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Hey, you like to welcome everybody? | 00:00:15 | |
The Albany Township Fire Board public meeting, sorry we're a little bit late, ran over in our executive meeting. | 00:00:18 | |
I'd like to call a meeting to order, do roll call. Start down there with you, Mr. Wiseman. | 00:00:25 | |
Jennifer Kern, Eric Furnish, Daryl Mills, Chris Wireless. | 00:00:32 | |
OK, meetings in order. We all stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, please. | 00:00:40 | |
United States of America to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:48 | |
Of course we don't have a printed agenda, so. | 00:01:10 | |
So we'll do. | 00:01:15 | |
War. And he called me in, Gordon. | 00:01:18 | |
OK, then we'll do minutes. We'll prove minutes. | 00:01:22 | |
Trying to get our agenda pulled up here. Sorry we didn't have our printed copies. | 00:01:27 | |
OK, now we're going to. | 00:01:41 | |
Board had a chance to read all the minutes from our last meeting so. | 00:01:45 | |
We don't have printed copies, we don't have a printer, but any any questions or any board members any questions about the. | 00:01:50 | |
Minutes from the last meeting. | 00:01:58 | |
And just to be clear, we have the meeting minutes since. | 00:02:00 | |
Our last regular meeting in the special meeting since then, So we have January 17th, February 15th and March 14th of 24. They were | 00:02:07 | |
all sent by e-mail I. | 00:02:12 | |
So does he, by having changes to those. | 00:02:21 | |
Anybody having changes in minutes? | 00:02:24 | |
OK, entertain a motion to approve the minutes. | 00:02:26 | |
Make a motion to approve minutes. | 00:02:30 | |
Second OK, Motion approved by Chris Wiseman. | 00:02:32 | |
Any discussion? | 00:02:35 | |
By Chris Lawrence and do we have any discussion? | 00:02:37 | |
Will those be posted online for the public to see? | 00:02:42 | |
Do we know that? | 00:02:45 | |
We don't have printed copies. | 00:02:47 | |
We can. | 00:02:49 | |
Not sure what medium we would use for that, but I didn't know if that went through the clerk's office or how that. | 00:02:51 | |
We do have to. We do post these with State Board of Accounts and I assume they'd be available for for for open records. | 00:02:58 | |
All right. All in favor of the Minutes. Say aye. Aye. | 00:03:08 | |
Any opposed? | 00:03:14 | |
Nay, motion carries. They'll be coming around for signature. | 00:03:15 | |
Financial management, I'll let me think, OK. | 00:03:25 | |
All right, we're going to. | 00:03:28 | |
Go over review our financial statements for the last quarter and Eric furnished our financial Secretary will roll over those. | 00:03:29 | |
All right. | 00:03:39 | |
I'll be sitting around for signatures. For review and signatures, we've got a. | 00:03:44 | |
Our W Banco statement for our general checking. | 00:03:50 | |
And we've got a. | 00:03:57 | |
We've got that for the first three months of the year, so that'll be passed around. So that'll be the month of January, February | 00:04:00 | |
and March. | 00:04:04 | |
We also have our new Washington State Bank account. | 00:04:11 | |
Statement as of the end of the first quarter. That's a quarterly statement, so with W Banco. | 00:04:14 | |
At the end of March, we had a total of 782,317 spot 79. | 00:04:22 | |
And with new Washington State Bank in our savings, we got 121,630 spot 91. | 00:04:30 | |
And. | 00:04:38 | |
We also have CDs of around 480,000, but we don't get statements on those. So I'm going to pass these around for review and | 00:04:42 | |
signature and it it'll show all the outstanding or all the. | 00:04:49 | |
Disbursements checks during the First quarter. | 00:04:57 | |
I think the board's already reviewed these. We had them emailed to us earlier. Is there any? | 00:05:03 | |
Everyone entertain a motion for the. | 00:05:18 | |
Financially approved. | 00:05:21 | |
Motion for Rule of Financial Records. | 00:05:23 | |
I have second. | 00:05:26 | |
Second motion by Ben Fee to approve the financial seconded by Chris Swearens. Any discussion on the financials. | 00:05:29 | |
048, So we're passing them around. Do I have any questions? | 00:05:39 | |
Also included in that is that well. | 00:05:45 | |
We'll do another one for. | 00:05:48 | |
We'll do another one for this, OK, We'll do that. | 00:05:52 | |
So this will just be the bank statements where we got a motion. So we'll do that. | 00:05:55 | |
OK. | 00:06:00 | |
All favor of the motion. | 00:06:02 | |
Except the financial statement, say aye. | 00:06:05 | |
Aye, aye. All opposed. | 00:06:08 | |
Site Night. | 00:06:11 | |
Motion carries. | 00:06:13 | |
Also have the. | 00:06:16 | |
The printouts for the general account as I've been to the quarter, the debt service account, and the cumulative fire. | 00:06:18 | |
And I will forward those. | 00:06:28 | |
To be reviewed. | 00:06:33 | |
And it also has an accounts payable voucher showing everything that has. | 00:06:38 | |
Been written during the quarter. | 00:06:43 | |
OK. OK. Thank you. | 00:07:05 | |
Did you get that all out there? | 00:07:10 | |
I'm also going to pass around our annual financial report that was just completed at the end of February and. | 00:07:23 | |
That's been distributed by e-mail and. | 00:07:33 | |
It's our gateway report. | 00:07:38 | |
We have to file in the Indiana Gateway Government Unit system. | 00:07:40 | |
So provide that as well. | 00:07:45 | |
I think we worked till, yeah, let's wait till these come through. | 00:08:08 | |
Resigning. | 00:08:16 | |
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Bye, bye. | 00:08:19 | |
I think we approve. | 00:09:55 | |
I think we, you know we should approve that in the accounts payable in the Ledger. | 00:09:57 | |
Everybody will make a motion for the gateway. | 00:10:06 | |
Catering Report Ledger, Ledger and Motion Counts table. | 00:10:09 | |
That's from State Board of accounts on our audit. | 00:10:15 | |
Motion to accept the. | 00:10:19 | |
Reports from the State Board of Accounts I'll second. | 00:10:21 | |
Motion and second made by Jennifer. Any discussion? | 00:10:24 | |
No discussion. All in favor, say aye. All opposed motion come. | 00:10:31 | |
I am pleased to announce that we. | 00:10:36 | |
We just went through an audit. | 00:10:42 | |
We had a an earlier we had an early investigation audit, kind of a forensic audit tied to the investigation of Jamie, no? | 00:10:45 | |
And that came out clean and then we have a regular, we are regularly audit either on a three-year or a five year basis. This time | 00:10:56 | |
it it, it went five years and that audit started in December. | 00:11:05 | |
And we just wrapped that up in in March and we've got a clean result on that. | 00:11:14 | |
All the board members should have gotten from the audit State Board of Accounts, a report on any you know, anything from that. | 00:11:22 | |
It wasn't a perfect audit. There is no such thing as a perfect audit, but there were no material findings and anything that had | 00:11:33 | |
been flagged from prior audit had been corrected in the meantime. So we're really happy to report that we're through with that | 00:11:40 | |
process. It was a huge undertaking. | 00:11:46 | |
It does give me confidence that the state of Indiana is doing what they need to do to help. | 00:11:54 | |
You know, guide municipalities and ensure that the taxpayer money is being used properly. So anyways, I just wanted that you all | 00:11:59 | |
should have gotten an e-mail on that, but I wanted to everybody get there for Mr. Schuler with SBA. | 00:12:06 | |
OK, so anyways, glad to be done again. Huge undertaking and. | 00:12:13 | |
But necessary situation and and glad we're able to kind of focus on other things now. | 00:12:22 | |
