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	9:00 to 5:00.	00:00:00
	All right, we're a few minutes late, but welcome to the February 4th, 2025 Commissioners meeting. If you have a cell phone, please	00:00:05
	turn it to silent.	00:00:10
	If you'll stand and join me with the Pledge of Allegiance.	00:00:15
	I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.	00:00:19
	And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.	00:00:24
	Alright.	00:00:34
	All board members are in attendance. You'll please.	00:00:37
	Just join me in a moment of silence for individual prayer, meditation, or reflection. We'll get ready for the meeting.	00:00:41
	All right. Thank you.	00:01:07
	No one signed in to speak.	00:01:11
	To any of the agenda items, we will allow public comment.	00:01:13
	At the end of the meeting.	00:01:17
	Our agenda has been posted. I do have two items that I would like to add by unanimous consent to tonight's meeting.	00:01:20
	One is a letter in support of BEAD funding.	00:01:26
	For one of our local suppliers, we'll get more information on that from Nick.	00:01:30
	Look for a motion to add that to the agenda.	00:01:36
	So moved.	00:01:39
	Second. OK, all in favor.	00:01:41
	And also an addition of a resolution under.	00:01:44
	This foxes agenda for a supplement to a consulting agreement.	00:01:50
	With our.	00:01:54
	Landfill.	00:01:56
	Ongoing settlement litigation issues.	00:01:57
	Motion approved.	00:02:00
	Second uh.	00:02:01
	All in favor, aye aye.	00:02:02
	All right, old business. We have a discussion of contract with Virgin Corporation Chair Bush and Christy Fox, our attorney.	00:02:05
	Good evening, Sheriff Bush.	00:02:16
	So the first item I have, I have an extra item but it's not an agenda. But I just will give you a report.	00:02:18
	So we have a contract.	00:02:22
	Reference to backup batteries.	00:02:24
	Miss Fox is Mr. Fox has been going over that contract and we actually just got it here at the 11th hour.	00:02:27
	The last update that we wanted.	00:02:32
	Under the.	00:02:34
	The statute, it needed to be read a certain way. So Floyd County, Indiana, for the Flow County sheriff's departments, we got that	00:02:35
	added in.	00:02:38
	The gentleman left his office and came back, so we got all that death 11th hour. So we have a contract for.	00:02:42
	District was able to sign it. Y'all proof?	00:02:47
	Make a motion.	00:02:50
	Go ahead and accept that new contract.	00:02:52
	And I have looked at it.	00:02:54
	Sheriff Bush shared that with me right before the meeting. I've reviewed that to confirm that change was made.	00:02:56
	OK, OK. Now second. Yeah, motion is second. All in favor. Aye, aye.	00:03:00
	So the other item, if you don't mind, I'll just present. It's our annual jail report.	00:03:05
	From last year so.	00:03:09
	Statue We get to the Circuit Court.	00:03:11
	I like to give you all copy and present here if you have any questions.	00:03:12
	And also give it to all the judges what they have.	00:03:16
	So OK.	00:03:18
	Questions. You can look through that report.	00:03:27
	Mr. Luke will be familiar with it.	00:03:29
	It's been 2000. Get statistics on the jail.	00:03:32
	Top ten charges of this Notice this is an average stay. It's in different things.	00:03:35
	OK, when do you need that signed copy back?	00:03:40
	Of the contract, yes.	00:03:44
	Oh yeah, but you don't need. The report was just for.	00:03:46
	That was 4 year olds.	00:03:48
	Her view. Thank you.	00:03:50
	Thank you.	00:03:53
	Chairman.	00:04:01
	All right, Item 2 under Old Business County Attorney Christy Fox.	00:04:08
	Thank you. The three resident. Sorry, 3 ordinances there, Ordinance FC.	00:04:12
	2020 FCO. I apologize. 20250506 and 07:00.	00:04:18
	Those are ordinances amending the current establishment documents for three different fire districts. The New Albany Township Fire	00:04:23
	District is the 05, the Highlander Fire District is the 06 and the Georgetown Fire District is the 07.	00:04:31
	We discussed those changes last month. They were voted on.	00:04:39
	It was a 21 approval.	00:04:42
	With that, could not be approved in the unit by unanswered consent in one meeting, so it's back for a second reading this evening.	00:04:44
	Happy to answer any questions.	00:04:48
	OK. I'll look for these to be brought into discussion formally by one of the Board members.	00:04:54
	So.	00:05:01
	These ordinance.	00:05:03
	These ordinances.	00:05:04
	Of a different directly effects everyone of our fire boards. The initiative is designed to streamline the members of each board to	00:05:05
	five members each.	00:05:09
	Five members. That gives our boards the ability to meet and conduct critical business. At times that has been stifled with larger	00:05:14
	boards not having a quorum.	00:05:18
	Additionally, this ordinance ensures that the public has access to who serves.	00:05:22
	On their local fire boards, each member shall be provided an e-mail address.	00:05:26
	By the district they represent, and those members will be listed on both the county and the district's website.	00:05:31
	Furthermore, it requires that the fire districts.	00:05:37
	Not associated with the territory meet monthly and their agendas are posted in accordance to statute and additionally on their	00:05:40
	district websites and social media pages.	00:05:44
	This action is designed to ensure our fire boards are opening up, operating openly and transparently.	00:05:48
	More transparency from our fire district boards is something that has been asked by several members of the public, and I agree	00:05:54
	with them.	00:05:57
	This ordinance will take effect immediately.	00:06:00
	And.	00:06:03
	Do we want to?	00:06:04
	Vote on the ordinances first before we.	00:06:05
	Yes, trustees and they, I think they need to be done singularly as well. That is correct, yeah.	00:06:08
	All right, so I'll make a motion to approve Floyd County Ordinance 2025 dot.	00:06:14
	Dash 05.	00:06:18
	Bending resolution FCR 2006.	00:06:19
	Dash 3 establishing the New Albany Township Fire District.	00:06:23
	I'll second motion.	00:06:27
	I have a motion and a second.	00:06:28
	Any further discussion?	00:06:32
	I will just say that I spoke with the.	00:06:35
	President of the.	00:06:38
	The board and he's in favor of this. He even sent me a statement. It's in support of that tonight.	00:06:39
	And so.	00:06:46
	All in favor.	00:06:47
	Hi. Hi.	00:06:49
	2nd is Floyd County Ordinance 2025 Dash 06 amending Floyd County Ordinance 2022 Dash 41 establishing the Highlander Fire	00:06:52
	Protection District.	00:06:56
	I'll make a motion.	00:07:04
	Second time.	00:07:05
	OK. Motion is second. Any further discussion?	00:07:06
	All right, again, I did speak with a Highlander Fire District Board president and he is in favor of this. So all in favor, aye,	00:07:11
	aye, aye.	00:07:15
	And finally have Floyd County Ordinance 2025 Dash 07 amending resolution Floyd County, I'm sorry, Floyd County Resolution 2026	00:07:22
	Dash 3B.	00:07:27
	Establishing Georgetown Township Fire Protection District.	00:07:32
	I'll make a motion.	00:07:36
	We have a second. Any further discussion?	00:07:39
	All right. And once more I spoke with the president of the Georgetown Township Fire District Board and he stated he was in favor	00:07:43
	of this as well. So all in favor.	00:07:48
	All right, so those three do pass.	00:07:54
	As a matter of orders, but I think this would flow better. I'm going to bring board and committee reports up to here to.	00:07:59
	Go ahead and put forward the nominations for.	00:08:05
	The five board members for.	00:08:08
	Each district and again these should be done.	00:08:11
	Separately by.	00:08:14
	OK.	00:08:16
	So starting with.	00:08:18
	New Albany Township, we will have Collin New.	00:08:19
	Scott Sears.	00:08:22
	Ben Gupe, give Kenny.	00:08:24
	And Danny Jacobs.	00:08:27
	Is that a motion?	00:08:30
	I have a motion a second. All in favor. Aye aye.	00:08:33
	Right the next.	00:08:37
	Have a motion to approve for Highlander fire Matt Smith.	00:08:39
	Mike Nevin.	00:08:43
	Michael Bloom.	00:08:44
	Heather Schonkweiler and Bill Fender.	00:08:46
	I second that motion.	00:08:49
	OK, a motion to second all in favor.	00:08:51
	Aye.	00:08:54
	And for Georgetown, fire.	00:08:55
	I make a motion for Michael Moody.	00:08:57
	David Fair, Jeffrey McNulty, Travis Sharp.	00:09:00
	And Mark Ringenberg.	00:09:03
	2nd the motion.	00:09:05
	Motion a second. All in favor, aye.	00:09:07
	All right. Any further discussion or comment on that from board?	00:09:11
	Not at this time.	00:09:15
	I do want to say that.	00:09:17
	With the presidents of each board, I did remind them that although these will be the five designated board members.	00:09:18
	It is permissible and encouraged to have any comment or input that they want from public or other previous board members at their	00:09:26
	meetings, but those five would be the ones that meet.	00:09:31
	And vote on that formally so.	00:09:36
	Again.	00:09:38
	We wanted to keep them all uniform with regard to number. Each of those districts represents basically the same.	00:09:43
	Proportion of our population within the county.	00:09:48
	And.	00:09:51
	Please give it a chance to work.	00:09:53
	New business, County Engineer Horatio.	00:09:55
	Good evening.	00:10:03
	On item A you have the community crossing.	00:10:05
	Page project that need to be open.	00:10:09
	You should have all the beats.	00:10:12
	How many do we have here?	00:10:15
	Thank you.	00:10:17
	OK. So we did receive a couple at the beginning of the meeting.	00:10:20
	Is there anyone else who wishes to?	00:10:24
	Submit a bid.	00:10:27
	All right.	00:10:29
	We will proceed.	00:10:30
	1st if you can just announce who the first one came from. Libs paving.	00:10:32
	Right.	00:10:37
	Lips paving submitted.	00:10:48
	644,569 thousand.	00:10:51
	$0.91.	00:10:55
	All right, so lips Paving 644,000 five 69.91.	00:10:57
	Looking for it. This one was from.	00:11:15
	APC.	00:11:21
	I'm looking for the e-mail.	00:11:24
	Music.	00:11:34
	Yeah, that drum roll or something. Which one's this from? I'm sorry, Frank.	00:11:36
	This was uh.	00:11:40
	All terrain paving and construction. Gotcha.	00:11:41
	That's a balance.	00:11:45
	No, no, I don't think so. I was going to say what?	00:11:47
