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Previous discussions we will bring to order the March 12th, 2024 meeting at the Floyd County Council. Please stand. 00:00:00
For the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:09
Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, 00:00:11
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:17
Let the record show that we have a full form tonight. 00:00:32
Mr. Bagshaw, would you leave us in prayer, please? Yeah, let's pray. Oh, heaven and Father, we thank you as always, that we're. 00:00:35
Live in America. We have freedom and liberty that we can meet in public meetings like this. We acknowledge that there's places on 00:00:42
this world that. 00:00:46
It's not so. So we always want to be grateful for our freedom and liberty. Lord, please be with us tonight. Give us knowledge and 00:00:50
wisdom so that we can make prudent choices for the. 00:00:56
Citizens of our. 00:01:02
Laura, always want to ask that you protect our Soldiers, sailors and Airmen Marine as they defend freedom around the world. Please 00:01:04
protect our first responders. Keep them safe as they keep us safe. 00:01:10
And oh God, I pray for a piece of Jerusalem today in your name. Amen. Thank you for that. 00:01:15
Everybody, the chance to review the agenda for tonight. We had a couple of revisions, but I think we've been good for the last. 00:01:23
Couple days. 00:01:29
Motion to accept. 00:01:33
Motion and acceptance to. 00:01:35
Or motion and a second to accept tonight's agenda. 00:01:37
Any discussion? 00:01:41
All in favor, Say aye. 00:01:43
Any opposed? 00:01:45
That carries the approval of minutes from the February 13th council meeting. Move to approve second. Have motion second for the 00:01:48
approval of previous minutes, any discussion. 00:01:54
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed that carries. 00:02:00
Public input. 00:02:06
All right. Seeing none, we'll move on. 00:02:10
Old Business Community Foundation Board of Directors. Nomination. 00:02:13
I believe this is basically a formality. We had one. 00:02:18
With one resume submitted, commissioners have voted. 00:02:22
If there is no other. 00:02:29
Nominees from Anyone make a Motion to. 00:02:31
To reaffirm, I mean or you know we did this once already, but to to put Jeff Lilly forward. 00:02:35
2nd We have motion A Second for the Community Foundation Board nomination. 00:02:41
Any discussion? 00:02:47
All in favor, Say aye. 00:02:49
Any opposed? 00:02:52
That carries. 00:02:54
New business Judge Granger. 00:02:56
Good evening and thank you. I'm Maria Grazer for Floyd's Fair Court 3 have one and one B1A essentially is a request to for an 00:03:02
additional appropriation from grant funds that were unused that we have been authorized to utilize to help with. 00:03:11
Some peer support recovery assistance for our participants in the HOPE or the family recovery problem solving port. So those two 00:03:21
items are going to be attached to that fund 9175. 00:03:28
One will be the contract that peer support recovery and then to assist with some transportation for participants to get to and 00:03:35
from appointments and things like that. So that's 1A. 00:03:41
And 1B is in reference to the Commercial Court. 00:03:48
It's funds through the Supreme Court, so I guess it's a grant, but it's just to supply the commercial court clerk we have 00:03:53
requested out of the insurance money that's going to be unused for the cycle to utilize that to help reimburse the clerk. 00:04:02
For expenses for travel and training that they have to do motion for 1A and B. Second we have a motion for 1A and 1B. Any 00:04:12
discussion? 00:04:17
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? 00:04:25
That carries. Appreciate it very much. Thank you. Thank you, Lois. Interest. 00:04:28
OK. 00:04:45
OK, Darius, is he not here? 00:04:50
Oh, Mr. Randall gave me a call in the office today. He was not going to be able to make it this evening. 00:04:53
His request is to a it's just for an additional appropriation for travel and training. 00:05:01
Move to approve to a second. 00:05:09
Motion and a second for 2A. Any discussion. 00:05:11
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? 00:05:16
That carries. Thank you. 00:05:19
Lois, sorry about that. 00:05:22
I'm here to request appropriation so that I can pay certain bills that are designated to be paid out of the Enhanced Access 00:05:28
Payment. 00:05:33
Motion for three eight second. 00:05:38
We have a motion and a second for 3A. Any discussion. 00:05:41
What is enhanced access where people subscribe and are? 00:05:46
Vendor gets a portion of it. 00:05:52
That I have to pay them a month. 00:05:54
Any further discussion? 00:05:59
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? 00:06:00
That carries. Thank you. 00:06:03
Mr. Chairman, I have #4. Kent is unable to be here tonight. He did reach out to me. This is just a LEPC grant. It's just to 00:06:05
appropriate that grant as advertised. 00:06:11
And I'll make a motion for that for a. 00:06:19
2nd we have a motion and a second for 4A any discussion. 00:06:21
Hearing none. All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? 00:06:28
That carries. 00:06:33
Five Mr. Donlop. 00:06:34
Good evening. First item I have is a request for additional appropriation of the GIS Fund. 00:06:46
It's 9113000400004 for the Public GIS system for $3800. The rationale behind that is there's additional work that has to be done 00:06:52
before the GIS consultancy interface with the new auditor software for the Public GIS Board. 00:07:01
Motion to Approve 5/8. 00:07:11
I have a motion and 2nd for 5A. Any discussion on GIS? 00:07:14
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? 00:07:19
That carries BB is a DE obligation of $200,000 out of the edit from the edit fund putting that back and unappropriated cash that's 00:07:22
coming out of 111200 zero 4020 which was the Geo loan. 00:07:30
Motion for 5B as in boy. 00:07:41
I'll second that. We have a motion in a second for 5B. Any discussion? 00:07:45
I was curious, was this the funds that the Commissioners had designated for the Council previously? 00:07:50
Yes, and now you're all rescinding that officially, right? 00:07:56
We're putting 200 hundred thousand back back into an appropriated cash. 00:08:01
I just don't know why we won't accept that when we know we've got all these other. 00:08:05
Obligations to the county. Plus, in addition to that, sheriff's asking for quite a bit of money for a couple projects. 00:08:12
I just think we preparation is just for the Geo bond, it's not just for the County Council at large. 00:08:18
It is for dedicated fund for the general obligation bond. 00:08:26
It's not $200,000 just to spend on any council. 00:08:31
Right. But you're taking it away from us. 00:08:36
Officially, we're not. We're not going to get access to those funds by doing this. 00:08:38
I guess Don, what you're saying is this is this is edit funds that were dedicated for Geo bond, yes, we don't. 00:08:45
The council doesn't. 00:08:50
Necessarily have. 00:08:51
Edit Funds. We don't have a A. 00:08:53
Funds we use in edit. 00:08:56
No, but they had committed them to us at budget time. 00:08:58
For the GM bond. 00:09:02
Is it? I ask you, is this part of that? And I thought you said yes. 00:09:04
Excuse me, I asked you earlier, is this part of this not, I understand you said yes. I said yes, it's it's for the Geo. Geo bond 00:09:08
that's part of the council. 00:09:12
But it's not part of the repayment to the council. 00:09:18
It's my understanding was the repayment was not going to be. 00:09:21
Request is that now, not the. 00:09:27
That's my understanding from the Commissioners of the. 00:09:30
The repayment, repayment of whatever bond. 00:09:32
Is being paid out of the funds that are being. 00:09:37
You you have a. 00:09:45
You have a fund. 00:09:46
That you are. 00:09:50
Gaining taxes. 00:09:52
To pay for the bond. 00:09:54
This was additional monies that. 00:09:57
Worse in some type of decision that. 00:09:59
We were repainting it. 00:10:03
This guy, this you aren't. You have funds that you pay the bond off. 00:10:08
Because you kept the tax rate the same. 00:10:13
So this is additional money. 00:10:21
Money went to the commissioners for capital improvement projects because we authorized that with the agreement to pay it back and 00:10:24
you all rescinded that. 00:10:28
That was my understanding, how it wasn't there. It wasn't approved. That's my understanding of it. 00:10:31
You said the rationale behind the doing the bond was to keep the tax rate the same. 00:10:36
If you didn't keep the tax rate the same. 00:10:41
If you didn't do the bonds, the tax levy. 00:10:44
The tax rate would have went down. 00:10:47
Is that correct? 00:10:51
And if the tax rate went down, what would that have been for the citizens of Floyd County? 00:10:53
Their taxes were damn. 00:10:59
I've got it on my cell phone from the May 13th. 00:11:01
Joint meeting last year when John Schoenberger acknowledged that 500,000 is designated for the council issue of use for anything 00:11:05
else. 00:11:08
And that's from that meeting. 00:11:13
Board can work and do whatever they wish. This is a request to be obligated funds. 00:11:18
I don't think we should be doing it. 00:11:24
The repayment on it go bonds. It comes from a debt service. 00:11:27
OK. It's getting paid out of that. 00:11:32
It's not being paid out of this, OK And again. 00:11:34
I reminded you all, is that man. 00:11:37
You all approached us on this. 00:11:39
Is that this? 00:11:42
That money went to a fund for capital projects. 00:11:43
And then we were going to then take that money to another fund. 00:11:48
If you use those for capital project, it was not going back to the County Council. There's been nothing to document. That's not 00:11:52
what you said on this video. Got all the minutes the May 13th meeting, it's in there from the Joint Commission Council meeting. 00:11:57
And it's your statement. No one else encouraged you to say that. 00:12:05
There's been so many times, so many emails that I've sent out. 00:12:08
Document that. That would not be an attempt, giving money back to the council for them to use the general plan to get the 00:12:12
intention. 00:12:16
Don. 00:12:26
What is the? 00:12:28
The the estimated budgeted amount versus revenue versus expenses in the edit fund at the end of the year, is it? 00:12:30
Is it underwater? Right at about 40 now about $44,000. 00:12:37
To the negative deposit. 00:12:44
And that's including this or not including that's not included. 00:12:46
She never will be at 2:40. 00:12:51
So this will make it 2:44 to the good. 00:12:55
Yes. 00:12:57
Are there projects? 00:13:00
But the 200,000 are is going towards. 00:13:02
At this point in time. 00:13:07
No, but you got to realize that for the past three years. 00:13:09
The utility line item has been asked the stat at $200,000. 00:13:12
Utilities are usually at the end of the year we're we're transferring money over to pay for those utilities. 00:13:17
But it's always been asked. 00:13:23
To keep the keep the items in the budget flat. 00:13:26
So you know, everyone else is everyone's utilities is raised. 00:13:32
So you know. 00:13:37
I believe we have a motion in a second. Let me, I'll just stay, just make a statement. 00:13:48
I It's been so much conjecture and talk. 00:13:54
I thought the intent was something else. 00:13:57
Going forward? 00:14:00
This body and the commissioner's body need to get it in writing to see. 00:14:02
How bugs are going? Tricky transfer back and forth. That's that's just a statement. I think that's one of them. I think that's a. 00:14:07
I think that that would help solve issues like this, yes. OK, that's just a statement. 00:14:14
Just because this is D appropriated to A to a bond does not mean the money is spent. It's still there. 00:14:21
If you if you de obligate these funds, they go back to cash on hand. 00:14:28
Which means they just sit there until the county commissioners come back to you and ask for an additional appropriation for those 00:14:35
funds. 00:14:39
So I guess what I'm getting at is, is it's appropriated to pay for a bond. Is that correct? 00:14:44
As it stands right now, however convoluted that Geo Bond was, and I personally believe it was very complicated. 00:14:49
That was what was directed. 00:14:58
To put in for the Geo bond. 00:15:02
Back in August and September when the budgets. 00:15:05
So I'm trying to get to Mr. Freiburgers point of. 00:15:09
Even if it's deappropriated in this line item. 00:15:12
That discussion can still happen. 00:15:16
Between Council and Commissioners regarding. 00:15:19
Whether it goes wherever it would go. 00:15:22
It's just being taken out of the Geo bond line item. 00:15:27
It's still there. It's cash. 00:15:33
I mean, are you going to follow that money then? 00:15:36
Going to keep track of it when you going to know they're applying for it. 00:15:39
We keep it here, we know exactly where it's at, where it would go and we go on unincorporated cash on hand in the edit. 00:15:42
And if they want to spend it, they have assets in the unappropriated cash on hand. 00:15:49
The county commissioners cannot use those funds until they come back before this body and ask for an additional appropriation. 00:15:54
So tracking the funds, if that's a concern of yours, they just go back to the cash on hand in the fund? 00:16:02
I think the bigger. 00:16:12
Overarching theme here is. 00:16:14
Nobody's on the same page as how? 00:16:18
Deal was supposed to work out. 00:16:21
And to me, that's a. 00:16:24
That's a bigger issue that needs to be settled. 00:16:27
Then then where this money is right now, I agree that I mean we're going to appropriate it. 00:16:32
But. 00:16:37
The theme. 00:16:42
Cooperation and how this deal was supposed to work. 00:16:44
Has not been adhered to. 00:16:47
So we have some work to do to settle that issue. 00:16:48
