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I want to stay up front. 00:00:14
We got a big house today. 00:00:27
These are these are on. You turned them on, dude. 00:00:29
OK. All right. We're going to call the Redevelopment Commission meeting to order roll call, please, Chris. 00:00:34
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Here all right, Rich is out of town today so he's not going to be able to join us but we do have a quorum so. 00:00:51
OK. Your first order of business is the approval of our minutes from January 16th. Is there a motion to approve? 00:00:59
Motion to approve. Motion by John. Is there a second? Second. 00:01:09
Second by Brad, is there any discussion? 00:01:15
All in favor say aye aye. Motion carries and looks like we have one claim for approval with young Lynn Anderson craft in the 00:01:17
amount of 637 motion to approve. 00:01:23
Any further discussion? No. All right. All the speakers say hi. Motion carries. 00:01:35
Theresa, I'll put that up here. 00:01:42
OK, Don, I think you're up because we have some reports. 00:01:49
Yes, just for your information, are the reports of the different funding sources, There's nothing really to report there. One of 00:01:54
the items that was in your packet I'll go to is the very last one, which is to Make My Move program, just to give you an update on 00:02:00
that. 00:02:06
We've got three moved, ten that have accepted, two that were offered as of the time that was done. There's actually the third one 00:02:14
that was. 00:02:19
An interim and so that just kind of shows you where we are in terms of. 00:02:24
Moved, accepted. We're up to about 15 so far. I know that there was a question from the subcommittee on the candidate. I've 00:02:31
reached out this morning to Catherine to ask for that clarification that you're looking for on eligibility. I haven't checked my 00:02:39
e-mail to see if she's responded yet. Yeah, that was the first one that was like you and I both caught that. 00:02:46
So yeah, no, I've reached out to to her. 00:02:55
She should give give a response on that is just. 00:02:59
Primarily where we stand with our with with the different funds and make my move. Do you have any questions I'd be happy to 00:03:03
answer. 00:03:07
Is what have we reached out? I don't know. I think we talked about this last time, the three that have moved just to be able to 00:03:12
maybe meet him, talk to him, make a testimonial, anything like that. 00:03:17
I mean, staff has talked with him and I can reach out to him. They they're. 00:03:24
Being open to kind of, I'll ask them to. 00:03:32
To kind of give you an update of their experience so far, maybe kind of just some feedback. They don't have to come and they're 00:03:36
willingness. Yeah, no, be more happy to do that. They they all seem, you know, as far as far as my interaction with them, they've 00:03:40
all seem to be very happy with. 00:03:45
Be any residents before county. Good deal. 00:03:50
And next on our agenda is public comment of I guess of any time. So if anybody has any comments. 00:03:54
Board bonds under old business, I think we have to sign our. 00:04:04
Yeah, I understand. We haven't received those yet. Still haven't received them. OK. Still waiting on those. Are we still covered? 00:04:08
OK. 00:04:11
We haven't received them. 00:04:15
Assuming we are but. 00:04:17
Last I've heard we can we can come by and sign those individually as we normally. 00:04:19
Right, yes. Do we need a? No, you can come by and sign them individually. You just need to do them and we just that's part of the 00:04:25
statutory piece of the. 00:04:29
OK. 00:04:36
OK. So next item is we have our public hearing for the Edwardsville School project and that's for the Don. You may have to jump in 00:04:37
here on this. That's for the. 00:04:43
Declaratory resolution part of that or not, that's where they. 00:04:50
Thinking of the other piece on the red water piece, this is for this is. 00:04:55
Give me just a second here. 00:05:00
This public hearing is for the conformatory resolution for the Evansville School Project, and the school project is for. 00:05:04
Improvements. 00:05:16
That are being made to the well, the creation of the of the Gateway Economic Area, which is the five parcels around the Gateway 00:05:18
Village allocation area. 00:05:24
It has went through Planning Commission for approval and it has went through the county commissioners for approval. So this public 00:05:31
hearing which was notified. 00:05:34
Is set. 00:05:39
For the. 00:05:41
For both the. 00:05:44
OK. For after this public chairman public comment about the project, so the project. 00:05:50
Just to give everyone understand the project, this is an Edwardsville build operate transfer project for the Edwardsville School. 00:05:57
As part of the agreement with the developer, the county is going is making public improvements including a regional storm water 00:06:04
basin, sanitary sewer extension all the way to Carroll Ave. Improvements to Carroll Ave. 00:06:12
And through a build operate transfer which at the end of the day there's a maximum amount of term sheet of. I think 1.5 is the 00:06:21
maximum the the. 00:06:26
Guaranteed price came in at 1.197. 00:06:31
For the improvements. 00:06:38
To that project in exchange for that the developer is going to be donating after he weather tights and improvements in the 00:06:41
process. And part of that agreement was to clean weather weatherproof touch point and replace the roof on the Edwardsville school 00:06:49
project on the Edgewood school building which that an acre plus of land would be donated for future community. 00:06:57
Center for for the county, so the developers making those improvements, we're making the the public improvements to that. So this 00:07:05
is just a resolution that will take. 00:07:11
The 120 unit apartment making its own TIF district. 00:07:18
And on allocation area and then the improvements that I've described in terms of the bond that the funds that are being raised, 00:07:24
the funds that are the tip that's being raised will pay the. 00:07:30
The bond. The bond payment. 00:07:38
For those improvements, right. So this is a public hearing on the changing of the development area and that the amended plan for 00:07:40
that. So they're adding several parcels, removing several parcels and that's the public hearing on the meeting plan which we 00:07:47
approved an initial resolution in October, I think Planning Commission and it's been since been approved by the other body. So now 00:07:53
we're confirmatory resolution stage. 00:08:00
I think we're saying the same, yes, you said it a little bit quicker than that. All right. 00:08:07
So is anyone in the public want to speak? 00:08:14
Regarding this. 00:08:18
Project. 00:08:19
I make a motion to reapprove first. I'll just know there's no public to speak. close the public hearing. That's where I was going 00:08:24
to go next. So we will close the public hearing portion and move into the new business. 00:08:30
So the first time we do have is the confirmatory resolution for the Edwardsville School project. Is there a motion to approve that 00:08:38
confirmatory resolution? 00:08:42
Do we have a resolution number? 00:08:47
Should point of order. 00:08:51
I'm going to go ahead and make a motion to close it. I think you want a motion to do a closer just so it's reflected on the 00:08:54
meeting. 00:08:58
Always. Previously, aye. 00:09:03
So now we're in the confirmatory resolution and it would be resolution one. 00:09:06
OK. 00:09:13
Is there a motion to approve? 00:09:16
Confirmatory resolution #2024-01. 00:09:19
Motion to approve. 00:09:25
Second, second, second by bread. Any discussion further on that? 00:09:27
Yeah, this does allow us to have the money to move forward. That's good to get the bonding in place. 00:09:33
All those in favor say aye aye. 00:09:38
Motion carries. Next up is the Mitch lease. Tracy, are you going to have an original for us to sign on that? 00:09:41
OK. 00:09:50
Before John gets out, you make sure you have a hard shot. 00:09:51
The Mitch lease Don's got it in front of him but and he can explain it, but that's the the farmer that was using the the property. 00:09:56
Since it's still available, Don, go ahead. 00:10:04
Last year, when the county purchased the property from the from the historic landmarks, the Redevelopment Commission purchased 00:10:08
approximately 20 acres. 00:10:14
Approximately 20 acres to the West and over park for future development. 00:10:22
There's a two leases, ones with the Redevelopment Commission. 00:10:27
I've got the Board of Commissioners, Lisa, apologize. I've got one done. I've, I've got the one with the redevelopment list. So, 00:10:32
so basically they're asking to lease the property as they had, oh, here's the redevelopment, sorry, redevelopment lease. They have 00:10:38
13 tillable acres. 00:10:44
So there's some would be that they're looking for price. 00:10:52
There are 1950 dollars. 00:10:56
And they've got the payments in the spring and in the fall in terms of amounts. 00:11:00
And it's a year lease and it's a. 00:11:06
Yeah, that's really kind of the the since there's no activity on that property, right? 00:11:10
And. 00:11:17
Yeah. I mean, we've done this in the past. 00:11:19
And the properties being used, yeah, motion to approve the farm lease to. 00:11:23
McAfee Brothers Farms, LLC. 00:11:34
Is there a motion made by John? Is there a second? 00:11:37
2nd for discussion, second from Brad. Any discussion? 00:11:40
This is in effect till when the end of December this year terminates on December Item 4. 00:11:45
Affected on April 1st to the end of the year. Yeah, OK. 00:11:53
Got it. 00:11:57
Is that it? 00:11:59
That's any other discussion. 00:12:02
All those in favor say aye aye, motion carries and I'll, I'll sign this one. Theresa, just leave it over here. 00:12:04
Like that? 00:12:13
We're the only one that signs. 00:12:14
OK. 00:12:26
All right, Nova Park updates. 00:12:29
In front of you is resolution 2024, Dash 2. 00:12:32
