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I'll survive. 00:00:08
Don is our fill in. 00:00:11
And there's a error in here. Is it hot? That's bad as it usually. 00:00:15
OK. It's 7:00. Welcome, everybody. 00:00:20
This is the December 9th. 00:00:24
One time Planning Commission. 00:00:26
At this time, I'd like to stand and honor the flag and pledge allegiance. 00:00:28
A pledge legends to the flag of the United States of America. 00:00:33
To the Republic, which stands one nation under God, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:38
Alrighty, this time we'd like to do roll call please. 00:00:47
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Here, all righty, we have enough people to. 00:01:12
Give a good vote tonight. Not a full board, but we can do a quorum so. 00:01:15
At this time, we'd like to have. 00:01:20
Approval the minutes of the November meeting. 00:01:23
Somebody review those and make a motion. 00:01:26
Make a motion to approve. We have a motion. 00:01:29
OK. And a second. 00:01:33
And I have a second, oh, you're good. Any discussion all in favor signify by aye, those opposed likewise. Thank you. All right, we 00:01:37
have no old business and new business at this time is agenda item. 00:01:44
Number one, it's FC-11-24-47 Administrative Subdivision and Don, if you will present that to us, I. 00:01:53
Too fast, John. 00:02:05
Good evening, Don Lobb, Director of Operations and Planning. I am substituting for Mr. Creeby tonight. He is on baby watch, so. 00:02:07
Just bear with me here. I got this at 4:00. 00:02:17
New baby. Watch New baby. You must say new baby any minute. Yeah. 00:02:21
So before you have Floyd County docket FC 122447 petitioner is Wanda Vance. The location is Sundown farms 8134 Pekin Rd. 00:02:26
Greenville IN 4724. The request is for an administrator or minor subdivision. A partial replant of Sundown farms zoning district 00:02:35
is agricultural residential. The overview the subdivision known as. 00:02:44
Sundown Farms Plat 1357 was a 5 lot subdivision recorded in 2010. 00:02:54
The applicant is proposing a replay out of lots 1-2 and three. 00:03:00
The replant will split each lot into two lots for an additional three additional lots in the subdivision. Lots 2 and 3, Front peak 00:03:04
and Road and Lot 1, Miller Evans Rd. Lot 3 was also split in 2022 to usual energy for the location of the substation. The Plant 00:03:13
Committee was was held on site on November 22nd in 2024. That report is I believe, in your packet. 00:03:22
Staff comments. 00:03:33
I'll go through these as well. 00:03:35
The plat is as cemented. Does comply with the minimum lot size standards. New lots are above the AR zoning of two acre minimum 00:03:38
with more than 200 feet of road from the plant as submitted. Does comply with the street design standards because no new streets 00:03:44
are provided. The plant has submitted complies with the easement requirements because no changes to the original approved 00:03:50
easements have been made. 00:03:56
Driveway easements are needed unless that requirement is waived by the Commission. 00:04:03
The plan as provided does comply with block standards because there are no blocks required of the proposal. 00:04:08
The plat is as submitted does provide St. improvements as required by the ordinance. Again, there are no new streets provided. The 00:04:15
plat as submitted does comply with water supply standards brought Borden tri-county Regional Water has provided the service letter 00:04:21
for the new lots. 00:04:27
And #7 The plot as submitted is suitable for sewage and wastewater containment. 00:04:34
Soil testing has been completed in the Floyd County Health Department has provided septic system requirements for super systems. 00:04:41
Staff recommendation. 00:04:48
Provide easement on plat for joint drives if determined necessary by the county engineer seems to be the only condition and this 00:04:51
is my understanding the subdivision. So it's an administrative action by the board. All right, thank you. Any questions for Don at 00:04:56
this time, anybody? 00:05:02
Thanks, Don. OK. At this time if the applicant would now come forward? 00:05:10
State your name and and address for the record. Yes, please. For the record. John Craft and law firm of Young Linden or some 00:05:15
Kraft, 126 W Spring Street, New Albany, appearing on behalf of the applicant and in this instance, as Mr. Lop read, this is an 00:05:22
administrative subdivision, a minor subdivision, so to speak. It is a replant of three lots that originally were part of Sundown 00:05:28
Farms. 00:05:35
As the findings that Mister Lop also went through, there are no new streets that are being opened. Each of the lots meets the 00:05:42
minimum requirements in the AR district as it relates to frontage. As it relates to the size, I think you probably have a flat in 00:05:50
front of you as far as what what's actually being presented. 00:05:58
This was there were several times. OK, I'll pass you that. Thank you, John. 00:06:07
These were submitted to Mr. Creeby that ultimately what you're going to find is that separation of those three lots now will allow 00:06:13
for the administrative portion of this to be done. 00:06:21
This is a ministerial act, certainly from the standpoint as it relates to meeting the requirements of the ordinance, as it relates 00:06:30
to size, Rd. frontage, all those necessary items and becomes a ministerial review as indicated on the plat that you see in front 00:06:35
of you. 00:06:41
Mr. McCarty, who is doing the work for my client. 00:06:47
Has placed on there the information as it relates to sight distances specifically. 00:06:53
I did attend the site visit along with the committee and there may be some issues on watch to a lots to be different on Pekin Road 00:06:59