Going forward? 00:16:52
Let me know the discussion on this. 00:16:55
Well, I think to your point, it's what Dale said, we need to put things in writing and have resolutions in hand that define how 00:16:57
things are going to happen. But you said this go bond was, you know. 00:17:03
Messy. I forgot what the word you what you you convoluted. 00:17:11
And and it was, but it did not need to be. It could have been very straightforward. I. 00:17:16
But yeah, I'll just, I'll just leave it at that. We need to put things in writing on a go forward basis. I need to be at 00:17:24
resolutions. 00:17:28
Call for the vote all in favor. 00:17:33
Aye, all opposed. 00:17:38
But that carries 4/3. 00:17:40
Item C. 00:17:45
IMC is additional preparation out of 9130 Fund which is Commissioners Capital Projects 9191 Thirty 00 Zero 4009 Capital and 00:17:47
Economic Development. 00:17:53
Motion to approve second. 00:18:02
We have a motion a second for item C any discussion. 00:18:05
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? 00:18:10
C carries D. 00:18:13
DA's request for a new line item in 9147000300001 Building Capital Security and 91470003000 O2 Cybersecurity. These are LATCF. 00:18:15
Funds. These are funds that are part of the American rescue plan, but if they're actually separate, they are a. 00:18:29
What's called a? 00:18:36
We're in here, correct? Hey. 00:18:39
I like better term. It's kind of basically there's a formula that each community that they met certain criterias in terms of 00:18:47
population as they call it a formula formula grant. So there's $100,000 the county received, it is it is in that fund. 00:18:54
And county's commissioners and operations asking for what's the cybersecurity and the captain building security out there. 00:19:02
Motion to Approve Bobby Second. 00:19:10
Motion is second for five. D oh geez. Sorry for 5D to create line items. Any discussion. 00:19:13
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed that carries. 00:19:23
Motion to Approve Bobby Second. 00:19:27
We have a motion. In a second I've got a. 00:19:30
Question is the cyber security for the penetration test? 00:19:32
Cyber for those items that were. 00:19:37
Part of the budget cut that was done in October, so it's so it covers those. 00:19:40
I believe that is part. 00:19:47
That was what was cut out of the budget that you agreed to pick up the cyber security, the building capital security. Can you what 00:19:50
are their cameras or what are they actually it's we had an analysis by the by members of a member of SWAT. 00:19:57
Who came in and had a security meeting I believe. 00:20:05
Even they talked with the auditor and other departments and buildings. This is part of our program. 00:20:08
In terms of hardening our facilities, so. 00:20:16
That we basically capital to improve our entrances. 00:20:20
And our windows. 00:20:24
From that analysis, OK. OK, down at the. 00:20:26
Down at down at the rice building in here. 00:20:30
OK. Thank you. 00:20:33
Any further discussion on East? 00:20:36
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? 00:20:39
That carries FF is 91520004000 one. 00:20:42
Is for park improvements. It's 150,000 and 915-2000. Maybe 12900400002 commissioners capital these are. 00:20:49
Reallocation of funds that came from reimbursements grants that we we had last year back into the bond fund and that's being 00:21:00
reallocated for. 00:21:06
That's going for the Southern Indiana Sports Center. 00:21:13
And for the commissioners we're looking at. 00:21:17
Issues regarding boiler and the chiller here. 00:21:20
Boiler act Rice and the children move to approve 5F second. 00:21:23
Motion and a second for 5F any discussion. 00:21:30
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed that carries. 00:21:35
GG is a request for additional appropriation from 1176 five 3/1/2022 for salt $175,000. 00:21:39
So moved. 00:21:48
Tracking motion in a second for line item G, any discussion, it's just to pay for what's the balance due this. They thought we 00:21:50
paid for that in advance. No, we do not pay that in advance. We pay that as the year goes through. So this is our 80%. We are part 00:21:56
of the state contract other communities. 00:22:02
We pay both treated and untreated salt. 00:22:09
We have to take a minimum of 80% of what we. 00:22:12
What we contract for and we contract in March actually are. 00:22:15
2024-2025. 00:22:20
Allocation is due next week. 00:22:22
And that's what this is paying for. This is paying for 2020. 00:22:24
Last year into this year. 00:22:28
Any further discussion? 00:22:33
All in favor, Say aye, aye. Any opposed? 00:22:36
That carries H. 00:22:39
Anxious 11730000 zero 3074 Professional services 125,000 and 1173000300002 paving. 00:22:42
Professional services are for construction. 00:22:53
Inspection for end up projects which our engineers. 00:22:57
Not certified to do. 00:23:03
And so that is Charlestown Road and open sends and State Road 64. 00:23:05
And then the 150,000 is? 00:23:10
We're paving as part of our local match for our Community crossings matching paper. 00:23:14
Motion to Approve. 00:23:21
That's like have a motion and a second for 5H. Any discussion, I have a question. 00:23:23
I don't. I've had a few inquiries from constituents that. 00:23:30
Wanted to know if there is a way they could find either county, website or other form. 00:23:34
On a list of paving. 00:23:40
Roads for, you know, 2024, you know, as far as priority, what's planned for this year, what's planned for next year, so on and so 00:23:43
forth. 00:23:47
We should have that list I could sign on the website I know we're working on. 00:23:53
Actually having a update to our website, actually trying to get in a little bit more detail, but I can make if you have those 00:23:57
folks names, we'll pass those along, we'll make sure that they absolutely I'll follow up with you and. 00:24:04
And I'll make sure if it's not on the website that some of the homeowners associations have reached out and some of the 00:24:11
subdivisions or the road, if it's not the subdivision Rd. but the road, the main road, that's that, I'll follow up with you for 00:24:15
sure. 00:24:19
Any further discussion on H? 00:24:26
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? 00:24:29
That carries aye aye is 116900 zero 4024 paving. 00:24:33
So moved. 00:24:41
Zagat Motion is second for item I any discussion. 00:24:43
Yeah we didn't have a paving line in local road and St. Oh we did but we didn't have funds for the for the grant this falls our 00:24:47
our grant funds OK, I thought that was a little weird paving and. 00:24:54
We do. We have a miscellaneous painting. OK. 00:25:02
Any further discussion on? 00:25:06
Aye, all in favor. Say aye. Any opposed? 00:25:08
That carries. 00:25:13
11760004000 and 24 is for $150,000 for this is the second part of the match for our community crossings. So moved. 00:25:15
Second motion and 2nd for Jay Any discussion. 00:25:25
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? 00:25:29
That carries. 00:25:32
OK 9191620004000 Three of Vincent Rd. Highlander Point in 91620004000 Reform N Tucker Rd. Line items for two construction 00:25:34
projects. 00:25:42
So moved second motion and 2nd for the mine items. Any discussion? 00:25:52
All in favor say aye. Any opposed K carries aye I mean L Sorry 9162000400003 Open Sims Row 1,400,091 Sixty 2000400004 N Tucker Rd. 00:25:57
700,000. 00:26:07
Motion to approve is advertised second. 00:26:18
Motion in a second for L discussion. 00:26:21
I have one question. Where did the 6,000,000 come from? That's the balance in that account. That's the county, road and bridge 00:26:23
bond from 2020. 00:26:27
That's a bond that we collected. The money we collected we got the money from a bond. This is yeah. This is proceeds from the bond 00:26:33
that are. It's a revenue bond that's being paid from. 00:26:39
Local local road and streets and from motor vehicle restrictions. OK, OK. 00:26:45
So this oh Vincent Rd. Highland Pontiac is going to finish. 00:26:51
Opens and wrote 150 or strapo. 00:26:55
It will go from just short of Daffy back to Tuscany. 00:26:58
For for phase three and that should finish at that. That's a project that started in 2002. There's been 3 phases of it, 2002 is. 00:27:03
The lane improvements and lighting at the Floyd Central section. 00:27:12
2015 was from just Pebble Creek subdivision to Reflection Ridge subdivision. That was where the. 00:27:18
Intersection at Luther was redone. 00:27:29
And actually that that dip was taken out of the. 00:27:31
Of the Black Valley. So this, this face. Refinish it to finish. 00:27:35
Is a component of the state and that intersection. 00:27:44
Any other discussion? Yeah, how long or I guess how soon would the construction on opens end start? 00:27:52
All Vincents is going to be a two season project. 2024 will be June through September thirty 30th. 00:27:58
Be phase one that would be widening 3 lane that's a three lanes that section. 00:28:08
The storm water in in line. Storm water improvements, moving utilities. 00:28:15
RMC is going to be burying. 00:28:20
Electrical lines as well during that component and then season 2 would start July or June 1 and should. 00:28:22
Be done by August of 25. 00:28:29
So Commissioners wanted to try to do that in times where it would lessen the effect. 00:28:32
By the school year. Thank you. 00:28:38
Any further discussion? 00:28:42
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed L carries them. 00:28:44
Yeah, 113500 zero 4070 Rich 51 right away 50,000 and this is? 00:28:50
For the Blacksonville Road right away. Legal. Legal. 00:28:59
Legal title searches and items associated with right away acquisition. 00:29:05
So moved motion and a second for him any discussion. So then there will be another item for actual acquisition. 00:29:11
Later said this is for the engineering and. 00:29:20
Survey work. 00:29:24
Well the property this don't pay the property owners right no we have we we will have a line item for that be a reimbursable grant 00:29:25
through kept. 00:29:30
Where we pay up the cost and then we get 80% of that back through when we pay the property owners and I that will go on. 00:29:35
Throughout the summer. So I would say sometime probably in May, I'll be back probably to set those line items. I guess another 00:29:46
question, a legitimate question, is there a time frame when we could be driving on a new bridge? 00:29:51
35 years 2:00 to 4:00. 00:29:59
One to three, I mean, because we, if anybody pays attention to social media, that bridge is probably on there three times a week. 00:30:01
It's it's a bridge that I can I can give you where we are currently and where are the schedules. 00:30:09
And where we are currently is we're finishing up the environmental. 00:30:17
Environmental assessment, it actually is in its. 00:30:23
Should be going to federal highways for its final approval. 00:30:27
Knock on wood on that one. 00:30:30
But it has went back to him, not so. We're very close there, finally. 00:30:32
Then right away, we'll start. 00:30:37
Some of that's already started, some free work already started, so right away acquisition during 2024. 00:30:41
We have construction, it's in fiscal year 2026 that is actually July of 2025. 00:30:48
So the goal is that start construction in July, August of 2025. 00:30:55
It would probably take an entire season or more. So you're looking. 00:31:00
Do you want the first one to drive over and I'd say 2020, I would like to be able to testify, I can. I can assure you we're going 00:31:04
to, you'll see construction starting at 25. 00:31:09
That's that's probably that is targeted. Yeah. But this this is a project. Actually, I I when I started here almost 20 years ago 00:31:16
it was a project Gordon Martin was working on. So some things, the wills of government building bridges go slow. 00:31:24
The only other call I get is about Charlestown Rd. walking path. 00:31:35
I got some news to share with you on that too. 00:31:40
We should, we will let that project through NDOT July of 2024. 00:31:44
We will have. 00:31:51
Construction will be actually in dot is going to have construction. We were at 8020, we're now at 100% through N dot. 00:31:55
And 90% of the construction inspections, so. 00:32:03
Our contribution will be somewhere around hopefully, well, yes, very small. We'll just go very small until we get the actual SO 00:32:08
shovels in the ground. 00:32:13
I'd say shelves in the ground would probably be. 00:32:19
September probably after they go through their. 00:32:22
It's lat. They have 30 days. They do three times. So that'd be August. Yeah, it's. 00:32:26
So we have a motion second anymore discussion on M. 00:32:32
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? 00:32:37
That carries. Thank you. Thank you. 00:32:40
Prosecutor Chris Lane. 00:32:43
Sure should be enough for a part. Thank you. 00:32:51
For the Council. 00:32:58
Come before you. 00:33:00
In a way that I wasn't expecting. Or do I enjoy being here particularly? 00:33:05
Clark County. 00:33:11
And I've got it as a package. Go around and wait till Jim gets the last copy. I think I sent everyone too, but I want to make sure 00:33:13
you have a hand copy. 00:33:16
This is a breakdown of the salary adjustments by Clark County last year to the budget the end of the year. We were not aware of 00:33:20
this I think when we passed our budget, but at the end of the year. 00:33:25
They dramatically increased all of their prosecutor line items. 00:33:31
So they currently employ 15 prosecutors. 00:33:36
They have five first deputies. They've been raised to 105. They have 5 second deputies. They've been raised to 100,000. 00:33:40
They have third deputy at 95. 00:33:47
1/4 deputy in 93 and a fifth deputy at 90. Then of course it elected in the chief deputy. 00:33:50
On the other side, I've shown ours. 00:33:57
Ours were highly competitive up until the end of the year. 00:34:00
