:38:42
Are coming from and discuss those previously the most. 2024-11-04 18:38:45
Motion to prove out on favor. 2024-11-04 18:38:48
Aye, aye. All right, Board. 2024-11-04 18:38:51
Committee report. 2024-11-04 18:38:54
OK on Monday, October 21st. 2024-11-04 18:39:00
Attend the full J Rag board meeting at noon. 2024-11-04 18:39:03
The next day on. 2024-11-04 18:39:06
I can have met with flew by myself. 2024-11-04 18:39:09
Susanna and Michelle to review our. 2024-11-04 18:39:12
2024 usage. 2024-11-04 18:39:15
A day attended the joint County Council meeting. 2024-11-04 18:39:18
On Thursday, attended the Kipton Bean by Zoom. 2024-11-04 18:39:21
And later that night I attended the Highlander District meeting. 2024-11-04 18:39:24
At the Lafayette Park station. 2024-11-04 18:39:27
And then last Wednesday, we attended. 2024-11-04 18:39:30
Continue to negotiate. 2024-11-04 18:39:33
With the Teamsters for contract for 2025. 2024-11-04 18:39:36
6:00 and 7:00 so cancel. 2024-11-04 18:39:39
Likewise, it's gone on the October 15th in 20. 2024-11-04 18:39:42
If we have had babies with the negotiation committee, with the. 2024-11-04 18:39:45
Collective bargaining unit for the county. 2024-11-04 18:39:48
Row workers and those negotiations are. 2024-11-04 18:39:51
And then October 22nd, we had to join. 2024-11-04 18:39:54
Commissioner Council meeting where we talked about several. 2024-11-04 18:39:57
Items including the Chase Bank purchase. 2024-11-04 18:40:00
Building in the new health department. 2024-11-04 18:40:03
Very good. That's it. 2024-11-04 18:40:06
My my dog ate my list so. 2024-11-04 18:40:09
Could be impact. 2024-11-04 18:40:12
Yeah, sounds like I was busy at least. 2024-11-04 18:40:15
You guys so I. 2024-11-04 18:40:18
Any government officials tonight with any. 2024-11-04 18:40:21
Yeah, Judge. 2024-11-04 18:40:24
Where? 2024-11-04 18:40:27
I didn't realize the sheriff was going to be speaking tonight. 2024-11-04 18:40:30
In APD space but. 2024-11-04 18:40:36
I just wanted to reiterate just because there were a couple. 2024-11-04 18:40:39
Things that I had been raising with him that. 2024-11-04 18:40:42
I thought were important and. 2024-11-04 18:40:45
Unbeknownst to me, he was gonna be coming to talk to you. 2024-11-04 18:40:48
I don't know that I'll be in the next meeting. 2024-11-04 18:40:51
So I wanted to kind of let you know on a couple of issues. 2024-11-04 18:40:54
Number one. 2024-11-04 18:40:57
In talking with Sharon and I've been. 2024-11-04 18:41:00
Working together because the jail. 2024-11-04 18:41:03
We've got what? 2024-11-04 18:41:09
350 people today, that's about. 2024-11-04 18:41:12
100 up on a regular basis from where we were. 2024-11-04 18:41:15
A couple years ago, but. 2024-11-04 18:41:18
One of the things that we want. 2024-11-04 18:41:21
To keep things moving, is being able to have. 2024-11-04 18:41:24
The lawyers meeting with their clients. 2024-11-04 18:41:27
And now, not only lawyers, but. 2024-11-04 18:41:30
There are a lot of other programs and things going on to deal with. 2024-11-04 18:41:33
We're finding to be very successful. 2024-11-04 18:41:36
In terms of our jail transition coordinator? 2024-11-04 18:41:39
System of care is in there meeting with people. 2024-11-04 18:41:42
Incidents happen before so much. 2024-11-04 18:41:48
And with more defendants. 2024-11-04 18:41:51
That's more lawyer meeting, so essentially we're having a space. 2024-11-04 18:41:54
This issue with the rooms available. 2024-11-04 18:41:57
These are the same rooms that they use for the Zoom meeting. 2024-11-04 18:42:00
My understanding of The thing is. 2024-11-04 18:42:03
But there's also. 2024-11-04 18:42:06
Zoom hearings that are conducted for not only. 2024-11-04 18:42:09
But also for. 2024-11-04 18:42:12
The inmates or other courts that they have, other courts that they're in. 2024-11-04 18:42:15