	Should have a summary sheet somewhere I'm looking for.	00:11:49
	Balance sheet.	00:11:53
	We've asked for them to market in the past, may just need to.	00:12:01
	Ask them once more to do that. I know it's.	00:12:04
	OK, so.	00:12:07
	ATP 1,000,000.	00:12:09
	$38,033.65.	00:12:13
	Can you go through that number one more time?	00:12:17
	1 billion.	00:12:19
	38,000.	00:12:21
	OK, $33.	00:12:22
	$0.65.	00:12:25
	Louisville Paving Company.	00:12:31
	There we go. Yeah.	00:12:47
	$825,000.	00:12:48
	Louisville Paving, 825000.	00:12:52
	Oh, she gave me something I can't feel.	00:13:02
	This was hall paving.	00:13:14
	For 769,000.	00:13:16
	Call paving 769,000 even.	00:13:20
	Max construction.	00:13:38
	609573.	00:13:40
	All right, Mac instruction 609.	00:13:46
	573.	00:13:49
	Seeing our construction.	00:14:01
	Gordon.	00:14:04
	737.	00:14:13
	27413.	00:14:15
	C&R.	00:14:26
	737.	00:14:27
	274.	00:14:28
	.13.	00:14:30
	E&B paving.	00:14:32
	6.	00:14:36
	630,540.	00:14:38
	Any other paving Floyd County paving project six $30,504.	00:14:45
	All right. Need a motion to take these bids under.	00:15:03
	Advisement please so moved.	00:15:06
	Second, all in favor?	00:15:08
	Aye.	00:15:10
	All right. Thank you.	00:15:12
	Next item Second item on the agenda is the old incense like.	00:15:16
	Change order.	00:15:22
	After the project was beat out, we review that we went after the.	00:15:24
	Field and.	00:15:27
	We found that some other sections.	00:15:29
	Off the road.	00:15:33
	Close to me.	00:15:35
	Area we decide to.	00:15:38
	Include those areas.	00:15:41
	Do it and do the right.	00:15:45
	So the the war was increased by.	00:15:47
	Approximately.	00:15:52
	But we also.	00:15:54
	Increase the cost by.	00:15:57
	39,000.	00:15:59
	And then the regional project was.	00:16:01
	Two walls design.	00:16:04
	After we walk through and look at it.	00:16:06
	I would decide that.	00:16:09
	Three walls a little bit longer.	00:16:10
	We'll cover the whole.	00:16:13
	That area much better, so we extend.	00:16:15
	Of the heel.	00:16:17
	There was going to be extended.	00:16:19
	Certain amount of feet.	00:16:21
	Down the hill and.	00:16:22
	October is going to be extended, too.	00:16:24
	So the change over the original.	00:16:26
	Was 2 millions.	00:16:30
	860.	00:16:32
	One 48144.70.	00:16:33
	And no, that's the final cause of the original cause was.	00:16:38
	823.	00:16:43
	So the cost decreases.	00:16:45
	38,844.70.	00:16:47
	So it's approximately 1 point.	00:16:52
	3/8.	00:16:54
	I think it's well worth it.	00:16:58
	We want to cover more area.	00:17:00
	And then?	00:17:01
	We will have a road that is going to have.	00:17:04
	A large span of.	00:17:06
	7075 to 80.	00:17:08
	Yeah, so I hope I I won't be here too.	00:17:10
	Is this the project to Max?	00:17:14
	Yes, yeah, yeah. And the project now includes.	00:17:17
	Total paving and resurfacing from.	00:17:21
	Captain Frank Rd. to Quarry Rd. so there will be no gas.	00:17:24
	Right, but I said the scope of the project now includes that as well.	00:17:31
	So we'll have that not not on this, I understand that, but I just.	00:17:35
	Yeah, it's both going to be combined.	00:17:38
	To get an entire new length.	00:17:42
	Yeah, so.	00:17:44
	Any questions for her issue?	00:17:47
	No, it's just a change order of an additional 39,000, correct.	00:17:49
	Do we need a motion?	00:17:54
	No discussion. Yes. Yeah, I'll make a motion to accept that change order.	00:17:56
	Motion second, any further discussion or comments, I'm going to comment say.	00:18:01
	This is something that I'm very proud that we're getting out in front of this. You know, when I came into the office.	00:18:06
	We weren't even going to begin looking at this in earnest until November of this year.	00:18:11
	And now we should be completed by Thanksgiving of this year.	00:18:16
	Regards to this right?	00:18:20
	Yes, yes, yeah, that's it. They had a yes at the table. So now put them on the point here, so.	00:18:23
	Can we hold you to that?	00:18:29
	All right, motion a second. All in favor. Aye, aye, aye.	00:18:31
	Thank you. And would you like to give any updates on Bridge 51? I know you've been out there a lot, as have most of us, so Sunday	00:18:34
	night.	00:18:39
	With.	00:18:44
	Checking around, we've been breaching then uh.	00:18:47
	We were.	00:18:49
	Really concerned about the.	00:18:51
	How quick the bank was being eroded out.	00:18:53
	We contact the bridge inspection.	00:18:57
	A company that do all the inspections of the county.	00:19:00
	And they were there early Monday morning.	00:19:03
	And they determined that.	00:19:06
	Dumping some heavy.	00:19:09
	Great great rap will help to cover.	00:19:11
	The bank and prevent further erosion.	00:19:15
	We think that we are dumping out.	00:19:18
	But we're still thinking about the brain that is going.	00:19:21
	Tomorrow.	00:19:25
	I will. I'll be monitoring that.	00:19:27
	To make sure that everything is.	00:19:30
	Doing fine.	00:19:32
	I don't think it's been nothing major is going to happen that way. We have it right now and but I'll keep posting you all about	00:19:33
	what the situation is, but.	00:19:37
	OK.	00:19:42
	Here's your change order.	00:19:43
	And just just you get you and the sheriff were there after the day have broken, not before the damn brook that goes.	00:19:46
	Not before. OK.	00:19:53
	All right. Thank you, Horatio.	00:19:57
	Continuing with new business building development director Nick Creevy.	00:20:00
	A few items for you this evening. The 1st is.	00:20:06
	Approval of the replat of sundown farms this.	00:20:11
	Plat #1357.	00:20:14
	This is a.	00:20:17
	Minor modification of this plat. Additional 3 lots.	00:20:19
	It was approved by the Planning Commission.	00:20:24
	And it is ready for your awesome group.	00:20:27
	All right. Any questions or discussion regarding the matter?	00:20:34
	We need to form a motion, are we?	00:20:44
	No, I think you guys usually just sign, OK.	00:20:46
	There's two of these, right?	00:21:05
	Another Yeah, we do have another major plat here.	00:21:08
	I meant, I meant on this. You only had two here, right?	00:21:11
	3 got it all right.	00:21:14
	Three within.	00:21:22
	Well, we're signing that one. I'll I have the Highlands Section 2 AI have a.	00:21:28
	Open agreement for your approval.	00:21:34
	And the plat #1573, we do have the performance bond.	00:21:36
	For this section.	00:21:41
	It was for.	00:21:48
	1,201,168.	00:22:13
	$1000 for the infrastructure improvements.	00:22:16
	So we do have all the requirements.	00:22:20
	Sorry, can you repeat that?	00:22:27
	So I need the development agreement approved.	00:22:28
	For this section of the subdivision.	00:22:32
	And then we have the plat for approval with it.	00:22:35
	We have received the performance bond for the infrastructure.	00:22:38
	Of 1,200,000 some I mentioned.	00:22:42
	For that work.	00:22:47
	OK, so you are seeking formal approval?	00:22:48
	Agreement. Yeah, Yes.	00:22:52
	I'll make a motion to approve the Highland Section 2A Development Agreement and Platt 1573.	00:22:54
	I'll second.	00:23:00
	Have a motion to second all in favor.	00:23:01
	Just give those to Jason.	00:23:05
	Right here.	00:23:11
	Is this the only one to sign?	00:23:13
	Or to us on the one below 2.	00:23:15
	Just this one.	00:23:17
	All right, so while we're doing that, you have your bead letters. Yes, we have the.	00:23:20
	Letter of support for.	00:23:26
	Charter submittal of for the lead application.	00:23:28
	This is to provide.	00:23:33
	Web services throughout the county.	00:23:35
	A few weeks ago, we did AT&T requesting a support letter for for their application. They're not asking for any funding.	00:23:38
	It's really that we support.	00:23:46
	Trying to provide.	00:23:48
	I have a draft letter here so I would ask that.	00:23:50
	You improve this and allow AL to sign it outside of the meeting.	00:23:55
	OK. I think we're familiar with that.	00:24:01
	Concept at this point by now I hope that they they can get their funding on it. So I'll look for a motion to approve allowance for	00:24:03
	me to sign that once we have a.	00:24:07
	Finalized copy.	00:24:12
	Yeah, someone.	00:24:13
	Second, emotions second.	00:24:15
	All in favor.	00:24:17
	And then I did want to make it a.	00:24:20
	Couple announcements, one for the old Vincennes Highlander point.	00:24:23
	Intersection improvement.	00:24:29
	Tribe or Rd.	00:24:31
	We have.	00:24:33
	Confirmed with the last utility that they will be.	00:24:34
	Moving their infrastructure out later this month.	00:24:37
	Expected February 20th.	00:24:41
	With that, we will be able to come.	00:24:44
	Immense construction of that project.	00:24:46
	We are anticipating the start of work.	00:24:48
	Beginning of March.	00:24:51
	So we will be closing that section of the road, we will be notifying the school and the local residents and businesses.	00:24:52
	Directly with the detour information.	00:25:01
	Additional closure information.	00:25:05
	We will be putting that on the website as well.	00:25:07
	Do you know?	00:25:10
	From what points that's going to be closed and for how long?	00:25:12
	I'd have to look at the construction schedule.	00:25:16
	I believe the last.	00:25:19
	Plan was to have it.	00:25:22
	Completed prior to the start of next year's school year, so.	00:25:24
	August, yeah, end of July would be the end of construction.	00:25:28
	Road closures.	00:25:33
	Between.	00:25:35
	Tuscany.	00:25:36
	It's a Duffy, but not not all at once.	00:25:38
	There may be sections.	00:25:43
	Open and close.	00:25:44
	During that period, OK.	00:25:47
	And then the last item I just wanted to give an update on the bridge.	00:25:52
	51 project in terms of the.	00:25:56
	Funding schedule that we have currently in place within.	00:25:58
	That we are still securing the final five parcels.	00:26:01
	Through eminent domain condemnation process which is.	00:26:07
	We are following the regulatory guidelines.	00:26:11
	For that, we hope to have that completed.	00:26:13
	No later than the end of March.	00:26:17
	That would keep us in on schedule to meet the September.	00:26:20
	10th letting date for the project.	00:26:26
	For our funding.	00:26:29
	For fiscal year 26.	00:26:31
	So start a construction would still be.	00:26:33
	Anticipated to be late this year.	00:26:36
