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I don't think you just give the money away. 00:00:01
I'm gonna give some to John here. People keep going to get some money and then keep forgetting to tell him, right? 00:00:06
Sure. Well, we've had fun. 00:00:22
Yeah, OK. I'm not when I'm not there today. 00:00:25
So we're rehabilitating. 00:00:33
Do you know they have their own on site sewage system out there? They have their own, yes. Yeah, Yeah, I've seen it. Little. Yeah. 00:00:36
It's gross. 00:00:44
Anyway. 00:00:46
To extend the life of it. 00:00:47
Get rehabilitated. They're fixing the metal and. 00:00:50
And I'm staying anyway. 00:00:54
Contractor. 00:00:56
And he's fixed it. It's it's all fixed. 00:00:59
Weak, weak, weak. My office prepared the plans. 00:01:02
Yeah. What's he do? He's got, oh, he's got a dog out there. Who is it? I don't know. Bread. 00:01:05
Oh. 00:01:16
Once you put the suit on it then. 00:01:17
Anyway, lost her short. 00:01:24
On our plans, it clearly says. 00:01:25
Use extreme caution when we do the tank. 00:01:29
We have no knowledge of the. 00:01:32
Turnbuckles and hold it down. The tank might float. 00:01:34
All right. Awesome. Thank you because. 00:01:39
Tanks will float. I mean, it's like a boat. 00:01:40
Got all that rain when they had it on the ground about 3 feet. 00:01:45
But good news. 00:01:56
At least that's what I thought. She thought maybe I'll just. 00:01:57
Yeah, you couldn't see it. So did you work at all with Matt? 00:02:01
Sky when that happened. 00:02:05
I thought it's all branch truck. 00:02:08
Yeah, he's pretty new. He just started in July. OK, So he had nothing to do with that. It was the contractor that was working on 00:02:12
it. They got it all fixed. It's just, it's like. 00:02:18
Oh my gosh, and all this happened as schools open how many we need? 00:02:24
We're good, yeah. 00:02:29
Great. 00:02:32
All right, we'll call the meeting. 00:02:35
Green Area Green. 00:02:40
OK. We'll call the meeting of the Redevelopment Commission to order. 00:02:42
Grow healthy. 00:02:48
Here. 00:02:52
Here. 00:02:53
John here. 00:02:56
Here, here. All right. Let the record show we do have a quorum. 00:02:59
And the first time a business. 00:03:06
Approval of the minutes and claims and you got minutes from our. 00:03:08
There's actually minutes for an executive session as well. 00:03:15
Of July on July 30th. 00:03:19
And the regular meeting minutes of July 30th. So I'd entertain a motion to approve both. 00:03:21
So moved. 00:03:28
Motion by Rich is there a second? 00:03:31
Second by John discussion. 00:03:33
Aye, aye. 00:03:38
She carries, OK. 00:03:40
And then we have one claim. 00:03:42
From young lineage craft for our legal services. 00:03:47
The amount of $2787.50. 00:03:51
Maintain a motion to approve that. 00:03:54
I'll make the motion, but I just wanted to. 00:04:00
Just this has to. Usually it's not. 00:04:03
This large amount. 00:04:06
I can't, I said. Usually it's minimum. I don't know, I haven't looked at this. 00:04:08
Where we are behind, like usually a little behind. I don't think you've invoiced, that's what I mean. 00:04:13
Yeah. And I'm not sure that the month before that was like, I think the last one was approved was a minimum. I, I go back and look 00:04:20
at them, but. 00:04:24
I know if there was just something special that you were working on. 00:04:29
I mean, there were things, but. 00:04:34
You were helping us get the. 00:04:36
Agreement. 00:04:39
I was going to say there's a fair amount that. 00:04:41
Probably should have been on different months. Yeah, OK for the previous. 00:04:44
I make a motion to approve. 00:04:49
2nd. 00:04:52
Rich, the other discussion. 00:04:54
All those favor say aye aye. 00:04:57
Reports. 00:05:05
For your information, I will tell you I'll make my move. 00:05:08
Just to give you an update, we got another mover, so we are at. 00:05:13
13 I will get an updated thing out to you, hopefully this week or next. 00:05:18
On where we stand, we're getting fairly close to getting our banana for our second tranche of. 00:05:26
I think I addressed the questions that were had regarding if we haven't, we have more people accept it than what our requirements 00:05:35
are and that is this is 20 and. 00:05:40
We had no obligations after that, according to it. 00:05:45
To them. So those are the only items I have. I will send you. I got something yesterday. 00:05:48
Regarding our TIF neutralization through the auditor and. 00:05:55
And pro, it does look like we're going to start seeing more sizable. 00:06:00
TIFF increments, especially with. 00:06:06
Nob Hill Apartments and The Grove Apartments coming online. We'll we'll drop some of that. So that's the reports if you have any 00:06:10
questions. 00:06:14
Any questions on that? 00:06:21
I think it's good that to make my move is I mean, it seems like it's picked up some steam. They've had two or three and I just saw 00:06:23
an e-mail this morning haven't had a chance to look at it. So we. 00:06:29
I know you all get those or whoever is on that committee gets the multiple candidates coming through so and I have asked for a. 00:06:35
Drop off rate for them now are for them. So I mean what what actually the members who go there and accept. 00:06:46
Actually make it through because we do have, I don't have that number per segment, but. 00:06:53
They have have asteroids. 00:06:58
OK. All right. New business. First item we have is a Nova Park Building 5 update which is a Tower Pinkster contract amendment and 00:07:01
hopefully you had a chance to look at that this and I'll have done explain it, but the short version is this. 00:07:09
Will be for the build out of the shale space that's leftover in the building. You know the building's 35,000 square feet. 00:07:18
Red wire is using 30 of it and then that 5000 is our. 00:07:26
Space to use. Well and I, I talked with Justin this morning and we probably need to look at table and that's for the time being 00:07:29
because this may be a contract commissioner since the market ready. So I apologize for getting. So I think the actual 00:07:36
construction, the AIA contract I think is the commissioners and that's what it looks like on the thing. Yeah, yeah. And I'm not 00:07:42
certain, but Don's going to figure that out. 00:07:48
And so I'll say, and he pointed out the biggest thing is that. 00:07:55
Somewhere there's my signature. They've asked for Isaac. Yeah, I was going to say it needs to change there. That's OK. That 00:08:00
somebody here. 00:08:03
They did make it out to the Board of Commissioners. They did, but at the top it says commissioners and the Redevelopment 00:08:08
Commission, but I don't recall us signing the AIA contract. If we did, I don't think we did. Either way, they need to correct it 00:08:15
to make sure that it's to the right entity. I don't remember reviewing an AIA contract, I'll put it that way, if we did that. 00:08:22
