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We will bring the Floyd County Council public hearing August 13th to order. Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:03
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and. 00:00:11
To the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:15
Anybody who came in a little late, we have a sign in sheet at the podium. We'll have public comment. 00:00:25
After some of the information's gone over. 00:00:32
We're here. 00:00:35
Tonight for an introduction of the ordinance. 00:00:37
2408, which is an ordinance possibly modifying local income tax rates. 00:00:41
I'm not going to go through every line, but I will entertain a motion for discussion to get us started here. 00:00:49
It's almost. 00:00:58
I'll 2nd. 00:01:01
We have motion in a second. We are in discussion on the. 00:01:02
Proposed. 00:01:08
Lit formations or increases? 00:01:10
Denise is in teams but I don't know if she's been let in or not. She like OK. 00:01:14
She says she can't hear anything so. 00:01:21
OK. 00:01:25
Can you see her on the screen? 00:01:30
Denise, let us know when you. 00:01:36
Have audio? 00:01:39
Denise, are you there? 00:02:04
She's beautiful. 00:02:09
Can you hear us? 00:02:18
Can you guys hear me? Yeah, we've got you now. 00:02:21
OK. We've just just called the meeting, the order and we're starting discussion now. 00:02:26
Lit rates or formation of new lit um. 00:02:34
The ones we have on the agenda here are the public safety lit. 00:02:40
The EMS lit. 00:02:44
Or combination of the two. 00:02:45
The. 00:02:53
EMS lid is capped at a .20. 00:02:56
Percent rate and can be adjusted. 00:02:59
Anywhere from zero to .2 at a .01 increment. 00:03:05
Go ahead. 00:03:14
Well, and we just need to add to. 00:03:16
The public safety. 00:03:21
The public safety list would be shared. 00:03:24
With the city texted her and had her do that but I don't know if she. 00:03:28
Did that take care of it? 00:03:33
OK, Connie, repeat what you just said. So I'm not sure everybody heard, but. 00:03:38
The. 00:03:42
The public safety. 00:03:47
The public safety lit would be split. 00:03:50
It wouldn't be just the county getting the money. I wouldn't just the state. The city would also get some funding from. 00:03:54
There's a few other municipalities and organizations that can get a slight left. 00:04:03
VMS lit is. 00:04:10
Purely for EMS. 00:04:12
Capital and operations. 00:04:14
But that bucket of money would come to the county. 00:04:18
Only. 00:04:24
Correct. 00:04:25
Well, I think we. 00:04:35
We all at this body realized that there was a contract passed for EMS. 00:04:37
And. 00:04:43
We have to find a way to fund it. 00:04:45
Hence we check with Baker Tilly to. 00:04:48
Come up with this is one option to fund EMS. 00:04:51
I guess I'll just go ahead and say that. 00:04:55
Telling people all the time that. 00:04:57
Local government, specifically national and state government, is their whole reason for being in existence is. 00:05:00
Providing services and community, specifically local government. 00:05:09
So therefore, if we're going to provide EMS services. 00:05:13
Which it's we're not required to do, but it's I guess it's the right thing to do. We have to figure out a way to fund it. And this 00:05:18
is 1 mechanism of funding it through a tax, a lit tax that. 00:05:23
Like Connie said, goes directly to the county, but there's needs to be some negotiations going on with the city and in order to 00:05:30
just disperse that EMS funding. 00:05:35
And I'll add to that. 00:05:47
Dale, I think in the last conversation, at the last meeting we had, you know, the county doesn't want to. 00:05:49
Collect the taxes. 00:05:56
From the people in the county, in the city and hold all that money. 00:05:59
You know, we do want to work with the mayor. 00:06:02
Find out if he wants to go the same route we're going or if he wants to stay private or whatever he's he's wanting to do. And then 00:06:05
Debbie, it's some of that money. 00:06:11
So yeah, I mean, we don't want to. 00:06:25
Collect the money from all constituents in the county. 00:06:28
And the city and then keep their portion of of that money. 00:06:32
So yes, we would need to, absolutely. 00:06:36
Have some negotiation with the mayor and the city on how they want to. 00:06:40
Proceed with their EMS. 00:06:44