And that's it for financial report. | 00:12:29 | |
All right. Thank you. Eric. Is there any new business to be brought before the board? | 00:12:31 | |
Any old business we need to clear up? | 00:12:40 | |
So we're starting with old business, yeah. | 00:12:43 | |
In your business. | 00:12:49 | |
Everybody needs to go over. I think we don't really have anything. I think we pretty much. | 00:12:51 | |
Covered it. | 00:12:56 | |
If I got any new business to bring up? | 00:13:02 | |
I do. I would like for us to have a revised capital asset policy in place that's a little more comprehensive. | 00:13:06 | |
I had emailed that out to everybody for review and. | 00:13:17 | |
My. | 00:13:24 | |
My suggestion? We require 2 signatures on checks that are $5000 or more. | 00:13:25 | |
So we have 3 instances on this capital asset policy. | 00:13:32 | |
That we can insert an amount and my suggestion is to use 5000 for that. So one, I just wanted to confirm that everybody was good | 00:13:37 | |
with the wording on this if they were fine with it and then secondly if they were fine with 5000 as the amounts used. | 00:13:46 | |
So if we renovate a building or improve a bit an existing building. | 00:13:57 | |
If it exceeds 5000, it would have to be in our capital asset policy. If it's below that, it could be, we could list it in there. | 00:14:02 | |
It's optional and then the same thing if we buy machinery or equipment. | 00:14:11 | |
Or if we have new construction that exceeds 5000, it would have to be listed, but if it's less than that, we could list it. Of | 00:14:17 | |
course the policy that I came up with that it's it's a temp template from others, but obviously any land purchases or building | 00:14:25 | |
purchases regardless of value would be added to the capital asset policy list. | 00:14:32 | |
So want to get people's blessing on the wording? | 00:14:43 | |
Wanted to get a get your blessing on the wording if there's any changes and then also the amount of money. | 00:14:49 | |
That we are stipulating. | 00:15:00 | |
Where, where it would take in that, we'd have to list that in our capital asset policy. | 00:15:03 | |
Do you have additional printed copies of that? | 00:15:07 | |
Eric, did this come on the recommendation of the State Board of Accounts? | 00:15:18 | |
Yes, they wanted, they wanted a revised policy in place. | 00:15:22 | |
Reading, I'll just mention to the general public. | 00:15:47 | |
This also stipulates, you know not only are we going to record capital assets as they're purchased or renovations are made et | 00:15:51 | |
cetera, but an inventory of these assets will be conducted at least every two years. | 00:15:58 | |
And this is focused on assets that are more durable in nature. | 00:16:06 | |
So think land, buildings, improvements, machinery, furniture. | 00:16:10 | |
Construction, That kind of thing. | 00:16:16 | |
If I had a chance to read it any more time. | 00:16:28 | |
About you all down there, y'all we're doing good. | 00:16:33 | |
Doing good. Any if we can take a motion first before we have our discussion. Anybody wants to make a motion? | 00:16:36 | |
Motion to accept the capital assets policy motion like to 2nd that Eric for a second. | 00:16:45 | |
Any discussion? | 00:16:52 | |
I would like to discuss item three. I think the amount on that one should be a little bit lower. | 00:16:54 | |
With some of the firefighting equipment, that can be expensive. | 00:17:00 | |
I think we should have a running inventory on SCBA's and. | 00:17:04 | |
Education equipment. Some of that might not make the $5000 mark, but would be purchased out. I'd like to lower that down to the | 00:17:11 | |
1000. | 00:17:14 | |
And keep in mind. | 00:17:18 | |
And this may or may not change your your input, but we. | 00:17:20 | |
If it's a wear item like turn out year, we generally don't list that because it has a very short, useful life I. | 00:17:25 | |
So does that. | 00:17:36 | |
Fact, You know, I think canisters are long enough that. | 00:17:38 | |
What's people's thoughts on the 1000 for item 3? | 00:18:14 | |
I agree with them. | 00:18:18 | |
I'm in agreement. | 00:18:21 | |
Aggressive. | 00:18:22 | |
I'm good with that. I'm good, OK? | 00:18:25 | |
**** it's unanimous. Everybody agrees we'll change that to 1000. | 00:18:29 | |
Should we make a new motion with the with our amounts in here, you can amend it, just amend it, right? | 00:18:37 | |
Any other? Any more discussion? | 00:18:46 | |
Any other questions? | 00:18:48 | |
So we're amending the motion to have item number two be $5000 and that's the renovating. | 00:18:51 | |
Item three, well we approved the motion blank and now we're putting in the dollars amount under the amendment. Yeah, so with the | 00:18:59 | |
amended motion, item 2, the cost of improving or renovating an existing building or improvements that would be 5000. | 00:19:07 | |
Machinery or equipment. | 00:19:16 | |
And furniture would be 1000 or more. | 00:19:19 | |
And in new construction projects in excess of 5000? | 00:19:22 | |
BJP. | 00:19:34 | |
All in favor of the motion with the amendments? Say aye, aye. All opposed. | 00:19:41 | |
Motion carries. | 00:19:49 | |
You got to copy for us to sign on, Jerry. | 00:19:54 | |
I do OK. | 00:19:56 | |
This one. | 00:19:59 | |
No. | 00:20:01 | |
The wipe there is not. | 00:20:10 | |
He was helpful into this. | 00:21:48 | |
He's all caught up here. | 00:22:16 | |
We're at the public, OK? | 00:22:21 | |
All right, anybody from the public would like to speak, come on up to the microphone, State your name and address and. | 00:22:24 | |
Looks like we're moving on. Good time. So come on up and. | 00:22:32 | |
We'll entertain public input at this point. | 00:22:36 | |
Bye. | 00:22:42 | |
OK. | 00:22:46 | |
Good evening. I wasn't wasn't totally sure if there was a spot on the agenda for a general update. | 00:22:51 | |
And I just wanted to offer that, if that. | 00:22:59 | |
Sure, Prudent. OK. | 00:23:01 | |
Just wanted to give you an update. We have since I believe the last time we've met, we've talked at length about getting the | 00:23:05 | |
change from a split company model for your fire department over to a dedicated engine company that out of station one that is | 00:23:12 | |
something that is in progress. We're working. That change has been made and has been filled with overtime in large part from our | 00:23:20 | |
current firefighters that have worked in a dual capacity in the past. | 00:23:27 | |
That has been a very positive change for the service that I think. | 00:23:35 | |
The New Albany Township Fire District Fire District is receiving. We have initiated a hiring process to fill those positions on a | 00:23:39 | |
full time basis. That process applications of leave are due at the end of the month with an interview scheduled with Chief | 00:23:45 | |
Franklin and. | 00:23:51 | |
Through the middle of June with a PT standard. | 00:23:59 | |
Like I said, an interview process. | 00:24:04 | |
We're hopeful to get through that process quickly so that we can have those full time folks in place as quickly as possible. | 00:24:07 | |
I did include in the. | 00:24:15 | |
Information that was sent over that was requested a budget for the rest of the year. I didn't know if the board has had an | 00:24:19 | |
opportunity to look that over, give any thoughts, offer any feedback or if that would be something that we could get an approval | 00:24:24 | |
on at this meeting. | 00:24:30 | |
Any questions? | 00:24:40 | |
How many men are on? | 00:24:43 | |
Crew tonight. Right now. I'm sorry. How many guys do you have on the ladder truck right now? Should be at this moment, I'm not | 00:24:44 | |