It's declaratory resolution for the red wire tip. 00:12:36
This would put lots one and two of Noah Park into a. 00:12:41
Into a separate allocation area for the. 00:12:46
For the Red Wire project, so this is the first step, you're at the end of the Edwardsville Chef. This is the first step in the 00:12:52
process for this for the Red Wire BOT. So it would go, if approved here, it would go to the Planning Commission, county 00:13:01
commissioners, and then come back here for a public hearing and conformatory resolutions. So yeah, Brad gave us a a. 00:13:09
Fred being on with Barnes and Thurber, he gave us a really good schedule. I don't know if you all saw your e-mail. 00:13:18
If, if everything goes according to the schedule, we'd be looking at first week, which looks like May 9th of closing the fund, 00:13:24
closing on all the funds and having them in hand. So. 00:13:30
I think that's good. It helps, helps, gives us an idea. 00:13:37
This is the path we've always been on. But is there any, I mean, any issues, concerns, not that I'm aware of. I mean we, I think 00:13:41
we. 00:13:44
Crossed all the eyes and crossed all the T's. 00:13:48
We're ready to. So you're ready for a motion? We're ready for a motion. Motion to approve Resolution 2024, Dash 02/02. 00:13:51
Is that right? 00:13:58
Is there a second? 00:14:01
Second. Second by John. Any discussion of 02? 00:14:02
Yeah, OK. 00:14:09
All those favor say aye aye. 00:14:11
Motion carries. 00:14:13
Items two and three are more informational at this time. Mr. Sherman is here to answer any questions. We are. 00:14:16
In the process, I think some some documents are in the process of being circulated around. I think there's a draft lease with red 00:14:24
wire that's being circulated around. There's also. 00:14:28
The guaranteed maximum price contract for Building 5, the VOT agreement and it's going to be circulated around as well. And then 00:14:35
there was a request for a reimbursement agreement for some additional architectural and engineering cost. 00:14:43
Associated with the project and primarily those costs are associated with 5000 square feet that the county is going to be 00:14:52
occupying in the building. Yeah, we had to just to bring you guys up to speed, if you recall we added that. 00:14:58
The building was 30,000 square feet originally and we added a wing or a. 00:15:05
In addition to the building. 00:15:11
5000 square feet for our use, for the county's use. So their architects had to go back and tweak it, make some. 00:15:13
Modifications to the structure. 00:15:21
Is there, do we have an agreement in here Don for that? No, there's just really today was just to kind of give you an update of 00:15:25
where we are and they'll they'll be items being circulated around or agreement for the reimbursement piece for both the 00:15:30
reimbursement piece and the guaranteed maximum price. I would suggest there's probably going to be a need at some point in time 00:15:36
for a special meeting, just maintain the calendar. 00:15:42
Just also just for your all's information, I do know that Red Wire and their chief scientists had a meeting with IUS and the 00:15:49
Chancellor. 00:15:53
Regarding the labs and how they could work. 00:15:57
Put together and some type of. 00:16:00
Program. 00:16:03
Utilize the labs that the county is going to be constructing with a. 00:16:05
They have a similar project I believe. 00:16:12
Out of Butler, that they do. 00:16:15
So, and their chief scientist is, is connected with, I think he may work or did work with Eli Lilly so that they were supposed to 00:16:18
have that meeting last week according to Rich. So I think there's some opportunity there in terms of that space that we'll be 00:16:24
using. 00:16:30
Be able to utilize that for. 00:16:36
For, for IUS, for Ius in terms of students and for what we're trying to accomplish out there. 00:16:40
Building the talent base. 00:16:46
OK. So nothing for us to act on at this point? No, not at this time we've got. 00:16:51
Also have Tim, Tim Berry and Rachel Baker are here from Crow. 00:16:58
I'll talk about a little bit about three or four, building 3 and four. Those are the two barns. We did get some initial cost back 00:17:06
from Michelle Allen Ritz for renovating both of those facilities. Those came in a total approximately a little over $3,000,000, 00:17:14
which is over budget. So I've asked those, I've asked Troy, Michelle to revise those numbers and see how we can. 00:17:23
Bring those numbers significantly down. So I would, I would imagine that there's going to be probably some changes in use in terms 00:17:31
of those structures and also maybe some in terms of scheduling and and lengthening of time of those reservations. But I have asked 00:17:40
him having a firmer number for you all on the on the those requests by. 00:17:48
Buyer, your next meeting. 00:17:59
And then building 5 as a BLT build operate transfer agreement that we will be working with. 00:18:01
The. 00:18:10
Total amount of the project right now stands at 9.8 or 9 point right at 9.8 million. Four point 2 million of that is ready bond is 00:18:13
ready grant. So I'm not bond ready grant that will go towards that goes for that construction and then the the remaining being a 00:18:19
a. 00:18:25
That's going to have the payment sources be the lease payments of red wire back to plus the tip revenue, so. 00:18:34
Tim and Rachel are here if you have any specific questions about that. 00:18:44
No, I do not. Sorry. We're signing some papers up here. 00:18:55
And then the final thing I have on Nova Park, just to give you a real quick update, had a meeting with John Myers with this 00:18:59
Indiana Small Business Development Corporation. Their lease in New Albany ends at the end of this year, they've asked. 00:19:07
Have approached us about leasing space at Nova Park Small Business Development Corporation and two offices in building 1. So I 00:19:16
think that's I think that's an All in all being being the hub for the Small Business Development Corporation. 00:19:25
And be in their office space at the park is going to be a great positive and we just need direction from you all on moving forward 00:19:36
with. 00:19:41
Talking to them about lease, about lease, they would be in the house, yes, OK. 00:19:48
I think that's a great idea. Who for fresh from my memory someone was looking at half of the whistle stop complex, right. We 00:19:54
talked about leasing at short term to someone, right Or is that for voting or that was voting that was voting that that was 00:20:02
voting. We have, we do have we have had two individuals come out and look at the property ones. 00:20:10
Buffer Louisville based one is a software app right now in the building you have IU SE as an office. We have two offices for our 00:20:20
accelerator ones is the is the vet Nexus company, the others craft tech and so we have 3 three other offices available so. 00:20:30
That their lease ends in December of this year. So I think December of this they are really looking at the possibility of maybe 00:21:20
getting out there sooner. So I guess the action item I was looking for, for the board was to continue pulling together. 00:21:29
Some type of draft agreement with them. Yeah, you get our support to do that. Just pull that together and bring it back to us. I 00:21:39
don't know that we need an action. I mean, there's no nothing to vote on. 00:21:45
But if you could. 00:21:50
Do you want them for direction? Do you want a formal motion for direction? We can get, I can get you one. 00:21:53
I can get you a motion. I don't know if I can get you a second. 00:22:01
Meeting with the ISBC officials to bring back to us ISBDC officials. 00:22:06
A potential lease agreement. So moved. I'll see. I got you. There's 10 seconds. 00:22:16
I'm gonna give it to Jeff. He beat me in favor. Say aye, Aye, I will have one. I do have one question. The discussion went quick. 00:22:22
The you said. 00:22:34
Somebody staffed in the front lobby of that building. 00:22:36
Is that what you said? Have a full time they would have a full time receptionist and they being and they would they would staff 00:22:40
and pay for that. OK, got it. Which is great because when you walk in now it's just. 00:22:46
Open room. 00:22:53
OK, Don, Are they currently at the Purdue building? 00:22:56
They are at the old Tribune Building. 00:23:00
OK. 00:23:02
Was that Julie Isrig's former job? Former job. OK, It's John Myers and Mike Fulkerson. 00:23:04
Good. OK. 00:23:12
All right. 00:23:15
Next item on our agenda is the Broadband Tip update. 00:23:18
So, yeah, and Tim's here, but he's he's working with the auditor a little bit in. 00:23:24
Answered a few questions. 00:23:30
Hopefully the base will get adjusted correctly so that we can get some increment on that at some point. I don't know if you want 00:23:32
to give an update or not, Tim, but. 00:23:36
I think he's worked with the auditor a bit to try to get that corrected and updated. 00:23:42
I have been in contact with the auditor to make those corrections. 00:23:48
They sent us information last week for this year's property taxes. They're aware that they will also need to make a corrective 00:23:53
entry at spring settlement of this year to account for what they did not distribute last December. 00:24:00
And in fact, we're going to go over there after this meeting today and work through that process to make sure that they get that 00:24:10
properly accounted for coming forward. 00:24:14
Is there any? 00:24:19
Deadline that were close to not meeting in order to be able to capture this or you've done everything as a Commission that you 00:24:21
needed to do and. 00:24:26
Filed everything. 00:24:33
And she is in the process of preparing her property tax abstract. 00:24:36
And that would be a part of that property tax abstract. So we will make sure that those numbers are correct before that is 00:24:41
processed. OK, just want to make sure, OK, that that there's no even though we missed the deadline. 00:24:47