We can table it and then bring it back to the next motion to table. The Is the tower Pinkster? Tower Pinkster a contract? 00:08:29
Second motion made that read 2nd about John. Any further discussion? 00:08:38
The only thing I'll say is. 00:08:45
I mean, I didn't. 00:08:47
It's good that I us there's in there's discussions that have a build out of the lab that's that's promising. So and we're actually 00:08:49
trying to schedule them like a meeting with. 00:08:54
Kickoff meetings scheduled so right. 00:08:59
That's that's ongoing as well. 00:09:02
All right, motion and 2nd is all those trap say aye. 00:09:04
And just for the in case it does come back, it's a one page, it's fairly simple. It's $44,000, yeah. 00:09:09
You guys can if, if it does, if we do need to come back and they want us to approve it somehow after Dawn looks into it. 00:09:15
Is this is this time sensitive? 00:09:22
I, I don't believe so. I mean, if, if it does come back, I'll, I'll probably will request a special meeting. Yeah, we'll do a 00:09:25
special meeting for I guess is there a way that we can do either one or two things is go ahead. 00:09:32
And approve it, pending that commissioners would not be involved. 00:09:40
You could recommend that the commissioner sign it or is it done? Investigates to figure out if if we're the appropriate party, but 00:09:45
I'd like to see it changed if we are. 00:09:49
And we want to just make sure that the right party sign it. I mean, I. 00:09:55
I think tabling it's the right thing. 00:09:59
OK. I just thought maybe we could go ahead and then if any changes allow Bob to sign outside the, you can do that. 00:10:01
Legal review and Don's approval so we entertain them a new motion to. 00:10:15
If needed, allow me to sign the contract amendment outside the meeting, contingent upon. 00:10:23
Justin's review and approval of the contract terms. 00:10:29
So so moved. 00:10:33
32nd. 00:10:36
This is This is the tower Pinkster for. 00:10:38
Taking this table, we just tabled it. 00:10:41
Can we make that motion? 00:10:44
You can, yeah. It's a new motion. Do we need, I guess. 00:10:46
Do we need to undo the first one? I think that you can explicitly state it in this motion. Your motion is to. 00:10:50
Resend the original put to rescind the original tabling, to reconsider it, and to give Bob approval, subject to legal review, and 00:10:57
Don to sign the agreement. The amendment. 00:11:03
Tracy, did you get that? 00:11:11
That's. 00:11:17
That's a motion. 00:11:18
And I'll second that I'm thinking about it motion second. 00:11:21
I think John should repeat it in full. 00:11:30
Word for word, it was so much easier when she was. 00:11:34
Any further discussion? No, I'll just in favor say aye. All right. Good deal. 00:11:44
John, I think there's a couple things here and I've got one more to you after you're done. 00:11:51
We had a. 00:11:56
Workshop with a group called Innovate Indiana. 00:11:58
They do the high school pitch contests and. 00:12:02
Also work with high school entrepreneurs. 00:12:06
They had a meeting, kind of a regional meeting, and John participated in it last they. 00:12:09
They're statewide, they're not too much in the South. 00:12:17
Just yet, they do a kind of fellowship program looking for teachers to be involved in entrepreneurism as a mentor or as a. 00:12:20
Lack of a better term I guess. Maybe like a coach for entrepreneurs. 00:12:30
Last year, a group from Floyd Central went to the state finals without, basically. 00:12:34
School sponsored. 00:12:42
And was represented kind of went through their project. 00:12:44
They're looking for. 00:12:49
For funding. 00:12:51
I think I believe I sent some information out to you all. 00:12:53
It's it's $10,000 for the whole fellowship. You can also sponsor portion of it. I thought it would be something that the 00:12:56
Redevelopment Commission may want to consider since. 00:13:02
Historically, there's always been concerns with Tiff and I. 00:13:08
Being that taken away from school. 00:13:13
That this would be an opportunity to bring some money back. We definitely don't have the. 00:13:17
At this point the. 00:13:23
The wealth that other communities have in terms of tips, but I didn't want to bring that out as possibility of something that we 00:13:26
could sponsor. 00:13:30
And use TIF funds for. 00:13:36
That would be beneficial for the school. 00:13:38
Well, I think it's beneficial for the region to just it. 00:13:41
Entrepreneurship and it helps encourage. 00:13:46
Yeah, I think it's a great program. Yeah, Yeah. 00:13:49
I read about those. I think it was, I mean secondary for the secondary for the for the school, but also win, win I mean. 00:13:52
Win for the students. Yeah, it's a win for our entrepreneurial ecosystem. It's also one showing that, you know that you are 00:14:00
reinvesting in those funds into things that are so. 00:14:05
Yeah, it was a very good program. 00:14:11
The IEDC, they had a meeting. It was early this year, but Ivy Tech and Perry County High School came. 00:14:15
And they showcase their students and they had. 00:14:22
I don't know six or seven different ones. I think it is, and it's just phenomenal what you know what? 00:14:26
What this program is, you know, I think it's really. 00:14:32
Where the funds go to, they have a foundation called it's the started up foundation so that those funds would go then they would 00:14:34
pay for. 00:14:40
My understanding time. 00:14:46
For the teachers. 00:14:48
But it stays with our school. 00:14:51
It would be school specific. 00:14:55
OK, so it's a sand like Floyd Central. Yeah, if there was a faculty member of Floyd Central that. 00:14:57
Wanted to get involved and there's the funding there. They go through training and then they go through and. 00:15:04
My understanding is there's a stipend. That's a great yeah. Which, What do you think? I wholly support. 00:15:11
Yes, that would be amazing. 00:15:18
I mean, is it something that? 00:15:21
I take it the school wouldn't want to do it right like the. 00:15:23
They've reached out to the principal and principals new. 00:15:27
And to the point that. 00:15:32
I don't know any of the fact. 00:15:36
And people moving on so I. 00:15:41
We're trying. They want to set up a meeting with Floyd Central. 00:15:45
I wanted to bring this to you to say if you would support the fellowship, then we can. Then we can walk into that meeting saying 00:15:49
the fellowship supported by and then we can and then bring back the contracts and things and how that money will be spent. 00:15:55
Thank you, Don. How would we work? 00:16:03
And Brad's asking how, how would we word a motion for that? 00:16:07
How would we? 00:16:10
I'm just asking like. 00:16:12
That we support up to a. 00:16:14
What do you want to do? 00:16:17
I mean, I'm going to supporting the program. 00:16:20