	Next year.	00:26:39
	And I'll just add.	00:26:41
	Nick knows because I've been lighting him up on the phone that.	00:26:42
	We're working with officials in Washington and Indianapolis to try to.	00:26:45
	Speed that up, but.	00:26:49
	Even if even if it starts tomorrow, we're still looking at.	00:26:52
	A gap there, but I'm hopeful that we can maybe move it up a little bit.	00:26:56
	I mean, you're talking about with two pretty large bureaucracies who are controlling the purse strings on this. I get that.	00:27:01
	But.	00:27:07
	We have, I think we've made a little bit.	00:27:08
	They know of the problem, that's for sure. At this point in time, I agree. And I think it may be reasonable that we may be able to	00:27:11
	move it up several months.	00:27:15
	If things go.	00:27:20
	Well, for us.	00:27:22
	And construction for this is still anticipated to be a two year project. So it will still be some time before that bridge is fully	00:27:25
	operational, the new bridge.	00:27:30
	All right, well, keep pushing.	00:27:35
	Yeah. Thank you.	00:27:38
	All right, County Attorney.	00:27:40
	Is Christy Fox representing Fox Law Office?	00:27:43
	That's a change this month.	00:27:47
	OK, so the first thing I have there is the OPC Pest Control Service agreement for the.	00:27:48
	I won't refer to it as Chase Building, 120 W Spring Street, the new Foley County building on Spring Street.	00:27:54
	I reviewed that, no concerns there. That's a continuation of services for that building.	00:28:00
	OK, need a motion, right?	00:28:07
	Yes, yes. Make a motion to accept OPC Pest Control Service Agreement.	00:28:09
	Second emotion is second all in favor. Aye aye.	00:28:13
	OK. The second thing I have, there's a contract for attorney services from the coroner's office. They presented that through the	00:28:18
	the statute that requires that to go through you all for review and approval.	00:28:23
	It is in line, has all the language necessary, so I would.	00:28:28
	Unless you have any questions, recommend approval and allow Mr. Tomlin to sign that.	00:28:33
	All right. Any questions regarding that?	00:28:39
	Not at all. Look for a motion.	00:28:42
	To make a motion to accept.	00:28:45
	I'll second it in motion to second all in favor.	00:28:47
	Aye, aye.	00:28:50
	OK, the last thing I have.	00:28:52
	Is a resolution for the approval of a supplement to the consulting agreement related to the Clark Floyd Landfill litigation?	00:28:54
	It's it's a a consultant that has been hired in that litigation.	00:29:02
	For Clark and Floyd County.	00:29:07
	So that resolution, I do not have that number. I apologize. We can allow Susanna to fill that in when she is back.	00:29:09
	But it's FCR 2025 and then whatever resolution number we are on.	00:29:16
	Make a motion to accept.	00:29:23
	I'll second it.	00:29:25
	Motion a second. All in favor.	00:29:26
	Aye, aye. And I do have a copy of that signature. I'm sorry because I'm not not sure if that was in the packet. That's all I have.	00:29:29
	All right, Next is new business listed under me regarding the petition to amend the Indiana statutes pertaining to a county's	00:29:36
	abilities to assess impact fees.	00:29:41
	I I think this.	00:29:47
	Is an important issue that has kind of developed as part of our ongoing committee on impact fees.	00:29:49
	One of its members.	00:29:57
	Mr. Dale.	00:29:58
	Has prepared this and would like participation, so if you have time after the meeting to hang around and consider signing this.	00:30:01
	I'm going to be signing it after the meeting as a.	00:30:08
	And my role as a.	00:30:11
	Just a citizen.	00:30:13
	So.	00:30:14
	But trying to.	00:30:17
	Have the state.	00:30:19
	Legislature look at expanding.	00:30:20
	The scope of impact fees Indiana is fairly limited with regards to that.	00:30:24
	Mister Man, do you want to come and speak to the?	00:30:28
	Topic.	00:30:32
	Dale man guards down.	00:30:37
	We've been calling for impact fee for years.	00:30:39
	Nobody would look at it and when we first started we were told we couldn't do it.	00:30:42
	Well, we could. It's in 941994. That's when the state allowed.	00:30:47
	But the state only allows impact fees for infrastructure.	00:30:51
	Parks in drainage.	00:30:56
	And it can only stay in one area where the impact is implemented.	00:30:58
	That limits very much and everybody, everybody's hauling for more taxes, more tax money, tax increases.	00:31:03
	And the reason all this main increase is wanting because of growth.	00:31:09
	And you're asking the old people?	00:31:14
	To pay for all these tax increases, this is one way we'll have the money up front.	00:31:16
	If we can get the state to do it for services, services is what cost?	00:31:21
	And we can't get any impact fees for service.	00:31:26
	In this petition is asking for service.	00:31:29
	Schools fire safety is asking for all of it.	00:31:31
	But the state of Indiana is one of the only states that limits us.	00:31:36
	To just roads.	00:31:39
	Drainage in parks.	00:31:41
	And I'm asking this is a.	00:31:42
	Mr. Moore wrote this up is pretty legal document.	00:31:44
	That we want to go to the state, our state reps.	00:31:47
	All of them if we can, because we can't be the only community that's going through this.	00:31:50
	We can't.	00:31:54
	And you, everybody knows what we're going through is our tax increases.	00:31:56
	This would deeply help and I really urge people to sign it.	00:31:59
	And I really urge the leadership of this county to push it.	00:32:03
	Because you guys know the people up north.	00:32:06
	Yeah, I do have a question.	00:32:11
	So a, do you have a legislator that you're working with to author that?	00:32:13
	We I've left it up, Mr. Kneeler, we talked about it. I've left it up before. I presented this to anybody and he asked for the	00:32:19
	letter.	00:32:23
	This is a petition.	00:32:27
	And you guys know them all?	00:32:29
	You guys pretty much know our, let's say our reps.	00:32:31
	Our Senators.	00:32:34
	And if you all could present it to him.	00:32:35
	Would be held a lot more power than my little groups can.	00:32:38
	I did tell Mister Mann that once he has signatures.	00:32:42
	I'll be happy to.	00:32:44
	Present a copy of it to each of the members of the state legislature that I know.	00:32:46
	And I'll do that.	00:32:51
	Hopefully this will solve a lot if we'd had it.	00:32:53
	We would have had it.	00:32:56
	In 94.	00:32:57
	With the end limits that we have, we wouldn't be in their shape we are now.	00:33:00
	And any more questions?	00:33:04
	You have that on hand for folks to sign? I do have. I have two or three copies with them. OK.	00:33:06
	I don't have a question, but I will say that this is something you and I have talked about before at length.	00:33:11
	I agree with you 100% this should have been done a long time ago, but you know, the laws are what the laws are. Hopefully we can	00:33:16
	get that changed.	00:33:19
	Additionally, another thing I hope they can get changed Is that to my fringe?	00:33:23
	That causes his problems. That's what causes his problems as well, so.	00:33:27
	That's for a battle for another day. But.	00:33:31
	I agree with you, but if we could get them, if we could, if we could get it for services.	00:33:34
	Roads and services would be a whole lot.	00:33:38
	But the services are where our cost is and we can't touch it.	00:33:41
	With impact base.	00:33:44
	Schools and Schools is involved in this too.	00:33:45
	If we can get to schools involved, I've talked to.	00:33:48
	President. School Board.	00:33:50
	They're worth thinking about it.	00:33:53
	Get everybody involved and it's killing us.	00:33:55
	OK. Any more questions?	00:33:59
	No Hang around afterwards and.	00:34:01
	Appreciate it. Yeah, if somebody wants to take on a page for to get signatures, I'm sure they'll appreciate that.	00:34:03
	Do we have any public comment from any government?	00:34:09
	Any public comment?	00:34:15
	Oh well, there you go. Sorry, you were.	00:34:17
	I I'd just like to say.	00:34:22
	I agree with.	00:34:24
	Mr. Mann.	00:34:25
	Endeavor.	00:34:27
	I'm prepared to sign Mr. Mann.	00:34:29
	So just from where I sit and then.	00:34:32
	Kind of frivolous, but.	00:34:34
	Even with bridges and.	00:34:36
	Everything we got going on for the account, I'm still proud of that.	00:34:38
	And I think it's gonna be exciting times.	00:34:42
	Going forward in the next three to five years.	00:34:45
	I think our county could be a lot better than it has been.	00:34:48
	Hopefully we'll be more proud to live in Floyd County at that time than we are now.	00:34:51
	All right.	00:34:56
	Any other government officials?	00:34:58
	All right, public comments will be public.	00:35:00
	Anyone who'd like to speak to any item would.	00:35:03
	Can we limit that to three minutes tonight?	00:35:06
	All right, seeing no one tonight on that.	00:35:09
	Have board appointments? We've already done committee reports.	00:35:13
	Jason, any activity you'd like to discuss this week?	00:35:17
	Well, I did attend my first.	00:35:20
	Kipped a meeting.	00:35:23
	Via the Internet, it's gonna take a while to get used to that. That's a little bit new of a new realm for me, so I'm looking	00:35:25
	forward to learning a new role and scheduled to go over and.	00:35:30
	Meet with them one day here in the next couple weeks.	00:35:35
	And talk to them a little bit more.	00:35:38
	To the road workers contract, we're still.	00:35:41
	Waiting to hear back from from.	00:35:44
	Roadway so.	00:35:46
	OK, nothing new there.	00:35:48
	Right, the only thing that I've done recently other than take care of all my.	00:35:51
	Jobs is I did go to a.	00:35:56
	County Council workshop.	00:35:59
	Where the topic was EMS.	00:36:01
	And that was interesting to hear. There are different points of view.	00:36:04
	So stay tuned for that. I'm sure it'll be coming our way.	00:36:09
	All right, I.	00:36:13
	I had a couple of administrative meetings on the 23rd and the 30th met with.	00:36:15
	Mac on that change order on the 23rd for new extension, meaning the 27th.	00:36:19
	And a pretty lengthy discussion with Matt Dennison, the head of our Parks Department and.	00:36:25
	We really need public input.	00:36:31
	Coming up, we're going to have.	00:36:34