sure. I know we've had a three on today because of the. | 00:24:50 | |
Fact that we're scheduling overtime. | 00:24:56 | |
I don't know if we still have 3 on at this moment. | 00:24:58 | |
No, I've got checked with the chief before the meeting, yet we have one. | 00:25:00 | |
After 8:00 there is a 0. | 00:25:04 | |
There's no fire coverage tonight. Well, we have fire coverage, so we're just playing that dual role. Still we're working towards. | 00:25:07 | |
I'm confused if we have fire coverage and we have 0 firefighters that. | 00:25:13 | |
So we have the firefighters that are on duty, as we have for the last 18 years on duty where they're on duty for the for the | 00:25:21 | |
department. They're working throughout the district. | 00:25:26 | |
And on the inferences. | 00:25:32 | |
We also have off duty personnel that will respond in if there's an addition, if there's an additional need. | 00:25:34 | |
That's not the way I understand it. | 00:25:42 | |
That's not the way I understand we're supposed to have firefighters at the Firehouse where we provide a Firehouse waiting for. | 00:25:45 | |
Someone to come off an ambulance back to the Firehouse, come off the ambulance. | 00:25:53 | |
And put on turn out year is is not what a homeowner wants to hear. | 00:25:59 | |
Under the impression that we were going to have a dedicated 3 main crew 24/7 and that is what we're working towards, yes Sir. | 00:26:06 | |
I thought that's what you said in your press conference. | 00:26:13 | |
We are then we would have that effective March 25th. We have to establish that on our schedule March 25th and because we're | 00:26:17 | |
filling that with overtime, how many times has that not been filled, I would have to get a number for you. | 00:26:23 | |
I pretty much know the number. | 00:26:30 | |
But thank you for that. Let me ask you a question, Sir. | 00:26:34 | |
We're a far district board. | 00:26:39 | |
Yes, for house bars respond to traffic accidents, et cetera. | 00:26:40 | |
If there's zero firefighters at the Firehouse. | 00:26:48 | |
And you said there's people out on ambulances. Yes, it'll come back to the far house. Yes. Switch gear and get on a fire truck. | 00:26:51 | |
Yes, Sir. | 00:26:56 | |
And my law enforcement background and emergency responses. Time is of the essence. One minute can make a difference. | 00:27:01 | |
You're going to tell me that you think that? | 00:27:09 | |
It's fair to the public that we, I don't I don't misunderstand this is not this is not the the the type of service that I look to | 00:27:12 | |
provide on your behalf. This is the this is the type of service that this board has received for the last 18 years And and we're | 00:27:21 | |
trying to make a change to give you what you would expect. Well I don't know if it's what we expect but what we pay for. | 00:27:29 | |
With taxpayer money, what would pay for is for fire service. Yes Sir. And I believe you receive fire service. It's not the | 00:27:39 | |
immediate getting out the door within two minutes. | 00:27:46 | |
That's getting far service in New Albany Township. | 00:27:54 | |
I would not say so, Sir. No. | 00:27:57 | |
That's all I have. That's that's the big thing was. | 00:27:59 | |
When you first came out with it, it was going to be a dedicated 3 main Creek. Yes, that was March 25th. Yes, for a month and a | 00:28:02 | |
half man, but you're still making progress. | 00:28:06 | |
Yes, but we have requested, I believe in writing maybe four times to meet with this board to discuss this progress and we've not | 00:28:10 | |
been able to sit down other than with Mr. Fee and Mr. Swearens. | 00:28:16 | |
We're trying to make this this move. | 00:28:23 | |
And understandably, we've put these positions in as of March to fill these positions on overtime, but we've got nine positions now | 00:28:27 | |
that suddenly weren't there before. We're diligently trying to fill these roles. But I can't move forward without some sort of | 00:28:34 | |
understanding from this board that that's going to be acceptable and we're going to be able to continue. If I hire people, they | 00:28:41 | |
have to know that they're going to have a job. Well, I I respect that, but also. | 00:28:49 | |
You have requested to meet with the board. I know you met with a couple of board members. | 00:28:56 | |
But. | 00:29:03 | |
I requested, I think some other board members, We've also requested a lot from you as far as financial records, training records, | 00:29:06 | |
a lot of stuff. We've requested that. | 00:29:11 | |
And gave you ample time to get it back to us. And we received nothing, so why would we meet? | 00:29:16 | |
We forwarded. You had a deadline on that. | 00:29:24 | |
Yes, Sir. And when did we get that and and when when did we get it? We had that to you last week. And what was the deadline for | 00:29:27 | |
public, What was the deadline that we requested? I don't recall. The letter came out that was within March 31st was the deadline | 00:29:33 | |
to turn that back to us and we got it last week and we were very clear that we were working through our audit with the State Board | 00:29:39 | |
of Accounts as you have. So we're going to try to try to make sure that if we're submitting documents and information to you that | 00:29:45 | |
is accurate. | 00:29:51 | |
As we've worked through that, you've seen the type of information that we've been able to provide. | 00:29:58 | |
Would you agree with me that new Army Township citizens have not been receiving adequate fire service? I believe that in instances | 00:30:04 | |
the New Albany Township Fire District has received more services than what they've had, you know, under contract. But there's been | 00:30:10 | |
instances where that is fell short fell short if if I could just you'll have to forgive me. All right. So I'm kind of new to being | 00:30:16 | |
on this board, but. | 00:30:23 | |
And I know laws and contracts, but I don't know the firefighting side of it. Yes, ma'am. So as I'm reviewing these contracts, I | 00:30:30 | |
just want to make sure that I, I have a full understanding of what the contract is between New Chapel and New Albany Township. And | 00:30:37 | |
I thought it was just the original contract, but then I found there was an amendment and and you were at that board meeting back | 00:30:45 | |
in July 2021 where the board authorized an additional payment of 270. | 00:30:53 | |
$5000, correct. Do you remember that? OK? | 00:31:01 | |
What it shows that you were there with with. | 00:31:07 | |
Chief Jamie Knoll at the time. I really don't want to get into those specifics. April, I'm sorry. I'm the attorney for New Chapel. | 00:31:09 | |
I don't want my clients happy to answer any questions. Go ahead and introduce yourself. I'm sorry. | 00:31:17 | |
Department. So I'll be happy to have those conversations with you if you want, but I really don't want my client. | 00:31:24 | |
Basically interrogated at this moment. What? I will say no, no, I just, I think when he's a lawyer it's a little different. Can I | 00:31:33 | |
ask you the question? | 00:31:38 | |
Theaters, yes, absolutely. So I'm, I'm referring back to this meeting in July of 2021 when. | 00:31:43 | |
The board here authorized the additional $275,000 which has been paid, which is being paid each year. | 00:31:49 | |
But according to the Minutes. | 00:31:57 | |
Part of that additional appropriation was to ensure that Bud Rd. was going to be staffed. | 00:32:00 | |
At all times, I don't have a copy of that amendment in our documents. | 00:32:07 | |
I don't believe. | 00:32:12 | |
I haven't went through many documents and what I do want to say is you know. | 00:32:15 | |
President Mills. | 00:32:20 | |
