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No, that's your thank you. Miss Budget approval meeting to order. Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. | 00:00:00 | |
Budget stripped of the United States of America. | 00:00:07 | |
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:11 | |
Let the record show we have a full quorum. Everyone's present tonight. | 00:00:23 | |
Does anyone from Solid waste here? | 00:00:30 | |
Budget for solid waste did not change between now and budget hearings. I can tell you it is a balanced budget. | 00:00:56 | |
Gateway accepted it just fine as far as the prep work goes. So currently they're 2025 budget is $515,976. | 00:01:06 | |
CET. | 00:01:22 | |
Any questions for solid waste? Are there specific words that we need to use to adopt these budgets? | 00:01:23 | |
Just a motion to approve. The only the only caveat with budget adoption is that it does have to be a super majority. | 00:01:31 | |
I'm asking are there certain words OK. | 00:01:38 | |
And we can do them as a whole as well. | 00:01:41 | |
I'll make a motion to approve Silent Waste 1A. | 00:01:44 | |
Thank you. Have a motion a second for approval solid waste budget for 2025, any discussion? | 00:01:48 | |
All in favor say aye. Any opposed? | 00:01:56 | |
Carries Georgetown Fire. | 00:01:59 | |
Good evening, Kevin Imhoff on behalf of Georgetown Fire. This is the budget that we submitted in in Gateway. | 00:02:11 | |
The Georgetown Fire has zero debt. We saved our community wasted money on interest payments in the past. | 00:02:19 | |
The board chairman, Michael Moody cannot be here tonight. He's a volunteer as as a conflict from a work related perspective. He | 00:02:26 | |
has sent me with a prepared statement that I'm happy to distribute to you all. I. | 00:02:32 | |
I would ask that the Council approve the budget. | 00:02:40 | |
The fire district has worked with Baker Tilly as an advisor for years. | 00:02:45 | |
We're adding two full time firefighters to assist with coverage given increased demand on account of Franklin Township, there are | 00:02:51 | |
no capital projects or anything else out of the ordinary associated with the budget. It is a deficit spending budget, but there | 00:02:57 | |
are sufficient cash reserves that the Township has acquired for the past years to pay for. | 00:03:04 | |
If you have any other questions. | 00:03:12 | |
Thank you. | 00:03:14 | |
I do have one question. Is this the same rate as last year? | 00:03:16 | |
A 2.964. | 00:03:21 | |
I will defer to one of our representatives here that has a better hand on the financial experience. | 00:03:24 | |
Jim Mayfield on the financial officer for the fire District. I believe it's the same rate that I would have to double check. | 00:03:43 | |
I make a motion to approve the Georgetown Fire District budget. | 00:03:57 | |
Dang it. | 00:04:04 | |
Motion is second for Georgetown. | 00:04:05 | |
Budget approval? Any further discussion? | 00:04:08 | |
Do you know how long you could operate under a deficit before? | 00:04:11 | |
For more increased revenue or cuts are made. | 00:04:16 | |
I said it the initial hearing. I know there are. | 00:04:22 | |
Several avenues being explored. | 00:04:26 | |
But I can't speak on behalf of those for this from the fire board to determine. | 00:04:29 | |
That's gonna be a question that would need to be brought to the fire board. | 00:04:33 | |
I understand. | 00:04:38 | |
Understood. But this, this in year 2025, you do have the cash reserves for this budget. OK, thank you. | 00:04:42 | |
Any further discussion? | 00:04:50 | |
All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? | 00:04:53 | |
That carries. Thank you. Thank you. You want me to count your fire? | 00:04:57 | |
Motion to approve. | 00:05:05 | |
1C New Albany Township Fire District. | 00:05:08 | |
Budget I have a motion and 2nd for nominee Township fire any discussion? | 00:05:12 | |
Seeing none all in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? | 00:05:21 | |
That carries. | 00:05:25 | |
Islander Fire. | 00:05:28 | |
Motion to approve. | 00:05:34 | |
Must approve 1D highlighter fire. | 00:05:37 | |
Budget. | 00:05:41 | |
For 2025. | 00:05:43 | |
I have a motion and a second for Highlander Fire District. Any discussion? | 00:05:45 | |
Seeing none all in favor say aye. Any opposed? | 00:05:52 | |
That carries. | 00:05:56 | |
We are on to item. | 00:05:59 | |
Lloyd County Budget. | 00:06:01 | |
We will be approving this budget with the understanding that there are a couple items that we will have to clean up in January, 1 | 00:06:07 | |