and certainly as indicated on the plat, the references made that site distance will need to be approved by Horatio prior to a 00:07:06
building permit being issued. Certainly we will stipulate that his determination may then require shared driveway which would then 00:07:13
require a shared. 00:07:21
Shared driveway and maintenance agreement between those two lots. 00:07:29
It appears that those two may be the only two that may require it, but again, Horatio has not made that determination yet, and 00:07:32
certainly from that standpoint. 00:07:37
Reason why the notation is made on the flat since it is administrative subdivision and it is a ministerial act and we have met all 00:07:42
the requirements of the subdivision control ordinance. 00:07:47
We are here tonight asking for the approval. I'll take any questions you may have with me. All right, Any questions for Mr. Kraft 00:07:53
on the board? Thank you, John. Thank you. All right. This time we'd like to offer anybody like to speak in a favor of this 00:08:00
project, Please come forward, state your name, address for the record. 00:08:06
That being looked like nobody's out there. Anybody wants to speak in opposition, please come forward. State your name and address 00:08:16
for the record. 00:08:20
Good evening, I'm George Bercow. My address is 8072 Pekin Rd. 00:08:28
My property is just South of the. 00:08:34
The main residents of the band through via location. 00:08:38
I am opposed to the division of property due to the impact on traffic on Pekin Rd. 00:08:42
The drainage. 00:08:48
And water supply issues. 00:08:50
Plus the unknown impact on property values. 00:08:53
If the lots are populated with mobile homes or similar type properties. 00:08:56
However, I feel this. 00:09:01
Meeting is simply procedural and the Find Legal team representing Wanda Vance would not have scheduled this hearing. 00:09:04
Unless they had. 00:09:12
Secured the votes needed to move forward. 00:09:14
My major opposition would. 00:09:17
Be the added strain on the Floyd County Sheriff's Department. 00:09:19
I have no idea when I built my house. 00:09:23
In 2018. 00:09:26
That months later there would be 7 sheriff's vehicles in my driveway as a staging area. 00:09:28
For a raid on the bands Ruby property. 00:09:36
Even had. 00:09:42
Sheriff's deputies with tactical gear invest in some automatic weapons. 00:09:43
So. 00:09:49
Since then, there have been other altercations with law enforcement. 00:09:52
At that same address, the most recent happened earlier this year when my HVAC unit was shot and destroyed by a member of the. 00:09:56
Property next door. 00:10:08
Speaking with sheriff's deputies that have been on my property. 00:10:11
All of them have told me that they know their issues. 00:10:15
With that location and they have had issues proving that. 00:10:20
So. 00:10:24
My, I guess offer to Floyd County is I would gladly build a driveway in my location so that we could park a sheriff's deputy there 00:10:28
so they can monitor it from the hours of 12 to 4:00 AM in the morning. 00:10:35
When it seems like there's an endless stream of vehicles going out of that Ruby Vance property. 00:10:42
I encourage any future buyers. 00:10:50
Of these building lots to speak candidly with current residents of the area and police officers before purchasing any of these 00:10:52
lots. 00:10:57
Thank you. Thank you. 00:11:03
Anybody else like to come forward please? 00:11:06
All righty, that's case if the applicant would like to come back and have any follow up questions. 00:11:11
It's administrative, it's administrative lab. As a result of that we've met all requirements. OK, all right. At that time, no 00:11:17
other questions and we looking for a ballot. 00:11:23
I have a ballot. 00:11:29
Docket FC11-24-47. Applicant Wandavance. 00:11:33
After careful review, the plat committee finds that #1 the plat has submitted does comply with lot size and standards because the 00:11:39
new lights are all above 2 acres minimum with more than 200 foot of Rd. frontage. 00:11:46
#2 the plat as submitted does comply with the street design standards because no new streets are created at by this action. 00:11:52
#3 the Plat S submitted does comply with the easement standards because no changes. 00:12:00
Have been made to the original approved easements. Driveway easements are needed. 00:12:06
Driveway easements. 00:12:12
Driveway easements. 00:12:14
May be required. 00:12:16
Let me reword that. 00:12:20
#4 the plat. 00:12:30
As submitted. 00:12:32
Does comply with the block standards because there are no blocks required or proposed. 00:12:34
#5 The plat has submitted. 00:12:40
Does provide does not provide St. improvements as required by the ordinance because there are no new streets provided. 00:12:43
Number six, the plat estimated does comply with the water supply. 00:12:52
Standards because board and Triwater County. 00:12:56
Tri-county Water has provided a letter of service for the new lots #7 the Platte estimated this is suitable for sewage and 00:12:59
wastewater containment because soil testing has been completed and the Floyd County Health Department has provided septic system 00:13:04
requirements for suitable system. 00:13:09
The plan is accepted upon completion of the following condition. Provide an easement on the plat for joint driveways if determined 00:13:15
necessary by the County Engineer. 00:13:19
DECISION Deployed. County Planning Commission hereby grants primary primary approval of this administrative subdivision at the 00:13:25
meeting held on the 9th day of December, 2024. 00:13:30
That completes my ballot. 00:13:35
I got a question on #5 Yes, Sir. Did you say does or does not? Does not. 00:13:38