A lot of the documents that you asked. | 00:32:21 | |
Prosecutor Hurdle We'll be doing an intervention in that case. | 00:32:57 | |
So we're working pretty diligently. So the inability to meet that deadline, it was I I did have some communications with April. | 00:33:00 | |
Let her know, hey, I hope the board will give us some grace because we don't have these documents we have. | 00:33:05 | |
Haven't been able to mine the data. I wished you would have conveyed that to us before the 31st deadline. All that came. Even | 00:33:12 | |
after that we could have learned a little bit if you just communicated something. I understand and also I find that. | 00:33:18 | |
I don't know but. | 00:33:25 | |
I've been around for a while, you all know. | 00:33:27 | |
There's no backup system and I know state police sees it, they they seized one of our vehicles, one of our assets. | 00:33:30 | |
And there's no backup system, no iCloud, no thumb drives that you could provide U.S. financial records from. State police shut you | 00:33:37 | |
all down. | 00:33:41 | |
I know that I understand what you're saying that the the manner in which this was handled prior to last August. | 00:33:48 | |
I think it's remarkable and I don't totally understand how it all worked even prior. | 00:33:58 | |
The best I can do is give you what I can and I am doing everything I can to provide. | 00:34:05 | |
Understanding some moving forward, we're we're willing and interested in in putting these protections in place and making regular | 00:34:11 | |
reports to the board as as you would require. But I can't go back and do undo things that I wasn't responsible for. | 00:34:19 | |
Will absolutely take the responsibility for everything that we've. | 00:34:29 | |
Tried to put in place as of late and and how we move forward well I think it started in June of 2023. | 00:34:34 | |
The State Police investigation with Mr. Null. | 00:34:42 | |
And you took over, I think January 4th as CEO. | 00:34:45 | |
February 8th Okay and here we are in May and. | 00:34:53 | |
Nothing's changed in my opinion from my reviews. We still don't have fire service. | 00:34:56 | |
We don't need ambulances coming from. | 00:35:02 | |
If they got patients, how are they going to respond back to the Firehouse to get on a fire truck? I don't. I don't. I don't see | 00:35:05 | |
how that works. | 00:35:09 | |
So to me, you're in clear violation of our contract to provide far service. I would say that this is how this relationship has | 00:35:15 | |
worked since its inception in 2006. | 00:35:20 | |
Former Chief Gnome made it very clear to us who worked for the department that the Board was in agreement with the fact that we | 00:35:26 | |
provide primary EMS service and was in agreement with the fact that firefighters would work in a split company model. | 00:35:33 | |
Understanding since January and February that that is not the expectation of this board. We're working to change that. We wouldn't | 00:35:42 | |
live up to your expectation, Matt. I got to inject this. I have to, I've been on the Board about 14 years. | 00:35:49 | |
And it's never, ever been stated by you. | 00:35:58 | |
Jamie Knoll. | 00:36:03 | |
Paul Holcomb, who's been at Army. I've never heard of a split model that was never explained to anyone on the board since I've | 00:36:05 | |
been a member. | 00:36:09 | |
Is that true? Would you agree that's a true statement? I don't know if that's a true statement for me. Or did you ever tell us | 00:36:14 | |
that it was a split model? I was not in a position to explain anything to the board. Well, not you. You were there at that meeting | 00:36:20 | |
where we approved the 275,000. You brought me a cup of coffee. I remember it clearly. And you worked the meetings and you could | 00:36:26 | |
have called and told us. You don't have any problem reaching out to me now. | 00:36:32 | |
No, Sir, the dynamic has changed. It's changed for me too. Thank you. | 00:36:39 | |
Thank you. Just a. | 00:36:45 | |
Right here Matt and the letter that you sent us on April 10th and it's, yeah, I mean you even admit it right here with a dedicated | 00:36:46 | |
staffing in place and it's not, it's not in place the the the positions are in place on our scheduling system now. I mean do you | 00:36:53 | |
all feel in if we have a vacant site when I'm sorry. | 00:37:00 | |
I can get your dates if you'd like. | 00:37:09 | |
I like that. OK. I'd like to say when you all have actually been on the truck, my friend. OK. | 00:37:11 | |
That's not a problem. Does anybody else have anything? | 00:37:18 | |
Anybody else have any questions? | 00:37:23 | |
We don't have access to any of the firehouses anymore. | 00:37:24 | |
We can change that. That's not a problem. | 00:37:27 | |
What we would do? Why was it changed without even telling us that we can't get in the Firehouse? I don't believe that the board | 00:37:32 | |
has ever had access. | 00:37:36 | |
You've never been in our door system. We've always given the generic. I used to have access. There was always a generic code that | 00:37:40 | |
was given to the president. | 00:37:44 | |
That was always the practice. | 00:37:49 | |
But we can be happy to give access, full access to everybody. We'll just need to get some information for the door system and | 00:37:51 | |
Deputy Chief Open will take care of that. | 00:37:56 | |
Well, there's a multitude of issues in my opinion. | 00:38:05 | |
Anything else? | 00:38:13 | |
My wife make a motion. | 00:38:15 | |
Well, it's also great to continue. | 00:38:17 | |
Go ahead, go ahead. | 00:38:23 | |
The motion is that the only Township Fire Protection District Board terminates the current Fire Protection contract with New | 00:38:25 | |
Chapel Fire effective at 6:00 PM on May 31st, 2024. | 00:38:31 | |
Motion by. | 00:38:41 | |
Chris Wiseman. | 00:38:42 | |
Vacate the current contract with New Chapel Fire. | 00:38:44 | |
Do I have second? | 00:38:48 | |
Seconded by Chris Swearens. Any discussion? | 00:38:50 | |
No discussion. All in favor? Say aye. Aye. All opposed. | 00:38:57 | |
Motion carries. | 00:39:04 | |
With that having been done, I would like to make a motion to enter into MO Us with neighboring fire companies immediately so that | 00:39:13 | |
our residents have Fire Protection services. | 00:39:18 | |
And those would be with New Albany Township Fire Protection District. The current ones are with New Chapel. | 00:39:26 | |
So we have a motion for MO use from Eric Furnish, second by Ben Fee. Any discussion on? | 00:39:34 | |
Mous with the surrounding fire districts for. | 00:39:41 | |
Fire Protection. | 00:39:45 | |
No discussion all in favor of the motion. Say aye. | 00:39:49 | |
Aye, all opposed. | 00:39:53 | |
Motion carries. | 00:39:55 | |
I can see that over here. | 00:40:02 | |
Do you have any other motions? | 00:40:15 | |
Did you didn't, did she? | 00:40:21 | |
I want to make a motion to proceed with starting our own fire company. | 00:40:23 | |
New Albany Township Fire Protection District Fire Company and moving forward with that in accordance with state statute. | 00:40:29 | |
We've got a second and a third. | 00:40:39 | |
Any discussion? | 00:40:43 | |
On the motion any discussion. | 00:40:45 | |
All in favor. | 00:40:49 | |
Of the only Township fire district forming its own fire department. All in favor? Say aye. Aye. All opposed. | 00:40:50 | |
Motion carries. | 00:40:59 | |
The other board business. If not, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn the board. | 00:41:04 | |
Shahid Kapoor. | 00:41:12 | |
I'll make a motion with dirt. I'll second. | 00:41:15 | |
Motion to adjourn. Been seconded. Any discussion motion carries. We're all done. 6:47 PM. | 00:41:19 |