How do you like? I don't know what to call it. 00:16:24
You say we'll support. 00:16:29
$10,000 Fellowship to. 00:16:31
Innovative, innovative. 00:16:35
Indiana umm. 00:16:37
I think you could just to me just a resolution of support and general support and not obligate yourself to something specific. 00:16:40
You're hearing us say we support it. So if you could work out the details, that's probably the yeah, that's why somebody needs 00:16:47
your stuff to move forward. Need a hard commitment, then just give the feedback and direction. And then when you need a hard 00:16:54
commitment or something, I think we would be, I mean, I would be fine with you said it was a 10,000. 00:17:01
Request. Yeah. And to me, there's, there's funding available. Yeah, yeah. I mean, where's it coming out of? 00:17:09
We would get our second TIFF draw in December. 00:17:17
So it came straight from the tip. 00:17:21
So keep its add to the tip. 00:17:23
Yeah. Would that qualify as a tip? 00:17:25
Yeah. So I mean the educational grant under that section, Workforce educational. 00:17:30
Yeah, there. 00:17:37
They've got some specifics to it we can. 00:17:41
We'll take a look at it. You have 10. 00:17:43
Do you have 10 somewhere else if it doesn't? 00:17:46
Yeah. But it'd be much better under TIFF and I think it would. I can look at that section. 00:17:48
It's workforce training, education. I can't imagine that it doesn't, but I'd actually like to read that subsection before I say. 00:17:56
If all else fails, don't we still have a pot of money? 00:18:05
Some funds that are sitting there that work for business loans and other things. 00:18:10
Yeah, we have a couple of pots and so maybe we could. 00:18:16
And if all that fails, I've got two other ski masks. 00:18:19
Yeah, for the record. 00:18:26
Sorry, Minutes. That's an old joke people ask for. That's right. 00:18:30
So, Don, it was a direct request from Innovate Indiana to work with Lloyd Central, though just to they, they had the Floyd Central 00:18:34
group and, and, and it was really unique these they had two to three. They're juniors. I don't think they were sophomores. 1 was a 00:18:40
senior maybe, but. 00:18:46
They took it off. They found out about this program. They put together their entrepreneurial program. They went and made their 00:18:53
pitch without a sponsor because it Floyd did. Yeah. And so they're really excited about trying to get a sponsor and get more 00:18:59
people involved. And they said they had more students that were interested, so. 00:19:06
We're trying to get to innovate Indiana folks and Floyd Central together. And then the dollar amount is is really something they 00:19:14
typically kind of try to get sponsors from. 00:19:20
They did the trainings and things, so my understanding from them, that meeting we were at, they go out to the business community. 00:19:27
But I thought it was a perfect vehicle. 00:19:33
Since we're you know, so Internet came up with the budget. It's about a $10,000. 00:19:36
OK. I think it sounds like they're just general support so I can. 00:19:42
It's OK with the board to go back to Innovate Indiana say. We found the money for the fellowship potentially. 00:19:47
Give me more details on that so I can have that letter through. 00:19:54
And let's see about trying to coordinate a meeting with the principal and those folks and if you could help out with that? 00:19:58
I'm assuming you're going to need a teacher spot. 00:20:06
Teachers got to meet the sponsor or whatever you call it, a lead or whatever. All my old teachers are gone and. 00:20:10
Find a way to do it. I think it'll be easy for you to work with the. 00:20:21
The new admins out there. 00:20:25
What would they would we need to? 00:20:27
Get a contract together with with the with the the innovate Indiana. Give us one for the commitment like what what you know, to 00:20:30
just defines because we've got money obviously going to this, you know, if it all works out, how would we spell that out? 00:20:37
Getting whatever paperwork they use with folks getting that to Justin and circulating it to the board and seeing there's seeing if 00:20:49
all that works through either TIF or other funding to neither be the next step. Yeah. And this should be good for TIFF. I mean, 00:20:55
I'm looking at it, but. 00:21:01
Just get us the what they want and if it's a direct grant or however. 00:21:08
Awesome. 00:21:12
Good use of the money. 00:21:14
All right, you're still up. Yeah, Last thing I have we, we I now can officially say that redevelopment in the county received 00:21:17
$30,000 from the IEC community. 00:21:22
I think it's committee focused on. 00:21:29
Project that they're doing county wide. I think there's a press release in the Tribune this week. We have a set of speaker Series 00:21:32
1 is actually next Monday if you all are interested or at least get that information out to folks. We've got a doctor Haddock from 00:21:40
Purdue and folks from Font Rouge lighting to do our solar lighting coming in and talk about. 00:21:48
Sustainability and EV and produce being something, I think it's extremely innovative. They've actually taken a section of Rd. out 00:21:57
in West Lafayette. 00:22:01
And they are setting, they're doing their testing how to charge electric vehicles on the road. So if you drive on the road, it's. 00:22:05
Be able to charge the battery that way. 00:22:15
He can explain it a lot better than what I probably just did, but we've got that set for 6:00 on Monday at IU SE, who's also one 00:22:21
of our partners in this. 00:22:25
We've got some other programming coming out as well. 00:22:30
In terms of just. 00:22:35
Free Co working. Free Co working week. 00:22:38
Out of Nova Park and the route. 00:22:42
We've got an IUS professors going to have a. 00:22:44
A series of her kind of a workshop on financing entrepreneurs and. 00:22:47
Small businesses. 00:22:53
If we can coordinate launches and everything, I think red wire is set for later in the fall for, you know, 3D printing as well. 00:22:56
And then we've got a couple of others in the works as well, so. 00:23:02
That those programs are ongoing and then I'll just it's not on the agenda, but it's Nova Park related. Give me an update on red 00:23:08
wire building. 00:23:14
Next week they come in front of TRC for their approval. 00:23:20
For the building permit here. 00:23:24
Duke, we're coordinating with them. 00:23:28
And got some good news today. 00:23:31
They're putting the three phase electric to the red wire building. 00:23:34
It looks like they'll be able to use the. 00:23:41
Instead of having to charge for laying out electricity, they're going to. 00:23:44
They feel like they can. 00:23:48
There's enough generated at the building that that may actually be substantially reduced or possibly at no charge. Use more 00:23:51