Court proceedings have to go through. 2024-11-04 18:42:18
Or even in our course sometimes if they're belligerent and. 2024-11-04 18:42:21
Other thing that you know that I was thinking about in this. 2024-11-04 18:42:27
Talk to the other judges as far as training for going forward. 2024-11-04 18:42:30
Would be the benefit of. 2024-11-04 18:42:33
The availability of Zoom conferencing. 2024-11-04 18:42:36
Do that. 2024-11-04 18:42:39
There would be the ability to do it in the. 2024-11-04 18:42:42
And randomly is what I'm talking about now that. 2024-11-04 18:42:45
A little bit down the road, but if you're in planning for that. 2024-11-04 18:42:48
So these are all the same purposes that they bring. 2024-11-04 18:42:51
Said really they don't have and so. 2024-11-04 18:42:54
I was secondizing. 2024-11-04 18:42:57
Yeah, but that's something that. 2024-11-04 18:43:00
Not only to the fair, but also to the poor. 2024-11-04 18:43:03
For moving court cases forward and through. 2024-11-04 18:43:06
That's the primary thing. Also the 14. 2024-11-04 18:43:12
I just want to put a sound out there they do. 2024-11-04 18:43:15
Currently on the 3rd floor afternoon. 2024-11-04 18:43:21
And that's interesting. 2024-11-04 18:43:24
Of course, but you know they have. 2024-11-04 18:43:27
Nearby, so it's another safe issue. 2024-11-04 18:43:30
Just from the courts perspective, the parking has been great there. 2024-11-04 18:43:33
And so just more things. 2024-11-04 18:43:42
Location there there are there is very limited parking. 2024-11-04 18:43:45
I think we still need a spot there for the. 2024-11-04 18:43:48
But that's a really critical thing. 2024-11-04 18:43:54
Thank you there. So appreciate his consciousness. 2024-11-04 18:43:57
OK. Thank you and we are going to have time. 2024-11-04 18:44:03
Public comment, but I want to before I forget I. 2024-11-04 18:44:06
The commissioners leave minutes for October 15, 2020. 2024-11-04 18:44:09
For. 2024-11-04 18:44:12
And approval of payroll. 2024-11-04 18:44:15
Plane. 2024-11-04 18:44:18
OK, all in favor, aye? 2024-11-04 18:44:21
And we did have storm water meeting at 4:30 today and our. 2024-11-04 18:44:25
Next meeting will be Monday, November 19th, 2024. 2024-11-04 18:44:27
At 6:00 PM. 2024-11-04 18:44:30
Public time. 2024-11-04 18:44:30
Yes, please. 2024-11-04 18:44:33
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm pretty much. 2024-11-04 18:44:40
Put in front of me. I'm sorry as Tuesday. 2024-11-04 18:44:43
19/20/24, 6:00 PM. 2024-11-04 18:44:45
Town Township either the meetings on real. 2024-11-04 18:44:52
Somebody had to put that back yet. 2024-11-04 18:44:55
Haven't you heard the Glee? The county is this? 2024-11-04 18:44:58
Not to honor the fall back just like. 2024-11-04 18:45:01
But the city is going to. 2024-11-04 18:45:04
It'll all be fine. 2024-11-04 18:45:07
Meetings make sure that that is. 2024-11-04 18:45:10
For the record. 2024-11-04 18:45:13
Make a video part of the record. 2024-11-04 18:45:16
And there was voluminous laughter. 2024-11-04 18:45:19
Yeah, I want to do that. 2024-11-04 18:45:22
I think I want to bring something up and. 2024-11-04 18:45:25
I'm just asking you to consider it. Don't. 2024-11-04 18:45:28
Need or even desire response right now? 2024-11-04 18:45:31
When you take over something. 2024-11-04 18:45:34
PSU slightly before but. 2024-11-04 18:45:37
We are a democracy and we are Republicans. 2024-11-04 18:45:40
Employment democracy because otherwise we referenced the. 2024-11-04 18:45:43
And everything, you gentlemen in the Council. 2024-11-04 18:45:46
The elected officials are as. 2024-11-04 18:45:49
You know, hired 2. 2024-11-04 18:45:52
Speak for us to represent our interests and. 2024-11-04 18:45:55
Basically, cease to say it works, taxpayers. 2024-11-04 18:45:58