	Our consultants reports with regards to what they're going to be recommending for the Bob Lane Park as well as the CMP Community	00:36:36
	Park, and so look for those announcements when they come out.	00:36:41
	We had meetings for.	00:36:47
	The courthouse and the administrative building.	00:36:49
	Projects.	00:36:53
	We got a Floyd County Legacy Foundation forming meeting.	00:36:54
	And then the bridge has kept us kind of busy the last few days, so.	00:36:58
	Felons been burning up the lines so.	00:37:03
	Again, stabilization efforts on that are ongoing and I think they're they're bearing some fruit and, and.	00:37:07
	And we'll get a plan to see whether or not.	00:37:13
	We can economically get the bridge reopened.	00:37:15
	While we're pushing forward with the new bridge built so.	00:37:19
	That's all I had.	00:37:22
	I need approval of the Commissioners meeting minutes for January 21, 2024, so moved.	00:37:25
	Second, all in favor?	00:37:30
	Aye, aye. And they'll need approval of payroll and claims.	00:37:33
	Motion to approve.	00:37:37
	Second all in favor Aye. And our next Commissioners meeting will be Tuesday, February 18th, 2025.	00:37:39
	At 6:00 PM.	00:37:47
	Any closing comments?	00:37:48
	I do. You have do too, don't you, Frank? You want to go first? You want me to?	00:37:51
	No, I don't mind. Oh, I thought you said you had some. Yeah, I'll, I'll go ahead and go.	00:37:55
	So since I became county commissioner, I've been working diligently on improving and enhancing many aspects of our emergency	00:38:00
	services.	00:38:03
	My only goal in doing so is to ensure that when people are in this community are most likely having the worst day of their life.	00:38:08
	That the assistance that we provide you is highly trained, highly equipped and operationally ready to solve your problem.	00:38:14
	Two of the solutions that I have been working on are bringing our fire departments together and providing a stable and effective	00:38:21
	emergency medical system.	00:38:24
	These solutions are not just a pipe dream developed on a whim.	00:38:29
	These are systems in which I've collected applicable data and I have peer reviewed by outside and unbiased sources.	00:38:32
	Geographically, Floyd County is the second smallest county in Indiana.	00:38:39
	We have a total of 5 townships and three County Fire departments currently protecting.	00:38:44
	These jurisdictions currently Highlander Fire Protection District covers Greenville and Lafayette townships.	00:38:48
	Georgetown Fire Protection District covers Georgetown Township as well as contractual services to Franklin Township.	00:38:54
	And New Albany Township Fire Protection District provides Fire Protection to the unincorporated portions of New Albany.	00:39:00
	Township not including the City of New Albany.	00:39:05
	Historically there have been attempts in the past to combine these service I myself served.	00:39:09
	Commissioner Kamer as his subject matter expert in the last attempt.	00:39:14
	My recommendation was not to proceed with the county wide service at the time.	00:39:18
	Was based upon the application in which it was being done and not the theory that combining these services was a bad thing.	00:39:23
	During these discussions, it was determined that the goal of creating the system was to solely serve as a mechanism to create a	00:39:29
	county ambulance service.	00:39:33
	However, I quickly discovered there was critical terminology and inappropriately applied.	00:39:37
	For example, the desire to have personnel cross trained.	00:39:42
	That typically means that holding both fire and EMS certifications and is a common practice in most fire departments.	00:39:46
	However, what was really being discussed was the utilization of split companies.	00:39:52
	This would essentially place an ambulance in the same station as a fire apparatus and when a fire call came out.	00:39:57
	The crew would take a fire truck and when a medical call came out they would take the ambulance.	00:40:02
	To the untrained eye, one would say.	00:40:07
	Well, that sounds like a very efficient way.	00:40:09
	To provide both of their services. However, the reality is your community. You leave your community extremely vulnerable.	00:40:12
	And it puts your emergency responders in a very dangerous situation.	00:40:18
	Additionally, there was number supporting information to this transition.	00:40:22
	No fiscal analysis, no GIS information, and what was the clear indication of the lack of understanding of national standards and	00:40:25
	best practices by some of the participants?	00:40:29
	My recommendation was not to proceed.	00:40:34
	Today, our climate is much different.	00:40:37
	Than it was during our last discussion.	00:40:39
	We now have a better understanding of the geographical and staffing challenges. We also have fiscal information to understand the	00:40:41
	costs.	00:40:44
	It is clear that forming 1 fire district for Floyd County would likely not meet the long term needs of our county.	00:40:48
	However, a fire territory would.	00:40:54
	What makes the territory different?	00:40:57
	Than a district it is that it's more of a marriage than it is a merger.	00:40:59
	This allows already established districts and municipalities to pull their resources together and form 1 cohesive unit.	00:41:03
	This will streamline command staff policies, procedures, hiring practices, training, and even equipment.	00:41:10
	This also allows the rape.	00:41:17
	To fund these services to be equal.	00:41:19
	Amongst all the participants.	00:41:21
	Essentially, you will be paying no more.	00:41:24
	Or nor less than your neighbors jurisdictions.	00:41:26
	It is a much easier and cleaner way to provide these essential services to everyone in our county instead of having three	00:41:29
	different departments.	00:41:32
	With three different command Staffs, three different hiring standards, 3 different training regiments, and the long list of other	00:41:36
	redundancies that goes on and on and on.	00:41:41
	It is my hope that we can get all of our jurisdictions under a territory, and that includes Highlander and Franklin townships.	00:41:46
	Currently, Highlander has accumulated $2.3 million worth of debt.	00:41:52
	And that in itself excludes them from being part of the territory at this time.	00:41:57
	The commissioners have yet determined what we if we were going to even intervene with Franklin Township. However, I have voiced my	00:42:01
	concerns very clearly to my peers and we are monitoring the situation.	00:42:06
	Regarding EMS, I am one of three commissioners.	00:42:12
	We formed an EMS Advisory committee to determine that our community's needs from our EMS system.	00:42:15
	And we then formed an EMS task force to determine how those services would be delivered.	00:42:21
	Their conclusion of the task force was that the departments could not afford to take home.	00:42:26
	As they were struggling to stay afloat with their current service level.	00:42:31
	Therefore, since the need did obviously exist, those members felt a standalone county wide service would be the best option.	00:42:35
	This system would provide top of the line equipment utilizing some of the most advanced protocols and since that system would have	00:42:43
	a dedicated funding mechanism.	00:42:47
	We would be able to bill your insurance and whatever remained would.	00:42:51
	Be written off if you're a Floyd County.	00:42:54
	To me, that was a clear return on investment considering in 2024 there were 3546 calls for emergency medical services in Floyd	00:42:56
	County.	00:43:01
	The average amount the insurance company pays for ambulance service is between 425 and $450.	00:43:05
	Typically leaving the patient with the remaining balance of between 1000 and $2500 to be paid out of pocket.	00:43:12
	This last portion, I'm going to say something. To be quite honest, I don't think I should have to.	00:43:20
	But I'm going to.	00:43:24
	There is a small group of people who believe I am developing these services because I in some way am looking to create myself a	00:43:26
	job or enrich myself.	00:43:30
	I don't need a job.	00:43:35
	I have a job.	00:43:36
	I've been at that job for 25 years and I plan to be there at least seven more before I retire.	00:43:37
	I can't even collect my pension, I'm too young.	00:43:43
	It's nonsense.	00:43:46
	Applying on spending remind remaining days of my career.	00:43:49
	The organization which I started.	00:43:52
	And that has never changed.	00:43:54
	So I say this loud and clear for the record.	00:43:56
	I will not be creating myself a job.	00:43:59
	Or have any interest in being a Chief Officer or any employee of any capacity for any Floyd County Fire or EMS organization.	00:44:02
	So let's just put that nonsense to rest.	00:44:09
	The systems I develop are to save lives.	00:44:11
	And for no reason more.	00:44:14
	And that's all I have to say.	00:44:16
	Thank you.	00:44:19
	Very much.	00:44:20
	Frank.	00:44:23
	You're here.	00:44:24
	All right. My only closing comment. I thank everybody for being here.	00:44:28
	Thank our first responders and engineers for.	00:44:34
	I had energetic response to our bridge issue on Sunday.	00:44:37
	I found that.	00:44:42
	Bridge.	00:44:45
	Road issues are kind of like medical issues. They tend to happen on Sundays and you're getting ready to go on vacation, right? So	00:44:47
	that seems to what's happening.	00:44:50
	We still have.	00:44:54
	Anywhere between 3:00 and 4:00.	00:44:57
	Public meetings on the fire. There's there's two more public hearings and I do encourage everyone to come. We have gone out of our	00:44:59
	way to make these as transparent as possible.	00:45:05
	Even by giving the.	00:45:11
	The people access to Pine View.	00:45:13
	Our streaming system and even have these recorded so anybody can watch them at anytime they feel necessary.	00:45:16
	So yes, there will be two more hearings and then there will be a vote.	00:45:23
	On whether they accept the Tory of territory or not.	00:45:27
	So I encourage everyone likewise to attend.	00:45:30
	Very informative.	00:45:34
	And lots of detail.	00:45:35
	And lots of handouts that you could take home with you and go over.	00:45:38
	So.	00:45:41
	With that, I'll look for a motion to.	00:45:43
	To adjourn.	00:45:45
	So moved.	00:45:46
	2nd.	00:45:47