When they dramatically. 00:34:04
Dramatically move this up. 00:34:06
Why they did it, I'm sure they had a variety of reasons. I think they were having employee retention, they were down multiple. 00:34:09
Prosecutors. 00:34:16
Quite frankly, I think their court system might be a bit more chaotic than ours. I think we run a very good court system over 00:34:18
here. I'll make no. 00:34:21
Aspersions toward them. I would just think that it's been a harder retention Rd. for them than us. 00:34:27
So I think we've run a very good courthouse. 00:34:31
Ports, PD and the prosecutor, so that helps with retention. 00:34:35
But when they dramatically race it, it's created an imbalance. 00:34:41
So the county. 00:34:45
5 to 10 miles away from here now pays. 00:34:47
105. 00:34:49
For 86. 00:34:51
Now you'll see second, third lead misdemeanor. The duties of the first deputies are their major felony. Our second deputy is a 00:34:53
major felony. 00:34:57
3rd Deputy is a major felony. 00:35:02
Our lead misdemeanor is equivalent to their second deputy who handles their misdemeanor in Level 6 traffic. 00:35:04
If you break these down. 00:35:12
The inequity. 00:35:14
You can compensate for five or 6000, but when people have families it's hard to compensate for 20,000 with a good work 00:35:15
environment. 00:35:18
But that's it. 00:35:23
Oh, and I've also attached, you'll see that there it's a print out of their actual budget, so you can see it. They pay from 00:35:25
different line items much like I think we do now due to the judicial lift. So you have to add those. So they may not look like it, 00:35:29
but take your time if you feel the need. 00:35:34
You'll see that they do add up to those numbers. 00:35:39
Knowing that you. 00:35:46
And I heard what Jim said last year when I came about the car. His concern was how are we going to do something if we don't cut 00:35:48
Danny's concern in the paper reading the article that at some point we have to bite the bullet. 00:35:54
So if I came here asking for 52,000 from your general fund, I can understand that that wouldn't work. 00:36:01
Generally, I don't think this has been done, but by statute we have a diversion fund. 00:36:06
Now, the diversion fund currently. 00:36:12
Tammy, I want to make sure I say this correct, but the diversion fund currently has. 00:36:14
Approximately. 00:36:22
You attach for them, correct? 00:36:24
They're right here. Oh, thank you, Mr. Lane. Can you give me the phone number? 00:36:26
105,000. 00:36:31
$5409.19. 00:36:34
The raises with benefits, I think this year. 00:36:38
Not retro. I'm not asking a retro that would start. 00:36:40
When appropriate would be taken out of that. 00:36:44
I anticipate that be about $52,000 or about half of it. 00:36:47
I think it's a sacrifice worth making to keep us competitive. 00:36:53
Now the numbers. 00:36:57
We would be asking. 00:36:59
That two of our second. 00:37:02
And 3rd deputies would go up to 97.5. You'll notice they're not. We're not trying to eat Clark County dead, they're at 105. We 00:37:04
would still be about 7500 below. 00:37:08
I factor in that we have a longevity that they don't have, so there is a reward if you stay. 00:37:14
So I'm not trying to keep pace, I'm not trying to beat them. I'm just trying to stay in the ballpark about 5 to 7% less. 00:37:19
You'll notice. So we're asking the second deputy 97597 five on the 3rd, I believe. 00:37:27
We're asking the 4th and 5th deputy go up to 87.5. 00:37:34
And then we're asking that our. 00:37:38
Lead misdemeanor I believe go up to 9. 00:37:41
Now, I may have gotten those reversed a bit, but those are the general 9090 seven 597-580-7587 five. 00:37:44
So we're keeping each one lower than Clark. I know. 00:37:53
I'm asked and I'm under no illusions. I'm covering it this year. I cannot commit to you that I can cover it every year. 00:37:57
It'll be a discussion October, September. 00:38:04
I asked to stay competitive. 00:38:10
I don't ask to be. 00:38:11
I don't even ask to match. I just need to stay competitive and I'm not asking you to take it out of your general budget because I 00:38:13
know. 00:38:16
I know you're struggling. 00:38:19
Said it. 00:38:20
And I've heard what Danny said. 00:38:22
I've heard what all of you said, so that would. 00:38:24
Be my coverage to do through the version, and I've heard you talk about those accounts quite often. 00:38:27
We'll undo it this year to cover it. 00:38:33
October we can talk again. I can't promise that I can self fund other every year by any means. So it'd be a discussion later. The 00:38:35
other adjustment we'd ask is that went by real fast. Do you say you couldn't commit to doing that after this year? I can't commit 00:38:41
to every year Jim, because it's it's through diversion fees, diversion fees are. 00:38:48
Through diversions on traffic tickets and diversions of cases that are nonviolent, low level offenders that we deem appropriate. I 00:38:56
don't want to tie. 00:39:01
A fund into that because that would feel. 00:39:07
Financial We don't want to get into a situation where I'm having to match something. 00:39:12
In order to divert people that may not be appropriate to divert. So I don't want to commit to do it every year. I can't commit to 00:39:17
do it every year. 00:39:21
I I'm open to a discussion at the time. They certainly have that. If we get into that, that could be a problem. 00:39:24
And I will not feel comfortable. 00:39:31
So very open with you. 00:39:32
Discovered this year, and it's a discussion that we'll have. 00:39:34
I have a question. 00:39:40
How many courts does Clark County have? 00:39:46
They have 3, three or four magistrates. 00:39:51
I'll ask someone with that. 00:39:56
Does that include the three or four match? 00:40:05
They're not actual courts or magistrate courts. They're they're separate the prosecutors. 00:40:07
They are. 00:40:14
1 Circuit Bridge is level 54 criminal courts. We effectively have two Criminal Court. We have a. 00:40:19
3 criminal courts and then we have one spirit, three that has become more of a problem solving civil court. 00:40:36
We do have a prosecutor up. 00:40:41
But it's from veteran court generally, so we have two major felony courts. 00:40:44
We have a level 6 misdemeanor core, which is our security. Two, we have one magistrate. 00:40:48
That the prosecutors service all of those courts in court. 00:40:54
Clark, they do well before criminal courts. 00:40:58
There's six told, I believe. 00:41:03
Our silver, right? 00:41:05
Bounded them on that. 00:41:08
Thank you. 00:41:10
But can we can we get a motion and a second to continue discussion? 00:41:12
Just to keep everything. 00:41:18
What would the motion be? 00:41:21
I don't think he's done with the presentation. 00:41:24
Are you, did you say everything? One more thing if that's OK, go ahead. Thank you. We can keep in discussion if you want. That's 00:41:26
fine. We're. 00:41:30
Right. Go ahead. All right. Thank you, President. 00:41:38
The other we would ask to adjust as our vacuum coordinator. 00:41:42
We asked to adjust her up to $56,038. 00:41:45
She is currently a Pappy. There is no other victim advocate or victim coordinator, I should say, in our county. 00:41:50
She does fall in the Pappy range. Should we move toward the top of it? 00:41:57
It would effectively be a 3% raise. 00:42:01
Again, not asking you take anything out of the budget. 00:42:05
One of our paralegals. 00:42:08
Resigned and took another job for more money in the private sector, which is obviously her right. It's an open position. So we did 00:42:11
hear what you said about the. 00:42:15
If you can wait to hire, wait, we would commit not to hire before July 1st and I would commit to you to come back in June. 00:42:19
So that would save about $16,000. We will not be moving in that money or requesting within that money. Money would be to revert 00:42:28
back to the general fund. So you'll get about 13,000 bucks extra on that. 00:42:34
On the victim coordinator, we'd ask for approximately. 00:42:42
Seventeen $1800 raise, hopefully return about 16,000 by not filling that position before July 1st at the earliest. 00:42:46
So in both ways, we're trying to service what you've said and stay competitive. 00:42:54
For the assistance of Floyd County by being responsible. 00:42:58
So the first question. 00:43:05
When do you want if the? If this goes through, when do you want the pay raise to take effect? 00:43:08
We wouldn't go retroactive, I would ask. 00:43:15
Then it would be the easiest. 00:43:19
Efficient for HR and the auditors office. 00:43:41
We'll do whatever is the best and we're. 00:43:45
To cover any of the incidental, I believe that would be raised. The other thing I would put in there is if for some reason Diana 00:43:49
is going to look into it. I've looked into it if there's a problem with moving diversion over to cover salary. 00:43:55
Obviously then we will install it. 00:44:02
Make sure that that can happen and accomplish. I will say everything that I have read, seen, heard. 00:44:04
Supports the use of the excess in the diversion fund specific to prosecutors office at as they do appropriate so there are no 00:44:12
real. 00:44:16
Regulations on what they can use it for. Using it towards salaries is something that they are. 00:44:21
2nd. 00:44:28
Can I follow up on what you just said? Would you actually pay it out of the diversion fund or would you move money you can 00:44:30
actually transfer it? I would rather be transferred directly back into. 00:44:35
Now it does have to be planned and transferred through ordinance. 00:44:43
So the reality of it is we can go ahead and make. 00:44:47
Again, this is all based on on approval this evening, so. 00:44:52
Improvement this evening. 00:44:56
The wave goes into effect on Monday. Next month we come in. 00:44:58
With the ordinance to actually transfer those funds and then whatever would have been needed to cover from Monday call where it 00:45:02
gets transferred. 00:45:06
To the prosecutors lines, so. 00:45:10
That is how that would work, but it does have to be transferred by orders. That was something that I discovered about. 00:45:14
I would be open to being moved over. I think that would be cleaner and easier. 00:45:22
It was just a question. 00:45:26
Second question, any of these are subject to title 4D reimbursement and reimbursement of any sort one is and that no. 00:45:33
No, it's not. You were all gracious enough to allow us a child support attorney at 105,000. 00:45:41
And so we are not asking obviously for any raise. We utilize that person for both child support and major Felony extends our 00:45:48
abilities. So you know and then the third question is not necessarily directed towards you, but do you? 00:45:55
Diana had any estimate as what the what the judicial let's balance would be projected at the by the end of the year our remaining 00:46:02
balance at this point? 00:46:06
Runs the way it is now. I was going to do a. 00:46:14
For the health check in June. 00:46:16
Updated numbers at that point, but there's not any additional. 00:46:19
Currently budgeted available. 00:46:22
Well, that or or I guess my question is. 00:46:26
What is the and? It may be way too early to tell, but projected ending balance? I know there's a budget revenue and I didn't know 00:46:30
how far apart those were. They're about $3000. 00:46:35
Thank you. 00:46:41
Can I ask one what is the total ask for increase excluding the victim? A coordinator? Yes. 00:46:43
You presented the safari ordinance where we were off is with the incidentals. It was approximately $42,000, but that does not 00:46:53
include what I call the incidentals which would be the increase in any taxable. 00:47:00
Withheld, so I'll defer to Diane on that. I would say 42,000, our calculations generally were 52,000. I don't want to give you an 00:47:07
exact number, but 52 which is approximately half of what we have. So obviously we have planned to cover it. So 42,000 raises, of 00:47:15
course that fluctuates based on when it goes into effect, the less probably actually if it goes into effect in a couple weeks, OK. 00:47:23
And you're covering all of that out of the measure to do the incidental and I think and you said about 10,000 you thought. 00:47:31
Roughly, roughly in the neighborhood of 15,000 was the estimation, but once we actually. 00:47:39
We're willing to cover that. 00:47:46
It is well. 00:47:50
105 We're estimating 50 to 50. I thought 5255 to 57. 00:47:52
More than happy to do that, I'll make a motion to. 00:47:58
Give the increases to the prosecutor's office for the five. 00:48:05
Identify. 00:48:12
Deputies salaries. 00:48:16
Two at 9751 at 90. 00:48:19
Five, 90,500 or is it 90,000 I had and As for the labeling, I would probably defer to. 00:48:23
Who would do the labeling on the actual positions? The second and third would be appropriate to do that. 00:48:33
Second Deputy See This is why you have came in here. Second Deputy would move to 90,000 Deputy 97.5. 00:48:40
Lead Misdemeanor Deputy 97.5. 00:48:48
4th Deputy eighty 7550875. 00:48:51
For that and that will be paid out of the diversion fund for 2020 and the total calculation on it was 42,500, an increase that'll 00:48:57
be prorated based on. 00:49:02
Starting are the benefit that that's my motion. 00:49:09
And I would ask I would might might want to add based on being able to be moved out of the version. 00:49:13
Based on it being able to be moved out of version, I'm committing to do that. So if it can't be, I'm not asking if you take down 00:49:20
your general fund. 00:49:23
In the future? Future years now? 00:49:29
Oh, right. It has to come out of the diversion time. 00:49:32
I think I should. 00:49:36
You want to restate it? 00:49:37
And you need to, I think you need to include us amending the salary ordinance to reflect those. 00:49:39
Make a motion. 00:49:45
For the salaries as indicated by. 00:49:47
Chris Lynn. 00:49:50