The plan does not provide St. improvements. 00:13:44
Because there's no additions of any streets, correct? Because there's no St. improvement. 00:13:48
There's no new streets, but it complies with the ordinance in that regard. Yeah, so I could. 00:13:56
I think it should be it does because it complies with the ordinance even though there are no new streets because I wasn't sure it 00:14:03
should be a does. 00:14:08
OK, so you do you want to mend that I can amend it to those best prevents Read number 51 more time. The plat as submitted does 00:14:12
provide St. improvements as required by the ordinance because there are no new streets provided. 00:14:19
That's weird wording, but I understand. 00:14:28
You done? I'm doing all right. We have a ballot. 00:14:35
We have a ballot any we have a 2nd, 2nd. 00:14:38
Do we have any discussion? 00:14:43
All in favor signify by aye aye, those opposed likewise. 00:14:45
It passes. Thank you guys. 00:14:50
All right, all right, next time. 00:14:52
On the agenda, Donald, if you'll help us through this one, Sorry, this is agenda item number 2. 00:14:55
GB-1124-07 Zoning ordinance amendment. 00:15:03
This is a zoning ordinance meant for the regarding the Town of Greenville. 00:15:10
The Floyd County for our Planning Commission serves as the Town of Greenville's Planning Commission, and the process for amending 00:15:16
zoning ordinances starts at the Planning Commission level and then proceeds to the municipal body. 00:15:24
So tonight you have in front of you a proposed zoning ordinance amendment that were provided by the. 00:15:33
By the town council. So tonight will be a public hearing and at the end of that public hearing you have three options regarding 00:15:41
the proposed zoning ordinance amendments. You can approve those. 00:15:48
You can with a favorable recommendation. You can disapprove those with an unfavorable recommendation, or you can forward those to 00:15:56
the town council with no recommendation. So favorable unfavorable are no recommendations. Are the three options available to you? 00:16:04
The amendments are to change in my understanding. Delete. 00:16:12
The following items Appendix A in the town of Greenville's land matrix, remove primary agricultural our agriculture from the 00:16:21
matrix and remove confined feed operations from the matrix. 00:16:28
In section 1001, Miscellaneous development Standards, subsection A, remove confined feed operations from the table, and subsection 00:16:36
G, delete and replace agricultural prime, primary and confined feed operations. 00:16:44
Our prohibited uses. 00:16:53
In all districts, so there are 5. 00:16:55
5 standards that you should pay reasonable attention to under the Indiana. 00:17:01
Zoning or our zoning codes are in statutes and 600 series the you should pay reasonable attention to the comprehensive plan 00:17:07
condition, current conditions and character, current structures and uses the most desirable use for which land in each district is 00:17:15
adapted, the conservation of property values throughout the jurisdiction and responsible growth and development. 00:17:23
From Nick's notes, in terms of rationale, the modifications are consistent with the. 00:17:34
And intent of the comprehensive plan to consider the nuisance. 00:17:39
Potential of land uses. These uses are not permitted in the Town by another previously adopted ordinance. Update will be 00:17:43
consistent with the Town's desire to prohibit the keeping of any type of livestock within the Town's jurisdiction. The Town seeks 00:17:49
to encourage residential and commercial development which may be deterred by these uses. 00:17:56
So that's Nick's staff. 00:18:03
OK. 00:18:06
John, don't go anywhere. I have a question if you're OK with that's what I'm gonna anybody questions, don't go anywhere. I got 00:18:08
some questions. 00:18:11
You know, I'm gonna ask questions to talk to Mag here. So what we're gonna do about the people that want to keep chickens in their 00:18:14
backyard because that's not if we're gonna, it's the way that sounds. They're gonna say no. That's my understanding from the town 00:18:20
is that and that's not OK because there are people that do that to save money. Not that. 00:18:26
I can only stay what's on my face on this piece of paper. 00:18:36
Like, I appreciate like larger act, but I do have a problem. We're gonna tell people they can't keep some backyard chickens. 00:18:40
In the city of Louisville, keep them. In Newark you keep them everywhere you can keep these and stuff too and every municipality. 00:18:46
So this is my my understanding and I could be wrong again. I I got this at 4:00 was that the the town has some other ordinances 00:18:52
regarding livestock. 00:18:58
And and prohibition of livestock and they just want to have those as consistent. 00:19:04
You, you as a board are giving a recommendation. So all you're doing is recommending you can give this an unfavorable 00:19:09
recommendation in the town of the council can sit and say we're going to pass it anyway, so. 00:19:15
Or you can. 00:19:23
So. 00:19:26
I like chickens too, I guess. 00:19:28
I don't know, yeah. 00:19:30
I mean we. 00:19:32
This is from our zoning ordinance. And so in our ordinance we have primary AG. We have primary AG in, in almost all of our, if I'm 00:19:34
not mistaken, all of our residential districts that allow certain items. How those are prohibited are through the HOA's and 00:19:42
through the restrictions and covenants and platted subdivisions and unplatted areas. It's it's not unless it's a deed restriction. 00:19:50
So that may be the issues that the town has because I don't believe with the exception of maybe 2. 00:19:58
Subdivisions that they have any planted. 00:20:04