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Hey, you like to welcome everybody? | 00:00:15 | |
The Albany Township Fire Board public meeting, sorry we're a little bit late, ran over in our executive meeting. | 00:00:18 | |
I'd like to call a meeting to order, do roll call. Start down there with you, Mr. Wiseman. | 00:00:25 | |
Jennifer Kern, Eric Furnish, Daryl Mills, Chris Wireless. | 00:00:32 | |
OK, meetings in order. We all stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, please. | 00:00:40 | |
United States of America to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:48 | |
Of course we don't have a printed agenda, so. | 00:01:10 | |
So we'll do. | 00:01:15 | |
War. And he called me in, Gordon. | 00:01:18 | |
OK, then we'll do minutes. We'll prove minutes. | 00:01:22 | |
Trying to get our agenda pulled up here. Sorry we didn't have our printed copies. | 00:01:27 | |
OK, now we're going to. | 00:01:41 | |
Board had a chance to read all the minutes from our last meeting so. | 00:01:45 | |
We don't have printed copies, we don't have a printer, but any any questions or any board members any questions about the. | 00:01:50 | |
Minutes from the last meeting. | 00:01:58 | |
And just to be clear, we have the meeting minutes since. | 00:02:00 | |
Our last regular meeting in the special meeting since then, So we have January 17th, February 15th and March 14th of 24. They were | 00:02:07 | |
all sent by e-mail I. | 00:02:12 | |
So does he, by having changes to those. | 00:02:21 | |
Anybody having changes in minutes? | 00:02:24 | |
OK, entertain a motion to approve the minutes. | 00:02:26 | |
Make a motion to approve minutes. | 00:02:30 | |
Second OK, Motion approved by Chris Wiseman. | 00:02:32 | |
Any discussion? | 00:02:35 | |
By Chris Lawrence and do we have any discussion? | 00:02:37 | |
Will those be posted online for the public to see? | 00:02:42 | |
Do we know that? | 00:02:45 | |
We don't have printed copies. | 00:02:47 | |
We can. | 00:02:49 | |
Not sure what medium we would use for that, but I didn't know if that went through the clerk's office or how that. | 00:02:51 | |
We do have to. We do post these with State Board of Accounts and I assume they'd be available for for for open records. | 00:02:58 | |
All right. All in favor of the Minutes. Say aye. Aye. | 00:03:08 | |
Any opposed? | 00:03:14 | |
Nay, motion carries. They'll be coming around for signature. | 00:03:15 | |
Financial management, I'll let me think, OK. | 00:03:25 | |
All right, we're going to. | 00:03:28 | |
Go over review our financial statements for the last quarter and Eric furnished our financial Secretary will roll over those. | 00:03:29 | |
All right. | 00:03:39 | |
I'll be sitting around for signatures. For review and signatures, we've got a. | 00:03:44 | |
Our W Banco statement for our general checking. | 00:03:50 | |
And we've got a. | 00:03:57 | |
We've got that for the first three months of the year, so that'll be passed around. So that'll be the month of January, February | 00:04:00 | |
and March. | 00:04:04 | |
We also have our new Washington State Bank account. | 00:04:11 | |
Statement as of the end of the first quarter. That's a quarterly statement, so with W Banco. | 00:04:14 | |
At the end of March, we had a total of 782,317 spot 79. | 00:04:22 | |
And with new Washington State Bank in our savings, we got 121,630 spot 91. | 00:04:30 | |
And. | 00:04:38 | |
We also have CDs of around 480,000, but we don't get statements on those. So I'm going to pass these around for review and | 00:04:42 | |
signature and it it'll show all the outstanding or all the. | 00:04:49 | |
Disbursements checks during the First quarter. | 00:04:57 | |
I think the board's already reviewed these. We had them emailed to us earlier. Is there any? | 00:05:03 | |
Everyone entertain a motion for the. | 00:05:18 | |
Financially approved. | 00:05:21 | |
Motion for Rule of Financial Records. | 00:05:23 | |
I have second. | 00:05:26 | |
Second motion by Ben Fee to approve the financial seconded by Chris Swearens. Any discussion on the financials. | 00:05:29 | |
048, So we're passing them around. Do I have any questions? | 00:05:39 | |
Also included in that is that well. | 00:05:45 | |
We'll do another one for. | 00:05:48 | |
We'll do another one for this, OK, We'll do that. | 00:05:52 | |
So this will just be the bank statements where we got a motion. So we'll do that. | 00:05:55 | |
OK. | 00:06:00 | |
All favor of the motion. | 00:06:02 | |
Except the financial statement, say aye. | 00:06:05 | |
Aye, aye. All opposed. | 00:06:08 | |
Site Night. | 00:06:11 | |
Motion carries. | 00:06:13 | |
Also have the. | 00:06:16 | |
The printouts for the general account as I've been to the quarter, the debt service account, and the cumulative fire. | 00:06:18 | |
And I will forward those. | 00:06:28 | |
To be reviewed. | 00:06:33 | |
And it also has an accounts payable voucher showing everything that has. | 00:06:38 | |
Been written during the quarter. | 00:06:43 | |
OK. OK. Thank you. | 00:07:05 | |
Did you get that all out there? | 00:07:10 | |
I'm also going to pass around our annual financial report that was just completed at the end of February and. | 00:07:23 | |
That's been distributed by e-mail and. | 00:07:33 | |
It's our gateway report. | 00:07:38 | |
We have to file in the Indiana Gateway Government Unit system. | 00:07:40 | |
So provide that as well. | 00:07:45 | |
I think we worked till, yeah, let's wait till these come through. | 00:08:08 | |
Resigning. | 00:08:16 | |
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Bye, bye. | 00:08:19 | |
I think we approve. | 00:09:55 | |
I think we, you know we should approve that in the accounts payable in the Ledger. | 00:09:57 | |
Everybody will make a motion for the gateway. | 00:10:06 | |
Catering Report Ledger, Ledger and Motion Counts table. | 00:10:09 | |
That's from State Board of accounts on our audit. | 00:10:15 | |
Motion to accept the. | 00:10:19 | |
Reports from the State Board of Accounts I'll second. | 00:10:21 | |
Motion and second made by Jennifer. Any discussion? | 00:10:24 | |
No discussion. All in favor, say aye. All opposed motion come. | 00:10:31 | |
I am pleased to announce that we. | 00:10:36 | |
We just went through an audit. | 00:10:42 | |
We had a an earlier we had an early investigation audit, kind of a forensic audit tied to the investigation of Jamie, no? | 00:10:45 | |
And that came out clean and then we have a regular, we are regularly audit either on a three-year or a five year basis. This time | 00:10:56 | |
it it, it went five years and that audit started in December. | 00:11:05 | |
And we just wrapped that up in in March and we've got a clean result on that. | 00:11:14 | |
All the board members should have gotten from the audit State Board of Accounts, a report on any you know, anything from that. | 00:11:22 | |
It wasn't a perfect audit. There is no such thing as a perfect audit, but there were no material findings and anything that had | 00:11:33 | |
been flagged from prior audit had been corrected in the meantime. So we're really happy to report that we're through with that | 00:11:40 | |
process. It was a huge undertaking. | 00:11:46 | |
It does give me confidence that the state of Indiana is doing what they need to do to help. | 00:11:54 | |
You know, guide municipalities and ensure that the taxpayer money is being used properly. So anyways, I just wanted that you all | 00:11:59 | |
should have gotten an e-mail on that, but I wanted to everybody get there for Mr. Schuler with SBA. | 00:12:06 | |
OK, so anyways, glad to be done again. Huge undertaking and. | 00:12:13 | |
But necessary situation and and glad we're able to kind of focus on other things now. | 00:12:22 | |