electric, so use more electricity. 00:23:56
So that's going on. We've got Seminole Realtors trying to set them up with their commercial Realtors. I'm out for. 00:24:02
With one SI for a tour of the facility. 00:24:10
The US new assistant Dean, we're trying to get that her out to the the site as well. 00:24:14
Drive us and we've got 7. Still have those seven. 00:24:21
Vendor our contact contacts that we're working through by ABC on. 00:24:27
So I haven't heard any nose or that we've not made a cut of the list yet, so. 00:24:33
I just won't let you know that that's still. 00:24:40
All those are still ongoing so. 00:24:43
And hope to get the. 00:24:46
More more insightful news than that. So that's all I have. 00:24:48
I have one item for the agenda. Just an update for everyone. So after this meeting I'm gonna run out that the Edwardsville school 00:24:52
property. 00:24:56
And to remind you guys. So during construction they uncovered the old cistern in the old septic system. 00:25:01
Which were massive structures, OK. 00:25:09
All the septic structure, septic tank. 00:25:11
The concrete structure. 00:25:16
Mac is ready to backfill that safe loaded. But before they do that, I just talked to him. I said whoa, hold on because we don't 00:25:18
know where the plumbing comes out of that. 00:25:22
Building. 00:25:26
And I would hate to. 00:25:28
Fill it full of flow will fill the safe loaded and then we have to get back in there to hook pipes up. 00:25:32
So gonna go out and look at them with it. 00:25:37
There's no drawings on that building, but. 00:25:40
Nobody has any. 00:25:42
Kind of working in the blind right now, but. 00:25:45
But we don't want to do something that's going to cost us later. 00:25:47
If we can avoid. 00:25:50
Because my thought is if we we need to only get with the weeds but. 00:25:52
We could have Mac to Plumb. 00:25:56
Take lines, extend them out past the building, put a clean out in cabin. 00:25:59
Stop. That way we can backfill it. It's all safe so. 00:26:04
I'll report back. I just let you know there might be a change order because of that. 00:26:08
We don't know. They didn't. None of us knew what we could get into. 00:26:13
So is this, this is where the outlook for the sewer would go? This is where the tap onto sewer sewer has been installed for the 00:26:16
site. But the building, the school, the old building is not hooked into the sewer. It's still hooked into the old set. OK, That 00:26:24
would be probably where it would hook to. So we got to come out of the wall of the building somewhere. 00:26:31
Put a clean out to clean out in and then we. 00:26:39
So we're working with them on it. We just. 00:26:42
What's the latest on the? 00:26:46
The gymnasium itself, we're waiting on a report to come back from the structural. We had another structural take another look at 00:26:50
it and. 00:26:54
Told done last week he'd have his report to him. But I'm going to reach out to him again. OK, see. And we'll, we'll. 00:26:59
Flip that around, everybody. 00:27:06
Get his report. 00:27:08
And there's is there funding now available? Oh yeah, we haven't had our meeting since the announcement. I apologize. Yeah, please 00:27:10
proceed. We the the school project has been listed as being. 00:27:18
Making that next step to going from the IEMC for funding, yeah, through the, so we both, we, we are now in the queue. 00:27:27
For both the Lilly Foundation. 00:27:35
Funding and the ready 2.0, we don't know what the dollar amount is going to be. 00:27:38
But but. 00:27:43
Outside of actually getting awarded money, we're in the best position we can be in. 00:27:44
We made the list, we made the cut. We we, we requested $2,000,000, which would be the renovation cost that we were given. 00:27:51
And we scored the highest in the region as a project. 00:28:00
That they had scoring for the ready 2.0. There were 74 projects and ours was scored highest of them. They selected 30 of the 74. 00:28:04
But anyway, ours was selected at at at the very high score on the Lily. We came in like third I think it was, but again, and we 00:28:13
don't know for sure if Lily is going to supplement. 00:28:21
Ready or how it's going to work. But anyway, but we frank, we're we're in a very good, very good position. 00:28:30
So yeah. 00:28:35
Very good position. 00:28:37
So, yeah, so we have mine or we're going to have money. Very, very good. How many berries? Excellent, excellent. 00:28:39
Very excellent position. 00:28:45
Better to be in 31st of the 30s. 00:28:48
More better. 00:28:52
More better, more better. 00:28:53
Oh, that's good, but I'll report back to you after. 00:28:57
Right out there now meet with the contractor. 00:29:01
See what we got? Because we. 00:29:04
No one you know, the health department was glad to see that we found it because they didn't have record of it either. This at all 00:29:07
document that for. 00:29:10
That's where it says let his whole corporation have a documentation. They don't. We looked, we tried to find it. It was that was 00:29:13
like a WTA contract or something. 00:29:18
37 Flood. 00:29:24
Yeah, it probably took all these, took all that out too. You never know. There's all, there's a lot of old stuff that's gone. 00:29:25
Or if they even had, they may have never had. Who knows? 00:29:32
It was built to last. Was not going. 00:29:38
Well, Bob, let me ask the question. Has the integrity of the? 00:29:43
Has the integrity of the plumbing. 00:29:47
Being looked at? No, I mean no. I guess what I'm asking is that do we need to redo the problem? 00:29:49
May may not be the right spot, but again, at least you're taking measures if it is. 00:29:58
Simple enough. 00:30:04
Quick and easy modification, just for now. If we don't use it, that's fine, but I'd hate to fill up a flowable field and you're 00:30:06
like, oh now we can't use. 00:30:11
So what is what is flowable? It's a grout, cementuous grout material that you just it's it's. 00:30:17
Basically singer. 00:30:24
You just pour it in the hole and it's. 00:30:25
You can fill all the voids and cracks. It's easier to dig through than concrete. 00:30:27
It's not as strong. 00:30:32
But it fills all the voids, so you can get all the nooks and crannies filled in when you fill it up and you don't have to worry 00:30:33
about anything. 00:30:37
Collapse in the future, because in the future we'll have a parking lot over there, right? 00:30:41
Come on, stay with us the same as a nook. Stay with us. It's just the same. 00:30:47
I understand it's just a redundancy. 00:30:54
I don't understand what. 00:30:58
Creating I don't understand what a cranny is, I entertain a motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn second. 00:31:00
2nd. 00:31:07
There's no. 00:31:10
You know what? I have no idea. 00:31:14
Last time, I think what Bob is saying is nobody likes you, Brad. 00:31:19
All one. 00:31:24