But that's as much as I can speak to to their interests or desire. 00:20:14
All righty, any any other questions? 00:20:23
OK, so at this point we need. 00:20:26
We do need a ballot Ballot. 00:20:29
I'm sorry anybody will speak in favor correct? 00:20:33
It's just you opened up to anybody to speak, OK, Open discussion for the public. Anybody wants to come up and state their name and 00:20:37
address? 00:20:40
Come forward. Yes, Sir George. 00:20:44
State your name and address for the record please. 00:20:48
George Bercow, 8072 Pekin Rd. Greenville I guess it's really more of a question than a statement, but. 00:20:51
It seems like from confined feeding operations, if you look at, I guess there's difference of opinion here or a difference of 00:20:57
identity of combined competing operations because according to Indiana Department of Environmental Management, when you look at 00:21:03
confined feeding operations, you're talking about 300 or more cattle. 00:21:09
You're talking 600 or more swine or sheep. 00:21:16
30,000 or more poultry, ducks, turkeys, 500 or more horses. So if Greenville was talking about, hey, we're talking about confined 00:21:19
feeding operations of this size, then I guess that answers your question about keeping a couple of steers and on your property or 00:21:26
a couple of projects or just pet animals that you want to have around. 00:21:34
But I think there needs to be some more identification of of what considered a confined feeding operation. 00:21:41
Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. 00:21:48
Anybody else have any comments? 00:21:50
All right. Thank you. So once again, favorable and favorable or no recommendation is what we're looking for. 00:21:56
I can't do it. 00:22:09
I'd like to help you benefit, yeah. 00:22:12
I'll say you're unfavorable. 00:22:14
This way it's written. 00:22:16
Well, it seems to me if if if this is really. 00:22:25
Town decision, they're they're essentially just going through us, the tournament maybe maybe our best play is, is just no 00:22:29
recommendation and let them move forward in the way that they feel is necessary for their jurisdiction. And the reason that he's 00:22:35
saying no recommendation, he can speak for himself. Yeah, my thoughts was since it's essentially a town issue, maybe our best move 00:22:41
is no recommendation and let them make the decision they think it's best for green, I mean Greenville, because that's essentially 00:22:47
what they're going to do. 00:22:53
Way so and they currently sit there with the zoning ordinance and then some other ordinances they have that are conflicting, which 00:22:59
This is why they're wanting to clean it up, yeah. 00:23:04
That sounds fun to me. 00:23:09
So is that what you put in the? 00:23:12
That that's me nominating Larry to put that to a ballot. You just have to check, OK. 00:23:15
I will make a ballot. It's an easy one. Thank you. All right, I have a ballot. 00:23:22
Yeah. 00:23:30
So Dr. #GV-11-24-7 under the Floyd County Planning Commission conducted a special public hearing on the above reference docket and 00:23:33
zoning ordinance amendment proposal. Upon keff review, the Floyd County Planning Commission hereby makes no recommendation to the 00:23:40
Town Council concerning the zoning ordinance amendment proposal at the meeting held today. State. 00:23:48
The December 9th of 2024 and that's my balance. OK, we have the ballot any anybody a second I'll second we do have a second any 00:23:57
discussion if not all in favor signify by aye, those opposed likewise. 00:24:04
Perfect, we have. 00:24:13
Our discussion, but next night here. 00:24:17
All right, So we'll probably the open discussion on the wellhead protection overlay. We're just going to table that for. Is that 00:24:20
OK everybody? Do I need to vote on that? Let's vote on it. Yeah, I'll make a motion to take that. I got a motion to to kick it 00:24:26
down the road. I got a second hand discussion. 00:24:32
All in favor signify by aye aye. Those opposed likewise thank you all right now. 00:24:38
Just please don't leave until you sign. 00:24:44
And then you can adjourn as soon as we get a signature. 00:24:48
I can't yet. 00:24:53
He's afraid. Somebody leave. We gotta wait. I think you're waiting for signatures. 00:24:55
I just want to say one item. I think I started here 20 years ago. 00:25:02
And Planning Commission, I just want to thank everyone for your. 00:25:07
Diligence that you do on Planning Commission, it's a hard, thankless job. 00:25:10
And you know. 00:25:15
It is. And I've, you know, for the 20 years that I've. 00:25:17
I not all those. 00:25:22
I'm really thankful for Justin Tack and Nick taking some of these items off. But I did want to mention that to the board before 00:25:24
before I leave and. 00:25:28
You don't get the kudos as much as you do or should. But I just want to say that each and every one of you for taking this and I 00:25:35
will point out especially the elected officials. 00:25:39
Because that's even more things sometimes. So again, I wish you all the best of luck and. 00:25:45
Appreciate your service. Thank you, Don. 00:25:51
And Don, how many years have you been here? 00:25:57
20 years. Well, thank you for 20 years. 00:25:59
We're not. We're not letting it go quite yet. I know. I heard he's on, he's on retainer for the next year at least, right? 00:26:03
Wow, holy. 00:26:12
Panel back. 00:26:19
We're not letting you out the door though. Yeah, you survive. 00:26:21
Is that the last signature? 00:26:26
All right, I need a motion to adjourn. 00:26:29
Motion to adjourn. I need a second second. Motion 2nd, I'll second. 00:26:31
All in favor signify by aye. All right. Merry Christmas, everybody. Thank you for showing up. Yeah. Merry Christmas. 00:26:38