And that's it for financial report. | 00:12:29 | |
All right. Thank you. Eric. Is there any new business to be brought before the board? | 00:12:31 | |
Any old business we need to clear up? | 00:12:40 | |
So we're starting with old business, yeah. | 00:12:43 | |
In your business. | 00:12:49 | |
Everybody needs to go over. I think we don't really have anything. I think we pretty much. | 00:12:51 | |
Covered it. | 00:12:56 | |
If I got any new business to bring up? | 00:13:02 | |
I do. I would like for us to have a revised capital asset policy in place that's a little more comprehensive. | 00:13:06 | |
I had emailed that out to everybody for review and. | 00:13:17 | |
My. | 00:13:24 | |
My suggestion? We require 2 signatures on checks that are $5000 or more. | 00:13:25 | |
So we have 3 instances on this capital asset policy. | 00:13:32 | |
That we can insert an amount and my suggestion is to use 5000 for that. So one, I just wanted to confirm that everybody was good | 00:13:37 | |
with the wording on this if they were fine with it and then secondly if they were fine with 5000 as the amounts used. | 00:13:46 | |
So if we renovate a building or improve a bit an existing building. | 00:13:57 | |
If it exceeds 5000, it would have to be in our capital asset policy. If it's below that, it could be, we could list it in there. | 00:14:02 | |
It's optional and then the same thing if we buy machinery or equipment. | 00:14:11 | |
Or if we have new construction that exceeds 5000, it would have to be listed, but if it's less than that, we could list it. Of | 00:14:17 | |
course the policy that I came up with that it's it's a temp template from others, but obviously any land purchases or building | 00:14:25 | |
purchases regardless of value would be added to the capital asset policy list. | 00:14:32 | |
So want to get people's blessing on the wording? | 00:14:43 | |
Wanted to get a get your blessing on the wording if there's any changes and then also the amount of money. | 00:14:49 | |
That we are stipulating. | 00:15:00 | |
Where, where it would take in that, we'd have to list that in our capital asset policy. | 00:15:03 | |
Do you have additional printed copies of that? | 00:15:07 | |
Eric, did this come on the recommendation of the State Board of Accounts? | 00:15:18 | |
Yes, they wanted, they wanted a revised policy in place. | 00:15:22 | |
Reading, I'll just mention to the general public. | 00:15:47 | |
This also stipulates, you know not only are we going to record capital assets as they're purchased or renovations are made et | 00:15:51 | |
cetera, but an inventory of these assets will be conducted at least every two years. | 00:15:58 | |
And this is focused on assets that are more durable in nature. | 00:16:06 | |
So think land, buildings, improvements, machinery, furniture. | 00:16:10 | |
Construction, That kind of thing. | 00:16:16 | |
If I had a chance to read it any more time. | 00:16:28 | |
About you all down there, y'all we're doing good. | 00:16:33 | |
Doing good. Any if we can take a motion first before we have our discussion. Anybody wants to make a motion? | 00:16:36 | |
Motion to accept the capital assets policy motion like to 2nd that Eric for a second. | 00:16:45 | |
Any discussion? | 00:16:52 | |
I would like to discuss item three. I think the amount on that one should be a little bit lower. | 00:16:54 | |
With some of the firefighting equipment, that can be expensive. | 00:17:00 | |
I think we should have a running inventory on SCBA's and. | 00:17:04 | |
Education equipment. Some of that might not make the $5000 mark, but would be purchased out. I'd like to lower that down to the | 00:17:11 | |
1000. | 00:17:14 | |
And keep in mind. | 00:17:18 | |
And this may or may not change your your input, but we. | 00:17:20 | |
If it's a wear item like turn out year, we generally don't list that because it has a very short, useful life I. | 00:17:25 | |
So does that. | 00:17:36 | |
Fact, You know, I think canisters are long enough that. | 00:17:38 | |
What's people's thoughts on the 1000 for item 3? | 00:18:14 | |
I agree with them. | 00:18:18 | |
I'm in agreement. | 00:18:21 | |
Aggressive. | 00:18:22 | |
I'm good with that. I'm good, OK? | 00:18:25 | |
**** it's unanimous. Everybody agrees we'll change that to 1000. | 00:18:29 | |
Should we make a new motion with the with our amounts in here, you can amend it, just amend it, right? | 00:18:37 | |
Any other? Any more discussion? | 00:18:46 | |
Any other questions? | 00:18:48 | |
So we're amending the motion to have item number two be $5000 and that's the renovating. | 00:18:51 | |
Item three, well we approved the motion blank and now we're putting in the dollars amount under the amendment. Yeah, so with the | 00:18:59 | |
amended motion, item 2, the cost of improving or renovating an existing building or improvements that would be 5000. | 00:19:07 | |
Machinery or equipment. | 00:19:16 | |
And furniture would be 1000 or more. | 00:19:19 | |
And in new construction projects in excess of 5000? | 00:19:22 | |
BJP. | 00:19:34 | |
All in favor of the motion with the amendments? Say aye, aye. All opposed. | 00:19:41 | |
Motion carries. | 00:19:49 | |
You got to copy for us to sign on, Jerry. | 00:19:54 | |
I do OK. | 00:19:56 | |
This one. | 00:19:59 | |
No. | 00:20:01 | |
The wipe there is not. | 00:20:10 | |
He was helpful into this. | 00:21:48 | |
He's all caught up here. | 00:22:16 | |
We're at the public, OK? | 00:22:21 | |
All right, anybody from the public would like to speak, come on up to the microphone, State your name and address and. | 00:22:24 | |
Looks like we're moving on. Good time. So come on up and. | 00:22:32 | |
We'll entertain public input at this point. | 00:22:36 | |
Bye. | 00:22:42 | |
OK. | 00:22:46 | |
Good evening. I wasn't wasn't totally sure if there was a spot on the agenda for a general update. | 00:22:51 | |
And I just wanted to offer that, if that. | 00:22:59 | |
Sure, Prudent. OK. | 00:23:01 | |
Just wanted to give you an update. We have since I believe the last time we've met, we've talked at length about getting the | 00:23:05 | |
change from a split company model for your fire department over to a dedicated engine company that out of station one that is | 00:23:12 | |
something that is in progress. We're working. That change has been made and has been filled with overtime in large part from our | 00:23:20 | |
current firefighters that have worked in a dual capacity in the past. | 00:23:27 | |
That has been a very positive change for the service that I think. | 00:23:35 | |
The New Albany Township Fire District Fire District is receiving. We have initiated a hiring process to fill those positions on a | 00:23:39 | |
full time basis. That process applications of leave are due at the end of the month with an interview scheduled with Chief | 00:23:45 | |
Franklin and. | 00:23:51 | |
Through the middle of June with a PT standard. | 00:23:59 | |
Like I said, an interview process. | 00:24:04 | |
We're hopeful to get through that process quickly so that we can have those full time folks in place as quickly as possible. | 00:24:07 | |
I did include in the. | 00:24:15 | |
Information that was sent over that was requested a budget for the rest of the year. I didn't know if the board has had an | 00:24:19 | |
opportunity to look that over, give any thoughts, offer any feedback or if that would be something that we could get an approval | 00:24:24 | |
on at this meeting. | 00:24:30 | |
Any questions? | 00:24:40 | |
How many men are on? | 00:24:43 | |
Crew tonight. Right now. I'm sorry. How many guys do you have on the ladder truck right now? Should be at this moment, I'm not | 00:24:44 | |