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I don't think you just give the money away. 00:00:01
I'm gonna give some to John here. People keep going to get some money and then keep forgetting to tell him, right? 00:00:06
Sure. Well, we've had fun. 00:00:22
Yeah, OK. I'm not when I'm not there today. 00:00:25
So we're rehabilitating. 00:00:33
Do you know they have their own on site sewage system out there? They have their own, yes. Yeah, Yeah, I've seen it. Little. Yeah. 00:00:36
It's gross. 00:00:44
Anyway. 00:00:46
To extend the life of it. 00:00:47
Get rehabilitated. They're fixing the metal and. 00:00:50
And I'm staying anyway. 00:00:54
Contractor. 00:00:56
And he's fixed it. It's it's all fixed. 00:00:59
Weak, weak, weak. My office prepared the plans. 00:01:02
Yeah. What's he do? He's got, oh, he's got a dog out there. Who is it? I don't know. Bread. 00:01:05
Oh. 00:01:16
Once you put the suit on it then. 00:01:17
Anyway, lost her short. 00:01:24
On our plans, it clearly says. 00:01:25
Use extreme caution when we do the tank. 00:01:29
We have no knowledge of the. 00:01:32
Turnbuckles and hold it down. The tank might float. 00:01:34
All right. Awesome. Thank you because. 00:01:39
Tanks will float. I mean, it's like a boat. 00:01:40
Got all that rain when they had it on the ground about 3 feet. 00:01:45
But good news. 00:01:56
At least that's what I thought. She thought maybe I'll just. 00:01:57
Yeah, you couldn't see it. So did you work at all with Matt? 00:02:01
Sky when that happened. 00:02:05
I thought it's all branch truck. 00:02:08
Yeah, he's pretty new. He just started in July. OK, So he had nothing to do with that. It was the contractor that was working on 00:02:12
it. They got it all fixed. It's just, it's like. 00:02:18
Oh my gosh, and all this happened as schools open how many we need? 00:02:24
We're good, yeah. 00:02:29
Great. 00:02:32
All right, we'll call the meeting. 00:02:35
Green Area Green. 00:02:40
OK. We'll call the meeting of the Redevelopment Commission to order. 00:02:42
Grow healthy. 00:02:48
Here. 00:02:52
Here. 00:02:53
John here. 00:02:56
Here, here. All right. Let the record show we do have a quorum. 00:02:59
And the first time a business. 00:03:06
Approval of the minutes and claims and you got minutes from our. 00:03:08
There's actually minutes for an executive session as well. 00:03:15
Of July on July 30th. 00:03:19
And the regular meeting minutes of July 30th. So I'd entertain a motion to approve both. 00:03:21
So moved. 00:03:28
Motion by Rich is there a second? 00:03:31
Second by John discussion. 00:03:33
Aye, aye. 00:03:38
She carries, OK. 00:03:40
And then we have one claim. 00:03:42
From young lineage craft for our legal services. 00:03:47
The amount of $2787.50. 00:03:51
Maintain a motion to approve that. 00:03:54
I'll make the motion, but I just wanted to. 00:04:00
Just this has to. Usually it's not. 00:04:03
This large amount. 00:04:06
I can't, I said. Usually it's minimum. I don't know, I haven't looked at this. 00:04:08
Where we are behind, like usually a little behind. I don't think you've invoiced, that's what I mean. 00:04:13
Yeah. And I'm not sure that the month before that was like, I think the last one was approved was a minimum. I, I go back and look 00:04:20
at them, but. 00:04:24
I know if there was just something special that you were working on. 00:04:29
I mean, there were things, but. 00:04:34
You were helping us get the. 00:04:36
Agreement. 00:04:39
I was going to say there's a fair amount that. 00:04:41
Probably should have been on different months. Yeah, OK for the previous. 00:04:44
I make a motion to approve. 00:04:49
2nd. 00:04:52
Rich, the other discussion. 00:04:54
All those favor say aye aye. 00:04:57
Reports. 00:05:05
For your information, I will tell you I'll make my move. 00:05:08
Just to give you an update, we got another mover, so we are at. 00:05:13
13 I will get an updated thing out to you, hopefully this week or next. 00:05:18
On where we stand, we're getting fairly close to getting our banana for our second tranche of. 00:05:26
I think I addressed the questions that were had regarding if we haven't, we have more people accept it than what our requirements 00:05:35
are and that is this is 20 and. 00:05:40
We had no obligations after that, according to it. 00:05:45
To them. So those are the only items I have. I will send you. I got something yesterday. 00:05:48
Regarding our TIF neutralization through the auditor and. 00:05:55
And pro, it does look like we're going to start seeing more sizable. 00:06:00
TIFF increments, especially with. 00:06:06
Nob Hill Apartments and The Grove Apartments coming online. We'll we'll drop some of that. So that's the reports if you have any 00:06:10
questions. 00:06:14
Any questions on that? 00:06:21
I think it's good that to make my move is I mean, it seems like it's picked up some steam. They've had two or three and I just saw 00:06:23
an e-mail this morning haven't had a chance to look at it. So we. 00:06:29
I know you all get those or whoever is on that committee gets the multiple candidates coming through so and I have asked for a. 00:06:35
Drop off rate for them now are for them. So I mean what what actually the members who go there and accept. 00:06:46
Actually make it through because we do have, I don't have that number per segment, but. 00:06:53
They have have asteroids. 00:06:58
OK. All right. New business. First item we have is a Nova Park Building 5 update which is a Tower Pinkster contract amendment and 00:07:01
hopefully you had a chance to look at that this and I'll have done explain it, but the short version is this. 00:07:09
Will be for the build out of the shale space that's leftover in the building. You know the building's 35,000 square feet. 00:07:18
Red wire is using 30 of it and then that 5000 is our. 00:07:26
Space to use. Well and I, I talked with Justin this morning and we probably need to look at table and that's for the time being 00:07:29
because this may be a contract commissioner since the market ready. So I apologize for getting. So I think the actual 00:07:36
construction, the AIA contract I think is the commissioners and that's what it looks like on the thing. Yeah, yeah. And I'm not 00:07:42
certain, but Don's going to figure that out. 00:07:48
And so I'll say, and he pointed out the biggest thing is that. 00:07:55
Somewhere there's my signature. They've asked for Isaac. Yeah, I was going to say it needs to change there. That's OK. That 00:08:00
somebody here. 00:08:03
They did make it out to the Board of Commissioners. They did, but at the top it says commissioners and the Redevelopment 00:08:08
Commission, but I don't recall us signing the AIA contract. If we did, I don't think we did. Either way, they need to correct it 00:08:15
to make sure that it's to the right entity. I don't remember reviewing an AIA contract, I'll put it that way, if we did that. 00:08:22