That we update the salary ordinance for those and that they be paid out of the diversion fund. 00:49:53
Starting. 00:50:01
March 18th, this coming Friday. 00:50:03
Monday, Monday. Monday. 00:50:05
That's my motion. 00:50:10
2nd we have a motion and a second for. 00:50:12
Salary increases for certain individuals in the prosecutors office. 00:50:16
I do have a question where will the benefits and increase like FICA and that would that be also be paid accident fund? 00:50:23
And if you want to add that, yeah, I'll add that on to them Motion. 00:50:37
Including including the incidents. 00:50:41
Further discussion. 00:50:45
Yeah. I mean, I applaud you, Chris, for wanting to represent your employees. I mean, any good employer would do that, but. 00:50:46
We're just pulling out one county here that we're doing a comparison with. 00:50:53
And we spent several $1000 just two years ago to do a salary study. 00:50:57
And we're holding everybody else in line with it and now. 00:51:02
We've kind of, I mean sorry, we look like we kind of just cherry picked one county or comparing to that now we're trying to change 00:51:05
these rates. 00:51:09
I don't think that's fair to everybody else within the county. 00:51:13
Let alone the fact that. 00:51:17
You know, as he said, he's not committed to this long term and. 00:51:19
At some point we're going to inherit this on top of we're already projected for a small deficit next year and for it to continue 00:51:23
to grow, not even talking about this EMS service, so. 00:51:27
I just don't know how we can move forward with something like this right now. I mean, not from my understanding you all don't have 00:51:33
a height. 00:51:36
Your retention is doing fine currently. That may not be the case down the road, and that may be an opportunity. 00:51:39
For us to revisit this but. 00:51:45
Just can't right now. See the justification for it. 00:51:47
I think we did talk about this. 00:51:51
As far as the salary study, Michelle, can you help me out? I'm Does these still stay in the range? 00:51:56
Is that correct? 00:52:05
These salaries that we have proposed still stay in the range. 00:52:09
In within the savory study. 00:52:14
OK, so that was discussed. 00:52:18
Harrison has tons of money. 00:52:33
I get it. I have a group of both. They have River bridge over Clark Jim's right. 00:52:35
I get it. 00:52:40
But it is what it is, is the capitalist market they've increased. 00:52:41
Making us non competitive. That's why I didn't want to be here. 00:52:46
I get it, but I have to advocate for this and I think it's the proper thing to do and I'm covering it this year. 00:52:50
Jim's correct. Next year it'll be a battle and they'll ask me those tough questions and I'll see where I'm at. 00:52:55
But you'll have that opportunity in September, October to ask me those tough questions. 00:53:02
I just have a question for you. What about a counter proposal of waiving the 3%? 00:53:08
In the fall. 00:53:13
Of 2024? You mean for my prosecutors? 00:53:14
And the other. 00:53:18
Position. Oh, I would feel uncomfortable Connie doing my old positions. I'm I these positions I don't I'm OK with. But I would 00:53:20
feel comfortable I'm comfortable doing that to my whole office. They obviously make dramatically less and I'd like to see where we 00:53:25
go as a county. 00:53:30
I think that would be fair to them. I would hate to negotiate that away for them. 00:53:37
I'm feeling comfortable doing that, the negotiation on this. 00:53:41
I'm open to those arguments in September. I mean that I'd hate to make commitments now, so I don't know where September's gonna 00:53:44
be, just throwing it out. But it's a fair question and it's an argument that you can, just as Jim argued back. 00:53:50
You hear what I'm saying today. It's a fair question. 00:53:58
Did the Salary Appeals Committee meet on this? We did. 00:54:01
We didn't make a. 00:54:06
Hard recommendation we. 00:54:08
We asked Chris to come and present exactly what he presented to us to the entire, which is what he has done tonight. Was there any 00:54:10
recommendation at all? 00:54:14
I think it was kind of like a motion in a second for discussion we. 00:54:23
We blessed it together. The president Connie had concerns but they not speak for you, but they want everyone to hear. What I will 00:54:27
tell you this I got two attorneys you don't see here. They're on trial right now against the bank problem alleged and so that's 00:54:33
where they're at right now. And so with that said, we've done a trial last week. 00:54:40
Got a guilty plea? We've. 00:54:48
Trial a week, two weeks before against a person who is. 00:54:50
Guilty plea People do good work for you. They serve you well. 00:54:54
I ask that you serve them too and I'll take the brunt this year. Ask me the tough questions in September. 00:54:58
But I need to stay competitive. I don't need to be Clark. I'm not asking to match Clark. I just need to stay competitive for my 00:55:05
people. And I didn't create this situation. 00:55:10
They did, and the president brought up good reasons why they did. 00:55:14
You did analysis It's more expensive to buy a home here. It's more expensive to buy a home up in the knobs than it is in Clark. 00:55:19
There's a reason. 00:55:23
Because it's better to live here, in my opinion. I'm here. I grew up here. I love this place. 00:55:27
Do a good job and that's why that's why they want to come here. 00:55:32
So I ask you not to match him, not to beat him. I will cover this year and we'll talk about next year. 00:55:35
And I'm not playing show games with you. I'm being open with you. 00:55:41
I get the concerns, but I'm asking that you give let me stay and retain. This is the first time, a long time we've been fully 00:55:45
staffed. 00:55:49
I want to keep my people. 00:55:53
They don't want them absolutely sacrifice $20,000 as compared to another county next door. 00:55:55
Possibly another county. 00:56:00
Thank you. I want to make a statement and ask. 00:56:03
Statement of. I believe that if this goes through, we need. 00:56:06
That this needs to be studied by a subcommittee to come up with an. 00:56:10
A funding source for the future, and I'd ask that that happens if this goes through. 00:56:15
I think we need to get ahead of this. 00:56:20
They may not wait till September. 00:56:22
Because these is, you know this is. 00:56:24
Obviously if this was to happen. 00:56:27
We're not. We're not going to want to. 00:56:30
Your office and your staff backwards. 00:56:33
We want to try to continue this. 00:56:35
Moving forward and because. 00:56:38
Can get ourselves through to the end of the year. 00:56:41
We have it staring in our face. What to do at that point moving forward? 00:56:43
I just. 00:56:54
I'm confused. 00:56:55
A committee for 52,000. 00:56:57
I mean that's well, I mean unofficially I think somebody needs to meet leadership, just a couple of just to work with Chris and 00:57:01
the auditor's office figure out recommendations to say how can we move this forward. 00:57:06
Happy movies in here. 00:57:13
Before 7, I mean it doesn't have to be like an official committee, just somebody to that's designated to keep working this issue. 00:57:15
We have many issues. Jim brought up the EMS issue. We definitely got to work it, but I don't want this one to be. 00:57:21
If it gets approved tonight and we we just forget about it until. 00:57:29
We have to react to it. I'd rather plan for it. 00:57:33
Well, the prosecutor's office is on my budget list from last year and I made a pledge to deep dive so. 00:57:36
Well, Deep Dive President. 00:57:42
I appreciate that anybody wants to join. 00:57:44
We'll see. We can figure out. 00:57:47
Regardless if this passes or not appreciated so any other discussion I will just state like concept. 00:57:49
Makes sense. Is so if. 00:57:58
We agree to this 3% raise early. 00:58:00
Over the other people that would are expecting that next year. 00:58:04
So they're gonna get and then what they gonna do to morale in the office when they get 3% and then? 00:58:08
Another 4%. So technically they got 6% in a year and the other staff only got 3% in a year. At which which one is that miss ratio, 00:58:14
which you said that this is about a 3% increase? 00:58:19
Oh, no, I was talking. I'm sorry. I was talking about the victim coordinator. 00:58:25
Just one the negotiations on that word, could we move for a raise up? 00:58:29
Now if you do the responsibilities, because we've started basically a domestic violence, we dedicate one attorney to domestic 00:58:34
violence because we find violent crime is highly attenuated the domestic violence. 00:58:40
And her responsibilities continue to evolve. And she's much more of a paralegal also. 00:58:46
So we're just asking that that 3% raise, but to cover that, we're not filling the position until at least July 1st and I will come 00:58:51
to you in June before I make a hire. 00:58:55
To discuss. So I'm open to that. So you'll get money back effectively. 00:59:00
I want to make sure everything is covered. 00:59:04
My request on that one though is to go retro for her. 00:59:06
It's a smaller amount. 00:59:09
Any further discussion or questions? 00:59:14
All right, we have a motion and a second for. 00:59:17
The designated specific salary increases. 00:59:20
Plus incidentals, which is. 00:59:25
Extra method that goes with that increase. 00:59:30
So we need to restate it. I think we're good. 00:59:34
He he just stated A retroactive 3%. 00:59:38
This does not include that, not this. 00:59:42
Beginning Monday. 00:59:54
This this coming Monday. 00:59:56
Everybody clear? 00:59:58
All in favor? Say aye. All opposed. 01:00:00
Aye, that carries. Thank you. 01:00:03
The second is a domestic violence. 01:00:06
Coordinator that would move up to 56,000. 01:00:11
$38 01:00:15
that's approximately 3%. It's a path D position unique path. 01:00:17
Show that show exactly then. 01:00:23
It is. 01:00:26
Yes. 01:00:29
And again, we would not fill our paralegal position. 01:00:31
At the early July 1st and I commit to come to you in June before I make you any hires. 01:00:36
Is this a title? 4D position? 01:00:42
It is not OK. 01:00:45
Motion to approve the Victim Assistance position to 56,000, oh, 38. Is that right? 01:00:47
Yes, second. 01:00:56
We have a motion second. I just want to state this was this will be paid out of excess funds for a paralegal line that I'm 01:00:59
committing to you not to hire before July 1st and I will come to you in June before I make it tires. 01:01:05
So we can talk then? 01:01:11
Any discussion or questions? 01:01:16
All in favor? Say aye. Opposed. 01:01:20
That carried. Thank you all. I appreciate your time. Take care. 01:01:23
Sheriff Bush. 01:01:28
Wake up and come on. 01:01:30
Sheriff Steve Bush, Stanhope, What kind of Sheriff's Office? Before we get into what's on the agenda, I just want to y'all got it 01:01:33
through. 01:01:36
Received it through e-mail in reference to our annual jail report. Does anybody have any questions? I'll leave this for a copy for 01:01:40
the records here. Does anybody have any questions of that report? We have to give it to the circuit board, a few other people, but 01:01:45
I'd like to include you folks as well so you all have that information. So if you have any questions. 01:01:51
All right. So into the agenda item. So before you request, we came before this body and the commissioners in reference to three 01:01:58
items. 01:02:01
That we were have been discussing that we need to get accomplished and through that discussion the first item was electrical. We 01:02:05
will commit to covering that cost through our budget. 01:02:11
And then it lays us with two items to obviously discuss the IT situation and the water pipes over the server. So the IT situation 01:02:19
we end up put out for three bids, one did not return, so end up getting two. It's kind of a a tricky. 01:02:26
Situation in terms of bidding, there was 3 components to it. So the current, we have a current contract with accurate controls, so 01:02:35
we have to stay with them in terms of licensing and storage. And so we kind of separate separated that out and then the other two 01:02:42
components running wires and the actual cameras themselves. So through that process, we have one other company I think tomorrow 01:02:50
potentially. So so the third one kind of backed up, but we obligated by state statute refined there in terms of that. 01:02:58
We are looking at goal with Sir in terms of. 01:03:06
The proposals that we received, they came in lower so. 01:03:10
It's going to be confusing, but after control we're staying with them, so there was a cost for staying with it for licensing and 01:03:15
storage. 01:03:18
It turned out to be around. 01:03:21
98,000. 01:03:25
So you take that in consideration and Sorkin and lower and then add them to what they're under wires. So basically Sir came in at 01:03:26
187,000 versus accurate controls. The total amount would have been 255-250-5000. 01:03:34
So our request this evening. 01:03:41
Along with before I go any further. So that's with the IT situation. 01:03:44
With the water pipes, I spoke with Chuck in terms of last time the joint meeting also spoke again. He gave me a sheath of that. 01:03:49
Our QAW had given him a quote basically get the process started and that's 50,000 which I think that's a lot personally. And so 01:03:56
I'm going to revisit that in terms of why that is that much just to get it started and then we have to bid that process out. So my 01:04:02
request this evening in reference to all this. 01:04:08
Is the fact through as you always request us to find money in our budget, we found money. 01:04:15
And so it's our DOC money that comes back to you all in the general fund. And so it was not put on the Form 2. So therefore you 01:04:22
did not know it existed in your budget when you passed it. Therefore it's not new monies, but it's monies you all did not 01:04:27