Let me just go over some impact numbers too. 00:06:47
Provided by Baker Tilly a lit rate of .2%. 00:06:50
On someone making $50,000 a year. 00:06:56
Is $100 annually, $8.33 a month? 00:06:59
Someone earning $75,000 per year is $150.00 per year or 12:50. 00:07:03
Per month and $100,000 is $200.00 annually or 1667 monthly. 00:07:10
You said the lit rate, are you talking? 00:07:18
Which which? 00:07:21
That's tax any lit at a .2%. 00:07:23
I didn't really specify which one, but. 00:07:30
That's the Max for the EMS. 00:07:33
Lynn 1/2. 00:07:35
What that generated year? 00:07:38
Their projections. 00:07:40
A little over 5 million. 00:07:44
Yeah, they've got it estimated at 5.8 million. 00:07:47
So if we you said we can only do it in increments at 1.01. 00:08:04
On 01 so we can't do. 00:08:10
.1550 point 1.2 Period. 00:08:12
No, you could do point 10.11.12. 00:08:16
I guess we need to determine what we know, what our costs are. 00:08:21
What 1.61.7 a year? 00:08:25
It's 1.41 point four that just under that, just under that and then I don't know how much we expect to. 00:08:29
Share it with the city. So we need to keep those things in mind. I'm necessarily need to know we need to raise $5,000,000 a year 00:08:36
if we're not spending $5 million. 00:08:40
Right. So .05 would cover the amount that we need. Now we don't know what the additional amount is going to be. I did have a 00:08:44
question. I haven't seen anywhere who controls this money once we set this, do we hold the purse, The commissioners hold the purse 00:08:51
because I'm afraid we're going to get in the situation again where we're going to. 00:08:57
Put too much money into this fund, and then it's gonna become a slush fund for somebody. That's exactly what I want to avoid 00:09:05
doing. I want to cover what we need and just keep it to the basics here instead of building up this slush fund. It's. But it's 00:09:11
very clear in statute it can only be used for EMS. Yeah, but it's still you can. It's still pretty vague. I mean, you can start 00:09:17
filling in cost for that other than the EMS service directly. 00:09:22
Who's to stop you from putting some task force director in there or something else that who decides? 00:09:29
That's what we need. That's what I'm concerned about. 00:09:36
I mean, right now we only, we're only talking two years here. 00:09:38
With this contract. 00:09:42
I've got a question about just. 00:09:47
The process tonight? 00:09:50
Is was this more of a public hearing to hear from the public on this or are we expected to take action? Is this just satisfying 00:09:53
the statute to to notify taxing units? I guess I just need to get a clarification of what action this portion of it satisfies the 00:10:01
statute for public hearing. If we choose to take action in our regular meeting, we can. 00:10:08
OK. 00:10:17
But we are going to hear from the public. 00:10:19
Absolutely. 00:10:21
Just trying to see if we're. 00:10:24
When we're through with discussion or. 00:10:26
At a pause and we can bring the public forward. 00:10:29
Are we there? 00:10:35
I think so. I think so. 00:10:36
Mr. Dale Mann. 00:10:46
Is there a time frame on this? Yeah, let's let's try to keep it to about. 00:10:47
3 minutes or so. 00:10:51
I'm sure you can do it. 00:10:53
Damn, man, Georgetown, I guess you know I'm against any tax increases. 00:10:56
But I think our taxpayers pay their fair share now. 00:11:01
And what bothers me about this under the guy that always came forward? 00:11:04
It said. You know, we're so tight for $39. 00:11:08
We could have the best EMS service available. I can't remember that gentleman's name, but he said it several times at several 00:11:12
meetings. And you're, you guys are already with this is $200.00 a year, $100 a year. That's nothing to some people, but it it's a 00:11:17
lot to a lot of people. 00:11:23
And I could put on my Facebook page, I can't ask my Social Security, give me a raise to pay this. If you're working, maybe you can 00:11:30
do that. I'm retired. I can't do that. 00:11:35
And you got it. You got the CCD tax that's raising. I see where the. 00:11:41
Judicial system, it went up to seven. It's going up to 7 from 4:00. 00:11:46
It just keeps going. 00:11:51
And when's it going to stop? When's it going to stop? Till you run me out of town? Till you run everybody else out of town? When's 00:11:53