OK. Just want to make sure the property tax abstract deadline is not until March 15th? 00:24:54
OK. 00:25:02
And you know, part of the challenge that the auditor's office is working through, as you're well aware, John, they have 00:25:04
transitioned tax software to allow. 00:25:09
A system that I believe will be much more responsive to their needs and will be much easier for them to utilize moving forward as 00:25:17
well. So thanks for the update. 00:25:23
Thank you for your help, Tim. I got a couple questions the so they. 00:25:29
Just to come. 00:25:34
So the property tax recalculation, however you describe that the is that is that an is there an impact to that at all like seems 00:25:37
seems like something was miscalculated needs to be recalculated. Is there some sort of impact or we still within the deadline of 00:25:43
getting that without some sort of negative impact? So we're still there and are, are they being the author's office being 00:25:49
responsive, you get it somewhere with them on this. 00:25:55
We had reached out to the auditor's office. They reached out with some data last week on their initial conversion. They're in that 00:26:02
process of trying to balance from the old system to the new system, and they reached out with all of that information. 00:26:10
We had some questions and based upon what they sent to us and we thought it was easier to just do it and solve both of those 00:26:20
issues here in this one visit today. OK, thank you. 00:26:26
Pretty sure all your work, yeah. 00:26:33
Eversville school don't you're back up development agreement bot. We kind of covered that didn't we? Yeah well this is just an 00:26:38
update on that I. 00:26:41
There's a meeting for Friday. 00:26:47
Just there's some. 00:26:51
To update and there be an amendment to that plan or that agreement regarding timing, I think there's some, there was some. 00:26:52
There's an initial schedule. It got got there was some. 00:27:00
Quest There were some questions regarding soil. 00:27:05
Yeah, there's gonna be some schedule delayed the schedule. So the schedule needs to be revised are being requested to be revised. 00:27:09
So there's a meeting Friday with the Developer Council to to look at that item and then yeah, we'll come back with that if there's 00:27:17
a need for an an amendment and what that is I, I do also have give this to you at the end of the meeting is Mr. Sharman did bring 00:27:25
some draft agreements for you which we don't have for the. 00:27:32
Bought right just no I got anything back on the draft on the draft amendment for the bond these are from from Jeff yeah that's 00:27:40
different since we're just talking I want to make sure maybe I can do this after the meeting too but the. 00:27:48
We have a development agreement with the developer for the improvements on the Edwardsville project piece. We've approved 00:27:57
negotiations of a bond agreement and a bot with Mac. If that's is that right And we have a what I'll call a temporary funding 00:28:05
agreement till we have figured out funding. But we do need the actual bond agreement with Mac still and that and. 00:28:13
Switch gears, that's the draft of that bot agreement we just received, which from Shireman because that was something someone that 00:28:22
we had approved before. So both of them are in kind of a similar spot. We just don't have a draft of the Mack bot agreement. 00:28:29
We do have as of just real recently, yesterday maybe afternoon, the draft of the bot agreement for Shireman, is that right? And 00:28:37
both are going to be funded in the same funding source, if you will, same way. 00:28:43
I just want to make sure I was. No, you're, you're right. And at some point once the property is transferred, you know, that's not 00:28:52
on our agenda, but it's part of this discussion. There are sewer fees due to the town of Georgetown. 00:28:59
For the development overall, so the apartments and the school, the reason I bring that up is the town is opening bids tonight. 00:29:08
On the list station. 00:29:17
What's funding that lift station? Are these fees? 00:29:19
So it's a chicken and the egg like. 00:29:24
They got to get a fee payment commitment. 00:29:27
They may not. I can't speak for the Council, but. 00:29:30
I'm just bringing that up. 00:29:33
And I know we don't. 00:29:35
Own we the county? 00:29:37
We don't own that yet, right? No, we don't. So we wouldn't be responsible at this point. Somebody's got to whether that's in the 00:29:39
agreement. I'm just, I'm not trying to muddy the waters, but the prior development agreement, you mean with with Edwardsville, the 00:29:46
town, the town of Georgetown needs a commitment from somebody. 00:29:53
For them to give them some cover to move forward with these upfront expense, yeah, their bids would be good for 90 days. So 00:30:02
there's a window of time that it can be figured out. 00:30:06
Is it this board or is it the developer who needs to give that up? Sounds like something to talk about either before or during the 00:30:11
call. 00:30:15
I think it's something to talk about during the call. Yeah, somebody got to so the staff would look at it as it's a developer he 00:30:20
has, yeah. So we've. 00:30:24
They're aware of all those feats. 00:30:30
The developers because there was two parts. 00:30:31
Up to the development, there's the apartment piece and the school piece. 00:30:34
And the fees were split out for both, so he's aware of the overall number. 00:30:39
That makes sense. 00:30:45
And it's it's. 00:30:47
Not a small number. 00:30:48
Anyway. 00:30:52
I'm just bringing that up because we will need to discuss that with him. 00:30:55
And whenever we want to release, because I think we were going to put it on Mac to give us a draft bot agreement like Shireman 00:30:59
did. 00:31:03
Whenever we're ready to tell them to do that. 00:31:08
We probably need to get them to. I'll reach out to him today. Yeah, Yeah. Let me know what you want to do. I just. 00:31:10
That part I thought they had. Didn't they start one? 00:31:18
They they said they were going to start one. I don't think I ever got a draft. I haven't seen it. We had that temporary funding 00:31:22
agreement that this board approved, that approved for you to enter into negotiating, enter into a bot agreement and a temporary 00:31:28
funding. We did the temporary funding because we didn't have funds to enter into a. 00:31:33
The bot agreement yet, right? And we're still figuring that out, which is what we're doing. It is confusing because we have two 00:31:39
that are running not quite the same track and. 00:31:44
You know, we've they're in almost almost become entertained. They're overlapping to the extent of confusion. 00:31:50
You know, I mean, they're causing a little. So that's all. I just wanted to make clear what we're we're on the right same page 00:31:56
here. 00:31:59
I guess a little bit, maybe a little bit of direction for our meeting in terms of. 00:32:04
Worst position on the On the. 00:32:11
Capacity fees and if that's a, if that's just something you all want to entertain or if that's something that you feel like. 00:32:14
Would that help Justin? 00:32:23
No, I mean they are, but they are. Thoughts. 00:32:25
What are your thoughts on my question? 00:32:28
Staff is, I think that's a development fox. 00:32:31
I think all of it. 00:32:36
Sure, even even what's could you said there was two. Well, there's a component to the to the school, right. They're donating the 00:32:37
school and and how I would look at it as staff is that they're bringing it to the county something that's already set ready to be 00:32:44
occupied. And the reason the school has the reason the school has a capacity to do for sewer. It was never connected to sewer. 00:32:50
That old school was never never tied into the sewer system. 00:32:57
It has an on site. 00:33:05
Treatment system Septic. 00:33:07
Years ago. So it's never been tied in. That's why they have it. That's why there's a fee for that piece as well. 00:33:09
And we have a development agreement. So unless the development agreement says that we're responsible, I don't think it does. I 00:33:17
don't think it says we have. I'm just bringing up because there's got to be a, there's going to be a resolution of that issue. And 00:33:24
it does affect the project in terms of, of the, of the reason I say that is I know when they open bids tonight, I'm not going to 00:33:31
say what I think the number is here now because the bids aren't due till 6:30. 00:33:39
But these fees were were meant to pay. 00:33:46
Pay for that work. 00:33:49
You know, otherwise it sounds like I'm not gonna. Why would we do it? It's for this. 00:33:52
I would agree it has to be driven by the development in terms of the improvements to the sewer. OK, a point that you probably 00:33:58
already know. I. 00:34:02
Being that it's not in the agreement which. 00:34:08
It sounds like it's not. It looks like it's not. 00:34:11
Indicate if to me it indicates that it would be a developer issue and not a. Well, we'll bring it up for that. 00:34:14
That, that that's the point that I would make if I'm in your shoes. I just, I just wanna, I just wanna, I guess before I, I make a 00:34:20
statement, typically I wanna make sure I'm making a mistake if I'm the representative, right, Right. 00:34:27
It's not addressed in the agreement. So I think that's where we stand because it's the responsibility of the developer, OK. 00:34:38
And Bob, I think you got the last night I do so Facade Grant I was at. 00:34:46
Oh, what was that called? Billy, you're here. 5 star Galaxy, five stars. That what it was called. 00:34:53
Yeah. 00:35:01
They had a economic development. 00:35:02
Luncheon in Georgetown and the destination Georgetown. 00:35:06
Sponsored it. 00:35:10
Pretty well attended, but anyway, Curled oil with Polyfreeze came up to me, she says there's redevelopment. 00:35:11
Floyd County redevelopment? Do you have facade grants? 00:35:17
I said I think maybe we used to, but I don't know if we do. 00:35:20
So I want to bring that up because. 00:35:25