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	9:00 to 5:00.	00:00:00
	All right, we're a few minutes late, but welcome to the February 4th, 2025 Commissioners meeting. If you have a cell phone, please	00:00:05
	turn it to silent.	00:00:10
	If you'll stand and join me with the Pledge of Allegiance.	00:00:15
	I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.	00:00:19
	And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.	00:00:24
	Alright.	00:00:34
	All board members are in attendance. You'll please.	00:00:37
	Just join me in a moment of silence for individual prayer, meditation, or reflection. We'll get ready for the meeting.	00:00:41
	All right. Thank you.	00:01:07
	No one signed in to speak.	00:01:11
	To any of the agenda items, we will allow public comment.	00:01:13
	At the end of the meeting.	00:01:17
	Our agenda has been posted. I do have two items that I would like to add by unanimous consent to tonight's meeting.	00:01:20
	One is a letter in support of BEAD funding.	00:01:26
	For one of our local suppliers, we'll get more information on that from Nick.	00:01:30
	Look for a motion to add that to the agenda.	00:01:36
	So moved.	00:01:39
	Second. OK, all in favor.	00:01:41
	And also an addition of a resolution under.	00:01:44
	This foxes agenda for a supplement to a consulting agreement.	00:01:50
	With our.	00:01:54
	Landfill.	00:01:56
	Ongoing settlement litigation issues.	00:01:57
	Motion approved.	00:02:00
	Second uh.	00:02:01
	All in favor, aye aye.	00:02:02
	All right, old business. We have a discussion of contract with Virgin Corporation Chair Bush and Christy Fox, our attorney.	00:02:05
	Good evening, Sheriff Bush.	00:02:16
	So the first item I have, I have an extra item but it's not an agenda. But I just will give you a report.	00:02:18
	So we have a contract.	00:02:22
	Reference to backup batteries.	00:02:24
	Miss Fox is Mr. Fox has been going over that contract and we actually just got it here at the 11th hour.	00:02:27
	The last update that we wanted.	00:02:32
	Under the.	00:02:34
	The statute, it needed to be read a certain way. So Floyd County, Indiana, for the Flow County sheriff's departments, we got that	00:02:35
	added in.	00:02:38
	The gentleman left his office and came back, so we got all that death 11th hour. So we have a contract for.	00:02:42
	District was able to sign it. Y'all proof?	00:02:47
	Make a motion.	00:02:50
	Go ahead and accept that new contract.	00:02:52
	And I have looked at it.	00:02:54
	Sheriff Bush shared that with me right before the meeting. I've reviewed that to confirm that change was made.	00:02:56
	OK, OK. Now second. Yeah, motion is second. All in favor. Aye, aye.	00:03:00
	So the other item, if you don't mind, I'll just present. It's our annual jail report.	00:03:05
	From last year so.	00:03:09
	Statue We get to the Circuit Court.	00:03:11
	I like to give you all copy and present here if you have any questions.	00:03:12
	And also give it to all the judges what they have.	00:03:16
	So OK.	00:03:18
	Questions. You can look through that report.	00:03:27
	Mr. Luke will be familiar with it.	00:03:29
	It's been 2000. Get statistics on the jail.	00:03:32
	Top ten charges of this Notice this is an average stay. It's in different things.	00:03:35
	OK, when do you need that signed copy back?	00:03:40
	Of the contract, yes.	00:03:44
	Oh yeah, but you don't need. The report was just for.	00:03:46
	That was 4 year olds.	00:03:48
	Her view. Thank you.	00:03:50
	Thank you.	00:03:53
	Chairman.	00:04:01
	All right, Item 2 under Old Business County Attorney Christy Fox.	00:04:08
	Thank you. The three resident. Sorry, 3 ordinances there, Ordinance FC.	00:04:12
	2020 FCO. I apologize. 20250506 and 07:00.	00:04:18
	Those are ordinances amending the current establishment documents for three different fire districts. The New Albany Township Fire	00:04:23
	District is the 05, the Highlander Fire District is the 06 and the Georgetown Fire District is the 07.	00:04:31
	We discussed those changes last month. They were voted on.	00:04:39
	It was a 21 approval.	00:04:42
	With that, could not be approved in the unit by unanswered consent in one meeting, so it's back for a second reading this evening.	00:04:44
	Happy to answer any questions.	00:04:48
	OK. I'll look for these to be brought into discussion formally by one of the Board members.	00:04:54
	So.	00:05:01
	These ordinance.	00:05:03
	These ordinances.	00:05:04
	Of a different directly effects everyone of our fire boards. The initiative is designed to streamline the members of each board to	00:05:05
	five members each.	00:05:09
	Five members. That gives our boards the ability to meet and conduct critical business. At times that has been stifled with larger	00:05:14
	boards not having a quorum.	00:05:18
	Additionally, this ordinance ensures that the public has access to who serves.	00:05:22
	On their local fire boards, each member shall be provided an e-mail address.	00:05:26
	By the district they represent, and those members will be listed on both the county and the district's website.	00:05:31
	Furthermore, it requires that the fire districts.	00:05:37
	Not associated with the territory meet monthly and their agendas are posted in accordance to statute and additionally on their	00:05:40
	district websites and social media pages.	00:05:44
	This action is designed to ensure our fire boards are opening up, operating openly and transparently.	00:05:48
	More transparency from our fire district boards is something that has been asked by several members of the public, and I agree	00:05:54
	with them.	00:05:57
	This ordinance will take effect immediately.	00:06:00
	And.	00:06:03
	Do we want to?	00:06:04
	Vote on the ordinances first before we.	00:06:05
	Yes, trustees and they, I think they need to be done singularly as well. That is correct, yeah.	00:06:08
	All right, so I'll make a motion to approve Floyd County Ordinance 2025 dot.	00:06:14
	Dash 05.	00:06:18
	Bending resolution FCR 2006.	00:06:19
	Dash 3 establishing the New Albany Township Fire District.	00:06:23
	I'll second motion.	00:06:27
	I have a motion and a second.	00:06:28
	Any further discussion?	00:06:32
	I will just say that I spoke with the.	00:06:35
	President of the.	00:06:38
	The board and he's in favor of this. He even sent me a statement. It's in support of that tonight.	00:06:39
	And so.	00:06:46
	All in favor.	00:06:47
	Hi. Hi.	00:06:49
	2nd is Floyd County Ordinance 2025 Dash 06 amending Floyd County Ordinance 2022 Dash 41 establishing the Highlander Fire	00:06:52
	Protection District.	00:06:56
	I'll make a motion.	00:07:04
	Second time.	00:07:05
	OK. Motion is second. Any further discussion?	00:07:06
	All right, again, I did speak with a Highlander Fire District Board president and he is in favor of this. So all in favor, aye,	00:07:11
	aye, aye.	00:07:15
	And finally have Floyd County Ordinance 2025 Dash 07 amending resolution Floyd County, I'm sorry, Floyd County Resolution 2026	00:07:22
	Dash 3B.	00:07:27
	Establishing Georgetown Township Fire Protection District.	00:07:32
	I'll make a motion.	00:07:36
	We have a second. Any further discussion?	00:07:39
	All right. And once more I spoke with the president of the Georgetown Township Fire District Board and he stated he was in favor	00:07:43
	of this as well. So all in favor.	00:07:48
	All right, so those three do pass.	00:07:54
	As a matter of orders, but I think this would flow better. I'm going to bring board and committee reports up to here to.	00:07:59
	Go ahead and put forward the nominations for.	00:08:05
	The five board members for.	00:08:08
	Each district and again these should be done.	00:08:11
	Separately by.	00:08:14
	OK.	00:08:16
	So starting with.	00:08:18
	New Albany Township, we will have Collin New.	00:08:19
	Scott Sears.	00:08:22
	Ben Gupe, give Kenny.	00:08:24
	And Danny Jacobs.	00:08:27
	Is that a motion?	00:08:30
	I have a motion a second. All in favor. Aye aye.	00:08:33
	Right the next.	00:08:37
	Have a motion to approve for Highlander fire Matt Smith.	00:08:39
	Mike Nevin.	00:08:43
	Michael Bloom.	00:08:44
	Heather Schonkweiler and Bill Fender.	00:08:46
	I second that motion.	00:08:49
	OK, a motion to second all in favor.	00:08:51
	Aye.	00:08:54
	And for Georgetown, fire.	00:08:55
	I make a motion for Michael Moody.	00:08:57
	David Fair, Jeffrey McNulty, Travis Sharp.	00:09:00
	And Mark Ringenberg.	00:09:03
	2nd the motion.	00:09:05
	Motion a second. All in favor, aye.	00:09:07
	All right. Any further discussion or comment on that from board?	00:09:11
	Not at this time.	00:09:15
	I do want to say that.	00:09:17
	With the presidents of each board, I did remind them that although these will be the five designated board members.	00:09:18
	It is permissible and encouraged to have any comment or input that they want from public or other previous board members at their	00:09:26
	meetings, but those five would be the ones that meet.	00:09:31
	And vote on that formally so.	00:09:36
	Again.	00:09:38
	We wanted to keep them all uniform with regard to number. Each of those districts represents basically the same.	00:09:43
	Proportion of our population within the county.	00:09:48
	And.	00:09:51
	Please give it a chance to work.	00:09:53
	New business, County Engineer Horatio.	00:09:55
	Good evening.	00:10:03
	On item A you have the community crossing.	00:10:05
	Page project that need to be open.	00:10:09
	You should have all the beats.	00:10:12
	How many do we have here?	00:10:15
	Thank you.	00:10:17
	OK. So we did receive a couple at the beginning of the meeting.	00:10:20
	Is there anyone else who wishes to?	00:10:24
	Submit a bid.	00:10:27
	All right.	00:10:29
	We will proceed.	00:10:30
	1st if you can just announce who the first one came from. Libs paving.	00:10:32
	Right.	00:10:37
	Lips paving submitted.	00:10:48
	644,569 thousand.	00:10:51
	$0.91.	00:10:55
	All right, so lips Paving 644,000 five 69.91.	00:10:57
	Looking for it. This one was from.	00:11:15
	APC.	00:11:21
	I'm looking for the e-mail.	00:11:24
	Music.	00:11:34
	Yeah, that drum roll or something. Which one's this from? I'm sorry, Frank.	00:11:36
	This was uh.	00:11:40
	All terrain paving and construction. Gotcha.	00:11:41
	That's a balance.	00:11:45
	No, no, I don't think so. I was going to say what?	00:11:47