being. | 00:06:11 | |
Road department contract and the second being building authority. | 00:06:17 | |
Budget. | 00:06:23 | |
Still being. | 00:06:26 | |
Not syncing correctly with what commissioners have. | 00:06:28 | |
Submitted SO. | 00:06:32 | |
At this time, the highway department is still under negotiations for their potential. | 00:06:39 | |
Pull it down. | 00:06:46 | |
Better, Yeah. OK. Thank you. | 00:06:50 | |
The Highway department is still under negotiations for their 2025 salary increase. It has not been approved at this time. Any | 00:06:54 | |
increase as far as budget after the original advertised amount is not something that can really be addressed. So an additional | 00:07:01 | |
appropriation will have to happen at the first council meeting of January once an agreement is reached, as well as an updated | 00:07:08 | |
salary ordinance at that time to reflect the new agreements between. | 00:07:15 | |
The union and the county. | 00:07:23 | |
So a caveat needs to be made concerning the budgets that there are going to be some adjustments made come January concerning those | 00:07:26 | |
salaries. Additionally, I know that the. | 00:07:31 | |
The governing bodies weren't quite able to sync up the potential double budgeting of security costs as well as the potential under | 00:07:38 | |
budgeting of the building authority. | 00:07:44 | |
Commitment itself. | 00:07:51 | |
So. | 00:07:53 | |
I have requested as a courtesy to the auditor's office due to the amount of work that's involved in the last minute changes at | 00:07:55 | |
budget adoption, that a caveat be added to your adoption vote this evening that that resolution take place between now and | 00:08:02 | |
December and then we can correct them in the January meeting so that everything is. | 00:08:10 | |
In minutes and in public meetings so that those adjustments do take place. | 00:08:18 | |
Which the adjustments don't exist right now and adoption is is happening at this point. So I would just ask that the wording be | 00:08:24 | |
included in an emotion made so that we can make sure that it's tracked and followed through minutes and that there is an | 00:08:31 | |
understanding that there will be a solution and it will be adjusted come January at the first meeting of the year. | 00:08:39 | |
Does anybody have any questions about those two things? | 00:08:49 | |
I have I have a question. Has the building authority contract been signed by the? | 00:08:53 | |
Commissioners. | 00:09:00 | |
I believe so. | 00:09:02 | |
I don't know if it has or not, to be perfectly honest. I don't have a copy of an updated contract for next year. So Aaron, do you | 00:09:08 | |
know if it's been signed? | 00:09:11 | |
The building authority budget, has it been approved by the commissioners because the lease is a long term lease that's not signed | 00:09:16 | |
every year? | 00:09:19 | |
The budget is was approved by the commissioners, but the two but the two bodies were still working together to find out if there | 00:09:23 | |
was double budgeting for building security. If I recall correctly, building security because the commissioners. | 00:09:28 | |
Yeah, their Police Department that they were paying, there's a couple, there's a couple things that are still. | 00:09:36 | |
Between the Council and Commissioners, that still needed to be worked out. | 00:09:43 | |
Once so. | 00:09:47 | |
Once the ad went to the state. | 00:09:49 | |
For the different categories as far as. | 00:09:51 | |
Our upcoming budget there's not really a way to adjust them once we've hit this point, and the resolutions and solutions between | 00:09:57 | |
the two bodies were not met in time for budget adoption. Which is why I recommended that a caveat be added to your adoption vote | 00:10:03 | |
in a public forum so that everyone is on the same page that these solutions still do need to be. | 00:10:10 | |
Rectified. | 00:10:19 | |
I'll make a motion to approve 2. | 00:10:23 | |
The Floyd County. | 00:10:25 | |
Budget adoption for both the Floyd County. | 00:10:29 | |
Budget and the Home Rule funds. | 00:10:34 | |
With the caveat that we. | 00:10:38 | |
We'll make some adjustments. | 00:10:43 | |
For the contract negotiations ongoing for the road department and also for the building authority. | 00:10:45 | |
Budget. | 00:10:55 | |
We have a motion and a second for Floyd County. | 00:10:59 | |
Item number 2, Floyd County budget and home rule funds. Any further discussion? | 00:11:03 | |
Is there a? Is it a form one or form 4 that we have to adopt with this? | 00:11:08 | |