She would like to apply for a facade grant and I think if we don't have that program, maybe we ought to consider it. Thank you. 00:35:27
For existing businesses it's. 00:35:30
It'd be a good program. 00:35:35
And my thoughts were we have a revolving loan fund with a substantial dollar amount in it. 00:35:37
I don't see why we couldn't earmark. Part of that is a. 00:35:44
Facade Grant program and I don't know Don did we used to have one. 00:35:48
How we talked about it, OK. We never, we never, OK. 00:35:53
So. 00:35:58
I mean, I'm thinking we could just earmark some of that. 00:36:01
She she didn't even, she didn't even mention like. 00:36:05
We're looking to do acknowledges of improvement. She just said that we need to do some facade improvements and it would be helpful 00:36:08
if there was a program out there that could help me with that so. 00:36:13
I think, Don, maybe we could draft something to come back to this board with some thoughts or ideas on it. 00:36:20
Pros and cons to to it. 00:36:27
I mean if if it's. 00:36:29
I had to. I can't remember. 00:36:34
So most so most of them are not paying for all of it. No, it's only it's a small. 00:36:36
And then they get approved for some amount of funding with their estimates and then afterwards get reimbursed based on. 00:37:19
Trying to help be business friendly in the county. Yeah, no, I'm not. I'm just so I mean, I'm all for it because I mean, I know 00:37:27
what small businesses go through. Yeah, I wasn't I wasn't speaking negatively. I just was stopping at my lawyer role of here's the 00:37:34
the nuts and bolts of what happens normally done in some other place. 00:37:42
And now I think we have a grant program and, and I'm speaking Georgetown has one and, and it's exactly what Justin described. 00:37:50
Yeah, it's up to a dollar amount. They they have to show how they're going to use it. They have to show receipts. And it's yeah, 00:37:56
like the new. 00:38:02
And you think they may have a new little brewery coming in 30 facade Grant So is polyphrase asking or just the person that owns 00:38:10
Polyp is going she would like to ask for she don't follow. She wants to come in the hassle pilot freeze. 00:38:17
In the TIF district, and in fact, that's what I was saying. 00:38:26
You're spending on TIF money. This is revolving loans. You'd be administering it for the county commissioners because it's 00:38:32
ancillary to, it's not, it's not specific to it. It's it's kind of ancillary to what you guys do. So you're administrating it. 00:38:37
It's not actually a redevelopment tiff. 00:38:42
Just thought about and they're usually a cabinet. 00:38:51
Usually the cap is fairly modest. 00:38:54
You could, I mean, you could say I'm looking to add a couple of employees, but my resources are stretched so thin. I can't even I 00:38:57
can't do both. I mean, I'm not saying that's you have to have that. You may just want to circulate the what other. 00:39:04
Yeah. And if you have examples you could share with us that would just so people could ask questions and see. But I I'd like to 00:39:12
report back to Carol that, hey, we are looking at it. We'll bring it up at our next meeting with some drafts. 00:39:18
Further discuss. 00:39:24
Because we do, we do have the, we do have funds that I feel like we could earmark some of those monies. 00:39:26
You know, maybe just. 00:39:33
Have a small budget each year. 00:39:35
People can tap into. I think it's I think it's a good idea. I'd like yeah, I like this details of how others do it, get a little 00:39:37
bit more familiar with it. That's all I had on that. I just, you know, I just want it. I think it's it's good. We help promote 00:39:43
existing businesses. We're trying to help them and be. 00:39:49
As friendly as we can, you know. 00:39:55
So no. 00:39:58
There was one item. There's some engagement letters for finalizing the buy. 00:40:00
Do we have the romp crow? I believe that. 00:40:07
That you should. 00:40:10
And if. 00:40:14
Probably. 00:40:20
Well, I don't think I've seen them either. OK, so you want to just can we entertain a motion to for you to review, approve the 00:40:22
engagement letters with engagement letter or letters, letters with Crow contingent upon legal and legal review? 00:40:32
Allow me to sign it outside of the meeting. Do you want any details of what it is? Is it a flat fee? Is it a, is it hourly? If you 00:40:43
want to give details, I would love to know some details because I don't, I don't know. I don't know what I'm voting for and when 00:40:50
it comes to attorneys or engagement letters, I need to know. 00:40:57
They are for the issuance of bonds on the Edwardsville project and the. 00:41:05
Red wire, red wire. Thank you. I couldn't think of red wire red wire project only because we had code names. Are they flat fees? 00:41:16
Are they variable? They have they're hourly with a not to exceed. 00:41:23
And they are all payable from bond proceeds at the time of closing. 00:41:31
Are the three votes needed on this one? 00:41:36
For engagement letter No. 00:41:39
No. How many votes are needed for this? 00:41:41
To approve engagement letter just just to simple majority. Yeah. What I'm saying. Oh, you lost 10. He's making it. Yeah, I see. Is 00:41:43
that a motion to thank you? Sorry. So if I hold out, it's that emotion to approve. I'm a little slow with your humor this morning. 00:41:49
Either that or it's not good humor. I don't know. That's that's subjective. I mean, I'm not making it a legal opinion on that, but 00:41:55
that is totally subjective. Yeah. 00:42:01
Do I have a motion to approve? 00:42:11
Someone. Anyone. 00:42:13
This needs to be done. 00:42:19
Yes, because we have to proceed, we have to get the bombs moving on that and that's part of the schedule. If you looked at our. 00:42:20
Put it away as the overall schedule that you see. 00:42:28
Has anybody seen them with butters? Apparently they're in my e-mail and so. 00:42:32
But I'm going to forward them around there once so. 00:42:38
Yeah, well. 00:42:41
So I understand, I respect the process of of you, Bill Bob. 00:42:44
And and Justin to look it over before it goes forward. So I'll make a motion to approve the engagement letters plural and sign 00:42:49
outside and allow Bob to sign outside the meeting with the contingency of of the review of those by Bob and Justin. 00:42:58
A second motion made second any further discussion. 00:43:08
All those in favor say aye aye and I'll get those out right away. 00:43:13
Sorry about that. Oh, I'm sure. 00:43:18
I'm sure I have it. 00:43:22
Yeah, I'm sure I do. 00:43:25
OK. Anything else done for the good of the order? 00:43:28
No, nothing else. We'll entertain a motion to adjourn. 00:43:33
I just want to know if my humor is. 00:43:36
Fantastic. Good or not good? 00:43:39
Squeeze a jello. 00:43:46
I'll make a motion to adjourn. 00:43:49
Second, all in favor say aye. We're adjourned. Thank you. 00:43:51
Uh, right, I had Bill White on them. At least I didn't use the Mike Tyson punch him in the face, did we? We had that one before I 00:43:55
forgot to use that one. 00:44:00
Mike Tyson, everybody has a plan. 00:44:06
We were. 00:44:19
You missed the zinger. 00:44:24
We almost had to pick him up off the floor. 00:44:47
I've outlawed it. 00:44:51
I wish that is. 00:44:53
Sorry. 00:44:56
I was trying to stay ahead of it for you. 00:44:58
It's there's so much going on. 00:45:00
Thank you. 00:45:03
So. 00:45:13
Let me look at these, I need to sign them. 00:45:15
Gotcha. 00:45:28
But they own it as a separate corporation. As a non union separate entity they get first right refusal basically. 00:45:41
Gotcha. 00:45:50
Chill. 00:45:51
These are some because for years they wanted to go this, they wanted to take the story, but there's nothing. 00:45:54
Which honestly? 00:46:09
This would work much better for their traffic. 00:46:12
It's not the easiest thing. 00:46:18
Well, this I'm trying to get some perspective here. So this, this the front, the front, there's the goodwill. 00:46:23
Yeah, OK, so top company and all that stuff. So we just you come off 150, what I was looking for come off 150 when you turn here, 00:46:28
that is a death trap. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. It's a it's a funky little. So going to get. So that's going to be gone. 00:46:33
We're going to move the whole thing. How big is this? 00:46:39
Let's see, they're saying that's 100. 00:46:45
Wow more than double it's more than it's like 50 ish and. 00:46:49
This is just one of those old style stores, which is fine. 00:46:56
It's just not big enough. 00:47:00
Build the needs of the community, you know, it's like you know, we run the JC to get quickly things. I'm not a Kroger for our 00:47:02
makers. 00:47:05
They they don't have to wear out so that the State Street Kroger, that's not too close to build a big sign. 00:47:11
They said it's. 00:47:20
Well. 00:47:23
It's getting harder and harder. 00:47:26
That's another thing too they're trying to make. 00:47:30
That shopping experience better from people that are wanting to go there, right? 00:47:32
Because it it, that place gets crazy. It does, it does. And then the traffic sucks traffic. Oh, sure, all this stuff. 00:47:37
Is that what this is he just gave me? Oh, yeah, yeah. 00:47:46
I got your e-mail on our. 00:47:54
Oh yeah, I think. 00:47:56
To me, you've seen it, you not even thought about. 00:47:59
I I was gonna pull up Google Earth and they drive those. I'm just gonna pull it up Street View. I mean, you can bring some if you 00:48:05
want. I was thinking about two couple shots and e-mail them to you. You can pull up what it actually means. Yeah, because I was 00:48:12
gonna do the same thing. But we're just Google Earth. So to do something like that sounds good to me. Obviously, we've had that 00:48:18
for 25 years. 00:48:25
Within the next year or two, we will apply we. 00:48:32
We got delayed on our current funding because we got a grant right now through the state. The CMG is community crossings matching 00:48:37
grant C. 00:48:41
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I. 00:00:07