Citizens, but I want your employees. 2024-11-04 18:46:01
But you know your duties, and you have to. 2024-11-04 18:46:04
Fits into the public, takes them in, but before you make a decision. 2024-11-04 18:46:07
I have a. 2024-11-04 18:46:10
I have two things I'd like to consider. 2024-11-04 18:46:13
One is to allow. 2024-11-04 18:46:16
I've been in this for special meetings and hearings. 2024-11-04 18:46:19
That consider allowing public. 2024-11-04 18:46:22
Before you vote on some. 2024-11-04 18:46:25
Items some of the things mundane, but. 2024-11-04 18:46:28
There's other things that people here for and they don't get. 2024-11-04 18:46:31
Express your ask about their. 2024-11-04 18:46:34
Express their opinions about it the public comment. 2024-11-04 18:46:37
Meeting when it's too late, the other thing I wanted. 2024-11-04 18:46:40
Consider is. 2024-11-04 18:46:43
I've been coming here for over 12 years and. 2024-11-04 18:46:46
Other things for a long time, but. 2024-11-04 18:46:52
Recently he bought his changes. 2024-11-04 18:46:55
Policy from public comments and questions. 2024-11-04 18:46:58
Public comments and I knew it sometimes. 2024-11-04 18:47:01
You allow questions, but a lot of. 2024-11-04 18:47:04
And I think that it's a. 2024-11-04 18:47:07
Important for transparency and partic. 2024-11-04 18:47:10
Patience that the public ought to be allowed to. 2024-11-04 18:47:13
Questions because? 2024-11-04 18:47:16
Participate in the process. 2024-11-04 18:47:19
Input until after the ghost and it's too late. 2024-11-04 18:47:22
How can we be informed? 2024-11-04 18:47:25
About what is happening or what's going to happen. 2024-11-04 18:47:28
If we're not allowed to ask questions of something, we can. 2024-11-04 18:47:31
Just witnessed the endowment vote. Your actions or comments? 2024-11-04 18:47:34
People come here to observe their. 2024-11-04 18:47:37
Participate but I think. 2024-11-04 18:47:40
Those. 2024-11-04 18:47:43
Opportunities as administrative. 2024-11-04 18:47:46
Without any input before a vote, I would not let the. 2024-11-04 18:47:49
Question at the end of the meeting to figure out. 2024-11-04 18:47:52
What just went on? 2024-11-04 18:47:54
So I'd like you to consider both of those. 2024-11-04 18:47:55
Concepts, whatever. 2024-11-04 18:47:58
And, you know, maybe we'll talk about his next meeting. 2024-11-04 18:48:01
OK. Thank you. 2024-11-04 18:48:04
Yeah, I'm happy to comment on that in the moment. 2024-11-04 18:48:07
I don't know if we're in a treatment a little bit early night. 2024-11-04 18:48:10
But you know. 2024-11-04 18:48:13
Other boards have very very rigid. 2024-11-04 18:48:16
Procedures for. 2024-11-04 18:48:19
For that type of thing, some don't allow. 2024-11-04 18:48:22
And when I was president of the. 2024-11-04 18:48:25
City Council, we had signed. 2024-11-04 18:48:28
For the beginning, and I'm willing to do that if I. 2024-11-04 18:48:31
I get a feeling or consensus that that's what people want. 2024-11-04 18:48:34
But if we do that, it does. 2024-11-04 18:48:37
Somewhat. You know, when I came over here, there was. 2024-11-04 18:48:40
Tradition that is in place and I've kind of followed that and honored it, but. 2024-11-04 18:48:43
The format would roughly be an uplift for. 2024-11-04 18:48:46
Comment between now and the next meeting. 2024-11-04 18:48:49
You could sign up. 2024-11-04 18:48:52
Be what you had to say what you were. 2024-11-04 18:48:55
Before on the agenda, find anything that was. 2024-11-04 18:48:58
Not on the agenda with a non agenda item. 2024-11-04 18:49:01
And I think we. 2024-11-04 18:49:04
Talked about that a few meetings back, but for. 2024-11-04 18:49:07
We just didn't push through on it so. 2024-11-04 18:49:10
I'm more than willing to contemplate and put something like that. 2024-11-04 18:49:13
Into place the question part of. 2024-11-04 18:49:16