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I'll survive. 00:00:08
Don is our fill in. 00:00:11
And there's a error in here. Is it hot? That's bad as it usually. 00:00:15
OK. It's 7:00. Welcome, everybody. 00:00:20
This is the December 9th. 00:00:24
One time Planning Commission. 00:00:26
At this time, I'd like to stand and honor the flag and pledge allegiance. 00:00:28
A pledge legends to the flag of the United States of America. 00:00:33
To the Republic, which stands one nation under God, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:38
Alrighty, this time we'd like to do roll call please. 00:00:47
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Here, all righty, we have enough people to. 00:01:12
Give a good vote tonight. Not a full board, but we can do a quorum so. 00:01:15
At this time, we'd like to have. 00:01:20
Approval the minutes of the November meeting. 00:01:23
Somebody review those and make a motion. 00:01:26
Make a motion to approve. We have a motion. 00:01:29
OK. And a second. 00:01:33
And I have a second, oh, you're good. Any discussion all in favor signify by aye, those opposed likewise. Thank you. All right, we 00:01:37
have no old business and new business at this time is agenda item. 00:01:44
Number one, it's FC-11-24-47 Administrative Subdivision and Don, if you will present that to us, I. 00:01:53
Too fast, John. 00:02:05
Good evening, Don Lobb, Director of Operations and Planning. I am substituting for Mr. Creeby tonight. He is on baby watch, so. 00:02:07
Just bear with me here. I got this at 4:00. 00:02:17
New baby. Watch New baby. You must say new baby any minute. Yeah. 00:02:21
So before you have Floyd County docket FC 122447 petitioner is Wanda Vance. The location is Sundown farms 8134 Pekin Rd. 00:02:26
Greenville IN 4724. The request is for an administrator or minor subdivision. A partial replant of Sundown farms zoning district 00:02:35
is agricultural residential. The overview the subdivision known as. 00:02:44
Sundown Farms Plat 1357 was a 5 lot subdivision recorded in 2010. 00:02:54
The applicant is proposing a replay out of lots 1-2 and three. 00:03:00
The replant will split each lot into two lots for an additional three additional lots in the subdivision. Lots 2 and 3, Front peak 00:03:04
and Road and Lot 1, Miller Evans Rd. Lot 3 was also split in 2022 to usual energy for the location of the substation. The Plant 00:03:13
Committee was was held on site on November 22nd in 2024. That report is I believe, in your packet. 00:03:22
Staff comments. 00:03:33
I'll go through these as well. 00:03:35
The plat is as cemented. Does comply with the minimum lot size standards. New lots are above the AR zoning of two acre minimum 00:03:38
with more than 200 feet of road from the plant as submitted. Does comply with the street design standards because no new streets 00:03:44
are provided. The plant has submitted complies with the easement requirements because no changes to the original approved 00:03:50
easements have been made. 00:03:56
Driveway easements are needed unless that requirement is waived by the Commission. 00:04:03
The plan as provided does comply with block standards because there are no blocks required of the proposal. 00:04:08
The plat is as submitted does provide St. improvements as required by the ordinance. Again, there are no new streets provided. The 00:04:15
plat as submitted does comply with water supply standards brought Borden tri-county Regional Water has provided the service letter 00:04:21
for the new lots. 00:04:27
And #7 The plot as submitted is suitable for sewage and wastewater containment. 00:04:34
Soil testing has been completed in the Floyd County Health Department has provided septic system requirements for super systems. 00:04:41
Staff recommendation. 00:04:48
Provide easement on plat for joint drives if determined necessary by the county engineer seems to be the only condition and this 00:04:51
is my understanding the subdivision. So it's an administrative action by the board. All right, thank you. Any questions for Don at 00:04:56
this time, anybody? 00:05:02
Thanks, Don. OK. At this time if the applicant would now come forward? 00:05:10
State your name and and address for the record. Yes, please. For the record. John Craft and law firm of Young Linden or some 00:05:15
Kraft, 126 W Spring Street, New Albany, appearing on behalf of the applicant and in this instance, as Mr. Lop read, this is an 00:05:22
administrative subdivision, a minor subdivision, so to speak. It is a replant of three lots that originally were part of Sundown 00:05:28
Farms. 00:05:35
As the findings that Mister Lop also went through, there are no new streets that are being opened. Each of the lots meets the 00:05:42
minimum requirements in the AR district as it relates to frontage. As it relates to the size, I think you probably have a flat in 00:05:50
front of you as far as what what's actually being presented. 00:05:58
This was there were several times. OK, I'll pass you that. Thank you, John. 00:06:07
These were submitted to Mr. Creeby that ultimately what you're going to find is that separation of those three lots now will allow 00:06:13
for the administrative portion of this to be done. 00:06:21
This is a ministerial act, certainly from the standpoint as it relates to meeting the requirements of the ordinance, as it relates 00:06:30
to size, Rd. frontage, all those necessary items and becomes a ministerial review as indicated on the plat that you see in front 00:06:35
of you. 00:06:41
Mr. McCarty, who is doing the work for my client. 00:06:47
Has placed on there the information as it relates to sight distances specifically. 00:06:53
I did attend the site visit along with the committee and there may be some issues on watch to a lots to be different on Pekin Road 00:06:59