I want to stay up front. 00:00:14
We got a big house today. 00:00:27
These are these are on. You turned them on, dude. 00:00:29
OK. All right. We're going to call the Redevelopment Commission meeting to order roll call, please, Chris. 00:00:34
Here. 00:00:43
Here. 00:00:46
Here. 00:00:48
Here. 00:00:49
Here all right, Rich is out of town today so he's not going to be able to join us but we do have a quorum so. 00:00:51
OK. Your first order of business is the approval of our minutes from January 16th. Is there a motion to approve? 00:00:59
Motion to approve. Motion by John. Is there a second? Second. 00:01:09
Second by Brad, is there any discussion? 00:01:15
All in favor say aye aye. Motion carries and looks like we have one claim for approval with young Lynn Anderson craft in the 00:01:17
amount of 637 motion to approve. 00:01:23
Any further discussion? No. All right. All the speakers say hi. Motion carries. 00:01:35
Theresa, I'll put that up here. 00:01:42
OK, Don, I think you're up because we have some reports. 00:01:49
Yes, just for your information, are the reports of the different funding sources, There's nothing really to report there. One of 00:01:54
the items that was in your packet I'll go to is the very last one, which is to Make My Move program, just to give you an update on 00:02:00
that. 00:02:06
We've got three moved, ten that have accepted, two that were offered as of the time that was done. There's actually the third one 00:02:14
that was. 00:02:19
An interim and so that just kind of shows you where we are in terms of. 00:02:24
Moved, accepted. We're up to about 15 so far. I know that there was a question from the subcommittee on the candidate. I've 00:02:31
reached out this morning to Catherine to ask for that clarification that you're looking for on eligibility. I haven't checked my 00:02:39
e-mail to see if she's responded yet. Yeah, that was the first one that was like you and I both caught that. 00:02:46
So yeah, no, I've reached out to to her. 00:02:55
She should give give a response on that is just. 00:02:59
Primarily where we stand with our with with the different funds and make my move. Do you have any questions I'd be happy to 00:03:03
answer. 00:03:07
Is what have we reached out? I don't know. I think we talked about this last time, the three that have moved just to be able to 00:03:12
maybe meet him, talk to him, make a testimonial, anything like that. 00:03:17
I mean, staff has talked with him and I can reach out to him. They they're. 00:03:24
Being open to kind of, I'll ask them to. 00:03:32
To kind of give you an update of their experience so far, maybe kind of just some feedback. They don't have to come and they're 00:03:36
willingness. Yeah, no, be more happy to do that. They they all seem, you know, as far as far as my interaction with them, they've 00:03:40
all seem to be very happy with. 00:03:45
Be any residents before county. Good deal. 00:03:50
And next on our agenda is public comment of I guess of any time. So if anybody has any comments. 00:03:54
Board bonds under old business, I think we have to sign our. 00:04:04
Yeah, I understand. We haven't received those yet. Still haven't received them. OK. Still waiting on those. Are we still covered? 00:04:08
OK. 00:04:11
We haven't received them. 00:04:15
Assuming we are but. 00:04:17
Last I've heard we can we can come by and sign those individually as we normally. 00:04:19
Right, yes. Do we need a? No, you can come by and sign them individually. You just need to do them and we just that's part of the 00:04:25
statutory piece of the. 00:04:29
OK. 00:04:36
OK. So next item is we have our public hearing for the Edwardsville School project and that's for the Don. You may have to jump in 00:04:37
here on this. That's for the. 00:04:43
Declaratory resolution part of that or not, that's where they. 00:04:50
Thinking of the other piece on the red water piece, this is for this is. 00:04:55
Give me just a second here. 00:05:00
This public hearing is for the conformatory resolution for the Evansville School Project, and the school project is for. 00:05:04
Improvements. 00:05:16
That are being made to the well, the creation of the of the Gateway Economic Area, which is the five parcels around the Gateway 00:05:18
Village allocation area. 00:05:24
It has went through Planning Commission for approval and it has went through the county commissioners for approval. So this public 00:05:31
hearing which was notified. 00:05:34
Is set. 00:05:39
For the. 00:05:41
For both the. 00:05:44
OK. For after this public chairman public comment about the project, so the project. 00:05:50
Just to give everyone understand the project, this is an Edwardsville build operate transfer project for the Edwardsville School. 00:05:57
As part of the agreement with the developer, the county is going is making public improvements including a regional storm water 00:06:04
basin, sanitary sewer extension all the way to Carroll Ave. Improvements to Carroll Ave. 00:06:12
And through a build operate transfer which at the end of the day there's a maximum amount of term sheet of. I think 1.5 is the 00:06:21
maximum the the. 00:06:26
Guaranteed price came in at 1.197. 00:06:31
For the improvements. 00:06:38
To that project in exchange for that the developer is going to be donating after he weather tights and improvements in the 00:06:41
process. And part of that agreement was to clean weather weatherproof touch point and replace the roof on the Edwardsville school 00:06:49
project on the Edgewood school building which that an acre plus of land would be donated for future community. 00:06:57
Center for for the county, so the developers making those improvements, we're making the the public improvements to that. So this 00:07:05
is just a resolution that will take. 00:07:11
The 120 unit apartment making its own TIF district. 00:07:18
And on allocation area and then the improvements that I've described in terms of the bond that the funds that are being raised, 00:07:24
the funds that are the tip that's being raised will pay the. 00:07:30
The bond. The bond payment. 00:07:38
For those improvements, right. So this is a public hearing on the changing of the development area and that the amended plan for 00:07:40
that. So they're adding several parcels, removing several parcels and that's the public hearing on the meeting plan which we 00:07:47
approved an initial resolution in October, I think Planning Commission and it's been since been approved by the other body. So now 00:07:53
we're confirmatory resolution stage. 00:08:00
I think we're saying the same, yes, you said it a little bit quicker than that. All right. 00:08:07
So is anyone in the public want to speak? 00:08:14
Regarding this. 00:08:18
Project. 00:08:19
I make a motion to reapprove first. I'll just know there's no public to speak. close the public hearing. That's where I was going 00:08:24
to go next. So we will close the public hearing portion and move into the new business. 00:08:30
So the first time we do have is the confirmatory resolution for the Edwardsville School project. Is there a motion to approve that 00:08:38
confirmatory resolution? 00:08:42
Do we have a resolution number? 00:08:47
Should point of order. 00:08:51
I'm going to go ahead and make a motion to close it. I think you want a motion to do a closer just so it's reflected on the 00:08:54
meeting. 00:08:58
Always. Previously, aye. 00:09:03
So now we're in the confirmatory resolution and it would be resolution one. 00:09:06
OK. 00:09:13
Is there a motion to approve? 00:09:16
Confirmatory resolution #2024-01. 00:09:19
Motion to approve. 00:09:25
Second, second, second by bread. Any discussion further on that? 00:09:27
Yeah, this does allow us to have the money to move forward. That's good to get the bonding in place. 00:09:33
All those in favor say aye aye. 00:09:38
Motion carries. Next up is the Mitch lease. Tracy, are you going to have an original for us to sign on that? 00:09:41
OK. 00:09:50
Before John gets out, you make sure you have a hard shot. 00:09:51
The Mitch lease Don's got it in front of him but and he can explain it, but that's the the farmer that was using the the property. 00:09:56
Since it's still available, Don, go ahead. 00:10:04
Last year, when the county purchased the property from the from the historic landmarks, the Redevelopment Commission purchased 00:10:08
approximately 20 acres. 00:10:14
Approximately 20 acres to the West and over park for future development. 00:10:22
There's a two leases, ones with the Redevelopment Commission. 00:10:27
I've got the Board of Commissioners, Lisa, apologize. I've got one done. I've, I've got the one with the redevelopment list. So, 00:10:32
so basically they're asking to lease the property as they had, oh, here's the redevelopment, sorry, redevelopment lease. They have 00:10:38
13 tillable acres. 00:10:44
So there's some would be that they're looking for price. 00:10:52
There are 1950 dollars. 00:10:56
And they've got the payments in the spring and in the fall in terms of amounts. 00:11:00
And it's a year lease and it's a. 00:11:06
Yeah, that's really kind of the the since there's no activity on that property, right? 00:11:10
And. 00:11:17
Yeah. I mean, we've done this in the past. 00:11:19
And the properties being used, yeah, motion to approve the farm lease to. 00:11:23
McAfee Brothers Farms, LLC. 00:11:34
Is there a motion made by John? Is there a second? 00:11:37
2nd for discussion, second from Brad. Any discussion? 00:11:40
This is in effect till when the end of December this year terminates on December Item 4. 00:11:45
Affected on April 1st to the end of the year. Yeah, OK. 00:11:53
Got it. 00:11:57
Is that it? 00:11:59
That's any other discussion. 00:12:02
All those in favor say aye aye, motion carries and I'll, I'll sign this one. Theresa, just leave it over here. 00:12:04
Like that? 00:12:13
We're the only one that signs. 00:12:14
OK. 00:12:26
All right, Nova Park updates. 00:12:29
In front of you is resolution 2024, Dash 2. 00:12:32