	Should have a summary sheet somewhere I'm looking for.	00:11:49
	Balance sheet.	00:11:53
	We've asked for them to market in the past, may just need to.	00:12:01
	Ask them once more to do that. I know it's.	00:12:04
	OK, so.	00:12:07
	ATP 1,000,000.	00:12:09
	$38,033.65.	00:12:13
	Can you go through that number one more time?	00:12:17
	1 billion.	00:12:19
	38,000.	00:12:21
	OK, $33.	00:12:22
	$0.65.	00:12:25
	Louisville Paving Company.	00:12:31
	There we go. Yeah.	00:12:47
	$825,000.	00:12:48
	Louisville Paving, 825000.	00:12:52
	Oh, she gave me something I can't feel.	00:13:02
	This was hall paving.	00:13:14
	For 769,000.	00:13:16
	Call paving 769,000 even.	00:13:20
	Max construction.	00:13:38
	609573.	00:13:40
	All right, Mac instruction 609.	00:13:46
	573.	00:13:49
	Seeing our construction.	00:14:01
	Gordon.	00:14:04
	737.	00:14:13
	27413.	00:14:15
	C&R.	00:14:26
	737.	00:14:27
	274.	00:14:28
	.13.	00:14:30
	E&B paving.	00:14:32
	6.	00:14:36
	630,540.	00:14:38
	Any other paving Floyd County paving project six $30,504.	00:14:45
	All right. Need a motion to take these bids under.	00:15:03
	Advisement please so moved.	00:15:06
	Second, all in favor?	00:15:08
	Aye.	00:15:10
	All right. Thank you.	00:15:12
	Next item Second item on the agenda is the old incense like.	00:15:16
	Change order.	00:15:22
	After the project was beat out, we review that we went after the.	00:15:24
	Field and.	00:15:27
	We found that some other sections.	00:15:29
	Off the road.	00:15:33
	Close to me.	00:15:35
	Area we decide to.	00:15:38
	Include those areas.	00:15:41
	Do it and do the right.	00:15:45
	So the the war was increased by.	00:15:47
	Approximately.	00:15:52
	But we also.	00:15:54
	Increase the cost by.	00:15:57
	39,000.	00:15:59
	And then the regional project was.	00:16:01
	Two walls design.	00:16:04
	After we walk through and look at it.	00:16:06
	I would decide that.	00:16:09
	Three walls a little bit longer.	00:16:10
	We'll cover the whole.	00:16:13
	That area much better, so we extend.	00:16:15
	Of the heel.	00:16:17
	There was going to be extended.	00:16:19
	Certain amount of feet.	00:16:21
	Down the hill and.	00:16:22
	October is going to be extended, too.	00:16:24
	So the change over the original.	00:16:26
	Was 2 millions.	00:16:30
	860.	00:16:32
	One 48144.70.	00:16:33
	And no, that's the final cause of the original cause was.	00:16:38
	823.	00:16:43
	So the cost decreases.	00:16:45
	38,844.70.	00:16:47
	So it's approximately 1 point.	00:16:52
	3/8.	00:16:54
	I think it's well worth it.	00:16:58
	We want to cover more area.	00:17:00
	And then?	00:17:01
	We will have a road that is going to have.	00:17:04
	A large span of.	00:17:06
	7075 to 80.	00:17:08
	Yeah, so I hope I I won't be here too.	00:17:10
	Is this the project to Max?	00:17:14
	Yes, yeah, yeah. And the project now includes.	00:17:17
	Total paving and resurfacing from.	00:17:21
	Captain Frank Rd. to Quarry Rd. so there will be no gas.	00:17:24
	Right, but I said the scope of the project now includes that as well.	00:17:31
	So we'll have that not not on this, I understand that, but I just.	00:17:35
	Yeah, it's both going to be combined.	00:17:38
	To get an entire new length.	00:17:42
	Yeah, so.	00:17:44
	Any questions for her issue?	00:17:47
	No, it's just a change order of an additional 39,000, correct.	00:17:49
	Do we need a motion?	00:17:54
	No discussion. Yes. Yeah, I'll make a motion to accept that change order.	00:17:56
	Motion second, any further discussion or comments, I'm going to comment say.	00:18:01
	This is something that I'm very proud that we're getting out in front of this. You know, when I came into the office.	00:18:06
	We weren't even going to begin looking at this in earnest until November of this year.	00:18:11
	And now we should be completed by Thanksgiving of this year.	00:18:16
	Regards to this right?	00:18:20
	Yes, yes, yeah, that's it. They had a yes at the table. So now put them on the point here, so.	00:18:23
	Can we hold you to that?	00:18:29
	All right, motion a second. All in favor. Aye, aye, aye.	00:18:31
	Thank you. And would you like to give any updates on Bridge 51? I know you've been out there a lot, as have most of us, so Sunday	00:18:34
	night.	00:18:39
	With.	00:18:44
	Checking around, we've been breaching then uh.	00:18:47
	We were.	00:18:49
	Really concerned about the.	00:18:51
	How quick the bank was being eroded out.	00:18:53
	We contact the bridge inspection.	00:18:57
	A company that do all the inspections of the county.	00:19:00
	And they were there early Monday morning.	00:19:03
	And they determined that.	00:19:06
	Dumping some heavy.	00:19:09
	Great great rap will help to cover.	00:19:11
	The bank and prevent further erosion.	00:19:15
	We think that we are dumping out.	00:19:18
	But we're still thinking about the brain that is going.	00:19:21
	Tomorrow.	00:19:25
	I will. I'll be monitoring that.	00:19:27
	To make sure that everything is.	00:19:30
	Doing fine.	00:19:32
	I don't think it's been nothing major is going to happen that way. We have it right now and but I'll keep posting you all about	00:19:33
	what the situation is, but.	00:19:37
	OK.	00:19:42
	Here's your change order.	00:19:43
	And just just you get you and the sheriff were there after the day have broken, not before the damn brook that goes.	00:19:46
	Not before. OK.	00:19:53
	All right. Thank you, Horatio.	00:19:57
	Continuing with new business building development director Nick Creevy.	00:20:00
	A few items for you this evening. The 1st is.	00:20:06
	Approval of the replat of sundown farms this.	00:20:11
	Plat #1357.	00:20:14
	This is a.	00:20:17
	Minor modification of this plat. Additional 3 lots.	00:20:19
	It was approved by the Planning Commission.	00:20:24
	And it is ready for your awesome group.	00:20:27
	All right. Any questions or discussion regarding the matter?	00:20:34
	We need to form a motion, are we?	00:20:44
	No, I think you guys usually just sign, OK.	00:20:46
	There's two of these, right?	00:21:05
	Another Yeah, we do have another major plat here.	00:21:08
	I meant, I meant on this. You only had two here, right?	00:21:11
	3 got it all right.	00:21:14
	Three within.	00:21:22
	Well, we're signing that one. I'll I have the Highlands Section 2 AI have a.	00:21:28
	Open agreement for your approval.	00:21:34
	And the plat #1573, we do have the performance bond.	00:21:36
	For this section.	00:21:41
	It was for.	00:21:48
	1,201,168.	00:22:13
	$1000 for the infrastructure improvements.	00:22:16
	So we do have all the requirements.	00:22:20
	Sorry, can you repeat that?	00:22:27
	So I need the development agreement approved.	00:22:28
	For this section of the subdivision.	00:22:32
	And then we have the plat for approval with it.	00:22:35
	We have received the performance bond for the infrastructure.	00:22:38
	Of 1,200,000 some I mentioned.	00:22:42
	For that work.	00:22:47
	OK, so you are seeking formal approval?	00:22:48
	Agreement. Yeah, Yes.	00:22:52
	I'll make a motion to approve the Highland Section 2A Development Agreement and Platt 1573.	00:22:54
	I'll second.	00:23:00
	Have a motion to second all in favor.	00:23:01
	Just give those to Jason.	00:23:05
	Right here.	00:23:11
	Is this the only one to sign?	00:23:13
	Or to us on the one below 2.	00:23:15
	Just this one.	00:23:17
	All right, so while we're doing that, you have your bead letters. Yes, we have the.	00:23:20
	Letter of support for.	00:23:26
	Charter submittal of for the lead application.	00:23:28
	This is to provide.	00:23:33
	Web services throughout the county.	00:23:35
	A few weeks ago, we did AT&T requesting a support letter for for their application. They're not asking for any funding.	00:23:38
	It's really that we support.	00:23:46
	Trying to provide.	00:23:48
	I have a draft letter here so I would ask that.	00:23:50
	You improve this and allow AL to sign it outside of the meeting.	00:23:55
	OK. I think we're familiar with that.	00:24:01
	Concept at this point by now I hope that they they can get their funding on it. So I'll look for a motion to approve allowance for	00:24:03
	me to sign that once we have a.	00:24:07
	Finalized copy.	00:24:12
	Yeah, someone.	00:24:13
	Second, emotions second.	00:24:15
	All in favor.	00:24:17
	And then I did want to make it a.	00:24:20
	Couple announcements, one for the old Vincennes Highlander point.	00:24:23
	Intersection improvement.	00:24:29
	Tribe or Rd.	00:24:31
	We have.	00:24:33
	Confirmed with the last utility that they will be.	00:24:34
	Moving their infrastructure out later this month.	00:24:37
	Expected February 20th.	00:24:41
	With that, we will be able to come.	00:24:44
	Immense construction of that project.	00:24:46
	We are anticipating the start of work.	00:24:48
	Beginning of March.	00:24:51
	So we will be closing that section of the road, we will be notifying the school and the local residents and businesses.	00:24:52
	Directly with the detour information.	00:25:01
	Additional closure information.	00:25:05
	We will be putting that on the website as well.	00:25:07
	Do you know?	00:25:10
	From what points that's going to be closed and for how long?	00:25:12
	I'd have to look at the construction schedule.	00:25:16
	I believe the last.	00:25:19
	Plan was to have it.	00:25:22
	Completed prior to the start of next year's school year, so.	00:25:24
	August, yeah, end of July would be the end of construction.	00:25:28
	Road closures.	00:25:33
	Between.	00:25:35
	Tuscany.	00:25:36
	It's a Duffy, but not not all at once.	00:25:38
	There may be sections.	00:25:43
	Open and close.	00:25:44
	During that period, OK.	00:25:47
	And then the last item I just wanted to give an update on the bridge.	00:25:52
	51 project in terms of the.	00:25:56
	Funding schedule that we have currently in place within.	00:25:58
	That we are still securing the final five parcels.	00:26:01
	Through eminent domain condemnation process which is.	00:26:07
	We are following the regulatory guidelines.	00:26:11
	For that, we hope to have that completed.	00:26:13
	No later than the end of March.	00:26:17
	That would keep us in on schedule to meet the September.	00:26:20
	10th letting date for the project.	00:26:26
	For our funding.	00:26:29
	For fiscal year 26.	00:26:31
	So start a construction would still be.	00:26:33
	Anticipated to be late this year.	00:26:36