OK. Do we have to include that in our motion? | 00:11:15 | |
Because in an ordinance of any sort. | 00:11:17 | |
It doesn't get assigned an ordinance number. | 00:11:20 | |
It's not required by the state. We have the county have an option to do so, but we've never done so. | 00:11:23 | |
I'd like to see it. Just table this vote for now. I mean, I we spent all this money on this benefit study. | 00:11:32 | |
And everyone's got to see the reports, the analysis of that, and we can save anywhere from 3/4 to $1,000,000 employee benefits, | 00:11:40 | |
not taking anything away from them, putting them in line with other counties throughout the state based on this study, and no ones | 00:11:46 | |
conceded anything. I think we should table this, turn this back to the commissioners and make them sign off on some of these cuts | 00:11:52 | |
to help offset some of these continued increases that we keep having. I mean, we've got all these increases here. We did all these | 00:11:58 | |
big. | 00:12:03 | |
Races two years ago and didn't look at the benefits and we saw how line those are now even after I got all these salary increases. | 00:12:10 | |
Then this year we give the prosecutors an additional increase on top of that. Then because we give the the prosecutors increases | 00:12:16 | |
we have to give to the public defenders that was well over $200,000. It's costing us, let alone all this extra benefits that got | 00:12:22 | |
put in with the sheriff's unions, even though I agree they need some raises, but there were some benefits put in there that nobody | 00:12:28 | |
else. | 00:12:34 | |
The county gets this deferred compensation. The county gets $17.00 per pay period now. Now they're going to get 100. Then we're | 00:12:40 | |
paying, what, $68,000 in uniforms? I mean, some of these fences can go back. | 00:12:47 | |
Can go back to. | 00:12:55 | |
To the Sheriff's Department itself, I mean, they got this commissary fund of $1.9 million. They can pick some of this stuff up. I | 00:12:57 | |
just don't know why we keep letting things grow and grow and grow. And that's here. We're talking about these taxes later, but | 00:13:03 | |
nobody wants to. We're not even talking about cuts. We're talking about putting freezes on things. I can't even get people to buy | 00:13:09 | |
into this. I mean, the taxpayers are here to hear this, to see this. They need to know this. | 00:13:14 | |
We have to have a budget adoption. | 00:13:27 | |
By the end of October, is that right? Yeah, the commissioners can still meet. They can still meet and still make some of these | 00:13:31 | |
concessions. | 00:13:35 | |
There's time. | 00:13:40 | |
And I don't disagree with a lot of what you're saying, Jim, but this? | 00:13:46 | |
That can still happen. | 00:13:51 | |
Even with this adoption that can still we're at a. | 00:13:53 | |
Basically like a Max level. | 00:13:57 | |
Here with his adopted budget, so. | 00:13:59 | |
Changes can still be made. | 00:14:02 | |
Its benefits are. | 00:14:07 | |
You know, you're correct, we got to get Commissioner buying in on any change to benefits. | 00:14:11 | |
Which we have asked for. | 00:14:17 | |
No response and no. | 00:14:20 | |
Yeah, we don't pass a budget date. We're going to have to respond. | 00:14:24 | |
We're going to get automatic cuts to these. They're not going to want that. Let's cut the things we know we can cut instead of | 00:14:27 | |
being mandated something. | 00:14:31 | |
Any further discussion on it? | 00:14:38 | |
I'll just have to add that. | 00:14:46 | |
Something has to give with with the the points that Jim made in the commissioners. We need to come together on that. | 00:14:50 | |
However, if we don't adopt A budget by the end of the month, they, my understanding is the state will freeze our budget and give | 00:14:57 | |
us what we got last year and we'll lose out on any, any additional revenue of any sort. So it would be a huge penalty to us if we | 00:15:04 | |
didn't at least get this across the finish line for this month. But I think that we do need to. | 00:15:11 | |
Continue that conversation, see if we can get the commissioners to move on some things. | 00:15:19 | |
Any further comments or discussion? | 00:15:25 | |
All in favor of item two say aye. All opposed aye. | 00:15:30 | |
That carries. | 00:15:35 | |
Item 3 is the 2025 salary ordinance. | 00:15:37 | |
Salary ordinance reflects the salaries that were held at. | 00:15:51 | |
That were presented at. | 00:15:56 | |
Budget hearings as well as are reflected in the budget that was just adopted. So it does match those numbers. Again, the caveat | 00:15:59 | |