It's declaratory resolution for the red wire tip. 00:12:36
This would put lots one and two of Noah Park into a. 00:12:41
Into a separate allocation area for the. 00:12:46
For the Red Wire project, so this is the first step, you're at the end of the Edwardsville Chef. This is the first step in the 00:12:52
process for this for the Red Wire BOT. So it would go, if approved here, it would go to the Planning Commission, county 00:13:01
commissioners, and then come back here for a public hearing and conformatory resolutions. So yeah, Brad gave us a a. 00:13:09
Fred being on with Barnes and Thurber, he gave us a really good schedule. I don't know if you all saw your e-mail. 00:13:18
If, if everything goes according to the schedule, we'd be looking at first week, which looks like May 9th of closing the fund, 00:13:24
closing on all the funds and having them in hand. So. 00:13:30
I think that's good. It helps, helps, gives us an idea. 00:13:37
This is the path we've always been on. But is there any, I mean, any issues, concerns, not that I'm aware of. I mean we, I think 00:13:41
we. 00:13:44
Crossed all the eyes and crossed all the T's. 00:13:48
We're ready to. So you're ready for a motion? We're ready for a motion. Motion to approve Resolution 2024, Dash 02/02. 00:13:51
Is that right? 00:13:58
Is there a second? 00:14:01
Second. Second by John. Any discussion of 02? 00:14:02
Yeah, OK. 00:14:09
All those favor say aye aye. 00:14:11
Motion carries. 00:14:13
Items two and three are more informational at this time. Mr. Sherman is here to answer any questions. We are. 00:14:16
In the process, I think some some documents are in the process of being circulated around. I think there's a draft lease with red 00:14:24
wire that's being circulated around. There's also. 00:14:28
The guaranteed maximum price contract for Building 5, the VOT agreement and it's going to be circulated around as well. And then 00:14:35
there was a request for a reimbursement agreement for some additional architectural and engineering cost. 00:14:43
Associated with the project and primarily those costs are associated with 5000 square feet that the county is going to be 00:14:52
occupying in the building. Yeah, we had to just to bring you guys up to speed, if you recall we added that. 00:14:58
The building was 30,000 square feet originally and we added a wing or a. 00:15:05
In addition to the building. 00:15:11
5000 square feet for our use, for the county's use. So their architects had to go back and tweak it, make some. 00:15:13
Modifications to the structure. 00:15:21
Is there, do we have an agreement in here Don for that? No, there's just really today was just to kind of give you an update of 00:15:25
where we are and they'll they'll be items being circulated around or agreement for the reimbursement piece for both the 00:15:30
reimbursement piece and the guaranteed maximum price. I would suggest there's probably going to be a need at some point in time 00:15:36
for a special meeting, just maintain the calendar. 00:15:42
Just also just for your all's information, I do know that Red Wire and their chief scientists had a meeting with IUS and the 00:15:49
Chancellor. 00:15:53
Regarding the labs and how they could work. 00:15:57
Put together and some type of. 00:16:00
Program. 00:16:03
Utilize the labs that the county is going to be constructing with a. 00:16:05
They have a similar project I believe. 00:16:12
Out of Butler, that they do. 00:16:15
So, and their chief scientist is, is connected with, I think he may work or did work with Eli Lilly so that they were supposed to 00:16:18
have that meeting last week according to Rich. So I think there's some opportunity there in terms of that space that we'll be 00:16:24
using. 00:16:30
Be able to utilize that for. 00:16:36
For, for IUS, for Ius in terms of students and for what we're trying to accomplish out there. 00:16:40
Building the talent base. 00:16:46
OK. So nothing for us to act on at this point? No, not at this time we've got. 00:16:51
Also have Tim, Tim Berry and Rachel Baker are here from Crow. 00:16:58
I'll talk about a little bit about three or four, building 3 and four. Those are the two barns. We did get some initial cost back 00:17:06
from Michelle Allen Ritz for renovating both of those facilities. Those came in a total approximately a little over $3,000,000, 00:17:14
which is over budget. So I've asked those, I've asked Troy, Michelle to revise those numbers and see how we can. 00:17:23
Bring those numbers significantly down. So I would, I would imagine that there's going to be probably some changes in use in terms 00:17:31
of those structures and also maybe some in terms of scheduling and and lengthening of time of those reservations. But I have asked 00:17:40
him having a firmer number for you all on the on the those requests by. 00:17:48
Buyer, your next meeting. 00:17:59
And then building 5 as a BLT build operate transfer agreement that we will be working with. 00:18:01
The. 00:18:10
Total amount of the project right now stands at 9.8 or 9 point right at 9.8 million. Four point 2 million of that is ready bond is 00:18:13
ready grant. So I'm not bond ready grant that will go towards that goes for that construction and then the the remaining being a 00:18:19
a. 00:18:25
That's going to have the payment sources be the lease payments of red wire back to plus the tip revenue, so. 00:18:34
Tim and Rachel are here if you have any specific questions about that. 00:18:44
No, I do not. Sorry. We're signing some papers up here. 00:18:55
And then the final thing I have on Nova Park, just to give you a real quick update, had a meeting with John Myers with this 00:18:59
Indiana Small Business Development Corporation. Their lease in New Albany ends at the end of this year, they've asked. 00:19:07
Have approached us about leasing space at Nova Park Small Business Development Corporation and two offices in building 1. So I 00:19:16
think that's I think that's an All in all being being the hub for the Small Business Development Corporation. 00:19:25
And be in their office space at the park is going to be a great positive and we just need direction from you all on moving forward 00:19:36
with. 00:19:41
Talking to them about lease, about lease, they would be in the house, yes, OK. 00:19:48
I think that's a great idea. Who for fresh from my memory someone was looking at half of the whistle stop complex, right. We 00:19:54
talked about leasing at short term to someone, right Or is that for voting or that was voting that was voting that that was 00:20:02
voting. We have, we do have we have had two individuals come out and look at the property ones. 00:20:10
Buffer Louisville based one is a software app right now in the building you have IU SE as an office. We have two offices for our 00:20:20
accelerator ones is the is the vet Nexus company, the others craft tech and so we have 3 three other offices available so. 00:20:30
That their lease ends in December of this year. So I think December of this they are really looking at the possibility of maybe 00:21:20
getting out there sooner. So I guess the action item I was looking for, for the board was to continue pulling together. 00:21:29
Some type of draft agreement with them. Yeah, you get our support to do that. Just pull that together and bring it back to us. I 00:21:39
don't know that we need an action. I mean, there's no nothing to vote on. 00:21:45
But if you could. 00:21:50
Do you want them for direction? Do you want a formal motion for direction? We can get, I can get you one. 00:21:53
I can get you a motion. I don't know if I can get you a second. 00:22:01
Meeting with the ISBC officials to bring back to us ISBDC officials. 00:22:06
A potential lease agreement. So moved. I'll see. I got you. There's 10 seconds. 00:22:16
I'm gonna give it to Jeff. He beat me in favor. Say aye, Aye, I will have one. I do have one question. The discussion went quick. 00:22:22
The you said. 00:22:34
Somebody staffed in the front lobby of that building. 00:22:36
Is that what you said? Have a full time they would have a full time receptionist and they being and they would they would staff 00:22:40
and pay for that. OK, got it. Which is great because when you walk in now it's just. 00:22:46
Open room. 00:22:53
OK, Don, Are they currently at the Purdue building? 00:22:56
They are at the old Tribune Building. 00:23:00
OK. 00:23:02
Was that Julie Isrig's former job? Former job. OK, It's John Myers and Mike Fulkerson. 00:23:04
Good. OK. 00:23:12
All right. 00:23:15
Next item on our agenda is the Broadband Tip update. 00:23:18
So, yeah, and Tim's here, but he's he's working with the auditor a little bit in. 00:23:24
Answered a few questions. 00:23:30
Hopefully the base will get adjusted correctly so that we can get some increment on that at some point. I don't know if you want 00:23:32
to give an update or not, Tim, but. 00:23:36
I think he's worked with the auditor a bit to try to get that corrected and updated. 00:23:42
I have been in contact with the auditor to make those corrections. 00:23:48
They sent us information last week for this year's property taxes. They're aware that they will also need to make a corrective 00:23:53
entry at spring settlement of this year to account for what they did not distribute last December. 00:24:00
And in fact, we're going to go over there after this meeting today and work through that process to make sure that they get that 00:24:10
properly accounted for coming forward. 00:24:14
Is there any? 00:24:19
Deadline that were close to not meeting in order to be able to capture this or you've done everything as a Commission that you 00:24:21
needed to do and. 00:24:26
Filed everything. 00:24:33
And she is in the process of preparing her property tax abstract. 00:24:36
And that would be a part of that property tax abstract. So we will make sure that those numbers are correct before that is 00:24:41
processed. OK, just want to make sure, OK, that that there's no even though we missed the deadline. 00:24:47
OK. Just want to make sure the property tax abstract deadline is not until March 15th? 00:24:54