sure. I know we've had a three on today because of the. | 00:24:50 | |
Fact that we're scheduling overtime. | 00:24:56 | |
I don't know if we still have 3 on at this moment. | 00:24:58 | |
No, I've got checked with the chief before the meeting, yet we have one. | 00:25:00 | |
After 8:00 there is a 0. | 00:25:04 | |
There's no fire coverage tonight. Well, we have fire coverage, so we're just playing that dual role. Still we're working towards. | 00:25:07 | |
I'm confused if we have fire coverage and we have 0 firefighters that. | 00:25:13 | |
So we have the firefighters that are on duty, as we have for the last 18 years on duty where they're on duty for the for the | 00:25:21 | |
department. They're working throughout the district. | 00:25:26 | |
And on the inferences. | 00:25:32 | |
We also have off duty personnel that will respond in if there's an addition, if there's an additional need. | 00:25:34 | |
That's not the way I understand it. | 00:25:42 | |
That's not the way I understand we're supposed to have firefighters at the Firehouse where we provide a Firehouse waiting for. | 00:25:45 | |
Someone to come off an ambulance back to the Firehouse, come off the ambulance. | 00:25:53 | |
And put on turn out year is is not what a homeowner wants to hear. | 00:25:59 | |
Under the impression that we were going to have a dedicated 3 main crew 24/7 and that is what we're working towards, yes Sir. | 00:26:06 | |
I thought that's what you said in your press conference. | 00:26:13 | |
We are then we would have that effective March 25th. We have to establish that on our schedule March 25th and because we're | 00:26:17 | |
filling that with overtime, how many times has that not been filled, I would have to get a number for you. | 00:26:23 | |
I pretty much know the number. | 00:26:30 | |
But thank you for that. Let me ask you a question, Sir. | 00:26:34 | |
We're a far district board. | 00:26:39 | |
Yes, for house bars respond to traffic accidents, et cetera. | 00:26:40 | |
If there's zero firefighters at the Firehouse. | 00:26:48 | |
And you said there's people out on ambulances. Yes, it'll come back to the far house. Yes. Switch gear and get on a fire truck. | 00:26:51 | |
Yes, Sir. | 00:26:56 | |
And my law enforcement background and emergency responses. Time is of the essence. One minute can make a difference. | 00:27:01 | |
You're going to tell me that you think that? | 00:27:09 | |
It's fair to the public that we, I don't I don't misunderstand this is not this is not the the the type of service that I look to | 00:27:12 | |
provide on your behalf. This is the this is the type of service that this board has received for the last 18 years And and we're | 00:27:21 | |
trying to make a change to give you what you would expect. Well I don't know if it's what we expect but what we pay for. | 00:27:29 | |
With taxpayer money, what would pay for is for fire service. Yes Sir. And I believe you receive fire service. It's not the | 00:27:39 | |
immediate getting out the door within two minutes. | 00:27:46 | |
That's getting far service in New Albany Township. | 00:27:54 | |
I would not say so, Sir. No. | 00:27:57 | |
That's all I have. That's that's the big thing was. | 00:27:59 | |
When you first came out with it, it was going to be a dedicated 3 main Creek. Yes, that was March 25th. Yes, for a month and a | 00:28:02 | |
half man, but you're still making progress. | 00:28:06 | |
Yes, but we have requested, I believe in writing maybe four times to meet with this board to discuss this progress and we've not | 00:28:10 | |
been able to sit down other than with Mr. Fee and Mr. Swearens. | 00:28:16 | |
We're trying to make this this move. | 00:28:23 | |
And understandably, we've put these positions in as of March to fill these positions on overtime, but we've got nine positions now | 00:28:27 | |
that suddenly weren't there before. We're diligently trying to fill these roles. But I can't move forward without some sort of | 00:28:34 | |
understanding from this board that that's going to be acceptable and we're going to be able to continue. If I hire people, they | 00:28:41 | |
have to know that they're going to have a job. Well, I I respect that, but also. | 00:28:49 | |
You have requested to meet with the board. I know you met with a couple of board members. | 00:28:56 | |
But. | 00:29:03 | |
I requested, I think some other board members, We've also requested a lot from you as far as financial records, training records, | 00:29:06 | |
a lot of stuff. We've requested that. | 00:29:11 | |
And gave you ample time to get it back to us. And we received nothing, so why would we meet? | 00:29:16 | |
We forwarded. You had a deadline on that. | 00:29:24 | |
Yes, Sir. And when did we get that and and when when did we get it? We had that to you last week. And what was the deadline for | 00:29:27 | |
public, What was the deadline that we requested? I don't recall. The letter came out that was within March 31st was the deadline | 00:29:33 | |
to turn that back to us and we got it last week and we were very clear that we were working through our audit with the State Board | 00:29:39 | |
of Accounts as you have. So we're going to try to try to make sure that if we're submitting documents and information to you that | 00:29:45 | |
is accurate. | 00:29:51 | |
As we've worked through that, you've seen the type of information that we've been able to provide. | 00:29:58 | |
Would you agree with me that new Army Township citizens have not been receiving adequate fire service? I believe that in instances | 00:30:04 | |
the New Albany Township Fire District has received more services than what they've had, you know, under contract. But there's been | 00:30:10 | |
instances where that is fell short fell short if if I could just you'll have to forgive me. All right. So I'm kind of new to being | 00:30:16 | |
on this board, but. | 00:30:23 | |
And I know laws and contracts, but I don't know the firefighting side of it. Yes, ma'am. So as I'm reviewing these contracts, I | 00:30:30 | |
just want to make sure that I, I have a full understanding of what the contract is between New Chapel and New Albany Township. And | 00:30:37 | |
I thought it was just the original contract, but then I found there was an amendment and and you were at that board meeting back | 00:30:45 | |
in July 2021 where the board authorized an additional payment of 270. | 00:30:53 | |
$5000, correct. Do you remember that? OK? | 00:31:01 | |
What it shows that you were there with with. | 00:31:07 | |
Chief Jamie Knoll at the time. I really don't want to get into those specifics. April, I'm sorry. I'm the attorney for New Chapel. | 00:31:09 | |
I don't want my clients happy to answer any questions. Go ahead and introduce yourself. I'm sorry. | 00:31:17 | |
Department. So I'll be happy to have those conversations with you if you want, but I really don't want my client. | 00:31:24 | |
Basically interrogated at this moment. What? I will say no, no, I just, I think when he's a lawyer it's a little different. Can I | 00:31:33 | |
ask you the question? | 00:31:38 | |
Theaters, yes, absolutely. So I'm, I'm referring back to this meeting in July of 2021 when. | 00:31:43 | |
The board here authorized the additional $275,000 which has been paid, which is being paid each year. | 00:31:49 | |
But according to the Minutes. | 00:31:57 | |
Part of that additional appropriation was to ensure that Bud Rd. was going to be staffed. | 00:32:00 | |
At all times, I don't have a copy of that amendment in our documents. | 00:32:07 | |
I don't believe. | 00:32:12 | |
I haven't went through many documents and what I do want to say is you know. | 00:32:15 | |
President Mills. | 00:32:20 | |