it going to stop? 00:11:56
And I'm also on the impact committee, impact fee committee, we have come up with that yet, but I. 00:12:01
Way the state is, it won't generate that much funds to get us out of anything. 00:12:07
And that's not going to be our answer, but I hope it's a lot of answer. But we should have impact fee 1015 years ago, we wouldn't 00:12:12
be in the mess we're in right now. 00:12:17
Thank you. I'm against any tax increase y'all put on us. Thank you. 00:12:22
Thank you, Dale. 00:12:26
Mark. 00:12:28
Gin or gin? 00:12:30
Mark Gim. 00:12:33
Hey, don't work in Albany Township. Got some mailing address? But that's the Postal Service for you. 00:12:39
I'm not opposed to tax increases are up here. I mean, these are the basic, some of the basic functions of county government. So 00:12:48
no, no opposition at all in that respect. 00:12:54
My question is a taxpayer is especially the EMS side. I would like to see what is your vision? 00:13:00
Efficient as a place you want to be ultimately. So what's your vision and what's your plan to at least start getting there? 00:13:07
Because I've attended some of these meetings on the on the EMS services Firebase might be possible but all I'm seeing is turf wars 00:13:13
and egos so far that's not the way to get there I. 00:13:18
So I would like. 00:13:26
Put out in front of the public. 00:13:28
This. I mean, I think Sheriff Bush has got the law enforcement side of it under control. 00:13:30
On the EMS side, tell us where, where do we plan to go and give us a concrete plan to at least start getting it. So you may not 00:13:36
know how to get there all the way, but have some have some incremental steps laid out. 00:13:42
That's a responsible, that's to me, that's responsible government. 00:13:50
And I'd like. That's what I like to see. 00:13:53
Thank you. 00:13:55
Does anybody else have any further discussion on? 00:14:02
Any or all of these proposed lits? 00:14:07
Motion to adjourn this public hearing. 00:14:14
So moved. 00:14:18
And a second. 00:14:20
On there, aye. 00:14:22
We are adjourned. We have a 6:00 regular meeting in 15 minutes. 00:14:24
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It's done. 00:00:00
We will bring the Floyd County Council public hearing August 13th to order. Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:03
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and. 00:00:11
To the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:15
Anybody who came in a little late, we have a sign in sheet at the podium. We'll have public comment. 00:00:25
After some of the information's gone over. 00:00:32
We're here. 00:00:35
Tonight for an introduction of the ordinance. 00:00:37
2408, which is an ordinance possibly modifying local income tax rates. 00:00:41
I'm not going to go through every line, but I will entertain a motion for discussion to get us started here. 00:00:49
It's almost. 00:00:58
I'll 2nd. 00:01:01
We have motion in a second. We are in discussion on the. 00:01:02
Proposed. 00:01:08
Lit formations or increases? 00:01:10
Denise is in teams but I don't know if she's been let in or not. She like OK. 00:01:14
She says she can't hear anything so. 00:01:21
OK. 00:01:25
Can you see her on the screen? 00:01:30
Denise, let us know when you. 00:01:36
Have audio? 00:01:39
Denise, are you there? 00:02:04
She's beautiful. 00:02:09
Can you hear us? 00:02:18
Can you guys hear me? Yeah, we've got you now. 00:02:21
OK. We've just just called the meeting, the order and we're starting discussion now. 00:02:26
Lit rates or formation of new lit um. 00:02:34
The ones we have on the agenda here are the public safety lit. 00:02:40
The EMS lit. 00:02:44
Or combination of the two. 00:02:45
The. 00:02:53
EMS lid is capped at a .20. 00:02:56
Percent rate and can be adjusted. 00:02:59
Anywhere from zero to .2 at a .01 increment. 00:03:05
Go ahead. 00:03:14
Well, and we just need to add to. 00:03:16
The public safety. 00:03:21
The public safety list would be shared. 00:03:24
With the city texted her and had her do that but I don't know if she. 00:03:28
Did that take care of it? 00:03:33
OK, Connie, repeat what you just said. So I'm not sure everybody heard, but. 00:03:38
The. 00:03:42
The public safety. 00:03:47
The public safety lit would be split. 00:03:50