We can table it and then bring it back to the next motion to table. The Is the tower Pinkster? Tower Pinkster a contract? 00:08:29
Second motion made that read 2nd about John. Any further discussion? 00:08:38
The only thing I'll say is. 00:08:45
I mean, I didn't. 00:08:47
It's good that I us there's in there's discussions that have a build out of the lab that's that's promising. So and we're actually 00:08:49
trying to schedule them like a meeting with. 00:08:54
Kickoff meetings scheduled so right. 00:08:59
That's that's ongoing as well. 00:09:02
All right, motion and 2nd is all those trap say aye. 00:09:04
And just for the in case it does come back, it's a one page, it's fairly simple. It's $44,000, yeah. 00:09:09
You guys can if, if it does, if we do need to come back and they want us to approve it somehow after Dawn looks into it. 00:09:15
Is this is this time sensitive? 00:09:22
I, I don't believe so. I mean, if, if it does come back, I'll, I'll probably will request a special meeting. Yeah, we'll do a 00:09:25
special meeting for I guess is there a way that we can do either one or two things is go ahead. 00:09:32
And approve it, pending that commissioners would not be involved. 00:09:40
You could recommend that the commissioner sign it or is it done? Investigates to figure out if if we're the appropriate party, but 00:09:45
I'd like to see it changed if we are. 00:09:49
And we want to just make sure that the right party sign it. I mean, I. 00:09:55
I think tabling it's the right thing. 00:09:59
OK. I just thought maybe we could go ahead and then if any changes allow Bob to sign outside the, you can do that. 00:10:01
Legal review and Don's approval so we entertain them a new motion to. 00:10:15
If needed, allow me to sign the contract amendment outside the meeting, contingent upon. 00:10:23
Justin's review and approval of the contract terms. 00:10:29
So so moved. 00:10:33
32nd. 00:10:36
This is This is the tower Pinkster for. 00:10:38
Taking this table, we just tabled it. 00:10:41
Can we make that motion? 00:10:44
You can, yeah. It's a new motion. Do we need, I guess. 00:10:46
Do we need to undo the first one? I think that you can explicitly state it in this motion. Your motion is to. 00:10:50
Resend the original put to rescind the original tabling, to reconsider it, and to give Bob approval, subject to legal review, and 00:10:57
Don to sign the agreement. The amendment. 00:11:03
Tracy, did you get that? 00:11:11
That's. 00:11:17
That's a motion. 00:11:18
And I'll second that I'm thinking about it motion second. 00:11:21
I think John should repeat it in full. 00:11:30
Word for word, it was so much easier when she was. 00:11:34
Any further discussion? No, I'll just in favor say aye. All right. Good deal. 00:11:44
John, I think there's a couple things here and I've got one more to you after you're done. 00:11:51
We had a. 00:11:56
Workshop with a group called Innovate Indiana. 00:11:58
They do the high school pitch contests and. 00:12:02
Also work with high school entrepreneurs. 00:12:06
They had a meeting, kind of a regional meeting, and John participated in it last they. 00:12:09
They're statewide, they're not too much in the South. 00:12:17
Just yet, they do a kind of fellowship program looking for teachers to be involved in entrepreneurism as a mentor or as a. 00:12:20
Lack of a better term I guess. Maybe like a coach for entrepreneurs. 00:12:30
Last year, a group from Floyd Central went to the state finals without, basically. 00:12:34
School sponsored. 00:12:42
And was represented kind of went through their project. 00:12:44
They're looking for. 00:12:49
For funding. 00:12:51
I think I believe I sent some information out to you all. 00:12:53
It's it's $10,000 for the whole fellowship. You can also sponsor portion of it. I thought it would be something that the 00:12:56
Redevelopment Commission may want to consider since. 00:13:02
Historically, there's always been concerns with Tiff and I. 00:13:08
Being that taken away from school. 00:13:13
That this would be an opportunity to bring some money back. We definitely don't have the. 00:13:17
At this point the. 00:13:23
The wealth that other communities have in terms of tips, but I didn't want to bring that out as possibility of something that we 00:13:26
could sponsor. 00:13:30
And use TIF funds for. 00:13:36
That would be beneficial for the school. 00:13:38
Well, I think it's beneficial for the region to just it. 00:13:41
Entrepreneurship and it helps encourage. 00:13:46
Yeah, I think it's a great program. Yeah, Yeah. 00:13:49
I read about those. I think it was, I mean secondary for the secondary for the for the school, but also win, win I mean. 00:13:52
Win for the students. Yeah, it's a win for our entrepreneurial ecosystem. It's also one showing that, you know that you are 00:14:00
reinvesting in those funds into things that are so. 00:14:05
Yeah, it was a very good program. 00:14:11
The IEDC, they had a meeting. It was early this year, but Ivy Tech and Perry County High School came. 00:14:15
And they showcase their students and they had. 00:14:22
I don't know six or seven different ones. I think it is, and it's just phenomenal what you know what? 00:14:26
What this program is, you know, I think it's really. 00:14:32
Where the funds go to, they have a foundation called it's the started up foundation so that those funds would go then they would 00:14:34
pay for. 00:14:40
My understanding time. 00:14:46
For the teachers. 00:14:48
But it stays with our school. 00:14:51
It would be school specific. 00:14:55
OK, so it's a sand like Floyd Central. Yeah, if there was a faculty member of Floyd Central that. 00:14:57
Wanted to get involved and there's the funding there. They go through training and then they go through and. 00:15:04
My understanding is there's a stipend. That's a great yeah. Which, What do you think? I wholly support. 00:15:11
Yes, that would be amazing. 00:15:18
I mean, is it something that? 00:15:21
I take it the school wouldn't want to do it right like the. 00:15:23
They've reached out to the principal and principals new. 00:15:27
And to the point that. 00:15:32
I don't know any of the fact. 00:15:36
And people moving on so I. 00:15:41
We're trying. They want to set up a meeting with Floyd Central. 00:15:45
I wanted to bring this to you to say if you would support the fellowship, then we can. Then we can walk into that meeting saying 00:15:49
the fellowship supported by and then we can and then bring back the contracts and things and how that money will be spent. 00:15:55
Thank you, Don. How would we work? 00:16:03
And Brad's asking how, how would we word a motion for that? 00:16:07
How would we? 00:16:10
I'm just asking like. 00:16:12
That we support up to a. 00:16:14
What do you want to do? 00:16:17
I mean, I'm going to supporting the program. 00:16:20