A lot of the documents that you asked. | 00:32:21 | |
Prosecutor Hurdle We'll be doing an intervention in that case. | 00:32:57 | |
So we're working pretty diligently. So the inability to meet that deadline, it was I I did have some communications with April. | 00:33:00 | |
Let her know, hey, I hope the board will give us some grace because we don't have these documents we have. | 00:33:05 | |
Haven't been able to mine the data. I wished you would have conveyed that to us before the 31st deadline. All that came. Even | 00:33:12 | |
after that we could have learned a little bit if you just communicated something. I understand and also I find that. | 00:33:18 | |
I don't know but. | 00:33:25 | |
I've been around for a while, you all know. | 00:33:27 | |
There's no backup system and I know state police sees it, they they seized one of our vehicles, one of our assets. | 00:33:30 | |
And there's no backup system, no iCloud, no thumb drives that you could provide U.S. financial records from. State police shut you | 00:33:37 | |
all down. | 00:33:41 | |
I know that I understand what you're saying that the the manner in which this was handled prior to last August. | 00:33:48 | |
I think it's remarkable and I don't totally understand how it all worked even prior. | 00:33:58 | |
The best I can do is give you what I can and I am doing everything I can to provide. | 00:34:05 | |
Understanding some moving forward, we're we're willing and interested in in putting these protections in place and making regular | 00:34:11 | |
reports to the board as as you would require. But I can't go back and do undo things that I wasn't responsible for. | 00:34:19 | |
Will absolutely take the responsibility for everything that we've. | 00:34:29 | |
Tried to put in place as of late and and how we move forward well I think it started in June of 2023. | 00:34:34 | |
The State Police investigation with Mr. Null. | 00:34:42 | |
And you took over, I think January 4th as CEO. | 00:34:45 | |
February 8th Okay and here we are in May and. | 00:34:53 | |
Nothing's changed in my opinion from my reviews. We still don't have fire service. | 00:34:56 | |
We don't need ambulances coming from. | 00:35:02 | |
If they got patients, how are they going to respond back to the Firehouse to get on a fire truck? I don't. I don't. I don't see | 00:35:05 | |
how that works. | 00:35:09 | |
So to me, you're in clear violation of our contract to provide far service. I would say that this is how this relationship has | 00:35:15 | |
worked since its inception in 2006. | 00:35:20 | |
Former Chief Gnome made it very clear to us who worked for the department that the Board was in agreement with the fact that we | 00:35:26 | |
provide primary EMS service and was in agreement with the fact that firefighters would work in a split company model. | 00:35:33 | |
Understanding since January and February that that is not the expectation of this board. We're working to change that. We wouldn't | 00:35:42 | |
live up to your expectation, Matt. I got to inject this. I have to, I've been on the Board about 14 years. | 00:35:49 | |
And it's never, ever been stated by you. | 00:35:58 | |
Jamie Knoll. | 00:36:03 | |
Paul Holcomb, who's been at Army. I've never heard of a split model that was never explained to anyone on the board since I've | 00:36:05 | |
been a member. | 00:36:09 | |
Is that true? Would you agree that's a true statement? I don't know if that's a true statement for me. Or did you ever tell us | 00:36:14 | |
that it was a split model? I was not in a position to explain anything to the board. Well, not you. You were there at that meeting | 00:36:20 | |
where we approved the 275,000. You brought me a cup of coffee. I remember it clearly. And you worked the meetings and you could | 00:36:26 | |
have called and told us. You don't have any problem reaching out to me now. | 00:36:32 | |
No, Sir, the dynamic has changed. It's changed for me too. Thank you. | 00:36:39 | |
Thank you. Just a. | 00:36:45 | |
Right here Matt and the letter that you sent us on April 10th and it's, yeah, I mean you even admit it right here with a dedicated | 00:36:46 | |
staffing in place and it's not, it's not in place the the the positions are in place on our scheduling system now. I mean do you | 00:36:53 | |
all feel in if we have a vacant site when I'm sorry. | 00:37:00 | |
I can get your dates if you'd like. | 00:37:09 | |
I like that. OK. I'd like to say when you all have actually been on the truck, my friend. OK. | 00:37:11 | |
That's not a problem. Does anybody else have anything? | 00:37:18 | |
Anybody else have any questions? | 00:37:23 | |
We don't have access to any of the firehouses anymore. | 00:37:24 | |
We can change that. That's not a problem. | 00:37:27 | |
What we would do? Why was it changed without even telling us that we can't get in the Firehouse? I don't believe that the board | 00:37:32 | |
has ever had access. | 00:37:36 | |
You've never been in our door system. We've always given the generic. I used to have access. There was always a generic code that | 00:37:40 | |
was given to the president. | 00:37:44 | |
That was always the practice. | 00:37:49 | |
But we can be happy to give access, full access to everybody. We'll just need to get some information for the door system and | 00:37:51 | |
Deputy Chief Open will take care of that. | 00:37:56 | |
Well, there's a multitude of issues in my opinion. | 00:38:05 | |
Anything else? | 00:38:13 | |
My wife make a motion. | 00:38:15 | |
Well, it's also great to continue. | 00:38:17 | |
Go ahead, go ahead. | 00:38:23 | |
The motion is that the only Township Fire Protection District Board terminates the current Fire Protection contract with New | 00:38:25 | |
Chapel Fire effective at 6:00 PM on May 31st, 2024. | 00:38:31 | |
Motion by. | 00:38:41 | |
Chris Wiseman. | 00:38:42 | |
Vacate the current contract with New Chapel Fire. | 00:38:44 | |
Do I have second? | 00:38:48 | |
Seconded by Chris Swearens. Any discussion? | 00:38:50 | |
No discussion. All in favor? Say aye. Aye. All opposed. | 00:38:57 | |
Motion carries. | 00:39:04 | |
With that having been done, I would like to make a motion to enter into MO Us with neighboring fire companies immediately so that | 00:39:13 | |
our residents have Fire Protection services. | 00:39:18 | |
And those would be with New Albany Township Fire Protection District. The current ones are with New Chapel. | 00:39:26 | |
So we have a motion for MO use from Eric Furnish, second by Ben Fee. Any discussion on? | 00:39:34 | |
Mous with the surrounding fire districts for. | 00:39:41 | |
Fire Protection. | 00:39:45 | |
No discussion all in favor of the motion. Say aye. | 00:39:49 | |
Aye, all opposed. | 00:39:53 | |
Motion carries. | 00:39:55 | |
I can see that over here. | 00:40:02 | |
Do you have any other motions? | 00:40:15 | |
Did you didn't, did she? | 00:40:21 | |
I want to make a motion to proceed with starting our own fire company. | 00:40:23 | |
New Albany Township Fire Protection District Fire Company and moving forward with that in accordance with state statute. | 00:40:29 | |
We've got a second and a third. | 00:40:39 | |
Any discussion? | 00:40:43 | |
On the motion any discussion. | 00:40:45 | |
All in favor. | 00:40:49 | |
Of the only Township fire district forming its own fire department. All in favor? Say aye. Aye. All opposed. | 00:40:50 | |
Motion carries. | 00:40:59 | |
The other board business. If not, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn the board. | 00:41:04 | |
Shahid Kapoor. | 00:41:12 | |
I'll make a motion with dirt. I'll second. | 00:41:15 | |
Motion to adjourn. Been seconded. Any discussion motion carries. We're all done. 6:47 PM. | 00:41:19 |