technically have through the form two form roughly could be we'll get that payment. 01:04:32
I think it was in our reading group projections it was not. 01:04:40
We did. I didn't want to talk check before we brought that information to you, but what we did was went back all the way to the. 01:04:44
Revenue Code. 01:04:55
Back that up against bounce that off of the Form 2 that's posted in Gateway. 01:04:57
And actually confirm with Diana just to ensure that that value wasn't posted in the projections. Now they may have disguised it 01:05:01
somewhere else, I don't know, but it didn't refer back to the Revenue Code that we currently house. You know, I think it was just 01:05:07
classified. 01:05:12
Jail revenues or something? 01:05:20
It was on the. 01:05:23
Very low end. 01:05:25
So how much was the DLT money? 01:06:03
223,000. 01:06:07
Just gonna throw this out there. 01:06:14
I'm not a piranha because I deal with IT stuff and and all that, but it is kind of. 01:06:18
When do you think maybe we would have to replace those servers that are in that current IT ring? 01:06:24
I don't know how they are. 01:06:30
Yeah. Or any of that equipment. Well, I have a projected life cycle. Yeah, I can find that out. I do not know that. I'm not an 01:06:32
expert in that field. You know, the idea of this work also includes protecting that room, if you will. So with servers, meeting 01:06:37
rooms, they have temperature control has to be there, fire suppression has to be there. And so right now it's none of that. And so 01:06:42
we that's part of the work that was. 01:06:47
In that 50,000, if you will, is is changing some of the work of changing that room. 01:06:53
So there's no water. It's dry suppression versus water suppression. That's temperature control, right? And doing that, I guess 01:06:58
what I'm getting at is. 01:07:03
When we get the contracting with the new engineering firm for the other part of the building. 01:07:10
Maybe the Commissioners can. 01:07:17
Negotiate. 01:07:20
Something for that room through the other building, renovations or whatever happens with that. I'm just throwing that up. Yeah, 01:07:23
I'm more than happy to look into that and it's no problem. I mean, I've thought about that as well. 01:07:28
With a lot of other things going to be happening with the County building as well, so you know. 01:07:34
Just kind of thinking outside that box. 01:07:40
Thank you very much. 01:07:43
I thought our QAW was gone from our county. 01:07:45
That's the report I have. 01:07:49
Yeah, I wasn't for sure so. 01:07:51
I think there's local people here as well we can look at what about. There's a lot of options that to me that's a secondary in 01:07:52
terms of what will tonight, you know, it's really about the IT situation and getting that project started. 01:07:58
Because obviously we'll have at least at the moment, but we don't want to turn around and something tomorrow have a leak and all 01:08:04
sudden we're spending $1,000,000 and now you're instead of the investment now you got 2 million. 01:08:08
Look at SO. 01:08:13
Trying to be preventative here and I understand that's very difficult, but we are looking at that. We'll hopefully get that price 01:08:14
down and get started and then I'll have to come back for you to ask you for probably money anyways. 01:08:19
If we can't keep it within that DLC money and other areas and you know, rainy day, whatever the case, but that's another 01:08:25
discussion once we get to that. I just want to be able to have the commissioner use that, might have to house it in the jail. 01:08:31
Made this line item and they'll move forward. Kind of both the one product but also the sheriff. What's the ask? 01:08:37
Again, the ask is that the bill of use, we believe the DLC money is there to be able to use instead of going to general fund, just 01:08:43
housing the jail maintenance line that's going to apply since tonight the amount. 01:08:50
You're asking for the recurring 20,000? 01:08:57
So you are asking for 320,000 to be transferred from the general fund to? 01:09:05
We believe it's not the general funding or is it? 01:09:10
Well, it wasn't in the projections. Have we taken possession of it yet? 01:09:15
When this is when is it due? 01:09:20
Yeah, it's usually in mid June or July. 01:09:24
Is this part of the grant that's split between you, all, community corrections and somebody else, so this is separate. 01:09:28
Anytime that we have presented A reimbursement to the Council with the thought process has always been reimbursed where the 01:09:37
expenses are generated from. 01:09:44
Quite obviously, with all of our salaries and all jail maintenance issues housed in the jail lit fund, it seems more than 01:09:51
appropriate to be allowed to be able to reassign them as dollars as they come in. 01:09:57
To the gentleman. 01:10:03
For me, I need to make sure they're not in our projections and that doesn't put us down another $300,000. Yeah, I was pretty much 01:10:09
under that understanding of the Decibels funds. Desmond. Look, can I do something out? There's another option. I mean, you all 01:10:15
gave us a recent report in the jail commissary funds and looks like you all generated. 01:10:20
$1.3 million last year. 01:10:27
It may be this is something we can phase in and maybe you all can squeeze it out some of that money and that's a tremendous amount 01:10:30
of money available there. 01:10:33
Looking like when I look through that listing you all provided, I mean there's a great deal of expenses that might be in that 01:10:38
category and something to look at. And while we're on that, I kind of asked this, can we get a little more detailed report. I 01:10:43
didn't get a response from anyone on that one. 01:10:49
I sent that e-mail to Book of you. 01:10:56
Asking for some of the questions more detail. 01:11:01
And you're making sure that that we're not doing that over here. So I take offense to that. 01:11:05
No intent, no offense is intended. It was just a comment that we just felt like we've seen that in the paper. We feel like our. 01:11:12
Taxpayers want us to do our due diligence and apparently we're supposed to be reviewing it, which I didn't even know that. We're 01:11:18
supposed to get a record every six months and we have never gotten it, from my understanding. 01:11:23
Did you all get that? I thought I asked that question if you all received that. 01:11:29
Yeah. 01:11:40
Yeah. Did you all get a six month report before I requested that? 01:11:43
We've been turning that report in because we have to by law and also the commissary is regulated by statute and the overseer is a 01:11:47
sheriff. 01:11:50
Not the. 01:11:54
Well, I know that I'm just throwing out some ideas to utilize the money and try to save the county some money. But we are looking 01:11:56
at that and we have used that money. We don't have to come back to you, whether it's training, equipment, different items that 01:12:00
come out of that commissary. 01:12:04
We don't have to come back to you. So we do take care of our budgets in terms of commercially related to Y'all's budget. So we do 01:12:09
do that. 01:12:12
And there's specific items in the commissary. 01:12:17
Nine of us, typically eight of them. The 9th one is that an ordinance with you all the council we can do but they don't regulated 01:12:20
when we can spend that money out in Floyd County we have stuck to what that is and we've actually put internal controls into that 01:12:26
that says if we spend whatever we spend out of commissary it's related to whatever one through 8 line either is. 01:12:32
And that was our own doing. 01:12:38
We talked to state work accounts last. 01:12:40
They looked into a few things and suggested that we have some internal controls and some items and we've done those. Some of your 01:12:42
questions about commissary, there was three names you've mentioned there. We have an inmate trust fund. 01:12:47
That we have to have money in there for inmates when they leave. 01:12:53
Mistake and speak more on that. 01:12:57
Yeah, I just asked for him. I didn't get a response. So that's why the reason I followed up with that, not that we were trying to 01:12:59
avoid you, We've been very busy trying to get those and and do some of that research. Yeah, you could have said, yeah, fine, it's 01:13:04
going to take us a while. We'll work on that. I'm now getting response that. 01:13:09
Approached you directly. 01:13:15
What do you want to know? I've already told you you've got the e-mail. That's that's all I'm saying. I didn't get a follow up 01:13:18
until now. 01:13:20
Sit down with us so you can understand the process. I want everyone to know this information. I do not want one individual to set 01:13:24
for all this thing all alone. 01:13:28
Plain and simple, you want to send emails, but you don't want to take the time to come and sit down and ask a question. If you did 01:13:34
that, then you understand that there's an inmate trust fund that those three names you mentioned. 01:13:39
Go to that. Yeah. Doesn't it? Doesn't designate ask. Listen, that's why I asked for here. Ask your question that you want to know. 01:13:45
We'll answer them. 01:13:48
I got an e-mail. I don't have that e-mail sitting from me. I have several questions on that. 01:13:52
Wasn't just that. 01:13:57
Absolutely appreciate. 01:14:00
And we always have. 01:14:03
So from my perspective, Sheriff. 01:14:08
Not this this issue has to be addressed. the IT issue that we're talking about right here, right now. Thank you for going back and 01:14:12
looking at. 01:14:16
Addressing the other electrical short with the doors and electrical issues. 01:14:21
And thanks for taking care of that and within the budget. 01:14:25
I believe that for me, the hang up is exactly how to pay for it, because the ask tonight is to move money that isn't there yet. 01:14:30
That we don't know if it's budgeted or not budgeted. 01:14:39
We don't know if it's in our projections or not. I'm sorry, not budgeted, but in our projections or not and to just do that. 01:14:42
Without me getting to a better spot. 01:14:48
Of understanding if it's projected, if it's not. 01:14:51
And basically we all we could do is. 01:14:55
Allow you to move forward in hopes that the money is there to pay some expense. I don't know where it would come from until the 01:14:58
money gets here and the auditor said it may not get until mid year so. 01:15:03
That that's a that's an issue. There's some other funding that might be able to help us along the way get there and it frees up 01:15:07
some other, you know if this money comes in later on in the year and that might help us address some other issues that you you are 01:15:13
concerned with also. 01:15:18
Not sure if it falls under a capital expenditure or not, but there is money coming in in June from the Hume Cap fund that. 01:15:24
Also, is an option on the table. 01:15:31
Potentially. Umm. 01:15:34
So again, I'm definitely in favor of tackling this issue. 01:15:35
I'm not comfortable. 01:15:39
With with the specific ask tonight in regards to money that is not yet in our possession and. 01:15:41
Not sure if it's. 01:15:48
Can I? Can I make any recommendations? 01:15:49
A rainy day as well. You know this. This is an issue that's responsible for the commissioners and they put it into you all. 01:15:53
To look at and to. 01:16:00
Further. So that's that's where that part of it is. This is an issue that's very important because. 01:16:02
Once we Start learning more about this IT issue, it creates a lot of problems potentially for us. 01:16:08
And that's my concern. I hear what you're saying, Jim. I understand. I've always told you. I appreciate your questions. 01:16:14
But at the same time, this is these are issues that we need to move forward on because it's going to create more. 01:16:20
So I have I have a couple things. 01:16:28
Stand If you're available, maybe you and I can call Tim Strickler and see exactly. 01:16:31
If he can tell us. 01:16:39
How much was in there for that particular item? Line item? 01:16:41
There is a joint meeting on Friday. I really think with this needs to be on that joint meeting. I think there is some other 01:16:49
funding that we need to talk about. We need to talk about rainy day, we need to talk about. 01:16:56
Arkhamani we there's money that we need to to look at. 01:17:05
And and maybe maybe the cube cap we said we were going to use that only for. 01:17:11
Building but. 01:17:17
Sometimes you get yourself into a place. 01:17:18
You have to do something. 01:17:21
I need to make sure this money isn't in our current revenue stream that we budgeted. 01:17:24
And after that I can make a further. 01:17:31
Recommendation or further I can process that better. 01:17:35
And and I'm more than willing to do that with you. 01:17:39
So if I think we need to come Friday with some answers and some questions. 01:17:43
To the Commissioners as. 01:17:48
On some of the funds that they may have available. 01:17:50
But it has to be done. It has to be done. And we just need to find a way to pay for it. If that means rainy day, then we have we 01:17:54
have to pay for that rainy day. And I think what what Sheriff had asked me to do is to take a look at were there any potential 01:18:00
options that we could present to you tonight, Lori, advertising the rainy day fund in the event that these types of questions 01:18:06
might have arose. But we hate to stall block that particular project strictly based on the fact that we don't know where the 01:18:11
money's going to come from. 01:18:17
We know that if we do it from rainy day, we can always potentially reimburse rainy day if in the event we locate. 01:18:23
Excess funds elsewhere, yeah, it's just that the critical nature of this particular, this one particular job, our project is 01:18:29
essential And we we did make sure that we advertise appropriately from the other line as well as rainy day line. If in the event 01:18:37