and certainly as indicated on the plat, the references made that site distance will need to be approved by Horatio prior to a 00:07:06
building permit being issued. Certainly we will stipulate that his determination may then require shared driveway which would then 00:07:13
require a shared. 00:07:21
Shared driveway and maintenance agreement between those two lots. 00:07:29
It appears that those two may be the only two that may require it, but again, Horatio has not made that determination yet, and 00:07:32
certainly from that standpoint. 00:07:37
Reason why the notation is made on the flat since it is administrative subdivision and it is a ministerial act and we have met all 00:07:42
the requirements of the subdivision control ordinance. 00:07:47
We are here tonight asking for the approval. I'll take any questions you may have with me. All right, Any questions for Mr. Kraft 00:07:53
on the board? Thank you, John. Thank you. All right. This time we'd like to offer anybody like to speak in a favor of this 00:08:00
project, Please come forward, state your name, address for the record. 00:08:06
That being looked like nobody's out there. Anybody wants to speak in opposition, please come forward. State your name and address 00:08:16
for the record. 00:08:20
Good evening, I'm George Bercow. My address is 8072 Pekin Rd. 00:08:28
My property is just South of the. 00:08:34
The main residents of the band through via location. 00:08:38
I am opposed to the division of property due to the impact on traffic on Pekin Rd. 00:08:42
The drainage. 00:08:48
And water supply issues. 00:08:50
Plus the unknown impact on property values. 00:08:53
If the lots are populated with mobile homes or similar type properties. 00:08:56
However, I feel this. 00:09:01
Meeting is simply procedural and the Find Legal team representing Wanda Vance would not have scheduled this hearing. 00:09:04
Unless they had. 00:09:12
Secured the votes needed to move forward. 00:09:14
My major opposition would. 00:09:17
Be the added strain on the Floyd County Sheriff's Department. 00:09:19
I have no idea when I built my house. 00:09:23
In 2018. 00:09:26
That months later there would be 7 sheriff's vehicles in my driveway as a staging area. 00:09:28
For a raid on the bands Ruby property. 00:09:36
Even had. 00:09:42
Sheriff's deputies with tactical gear invest in some automatic weapons. 00:09:43
So. 00:09:49
Since then, there have been other altercations with law enforcement. 00:09:52
At that same address, the most recent happened earlier this year when my HVAC unit was shot and destroyed by a member of the. 00:09:56
Property next door. 00:10:08
Speaking with sheriff's deputies that have been on my property. 00:10:11
All of them have told me that they know their issues. 00:10:15
With that location and they have had issues proving that. 00:10:20
So. 00:10:24
My, I guess offer to Floyd County is I would gladly build a driveway in my location so that we could park a sheriff's deputy there 00:10:28
so they can monitor it from the hours of 12 to 4:00 AM in the morning. 00:10:35
When it seems like there's an endless stream of vehicles going out of that Ruby Vance property. 00:10:42
I encourage any future buyers. 00:10:50
Of these building lots to speak candidly with current residents of the area and police officers before purchasing any of these 00:10:52
lots. 00:10:57
Thank you. Thank you. 00:11:03
Anybody else like to come forward please? 00:11:06
All righty, that's case if the applicant would like to come back and have any follow up questions. 00:11:11
It's administrative, it's administrative lab. As a result of that we've met all requirements. OK, all right. At that time, no 00:11:17
other questions and we looking for a ballot. 00:11:23
I have a ballot. 00:11:29
Docket FC11-24-47. Applicant Wandavance. 00:11:33
After careful review, the plat committee finds that #1 the plat has submitted does comply with lot size and standards because the 00:11:39
new lights are all above 2 acres minimum with more than 200 foot of Rd. frontage. 00:11:46
#2 the plat as submitted does comply with the street design standards because no new streets are created at by this action. 00:11:52
#3 the Plat S submitted does comply with the easement standards because no changes. 00:12:00
Have been made to the original approved easements. Driveway easements are needed. 00:12:06
Driveway easements. 00:12:12
Driveway easements. 00:12:14
May be required. 00:12:16
Let me reword that. 00:12:20
#4 the plat. 00:12:30
As submitted. 00:12:32
Does comply with the block standards because there are no blocks required or proposed. 00:12:34
#5 The plat has submitted. 00:12:40
Does provide does not provide St. improvements as required by the ordinance because there are no new streets provided. 00:12:43
Number six, the plat estimated does comply with the water supply. 00:12:52
Standards because board and Triwater County. 00:12:56
Tri-county Water has provided a letter of service for the new lots #7 the Platte estimated this is suitable for sewage and 00:12:59
wastewater containment because soil testing has been completed and the Floyd County Health Department has provided septic system 00:13:04
requirements for suitable system. 00:13:09
The plan is accepted upon completion of the following condition. Provide an easement on the plat for joint driveways if determined 00:13:15
necessary by the County Engineer. 00:13:19
DECISION Deployed. County Planning Commission hereby grants primary primary approval of this administrative subdivision at the 00:13:25
meeting held on the 9th day of December, 2024. 00:13:30
That completes my ballot. 00:13:35
I got a question on #5 Yes, Sir. Did you say does or does not? Does not. 00:13:38