being that we don't know what the union and county will come to as far as an agreement. So the highway workers hourly rate will be | 00:16:07 | |
adjusted after the first of the year once a resolution is found there. But everything else matches the budgets that we're just. | 00:16:15 | |
Adopted. | 00:16:23 | |
Motion to approve salary ordinance. | 00:16:28 | |
2025 with the. | 00:16:30 | |
Caveat that the road department. | 00:16:34 | |
Salaries will be updated at the 1st January 2025. | 00:16:37 | |
2nd, we have a motion and a second for the 2025 salary ordinance. Any discussion? I just was I'm wondering why the road department | 00:16:43 | |
contract hasn't been? | 00:16:48 | |
Finalized ship? Well, there were several reasons. | 00:16:54 | |
The uh. | 00:16:58 | |
The head of their union was in the hospital for several months, I believe. | 00:17:01 | |
And so we met late to start and. | 00:17:06 | |
They presented the. | 00:17:11 | |
Insurance. | 00:17:14 | |
Deal again to us and. | 00:17:16 | |
That comes out of Chicago, so we had to coordinate that. | 00:17:19 | |
And then just over the last few weeks, it's been trying to get people on the same. | 00:17:22 | |
Meeting date and time to where we finally just said. | 00:17:26 | |
This week it's not going to matter if we do it this week or not. So we we're meeting again on Monday to try to forget to a | 00:17:30 | |
resolution. But it's it's been a combination of different things. | 00:17:37 | |
It's also worth noting that it's not uncommon that we, you know, we all know that here, but it's more for the public to you know, | 00:17:50 | |
for the for any salary ordinance that we have in any given year to be amended throughout the year with any adjustments that are | 00:17:56 | |
made. So it's not we have ended quarterly and resubmit it to the state at the same time that it is amended. | 00:18:02 | |
So you constantly keep it in an up-to-date format. | 00:18:08 | |
Any further questions or discussion? | 00:18:15 | |
All in favor of the 2025 Sally ordinance say aye aye. Any opposed? | 00:18:19 | |
That carries. | 00:18:24 | |
All right. That I'll, I'll take a motion to adjourn this budget meeting that concludes all of our agenda items. So moved. Second, | 00:18:27 | |
we are adjourned. | 00:18:31 |
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No, that's your thank you. Miss Budget approval meeting to order. Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. | 00:00:00 | |
Budget stripped of the United States of America. | 00:00:07 | |
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:11 | |
Let the record show we have a full quorum. Everyone's present tonight. | 00:00:23 | |
Does anyone from Solid waste here? | 00:00:30 | |
Budget for solid waste did not change between now and budget hearings. I can tell you it is a balanced budget. | 00:00:56 | |
Gateway accepted it just fine as far as the prep work goes. So currently they're 2025 budget is $515,976. | 00:01:06 | |
CET. | 00:01:22 | |
Any questions for solid waste? Are there specific words that we need to use to adopt these budgets? | 00:01:23 | |
Just a motion to approve. The only the only caveat with budget adoption is that it does have to be a super majority. | 00:01:31 | |
I'm asking are there certain words OK. | 00:01:38 | |
And we can do them as a whole as well. | 00:01:41 | |
I'll make a motion to approve Silent Waste 1A. | 00:01:44 | |
Thank you. Have a motion a second for approval solid waste budget for 2025, any discussion? | 00:01:48 | |
All in favor say aye. Any opposed? | 00:01:56 | |
Carries Georgetown Fire. | 00:01:59 | |
Good evening, Kevin Imhoff on behalf of Georgetown Fire. This is the budget that we submitted in in Gateway. | 00:02:11 | |
The Georgetown Fire has zero debt. We saved our community wasted money on interest payments in the past. | 00:02:19 | |
The board chairman, Michael Moody cannot be here tonight. He's a volunteer as as a conflict from a work related perspective. He | 00:02:26 | |
has sent me with a prepared statement that I'm happy to distribute to you all. I. | 00:02:32 | |
I would ask that the Council approve the budget. | 00:02:40 | |
The fire district has worked with Baker Tilly as an advisor for years. | 00:02:45 | |
We're adding two full time firefighters to assist with coverage given increased demand on account of Franklin Township, there are | 00:02:51 | |
no capital projects or anything else out of the ordinary associated with the budget. It is a deficit spending budget, but there | 00:02:57 | |