A little bit different because. 2024-11-04 18:49:19
We don't always have the answers to the questions. 2024-11-04 18:49:22
We're not comfortable saying that. I'm not prepared to comment or any. 2024-11-04 18:49:25
Answer that at this point in time. 2024-11-04 18:49:28
With some folks who come to these meetings. 2024-11-04 18:49:31
Want to come to the meeting they would like to leave so I. 2024-11-04 18:49:34
My personal policy has always been I'll stick around after. 2024-11-04 18:49:37
Answer any questions that you might have about. 2024-11-04 18:49:40
Anything pertaining to the agenda or not? 2024-11-04 18:49:43
And Jason have always been really good about that, too. You don't see a. 2024-11-04 18:49:46
Running out the back corridor to do that and I think we. 2024-11-04 18:49:49
Taken all comers so probably continue to pursue. 2024-11-04 18:49:52
That policy rather than a public QA. 2024-11-04 18:49:55
Which you know. 2024-11-04 18:49:58
I think a lot of that could be done. 2024-11-04 18:50:01
More personally and more open-ended afterwards without. 2024-11-04 18:50:05
Of having to try to prolong. 2024-11-04 18:50:07
Thing that goes on, I mean, when I was on the City Council, some of me. 2024-11-04 18:50:10
For three hours. And that's so. 2024-11-04 18:50:13
We'll probably end up maybe trying. 2024-11-04 18:50:16
Halfway on that with regards to a sign in sheet. 2024-11-04 18:50:20
It would talk about what are you here to talk about, what you want to talk about. 2024-11-04 18:50:22
Agenda specific and then after. 2024-11-04 18:50:25
Towards non agenda items to do that. 2024-11-04 18:50:28
But I think has been pointed out in the past. 2024-11-04 18:50:32
Many boards don't have this type of back and forth. 2024-11-04 18:50:34
To begin with and by. 2024-11-04 18:50:37
Chapter consists of statute whatever. 2024-11-04 18:50:40
It is. It's really not designed to be AQ and A. 2024-11-04 18:50:43
Here, in the middle of a formal. 2024-11-04 18:50:46
Eating, but the Q&A should exist. 2024-11-04 18:50:49
Between employer and employee. 2024-11-04 18:50:52
Really. In an open-ended fact. 2024-11-04 18:50:55
I have people stop me at Kroger yesterday. That's great. 2024-11-04 18:50:59
I mean, you know, and I had multiple emails from other people. 2024-11-04 18:51:02
Throughout the day, so there are lots of ways to contact. 2024-11-04 18:51:04
About hey, what just happened or whatnot, then I. 2024-11-04 18:51:08
And can be handled. 2024-11-04 18:51:10
Privately. 2024-11-04 18:51:11
To your point though, I agree. Maybe, Maybe. 2024-11-04 18:51:14
Input from you. You came to speak on something beforehand. 2024-11-04 18:51:17
I'm open to that. 2024-11-04 18:51:20
Kind of up to the discretion of folks up here and I. 2024-11-04 18:51:23
I don't want to trap anybody who will be. 2024-11-04 18:51:26
Next week, you know, with my tradition or something like that. 2024-11-04 18:51:29
But I'm open to it. I appreciate your. 2024-11-04 18:51:31
Apologize. Can you consider talking like? 2024-11-04 18:51:35
First thing, the first input, I've been to the council. 2024-11-04 18:51:38
Meanings and Business School board meetings. 2024-11-04 18:51:40
It is only fair. 2024-11-04 18:51:41
They put in an agenda item. 2024-11-04 18:51:43
You can wait till the end of the meeting, so I I agree. 2024-11-04 18:51:47
With that, he signed in and should be on an agenda item. 2024-11-04 18:51:50
The only exception being something's attitude is. 2024-11-04 18:51:53
And that that the public is not aware of the. 2024-11-04 18:51:56
As far as the questions and answers. 2024-11-04 18:51:59
I understand some boys are more they did. 2024-11-04 18:52:02
Planning Board. Former Planning. 2024-11-04 18:52:05
Wrong. And all of that is very almost possible. 2024-11-04 18:52:11
The public input but. 2024-11-04 18:52:14