How do you like? I don't know what to call it. 00:16:24
You say we'll support. 00:16:29
$10,000 Fellowship to. 00:16:31
Innovative, innovative. 00:16:35
Indiana umm. 00:16:37
I think you could just to me just a resolution of support and general support and not obligate yourself to something specific. 00:16:40
You're hearing us say we support it. So if you could work out the details, that's probably the yeah, that's why somebody needs 00:16:47
your stuff to move forward. Need a hard commitment, then just give the feedback and direction. And then when you need a hard 00:16:54
commitment or something, I think we would be, I mean, I would be fine with you said it was a 10,000. 00:17:01
Request. Yeah. And to me, there's, there's funding available. Yeah, yeah. I mean, where's it coming out of? 00:17:09
We would get our second TIFF draw in December. 00:17:17
So it came straight from the tip. 00:17:21
So keep its add to the tip. 00:17:23
Yeah. Would that qualify as a tip? 00:17:25
Yeah. So I mean the educational grant under that section, Workforce educational. 00:17:30
Yeah, there. 00:17:37
They've got some specifics to it we can. 00:17:41
We'll take a look at it. You have 10. 00:17:43
Do you have 10 somewhere else if it doesn't? 00:17:46
Yeah. But it'd be much better under TIFF and I think it would. I can look at that section. 00:17:48
It's workforce training, education. I can't imagine that it doesn't, but I'd actually like to read that subsection before I say. 00:17:56
If all else fails, don't we still have a pot of money? 00:18:05
Some funds that are sitting there that work for business loans and other things. 00:18:10
Yeah, we have a couple of pots and so maybe we could. 00:18:16
And if all that fails, I've got two other ski masks. 00:18:19
Yeah, for the record. 00:18:26
Sorry, Minutes. That's an old joke people ask for. That's right. 00:18:30
So, Don, it was a direct request from Innovate Indiana to work with Lloyd Central, though just to they, they had the Floyd Central 00:18:34
group and, and, and it was really unique these they had two to three. They're juniors. I don't think they were sophomores. 1 was a 00:18:40
senior maybe, but. 00:18:46
They took it off. They found out about this program. They put together their entrepreneurial program. They went and made their 00:18:53
pitch without a sponsor because it Floyd did. Yeah. And so they're really excited about trying to get a sponsor and get more 00:18:59
people involved. And they said they had more students that were interested, so. 00:19:06
We're trying to get to innovate Indiana folks and Floyd Central together. And then the dollar amount is is really something they 00:19:14
typically kind of try to get sponsors from. 00:19:20
They did the trainings and things, so my understanding from them, that meeting we were at, they go out to the business community. 00:19:27
But I thought it was a perfect vehicle. 00:19:33
Since we're you know, so Internet came up with the budget. It's about a $10,000. 00:19:36
OK. I think it sounds like they're just general support so I can. 00:19:42
It's OK with the board to go back to Innovate Indiana say. We found the money for the fellowship potentially. 00:19:47
Give me more details on that so I can have that letter through. 00:19:54
And let's see about trying to coordinate a meeting with the principal and those folks and if you could help out with that? 00:19:58
I'm assuming you're going to need a teacher spot. 00:20:06
Teachers got to meet the sponsor or whatever you call it, a lead or whatever. All my old teachers are gone and. 00:20:10
Find a way to do it. I think it'll be easy for you to work with the. 00:20:21
The new admins out there. 00:20:25
What would they would we need to? 00:20:27
Get a contract together with with the with the the innovate Indiana. Give us one for the commitment like what what you know, to 00:20:30
just defines because we've got money obviously going to this, you know, if it all works out, how would we spell that out? 00:20:37
Getting whatever paperwork they use with folks getting that to Justin and circulating it to the board and seeing there's seeing if 00:20:49
all that works through either TIF or other funding to neither be the next step. Yeah. And this should be good for TIFF. I mean, 00:20:55
I'm looking at it, but. 00:21:01
Just get us the what they want and if it's a direct grant or however. 00:21:08
Awesome. 00:21:12
Good use of the money. 00:21:14
All right, you're still up. Yeah, Last thing I have we, we I now can officially say that redevelopment in the county received 00:21:17
$30,000 from the IEC community. 00:21:22
I think it's committee focused on. 00:21:29
Project that they're doing county wide. I think there's a press release in the Tribune this week. We have a set of speaker Series 00:21:32
1 is actually next Monday if you all are interested or at least get that information out to folks. We've got a doctor Haddock from 00:21:40
Purdue and folks from Font Rouge lighting to do our solar lighting coming in and talk about. 00:21:48
Sustainability and EV and produce being something, I think it's extremely innovative. They've actually taken a section of Rd. out 00:21:57
in West Lafayette. 00:22:01
And they are setting, they're doing their testing how to charge electric vehicles on the road. So if you drive on the road, it's. 00:22:05
Be able to charge the battery that way. 00:22:15
He can explain it a lot better than what I probably just did, but we've got that set for 6:00 on Monday at IU SE, who's also one 00:22:21
of our partners in this. 00:22:25
We've got some other programming coming out as well. 00:22:30
In terms of just. 00:22:35
Free Co working. Free Co working week. 00:22:38
Out of Nova Park and the route. 00:22:42
We've got an IUS professors going to have a. 00:22:44
A series of her kind of a workshop on financing entrepreneurs and. 00:22:47
Small businesses. 00:22:53
If we can coordinate launches and everything, I think red wire is set for later in the fall for, you know, 3D printing as well. 00:22:56
And then we've got a couple of others in the works as well, so. 00:23:02
That those programs are ongoing and then I'll just it's not on the agenda, but it's Nova Park related. Give me an update on red 00:23:08
wire building. 00:23:14
Next week they come in front of TRC for their approval. 00:23:20
For the building permit here. 00:23:24
Duke, we're coordinating with them. 00:23:28
And got some good news today. 00:23:31
They're putting the three phase electric to the red wire building. 00:23:34
It looks like they'll be able to use the. 00:23:41
Instead of having to charge for laying out electricity, they're going to. 00:23:44
They feel like they can. 00:23:48
There's enough generated at the building that that may actually be substantially reduced or possibly at no charge. Use more 00:23:51
electric, so use more electricity. 00:23:56