are sufficient cash reserves that the Township has acquired for the past years to pay for. | 00:03:04 | |
If you have any other questions. | 00:03:12 | |
Thank you. | 00:03:14 | |
I do have one question. Is this the same rate as last year? | 00:03:16 | |
A 2.964. | 00:03:21 | |
I will defer to one of our representatives here that has a better hand on the financial experience. | 00:03:24 | |
Jim Mayfield on the financial officer for the fire District. I believe it's the same rate that I would have to double check. | 00:03:43 | |
I make a motion to approve the Georgetown Fire District budget. | 00:03:57 | |
Dang it. | 00:04:04 | |
Motion is second for Georgetown. | 00:04:05 | |
Budget approval? Any further discussion? | 00:04:08 | |
Do you know how long you could operate under a deficit before? | 00:04:11 | |
For more increased revenue or cuts are made. | 00:04:16 | |
I said it the initial hearing. I know there are. | 00:04:22 | |
Several avenues being explored. | 00:04:26 | |
But I can't speak on behalf of those for this from the fire board to determine. | 00:04:29 | |
That's gonna be a question that would need to be brought to the fire board. | 00:04:33 | |
I understand. | 00:04:38 | |
Understood. But this, this in year 2025, you do have the cash reserves for this budget. OK, thank you. | 00:04:42 | |
Any further discussion? | 00:04:50 | |
All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? | 00:04:53 | |
That carries. Thank you. Thank you. You want me to count your fire? | 00:04:57 | |
Motion to approve. | 00:05:05 | |
1C New Albany Township Fire District. | 00:05:08 | |
Budget I have a motion and 2nd for nominee Township fire any discussion? | 00:05:12 | |
Seeing none all in favor say aye aye. Any opposed? | 00:05:21 | |
That carries. | 00:05:25 | |
Islander Fire. | 00:05:28 | |
Motion to approve. | 00:05:34 | |
Must approve 1D highlighter fire. | 00:05:37 | |
Budget. | 00:05:41 | |
For 2025. | 00:05:43 | |
I have a motion and a second for Highlander Fire District. Any discussion? | 00:05:45 | |
Seeing none all in favor say aye. Any opposed? | 00:05:52 | |
That carries. | 00:05:56 | |
We are on to item. | 00:05:59 | |
Lloyd County Budget. | 00:06:01 | |
We will be approving this budget with the understanding that there are a couple items that we will have to clean up in January, 1 | 00:06:07 | |
being. | 00:06:11 | |
Road department contract and the second being building authority. | 00:06:17 | |
Budget. | 00:06:23 | |
Still being. | 00:06:26 | |
Not syncing correctly with what commissioners have. | 00:06:28 | |
Submitted SO. | 00:06:32 | |
At this time, the highway department is still under negotiations for their potential. | 00:06:39 | |
Pull it down. | 00:06:46 | |
Better, Yeah. OK. Thank you. | 00:06:50 | |
The Highway department is still under negotiations for their 2025 salary increase. It has not been approved at this time. Any | 00:06:54 | |
increase as far as budget after the original advertised amount is not something that can really be addressed. So an additional | 00:07:01 | |
appropriation will have to happen at the first council meeting of January once an agreement is reached, as well as an updated | 00:07:08 | |
salary ordinance at that time to reflect the new agreements between. | 00:07:15 | |
The union and the county. | 00:07:23 | |
So a caveat needs to be made concerning the budgets that there are going to be some adjustments made come January concerning those | 00:07:26 | |
salaries. Additionally, I know that the. | 00:07:31 | |
The governing bodies weren't quite able to sync up the potential double budgeting of security costs as well as the potential under | 00:07:38 | |
budgeting of the building authority. | 00:07:44 | |
Commitment itself. | 00:07:51 | |
So. | 00:07:53 | |
I have requested as a courtesy to the auditor's office due to the amount of work that's involved in the last minute changes at | 00:07:55 | |
budget adoption, that a caveat be added to your adoption vote this evening that that resolution take place between now and | 00:08:02 | |
December and then we can correct them in the January meeting so that everything is. | 00:08:10 | |
In minutes and in public meetings so that those adjustments do take place. | 00:08:18 | |
Which the adjustments don't exist right now and adoption is is happening at this point. So I would just ask that the wording be | 00:08:24 | |
included in an emotion made so that we can make sure that it's tracked and followed through minutes and that there is an | 00:08:31 | |
understanding that there will be a solution and it will be adjusted come January at the first meeting of the year. | 00:08:39 | |