It wouldn't be just the county getting the money. I wouldn't just the state. The city would also get some funding from. 00:03:54
There's a few other municipalities and organizations that can get a slight left. 00:04:03
VMS lit is. 00:04:10
Purely for EMS. 00:04:12
Capital and operations. 00:04:14
But that bucket of money would come to the county. 00:04:18
Only. 00:04:24
Correct. 00:04:25
Well, I think we. 00:04:35
We all at this body realized that there was a contract passed for EMS. 00:04:37
And. 00:04:43
We have to find a way to fund it. 00:04:45
Hence we check with Baker Tilly to. 00:04:48
Come up with this is one option to fund EMS. 00:04:51
I guess I'll just go ahead and say that. 00:04:55
Telling people all the time that. 00:04:57
Local government, specifically national and state government, is their whole reason for being in existence is. 00:05:00
Providing services and community, specifically local government. 00:05:09
So therefore, if we're going to provide EMS services. 00:05:13
Which it's we're not required to do, but it's I guess it's the right thing to do. We have to figure out a way to fund it. And this 00:05:18
is 1 mechanism of funding it through a tax, a lit tax that. 00:05:23
Like Connie said, goes directly to the county, but there's needs to be some negotiations going on with the city and in order to 00:05:30
just disperse that EMS funding. 00:05:35
And I'll add to that. 00:05:47
Dale, I think in the last conversation, at the last meeting we had, you know, the county doesn't want to. 00:05:49
Collect the taxes. 00:05:56
From the people in the county, in the city and hold all that money. 00:05:59
You know, we do want to work with the mayor. 00:06:02
Find out if he wants to go the same route we're going or if he wants to stay private or whatever he's he's wanting to do. And then 00:06:05
Debbie, it's some of that money. 00:06:11
So yeah, I mean, we don't want to. 00:06:25
Collect the money from all constituents in the county. 00:06:28
And the city and then keep their portion of of that money. 00:06:32
So yes, we would need to, absolutely. 00:06:36
Have some negotiation with the mayor and the city on how they want to. 00:06:40
Proceed with their EMS. 00:06:44
Let me just go over some impact numbers too. 00:06:47
Provided by Baker Tilly a lit rate of .2%. 00:06:50
On someone making $50,000 a year. 00:06:56
Is $100 annually, $8.33 a month? 00:06:59
Someone earning $75,000 per year is $150.00 per year or 12:50. 00:07:03
Per month and $100,000 is $200.00 annually or 1667 monthly. 00:07:10
You said the lit rate, are you talking? 00:07:18
Which which? 00:07:21
That's tax any lit at a .2%. 00:07:23
I didn't really specify which one, but. 00:07:30
That's the Max for the EMS. 00:07:33
Lynn 1/2. 00:07:35
What that generated year? 00:07:38
Their projections. 00:07:40
A little over 5 million. 00:07:44
Yeah, they've got it estimated at 5.8 million. 00:07:47
So if we you said we can only do it in increments at 1.01. 00:08:04
On 01 so we can't do. 00:08:10
.1550 point 1.2 Period. 00:08:12
No, you could do point 10.11.12. 00:08:16
I guess we need to determine what we know, what our costs are. 00:08:21
What 1.61.7 a year? 00:08:25
It's 1.41 point four that just under that, just under that and then I don't know how much we expect to. 00:08:29
Share it with the city. So we need to keep those things in mind. I'm necessarily need to know we need to raise $5,000,000 a year 00:08:36
if we're not spending $5 million. 00:08:40
Right. So .05 would cover the amount that we need. Now we don't know what the additional amount is going to be. I did have a 00:08:44
question. I haven't seen anywhere who controls this money once we set this, do we hold the purse, The commissioners hold the purse 00:08:51
because I'm afraid we're going to get in the situation again where we're going to. 00:08:57
Put too much money into this fund, and then it's gonna become a slush fund for somebody. That's exactly what I want to avoid 00:09:05
doing. I want to cover what we need and just keep it to the basics here instead of building up this slush fund. It's. But it's 00:09:11
very clear in statute it can only be used for EMS. Yeah, but it's still you can. It's still pretty vague. I mean, you can start 00:09:17
filling in cost for that other than the EMS service directly. 00:09:22
Who's to stop you from putting some task force director in there or something else that who decides? 00:09:29