OK. 00:25:02
And you know, part of the challenge that the auditor's office is working through, as you're well aware, John, they have 00:25:04
transitioned tax software to allow. 00:25:09
A system that I believe will be much more responsive to their needs and will be much easier for them to utilize moving forward as 00:25:17
well. So thanks for the update. 00:25:23
Thank you for your help, Tim. I got a couple questions the so they. 00:25:29
Just to come. 00:25:34
So the property tax recalculation, however you describe that the is that is that an is there an impact to that at all like seems 00:25:37
seems like something was miscalculated needs to be recalculated. Is there some sort of impact or we still within the deadline of 00:25:43
getting that without some sort of negative impact? So we're still there and are, are they being the author's office being 00:25:49
responsive, you get it somewhere with them on this. 00:25:55
We had reached out to the auditor's office. They reached out with some data last week on their initial conversion. They're in that 00:26:02
process of trying to balance from the old system to the new system, and they reached out with all of that information. 00:26:10
We had some questions and based upon what they sent to us and we thought it was easier to just do it and solve both of those 00:26:20
issues here in this one visit today. OK, thank you. 00:26:26
Pretty sure all your work, yeah. 00:26:33
Eversville school don't you're back up development agreement bot. We kind of covered that didn't we? Yeah well this is just an 00:26:38
update on that I. 00:26:41
There's a meeting for Friday. 00:26:47
Just there's some. 00:26:51
To update and there be an amendment to that plan or that agreement regarding timing, I think there's some, there was some. 00:26:52
There's an initial schedule. It got got there was some. 00:27:00
Quest There were some questions regarding soil. 00:27:05
Yeah, there's gonna be some schedule delayed the schedule. So the schedule needs to be revised are being requested to be revised. 00:27:09
So there's a meeting Friday with the Developer Council to to look at that item and then yeah, we'll come back with that if there's 00:27:17
a need for an an amendment and what that is I, I do also have give this to you at the end of the meeting is Mr. Sharman did bring 00:27:25
some draft agreements for you which we don't have for the. 00:27:32
Bought right just no I got anything back on the draft on the draft amendment for the bond these are from from Jeff yeah that's 00:27:40
different since we're just talking I want to make sure maybe I can do this after the meeting too but the. 00:27:48
We have a development agreement with the developer for the improvements on the Edwardsville project piece. We've approved 00:27:57
negotiations of a bond agreement and a bot with Mac. If that's is that right And we have a what I'll call a temporary funding 00:28:05
agreement till we have figured out funding. But we do need the actual bond agreement with Mac still and that and. 00:28:13
Switch gears, that's the draft of that bot agreement we just received, which from Shireman because that was something someone that 00:28:22
we had approved before. So both of them are in kind of a similar spot. We just don't have a draft of the Mack bot agreement. 00:28:29
We do have as of just real recently, yesterday maybe afternoon, the draft of the bot agreement for Shireman, is that right? And 00:28:37
both are going to be funded in the same funding source, if you will, same way. 00:28:43
I just want to make sure I was. No, you're, you're right. And at some point once the property is transferred, you know, that's not 00:28:52
on our agenda, but it's part of this discussion. There are sewer fees due to the town of Georgetown. 00:28:59
For the development overall, so the apartments and the school, the reason I bring that up is the town is opening bids tonight. 00:29:08
On the list station. 00:29:17
What's funding that lift station? Are these fees? 00:29:19
So it's a chicken and the egg like. 00:29:24
They got to get a fee payment commitment. 00:29:27
They may not. I can't speak for the Council, but. 00:29:30
I'm just bringing that up. 00:29:33
And I know we don't. 00:29:35
Own we the county? 00:29:37
We don't own that yet, right? No, we don't. So we wouldn't be responsible at this point. Somebody's got to whether that's in the 00:29:39
agreement. I'm just, I'm not trying to muddy the waters, but the prior development agreement, you mean with with Edwardsville, the 00:29:46
town, the town of Georgetown needs a commitment from somebody. 00:29:53
For them to give them some cover to move forward with these upfront expense, yeah, their bids would be good for 90 days. So 00:30:02
there's a window of time that it can be figured out. 00:30:06
Is it this board or is it the developer who needs to give that up? Sounds like something to talk about either before or during the 00:30:11
call. 00:30:15
I think it's something to talk about during the call. Yeah, somebody got to so the staff would look at it as it's a developer he 00:30:20
has, yeah. So we've. 00:30:24
They're aware of all those feats. 00:30:30
The developers because there was two parts. 00:30:31
Up to the development, there's the apartment piece and the school piece. 00:30:34
And the fees were split out for both, so he's aware of the overall number. 00:30:39
That makes sense. 00:30:45
And it's it's. 00:30:47
Not a small number. 00:30:48
Anyway. 00:30:52
I'm just bringing that up because we will need to discuss that with him. 00:30:55
And whenever we want to release, because I think we were going to put it on Mac to give us a draft bot agreement like Shireman 00:30:59
did. 00:31:03
Whenever we're ready to tell them to do that. 00:31:08
We probably need to get them to. I'll reach out to him today. Yeah, Yeah. Let me know what you want to do. I just. 00:31:10
That part I thought they had. Didn't they start one? 00:31:18
They they said they were going to start one. I don't think I ever got a draft. I haven't seen it. We had that temporary funding 00:31:22
agreement that this board approved, that approved for you to enter into negotiating, enter into a bot agreement and a temporary 00:31:28
funding. We did the temporary funding because we didn't have funds to enter into a. 00:31:33
The bot agreement yet, right? And we're still figuring that out, which is what we're doing. It is confusing because we have two 00:31:39
that are running not quite the same track and. 00:31:44
You know, we've they're in almost almost become entertained. They're overlapping to the extent of confusion. 00:31:50
You know, I mean, they're causing a little. So that's all. I just wanted to make clear what we're we're on the right same page 00:31:56
here. 00:31:59
I guess a little bit, maybe a little bit of direction for our meeting in terms of. 00:32:04
Worst position on the On the. 00:32:11
Capacity fees and if that's a, if that's just something you all want to entertain or if that's something that you feel like. 00:32:14
Would that help Justin? 00:32:23
No, I mean they are, but they are. Thoughts. 00:32:25
What are your thoughts on my question? 00:32:28
Staff is, I think that's a development fox. 00:32:31
I think all of it. 00:32:36
Sure, even even what's could you said there was two. Well, there's a component to the to the school, right. They're donating the 00:32:37
school and and how I would look at it as staff is that they're bringing it to the county something that's already set ready to be 00:32:44
occupied. And the reason the school has the reason the school has a capacity to do for sewer. It was never connected to sewer. 00:32:50
That old school was never never tied into the sewer system. 00:32:57
It has an on site. 00:33:05
Treatment system Septic. 00:33:07
Years ago. So it's never been tied in. That's why they have it. That's why there's a fee for that piece as well. 00:33:09
And we have a development agreement. So unless the development agreement says that we're responsible, I don't think it does. I 00:33:17
don't think it says we have. I'm just bringing up because there's got to be a, there's going to be a resolution of that issue. And 00:33:24
it does affect the project in terms of, of the, of the reason I say that is I know when they open bids tonight, I'm not going to 00:33:31
say what I think the number is here now because the bids aren't due till 6:30. 00:33:39
But these fees were were meant to pay. 00:33:46
Pay for that work. 00:33:49
You know, otherwise it sounds like I'm not gonna. Why would we do it? It's for this. 00:33:52
I would agree it has to be driven by the development in terms of the improvements to the sewer. OK, a point that you probably 00:33:58
already know. I. 00:34:02
Being that it's not in the agreement which. 00:34:08
It sounds like it's not. It looks like it's not. 00:34:11
Indicate if to me it indicates that it would be a developer issue and not a. Well, we'll bring it up for that. 00:34:14
That, that that's the point that I would make if I'm in your shoes. I just, I just wanna, I just wanna, I guess before I, I make a 00:34:20
statement, typically I wanna make sure I'm making a mistake if I'm the representative, right, Right. 00:34:27
It's not addressed in the agreement. So I think that's where we stand because it's the responsibility of the developer, OK. 00:34:38
And Bob, I think you got the last night I do so Facade Grant I was at. 00:34:46
Oh, what was that called? Billy, you're here. 5 star Galaxy, five stars. That what it was called. 00:34:53
Yeah. 00:35:01
They had a economic development. 00:35:02
Luncheon in Georgetown and the destination Georgetown. 00:35:06
Sponsored it. 00:35:10
Pretty well attended, but anyway, Curled oil with Polyfreeze came up to me, she says there's redevelopment. 00:35:11
Floyd County redevelopment? Do you have facade grants? 00:35:17
I said I think maybe we used to, but I don't know if we do. 00:35:20
So I want to bring that up because. 00:35:25