	Next year.	00:26:39
	And I'll just add.	00:26:41
	Nick knows because I've been lighting him up on the phone that.	00:26:42
	We're working with officials in Washington and Indianapolis to try to.	00:26:45
	Speed that up, but.	00:26:49
	Even if even if it starts tomorrow, we're still looking at.	00:26:52
	A gap there, but I'm hopeful that we can maybe move it up a little bit.	00:26:56
	I mean, you're talking about with two pretty large bureaucracies who are controlling the purse strings on this. I get that.	00:27:01
	But.	00:27:07
	We have, I think we've made a little bit.	00:27:08
	They know of the problem, that's for sure. At this point in time, I agree. And I think it may be reasonable that we may be able to	00:27:11
	move it up several months.	00:27:15
	If things go.	00:27:20
	Well, for us.	00:27:22
	And construction for this is still anticipated to be a two year project. So it will still be some time before that bridge is fully	00:27:25
	operational, the new bridge.	00:27:30
	All right, well, keep pushing.	00:27:35
	Yeah. Thank you.	00:27:38
	All right, County Attorney.	00:27:40
	Is Christy Fox representing Fox Law Office?	00:27:43
	That's a change this month.	00:27:47
	OK, so the first thing I have there is the OPC Pest Control Service agreement for the.	00:27:48
	I won't refer to it as Chase Building, 120 W Spring Street, the new Foley County building on Spring Street.	00:27:54
	I reviewed that, no concerns there. That's a continuation of services for that building.	00:28:00
	OK, need a motion, right?	00:28:07
	Yes, yes. Make a motion to accept OPC Pest Control Service Agreement.	00:28:09
	Second emotion is second all in favor. Aye aye.	00:28:13
	OK. The second thing I have, there's a contract for attorney services from the coroner's office. They presented that through the	00:28:18
	the statute that requires that to go through you all for review and approval.	00:28:23
	It is in line, has all the language necessary, so I would.	00:28:28
	Unless you have any questions, recommend approval and allow Mr. Tomlin to sign that.	00:28:33
	All right. Any questions regarding that?	00:28:39
	Not at all. Look for a motion.	00:28:42
	To make a motion to accept.	00:28:45
	I'll second it in motion to second all in favor.	00:28:47
	Aye, aye.	00:28:50
	OK, the last thing I have.	00:28:52
	Is a resolution for the approval of a supplement to the consulting agreement related to the Clark Floyd Landfill litigation?	00:28:54
	It's it's a a consultant that has been hired in that litigation.	00:29:02
	For Clark and Floyd County.	00:29:07
	So that resolution, I do not have that number. I apologize. We can allow Susanna to fill that in when she is back.	00:29:09
	But it's FCR 2025 and then whatever resolution number we are on.	00:29:16
	Make a motion to accept.	00:29:23
	I'll second it.	00:29:25
	Motion a second. All in favor.	00:29:26
	Aye, aye. And I do have a copy of that signature. I'm sorry because I'm not not sure if that was in the packet. That's all I have.	00:29:29
	All right, Next is new business listed under me regarding the petition to amend the Indiana statutes pertaining to a county's	00:29:36
	abilities to assess impact fees.	00:29:41
	I I think this.	00:29:47
	Is an important issue that has kind of developed as part of our ongoing committee on impact fees.	00:29:49
	One of its members.	00:29:57
	Mr. Dale.	00:29:58
	Has prepared this and would like participation, so if you have time after the meeting to hang around and consider signing this.	00:30:01
	I'm going to be signing it after the meeting as a.	00:30:08
	And my role as a.	00:30:11
	Just a citizen.	00:30:13
	So.	00:30:14
	But trying to.	00:30:17
	Have the state.	00:30:19
	Legislature look at expanding.	00:30:20
	The scope of impact fees Indiana is fairly limited with regards to that.	00:30:24
	Mister Man, do you want to come and speak to the?	00:30:28
	Topic.	00:30:32
	Dale man guards down.	00:30:37
	We've been calling for impact fee for years.	00:30:39
	Nobody would look at it and when we first started we were told we couldn't do it.	00:30:42
	Well, we could. It's in 941994. That's when the state allowed.	00:30:47
	But the state only allows impact fees for infrastructure.	00:30:51
	Parks in drainage.	00:30:56
	And it can only stay in one area where the impact is implemented.	00:30:58
	That limits very much and everybody, everybody's hauling for more taxes, more tax money, tax increases.	00:31:03
	And the reason all this main increase is wanting because of growth.	00:31:09
	And you're asking the old people?	00:31:14
	To pay for all these tax increases, this is one way we'll have the money up front.	00:31:16
	If we can get the state to do it for services, services is what cost?	00:31:21
	And we can't get any impact fees for service.	00:31:26
	In this petition is asking for service.	00:31:29
	Schools fire safety is asking for all of it.	00:31:31
	But the state of Indiana is one of the only states that limits us.	00:31:36
	To just roads.	00:31:39
	Drainage in parks.	00:31:41
	And I'm asking this is a.	00:31:42
	Mr. Moore wrote this up is pretty legal document.	00:31:44
	That we want to go to the state, our state reps.	00:31:47
	All of them if we can, because we can't be the only community that's going through this.	00:31:50
	We can't.	00:31:54
	And you, everybody knows what we're going through is our tax increases.	00:31:56
	This would deeply help and I really urge people to sign it.	00:31:59
	And I really urge the leadership of this county to push it.	00:32:03
	Because you guys know the people up north.	00:32:06
	Yeah, I do have a question.	00:32:11
	So a, do you have a legislator that you're working with to author that?	00:32:13
	We I've left it up, Mr. Kneeler, we talked about it. I've left it up before. I presented this to anybody and he asked for the	00:32:19
	letter.	00:32:23
	This is a petition.	00:32:27
	And you guys know them all?	00:32:29
	You guys pretty much know our, let's say our reps.	00:32:31
	Our Senators.	00:32:34
	And if you all could present it to him.	00:32:35
	Would be held a lot more power than my little groups can.	00:32:38
	I did tell Mister Mann that once he has signatures.	00:32:42
	I'll be happy to.	00:32:44
	Present a copy of it to each of the members of the state legislature that I know.	00:32:46
	And I'll do that.	00:32:51
	Hopefully this will solve a lot if we'd had it.	00:32:53
	We would have had it.	00:32:56
	In 94.	00:32:57
	With the end limits that we have, we wouldn't be in their shape we are now.	00:33:00
	And any more questions?	00:33:04
	You have that on hand for folks to sign? I do have. I have two or three copies with them. OK.	00:33:06
	I don't have a question, but I will say that this is something you and I have talked about before at length.	00:33:11
	I agree with you 100% this should have been done a long time ago, but you know, the laws are what the laws are. Hopefully we can	00:33:16
	get that changed.	00:33:19
	Additionally, another thing I hope they can get changed Is that to my fringe?	00:33:23
	That causes his problems. That's what causes his problems as well, so.	00:33:27
	That's for a battle for another day. But.	00:33:31
	I agree with you, but if we could get them, if we could, if we could get it for services.	00:33:34
	Roads and services would be a whole lot.	00:33:38
	But the services are where our cost is and we can't touch it.	00:33:41
	With impact base.	00:33:44
	Schools and Schools is involved in this too.	00:33:45
	If we can get to schools involved, I've talked to.	00:33:48
	President. School Board.	00:33:50
	They're worth thinking about it.	00:33:53
	Get everybody involved and it's killing us.	00:33:55
	OK. Any more questions?	00:33:59
	No Hang around afterwards and.	00:34:01
	Appreciate it. Yeah, if somebody wants to take on a page for to get signatures, I'm sure they'll appreciate that.	00:34:03
	Do we have any public comment from any government?	00:34:09
	Any public comment?	00:34:15
	Oh well, there you go. Sorry, you were.	00:34:17
	I I'd just like to say.	00:34:22
	I agree with.	00:34:24
	Mr. Mann.	00:34:25
	Endeavor.	00:34:27
	I'm prepared to sign Mr. Mann.	00:34:29
	So just from where I sit and then.	00:34:32
	Kind of frivolous, but.	00:34:34
	Even with bridges and.	00:34:36
	Everything we got going on for the account, I'm still proud of that.	00:34:38
	And I think it's gonna be exciting times.	00:34:42
	Going forward in the next three to five years.	00:34:45
	I think our county could be a lot better than it has been.	00:34:48
	Hopefully we'll be more proud to live in Floyd County at that time than we are now.	00:34:51
	All right.	00:34:56
	Any other government officials?	00:34:58
	All right, public comments will be public.	00:35:00
	Anyone who'd like to speak to any item would.	00:35:03
	Can we limit that to three minutes tonight?	00:35:06
	All right, seeing no one tonight on that.	00:35:09
	Have board appointments? We've already done committee reports.	00:35:13
	Jason, any activity you'd like to discuss this week?	00:35:17
	Well, I did attend my first.	00:35:20
	Kipped a meeting.	00:35:23
	Via the Internet, it's gonna take a while to get used to that. That's a little bit new of a new realm for me, so I'm looking	00:35:25
	forward to learning a new role and scheduled to go over and.	00:35:30
	Meet with them one day here in the next couple weeks.	00:35:35
	And talk to them a little bit more.	00:35:38
	To the road workers contract, we're still.	00:35:41
	Waiting to hear back from from.	00:35:44
	Roadway so.	00:35:46
	OK, nothing new there.	00:35:48
	Right, the only thing that I've done recently other than take care of all my.	00:35:51
	Jobs is I did go to a.	00:35:56
	County Council workshop.	00:35:59
	Where the topic was EMS.	00:36:01
	And that was interesting to hear. There are different points of view.	00:36:04
	So stay tuned for that. I'm sure it'll be coming our way.	00:36:09
	All right, I.	00:36:13
	I had a couple of administrative meetings on the 23rd and the 30th met with.	00:36:15
	Mac on that change order on the 23rd for new extension, meaning the 27th.	00:36:19
	And a pretty lengthy discussion with Matt Dennison, the head of our Parks Department and.	00:36:25
	We really need public input.	00:36:31
	Coming up, we're going to have.	00:36:34