So that's going on. We've got Seminole Realtors trying to set them up with their commercial Realtors. I'm out for. 00:24:02
With one SI for a tour of the facility. 00:24:10
The US new assistant Dean, we're trying to get that her out to the the site as well. 00:24:14
Drive us and we've got 7. Still have those seven. 00:24:21
Vendor our contact contacts that we're working through by ABC on. 00:24:27
So I haven't heard any nose or that we've not made a cut of the list yet, so. 00:24:33
I just won't let you know that that's still. 00:24:40
All those are still ongoing so. 00:24:43
And hope to get the. 00:24:46
More more insightful news than that. So that's all I have. 00:24:48
I have one item for the agenda. Just an update for everyone. So after this meeting I'm gonna run out that the Edwardsville school 00:24:52
property. 00:24:56
And to remind you guys. So during construction they uncovered the old cistern in the old septic system. 00:25:01
Which were massive structures, OK. 00:25:09
All the septic structure, septic tank. 00:25:11
The concrete structure. 00:25:16
Mac is ready to backfill that safe loaded. But before they do that, I just talked to him. I said whoa, hold on because we don't 00:25:18
know where the plumbing comes out of that. 00:25:22
Building. 00:25:26
And I would hate to. 00:25:28
Fill it full of flow will fill the safe loaded and then we have to get back in there to hook pipes up. 00:25:32
So gonna go out and look at them with it. 00:25:37
There's no drawings on that building, but. 00:25:40
Nobody has any. 00:25:42
Kind of working in the blind right now, but. 00:25:45
But we don't want to do something that's going to cost us later. 00:25:47
If we can avoid. 00:25:50
Because my thought is if we we need to only get with the weeds but. 00:25:52
We could have Mac to Plumb. 00:25:56
Take lines, extend them out past the building, put a clean out in cabin. 00:25:59
Stop. That way we can backfill it. It's all safe so. 00:26:04
I'll report back. I just let you know there might be a change order because of that. 00:26:08
We don't know. They didn't. None of us knew what we could get into. 00:26:13
So is this, this is where the outlook for the sewer would go? This is where the tap onto sewer sewer has been installed for the 00:26:16
site. But the building, the school, the old building is not hooked into the sewer. It's still hooked into the old set. OK, That 00:26:24
would be probably where it would hook to. So we got to come out of the wall of the building somewhere. 00:26:31
Put a clean out to clean out in and then we. 00:26:39
So we're working with them on it. We just. 00:26:42
What's the latest on the? 00:26:46
The gymnasium itself, we're waiting on a report to come back from the structural. We had another structural take another look at 00:26:50
it and. 00:26:54
Told done last week he'd have his report to him. But I'm going to reach out to him again. OK, see. And we'll, we'll. 00:26:59
Flip that around, everybody. 00:27:06
Get his report. 00:27:08
And there's is there funding now available? Oh yeah, we haven't had our meeting since the announcement. I apologize. Yeah, please 00:27:10
proceed. We the the school project has been listed as being. 00:27:18
Making that next step to going from the IEMC for funding, yeah, through the, so we both, we, we are now in the queue. 00:27:27
For both the Lilly Foundation. 00:27:35
Funding and the ready 2.0, we don't know what the dollar amount is going to be. 00:27:38
But but. 00:27:43
Outside of actually getting awarded money, we're in the best position we can be in. 00:27:44
We made the list, we made the cut. We we, we requested $2,000,000, which would be the renovation cost that we were given. 00:27:51
And we scored the highest in the region as a project. 00:28:00
That they had scoring for the ready 2.0. There were 74 projects and ours was scored highest of them. They selected 30 of the 74. 00:28:04
But anyway, ours was selected at at at the very high score on the Lily. We came in like third I think it was, but again, and we 00:28:13
don't know for sure if Lily is going to supplement. 00:28:21
Ready or how it's going to work. But anyway, but we frank, we're we're in a very good, very good position. 00:28:30
So yeah. 00:28:35
Very good position. 00:28:37
So, yeah, so we have mine or we're going to have money. Very, very good. How many berries? Excellent, excellent. 00:28:39
Very excellent position. 00:28:45
Better to be in 31st of the 30s. 00:28:48
More better. 00:28:52
More better, more better. 00:28:53
Oh, that's good, but I'll report back to you after. 00:28:57
Right out there now meet with the contractor. 00:29:01
See what we got? Because we. 00:29:04
No one you know, the health department was glad to see that we found it because they didn't have record of it either. This at all 00:29:07
document that for. 00:29:10
That's where it says let his whole corporation have a documentation. They don't. We looked, we tried to find it. It was that was 00:29:13
like a WTA contract or something. 00:29:18
37 Flood. 00:29:24
Yeah, it probably took all these, took all that out too. You never know. There's all, there's a lot of old stuff that's gone. 00:29:25
Or if they even had, they may have never had. Who knows? 00:29:32
It was built to last. Was not going. 00:29:38
Well, Bob, let me ask the question. Has the integrity of the? 00:29:43
Has the integrity of the plumbing. 00:29:47
Being looked at? No, I mean no. I guess what I'm asking is that do we need to redo the problem? 00:29:49
May may not be the right spot, but again, at least you're taking measures if it is. 00:29:58
Simple enough. 00:30:04
Quick and easy modification, just for now. If we don't use it, that's fine, but I'd hate to fill up a flowable field and you're 00:30:06
like, oh now we can't use. 00:30:11
So what is what is flowable? It's a grout, cementuous grout material that you just it's it's. 00:30:17
Basically singer. 00:30:24
You just pour it in the hole and it's. 00:30:25
You can fill all the voids and cracks. It's easier to dig through than concrete. 00:30:27
It's not as strong. 00:30:32
But it fills all the voids, so you can get all the nooks and crannies filled in when you fill it up and you don't have to worry 00:30:33
about anything. 00:30:37
Collapse in the future, because in the future we'll have a parking lot over there, right? 00:30:41
Come on, stay with us the same as a nook. Stay with us. It's just the same. 00:30:47
I understand it's just a redundancy. 00:30:54
I don't understand what. 00:30:58
Creating I don't understand what a cranny is, I entertain a motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn second. 00:31:00
2nd. 00:31:07
There's no. 00:31:10
You know what? I have no idea. 00:31:14
Last time, I think what Bob is saying is nobody likes you, Brad. 00:31:19
All one. 00:31:24
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