Does anybody have any questions about those two things? | 00:08:49 | |
I have I have a question. Has the building authority contract been signed by the? | 00:08:53 | |
Commissioners. | 00:09:00 | |
I believe so. | 00:09:02 | |
I don't know if it has or not, to be perfectly honest. I don't have a copy of an updated contract for next year. So Aaron, do you | 00:09:08 | |
know if it's been signed? | 00:09:11 | |
The building authority budget, has it been approved by the commissioners because the lease is a long term lease that's not signed | 00:09:16 | |
every year? | 00:09:19 | |
The budget is was approved by the commissioners, but the two but the two bodies were still working together to find out if there | 00:09:23 | |
was double budgeting for building security. If I recall correctly, building security because the commissioners. | 00:09:28 | |
Yeah, their Police Department that they were paying, there's a couple, there's a couple things that are still. | 00:09:36 | |
Between the Council and Commissioners, that still needed to be worked out. | 00:09:43 | |
Once so. | 00:09:47 | |
Once the ad went to the state. | 00:09:49 | |
For the different categories as far as. | 00:09:51 | |
Our upcoming budget there's not really a way to adjust them once we've hit this point, and the resolutions and solutions between | 00:09:57 | |
the two bodies were not met in time for budget adoption. Which is why I recommended that a caveat be added to your adoption vote | 00:10:03 | |
in a public forum so that everyone is on the same page that these solutions still do need to be. | 00:10:10 | |
Rectified. | 00:10:19 | |
I'll make a motion to approve 2. | 00:10:23 | |
The Floyd County. | 00:10:25 | |
Budget adoption for both the Floyd County. | 00:10:29 | |
Budget and the Home Rule funds. | 00:10:34 | |
With the caveat that we. | 00:10:38 | |
We'll make some adjustments. | 00:10:43 | |
For the contract negotiations ongoing for the road department and also for the building authority. | 00:10:45 | |
Budget. | 00:10:55 | |
We have a motion and a second for Floyd County. | 00:10:59 | |
Item number 2, Floyd County budget and home rule funds. Any further discussion? | 00:11:03 | |
Is there a? Is it a form one or form 4 that we have to adopt with this? | 00:11:08 | |
OK. Do we have to include that in our motion? | 00:11:15 | |
Because in an ordinance of any sort. | 00:11:17 | |
It doesn't get assigned an ordinance number. | 00:11:20 | |
It's not required by the state. We have the county have an option to do so, but we've never done so. | 00:11:23 | |
I'd like to see it. Just table this vote for now. I mean, I we spent all this money on this benefit study. | 00:11:32 | |
And everyone's got to see the reports, the analysis of that, and we can save anywhere from 3/4 to $1,000,000 employee benefits, | 00:11:40 | |
not taking anything away from them, putting them in line with other counties throughout the state based on this study, and no ones | 00:11:46 | |
conceded anything. I think we should table this, turn this back to the commissioners and make them sign off on some of these cuts | 00:11:52 | |
to help offset some of these continued increases that we keep having. I mean, we've got all these increases here. We did all these | 00:11:58 | |
big. | 00:12:03 | |
Races two years ago and didn't look at the benefits and we saw how line those are now even after I got all these salary increases. | 00:12:10 | |
Then this year we give the prosecutors an additional increase on top of that. Then because we give the the prosecutors increases | 00:12:16 | |
we have to give to the public defenders that was well over $200,000. It's costing us, let alone all this extra benefits that got | 00:12:22 | |
put in with the sheriff's unions, even though I agree they need some raises, but there were some benefits put in there that nobody | 00:12:28 | |
else. | 00:12:34 | |
The county gets this deferred compensation. The county gets $17.00 per pay period now. Now they're going to get 100. Then we're | 00:12:40 | |
paying, what, $68,000 in uniforms? I mean, some of these fences can go back. | 00:12:47 | |
Can go back to. | 00:12:55 | |
To the Sheriff's Department itself, I mean, they got this commissary fund of $1.9 million. They can pick some of this stuff up. I | 00:12:57 | |
just don't know why we keep letting things grow and grow and grow. And that's here. We're talking about these taxes later, but | 00:13:03 | |
nobody wants to. We're not even talking about cuts. We're talking about putting freezes on things. I can't even get people to buy | 00:13:09 | |