That's what we need. That's what I'm concerned about. 00:09:36
I mean, right now we only, we're only talking two years here. 00:09:38
With this contract. 00:09:42
I've got a question about just. 00:09:47
The process tonight? 00:09:50
Is was this more of a public hearing to hear from the public on this or are we expected to take action? Is this just satisfying 00:09:53
the statute to to notify taxing units? I guess I just need to get a clarification of what action this portion of it satisfies the 00:10:01
statute for public hearing. If we choose to take action in our regular meeting, we can. 00:10:08
OK. 00:10:17
But we are going to hear from the public. 00:10:19
Absolutely. 00:10:21
Just trying to see if we're. 00:10:24
When we're through with discussion or. 00:10:26
At a pause and we can bring the public forward. 00:10:29
Are we there? 00:10:35
I think so. I think so. 00:10:36
Mr. Dale Mann. 00:10:46
Is there a time frame on this? Yeah, let's let's try to keep it to about. 00:10:47
3 minutes or so. 00:10:51
I'm sure you can do it. 00:10:53
Damn, man, Georgetown, I guess you know I'm against any tax increases. 00:10:56
But I think our taxpayers pay their fair share now. 00:11:01
And what bothers me about this under the guy that always came forward? 00:11:04
It said. You know, we're so tight for $39. 00:11:08
We could have the best EMS service available. I can't remember that gentleman's name, but he said it several times at several 00:11:12
meetings. And you're, you guys are already with this is $200.00 a year, $100 a year. That's nothing to some people, but it it's a 00:11:17
lot to a lot of people. 00:11:23
And I could put on my Facebook page, I can't ask my Social Security, give me a raise to pay this. If you're working, maybe you can 00:11:30
do that. I'm retired. I can't do that. 00:11:35
And you got it. You got the CCD tax that's raising. I see where the. 00:11:41
Judicial system, it went up to seven. It's going up to 7 from 4:00. 00:11:46
It just keeps going. 00:11:51
And when's it going to stop? When's it going to stop? Till you run me out of town? Till you run everybody else out of town? When's 00:11:53
it going to stop? 00:11:56
And I'm also on the impact committee, impact fee committee, we have come up with that yet, but I. 00:12:01
Way the state is, it won't generate that much funds to get us out of anything. 00:12:07
And that's not going to be our answer, but I hope it's a lot of answer. But we should have impact fee 1015 years ago, we wouldn't 00:12:12
be in the mess we're in right now. 00:12:17
Thank you. I'm against any tax increase y'all put on us. Thank you. 00:12:22
Thank you, Dale. 00:12:26
Mark. 00:12:28
Gin or gin? 00:12:30
Mark Gim. 00:12:33
Hey, don't work in Albany Township. Got some mailing address? But that's the Postal Service for you. 00:12:39
I'm not opposed to tax increases are up here. I mean, these are the basic, some of the basic functions of county government. So 00:12:48
no, no opposition at all in that respect. 00:12:54
My question is a taxpayer is especially the EMS side. I would like to see what is your vision? 00:13:00
Efficient as a place you want to be ultimately. So what's your vision and what's your plan to at least start getting there? 00:13:07
Because I've attended some of these meetings on the on the EMS services Firebase might be possible but all I'm seeing is turf wars 00:13:13
and egos so far that's not the way to get there I. 00:13:18
So I would like. 00:13:26
Put out in front of the public. 00:13:28
This. I mean, I think Sheriff Bush has got the law enforcement side of it under control. 00:13:30
On the EMS side, tell us where, where do we plan to go and give us a concrete plan to at least start getting it. So you may not 00:13:36
know how to get there all the way, but have some have some incremental steps laid out. 00:13:42
That's a responsible, that's to me, that's responsible government. 00:13:50
And I'd like. That's what I like to see. 00:13:53
Thank you. 00:13:55
Does anybody else have any further discussion on? 00:14:02
Any or all of these proposed lits? 00:14:07
Motion to adjourn this public hearing. 00:14:14
So moved. 00:14:18
And a second. 00:14:20
On there, aye. 00:14:22
We are adjourned. We have a 6:00 regular meeting in 15 minutes. 00:14:24
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