The plan does not provide St. improvements. 00:13:44
Because there's no additions of any streets, correct? Because there's no St. improvement. 00:13:48
There's no new streets, but it complies with the ordinance in that regard. Yeah, so I could. 00:13:56
I think it should be it does because it complies with the ordinance even though there are no new streets because I wasn't sure it 00:14:03
should be a does. 00:14:08
OK, so you do you want to mend that I can amend it to those best prevents Read number 51 more time. The plat as submitted does 00:14:12
provide St. improvements as required by the ordinance because there are no new streets provided. 00:14:19
That's weird wording, but I understand. 00:14:28
You done? I'm doing all right. We have a ballot. 00:14:35
We have a ballot any we have a 2nd, 2nd. 00:14:38
Do we have any discussion? 00:14:43
All in favor signify by aye aye, those opposed likewise. 00:14:45
It passes. Thank you guys. 00:14:50
All right, all right, next time. 00:14:52
On the agenda, Donald, if you'll help us through this one, Sorry, this is agenda item number 2. 00:14:55
GB-1124-07 Zoning ordinance amendment. 00:15:03
This is a zoning ordinance meant for the regarding the Town of Greenville. 00:15:10
The Floyd County for our Planning Commission serves as the Town of Greenville's Planning Commission, and the process for amending 00:15:16
zoning ordinances starts at the Planning Commission level and then proceeds to the municipal body. 00:15:24
So tonight you have in front of you a proposed zoning ordinance amendment that were provided by the. 00:15:33
By the town council. So tonight will be a public hearing and at the end of that public hearing you have three options regarding 00:15:41
the proposed zoning ordinance amendments. You can approve those. 00:15:48
You can with a favorable recommendation. You can disapprove those with an unfavorable recommendation, or you can forward those to 00:15:56
the town council with no recommendation. So favorable unfavorable are no recommendations. Are the three options available to you? 00:16:04
The amendments are to change in my understanding. Delete. 00:16:12
The following items Appendix A in the town of Greenville's land matrix, remove primary agricultural our agriculture from the 00:16:21
matrix and remove confined feed operations from the matrix. 00:16:28
In section 1001, Miscellaneous development Standards, subsection A, remove confined feed operations from the table, and subsection 00:16:36
G, delete and replace agricultural prime, primary and confined feed operations. 00:16:44
Our prohibited uses. 00:16:53
In all districts, so there are 5. 00:16:55
5 standards that you should pay reasonable attention to under the Indiana. 00:17:01
Zoning or our zoning codes are in statutes and 600 series the you should pay reasonable attention to the comprehensive plan 00:17:07
condition, current conditions and character, current structures and uses the most desirable use for which land in each district is 00:17:15
adapted, the conservation of property values throughout the jurisdiction and responsible growth and development. 00:17:23
From Nick's notes, in terms of rationale, the modifications are consistent with the. 00:17:34
And intent of the comprehensive plan to consider the nuisance. 00:17:39
Potential of land uses. These uses are not permitted in the Town by another previously adopted ordinance. Update will be 00:17:43
consistent with the Town's desire to prohibit the keeping of any type of livestock within the Town's jurisdiction. The Town seeks 00:17:49
to encourage residential and commercial development which may be deterred by these uses. 00:17:56
So that's Nick's staff. 00:18:03
OK. 00:18:06
John, don't go anywhere. I have a question if you're OK with that's what I'm gonna anybody questions, don't go anywhere. I got 00:18:08
some questions. 00:18:11
You know, I'm gonna ask questions to talk to Mag here. So what we're gonna do about the people that want to keep chickens in their 00:18:14
backyard because that's not if we're gonna, it's the way that sounds. They're gonna say no. That's my understanding from the town 00:18:20
is that and that's not OK because there are people that do that to save money. Not that. 00:18:26
I can only stay what's on my face on this piece of paper. 00:18:36
Like, I appreciate like larger act, but I do have a problem. We're gonna tell people they can't keep some backyard chickens. 00:18:40
In the city of Louisville, keep them. In Newark you keep them everywhere you can keep these and stuff too and every municipality. 00:18:46
So this is my my understanding and I could be wrong again. I I got this at 4:00 was that the the town has some other ordinances 00:18:52
regarding livestock. 00:18:58
And and prohibition of livestock and they just want to have those as consistent. 00:19:04
You, you as a board are giving a recommendation. So all you're doing is recommending you can give this an unfavorable 00:19:09
recommendation in the town of the council can sit and say we're going to pass it anyway, so. 00:19:15
Or you can. 00:19:23
So. 00:19:26
I like chickens too, I guess. 00:19:28
I don't know, yeah. 00:19:30
I mean we. 00:19:32
This is from our zoning ordinance. And so in our ordinance we have primary AG. We have primary AG in, in almost all of our, if I'm 00:19:34
not mistaken, all of our residential districts that allow certain items. How those are prohibited are through the HOA's and 00:19:42
through the restrictions and covenants and platted subdivisions and unplatted areas. It's it's not unless it's a deed restriction. 00:19:50
So that may be the issues that the town has because I don't believe with the exception of maybe 2. 00:19:58
Subdivisions that they have any planted. 00:20:04