into this. I mean, the taxpayers are here to hear this, to see this. They need to know this. | 00:13:14 | |
We have to have a budget adoption. | 00:13:27 | |
By the end of October, is that right? Yeah, the commissioners can still meet. They can still meet and still make some of these | 00:13:31 | |
concessions. | 00:13:35 | |
There's time. | 00:13:40 | |
And I don't disagree with a lot of what you're saying, Jim, but this? | 00:13:46 | |
That can still happen. | 00:13:51 | |
Even with this adoption that can still we're at a. | 00:13:53 | |
Basically like a Max level. | 00:13:57 | |
Here with his adopted budget, so. | 00:13:59 | |
Changes can still be made. | 00:14:02 | |
Its benefits are. | 00:14:07 | |
You know, you're correct, we got to get Commissioner buying in on any change to benefits. | 00:14:11 | |
Which we have asked for. | 00:14:17 | |
No response and no. | 00:14:20 | |
Yeah, we don't pass a budget date. We're going to have to respond. | 00:14:24 | |
We're going to get automatic cuts to these. They're not going to want that. Let's cut the things we know we can cut instead of | 00:14:27 | |
being mandated something. | 00:14:31 | |
Any further discussion on it? | 00:14:38 | |
I'll just have to add that. | 00:14:46 | |
Something has to give with with the the points that Jim made in the commissioners. We need to come together on that. | 00:14:50 | |
However, if we don't adopt A budget by the end of the month, they, my understanding is the state will freeze our budget and give | 00:14:57 | |
us what we got last year and we'll lose out on any, any additional revenue of any sort. So it would be a huge penalty to us if we | 00:15:04 | |
didn't at least get this across the finish line for this month. But I think that we do need to. | 00:15:11 | |
Continue that conversation, see if we can get the commissioners to move on some things. | 00:15:19 | |
Any further comments or discussion? | 00:15:25 | |
All in favor of item two say aye. All opposed aye. | 00:15:30 | |
That carries. | 00:15:35 | |
Item 3 is the 2025 salary ordinance. | 00:15:37 | |
Salary ordinance reflects the salaries that were held at. | 00:15:51 | |
That were presented at. | 00:15:56 | |
Budget hearings as well as are reflected in the budget that was just adopted. So it does match those numbers. Again, the caveat | 00:15:59 | |
being that we don't know what the union and county will come to as far as an agreement. So the highway workers hourly rate will be | 00:16:07 | |
adjusted after the first of the year once a resolution is found there. But everything else matches the budgets that we're just. | 00:16:15 | |
Adopted. | 00:16:23 | |
Motion to approve salary ordinance. | 00:16:28 | |
2025 with the. | 00:16:30 | |
Caveat that the road department. | 00:16:34 | |
Salaries will be updated at the 1st January 2025. | 00:16:37 | |
2nd, we have a motion and a second for the 2025 salary ordinance. Any discussion? I just was I'm wondering why the road department | 00:16:43 | |
contract hasn't been? | 00:16:48 | |
Finalized ship? Well, there were several reasons. | 00:16:54 | |
The uh. | 00:16:58 | |
The head of their union was in the hospital for several months, I believe. | 00:17:01 | |
And so we met late to start and. | 00:17:06 | |
They presented the. | 00:17:11 | |
Insurance. | 00:17:14 | |
Deal again to us and. | 00:17:16 | |
That comes out of Chicago, so we had to coordinate that. | 00:17:19 | |
And then just over the last few weeks, it's been trying to get people on the same. | 00:17:22 | |
Meeting date and time to where we finally just said. | 00:17:26 | |
This week it's not going to matter if we do it this week or not. So we we're meeting again on Monday to try to forget to a | 00:17:30 | |
resolution. But it's it's been a combination of different things. | 00:17:37 | |
It's also worth noting that it's not uncommon that we, you know, we all know that here, but it's more for the public to you know, | 00:17:50 | |
for the for any salary ordinance that we have in any given year to be amended throughout the year with any adjustments that are | 00:17:56 | |
made. So it's not we have ended quarterly and resubmit it to the state at the same time that it is amended. | 00:18:02 | |
So you constantly keep it in an up-to-date format. | 00:18:08 | |
Any further questions or discussion? | 00:18:15 | |
All in favor of the 2025 Sally ordinance say aye aye. Any opposed? | 00:18:19 | |
That carries. | 00:18:24 | |
All right. That I'll, I'll take a motion to adjourn this budget meeting that concludes all of our agenda items. So moved. Second, | 00:18:27 | |
we are adjourned. | 00:18:31 |