	Our consultants reports with regards to what they're going to be recommending for the Bob Lane Park as well as the CMP Community	00:36:36
	Park, and so look for those announcements when they come out.	00:36:41
	We had meetings for.	00:36:47
	The courthouse and the administrative building.	00:36:49
	Projects.	00:36:53
	We got a Floyd County Legacy Foundation forming meeting.	00:36:54
	And then the bridge has kept us kind of busy the last few days, so.	00:36:58
	Felons been burning up the lines so.	00:37:03
	Again, stabilization efforts on that are ongoing and I think they're they're bearing some fruit and, and.	00:37:07
	And we'll get a plan to see whether or not.	00:37:13
	We can economically get the bridge reopened.	00:37:15
	While we're pushing forward with the new bridge built so.	00:37:19
	That's all I had.	00:37:22
	I need approval of the Commissioners meeting minutes for January 21, 2024, so moved.	00:37:25
	Second, all in favor?	00:37:30
	Aye, aye. And they'll need approval of payroll and claims.	00:37:33
	Motion to approve.	00:37:37
	Second all in favor Aye. And our next Commissioners meeting will be Tuesday, February 18th, 2025.	00:37:39
	At 6:00 PM.	00:37:47
	Any closing comments?	00:37:48
	I do. You have do too, don't you, Frank? You want to go first? You want me to?	00:37:51
	No, I don't mind. Oh, I thought you said you had some. Yeah, I'll, I'll go ahead and go.	00:37:55
	So since I became county commissioner, I've been working diligently on improving and enhancing many aspects of our emergency	00:38:00
	services.	00:38:03
	My only goal in doing so is to ensure that when people are in this community are most likely having the worst day of their life.	00:38:08
	That the assistance that we provide you is highly trained, highly equipped and operationally ready to solve your problem.	00:38:14
	Two of the solutions that I have been working on are bringing our fire departments together and providing a stable and effective	00:38:21
	emergency medical system.	00:38:24
	These solutions are not just a pipe dream developed on a whim.	00:38:29
	These are systems in which I've collected applicable data and I have peer reviewed by outside and unbiased sources.	00:38:32
	Geographically, Floyd County is the second smallest county in Indiana.	00:38:39
	We have a total of 5 townships and three County Fire departments currently protecting.	00:38:44
	These jurisdictions currently Highlander Fire Protection District covers Greenville and Lafayette townships.	00:38:48
	Georgetown Fire Protection District covers Georgetown Township as well as contractual services to Franklin Township.	00:38:54
	And New Albany Township Fire Protection District provides Fire Protection to the unincorporated portions of New Albany.	00:39:00
	Township not including the City of New Albany.	00:39:05
	Historically there have been attempts in the past to combine these service I myself served.	00:39:09
	Commissioner Kamer as his subject matter expert in the last attempt.	00:39:14
	My recommendation was not to proceed with the county wide service at the time.	00:39:18
	Was based upon the application in which it was being done and not the theory that combining these services was a bad thing.	00:39:23
	During these discussions, it was determined that the goal of creating the system was to solely serve as a mechanism to create a	00:39:29
	county ambulance service.	00:39:33
	However, I quickly discovered there was critical terminology and inappropriately applied.	00:39:37
	For example, the desire to have personnel cross trained.	00:39:42
	That typically means that holding both fire and EMS certifications and is a common practice in most fire departments.	00:39:46
	However, what was really being discussed was the utilization of split companies.	00:39:52
	This would essentially place an ambulance in the same station as a fire apparatus and when a fire call came out.	00:39:57
	The crew would take a fire truck and when a medical call came out they would take the ambulance.	00:40:02
	To the untrained eye, one would say.	00:40:07
	Well, that sounds like a very efficient way.	00:40:09
	To provide both of their services. However, the reality is your community. You leave your community extremely vulnerable.	00:40:12
	And it puts your emergency responders in a very dangerous situation.	00:40:18
	Additionally, there was number supporting information to this transition.	00:40:22
	No fiscal analysis, no GIS information, and what was the clear indication of the lack of understanding of national standards and	00:40:25
	best practices by some of the participants?	00:40:29
	My recommendation was not to proceed.	00:40:34
	Today, our climate is much different.	00:40:37
	Than it was during our last discussion.	00:40:39
	We now have a better understanding of the geographical and staffing challenges. We also have fiscal information to understand the	00:40:41
	costs.	00:40:44
	It is clear that forming 1 fire district for Floyd County would likely not meet the long term needs of our county.	00:40:48
	However, a fire territory would.	00:40:54
	What makes the territory different?	00:40:57
	Than a district it is that it's more of a marriage than it is a merger.	00:40:59
	This allows already established districts and municipalities to pull their resources together and form 1 cohesive unit.	00:41:03
	This will streamline command staff policies, procedures, hiring practices, training, and even equipment.	00:41:10
	This also allows the rape.	00:41:17
	To fund these services to be equal.	00:41:19
	Amongst all the participants.	00:41:21
	Essentially, you will be paying no more.	00:41:24
	Or nor less than your neighbors jurisdictions.	00:41:26
	It is a much easier and cleaner way to provide these essential services to everyone in our county instead of having three	00:41:29
	different departments.	00:41:32
	With three different command Staffs, three different hiring standards, 3 different training regiments, and the long list of other	00:41:36
	redundancies that goes on and on and on.	00:41:41
	It is my hope that we can get all of our jurisdictions under a territory, and that includes Highlander and Franklin townships.	00:41:46
	Currently, Highlander has accumulated $2.3 million worth of debt.	00:41:52
	And that in itself excludes them from being part of the territory at this time.	00:41:57
	The commissioners have yet determined what we if we were going to even intervene with Franklin Township. However, I have voiced my	00:42:01
	concerns very clearly to my peers and we are monitoring the situation.	00:42:06
	Regarding EMS, I am one of three commissioners.	00:42:12
	We formed an EMS Advisory committee to determine that our community's needs from our EMS system.	00:42:15
	And we then formed an EMS task force to determine how those services would be delivered.	00:42:21
	Their conclusion of the task force was that the departments could not afford to take home.	00:42:26
	As they were struggling to stay afloat with their current service level.	00:42:31
	Therefore, since the need did obviously exist, those members felt a standalone county wide service would be the best option.	00:42:35
	This system would provide top of the line equipment utilizing some of the most advanced protocols and since that system would have	00:42:43
	a dedicated funding mechanism.	00:42:47
	We would be able to bill your insurance and whatever remained would.	00:42:51
	Be written off if you're a Floyd County.	00:42:54
	To me, that was a clear return on investment considering in 2024 there were 3546 calls for emergency medical services in Floyd	00:42:56
	County.	00:43:01
	The average amount the insurance company pays for ambulance service is between 425 and $450.	00:43:05
	Typically leaving the patient with the remaining balance of between 1000 and $2500 to be paid out of pocket.	00:43:12
	This last portion, I'm going to say something. To be quite honest, I don't think I should have to.	00:43:20
	But I'm going to.	00:43:24
	There is a small group of people who believe I am developing these services because I in some way am looking to create myself a	00:43:26
	job or enrich myself.	00:43:30
	I don't need a job.	00:43:35
	I have a job.	00:43:36
	I've been at that job for 25 years and I plan to be there at least seven more before I retire.	00:43:37
	I can't even collect my pension, I'm too young.	00:43:43
	It's nonsense.	00:43:46
	Applying on spending remind remaining days of my career.	00:43:49
	The organization which I started.	00:43:52
	And that has never changed.	00:43:54
	So I say this loud and clear for the record.	00:43:56
	I will not be creating myself a job.	00:43:59
	Or have any interest in being a Chief Officer or any employee of any capacity for any Floyd County Fire or EMS organization.	00:44:02
	So let's just put that nonsense to rest.	00:44:09
	The systems I develop are to save lives.	00:44:11
	And for no reason more.	00:44:14
	And that's all I have to say.	00:44:16
	Thank you.	00:44:19
	Very much.	00:44:20
	Frank.	00:44:23
	You're here.	00:44:24
	All right. My only closing comment. I thank everybody for being here.	00:44:28
	Thank our first responders and engineers for.	00:44:34
	I had energetic response to our bridge issue on Sunday.	00:44:37
	I found that.	00:44:42
	Bridge.	00:44:45
	Road issues are kind of like medical issues. They tend to happen on Sundays and you're getting ready to go on vacation, right? So	00:44:47
	that seems to what's happening.	00:44:50
	We still have.	00:44:54
	Anywhere between 3:00 and 4:00.	00:44:57
	Public meetings on the fire. There's there's two more public hearings and I do encourage everyone to come. We have gone out of our	00:44:59
	way to make these as transparent as possible.	00:45:05
	Even by giving the.	00:45:11
	The people access to Pine View.	00:45:13
	Our streaming system and even have these recorded so anybody can watch them at anytime they feel necessary.	00:45:16
	So yes, there will be two more hearings and then there will be a vote.	00:45:23
	On whether they accept the Tory of territory or not.	00:45:27
	So I encourage everyone likewise to attend.	00:45:30
	Very informative.	00:45:34
	And lots of detail.	00:45:35
	And lots of handouts that you could take home with you and go over.	00:45:38
	So.	00:45:41
	With that, I'll look for a motion to.	00:45:43
	To adjourn.	00:45:45
	So moved.	00:45:46
	2nd.	00:45:47