But that's as much as I can speak to to their interests or desire. 00:20:14
All righty, any any other questions? 00:20:23
OK, so at this point we need. 00:20:26
We do need a ballot Ballot. 00:20:29
I'm sorry anybody will speak in favor correct? 00:20:33
It's just you opened up to anybody to speak, OK, Open discussion for the public. Anybody wants to come up and state their name and 00:20:37
address? 00:20:40
Come forward. Yes, Sir George. 00:20:44
State your name and address for the record please. 00:20:48
George Bercow, 8072 Pekin Rd. Greenville I guess it's really more of a question than a statement, but. 00:20:51
It seems like from confined feeding operations, if you look at, I guess there's difference of opinion here or a difference of 00:20:57
identity of combined competing operations because according to Indiana Department of Environmental Management, when you look at 00:21:03
confined feeding operations, you're talking about 300 or more cattle. 00:21:09
You're talking 600 or more swine or sheep. 00:21:16
30,000 or more poultry, ducks, turkeys, 500 or more horses. So if Greenville was talking about, hey, we're talking about confined 00:21:19
feeding operations of this size, then I guess that answers your question about keeping a couple of steers and on your property or 00:21:26
a couple of projects or just pet animals that you want to have around. 00:21:34
But I think there needs to be some more identification of of what considered a confined feeding operation. 00:21:41
Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. 00:21:48
Anybody else have any comments? 00:21:50
All right. Thank you. So once again, favorable and favorable or no recommendation is what we're looking for. 00:21:56
I can't do it. 00:22:09
I'd like to help you benefit, yeah. 00:22:12
I'll say you're unfavorable. 00:22:14
This way it's written. 00:22:16
Well, it seems to me if if if this is really. 00:22:25
Town decision, they're they're essentially just going through us, the tournament maybe maybe our best play is, is just no 00:22:29
recommendation and let them move forward in the way that they feel is necessary for their jurisdiction. And the reason that he's 00:22:35
saying no recommendation, he can speak for himself. Yeah, my thoughts was since it's essentially a town issue, maybe our best move 00:22:41
is no recommendation and let them make the decision they think it's best for green, I mean Greenville, because that's essentially 00:22:47
what they're going to do. 00:22:53
Way so and they currently sit there with the zoning ordinance and then some other ordinances they have that are conflicting, which 00:22:59
This is why they're wanting to clean it up, yeah. 00:23:04
That sounds fun to me. 00:23:09
So is that what you put in the? 00:23:12
That that's me nominating Larry to put that to a ballot. You just have to check, OK. 00:23:15
I will make a ballot. It's an easy one. Thank you. All right, I have a ballot. 00:23:22
Yeah. 00:23:30
So Dr. #GV-11-24-7 under the Floyd County Planning Commission conducted a special public hearing on the above reference docket and 00:23:33
zoning ordinance amendment proposal. Upon keff review, the Floyd County Planning Commission hereby makes no recommendation to the 00:23:40
Town Council concerning the zoning ordinance amendment proposal at the meeting held today. State. 00:23:48
The December 9th of 2024 and that's my balance. OK, we have the ballot any anybody a second I'll second we do have a second any 00:23:57
discussion if not all in favor signify by aye, those opposed likewise. 00:24:04
Perfect, we have. 00:24:13
Our discussion, but next night here. 00:24:17
All right, So we'll probably the open discussion on the wellhead protection overlay. We're just going to table that for. Is that 00:24:20
OK everybody? Do I need to vote on that? Let's vote on it. Yeah, I'll make a motion to take that. I got a motion to to kick it 00:24:26
down the road. I got a second hand discussion. 00:24:32
All in favor signify by aye aye. Those opposed likewise thank you all right now. 00:24:38
Just please don't leave until you sign. 00:24:44
And then you can adjourn as soon as we get a signature. 00:24:48
I can't yet. 00:24:53
He's afraid. Somebody leave. We gotta wait. I think you're waiting for signatures. 00:24:55
I just want to say one item. I think I started here 20 years ago. 00:25:02
And Planning Commission, I just want to thank everyone for your. 00:25:07
Diligence that you do on Planning Commission, it's a hard, thankless job. 00:25:10
And you know. 00:25:15
It is. And I've, you know, for the 20 years that I've. 00:25:17
I not all those. 00:25:22
I'm really thankful for Justin Tack and Nick taking some of these items off. But I did want to mention that to the board before 00:25:24
before I leave and. 00:25:28
You don't get the kudos as much as you do or should. But I just want to say that each and every one of you for taking this and I 00:25:35
will point out especially the elected officials. 00:25:39
Because that's even more things sometimes. So again, I wish you all the best of luck and. 00:25:45
Appreciate your service. Thank you, Don. 00:25:51
And Don, how many years have you been here? 00:25:57
20 years. Well, thank you for 20 years. 00:25:59
We're not. We're not letting it go quite yet. I know. I heard he's on, he's on retainer for the next year at least, right? 00:26:03
Wow, holy. 00:26:12
Panel back. 00:26:19
We're not letting you out the door though. Yeah, you survive. 00:26:21
Is that the last signature? 00:26:26
All right, I need a motion to adjourn. 00:26:29
Motion to adjourn. I need a second second. Motion 2nd, I'll second. 00:26:31
All in favor signify by aye. All right. Merry Christmas, everybody. Thank you for showing up. Yeah. Merry Christmas. 00:26:38