With the question, somebody doesn't. 2024-11-04 18:52:17
And then what? The boat just meant I'm not. 2024-11-04 18:52:20
People lining up for a business section. Excuse my. 2024-11-04 18:52:23
Question about what just happened. 2024-11-04 18:52:26
If you answer that publicly. 2024-11-04 18:52:29
Then somebody doesn't have to explain the rest. 2024-11-04 18:52:32
I've had people ******* hold me asking what this went on. 2024-11-04 18:52:35
And I forgive my best. Yes, I'm just. 2024-11-04 18:52:38
Considering and limiting it to. 2024-11-04 18:52:41
What's been discussed not come up and say hey, how come you let? 2024-11-04 18:52:44
Your dog join my lawn. You know, irrelevant stuff. 2024-11-04 18:52:47
Yeah, that's what the reason I brought it up is because. 2024-11-04 18:52:50
One question answered here. 2024-11-04 18:52:53
Save 100 people trying to figure out what. 2024-11-04 18:52:56
With you guys and you know out of the way. 2024-11-04 18:52:59
Meeting what happened? Yeah. And I understand where you're coming from. 2024-11-04 18:53:02
That's where I am on the Q&A at this moment in time. 2024-11-04 18:53:05
One of three. So I mean, I don't know. 2024-11-04 18:53:07
John. 2024-11-04 18:53:08
Jason, have any? 2024-11-04 18:53:10
Would there be any? 2024-11-04 18:53:11
You with us having people stop. 2024-11-04 18:53:14
Sign in with regards to a discussion on some of the attendees. 2024-11-04 18:53:17
Items. No, I think it's I think it would be great. 2024-11-04 18:53:20
Exactly the format that you would want to have that trained. 2024-11-04 18:53:23
In that discussion, especially in regard to some. 2024-11-04 18:53:26
That's going to be on the agenda. It's not like being here. 2024-11-04 18:53:29
From the commissioners having a direct conversation, it's not like. 2024-11-04 18:53:32
On the Internet behind a fake screen name putting that bad in. 2024-11-04 18:53:35
And I think it could be reasonable. 2024-11-04 18:53:38
Not, not a bunch of repeaters coming up. 2024-11-04 18:53:41
If so many just like you do with the crabbing meetings with someone. 2024-11-04 18:53:44
Brings up concerns and you say how many other? 2024-11-04 18:53:47
People feel that way. Yeah, we do that. We would probably have a. 2024-11-04 18:53:50
An overall limit and whatnot. 2024-11-04 18:53:53
Yeah, there's there's a way to procedurally handle that, but. 2024-11-04 18:53:56
Yeah, I'm fine with that. Only one time I think we did that. 2024-11-04 18:53:59
Milestone type of votes we. 2024-11-04 18:54:05
Try to allow that, but I don't think problem codifying that so. 2024-11-04 18:54:08
Safety considered because it does make it more. 2024-11-04 18:54:11
Meaningful and I know some people that have been here. 2024-11-04 18:54:14
Would like to have spoken. You can tell when it's been in. 2024-11-04 18:54:17
But then. 2024-11-04 18:54:20
You know, like stress, frustration. 2024-11-04 18:54:23
And I think I'd like to think. 2024-11-04 18:54:26
On that particular, it's a reasonable approach I will. 2024-11-04 18:54:29
I don't think anybody's ever had trouble getting ahold of. 2024-11-04 18:54:32
Any of us before a vote but on the issue. 2024-11-04 18:54:35
I've not heard of that. Maybe I get plenty of phone calls. 2024-11-04 18:54:38
And emails. I'm talking about people that aren't aware. 2024-11-04 18:54:41
Particularly as you back until just. 2024-11-04 18:54:44
Now see, that's the bridge down the street from you. 2024-11-04 18:54:50
Now, OK, not everybody. 2024-11-04 18:54:53
Not everybody that's interested. 2024-11-04 18:54:56
Beforehand, that's all. 2024-11-04 18:54:59
Fair enough. Any other public comments this evening? 2024-11-04 18:55:02
If not, I'll look for a motion. 2024-11-04 18:55:05
All right. All right. Thank you all. 2024-11-04 18:55:08
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