She would like to apply for a facade grant and I think if we don't have that program, maybe we ought to consider it. Thank you. 00:35:27
For existing businesses it's. 00:35:30
It'd be a good program. 00:35:35
And my thoughts were we have a revolving loan fund with a substantial dollar amount in it. 00:35:37
I don't see why we couldn't earmark. Part of that is a. 00:35:44
Facade Grant program and I don't know Don did we used to have one. 00:35:48
How we talked about it, OK. We never, we never, OK. 00:35:53
So. 00:35:58
I mean, I'm thinking we could just earmark some of that. 00:36:01
She she didn't even, she didn't even mention like. 00:36:05
We're looking to do acknowledges of improvement. She just said that we need to do some facade improvements and it would be helpful 00:36:08
if there was a program out there that could help me with that so. 00:36:13
I think, Don, maybe we could draft something to come back to this board with some thoughts or ideas on it. 00:36:20
Pros and cons to to it. 00:36:27
I mean if if it's. 00:36:29
I had to. I can't remember. 00:36:34
So most so most of them are not paying for all of it. No, it's only it's a small. 00:36:36
And then they get approved for some amount of funding with their estimates and then afterwards get reimbursed based on. 00:37:19
Trying to help be business friendly in the county. Yeah, no, I'm not. I'm just so I mean, I'm all for it because I mean, I know 00:37:27
what small businesses go through. Yeah, I wasn't I wasn't speaking negatively. I just was stopping at my lawyer role of here's the 00:37:34
the nuts and bolts of what happens normally done in some other place. 00:37:42
And now I think we have a grant program and, and I'm speaking Georgetown has one and, and it's exactly what Justin described. 00:37:50
Yeah, it's up to a dollar amount. They they have to show how they're going to use it. They have to show receipts. And it's yeah, 00:37:56
like the new. 00:38:02
And you think they may have a new little brewery coming in 30 facade Grant So is polyphrase asking or just the person that owns 00:38:10
Polyp is going she would like to ask for she don't follow. She wants to come in the hassle pilot freeze. 00:38:17
In the TIF district, and in fact, that's what I was saying. 00:38:26
You're spending on TIF money. This is revolving loans. You'd be administering it for the county commissioners because it's 00:38:32
ancillary to, it's not, it's not specific to it. It's it's kind of ancillary to what you guys do. So you're administrating it. 00:38:37
It's not actually a redevelopment tiff. 00:38:42
Just thought about and they're usually a cabinet. 00:38:51
Usually the cap is fairly modest. 00:38:54
You could, I mean, you could say I'm looking to add a couple of employees, but my resources are stretched so thin. I can't even I 00:38:57
can't do both. I mean, I'm not saying that's you have to have that. You may just want to circulate the what other. 00:39:04
Yeah. And if you have examples you could share with us that would just so people could ask questions and see. But I I'd like to 00:39:12
report back to Carol that, hey, we are looking at it. We'll bring it up at our next meeting with some drafts. 00:39:18
Further discuss. 00:39:24
Because we do, we do have the, we do have funds that I feel like we could earmark some of those monies. 00:39:26
You know, maybe just. 00:39:33
Have a small budget each year. 00:39:35
People can tap into. I think it's I think it's a good idea. I'd like yeah, I like this details of how others do it, get a little 00:39:37
bit more familiar with it. That's all I had on that. I just, you know, I just want it. I think it's it's good. We help promote 00:39:43
existing businesses. We're trying to help them and be. 00:39:49
As friendly as we can, you know. 00:39:55
So no. 00:39:58
There was one item. There's some engagement letters for finalizing the buy. 00:40:00
Do we have the romp crow? I believe that. 00:40:07
That you should. 00:40:10
And if. 00:40:14
Probably. 00:40:20
Well, I don't think I've seen them either. OK, so you want to just can we entertain a motion to for you to review, approve the 00:40:22
engagement letters with engagement letter or letters, letters with Crow contingent upon legal and legal review? 00:40:32
Allow me to sign it outside of the meeting. Do you want any details of what it is? Is it a flat fee? Is it a, is it hourly? If you 00:40:43
want to give details, I would love to know some details because I don't, I don't know. I don't know what I'm voting for and when 00:40:50
it comes to attorneys or engagement letters, I need to know. 00:40:57
They are for the issuance of bonds on the Edwardsville project and the. 00:41:05
Red wire, red wire. Thank you. I couldn't think of red wire red wire project only because we had code names. Are they flat fees? 00:41:16
Are they variable? They have they're hourly with a not to exceed. 00:41:23
And they are all payable from bond proceeds at the time of closing. 00:41:31
Are the three votes needed on this one? 00:41:36
For engagement letter No. 00:41:39
No. How many votes are needed for this? 00:41:41
To approve engagement letter just just to simple majority. Yeah. What I'm saying. Oh, you lost 10. He's making it. Yeah, I see. Is 00:41:43
that a motion to thank you? Sorry. So if I hold out, it's that emotion to approve. I'm a little slow with your humor this morning. 00:41:49
Either that or it's not good humor. I don't know. That's that's subjective. I mean, I'm not making it a legal opinion on that, but 00:41:55
that is totally subjective. Yeah. 00:42:01
Do I have a motion to approve? 00:42:11
Someone. Anyone. 00:42:13
This needs to be done. 00:42:19
Yes, because we have to proceed, we have to get the bombs moving on that and that's part of the schedule. If you looked at our. 00:42:20
Put it away as the overall schedule that you see. 00:42:28
Has anybody seen them with butters? Apparently they're in my e-mail and so. 00:42:32
But I'm going to forward them around there once so. 00:42:38
Yeah, well. 00:42:41
So I understand, I respect the process of of you, Bill Bob. 00:42:44
And and Justin to look it over before it goes forward. So I'll make a motion to approve the engagement letters plural and sign 00:42:49
outside and allow Bob to sign outside the meeting with the contingency of of the review of those by Bob and Justin. 00:42:58
A second motion made second any further discussion. 00:43:08
All those in favor say aye aye and I'll get those out right away. 00:43:13
Sorry about that. Oh, I'm sure. 00:43:18
I'm sure I have it. 00:43:22
Yeah, I'm sure I do. 00:43:25
OK. Anything else done for the good of the order? 00:43:28
No, nothing else. We'll entertain a motion to adjourn. 00:43:33
I just want to know if my humor is. 00:43:36
Fantastic. Good or not good? 00:43:39
Squeeze a jello. 00:43:46
I'll make a motion to adjourn. 00:43:49
Second, all in favor say aye. We're adjourned. Thank you. 00:43:51
Uh, right, I had Bill White on them. At least I didn't use the Mike Tyson punch him in the face, did we? We had that one before I 00:43:55
forgot to use that one. 00:44:00
Mike Tyson, everybody has a plan. 00:44:06
We were. 00:44:19
You missed the zinger. 00:44:24
We almost had to pick him up off the floor. 00:44:47
I've outlawed it. 00:44:51
I wish that is. 00:44:53
Sorry. 00:44:56
I was trying to stay ahead of it for you. 00:44:58
It's there's so much going on. 00:45:00
Thank you. 00:45:03
So. 00:45:13
Let me look at these, I need to sign them. 00:45:15
Gotcha. 00:45:28
But they own it as a separate corporation. As a non union separate entity they get first right refusal basically. 00:45:41
Gotcha. 00:45:50
Chill. 00:45:51
These are some because for years they wanted to go this, they wanted to take the story, but there's nothing. 00:45:54
Which honestly? 00:46:09
This would work much better for their traffic. 00:46:12
It's not the easiest thing. 00:46:18
Well, this I'm trying to get some perspective here. So this, this the front, the front, there's the goodwill. 00:46:23
Yeah, OK, so top company and all that stuff. So we just you come off 150, what I was looking for come off 150 when you turn here, 00:46:28
that is a death trap. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. It's a it's a funky little. So going to get. So that's going to be gone. 00:46:33
We're going to move the whole thing. How big is this? 00:46:39
Let's see, they're saying that's 100. 00:46:45
Wow more than double it's more than it's like 50 ish and. 00:46:49
This is just one of those old style stores, which is fine. 00:46:56
It's just not big enough. 00:47:00
Build the needs of the community, you know, it's like you know, we run the JC to get quickly things. I'm not a Kroger for our 00:47:02
makers. 00:47:05
They they don't have to wear out so that the State Street Kroger, that's not too close to build a big sign. 00:47:11
They said it's. 00:47:20
Well. 00:47:23
It's getting harder and harder. 00:47:26
That's another thing too they're trying to make. 00:47:30
That shopping experience better from people that are wanting to go there, right? 00:47:32
Because it it, that place gets crazy. It does, it does. And then the traffic sucks traffic. Oh, sure, all this stuff. 00:47:37
Is that what this is he just gave me? Oh, yeah, yeah. 00:47:46
I got your e-mail on our. 00:47:54
Oh yeah, I think. 00:47:56
To me, you've seen it, you not even thought about. 00:47:59
I I was gonna pull up Google Earth and they drive those. I'm just gonna pull it up Street View. I mean, you can bring some if you 00:48:05
want. I was thinking about two couple shots and e-mail them to you. You can pull up what it actually means. Yeah, because I was 00:48:12
gonna do the same thing. But we're just Google Earth. So to do something like that sounds good to me. Obviously, we've had that 00:48:18
for 25 years. 00:48:25
Within the next year or two, we will apply we. 00:48:32
We got delayed on our current funding because we got a grant right now through the state. The CMG is community crossings matching 00:48:37
grant C. 00:48:41
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