now the ask was from the IDOC money being diverted to the jail bid fund that was just in the ask. But we did cover all the bases 01:18:44
so that we have a couple of options that we can present to you. 01:18:51
You know, if that I ask remains somewhat in task. 01:18:59
Until we can, Until you and I can sit down and actually meeting with the reader group to identify the pathway. 01:19:04
If any that they created. There wasn't anything available that I could see moving back all the way, all the way back to the 01:19:10
revenue codes. So I I pulled the, I pulled the forecast up and there's no. 01:19:16
So I can look at the actuals for the last two to three years and then the projection I don't see. 01:19:22
A $200,000. 01:19:29
A gap gap in any line item 2 or 300 that would. 01:19:32
Indicate to me that they did not budget that in some fashion and they may have disguised it elsewhere, but I don't know how they 01:19:37
did honestly and I don't I just trace back where it should have been, do the Revenue Code forecasting. So that's that's why we 01:19:44
present. But I don't see it, I don't see it in the trend. You know what I'm talking about and that's why we presented. 01:19:51
To move forward and that's why you present that, right. So DLC was something we found after the fact that maybe that's a 01:20:01
possibility to stay away from rainy day, but at the same time, you know, today versus Friday. 01:20:06
We might be able to find out that it was in that forecast and then we're back to square one of the rainy day part of it. Well, my 01:20:12
first, my first would be if if if it's not in the budget and we can use this money, fine. If it's. 01:20:18
If the second, my second option would be Arca Money. 01:20:25
My third option would be rainy day, but we can't move forward on any ARPA money without the commissioners being involved. So 01:20:29
that's why I would like to wait till Friday to get this answer and also to talk about ARPA. So if you could send a question to Don 01:20:36
on ARPA or the commissioners on ARPA that the possibility of using ARPA funds for this, I think that would would lead the 01:20:42
discussion. 01:20:49
For Friday. 01:20:56
I'm not opposed to using rainy day. That's why we have rainy day for these kinds of things. 01:20:58
If we need to do that, then we will. But I I would like to look at these two other options before we get to the rainy day and we 01:21:03
don't have a problem looking at Jim, back to your commissary questions. 01:21:09
We don't have a problem using that money because we already do that. But you have to understand the commissary fund does not 01:21:14
supplant the county budget. 01:21:19
It helps with it at times because we don't come to you for training purposes. We send folks to training. There's quite a bit of 01:21:23
money. If you probably looked it over, saw there was a lot out for training. We want our employees to improve their training and 01:21:28
continue education in terms of that there's equipment, there's there's stuff that we do out there. 01:21:33
That keeps us from coming back to you, just so you know. 01:21:39
So I will respond to your e-mail for sure. 01:21:42
Are you comfortable with Friday so we can gather some more data? 01:21:47
I understand if we can get that on the agenda, the same way that we have choices and opinion, our choices. My motion is to Table 01:21:52
7A. 01:21:57
For further. 01:22:04
Discussion on Friday and allow some some more options to be explored and they'll be allowed to be voted on if we need to, Well, we 01:22:06
can, we can vote. Can we take action? How's how was Friday advertised? 01:22:12
Was ever passed as a meeting and you can't make any, you can't make any appropriations. It's a 10 day rule. But we can we can take 01:22:21
a vote to allow you to move forward on Friday. We just can't. 01:22:26
Make Appropriations Friday. So that's my motion second. 01:22:31
We have a motion and a second to table until the joint meeting on Friday. Any further discussion? 01:22:35
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? 01:22:41
Miss Copy. 01:22:49
A little bit miss conkel. If you do reach out to the reading group, I would very much like to know how they coded. 01:22:52
That revenue, since every other revenue is coded by its accurate Revenue Code on our form too. So if they put it on the Form 2 and 01:22:59
they did not code it by the accurate Revenue Code, I very much wanted to because that's a challenge for me when I'm reading it I I 01:23:05
believe it might be under. 01:23:12
10 queries than that. 01:23:21
Because we looked at the Form 2 and that Revenue Code that is specific to that Idoc Money did not exist on the Form 2. So I did 01:23:23
and it may not be there. I'm not saying it is, I'm just saying I don't see if you ask them to know what they coded as. 01:23:31
Lead me to believe they left that out and we did not advertise any appropriations for Fridays meeting. So while things can be 01:23:40
voted on and approved, no appropriations can be done. 01:23:45
On Friday's meeting, just as a heads up. 01:23:51
My. 01:23:55
Shift gears and go. 01:23:57
So as everyone knows, the AFR was legislatively required to be filed by February 29th. It was filed at 3:00 PM on February 29th, 01:24:00
basically wanted to do that. 01:24:05
I spent. 01:24:12
8 weeks. 01:24:14
Working on the information that is compiled on that report. 01:24:16
This is the first time that we've kept that report completely in house in five years. 01:24:20
At the very least, because that's as far back as I know. 01:24:25
That was a lot. 01:24:31
And one of the wonderful discoveries, and I say that tongue in cheek. 01:24:32
That I made was that we had a fund. 01:24:37
Called the. 01:24:40
Called the Congressional Township School Fund Fund, 1125. 01:24:42
This fund was generated by proceeds of sales of school properties for townships. 01:24:47
Put in a fund as principal and that principal was supposed to be in a revolving CD. 01:24:53
Into perpetuity. 01:24:59
The interest was to be collected in a separate fund, 1124 and you'll notice you've never seen that on any of your reports because 01:25:01
it's been 0 for a very long time. What's the fund that the a map the the amount was in 11/25 11:25 and you'll see that it 01:25:09
currently has a balance of $24,994.62 and that is the principal amount that that fund started with. 01:25:17
It's also the principal amount that hasn't been invested since 2008. 01:25:25
And the counties were given the option at some point between then and now. 01:25:30
To release those funds by resolution to the state. To have the state invest and administer payments to your local school districts 01:25:35
for you. Because technically. 01:25:40
They're supposed to receive two payments a year, one in June, 1 in December for $999 and some change. 01:25:46
They don't get that. 01:25:54
In case anyone wondered, nobody in our county had any idea what this fund was. 01:25:55
I called three different state departments. 01:26:02
I spoke to the State Board of Accounts and I spoke to the Auditor of state now the Comptroller. 01:26:04
And then I got to speak to the treasury of state. 01:26:09
When I asked them if Floyd County just happened to be one of the counties that they administered, because my hope was that maybe 01:26:13
we could cut the principal check from. 01:26:17
The wrong fund and we just needed to move this money. 01:26:22
We are not. 01:26:25
But I would like us to be. 01:26:27
So the resolution before you is to release these funds to the state to be invested and have the interest distributed to. 01:26:28
New Albany, Floyd County Consolidated School Corporation, Twice a year, please. 01:26:36
Steve, if you reviewed or prepared that resolution 2024-02. 01:26:41
I prepared it. 01:26:47
Motion to Approve Senate or Sorry, 88 second. 01:26:49
We have a motion and a second. I'm sorry I didn't get a second. We have a motion in a second for a a the Floyd County Resolution 01:26:56
2024 dash O2. Any further discussion? 01:27:01
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? 01:27:07
A day carries. Thank you so much. 01:27:10
And see is that just an appropriation to the remaining balance of the animal shelter contract? Yes, that. 01:27:16
Motion for 8B as advertised, Second got Motion a second for 8B. The second payment, I believe, of the 2024 and what's left for 01:27:21
annually for the annual payment of Floyd County. 01:27:28
Animal shelter. 01:27:36
Any further discussion? Any questions? 01:27:38
I'm just wondering just. 01:27:41
For accuracy sake at this point. 01:27:45
I know we have a contract. 01:27:49
But do we really maybe need to? 01:27:51
Rename that to Animal Control. 01:27:54
Well, that's what our country live. 01:27:57
Mrs. Moon, it's it's getting appropriated there, but it along with the remaining balance that is currently in that line are going 01:27:59
to be transferred to their correct fund, the non reverting fund that was created that is specific to animal control. OK, never 01:28:05
mind, it's not going to live there. I'm just getting the money. 01:28:10
I'm good. 01:28:16
Any further discussion? 01:28:18
All in favor of 8B, say aye. Any opposed? 01:28:20
That carries 8 CC and D are together. These are things that have already been approved and voted on by the council and 01:28:24
commissioners have already signed contract and we've actually already had our first two meetings with the provider, which I'm very 01:28:28
excited about. 01:28:33
This is literally just to appropriate the money so we can send them the payment so that we can start collecting the funds to then 01:28:39
reimburse you for those motion for 8C and D. 01:28:43
Have a motion and a second couple seconds for 8C and D? Any discussion? 01:28:49
Seeing none all in favor, say aye, those two carried. 01:28:56
You know, I'm on here a lot guys, and I do apologize, but there were just so many things. 01:29:00
So again, working on the AFR for eight weeks, there is a portion of that very large report that I did not touch. 01:29:04
And it was on purpose because I have nothing to support it. 01:29:13
So there's a portion on the AFR where it requires you to list the value of your capital assets and support that value. 01:29:17
Our county cannot do that. 01:29:25
The state has been asking us for a number of years to provide a updated Capital Assets Inventory and Valuation List. 01:29:27
We do not have. 01:29:35
The cap. 01:29:37
To do that. 01:29:39
Right now we do not. Don and I tried to. 01:29:40
Address it. Last year it did not happen. We don't. We just don't. The amount of work. 01:29:44
That is involved in that is insane. It also includes creating valuations of roads, bridges, buildings, devaluing them depending on 01:29:51
their age and state, All of those things. 01:29:57
I shopped around and did some research and asked all of my other many, many auditors in this state for recommendations. 01:30:04
Who else has had this problem? 01:30:13
Everybody. 01:30:15
Everybody's had this problem. 01:30:16
I was given the name of Peterson Consulting Services. 01:30:20
And this is what he does. This is what his entire consulting firm is built on. 01:30:23
And for $6500. 01:30:29
He will give us a complete up-to-date through the end of the 2023 capital assets inventory list and valuation and is confident 01:30:32
that he can provide it to me in a timely manner to where I can actually update the AFR that I filed for 2023 to reflect the 01:30:38
accurate information. 01:30:44
So I would very much like to create a new line. 01:30:52
And ask for an appropriation of 6500. 01:30:57
To please go before the commissioners and tell them that it's already funded. 01:31:00
To get this done for our county, because at some point the state's going to stop asking and they're going to start finding us. 01:31:07
Because they do not like the fact that we cannot produce what creates that value. 01:31:13
Or support that that value is accurate. 01:31:20
They don't like it at all. 01:31:22
And this is not something that the. 01:31:25
That Don Lott or Teresa or anybody in the Commissioner's Office would do. 01:31:29
No. This is something that, once it's created, can be maintained in house. 01:31:32
But the creation of this report, every department in this county is going to have to work with this. 01:31:37
This provider. 01:31:44
Because it is. Anything that is worth $5000 or more goes into this report. 01:31:46
How is he gonna do that well? 01:31:52
So I don't care. 01:31:56
It's it is lined out in the contract that you all received as backup documentation if you want to read through all of that. And I 01:31:59
would encourage you to do so because after the commissioners reviewed this and Rick Fox reviewed it, he said that it is basically 01:32:04
the biggest bang for his buck that he has ever seen as far as county reporting. 01:32:09
Well, well, well, what he provides you be able to be uploaded into our new system so that it can be maintained. 01:32:17
As an asset on our new What's the new system now? 01:32:28
Yeah, wow. Yes, it will. You will be able to maintain this. We'll put it in loud. 01:32:32
Yes, I'll make a motion. 01:32:38
For safety. 01:32:41
As advertised, we have a motion and a second. 01:32:44
For E. 01:32:48
That's for the contract and. 01:32:51
The line item. 01:32:53
And the appropriation for. 01:32:55
The contract. 01:32:58
Any further discussion? 01:33:00
I I just have one quick. 01:33:02
Are they going to be on site doing work? They will be working with Horatio, with Don, With myself. 01:33:05
Remotely. Otherwise that would be about $25,000, right? Because I didn't see the caveat in the contract that. 01:33:13
We could potentially pay for travel. 01:33:20
But they won't be on even. I mean I didn't they originally quote 7500, I thought no, that was a different company. So we're doing 01:33:23
better than. 01:33:27
All right. Any further discussion? 01:33:33
All in favor, Say aye, aye. Any opposed? 01:33:36
That cares. Thank you. F is just fulfilling A legislative requirement in your. 01:33:39
Backup documentation For this lovely evening, you would have received a copy of our annual Financial Cash and Investments combined 01:33:45
statement. 01:33:49
I'm supposed to bring it to you? 01:33:54
It's that's it. It just fulfills the legislative requirement. 01:33:59
OK. So thank you very much. 01:34:04
All right, we're on to item 9. Floyd County Council Ordinance 24. Should this be O3? Now, did we just do a 24 O2? There's a 01:34:08
resolution. Thank you very much. So ordinance 24/02 for transfers. 01:34:16
Motion to approve 90 I didn't see it. What's in it? In the, In the? 01:34:27
Of the ordinance, yes. It's every line transfer that you on the line and Shin here. Can I just take a quick? 01:34:33
Did somebody make a motion second? 01:34:45
Won't get that cut out, boy. 01:34:52
Well just go ahead I if I have any problem I'll let you know. 01:34:56
But I we have a motion, a second, is there any further discussion on the transfers? 01:35:00
All in favor, say aye, any opposed that carries 9B is financial advisor discussion. 01:35:06
I'd like to make a motion that we contract with Baker Tilly. 01:35:16
Effective. 01:35:22
Today. 01:35:25
We have a motion. Is there a second? I'll second that. 01:35:30
Have motion and 2nd any discussion on. 01:35:34
The contract with Baker Tilly for financial services. 01:35:38
I guess a couple things. Has anybody reached out to really group just to let them know? 01:35:45
That would happen according to the contract, once we've decided to terminate it. So if you all. 01:35:51
This evening, then we'll have to reach out because Tim sent something recently. 01:35:57
I I I would also say that I did talk with Paige at Baker telling me. 01:36:06
They already have a. 01:36:12
Floyd County model built. It will have to be tweaked, but she assured me that it wouldn't take a lot of time. 01:36:17
To tweak that model. 01:36:27
So I do think it's going to require some time to get. 01:36:31
Her or whoever up to speed again on what all is going on. 01:36:36
With our funds and with. 01:36:42
With our assumptions. 01:36:46
But I I do not have a problem. 01:36:49
Trying somebody else, if that's what everybody else wants to be. 01:36:54
Because we spoke for a little while and she she had no idea. 01:37:00
About a lot of the. 01:37:03
Things that are happening within the county. 01:37:08
And the new sons. 01:37:11
I'll stay consistent with I guess what I brought up last time, which is. 01:37:17
Not opposed for another financial advisor to to come in and. 01:37:21
Give us their analysis. 01:37:25
I just hope that. 01:37:28
Whoever has a discussion with reedy group that there are a. 01:37:29
Off boarding conversation of. 01:37:35
Maybe some of the? 01:37:38
Expectations that weren't met or things that maybe just some communication there, things that cost caused us to look, I mean I 01:37:42
think that's. 01:37:46
I think they. 01:37:52
Deserve that, that's fine. And if you all want to. 01:37:53
If you're all the ones promoting, I think you guys. 01:37:57
Discussion. 01:38:01
I wouldn't. I mean, I'll do it with you. 01:38:03
Ranking it with you. I just wanna make sure it happens and if I have to be a part of it, it's fine. 01:38:06
But I think one of you guys need to be a part of it, absolutely. 01:38:14
Any further discussion? 01:38:17
All in favor of contracting with Baker, Tilly, say aye. Any opposed. 01:38:20
That carries. 01:38:25
Continued discussion of hiring. This was just our discussion of UM. 01:38:27
Basically not. 01:38:32
Pre approving backfill positions having. 01:38:34
Department heads justify. 01:38:38
Hiring. 01:38:42
I'm not sure how much. 01:38:44
How is that different than what we're doing currently? 01:38:47
For me it was just a clarification because a lot of times a position will come through e-mail and it'll say backfill and and the. 01:38:51
You know, the general answer is I'm OK because it's a backfield. 01:39:02
My point. 01:39:07
Let's just go one step further and have them explain. 01:39:10
Are we doing this for everybody? I mean, the Sheriff's Office for dispatchers and? 01:39:15
Street officers. 01:39:20
Sheriff's Office has a contract with a certain number of officers in there, so. 01:39:22
We don't have contracts with auditors office or treasurers office, anybody that's not any non bargaining, non bargaining. 01:39:28
Mr. President, I think last time, when we, when we. 01:39:39
Visited the subject I. 01:39:43
We talked about maybe you putting together a form. 01:39:46
To. 01:39:51
To state the expectations or. 01:39:53
Or what have you. 01:39:56
And if we're good moving forward, I don't think it's. 01:39:58
Do this for to further discuss. 01:40:02
Would you like to see the form before? It's before we move forward? But yeah, for sure. 01:40:04
Absolutely. So I. 01:40:12
We're going to talk about We want to table this until we see a form. 01:40:15
I'm sorry, I said do we want to table this until we see a form or Yes, Sir, would you like us to take action on that? If so, I I 01:40:20
move that, we table it second. 01:40:24
We have a motion a second for tabling the hiring discussion. 01:40:31
Any further discussion? 01:40:36
All in favor? Say aye, aye. Any opposed that carries. 01:40:39
Committee reports. 01:40:46
Mr. Tran. 01:40:51
EMS, we don't meet. We meet quarterly. Our next meeting is our, excuse me, MADMS on my mind. We don't meet until April the 4th. 01:40:55
So that will be I will have a report until after that, but I would like to say I was not able to attend the the joint meeting with 01:41:07
the Council and the Commissioners was able to go back and view the the video tape on the new website. 01:41:15
And I just want to commend Mr. Biermann and whoever else is responsible for that, because looks great. 01:41:23
Mr. Striggle. 01:41:32
Don't really have anything the solid waste did not meet. 01:41:34
We are on a deferred schedule of not meeting every month. So we didn't we didn't have a meeting this time, so. 01:41:38
I didn't do anything. 01:41:45
He hasn't to report, but I would like to get an update on where we're at with the building authority discussions because that's 01:41:47
coming up pretty quick. I'll speak to that here in just a second. 01:41:52
I don't have anything. 01:42:00
J rack we are waiting on. 01:42:03
Confirmation from the state drug czar. 01:42:09
Judge Stiller has reached out to him because there's no real. 01:42:14
Direction on how the counties are supposed to give out their award. 01:42:20
Monies. So she is reaching out to him to see if we have to RFP that or if we can just. 01:42:24
Give it, give it out as an award through an award process, so that is pending. 01:42:31
Yeah, really not much report from Planning Commission meeting. 01:42:40
So first we've started discussions with Corrections and Sheriff's Office on. 01:42:44
Contract negotiations that have our initial meeting with with them. 01:42:52
And we owe them an initial response here pretty soon, so we'll. 01:42:57
We'll continue that probably on. 01:43:03
After you get the responses, we'll probably set up another meeting and. 01:43:06
Go from there in the next month, I'm guessing, so we don't push that too far down the road as far as building authority goes. 01:43:08
We've met in. 01:43:19
Council members and discussed a little bit and then we pose some questions to our attorney. 01:43:21
And we are at the point where we're going to put together a proposal. 01:43:27
For the commissioners. 01:43:31
And I guess the framework of it would be. 01:43:36
There's money available. 01:43:43
Within the building authority that they have. 01:43:46
In their bank account, in their bank account, or in their budget. 01:43:49
In their in their accounts, in their bank account. 01:43:52
Which I believe if I read it correctly. 01:43:55
Is if we dissolved the building authority tonight. 01:43:59
That those accounts would belong to us. I think that's how I read that. I think that's correct. So that is technically. 01:44:04
County money, and there's enough money there for them to. 01:44:11
How much money is there? 01:44:17
At the end of November it was in excess of 450,000, so they still had one month of the budget to go, but it. 01:44:18
Roughly 100,000 out of that. 01:44:25
150 at the most so. 01:44:27
So there's a couple moving parts there, but we would like them to. 01:44:31
Draw that money down. 01:44:37
That will. 01:44:39
There's plenty there for them to finish out the year. 01:44:41
On that. So that's going to be the big. 01:44:44
Theme of the proposal. 01:44:48
There will be a couple other. 01:44:50
Smaller issues. 01:44:52
Within that that we that we would like to work out. 01:44:54
And. 01:44:59
I'm certain that that. 01:45:01
Budget is going to look different. 01:45:02
In September when we. 01:45:05
Take that up again. 01:45:06
I I think there be some major tweaks to it. 01:45:08
But that's that's the gist of it. Now we're we're ready to. 01:45:13
Put together a proposal for for them and. 01:45:18
But that's, that's the main that's the main goal is. 01:45:20
Call it budget excess or overcharging or. 01:45:26
You know there's funds available for them to finish out the year and to help us this year. 01:45:31
So. 01:45:37
Let's go right away. 01:45:40
And I'll be getting that out for. 01:45:41
The ones that are on that committee for their. 01:45:45
You know, input and approval. 01:45:49
Over the next couple weeks, by the time we meet again in April, we'll have. 01:45:52
That should be sent over to the Commissioners. 01:45:56
To look at, so could the rest of the council members that are not on that committee get the proposal or whatever that is? 01:45:59
Whether it's the same time that the commissioners are getting it or whatever the case is once you guys are done with it for 01:46:06
review. 01:46:10
Obviously there's some of us that aren't seeing or knowing what. 01:46:15
What information you guys have, and I'm assuming that you, whatever you discover you're having a conversation with bill 01:46:19
authorities, allow them to reply to. 01:46:22
The 450,000 and those, those type of things I have spoken with with Jason and Commissioner Sharp and I believe he's going to relay 01:46:26
some information but we are going to. 01:46:32
Their response is probably going to be to the proposal more than. 01:46:42
A back and forth of Is tonight the first time you're going to hear that, hear this, the building authority. 01:46:47
Public meeting? Possibly, but I don't. I think they're aware of what we're going to ask. They should. 01:46:53
So like I said, there's some other moving. 01:47:00
Parts that have to do with maintenance, contracts and different things but. 01:47:04
The heart of my question is. 01:47:12
I. 01:47:41
We we've attempted to communicate with building authority and the communication is. 01:47:43
Slow to non-existent, so most of our communication to them is going through Commissioner Sharp. 01:47:50
Have they held this money? Have they had this kind of balance over the years? For the last we didn't get a history of that. We 01:47:59
just got recent statements is all we got. 01:48:04
For the last several years. 01:48:11
But we know just like the health care has been overbuild. That's, I mean, we only went back five years. That's all the information 01:48:13
I had. I mean, I'm sure it's probably been going on Lauren, Dad in order for that to build up to that kind of mail. 01:48:18
So 2 year old's point, if if the building authority is non responsive then that should also be documented. Whether it's an e-mail 01:48:24
that they didn't respond to or lack of response or whatever, it needs to be documented but. 01:48:29
I know that this goes without saying that I believe that there needs to be an attempt. 01:48:36
Made to the building authority to explain whatever findings you guys have. 01:48:43
Before they will have, they will have an opportunity to explain, Yeah, I I would, I would. 01:48:47
Wish that you guys could get together and sit down and type one. Have a discussion. 01:48:55
I'm hearing you say that's not possible. 01:49:00
There's been an unwillingness too, so far. That is the way things happen and get done. Things get done in a in a kind. 01:49:04
Respectful fashion, I believe. We'll probably sit down and discuss with them across the table. 01:49:12
Our findings in our proposal. 01:49:19
I think that will happen. I don't want to just blindly e-mail them. Yes, here's the proposal I. 01:49:21
If if they don't want to meet for that, then we'll just move on to the next. 01:49:27
Next Well, really, I mean the Commissioner should be involved because we are, we have no negotiation really. In real, I mean we 01:49:32
form a committee, but it gives us no authority to. 01:49:36
Anything as far as directly dealing with them, we just, we could just control our own budget, which we did. The proposal is as 01:49:42
much for the commissioners as it is the building authority. 01:49:47
That's it so. 01:49:55
Any public comment before we adjourn? 01:49:57
We just received an e-mail from Josh Still in reference to another entity that wants to look at our model and what we're doing. 01:50:07
So just want to say thanks for your work, you know, being representative the council, but everybody else on that J Wreck Ward 01:50:12
because people are now looking in Floyd County of what we are doing with that board and money and how it's set up and and all the 01:50:17
good stuff that we're doing in the community. I just wanted to say that I'll talk with you soon. Thank you. 01:50:22
I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. 01:50:29
A motion to second all in favor. 01:50:32
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Previous discussions we will bring to order the March 12th, 2024 meeting at the Floyd County Council. Please stand. 00:00:00
For the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:09
Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, 00:00:11
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:17
Let the record show that we have a full form tonight. 00:00:32
Mr. Bagshaw, would you leave us in prayer, please? Yeah, let's pray. Oh, heaven and Father, we thank you as always, that we're. 00:00:35
Live in America. We have freedom and liberty that we can meet in public meetings like this. We acknowledge that there's places on 00:00:42
this world that. 00:00:46
It's not so. So we always want to be grateful for our freedom and liberty. Lord, please be with us tonight. Give us knowledge and 00:00:50
wisdom so that we can make prudent choices for the. 00:00:56
Citizens of our. 00:01:02
Laura, always want to ask that you protect our Soldiers, sailors and Airmen Marine as they defend freedom around the world. Please 00:01:04
protect our first responders. Keep them safe as they keep us safe. 00:01:10
And oh God, I pray for a piece of Jerusalem today in your name. Amen. Thank you for that. 00:01:15
Everybody, the chance to review the agenda for tonight. We had a couple of revisions, but I think we've been good for the last. 00:01:23
Couple days. 00:01:29
Motion to accept. 00:01:33
Motion and acceptance to. 00:01:35
Or motion and a second to accept tonight's agenda. 00:01:37
Any discussion? 00:01:41
All in favor, Say aye. 00:01:43
Any opposed? 00:01:45
That carries the approval of minutes from the February 13th council meeting. Move to approve second. Have motion second for the 00:01:48
approval of previous minutes, any discussion. 00:01:54
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed that carries. 00:02:00
Public input. 00:02:06
All right. Seeing none, we'll move on. 00:02:10
Old Business Community Foundation Board of Directors. Nomination. 00:02:13
I believe this is basically a formality. We had one. 00:02:18
With one resume submitted, commissioners have voted. 00:02:22
If there is no other. 00:02:29
Nominees from Anyone make a Motion to. 00:02:31
To reaffirm, I mean or you know we did this once already, but to to put Jeff Lilly forward. 00:02:35
2nd We have motion A Second for the Community Foundation Board nomination. 00:02:41
Any discussion? 00:02:47
All in favor, Say aye. 00:02:49
Any opposed? 00:02:52
That carries. 00:02:54
New business Judge Granger. 00:02:56
Good evening and thank you. I'm Maria Grazer for Floyd's Fair Court 3 have one and one B1A essentially is a request to for an 00:03:02
additional appropriation from grant funds that were unused that we have been authorized to utilize to help with. 00:03:11
Some peer support recovery assistance for our participants in the HOPE or the family recovery problem solving port. So those two 00:03:21
items are going to be attached to that fund 9175. 00:03:28
One will be the contract that peer support recovery and then to assist with some transportation for participants to get to and 00:03:35
from appointments and things like that. So that's 1A. 00:03:41
And 1B is in reference to the Commercial Court. 00:03:48
It's funds through the Supreme Court, so I guess it's a grant, but it's just to supply the commercial court clerk we have 00:03:53
requested out of the insurance money that's going to be unused for the cycle to utilize that to help reimburse the clerk. 00:04:02
For expenses for travel and training that they have to do motion for 1A and B. Second we have a motion for 1A and 1B. Any 00:04:12
discussion? 00:04:17
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? 00:04:25
That carries. Appreciate it very much. Thank you. Thank you, Lois. Interest. 00:04:28
OK. 00:04:45
OK, Darius, is he not here? 00:04:50
Oh, Mr. Randall gave me a call in the office today. He was not going to be able to make it this evening. 00:04:53
His request is to a it's just for an additional appropriation for travel and training. 00:05:01
Move to approve to a second. 00:05:09
Motion and a second for 2A. Any discussion. 00:05:11
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? 00:05:16
That carries. Thank you. 00:05:19
Lois, sorry about that. 00:05:22
I'm here to request appropriation so that I can pay certain bills that are designated to be paid out of the Enhanced Access 00:05:28
Payment. 00:05:33
Motion for three eight second. 00:05:38
We have a motion and a second for 3A. Any discussion. 00:05:41
What is enhanced access where people subscribe and are? 00:05:46
Vendor gets a portion of it. 00:05:52
That I have to pay them a month. 00:05:54
Any further discussion? 00:05:59
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? 00:06:00
That carries. Thank you. 00:06:03
Mr. Chairman, I have #4. Kent is unable to be here tonight. He did reach out to me. This is just a LEPC grant. It's just to 00:06:05
appropriate that grant as advertised. 00:06:11
And I'll make a motion for that for a. 00:06:19
2nd we have a motion and a second for 4A any discussion. 00:06:21
Hearing none. All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? 00:06:28
That carries. 00:06:33
Five Mr. Donlop. 00:06:34
Good evening. First item I have is a request for additional appropriation of the GIS Fund. 00:06:46
It's 9113000400004 for the Public GIS system for $3800. The rationale behind that is there's additional work that has to be done 00:06:52
before the GIS consultancy interface with the new auditor software for the Public GIS Board. 00:07:01
Motion to Approve 5/8. 00:07:11
I have a motion and 2nd for 5A. Any discussion on GIS? 00:07:14
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? 00:07:19
That carries BB is a DE obligation of $200,000 out of the edit from the edit fund putting that back and unappropriated cash that's 00:07:22
coming out of 111200 zero 4020 which was the Geo loan. 00:07:30
Motion for 5B as in boy. 00:07:41
I'll second that. We have a motion in a second for 5B. Any discussion? 00:07:45
I was curious, was this the funds that the Commissioners had designated for the Council previously? 00:07:50
Yes, and now you're all rescinding that officially, right? 00:07:56
We're putting 200 hundred thousand back back into an appropriated cash. 00:08:01
I just don't know why we won't accept that when we know we've got all these other. 00:08:05
Obligations to the county. Plus, in addition to that, sheriff's asking for quite a bit of money for a couple projects. 00:08:12
I just think we preparation is just for the Geo bond, it's not just for the County Council at large. 00:08:18
It is for dedicated fund for the general obligation bond. 00:08:26
It's not $200,000 just to spend on any council. 00:08:31
Right. But you're taking it away from us. 00:08:36
Officially, we're not. We're not going to get access to those funds by doing this. 00:08:38
I guess Don, what you're saying is this is this is edit funds that were dedicated for Geo bond, yes, we don't. 00:08:45
The council doesn't. 00:08:50
Necessarily have. 00:08:51
Edit Funds. We don't have a A. 00:08:53
Funds we use in edit. 00:08:56
No, but they had committed them to us at budget time. 00:08:58
For the GM bond. 00:09:02
Is it? I ask you, is this part of that? And I thought you said yes. 00:09:04
Excuse me, I asked you earlier, is this part of this not, I understand you said yes. I said yes, it's it's for the Geo. Geo bond 00:09:08
that's part of the council. 00:09:12
But it's not part of the repayment to the council. 00:09:18
It's my understanding was the repayment was not going to be. 00:09:21
Request is that now, not the. 00:09:27
That's my understanding from the Commissioners of the. 00:09:30
The repayment, repayment of whatever bond. 00:09:32
Is being paid out of the funds that are being. 00:09:37
You you have a. 00:09:45
You have a fund. 00:09:46
That you are. 00:09:50
Gaining taxes. 00:09:52
To pay for the bond. 00:09:54
This was additional monies that. 00:09:57
Worse in some type of decision that. 00:09:59
We were repainting it. 00:10:03
This guy, this you aren't. You have funds that you pay the bond off. 00:10:08
Because you kept the tax rate the same. 00:10:13
So this is additional money. 00:10:21
Money went to the commissioners for capital improvement projects because we authorized that with the agreement to pay it back and 00:10:24
you all rescinded that. 00:10:28
That was my understanding, how it wasn't there. It wasn't approved. That's my understanding of it. 00:10:31
You said the rationale behind the doing the bond was to keep the tax rate the same. 00:10:36
If you didn't keep the tax rate the same. 00:10:41
If you didn't do the bonds, the tax levy. 00:10:44
The tax rate would have went down. 00:10:47
Is that correct? 00:10:51
And if the tax rate went down, what would that have been for the citizens of Floyd County? 00:10:53
Their taxes were damn. 00:10:59
I've got it on my cell phone from the May 13th. 00:11:01
Joint meeting last year when John Schoenberger acknowledged that 500,000 is designated for the council issue of use for anything 00:11:05
else. 00:11:08
And that's from that meeting. 00:11:13
Board can work and do whatever they wish. This is a request to be obligated funds. 00:11:18
I don't think we should be doing it. 00:11:24
The repayment on it go bonds. It comes from a debt service. 00:11:27
OK. It's getting paid out of that. 00:11:32
It's not being paid out of this, OK And again. 00:11:34
I reminded you all, is that man. 00:11:37
You all approached us on this. 00:11:39
Is that this? 00:11:42
That money went to a fund for capital projects. 00:11:43
And then we were going to then take that money to another fund. 00:11:48
If you use those for capital project, it was not going back to the County Council. There's been nothing to document. That's not 00:11:52
what you said on this video. Got all the minutes the May 13th meeting, it's in there from the Joint Commission Council meeting. 00:11:57
And it's your statement. No one else encouraged you to say that. 00:12:05
There's been so many times, so many emails that I've sent out. 00:12:08
Document that. That would not be an attempt, giving money back to the council for them to use the general plan to get the 00:12:12
intention. 00:12:16
Don. 00:12:26
What is the? 00:12:28
The the estimated budgeted amount versus revenue versus expenses in the edit fund at the end of the year, is it? 00:12:30
Is it underwater? Right at about 40 now about $44,000. 00:12:37
To the negative deposit. 00:12:44
And that's including this or not including that's not included. 00:12:46
She never will be at 2:40. 00:12:51
So this will make it 2:44 to the good. 00:12:55
Yes. 00:12:57
Are there projects? 00:13:00
But the 200,000 are is going towards. 00:13:02
At this point in time. 00:13:07
No, but you got to realize that for the past three years. 00:13:09
The utility line item has been asked the stat at $200,000. 00:13:12
Utilities are usually at the end of the year we're we're transferring money over to pay for those utilities. 00:13:17
But it's always been asked. 00:13:23
To keep the keep the items in the budget flat. 00:13:26
So you know, everyone else is everyone's utilities is raised. 00:13:32
So you know. 00:13:37
I believe we have a motion in a second. Let me, I'll just stay, just make a statement. 00:13:48
I It's been so much conjecture and talk. 00:13:54
I thought the intent was something else. 00:13:57
Going forward? 00:14:00
This body and the commissioner's body need to get it in writing to see. 00:14:02
How bugs are going? Tricky transfer back and forth. That's that's just a statement. I think that's one of them. I think that's a. 00:14:07
I think that that would help solve issues like this, yes. OK, that's just a statement. 00:14:14
Just because this is D appropriated to A to a bond does not mean the money is spent. It's still there. 00:14:21
If you if you de obligate these funds, they go back to cash on hand. 00:14:28
Which means they just sit there until the county commissioners come back to you and ask for an additional appropriation for those 00:14:35
funds. 00:14:39
So I guess what I'm getting at is, is it's appropriated to pay for a bond. Is that correct? 00:14:44
As it stands right now, however convoluted that Geo Bond was, and I personally believe it was very complicated. 00:14:49
That was what was directed. 00:14:58
To put in for the Geo bond. 00:15:02
Back in August and September when the budgets. 00:15:05
So I'm trying to get to Mr. Freiburgers point of. 00:15:09
Even if it's deappropriated in this line item. 00:15:12
That discussion can still happen. 00:15:16
Between Council and Commissioners regarding. 00:15:19
Whether it goes wherever it would go. 00:15:22
It's just being taken out of the Geo bond line item. 00:15:27
It's still there. It's cash. 00:15:33
I mean, are you going to follow that money then? 00:15:36
Going to keep track of it when you going to know they're applying for it. 00:15:39
We keep it here, we know exactly where it's at, where it would go and we go on unincorporated cash on hand in the edit. 00:15:42
And if they want to spend it, they have assets in the unappropriated cash on hand. 00:15:49
The county commissioners cannot use those funds until they come back before this body and ask for an additional appropriation. 00:15:54
So tracking the funds, if that's a concern of yours, they just go back to the cash on hand in the fund? 00:16:02
I think the bigger. 00:16:12
Overarching theme here is. 00:16:14
Nobody's on the same page as how? 00:16:18
Deal was supposed to work out. 00:16:21
And to me, that's a. 00:16:24
That's a bigger issue that needs to be settled. 00:16:27
Then then where this money is right now, I agree that I mean we're going to appropriate it. 00:16:32
But. 00:16:37
The theme. 00:16:42
Cooperation and how this deal was supposed to work. 00:16:44
Has not been adhered to. 00:16:47
So we have some work to do to settle that issue. 00:16:48
Going forward? 00:16:52
Let me know the discussion on this. 00:16:55
Well, I think to your point, it's what Dale said, we need to put things in writing and have resolutions in hand that define how 00:16:57
things are going to happen. But you said this go bond was, you know.